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Title: Lee Charnley
Post by: Dave on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:22:40 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/lee-charnley-steps-up-to-lead-role-at-newcastle-9242481.html
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Lee Charnley steps up to lead role at Newcastle
Martin Hardy Sunday 06 April 2014

Lee Charnley is set to become the new managing director at Newcastle United. The current football secretary of the club will fill the position previously occupied by Derek Llambias, who resigned last summer following the unexpected appointment of Joe Kinnear as director of football.

Kinnear’s role, left vacant since his February departure, will not be filled. Charnley is expected to continue to be a key figure in Newcastle’s transfer dealings in the summer.

Probably a step forward.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:23:12 AM
Name sounds like a cheese. 2/10 would not promote.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tachikoma on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:23:57 AM
What's a football secretary?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:24:19 AM
I wonder if he will continue to refuse to do any press now?  Will his former position as Football Secretary be filled?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:26:13 AM
So what's he about then?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:27:55 AM
Sorry if Giggs: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/who-lee-charnley-man-charge-6772955
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:29:25 AM
More silence from those in charge, great.

Given he was part of the transfer brigade that hated spending money let's say I'm sceptical at best.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:31:23 AM
36? f*** me.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:36:00 AM
So basically Lee Charnley reports directly to Ashley.

So unpredictable.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:40:33 AM
The message this gives out is "more of the same."
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Golfmag on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:40:46 AM
He's a good guy.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:42:24 AM
He's a good guy.

Why?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Steggy on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:43:40 AM
He's a good guy.

Give us more
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Golfmag on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:48:24 AM
Sorry I got that COMPLETELY wrong. I was referring to Tony Toward. In the air somewhere between Philadelphia and Jacksonville and being thrown around. Must be affecting my sanity, along with being at SJP yesterday. At Philadelphia airport a couple of hours ago, this American guy serving my food asked which team I supported, I said Newcastle and he said, Aagh, Malcolm MacDonald!!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:49:45 AM
Are you going to Augusta? Lucky prick.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 7 April 2014, 01:02:14 AM
well it can't hurt to actually have someone designated to be in charge of the running of the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: zicomartin on Monday 7 April 2014, 01:05:57 AM
He's bound to google himself so let's have a poll on this thread as to whether he should sack 'Pards'...

Quick sharpish so he doesn't miss it.

please
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: 54 on Monday 7 April 2014, 01:23:00 AM
It sounds like he knows the club and has been around the block in regards to the club, that has to be a good thing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Monday 7 April 2014, 01:54:56 AM
so basically nothing has changed, wasn't he already doing all of this? New title may not mean f*** all.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 7 April 2014, 02:05:58 AM
Where did he come from SD?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Monday 7 April 2014, 02:25:21 AM
Another 'Man from Del Monte'......he likes to say 'Yes'......
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:08:44 AM
Agreed. Charnley out.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:23:51 AM
The message this gives out is "more of the same."
My thoughts exactly , just another spineless , testicleless gimp that follows ashleys every instruction like a badly beaten rednecks wife
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: matta on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:37:43 AM
First google search of him shows a picture with mike and jokin'. No thanks.

(some really disturbing images on that seemingly harmless search)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:28:08 AM
First google search of him shows a picture with mike and jokin'. No thanks.

(some really disturbing images on that seemingly harmless search)

You weren't joking. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:53:07 AM
First google search of him shows a picture with mike and jokin'. No thanks.

(some really disturbing images on that seemingly harmless search)

You weren't joking. :lol:
Curiosity got the better of me  :anguish:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:02:36 AM
Don't see what positive this is.  A step forward would be appointing someone outside to fill the position.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: SteveMc on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:11:46 AM
Depends if

A) he is any good and
B) anyone is brought in to in fill his previous position
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: nufc4eva on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:05:51 AM
Will he actually have the power to do anything like sack Pardew, improve our transfer record etc. Or probably just more of the same.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:15:17 AM
As I see it he has been our MD, our closer to it than anyone else inside the organization, since Llambias left.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KDT on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:21:02 AM
I'd much rather someone from outside the club was appointed, it seems like another attempt at a cheap fix.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Do you know what it makes business sense sometimes to look outside as well, as they bring fresh ideas etc.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:53:57 AM
Pros: He's not Kinnear
Cons: Dodgy Google Search results

Current status: Charnley IN
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:55:31 AM
Just another c*** id imagine.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:57:37 AM
Pros: He's not Kinnear
Cons: Dodgy Google Search results

Current status: Charnley IN

The 5th image doesn't look too bad on my search.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:00:39 AM
5th looks good, 6th :anguish:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:07:44 AM
Just another c*** id imagine.

:thup:

Why make progress when the status quo is just fine.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:29:35 AM
What is his role exactly? I'm sure he does lots of valuable stuff behind the scenes but is he qualified to make the big decisions? We know his predecessor Llambias had very little football knowledge and that's why we ended up with Pardew and Joe Kinnear which is starting to do real harm to the long term growth of the club. When Pardew is inevitably fired, is Charnley qualified to make the call on a genuine high calibre manager?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:36:30 AM
What is his role exactly? I'm sure he does lots of valuable stuff behind the scenes but is he qualified to make the big decisions? We know his predecessor Llambias had very little football knowledge and that's why we ended up with Pardew and Joe Kinnear which is starting to do real harm to the long term growth of the club. When Pardew is inevitably fired, is Charnley qualified to make the call on a genuine high calibre manager?

qualified :yao:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Klaus on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:39:05 AM
That google search  :lol: :scared:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:41:38 AM
What is his role exactly? I'm sure he does lots of valuable stuff behind the scenes but is he qualified to make the big decisions? We know his predecessor Llambias had very little football knowledge and that's why we ended up with Pardew and Joe Kinnear which is starting to do real harm to the long term growth of the club. When Pardew is inevitably fired, is Charnley qualified to make the call on a genuine high calibre manager?

qualified :yao:

I know. The reality is he's the administrative equivalent of Steve Stone.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:02:09 PM
Makes not one shred of difference. Just another one of Ashleys clowns ready to do his dirty work.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:03:26 PM
He's a relative nobody in the football world isn't he?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: tsah on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:11:57 PM
He's a relative nobody in the football world isn't he?

Not even a 'relative' nobody.

Just a nobody.

Just the way Mike likes em...Grateful.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:33:40 PM
If he's gonna be in charge of transfers then he's presumably being promoted on the basis of his excellent contribution to them over the last 12 months.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:45:29 PM
But Dave there hasn't been any incoming transfers.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Monday 7 April 2014, 12:57:51 PM
But Dave there hasn't been any incoming transfers.

I don't think anyone at NUFC is judged on incomings.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: George Bailey on Monday 7 April 2014, 01:01:54 PM
If he's gonna be in charge of transfers then he's presumably being promoted on the basis of his excellent contribution to them over the last 12 months.
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 April 2014, 01:34:12 PM
This guy has made Llambias look competent in the transfer market.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Monday 7 April 2014, 02:13:04 PM
Unless he fires Pardew he's already failed at his job.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 7 April 2014, 02:19:06 PM
First google search of him shows a picture with mike and jokin'. No thanks.

(some really disturbing images on that seemingly harmless search)

You weren't joking. :lol:
Curiosity got the better of me  :anguish:

Spoiler
[close]
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:49:58 PM
http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=3754161

Confirmed. Seems like a bell end
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:51:56 PM
Lot of standard nonsense in that tbh
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:53:38 PM
http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=3754161

Confirmed. Seems like a bell end

Had to stop reading that. It's just the same old babbling s*** they all spew out.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Weyhey. Lets remain the premier league.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Pilko on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:54:18 PM
Please fire Pardew, Lee.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:55:29 PM
http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=3754161

Confirmed. Seems like a bell end

f*** me that's a depressing read  :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:56:09 PM
Please fire Pardew, Lee.

: "together with Alan Pardew and his backroom staff, we will progress the Club, both on and off the field over the coming years."
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:56:44 PM
He can get f***ed. Don't trust a single one of them to do what's best for the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: AlanSkärare on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:58:38 PM
Appalling statement on so many levels.

Quote
"It is also important that we don't over-promise and under-deliver for our supporters, players and staff. False expectations lead to disappointment and frustration."

Aye, you keep doing what you're doing. It's nice not to feel disappointed and frustrated as things stand.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 7 April 2014, 03:59:30 PM
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"I am confident that with our dedicated, hardworking and loyal employees, together with Alan Pardew and his backroom staff, we will progress the Club, both on and off the field over the coming years

:anguish:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KDT on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:00:37 PM
One or two players per year for the first team.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:00:47 PM
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At the beginning of the season all our staff and players were incentivised should we finish in tenth position and above

Certainly helps explained the downed tools.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:02:01 PM
That statement tells you everything that is wrong with this club under Ashley. All about financial stability, i.e. profit.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:02:28 PM
Pound for Pound?

What are we a f***ing football club or a boxing academy?

There was absolutely nothing in that statement to garner hope, enthusiasm or positivity.

Translating it in google gets: We won't spend f*** all, we won't tell anyone f*** all and we'll not charge you any more for the privilege of watching this s****.

f*** off you pack of c***s.

Seriously can't wait until Ashley goes and this is from someone who fully recognises the risk that we could get a Tan or Venkyesque new owner.

There's nothing worse than floating around in the sea of nothingness.

No meaning, no ambition, just no f***ing point.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:05:00 PM
@milesstarforth: The club's statement on Lee Charnley's appointment suggests Alan Pardew retains full backing of the board going into the summer. #nufc

:anguish:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:06:41 PM
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"The Club has never been in such a stable and healthy financial position, which gives us the best possible platform from which to grow.

"I am confident that with our dedicated, hardworking and loyal employees, together with Alan Pardew and his backroom staff, we will progress the Club, both on and off the field over the coming years.

Hope we get beat 4-0 off Stoke on Saturday.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: AlanSkärare on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:06:52 PM
All about reducing the price on football. It's not about winning anymore, it's about getting the quantities of customers to get to SJP and watch whatever is served up.

I want to f***ing vomit. The club is f***ing dead.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: pinkeye on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:09:37 PM
The way we are heading we will finish up 11th (if we are lucky) and none of them will receive their top 10 incentive.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:09:51 PM
@TomBarclay_SUN: New #nufc managing director Lee Charnley: "Our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad"

:anguish:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:11:17 PM
That's gonna be one player every 2 transfer windows. f***ing hell
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Curtained Wasp on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:14:12 PM
http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=3754161

Confirmed. Seems like a bell end

Had to stop reading that. It's just the same old babbling s*** they all spew out.

This.  Ashley writes all of this I am sure.  w*****.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:14:25 PM
A statement of our vision and strategy for the years ahead, and the words "win", "success" and "trophy" are nowhere to be found. Fitting...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:17:34 PM
That statement is absolutely appalling.  Couldn't possibly make the club sound worse.  What an absolute arsehole.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:17:53 PM
@TomBarclay_SUN: New #nufc managing director Lee Charnley: "Our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad"

:anguish:

That'll be easy with the £20m of Mike's own money he will invest each year, Stadium Renaming Money, increased commercial revenueCarroll Money,Cabaye Money, Money from selling land around SJP, lack of money spent over the last twelve months, Premier League New TV Deal.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Big Geordie on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:18:37 PM
@milesstarforth: The club's statement on Lee Charnley's appointment suggests Alan Pardew retains full backing of the board going into the summer. #nufc

:anguish:

There you have it. Hopefully to signal a rush for more season tickets to be cancelled. Those running the club are completely deluded and living in their own f***ing la-la-land. :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: CFlan on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:18:40 PM
Nufc supporters remain on the treadmill of soullessness at the club. Every few weeks they hammer us back into submissiveness. Dispicible c***s
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:18:58 PM
Need several new first team players this summer and the club talks about 1 or 2 per year.

Hello Championship next year lads.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:19:39 PM
Reads the same as the guff given out by the club at those fan forum things. At least they're consistently s***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:20:07 PM
A statement of our vision and strategy for the years ahead, and the words "win", "success" and "trophy" are nowhere to be found. Fitting...

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:20:44 PM
one curiosity to me is Ashley actually going on the board officially, more involved?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:21:05 PM
WOW guys, we exceed the financial fair play rules which only actually make a difference if you're trying to get into a competition we actively want to avoid!  CONGRATULATIONS!

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:22:47 PM
http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=3754161

Confirmed. Seems like a bell end

Had to stop reading that. It's just the same old babbling s*** they all spew out.
This. Depressing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:23:31 PM
@TomBarclay_SUN: New #nufc managing director Lee Charnley: "Our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad"

:anguish:

That'll be easy with the £20m of Mike's own money he will invest each year, Stadium Renaming Money, increased commercial revenueCarroll Money,Cabaye Money, Money from selling land around SJP, lack of money spent over the last twelve months, Premier League New TV Deal.
Gannin doon then.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Teasy on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:24:54 PM
WOW guys, we exceed the financial fair play rules which only actually make a difference if you're trying to get into a competition we actively want to avoid!  CONGRATULATIONS!



The Premier League also have financial fair player regulations which have nothing to do with European competition.

@TomBarclay_SUN: New #nufc managing director Lee Charnley: "Our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad"

:anguish:

What was the question?  Obviously signing 1 to 2 players per season in the future is fine normally, but this coming summer has to be an exception to that, he's mental if he thinks otherwise.

EDIT: Oh its from the actual statement, since you quoted the sun I thought they'd done an interview with him or something.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:25:27 PM
At least we've finally got some honesty from the club.

This statement has confirmed the new MD as a total c***, straight off the bat. :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Matt on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:28:25 PM
"We can't compete with the top six on commercial revenue"

"Commercial revenue is the only thing we can control"

So you are saying that you're s*** at your job then?

Bellend.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:28:50 PM
People need to walk away, man. Defy any fan to convince me they enjoy the games any more, it's abject, has been for months and it's not going to change it's there in writing for all to see.

Each ST holder has a right to renew that's their prerogative but they know exactly what they're signing up for.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:31:12 PM
Some right hyperbole here like. It's an official statement to present the new MD, they're not going to say "Alan Pardew is a useless t*** who we'll sack in a bit".

Yes, things are looking grim but there's no reason cutting your wrists because of this statement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:31:17 PM
People need to walk away, man. Defy any fan to convince me they enjoy the games any more, it's abject, has been for months and it's not going to change it's there in writing for all to see.

Each ST holder has a right to renew that's their prerogative but they know exactly what they're signing up for.
Loads of people in my dad's section are not renewing. Old timers too - those who have been going for over 30 years. The worm has turned.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dr Venkman on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:31:26 PM
People need to walk away, man.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:31:51 PM
Oh dear god, he's a w***** too :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:32:13 PM
People need to walk away, man. Defy any fan to convince me they enjoy the games any more, it's abject, has been for months and it's not going to change it's there in writing for all to see.

Each ST holder has a right to renew that's their prerogative but they know exactly what they're signing up for.

:thup: People need to stop going or this s*** isn't going to change.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:33:40 PM
STOP GOING TO GAMES.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:36:43 PM
Our fans would rather support the regime by spending their hand earned money on season tickets.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Spudil on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:38:24 PM
People need to walk away, man.

Yeah.

Yip but even now getting humiliated every other week everyone still turns up with  a few groans. Win a few crappy games and there will be loads LOVING Pardew again.

You only have to look at our "amazing run" earlier in the season to see just how easy it is to get 90% on-side.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jtm_92 on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:38:30 PM
The perfect statement which highlights our ambition.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:41:43 PM
Some right hyperbole here like. It's an official statement to present the new MD, they're not going to say "Alan Pardew is a useless t*** who we'll sack in a bit".

Yes, things are looking grim but there's no reason cutting your wrists because of this statement.

Rubbish. What we're seeing on the pitch is a direct result of the policies set out by the board of directors, and it's abundantly clear from that statement that there is no ambition whatsoever to make this club challenge for anything above existing in the Premiership. It's not something new of course, but that reads like a BoD statement of every other corporation. Absolutely no understanding of football, fan passion, etc. Hurts more than getting dicked on the pitch every forthnight.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:41:49 PM
Some right hyperbole here like. It's an official statement to present the new MD, they're not going to say "Alan Pardew is a useless t*** who we'll sack in a bit".

Yes, things are looking grim but there's no reason cutting your wrists because of this statement.

Have you read it?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:42:01 PM
WOW guys, we exceed the financial fair play rules which only actually make a difference if you're trying to get into a competition we actively want to avoid!  CONGRATULATIONS!



The Premier League also have financial fair player regulations which have nothing to do with European competition.

He specifically refers to the UEFA rules.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: geordiesteve710 on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:42:55 PM
The way we are heading we will finish up 11th (if we are lucky) and none of them will receive their top 10 incentive.

Good. They don't deserve an incentive.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:43:22 PM
WOW guys, we exceed the financial fair play rules which only actually make a difference if you're trying to get into a competition we actively want to avoid!  CONGRATULATIONS!



The Premier League also have financial fair player regulations which have nothing to do with European competition.

He specifically refers to the UEFA rules.
UEFA rules are also a fair bit stricter than prem rules so make it look better in theory by saying your well in compliance with them
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:44:28 PM
@TomBarclay_SUN: New #nufc managing director Lee Charnley: "Our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad"

:anguish:

That'll be easy with the £20m of Mike's own money he will invest each year, Stadium Renaming Money, increased commercial revenueCarroll Money,Cabaye Money, Money from selling land around SJP, lack of money spent over the last twelve months, Premier League New TV Deal.
Gannin doon then.

If our form since boxing day is anything to go by, probably.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:45:12 PM
Nowt new. We're going nowhere.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: timeEd32 on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:45:41 PM
That's one of the more depressing things I've ever read. The last three words make my blood boil.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jtm_92 on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:45:48 PM
WOW guys, we exceed the financial fair play rules which only actually make a difference if you're trying to get into a competition we actively want to avoid!  CONGRATULATIONS!



The Premier League also have financial fair player regulations which have nothing to do with European competition.

He specifically refers to the UEFA rules.

You could say that it is ironic that charnley puts his attention to Uefa FFP because we as a club have no interest in being in either of the uefa competitions, If he said premier league instead then that would be fine.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Teasy on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:46:02 PM
Just read the statement, couldn't really get less inspiring could you?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Skeletor on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:46:41 PM
He's come up from the ranks. We already knew he was a piece of s***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Walter on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:47:40 PM
"Looking ahead to future seasons, our primary focus will remain the Premier League."
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: AlanSkärare on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:50:32 PM
It's one of the biggest insluts to our intellectual capacity that the Ashley regime has produced.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:51:18 PM
Do all of Ashley's Yes Men have a competition to see how far they can get their tongues up his arse? Or maybe that is the selection criteria? Whatever the answer they are clearly all s*** scared of upsetting their boss.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Skeletor on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:52:51 PM
Do all of Ashley's Yes Men have a competition to see how far they can get their tongues up his arse? Or maybe that is the selection criteria? Whatever the answer they are clearly all s*** scared of upsetting their boss.

You don't get promoted up the ranks by questioning the ridiculousness of Mike Ashley's continued existence.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Teasy on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:52:58 PM
WOW guys, we exceed the financial fair play rules which only actually make a difference if you're trying to get into a competition we actively want to avoid!  CONGRATULATIONS!



The Premier League also have financial fair player regulations which have nothing to do with European competition.

He specifically refers to the UEFA rules.

I see that and its pretty stupid of him to specifically mentions those regulations given their apparent thoughts on the UEFA cup.  Just saying FYI that their are also Premier League FFP that obviously effect us whether we're in Europe or not.  Though they are certainly less stringent than UEFA's rules.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Incognito on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:53:35 PM
I'd sooner see Lee Stewart in the role.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: binnsy on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:54:36 PM
i have agonised for weeks that i have done the right thing not renewing,  i knew it was something in needed to do but after going for 30 years and having a season ticket for 25 yr and over 130 loyalty points it was a real wrench but that statement has proved once and for all that we are going nowhere and i have made the right decision.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:55:09 PM
Not sure what Lee's said wrong there tbh.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:56:21 PM
Not sure what Lee's said wrong there tbh.

I think you'll find all Premier League managing directors say the same thing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Hate the dryness of the statement, but he's just a thoroughly uninspiring promoted money man.

If we get an ambitious director of football to work in tandem with the bloke, great. Could work out really well.






That's not going to happen though, is it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:56:42 PM
"Looking ahead to future seasons, our primary focus will remain the Premier League."
Dat ambition.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:56:50 PM
Some right hyperbole here like. It's an official statement to present the new MD, they're not going to say "Alan Pardew is a useless t*** who we'll sack in a bit".

Yes, things are looking grim but there's no reason cutting your wrists because of this statement.

Rubbish. What we're seeing on the pitch is a direct result of the policies set out by the board of directors, and it's abundantly clear from that statement that there is no ambition whatsoever to make this club challenge for anything above existing in the Premiership. It's not something new of course, but that reads like a BoD statement of every other corporation. Absolutely no understanding of football, fan passion, etc. Hurts more than getting dicked on the pitch every forthnight.

Remember Joe Kinnear? That was a disaster. This just confirms things we already knew.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jtm_92 on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:56:57 PM
does anyone know how much the club has invested into the academy ?, the only thing i can see was wonga investing 1.5 million into the academy but i would not class that as "invested heavily "
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 7 April 2014, 04:57:30 PM
Hate the dryness of the statement, but he's just a thoroughly uninspiring promoted money man.

If we get an ambitious director of football to work in tandem with the bloke, great. Could work out really well.






That's not going to happen though, is it.

An ambitious director of football to buy 1 or 2 players per year and give them to Alan Pardew? Yeah I'm canny sure that won't work.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:02:05 PM
@CaulkinTheTimes: Would always want clubs to communicate with fans, but difficult to read Lee Charnley's #Nufc statement & not feel monumentally depressed.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:05:35 PM
Still pisses me off that they said they wouldn't sell any advertising space because nobody would give them 100million-odd quid for it. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:06:52 PM
He sounds truly inspiring. He was Llambias' understudy, IIRC, which means he should be an improvement on JFK, at least.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:07:41 PM
Hate the dryness of the statement, but he's just a thoroughly uninspiring promoted money man.

If we get an ambitious director of football to work in tandem with the bloke, great. Could work out really well.






That's not going to happen though, is it.

An ambitious director of football to buy 1 or 2 players per year and give them to Alan Pardew? Yeah I'm canny sure that won't work.

An ambitious director of football would be able to advise Charnley that sometimes the safety of the status quo an accountant might crave, is not always 'safe', nor something paying punters can get excited about.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:07:55 PM
"Looking ahead to future seasons, our primary focus will remain the Premier League."

Really building the excitement for the FA Cup next year.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:08:10 PM
They've killed the club. They've actually killed it. Despicable c***s.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:08:33 PM
He's already on my "I want to see him suffer brutally and die" list together with Pardew and Ashley!! That statement..Jesus f***ing christ!

 :rant: :rant: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :'(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: aussiemag on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:10:37 PM
Is there really any point supporting a club whos only ambition is to maintain a healthy bank balance? Im thinking no after reading that, it confirms nothing is going to change any time soon. What's the point in being loyal to the club, when its not the same club you fell in love with?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:11:51 PM
Want the club to be "the best it can be"Eat s***! ..Pound per pund..This club is dead :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:13:10 PM
This just confirms that there's no hope! f***ing depressing. Didn't have much hope before either but at least there was a glimmer of hope.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:14:50 PM
He sounds truly inspiring. He was Llambias' understudy, IIRC, which means he should be an improvement on JFK, at least.

Yes a secretary to a casino manager should be an improvement on a drunk. I wonder who they will hire to run the next big corporate bash at St James? A plumber?

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flartyblartclart on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:17:51 PM
'False expectations lead to disappointment and frustation.'  What f***ing expectations Lee?  We have none any more.  Your w***** of a boss has removed any hope of forward momentum.  What an appalling statement that is on so many levels.  The contempt the owner, board and management show for the supporters of NUFC is f***ing disgraceful.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:19:20 PM
If the statement of one or two players per season is after a major investment and squad revamp this summer then fine.  If no major rebuild then we're are as good as down.

Bleed the f***ers dry of money I say.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Curtained Wasp on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:20:39 PM
He sounds truly inspiring. He was Llambias' understudy, IIRC, which means he should be an improvement on JFK, at least.

Yes a secretary to a casino manager should be an improvement on a drunk. I wonder who they will hire to run the next big corporate bash at St James? A plumber?

Eesa me, Mario!  Where you wanna deese mushroom?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:22:31 PM
At many other clubs around europe they would be f***ing chased out of town afraid of their lives. Without doubt!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:23:06 PM
One of Pardew and Charnley are lying.

Pardew promises a summer rebuild whilst Charley speaks about 1 or 2 players * unless we in relegation scrap come January
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:23:49 PM
At many other clubs around europe they would be f***ing chased out of town afraid of their lives. Without doubt!

Especially in Italy where many a club president has been threatened.

I think Lazios ultras are currently boycotting the club iirc
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:23:58 PM

He sounds truly inspiring. He was Llambias' understudy, IIRC, which means he should be an improvement on JFK, at least.

Yes a secretary to a casino manager should be an improvement on a drunk. I wonder who they will hire to run the next big corporate bash at St James? A plumber?

Eesa me, Mario!  Where you wanna deese mushroom?

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:25:40 PM
Thing is we are all moaning about "1 or 2 players" but we have not even got that in recent times. Kudos to lowering the bar so low we can't even see it anymore.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:31:56 PM
What a f***ing diabolical situation we are in.  Club is completely rotten.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Willow on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:35:59 PM
Weyhey. Lets remain the premier league.

:lol:



f*** sake, we have absolutely zero passionate guys running our club these days, it so sad to see

(http://i.imgur.com/zpewIEP.gif)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:37:34 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:37:40 PM
More managing expectations guff. Looks like another self promoting slimy b****** too
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:41:02 PM
Didn't think things could get worse than they already were. But this f***ing piece of shitcunt statement managed to make it even worse.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: JH on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:43:08 PM
He talks about the league/transfer windows like they aren't changing markets.

You can't possibly plan ahead like Charnley is suggesting "We'll buy 1 or 2 this year, then the same next year...". It just doesn't work like that at all.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:47:24 PM
1/2 players for the first team is fine, as long as it is on top of any outgoings.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:47:26 PM
I like his honesty. It's not great reading in terms of ambition, but at least he's not lying. Nothing was going to change because we appointed him, or someone else, it's the owner that's the issue here, at least this guy seems switched on.

The only thing you can hope for is behind the scenes he's pushing to get rid of Pardew, of course if he is or isn't he'd not say in a statement, neither would he say we've actually got money to spend either or it leaves a door open to being mugged. Again a couple of additions a year signals were after players, but talks of rebuilds only unsettles the current squad, lowers their values and raises the values of potential targets. It's all very sensible talk, suppose loony statements while slagging of ex players and calling our current ones by the wrong name is just more Nufc than this.

I'm going to give him a chance.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:48:55 PM
Appalling appointment.  Appalling statement.  Appalling way to run a football club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:49:27 PM
Die hard!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:50:47 PM
"We don't look at transfer windows in isolation, but rather as a full trading year, and our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad."

Utterly depressing and baffling. One in in the summer, maybe one in in the winter.  I suppose anyone who leaves who they didn't plan on replacing will have their position filled by a reserve team player.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Matt on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:51:52 PM
I'm going to give him a chance.

A chance to do what exactly? Deliver on his strategy of stagnation?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:52:40 PM
1/2 players for the first team is fine, as long as it is on top of any outgoings.

(http://www.southernlife.org.uk/portsmouth_welcome.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: bimpy474 on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:53:00 PM
Same statement from every other year, means f*** all seeing as we've signed no one for 18 months.

If we are unwilling to go above our valuation we simply don't buy, as we've seen. Utterly depressing and predictable, just like out managers football tbh.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jtm_92 on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:58:09 PM
This was the attendance of lazio vs atalanta last month, lazio fans were protesting against president claudio lotito

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73470000/jpg/_73470803_stadioolimpicoone.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 7 April 2014, 05:58:13 PM
Does this "one or two" nonsense mean replacing those that will leave plus "one or two"? If it just "one or two" we will eventually be left with a squad of.... one or two.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:00:26 PM
The bottom line for me is: I don't really care if we only sign 1-2 players a year, if we prioritise the league, if we prioritise a solid economy, as long as we play attractive, entertaining football. In other words; if we were to replace the manager with a good, positive one I wouldn't give a s*** about statements like this one. Basically.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:00:41 PM
I hate this club man
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:01:35 PM

1/2 players for the first team is fine, as long as it is on top of any outgoings.

That would be 1 player in two transfer windows. Nowhere near. We need about 7 as it stands
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:17:54 PM
Quote
and will not accrue debt in order to achieve short-term gains

Can anyone decipher this? What gains?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:19:30 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

I think he's just repeating that the focus is the Premiership (as in being a priority over cups), not simply staying in the Premiership as you seem to have interpreted it.

There is no actual stated target in his flaccid pronouncement, though you'd suspect top 8 next year as it was (ludicrously with hindsight) last season.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:21:16 PM
Any sort of statement doesn't make any difference, as far as I'm concerned. The very fact that Alan Pardew is still here tells you all you need to know about the club's (three blokes') mentality.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:23:22 PM
Quote
and will not accrue debt in order to achieve short-term gains

Can anyone decipher this? What gains?

Pick one;

A) The title. We will not buy Pardew all (ALL) the players (DEBT) to win the title (1 YEAR GAIN).

B) We will not sack Pardew (GAIN) because it will cost us (DEBT).
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:23:49 PM
Quote
and will not accrue debt in order to achieve short-term gains

Can anyone decipher this? What gains?

Winning matches by scoring more goals than the opposition.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:26:53 PM
I'm going to give him a chance.

A chance to do what exactly? Deliver on his strategy of stagnation?

A chance to do his job, work within the limitations that have been set above him and hopefully take the club forward. He's smart enough to know the best way to improve the club on a shoestring budget is get the best out of the players we've got, which means getting rid of the useless c*** of a manager and bringing in someone who can.

I heard before weekend it's a matter of when not if with Pardew and at the latest he'll be gone by the start of June. This news of a new MD strengthens that for me. He'll want to make his mark now he's in charge, I really thought today Pardew would have gone, shame that didn't happen for whatever reason but it's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Chizzletooth on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:28:21 PM

STOP GOING TO GAMES.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:28:37 PM
Quote
and will not accrue debt in order to achieve short-term gains

Can anyone decipher this? What gains?

A season in the Europa League.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:28:41 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:30:29 PM
I'm going to give him a chance.

A chance to do what exactly? Deliver on his strategy of stagnation?

A chance to do his job, work within the limitations that have been set above him and hopefully take the club forward. He's smart enough to know the best way to improve the club on a shoestring budget is get the best out of the players we've got, which means getting rid of the useless c*** of a manager and bringing in someone who can.

I heard before weekend it's a matter of when not if with Pardew and at the latest he'll be gone by the start of June. This news of a new MD strengthens that for me. He'll want to make his mark now he's in charge, I really thought today Pardew would have gone, shame that didn't happen for whatever reason but it's only a matter of time.

Say what now?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:34:04 PM
I'm going to give him a chance.

A chance to do what exactly? Deliver on his strategy of stagnation?

A chance to do his job, work within the limitations that have been set above him and hopefully take the club forward. He's smart enough to know the best way to improve the club on a shoestring budget is get the best out of the players we've got, which means getting rid of the useless c*** of a manager and bringing in someone who can.

I heard before weekend it's a matter of when not if with Pardew and at the latest he'll be gone by the start of June. This news of a new MD strengthens that for me. He'll want to make his mark now he's in charge, I really thought today Pardew would have gone, shame that didn't happen for whatever reason but it's only a matter of time.

Good post TT. While I don't share your optimism regarding Pardew being gone by June, I don't really see this statement as a confirmation of him staying.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:34:27 PM
If there was ever a statement of intent from the club, there it is.

"Advertising Vehicle"



Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:35:10 PM
Different person, more of the same s****. f*** off the lot of them
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:36:15 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jtm_92 on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:38:22 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Especially after ashley getting a £73 million bonus rejected from shareholders.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:39:20 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:40:43 PM
Its really simple,

Maintain status quo on a small budget whilst maximising Sports Direct's image through the Premier League.  Offer the fans massive knock down prices to watch...cos the daft geordies will watch anything.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Cajun on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:40:53 PM
We are the worst club in the league to support, at least those at the bottom try and go for stuff :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jtm_92 on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:42:02 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

"At the beginning of the season all our staff and players were incentivised should we finish in tenth position and above, and our commitment to achieving this will continue right up until the final whistle on 11th May.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:42:23 PM
We are the worst club in the league to support, at least those at the bottom try and go for stuff :(

Yup.

I'd rather the club completey imploded and started again.  At least you'd have something to support and have a sence of achivement if the club was winning promotion. 

I just cant bring myself to support this s***.  Nothing but advertising space.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:43:10 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

"At the beginning of the season all our staff and players were incentivised should we finish in tenth position and above, and our commitment to achieving this will continue right up until the final whistle on 11th May.

Seems like our players and manager have decided they dont want any extra money  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:43:43 PM
What's Stoke's run-in like?

We're finishing 10th. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:45:49 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

I thought you said you read the article. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jtm_92 on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:46:07 PM
What's Stoke's run-in like?

Newcastle (H)
Cardiff (A)
Tottenham (H)
Fulham (H)
West Brom (A)

Could quite easily finish above us
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: cp40 on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:46:49 PM
What's Stoke's run-in like?

Newcastle (H)
Cardiff (A)
Tottenham (H)
Fulham (H)
West Brom (A)

Could quite easily finish above us


I dont care tbh.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:47:10 PM
What's Stoke's run-in like?

We're finishing 10th. :lol:

 Us home
Cardiff away
Spurs home
Fulham home
West Brom Away
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Boy on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:47:42 PM
It doesnt mention what the incentives were for a top ten finish. Is it possible that Pardew's job is on the line without it and the players are wanting him gone? Nope, just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:48:32 PM
Smash us this weekend then beat a broken Cardiff side and they go above us.

Cant see west ham making up the remaing ground tho.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:49:37 PM
I'm absolutely not giving him a chance, f*** him and his rhetoric.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:49:58 PM
I'd f***ing love them to lose their bonus.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:50:23 PM
I'd f***ing love them to lose their bonus.

This was exactly my angle. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:51:03 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

"At the beginning of the season all our staff and players were incentivised should we finish in tenth position and above, and our commitment to achieving this will continue right up until the final whistle on 11th May.

Ah, missed that one. Let's say it really exists. Why offer a bonus? Did they think that a top 10 finish was out of the question? Doesn't really make sense.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:51:58 PM
I'd f***ing love them to lose their bonus.

I dont think they care tbh.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:52:50 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

I thought you said you read the article. :lol:

Hadn't memorised it word by word, my sincerest apologies.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:53:42 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

I thought you said you read the article. :lol:

Hadn't memorised it word by word, my sincerest apologies.

:lol: Memorised it word by word, Jesus.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:55:13 PM
If 10th is the minimum then here's hoping we get 11th. If 10th is minimum then that suggests heads will roll.

:shifty:

Our only hope is ashley arrives at the traning ground in his helicopter and picks everyone up for a laugh. THEN CRASHES THE COPTER INTO THE NORTH SEA, where the survivors are mauled by a one in million chance rogue white shark.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:55:52 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

"At the beginning of the season all our staff and players were incentivised should we finish in tenth position and above, and our commitment to achieving this will continue right up until the final whistle on 11th May.

Ah, missed that one. Let's say it really exists. Why offer a bonus? Did they think that a top 10 finish was out of the question? Doesn't really make sense.

Not sure what's difficult to understand - we finished perilously close to getting relegated last year, which meant we had to spend money on transfers.  Never again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 April 2014, 06:57:40 PM
I'd f***ing love them to lose their bonus.

This, none of them deserve a f***ing bonus.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:03:57 PM
@MsiDouglas: Charnley statement tells u everything about why he got the job. Unstintingly loyal & sticks to party line. Let's see how summer goes.. #nufc
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:03:58 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.
A top 10 finish is this seasons target (which might not be achieved given the free fall we have been in since Boxing Day). I wonder what next seasons target will be? Without suitable replacements for Cabaye and Remy next seasons realistic target could well be don't get relegated from the Premiership.

I liked this from NUFC.com: -

Quote
"Looking ahead to future seasons, our primary focus will remain the Premier League (so don't bother coming to watch us in any cup ties)"

I bet NUFC are hoping we get drawn away from home in both cups.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Boy on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:04:45 PM
It will be interesting to see what level is acceptable next season in the eyes of the board. Will 10th be the aim year on year or what?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: cp40 on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:05:40 PM
It will be interesting to see what level is acceptable next season in the eyes of the board. Will 10th be the aim year on year or what?


yes
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: JH on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:06:58 PM
It will be interesting to see what level is acceptable next season in the eyes of the board. Will 10th be the aim year on year or what?

Wasn't there something from the club along these lines a few months ago?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: JH on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:07:15 PM
@MsiDouglas: Charnley statement tells u everything about why he got the job. Unstintingly loyal & sticks to party line. Let's see how summer goes.. #nufc

They're so not getting unbanned anytime soon :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:07:40 PM
Reading about abit, people still seem to think a massive rebuild is on the cards in the summer.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:07:48 PM
It will be interesting to see what level is acceptable next season in the eyes of the board. Will 10th be the aim year on year or what?


yes

No. Last seasons target was different for a start.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Spark on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:08:33 PM
I honestly think we need about 5 players just to stand still. Can't see us avoiding relegation with this "one or two players a year" policy.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:08:53 PM
So the main target for NUFC is to not be relegated from the Premiership? The ambition! Not getting relegated from the Premiership is the same target the 3 teams promoted from the Championship have.

No. As repeated in the statement, the target for this season was/is a top 10 finish.

I'm sure they'd be over the moon at having to pay bonuses out to the staff and players.

Not sure what you're saying, do you know for a fact there's a bonus?

"At the beginning of the season all our staff and players were incentivised should we finish in tenth position and above, and our commitment to achieving this will continue right up until the final whistle on 11th May.

Ah, missed that one. Let's say it really exists. Why offer a bonus? Did they think that a top 10 finish was out of the question? Doesn't really make sense.

Not sure what's difficult to understand - we finished perilously close to getting relegated last year, which meant we had to spend money on transfers.  Never again.

Point taken  :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:10:10 PM
I honestly think we need about 5 players just to stand still. Can't see us avoiding relegation with this "one or two players a year" policy.

As nufc point out, they dont actully mention "purchase"

Hello more loan signings.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: JH on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:10:45 PM
"While at the moment we can't compete with the commercial strength of the top six, whose income from sponsorship and advertising deals dwarfs other clubs in the Premier League, we will work hard to drive up our commercial income to give ourselves the best possible chance of competing on the field with those wealthier clubs."

This s*** again.

Are Everton really that much more of an attractive prospect than us to advertisers? I really don't think so.

(Well they are in terms of how the club is run, but if both were run properly, we'd at least match them.)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:12:26 PM
Achieving their "target" without having spent anything since January 2013 is ideal, that's how they'll be looking at it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:12:34 PM
"While at the moment we can't compete with the commercial strength of the top six, whose income from sponsorship and advertising deals dwarfs other clubs in the Premier League, we will work hard to drive up our commercial income to give ourselves the best possible chance of competing on the field with those wealthier clubs."

This s*** again.

Are Everton really that much more of an attractive prospect than us to advertisers? I really don't think so.

(Well they are in terms of how the club is run, but if both were run properly, we'd at least match them.)

There's little point in trying to analyse it in such detail. It's just pure lies, designed to sway the gullible.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:12:59 PM
"While at the moment we can't compete with the commercial strength of the top six, whose income from sponsorship and advertising deals dwarfs other clubs in the Premier League, we will work hard to drive up our commercial income to give ourselves the best possible chance of competing on the field with those wealthier clubs."

This s*** again.

Are Everton really that much more of an attractive prospect than us to advertisers? I really don't think so.

(Well they are in terms of how the club is run, but if both were run properly, we'd at least match them.)

I think that is just spaff to keep the fans with their heads in the sand happy.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:39:01 PM
@GrahamtRuddick: Mike Ashley plot thickens - he is selling £225m of shares in Sports Direct, Goldman Sachs handling placing

Not a clue what it means like
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:40:02 PM
Hate this guy before he's even had a chance to do anything. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:40:11 PM
@GrahamtRuddick: Mike Ashley plot thickens - he is selling £225m of shares in Sports Direct, Goldman Sachs handling placing

Not a clue what it means like

Rangers money?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:40:50 PM
House of Fraser iirc.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:41:46 PM
House of Fraser iirc.

