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Title: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: pricedoutoftoon on Monday 14 July 2014, 03:09:53 PM
So I've searched the chat section and there's only personal threads regarding Australia. So I'm starting a new one for anyone to talk about their trips without hijacking someone's other thread.

I'm off to Brisbane and I'm aiming for September. Seems like a good month. Nice and sunny but not too humid (before the rainy season).

Does this sound about right?

Just waiting for my passport to come back before I can sort the eVisit thing. Then it's flights booked and off I go. I reckon I'm going to do very little research other than the necessary. Just wing it, and rely on the family's input.

I'll be staying with the bro and then hiring a car for a road trip down to Sydney and hopefully Melbourne (if the Brisbane to Sydney journey doesn't kill me).

This will be the furthest I've travelled and is really a trip of a lifetime...for me. So I'll be avoiding the deadly insects as much as possible, enjoying the beaches, and hanging out with my brother and family. I will be wanting to go to clubs etc. But I'll be on my own as it's not my brother's scene :(
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Monday 14 July 2014, 04:19:01 PM
Sounds like a good trip, not sure how warm it'll be in September but suppose it'll be warmer than the UK  :lol:

It might be worth looking closer to November and it's worth considering that Brisbane doesn't get the extreme heat in the summer that Perth, Adelaide and occasionally Melbourne get - this is generally Jan/February though.

Both trips by car aren't over the top and if you wanted to get straight there are doable in a day, the first one is about 11 hours.

Not sure what the clubs are like in Brisbane, but the Gold Coast has good nightlife, a good mixture of fit backpacker chicks, locals and travelling Aussies. Just be a bit careful though as it's getting a reputation a bit like Magaluf (well, not quite as bad).

Basically in all the cities you've got a choice to gather where the backpackers go or the locals go.

Try and get to Melbourne as it's get the best culture and nightlife of the three. If you go around the beginning of Nov it's Melbourne cup where the whole state of Victoria gets a public holiday and most of the country get p*ssed.

I live in Perth but have visited Sydney and Melbourne several times so if you want more info let me know.


Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Monday 14 July 2014, 04:27:30 PM
Did similar a while back in August and it'll be nice during the day but pretty nippy at night. Don't know how many times you'll be stopping en route but a lot of places we found were quite quiet with it being out of season. Byron Bay is amazing though.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: TheGuv on Monday 14 July 2014, 04:29:10 PM
I was in Oz for the Lions last year and must say Brisbane was my favourite city.

Perhaps because it was the smallest of the 3 you talk about and it reminded me a bit of Newcastle in that respect. It is very easy to navigate around and it has a good nightlife. Then again the place was full of rugby fans all smashed!

My personal favourite was a bar called the Victory. We were told horror stories about Oz being £10 a pint but at this place it was $12 for 2 which makes a big change to your outlook!
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 14 July 2014, 04:38:08 PM
complains about there only
being personal threads
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creates personal thread
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 14 July 2014, 04:39:00 PM
I jest. Went to Perth and it was good. Mostly because my bro was there. Definitely got to see the outback - the city centre was cool but a bit fake.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: aussiemag on Monday 14 July 2014, 04:40:51 PM
If your interested in clubbing definitely hit up the gold coast and stay at a backpackers. Youll meet like-minded foreign travellers there, and you might even get your leg over one of them ;) Id also check out the sunshine coast, some really nice beaches and small towns, foreign girls love this area.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: CFlan on Monday 14 July 2014, 04:47:53 PM
I did the Brisbane to Melbourne drive a few years ago, I got p*ssed off with the driving fairly quickly. I didn't think there was many worthwhile things to see inbetween either. Melbourne was the highlight for me, I loved it.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Monday 14 July 2014, 05:05:37 PM
Brisbane to Sydney is nearly the length of the GB, isn't it? I can imagine it being dull. But it's a trip with the bro who I haven't seen for 7 years, so I'm hoping it'll be interesting. We're two completely different people...so it should be :lol:

It might be worth getting a train from Sydney to Melbourne as, like you say, I'll be sick of driving by then.

You can fly for f*** all - http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/syd/mela/cheap-flights-from-sydney-kingsford-smith-to-melbourne.html?rtn=0
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Monday 14 July 2014, 05:10:54 PM
2 years hopefully and I'll be there permanently.

just hope the demand for accountnats picks up or at least doesn't fall any further so I stay on the skilled occupation list.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Monday 14 July 2014, 05:30:37 PM
Was looking South of Perth originally (know people there) but it is looking more likely to be Brisbane unless the WA economy changes and they need more bean counters
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 14 July 2014, 05:33:58 PM
Holy s***! Are all internal flights that cheap?

Usually.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: aussiemag on Monday 14 July 2014, 05:34:06 PM
Was looking South of Perth originally (know people there) but it is looking more likely to be Brisbane unless the WA economy changes and they need more bean counters

Thats where I live and its fantastic.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: Incognito on Monday 14 July 2014, 06:22:46 PM
Thread title needs the word residents replaced with the word inmates. :whistle:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - residents and visitors alike
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 14 July 2014, 06:39:16 PM
Let's make a thread for every f***ing country why don't we. Why not just have a general travel thread?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 14 July 2014, 06:48:10 PM
Let's make a thread for every f***ing country why don't we. Why not just have a general travel thread?

:lol:

Australia is one of the most popular places for UK people to go to/emigrate to. Seems fair and overdue.

So we have USA, Canada and Australia threads. That's 3. Anymore? Google says there's 196 countries. Minus England that's 192 counties left for a juicy thread of their own :D Get cracking!

Could count the Baba thread as a Nigeria thread, so that's one more off our list.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: aussiemag on Monday 14 July 2014, 06:50:52 PM
Was looking South of Perth originally (know people there) but it is looking more likely to be Brisbane unless the WA economy changes and they need more bean counters


Thats where I live and its fantastic.

Isn't Perth full of super rich? Not sure why I'm thinking that. Probably heard it somewhere...Neighbours, probably :lol:

yeh mainly middle class, but alot of very rich people. you should see some of their houses. mama mia!
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Monday 14 July 2014, 07:46:47 PM
11th most expensive city in the world isn't Perth?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 14 July 2014, 07:56:55 PM
Thread title needs the word residents replaced with the word inmates. :whistle:

:lol: :thup:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Monday 14 July 2014, 10:09:19 PM
I was last in Oz a while back, and was really surprised about how much I loved Melbourne. I mean, I was born and partly grew up in Sydney, so I know I'll always love it, but Melbourne just has a great vibe - more laid back, and strangely more cosmopolitan.

Anyone thinking of going for a holiday needs to let us know what they envisage themselves doing - what they actually enjoy - because that could completely change where you should go.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 10:58:19 AM
I've been living in Brisbane for a few weeks now. It's a nice enough city. It has a compact city centre which hosts the high-rises, the one-way systems and the congestion. It's not crazy busy though, not from my experience, probably because there's not a great deal to do in the centre besides shop and drink.

If you're happy to come to a city just to get p*ssed, you'll do fine in Brisbane. There are certain hotspots where bars congregate near each other. For a start, there's the CBD ( the centre) which features one shambles of a club - which is actually attached to my hostel - and a scattering of decent bars. Victory, as mentioned on the previous page, is decent, as is the Pig & Whistle. Nice enough spots. Not cheap but not particularly expensive either. I haven't drank that much but you're looking at between £3-5 for a pint.

Then you've got Fortitude Valley, which has a concentration of more expensive clubs and bars, save for ones similar to which I mentioned before - attached to hostels. The Valley's only a small area really; it's just office blocks, clubs and Chinatown. Not a bad area really, but I've never drunk there.

Then you've got the South Bank which is, on the whole, a lovely area. You cross the bridge from the centre, going over the shark-infested Brisbane River, and you're on the South Bank. Under the loom of the skyscrapers and segregated by the water, it's chock full of classy little bars and restaurants, public performers and market stalls. It's the best bit of Brisbane by far, but still only quite titchy. It's also got a manufactured lagoon and this quality little circuit through a miniature rainforest. As well as free to use barbecues dotted all over the spot, which is a brilliant facility. Plus the theatre, the cinema and a Ferris wheel. It's a quality little spot if you like the simple pleasures like just wandering around and taking everything in.

In terms of actual tourist attractions, there's next to f*** all really. There's a little nature reserve with koalas and kangaroos which is a good way to kill a couple hours, but there's not much else really. It's nearby to the likes of Noosa and the Gold Coast (drinking, ganjaing and surfing) and Fraser Island, though.

I like it though. It's not the most exciting spot but it was very easy to adapt to and is absolutely full of like-minded backpackers. Like I say, if you wanna chill out and get p*ssed for a few weeks, you'll enjoy it. All I've done is work so far really so no real licence to get smashed all the time, hence my appreciation for just enjoying the area itself for what it is. Similar to Newcastle in that, although it's busy and all-systems-go, you're never far from a bit of solitude.

So aye, it's a decent spot. Nowt amazing but very likeable. It's got good transport, safe, clean, good for drinking, good for shopping, possible to relax, free boat rides, it's got free WiFi hotspots and it's got - best of f***ing all - yours f***ing truly.

Hope that helps. :thup:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 11:00:20 AM
My uncle lives in Eatons Hill, near Brisbane. Never got around to visiting him, he's been there years.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Froggy on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 11:02:26 AM
Doesn't Perth have the most self-made millionaires in the World per capita?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 11:39:38 AM
Doesn't Perth have the most self-made millionaires in the World per capita?

Considering 1 in every 3 households have a boat there, I'd say it's very rich.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Hughesy on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 01:31:06 PM
I went to Australia over the New Year 2013/14 - started in Perth, then to Sydney for NYE and a bit of cricket, onto Hamilton Island for a bit of lazing and then half a day in Brisbane.  I did enjoy the trip, but I wouldn't say I would necessarily rush back.  I would have loved to have tried Melbourne but we just didn't have time.

Perth - I think we really went at the wrong time (we were there for a wedding, but the wedding got called off) so we ended up in Perth from 27th December until 31st December.  Probably too long given that the city appeared to shut down over the Christmas period.  Whole city seemed very quiet with lots of restaurants closed for 2-3 weeks.  Given my time again, I would definitely have hired a car to go out to Margaret River.

Sydney - loved Sydney.  Great food, lots to do etc, although not cheap.  Would be quite interested in moving there for a period if I ever got round to it.

Brisbane - only there for a short period of time whilst waiting for connecting flight so went into centre of town.  Remember having a bloody amazing crab lasagne at a restaurant called Il Centro by the river.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 01:49:28 PM
Margaret river is ace. I can recommend some class wee cottages to hire out if only I could remember the name! Kalbarri cottages? Class for 4~5 folk and cheap. Also should do a wine tour... so much wine. The brewery (cheeky monkey) was absolutely rubbish, worst beer I've had in a while :lol: was basically a massive hipster gimmick.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 02:04:27 PM
Just sorted passport. She (nice PO women) reckons 4 weeks!!! Is that pessimistic or optimistic? My old passport was well out-of-date :lol:

4 weeks is default for passport applications, depends how busy they are.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 02:19:59 PM
I was last in Oz a while back, and was really surprised about how much I loved Melbourne. I mean, I was born and partly grew up in Sydney, so I know I'll always love it, but Melbourne just has a great vibe - more laid back, and strangely more cosmopolitan.

Complete opposite for me. I was born and raised in Sydney, and at 22 I moved to Victoria (Geelong as opposed to Melbourne, but that's only an hour away). I have never warmed to the city at all, and really don't get the great reputation it has. I find it to be grey and dull and completely up its own arse - especially when compared to Sydney. Whenever I see pics of the Harbour or other landmarks I can still feel the tug in my chest sixteen years later and if I could move back, I would in a heartbeat.

Most of my family lives in Brisbane, and there's a lot going for it. A bit flashy for my liking, and a strange mix of redneck natives and the more cosmopolitan (but aspirational) southerners who have moved north for the weather and opportunities. But there's an exuberance to Bris Vegas that has an appeal.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 02:51:46 PM
I was last in Oz a while back, and was really surprised about how much I loved Melbourne. I mean, I was born and partly grew up in Sydney, so I know I'll always love it, but Melbourne just has a great vibe - more laid back, and strangely more cosmopolitan.

Complete opposite for me. I was born and raised in Sydney, and at 22 I moved to Victoria (Geelong as opposed to Melbourne, but that's only an hour away). I have never warmed to the city at all, and really don't get the great reputation it has. I find it to be grey and dull and completely up its own arse - especially when compared to Sydney. Whenever I see pics of the Harbour or other landmarks I can still feel the tug in my chest sixteen years later and if I could move back, I would in a heartbeat.

Most of my family lives in Brisbane, and there's a lot going for it. A bit flashy for my liking, and a strange mix of redneck natives and the more cosmopolitan (but aspirational) southerners who have moved north for the weather and opportunities. But there's an exuberance to Bris Vegas that has an appeal.

Yeah, it might have just been because I was spending a small time there. Don't get me wrong, I love Sydney, but I always will. I just expected Melbourne to be duller than it was. Maybe I just got lucky (I went to a lot of gigs with some cool people). I was staying in Geelong with family, too. I can definitely see that it's more up its own arse than Sydney, but the Pom in me might have liked that :lol:.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:09:32 PM
A leadership election or 'spill' has been called for the Liberal part tonight to elect a new leader (for the second time).

Malcolm Turnbull who Abbott knifed in the back during their opposition years is running against him.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-14/liberal-leaderhip-tony-abbott-challenged-by-malcolm-turnbull/6774546 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-14/liberal-leaderhip-tony-abbott-challenged-by-malcolm-turnbull/6774546)

Abbott is the worst PM I've ever seen and the Liberals are in a bit of a shambles.

Just watch some of this.

Incredibly this is the time when he wouldn't answer questions and just nodded  :lol:

http://youtu.be/rJ9y1c73-IM



Gets called a dickhead by a voter

http://youtu.be/cRMI4Z7ri8A



Gets called a w***** by a voter

http://youtu.be/k2PlJj_AanQ



And finally even the yanks take the p*ss out of him, well John Oliver.

http://youtu.be/c3IaKVmkXuk






Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:25:56 PM
Just seen this. The f***'s going on here? Abbott gone?!
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:42:34 PM
Just seen this. The f***'s going on here? Abbott gone?!

Yup, Turnbull is in now.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Dave on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:43:54 PM
How can it just change so quickly? I don't get it. :lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Kimbo on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:47:03 PM
Sounds preferable to a 3 month campaign followed by 1 month of voting
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:48:43 PM
How can it just change so quickly? I don't get it. :lol:

It can in the UK (not as quick but pretty rapid), remember Prime Minister is just the leader of the party in government.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:50:31 PM
How can it just change so quickly? I don't get it. :lol:

They call it a spill. Basically you need a set number of backers to call one then the party gathers in the party room and the MP's vote. Public don't get a say.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:50:51 PM
What happened for Abbott to go? Hearing votes of no confidence?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Beren on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:53:06 PM
"Other Countries' Presidents of the United States" :lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:57:11 PM
What happened for Abbott to go? Hearing votes of no confidence?


Yeah, his party tried it in Feb and he survived it by one vote and asked for 6 months to change things around. Then Bronwyn Bishop happened :lol:

It's been building for the last 6 weeks, I thought he might have got away with it though with parliament closing for a few weeks soon.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Monday 14 September 2015, 01:59:11 PM
What happened for Abbott to go? Hearing votes of no confidence?


Not racist enough.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 14 September 2015, 02:01:02 PM
What happened for Abbott to go? Hearing votes of no confidence?


Not racist enough.

:lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Monday 14 September 2015, 02:13:27 PM
What happened for Abbott to go? Hearing votes of no confidence?


Not racist enough.

:lol:

Nah, it was the gays
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 03:15:47 PM
Former fish and chip shop owner  :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/heKzQUyl.jpg)

Ignorance rubs across borders - had a p*ssed up conversation with a very good Aussie mate of mine, fairly left leaning and fairly intelligent. Asked me about my views on the refugee crisis then went on to rant about why 'they' shouldn't be allowed in as schools have banned nativity plays due to complaints from Muslims. I asked if he actually knew of any complaints or could prove it and he lost his s*** accusing me of being soft.

Have to say, Australia is a lot more racist than the UK.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Froggy on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 03:18:45 PM
:lol: Australia is on a whole other level of racism compared to the UK. It's f***ing shocking.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 06:37:35 PM
That country sound ludicrous each time one of their politicians opens their mouths. Is it even a secular nation with a separation of church and state defined in its constitution? Because I recall John Howard going on about Australia is a "Christian nation," and how they won't have that eroded by migrants, blah blah. What kind of PM says s*** like that? How are you different from theocracies with that kind of rhetoric?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 08:29:48 PM
:lol: Australia is on a whole other level of racism compared to the UK. It's f***ing shocking.

This.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Jill on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 09:27:45 PM
:lol: Australia is on a whole other level of racism compared to the UK. It's f***ing shocking.

This.

Oh god yes, horrible memories of a nice meal with family over from Australia, or at least it was nice until they started up with an anecdote about some "f***ing coons" back home. So loud and embarrassing man, we were desperately trying to change the subject as the entire restaurant began staring. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 09:41:53 PM
Was never any black people on Neighbours come to think of it.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 09:45:00 PM
Toadfish murdered them all. Him and Karl buried the bodies under Lou's Place.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 10:15:15 PM
Toadfish murdered them all. Him and Karl buried the bodies under Lou's Place.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 10:16:08 PM
Is neighbours and home & away still on?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 10:18:50 PM
Yeah. The missus watches them both, the rotter.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 10:24:26 PM
Aye me mother watches Neighbours. Olympia Valance nearly saves it.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 10:51:15 PM
TO THE GOOGLECOPTER
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 10:52:16 PM
:notbad:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 11:18:24 PM
Australia had a 'white only' immigration policy until the 70's.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Tuesday 6 October 2015, 11:25:00 PM
My Uncle, sweet guy, eccentric, heavily involved with athletics in Australia...talks about "negroes". Just casually, not in a derogatory way as such, he's a nice racist. It's completely a factor of his generation, and lack of self-awareness :lol:.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 03:29:40 AM
Yeah, hear the coon thing A LOT.

I still find it amazing this cheese is allowed to be sold and in supermarkets as well!!  :lol:

(http://www.cheesewiki.com/system/images/2330/medium/CoonCheese.jpg?1268293795)

The explanation is a bit flimsy:

Quote
COON is the trademark of a Cheddar cheese produced by the Dairy Farmers company in Australia. It was first launched in 1931 by Fred Walker.

The cheese is said to be named after its American creator Edward Coon who patented a method, subsequently known as the Cooning process, for fast maturation of cheese via high temperature and humidity. Former manufacturer Kraft, and later Dairy Farmers, have vigorously defended the trademark.

The accuracy of Dairy Farmers' account of the origin of the brand has been challenged. Anti-racism campaigner Stephen Hagan has said that he has been unable to find evidence that Edward Coon was a famous cheese maker, contending that the name came instead from the black wraparound in which it was originally sold. Hagan says that Edward Coon was an obscure factory hand who was induced to subscribe his name to the patent for cheese manufacture some time after the brand had been in use.

From 1933 the cheese was marketed as Red Coon, as at the time the cheese was coated with red wax. The wax was later replaced with cellophane and the red stripe in the logo is a residual reference to the original packaging
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 08:57:02 AM
It is indeed true that our beautiful land is also, unfortunately, a f***ing redneck wonderland. It's just shocking, sometimes.

I work in a secondary school, and in my more idealistic days I would try to engage with racist students (who you just know are parroting their parents). I would debate and argue and counter, but it's simply not feasible. It comes to a point where you're in a slinging match with an angry ignorant teenager which detracts from your professionalism, is terribly unedifying and isn't going to succeed anyway.

So now, when students tell me we should send them all home, or bomb them back to the stone age, or that our indigenous people are all bludgers and leeches, my "best" response is something like "I don't agree, but I'm not going to discuss it with you."

BTW That cumstain who used to be our PM was elected precisely because he pandered to the redneck element with his hardline anti-immigration policies. I mentioned it in the migrant crisis thread but you should consider researching the abhorrent offshore processing policies we employ - and then observe the masses who nod along or suggest that these draconian measures are too soft. And for a real good time, check out a Facebook group called "Things Right Wingers Say" - but have a barf bag handy when you do...
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 09:46:29 AM
I did my farming work in Bundaberg, QLD and that's where I experienced all the racism. They were fine towards the Irish, didn't like the English, and f***ing hated everyone else.

Sydney, Brisbane etc. are completely fine for the most part.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: MKSC on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 10:13:33 AM
I'm doing History of Australia for one of my modules this year. Gonna be fun.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 10:46:42 AM
Queensland was the state that voted in that neo-Nazi bitch Pauline Hanson back in the 90s. There was one election when her "One Nation" party won 33% of the primary vote in the Queensland election.

Yup, they're a breed apart.

MKSC - I teach Australian History to Year 9 students, and I don't think I've ever heard it described as "fun" :lol: Many people find it really boring, even many history lovers. What sorts of aspects are you looking at?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: MKSC on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 11:02:43 AM
We're pretty much taking the complete tour, stopping of at certain points in more detail. Last week we did some stuff on pre-contact societies which was great and we're gonna move through chronologically. I've read Stuart Macintyre's Concise History of Australia over the summer as that's our main text for the course. Also read Marcus Clarke's 'His natural life' which I thought was excellent. I'm not sure which part I'm more interested in but I'm doing a lot of stuff on British Colonial/Imperial history this year and I do find convicts/transportation really interesting.

The course is at Kings College London and is run in conjunction with the Menzies Center for Australian Studies so the teaching and resources are top level.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 01:59:12 PM
Farage would be proud.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/07/nauru-mother-of-alleged-gang-rape-victim-attempts-suicide (http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/07/nauru-mother-of-alleged-gang-rape-victim-attempts-suicide)

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Nauru: mother of alleged gang-rape victim attempts suicide

Victim’s brother says his mother ‘desperate’ after being told she cannot see her daughter, who has been in hospital in Brisbane since August

 Nazanin, an Iranian asylum seeker, who was allegedly gang-raped on Nauru in May 2015. She remains in a Brisbane hospital without her mother and brother.

The mother of an Iranian asylum seeker allegedly gang-raped on Nauru has tried to kill herself, having been told she cannot see her unwell daughter.

The mother, Farrah, has been placed in isolation under 24-hour watch since the suicide attempt on Saturday, her fourth. That also means she is separated from her son, who is held in another part of the detention centre.


'We suffer the same as them': the trauma and despair of Syrians detained on Nauru
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Farrah’s daughter, Nazanin, was allegedly gang-raped by up to three men on Nauru in May.

Nazanin, 23, was found at 9pm on 16 May having been missing on the tiny island for more than three hours. She was naked, disoriented, and badly beaten.

She had bruises and bite marks on her body, and told police she had been attacked and raped.

No one has been charged.

After the attack, Nazanin’s health deteriorated precipitously. She began to refuse to eat or drink, and attempted suicide.

Workers on the island have told Guardian Australia camp managers resisted moving Nazanin to Australia even as she went into organ failure, but came under sustained pressure from doctors who warned she would die if she was not moved.

Nazanin was moved to Brisbane in August, where she remains in hospital.

Her mother, Farrah, and her 20-year-old brother, Omid, were told they could join their daughter and sister in Australia, but have now been told they must stay on Nauru.