Ooops aye I forgot about that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:42:24 PM
Hate this guy before he's even had a chance to do anything. :lol:

That's because he'll do nothing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Curtained Wasp on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:43:27 PM
Quote
and will not accrue debt in order to achieve short-term gains

Can anyone decipher this? What gains?

"My main focus and passion is keeping Master Ashley's ring gleaming 24/7"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:44:19 PM
Spending spree imminent.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 07:51:19 PM
Spending spree imminent.

Aye, £225m but only on 1-2 players.

Messi and Ronaldo?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:06:17 PM
With this statement from Charnley any fans that attends matches next season are contributing to the destruction of Newcastle United football club. We are now nothing more than Sports Direct United and our history and tradition was put on pause when Ashley took over and will restart again when he leaves. A person that puts money towards this regime is just feeding a pig .............that pig needs to be starved to death ...............lets just stay away. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:11:54 PM
With this statement from Charnley any fans that attends matches next season are contributing to the destruction of Newcastle United football club. We are now nothing more than Sports Direct United and our history and tradition was put on pause when Ashley took over and will restart again when he leaves. A person that puts money towards this regime is just feeding a pig .............that pig needs to be starved to death ...............lets just stay away.

The f*** have you got against pigs?! Pigs are awesome.



(http://kristinaeichorn.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/pig-race.jpg)

Pigs today (do not starve)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:13:09 PM
A pig would eat you as soon as look at ya
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: HawK on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:19:19 PM
Still don't get why people go to the matches, genuinely bemuses me.
Either you want some entertainment.. masochism aside, not an option.
Or you support the Club. Well, if you want your club to be YOUR club again, the only option is not to turn up and force a change. Short term pain, long term gain.

Why is it this simple and yet there's still gates of 40k giving money to Mike Ashley? Beggars belief.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:24:20 PM
Still don't get why people go to the matches, genuinely bemuses me.
Either you want some entertainment.. masochism aside, not an option.
Or you support the Club. Well, if you want your club to be YOUR club again, the only option is not to turn up and force a change. Short term pain, long term gain.

Why is it this simple and yet there's still gates of 40k giving money to Mike Ashley? Beggars belief.

It's the social thing I think. People (generally speaking) like the idea of a few pints before/after whilst going to the match for the afternoon, even if the actual 90 minutes is s*** the social side of things is a bit of a pull.

If people based their decision to renew or not entirely on the football then we'd have gates of less than 10,000 imo. It's f***ing rank.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:26:31 PM
It's the thick and thin 12th man romanticism you see in adverts when the reality is you're just being shat on an laughed at
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: EthiGeordie on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:30:47 PM
Why giving the guy hard time when he is honest and say 1 or 2 player? you lot want to be lied and told a whole  set of changes now and be disappointed later?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:30:54 PM
It's the thick and thin 12th man romanticism you see in adverts when the reality is you're just being shat on an laughed at

It's habit and routine too. People who have had a ticket for years have just slipped into the habit, understandably, of just renewing automatically without giving a second's thought to it. "I've always gone so why should I stop now?" type mentality.

If people enjoy games and want to continue going then that's up to them totally. I've made my decision.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:32:51 PM
Why giving the guy hard time when he is honest and say 1 or 2 player? you lot want to be lied and told a whole  set of changes now and be disappointed later?

If you are on a wind up ...........f*** off


If your not ........................f*** off
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Curtained Wasp on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:36:05 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:36:37 PM
Why giving the guy hard time when he is honest and say 1 or 2 player? you lot want to be lied and told a whole  set of changes now and be disappointed later?
No one's mad at honesty just the complete and utter lack of ambition.

Just because they're honest about that doesn't mean you have to accept it or that it forgives the reality of what they're being honest about. Bit like those c***s who go around laughing "I'm a c*** but at least I'm honest about it" well good for you sunshine, it's no excuse or free pass.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:37:33 PM

A pig would eat you as soon as look at ya

:lol: that's random, sociable animals actually
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:42:33 PM

A pig would eat you as soon as look at ya

:lol: that's random, sociable animals actually
blame guy ritchie
(http://i.imgur.com/OgqgWpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 7 April 2014, 08:55:19 PM
A pig would eat you as soon as look at ya

Only if you persist in trying to starve it to death. You're a monster! :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:09:09 PM
Every game and every single utterance from the club justifies me throwing the towel in after this season.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:12:31 PM
A pig would eat you as soon as look at ya

Only if you persist in trying to starve it to death. You're a monster! :lol:

Your love of pigs is both beautiful and horrifying ............I on the other hand would find nothing but joy if Ashley and Pardew were eating by big fat pink pigs
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LV on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:30:06 PM
@GrahamtRuddick: Mike Ashley plot thickens - he is selling £225m of shares in Sports Direct, Goldman Sachs handling placing

Not a clue what it means like

Grand national losses and Greggs bill.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Sifu on Monday 7 April 2014, 09:37:39 PM
This news is about as exciting as Father Stone off Father Ted.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:02:31 PM
I don't doubt that statement is 100% accurate from Charnley but it's also as insipid as hell, really really demoralising tbh.
Without treading over old ground, our entire existence is basis on "value for money" and nothing more.
Ashley has taken a top quality brand, cheapened it beyond all recognition by ruthlessly carving out all the good bits and replacing them with substandard replacements, making it considerably cheaper and manages to turn a profit into the bargain.

It's classic Ashley tbf, nobody should be in any doubt.

He's f***ing killed the club I love and it's as depressing as f***  :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:08:40 PM
Charnely's been associated with this club for some 15 odd years; surely he's seen better managers walk through the halls...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:10:36 PM
Charnely's been associated with this club for some 15 odd years; surely he's seen better managers walk through the halls...

he's been promoted, gotten a pay rise probably - as far as he's concerned, life is good.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mattoon on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:10:43 PM
What an absolute farce of a statement from a farce of a club. 1 or 2 players wouldn't cover our shortage of strikers, never mind what we're short on in the first team. Not to mention the number of first team players that will want out in the summer, the ones out of contract and the ones that can't cut it.

As if the Pardew fiasco wasn't bad enough in isolation his shortcomings are only magnified by the extreme ineptitude from the top!? I give up.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Cajun on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:15:56 PM
Charnely's been associated with this club for some 15 odd years; surely he's seen better managers walk through the halls...

This is what I don't understand, how the f*** has he been here for 15 years? Isn't he 36? Has he slowly progressed from ball boy to steward to tea lady to club secretary to Managing Director?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:37:43 PM
You'd think a man whos fairly young and had any professional pride or connection to a club for 15 years would show some f***ing sanity. Money talks, I guess, Mike is probably paying him a hefty penny to do a job then.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:41:59 PM
he's not a Geordie, think he's from blackpool. has a young family. probably couldn't give a s*** as long as he's got a job. just another yes man glad of a decent paycheque.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Monday 7 April 2014, 10:58:12 PM
You'd think a man whos fairly young and had any professional pride or connection to a club for 15 years would show some f***ing sanity. Money talks, I guess, Mike is probably paying him a hefty penny to do a job then.

To be fair, I guess if a Billionaire wanted you to take the top job in one of his business, we'd all be hard pressed to turn it down like.
The remit is financial prudence, so that's the brief he's working to.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 7 April 2014, 11:14:54 PM
He looks like someone you'd see being carted off by Magaluf coppers on a Channel 5 reality show, just about the level of classy gent for Ashley's inner circle.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Monday 7 April 2014, 11:17:49 PM
@GrahamtRuddick: Mike Ashley plot thickens - he is selling £225m of shares in Sports Direct, Goldman Sachs handling placing

Not a clue what it means like

Grand national losses and Greggs bill.

And he only put a tenner on the national.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Curtained Wasp on Monday 7 April 2014, 11:34:33 PM
This morning Lee was a relatively unknown part of the back room staff at St James's Park.

This evening, he's been catapulted to a household complete and utter w*****.   Football, eh?

:lol: 

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 12:58:48 AM
Why is everyone having a go at him? Let's give him an actual chance to do something with the club, I.E. being in decent commercial revenue, and players.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 01:00:26 AM

Why is everyone having a go at him? Let's give him an actualy chance to do something with the club, I.E. being in decent commercial revenue, and players.

Mackem
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Curtained Wasp on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 01:03:33 AM
Why is everyone having a go at him? Let's give him an actualy chance to do something with the club, I.E. being in decent commercial revenue, and players.

Wtf has Internet Explorer got to do with anything?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 01:03:38 AM
Why is everyone having a go at him? Let's give him an actualy chance to do something with the club, I.E. being in decent commercial revenue, and players.

(http://i.imgur.com/Af4BHXb.gif)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 01:11:39 AM
Why is everyone having a go at him? Let's give him an actual chance to do something with the club, I.E. being in decent commercial revenue, and players.

Promote the guy within who's been part of a regime that's done f*** all....does it need to be said even more clearly. Until he proves otherwise, track record is all we can go by and he's been part of the same old s***. By all means, I'd be happy if he proves us wrong.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Atticus on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 01:16:52 AM
Why is everyone having a go at him? Let's give him an actualy chance to do something with the club, I.E. being in decent commercial revenue, and players.

(http://i.imgur.com/Af4BHXb.gif)

What a f***ing gif that is :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 01:22:48 AM
1 or 2 top quality first team players a season would be fine if they went out and bought 5-6 this summer to rectify their past mistakes in previous windows

or indeed 1 to 2 this summer and sack pardew for example

relegation battle it is then

f*** this clown already, he reeks of duplicity
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shayno on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 02:22:50 AM
Very lacklustre opening address, but the response has been a bit overly negative imo.

If things are going well then 1 signing a window (plus players below the first team, like Lee mentioned) isn't that bad.

However things are clearly not going well and we need a huge clean out this summer to put us on a sustainably positive direction, which we can't do under Pards and our football staff.

Unfortunate, but we need a big outlay and a huge shake up of our football department on and off the field this summer to get us back on track.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 02:32:11 AM
Why is anyone surprised by all this...?

The guy is a bought and paid for Ashley stooge and he will faithfully carry out what is laughably known as 'club policy' as dictated from his boss.

Nothing has changed at the club and nothing WILL change under this regime - anyone looking for crumbs of comfort from this appointment is living in cuckoo-land.....like a high percentage of the fan base.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 03:12:33 AM
His statement is basically "We're trying, don't get too excited about anything, ever."

Already there, Lee.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: timeEd32 on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 04:00:11 AM
"While at the moment we can't compete with the commercial strength of the top six, whose income from sponsorship and advertising deals dwarfs other clubs in the Premier League, we will work hard to drive up our commercial income to give ourselves the best possible chance of competing on the field with those wealthier clubs."

This s*** again.

Are Everton really that much more of an attractive prospect than us to advertisers? I really don't think so.

(Well they are in terms of how the club is run, but if both were run properly, we'd at least match them.)

Think he clearly means top 6 in revenue, so City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd, and Spurs.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 07:09:29 AM
Why is anyone surprised by all this...?

The guy is a bought and paid for Ashley stooge and he will faithfully carry out what is laughably known as 'club policy' as dictated from his boss.

Nothing has changed at the club and nothing WILL change under this regime - anyone looking for crumbs of comfort from this appointment is living in cuckoo-land.....like a high percentage of the fan base.

Not at all defending the Ashley hierarchy or owt, but hasn't Charnley been at NUFC for some time before Ashley even took over? or am I missing something? I guess he could have quit if he didn't like the way things were being done, or Ashley would have sacked him if he was in any way contrary to his methods or something. Is Charnley a geordie?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 08:33:30 AM
Very lacklustre opening address, but the response has been a bit overly negative imo.

If things are going well then 1 signing a window (plus players below the first team, like Lee mentioned) isn't that bad.

They just make it up as they go along man - soon enough people will forget the 1 or 2 players quote, same as they forgot we were following the Villa model, or the Arsenal model...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 08:44:33 AM

Very lacklustre opening address, but the response has been a bit overly negative imo.

If things are going well then 1 signing a window (plus players below the first team, like Lee mentioned) isn't that bad.

They just make it up as they go along man - soon enough people will forget the 1 or 2 players quote, same as they forgot we were following the Villa model, or the Arsenal model...

Rebuilding job in the summer was Pardews line wasn't it? Doesn't tally with yesterday. Also it's not one or two per window it's per year so that's two transfer windows. It's a ludicrous policy and one that will see us in a s*** load if trouble
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:17:07 AM
One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:21:28 AM
Considering players retiring, being sold and finishing loan spells amounts to 1 or 2 players per transfer window over the course of the year, how exactly is that level of investment 'strengthening'? Particularly when we don't buy players based on what we need for the squad, but what's on offer in the bargain bin and may be worth more in a year's time?

Can you imagine being a manager turning up for the interview after Pardew goes? When you're used to hearing enthusiastic pitches about a club's vision, their plan for how to progress and improve, challenge for things above their station in 2, 5, 10 years time? And you're told your job is to try and tread water in the premier league with the smallest squad possible by avoiding extra games in the cup or Europe.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:21:55 AM
One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:26:19 AM

One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

Why does it have to be extreme? Could easily have been "our aim is to break the top four at newcastle united and to compete on all fronts. We will achieve this through investment in the first team squad and at youth team level and ensure that newcastle united is where it deserves to be in English football"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:27:07 AM
Those one or two players will need to be really good then, and good = expensive. Oh hang on a minute, that's not what we want.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:29:01 AM
One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

This myth still floating about then.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:30:41 AM
One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

Standard press officer bollocks is to big up the club and try and make out you've got some ambition and hopes.  I don't think any press officer outside of Newcastle has ever come out and said 'we don't give a f*** and we're not gonna invest anything over the bare minimum for survival so stick it up yer hoop'.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:30:59 AM
All I've been reading about is a 'list of players leaving St James's at the end of the season". If we sign "1 or 2" then we'll, quite literally, die.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:33:25 AM
One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

This myth still floating about then.

tbf we did sign a few players that slipped under the radar until their confirmation/MA wore their name on his shirt. i'm so sick of the hullabaloo that surrounded the Remy/Gomis/Grenier/Cabella sagas. Prefer to do them the way we did Tiote, Cisse, Anita(ish) etc..
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 11:21:04 AM
If it's 'adding' one or two new players to the squad per season going forward, after this summer I'd say that's fine, but I can't see how this can apply to this coming window when there'll be about 5 or 6 going out the door.  For every one we lose we must at least sign a replacement.  Surely even they must be aware that would leave the squad severely short, when it's already severely lacking in depth as of now!

Perhaps this is just poor wording of the statement?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 06:15:51 PM
Considering players retiring, being sold and finishing loan spells amounts to 1 or 2 players per transfer window over the course of the year, how exactly is that level of investment 'strengthening'? Particularly when we don't buy players based on what we need for the squad, but what's on offer in the bargain bin and may be worth more in a year's time?

Can you imagine being a manager turning up for the interview after Pardew goes? When you're used to hearing enthusiastic pitches about a club's vision, their plan for how to progress and improve, challenge for things above their station in 2, 5, 10 years time? And you're told your job is to try and tread water in the premier league with the smallest squad possible by avoiding extra games in the cup or Europe.

worse still, can you imagine being a decent international player with ambition who has to choose between the likes of us and Southampton or similar.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:56:49 PM

One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

Why does it have to be extreme? Could easily have been "our aim is to break the top four at newcastle united and to compete on all fronts. We will achieve this through investment in the first team squad and at youth team level and ensure that newcastle united is where it deserves to be in English football"
:snod: If only SanToon wrote our press releases
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 09:58:28 PM


One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

Why does it have to be extreme? Could easily have been "our aim is to break the top four at newcastle united and to compete on all fronts. We will achieve this through investment in the first team squad and at youth team level and ensure that newcastle united is where it deserves to be in English football"
:snod: If only SanToon wrote our press releases

I'd have to see pardew a lot though. It wouldn't be worth it
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 10:09:10 PM


One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

Why does it have to be extreme? Could easily have been "our aim is to break the top four at newcastle united and to compete on all fronts. We will achieve this through investment in the first team squad and at youth team level and ensure that newcastle united is where it deserves to be in English football"
:snod: If only SanToon wrote our press releases

I'd have to see pardew a lot though. It wouldn't be worth it

Put in your contract you're allowed to break his face if he opens his mouth within 5 yards of you.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 8 April 2014, 11:39:31 PM



One player per window considering the current state of the squad is pathetic.  The fact they're even comfortable coming out and saying this is an indication of how far we have fallen, the absolute lack of ambition and the apathy surrounding the club.

Again. Only playing devil's advocate. But what should they be saying? "We's gon sign alllll the players!"?

I hope to f*** that it's just standard press officer bollocks, and we start doing our business on the quiet again, and bring in much needed reinforcements.

I am an idiot though so take nothing from the straws I clutch at.

Why does it have to be extreme? Could easily have been "our aim is to break the top four at newcastle united and to compete on all fronts. We will achieve this through investment in the first team squad and at youth team level and ensure that newcastle united is where it deserves to be in English football"
:snod: If only SanToon wrote our press releases

I'd have to see pardew a lot though. It wouldn't be worth it

Put in your contract you're allowed to break his face if he opens his mouth within 5 yards of you.

I'll take a zero hour contract if I could do that
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:36:47 PM
What do we think then, done alright? still a w*****?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Twinport53 on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:39:27 PM
f***ing hero. All is forgotten in my book.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:40:12 PM
Further cements the fact you can't believe anything the club say, even when the result is positive i.e. them ditching the plan of bringing in no more than the "one or two" players and filling in the rest of the holes with reserves.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:41:56 PM
f***ing hero. All is forgotten in my book.

If he can get Ashley to release funds actually financed by the club without selling key players then he's a hero.

Until then he's doing his job, a far cry from the likes of Kinnear mind.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:48:17 PM
Further cements the fact you can't believe anything the club say, even when the result is positive i.e. them ditching the plan of bringing in no more than the "one or two" players and filling in the rest of the holes with reserves.

Like I said when he was appointed talk of rebuilding only unsettles the team and drives up prices.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:48:33 PM
He's "doing a good job" because he's been allowed to buy players. Llambo "did a good job" when he was allowed to buy players too.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: nemtizz on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:48:53 PM
Well done for doing your job.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:49:10 PM
He's "doing a good job" because he's been allowed to buy players. Llambo "did a good job" when he was allowed to buy players too.

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:49:34 PM
Fair play to the mysterious Mr Charnley.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:50:06 PM
He's actually capable of doing deals so at least he's competent
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: JS on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:51:46 PM
Fair play? Good job? So we've actually organised a seemingly half decent pre season and spent some money the club itself has actually generated, and all is swept under the rug? :lol:

Congrats on doing the bare minimum
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Friday 1 August 2014, 04:55:10 PM
Fair play? Good job? So we've actually organised a seemingly half decent pre season and spent some money the club itself has actually generated, and all is swept under the rug? :lol:

Congrats on doing the bare minimum
Getting 7 signings done is decent work imo.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:01:34 PM
Fair play? Good job? So we've actually organised a seemingly half decent pre season and spent some money the club itself has actually generated, and all is swept under the rug? :lol:

Congrats on doing the bare minimum

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:05:01 PM
He's been given £30million to spend and looks to have signed plenty of exciting sounding players, so personally he's done well.

It's Ashley who has done the bare minimum yet again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Incognito on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:05:17 PM
He's a f***ing patsy like the rest of them. He's got the owner to splash out what he dragged in earlier in the year. Nobody has any intention of real investment, which the £130 mill or whatever the 2 years TV money add up to, would provide. So we're still a shoestring budget club despite having a hefty wadge from Sky, and people want to be happy about that?

f*** that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:06:48 PM
To be fair you can only judge him on this window in terms of his recruitment, there's no no dening that he has done well.

He's got some promising players on the cheap and done it all relatively early in the window. I'm all for hating the regime, but the guy has done well in his current post so far.

He just needs to convince Ashley to get rid of Pardew and maybe sell up!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:07:07 PM
Competent enough w***** as a suggestion.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:07:54 PM
Good grief, the club had to invest to avoid being relegated. No wonder we're stuck with this lot when some people are so unbelievably easy to please.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:08:51 PM
Well, we are judging him on his predecessor JFK, so a turd on a stick would've been an improvement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:10:12 PM
Good grief, the club had to invest to avoid being relegated. No wonder we're stuck with this lot when some people are so unbelievably easy to please.

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:13:58 PM
Although he is no doubt complicit in proceedings (as he would lose his job if not) surely he has done quite well to sign 7 players? I can't remember a window when we signed so many before. Charnley is not the problem - it is his boss who has seemingly only given him funds from player sales to reinvest.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:14:24 PM
Giving him credit also stems from this idea that football transfers are so incredibly difficult to conduct. They're really not, as evidenced by the amount that are done every year, by every club in the world. The concept of giving some background money man kudos for something really tough didn't exist until this mob rocked up.

It's a line they peddle when they're not at risk of impending doom and therefore don't want to spend any money, and some people are daft enough to fall for it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:15:17 PM
We had to invest for sure, but I still can't believe that if Kinnear was still involved we would have signed all the players we have. For that I am simply relieved.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:15:37 PM
It's nowt to crow about that's plain. They will will though.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:17:47 PM
We had to invest for sure, but I still can't believe that if Kinnear was still involved we would have signed all the players we have. For that I am simply relieved.


Me too. Chucky could be anything but we have made good signings with Cabella, De Jong and Janmaat. JFK would no doubt have ballsed these up.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:18:31 PM
Giving him credit also stems from this idea that football transfers are so incredibly difficult to conduct. They're really not, as evidenced by the amount that are done every year, by every club in the world. The concept of giving some background money man kudos for something really tough didn't exist until this mob rocked up.

It's a line they peddle when they're not at risk of impending doom and therefore don't want to spend any money, and some people are daft enough to fall for it.

We are signing good players by the sounds of it. I doubt many would collectively swap our new signings for those from most other clubs this summer.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:22:43 PM
Giving him credit also stems from this idea that football transfers are so incredibly difficult to conduct. They're really not, as evidenced by the amount that are done every year, by every club in the world. The concept of giving some background money man kudos for something really tough didn't exist until this mob rocked up.

It's a line they peddle when they're not at risk of impending doom and therefore don't want to spend any money, and some people are daft enough to fall for it.

We are signing good players by the sounds of it. I doubt many would collectively swap our new signings for those from most other clubs this summer.

Most other clubs hadn't neglected their squad like we had.

This is why they find it so easy to sell players in January, because after five months getting battered every week, they can sign in summer instead and everyone queues up to w*** them off, like they've done us a favour.

Like giving credit to someone for doing a big shop after they've let the kids starve for a month.

On the "good players" point, aye ok, let's see how good they are after a year with the c***. If they're anything like Moussa Sissoko, most people will say they're s***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:25:53 PM
Giving him credit also stems from this idea that football transfers are so incredibly difficult to conduct. They're really not, as evidenced by the amount that are done every year, by every club in the world. The concept of giving some background money man kudos for something really tough didn't exist until this mob rocked up.

It's a line they peddle when they're not at risk of impending doom and therefore don't want to spend any money, and some people are daft enough to fall for it.

We are signing good players by the sounds of it. I doubt many would collectively swap our new signings for those from most other clubs this summer.

Most other clubs hadn't neglected their squad like we had.

This is why they find it so easy to sell players in January, because after five months getting battered every week, they can sign in summer instead and everyone queues up to w*** them off, like they've done us a favour.

Like giving credit to someone for doing a big shop after they've let the kids starve for a month.

On the "good players" point, aye ok, let's see how good they are after a year with the c***. If they're anything like Moussa Sissoko, most people will say they're s***.

 :lol:

It's definitely a messed up situation.

I'm just relieved, because even though we had to buy this summer. I still didn't necessarily trust them to.

Definitely not a cause for celebrating them that's for sure.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:28:58 PM
Giving him credit also stems from this idea that football transfers are so incredibly difficult to conduct. They're really not, as evidenced by the amount that are done every year, by every club in the world. The concept of giving some background money man kudos for something really tough didn't exist until this mob rocked up.

It's a line they peddle when they're not at risk of impending doom and therefore don't want to spend any money, and some people are daft enough to fall for it.

We are signing good players by the sounds of it. I doubt many would collectively swap our new signings for those from most other clubs this summer.

Most other clubs hadn't neglected their squad like we had.

This is why they find it so easy to sell players in January, because after five months getting battered every week, they can sign in summer instead and everyone queues up to w*** them off, like they've done us a favour.

Like giving credit to someone doing a big shop after they've let the kids starve for a month.

On the "good players" point, aye ok, let's see how good they are after a year with the c***. If they're anything like Moussa Sissoko, most people will say they're s***.

All this is about Ashley and Pardew though. The person we're talking about is the one who goes in and gets the best price he can for our targets based on the finances allocated.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:31:06 PM
Newcastle Online, no spark of optimism left unquenched.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Anderson on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:31:11 PM
Like giving credit to someone for doing a big shop after they've let the kids starve for a month.

:lol: :thup: Nailed it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:39:00 PM
As none of us have any idea what the f*** he's actually done on a day to day basis since joining the club, I fail to see how we can pass judgement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:42:22 PM
As none of us have any idea what the f*** he's actually done on a day to day basis since joining the club, I fail to see how we can pass judgement.

I haven't got a clue what my wife does on a daily basis, I still know she's a s*** wife.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Anderson on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:44:10 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 1 August 2014, 05:47:43 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 1 August 2014, 06:00:04 PM
We actually signed a replacement before selling Debuchy, and have brought 7 in so far that all have potential. Its a good start and no matter what you think about the f***ers at least we are trying to fix our attacking issues. We need a few more bit the squad is looking decent with a few young players coming in, although Pardcunt will ruin them all
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 1 August 2014, 06:00:33 PM
As none of us have any idea what the f*** he's actually done on a day to day basis since joining the club, I fail to see how we can pass judgement.

I haven't got a clue what my wife does on a daily basis, I still know she's a s*** wife.
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Friday 1 August 2014, 06:06:00 PM
So we're to applaud a guy whose only remit was to be better and more sensical as a general human being than JFK because he succeeded in doing so? I really think the tea lady would have done a better job than JFK.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Friday 1 August 2014, 06:57:18 PM
I don't commend people for doing what they are supposed to do. It's his job to run the club and get deals done. He's got some deals done, cool. He still has a s*** ton of work to do to repair any faith we have in the club. He needs to get a new sponsor who pays the going rate, convince Mike Ashley to actually spend the money this club makes, he needs to negotiate a better kit deal, he needs to keep players here who are good, he needs to not just sell players for s*** fees. He has a lot to do. f***ing applauding someone for doing what they are supposed to do is small time mentality.

If he personally worked on getting Pardew sacked, brought in a new top manager, fixed the s*** PR, convinced Mike Ashley to spend some f***ing cash, got us a new kit deal or a sponsor worthy of being associated with Newcastle United then sure, I'll tell him job well done.

He's not done the above yet so not getting an ounce of credit from me.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:00:02 PM
Can I shock you? I agree with Wullie.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:03:02 PM
It's actually canny tragi-hilarious how we're clearly so keen to not spend the money we need to on a top striker. Obviously club policy to balance the books on transfer fees, the rest just disappears into a black hole called "profit". Next set of accounts should cause riots in the streets, but they won't.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:07:03 PM
I don't commend people for doing what they are supposed to do. It's his job to run the club and get deals done. He's got some deals done, cool. He still has a s*** ton of work to do to repair any faith we have in the club. He needs to get a new sponsor who pays the going rate, convince Mike Ashley to actually spend the money this club makes, he needs to negotiate a better kit deal, he needs to keep players here who are good, he needs to not just sell players for s*** fees. He has a lot to do. f***ing applauding someone for doing what they are supposed to do is small time mentality.

If he personally worked on getting Pardew sacked, brought in a new top manager, fixed the s*** PR, convinced Mike Ashley to spend some f***ing cash, got us a new kit deal or a sponsor worthy of being associated with Newcastle United then sure, I'll tell him job well done.

He's not done the above yet so not getting an ounce of credit from me.

It's not his job to run the club. His job is to do what Ashley tells him because he isn't there to do it himself. Everything is set up the way he wants it so it'll not change, no matter who's the MD.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:11:33 PM
I don't commend people for doing what they are supposed to do. It's his job to run the club and get deals done. He's got some deals done, cool. He still has a s*** ton of work to do to repair any faith we have in the club. He needs to get a new sponsor who pays the going rate, convince Mike Ashley to actually spend the money this club makes, he needs to negotiate a better kit deal, he needs to keep players here who are good, he needs to not just sell players for s*** fees. He has a lot to do. f***ing applauding someone for doing what they are supposed to do is small time mentality.

If he personally worked on getting Pardew sacked, brought in a new top manager, fixed the s*** PR, convinced Mike Ashley to spend some f***ing cash, got us a new kit deal or a sponsor worthy of being associated with Newcastle United then sure, I'll tell him job well done.

He's not done the above yet so not getting an ounce of credit from me.

It's not his job to run the club. His job is to do what Ashley tells him because he isn't there to do it himself. Everything is set up the way he wants it so it'll not change, no matter who's the MD.

Hes the MD man, its his job to run the club. What the hell do you think he's supposed to do? So if nothing will change, which I understand it won't - he'll never get any credit or plaudits from me. I'm not in the business of high-fiving someone who isn't doing the things required to make this club respectable again.

I'm hard to please, I guess.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:12:46 PM
I doubt his job description from Ashley mentions anything about making the club respectable again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:19:18 PM
For all the s*** Llambeezy was - he was actually making a worthwhile attempt to right some past wrongs despite being a bit of a f***ing prick.  Charnley needs to do more than just sign some players for cheap. If he has any ounce to him and he's supposedly been part of this club for an eternity, he should be looking at bettering the club, and figuring out ways to convince MA to right some old wrongs too. Will he ultimately fail at that? Probably. But if you're the Chairman / MD of a club, then you should be doing more than just signing a shed load of players to fill a bare minimum squad anyway.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:19:50 PM
I don't commend people for doing what they are supposed to do. It's his job to run the club and get deals done. He's got some deals done, cool. He still has a s*** ton of work to do to repair any faith we have in the club. He needs to get a new sponsor who pays the going rate, convince Mike Ashley to actually spend the money this club makes, he needs to negotiate a better kit deal, he needs to keep players here who are good, he needs to not just sell players for s*** fees. He has a lot to do. f***ing applauding someone for doing what they are supposed to do is small time mentality.

If he personally worked on getting Pardew sacked, brought in a new top manager, fixed the s*** PR, convinced Mike Ashley to spend some f***ing cash, got us a new kit deal or a sponsor worthy of being associated with Newcastle United then sure, I'll tell him job well done.

He's not done the above yet so not getting an ounce of credit from me.

It's not his job to run the club. His job is to do what Ashley tells him because he isn't there to do it himself. Everything is set up the way he wants it so it'll not change, no matter who's the MD.

Hes the MD man, its his job to run the club. What the hell do you think he's supposed to do? So if nothing will change, which I understand it won't - he'll never get any credit or plaudits from me. I'm not in the business of high-fiving someone who isn't doing the things required to make this club respectable again.

I'm hard to please, I guess.

He runs the club in name only. He has the same decision making power as Llambias and Kinnear had, which is zero. NUFC is a dictatorship and has been since our relegation when Ashley started to lose money.

Ashley decides transfer budget, Carr decides on players, Charnley gets the best deal he can for them with the money available, Pardew makes new players look handicapped. It's really as simple as that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:20:32 PM
I doubt his job description from Ashley mentions anything about making the club respectable again.

:lol: Yep, it might even be quite the opposite, while staying up.

Always agreeing with you these days.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:21:43 PM
I doubt his job description from Ashley mentions anything about making the club respectable again.

:lol: Yep, it might even be quite the opposite, while staying up.

Always agreeing with you these days.

SCUM.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:22:42 PM
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: B-more Mag on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:32:00 PM
Don't really give a s*** about Charnley. Am glad my job performance isn't critiqued by thousands of people who are personally invested in how well I do my job.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 1 August 2014, 07:47:58 PM
Well I think something feels different about the way he is doing things, agree it's only the start but will only ever be able to work within ashleys constraints
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: northshieldsmag on Friday 1 August 2014, 11:11:14 PM
does anybody know this bloke ? How do we know he's hopeless ?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Teasy on Friday 1 August 2014, 11:13:42 PM
Does anyone think he's hopeless, certainly doesn't seem hopeless to me.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Friday 1 August 2014, 11:15:39 PM
What would people have done differently in his position? (bar sack Pardew - lets say that isn't his call)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: colinmk on Friday 1 August 2014, 11:16:20 PM
As none of us have any idea what the f*** he's actually done on a day to day basis since joining the club, I fail to see how we can pass judgement.

I haven't got a clue what my wife does on a daily basis, I still know she's a s*** wife.

 :lol: Are you ready to carry on Bimpy's hard work Mick?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Friday 1 August 2014, 11:27:55 PM
"It is a real honour to be confirmed as Managing Director," he said.

"I have been with the Club for almost 15 years and have seen a great many changes in my time here.

"The Club has never been in such a stable and healthy financial position, which gives us the best possible platform from which to grow.

"I am confident that with our dedicated, hardworking and loyal employees, together with Alan Pardew and his backroom staff, we will progress the Club, both on and off the field over the coming years.

"Our immediate priority of course is to finish this season as strongly as possible. Our minimum target for this campaign was a top ten finish, but I can assure our supporters that everyone at Newcastle United will do their utmost to ensure the Club finishes in the highest league position it can.

"At the beginning of the season all our staff and players were incentivised should we finish in tenth position and above, and our commitment to achieving this will continue right up until the final whistle on 11th May.

"To their credit, the players, led by the captain, agreed to this incentive scheme despite our 16th place finish last season.

"Looking ahead to future seasons, our primary focus will remain the Premier League.

"Our preparations for the summer transfer window have already begun of course, and our challenge is to make sure we spend the funds we have available in a careful and considered way in order to ensure that we get the maximum benefit from every pound we invest in the squad.

"We will continue to operate in a financially responsible manner and live within our means. This Club is financially strong and there is money to spend if the deal is right and we are confident a player can add quality to the squad.

"That said, we will not pay over the odds or make knee-jerk decisions. Every player we sign represents a major investment and mistakes are costly which is why we will continue to be prudent in our transfer dealings. This is the reality of a well-run football club like ours.

"We can be proud that we already meet, and in fact exceed, the requirements of UEFA's Financial Fair Play regulations and in our latest set of published accounts we recorded a profit for our third consecutive year.

"We will continue to manage our finances in this sustainable manner and will not accrue debt in order to achieve short-term gains.

"It is also important that we don't over-promise and under-deliver for our supporters, players and staff. False expectations lead to disappointment and frustration, hence why we will keep our transfer business confidential and will not be drawn into commenting on the media speculation and rumour that exists in this digital world.

"As a board we will continue to make the final decisions on all player transfers. Clearly, however, the manager and his team have a very significant involvement in such decisions and will be instrumental in making recommendations in relation to the squad.

"Our transfer policy and strategy is very clear and will remain unchanged. We will focus on identifying and recruiting young players whose best years are ahead of them, which in nearly all cases means players in their early to mid-20s and not beyond.

"We don't look at transfer windows in isolation, but rather as a full trading year, and our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad.

"In addition, we aim to strengthen the squad underneath the first team in order to make sure we have a strong group of players pushing our regular first team for a starting place each week. This is essential to bring out the best in everyone and provide an important element of continuity to the squad for the longer term.

"To achieve that it is crucial that we have a youth development strategy that is producing home grown talent who can develop and feed into the system, thereby contributing to the depth within our squad.

"Our Academy's Category One status gives us an excellent platform for maximising the potential of the region's young footballing talent and providing the best possible opportunities for local youngsters.

"We have invested heavily in our Academy to achieve Category One status and have made significant improvements in terms of staffing, infrastructure and facilities. Our aim is to be the best Academy in the region by a considerable distance, ensuring that the most talented local players end up at Newcastle United, not elsewhere.

"This is why it is important that we grow and strengthen our links with the local community. A strong relationship between the football club and the region is of great mutual benefit and it is something we are committed to.

"Some fantastic work is already undertaken by the Newcastle United Foundation, as well as by our Academy staff, reaching out to local boys clubs, engaging with schools and community groups and providing soccer school coaching programmes around the region.

"The Club has long been focused on keeping football affordable for our supporters and that will remain a priority for us.

"Our average attendance for league games so far this season has been more than 50,000, making us the third best supported club in England. We want to see St James' Park full throughout the season and we will continue to operate a ticketing policy and pricing structure that keeps Newcastle United one of the most affordable clubs in the Premier League, encouraging family attendance and rewarding our most loyal supporters with long-term price guarantees.

"We are also committed to our current strategy in relation to communication between the Club and its supporters. At the beginning of the season we launched a new Fans Forum, with members representing our diverse fanbase. It has been an open, honest and productive forum and it will continue to be our primary means of direct supporter communication and engagement.

"The commercial side of our business will also be an important priority for us moving forward. While at the moment we can't compete with the commercial strength of the top six, whose income from sponsorship and advertising deals dwarfs other clubs in the Premier League, we will work hard to drive up our commercial income to give ourselves the best possible chance of competing on the field with those wealthier clubs.

"Of our three core income streams - broadcast, matchday and commercial - it is only our commercial income that we are able to affect to any great degree, especially given our commitment to keeping ticket prices affordable for our fans.

"We have made great strides in this respect recently, having secured the most lucrative sponsorship deal in the Club's history, with Wonga.

"We are delighted to have them as a partner from a commercial perspective but also because of their desire to work closely with our supporters and in our local community.

"There is however still a lot of work to be done to ensure we are maximising every commercial opportunity available to us. Our plans to host the stadium's first music concert since 2007 this summer, together with our participation in a high profile pre-season tournament this August in Germany, are evidence of the type of commercial opportunities we are pursuing.

"The extra revenue we are able to generate from commercial deals translates ultimately to the amount of money we have available to invest in the Club.

"We will look, where possible, to use this revenue to invest not just in the squad, but into improving other areas of the business, including the stadium and its facilities, the Academy, the first team Training Centre and more.

"Supporters will be aware that we have recently announced plans to build a new multi-million-pound state-of-the-art training complex which we hope will be completed in early 2016.

"This is our vision and strategy for the years ahead. The purpose of this statement is to communicate with our supporters in an open and transparent manner and we hope that it provides a clear outline of our intentions.

"We all want to see Newcastle United improve, but we are convinced that the best route to achieving this is to do so sustainably, building each season without risking the financial health and stability of the Club.

"I can assure supporters that the board and everyone associated with the Club aim to make Newcastle United the best it can be, pound for pound."

from April. His words.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Elma on Saturday 2 August 2014, 12:41:00 AM
does anybody know this bloke ? How do we know he's hopeless ?

I don't know him but I know others at the club who work with him. Ultimately I'm happier it's him there than Llambias or Kinnear as he has a greater connection with the club and no historic connection with Ashley. He's always going to tow the party line in the press though.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Saturday 2 August 2014, 03:07:42 AM
I don't commend people for doing what they are supposed to do. It's his job to run the club and get deals done. He's got some deals done, cool. He still has a s*** ton of work to do to repair any faith we have in the club. He needs to get a new sponsor who pays the going rate, convince Mike Ashley to actually spend the money this club makes, he needs to negotiate a better kit deal, he needs to keep players here who are good, he needs to not just sell players for s*** fees. He has a lot to do. f***ing applauding someone for doing what they are supposed to do is small time mentality.

If he personally worked on getting Pardew sacked, brought in a new top manager, fixed the s*** PR, convinced Mike Ashley to spend some f***ing cash, got us a new kit deal or a sponsor worthy of being associated with Newcastle United then sure, I'll tell him job well done.

He's not done the above yet so not getting an ounce of credit from me.

It's not his job to run the club. His job is to do what Ashley tells him because he isn't there to do it himself. Everything is set up the way he wants it so it'll not change, no matter who's the MD.

Hes the MD man, its his job to run the club. What the hell do you think he's supposed to do? So if nothing will change, which I understand it won't - he'll never get any credit or plaudits from me. I'm not in the business of high-fiving someone who isn't doing the things required to make this club respectable again.

I'm hard to please, I guess.

He runs the club in name only. He has the same decision making power as Llambias and Kinnear had, which is zero. NUFC is a dictatorship and has been since our relegation when Ashley started to lose money.

Ashley decides transfer budget, Carr decides on players, Charnley gets the best deal he can for them with the money available, Pardew makes new players look handicapped. It's really as simple as that.
Mainly this - Charnley is just a puppet for Ashley, as are all employed at SJP.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ally on Saturday 2 August 2014, 07:35:40 AM
Charnley clearly communicates Ashley's message, but the fact he's worked here 15 years gives a bit of confidence he actually cares about the club. If he doesn't then he'd have got less time for murder!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 3 August 2014, 10:41:19 AM
he is completely an Ashley puppet. however unlike the rest of them he is calm and professional with a degree of respect for himself and for others and doesn't embarrass the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:25:29 AM
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Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:29:59 AM
Deserves a banner tbh. Has revolutionised the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:35:13 AM
Why are people so easily pleased? A big thumbs up, purely for not being Joe Kinnear ffs. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:36:42 AM
Why are people so easily pleased? A big thumbs up, purely for not being Joe Kinnear ffs. :lol:

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:39:06 AM
It's frightening.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: AlanSkärare on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:39:09 AM
A guy who's job is to sign players manages to actually sign players and people celebrate him?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:42:32 AM
This could work out. All the happiness regarding Charnley, is essentially people getting excited about the signings, and the idea that the team is now in good shape. Pardew will have nowhere to hide once he starts playing strikers out wide and wingers at full back, and we get a healthy tonking.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:44:46 AM
The virtual desperation by some fans to believe everything at SJP is now rosy is almost certainly fuelled by their desire to see justification for their retention of season tickets, despite all the evidence against....the club still has a proven failure(sacked by all previous employers)as manager, they have not spent any more than they raked in from sales and apart from the fact that the players coming in are all raw to the PL apart from Colback, there are glaring deficiencies at CB and CF.
The jury is well and truly out on the new season until at least 6 games have been played and if we are struggling after that, the fall of inflated expectations will be something to behold and instead of asking Pardew for a wave, his 'fans' will be waving at him...with 2 fingers only.

We shall see.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:45:17 AM
Since all we can judge Charnley on is the players that come in, it's fairly easy to argue he's done a good job. It doesn't mean he's a magnificent human or the regime in general isn't s***, but it is what it is. Most impartial observers think we've had a good window.

It's his job obviously, and he's doing no more than he should be, but even so someone who does their job must deserve a decent rating.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:46:18 AM
Yup, the situation is ripe for Pardew to be hounded out by the mob. Especially if we pick up right where we left off last season.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:47:00 AM
Since all we can judge Charnley on is the players that come in, it's fairly easy to argue he's done a good job. It doesn't mean he's a magnificent human or the regime in general isn't s***, but it is what it is. Most impartial observers think we've had a good window.

It's his job obviously, and he's doing no more than he should be, but even so someone who does their job must deserve a decent rating.

He was in charge last season of running the club, why didn't we sign any players then?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:49:31 AM
Since all we can judge Charnley on is the players that come in, it's fairly easy to argue he's done a good job. It doesn't mean he's a magnificent human or the regime in general isn't s***, but it is what it is. Most impartial observers think we've had a good window.

It's his job obviously, and he's doing no more than he should be, but even so someone who does their job must deserve a decent rating.

He was in charge last season of running the club, why didn't we sign any players then?

I don't know. Maybe his own incompetence, maybe Kinnear, maybe lack of funds from Ashley, maybe all of those. I think it's understandable that people  might judge his performance more favourably now the signings are arriving.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:49:58 AM
Since all we can judge Charnley on is the players that come in, it's fairly easy to argue he's done a good job. It doesn't mean he's a magnificent human or the regime in general isn't s***, but it is what it is. Most impartial observers think we've had a good window.

It's his job obviously, and he's doing no more than he should be, but even so someone who does their job must deserve a decent rating.

He's done the bare minimum considering the disgusting form for the second half of last season, the state of the manager and the players that have been sold, let go or been frozen out of the existing squad. We're still gambling massively in at least one key area, as per usual. And of course we've no idea how these new players will actually perform in the Premier League.

The real test is investing when the club isn't at risk of going backwards. It's too early to tell if he'll oversee that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:49:59 AM
They have not spent any more than they raked in from sales

NUFC net spend since we sold Enrique is £37m.

Not suggesting £12m a season should be the extent of our ambition, but it's not the profiteering many seem to think is ongoing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:50:39 AM
They have not spent any more than they raked in from sales

NUFC net spend since we sold Enrique is £37m.

Not suggesting £12m a season should be the extent of our ambition, but it's not the profiteering many seem to think is ongoing.

What about the 35m we got before than though?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:51:16 AM
"charmley"

(http://i.imgur.com/NvjRdt2.gif)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Since all we can judge Charnley on is the players that come in, it's fairly easy to argue he's done a good job. It doesn't mean he's a magnificent human or the regime in general isn't s***, but it is what it is. Most impartial observers think we've had a good window.

It's his job obviously, and he's doing no more than he should be, but even so someone who does their job must deserve a decent rating.

He's done the bare minimum considering the disgusting form for the second half of last season, the state of the manager and the players that have been sold, let go or been frozen out of the existing squad. We're still gambling massively in at least one key area, as per usual. And of course we've no idea how these new players will actually perform in the Premier League.

The real test is investing when the club isn't at risk of going backwards. It's too early to tell if he'll oversee that.

I agree to a certain extent. I wouldn't say he's doing the bare minimum, for me the bare minimum would have been the summer when we only signed Lee Bowyer, or shifting Santon to RB and playing Dummett every week instead of signing a quality replacement. Stuff like that.

I'm not saying I'm totally satisfied with our squad or we shouldn't be looking for more transfers, I was just responding to how people are judging Charnley's performance.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 14 August 2014, 10:57:05 AM
How many points did we get without Cabaye and/or Remy? 3? In about ten games or so?

Of course it's been the bare minimum, in fact since they were our two best players and neither has been replaced with proven quality, you could argue it's not even been that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Deckard 13 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:02:52 AM
I'll be desperately disappointed if some discontent is not shown on Sunday. I just hope that all this new season optimism doesn't distract people from the same problems that havent just went away in 3 months.

If we can just have the Cardiff game from now until pardew leaves please.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:03:36 AM
It could have been, and was generally expected to be, a lot worse. So IMO it isn't the bare minimum. Just saying, it doesn't mean we don't have weaknesses and I wouldn't like more players.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:05:02 AM
As soon as we go 2-0 down it will start kicking off. Particularly when Pardew starts switching formations to stem the tide, after the first 5 mins, in response to the two goals.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:08:33 AM
I'll be desperately disappointed if some discontent is not shown on Sunday. I just hope that all this new season optimism doesn't distract people from the same problems that havent just went away in 3 months.

If we can just have the Cardiff game from now until pardew leaves please.

Doubt the £5 a ticket crowd are going to kick up much of a fuss in replacing the angry walkouts from Cardiff who've not renewed and vowed to never go back.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:14:07 AM
They have not spent any more than they raked in from sales

NUFC net spend since we sold Enrique is £37m.

Not suggesting £12m a season should be the extent of our ambition, but it's not the profiteering many seem to think is ongoing.

What about the 35m we got before than though?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:21:23 AM
They have not spent any more than they raked in from sales

NUFC net spend since we sold Enrique is £37m.

Not suggesting £12m a season should be the extent of our ambition, but it's not the profiteering many seem to think is ongoing.


What about the 35m we got before than though?

Also does that figure account for the £2.5m we've recieved for the Forster transfer?

If not, those two fee take us into cash positive.

It seems to me that the policy is to spend all transfer fees recieved and bank the other revenue income streams. Thus making a profit.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Big Geordie on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:22:48 AM
The virtual desperation by some fans to believe everything at SJP is now rosy is almost certainly fuelled by their desire to see justification for their retention of season tickets, despite all the evidence against....the club still has a proven failure(sacked by all previous employers)as manager, they have not spent any more than they raked in from sales and apart from the fact that the players coming in are all raw to the PL apart from Colback, there are glaring deficiencies at CB and CF.
The jury is well and truly out on the new season until at least 6 games have been played and if we are struggling after that, the fall of inflated expectations will be something to behold and instead of asking Pardew for a wave, his 'fans' will be waving at him...with 2 fingers only.

We shall see.

Hard to disagree with any of that. If we don't start well, it won't take long for the supporters to turn. For those old enough - remember the optimism we had at the start of 1988/89? :D
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:27:16 AM
Well done on not being Joe Kinnear. Lets all have a sexy party. Ridiculous man. This is what it's come to, celebrating not being absolutely horrific at your job.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:29:17 AM
They have not spent any more than they raked in from sales

NUFC net spend since we sold Enrique is £37m.

Not suggesting £12m a season should be the extent of our ambition, but it's not the profiteering many seem to think is ongoing.

Genuinely loling at the selected cut off point for your net spend. Incredible.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:35:24 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:36:18 AM
They have not spent any more than they raked in from sales

NUFC net spend since we sold Enrique is £37m.

Not suggesting £12m a season should be the extent of our ambition, but it's not the profiteering many seem to think is ongoing.

What about the 35m we got before than though?

Make that £70m with the other £35m we got for Zoggy, Shay, Martins, Duff, Beye and Bassong.

My point was to draw a line under the miserly Pre-Europa approach and look at the level of spendthriftery since.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:43:32 AM
Sorry mate, it was comic genius. "If you cut off the point where we recieved a 35 million deal from 1 player then the club has a net spend of 35 million over the proceeding 3 years!"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:50:01 AM
Sorry mate, it was comic genius. "If you cut off the point where we recieved a 35 million deal from 1 player then the club has a net spend of 35 million over the proceeding four years!"

 :lol:

You all know what was meant....

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2i16cn.jpg)

On a moving average of 10 you can see the change from a steep drop which made us a selling club to a consistent increase which suggests we're investing more than we receive, albeit at a lesser gradient.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Thursday 14 August 2014, 11:59:10 AM
Sorry mate, it was comic genius. "If you cut off the point where we recieved a 35 million deal from 1 player then the club has a net spend of 35 million over the proceeding 3 years!"

:lol: If you only start counting after we sold Cabaye we're positively spunking money all ower the shop
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:00:44 PM
Sorry mate, it was comic genius. "If you cut off the point where we recieved a 35 million deal from 1 player then the club has a net spend of 35 million over the proceeding four years!"

 :lol:

You all know what was meant....

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2i16cn.jpg)

On a moving average of 10 you can see the change from a steep drop which made us a selling club to a consistent increase which suggests we're investing more than we receive, albeit at a lesser gradient.

I'd argue that it's not a deliberate strategy and more a consequence of the assets being devalued by the management and coaching.

Pardew was desperately trying to invite bids for Tiote two years ago. What's he worth now? Most of the players we got cheap or at least at reasonable prices hoping to see their value rise (MYM, HBA, Sissoko, Santon, Cisse, Anita...), all these players are either worth less than we paid or not worth the risk of selling for a very small profit when they'll need replacing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:01:28 PM
No, the test is when that line creeps above zero again.  I would suggest we'll see a point of inflection there and the gradient will once again turn negative.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:03:01 PM
Possibly

That's the only reason I thought Ashley might sack Pardew...

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When action is taken it will be Ashley's investments on the pitch that force his hand.  With the sale of Cabaye the club no longer have any player they could sell at any significant profit.  That fact will worry Mike far more than our abject performances, consistent drubbings, flat lining points total, open top buses or season ticket sales.

http://nufc-ashlies.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/ashley-owes-himself-manager-better-than.html
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:03:47 PM
I'm not starting a debate on this topic really, but it never makes sense to me that we focus on net spending on transfers without the rest of the club's finances... as if transfer spending is it's own self-contained thing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:06:03 PM
No, the test is when that line creeps above zero again.  I would suggest we'll see a point of inflection there and the gradient will once again turn negative.

Perhaps

In a little over 1000 days we sold almost a full team of notable players...

Milner
N'zogbia
Given
Martins
Duff
Beye
Bassong
Carroll
Nolan
Enrique

In the same period since we've sold Ba, Cabaye and Debuchy.

I'm cautious about criticising for what they did rather than what they're doing.  It might only be for the reason Wullie mentioned but it's going in a better direction.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:07:57 PM
I'm not starting a debate on this topic really, but it never makes sense to me that we focus on net spending on transfers without the rest of the club's finances... as if transfer spending is it's own self-contained thing.

It's been suggested that the tranfer policy is incomings must be paid for by outgoings.  Any other income will be used for servicing debt and a rainy day fund if we're relegation threatened come January.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:08:01 PM
We've actually crept off the bottom of the "last 5 years net transfer spend" table this summer:

http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html

Although if Tiote does go we'll be right back down there.

Look at the state of West Ham!

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:08:29 PM
No major events that might have prompted the sale of a large number of players?  Earthquake maybe?  Nuclear War?  Dammit, I just can't think of anything that may have happened around the time that the likes of Bassong were sold that might have almost forced the club to sell them.

Plus, what about, Tavernier, Perch, Best, Forster?  Not to mention the s**** we couldn't sell who saw out their contracts.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:10:35 PM
We've actually crept off the bottom of the "last 5 years net transfer spend" table this summer:

http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html

Although if Tiote does go we'll be right back down there.

Look at the state of West Ham!
Soutampton shoot into bottom 3 based on this summers outgoings alone!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:13:43 PM
No major events that might have prompted the sale of a large number of players?  Earthquake maybe?  Nuclear War?  Dammit, I just can't think of anything that may have happened around the time that the likes of Bassong were sold that might have almost forced the club to sell them.

Exactly, perhaps we're less of a selling club than those times (and accrued debts) suggested.

Though 3 of them went before relegation was a danger.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:17:09 PM
Sorry mate, it was comic genius. "If you cut off the point where we recieved a 35 million deal from 1 player then the club has a net spend of 35 million over the proceeding four years!"

 :lol:

You all know what was meant....

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2i16cn.jpg)

On a moving average of 10 you can see the change from a steep drop which made us a selling club to a consistent increase which suggests we're investing more than we receive, albeit at a lesser gradient.


Best graph ever 10/10 well done
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:24:31 PM
We only like to sell for serious profit because we get so upset at the cost of replacing after factoring in signing on fees etc.

We haven't got anyone worth anything now, other than Krul. If you want to use your graphs (that fooled you last season) to convince yourself that that is no longer the approach, that's up to you. But it is.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Crayola Kid on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:39:21 PM
I'm not starting a debate on this topic really, but it never makes sense to me that we focus on net spending on transfers without the rest of the club's finances... as if transfer spending is it's own self-contained thing.

It's been suggested that the tranfer policy is incomings must be paid for by outgoings.  Any other income will be used for servicing debt and a rainy day fund if we're relegation threatened come January.

Happy Face, as someone who pulls an enormous amount of detail from the financial side of how the club is run, can you not factor in some of the cash lost during a transfer, when looking for a net figure over a period of time?
I mean, the agent must be paid for, the player takes a cut, a ten million pound transfer can't net a club ten million pounds, can it?  I think of the movement of money in these deals as being like the movement of water in a game on 'It's A Knockout', spilling out everywhere.
This isn't to say NUFC have spent more than the net amount, but all clubs, because money leaks out every time a player is bought or sold, that's why agents like to tout players around, and why certain agents move certain players as often as possible (or try to at least).

Can you put a figure on it?  Sure it will vary, but say it was a ten million pound sale - can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the selling club will bank?
I know clubs have lots of costs, and some people will say that these payments should be lumped in with wages etc, but for me they are solely brought around by the transfer happening and so should come off the net figure when discussing transfer business over a set period.

Ten million pound sale, what do you say? 8 mil in the bank? 7? 9.5?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:40:14 PM
I like that Happy Face changes the style of every single one of his graphs and charts; you need a branding/style guide for your work, man. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:43:36 PM
I'LL DO THIS ONE WIV LAYZAZ!!!!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:45:23 PM
"Excel is Art, like"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:46:01 PM
I'm not starting a debate on this topic really, but it never makes sense to me that we focus on net spending on transfers without the rest of the club's finances... as if transfer spending is it's own self-contained thing.

It's been suggested that the tranfer policy is incomings must be paid for by outgoings.  Any other income will be used for servicing debt and a rainy day fund if we're relegation threatened come January.

Happy Face, as someone who pulls an enormous amount of detail from the financial side of how the club is run, can you not factor in some of the cash lost during a transfer, when looking for a net figure over a period of time?
I mean, the agent must be paid for, the player takes a cut, a ten million pound transfer can't net a club ten million pounds, can it?  I think of the movement of money in these deals as being like the movement of water in a game on 'It's A Knockout', spilling out everywhere.
This isn't to say NUFC have spent more than the net amount, but all clubs, because money leaks out every time a player is bought or sold, that's why agents like to tout players around, and why certain agents move certain players as often as possible (or try to at least).

Can you put a figure on it?  Sure it will vary, but say it was a ten million pound sale - can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the selling club will bank?
I know clubs have lots of costs, and some people will say that these payments should be lumped in with wages etc, but for me they are solely brought around by the transfer happening and so should come off the net figure when discussing transfer business over a set period.

Ten million pound sale, what do you say? 8 mil in the bank? 7? 9.5?

i just whack in the amounts reported when a sale happens.  There are no reports of agents fees or owt so not something I could reasonably include and source.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:50:07 PM
There isn't a single way to figure out the net cost of transfer Crayola - unless there is a Deloitte or similar independent auditor report that gives an average of the transaction costs to doing a deal. Which always be a % of the amount being publicized versus the amount actually recorded on the books. Assume transaction costs = travel, agent fees, player sign-on bonus, etc. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:52:19 PM
If you want to use your graphs (that fooled you last season) to convince yourself that that is no longer the approach, that's up to you.

 :lol:

I've been pretty consistent in saying Pardew is was and always has been a s*** manager, from the day we brought him in.

Some of his "excuses" have been valid and some of the specific criticisms against him weren't valid imo.

The fact he's run out of excuses and stopped winning the bare minimum of games to avoid full throated "Pardew Out" at home games has nowt to do with my graphs.

People just seem to like the graphs that bash him/Ashley and dislike the ones that show where they've not actually been too bad.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Crayola Kid on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:54:21 PM
I'm not starting a debate on this topic really, but it never makes sense to me that we focus on net spending on transfers without the rest of the club's finances... as if transfer spending is it's own self-contained thing.

It's been suggested that the tranfer policy is incomings must be paid for by outgoings.  Any other income will be used for servicing debt and a rainy day fund if we're relegation threatened come January.

Happy Face, as someone who pulls an enormous amount of detail from the financial side of how the club is run, can you not factor in some of the cash lost during a transfer, when looking for a net figure over a period of time?
I mean, the agent must be paid for, the player takes a cut, a ten million pound transfer can't net a club ten million pounds, can it?  I think of the movement of money in these deals as being like the movement of water in a game on 'It's A Knockout', spilling out everywhere.
This isn't to say NUFC have spent more than the net amount, but all clubs, because money leaks out every time a player is bought or sold, that's why agents like to tout players around, and why certain agents move certain players as often as possible (or try to at least).

Can you put a figure on it?  Sure it will vary, but say it was a ten million pound sale - can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the selling club will bank?
I know clubs have lots of costs, and some people will say that these payments should be lumped in with wages etc, but for me they are solely brought around by the transfer happening and so should come off the net figure when discussing transfer business over a set period.

Ten million pound sale, what do you say? 8 mil in the bank? 7? 9.5?

i just whack in the amounts reported when a sale happens.  There are no reports of agents fees or owt so not something I could reasonably include and source.

Fair enough, and it's the same everywhere (other media, forums), but it's a huge thing to miss when building an overall picture.  If a player takes ten percent (a benchmark I've heard often enough?), then over a period where 50m is taken in sales, there are costs of 5m before any payments are made to agents.
I imagine it to be around 15 percent, but that's without any specific knowledge other than such as you pick up when reading various sources.

Shouldnt be used to defend our club when all clubs are in the same boat, but it does suggest money above that received in sales has been spent this year so far.

Still, maybe Tiote will cover that
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:55:19 PM
If you want to use your graphs (that fooled you last season) to convince yourself that that is no longer the approach, that's up to you.

 :lol:

I've been pretty consistent in saying Pardew is was and always has been a s*** manager, from the day we brought him in.

Some of his "excuses" have been valid and some of the specific criticisms against him weren't valid imo.

The fact he's run out of excuses and stopped winning the bare minimum of games to avoid full throated "Pardew Out" at home games has nowt to do with my graphs.

People just seem to like the graphs that bash him/Ashley and dislike the ones that show where they've not actually been too bad.

Yes, because they enforce something we all put above graphs; our gut.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:56:45 PM
I'm not starting a debate on this topic really, but it never makes sense to me that we focus on net spending on transfers without the rest of the club's finances... as if transfer spending is it's own self-contained thing.

It's been suggested that the tranfer policy is incomings must be paid for by outgoings.  Any other income will be used for servicing debt and a rainy day fund if we're relegation threatened come January.

Happy Face, as someone who pulls an enormous amount of detail from the financial side of how the club is run, can you not factor in some of the cash lost during a transfer, when looking for a net figure over a period of time?
I mean, the agent must be paid for, the player takes a cut, a ten million pound transfer can't net a club ten million pounds, can it?  I think of the movement of money in these deals as being like the movement of water in a game on 'It's A Knockout', spilling out everywhere.
This isn't to say NUFC have spent more than the net amount, but all clubs, because money leaks out every time a player is bought or sold, that's why agents like to tout players around, and why certain agents move certain players as often as possible (or try to at least).

Can you put a figure on it?  Sure it will vary, but say it was a ten million pound sale - can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the selling club will bank?
I know clubs have lots of costs, and some people will say that these payments should be lumped in with wages etc, but for me they are solely brought around by the transfer happening and so should come off the net figure when discussing transfer business over a set period.

Ten million pound sale, what do you say? 8 mil in the bank? 7? 9.5?

i just whack in the amounts reported when a sale happens.  There are no reports of agents fees or owt so not something I could reasonably include and source.
clubs usually have to give the total amount spent on agents in a year so thats something
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Crayola Kid on Thursday 14 August 2014, 12:57:47 PM
There isn't a single way to figure out the net cost of transfer Crayola - unless there is a Deloitte or similar independent auditor report that gives an average of the transaction costs to doing a deal. Which always be a % of the amount being publicized versus the amount actually recorded on the books. Assume transaction costs = travel, agent fees, player sign-on bonus, etc. 

For sure, the thing is, we all know there are costs but the 'net figure' posts and websites dedicated to 'net figures' never include them.  Elephant in the room.  Net figures as they are given are useful to get a picture of what is being spent and in what direction the investment is going but they arent all they are supposed to be?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 01:01:08 PM
If you want to use your graphs (that fooled you last season) to convince yourself that that is no longer the approach, that's up to you.

 :lol:

I've been pretty consistent in saying Pardew is was and always has been a s*** manager, from the day we brought him in.

Some of his "excuses" have been valid and some of the specific criticisms against him weren't valid imo.

The fact he's run out of excuses and stopped winning the bare minimum of games to avoid full throated "Pardew Out" at home games has nowt to do with my graphs.

People just seem to like the graphs that bash him/Ashley and dislike the ones that show where they've not actually been too bad.

Yes, because they enforce something we all put above graphs; our gut.

Aye,  Like George Bush, people like to go with their gut.

Stats matter when they support my argument but they don't matter when it doesn't.

If I get a gut feeling I like it if I can look at the stats too, if they support what I felt in my gut then I have evidence, if not then I either need to reconsider or have someone tell me where my stats have misrepresented my view.

Wrong to just disregard.

Wullie has provided a perfectly reasonable explanation of why sales haven't been as high as previously.  Doesn't alter the fact we've been buying too.  You'd expect that with the TV deal though.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 14 August 2014, 01:07:04 PM
I just don't agree that stats are needed as an indicator, but that they supplement a human or professional response. Stats come in handy to highlight things, definitely and they come in handy when there are fine lines, but when they're stats that fly in the face of the perversely obvious, I don't think there's any point.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 01:17:04 PM
I just don't agree that stats are needed as an indicator, but that they supplement a human or professional response. Stats come in handy to highlight things, definitely and they come in handy when there are fine lines, but when they're stats that fly in the face of the perversely obvious, I don't think there's any point.

It's only obvious if it's your view.

Some racists gut feeling would say it's obvious that black people can't swim.  It's clear that no olympic champions are black etc.

Non racists would say the evidence of statistical analysis says black people are equally capable of swimming but that fewer black people are taught to swim.

...anyway whenever discussion turns to the inherent validity of stats then I bow out.  Prefer the discussion around what the stats suggest (or not).

No doubt I'll be back with another chart sooner or later :)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 14 August 2014, 01:28:59 PM
That's a really poor analogy like. :lol: and I would know.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 14 August 2014, 01:31:12 PM
Can Mike actually swim btw?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 14 August 2014, 01:53:26 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

f***ing Neesy, man. The best comedy timing ever.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 14 August 2014, 03:53:56 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 14 August 2014, 04:06:44 PM
He literally is the master.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 14 August 2014, 04:08:57 PM
ffs  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 14 August 2014, 04:09:51 PM
I just don't agree that stats are needed as an indicator, but that they supplement a human or professional response. Stats come in handy to highlight things, definitely and they come in handy when there are fine lines, but when they're stats that fly in the face of the perversely obvious, I don't think there's any point.

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 14 August 2014, 04:10:25 PM
You can use stats to prove anything. Stats, shmats.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: wyn davies on Thursday 14 August 2014, 04:53:33 PM
there are lies, damned lies & stats
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Thursday 14 August 2014, 05:01:22 PM
Stick your head in an oven and your feet in a freezer. On average you'd be comfortable etc.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Thursday 14 August 2014, 05:15:21 PM
well those pithy zings have convinced me; collecting and organizing data points over time is just a waste of effort and completely useless in all circumstances :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 14 August 2014, 05:27:24 PM
He's done a good job so far and deserves our support until proven otherwise. I like him, seems intelligent and seen a lot go on at this club and I'm sure he's already learned from others experiences.

I'm prepared to give him a chance, he's our best bet of a stable and successful club right now.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Happy Face on Thursday 14 August 2014, 05:28:11 PM
well those pithy zings have convinced me; collecting and organizing data points over time is just a waste of effort and completely useless in all circumstances :lol:

4 months ago my avatar was changed to the good Terminator and folk were asking me to produce a list of the worst stats available on Pardew to publicise, because I was looking at how badly he was doing.

 :laugh:

You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: bovineblue on Saturday 16 August 2014, 11:32:53 AM
No point wasting all that time playing matches to collect stats.  Should just get an expert to assess the league and determine where all the teams should finish.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:24:45 PM
You are a bald f***ing c***. That is all.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:25:51 PM

You are a bald f***ing c***. That is all.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:25:58 PM
Just think of the wages saved man
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:26:25 PM
He's done a good job so far and deserves our support until proven otherwise. I like him, seems intelligent and seen a lot go on at this club and I'm sure he's already learned from others experiences.

I'm prepared to give him a chance, he's our best bet of a stable and successful club right now.

Might be time to review this :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Danh1 on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:26:35 PM
To think people were giving the fat, specky, baldy c*** credit earlier in the summer.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:27:09 PM
No surprises here. Arselicker promoted because he'll do exactly what he's told does exactly what he's told to do.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toontownman on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:28:11 PM
Tbf he is doing a decent job if he is being told to get rid of Mapou and Hatem and that Pardew is happy with the squad. Completely failed on our one main target this summer which was getting a 15-20 goal striker in. Unforgivable.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Danh1 on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:29:53 PM
Tbf he is doing a decent job if he is being told to get rid of Mapou and Hatem and that Pardew is happy with the squad. Completely failed on our one main target this summer which was getting a 15-20 goal striker in. Unforgivable.

His job is surely assembling a squad good enough to progress? He has not done this one bit and we have lost Mbiwa and HBA, two players that should be starting every week - and have had no fee for either, and we're probably paying them to play elsewhere. f*** the bald headed clampit.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Atticus on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:30:51 PM
Thanks Lee :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:31:11 PM
He's got money for two players who the manager wasn't going to use all season. These players can still return as well should the manager leave.

I'm more annoyed on us not bringing in a cb as cover than anything else. The hba move is engineered to the best possible way to oust Pardew. It'll put massive pressure on him, much more than him staying.

All is not lost, it's a bad day but nothing irreversible.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Twinport53 on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:32:01 PM
He will make alot of enemies getting rid of Hatem like. c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Danh1 on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:34:35 PM
He's got money for two players who the manager wasn't going to use all season. These players can still return as well should the manager leave.

I'm more annoyed on us not bringing in a cb as cover than anything else. The hba move is engineered to the best possible way to oust Pardew. It'll put massive pressure on him, much more than him staying.

All is not lost, it's a bad day but nothing irreversible.

HBA will be out of contract and will be going elsewhere no doubt. Be plenty of decent clubs willing to sign him when he inevitably shines at Hull. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:35:34 PM
He will make alot of enemies getting rid of Hatem like. c***.

No he won't

Our fans will forget it come the next match.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toontownman on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:35:58 PM
I don't really know what his role is tbf. As far as assembling a squad good enough to progress I'd say that is down to Pardew, Carr and him. Then he is the intermediary to Ashley to get the funds necessary and go out and complete the deals.

 I wouldn't expect him to be anything more than a yes man, he has no background in football to make footballing decisions. Just like Pardew his is well out of his depth and probably would never be hired in any normal running club. But unlike Pardew he is closer to doing the job he has been told to though, just not the job we deserve.

I'm Batman.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:36:39 PM
He's got money for two players who the manager wasn't going to use all season. These players can still return as well should the manager leave.

I'm more annoyed on us not bringing in a cb as cover than anything else. The hba move is engineered to the best possible way to oust Pardew. It'll put massive pressure on him, much more than him staying.

All is not lost, it's a bad day but nothing irreversible.

HBA will be out of contract and will be going elsewhere no doubt. Be plenty of decent clubs willing to sign him when he inevitably shines at Hull.

From the sounds of it he's on loan till the next window, if Pardew goes before then we can offer him a contract and sign him back up.

Of all the realistic outcomes re hba this window, this is the best IMHO. Selling him or letting him rot would be a lot worse. It's sparked anger, let's see how it kicks off against hull.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:45:58 PM
I don't really know what his role is tbf. As far as assembling a squad good enough to progress I'd say that is down to Pardew, Carr and him. Then he is the intermediary to Ashley to get the funds necessary and go out and complete the deals.

 I wouldn't expect him to be anything more than a yes man, he has no background in football to make footballing decisions. Just like Pardew his is well out of his depth and probably would never be hired in any normal running club. But unlike Pardew he is closer to doing the job he has been told to though, just not the job we deserve.

I'm Batman.

Apart from spending a decade at the club and seeing 15 managers come and go, no he's got no background in football.  :crazy2:

All his decisions have been made with logic within the restraints he has to work in. I'm sure he'd love to sack Pardew, my guess is he doesn't have the power, he'll have to convince Ashley for that to happen, hba to hull is good leverage. (Maybe giving him a bit too much credit there, but think this place needs a bit of balance compared to f*** off you bald headed c***)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toontownman on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:51:41 PM
 :blush:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:52:40 PM
No wonder we can't sign anyone, the c***'s at Stoke doing a pathetic ice bucket thing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:53:55 PM
Bald f***ing wasteman.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:55:31 PM
I defended him to a large degree and thought he'd done a good job until today but he's fully complicit now. f*** off.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Pilko on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:56:50 PM
Kinnear provided another timely dose of lowering expectations, and all it cost us was a bit of beer money.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 1 September 2014, 09:58:33 PM
The hate divided is useless. If the fans had concentrated it all towards Pardew at the end of the season I think we could have had a new manager, instead it went straight to anti-Ashley and he dug his heels in to spite us.

If kick offs happen I hope it's aimed squarely at Pardew, not Ashley and certainly no point in this guy, not yet any way.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 1 September 2014, 10:07:01 PM
The hate divided is useless. If the fans had concentrated it all towards Pardew at the end of the season I think we could have had a new manager, instead it went straight to anti-Ashley and he dug his heels in to spite us.

If kick offs happen I hope it's aimed squarely at Pardew, not Ashley and certainly no point in this guy, not yet any way.

Will never happen because deep down Ashley is responsible for the overall malaise and some will never see anything other than this
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dr Venkman on Monday 1 September 2014, 10:16:01 PM
Everyone just needs to stop going man, :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 3 September 2014, 03:47:28 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-deadline-day-how-7712332

16.8% are happy with Pardew
23.5% are happy with Ashley
54.5% are happy with Charnley


Get voting, because that's either been hijacked by mackems or we're fighting a war against our own fans.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: timeEd32 on Wednesday 3 September 2014, 03:57:34 PM
The only number there that really bothers me is the Pardew one. The fact that 1 of every 6 Newcastle fans is happy with him is infuriating.

Mixed views on Charnley at this point seems about right to me and some will defend Ashley to the bitter end because of our improved financial state. Plus, it really doesn't matter how much we hate Ashley - he's going to do what he wants.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Sunday 11 January 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Need him to work his magic on Monsieur Garde. He seems alright to be fair and just a tad better than the previous incumbent.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ally on Sunday 11 January 2015, 09:00:08 AM
Charnley clearly is Ashley's voice but the fact he's local, worked at the club for years etc gives me some small hope that he actually gives a s***
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: EthiGeordie on Sunday 11 January 2015, 09:07:35 AM
Since his appointment things are getting better. If he manage to hire Garde that will be the first great managerial appointment since September 1999. It is not a small feet and he needs to be congratulated.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Sunday 11 January 2015, 09:09:21 AM
Congrats on your big feet Lee.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Sunday 11 January 2015, 09:17:24 AM
Having both him and Carr has been a huge blessing. Ashley has got to know and trust them now, and so is seemingly done bringing in random mates from London.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Sunday 11 January 2015, 09:55:06 AM
You guys. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ste on Sunday 11 January 2015, 10:13:46 AM
Mike Ashley's decision making process on appointing a new managing director.

"Ah, he's a Geordie, they'll trust him. Get to work, son."
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Sunday 11 January 2015, 10:15:34 AM
Isn't he from Blackpool?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: GeordieT on Sunday 11 January 2015, 10:20:32 AM
He's not from around here. Irving, the financial director is.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mr Logic on Sunday 11 January 2015, 10:22:49 AM
I remember someone on here saying they went to school with him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: bobbydazzla on Sunday 11 January 2015, 10:36:10 AM
He's not from around here. Irving, the financial director is.

Knew John Irving when we were kids and he loved NUFC.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 11 January 2015, 11:00:33 AM
Difficult to make a judgement on Charnley, really. The summer was a load of horseshit and his immediate proximity to Ashley makes me extremely sceptical, but appointing Garde would be an very positive step forward - for the sheer fact it's vaguely progressive. The last consciously progressive move the club made was in January 2012.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Sunday 11 January 2015, 11:18:46 AM
He's from Lancashire.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: SteveMc on Sunday 11 January 2015, 11:24:32 AM
Shame he's not from Millom
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:31:49 PM
He gets some slack if he hires the right man. If he doesn't he's a cock. Simple as that. I've said like a million times in this thread - he's got a job to do and I'm not going to pat him on the back if he continues to do nothing as we continue mediocrity. A decent manager can still accomplish all of Ashley's goals (money in his pocket and SD exposure) without breaking the bank.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:37:46 PM
Difficult to make a judgement on Charnley, really. The summer was a load of horseshit and his immediate proximity to Ashley makes me extremely sceptical, but appointing Garde would be an very positive step forward - for the sheer fact it's vaguely progressive. The last consciously progressive move the club made was in January 2012.

He's been running the club for over 18 months now, easily can make a judgement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:41:48 PM
Difficult to make a judgement on Charnley, really. The summer was a load of horseshit and his immediate proximity to Ashley makes me extremely sceptical, but appointing Garde would be an very positive step forward - for the sheer fact it's vaguely progressive. The last consciously progressive move the club made was in January 2012.

He's been running the club for over 18 months now, easily can make a judgement.

The next few days may be more revealing than the 18 months that preceeded it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: magpie1892 on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:43:27 PM
Difficult to make a judgement on Charnley, really. The summer was a load of horseshit and his immediate proximity to Ashley makes me extremely sceptical, but appointing Garde would be an very positive step forward - for the sheer fact it's vaguely progressive. The last consciously progressive move the club made was in January 2012.

He's been running the club for over 18 months now, easily can make a judgement.

'Incompetent 'yes man'' would cover it for me.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:46:23 PM
He actually did manage to sign some players this summer gone, which is more than could be said for Joe f***ing Kinnear. What Ashley's role was in all that we will never know.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:48:01 PM
Would love to know what he's on compared to other chief execs, bet it's absolutely peanuts.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:48:43 PM
Would love to know what he's on compared to other chief execs, bet it's absolutely peanuts.

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ToonTastic on Sunday 11 January 2015, 05:53:21 PM
Would love to know what he's on compared to other chief execs, bet it's absolutely peanuts.
He pays pretty well to be fair in business, maybe not paying footballers their crazy money but management and the like get a fair wage with cracking bonuses.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Sunday 11 January 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Exactly. I dread to think how much money Llambias extracted from us in his time here.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 11 January 2015, 06:53:22 PM
Always said I was prepared to give him a chance to make a difference. Hopefully this appointment is it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Sunday 11 January 2015, 06:57:08 PM
I am sure Llambias was on quite a low salary but because the contracts are incentive-driven, you never know what the final salary is.  He probably got a bonus every time he annoyed the fans.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Sunday 11 January 2015, 07:33:29 PM
Would love to know what he's on compared to other chief execs, bet it's absolutely peanuts.
He pays pretty well to be fair in business, maybe not paying footballers their crazy money but management and the like get a fair wage with cracking bonuses.

It's all performance related.

His checkout staff get 50p for every magazine they sell at the counter for example.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: antz1uk on Sunday 11 January 2015, 10:24:43 PM
Would love to know what he's on compared to other chief execs, bet it's absolutely peanuts.
He pays pretty well to be fair in business, maybe not paying footballers their crazy money but management and the like get a fair wage with cracking bonuses.

It's all performance related.

His checkout staff get 50p for every magazine they sell at the counter for example.

5p for every bag for life too  :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ToonTastic on Sunday 11 January 2015, 10:31:28 PM
Would love to know what he's on compared to other chief execs, bet it's absolutely peanuts.
He pays pretty well to be fair in business, maybe not paying footballers their crazy money but management and the like get a fair wage with cracking bonuses.

It's all performance related.

His checkout staff get 50p for every magazine they sell at the counter for example.
Not really 23k for assistant manager plus 25% if you stop a year. The 10k extra is the bonus. Same for manager except you start at 30k, then area manager 60k+. Not bad for retail really.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 12 January 2015, 03:49:48 AM
He actually did manage to sign some players this summer gone, which is more than could be said for Joe f***ing Kinnear. What Ashley's role was in all that we will never know.

i would like to think that charnley recognises the impact graham carr had on his job this summer - without perez and janmaat in particular he'd have essentially ended up looking like he'd balls'd his first major window activity but now he's got a potential superstar out of it and janmaat looks like one of the best RB's in the league (plus cabella will come good imo and you'd imagine de jong will be decent once fit :lol:

LC: "er Graham, Mike's asked me to sort the new head coach position out on me own, fancy helping me with me homework?"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: magpie1892 on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:12:27 AM
Would love to know what he's on compared to other chief execs, bet it's absolutely peanuts.

I have a very good idea of what he's on and his basic is well under £100,000. I don't know what bonus he gets for us finishing 17th or whatever.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:16:17 AM
No you don't.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: magpie1892 on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:16:44 AM
No you don't.

Yes, I do. Information is about 12 months old, I grant you, but still - I feel - gives me a 'very good idea'.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:35:27 AM
12 months ago Charnley wasn't our MD though
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Roger Kint on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:41:00 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: magpie1892 on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:41:40 AM
12 months ago Charnley wasn't our MD though

I'm aware of that. Based on what he was on - peanuts - as club secretary, and based on what Llambias was on (significantly more), etc, I have *sigh* a very good idea of what he's on now - but it's a joint effort. His bonus might be £500,000 for EPL survival, I don't know, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:46:42 AM
How would you be privy to these details?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: magpie1892 on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:51:53 AM
How would you be privy to these details?

I'm quite close to someone who used to be very high up at an EPL club and a lot of the CEOs discuss payment packages at various clubs - those who don't get decent coin tend not to say anything, and that's Charnley and a couple of others. A figure was arrived at for what he would have been on at the time and that has resurfaced recently with Jabba's involvement at Rangers - where every sports journalist in Scotland has a contact, and I know 90% of sports journalists in Scotland.

I also know two admin staff at NUFC and know exactly what a number of other backroom staff are on.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:53:15 AM
What was Llambias on out of interest?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: magpie1892 on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 10:56:51 AM
What was Llambias on out of interest?

Basic, in the region of £275-£300,000. I know he had a fairly complex bonus structure in his contract - and does again, at Rangers (where he's on less, but not by much).

Funnily enough I am writing about gaming regulation in Malta at the moment - I'd best get on.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 08:59:31 PM
Even if it's all lies, I'm glad he's said something. Makes a refreshing change from diddly f***ing squat.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:04:32 PM
Even if it's all lies, I'm glad he's said something. Makes a refreshing change from diddly f***ing squat.

I'd prefer actions over words like.