Omid told Guardian Australia on Wednesday that his family was not seeking exceptional consideration of their refugee claim, but just to be together.

“My mother is in desperation. She wants to be close to support her daughter, who is very sick. She just wants to help her get better.

“When they took her they said we would go the next day, but then they say no. Now it has been five weeks we are separated and my mother is mentally very unwell. My mother does not change her clothes, and she cries all the time. She tries to harm herself.

“My mother and sister can only talk on the phone for short time every second day, and now my sister she just screams and cries on the phone. She cannot speak any more. She just screams and cries and my mother cannot help her.”

Farrah’s suicide attempt has focused further scrutiny on the safety of asylum seekers and refugees on Nauru.

Two Somali women have reported being raped on the island in recent months.

One, aged 23, is nearly three months pregnant as a result of the alleged rape, and has pleaded with the Australian government to be allowed to come to Australia to terminate the pregnancy.

The request has, so far, been denied, despite entreaties to the government from lawyers, health professionals and the opposition leader, Bill Shorten.

Two 17-year-old refugee boys were allegedly beaten and robbed by local men last week.

The Nauruan justice minister, David Adeang, said refugees living in the Nauruan community were not in physical danger and that reports of locals attacking them were “largely fabricated”.

“There is no gun violence in Nauru. People are not dying from domestic violence and our police don’t even have to be armed, so let’s get some perspective into this discussion,” he said.

“In some ways Nauru is safer than Australia.”

Nauru has promised all refugee determinations will be finalised within a week.

Guardian Australia has approached the Nauru government and Australia’s Department of Immigration and Border Protection for comment over Nazanin’s circumstances and the progress of investigations into her assault.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 04:00:56 PM
Astonishing this is happening in western countries in the 21st century.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 04:06:28 PM
Geographically, Australia is Eastern.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 04:08:50 PM
Geographically, Australia is Eastern.

Cheers Rand McNally.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 04:09:23 PM
Was talking to DJ
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 04:26:30 PM
:lol:

I'm pretty certain the term 'Western' has been interchangeable with 'developed' in casual discourse. I wasn't remapping the globe in that off-hand comment, there.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: cfcmagpies on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 08:37:00 PM
Our treatment of asylum seekers has been appalling. Amongst other things.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: taxfree on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 11:28:46 PM
Just saw an episode of the "Go back to where you came from" series. Basically one rather daft anti-immigration woman vs. the whole series. Such a scripted and one sided narrative :lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Thursday 8 October 2015, 12:26:08 AM
Just saw an episode of the "Go back to where you came from" series. Basically one rather daft anti-immigration woman vs. the whole series. Such a scripted and one sided narrative :lol:

You should see how many people born outside of Australia already live there, you'll be spitting - especially the numbers from Malaysia, India & Lebanon. All of which have Muslim heavy demographics as I'm sure you'll be aware.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 8 October 2015, 02:45:02 AM
Our treatment of asylum seekers has been appalling. Amongst other things.
Things are as bad on PNG, when the local police shock squad broke into the detention facility to quell a "riot" and killed an Iranian asylum seeker.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 8 October 2015, 04:02:09 AM
and there's more....

It's disgraceful how these f***ers hide behind the 'there's nothing to see here, now move along' soundbites.

Same as when Morrison was in immigration, they built 'the boats' up to such a big issue during the election, then got elected and wouldn't issue any more info on 'the boats' and then claimed that had stopped arriving - even when one sailed past an oil rig in Western Australia and a privately contracted spotter plane was shown flying in circles over the ocean on that aeroplane tracker website.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/pregnant-rape-victim-pleads-for-abortion#.erllw7Amv (http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/pregnant-rape-victim-pleads-for-abortion#.erllw7Amv)

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The Pregnant Refugee Pleading For An Abortion Won’t Get Out Of Bed And Is Losing Weight Fast

Calls grow louder to help Abyan.

The pregnant Somali woman who was allegedly raped on Nauru and is pleading with the Australian government for an abortion is sick, bed-bound and being fed milk and water by her roommate, according to her lawyer.

Abyan (not her real name) was one of two women allegedly raped in a night-time attack in August on the tiny pacific island, which houses asylum seekers who try to come to Australia.
Prominent human rights lawyer George Newhouse told BuzzFeed News the situation is urgent as the 23-year-old who became pregnant as a result of the alleged rape has suffered rapid weight loss and is refusing to eat.
“She’s sick, she cannot leave her room. She’s been fed water and milk by her roommate. She’s lost 10 kilos. She has not seen a psychologist or obstetrician in four weeks,” he said.
BuzzFeed News understands Newhouse and refugee lawyers are preparing for a legal challenge in the High Court unless the Australian government steps-in and provides abortion services to the alleged rape victim.
“We’ve put her in harm’s way and now we should care for her,” said the lawyer over the phone.
According to Newhouse, the legal team “has been working throughout the night” looking at options.
But some of the refugee lawyers are already tied-up with a pending high-profile challenge of Australia’s offshore detention network which is right now before the High Court.
There’s been growing calls for the new prime minister Malcolm Turnbull to intervene in Abyan’s case, with Labor, the Greens and refugee advocates all lining up to demand mercy for the woman.
An online petition launched by her lawyer, pleading with Turnbull has hauled in more than 35,000 signatures in the last 24 hours.
But when BuzzFeed News asked Turnbull’s office whether the PM would intervene, a spokesperson directed all enquiries to immigration minister Peter Dutton’s office.

Over the phone, a spokesperson in Dutton’s office refused to answer repeated direct questions about the alleged rape victim’s abortion request.
The spokesperson refuted international headlines that the abortion request had been knocked back and instead issued a statement.
“For privacy reasons, information is not provided on individual cases.
All pregnant women receive professional and coordinated health care,” it said.
Newhouse told BuzzFeed News that it’s categorically false Abyan is receiving adequate care, claiming she has not seen an obstetrician in four weeks.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 8 October 2015, 07:42:38 AM
Just saw an episode of the "Go back to where you came from" series. Basically one rather daft anti-immigration woman vs. the whole series. Such a scripted and one sided narrative :lol:

You should see how many people born outside of Australia already live there, you'll be spitting - especially the numbers from Malaysia, India & Lebanon. All of which have Muslim heavy demographics as I'm sure you'll be aware.

Pretty random, but yeah, I'm aware of that.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 8 October 2015, 09:14:23 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/08/why-cant-we-know-whats-happening-on-nauru-and-manus-island (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/08/why-cant-we-know-whats-happening-on-nauru-and-manus-island)

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The mistreatment of people detained on Nauru and Manus Island is notorious. The following facts are plain, even if they are not widely understood. Asylum seekers who tried to reach Australia by boat:

have committed no offence;

are removed to Manus or Nauru;

are held in detention centres operated on behalf of, and paid for by, the Commonwealth government;

are held in such degrading conditions that many fall into hopelessness and despair. This results in many incidents of self-harm and it causes others to abandon their claims for refugee protection. This appears to be the intended result.

The Commonwealth government, which has engaged in an extended orgy of self-congratulation for having “stopped the boats” is increasingly concerned to prevent ordinary Australians from learning about the way we treat asylum seekers in detention.

Successive Australian governments have actively prevented journalists from getting access to detention centres, here or offshore. These days, if a journalist wants a visa for Nauru, they will have to pay a $7,000 application fee, and the fee is not refunded if the application is refused.

It is a fair inference that the Australian immigration department tells Nauru who should be allowed to travel there. For a journalist to access the detention centre on Manus is virtually impossible. Even a lawyer, who went there in order to speak to a client, was bustled out of the detention centre, and out of the country.

In short: the federal government is anxious to ensure that we know as little as possible about offshore detention.

Why investigate whistleblowers instead of investigating the rape and assault of asylum seekers?
With support from a meek Labor party (which has forfeited any claim to decency on this issue) the government introduced the Australian Border Force Act. It came into operation on 1 July this year. Among other things, it makes it a criminal offence, punishable by two years’ jail, for a person who works in the detention system to disclose any fact they learn while working in the system.

In broad outline, it defines as an “entrusted person” anyone who works for the immigration department or a contractor to it; it is a criminal offence if an entrusted person “makes a record of, or discloses” protected information. “Protected information” is defined as “information that was obtained by a person in the person’s capacity as an entrusted person”. Strictly, that means that if a Transfield employee on Nauru wants to establish a relationship with a Wilson Security employee on Nauru and she writes down his mobile number, that would be a criminal offence.

More seriously, if a health worker employed by IHMS on Nauru becomes aware that a refugee child has been sexually assaulted by a Nauru local, it would be a criminal offence to report the fact of that sexual assault.

There is a defence provided by section 48 of the Act. It provides that an entrusted person may disclose protected information if:

(a) the entrusted person reasonably believes that the disclosure is necessary to prevent or lessen a serious threat to the life or health of an individual; and

(b) the disclosure is for the purposes of preventing or lessening that threat.

So, disclosing casual details for the purpose of being a nuisance is still a criminal offence. But disclosing the fact of sexual assaults, self-harm, cruel treatment etc would not be an offence if it was done for the genuine purpose of lessening a perceived serious threat to the life or health of other detainees.

It is fairly clear that all this is intended to discourage people in the detention system from speaking out. Fortunately, some have spoken out.

And, just in case the legislation has the chilling effect which is apparently intended, I will repeat the open offer I have previously made: if any worker in the detention system is prosecuted under the Australian Border Force Act, and if their conduct appears to be protected by section 48, I will make sure they get the best pro bono defence ever seen in this country.

I expect there will be a lot of lawyers eager to be part of the team. And the prosecution would be a public platform to expose the facts of the detention system, and its toxic effects. Because disclosing those facts will be central to the defence under section 48.

 Open letter on the Border Force Act: 'We challenge the department to prosecute'
 Read more
Earlier this month, the federal government called in the Australian federal police to investigate leaks of information from the Nauru detention centre. Significantly, the federal police have not been asked to investigate the rapes and beatings suffered by a number of detainees. The government says these are matters for the Nauru police who, so far, have shown no inclination to take any action at all.

From these facts, the following conclusions may be drawn:

The Australian government is aware that the public in Australia would be shocked to learn of our intentional mistreatment of innocent people in the detention system;
It is doing what it can to prevent information about the harshness of our detention system becoming generally known to the public;
It is investigating whistleblowers in the hope that workers in the detention system will be afraid to disclose what is going on.
All Australians, whatever their views on asylum seekers, need to ask themselves whether the government should ever make it a criminal offence to report a criminal offence. And they should ask themselves why the government is hiding the facts from us. Why are they afraid of the public knowing what is being done to innocent people at vast expense to the taxpayer?

And why investigate whistleblowers instead of investigating the rape and assault of asylum seekers who have been put in harm’s way by our government?
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Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 8 October 2015, 10:44:52 AM
When Scott Morrison was Immigration Minister, I thought he was one of the most evil men in government. Here was a man who professed to be a Christian, whose maiden speech in Parliament spoke of social justice, and yet who introduced the most draconian refugee processing policies on earth.

He has subsequently moved to Social Services and is now Treasurer - but in his place is Peter Dutton; a man who is not merely a buffoon, but a cold-hearted and bold-faced liar.

How the f*** do these people get elected? How do people get so f***ed up in the first place?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Incognito on Thursday 8 October 2015, 04:57:11 PM
When Scott Morrison was Immigration Minister, I thought he was one of the most evil men in government. Here was a man who professed to be a Christian, whose maiden speech in Parliament spoke of social justice, and yet who introduced the most draconian refugee processing policies on earth.

He has subsequently moved to Social Services and is now Treasurer - but in his place is Peter Dutton; a man who is not merely a buffoon, but a cold-hearted and bold-faced liar.

How the f*** do these people get elected? How do people get so f***ed up in the first place?
Seems to echo our situation.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Thursday 8 October 2015, 05:55:16 PM
Just saw an episode of the "Go back to where you came from" series. Basically one rather daft anti-immigration woman vs. the whole series. Such a scripted and one sided narrative :lol:

You should see how many people born outside of Australia already live there, you'll be spitting - especially the numbers from Malaysia, India & Lebanon. All of which have Muslim heavy demographics as I'm sure you'll be aware.

80% Hindu.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Friday 9 October 2015, 02:26:11 AM
When Scott Morrison was Immigration Minister, I thought he was one of the most evil men in government. Here was a man who professed to be a Christian, whose maiden speech in Parliament spoke of social justice, and yet who introduced the most draconian refugee processing policies on earth.

He has subsequently moved to Social Services and is now Treasurer - but in his place is Peter Dutton; a man who is not merely a buffoon, but a cold-hearted and bold-faced liar.

How the f*** do these people get elected? How do people get so f***ed up in the first place?
Seems to echo our situation.

Mate, Morrison is either a Christian fundamentalist or vicious, ruthless career climbing c***. He doesn't give a f*** and his time in immigration was particularly evil. Dutton is just an incompetent plank.

On a different note it didn't surprise me that Pyne was so upset about the gay marriage thing, he's clearly raving. :lol:

http://youtu.be/Hc9NRwp6fiI

http://youtu.be/jWa0WmMo-1Y
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 9 October 2015, 02:47:19 AM
Geographically, Australia is Eastern.

and culturally it is Western
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Post by: Incognito on Friday 9 October 2015, 07:04:24 AM
Geographically, Australia is Eastern.

and culturally it is Western
Geographically it can be Western too. Surely it depends which way you go?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 9 October 2015, 08:21:11 AM
On a different note it didn't surprise me that Pyne was so upset about the gay marriage thing, he's clearly raving. :lol:


God, this guy! Minister for Education, acts like a private school prefect (public school to you, I guess) and yet seems barely literate. Another winner in the Conservative All-Star Pack.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Friday 9 October 2015, 09:37:15 AM
Private to me as well mate. I'm in Perth
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 10 October 2015, 12:13:33 AM
Fair enough - I thought you were an ex-pat Englishman, and it is an English site. Trying to cater to my audience :lol:

I never understood how an education facility owned by a private entity is considered a "public school". What, then, are government-run schools called?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: newsted on Saturday 10 October 2015, 03:43:55 AM
State schools. Public schools here are charities, so there are tax advantages for your rich parents, who pay for you to go there, not to mention you'll probably get to be Prime Minister, or your mate will, or you'll be as rich as f***, as if you weren't already, because all your mates run the f***ing country.

:lol: The whole thing's f***ed. It costs the parents more for each kid to go there and get arse-raped daily than humans get paid for working their bollocks off, it makes no sense. I've got to work with the products of this system every day, and they are horrible damaged people, real bullies. Not surprising when mummy and daddy ditch you at age 4 and tell you that you can return when you're an adult and can make your own way. Jesus f***ing Christ, the telephone conversations we've all overheard at work have been hugely informative, desperate calls from their distanced sons begging for help as they're cornered and daddy just says "I'm busy". Mummy will be arranging flowers with her friends.

I shouldn't make light of it as we now have Cameron and Osborne, who are utterly despicable and deserve no sympathy, and will have been grunting into pillows a lot in their youth, in charge, but that's how it works. For f***'s sake. They've got all the money and the power and I hope they never know what happy means, the c***s.

Anyway, how's Australia? Nice and sunny?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 10 October 2015, 06:41:32 AM
Yeah mate you're right Raconteur it is a bit odd being called public schools :thup:

Newstead - they're not much better over here. We've still got some who think they were born to rule, our ex-PM and Treasurer for example. They may not be as toff, but they're still obnoxious arseholes.

33 here in Perth today after 36 yesterday. Just got with the kids from Little Athletics, been to bottle shop going to jump in the pool with a beer.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Sunday 11 October 2015, 07:41:54 AM
Just for you mate :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/i3sNc1ml.jpg)
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Friday 16 October 2015, 04:45:14 PM
Utterly ashamed of this govt for this. You've got to wonder if Dutton is a robot.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/16/australia-secretly-flies-pregnant-asylum-seeker-back-to-nauru-before-hearing (http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/16/australia-secretly-flies-pregnant-asylum-seeker-back-to-nauru-before-hearing)

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Australia secretly flies pregnant refugee out of country before hearing

The federal government has secretly flown a pregnant refugee out of Australia to escape a court injunction, chartering a jet to fly her back to Nauru and the detention centre where she was raped.

In an extraordinary effort that appears to be an attempt escape the reach of Australian courts, the government on Friday swiftly moved the 23-year-old Somalian, who is pregnant as a result of being raped on Nauru, from Villawood detention centre in Sydney.

The woman, known under the pseudonym Abyan, was raped by an unknown assailant in July.

Since her pregnancy has become known, she had been pleading with Australian authorities for weeks to be brought to Australia to terminate the pregnancy.

Because of restrictive abortion laws in Nauru and Papua New Guinea, there was nowhere in Australia’s offshore detention network where she could have the termination.

Abyan was brought to Australia on Sunday evening, and held at Villawood detention centre. She told friends and advocates she feared being sent back to Nauru.

“I cannot go back to where this happened to me; I cannot go to where I was raped. What happened to me there [in Nauru] is what caused me to run away from Somalia. What happened to me in Somalia is what happened to me there [in Nauru],” Abyan said.

Abyan had a medical appointment scheduled on Thursday, which she declined to attend, sources have told the Guardian.

The Department of Immigration and Border Protection is understood to have taken her non-attendance as refusing to have the termination.

However, advocates assisting Abyan say this is not true. They say she was only asking for more time to decide, and had asked repeatedly to see a counsellor, a request the Guardian understands, was not granted.

On Friday, department officials began making preparations to forcibly remove her from Australia.

Special counsel for Shine Lawyers George Newhouse, who is acting for Abyan, wrote to senior officials at the Department of Immigration and Border Protection on Friday before Abyan was removed from the country.


Return asylum seekers to offshore detention 'as soon as possible', officials urged
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“Our client has not decided to refuse a termination and you have completely misunderstood or misconstrued her position which is as set out in my letter ... of 14 October 2015,” he wrote.

“Our client has the right to counselling before a termination and to understand the procedure, that is all we have been seeking and to represent her position as a refusal is disingenuous and cruel.”

In the letter, Newhouse requested he be allowed to speak to his client – as afforded by Australian law and the 1951 Refugees Convention – before she was removed. He was not allowed to speak with her.

Hearing that Abyan was being moved, her lawyers sought an injunction against her removal in the federal court before Justice Jacqueline Gleeson.

But in court, they were told that Abyan was already out of the country, and had been flown by chartered jet to the Solomon Islands capital, Honiara. The government was planning to return her to Nauru on Friday night.

It appears the government chartered a RAAF 737 to make the flight to Nauru.

Newhouse said the government’s strategy in forcibly removing Abyan was aimed “at avoiding due process and any scrutiny”.

“The conduct of the Commonwealth in effectively abducting our client before we could speak to her or bring the matter to the court is astounding. I don’t think there’s been a case like it since the Petrov Affair.”

In acting for Abyan, Shine Lawyers took advice from leading women’s psychiatrists and obstetricians, Newhouse said.

“And our correspondence with the Commonwealth has been based on that. All we ask the Commonwealth to do, all we have been asking for is what any woman in this country would expect, and that is to be fit for the operation, to be counselled about the sexual assault and the pregnancy and to understand the operation so that she could give fully informed consent.”

Ian Rintoul from the Refugee Action Coalition with with Abyan in Villawood this week. He says he was shocked to discover she had been spirited out of the country.

“This is staggering beyond belief that they would act so deliberately to remove her from the court’s jurisdiction: they have flown her to Honiara to ensure they could be no court decision. Having recognised their mistake in the first place, and brought her to Australia, the government has gone to extraordinary lengths to deny her fundamental rights that would been afforded to any woman in Australia.”

Rintoul said he feared for Abyan’s physical safety on Nauru, and for her mental health.

“At a personal level, Abyan has already suffered enormous mental anguish, over the rape, and over her situation. I have at a personal level, serious fears for her health and her mental health They have placed her back in the most extreme desperate personal circumstances, with no concern for her wellbeing on Nauru.”

Repeated requests for information on Abyan’s case from the Department of Immigration and Border Protection, and from the minister’s office, received no response.

On Thursday, the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, said there was a “racket” among refugees and asylum seekers on Nauru seeking to come to Australia for medical care, so they could then demand their asylum claims be processed in Australia.

“The racket that’s been going on here is that people, at the margins, come to Australia from Nauru, the government’s then injuncted, we can’t send them back to Nauru and there are over 200 people in that category.

“Now, as I say, we want to provide support to the Nauruans. We want to provide a safe environment, a humane environment for people, but we aren’t going to be taken for mugs.”

Dutton cited Australian financial support for healthcare in Nauru – including $11m for a medical centre inside the detention centre, and $26m towards the refurbishment of Nauru’s hospital.

Pamela Curr from the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre said Abyan was being returned to danger.

“This is extraordinary and it is appalling that she’s going back to a place where she was raped. She is being forced back into the Community, at the same risk she was at before.

“She is now being forced to have a baby that she may not want. In a country where it is not safe, where there is a rapist that knows it is his child. She is not safe.”

Curr said the government, and the immigration department in particular, was “waging war on women”

“They have used force to put this person beyond the reach of Australian courts.”

No one has been charged with Abyan’s assault. She declined to go to police, telling caseworkers she feared her attacker finding out she had lodged a complaint.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 17 October 2015, 08:41:22 AM
That's a f***ing disgrace! How can a so called civilised country behave in such a Neanderthal manner?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 17 October 2015, 08:51:31 AM

On Thursday, the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, said there was a “racket” among refugees and asylum seekers on Nauru seeking to come to Australia for medical care, so they could then demand their asylum claims be processed in Australia.

“The racket that’s been going on here is that people, at the margins, come to Australia from Nauru, the government’s then injuncted, we can’t send them back to Nauru and there are over 200 people in that category.


I'm sure Dutton thinks she meant to be raped so that she could manipulate the government into bringing her to Australia. I mean, she refused the medical appointment, what more evidence do you need that it's a scam.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 23 January 2016, 07:40:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qpI49SuDTo

:lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Saturday 23 January 2016, 08:18:08 PM
Off to Perth on Wednesday. Looking forward to seeing my brother get married :)
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 24 February 2016, 04:43:38 PM
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11594579

:yao:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 24 February 2016, 04:50:44 PM
Like f*** would I ever sleep in that house again.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 14 May 2016, 04:13:45 PM
Incredible stuff from someone who's rags and governments preach austerity.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/17/rupert-murdoch-receives-882m-tax-rebate (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/17/rupert-murdoch-receives-882m-tax-rebate)
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 2 October 2016, 09:45:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPDnKj6NkIk
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 2 October 2016, 09:48:30 PM
Useful consumer advice.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 24 November 2016, 04:41:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QCgqQdmr0M&ab_channel=IWakeUpWithTODAY
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 18 April 2017, 10:40:20 AM
http://news.sky.com/story/australia-scraps-457-temporary-work-visa-to-put-australians-first-10841971
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 02:45:11 PM
Any chance of a title change please?

Australian election on the 18th of May, you’ll see some batshit stuff not far behind the US and Farage in this one  :lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 02:46:32 PM
Happy to provide updates on Pauline self destructing and Morrison being a tit if anyone is interested?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 03:14:03 PM
Any chance of a title change please?