No players in, No manager in absolute f***ing joke and I don't give a f*** about his empty words.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:05:04 PM
Slowest reader in the NE this c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:05:55 PM
Well of course, I'm just saying it makes a change to hear something rather than holding us in utter contempt by staying silent at such important times.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:06:32 PM
I'd have more confidence in f***ing Harry Hill than this guy
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:07:16 PM
Even if it's all lies, I'm glad he's said something. Makes a refreshing change from diddly f***ing squat.

Nothing new though Dave. Still the Ashley party line.

Not one positive in that statement other than the fact the daft c*** has made one in the first place.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:08:15 PM
Well of course, I'm just saying it makes a change to hear something rather than holding us in utter contempt by staying silent at such important times.

I know what you mean Dave but I feel like he's done the equivalent of saying nothing (not that it wasn't totally expected)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:08:59 PM
Can only assume that c*** Bishop has just got back off hols.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:09:54 PM
Can only assume that c*** Bishop has just got back off hols.

:thup:

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:11:03 PM
I'd have more confidence in f***ing Harry Hill than this guy

And he's not even gay.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midstoon on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:13:17 PM
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Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:13:42 PM
Utter crock of s****.

Would've been wiser to keep his mouth shut completely than spout that utter bollocks.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:15:02 PM
George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes  1m1 minute ago
Interesting to read thoughts of the lesser-spotted Lee Charnley. No manager until summer, no signings in Jan? #Nufc http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-8484848 …

Seems to agree with our assessment of the situation.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:16:43 PM
Seems to me that Charvers outburst after the game has lead this PR piece.

I don't think this bell would've come out to talk otherwise.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:17:02 PM
Llambias was sometimes do a similar state of the union address and say basically the same things without ever backing it up.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:17:45 PM
The poll on fan confidence after his interview doesn't make good reading for him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:17:46 PM
George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes  1m1 minute ago
Interesting to read thoughts of the lesser-spotted Lee Charnley. No manager until summer, no signings in Jan? #Nufc http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-8484848 …

Seems to agree with our assessment of the situation.

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CaulkinTheTimes: Apart from that PLEASE BUY A SEASON TICKET.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:20:05 PM
What is there in that interview that would encourage you to buy a season ticket?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:20:43 PM
Caulkin spot on again
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:20:56 PM
George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes  1m1 minute ago
Interesting to read thoughts of the lesser-spotted Lee Charnley. No manager until summer, no signings in Jan? #Nufc http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-8484848 …

Seems to agree with our assessment of the situation.

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CaulkinTheTimes: Apart from that PLEASE BUY A SEASON TICKET.

People will renew regardless.

Football has become a consumer product for consumption, I wish fans would make rational decisions based upon this fact. :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:22:30 PM
George Caulkin ‏@CaulkinTheTimes  1m1 minute ago
Interesting to read thoughts of the lesser-spotted Lee Charnley. No manager until summer, no signings in Jan? #Nufc http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-8484848 …

Seems to agree with our assessment of the situation.

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CaulkinTheTimes: Apart from that PLEASE BUY A SEASON TICKET.
Think he's right. The worst possible outcomes as usual.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:22:46 PM
Llambias was sometimes do a similar state of the union address and say basically the same things without ever backing it up.

Yep
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:23:35 PM
What is there in that interview that would encourage you to buy a season ticket?

"We'll get a new manager next season, promise."
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:24:19 PM
"we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him".
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:24:56 PM
The most idiotic statement has to be we have a full roster so bringing in players this January window was never on the cards. Does this f***er even know we have three centre backs, one of whom is out for the season?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:25:58 PM
What is there in that interview that would encourage you to buy a season ticket?

"We'll get a new manager next season, promise."

Rather wait and take the £50 hit in the unlikely event it's someone capable.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:29:15 PM
"we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him".

About the only part I didn't agree with. But I'm sure both side will be arse kissing a while longer as to not leak any goss on each other.

As soon as pardew left this window was done. No way we'd buy any player without a manager, so no loss there. I agree in principle of waiting for the right candidate, however, we need to arrange that move ASAP, have it signed and ready to go for the summer, which means carver knows his place, and the fans know the future.

If it's all genuine then there's not much in that which upsets or annoys me. Whether it's the truth time will tell. I won't hold my breath but I wont abuse him either for simply doing his job to a better standard than anything we've seen from Ashley's cronies so far.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:29:26 PM
You can see this baldheaded c*** sitting back and wondering why are they are so upset?

We are bringing home the balance sheet cup for the second year running, Ungrateful b******s.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:29:39 PM
The most idiotic statement has to be we have a full roster so bringing in players this January window was never on the cards. Does this f***er even know we have three centre backs, one of whom is out for the season?
response would probably be but we have a cb coming in the summer and that will bring us to 4 so why buy one. Scary thing is one long term injury to Colo and we probably do go down and he's not that great to begin with
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Wonder how the media and pundits will react to the comments about old style English managers and not having the final say on transfers. Something they all seem really allergic to.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: nufcjmc on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:30:54 PM
While some of the reaction on here is one of the reasons they are reluctant to engage as it gets picked apart the simple rules of business is you soften bad news with good news telling loyal fans the up side is they are taking their time is just idiotic. Not only that but having sold and not replaced players then giving that as an example of what the new trusting "triangle" is about is ludicrous
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:31:25 PM
"we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him".

About the only part I didn't agree with. But I'm sure both side will be arse kissing a while longer as to not leak any goss on each other.

As soon as pardew left this window was done. No way we'd buy any player without a manager, so no loss there. I agree in principle of waiting for the right candidate, however, we need to arrange that move ASAP, have it signed and ready to go for the summer, which means carver knows his place, and the fans know the future.

If it's all genuine then there's not much in that which upsets or annoys me. Whether it's the truth time will tell. I won't hold my breath but I wont abuse him either for simply doing his job to a better standard than anything we've seen from Ashley's cronies so far.



No better or worse than Llambias tbh.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:31:59 PM
"we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him".

About the only part I didn't agree with. But I'm sure both side will be arse kissing a while longer as to not leak any goss on each other.

As soon as pardew left this window was done. No way we'd buy any player without a manager, so no loss there. I agree in principle of waiting for the right candidate, however, we need to arrange that move ASAP, have it signed and ready to go for the summer, which means carver knows his place, and the fans know the future.

If it's all genuine then there's not much in that which upsets or annoys me. Whether it's the truth time will tell. I won't hold my breath but I wont abuse him either for simply doing his job to a better standard than anything we've seen from Ashley's cronies so far.



No better or worse than Llambias tbh.

Short memory.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gorilla on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:32:04 PM
On that poll they have on there about if Charnley's bollocks makes us feel better 72% no.  I bet its an experiment, he'll not do this again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:32:06 PM
While some of the reaction on here is one of the reasons they are reluctant to engage as it gets picked apart the simple rules of business is you soften bad news with good news telling loyal fans the up side is they are taking their time is just idiotic. Not only that but having sold and not replaced players then giving that as an example of what the new trusting "triangle" is about is ludicrous

 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:34:14 PM
"we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him".

About the only part I didn't agree with. But I'm sure both side will be arse kissing a while longer as to not leak any goss on each other.

As soon as pardew left this window was done. No way we'd buy any player without a manager, so no loss there. I agree in principle of waiting for the right candidate, however, we need to arrange that move ASAP, have it signed and ready to go for the summer, which means carver knows his place, and the fans know the future.

If it's all genuine then there's not much in that which upsets or annoys me. Whether it's the truth time will tell. I won't hold my breath but I wont abuse him either for simply doing his job to a better standard than anything we've seen from Ashley's cronies so far.



No better or worse than Llambias tbh.

Short memory.

Nope. Blind faith will get you nowhere.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:35:03 PM
I'd be perfectly happy for him to remain silent at all times as long as he was doing his job properly. His lies and spin seem to do nothing but vex people.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:35:53 PM
I'd be perfectly happy for him to remain silent at all times as long as he was doing his job properly. His lies and spin seem to do nothing but vex people.

Midds on the money as usual.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ash on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:37:45 PM
One of those 25 players we have registered in our PL squad is Ferreyra. Go and sign a CB you useless f***s.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:38:01 PM
Would love someone to ask him what the point of the rest of the season is
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:38:35 PM
Pointless football club.  Sell pk
Player for x amount and buy bargain cheap replacements, while ashley sneaks off with all the tv dosh.  How this isnt a scandel i  i dont fckin know.

Ashley wonders why he gets stick.  f*** off the lot off you.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:38:46 PM
One of those 25 players we have registered in our PL squad is Ferreyra. Go and sign a CB you useless f***s.
Two others are the Taylors (IIRC). Yeah, definitely need the three of them registered.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toon25 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:38:53 PM
The most idiotic statement has to be we have a full roster so bringing in players this January window was never on the cards. Does this f***er even know we have three centre backs, one of whom is out for the season?
response would probably be but we have a cb coming in the summer and that will bring us to 4 so why buy one. Scary thing is one long term injury to Colo and we probably do go down and he's not that great to begin with

The fact they consider Williamson a football player us even more worrying.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:40:19 PM
He'll be releasing another statement when the financial results are out. He'll be as proud as punch.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:44:36 PM
He'll be releasing another statement when the financial results are out. He'll be as proud as punch.
Frankly I almost expect an open top parade with how big the profits going to be, they'll invite every media outlet they can think off to show off how "good" they are and that is a vindication of mike ashleys policy praise be to the great leader etc etc. The fact that the profit comes about because we managed to go through a season with 0 permanent transfers in and somehow finished midtable will be conveniently ignored.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:45:05 PM
"we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him".

About the only part I didn't agree with. But I'm sure both side will be arse kissing a while longer as to not leak any goss on each other.

As soon as pardew left this window was done. No way we'd buy any player without a manager, so no loss there. I agree in principle of waiting for the right candidate, however, we need to arrange that move ASAP, have it signed and ready to go for the summer, which means carver knows his place, and the fans know the future.

If it's all genuine then there's not much in that which upsets or annoys me. Whether it's the truth time will tell. I won't hold my breath but I wont abuse him either for simply doing his job to a better standard than anything we've seen from Ashley's cronies so far.



No better or worse than Llambias tbh.

Short memory.

You must have. This may as well have been a copy paste from a Llambias statement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:47:05 PM
"we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field, and Alan played a big part in that and I thank him".

About the only part I didn't agree with. But I'm sure both side will be arse kissing a while longer as to not leak any goss on each other.

As soon as pardew left this window was done. No way we'd buy any player without a manager, so no loss there. I agree in principle of waiting for the right candidate, however, we need to arrange that move ASAP, have it signed and ready to go for the summer, which means carver knows his place, and the fans know the future.

If it's all genuine then there's not much in that which upsets or annoys me. Whether it's the truth time will tell. I won't hold my breath but I wont abuse him either for simply doing his job to a better standard than anything we've seen from Ashley's cronies so far.



No better or worse than Llambias tbh.

Short memory.

You must have. This may as well have been a copy paste from a Llambias statement.

I thank you.

TT seems to have a hard-on for this latest c*** for some reason.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:51:58 PM
Did the chronicle even conduct an interview or just text him a few questions
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 09:54:20 PM
He's not done anything wrong. I'd like to know what anyone else could be doing instead? He has a job, set out by the guy who pays him, and is doing his best to get on with it.

I'm sure he'd love to be working under an owner splashing the cash and having a love fest with the fans but that's simply not the case.

If it's not him it's JFK embarrassing the club getting p*ssed shouting at random press or ringing up sky sports telling everyone how he created the world in 3 days.

I just can't get angry at him, he's playing with the hand he's been dealt, he's done nothing stupid like strip naked, slag off club icons, took the p*ss out of other clubs or caused any other drama.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Bad Mongo on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:01:11 PM
I agree. What more can we expect from a Sontaran?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:03:36 PM
I wouldnt work for ashley while he systematically rapes something i love. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:04:36 PM
I wouldnt work for ashley while he systematically rapes something i love.

f***ing right. The bloke has a choice ffs. Ooh poor Lee gets loads of money to f*** over NUFC. Heart bleeds for him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:04:44 PM
He's not done anything wrong. I'd like to know what anyone else could be doing instead? He has a job, set out by the guy who pays him, and is doing his best to get on with it.

I'm sure he'd love to be working under an owner splashing the cash and having a love fest with the fans but that's simply not the case.

If it's not him it's JFK embarrassing the club getting p*ssed shouting at random press or ringing up sky sports telling everyone how he created the world in 3 days.

I just can't get angry at him, he's playing with the hand he's been dealt, he's done nothing stupid like strip naked, slag off club icons, took the p*ss out of other clubs or caused any other drama.

He talks about not wanting a yes man for the head coach job, and how they continuously challenge each other within the club. As if this slimy arse licker would have the balls to challenge Ashley to pay up in order to release their preferred choice for next manager or to strengthen the glaring holes in our squad in this transfer window. He's just a slightly more eloquent, less brazen Llambias. A yes man if ever I saw one.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:09:15 PM
He's come out with this statement. Prove it now. Prove to hire a non "yes" man who is a top head coach who will set us out playing a great style, long term, and have his mark stamped on the reserve, and academy teams. Communicate better with the fans too. Prove it all.

Right f*** off until then, when you continuously take the p*ss out of the supporters every single week and spin statements, you will rightfully get abused and questioned.  They've continued to smile at a balance sheet while our club drifts away in ambition-less mediocrity serving up boring football as we waste recruited players and opportunities to kick on the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: duo on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:16:04 PM
He sounds clueless.  No Striker in Jan, not even a CB with Taylor out injured.  Complete joke. :idiot2:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:16:10 PM

I'm sure he's just doing his job.

I just pay absolutely no interest to anything statements wise which comes out of the club. It amounts to the same as the nearest pile of dogshit from my flat.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: duo on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:18:28 PM

I'm sure he's just doing his job.

I just pay absolutely no interest to anything statements wise which comes out of the club. It amounts to the same as the nearest pile of dogshit from my flat.
A job he probably knows nothing about.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:18:34 PM
The bit about not wanting a yes man is pretty comical considering most of the rest of it is about how the right person will have to be a yes man. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:20:21 PM
The bit about not wanting a yes man is pretty comical considering most of the rest of it is about how the right person will have to be a yes man. :lol:

Imagine if we appoint "John I'll play the strongest side in the cup Carver"  :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:26:24 PM
Typical brown nosing c***! Get to f*** you arse wipe.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:30:26 PM
Needless to say Premier League rules allow you to change your 25 in January. Would be canny f***ing pointless having a transfer window then if they didn't.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:33:53 PM
Needless to say Premier League rules allow you to change your 25 in January. Would be canny f***ing pointless having a transfer window then if they didn't.

Aye that little segment was a bit of an insult. Never in a million years is that a justification for no signings.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:36:26 PM
Hilarious he even said it the bald c***
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:37:34 PM
TOO MANY PURPLES!!!!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: morpeth mag on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:41:55 PM
Well I'm clearly in a minority here but I think the statement takes us forward a little.  Of course some of what he says is hardly credible, every club must have a resilience plan to see out an emergency and replacing AP must have been a consideration. On the player side of things he is clearly saying we can survive until the summer. Likewise on the Head Coach front. Many may disagree with his analysis but at least he has come out and begun to clarify the position as seen inside the club. I think the Coach role is a positive contribution to get value from Carr's players and even can see an Anita dig at Pardew when he says that there is no point buying players if they are not picked. For sure actions are louder than words but accountability only comes once you have outlined some sort of plan. So for me making any statement was a first step on a long road. (Puts helmet on)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:44:22 PM
Gulp ... Was kind of encouraged by the statement :undecided:

I like what was said about the new man's philosophy running through the club.

Think it's pretty clear we won't be getting a complete oaf in, which is a relief for me at least.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:44:25 PM
Stupid bald f***ing c*** talking a load of waffle, hope he f***s off, f***ing thumb in a suit.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:44:51 PM
Stupid bald f***ing c*** talking a load of waffle, hope he f***s off, f***ing thumb in a suit.

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:46:25 PM
Stupid bald f***ing c*** talking a load of waffle, hope he f***s off, f***ing thumb in a suit.

:lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:47:21 PM
The Chronicle's exclusive is what exactly? He's in every f***ing paper tomorrow, and they're all saying we're going to wait until the Summer.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:47:28 PM
Gulp ... Was kind of encouraged by the statement :undecided:

I like what was said about the new man's philosophy running through the club.

Think it's pretty clear we won't be getting a complete oaf in, which is a relief for me at least.

If they follow through with it then they'll get credit for it. At the minute it's just words on a screen and they've got a proven track record of spouting utter lies and pigshit to pacify the fanbase. Don't talk about it - do it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:47:54 PM
Well I'm clearly in a minority here but I think the statement takes us forward a little.  Of course some of what he says is hardly credible, every club must have a resilience plan to see out an emergency and replacing AP must have been a consideration. On the player side of things he is clearly saying we can survive until the summer. Likewise on the Head Coach front. Many may disagree with his analysis but at least he has come out and begun to clarify the position as seen inside the club. I think the Coach role is a positive contribution to get value from Carr's players and even can see an Anita dig at Pardew when he says that there is no point buying players if they are not picked. For sure actions are louder than words but accountability only comes once you have outlined some sort of plan. So for me making any statement was a first step on a long road. (Puts helmet on)

The statement was littered with the usual spin but I don't disagree with what you've said there, in principle. Until that long road is dotted with fulfilled promises and at least a vague representation of on-field success, he remains a corporate, transparent member of the regime.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:49:14 PM
LOL at the whole statement. Another fraud totally unqualified for the position that he finds himself in.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:54:32 PM
Gulp ... Was kind of encouraged by the statement :undecided:

I like what was said about the new man's philosophy running through the club.

Think it's pretty clear we won't be getting a complete oaf in, which is a relief for me at least.

If they follow through with it then they'll get credit for it. At the minute it's just words on a screen and they've got a proven track record of spouting utter lies and pigshit to pacify the fanbase. Don't talk about it - do it.

It would be unreal to hire an idiot after that statement.

We know for a fact that Carr is heavily involved now. We also know it won't be another oaf that refuses to use the players, and doesn't have any real philosophy on the game.

If they hire someone naff after stating all that I'll be stunned.

Just praying we can get someone in this month.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:57:00 PM
Seriously, how can any of us take what Charnley has to say as the truth?!

The whole f***ing lot of this statement f***ing stinks man. Seriously...what. the. f***?!

We are on 27 points, 9 less than at this stage last season.
If we have the same form as last season (baring other teams results in mind) we would still stay up by 7 points. (Very quick, rough estimate.)

That is literally how the club look at this season, now.

What they seem to fail to realise, is that momentum can be key, and presently we have the most momentum in the Premier League. Only we're one of the few teams who are stuck in reverse. f*** me if these c***s built a car the gear box would be like this:

R6   R4   R2
     Neutral
R5   R3   R1

We're on a s*** run of form, we have been beaten by our rivals (again), knocked out both cups and our best players are being touted about with moves to other clubs. The one bit of the statement which everyone knows is true is that they will gladly sell our key players in this month. So in a f***ing tiny squad, with no manager, the only thing we're looking to do is weaken for financial gain...because simply we don't get value for money in this transfer window, they can rip other peoples eyes out, and we're already safe in their mind.

That, they pretty much say in that statement. To even mention replacements and trusting they will get them is just a f***ing insult.

They don't need a full-time permanent appointment yet for the same reason. So if they can skimp by on John Carver they will, if it makes the end appointment any cheaper.

Communication with the fans will continue through the fan forums seemingly, and this is a f***ing joke in itself, because from odd's and sods I have read and heard, any time they are properly challenged they either spout s**** or remove people from the forum meetings. Signing communication will be silent as always. Profit figures will be released, prepared with glorified statistics and statements on the clubs financial growth and how superb we are being ran. Only to see the match-day revenue stay the same way because no-one is willing to give it up and show these c***s. Problem being, match-day revenue probably isn't all-that important anyways to clubs. Unless it means less TV revenue as a consequence.

They have no ambition and that's what this statement is. A statement of no ambition. The right appointment and backing now and within 4 games you could potentially be in the European spots. Without it you could be bottom. We had the mentality of being too good to go down the last time we went down, so it means f*** all to me that debate. We don't have the bollocks someone like Burnley has, and that showed when they should have beat us up here.

Finally, if these c***s want to be challenged and they want everyone to do that from the bottom up, well fine. The fans are obviously the bottom of this chain in their minds, so we should take this as our call to arms and get at the dipshit, fucktard, c***-traps.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 10:59:48 PM
Doesn't matter a jot what the statement says anyway. Their MO is to reduce expectations and they've no issue intentionally misleading fans, because most of them are thick as mince anyway. They'll lap this s*** up and wait six months for the pot of gold, only for there to be another inevitable reason why the pot of gold is once again out of reach.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:07:42 PM
LOL at the whole statement. Another fraud totally unqualified for the position that he finds himself in.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toon25 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:22:50 PM
Heza and SEMTEX -  :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: AlanSkärare on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:23:11 PM
Just read it again. It's incompetence and greed designed to look like sophistication. The usual drill.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Noodles on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:34:41 PM
Just read it again. It's incompetence and greed designed to look like sophistication. The usual drill.

Couldn't agree more.

80 applicants? f*** right off. A full squad of 25 players? Who does he think he's kidding here? Ashley has given them one remit in their jobs - "don't spend money". That's the be all and end all and it'll see the end of this clubs tenure in the too flight if it allows to continue.

You can't stay in the premiership by drifting. That's all we are doing at the moment, drifting. In fact I'd go as far as to say we may as well be the Mary f***ing Celeste. No direction, no leadership, no goals, no ambition. f***ing crap.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:41:22 PM
So the 25, let's name them:

Krul
Elliott
Alnwick

Haidara
Santon
Dummett
Janmaat
Raylor
Saylor
Colo
Williamson

Gouffran
Obertan
Siem de Jong
Abeid
Tiote
Sissoko
Cabella
Anita
Colback

Ayoze
Cisse
Riviere
Armstrong
Ferrera

I'll let you all do the squad analysis (i.e. fit / good enough / likely to be sold) for February 1st...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:43:04 PM
<<<<<<
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:43:45 PM
Pretty sure Armstrong and possibly others don't have tl be registered yet
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:44:22 PM
I'm fairly certain that one of the Forest lads is in the 25 even though we can't recall them. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:45:33 PM
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/squad-lists/Premier-League-squad-lists-September-2014.pdf
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:46:43 PM
Aye, seems I'm talking bollocks there, convinced I read that on .com or somewhere.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gino14 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:51:22 PM
Another one absolutely stealing a living. His statement reads as a bunch of things to do at a later date. Basically nobody but the first team will be doing any work for six months, when the people in charge finally do the bare minimum again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:52:32 PM
If waiting until the summer means we not only get Remi Garde in (or someone of that calibre) but we also clear the decks and bring in a proper backroom and coaching team then I could live with it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mistle17 on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:52:45 PM
Great to see the club lamenting our poor cup record and looking to improve it, whilst talking about future ambitions of getting back into Europe, challenging for honors, and being 'back where we belong'....


 :suicide: :anguish:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:53:37 PM
Charnley is Llambias mk2 without the edge.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Greg on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:53:53 PM
Quote from: IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE MANAGER'S ARBITRATION TRIBUNAL
PHILIP HAVERS QC (CHAIRMAN)
LORD PANNICK QC
KENNETH MERRETT
26. The Club's explanation for these statements, which, on their case, were simply untrue, was that they were nothing more than an exercise in public relations carried out so as not to undermine Mr Keegan's position and made necessary, in the first place, by statements made by Mr Keegan himself to the press. We found this explanation to be profoundly unsatisfactory.

29. Thirdly, for the Club to have made these statements, when they were, according to the Club, untrue, was, in our view, simply to store up trouble for the future.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 20 January 2015, 11:57:31 PM
If they could 100% get someone's name on a contract and guarantee Garde/Tuchel/whoever taking over at the end of the season, with a full remit to bring in their own staff, then in theory that would be tolerable. In practice, you've still got people who've paid good money to watch John Carver try and stumble his way to 13 points for another 4 months.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:00:25 AM
I just finished reading this.

I got to say good job to both the Chronicle asking some pertinent questions and Charnley for being pretty open with his answers. It's only a shame it took so long.

In terms of the content, I kind of agree with the general sentiments of building towards the long term and not sacrificing principles for short term popularity. I agree also with the management structure he talked about of the triangle between the MD, chief scout and head coach. The need to find a head coach that fits within their structure is also made clear and again something I would agree very much with.

What I would like to know though are what are the corporate goals or mission statement ? Is it (as I believe it should for any football team) to be the best team in the land and compete for the highest honours ? Or is it to be a financially sound business. Because if it's the former then after 7 years there is little sign of this long term strategy working, 7 years is enough time to have expected to see some progress but we are in exactly the same place as where we were when ashley took over, a nothing club competing for nothing. If it's the latter, then job done in the short term but good luck retaining that profitability when the supporters begin to slowly drift away as they are right now.

While I applaud them for keeping to their principles of long term planning and fire prevention rather than fighting, all good businesses know when they need to compromise those principles by implementing short term solutions, such as right now we need a quality CB in the Jan window, by hook or crook they have to get one in. We also need a head coach in place for the remainder of the season that is capable of getting the points to ensure we stay in the PL, because the guy you have in place right now is not. You might need to accelerate the process by paying compensation for the head coach you want or find a better temporary solution.
   
I hope they continue to communicate with the fans in this manner, sometimes we don't like what they have to say but the important thing is they are talking again. It would be nice to recognise that and not instantly jump down their throats because we don't like the content of the message. Having said that I don't blame any supporters for having a go at them because that kind of respect needs to be earned and they've done nothing over the last few years to earn any respect from the fans. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:12:28 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-lift-fog-confusion-8484843
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:13:49 AM
Quote
the worst thing I could do is over-promise and under-deliver

The people who run NUFC these days could certainly never be accused of over-promising.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:14:21 AM
Quote
they can bank credit for pledging to improve communication

:rolleyes:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derek-llambias-sorry-lack-communication-1449439
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:16:23 AM
I just finished reading this.

I got to say good job to both the Chronicle asking some pertinent questions and Charnley for being pretty open with his answers. It's only a shame it took so long.

In terms of the content, I kind of agree with the general sentiments of building towards the long term and not sacrificing principles for short term popularity. I agree also with the management structure he talked about of the triangle between the MD, chief scout and head coach. The need to find a head coach that fits within their structure is also made clear and again something I would agree very much with.

What I would like to know though are what are the corporate goals or mission statement ? Is it (as I believe it should for any football team) to be the best team in the land and compete for the highest honours ? Or is it to be a financially sound business. Because if it's the former then after 7 years there is little sign of this long term strategy working, 7 years is enough time to have expected to see some progress but we are in exactly the same place as where we were when ashley took over, a nothing club competing for nothing. If it's the latter, then job done in the short term but good luck retaining that profitability when the supporters begin to slowly drift away as they are right now.

While I applaud them for keeping to their principles of long term planning and fire prevention rather than fighting, all good businesses know when they need to compromise those principles by implementing short term solutions, such as right now we need a quality CB in the Jan window, by hook or crook they have to get one in. We also need a head coach in place for the remainder of the season that is capable of getting the points to ensure we stay in the PL, because the guy you have in place right now is not. You might need to accelerate the process by paying compensation for the head coach you want or find a better temporary solution.
   
I hope they continue to communicate with the fans in this manner, sometimes we don't like what they have to say but the important thing is they are talking again. It would be nice to recognise that and not instantly jump down their throats because we don't like the content of the message. Having said that I don't blame any supporters for having a go at them because that kind of respect needs to be earned and they've done nothing over the last few years to earn any respect from the fans. 

All we have learned is that those who fear the worst are probably right, we don't have any ambition in the slightest to be a proper football club and our only outlook is to survive.

We're not a football club who strives to improve on and off the field, we're a business whose only targets are financial.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:17:22 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-lift-fog-confusion-8484843

What a pile of nothing

Talk for the sake of talking
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:18:19 AM
Quote
they can bank credit for pledging to improve communication

:rolleyes:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derek-llambias-sorry-lack-communication-1449439

Some world class horseshit in there.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:18:54 AM
 :lol:

Aye.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:20:03 AM
 :: HOW he and Ashley were gutted to see Kevin Keegan quit;

:: HOW the current board have regretted the huge mistakes they’ve made;

:: WHY fans will now be given a voice at St James’s;

:: HOW the director of football model — with Dennis Wise STILL on board — will put the club in great shape for years to come;

:: WHY Ashley will splash the cash in the summer.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: duo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:22:04 AM
Needless to say Premier League rules allow you to change your 25 in January. Would be canny f***ing pointless having a transfer window then if they didn't.

Aye that little segment was a bit of an insult. Never in a million years is that a justification for no signings.
Charnley has helped me make my mind up about whether to cancel my ST. Had enough of this dross....DD will be stopped.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:25:00 AM
Quote
“In five years’ time I would hope we would be challenging for everything.

“We hope to be like an Aston Villa.

:lol: Relegated a few months later btw.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:25:45 AM
I just finished reading this.

I got to say good job to both the Chronicle asking some pertinent questions and Charnley for being pretty open with his answers. It's only a shame it took so long.

In terms of the content, I kind of agree with the general sentiments of building towards the long term and not sacrificing principles for short term popularity. I agree also with the management structure he talked about of the triangle between the MD, chief scout and head coach. The need to find a head coach that fits within their structure is also made clear and again something I would agree very much with.

What I would like to know though are what are the corporate goals or mission statement ? Is it (as I believe it should for any football team) to be the best team in the land and compete for the highest honours ? Or is it to be a financially sound business. Because if it's the former then after 7 years there is little sign of this long term strategy working, 7 years is enough time to have expected to see some progress but we are in exactly the same place as where we were when ashley took over, a nothing club competing for nothing. If it's the latter, then job done in the short term but good luck retaining that profitability when the supporters begin to slowly drift away as they are right now.

While I applaud them for keeping to their principles of long term planning and fire prevention rather than fighting, all good businesses know when they need to compromise those principles by implementing short term solutions, such as right now we need a quality CB in the Jan window, by hook or crook they have to get one in. We also need a head coach in place for the remainder of the season that is capable of getting the points to ensure we stay in the PL, because the guy you have in place right now is not. You might need to accelerate the process by paying compensation for the head coach you want or find a better temporary solution.
   
I hope they continue to communicate with the fans in this manner, sometimes we don't like what they have to say but the important thing is they are talking again. It would be nice to recognise that and not instantly jump down their throats because we don't like the content of the message. Having said that I don't blame any supporters for having a go at them because that kind of respect needs to be earned and they've done nothing over the last few years to earn any respect from the fans. 

All we have learned is that those who fear the worst are probably right, we don't have any ambition in the slightest to be a proper football club and our only outlook is to survive.

We're not a football club who strives to improve on and off the field, we're a business whose only targets are financial.

I don't disagree with you that that is the impression that must be drawn. But I would really like to see their mission statement to see if they are just bad at planning for the goals or they are actually reaching them as you say.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:26:21 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-lift-fog-confusion-8484843

What a pile of nothing

Talk for the sake of talking

I don't have a problem with this piece actually.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:33:21 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-lift-fog-confusion-8484843

What a pile of nothing

Talk for the sake of talking

I don't have a problem with this piece actually.

It's just rinse and repeat, ad infinitum.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:41:30 AM
Quote
“In five years’ time I would hope we would be challenging for everything.

“We hope to be like an Aston Villa.

:lol: Relegated a few months later btw.

Tbf they've almost achieved that target.  Both zombie clubs.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mistle17 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:07:38 AM
It's perfectly timed. They know we're going to be in the s***, and deep, quite soon- no manager, no signings, probably departures- and combing those things, despite how stupid the majority of our new-breed fanbase are, people won't be keen on renewing. But, because the majority of our new-breed fanbase are worryingly easy to convince this will be music to their ears and think, 'well, why aye the club are changing their ways man...Pardews gone, new era and top 10 next year like :thup:'. And so, the cycle of footballing death continues.

Incredible how anyone can believe a single word of that utter crap. The club have a set way of running, we have not ever been ambitions under Ashley, are not, and will never be. Any talk of a coach bringing in a 'philosophy' of play won't change that. I think people get over excited when they hear a coach with a playing 'philosophy', and mentally link this to a Barcelona-Guardiola style of play- Mike Ashley has a 'philosophy' for running a football club. Tim Sherwood has a philosophy- a flat, boring 4-4-2, and it sucks. Tony Pulis has a philosophy, and although it's very dull it obviously works. But the fact is you're splitting hairs trying to take positives out of that.

As long as Ashley's here it will always be the same old lies, deceit, and a crushing lack of ambition/investment in the club. I just hope and pray that people don't renew and actually start to make a stand against this.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chicago_shearer on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:16:01 AM
I think Charnley comes off ok in that interview, but there is no reason to believe any of it.

On the brighter side, it sounds like the obstacle is signing a target whose preference is a move during the summer. That's at least reassuring that the higher quality targets being mentioned in the press (Garde, Tuchel) are accurate and we might not end up with Curbishley on a 7 year deal. But Carver is going to fail. That is not in doubt. So when, not if, the club get sucked down into a relegation battle this season, then what?

And the lack of contingency planning about Pardew is baffling. When your manager is practically in tears and can't leave the dugout during his last home fixture of the season, maybe some discrete succession planning might be an idea if you are the MD of a football club. It was clear his position wasn't secure. "We didn't see it coming" isn't an excuse. Clown.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Danh1 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:41:49 AM
If we wait until the Summer to bring this "head coach" in and it's John Carver then it'll be the worst thing these despicable cunits have done yet!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:46:19 AM
Quote
the worst thing I could do is over-promise and under-deliver

The people who run NUFC these days could certainly never be accused of over-promising.
.....but under-delivering is their default setting..
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 02:02:11 AM
Seriously, how can any of us take what Charnley has to say as the truth?!

The whole f***ing lot of this statement f***ing stinks man. Seriously...what. the. f***?!

We are on 27 points, 9 less than at this stage last season.
If we have the same form as last season (baring other teams results in mind) we would still stay up by 7 points. (Very quick, rough estimate.)

That is literally how the club look at this season, now.

What they seem to fail to realise, is that momentum can be key, and presently we have the most momentum in the Premier League. Only we're one of the few teams who are stuck in reverse. f*** me if these c***s built a car the gear box would be like this:

R6   R4   R2
     Neutral
R5   R3   R1

We're on a s*** run of form, we have been beaten by our rivals (again), knocked out both cups and our best players are being touted about with moves to other clubs. The one bit of the statement which everyone knows is true is that they will gladly sell our key players in this month. So in a f***ing tiny squad, with no manager, the only thing we're looking to do is weaken for financial gain...because simply we don't get value for money in this transfer window, they can rip other peoples eyes out, and we're already safe in their mind.

That, they pretty much say in that statement. To even mention replacements and trusting they will get them is just a f***ing insult.

They don't need a full-time permanent appointment yet for the same reason. So if they can skimp by on John Carver they will, if it makes the end appointment any cheaper.

Communication with the fans will continue through the fan forums seemingly, and this is a f***ing joke in itself, because from odd's and sods I have read and heard, any time they are properly challenged they either spout s**** or remove people from the forum meetings. Signing communication will be silent as always. Profit figures will be released, prepared with glorified statistics and statements on the clubs financial growth and how superb we are being ran. Only to see the match-day revenue stay the same way because no-one is willing to give it up and show these c***s. Problem being, match-day revenue probably isn't all-that important anyways to clubs. Unless it means less TV revenue as a consequence.

They have no ambition and that's what this statement is. A statement of no ambition. The right appointment and backing now and within 4 games you could potentially be in the European spots. Without it you could be bottom. We had the mentality of being too good to go down the last time we went down, so it means f*** all to me that debate. We don't have the bollocks someone like Burnley has, and that showed when they should have beat us up here.

Finally, if these c***s want to be challenged and they want everyone to do that from the bottom up, well fine. The fans are obviously the bottom of this chain in their minds, so we should take this as our call to arms and get at the dipshit, fucktard, c***-traps.
Until these deceivers practise what they preach, I agree with everything written here - the facts speak for themselves and I prefer to stick to the mantra of ' By their actions shall ye know them..'
These people have conned the support base ever since KK was appointed and then walked(rightly) ; they mutter platitudes about building for the future but then reveal their true colours by selling decent players and not replacing them until it suits them which sets the club back constantly.
They have presided over a decline so great that even a little club(yes, they ARE a little club compared to us)like Southampton can out-spend us, out-achieve us and even make us look amateurs in the Academy field by regularly bringing through good youngsters after selling regular first-teamers to clubs like Liverpool...they are able to attract a REAL top manager in Koeman whereas we are scrapping around after people who are unemployed...we even get managers from Championship clubs saying thanks - but no thanks....
When these people start putting their money where Southampton's is, maybe I'll take what stool-pigeons like Charnley seriously instead of treating their spoutings with contempt....people should remember that old saying 'You can fool some of the people ALL of the time' and they are certainly doing that - don't forget, they have STs to sell and jam tomorrow platitiudes like this are aimed at just that.
Too many fans just simply WANT to believe so it so they can justify buying a ticket when their friends have given it up.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 02:30:22 AM
I think Charnley comes off ok in that interview, but there is no reason to believe any of it.

On the brighter side, it sounds like the obstacle is signing a target whose preference is a move during the summer. That's at least reassuring that the higher quality targets being mentioned in the press (Garde, Tuchel) are accurate and we might not end up with Curbishley on a 7 year deal. But Carver is going to fail. That is not in doubt. So when, not if, the club get sucked down into a relegation battle this season, then what?

And the lack of contingency planning about Pardew is baffling. When your manager is practically in tears and can't leave the dugout during his last home fixture of the season, maybe some discrete succession planning might be an idea if you are the MD of a football club. It was clear his position wasn't secure. "We didn't see it coming" isn't an excuse. Clown.

I don't agree that you can't believe a word of that. I don't see anything in there that is a stretch the imagination. The long term focus, the structure, the opting out of buying in January are all evident in their actions. I'm not sure he says anything that I don't think that's an outright lie there, I'll reread it again later, but I can't think of anything at first glance.

I do agree with you on succession planning, it's one of the core  principles of management in any decent corporation, especially as you get higher up the food chain. They keep insisting on describing the club as a business so why they haven't got this in place for one of their most important positions I don't know, especially as you say there were clear signs that it could happen.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 04:06:32 AM
if we had a proper local press they'd be asking why the club are treating ST holders with such disregard in effectively writing off this season (again)

our fans need to read that s*** in the paper before they'll actually realise it's happening :anguish:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 04:11:00 AM
if we had a proper local press they'd be asking why the club are treating ST holders with such disregard in effectively writing off this season (again)

our fans need to read that s*** in the paper before they'll actually realise it's happening :anguish:

I don't have a problem with them writing the season off again, IF and it's a big IF they have the right appointment lined up to take over in the summer. An appointment that will push the club forward.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 04:12:40 AM
if we had a proper local press they'd be asking why the club are treating ST holders with such disregard in effectively writing off this season (again)

our fans need to read that s*** in the paper before they'll actually realise it's happening :anguish:

I don't have a problem with them writing the season off again, IF and it's a big IF they have the right appointment lined up to take over in the summer. An appointment that will push the club forward.

no, you can accept it if the deal is put in place and announced now but it f***ing won't be and we all know it
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 05:06:01 AM
I don't agree that you can't believe a word of that. I don't see anything in there that is a stretch the imagination. The long term focus, the structure, the opting out of buying in January are all evident in their actions. I'm not sure he says anything that I don't think that's an outright lie there, I'll reread it again later, but I can't think of anything at first glance.

I suggest you direct your attention to this section:

Quote
ARE YOU GOING TO END UP WITH A YES MAN?

I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department.

But do I want someone in who will continually try to change our strategy or put obstacles in our way? Clearly not. They will have to aligned with what we are doing.

Outright lies. Enormous stretching of the imagination. Charnley says he doesn't want a yes man, but that the right person will be one who says "yes" to the Ashley doctrine, who says "yes" to his proscribed media role and who says "yes" to Carr's signings.

You could argue that it's all true in manager-speak, but history says that the upper echelons will say whatever it takes to appease the fans and that they have admitted openly that public statements are no more than PR exercises. Being a Newastle United fan these days requires critical literacy and a sound understanding of the language of persuasion.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 05:14:15 AM
The best part of this interview is the open disdain for "traditional, English" management. For two reasons:

Firstly, we won't get an English duffer like Pulis or Bruce or the like. We are almost certain to get a European manager who won't have an issue with the "head coach" structure.