Australian election on the 18th of May, you’ll see some batshit stuff not far behind the US and Farage in this one  :lol:

At least it's not f***ing "convicts" :lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 03:22:31 PM
 :lol:

Quite happy to see Pauline’s vote nosediving. I see Malcolm Roberts has made an appearance on qanda, with Boris Johnson’s racist former fluffer.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 11 May 2019, 04:15:43 PM
Interestingly Labor have refused to meet with Murdoch, his rags have gone full ‘Liberal’ but people are now seeing through it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-11/federal-election-2019-shorten-finds-feet-morrison-panics/11102786
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 11 May 2019, 04:16:18 PM
One week left.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 11 May 2019, 04:18:34 PM
Absolutely hilarious

https://youtu.be/K96UZANYngU
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 12 May 2019, 03:03:48 AM
Pretty sure I've called for these fascist microwankers to be executed enough times that I'm on the ASIO watch list.

My favourite is the Qld seat with four fascists and the LNP amongst its seven candidates.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 17 May 2019, 07:18:07 AM
So, it's election day tomorrow, and even though only two people read this thread, I'm feeling melancholic because, well, because.

Apparently it's not going to be the landslide everyone predicted. I'm going for Labor to win government with the bare 76 seats, and the Senate to be another shitshow that will end up with the LNP and assorted fascist microwankers in the majority. Shorten will prove to be ineffective and s***, and the calls for him to be replaced by Plibersek or Albanese will start within a year.

Hooray for another three years of useless politicians being useless. Best we can hope for is that we don't follow the lead of Trump and Farage into the trending fuckwittery.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 17 May 2019, 07:41:04 AM
In other Australian news, former PM Bob Hawke died yesterday. I'm massively conflicted about his legacy as a Labor PM, but he's better known for his beer drinking feats anyway. He once held the world record for necking a yardglass of beer, and at the cricket, he would always skull a beer handed to him by a stranger. Here's Shane Warne commentating on one such episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hima6KCQ-yE
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Pandamninator on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:11:58 AM
So, it's election day tomorrow, and even though only two people read this thread, I'm feeling melancholic because, well, because.

Apparently it's not going to be the landslide everyone predicted. I'm going for Labor to win government with the bare 76 seats, and the Senate to be another shitshow that will end up with the LNP and assorted fascist microwankers in the majority. Shorten will prove to be ineffective and s***, and the calls for him to be replaced by Plibersek or Albanese will start within a year.

Hooray for another three years of useless politicians being useless. Best we can hope for is that we don't follow the lead of Trump and Farage into the trending fuckwittery.

No-one who wasn't drinking the kool-aid thought was going to be 2007 all over again though. 

Also worth noting that pre-voting is at record levels, many cast before the last minute opinion poll tightening.  The Senate is always a clusterfuck, but for what it's worth depending on how many they pick up, they can potentially rely on the more "normal" independents, Xenophon's former disciples are a bunch of weirdos but hold reasonable enough opinions on many things.

Whatever the result, I am a New Zealander (but also hold Australian citizenship currently living in Sydney) who voted for John Key and the centre right National Party for 3 straight elections back home - but here I am voting for a Labor Party led by a former union strongman in my first Australian election, which shows how f***ed the current situation is for the Liberals.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Froggy on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:59:04 AM
So, it's election day tomorrow, and even though only two people read this thread, I'm feeling melancholic because, well, because.

Apparently it's not going to be the landslide everyone predicted. I'm going for Labor to win government with the bare 76 seats, and the Senate to be another shitshow that will end up with the LNP and assorted fascist microwankers in the majority. Shorten will prove to be ineffective and s***, and the calls for him to be replaced by Plibersek or Albanese will start within a year.

Hooray for another three years of useless politicians being useless. Best we can hope for is that we don't follow the lead of Trump and Farage into the trending fuckwittery.

I read every post but don't really have anything to contribute. :lol: Still like keeping up with Australia though.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 18 May 2019, 12:12:03 AM
it happen
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Pandamninator on Saturday 18 May 2019, 12:12:03 PM
Well Australia is f***ed.

I'll be fine, I'm a dirty contractor in a high demand field with the back-up of moving back home to NZ, but many of these fools in Queensland who just re-elected Morrison won't be. 
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 18 May 2019, 12:17:02 PM
Well Australia is f***ed.

I'll be fine, I'm a dirty contractor in a high demand field with the back-up of moving back home to NZ, but many of these fools in Queensland who just re-elected Morrison won't be. 

What's the issue?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Pandamninator on Saturday 18 May 2019, 12:56:02 PM
Well Australia is f***ed.

I'll be fine, I'm a dirty contractor in a high demand field with the back-up of moving back home to NZ, but many of these fools in Queensland who just re-elected Morrison won't be. 

What's the issue?

Liberals have many of the same issues as the Conservative Party over in the UK have - there is a moderate wing nominally in power, but the crazies on the back bench have enough sway so they try to placate them - not realising they will never be happy.

Like I said the other day, I am a somewhat right wing person, and in isolation I have no real issues with Scott Morrison as a PM and some of the cabinet, but the whacko, bible thumping conservatives driving the party scare me. 
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 18 May 2019, 03:12:12 PM
Australia is going to get what it deserves for actively contributing to climate change and not giving a f*** about it.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 18 May 2019, 03:24:08 PM
Australia is going to get what it deserves for actively contributing to climate change and not giving a f*** about it.

f***.Me.

Spoke to a few people, needed excuses to vote Labor, didn’t have them.

The next election will be interesting as the predicted recession should hit soon.

No issues with Morrison, yeah right, he’s just stated it was a miracle he was returned. A miracle.

He wants to keep people locked up like animals on Manus but I’m sure that pandy has no issue will comfort them
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 19 May 2019, 06:53:35 AM
Can't believe Australians looked at the last six years of Tory tight-fistedness and though "Yeah, more of the same please, with a side order of evangelism thanks."

Neesy's right - we f***ing deserve everything.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 19 May 2019, 04:12:53 PM
This is good news, at least?

https://www.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/controversial-right-wing-politician-fraser-anning-booted-from-senate-20190519-p51ovz.html
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 20 May 2019, 10:54:46 AM
:thup: It’s certainly a positive - although it seems the equally racist but considerably stupider Malcolm Roberts has been returned :anguish:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Monday 20 May 2019, 11:43:26 AM
Can't believe Australians looked at the last six years of Tory tight-fistedness and though "Yeah, more of the same please, with a side order of evangelism thanks."

Neesy's right - we f***ing deserve everything.

f***ing unbelievable wasn’t it?

Concerns were first raised on Saturday afternoon when picking my daughter up from her hairdresser.

Got chatting about the election and she announced she was voting liberal because ‘there’s nothing really wrong with the country so why change?’

She’s Scottish so I asked her would she have voted Tory if she was there, response was ‘not a chance in hell’.

That’s exactly the sort of person Labor failed to reach and why they lost.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 20 May 2019, 11:55:34 AM
Wow.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 21 May 2019, 11:46:35 AM
Can't believe Australians looked at the last six years of Tory tight-fistedness and though "Yeah, more of the same please, with a side order of evangelism thanks."

Neesy's right - we f***ing deserve everything.

f***ing unbelievable wasn’t it?

Concerns were first raised on Saturday afternoon when picking my daughter up from her hairdresser.

Got chatting about the election and she announced she was voting liberal because ‘there’s nothing really wrong with the country so why change?’


She’s Scottish so I asked her would she have voted Tory if she was there, response was ‘not a chance in hell’.

That’s exactly the sort of person Labor failed to reach and why they lost.

And if she ever has to hire an apprentice, she'll wonder why the TAFE system is so completely f***ed et al.

They're just so ignorant. I'm working in a boys school writing essays on asylum seekers, and so many parrot their redneck parents. It's just mindblowing how weirdly some people view the world.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Tuesday 21 May 2019, 02:20:50 PM
Can't believe Australians looked at the last six years of Tory tight-fistedness and though "Yeah, more of the same please, with a side order of evangelism thanks."

Neesy's right - we f***ing deserve everything.

f***ing unbelievable wasn’t it?

Concerns were first raised on Saturday afternoon when picking my daughter up from her hairdresser.

Got chatting about the election and she announced she was voting liberal because ‘there’s nothing really wrong with the country so why change?’


She’s Scottish so I asked her would she have voted Tory if she was there, response was ‘not a chance in hell’.

That’s exactly the sort of person Labor failed to reach and why they lost.

And if she ever has to hire an apprentice, she'll wonder why the TAFE system is so completely f***ed et al.

They're just so ignorant. I'm working in a boys school writing essays on asylum seekers, and so many parrot their redneck parents. It's just mindblowing how weirdly some people view the world.

Which state are you in again mate?

I thought WA was redneck but f*** me Queensland is backwards, absolute basket case.

Never seen so many racists in one place.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 21 May 2019, 10:26:35 PM
Can't believe Australians looked at the last six years of Tory tight-fistedness and though "Yeah, more of the same please, with a side order of evangelism thanks."

Neesy's right - we f***ing deserve everything.

f***ing unbelievable wasn’t it?

Concerns were first raised on Saturday afternoon when picking my daughter up from her hairdresser.

Got chatting about the election and she announced she was voting liberal because ‘there’s nothing really wrong with the country so why change?’


She’s Scottish so I asked her would she have voted Tory if she was there, response was ‘not a chance in hell’.

That’s exactly the sort of person Labor failed to reach and why they lost.

And if she ever has to hire an apprentice, she'll wonder why the TAFE system is so completely f***ed et al.

They're just so ignorant. I'm working in a boys school writing essays on asylum seekers, and so many parrot their redneck parents. It's just mindblowing how weirdly some people view the world.

Which state are you in again mate?

I thought WA was redneck but f*** me Queensland is backwards, absolute basket case.

Never seen so many racists in one place.


I’m in the Massachusetts of Australia, where we sit in ivory towers and look down our noses at everyone. Apparently.

I’m in one of the safest Labor seats in Australia, with our senior right wing Labor member mentioned on Saturday as contemplating a leadership bid (but not since). Right wing Labor - just a farce...
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 07:21:34 AM
From Rupert Murdoch's ludicrously parochial The Australian, a warning that the Tories have to come up with a plan to keep up their stupidly generous rebates to investors - something Labor absolutely lost the election promising to fix:

Quote



The Morrison government will need to consider cuts to spending or increasing the GST or other consumption taxes to offset the increasing revenue loss from the continuation of excess franking credit refunds, according to KPMG tax specialist Damian Ryan.

Following Labor’s failure to win office, blamed in part to hostility to its planned clampdown on tax concessions, Mr Ryan said the revenue issue that was “trying to be addressed” by the opposition’s plan to ban excess refundable franking credits still remains a problem.

“As the Australian population ages, and as more shares are held by retired Australian individuals and superannuation funds with a significant proportion of members in pension phase, a significant part of the corporate tax base is refunded, thereby putting a strain on the country’s tax base,” Mr Ryan said.

“Assuming that the current situation of refundable franking credits continues, then Australia will continue to refund part of its corporate tax base. The other alternatives are to accept the reduced tax base, and correct spending accordingly, or to revisit the tax base, including consumption taxes, which is just as politically difficult,” he said.


Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:31:58 PM
Will be interesting how the Libs deal with the forthcoming recession and failure to ‘be back in black’ next year which they were going to hang around Labor’s neck.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 07:20:42 AM
?s=19
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 23 May 2019, 11:06:34 AM
That seat adjoins mine - half my students live in that electorate...
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:36:23 PM
That seat adjoins mine - half my students live in that electorate...

Massachusetts of Australia :lol:

Rusted on and thick as f***
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:58:23 PM
?s=19

Jeez, this winds me up. It would help a little if she wasn't so f***ing pleased with herself. Not a lot, but a little.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 24 May 2019, 10:55:18 AM
Surprised she wasn’t a Clive Palmer voter. f***ing retards. It’s a wonderful advertisement for voluntary voting.