More importantly, they've painted a very large target on themselves with regards to the very traditional, very English media - all those "good old boys" who now have a gift-wrapped criticism of Ashley's doctrine whenever anything less-than-fantastic happens. Something like "these foreign models don't work in England" will be the first thing many pundits - ex-players and ex-managers and ex-owners and friends and agents and anyone who talks to journalists - will say. And while we will inwardly groan about how shallow the analysis might be, it will be a source of pressure on, and irritation to, Mike Ashley and whoever is spouting his lies to the press at the time...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:02:44 AM
I don't agree that you can't believe a word of that. I don't see anything in there that is a stretch the imagination. The long term focus, the structure, the opting out of buying in January are all evident in their actions. I'm not sure he says anything that I don't think that's an outright lie there, I'll reread it again later, but I can't think of anything at first glance.

I suggest you direct your attention to this section:

Quote
ARE YOU GOING TO END UP WITH A YES MAN?

I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department.

But do I want someone in who will continually try to change our strategy or put obstacles in our way? Clearly not. They will have to aligned with what we are doing.

Outright lies. Enormous stretching of the imagination. Charnley says he doesn't want a yes man, but that the right person will be one who says "yes" to the Ashley doctrine, who says "yes" to his proscribed media role and who says "yes" to Carr's signings.

You could argue that it's all true in manager-speak, but history says that the upper echelons will say whatever it takes to appease the fans and that they have admitted openly that public statements are no more than PR exercises. Being a Newastle United fan these days requires critical literacy and a sound understanding of the language of persuasion.
I'm not sure. he says he wants someone to buy into their philosophy and show a united front not question the club policy in public.there is nothing wrong with that. We don't know how Pardew was behind the scenes we presume he was a yes man but we don't truly know if he questioned club policy or process in private. One of the reasons they gave for sacking Hughton was that he was too much of a push over and just accepted things.

I think the picture he paints could entirely true it could also be a complete lie, but we don't know for sure, nor will we likely ever know. He is absolutely right though that surounding yourselves with yes men will get you nowhere in business, Ashley is a multi billionaire he could never have gotten that successful in business by recruiting yes men all the time, maybe NUFC is his exemption who knows.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: matta on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:15:15 AM
no future in ashley/charnleys dreaming.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:16:00 AM
Apparantley Pardew was "the right man".

Quote
"During the difficult periods our focus was on supporting Alan. I hope people are starting to realise now that when we feel we have the right person in that position, indeed any position, our focus is on supporting them in order that together we can ride through the rough periods that, inevitably, come."


...which really isn't a surprise as Charnley loves good football and dignity.

Quote
"For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: James on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:56:02 AM
This statement looks designed to set out a clear template on the new manager 's remit before the appointment is made.

It may be that a potential new manager could be willing to work under the club system, but wants it clear on the outset where each responsibility falls.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: James on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:59:44 AM
Apparantley Pardew was "the right man".

Quote
"During the difficult periods our focus was on supporting Alan. I hope people are starting to realise now that when we feel we have the right person in that position, indeed any position, our focus is on supporting them in order that together we can ride through the rough periods that, inevitably, come."


...which really isn't a surprise as Charnley loves good football and dignity.

Quote
"For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

Look at it through the eyes of a potential new employee, they would want support and stability to help them do their job, and so it should be until the day they are sacked. But at least if they are sacked the senior management would have tried to help them, at least initially.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: James on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 07:02:31 AM
Overall, more positivity than negativity in that, although actions are better than words.

There are bower now some key KPIs that Charnley has accepted responsibility for and can from now on be judged on that basis.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 07:12:35 AM
what's the longest anyone can remember a PL club taking to appoint either a new manager or confirming a caretaker to the end of the season etc.?

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 07:30:18 AM
no future in ashley/charnleys dreaming.
I used to think football was about supporting your local city against its rivals, entertainment and trying to win stuff. Clearly had it all wrong - obviously it is about how much money we generate for the owner. Silly me.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ads on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 08:18:26 AM
what's the longest anyone can remember a PL club taking to appoint either a new manager or confirming a caretaker to the end of the season etc.?

Newcastle United, 2014/15 season. I remember it well, completely took the p*ss.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 08:55:18 AM
From Nufc.com

Quote
Talking head

Three weeks into the search for a new Newcastle United manager/coach/scapegoat, club MD Lee Charnley has broken his silence in a question and answer session with the Evening Chronicle that's reproduced online here

Until this point, Charnley followed a similar path to owner Mike Ashley, with club-published minutes from fans forums the sole output from anyone in an executive role at SJP since Derek Llambias quit in June 2013.

Fourteen questions and fourteen answers later though, it's a struggle to find anything new to chew over - with nothing of consequence regarding the vacant position, other than the equivalent of a "work in progress" sign.

Certainly anyone looking to be reinvigorated for the remainder of this season - or for a reason not to post off that direct debit cancellation - will be disappointed. A mere 16 games to go?, why the season's almost over!

An apparent retread of the job description devised for Alan Pardew following the departure of Chris Hughton is aired, while there's no attempt made to communicate on squad specifics eg the status of Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Jonas Gutierrez, Facundo Ferryra, Papiss Cisse etc.

In that regard, this Q & A differs from the February 2013 Chronicle one with Llambias, when he commented on specific players including Loic Remy and Demba Ba.

"I can’t envisage any player we want to retain leaving" (in January), if as we know, every player is for sale at the right price, then retaining them is the very last thing they'll do if the asking price is met.

And as for a line about being "difficult sellers", the loss of Yohan Cabaye to PSG was hardly complicated - except for the bit about JFK screwing up the transfer fee....

The issue of how a coach conducts themselves is flagged up as important, yet he claims nothing but total support for Pardew throughout his time in charge - despite the fact he felt it necessary to fine the guy £100K and issue a formal warning over his touchline antics at Hull.

The thorny issue of communication is also revisited, with an admission that the apologist role handed to Pardew affected his chances of winning over the fanbase.

But a vow to look at how the club communicates is in reality no different to comments from his predecessor given to the Chronicle in February 2009 - minus the apology then for failing to keep supporters informed.

Paranoia over saying anything that can be used against him (remember that Llambias's declared intention in 2009 was to emulate Aston Villa) makes this 2015 attempt mostly meaningless. Speaking but not speaking.

The MD will be judged on the quality of his appointment and whether the managerial structure that he advocates succeeds in the eyes of supporters.

Everything else - including what publishing the Q & A says about the current relationship between the club and the Chronicle - is window dressing.

PS: Charnley on Pardew:

"....we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field."

December 2010, 11th in the Premier League
January 2015. 11th in the Premier League


pretty much sums it all up.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 08:55:45 AM
what's the longest anyone can remember a PL club taking to appoint either a new manager or confirming a caretaker to the end of the season etc.?



I think I read in the last week that it was about 12 days and we were already at 18 days at that point.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 08:58:14 AM
I don't agree that you can't believe a word of that. I don't see anything in there that is a stretch the imagination. The long term focus, the structure, the opting out of buying in January are all evident in their actions. I'm not sure he says anything that I don't think that's an outright lie there, I'll reread it again later, but I can't think of anything at first glance.

I suggest you direct your attention to this section:

Quote
ARE YOU GOING TO END UP WITH A YES MAN?

I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department.

But do I want someone in who will continually try to change our strategy or put obstacles in our way? Clearly not. They will have to aligned with what we are doing.

Outright lies. Enormous stretching of the imagination. Charnley says he doesn't want a yes man, but that the right person will be one who says "yes" to the Ashley doctrine, who says "yes" to his proscribed media role and who says "yes" to Carr's signings.

You could argue that it's all true in manager-speak, but history says that the upper echelons will say whatever it takes to appease the fans and that they have admitted openly that public statements are no more than PR exercises. Being a Newastle United fan these days requires critical literacy and a sound understanding of the language of persuasion.
I'm not sure. he says he wants someone to buy into their philosophy and show a united front not question the club policy in public.there is nothing wrong with that. We don't know how Pardew was behind the scenes we presume he was a yes man but we don't truly know if he questioned club policy or process in private. One of the reasons they gave for sacking Hughton was that he was too much of a push over and just accepted things.

I think the picture he paints could entirely true it could also be a complete lie, but we don't know for sure, nor will we likely ever know. He is absolutely right though that surounding yourselves with yes men will get you nowhere in business, Ashley is a multi billionaire he could never have gotten that successful in business by recruiting yes men all the time, maybe NUFC is his exemption who knows.


I'm quite baffled by your failure to see through the bullshit here afar, taking everything at face value without looking at the facts. Quite clearly from that statement Lee Charnley is as much a yes man as you could imagine. I know LLambias suggested that Hughton was sacked because he was too soft ("you don't know how horrible we can be"), but in reality he DID challenge their view that some of the more important players in the dressing room, the ones that made that relegation/promotion team what it was (such as Kevin Nolan and to a lesser extent Joey Barton and Andy Carroll) were expendable and held too much power. Hughton challenged them much more than Pardew ever did, they didn't like it, and he got the boot.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 08:59:57 AM
what's the longest anyone can remember a PL club taking to appoint either a new manager or confirming a caretaker to the end of the season etc.?



Parkes at Blackburn did over two months before Sven agreed to go(and then told them to f*** off and Woy couldnt go til the Summer so he caretakered on for 6 months after too)

Staurt Gray did a few months at Southamton too before they bothered to appoint a manager. Imagine David Pleat has minced about Spurs aimlessly for a while at some point too
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Hudson on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:23:34 AM
Talk about Stockholm syndrome.

I just cannot get my head around the fact that people actually believe any of the statement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:26:57 AM
Man. It would be so nice to believe any of that s****.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:30:14 AM
The moment he said Pardew was the right man and they care about style of play I said he had made a very bad point and promptly went home.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:34:05 AM
From Nufc.com

Quote
Talking head

Three weeks into the search for a new Newcastle United manager/coach/scapegoat, club MD Lee Charnley has broken his silence in a question and answer session with the Evening Chronicle that's reproduced online here

Until this point, Charnley followed a similar path to owner Mike Ashley, with club-published minutes from fans forums the sole output from anyone in an executive role at SJP since Derek Llambias quit in June 2013.

Fourteen questions and fourteen answers later though, it's a struggle to find anything new to chew over - with nothing of consequence regarding the vacant position, other than the equivalent of a "work in progress" sign.

Certainly anyone looking to be reinvigorated for the remainder of this season - or for a reason not to post off that direct debit cancellation - will be disappointed. A mere 16 games to go?, why the season's almost over!

An apparent retread of the job description devised for Alan Pardew following the departure of Chris Hughton is aired, while there's no attempt made to communicate on squad specifics eg the status of Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Jonas Gutierrez, Facundo Ferryra, Papiss Cisse etc.

In that regard, this Q & A differs from the February 2013 Chronicle one with Llambias, when he commented on specific players including Loic Remy and Demba Ba.

"I can’t envisage any player we want to retain leaving" (in January), if as we know, every player is for sale at the right price, then retaining them is the very last thing they'll do if the asking price is met.

And as for a line about being "difficult sellers", the loss of Yohan Cabaye to PSG was hardly complicated - except for the bit about JFK screwing up the transfer fee....

The issue of how a coach conducts themselves is flagged up as important, yet he claims nothing but total support for Pardew throughout his time in charge - despite the fact he felt it necessary to fine the guy £100K and issue a formal warning over his touchline antics at Hull.

The thorny issue of communication is also revisited, with an admission that the apologist role handed to Pardew affected his chances of winning over the fanbase.

But a vow to look at how the club communicates is in reality no different to comments from his predecessor given to the Chronicle in February 2009 - minus the apology then for failing to keep supporters informed.

Paranoia over saying anything that can be used against him (remember that Llambias's declared intention in 2009 was to emulate Aston Villa) makes this 2015 attempt mostly meaningless. Speaking but not speaking.

The MD will be judged on the quality of his appointment and whether the managerial structure that he advocates succeeds in the eyes of supporters.

Everything else - including what publishing the Q & A says about the current relationship between the club and the Chronicle - is window dressing.

PS: Charnley on Pardew:

"....we moved on significantly as a club during his four years, on and off the field."

December 2010, 11th in the Premier League
January 2015. 11th in the Premier League


pretty much sums it all up.

Best article they've had up in a good while.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:37:05 AM
The moment he said Pardew was the right man and they care about style of play I said he had made a very bad point and promptly went home.

'Back in a minute ma, just popping out to read the Chronicle'
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:51:55 AM
Talk about Stockholm syndrome.

I just cannot get my head around the fact that people actually believe any of the statement.

Dunno, i firmly believe we wont be signing anyone
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: arnonel on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:58:30 AM
"Contrary to popular belief we don’t disregard people’s views – however our intention and focus and what we always aim to do is make decisions that we feel are in the best interests for the football club."

Can someone explain to me what he means by "football club"? I think he means in the best interest of players and staff to get their big fat pay cheques.

Would be great if he meant football club in the broader sense. If so, he wouldnt go against popular belief.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:02:13 AM
I'm not half as pessimistic about this as most on here.

We already knew all the things he has said, they are the reasons we feel the club has very little ambition. He's not lying at all, he's just stating things we already knew and basically hate about how our club is run.

In a way, I prefer it. I'm fairly happy with what he has said about their ideas for a new manager, not particularly happy about his time-scales or stance on player recruitment.

Basically, get a decent manager in and I'll start enjoying football matches again. That's mostly what this is about for me; the quality of the football. I want to enjoy watching us play again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:04:51 AM
It's noticeable that there's no mention of even the possibility of relegation - all very well waiting until the summer to get the right man but that becomes a hell of a lot trickier if you're not in the Premier League anymore.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:34:30 AM
I'm not half as pessimistic about this as most on here.

We already knew all the things he has said, they are the reasons we feel the club has very little ambition. He's not lying at all, he's just stating things we already knew and basically hate about how our club is run.

In a way, I prefer it. I'm fairly happy with what he has said about their ideas for a new manager, not particularly happy about his time-scales or stance on player recruitment.

Basically, get a decent manager in and I'll start enjoying football matches again. That's mostly what this is about for me; the quality of the football. I want to enjoy watching us play again.

It's not so much the lies as it is the total disregard for the paying fan base and the confirmation that we indeed have no ambition.
It is one thing to come out and make these confirmations and stick to their guns, but for us to be expected to just accept them is a sign of the very, very sad times.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:46:23 AM
We've won 1 game in 9 and it's like the club don't even know about it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:52:39 AM
We've won 1 game in 9 and it's like the club don't even know about it.

Well we know they don't think along those lines, it's basically relegation v survival each season. Short-term runs of results won't be too important.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:00:13 AM
We've won 1 game in 9 and it's like the club don't even know about it.

Maybe it came as a surprise to them.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ElCid on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:00:28 AM
Overall, more positivity than negativity in that, although actions are better than words.

There are bower now some key KPIs that Charnley has accepted responsibility for and can from now on be judged on that basis.

Don't know how you can see any positivity in that - all it does is fully demonstrate that until Ashley is gone this club has no ambition full stop. I am so pleased that I stopped my season ticket last year after 40 year. And for some fans to say there is positivity in a serious of answers trying to justify the reasons for being no more than average just totally bewilders me - sad sad times.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Overall, more positivity than negativity in that, although actions are better than words.

There are bower now some key KPIs that Charnley has accepted responsibility for and can from now on be judged on that basis.

Don't know how you can see any positivity in that - all it does is fully demonstrate that until Ashley is gone this club has no ambition full stop. I am so pleased that I stopped my season ticket last year after 40 year. And for some fans to say there is positivity in a serious of answers trying to justify the reasons for being no more than average just totally bewilders me - sad sad times.

Yeah its basically "steady as she goes" until mike decides otherwise, while all along taking season ticket money and making the club uncompetitive in the league.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:05:03 AM
He would have been better off saying nowt, what a waste of words. This reveals nowt new and is simply waffle.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:09:30 AM
Would have been nice to get some clarification on our approach to the cup competitions.  Was that a Pardew thing or was it an Ashley thing?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:10:39 AM
He would have been better off saying nowt, what a waste of words. This reveals nowt new and is simply waffle.

If anything for me all this has done is prove the Chronicle is firmly back on the clubs pocket, completely empty interview without asking anything the club might not like. The pointless Rangers question was already done so an easy out for LC
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:12:00 AM
He would have been better off saying nowt, what a waste of words. This reveals nowt new and is simply waffle.

Well we now have confirmation Carr is legitimately involved in getting the new man in. That was only speculated up until now. Pretty big deal IMO.

Carr has constantly delivered with decent players, and he will want to see them utilised well.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:13:15 AM
Would have been nice to get some clarification on our approach to the cup competitions.  Was that a Pardew thing or was it an Ashley thing?

Ashley. 100% Ashley.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TruToon94 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:28:29 AM
Would have been nice to get some clarification on our approach to the cup competitions.  Was that a Pardew thing or was it an Ashley thing?

Ashley. 100% Ashley.

Look the fact is Ashley probably doesn't really do that much with the club all the time, it's not the way the position works. He has Charnley in charge (and it seems Carr is the go to man for players) and even Keegan said that he has his men in place that he listens to albeit ones who are crap.

It's my honest belief that Pardew with all his s*** about the Europa League covered up his own failings as a manager by claiming that it's all the cups fault for the drastic shitness that came about. He communicated that to Charnley who did the same in turn to Ashley and so the club thinks, "ah the cups suck". The fact that we improved the next year would be seen as vindicating that. If a decent manager came in and had a decent cup run and maintained the league form I believe the club would be all for cup runs.

Pardew was far more poisonous than people realize and has damn near destroyed every club he's been at. We can blame Ashley (correctly) for a ton of things but Pardew subtly lowered expectations across the board with that one season that seemingly gave him invincibility. I believe the next manager will hopefully rectify that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:34:20 AM
Alan Pardew would've done anything Ashley wanted.

If a cup run was anywhere near the club agenda there is now way AP would've put out Mickey Mouse sides every time.

No doubt in my mind that the directive was from Ashley.

If there's no money in them, there's no point in them.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Deckard 13 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:35:58 AM
I love our "why buy what you need now when something cheaper is only 12 months away". Then the cheaper or " value" option doesn't want to come anyway so you mark the date in your calander 12 months from now when the next one might be available and go into another season short.

Maybe a decent defensive partnership is in the plans. Lee will have it sorted in 2018 after consulting his crystal ball. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:41:26 AM
Going to be a piece at the weekend about how Charnley sees the rest of the season panning out with Carver in charge apparently.

Edit: ...should they decide to wait until the summer for the new bloke.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Chase on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:41:38 AM
He would have been better off saying nowt, what a waste of words. This reveals nowt new and is simply waffle.

Well we now have confirmation Carr is legitimately involved in getting the new man in. That was only speculated up until now. Pretty big deal IMO.

Carr has constantly delivered with decent players, and he will want to see them utilised well.

That's a fair point, I see Charnleys role in the new manager being purely financial/HR type role and in reality the choice of the new manager maybe coming down to who Carr thinks will be work with the players he likes to sign.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:43:07 AM
Going to be a piece at the weekend about how Charnley sees the rest of the season panning out with Carver in charge apparently.

Great. Bottom 5 here we come.

I'd actually love for us to go down just to f*** these heinous arseholes in charge of our once fine establishment.

See how f***ing smug they are then about when to buy and when not to.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:45:01 AM
Going to be a piece at the weekend about how Charnley sees the rest of the season panning out with Carver in charge apparently.
So they are confirming on Saturday that Carver until end of the season?

Feel sorry for any season ticket holders in the case. Real s*** sandwich
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:49:39 AM
Carver till end of season, keeps us up just. Is hired as "the club is stable, the lads are really enjoying working with John, he's got a good connection to the area"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:08:01 PM
Going to be a piece at the weekend about how Charnley sees the rest of the season panning out with Carver in charge apparently.
So they are confirming on Saturday that Carver until end of the season?

Feel sorry for any season ticket holders in the case. Real s*** sandwich

No, not necessarily. I mean the question was asked that if they don't appoint someone until the summer, how do they see Carver coping. Presumably the answer is a lot more positive than most of us see it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:08:44 PM
Going to be a piece at the weekend about how Charnley sees the rest of the season panning out with Carver in charge apparently.
So they are confirming on Saturday that Carver until end of the season?

Feel sorry for any season ticket holders in the case. Real s*** sandwich

No, not necessarily. I mean the question was asked that if they don't appoint someone until the summer, how do they see Carver coping. Presumably the answer is a lot more positive than most of us see it.
:anguish:

So sick of this football club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mistle17 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:09:17 PM
Going to be a piece at the weekend about how Charnley sees the rest of the season panning out with Carver in charge apparently.

Great. Bottom 5 here we come.

I'd actually love for us to go down just to f*** these heinous arseholes in charge of our once fine establishment.

See how f***ing smug they are then about when to buy and when not to.

I feel the same at this stage.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:13:55 PM
Carver till end of season, keeps us up just. Is hired as "the club is stable, the lads are really enjoying working with John, he's got a good connection to the area"

This is one of the more possible disaster scenarios. I'm hoping that if we decide to wait until the end of the season we get a pre-contract with the new man signed now. Waiting without knowing would be a huge risk.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:42:48 PM
I just don't get how anyone thinks they would get rid of carver in the summer if he keeps us up. It's the cheap option and if fans are still getting tickets why would they change?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:54:35 PM
I just don't get how anyone thinks they would get rid of carver in the summer if he keeps us up.

Because he'll blatantly be absolutely crap and even those idiots will recognise that form over a full season will lead to relegation.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:58:51 PM
I just don't get how anyone thinks they would get rid of carver in the summer if he keeps us up.

Because he'll blatantly be absolutely crap and even those idiots will recognise that form over a full season will lead to relegation.

Plus he would devalue the squad similar to Pardew. It would make far more sense financially to bring in a coach who can get the best out of players being brought in by Carr. Is that likely to be Carver? I doubt it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 12:58:55 PM
He will, but as the previous statement alluded to, they had no plans to bin Pardew. He may well explode PR wise aye, but if he keeps us up, job done
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:02:05 PM
Carver till end of season, keeps us up just. Is hired as "the club is stable, the lads are really enjoying working with John, he's got a good connection to the area"

Increasingly looking like that's the way we're headed.

I admire those who are trying to retain optimism that this time we'll actually do the right thing, but the historical evidence is all pointing in the other direction.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:03:29 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:05:00 PM
It's all going to go tits skyward. Again and people are still going to 'suPorT dA TeAm' because these c***s Are master manipulators. The amount of people taking this at face value is staggering.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:09:42 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.

And yet AP took us from 5th to 16th and was never in danger apparently.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:10:23 PM
I just don't get how anyone thinks they would get rid of carver in the summer if he keeps us up. It's the cheap option and if fans are still getting tickets why would they change?

£1,200,000 per Premier League finishing position. They want the manager to be bad enough to not qualify for Europe, but not bad enough to finish bottom half.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:11:41 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.

And yet AP took us from 5th to 16th and was never in danger apparently.

Hughton won something like 1 in 13 as caretaker and got the job permanently the next season.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:13:24 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.

And yet AP took us from 5th to 16th and was never in danger apparently.

He didn't, though.

We were 12th when he took over, finished 12th that season, 5th the next, then 16th, then 10th. That obviously constituted enough of a track record (to them) to consolidate his position as someone cheap who'd solidly maintain PL status. Carver can't emulate that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:13:56 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.

And yet AP took us from 5th to 16th and was never in danger apparently.

Hughton won something like 1 in 13 as caretaker and got the job permanently the next season.

Is it 'let's talk rubbish' day or something?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Varadi on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:15:00 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.

And yet AP took us from 5th to 16th and was never in danger apparently.

Hughton won something like 1 in 13 as caretaker and got the job permanently the next season.

Is it 'let's talk rubbish' day or something?

Is it? Sorry, didn't realise

Good job on getting it started though!

 :)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Andymc1 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:15:26 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.

And yet AP took us from 5th to 16th and was never in danger apparently.

Hughton won something like 1 in 13 as caretaker and got the job permanently the next season.

Is it 'let's talk rubbish' day or something?

:lol: :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:15:35 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.

And yet AP took us from 5th to 16th and was never in danger apparently.

He didn't, though.

We were 12th when he took over, finished 12th that season, 5th the next, then 16th, then 10th. That obviously constituted enough of a track record to consolidate his position as someone to solidly maintain PL status. Carver can't emulate that.

Carver would argue that he'd managed in a time of upheaval without having the ability to confirm his permanent position to the playing squad etc.

We also got bashed by Liverpool, Sunderland etc during that drop to 16th and they'd never had a replacement lined up for the bloke so it's not unlike them to do ridiculous things.

Depends which side of bed Ashley gets out of.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:19:18 PM
Of course that's before you even factor in that Carver's PR sense makes Pardew look like Bill Clinton.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:29:20 PM
Of course that's before you even factor in that Carver's PR sense makes Pardew look like Bill Clinton.

:lol: Fair.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 01:44:40 PM
So the 25, let's name them:

Krul - Crisp packet hands
Elliott - Not good enough         
Alnwick - Not good enough

Haidara - Questionable
Santon - Questionable
Dummett - Not good enough
Janmaat - Radge
Raylor - Not good enough
Saylor - Not good enough
Colo - Questionable
Williamson - Not good enough

Gouffran - Not good enough
Obertan - Not good enough
Siem de Jong - Unknown
Abeid - Promising youngster
Tiote - Questionable
Sissoko - Likely to be January 2015 key sale
Cabella - Questionable
Anita - Questionable
Colback - Questionable

Ayoze - Likely to be January 2016 key sale
Cisse - Dodgy knee
Riviere - Not good enough
Armstrong - Likely to be January 2018 key sale
Ferrera - unknown

I'll let you all do the squad analysis (i.e. fit / good enough / likely to be sold) for February 1st...

Also include Aarons who will be January 2017 key sale.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 02:49:04 PM
I don't agree that you can't believe a word of that. I don't see anything in there that is a stretch the imagination. The long term focus, the structure, the opting out of buying in January are all evident in their actions. I'm not sure he says anything that I don't think that's an outright lie there, I'll reread it again later, but I can't think of anything at first glance.

I suggest you direct your attention to this section:

Quote
ARE YOU GOING TO END UP WITH A YES MAN?

I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department.

But do I want someone in who will continually try to change our strategy or put obstacles in our way? Clearly not. They will have to aligned with what we are doing.

Outright lies. Enormous stretching of the imagination. Charnley says he doesn't want a yes man, but that the right person will be one who says "yes" to the Ashley doctrine, who says "yes" to his proscribed media role and who says "yes" to Carr's signings.

You could argue that it's all true in manager-speak, but history says that the upper echelons will say whatever it takes to appease the fans and that they have admitted openly that public statements are no more than PR exercises. Being a Newastle United fan these days requires critical literacy and a sound understanding of the language of persuasion.
I'm not sure. he says he wants someone to buy into their philosophy and show a united front not question the club policy in public.there is nothing wrong with that. We don't know how Pardew was behind the scenes we presume he was a yes man but we don't truly know if he questioned club policy or process in private. One of the reasons they gave for sacking Hughton was that he was too much of a push over and just accepted things.

I think the picture he paints could entirely true it could also be a complete lie, but we don't know for sure, nor will we likely ever know. He is absolutely right though that surounding yourselves with yes men will get you nowhere in business, Ashley is a multi billionaire he could never have gotten that successful in business by recruiting yes men all the time, maybe NUFC is his exemption who knows.


I'm quite baffled by your failure to see through the bullshit here afar, taking everything at face value without looking at the facts. Quite clearly from that statement Lee Charnley is as much a yes man as you could imagine. I know LLambias suggested that Hughton was sacked because he was too soft ("you don't know how horrible we can be"), but in reality he DID challenge their view that some of the more important players in the dressing room, the ones that made that relegation/promotion team what it was (such as Kevin Nolan and to a lesser extent Joey Barton and Andy Carroll) were expendable and held too much power. Hughton challenged them much more than Pardew ever did, they didn't like it, and he got the boot.

I'm not going to disagree with you at all on that, and it would appear that I'm being a bit naive to take what they say as fact.

But I'm not really saying that. I'm saying I think this communication is a step in the right direction even if the content is not everything we want it to be. I also firmly feel that they fully believe most of what they say here. Is there spin of course there is, are the words carefully chosen, considering they rarely talk to the media then of course they are. But the general gist of it is what they believe in and a lot of it makes sense; The long term planning, making sure we make the right appointment rather than a quick or fast one, supporting the manager you have and believe in (despite what we feel about the man), being prepared to make unpopular calls to preserve that long term vision and portraying a united front in public with the head coach buying into the overall vision (again even if this vision is not one we support).

However there is a lot in there also that I don't agree with, the lack of succession planning, the lack of flexibility to admit you may need short term fixes like getting a better caretaker in than carver or buying/loaning a CB to get us to the end of the season still in the Prem and I'm struggling to see where our progress has been on the field in the last 4 years of Pardew. I also want to see that mission statement, and see if we are aligned to it, because we are a very profitable business or they have done a lousy job of planning and the direction needs to change because we have not progressed on the field in the time that Ashley has been at the club.

In terms of yes man and Hughton: Charnley comes over to us as just a puppet for Ashley, for sure, but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. What they clearly want is for the process and direction not to be questioned in the public arena, and Charnley knows how to stay on message. Where they came from for Hughton was perhaps that he didn't push hard enough to retain the likes of Nolan, and just accepted that situation despite believing in retaining their services and hinting in public that he did, I don't know that's pure speculation. In any organisation you can't have splits in what is shown to the public otherwise you are doomed, I don't have a problem with them looking like yes men in public as long as that's not what's going on behind the scenes and he's clearly saying that that is the case, obviously we have to trust that he's telling the truth here but as you imply we have no evidence or reason to believe him at all.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 02:57:10 PM
So the 25, let's name them:

Krul - Crisp packet hands
Elliott - Not good enough         
Alnwick - Not good enough

Haidara - Questionable
Santon - Questionable
Dummett - Not good enough
Janmaat - Radge
Raylor - Not good enough
Saylor - Not good enough
Colo - Questionable
Williamson - Not good enough

Gouffran - Not good enough
Obertan - Not good enough
Siem de Jong - Unknown
Abeid - Promising youngster
Tiote - Questionable
Sissoko - Likely to be January 2015 key sale
Cabella - Questionable
Anita - Questionable
Colback - Questionable

Ayoze - Likely to be January 2016 key sale
Cisse - Dodgy knee
Riviere - Not good enough
Armstrong - Likely to be January 2018 key sale
Ferrera - unknown

I'll let you all do the squad analysis (i.e. fit / good enough / likely to be sold) for February 1st...

Also include Aarons who will be January 2017 key sale.

pretty negative overall assessment that heza, then again it depends on what they're supposed to be "good enough" for
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 03:02:36 PM
So the 25, let's name them:

Krul - Crisp packet hands
Elliott - Not good enough         
Alnwick - Not good enough

Haidara - Questionable
Santon - Questionable
Dummett - Not good enough
Janmaat - Radge
Raylor - Not good enough
Saylor - Not good enough
Colo - Questionable
Williamson - Not good enough

Gouffran - Not good enough
Obertan - Not good enough
Siem de Jong - Unknown
Abeid - Promising youngster
Tiote - Questionable
Sissoko - Likely to be January 2015 key sale
Cabella - Questionable
Anita - Questionable
Colback - Questionable

Ayoze - Likely to be January 2016 key sale
Cisse - Dodgy knee
Riviere - Not good enough
Armstrong - Likely to be January 2018 key sale
Ferrera - unknown

I'll let you all do the squad analysis (i.e. fit / good enough / likely to be sold) for February 1st...

Also include Aarons who will be January 2017 key sale.

pretty negative overall assessment that heza, then again it depends on what they're supposed to be "good enough" for

I just put the players in not the descriptions.  O0
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 03:19:34 PM
I'm not half as pessimistic about this as most on here.

We already knew all the things he has said, they are the reasons we feel the club has very little ambition. He's not lying at all, he's just stating things we already knew and basically hate about how our club is run.

In a way, I prefer it. I'm fairly happy with what he has said about their ideas for a new manager, not particularly happy about his time-scales or stance on player recruitment.

Basically, get a decent manager in and I'll start enjoying football matches again. That's mostly what this is about for me; the quality of the football. I want to enjoy watching us play again.

You've summed this up way better than I have managed, agree here. I'm coming from basically the same place.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 03:36:51 PM
Can't help but feel it would be useful if you could believe a single word the club said about anything.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Andymc1 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 03:38:58 PM
I've got his home address if anyone wants to send him a heads up re: the new manager :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 03:39:45 PM
I'll have that, if you please.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 03:48:11 PM
I've got his home address if anyone wants to send him a heads up re: the new manager :lol:

Has he moved recently :shifty:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 03:54:25 PM
I've got his home address if anyone wants to send him a heads up re: the new manager :lol:

DM me brother :pow:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jimmymag on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 05:55:19 PM
Of course that's before you even factor in that Carver's PR sense makes Pardew look like Bill Clinton.

What, with his dick in some tart's mouth?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:08:13 PM
:bob:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:14:37 PM
I've got his home address if anyone wants to send him a heads up re: the new manager :lol:
I am guessing it is somewhere near Mike's ringpiece.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:17:14 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.
Pardew wasn't even close to getting sacked despite winning 5 games in in the calendar year until October, as well as conducting himself horribly on the touch line which apparently is important to Charnley as well. Never ever rule out us going for the cheap option, even if it might just be because we're waiting another season for someone to become slightly cheaper.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:20:30 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.
Pardew wasn't even close to getting sacked despite winning 5 games in in the calendar year until October, as well as conducting himself horribly on the touch line which apparently is important to Charnley as well. Never ever rule out us going for the cheap option, even if it might just be because we're waiting another season for someone to become slightly cheaper.
I agree with this sentiment.

Let's not forget the classic line, once we get the person we think is right we stick by them :anguish:

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:23:21 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.
Pardew wasn't even close to getting sacked despite winning 5 games in in the calendar year until October, as well as conducting himself horribly on the touch line which apparently is important to Charnley as well. Never ever rule out us going for the cheap option, even if it might just be because we're waiting another season for someone to become slightly cheaper.
I agree with this sentiment.

Let's not forget the classic line, once we get the person we think is right we stick by them :anguish:


Also, the "promote from within" statement from one of the fans forums IIRC.
The good thing about Carver is that he wouldn't get the same protection from the media that Pardew got and he'd be an even bigger train wreck so I can't see how he could possibly last an entire season. However, that'd probably mean fast tracking Beardsley's UEFA badges until the rest of next season meaning yet another write off.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:24:46 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.
Pardew wasn't even close to getting sacked despite winning 5 games in in the calendar year until October, as well as conducting himself horribly on the touch line which apparently is important to Charnley as well. Never ever rule out us going for the cheap option, even if it might just be because we're waiting another season for someone to become slightly cheaper.
I agree with this sentiment.

Let's not forget the classic line, once we get the person we think is right we stick by them :anguish:


Also, the "promote from within" statement from one of the fans forums IIRC.
The good thing about Carver is that he wouldn't get the same protection from the media that Pardew got and he'd be an even bigger train wreck so I can't see how he could possibly last an entire season. However, that'd probably mean fast tracking Beardsley's UEFA badges until the rest of next season meaning yet another write off.
If Charnley is to be believed they don't really care about media opinion.

I hope you and Ronaldo are right though.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:28:28 PM
Should Carver take us from 9th to 17th in 5 months there's no way he'd get the job.
Pardew wasn't even close to getting sacked despite winning 5 games in in the calendar year until October, as well as conducting himself horribly on the touch line which apparently is important to Charnley as well. Never ever rule out us going for the cheap option

Exactly my point. Sacking Pardew wasn't the cheap option. It's totally different with Carver.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: STM on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:33:43 PM
Cant imagine for a second Carver and co would be on much money and thats presuming they dont have release clauses allowing us to make the chop cheaply. Knowing us we are probably trying to flog our coaching staff to Palace or elsewhere, to make a quick buck.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 06:36:38 PM
I hate this guy so much.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 07:40:21 PM
I don't think charnley can be accused of lying but every time he opens his mouth I truly hate and despair everything he says but the thing that confuses me the most is the fact that people still buy season tickets on the back of his and Ashleys terrible philosophy that making money is a lot more important than putting a good honest attacking team on the pitch that tries to win football matches.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 08:23:55 PM
He caught someone sharing coke with a 16 year old at the toilets in 9 bar on the staff party.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 08:45:05 PM
He caught someone sharing coke with a 16 year old at the toilets in 9 bar on the staff party.

 :lol: what
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:21:02 PM
He caught someone sharing coke with a 16 year old at the toilets in 9 bar on the staff party.

 :lol: what

I second that! What? :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 09:45:46 PM
He caught someone sharing coke with a 16 year old at the toilets in 9 bar on the staff party.

Nowt wrong with having a sip of coke in the bogs. Pepsi mind...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mofo on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:15:21 PM
**** BULLSHIT ALERT ****

Got told today from a supplier that Laudrup is having a second interview this week. The hp is apparently good friends with Carr. The stumbling block is Laudrup not having the final say on transfers but he expects him to sign a 5 year deal.

Like I said most probably bs but thought I would share.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:16:09 PM
**** BULLSHIT ALERT ****

Got told today from a supplier that Laudrup is having a second interview this week. The hp is apparently good friends with Carr. The stumbling block is Laudrup not having the final say on transfers but he expects him to sign a 5 year deal.

Like I said most probably bs but thought I would share.

 :frantic:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:21:00 PM
Not sure on Laudrup at all, but at least the football should be a damn sight better.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:21:30 PM
Would take.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:27:16 PM
Wew.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:34:08 PM
Not sure on Laudrup at all, but at least the football should be a damn sight better.

My only reservation on him is how often he leaves after one season :lol: I believe in his ability to manage and coach.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:34:37 PM
Not sure on Laudrup at all, but at least the football should be a damn sight better.

My only reservation on him is how often he leaves after one season :lol: I believe in his ability to manage and coach.

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:35:36 PM
Laudrup would be a f***ing Shakespearean tragedy waiting to happen with us.  Gullit all over again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:36:46 PM
Laudrup would be a f***ing Shakespearean tragedy waiting to happen with us.  Gullit all over again.

:snod:

Can't see him working in our "setup" at all unfortunately.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:37:20 PM
People complaining over Laudrup after being stuck with Pardew for 4 years.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:45:12 PM
I'd be spaffing all owa if laudrup got it tbh
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:56:54 PM
People complaining over Laudrup after being stuck with Pardew for 4 years.

I'm not complaining. I just can't see it work well or last long, if it were to happen, which I seriously doubt. If what mofo says is true, then can you see it end well if the stumbling block is final say on transfers?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 10:58:00 PM
Really want Garde tbh. Nice lad.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:03:09 PM
I think most people think it wouldn't last long tbh, that's just the type of bloke he is. If you hire him you kind of should know what you're getting.

That's my only apprehension about him, I think he'd do a good job if he came here even if it's for a short term.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:09:34 PM
The managers head coach job here is so limited it wouldn't matter all that much if he did leave.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:11:27 PM
People complaining over Laudrup after being stuck with Pardew for 4 years.

I'm not complaining. I just can't see it work well or last long, if it were to happen, which I seriously doubt. If what mofo says is true, then can you see it end well if the stumbling block is final say on transfers?

no same, not complaining, but it does stink of gullit to me

after pardew let's have sexy football (gullit) and proven cup winner (souness), what could go wrong when he's got the likes of mike williamson to come striding out of defence with the ball? :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:20:15 PM
However there is a lot in there also that I don't agree with, the lack of succession planning, the lack of flexibility to admit you may need short term fixes like getting a better caretaker in than carver or buying/loaning a CB to get us to the end of the season still in the Prem and I'm struggling to see where our progress has been on the field in the last 4 years of Pardew. I also want to see that mission statement, and see if we are aligned to it, because we are a very profitable business or they have done a lousy job of planning and the direction needs to change because we have not progressed on the field in the time that Ashley has been at the club.

This is it like.  We keep getting told that the club should be self sustainable and the money it makes invested in the first team and yet we're sitting on around a £50m profit and leaving areas of the team desperately short.  It's obvious the actual plan is just to bank any profits and gamble on survival whilst spending the absolute bare minimum possible.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:21:34 PM
Make that 100m
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:22:10 PM
**** BULLSHIT ALERT ****

Got told today from a supplier that Laudrup is having a second interview this week. The hp is apparently good friends with Carr. The stumbling block is Laudrup not having the final say on transfers but he expects him to sign a 5 year deal.

Like I said most probably bs but thought I would share.

Bit of an oxymoron though? Stumbling block being no say on transfers, but still expects him to sign a long term deal despite the major stumbling block being still there, and it being a pretty well-known "restriction' that has been megaphone'd from the press/Charnley?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:23:47 PM
Big stumbling block but I'd love laudrup here
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Stuy_O on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:25:50 PM
I'll take a year of Laudrup attacking football tbh. Will go tits up but honestly who f***ing cares? Can't get any worse plus it's universes better than Carver.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:25:53 PM
Is he not in a highly paid job somewhere in the Middle East anyway?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:26:03 PM
Charnley was talking long-term which Laudrup definitely isn't and Swansea were glad to get rid in the end.  I am not sure that he is one for developing a whole new structure within a club - he certainly doesn't hang around to see it through.  To me he would be a panic appointment going against everything Charnley has said and the whole due diligence stuff he was keen to emphasise in the interview would be shown up as nonsense.



Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:26:23 PM
I'd rather Garde and if it's true that he wants the job, I'd move heaven and earth to get him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:26:50 PM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: lovejoy on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:27:13 PM
I'd rather Garde and if it's true that he wants the job, I'd move heaven and earth to get him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:27:44 PM
I'd rather Garde and if it's true that he wants the job, I'd move heaven and earth to get him.

Yep. Him and Tuchel appear the standout candidates. I don't believe De Boer would even be remotely interested.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:28:21 PM
I really can't see your board looking at Laudrup given his proven record of not getting along well with most chairmen he's worked with.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:29:37 PM
I'd rather Garde and if it's true that he wants the job, I'd move heaven and earth to get him.

Yep. Him and Tuchel appear the standout candidates. I don't believe De Boer would even be remotely interested.

Wouldn't surprise me if he's eyeing our bench, to be frank (de boer).
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Stuy_O on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:31:02 PM
Defo would have Garde over the ones mentioned, but wouldn't be mad if we appointed Laudrup. The club go on about long term, their last long term idea was to give Pardew an 8 year deal. They just say stuff to mask the fact they won't spend any money. Laudrup would massively freshen things up on the training ground and would have us playing decent football at home, something I actually can't remember when we last did.

The club got that stagnated I would actually take something short term just to see some good football.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:35:51 PM
Is he not in a highly paid job somewhere in the Middle East anyway?

wiki says he signed a 1 year deal with the team in qatar, which might mean it is a possibility tbh
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:41:16 PM
I wonder if the first question for our potential 'end of season' candidates is as follows:

"As many pundits have said in recent years, the Championship is a hard league to get out of. How do you foresee yourself overcoming this challenge?"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:48:38 PM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 21 January 2015, 11:50:43 PM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde



that's my god damn prefo Flipo :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:11:22 AM
Can't see Laudrup being anywhere near willing to work under our system.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:24:37 AM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde



that's my god damn prefo Flipo :lol:

Kanji, can you please let Flip tell you what you think
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:26:05 AM
Can't see Laudrup being anywhere near willing to work under our system.

could explain the delay, well it could in dreamland where the club have a preferred manager and go all out to get him
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flip on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:35:37 AM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde



that's my god damn prefo Flipo :lol:

Kanji, can you please let Flip tell you what you think

Just trying to enlighten an american on how it should be. A bit like if Kanji told me something about what hamburger is the best, I'd listen cause he's american. In this case listen to me.

 :eek:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:39:15 AM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde



that's my god damn prefo Flipo :lol:

Kanji, can you please let Flip tell you what you think

Just trying to enlighten an american on how it should be. A bit like if Kanji told me something about what hamburger is the best, I'd listen cause he's american. In this case listen to me.

 :eek:

So if I have a question about shanghaiing girls from favelas and selling them to Saudi princes, should I seek you out for advice then?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:44:33 AM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde



that's my god damn prefo Flipo :lol:

Kanji, can you please let Flip tell you what you think

Just trying to enlighten an american on how it should be. A bit like if Kanji told me something about what hamburger is the best, I'd listen cause he's american. In this case listen to me.

 :eek:

So if I have a question about shanghaiing girls from favelas and selling them to Saudi princes, should I seek you out for advice then?

 :kasper:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flip on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:48:57 AM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde



that's my god damn prefo Flipo :lol:

Kanji, can you please let Flip tell you what you think

Just trying to enlighten an american on how it should be. A bit like if Kanji told me something about what hamburger is the best, I'd listen cause he's american. In this case listen to me.

 :eek:

So if I have a question about shanghaiing girls from favelas and selling them to Saudi princes, should I seek you out for advice then?

:lol: :lol: :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:50:30 AM
Tuchel, Garde, De Boer
Laudrup

You can't have De Boer on the same level as the other two imo.

1. De Boer (love everytime I watch his Ajax side)
2. Tuchel (no idea how his teams played though)
3. Laudrup, Garde



that's my god damn prefo Flipo :lol:

Kanji, can you please let Flip tell you what you think

Just trying to enlighten an american on how it should be. A bit like if Kanji told me something about what hamburger is the best, I'd listen cause he's american. In this case listen to me.

 :eek:

(http://i.imgur.com/WSd5vIF.gif)

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flip on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:51:43 AM
that f***ing gif man? :lol: Never seen it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 22 January 2015, 01:11:14 AM
Possibly the greatest throw ever captured on camera imo
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 22 January 2015, 03:05:47 AM
:lol: amazing gif. my man flip trying to tell me who I'd like in what order/category. Love it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Flip on Thursday 22 January 2015, 10:23:16 AM
:lol: amazing gif. my man flip trying to tell me who I'd like in what order/category. Love it.

It's what friends are for. :lol: Seriously though, De Boer :megusta: Might be managing Messi and co. next season though.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 22 January 2015, 10:55:53 AM
Not sure on Laudrup at all, but at least the football should be a damn sight better.

This sounds familiar :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21647601
Quote
The Swans are eighth after their 1-0 win over Newcastle, a result that took them past Laudrup's pre-season target of 40 points, with 10 games remaining.

The Dane believes the top seven places will be sewn up by more established clubs, but that eighth is achievable.

"Eighth would be incredible, for me it would be like winning the league. It would be fantastic," he said.

 "I think the first seven spots are already there, Manchester [United], Manchester [City], Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton.

"Coming eighth is like winning the league because the other seven are above us." 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 22 January 2015, 11:36:35 AM
Not sure on Laudrup at all, but at least the football should be a damn sight better.

This sounds familiar :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21647601
Quote
The Swans are eighth after their 1-0 win over Newcastle, a result that took them past Laudrup's pre-season target of 40 points, with 10 games remaining.

The Dane believes the top seven places will be sewn up by more established clubs, but that eighth is achievable.

"Eighth would be incredible, for me it would be like winning the league. It would be fantastic," he said.

 "I think the first seven spots are already there, Manchester [United], Manchester [City], Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton.

"Coming eighth is like winning the league because the other seven are above us." 

He's so going to get hired isn't he  :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Thursday 22 January 2015, 11:44:33 AM
Might start wearing my

(http://www.maniaonline.co.uk/images/products/277_large_42754.jpg)

in anticipation
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 22 January 2015, 11:58:50 AM
If we hired Laudrup tomorrow, a month ago we'd have had Alan Pardew and tomorrow we'd have Frank Laudrup. f***ing rights I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 January 2015, 12:18:10 PM
:lol:

"Frank no, stop spitting, you need to pick a team"
"graaRRRGLE"
"Frank we can't play 3 goalkeepers"
"hnn....hnn...hnngfarrgggggg"

ad infinitum
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 22 January 2015, 01:12:24 PM
Frank Garde for me like
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 22 January 2015, 01:14:40 PM
Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big :lol: Have to consider where they came from.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 22 January 2015, 01:26:49 PM
Wales?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Thursday 22 January 2015, 01:37:48 PM
Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big :lol: Have to consider where they came from.

It's complete bollocks. They got more points the year before under Rodgers than they did that season. West Brom "won the league" that year and lost 17 games :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 22 January 2015, 01:40:55 PM
Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big :lol: Have to consider where they came from.

It's complete bollocks. They got more points the year before under Rodgers than they did that season. West Brom "won the league" that year and lost 17 games :lol:

Aye that's all fine in hindsight but he's talking about that during the season before the end of season implosion which led to Rodgers having more points.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Thursday 22 January 2015, 01:53:14 PM
Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big :lol: Have to consider where they came from.

It's complete bollocks. They got more points the year before under Rodgers than they did that season. West Brom "won the league" that year and lost 17 games :lol:

Aye that's all fine in hindsight but he's talking about that during the season before the end of season implosion which led to Rodgers having more points.

8th would still only be a 3 place improvement from the year before. If Rodgers had got 5 more points he'd have been joint 8th himself (with Liverpool and the mighty Fulham).
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 22 January 2015, 02:03:35 PM
is 8th not the highest finish in the clubs (swansea) history? 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Thursday 22 January 2015, 02:09:33 PM
is 8th not the highest finish in the clubs (swansea) history? 

Not sure about all time but 9th is their highest in the PL. 11th, 9th, 12th and currently 9th.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 22 January 2015, 02:12:01 PM
is 8th not the highest finish in the clubs (swansea) history? 

Not sure about all time but 9th is their highest in the PL. 11th, 9th, 12th and currently 9th.

sorry i suppose i should have said it would have been their highest ever finish had they achieved it
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Pip on Thursday 22 January 2015, 02:18:18 PM
I wouldn't mind Michael de Boer, to be honest.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 22 January 2015, 02:30:35 PM
Wales?

:lol: against all odds
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Friday 23 January 2015, 10:07:07 AM
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/11742670._/?ref=mac

Wilson's World: The Communist Manifesto - or at least Newcastle United's version of it

STAGE MANAGED: Managing director Lee Charnley delivered a message this week that was reminiscent of those produced by communist regimes in the past

READING Lee Charnley’s message to the Geordie nation earlier this week, it was tempting to conjure up images of a communist apparatchik dutifully relaying a pre-agreed diktat on behalf of the supreme leader.

‘We know you’re not very happy with the way things are going, but we’ve got a five-year plan and we’re sticking to it. And, anyway, you’re just simple members of the proletariat, why on earth should we listen to you?’

‘I know some of you look at other, more decadent, regimes and wonder why we aren’t spending lavishly like they are? Well, we’re all about self-sufficiency here, and never mind that our ruling elite enjoy wealth beyond your comprehension’.

‘Yes, there was a rather unfortunate defection last month. But rest assured, it won’t happen again. Our next choice of head of state will definitely be toeing the line. We don’t much like dissent here, especially when it’s directed at the workings of the grand plan’.

It was all very stilted and stage managed, right down to the method of dissemination, which involved one hand-picked, compliant media organisation rather than a free invitation for discussion, which might have resulted in some open and unwanted debate.

All that was missing was the sight of tanks and rocket launchers being paraded down Barrack Road in front of a beaming Mike Ashley. Or maybe Alan Pardew turning up with an ice pick in his head.

The era of European dictatorship is clearly not dead, but if the Newcastle hierarchy are going to adopt communist-style methodology, perhaps they’d be advised to look at some of the reasons why the over-arching political doctrine ultimately failed. A few of them might well resonate with the fans who were the intended recipients of Charnley’s message.

One of the main reasons why communism collapsed is that it proved a catastrophically inflexible economic and political model. There’s nothing wrong with developing a long-term plan or strategy, but you have to be able to amend it to reflect changes in circumstance or the external environment in which you’re operating.

Communist regimes didn’t do that, sticking rigidly to policies that had already been seriously undermined by developing events. Newcastle’s leaders are doing similar, stubbornly refusing to change tack when circumstances dictate a shift in course.

Hence, we got Charnley’s pronouncement that there almost certainly wouldn’t be any investment into the playing squad this month because “the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in”.

So no matter that Steven Taylor’s absence until the end of the season means Newcastle will have to manage with just two centre-halves (Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson), both of whom are struggling for form, and a full-back (Paul Dummett) who is capable of deputising in one of the central positions.

Never mind that after failing to adequately strengthen their attacking positions in the summer, Newcastle find themselves with Ayoze Perez leading the line by himself with a 17-year-old (Adam Armstrong) who is still to score his first Premier League goal providing the main support. Signing someone this month wasn’t part of the plan, so it won’t be happening.

I criticised Sunderland for a lack of long-term planning in last week’s column, but at least their decision to recruit Jermain Defoe exhibits ambition and an acknowledgement of major failings that have become apparent in recent months. The response of the Newcastle hierarchy to a run of two wins from the last 12 matches is to bury their head in the sand and pretend that their cherished model remains infallible.

Another reason why communist regimes throughout Europe collapsed is that the populace grew tired of watching others become successful while their own standards of living remained unacceptably low. They knew how much money was washing around the regime’s coffers, yet they saw no tangible improvements because of it.

The annual Deloitte Money List was published yesterday and revealed that Newcastle United are the 19th richest club in the world. Their annual revenue, which is calculated for 2013-14, is £129.7m, with only six English clubs raking in more.

In the last 12 months, they have received around £20m for Yohan Cabaye and around £12m for Mathieu Debuchy, so why, you might well ask, does that financial strength not transfer across to success on the field?

Why is so little money reinvested into the squad in comparison to the likes of Southampton, Everton, West Ham United and even Stoke City, clubs whose annual income falls well short of their own?

Why is there such a paucity of ambition, especially in relation to the cup competitions, when other clubs manage to juggle assaults on a variety of fronts despite much more limited resources? If survival is the extent of a club’s ambition, how long will supporters be prepared to tolerate it?

Then there is the issue of expansionist ambitions. An accusation often levelled at former communist leaders is that they took their eye off the ball at home because they became fixated on what they could potentially achieve abroad.

One of the main disappointments about this week’s interview with Charnley is that he was not pushed further on Ashley’s ongoing interest in Rangers. His only comment on the subject was to refer to a previous statement in September, which stated that Ashley would not be selling Newcastle “at least until the end of next season”.

That’s fine, but there are still a host of unresolved questions about Ashley’s investment into Rangers, from the issue of whether UEFA would allow Newcastle and Rangers to take up a European place at the same time given his involvement in both clubs to the debate over which club will take primacy when it comes to making investment decisions.

If Ashley is preparing the groundwork for a possible sale in the second half of 2016, does that mean Newcastle will effectively be treading water between now and then? And if he continues to increase his influence at Ibrox, does that mean his input into issues at St James’ Park will decrease accordingly?

Some big questions relating to the future of Newcastle United, but sadly an absence of answers. Glasnost, in Communist days, was a policy calling for increased transparency and openness. Whatever his intentions were, Charnley’s attempt to reach out this week fell a fair way short of that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Friday 23 January 2015, 10:55:09 AM
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/11742670._/?ref=mac

Wilson's World: The Communist Manifesto - or at least Newcastle United's version of it

STAGE MANAGED: Managing director Lee Charnley delivered a message this week that was reminiscent of those produced by communist regimes in the past

READING Lee Charnley’s message to the Geordie nation earlier this week, it was tempting to conjure up images of a communist apparatchik dutifully relaying a pre-agreed diktat on behalf of the supreme leader.

‘We know you’re not very happy with the way things are going, but we’ve got a five-year plan and we’re sticking to it. And, anyway, you’re just simple members of the proletariat, why on earth should we listen to you?’

‘I know some of you look at other, more decadent, regimes and wonder why we aren’t spending lavishly like they are? Well, we’re all about self-sufficiency here, and never mind that our ruling elite enjoy wealth beyond your comprehension’.

‘Yes, there was a rather unfortunate defection last month. But rest assured, it won’t happen again. Our next choice of head of state will definitely be toeing the line. We don’t much like dissent here, especially when it’s directed at the workings of the grand plan’.

It was all very stilted and stage managed, right down to the method of dissemination, which involved one hand-picked, compliant media organisation rather than a free invitation for discussion, which might have resulted in some open and unwanted debate.

All that was missing was the sight of tanks and rocket launchers being paraded down Barrack Road in front of a beaming Mike Ashley. Or maybe Alan Pardew turning up with an ice pick in his head.

The era of European dictatorship is clearly not dead, but if the Newcastle hierarchy are going to adopt communist-style methodology, perhaps they’d be advised to look at some of the reasons why the over-arching political doctrine ultimately failed. A few of them might well resonate with the fans who were the intended recipients of Charnley’s message.

One of the main reasons why communism collapsed is that it proved a catastrophically inflexible economic and political model. There’s nothing wrong with developing a long-term plan or strategy, but you have to be able to amend it to reflect changes in circumstance or the external environment in which you’re operating.

Communist regimes didn’t do that, sticking rigidly to policies that had already been seriously undermined by developing events. Newcastle’s leaders are doing similar, stubbornly refusing to change tack when circumstances dictate a shift in course.

Hence, we got Charnley’s pronouncement that there almost certainly wouldn’t be any investment into the playing squad this month because “the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in”.

So no matter that Steven Taylor’s absence until the end of the season means Newcastle will have to manage with just two centre-halves (Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson), both of whom are struggling for form, and a full-back (Paul Dummett) who is capable of deputising in one of the central positions.

Never mind that after failing to adequately strengthen their attacking positions in the summer, Newcastle find themselves with Ayoze Perez leading the line by himself with a 17-year-old (Adam Armstrong) who is still to score his first Premier League goal providing the main support. Signing someone this month wasn’t part of the plan, so it won’t be happening.

I criticised Sunderland for a lack of long-term planning in last week’s column, but at least their decision to recruit Jermain Defoe exhibits ambition and an acknowledgement of major failings that have become apparent in recent months. The response of the Newcastle hierarchy to a run of two wins from the last 12 matches is to bury their head in the sand and pretend that their cherished model remains infallible.

Another reason why communist regimes throughout Europe collapsed is that the populace grew tired of watching others become successful while their own standards of living remained unacceptably low. They knew how much money was washing around the regime’s coffers, yet they saw no tangible improvements because of it.

The annual Deloitte Money List was published yesterday and revealed that Newcastle United are the 19th richest club in the world. Their annual revenue, which is calculated for 2013-14, is £129.7m, with only six English clubs raking in more.

In the last 12 months, they have received around £20m for Yohan Cabaye and around £12m for Mathieu Debuchy, so why, you might well ask, does that financial strength not transfer across to success on the field?

Why is so little money reinvested into the squad in comparison to the likes of Southampton, Everton, West Ham United and even Stoke City, clubs whose annual income falls well short of their own?

Why is there such a paucity of ambition, especially in relation to the cup competitions, when other clubs manage to juggle assaults on a variety of fronts despite much more limited resources? If survival is the extent of a club’s ambition, how long will supporters be prepared to tolerate it?

Then there is the issue of expansionist ambitions. An accusation often levelled at former communist leaders is that they took their eye off the ball at home because they became fixated on what they could potentially achieve abroad.

One of the main disappointments about this week’s interview with Charnley is that he was not pushed further on Ashley’s ongoing interest in Rangers. His only comment on the subject was to refer to a previous statement in September, which stated that Ashley would not be selling Newcastle “at least until the end of next season”.

That’s fine, but there are still a host of unresolved questions about Ashley’s investment into Rangers, from the issue of whether UEFA would allow Newcastle and Rangers to take up a European place at the same time given his involvement in both clubs to the debate over which club will take primacy when it comes to making investment decisions.

If Ashley is preparing the groundwork for a possible sale in the second half of 2016, does that mean Newcastle will effectively be treading water between now and then? And if he continues to increase his influence at Ibrox, does that mean his input into issues at St James’ Park will decrease accordingly?

Some big questions relating to the future of Newcastle United, but sadly an absence of answers. Glasnost, in Communist days, was a policy calling for increased transparency and openness. Whatever his intentions were, Charnley’s attempt to reach out this week fell a fair way short of that.
As the Echo are usually a Boro-Mackem cheer-sheet, this is an excellent article from them, and hits the nail on the head like a fairground mallet ; a better analogy to the Ashley regime I could never have imagined...the trouble is that the mass of fans CURRENTLY packing SJP are as brain-washed as many of Kim Jong-Un's regime, if not more so.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: buzza on Friday 23 January 2015, 11:00:53 AM
Nice comparison!!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Doug on Friday 23 January 2015, 02:50:57 PM
Ashley & Communism, strange bedfellows. Now Joseph Goebbels I could see working for Ashley, Good at delivering the party line and just a bit more right wing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: afar on Friday 23 January 2015, 05:48:19 PM
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/11742670._/?ref=mac

Wilson's World: The Communist Manifesto - or at least Newcastle United's version of it

STAGE MANAGED: Managing director Lee Charnley delivered a message this week that was reminiscent of those produced by communist regimes in the past

READING Lee Charnley’s message to the Geordie nation earlier this week, it was tempting to conjure up images of a communist apparatchik dutifully relaying a pre-agreed diktat on behalf of the supreme leader.

‘We know you’re not very happy with the way things are going, but we’ve got a five-year plan and we’re sticking to it. And, anyway, you’re just simple members of the proletariat, why on earth should we listen to you?’

‘I know some of you look at other, more decadent, regimes and wonder why we aren’t spending lavishly like they are? Well, we’re all about self-sufficiency here, and never mind that our ruling elite enjoy wealth beyond your comprehension’.

‘Yes, there was a rather unfortunate defection last month. But rest assured, it won’t happen again. Our next choice of head of state will definitely be toeing the line. We don’t much like dissent here, especially when it’s directed at the workings of the grand plan’.

It was all very stilted and stage managed, right down to the method of dissemination, which involved one hand-picked, compliant media organisation rather than a free invitation for discussion, which might have resulted in some open and unwanted debate.

All that was missing was the sight of tanks and rocket launchers being paraded down Barrack Road in front of a beaming Mike Ashley. Or maybe Alan Pardew turning up with an ice pick in his head.

The era of European dictatorship is clearly not dead, but if the Newcastle hierarchy are going to adopt communist-style methodology, perhaps they’d be advised to look at some of the reasons why the over-arching political doctrine ultimately failed. A few of them might well resonate with the fans who were the intended recipients of Charnley’s message.

One of the main reasons why communism collapsed is that it proved a catastrophically inflexible economic and political model. There’s nothing wrong with developing a long-term plan or strategy, but you have to be able to amend it to reflect changes in circumstance or the external environment in which you’re operating.

Communist regimes didn’t do that, sticking rigidly to policies that had already been seriously undermined by developing events. Newcastle’s leaders are doing similar, stubbornly refusing to change tack when circumstances dictate a shift in course.

Hence, we got Charnley’s pronouncement that there almost certainly wouldn’t be any investment into the playing squad this month because “the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in”.

So no matter that Steven Taylor’s absence until the end of the season means Newcastle will have to manage with just two centre-halves (Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson), both of whom are struggling for form, and a full-back (Paul Dummett) who is capable of deputising in one of the central positions.

Never mind that after failing to adequately strengthen their attacking positions in the summer, Newcastle find themselves with Ayoze Perez leading the line by himself with a 17-year-old (Adam Armstrong) who is still to score his first Premier League goal providing the main support. Signing someone this month wasn’t part of the plan, so it won’t be happening.

I criticised Sunderland for a lack of long-term planning in last week’s column, but at least their decision to recruit Jermain Defoe exhibits ambition and an acknowledgement of major failings that have become apparent in recent months. The response of the Newcastle hierarchy to a run of two wins from the last 12 matches is to bury their head in the sand and pretend that their cherished model remains infallible.

Another reason why communist regimes throughout Europe collapsed is that the populace grew tired of watching others become successful while their own standards of living remained unacceptably low. They knew how much money was washing around the regime’s coffers, yet they saw no tangible improvements because of it.

The annual Deloitte Money List was published yesterday and revealed that Newcastle United are the 19th richest club in the world. Their annual revenue, which is calculated for 2013-14, is £129.7m, with only six English clubs raking in more.

In the last 12 months, they have received around £20m for Yohan Cabaye and around £12m for Mathieu Debuchy, so why, you might well ask, does that financial strength not transfer across to success on the field?

Why is so little money reinvested into the squad in comparison to the likes of Southampton, Everton, West Ham United and even Stoke City, clubs whose annual income falls well short of their own?

Why is there such a paucity of ambition, especially in relation to the cup competitions, when other clubs manage to juggle assaults on a variety of fronts despite much more limited resources? If survival is the extent of a club’s ambition, how long will supporters be prepared to tolerate it?

Then there is the issue of expansionist ambitions. An accusation often levelled at former communist leaders is that they took their eye off the ball at home because they became fixated on what they could potentially achieve abroad.

One of the main disappointments about this week’s interview with Charnley is that he was not pushed further on Ashley’s ongoing interest in Rangers. His only comment on the subject was to refer to a previous statement in September, which stated that Ashley would not be selling Newcastle “at least until the end of next season”.

That’s fine, but there are still a host of unresolved questions about Ashley’s investment into Rangers, from the issue of whether UEFA would allow Newcastle and Rangers to take up a European place at the same time given his involvement in both clubs to the debate over which club will take primacy when it comes to making investment decisions.

If Ashley is preparing the groundwork for a possible sale in the second half of 2016, does that mean Newcastle will effectively be treading water between now and then? And if he continues to increase his influence at Ibrox, does that mean his input into issues at St James’ Park will decrease accordingly?

Some big questions relating to the future of Newcastle United, but sadly an absence of answers. Glasnost, in Communist days, was a policy calling for increased transparency and openness. Whatever his intentions were, Charnley’s attempt to reach out this week fell a fair way short of that.
As the Echo are usually a Boro-Mackem cheer-sheet, this is an excellent article from them, and hits the nail on the head like a fairground mallet ; a better analogy to the Ashley regime I could never have imagined...the trouble is that the mass of fans CURRENTLY packing SJP are as brain-washed as many of Kim Jong-Un's regime, if not more so.

Yes this is a great piece. I mentioned this rigidity to a sound process in my comments on the article when it came out.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Friday 23 January 2015, 06:47:36 PM
The Echo to the gulags, Charnley!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Friday 23 January 2015, 07:53:10 PM
Any particular reason this was locked? ???
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: JH on Friday 23 January 2015, 07:54:23 PM
My fat fingers - sorry :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Friday 23 January 2015, 07:55:33 PM
My fat fingers - sorry :lol:

Thought so. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 23 January 2015, 07:56:22 PM
Quite a lock war in the moderation log :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Friday 23 January 2015, 10:02:31 PM
Hope this c*** and his even fatter mate fall under a bus this weekend.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Friday 23 January 2015, 10:09:22 PM
Quite a lock war in the moderation log :lol:

Just checked. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Friday 23 January 2015, 10:36:16 PM
Hope this c*** and his even fatter mate fall under a bus this weekend.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Friday 23 January 2015, 11:37:13 PM
Hope this c*** and his even fatter mate fall under a bus this weekend.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 24 January 2015, 12:17:49 AM
Hope this c*** and his even fatter mate fall under a bus this weekend.

:lol: :lol: :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Andymc1 on Saturday 24 January 2015, 12:20:32 AM
Hope this c*** and his even fatter mate fall under a bus this weekend.

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Saturday 24 January 2015, 12:21:37 AM
Out of order that IMO. What the hell was wrong with tonight?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Saturday 24 January 2015, 01:17:09 AM
Out of order that IMO. What the hell was wrong with tonight?


:lol:

No wonder this place is one-eyed with this sort of attitude.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:18:24 AM
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/11742670._/?ref=mac

Wilson's World: The Communist Manifesto - or at least Newcastle United's version of it

STAGE MANAGED: Managing director Lee Charnley delivered a message this week that was reminiscent of those produced by communist regimes in the past

READING Lee Charnley’s message to the Geordie nation earlier this week, it was tempting to conjure up images of a communist apparatchik dutifully relaying a pre-agreed diktat on behalf of the supreme leader.

‘We know you’re not very happy with the way things are going, but we’ve got a five-year plan and we’re sticking to it. And, anyway, you’re just simple members of the proletariat, why on earth should we listen to you?’

‘I know some of you look at other, more decadent, regimes and wonder why we aren’t spending lavishly like they are? Well, we’re all about self-sufficiency here, and never mind that our ruling elite enjoy wealth beyond your comprehension’.

‘Yes, there was a rather unfortunate defection last month. But rest assured, it won’t happen again. Our next choice of head of state will definitely be toeing the line. We don’t much like dissent here, especially when it’s directed at the workings of the grand plan’.

It was all very stilted and stage managed, right down to the method of dissemination, which involved one hand-picked, compliant media organisation rather than a free invitation for discussion, which might have resulted in some open and unwanted debate.

All that was missing was the sight of tanks and rocket launchers being paraded down Barrack Road in front of a beaming Mike Ashley. Or maybe Alan Pardew turning up with an ice pick in his head.

The era of European dictatorship is clearly not dead, but if the Newcastle hierarchy are going to adopt communist-style methodology, perhaps they’d be advised to look at some of the reasons why the over-arching political doctrine ultimately failed. A few of them might well resonate with the fans who were the intended recipients of Charnley’s message.

One of the main reasons why communism collapsed is that it proved a catastrophically inflexible economic and political model. There’s nothing wrong with developing a long-term plan or strategy, but you have to be able to amend it to reflect changes in circumstance or the external environment in which you’re operating.

Communist regimes didn’t do that, sticking rigidly to policies that had already been seriously undermined by developing events. Newcastle’s leaders are doing similar, stubbornly refusing to change tack when circumstances dictate a shift in course.

Hence, we got Charnley’s pronouncement that there almost certainly wouldn’t be any investment into the playing squad this month because “the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in”.

So no matter that Steven Taylor’s absence until the end of the season means Newcastle will have to manage with just two centre-halves (Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson), both of whom are struggling for form, and a full-back (Paul Dummett) who is capable of deputising in one of the central positions.

Never mind that after failing to adequately strengthen their attacking positions in the summer, Newcastle find themselves with Ayoze Perez leading the line by himself with a 17-year-old (Adam Armstrong) who is still to score his first Premier League goal providing the main support. Signing someone this month wasn’t part of the plan, so it won’t be happening.

I criticised Sunderland for a lack of long-term planning in last week’s column, but at least their decision to recruit Jermain Defoe exhibits ambition and an acknowledgement of major failings that have become apparent in recent months. The response of the Newcastle hierarchy to a run of two wins from the last 12 matches is to bury their head in the sand and pretend that their cherished model remains infallible.

Another reason why communist regimes throughout Europe collapsed is that the populace grew tired of watching others become successful while their own standards of living remained unacceptably low. They knew how much money was washing around the regime’s coffers, yet they saw no tangible improvements because of it.

The annual Deloitte Money List was published yesterday and revealed that Newcastle United are the 19th richest club in the world. Their annual revenue, which is calculated for 2013-14, is £129.7m, with only six English clubs raking in more.

In the last 12 months, they have received around £20m for Yohan Cabaye and around £12m for Mathieu Debuchy, so why, you might well ask, does that financial strength not transfer across to success on the field?

Why is so little money reinvested into the squad in comparison to the likes of Southampton, Everton, West Ham United and even Stoke City, clubs whose annual income falls well short of their own?

Why is there such a paucity of ambition, especially in relation to the cup competitions, when other clubs manage to juggle assaults on a variety of fronts despite much more limited resources? If survival is the extent of a club’s ambition, how long will supporters be prepared to tolerate it?

Then there is the issue of expansionist ambitions. An accusation often levelled at former communist leaders is that they took their eye off the ball at home because they became fixated on what they could potentially achieve abroad.

One of the main disappointments about this week’s interview with Charnley is that he was not pushed further on Ashley’s ongoing interest in Rangers. His only comment on the subject was to refer to a previous statement in September, which stated that Ashley would not be selling Newcastle “at least until the end of next season”.

That’s fine, but there are still a host of unresolved questions about Ashley’s investment into Rangers, from the issue of whether UEFA would allow Newcastle and Rangers to take up a European place at the same time given his involvement in both clubs to the debate over which club will take primacy when it comes to making investment decisions.

If Ashley is preparing the groundwork for a possible sale in the second half of 2016, does that mean Newcastle will effectively be treading water between now and then? And if he continues to increase his influence at Ibrox, does that mean his input into issues at St James’ Park will decrease accordingly?

Some big questions relating to the future of Newcastle United, but sadly an absence of answers. Glasnost, in Communist days, was a policy calling for increased transparency and openness. Whatever his intentions were, Charnley’s attempt to reach out this week fell a fair way short of that.

Excellent.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Paully on Saturday 24 January 2015, 01:27:57 PM
The club requested an interview?!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-charnleys-decision-talk-great-8507973
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Parsley on Saturday 24 January 2015, 01:51:28 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11366206/Gary-Neville-The-era-of-the-gaffer-is-over.html

Les Reed saying the things that Charnley should've said.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Saturday 24 January 2015, 02:02:37 PM
The club requested an interview?!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-charnleys-decision-talk-great-8507973

All adds to the nature of the statement. They only requested it to put them out in a good light and try and win the fans over. The f***ing dementors.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jayson on Saturday 24 January 2015, 02:09:48 PM
Interesting article in the Telegraph discussing how southampton are set up in comparison to the statement we put out:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11366206/Gary-Neville-The-era-of-the-gaffer-is-over.html

Quote
I spoke to Reed about the club’s ‘Black Box’ – a darkened room he compares to the “Bridge of the Starship Enterprise” – and why preparing in advance for the loss of a manager is just as important as planning which players to buy.

Reed tells me: “We have a whole department for the recruitment of players, but it struck me some years ago that when a manager leaves, that’s when the club reacts and starts looking for a new one. I think we should be as diligent with that, because of the turnover of managers these days.

“Whether they are fired or attracted to another club, as with Mauricio [Pochettino], you have to be as far ahead with potential coaches as potential players. So I’m always tracking managers and coaches. What’s their style of play, how successful are they, what’s their personality like – so you can be ahead of the game

& on transfers:

Quote
So far so good, but with so many clubs making mediocre or outright bad decisions in the transfer market, I ask Reed who calls the shots at St Mary’s. January signings, for example, would involve him, the chief scout, the head of recruitment and, of course, Koeman.

“The first stage is – what do we think we need?” Reed starts out. “We audit the squad. Then Ronald might say – we need another winger, or cover at centre-back, or whatever. We then have a discussion about the type of player. The coach can then leave the recruitment department to discuss potential targets, and these would then be set out for Ronald - 'Do they fit, what would be your preferences in order?'" Reed and Koeman then discuss the finance. “My role is getting Ronald what he wants. My job is to support him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Saturday 24 January 2015, 02:14:27 PM
Reed took over that post in April 2010, didn't take him long to see through Pards.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Collage on Saturday 24 January 2015, 02:15:49 PM
The club requested an interview?!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-charnleys-decision-talk-great-8507973

I'm not surprised, in fact that's what I thought.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 24 January 2015, 03:01:04 PM
Quite a lock war in the moderation log :lol:

Just checked. :lol:

Mainly looked in case it was me  :blush:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 24 January 2015, 08:32:53 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/lee-charnley-ripping-heart-out-5035737
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Saturday 24 January 2015, 08:45:38 PM
Both surprised and delighted with the amount of negative reaction his spunky interview has generated. Seems as if the penny is dropping and awkward questions are being posed as to what's happening at our club. It's gone on for years, we all know, but the hacks seem willing and able to get their teeth into Charnley and Ashley. Good stuff.

Fully expect another swathe of negative articles when we announce how much money we've made in the next month or two. People need to join the dots and if they need it shoved in their faces so they can't fail to see it then fair enough. f*** them all.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Bada Bing on Saturday 24 January 2015, 08:47:28 PM
Excellent piece that. Sums it up really.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Saturday 24 January 2015, 08:48:15 PM
I can't imagine charnley expected this level of criticism when he got his promotion
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 24 January 2015, 09:46:49 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 24 January 2015, 09:47:43 PM
Both surprised and delighted with the amount of negative reaction his spunky interview has generated. Seems as if the penny is dropping and awkward questions are being posed as to what's happening at our club. It's gone on for years, we all know, but the hacks seem willing and able to get their teeth into Charnley and Ashley. Good stuff.

Fully expect another swathe of negative articles when we announce how much money we've made in the next month or two. People need to join the dots and if they need it shoved in their faces so they can't fail to see it then fair enough. f*** them all.

Genuinely think Pards going leaves them out in the open.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 24 January 2015, 09:48:43 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

He better make the correct decision  then
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:00:56 PM
Both surprised and delighted with the amount of negative reaction his spunky interview has generated. Seems as if the penny is dropping and awkward questions are being posed as to what's happening at our club. It's gone on for years, we all know, but the hacks seem willing and able to get their teeth into Charnley and Ashley. Good stuff.

Fully expect another swathe of negative articles when we announce how much money we've made in the next month or two. People need to join the dots and if they need it shoved in their faces so they can't fail to see it then fair enough. f*** them all.

Genuinely think Pards going leaves them out in the open.

Course it does, the club needs a revolution and without a patsy who will do absolutely anything for them, it is a whole lot closer to happening than it was before.

This is far too complex for some of our fans to understand like. Seen some comments today - "Pards played full team today, told u he was under Ashley's orders!"

Really?! Well I never!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:08:02 PM
:lol: I can't engage with people about football outside of here particularly our own fans. Charnley not liking the spotlight is great, the more he f***s up the more negative it gets for him and ashley
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:09:15 PM
:lol: I can't engage with people about football outside of here particularly our own fans. Charnley not liking the spotlight is great, the more he f***s up the more negative it gets for him and ashley

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mofo on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:09:44 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Threaten them both or you're not a true mag.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:10:48 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Threaten them both or you're not a true mag.

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:11:32 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Found one of their wedding snaps online.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fa/f6/99/faf699f982e734da22dfc18b989cef15.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:13:07 PM
I'm not on facebook but my missus is. have persuaded her to share some of the negative charnley articles on her account. she's got a few mutual friends with mrs charnley.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:14:11 PM
I'm not on facebook but my missus is. have persuaded her to share some of the negative charnley articles on her account. she's got a few mutual friends with mrs charnley.

Good work
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:15:36 PM
Tell her to add the bint.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:16:40 PM
The fat little pig will be reading every column inch that's being written about him. Hopefully he's squirming in his own faeces whist doing so.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: levelsevenlee on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:17:10 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Surely, surely, there's no way he could have thought he could take that job and not be in the public eye? Especially working for this regime???
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:18:02 PM
I'm delighted that the club is attracting so much negative press, we're now a nothing club and it needs highlighting.  We are the opposite of what a football club should be.  A football club should try to win every game in every competition and that should be the case no matter what level you play at.  We don't even try to hide the fact that we don't give a s*** where we finish as long as it means we're in the top division the following season.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:18:04 PM
He wasn't really in the public eye, though. Not until Pards p*ssed off.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:42:43 PM
Time to turn the tumb screw a bit tighter.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 24 January 2015, 10:59:04 PM
Charnley's an easy target. other than irving he's the only high profile Ashley yes man that lives up here with his whole family.
The likes of Pardew, Kinnear, Llambias and Wise could just pop up now and again for a few days then disappear home. s***'s getting real now and hopefully this is all the beginning of the end for Ashley.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:02:23 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Like this post a lot.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: jdckelly on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:06:15 PM
article is mostly good with one exception, Charnley is largely irrelevant. Ashley is the one behind every single decision made and it doesn't matter what stooge he has in that job nothing about club policy will change in the slightest. Kinda wonder why he did that interview in the first place tbh PR isn't normally too high on the to do list.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:08:16 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Like this post a lot.
Should resign then. But then again who would employ him on the same money...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:14:12 PM
I'm delighted that the club is attracting so much negative press, we're now a nothing club and it needs highlighting.  We are the opposite of what a football club should be.  A football club should try to win every game in every competition and that should be the case no matter what level you play at.  We don't even try to hide the fact that we don't give a s*** where we finish as long as it means we're in the top division the following season.

Spot on , the more the merrier negative press wise. Charnley has lost the comfort blanket of Pardew taking all the flak and shots. You make the bed you lie in as far as I'm considered, about time he started to field some questions and be targeted over the absolute hollow shell of a club we've become.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:15:20 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Like this post a lot.
Should resign then. But then again who would employ him on the same money...

Tesco?  McDonalds?  Could go self employed and busk at Haymarket.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:28:03 PM
Mirror piece is excellent and from a national journalist too. :thup:

Shame on The Chron for getting back into bed with the club. Need to hit those b******s with a loss in revenue.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:41:11 PM
Mirror piece is excellent and from a national journalist too. :thup:

Shame on The Chron for getting back into bed with the club. Need to hit those b******s with a loss in revenue.
It's absolutely sickening how far up the club's hoop they are now considering the treatment the club have dished out over the last couple of years. Embarrassing, even.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 24 January 2015, 11:42:52 PM
had his face plastered across most of the front page of the chronicle on Wednesday and he hated it. his wife's none to happy either but she's had to accept he gets paid to do whatever Ashley tells him to. they live close to us and are getting nervous about all the attention he's getting.

Like this post a lot.
Should resign then. But then again who would employ him on the same money...

Tesco?  McDonalds?  Could go self employed and busk at Haymarket.
Interviewer: So Mr Charnley, I understand you were in an influential Executive position in your previous role. What did that entail and why do you think you will fit in at Chicken Cottage? LC: Mainly performing sexual acts on Mike and lying to lots of people. Oh, and trying to look like Harry Hill.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 25 January 2015, 10:37:58 AM
Doesnt have to work for ashley.  He has a choice,ashley is just using him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Sunday 25 January 2015, 11:34:25 AM
I would love to see the crowd turn on Charnley and Ashley and they should.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Sunday 25 January 2015, 11:39:10 AM
I would love to see the crowd turn on Charnley and Ashley and they should.