Of course, Brexit and Trump are wonderful advertisements for compulsory voting ;)
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: cfcmagpies on Sunday 26 May 2019, 12:15:49 AM
I live in Queensland. There are many and varied reasons for the disastrous election result last weekend. One of the consequences, though, is this fucktard has been re-elected:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Z80sEV4AErrzR.jpg)


Poor fella my country.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Sunday 26 May 2019, 11:52:25 AM
I live in Queensland. There are many and varied reasons for the disastrous election result last weekend. One of the consequences, though, is this fucktard has been re-elected:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Z80sEV4AErrzR.jpg)


Poor fella my country.

:lol: he’s generally laughed at though, nowhere near as insidious as Anning.

That pretty much sums up Queensland though, nevermind the sunshine state, more like the racist redneck state.


I thought Western Australia was a bit backwards when I first got here but f*** me, Queensland is incredible.

Thought it was hilarious though, that Roberts was trying to dig Hanson out of a hole after she accused ‘the left’ of torching the ute, then it came out it was the one brain cell driver :lol:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 26 May 2019, 12:17:49 PM
So what are the sensible states?  NSW, Victoria or SA?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: cfcmagpies on Sunday 26 May 2019, 12:21:42 PM
I live in Queensland. There are many and varied reasons for the disastrous election result last weekend. One of the consequences, though, is this fucktard has been re-elected:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Z80sEV4AErrzR.jpg)


Poor fella my country.

  he’s generally laughed at though, nowhere near as insidious as Anning.

That pretty much sums up Queensland though, nevermind the sunshine state, more like the racist redneck state.


I thought Western Australia was a bit backwards when I first got here but f*** me, Queensland is incredible.

Thought it was hilarious though, that Roberts was trying to dig Hanson out of a hole after she accused ‘the left’ of torching the ute, then it came out it was the one brain cell driver

Disagree. One Nation are the ones that brought the racism back to Australian politics 20+ years ago- and allowed Howard to do the same. They've consistently shifted the Overton window to the right- they've been the trailblazers for the likes of Anning.


Edit: for what it's worth, regarding Queensland- the Murdochs own essentially every newspaper (state and local) in the state.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Sunday 26 May 2019, 01:26:45 PM
I live in Queensland. There are many and varied reasons for the disastrous election result last weekend. One of the consequences, though, is this fucktard has been re-elected:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Z80sEV4AErrzR.jpg)


Poor fella my country.

  he’s generally laughed at though, nowhere near as insidious as Anning.

That pretty much sums up Queensland though, nevermind the sunshine state, more like the racist redneck state.


I thought Western Australia was a bit backwards when I first got here but f*** me, Queensland is incredible.

Thought it was hilarious though, that Roberts was trying to dig Hanson out of a hole after she accused ‘the left’ of torching the ute, then it came out it was the one brain cell driver

Disagree. One Nation are the ones that brought the racism back to Australian politics 20+ years ago- and allowed Howard to do the same. They've consistently shifted the Overton window to the right- they've been the trailblazers for the likes of Anning.


Edit: for what it's worth, regarding Queensland- the Murdochs own essentially every newspaper (state and local) in the state.

Fair point about ON although the likes of Roberts are generally laughed outside of ON, Anning was a different level.

Queensland runs deeper than just newspapers, the large regional population doesn’t help but it’s been going on longer than Murdoch.

The incredible amount of dickhead pollies coming out of there extolling the virtues of racism is unprecedented compared to the rest of the country.

So what are the sensible states?  NSW, Victoria or SA?

At the moment Neesy Victoria is easily the most left leaning seat. Out of all of the cities it’s easily the most forward thinking but also the most pretentious as well.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 08:41:54 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-48522729

Disturbing stuff.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: cfcmagpies on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 11:20:00 AM
Yeah- the day after the AFP raided the home of a Newscorp journalist over stories regarding alleged plans for Australian spooks to spy on Australian citizens. Very concerning stuff.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 12:07:11 PM
Pretty soon after they’ve just been re-elected this happens direct from Potato Dutton.

I’m a bit relieved they’ve only got a majority of one and it’s going to be interesting to see how they’ll pick the economy up they were trying to destroy when they thought they had no chance.

p*ss weak figures in today and a RBA interest rate cut. All of this was going to be hung round Labor’s neck, I reckon the Libs will burn in the next election
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 7 June 2019, 01:51:53 PM
Pretty soon after they’ve just been re-elected this happens direct from Potato Dutton.

I’m a bit relieved they’ve only got a majority of one and it’s going to be interesting to see how they’ll pick the economy up they were trying to destroy when they thought they had no chance.

p*ss weak figures in today and a RBA interest rate cut. All of this was going to be hung round Labor’s neck, I reckon the Libs will burn in the next election

They should have burned last month. Absurd they get to cut services and give tax breaks to millionaires for three more years.

The ABC raid is terrifying - going after people who leak war crimes to the media is clearly in authoritarian territory. Again, three more years of this.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 20 June 2019, 03:03:18 PM
One of the most despicable people in politics worldwide.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/20/peter-dutton-says-women-using-and-abortion-claims-as-ploy-to-get-to-australia
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Thursday 20 June 2019, 03:30:39 PM
In happier news: My wife has a conference on the Gold Coast next July and we're all going out there. She and my kids have never been to Oz. I was born in Sydney and most of my family are there, so we'll be spending most of our time in Sydney but will be on the Gold Coast for a bit and also hope to do the Reef.

I've not been back since I met my wife, so things have probably changed a fair bit. I was hoping to take them to Melbourne too but we might not have time. I love Melbourne, plus Mum was born in Richmond and her folks are from Warrnambool, so we could do the Ocean Road.

Anyhoo, I'm looking for advice, and as much as you can spare. These are my main questipns:

(1) Great Barrier Reef: Has anyone got experience of going with kids? Mine are 8 and 9 and OK but certainly not strong swimmers and have no experience at sea which makes me nervous. How long do you think we should allow for a trip to the Reef? Does anyone recommend any tour companies?

(2) Sydney: I know a few things I want to do but it's been over a decade so can anyone give me a few things we shouldn't miss? We're hoping to stay in a cousin's flat downtown but might be out in Roseville.

(3) Gold Coast: I don't really know any specifics. I was thinking about driving down the coast from there to Sydney over a couple of days - maybe stopping in Byron Bay or elsewhere. Worth it or no?

(4) Anything else I should consider? We're not going to do Canberra but could be persuaded by Uluru - I just don't know if we'll have the time. Melbourne is more likely.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 20 June 2019, 04:56:23 PM
In happier news: My wife has a conference on the Gold Coast next July and we're all going out there. She and my kids have never been to Oz. I was born in Sydney and most of my family are there, so we'll be spending most of our time in Sydney but will be on the Gold Coast for a bit and also hope to do the Reef.

I've not been back since I met my wife, so things have probably changed a fair bit. I was hoping to take them to Melbourne too but we might not have time. I love Melbourne, plus Mum was born in Richmond and her folks are from Warrnambool, so we could do the Ocean Road.

Anyhoo, I'm looking for advice, and as much as you can spare. These are my main questipns:

(1) Great Barrier Reef: Has anyone got experience of going with kids? Mine are 8 and 9 and OK but certainly not strong swimmers and have no experience at sea which makes me nervous. How long do you think we should allow for a trip to the Reef? Does anyone recommend any tour companies?

(2) Sydney: I know a few things I want to do but it's been over a decade so can anyone give me a few things we shouldn't miss? We're hoping to stay in a cousin's flat downtown but might be out in Roseville.

(3) Gold Coast: I don't really know any specifics. I was thinking about driving down the coast from there to Sydney over a couple of days - maybe stopping in Byron Bay or elsewhere. Worth it or no?

(4) Anything else I should consider? We're not going to do Canberra but could be persuaded by Uluru - I just don't know if we'll have the time. Melbourne is more likely.

Thanks!

Pm me exact dates etc mate, happy to help out where I can
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Friday 21 June 2019, 02:54:51 PM
In happier news: My wife has a conference on the Gold Coast next July and we're all going out there. She and my kids have never been to Oz. I was born in Sydney and most of my family are there, so we'll be spending most of our time in Sydney but will be on the Gold Coast for a bit and also hope to do the Reef.

I've not been back since I met my wife, so things have probably changed a fair bit. I was hoping to take them to Melbourne too but we might not have time. I love Melbourne, plus Mum was born in Richmond and her folks are from Warrnambool, so we could do the Ocean Road.

Anyhoo, I'm looking for advice, and as much as you can spare. These are my main questipns:

(1) Great Barrier Reef: Has anyone got experience of going with kids? Mine are 8 and 9 and OK but certainly not strong swimmers and have no experience at sea which makes me nervous. How long do you think we should allow for a trip to the Reef? Does anyone recommend any tour companies?

(2) Sydney: I know a few things I want to do but it's been over a decade so can anyone give me a few things we shouldn't miss? We're hoping to stay in a cousin's flat downtown but might be out in Roseville.

(3) Gold Coast: I don't really know any specifics. I was thinking about driving down the coast from there to Sydney over a couple of days - maybe stopping in Byron Bay or elsewhere. Worth it or no?

(4) Anything else I should consider? We're not going to do Canberra but could be persuaded by Uluru - I just don't know if we'll have the time. Melbourne is more likely.

Thanks!

Pm me exact dates etc mate, happy to help out where I can

Nice one, will do.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 20 July 2019, 07:30:04 AM
Meanwhile, in Australia.....

 :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/k94pO9m.jpg)
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 20 July 2019, 08:59:04 AM
No one loves “empirical” evidence like Malcolm. It’s like he learned one word in high school science and that was it.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: SheikhShearer on Saturday 20 July 2019, 09:05:32 AM
Meanwhile, in Australia.....

 :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/k94pO9m.jpg)

Has he spelled his own surname wrong in his handle?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 1 October 2019, 09:20:39 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49887733

What a c*** your PM is.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Tuesday 1 October 2019, 09:32:22 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49887733

What a c*** your PM is.

Yep and that’s a lower one on his scale of cuntishness
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 1 October 2019, 10:22:25 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49887733

What a c*** your PM is.

Yep and that’s a lower one on his scale of cuntishness

And akin to saying "What a shade of blue the sky is".

This is a man who instituted policies that saw military ships forcibly turn back asylum seeker ships in international waters - and then had a trophy commissioned to celebrate the achievement of "Stopping the boats".
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Tuesday 1 October 2019, 12:13:47 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49887733

What a c*** your PM is.

Yep and that’s a lower one on his scale of cuntishness

And akin to saying "What a shade of blue the sky is".

This is a man who instituted policies that saw military ships forcibly turn back asylum seeker ships in international waters - and then had a trophy commissioned to celebrate the achievement of "Stopping the boats".

Not to mention the Christmas Island detention centre debacle a little bit ago.

Happy clapping c***
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Troll on Thursday 12 December 2019, 11:46:34 PM
Anyone applied for a visa here before?  I'm applying for the skilled independent visa (where they give you permanent residency without a job), and it looks like I need to sit an English test despite being from an English speaking country.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Friday 13 December 2019, 02:39:59 AM
Question 1. Are the Poms England s*** at cricket?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: adam on Friday 13 December 2019, 05:06:53 AM
Anyone applied for a visa here before?  I'm applying for the skilled independent visa (where they give you permanent residency without a job), and it looks like I need to sit an English test despite being from an English speaking country.

Assuming you're from the UK, you won't.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Troll on Friday 13 December 2019, 05:17:24 AM
Anyone applied for a visa here before?  I'm applying for the skilled independent visa (where they give you permanent residency without a job), and it looks like I need to sit an English test despite being from an English speaking country.

Assuming you're from the UK, you won't.