Hopefully.

Ashley will do his usual by hiding away and never coming again if that happens. But Charnley will not have that luxury.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Sunday 25 January 2015, 12:31:54 PM

They were talking about us this morning on Sunday Supplement, club lost it's Soul etc. Atleast it's being talked about regularly now.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Sunday 25 January 2015, 12:52:10 PM
Funny how it's only lost it's soul when their mate Pards has f***ed off  :whistle:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: geordiesteve710 on Sunday 25 January 2015, 01:07:19 PM
Funny how it's only lost it's soul when their mate Pards has f***ed off  :whistle:

Very true!!!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: hakka on Sunday 25 January 2015, 02:09:10 PM
Read the Mirror article, really critical of how the club is run and the focus on Charnley is useful. Hope the f***er is rattled by it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: antz1uk on Sunday 25 January 2015, 02:23:28 PM

They were talking about us this morning on Sunday Supplement, club lost it's Soul etc. Atleast it's being talked about regularly now.

they can f*** off, we must be this month's agenda now it's convenient for them
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: 54 on Sunday 25 January 2015, 04:16:42 PM
This been posted:

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/sunday-supplement/news/9660707/the-soul-is-being-sucked-out-of-newcastle-united-says-shaun-custis
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ScottishMagpie on Sunday 25 January 2015, 04:43:44 PM
This been posted:

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/sunday-supplement/news/9660707/the-soul-is-being-sucked-out-of-newcastle-united-says-shaun-custis


just watched it. Normally have very little time for that show but that segment is spot on. So depressed about what our club has become under ashley's stewardship.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: astraguy on Sunday 25 January 2015, 04:48:16 PM
This been posted:

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/sunday-supplement/news/9660707/the-soul-is-being-sucked-out-of-newcastle-united-says-shaun-custis


just watched it. Normally have very little time for that show but that segment is spot on. So depressed about what our club has become under ashley's stewardship.
Every Newcastle fan should get that Shared on either facebook or twitter
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Klaus on Sunday 25 January 2015, 04:48:39 PM
There was far too much pardew sympathy on that show, I stopped watching. But yeah that is a good piece.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:26:44 PM
SPEAK UP THEN YOU BALD c***
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:28:30 PM
SPEAK UP THEN YOU BALD c***

I bet Thumbheed reads this forum.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:31:38 PM
Fear not doon, the club know more than they did a week a go :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:47:21 PM
Taking the p*ss this delay. Almost a month now.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:50:15 PM
Fear not doon, the club know more than they did a week a go :thup:

Not true. They hoped to know more.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:51:25 PM
Fear not doon, the club know more than they did a week a go :thup:

Not true. They hoped to know more.
Was trying to be positive jack :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:53:35 PM
This been posted:

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/sunday-supplement/news/9660707/the-soul-is-being-sucked-out-of-newcastle-united-says-shaun-custis

I've just watched this and it's so horribly true it's unreal, our club will be nothing more than a shell until Ashley goes and why people still pay pounds notes to go and support this charade is beyond me
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Sunday 25 January 2015, 06:58:28 PM
Fear not doon, the club know more than they did a week a go :thup:

Not true. They hoped to know more.
Was trying to be positive jack :lol:

Quote from: Uncle Frank
You be positive, I'll be realistic
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Sunday 25 January 2015, 07:00:27 PM
Fear not doon, the club know more than they did a week a go :thup:

Not true. They hoped to know more.
Was trying to be positive jack :lol:

Quote from: Uncle Frank
You be positive, I'll be realistic
I usually am realistic :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Sunday 25 January 2015, 07:03:21 PM
Uncle Frank Laudrup?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mattoon on Sunday 25 January 2015, 07:17:02 PM
This been posted:

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/sunday-supplement/news/9660707/the-soul-is-being-sucked-out-of-newcastle-united-says-shaun-custis

I've just watched this and it's so horribly true it's unreal, our club will be nothing more than a shell until Ashley goes and why people still pay pounds notes to go and support this charade is beyond me

Although it's horribly accurate and true it boils my p*ss that they wouldn't have even blinked at this if Pardew was still here. However, regardless of the turn of events it takes to get to this point, we're here and people are finally asking questions. I found the last line pertinent too "you can't put emotions up for sale." Well said.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Sunday 25 January 2015, 11:33:23 PM
This little clip has probably summarised my anger at present.
It further angers me that this is how people are starting to see our club.

It's about time we started giving these c***s hell.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toontownman on Monday 26 January 2015, 12:47:30 AM
After the noises he made about the need for better communication, combined with saying we should know what the plan is by this weekend, there better be an announcement tomorrow.

That said when the inevitable finally happens and Carver is appointed until seasons end I don't know what I will do. Honestly don't think I can stomach watching a shitter Pardew clone drag us into a relegation battle. f***ing horrific couple of months coming up by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: 54 on Monday 26 January 2015, 12:54:16 AM
After the noises he made about the need for better communication, combined with saying we should know what the plan is by this weekend, there better be an announcement tomorrow.

That said when the inevitable finally happens and Carver is appointed until seasons end I don't know what I will do. Honestly don't think I can stomach watching a shitter Pardew clone drag us into a relegation battle. f***ing horrific couple of months coming up by the looks of things.
It's amazing thats actually possible, but some how it is.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 26 January 2015, 01:35:26 AM
This been posted:

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/sunday-supplement/news/9660707/the-soul-is-being-sucked-out-of-newcastle-united-says-shaun-custis

I've just watched this and it's so horribly true it's unreal, our club will be nothing more than a shell until Ashley goes and why people still pay pounds notes to go and support this charade is beyond me

Although it's horribly accurate and true it boils my p*ss that they wouldn't have even blinked at this if Pardew was still here. However, regardless of the turn of events it takes to get to this point, we're here and people are finally asking questions. I found the last line pertinent too "you can't put emotions up for sale." Well said.

wasn't keen on the player replacement bit in this tbh, saying the manager would have to just deal with selling a player and then handling whatever player comes in to replace him like it was a massive negative...this was pardew's absolute failure really, but there's no reason why a competent manager can't adapt to the loss of a player a season (if that) and then handle whatever comes in to replace if it's quality the likes that carr is getting

the club are right to install this system if they believe in carr and can find a good manager who is happy with it, the issue as always is not selling our players it's not balancing the squad when it's needed in the eternal quest for "value", i.e. wanting top quality product for f*** all and signing players we don't necessarily need at the time due to said value
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 26 January 2015, 02:50:25 PM
Would love to say I hope this inept cretin falls under the next Metro, but it'd probably be more appropriate to say I hope he gets hit by the replacement bus service.

Four f***ing weeks, man. Useless.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 26 January 2015, 02:55:37 PM
Ffs lee, you had one job to do.

Useless c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 26 January 2015, 02:57:49 PM
Hope this c*** starts to get some stick now btw.

Losing a (albeit f***ing hopeless) Manager to Crystal f***ing Palace and then not being able to tempt any c*** during the season/manage to persuade the fat c*** he works for to spend a few quid is laughable.

Not in the least surprised he's failed audition number 1.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 26 January 2015, 02:58:24 PM
I think they have their man but they have to wait until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:10:01 PM
"We’ve had about 80 applications of people interested in the role. That’s people within football."

"We see this as a long-term decision."

"I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department."

Liar.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:11:50 PM
"We’ve had about 80 applications of people interested in the role. That’s people within football."

"We see this as a long-term decision."

"I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department."

Liar.

 :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:12:22 PM
I think they have their man but they have to wait until the end of the season.

Simple question, why?

I think there's more to it than that. Clearly the free/cheap options don't want to work under their terms imho.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Andymc1 on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:14:00 PM
"We’ve had about 80 applications of people interested in the role. That’s people within football."

"We see this as a long-term decision."

"I’m confident at the end of this process the individual will be best suited for what we’re looking for and can work within the structure we have. I don’t think anything works and you’re never going to move forward if you have ‘yes’ people in key positions.

I know people label me as someone who says yes all the time but believe me, if I said yes to everything suggested I wouldn’t last very long. It doesn’t work that way. They have to challenge me, I have to challenge Mike over things – that is how management works. That’s what I expect from all of my heads of department."

Liar.

Banner worthy.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:15:00 PM
I think they have their man but they have to wait until the end of the season.

Simple question, why?

I think there's more to it than that. Clearly the free/cheap options don't want to work under their terms imho.

More in hope really, tho im not sure where the hope is coming from...
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:16:52 PM
I think they have their man but they have to wait until the end of the season.

Simple question, why?

I think there's more to it than that. Clearly the free/cheap options don't want to work under their terms imho.

More in hope really, tho im not sure where the hope is coming from...

It's just denial really. It's hard to face supporting the most shithouse club in the league. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:19:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2l1N_IJig
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:20:05 PM
I think they have their man but they have to wait until the end of the season.

Simple question, why?

I think there's more to it than that. Clearly the free/cheap options don't want to work under their terms imho.

More in hope really, tho im not sure where the hope is coming from...

It's just denial really. It's hard to face supporting the most shithouse club in the league. 

:thup: Yup. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LV on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:33:13 PM
Looking forward to your statement later Lee. Sure it's gonna be a cracker.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ilikenewcastle on Monday 26 January 2015, 03:46:08 PM
There were quite a few people who took positives from this moron's interview last week. LOL.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:08:01 PM
Another c*** who's death will be celebrated
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:08:41 PM
80 applicants :lol: there's no way none of them were better than Carver.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:09:20 PM
There's better candidates than Carver within the club ffs. :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:10:31 PM
There's better candidates than Carver within the club ffs. :lol:

:lol: if you didn't laugh you'd cry like.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:11:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2l1N_IJig
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toon25 on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:21:51 PM
Fat f***ing c***.

We're completely and utterly f***ed with t***s like him in charge.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:22:41 PM
There's better candidates than Carver within the club ffs. :lol:

:lol: if you didn't laugh you'd cry like.
True :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:23:09 PM
There's better candidates than Carver within the club ffs. :lol:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:44:31 PM
There were quite a few people who took positives from this moron's interview last week. LOL.

There's been a few people on here buzzing about him since the summer. f***ing fat embarrassing egghead c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ganninup on Monday 26 January 2015, 04:50:44 PM
Surely this type of behaviour is completely contrary to the spirit of competition?

Almost half a season left and we are not going to take those 16 games seriously enough to appoint a manager?

Honestly this beggars belief?  I've long given up on hoping to win anything, but I always thought it was either luck or incompetence or sometimes both that would mean NUFC would remain trophyless in my lifetime, but surely whats happening now is surely unprecedented.
Supression of competitiveness.
How far away from match fixing is this? 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toontownman on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:10:35 PM
Hope he enjoys his bonus for all that cash he is saving Ashely while gambling with our premiership future.

 They do realize that the money saved on a new coach will be lost, in fact more so just in terms of our likely placing in the league. Maybe the parachute payments will make up for it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: James on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:11:42 PM
I want to break his glasses.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thenige on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:12:00 PM
Meh, season was f***ed anyway. Would rather we appoint the right man in six months than the wrong man (permanently) now.

Though of course I feel sorry for those with a season ticket and knowing us we'll appoint the wrong man in six months anyway. This club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:13:10 PM
Meh, season was f***ed anyway. Would rather we appoint the right man in six months than the wrong man (permanently) now.

Though of course I feel sorry for those with a season ticket and knowing us we'll appoint the wrong man in six months anyway. This club.
You have any faith in this clueless bald f*** to appoint the right man?

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:16:42 PM
Meh, season was f***ed anyway. Would rather we appoint the right man in six months than the wrong man (permanently) now.

Though of course I feel sorry for those with a season ticket and knowing us we'll appoint the wrong man in six months anyway. This club.
Season wasn't f***ed 3 weeks ago though, make an effort then and we're in with a chance of European football next season. Then you got the fact that any new manager would have benefited hugely from having half a season to get to know the club and players.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:24:42 PM
Meh, season was f***ed anyway. Would rather we appoint the right man in six months than the wrong man (permanently) now.

Though of course I feel sorry for those with a season ticket and knowing us we'll appoint the wrong man in six months anyway. This club.
Season wasn't f***ed 3 weeks ago though, make an effort then and we're in with a chance of European football next season. Then you got the fact that any new manager would have benefited hugely from having half a season to get to know the club and players.

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gino14 on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:32:18 PM
The writing was on the wall from his statement. We were never getting a manager before the summer reading that and they basically believe they could send out the youth team and get a few points to stave off relegation. I actually don't think that'll happen.  This prick's decision hasn't just made the season a write off, I wish it was only that bad. I think there's a chance that this decision is so bad it will relegate us.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toontownman on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:35:17 PM
Meh, season was f***ed anyway. Would rather we appoint the right man in six months than the wrong man (permanently) now.

Though of course I feel sorry for those with a season ticket and knowing us we'll appoint the wrong man in six months anyway. This club.

Was it just me that read Carvers quotes and felt that Carver thinks he has the job full time?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:35:45 PM
Agreeing to forfeit the cup probably sealed the deal for Carver like. Considering the club are convinced it leads directly to relegation they'll have loved that show of arselicking commitment.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:37:42 PM
Agreeing to forfeit the cup probably sealed the deal for Carver like. Considering the club are convinced it leads directly to relegation they'll have loved that show of arselicking commitment.

Bobby would have been so proud.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Peppe on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:40:06 PM
Meh, season was f***ed anyway. Would rather we appoint the right man in six months than the wrong man (permanently) now.

Though of course I feel sorry for those with a season ticket and knowing us we'll appoint the wrong man in six months anyway. This club.
Season wasn't f***ed 3 weeks ago though, make an effort then and we're in with a chance of European football next season. Then you got the fact that any new manager would have benefited hugely from having half a season to get to know the club and players.

We don't want to get into Europe though: more games -> tired players -> We'll get relegated -> Sports Direct won't be on TV every weekend.

This happens 100% of the time btw, so we best not risk it! No team can play in the league AND Europe at the same time without getting relegated.



 :hunter:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Bert Shaft on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:40:46 PM
The writing was on the wall from his statement. We were never getting a manager before the summer reading that and they basically believe they could send out the youth team and get a few points to stave off relegation. I actually don't think that'll happen.  This prick's decision hasn't just made the season a write off, I wish it was only that bad. I think there's a chance that this decision is so bad it will relegate us.

... And if it does, I will laugh like f*ck. Once upon a time an NUFC relegation would have ruined my summer or whatever. I refuse too get upset and emotional about Sports Direct Utd whilst it is being run/ruined by winkers like fat and fatter so
f* ck em
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gino14 on Monday 26 January 2015, 05:42:24 PM
Agreeing to forfeit the cup probably sealed the deal for Carver like. Considering the club are convinced it leads directly to relegation they'll have loved that show of arselicking commitment.

I wonder what their analysis machine designed by Dr Robotnik will tell them about performance in cups lwhen lots of well performing cup teams stay up and we get relegated with Carver. Like always and about five years too late they'll talk about realising they needed a stronger man in charge as head coach. The people running this club dont have two brain cells to rub together.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 26 January 2015, 06:12:18 PM
Agreeing to forfeit the cup probably sealed the deal for Carver like. Considering the club are convinced it leads directly to relegation they'll have loved that show of arselicking commitment.

Totally agree with this and you can also chuck in to this the sale of at least one player before the deadline, I'm so p*ssed off with the hierarchy of this club that I'll take relagation just to upset their plans
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ScottishMagpie on Monday 26 January 2015, 06:25:20 PM
Agreeing to forfeit the cup probably sealed the deal for Carver like. Considering the club are convinced it leads directly to relegation they'll have loved that show of arselicking commitment.

aye...wonder if they will revise that once we are relegated with this clown in charge.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gorilla on Monday 26 January 2015, 06:26:34 PM
The championship season was great fun so don't really care what happens.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 26 January 2015, 06:57:13 PM
The championship season was great fun so don't really care what happens.
It would be totally different if it happened again imo.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 26 January 2015, 06:57:52 PM
Money for old rope. Suck Mike's balls and be the mouthpiece ringpiece of the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Bada Bing on Monday 26 January 2015, 06:58:11 PM
Relegation will probably just prolong Ashley's time here.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 26 January 2015, 08:55:54 PM
Meh, season was f***ed anyway. Would rather we appoint the right man in six months than the wrong man (permanently) now.

Though of course I feel sorry for those with a season ticket and knowing us we'll appoint the wrong man in six months anyway. This club.
Season wasn't f***ed 3 weeks ago though, make an effort then and we're in with a chance of European football next season. Then you got the fact that any new manager would have benefited hugely from having half a season to get to know the club and players.

That would have given the new manager a real advantage going into next season, as it is, assuming we do get someone in, it will probably be another season written off as they get to know the league and squad strengths.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: stozo on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:04:51 PM
I'll save my anger until the summer. If he actually appoints someone quality then all is forgiven (I'd happily wait for Tuchel, Garde or De Boer).
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:05:59 PM
De ja vu.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:16:38 PM
I'll save my anger until the summer. If he actually appoints someone quality then all is forgiven (I'd happily wait for Tuchel, Garde or De Boer).

The real test imo
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:34:26 PM
And if they appoint someone crap then all will be forgiven if they have us playing better football. And the beat goes on.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:38:05 PM
I'll save my anger until the summer. If he actually appoints someone quality then all is forgiven (I'd happily wait for Tuchel, Garde or De Boer).

The real test imo
:lol:

I know you're joking but it's infuriating that people reset after every disappointing result to "tests", whether it's expectations in the transfer window or staff appointments, and expect something good to come of whatever the next test is.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:39:31 PM
I'll save my anger until the summer. If he actually appoints someone quality then all is forgiven (I'd happily wait for Tuchel, Garde or De Boer).

The real test imo
:lol:

I know you're joking but it's infuriating that people reset after every disappointing result to "tests", whether it's expectations in the transfer window or staff appointments, and expect something good to come of whatever the next test is.

:lol: I hope no one thought that was serious like. But yeah I've been hearing that for about 5 years. "Nah the real test is the summer tbh" "the real test is January imo"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:39:50 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toon25 on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:41:57 PM
'Forgive'. f*** me, man. How much more do folk want to take?

This 'appointment' pretty much shows what NUFC is all about these days. They're not getting a penny more from me, and they're not getting any more of my attention either. Season ticket renewal my arse. They can stick it. And if enough people were to follow suit, perhaps they'd get the message and f*** off.

Carver is what most of our fans deserve if they continue to think Ashley, Charnley, Carr, et al. will come good. They're complicit in supporting the regime, in quashing any sort of ambition we're due as fans and, ultimately, killing the club.

f*** them all. Disgraceful.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: JH on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Like battered housewives, Newcastle fans man.

"This next appointment is really important - get it right and we are sorted...what? You're waiting until the summer? Good idea to take time, it's a really important decision. We could have a really good summer. What? You're going to give it Carver? Good idea, he knows the club much better than the foreign guys. What? You're not going to sack Carver after 20 defeats in a row? Good idea, we need stability..."

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Belfast Mags on Monday 26 January 2015, 09:45:45 PM
What is the f***ing point of this useless shithouse club anyway. Forfeiting half a season with a possible relegation battle on the cards because no-one gives two f***s.

I hope they get everything they deserve
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toon25 on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:21:32 PM
One need only glance through some of the posts on the Delle Ali thread to see how easily some people are pleased.

Nobody in their right mind should be praising this shower. For anything. The club is rotten to the core yet folk will commend the regime for buying up a raw kid from League 1.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:25:25 PM
He does have the type of face that you'd simply never tire of smacking like.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:27:15 PM
He doesn't have a face. c*** looks like a speccy raw sausage.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:32:18 PM
He doesn't have a face. c*** looks like a speccy raw sausage.

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:33:30 PM
I'll save my anger until the summer. If he actually appoints someone quality then all is forgiven (I'd happily wait for Tuchel, Garde or De Boer).

The real test imo

If it was going to be Tuchel or Garde then there is no reason why they can't announce it now.  Their first choice must be in a job now.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:34:52 PM
:thup: I think he's the only man I've ever seen who could possibly make Mike Ashley look remotely acceptable, like. Just utterly repugnant physically.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:35:16 PM
One need only glance through some of the posts on the Delle Ali thread to see how easily some people are pleased.

Nobody in their right mind should be praising this shower. For anything. The club is rotten to the core yet folk will commend the regime for buying up a raw kid from League 1.


:lol: And yet we complain when we buy nobody.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:36:35 PM
I'll save my anger until the summer. If he actually appoints someone quality then all is forgiven (I'd happily wait for Tuchel, Garde or De Boer).

The real test imo

If it was going to be Tuchel or Garde then there is no reason why they can't announce it now.  Their first choice must be in a job now.


He is, as of today.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: midds on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:40:33 PM
My own theory, probably shared by many others, is that they've sounded a few people out and got a positive response from them indicating they're interested. They've followed it up by discussing the role they see for the new head coach and they've all run a mile leaving them with no choice but to pretend they're 'waiting' until Summer to buy a bit more time. Give it to Carver and cross their fingers he doesn't relegate the club until them come up with someone spineless enough to become a patsy and if they still can't find anyone then Carver will get the gig permanently.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Pilko on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:42:26 PM
This is like Terry Connor's Wolves a few years ago.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:44:01 PM
This is like Terry Connor's Wolves a few years ago.

Luckily with much better players.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:53:36 PM
Has a caretaker manager ever been successful once appointed as manager?  It all went very quickly wrong for Roeder and Dinnis.  Usually there is the initial positive impact because the manager has been sacked but that is not the case here.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:57:46 PM
Has a caretaker manager ever been successful once appointed as manager?  It all went very quickly wrong for Roeder and Dinnis.  Usually there is the initial positive impact because the manager has been sacked but that is not the case here.

Charver hasn't been appointed manager full time at this point. He's still a caretaker officially despite his grovelling thanks to the hierarchy.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wullie on Monday 26 January 2015, 10:58:33 PM
Has a caretaker manager ever been successful once appointed as manager?  It all went very quickly wrong for Roeder and Dinnis.  Usually there is the initial positive impact because the manager has been sacked but that is not the case here.

:smitten:

(http://www.onelittlevoice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Chris-Hughton.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Monday 26 January 2015, 11:00:37 PM
Has a caretaker manager ever been successful once appointed as manager?  It all went very quickly wrong for Roeder and Dinnis.  Usually there is the initial positive impact because the manager has been sacked but that is not the case here.

Charver hasn't been appointed manager full time at this point. He's still a caretaker officially despite his grovelling thanks to the hierarchy.
If there is one positive to their shitty nature it's that they're likely just stringing him along with talk of possible permanent employment and we're in no real danger of it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 26 January 2015, 11:03:20 PM
Except they have said they expect him to get top 10. If he does he won't be going anywhere. If he comes close say 13th I think they will stick with him. Sign him up to a new tighter 'head coach' contract and if he's a disaster terminate him for minimum compo, write another season off etc.

The club is in a state of permanent stasis. When was the last time they did anything right, like seriously on a big scale?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 26 January 2015, 11:43:17 PM
Has a caretaker manager ever been successful once appointed as manager?  It all went very quickly wrong for Roeder and Dinnis.  Usually there is the initial positive impact because the manager has been sacked but that is not the case here.

Charver hasn't been appointed manager full time at this point. He's still a caretaker officially despite his grovelling thanks to the hierarchy.
If there is one positive to their shitty nature it's that they're likely just stringing him along with talk of possible permanent employment and we're in no real danger of it.

Based on what? Even when we appointed Keegan it was when he was on his knees and then when he got ideas above his station he was forced to leave. Charver is far more compliant so may well be ideal as Pardew's PR replacement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: thomas on Monday 26 January 2015, 11:44:54 PM
Has a caretaker manager ever been successful once appointed as manager?  It all went very quickly wrong for Roeder and Dinnis.  Usually there is the initial positive impact because the manager has been sacked but that is not the case here.

Charver hasn't been appointed manager full time at this point. He's still a caretaker officially despite his grovelling thanks to the hierarchy.
If there is one positive to their shitty nature it's that they're likely just stringing him along with talk of possible permanent employment and we're in no real danger of it.

Based on what? Even when we appointed Keegan it was when he was on his knees and then when he got ideas above his station he was forced to leave. Charver is far more compliant so may well be ideal as Pardew's PR replacement.
Based on hope, you miserable turd. :lol:

edit: also they lie to everyone, all the time, so why not lie to Carver?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Heron on Monday 26 January 2015, 11:52:35 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 02:10:54 AM
Except they have said they expect him to get top 10. If he does he won't be going anywhere. If he comes close say 13th I think they will stick with him. Sign him up to a new tighter 'head coach' contract and if he's a disaster terminate him for minimum compo, write another season off etc.

The club is in a state of permanent stasis. When was the last time they did anything right, like seriously on a big scale?

:lol: might as well keep going with it. "If he gets close to getting close to getting top 10, I think they'll keep him."

All just a whole lot of speculation built on more speculation that only serves to get people worked up.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 07:49:41 AM
"Impressed" with Charver so far according to the Chronicle. I know we have low standards but that is a pretty poor statement to make.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 08:22:51 AM
"Impressed" with Charver so far according to the Chronicle. I know we have low standards but that is a pretty poor statement to make.
He threw the cup game, excellent work in the eyes of Charnley :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Noodles on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 09:02:09 AM
"Impressed" with Charver so far according to the Chronicle. I know we have low standards but that is a pretty poor statement to make.

What is there to be impressed with? Losing the lead 3 times against Burnley at home? Losing two out of his three games at the healm.

Fuckin white wash. If people continue to attend games after this then there's really no hope for us.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 10:12:59 AM
Except they have said they expect him to get top 10. If he does he won't be going anywhere. If he comes close say 13th I think they will stick with him. Sign him up to a new tighter 'head coach' contract and if he's a disaster terminate him for minimum compo, write another season off etc.

The club is in a state of permanent stasis. When was the last time they did anything right, like seriously on a big scale?

:lol: might as well keep going with it. "If he gets close to getting close to getting top 10, I think they'll keep him."

All just a whole lot of speculation built on more speculation that only serves to get people worked up.

 Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Admittedly I think it's quite easy to forecast what's going to happen but I'm no less doomed.  :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 10:40:02 AM
3 things could potentially happen.

1. Carver gets the gig full time
2. Club is for sale and Ashley doesn't want to tie the new owners into a manager they dont want (highly unlikely)
3. The club have sorted a new manager but cant or wont sign him until the new season.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 10:45:29 AM
Hope you have all been listening to Colin Murray this morning on TalkSport. Very good again :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 10:47:20 AM
Hope you have all been listening to Colin Murray this morning on TalkSport. Very good again :thup:

He really gets us doesn't he?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 11:04:20 AM
Hope you have all been listening to Colin Murray this morning on TalkSport. Very good again :thup:

He really gets us doesn't he?


Bang on the money these last few month.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 11:25:58 AM
Hope you have all been listening to Colin Murray this morning on TalkSport. Very good again :thup:

He really gets us doesn't he?


Bang on the money these last few month.

Did you hear the bit earlier in the programme when they were talking about Lance Armstrong and a book that he has been heavily influenced by.  Des Kelly listed some of the principles.  I think Ashley must have read the same book as it was a pretty accurate description of how we are being run.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 11:41:13 AM
"Impressed" with Charver so far according to the Chronicle. I know we have low standards but that is a pretty poor statement to make.

Really?

I hope we get humiliated every game the remainder of the way, and just manage to eek out a few very unimpressive wins to keep us up.

Stupid idiots.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: geordiesteve710 on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 12:47:17 PM
Got a 2 day assessment centre for a job, just found out it's 4th-5th March and in Lincoln so I'll miss the Man Utd game. Most seasons previous I'd have been pretty p*ssed off about this kind of turn of events which typically hapen to me. Now I'm just thinking it's less expense, hassle and sitting in the cold watching them put shitloads of goals past us. Club wants to write off the rest of the season? fine- so can I.






















Apart from the s/t money which admittedly they already have.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 07:23:06 PM
Just for those in any doubt how our transfer policy works Douglas clarified it further on Total Sport tonight. The most striking point being if they sell player A then they will require the new head coach to be patient until they replace him. This patience which LC spoke of in his statement last week could take 3 transfer windows or more until the club get the right deal.  Imagine KK selling Andy Cole and standing on the steps saying telling us we are replacing him with Les Ferdinand but not for another 18 months as £6m for a player of his age isn't the right deal for the club :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 07:32:33 PM
Just for those in any doubt how our transfer policy works Douglas clarified it further on Total Sport tonight. The most striking point being if they sell player A then they will require the new head coach to be patient until they replace him. This patience which LC spoke of in his statement last week could take 3 transfer windows or more until the club get the right deal.  Imagine KK selling Andy Cole and standing on the steps saying telling us we are replacing him with Les Ferdinand but not for another 18 months as £6m for a player of his age isn't the right deal for the club :lol:

3 windows :lol: f***ing hell
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 27 January 2015, 07:33:46 PM
Just for those in any doubt how our transfer policy works Douglas clarified it further on Total Sport tonight. The most striking point being if they sell player A then they will require the new head coach to be patient until they replace him. This patience which LC spoke of in his statement last week could take 3 transfer windows or more until the club get the right deal.  Imagine KK selling Andy Cole and standing on the steps saying telling us we are replacing him with Les Ferdinand but not for another 18 months as £6m for a player of his age isn't the right deal for the club :lol:

Have that many hardcore fans really walked out on the club  :sad:

Absolutely galling man
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Wednesday 28 January 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Hope you have all been listening to Colin Murray this morning on TalkSport. Very good again :thup:

missed him this morning, what did he say?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 28 January 2015, 07:55:02 PM
Just for those in any doubt how our transfer policy works Douglas clarified it further on Total Sport tonight. The most striking point being if they sell player A then they will require the new head coach to be patient until they replace him. This patience which LC spoke of in his statement last week could take 3 transfer windows or more until the club get the right deal.  Imagine KK selling Andy Cole and standing on the steps saying telling us we are replacing him with Les Ferdinand but not for another 18 months as £6m for a player of his age isn't the right deal for the club :lol:
No-one with any self-respect would accept that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 28 January 2015, 08:05:07 PM
Wow - an article written by Lee Ryder I agree with:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/newcastle-united-fans-want-incentives-8536103
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BONTEMPI on Wednesday 28 January 2015, 08:05:57 PM
Just for those in any doubt how our transfer policy works Douglas clarified it further on Total Sport tonight. The most striking point being if they sell player A then they will require the new head coach to be patient until they replace him. This patience which LC spoke of in his statement last week could take 3 transfer windows or more until the club get the right deal.  Imagine KK selling Andy Cole and standing on the steps saying telling us we are replacing him with Les Ferdinand but not for another 18 months as £6m for a player of his age isn't the right deal for the club :lol:

They're off their heads man.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Monday 2 February 2015, 10:39:51 AM
Making a decent case for being worse than Llambias if he lets Santon go today. Quite impressive :slowclap:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: sempuki on Monday 2 February 2015, 10:42:06 AM
"We are difficult sellers" really means "We will flog as many as we can for as much as we can get".
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: merlin on Monday 2 February 2015, 11:19:17 AM
Ask yourself - where else would a non-entity like Charnley ever get a job like his...

Rangers, perhaps..?

He is just a stooge for Ashley, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 2 February 2015, 11:22:40 AM
Next home game, everyone just keep shouting "liar" at him.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 2 February 2015, 11:24:43 AM
Next home game, everyone just keep shouting "liar" at him.



The silent majority will probably beat you up for that
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 2 February 2015, 11:25:07 AM
Next home game, everyone just keep shouting "liar" at him.



The silent majority will probably beat you up for that

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 2 February 2015, 12:00:24 PM
Next home game, everyone just keep shouting "liar" at him.



The silent majority will probably beat you up for that

They will no longer be silent then, they will be agents of Ashley.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 2 February 2015, 12:28:07 PM
Next home game, everyone just keep shouting "liar" at him.



The silent majority will probably beat you up for that

They will no longer be silent then, they will be agents of Ashley.

They are already agents of Ashley since the Hull game
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Monday 2 February 2015, 12:51:47 PM
Charnley doesn't give a s*** about the club. He's a nobody who is in a job which he's not qualified to do and another lacky to stroke the fat b******s ego.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 2 February 2015, 12:57:22 PM
Yep. He's probably had a rollocking for not bringing in big money for Sissoko, so he is trying to flog anyone at any price now to try and get back on the good side of his lord and master.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Monday 2 February 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Gets a £10 bonus for every player that leaves during the window.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Jack Flash on Monday 2 February 2015, 01:01:40 PM
He'll quickly realise how good these kind of windows are when he sees his next paycheck. Same way Pardew gave us the tortured artist act for a few days when Carroll left then soon started joining in when he saw the percentage he'd just earned.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 2 February 2015, 01:38:31 PM
We all want to harbour an ever deepening love for you as the proud pilot of the good ship NUFC, even Mick....

But you're making it um... tricky.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 2 February 2015, 01:40:33 PM
Who said this kernt was doing a good job?  :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toontownman on Monday 2 February 2015, 01:49:10 PM
Who said this kernt was doing a good job?  :lol:

Uncle Mike. Remit on course to be achieved again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TRon on Monday 2 February 2015, 01:54:46 PM
He looks like Humpty Dumpty.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Monday 2 February 2015, 01:58:19 PM
After he's had the bad fall and all.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 2 February 2015, 02:01:21 PM
He looks like a thumb.

(http://i.cubeupload.com/sw0Aab.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 2 February 2015, 02:02:57 PM
He looks like a thumb.

(http://i.cubeupload.com/sw0Aab.jpg)

Thumb HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Fenham Mag on Monday 2 February 2015, 02:04:25 PM
Would love to throw acid in this c***s face.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 2 February 2015, 02:05:34 PM
He would proably pick up a small child to deflect the acid, thats the kind of man he is.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TBG on Monday 2 February 2015, 02:07:20 PM
He would proably pick up Anita to deflect the acid then cancel his contract on medical grounds, thats the kind of man he is.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 2 February 2015, 02:23:26 PM
He would proably pick up Anita to deflect the acid then cancel his contract on medical grounds, thats the kind of man he is.


 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: toon25 on Monday 2 February 2015, 10:37:28 PM
Would love to throw acid in this c***s face.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 2 February 2015, 10:56:22 PM
Daniel White ‏@danwhitepr  55s55 seconds ago
Joey Barton claims the #nufc transfer committee also want to have a say on team selection. Says he was told by a prospective Manager.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: manosdepiedra on Monday 2 February 2015, 11:00:46 PM
Daniel White ‏@danwhitepr  55s55 seconds ago
Joey Barton claims the #nufc transfer committee also want to have a say on team selection. Says he was told by a prospective Manager.

Doesnt that to all intents and purposes already happen in cup games though?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Sir Toon on Monday 2 February 2015, 11:08:08 PM
Charnley is the result of Ashley going out on the hoy around the central station.   Ashley stumbled into Powerhouse thinking it matched his ego and he came out with a rent boy.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 12:10:14 AM
I honestly think some of it isn't down to malice or greed as much as laziness. Charnley, Ashley, Lambias before them, they don't particularly seem to have any interest in football, even though the former is supposedly a fan. They don't seem excited about the prospect of new players, they certainly aren't interested in achieving footballing success. There's people who spend their leisure time playing Champ Man and following the transfer market, and I'm sure there are a lot of chairmen, managing directors and the like who are similarly motivated by the thrill of chasing a player who might do amazing things on the pitch. We're a business for whom football is not a priority. We're not in the entertainment industry. All our corporate staff are here because they accept that. So when this is just their day job, can they really be arsed going through all the paperwork to hire a new employee, negotiate, out maneuver other clubs, when they don't have any more motivation to do so than someone at a call centre does to fit in one last akward customer at the end of a shift? You'll still get paid, f*** it, just take the afternoon off and play golf.

There's not enough people with any kind of passion for the sport anywhere near the boardroom, and so they don't have the motivation or drive to achieve even basic progress and just coast through what should be the core aspects of their role with the minimum effort.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 12:21:05 AM
Daniel White ‏@danwhitepr  55s55 seconds ago
Joey Barton claims the #nufc transfer committee also want to have a say on team selection. Says he was told by a prospective Manager.


Ha! Not surprised at all. Blame Pardew completely for this.

Their probably thinking to themselves look what Cabella is doing now he's being played!

Pardew has left permanent damage at this club man. Didn't play MYM, Cabella, Ben Arfa, Haidara, Anita enough at various times, and considering the money spent (which was a big deal in the owners eyes, I'm not surprised their trying to do this). Especially when we've all seen talent in these players when they featured regularly.

I mean look at the youngsters and how they never given game time. Abeid, Bigirimana, Sammy, Vuckic just left rotting in the under 21s.

I just pray we can find a promising young guy that is really all about coaching talent and then letting them express themselves.

Reading that definitely made me lament Pardew more than anything.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Wallace on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 07:32:01 AM
We know they have been trying to do it by default by selling off Pardew's favourites such as Perch so that he would play Anita instead.

I can imagine there would have been questions as to why Cabella and MYM were not being played especially as they had paid big money by our standards for those players.

So we know there has been indirect involvement but whether they actually choose the team on a Saturday (cup games excepted) I am not so sure and if so they are pretty lousy at it.

I wonder which prospective manager told Barton that.  He'll know McLaren because he spent some time at QPR but I can't imagine him confiding in Barton.  I can't think of any of the other known candidates knowing Barton.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: LV on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 07:35:26 AM
We know they have been trying to do it by default by selling off Pardew's favourites such as Perch so that he would play Anita instead.

I can imagine there would have been questions as to why Cabella and MYM were not being played especially as they had paid big money by our standards for those players.

So we know there has been indirect involvement but whether they actually choose the team on a Saturday (cup games excepted) I am not so sure and if so they are pretty lousy at it.

I wonder which prospective manager told Barton that.  He'll know McLaren because he spent some time at QPR but I can't imagine him confiding in Barton.  I can't think of any of the other known candidates knowing Barton.

It was mentioned in that Mail article when Hughton was sacked that Ashley and Llambias interfered in picking the team and in tactics when Hughton was manager and even when Keegan was there (although apparently Keegan had none of it).

I wonder if Barton got this from Remi Garde. He's got a lot of contacts in France now from his time at Marseille.

Edit - Sorry, Mirror article not Mail.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chris-hughton-sacked-newcastle-forced-3344724
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 08:47:57 AM
Ashley having a say in who plays, my word he hired Joe Kinnear.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 08:51:42 AM
This smug looking c*** will be delighted this morning, looking forward to giving Ashley his regular blowie and explaining how much he cut off the wage bill and confirmed to the stupid Geordie b******s that he's in charge.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 08:55:44 AM
It was fairly well documented at the time he took over that he 'didn't understand football' yet, now he's making a few quid, he feels he can pick the team.

f*** it, why not appoint himself head coach, assistant head coach, head coachs fluffer and be done with it.

f***ing pack of c***s honestly.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 08:57:07 AM
It was fairly well documented at the time he took over that he 'didn't understand football' yet, now he's making a few quid, he feels he can pick the team.

f*** it, why not appoint himself head coach, assistant head coach, head coachs fluffer and be done with it.

f***ing pack of c***s honestly.

Didn't the former owner of Crystal palace end up owning Brentford and made himself manager at some point?  Ron Noads I think he was called :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 09:18:31 AM
Another window where he also bangs on about how difficult it is to do business yet manages to force a player out of the club on the final day of the window without time for a replacement. I'm fairly certain ousting Santon hasn't been a spur of the moment decision, just another kick to the fanbase while we're down.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 09:52:03 AM
Another window where he also bangs on about how difficult it is to do business yet manages to force a player out of the club on the final day of the window without time for a replacement. I'm fairly certain ousting Santon hasn't been a spur of the moment decision, just another kick to the fanbase while we're down.

So hard to do business in Jan but forgets about the Jan window where we signed Sissoko, Gouffran, Debuchy and Haidara.

They were absolutely needed due to Pardew's ill management of the team and the totall lack of summer transfer activity.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 10:16:10 AM
Another window where he also bangs on about how difficult it is to do business yet manages to force a player out of the club on the final day of the window without time for a replacement. I'm fairly certain ousting Santon hasn't been a spur of the moment decision, just another kick to the fanbase while we're down.

So hard to do business in Jan but forgets about the Jan window where we signed Sissoko, Gouffran, Debuchy and Haidara.

They were absolutely needed due to Pardew's ill management of the team and the totall lack of summer transfer activity.