Doesn't look like you get any points without the test.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: adam on Friday 13 December 2019, 06:59:51 AM
Anyone applied for a visa here before?  I'm applying for the skilled independent visa (where they give you permanent residency without a job), and it looks like I need to sit an English test despite being from an English speaking country.

Assuming you're from the UK, you won't.

Doesn't look like you get any points without the test.

So an natural English speaker will always get less points than a non English speaker?

"You are exempt from needing to prove English language proficiency if one of the following apply:

you are a passport holder from:
Canada
New Zealand
the Republic of Ireland
the United Kingdom
the United States of America"
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 13 December 2019, 11:35:56 AM
Between here and Canada for my next move abroad.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 13 December 2019, 11:49:53 AM
Yeah, look, we just re-elected a cuntservative government who was ranked worst in the world for climate change, whose PM says the cricket will take people's minds off the whole country burning and the volunteer firefighters don't need extra support as "THEY WANT TO BE THERE". (That's an actual quote).

Go Canada, my friend. Rupert and the cuntservatives rule here too.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Troll on Friday 13 December 2019, 03:27:49 PM
Anyone applied for a visa here before?  I'm applying for the skilled independent visa (where they give you permanent residency without a job), and it looks like I need to sit an English test despite being from an English speaking country.

Assuming you're from the UK, you won't.

Doesn't look like you get any points without the test.

So an natural English speaker will always get less points than a non English speaker?

"You are exempt from needing to prove English language proficiency if one of the following apply:

you are a passport holder from:
Canada
New Zealand
the Republic of Ireland
the United Kingdom
the United States of America"

They have three levels of English proficiency: competent (0 pts), proficient (10pts), and superior (20pts).  From what I can gather, being from one of those countries only gives you competent level, you need to take the test to get higher (and without those 20 points you're probably not getting in).
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 14 December 2019, 11:39:05 AM
About to have their hottest day on record.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 15 December 2019, 06:06:56 AM
About to have their hottest day on record.

Kinda, sorta, maybe. Not really.

https://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/like-a-furnace-massive-heatwave-could-roast-australian-records-20191213-p53jps.html

But yeah, incoming heatwave. We’re not expecting records where I am (39.15 degrees South latitude for the geography nerds) or even the hottest in the 20 years - in 2007 the mercury reached 47 degrees in my southern seaside town...
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2019, 08:10:56 AM
Daft gets, don't they realise it's winter
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Froggy on Tuesday 17 December 2019, 06:40:34 AM
About to have their hottest day on record.

Kinda, sorta, maybe. Not really.

https://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/like-a-furnace-massive-heatwave-could-roast-australian-records-20191213-p53jps.html

But yeah, incoming heatwave. We’re not expecting records where I am (39.15 degrees South latitude for the geography nerds) or even the hottest in the 20 years - in 2007 the mercury reached 47 degrees in my southern seaside town...

As a plump, pasty Irishman I was there in the angry summer of 2012/2013. It was f***ing grim. :lol: 46 degrees I believe and the hottest day on record in Sydney
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: adam on Tuesday 17 December 2019, 09:43:24 AM
About to have their hottest day on record.

41 degrees at home tomorrow. Actually grateful of the 3 degrees it is in Jarra right now.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 18 December 2019, 01:10:04 PM
About to have their hottest day on record.

So, the Bureau of Meteorology has announced yesterday was the hottest average temperature ever recorded - the average temperature across the country was 40.6 degrees. So you were right, using whatever metric the BoM use.

46 degrees recorded in several locations today. More than half the country is on fire. Seems the perfect time for the  cuntservative Prime Minister to leave the country on holidays - and it’s apparently a state secret where he is. Rumours of Hawaii or New York. Not here though.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 18 December 2019, 02:32:25 PM
About to have their hottest day on record.

So, the Bureau of Meteorology has announced yesterday was the hottest average temperature ever recorded - the average temperature across the country was 40.6 degrees. So you were right, using whatever metric the BoM use.

46 degrees recorded in several locations today. More than half the country is on fire. Seems the perfect time for the  cuntservative Prime Minister to leave the country on holidays - and it’s apparently a state secret where he is. Rumours of Hawaii or New York. Not here though.

Yeah we’ve had it bad in Perth for the last two weeks. Getting a bit humid now which is s****
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 20 December 2019, 01:17:36 PM
https://earther.gizmodo.com/water-thieves-steal-80-000-gallons-in-australia-as-our-1840549648?utm_medium=socialflow&utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1foRhYw1qTNHrhu4gnNFzxZ3l3jk_shhE2E8962bVFvbcCWchnFvV33ls
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Varadi on Monday 30 December 2019, 11:46:50 AM
Some pretty apocalyptic looking s*** going on down there still

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/30/one-firefighter-killed-australian-bushfires-rip-through-four-states

This bit is especially terrifying:

In New South Wales a fire-generated thunderstorm, or pyro-cumulonimbus, formed over fires burning near the south coast. A pyro-cumulonimbus can create erratic winds and dry lightning and result in significantly faster fire spread.

 :kasper:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 30 December 2019, 01:32:22 PM
Yeah, it’s all kinds of f***ed up.

Our PM has said volunteer firefighters can get up to $6000 in relief payments, which sounds great until you look at the fine print:

Only New South Wales firefighters have been made this offer, despite all states burning, and fireys from all states going to the worst-affected states. Therefore, a NSW firefighter might get compensation, but the Victorian fighting alongside him thousands of miles from home will not

Only public servants are eligible for relief payments/compensation, so the council worker who volunteers might get compensation, but the farmer fighting next to him will not.

$6000 is a headline figure based on a top-tier public servant’s wage and I don’t imagine many department heads volunteer with Rural Fire Services.

Some cuntservatives have said “It’s a volunteer service”, which is true, until you realise that people have been volunteering for a solid month now, can’t leave the fire front to pop back to work for a shift and therefore are largely going without salary while performing heroics that the government begrudgingly acknowledges is essential to not destroying the whole country. Reports that the nation’s firefighters repeatedly tried to hold crisis talks with the government for months beforehand, only to be ignored because they had the audacity to say climate change was impacting on bushfire season projections... it’s not good at all
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Thursday 2 January 2020, 10:18:02 AM
That video of the Aussie PM doing the rounds on social media is incredible.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 10:28:22 AM
Don't think i've seen a more ignorant country than Australia when it comes to Climate Change.  Even though doing nothing will cost them more even in the short term.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 10:30:21 AM
That video of the Aussie PM doing the rounds on social media is incredible.

Which one?

The one where he says it's tremendous to be at a funeral :anguish: or the one where he forces a woman to shake his hand who's visibly angry? :anguish:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 2 January 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Don't think i've seen a more ignorant country than Australia when it comes to Climate Change. Even though doing nothing will cost them more even in the short term.

Steady on. Our country is run by a cabal of hardcore conservative nuts who believe the economy is more important than the environment. You’re talking about less than a thousand people in a nation of 26 million.

They win elections because of a hardcore conservative media and the ability to convince just over half the population that the “lefties” are out to steal their hard earned. (See, we have compulsory voting, and statistically half the population is of below average intelligence) Plus the small matter of the Labor opposition being complete fuckwits.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 02:06:00 PM
when are people going to wake up to the fact that "conservatives" around the world are in fact destroying it :lol:

you've got to admire them on a certain level tbh
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Don't think i've seen a more ignorant country than Australia when it comes to Climate Change. Even though doing nothing will cost them more even in the short term.

Steady on. Our country is run by a cabal of hardcore conservative nuts who believe the economy is more important than the environment. You’re talking about less than a thousand people in a nation of 26 million.

They win elections because of a hardcore conservative media and the ability to convince just over half the population that the “lefties” are out to steal their hard earned. (See, we have compulsory voting, and statistically half the population is of below average intelligence) Plus the small matter of the Labor opposition being complete fuckwits.

Fair enough, what I don't understand about Labor is that they weren't positioning themselves on the climate as well.  I guess these fires could be a game changer?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:20:19 PM
It’s an absolute disgrace.

We have a fundamentalist, Pentecostal, happy clappy c*** of a pm who doesn’t believe in climate change.

This is probably the video

https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-cobargo-tour-hastily-moves-on-as-residents-express-anger/98f2b3ff-e648-4e65-a84d-f5273d5e930e?fbclid=IwAR2wfuMhoDq7xTOoQHjsTmCkbSZwwKaRrAkZ_StcBCzeQ0E4_LDLBVSr8Oo
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:21:41 PM
I was in our office which is on the 42nd floor of an office block overlooking circular quay in Sydney just before Christmas, never seen anything like it before with the smoke. I’ll try and post pics later
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:23:42 PM
Don't think i've seen a more ignorant country than Australia when it comes to Climate Change. Even though doing nothing will cost them more even in the short term.

Steady on. Our country is run by a cabal of hardcore conservative nuts who believe the economy is more important than the environment. You’re talking about less than a thousand people in a nation of 26 million.

They win elections because of a hardcore conservative media and the ability to convince just over half the population that the “lefties” are out to steal their hard earned. (See, we have compulsory voting, and statistically half the population is of below average intelligence) Plus the small matter of the Labor opposition being complete fuckwits.

Fair enough, what I don't understand about Labor is that they weren't positioning themselves on the climate as well.  I guess these fires could be a game changer?

Labor actually did, not like the carbon tax but they had hugely better plans for bush fires and emergency services.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:24:02 PM
Aye, it was that one. Whoever is advising him wants sacking from their party POV. Awful.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:27:04 PM
Aye, it was that one. Whoever is advising him wants sacking from their party POV. Awful.

Hopefully they won’t be sacked.

It’s the same person who told him to f*** off to Hawaii while the country burned
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:34:17 PM
It’s hard not to say to people “well what the f*** did you expect when you voted Liberal?” I mean, this is what he is, and it hasn’t changed. [I deleted a long rant about gullible fuckwits, because that doesn’t really help].
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:38:04 PM
f***ing goat on a rope :lol:

i've made fun of it a lot over the years but australia might actually be my jam
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:38:20 PM
It’s hard not to say to people “well what the f*** did you expect when you voted Liberal?” I mean, this is what he is, and it hasn’t changed. [I deleted a long rant about gullible fuckwits, because that doesn’t really help].

Yeah I know exactly wha you mean.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: leffe186 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:44:04 PM
Aren’t these the country towns that voted Liberal? Genuine question, and not in any way suggesting that they deserve any of this. It just might be the nail in the coffin of the Liberal Party.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:53:24 PM
Aren’t these the country towns that voted Liberal? Genuine question, and not in any way suggesting that they deserve any of this. It just might be the nail in the coffin of the Liberal Party.

Some will be but if you watch that vid I get the impression they were Labor

Edit: Lib/nats

You look at some of the s**** p*ss head Barnaby has been going on about - greens fault because of conservation etc
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 03:59:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bwWxHnp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CVgRwYW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zz4m7Yw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kbube3u.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/X82KvZ4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0bO1YDK.jpg)







Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:03:14 PM
Now look at Murdochs influence.

Bear in mind this the Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7843333/Scott-Morrison-slammed-tone-deaf-comments-bushfires-cricket.html

The main Murdoch rag

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/scott-morrison-opens-up-scenic-backyard-to-cricketers/news-story/8ae03e1102278cf6cdd261616423b869
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Troll on Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:03:29 PM
Are you in Sydney?  What's it like on the ground?  Those photos look like Sacramento a couple of years ago, and it was so bad you had to wear a mask just to go outside, and all the schools and universities had to close.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:12:32 PM
Are you in Sydney?  What's it like on the ground?  Those photos look like Sacramento a couple of years ago, and it was so bad you had to wear a mask just to go outside, and all the schools and universities had to close.

I’m in Perth, that’s from my head office.

I went out for few hours at night and my eyes were streaming and I woke up with a sore throat.

Quite a few of the Sydney guys kept their kids off school
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:15:20 PM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-01/convoy-of-cars-drive-into-the-lake-to-avoid-fire/11836056

This is what is happening right now.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-01/convoy-of-cars-drive-into-the-lake-to-avoid-fire/11836056
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Troll on Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:17:37 PM
The sore throat thing is horrible, try and stay inside as much as you can.  Mental that it's reaching Perth and New Zealand.  I thought the wind would just carry it in one direction.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:44:36 PM
The sore throat thing is horrible, try and stay inside as much as you can.  Mental that it's reaching Perth and New Zealand.  I thought the wind would just carry it in one direction.

Nah mate. Perth is miles away, it has its own fire problems.

I flew to Sydney as I need to spend time in our office there.

It’s the equivalent of flying Newcastle to London but really Newcastle to Istanbul
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Utterly devastating. My heart goes out to y’all.

In a just world this would end Morrison’s political career but we’ve arrived at the point in Western democracy where nothing f***ing matters and accountability for shameless c***s like him (and Trump) is non-existent.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 05:07:07 PM
Utterly devastating. My heart goes out to y’all.

In a just world this would end Morrison’s political career but we’ve arrived at the point in Western democracy where nothing f***ing matters and accountability for shameless c***s like him (and Trump) is non-existent.

Absolutely, we’ve arrived at the space where the Thatcher/Reagan doctrine of ‘its all about the individual’ is at full steam, with the backing of Murdoch.



Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 2 January 2020, 05:10:41 PM
Btw. This is all focussed on fires atm, but the real killer for the eastern states of Oz is lack of water and how the govt is(not) dealing with it.

Australia will be the first ‘westernised’ country to suffer through global warming
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 05:12:56 PM
Btw. This is all focussed on fires atm, but the real killer for the eastern states of Oz is lack of water and how the govt is(not) dealing with it.

Australia will be the first ‘westernised’ country to suffer through global warming

This was my original point, Australia is destined to be one of the worst countries affected by climate change, yet it's always someone's job to fix it etc.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 05:15:28 PM
we've got to somehow stop old white men being in charge of everything :/
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Kimbo on Thursday 2 January 2020, 05:30:52 PM
Eventually the Chinese will run everything and we’ll live in a green utopia.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Beren on Thursday 2 January 2020, 06:29:27 PM
Utterly devastating. My heart goes out to y’all.

In a just world this would end Morrison’s political career but we’ve arrived at the point in Western democracy where nothing f***ing matters and accountability for shameless c***s like him (and Trump) is non-existent.

Not much else to add :(
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 2 January 2020, 10:24:55 PM
Eventually the Chinese will run everything and we’ll live in a green utopia.

Ironically, the NUMBER ONE excuse trotted out by Scotty from Marketing is the old “no point doing anything because China”.

The fact that Australia produces (only) 1.7% of the world’s emissions justifies inaction, apparently. But we have only 0.33% of the world’s population. So, we’re over-emitting five-fold. And that’s before counting the emissions from Australia’s fossil fuel exports.

But for the real kick in the world’s nuts, look into Kyoto carryover credits. Just astonishing that they would use accounting chicanery rather than act in good faith.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 2 January 2020, 10:30:12 PM
Some fun articles if you’re bored and want to get furious:

Examining the former deputy PM’s conspiracy theory that greenies are to blame for the fires:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/12/is-there-really-a-green-conspiracy-to-stop-bushfire-hazard-reduction

Examining the Energy & Environment minister’s claim that Australia can “be proud” of its response to climate change:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/31/fact-checking-angus-taylor-does-australia-have-a-climate-change-record-to-be-proud-of
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 2 January 2020, 10:41:18 PM
One last one to about Scotty from Marketing being run out of a fire-ravaged town he visited:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/02/scott-morrison-abused-by-bushfire-victims-in-nsw-town-of-cobargo

The highlight - a firey refused to shake Morrison’s hand. Scotty says to the firey’s boss later “I’m sure he’s just tired.” “No,no, he’s lost his house.”
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Friday 3 January 2020, 12:22:24 AM
 :whistle:

?s=21
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 3 January 2020, 06:39:21 AM
Eventually the Chinese will run everything and we’ll live in a green utopia.

uh oh the old white men being oppressed has gone off in the kimbo household, ready the gammonmobile
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:09:18 AM
More record breaking temperatures today

Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: chopey on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:11:34 AM
Its all Sharons fault this
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:15:03 AM
Now look at Murdochs influence.

Bear in mind this the Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7843333/Scott-Morrison-slammed-tone-deaf-comments-bushfires-cricket.html

The main Murdoch rag

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/scott-morrison-opens-up-scenic-backyard-to-cricketers/news-story/8ae03e1102278cf6cdd261616423b869

Worth quoting this to show a comparison:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jan/04/the-australian-murdoch-owned-newspaper-accused-of-downplaying-bushfires-in-favour-of-picnic-races

Rupert says "There's no climate deniers at News Corp"

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/21/news-corps-rupert-murdoch-says-there-are-no-climate-change-deniers-around-here

Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Disco on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:17:41 AM
Oh for the days when you’d get English people who’d moved there pretending on social media that it being 35 degrees wasn’t horrific.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 4 January 2020, 01:09:39 PM
Oh for the days when you’d get English people who’d moved there pretending on social media that it being 35 degrees wasn’t horrific.

Actually 35 is a nice summers temp, just right for the pool :lol:

It’s been cold in Perth again this summer, high 20’s
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 4 January 2020, 01:30:13 PM
Yeah, that old expression "Only mad dogs and Englishmen out in the midday sun" is a complete crock of s****. I've never known a people so utterly incapable of coping with temperatures above 30 degrees.

(Which means, btw, that you are no longer an Englishman in exile, Mr Mouse, but an Australian ;) )
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: newsted on Saturday 4 January 2020, 01:39:23 PM
Yeah, that old expression "Only mad dogs and Englishmen out in the midday sun" is a complete crock of s****.

Not really an old expression tho, a jokey song by Noel Coward tbf.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 4 January 2020, 02:03:24 PM
Have to say I’ve never heard of the song, heard the expression plenty growing up. But Wikipedia tells me you are correct :thup:

Still a crock of s**** ;)
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 4 January 2020, 02:15:47 PM
Yeah, that old expression "Only mad dogs and Englishmen out in the midday sun" is a complete crock of s****. I've never known a people so utterly incapable of coping with temperatures above 30 degrees.

(Which means, btw, that you are no longer an Englishman in exile, Mr Mouse, but an Australian ;) )

Just about :lol: it’s been 11 years. Although sports wise I’ll never change.

Having said that PERTH is a dry heat, I struggle on the east coast with the humidity
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 4 January 2020, 02:19:45 PM
Don’t mention climate change though

https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-australia-wild-weekend-cyclone-fires-heat/2a8ce05b-58d1-4af0-acc4-4022222b47b7?ocid=Social-9News
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 5 January 2020, 12:12:23 AM
So, in the middle of the worst bushfire crisis in the nation's history, Scotty from Marketing has literally produced and released an ad spruiking his response to the crisis. Tin ear or psychopath - you be the judge

Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 January 2020, 09:29:29 AM
Don't worry the Royals are sending "thoughts and prayers" to you all in down under.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50996284

:anguish:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:51:03 PM
Don't worry the Royals are sending "thoughts and prayers" to you all in down under.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50996284

:anguish:

:lol: you’d think people would avoid that saying now.

Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:53:25 PM
Incredible footage of the DC10 in action.

Shame Scotty from marketing rejected other countries air support.

https://youtu.be/nTNCrETxAQo
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 7 January 2020, 06:32:04 PM
To date on the amount of land burnt due to these fires is greater then the size of Ireland.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 9 January 2020, 12:56:58 PM
Scotty from marketing blatantly lies at least three times on this

?s=21
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 9 January 2020, 01:10:03 PM
So, within a week, we’ve had ex-PM Abbott openly climate-change denying on Israeli radio, Craig Kelly eviscerated by Piers f***ing Morgan and “that ignorant weather girl” for denying climate change, and now this.

Not that it will matter a jot.  :rant:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 9 January 2020, 01:52:27 PM
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-has-officially-recorded-its-warmest-driest-year-on-record-bom
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Friday 10 January 2020, 03:27:21 PM
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“We don’t want job-destroying, economy-destroying, economy-wrecking targets and goals, which won’t change the fact that there have been bushfires or anything like that in Australia,” Morrison told Sydney radio, 2GB.

 :whistle:
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 10 January 2020, 06:08:59 PM
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“We don’t want job-destroying, economy-destroying, economy-wrecking targets and goals, which won’t change the fact that there have been bushfires or anything like that in Australia,” Morrison told Sydney radio, 2GB.

 :whistle:

Apart from the fact that clean energy technology will overtake the fossil fuel industry over the next decade.  Not a good economic plan that....
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 10 January 2020, 11:37:37 PM
Was reading a piece that his weird ass religion explains everything - apparently Pentecostals believe Jesus is making his second coming imminently, and everything that happens on earth is God’s plan, so a) climate change is God’s plan and b) it doesn’t matter because the second coming makes long term global damage irrelevant.

Now, I admit I read this at face value because it fits very neatly with my Morrison hate and religion hate. But no matter how true it is, it reinforces my belief that people of faith should not be allowed anywhere near political power.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Saturday 11 January 2020, 02:24:00 AM
Was reading a piece that his weird ass religion explains everything - apparently Pentecostals believe Jesus is making his second coming imminently, and everything that happens on earth is God’s plan, so a) climate change is God’s plan and b) it doesn’t matter because the second coming makes long term global damage irrelevant.

Now, I admit I read this at face value because it fits very neatly with my Morrison hate and religion hate. But no matter how true it is, it reinforces my belief that people of faith should not be allowed anywhere near political power.

Yeah thats pretty close, Pentecostal believers will ascend to heaven while non-believers remain on earth to be punished on the burning planet.
Unbelievable that he hasn’t been questioned on this before now.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 14 January 2020, 06:50:17 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51112322
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 01:52:27 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51112322

Why doesn’t he do something about I then?
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:56:23 PM
Scotty from Marketing is deeply unhappy with the moniker Scotty from Marketing; first used by the brilliant satirical website the Betoota Advocate, but Morrison claims it’s a Labor Party label that other have picked up and run with:

https://www.ladbible.com/news/politics-scott-morrison-isnt-a-fan-of-the-scotty-from-marketing-nickname-20200120?source=lboz

The BA gave him the equally witty title the Nightwatchman after he was brought in to lead the LNP to an election they were widely expected to lose. The fact that Labor Party was led by someone with the electoral appeal of a wet fart meant the Nightwatchman exceeded expectations and evolved into Scotty from Marketing...
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 02:10:24 AM
Scotty from Marketing is deeply unhappy with the moniker Scotty from Marketing; first used by the brilliant satirical website the Betoota Advocate, but Morrison claims it’s a Labor Party label that other have picked up and run with:

https://www.ladbible.com/news/politics-scott-morrison-isnt-a-fan-of-the-scotty-from-marketing-nickname-20200120?source=lboz

The BA gave him the equally witty title the Nightwatchman after he was brought in to lead the LNP to an election they were widely expected to lose. The fact that Labor Party was led by someone with the electoral appeal of a wet fart meant the Nightwatchman exceeded expectations and evolved into Scotty from Marketing...

It was funny to see him get p*ssed off then trot out the but Labor bollocks.

He tried the same with emissions targets and Labor.
Title: Re: The Australia Thread - inmates and visitors alike
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 01:49:37 AM
Behind Trump he’s one of the stupidest aresholes on the planet is Scotty from marketing

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/bushfire-hazard-reduction-as-important-as-emissions-reduction-scott-morrison-says??