Funny how they're happy to spend money when they think the club is a risk but never spend it when they see an opportunity. Zero sporting ambition.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 10:16:35 AM
It is hard to do business when you enter negotiations with a bag of magic beans and a half arsed attitude.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 10:27:10 AM
I honestly think some of it isn't down to malice or greed as much as laziness. Charnley, Ashley, Lambias before them, they don't particularly seem to have any interest in football, even though the former is supposedly a fan. They don't seem excited about the prospect of new players, they certainly aren't interested in achieving footballing success. There's people who spend their leisure time playing Champ Man and following the transfer market, and I'm sure there are a lot of chairmen, managing directors and the like who are similarly motivated by the thrill of chasing a player who might do amazing things on the pitch. We're a business for whom football is not a priority. We're not in the entertainment industry. All our corporate staff are here because they accept that. So when this is just their day job, can they really be arsed going through all the paperwork to hire a new employee, negotiate, out maneuver other clubs, when they don't have any more motivation to do so than someone at a call centre does to fit in one last akward customer at the end of a shift? You'll still get paid, f*** it, just take the afternoon off and play golf.

There's not enough people with any kind of passion for the sport anywhere near the boardroom, and so they don't have the motivation or drive to achieve even basic progress and just coast through what should be the core aspects of their role with the minimum effort.

That's very well summed up. The club has been turned into a Sports Direct football club where the notion of competing, creating exciting football, aiming at a cup has been completely discarded. The staff are clearly all on bonuses for target related goals but its not about the nature of the football, it's about just how much you can trim costs but still bring in the same flow of cash.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: huss9 on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 10:40:21 AM
Fatty, Fatter and Fattest. All 3 of them are bare faced liars. Fatter talked in his chronicle "interview" about having a 25 man squad hence no new players in - thats now down to only 18 if you exclude long term injuries and jonas/chucky.

c***s, the lot of them. that LIAR LIAR LIAR banner needs updating and the chronicle need to pull their s***-stained tongues out.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gino14 on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 11:06:07 AM
The contempt for the fan base at times is unbelievable. They said once we weren't spending in the summer because we liked doing business in January. Now it's hard to do business in January. It's laughable and I think a very cynical way of skipping a transfer window every now and then. Just change the policy ever now and then, so you have your ready made excuse. They seem to think we're all stupid despite us all seeing right through them.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Village Idiot on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 11:15:25 AM
It was fairly well documented at the time he took over that he 'didn't understand football' yet, now he's making a few quid, he feels he can pick the team.

f*** it, why not appoint himself head coach, assistant head coach, head coachs fluffer and be done with it.

f***ing pack of c***s honestly.

Didn't the former owner of Crystal palace end up owning Brentford and made himself manager at some point?  Ron Noads I think he was called :lol:

We had a Russian millionaire attempting to do the same at several Spanish clubs. Since he didn't have UEFA badges he even posed as a photographer in order to be in the bench.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 11:18:53 AM
We know they have been trying to do it by default by selling off Pardew's favourites such as Perch so that he would play Anita instead.

I can imagine there would have been questions as to why Cabella and MYM were not being played especially as they had paid big money by our standards for those players.

So we know there has been indirect involvement but whether they actually choose the team on a Saturday (cup games excepted) I am not so sure and if so they are pretty lousy at it.

I wonder which prospective manager told Barton that.  He'll know McLaren because he spent some time at QPR but I can't imagine him confiding in Barton.  I can't think of any of the other known candidates knowing Barton.

Hoddle?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gino14 on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 11:21:08 AM
It's something Harry Redknapp might have told someone like Barton now they've known each other a while.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 3 February 2015, 11:36:06 AM
It was fairly well documented at the time he took over that he 'didn't understand football' yet, now he's making a few quid, he feels he can pick the team.

f*** it, why not appoint himself head coach, assistant head coach, head coachs fluffer and be done with it.

f***ing pack of c***s honestly.

Didn't the former owner of Crystal palace end up owning Brentford and made himself manager at some point?  Ron Noads I think he was called :lol:

We had a Russian millionaire attempting to do the same at several Spanish clubs. Since he didn't have UEFA badges he even posed as a photographer in order to be in the bench.


Absolute control freaks.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:41:39 PM
Quote
“On that basis we felt that some of the chants that were aimed at him at the Crystal Palace game were not helpful or indeed deserved.

“What we would ask is for the final 13 games the supporters get behind John and get behind the team.

“We acknowledge that what happened at Palace was from a small group of fans, but we would encourage everyone to focus on getting behind John and the staff and team. It will make a real difference.”

f*** off c***. Cheek of this guy.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-managing-director-lee-8666360
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:43:41 PM
Hope his head catches fire and the only liquid nearby is rancid cooking oil.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:44:53 PM
Thought Lie would have thought that the "are you Pardew in disguise" chant would have been endearing, considering they had no plans of sacking the c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC! :'( "
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:53:51 PM
As bad as the rest of them. No doubt Penfold has been instructed to say this by his master.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:54:14 PM
Thought Lie would have thought that the "are you Pardew in disguise" chant would have been endearing, considering they had no plans of sacking the c***.
Can't help but feel they have no intention of no hiring Carver full time either.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:55:07 PM
fuming at that "small of group of fans" bullshit, f*** off.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:56:24 PM
Never comments on owt but quick as you like when it's an excuse to have a pop at the fans.

Absolutely taking the p*ss in true regime fashion.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: reefatoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:56:44 PM
Slating those dedicated away fans that always offer so much support is a moronic move from the daft bald c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:57:55 PM
Are we going for the ugliest backroom and boardroom staff award?  Carver and his touchline goons are bad enough and the photo accompanying that article looks like a peek inside Jim Henson's workshop.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 07:59:28 PM
One day the fans will rise and storm that directors box.

Pants will be soiled.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: cp40 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:00:06 PM
Are we going for the ugliest backroom and boardroom staff award?  Carver and his touchline goons are bad enough and the photo accompanying that article looks like a peek inside Jim Henson's workshop.

Is Charnley with his bird?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: midds on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:01:25 PM
Imagine paying hundreds of pounds a year for the privilege of being told what you can and can't cheer by this little fat c***? :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: nemtizz on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Wish someone would snap this thumb.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Toon Hoser on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:03:15 PM
Are we going for the ugliest backroom and boardroom staff award?  Carver and his touchline goons are bad enough and the photo accompanying that article looks like a peek inside Jim Henson's workshop.

:lol:

(http://i62.tinypic.com/zoc3eg.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:05:38 PM
Oh to be a lunatic Eastern European fanbase who would chant s*** against this c*** for 90 minutes on Saturday.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:06:10 PM
Are we going for the ugliest backroom and boardroom staff award?  Carver and his touchline goons are bad enough and the photo accompanying that article looks like a peek inside Jim Henson's workshop.

Is Charnley with his bird?

She's an utter horror, like.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:07:48 PM
Simultaneously ignoring the gaping holes in the squad, the incompetence of the manager AND implying that if the fans don't get behind the team we could have a s*** run in. Impressive c***ing.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:09:54 PM
Oh to be a lunatic Eastern European fanbase who would chant s*** against this c*** for 90 minutes on Saturday.
Aye, to be honest if we were an eastern European club the ownership would be f***ed.

They'd have to sell.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: midds on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:10:16 PM
Simultaneously ignoring the gaping holes in the squad, the incompetence of the manager AND implying that if the fans don't get behind the team we could have a s*** run in. Impressive c***ing.

f*** off, we could have had 9 points from those games. :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: LV on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:11:30 PM
Livid at these quotes from Gollum.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ElDiablo on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:18:26 PM
One chant that lasted about 30 seconds. :lol:

f*** off and die.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:20:17 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if they genuinely thought appointing a Geordie would appease everyone and everything such is their lack of touch with anything bar the profit margins.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:20:33 PM
They're touchy as f***, the chants should be doubled every match.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Mattoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:22:30 PM
I hope enough read this to get a decent volume of abuse aimed at the fat f***!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:23:12 PM
They're touchy as f***, the chants should be doubled every match.
This. At least they've let us know now that they noticed that the away fans don't want him. Keep it up, keep putting the pressure on Carver and the c***s above him :thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: BottledDog on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:24:45 PM
Are we going for the ugliest backroom and boardroom staff award?  Carver and his touchline goons are bad enough and the photo accompanying that article looks like a peek inside Jim Henson's workshop.

Is Charnley with his bird?

She's an utter horror, like.

She? Harsh.

Unless 'she's' a spitting dabs, that's Freddy Shepherd letting his bangs grow out.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:25:29 PM
The levels of :anguish: when the support the team not the regime lot get a hold of this.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:36:22 PM
Simultaneously ignoring the gaping holes in the squad, the incompetence of the manager AND implying that if the fans don't get behind the team we could have a s*** run in. Impressive c***ing.
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:41:44 PM

I'm glad this c*** is doing a good job to show himself off as an utter c***
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: thenige on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:44:26 PM
Was at the Palace game, don't think there wasn't anything too harsh. Unless Charnley thinks being called "Pardew in disguise" is an insult? :D
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:46:26 PM
Are we going for the ugliest backroom and boardroom staff award?  Carver and his touchline goons are bad enough and the photo accompanying that article looks like a peek inside Jim Henson's workshop.

:lol:

(http://i62.tinypic.com/zoc3eg.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:47:45 PM
Charnley better hope his bird isn't reading the comments like.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: midds on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:51:24 PM
Charnley better hope his bird isn't reading the comments like.

Wouldn't worry. She'll know he's got a cock like a walnut whip anyway.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: magpie1892 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 08:52:00 PM
Charnley better hope his bird isn't reading the comments like.

He's got a bird?!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Varadi on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 09:01:19 PM
This prick just has to be on the f***ing windup.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 09:29:01 PM
What a f***ing c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Chris_R on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 09:32:30 PM
Charnley better hope his bird isn't reading the comments like.

He's got a bird?!

If you can't get a girl to f*** you when you're managing director of Newcastle United, you really need to give up on life.

The fact that he's got that title and is still hanging out the back of that moose shows he can't even sell himself very well, so no wonder he's doing such a s*** job for Newcastle.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:06:14 PM
Not going to pull much with that tie like.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:21:09 PM
Charnley better hope his bird isn't reading the comments like.

He's got a bird?!

If you can't get a girl to f*** you when you're managing director of Newcastle United, you really need to give up on life.

The fact that he's got that title and is still hanging out the back of that moose shows he can't even sell himself very well, so no wonder he's doing such a s*** job for Newcastle.

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Incandenza on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:35:20 PM
There has been some tangible positives since Charnley replaced Lambias. We seem to have loosened up slightly in the transfer market, bringing in nine players spending £12 million on Cabella. He has also payed lip service to improving the clubs communication and a appointing a decent manager.

Lets give the guy a chance and see if he puts his money where his mouth is before we start insulting him. We'll find out just about everything we need to know about him - good or bad - in the summer when the managerial situation is resolved.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:37:29 PM
£10m net this season, loose as f*** is young Lee.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:37:33 PM
School holidays again.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:37:37 PM
There has been some tangible positives since Charnley replaced Lambias. We seem to have loosened up slightly in the transfer market, bringing in nine players spending £12 million on Cabella. He has also payed lip service to improving the clubs communication and a appointing a decent manager.

Lets give the guy a chance and see if he puts his money where his mouth is before we start insulting him. We'll find out just about everything we need to know about him - good or bad - in the summer when the managerial situation is resolved.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: zicomartin on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:38:48 PM
 He's just a "s*** Llambeezy"

If only we had a song for that.   :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:40:36 PM
There has been some tangible positives since Charnley replaced Lambias. We seem to have loosened up slightly in the transfer market, bringing in nine players spending £12 million on Cabella. He has also payed lip service to improving the clubs communication and a appointing a decent manager.

Lets give the guy a chance and see if he puts his money where his mouth is before we start insulting him. We'll find out just about everything we need to know about him - good or bad - in the summer when the managerial situation is resolved.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

I just don't understand how people can be as horrifically misinformed as this in 2015.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:42:47 PM
There has been some tangible positives since Charnley replaced Lambias. We seem to have loosened up slightly in the transfer market, bringing in nine players spending £12 million on Cabella. He has also payed lip service to improving the clubs communication and a appointing a decent manager.

Lets give the guy a chance and see if he puts his money where his mouth is before we start insulting him. We'll find out just about everything we need to know about him - good or bad - in the summer when the managerial situation is resolved.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

I just don't understand how people can be as horrifically misinformed as this in 2015.

Must have been in solitary confinement for the best part of a decade.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:43:19 PM
Quote from: Charnley, on his first day in the job (April 2014)
We don't look at transfer windows in isolation, but rather as a full trading year, and our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad.

Also said:
Quote
Our immediate priority of course is to finish this season as strongly as possible. Our minimum target for this campaign was a top ten finish, but I can assure our supporters that everyone at Newcastle United will do their utmost to ensure the Club finishes in the highest league position it can.

Hmm.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Chris_R on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:50:04 PM
There has been some tangible positives since Charnley replaced Lambias. We seem to have loosened up slightly in the transfer market, bringing in nine players spending £12 million on Cabella. He has also payed lip service to improving the clubs communication and a appointing a decent manager.

Lets give the guy a chance and see if he puts his money where his mouth is before we start insulting him. We'll find out just about everything we need to know about him - good or bad - in the summer when the managerial situation is resolved.

Oh my.

He's said he's going to improve communication then all he's done is tell the fans to be nice to John. :D Thanks Lee, that's great.

Plus his idea of appointing a decent manager was to not appoint one and give Carver the gig instead. Remember the 80 applicants he shouted his mouth off about? This is the result. So far Charnley is failing. He'll get some slack if and when he starts succeeding, not whilst he's doing s*** on the grounds that he might start doing better later if we're nice about him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:52:25 PM
There has been some tangible positives since Charnley replaced Lambias. We seem to have loosened up slightly in the transfer market, bringing in nine players spending £12 million on Cabella. He has also payed lip service to improving the clubs communication and a appointing a decent manager.

Lets give the guy a chance and see if he puts his money where his mouth is before we start insulting him. We'll find out just about everything we need to know about him - good or bad - in the summer when the managerial situation is resolved.

Yeah mate it's been class. Let Santon and MYM go. Boss imo
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: Charnley, on his first day in the job (April 2014)
We don't look at transfer windows in isolation, but rather as a full trading year, and our intention for the first team is to sign one or two players per year to strengthen the squad.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:53:01 PM
We'll see in the <insert next transfer window>. :lol:

As if people are still actually expending calories thinking that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Incandenza on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:54:43 PM
I'm saying we should start singing his praises or anything, just that its early days and the jury is still out. This 6 months of purgatory could be a prelude to getting someone decent in the summer. Bear in mind, its not Charnley's fault that we had no decent coaches at the club to take charge in the interim.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: JB on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:55:21 PM
I'm saying we should start singing his praises or anything, just that its early days and the jury is still out. This 6 months of purgatory could be a prelude to getting someone decent in the summer. Bear in mind, its not Charnley's fault that we had no decent coaches at the club to take charge in the interim.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:59:37 PM
Oh do f*** off.

As if Penfold f***ing matters man. They all report to the same c***.

There's only one person running the show at NUFC.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 10:59:59 PM
I'm saying we should start singing his praises or anything, just that its early days and the jury is still out. This 6 months of purgatory could be a prelude to getting someone decent in the summer. Bear in mind, its not Charnley's fault that we had no decent coaches at the club to take charge in the interim.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:00:19 PM
Wow :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:00:48 PM
I'm saying we should start singing his praises or anything, just that its early days and the jury is still out. This 6 months of purgatory could be a prelude to getting someone decent in the summer. Bear in mind, its not Charnley's fault that we had no decent coaches at the club to take charge in the interim.

You're beyond help.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:01:19 PM
He had one job, appoint a new head coach. Our head coach is now John Carver.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:02:52 PM
Wibble.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Chris_R on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:04:38 PM
He had one job, appoint a new head coach. Our head coach is now John Carver.

:lol:

Not only that, but he admits he had EIGHTY serious applicants from within the football world and he still chose Carver.

Probably 79 of them were under contract so their CVs went straight in the bin, the cheap tosser.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:06:07 PM
So blatant that carver is going to get the gig.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Incandenza on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:10:58 PM
Ok, for the sake of argument. Lets imagine you're in his shoes:

Several highly rated managers will be available in the summer. The candidates available in January are Remi Garde, Bernd Schuster and Bruno Labaddia. Garde wants his coaches from Lyon, but they don't want to release them until the summer. Ashley is too much of a tight b****** to force their hand now. The possibilty of an interim manager is floated but Ashley won't release funds for it when we can just appoint one of the coaches to the same role.

This leaves four options. 1) Appoint Schuster 2) Appoint Labaddia  3) Leave Carver in charge until the summer 4) Leave Beardsley in charge until the summer

What would you have done?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:12:34 PM
Didn't realise only four managers existed on the planet
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:13:22 PM
Ok, for the sake of argument. Lets imagine you're in his shoes:

Several highly rated managers will be available in the summer. The candidates available in January are Remi Garde, Bernd Schuster and Bruno Labaddia. Garde wants his coaches from Lyon, but they don't want to release them until the summer. Ashley is too much of a tight b****** to force their hand now. The possibilty of an interim manager is floated but Ashley won't release funds for it when we can just appoint one of the coaches to the same role.

This leaves four options. 1) Appoint Schuster 2) Appoint Labaddia  3) Leave Carver in charge until the summer 4) Leave Beardsley in charge until the summer

What would you have done?

Like I said you're beyond help. Flabbergasted that anyone believes the above is true.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: levelsevenlee on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:13:49 PM
I'm thinking about changing my name  :undecided:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Incandenza on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:14:47 PM
Based on what we heard from various media sources, that seems to be who they picked out as the best candidates out of the applicants available immediately.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:14:57 PM
Hypothetical situation:

The club has only one right back and arguably one left back if dummett covers CB. Do you:

A) force out your first choice left back

B) not do that
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:15:00 PM
Or 5) Grow a set of balls and tell Mike that by buying the right manager now he'll make the money back in finishing places and, even if that doesn't happen, that the fat c*** has enough money in his f***ing mattress to cover it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:15:51 PM
Hypothetical situation:

The club needs 3 CBs, do you?

A) sign some

B) sign nobody
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:18:47 PM
Based on what we heard from various media sources, that seems to be who they picked out as the best candidates out of the applicants available immediately.

The club employ Bishop to take care of the media so that the more idiotic proportion of our support are appeased. The club systematically lie time after time - why would you choose to ignore this?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:21:16 PM
Hypothetical situation:

The club needs 3 CBs, do you?

A) sign some

B) sign nobody

C) Give your best one away for peanuts.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Incandenza on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:25:46 PM
Based on what we heard from various media sources, that seems to be who they picked out as the best candidates out of the applicants available immediately.

The club employ Bishop to take care of the media so that the more idiotic proportion of our support are appeased. The club systematically lie time after time - why would you choose to ignore this?

Because I can't fathom how anyone, even at this club, would be stupid enough to appoint him full time. Ashley is sucking the soul out of the club but he does at least to have a reasonable plan for keeping us a stable premier league club and making John Carver permanent head coach doesn't fit in with that plan at all.

Also Charnley has took some veiled shots at Pardew in his public interviews. It would be odd to acknowledge Pardew is a s*** only to appoint Carver in the summer.

I'm 95% certain Carver won't get the gig. Feel free to call me stupid in 6 months.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:26:57 PM
I sometimes think nobody could be stupid enough to appoint Carver as well, but then I remember they most probably are.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:29:57 PM
Based on what we heard from various media sources, that seems to be who they picked out as the best candidates out of the applicants available immediately.

The club employ Bishop to take care of the media so that the more idiotic proportion of our support are appeased. The club systematically lie time after time - why would you choose to ignore this?

Because I can't fathom how anyone, even at this club, would be stupid enough to appoint him full time. Ashley is sucking the soul out of the club but he does at least to have a reasonable plan for keeping us a stable premier league club and making John Carver permanent head coach doesn't fit in with that plan at all.

Also Charnley has took some veiled shots at Pardew in his public interviews. It would be odd to acknowledge Pardew is a s*** only to appoint Carver in the summer.

I'm 95% certain Carver won't get the gig. Feel free to call me stupid in 6 months.

They made Joe Kinnear manager man. I'm 100% convinced JC is getting the job in the Summer. Ashley will have a manager on 1980s wages, he'll f***ing love it.

EDIT: They haven't got a clue about football - as such, they'll believe JC will keep us up.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Chris_R on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:29:57 PM
I sometimes think nobody could be stupid enough to appoint Carver as well, but then I remember they most probably are.

And that they already have.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Chris_R on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:33:10 PM
They see the manager as the least important person at the club. He's just there to stand on the sideline and do the interviews.

They genuinely don't think a good manager will make enough difference, at least not enough difference to bother trying to find one.

All they want is someone cheap who will do as he's told because he's so grateful to have the job. They had that in Pardew and they've got it again in Carver.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:33:36 PM
They see the manager as the last important person at the club. He's just there to stand on the sideline and do the interviews.

They genuinely don't think a good manager will make enough difference, at least not enough difference to bother trying to find one.

All they want is someone cheap who will do as he's told because he's so grateful to have the job. They had that in Pardew and they've got it again in Carver.

:thup:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:35:00 PM
TBH, if your only ambition is to stay up then that conclusion about the manager might not be far from the truth. As long as you buy good enough players to win 10 games and get a few draws.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: axel on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:41:45 PM
Ok, for the sake of argument. Lets imagine you're in his shoes:

Several highly rated managers will be available in the summer. The candidates available in January are Remi Garde, Bernd Schuster and Bruno Labaddia. Garde wants his coaches from Lyon, but they don't want to release them until the summer. Ashley is too much of a tight b****** to force their hand now. The possibilty of an interim manager is floated but Ashley won't release funds for it when we can just appoint one of the coaches to the same role.

This leaves four options. 1) Appoint Schuster 2) Appoint Labaddia  3) Leave Carver in charge until the summer 4) Leave Beardsley in charge until the summer

What would you have done?
Wake up. Seriously. People like you who give these people new chances and wont face reality are just as big a problem as JC, Charnley and Ashley is.The reality is  that these people don't give a s*** about the club and the point is to make as much money as possible with investing as little as possible. Don't act like those four options were the only options. If they wanted a class manager they would've appointed one.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:42:17 PM
Hypothetical situation:

The club needs 3 CBs, do you?

A) sign some

B) sign nobody

C) Give your best one away for peanuts.

I like the way Ian W thinks
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:45:34 PM
It's past the point where you can be reasonable with f***ing knackers like this. They're thick as f***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Andymc1 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:46:42 PM
It's past the point where you can be reasonable with f***ing knackers like this. They're thick as f***.

I find it very difficult to restrain myself. There seems to be quite a few knackers around recently.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:50:30 PM
Promises to improve communication. Comes out from under his rock to communicate and doesn't update fans on the manager search that is the single most important issue at the club. It's almost as if there is no manager search.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:51:47 PM
Because I can't fathom how anyone, even at this club, would be stupid enough to

Haha.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Incandenza on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:56:16 PM
A lot has changed since Pardew was appointed. Lambias, the man who made that nepotistic appointment, has f***ed off to Rangers. Graham Carr, the sole shining ray of hope in the club hierarchy, seems to have grown in standing and influence. Our finances are in better shape. Its not that difficult to be optimistic about the managerial situation. We did interview Remi Garde, remember.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:58:13 PM
lol
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: axel on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:58:57 PM
Ok. You're a f***ing troll.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 17 February 2015, 11:59:13 PM
I would honestly get a better conversation about football out of my mother.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 12:04:44 AM
A lot has changed since Pardew was appointed. Lambias, the man who made that nepotistic appointment, has f***ed off to Rangers. Graham Carr, the sole shining ray of hope in the club hierarchy, seems to have grown in standing and influence. Our finances are in better shape. Its not that difficult to be optimistic about the managerial situation. We did interview Remi Garde, remember.

You make it sound as though Charnley has had absolutely no influence on the club and its standard array of ludicrous decisions over the last 10 months he's been in charge. He's been at the club for around 16 years, so don't tell me he's just finding his feet. You only have to look at the statements he's put out in his time as MD (including on his first day) to know he's just as f***ing clueless as Ashley and the rest of the c***s he's appointed.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 12:43:35 AM
Clueless or not he's unshakeably pliable and utterly complicit. Someone to make the day-to-day decisions that will see his salary rise as Ashley's financial targets for the club business are satisfied.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Bert Shaft on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 01:21:12 AM
A lot has changed since Pardew was appointed. Lambias, the man who made that nepotistic appointment, has f***ed off to Rangers. Graham Carr, the sole shining ray of hope in the club hierarchy, seems to have grown in standing and influence. Our finances are in better shape. Its not that difficult to be optimistic about the managerial situation. We did interview Remi Garde, remember.


Ooo, our finances are in better shape.
We can give our "balance sheet champions banner" another airing soon. Goody gumdrops. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: sparkzter on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 01:44:20 AM
This is why things will never change, far to many fans think like this guy, deluded and "let's see what happens in the next window" mentality. Stopped my season ticket this year, totally depressed the thought of not going but just had enough.  Charnley is yet another bullshit mouthpiece appointed by Ashley.
We have evidence since the start of Ashley's ownership at the club that we are constantly lied to and given false hope and promises yet some people continue to believe it'll get better and things might change - idiots.
The contempt of the fans is unreal, what other business in the world could treat its customers like this and get away with it, only in football could it happen and they fact that we let it is tragic.
yup, way too many deluded fans at our club for anything to change, sad times.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: STM on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 07:41:17 AM
Has all of the hallmarks of a John Carver appointment.

Just wait until we release our financial results,  there will be another smug statement.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: EthiGeordie on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 07:58:09 AM
Nothing wrong to give vote of confidence. All of you who like to whine about things please hold the thoughts until we are mathematically safe.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 08:24:27 AM
You bald, speccy b******.
Get out of our club
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 08:29:24 AM
Damning with the faintest of praise when Ethi's agreeing with you like.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 08:52:52 AM
Starting to really dislike this puppet.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 09:12:32 AM
Promises to improve communication. Comes out from under his rock to communicate and doesn't update fans on the manager search that is the single most important issue at the club. It's almost as if there is no manager search.

There isn't a manager search, its Carver.  Carver has the gigg.

Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ujpest doza on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 09:23:53 AM
Charnley better hope his bird isn't reading the comments like.

He's got a bird?!

If you can't get a girl to f*** you when you're managing director of Newcastle United, you really need to give up on life.

The fact that he's got that title and is still hanging out the back of that moose shows he can't even sell himself very well, so no wonder he's doing such a s*** job for Newcastle.
I didn't think that was his lass in the photo.
I thought it was the NUFC Press Liaison Wendy Taylor??
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Lotus on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 09:32:44 AM
Quote
“On that basis we felt that some of the chants that were aimed at him at the Crystal Palace game were not helpful or indeed deserved.

“What we would ask is for the final 13 games the supporters get behind John and get behind the team.

“We acknowledge that what happened at Palace was from a small group of fans, but we would encourage everyone to focus on getting behind John and the staff and team. It will make a real difference.”

f*** off c***. Cheek of this guy.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-managing-director-lee-8666360

The bit that really bites is that he had ample opportunity and funds to 'get behind John' by signing a player or two there by making JC's job significantly easier. Him and the fat f**k didn't bother but they still want everyone else to make the effort.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: cannybagoftudor on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 09:45:54 AM
Ok, for the sake of argument. Lets imagine you're in his shoes:

Several highly rated managers will be available in the summer. The candidates available in January are Remi Garde, Bernd Schuster and Bruno Labaddia. Garde wants his coaches from Lyon, but they don't want to release them until the summer. Ashley is too much of a tight b****** to force their hand now. The possibilty of an interim manager is floated but Ashley won't release funds for it when we can just appoint one of the coaches to the same role.

This leaves four options. 1) Appoint Schuster 2) Appoint Labaddia  3) Leave Carver in charge until the summer 4) Leave Beardsley in charge until the summer

What would you have done?

OK what you do is approach de Boer or Garde or Tuchel or Benitez and get them signed up on a pre- contract ready to annoucne at the end of the season. You tell the fans and Bob's your uncle.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 10:02:32 AM
http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/02/nufc-pr-campaign-ease-john-carver-job-long-term/
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ATB on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 12:43:53 PM
 :clap:

 :(
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: EthiGeordie on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Curb your enthusiasm

You will love your club and Ashley better after that.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Chris_R on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 01:36:14 PM
Incandenza is showing severe "battered wife syndrome".

How many times do they club have to slap you down, tell you you're worth nothing and refuse to look the side you're on? We've been in this relationship for over 7 years and if you can't tell by now that this is how they are, that we're already seeing the real them, you're a lost cause my friend. Thinking "Oh, but they might change" is a waste of time and energy.

Yes, it's not an easy relationship to get out of because it's probably more like an abusive parent or child than a partner you can actually walk away from. But you have to see them for what they are and stop enabling and supporting this kind of behaviour from them because, let me tell you: THEY WILL NOT CHANGE.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:18:41 PM
Never fully understood this well at least Ashley has improved our finances and stabilised the club.

Considering we are by default getting an extra 50 million a year due to the ridiculous TV money, it would take some ridiculous financial moves to send us into the red. Ashley has just been extremely lucky that he is currently residing over the most lucrative years in the leagues history and it due to get even better.

If he isn't making record breaking profits every year for the club then there is something massively wrong.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:31:45 PM
We have more debt than when he first arrived, fact.
The debt has not been reduced year on year despite increased revenues year on year, fact.
We pay interest on the loans through SD advertising in the stadium, fact.

How anyone can defend the finances clearly has no clue about what's actually happening.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: Wullie on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:40:33 PM
Never fully understood this well at least Ashley has improved our finances and stabilised the club.

Considering we are by default getting an extra 50 million a year due to the ridiculous TV money, it would take some ridiculous financial moves to send us into the red. Ashley has just been extremely lucky that he is currently residing over the most lucrative years in the leagues history and it due to get even better.

If he isn't making record breaking profits every year for the club then there is something massively wrong.

Aye exactly. Like hiring someone as your personal financial advisor on the basis that they'd previously won the lottery and therefore knew their stuff.

It's basically been the case from the start. He hasn't necessarily made better financial decisions than Shepherd, he just had the money in the bank to cover his back when he lost the club a fortune by getting us relegated.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:48:12 PM
Has anyone seen a Chronicle article where they have been critical of the lcub in any way lately? Not talking about matches either, just seen a Chron bloke suggesting they dont write pro club stories and have pages of words against them :lol:

Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:54:57 PM
I don't really understand why the local press aren't constantly hammering the club. They have nothing to lose, they don't have any decent sources anyway and they constantly lie.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:59:50 PM
Well it looks like the chronicle prefers to be in bed with the "club" than actually do its job.

This is why i refuse to buy it or read it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 03:08:03 PM
I don't really understand why the local press aren't constantly hammering the club. They have nothing to lose, they don't have any decent sources anyway and they constantly lie.

:thup: Sadly they wouldnt have got specially selected questions and answers from Charnley twice in 4 weeks otherwise mind. The fact they havent slaughtered the club for the whole manager/HC mess and will no doubt tell us that huge profits are a good thing as we slide down the table with half a team is irrelevent to them. They get their free tickets to games again which is the only thing they wanted.

This relentless PR campaign is a pisstake, hope it comes back to hurt them badly some day
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 03:14:28 PM
Curb your enthusiasm

You will love your club and Ashley better after that.

your maw is bald
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 03:16:00 PM
Never fully understood this well at least Ashley has improved our finances and stabilised the club.

Considering we are by default getting an extra 50 million a year due to the ridiculous TV money, it would take some ridiculous financial moves to send us into the red. Ashley has just been extremely lucky that he is currently residing over the most lucrative years in the leagues history and it due to get even better.

If he isn't making record breaking profits every year for the club then there is something massively wrong.

Aye exactly. Like hiring someone as your personal financial advisor on the basis that they'd previously won the lottery and therefore knew their stuff.

It's basically been the case from the start. He hasn't necessarily made better financial decisions than Shepherd, he just had the money in the bank to cover his back when he lost the club a fortune by getting us relegated.


Shocking how many people's memories have been slowly altered over time by the regime, and they forget that it was these c***s who got us relegated in the first place by their catastrophic mismanagement of the hierarchical structure at the club. Appointing real estate goons and used car salesmen in roles which have never made any sense in English footballing history, and then f***ing about majorly with the managerial role.

f*** the lot of them. It's amazing how well their propaganda machine has been winning though, Ashley must be part of the dictators' conferences where keynote speakers like Kim Jong Un and Stalin give lessons in PR.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 03:38:12 PM
Genuine question, has EthiGeordie being doing this pretend account for like 8 years? I don't get it, no one's once found it funny.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 04:04:04 PM
It's not pretend IIRC. It was investigated and he's very, very real.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 10:02:13 PM
Ethi's part of the fabric, lay off.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 11:05:18 PM
Try nar.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: EthiGeordie on Thursday 19 February 2015, 05:49:20 AM
What makes you guys I am not real. Just cause I don't think and act like you lot? Dont kid yourself Icarus. concentrate on the big point not on me.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 19 February 2015, 08:09:21 AM
Mainly because it's always mentioned as being a pretend account, but I don't know why. I'm asking because it doesn't seem that way and you've never once seemed any different than how you always are.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: EthiGeordie on Thursday 19 February 2015, 08:19:18 AM
Fair point the likes of Dave started to downplay my very existence and people start follow through.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 19 February 2015, 09:53:41 AM
This is some X Files s*** right here.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 19 February 2015, 09:55:28 AM
Quote
downplay my very existence


Alreet Jesus, settle down  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 19 February 2015, 12:38:24 PM
Never fully understood this well at least Ashley has improved our finances and stabilised the club.

Considering we are by default getting an extra 50 million a year due to the ridiculous TV money, it would take some ridiculous financial moves to send us into the red. Ashley has just been extremely lucky that he is currently residing over the most lucrative years in the leagues history and it due to get even better.

If he isn't making record breaking profits every year for the club then there is something massively wrong.

Aye exactly. Like hiring someone as your personal financial advisor on the basis that they'd previously won the lottery and therefore knew their stuff.

It's basically been the case from the start. He hasn't necessarily made better financial decisions than Shepherd, he just had the money in the bank to cover his back when he lost the club a fortune by getting us relegated.


Shocking how many people's memories have been slowly altered over time by the regime, and they forget that it was these c***s who got us relegated in the first place by their catastrophic mismanagement of the hierarchical structure at the club. Appointing real estate goons and used car salesmen in roles which have never made any sense in English footballing history, and then f***ing about majorly with the managerial role.

f*** the lot of them. It's amazing how well their propaganda machine has been winning though, Ashley must be part of the dictators' conferences where keynote speakers like Kim Jong Un and Stalin give lessons in PR.
You talk about propaganda machine but for me the really telling thing about the regime is what they can get away with by saying nothing, and they f***ing know it. Strategically the worst thing they can do from their perspective is let charnley start mouthing off every week as it's already getting people's backs up. Having no one speak removes any point of focus for anger for the fans. Works perfectly.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 19 February 2015, 07:51:53 PM
What makes you guys I am not real. Just cause I don't think and act like you lot? Dont kid yourself Icarus. concentrate on the big point not on me.

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 19 February 2015, 07:54:27 PM
That's too good :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Beren on Thursday 19 February 2015, 07:56:55 PM
100% destroyed :mackems: KI should delete his account after that beatdown.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 19 February 2015, 07:58:19 PM
Having had numerous squabbles with KI in the past, I'm annoyed I never thought of that. :laugh:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 19 February 2015, 08:05:18 PM
:lol:

"Don't be blue, Peter".
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 19 February 2015, 11:46:28 PM
:lol:

"Don't be blue, Peter".

:lol:

Perfect reference.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 19 February 2015, 11:50:08 PM
:lol:

"Don't be blue, Peter".

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 19 February 2015, 11:56:57 PM
What makes you guys I am not real. Just cause I don't think and act like you lot? Dont kid yourself Icarus. concentrate on the big point not on me.

:lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Mick on Saturday 21 February 2015, 07:38:14 PM
We're s*** from top to bottom and this useless b****** is as bad as anybody at the club.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Beren on Saturday 21 February 2015, 07:39:06 PM
Has the "leave Britney alone" pic been shopped yet?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Numbers on Saturday 21 February 2015, 08:31:51 PM
Actually appointed Carver, Clueless w*****.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 22 February 2015, 10:19:42 AM
Are we allowed to be mean yet? I wouldn't want to upset the ol' speccy, cue-ball f***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: axel on Saturday 25 April 2015, 03:40:08 PM
Should target this b****** with some chants as well, since MA is never present.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Roger Kint on Saturday 25 April 2015, 03:41:33 PM
'He looks like a thumb, he looks like a thuuumb. Liar Charnley, he looks like a thumb'
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: TheGuv on Saturday 25 April 2015, 03:46:38 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: number9shirt on Saturday 25 April 2015, 05:57:43 PM
(http://www.nufcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/lee-charnley-close-up-295x300.jpg)

His chin looks like balls.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 25 April 2015, 05:59:00 PM
Leave penfold alone!
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 25 April 2015, 05:59:44 PM
(http://www.nufcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/lee-charnley-close-up-295x300.jpg)

His chin looks like balls.
Looks like a fat Al murray.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Hog on Saturday 25 April 2015, 06:03:07 PM
(http://www.nufcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/lee-charnley-close-up-295x300.jpg)

His chin looks like balls.

His whole head is a giant testicle
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Bert Shaft on Saturday 25 April 2015, 07:51:05 PM
Liar reminds me of

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/bunterDM0602_228x313.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 26 April 2015, 01:37:49 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-9121531

Rattled
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Sunday 26 April 2015, 01:45:33 PM
How pathetic.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Twinport53 on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:13:09 PM
Shame he didnt explain what the mistakes were. Like hiring Carver and getting rid of Hatem, MYM and Santon.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: BlueStar on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:14:42 PM
Would be a good question to ask.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:17:04 PM
So when is the meeting now?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Nobody on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:29:54 PM
But I thought protest and boycotts didn't matter?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: magpie1892 on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:41:05 PM
Would be a good question to ask.

If ncj had any f***ing journalists worthy of the name, yes.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: midds on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:47:20 PM
I'd absolutely love it if they started the meeting as per then after about a minute or two all of the fans got up and walked out in silence. 
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Anon on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:48:59 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-9121531

Rattled

"Why did you publicly announce a checklist for the new head coach and then appoint Carver who met precisely none of those criteria?"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Darth Crooks on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:51:41 PM
Quick lets get some more lies in before the end of the season! Claw a few sheep back.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: PCW1983 on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:51:50 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-9121531

Rattled

"Why did you publicly announce a checklist for the new head coach and then appoint Carver who met precisely none of those criteria?"

Just tell the c*** to f*** off. 

" Dear Mr Charnley,

   If you feel the language in this reply is inappropriate feel free to raise it with your local government official"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: EthiGeordie on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:53:17 PM
This whole episode turn out to be like the relegation season. "Mistakes has been made" was the right sentence they used back in a days.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Village Idiot on Sunday 26 April 2015, 02:55:56 PM
Nice, it definitely looks like the protests are getting to them. I wasn't expecting them to so much as blink until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 26 April 2015, 04:34:45 PM
partly its because charnley and his family live in the city and he is finding it difficult being seen in public. afraid things are going to get a lot more personal now that carver is getting attention. its him next.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 26 April 2015, 06:05:25 PM
f*** off charnley.  We heard the same guff from llambias.  "Mistakes were made" but they still run the club the same old way. 

If you care about nufc charnley, then resign.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Peppe on Sunday 26 April 2015, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: Pee Charnley
“Please be assured we want the same – we want to give you a football club you can be proud of and a team you feel passionate to support.”

I don't even know where to start with that. No you don't, you f***ing knob.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 26 April 2015, 08:34:54 PM
Hope he gets chibbed.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Gaz on Monday 27 April 2015, 02:41:23 PM
If someone wants to give him a call his number is on the following link ha, I have been watching Blyth quite a bit and couldnt remember who Michael had played for in League 2 and came across this website!

http://podiasports.com/player/michael-richardson/

Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 27 April 2015, 02:55:48 PM
It's a mobile number, I'm ringing it at 2 in the morning.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ianovthetoon on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:14:28 PM
Get it added on to a few telemarketing lists who will spam him from Indian call centres
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: GeordieAce on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:20:47 PM
If someone wants to give him a call his number is on the following link ha, I have been watching Blyth quite a bit and couldnt remember who Michael had played for in League 2 and came across this website!

http://podiasports.com/player/michael-richardson/

That actually is his number. Just added him to my phonebook and went on whatsapp. Its his picture like :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Wullie on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:23:32 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: 54 on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:27:49 PM
I reckon we should get a load of people to message him saying "Get out of our Club". Just 100 people at the same time, just the constant sound of his message tone going off for 10 minutes would drive him insane:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Gaz on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:28:09 PM
Professional as ever eh  :lol: :idiot2:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:28:26 PM
Settings>Mute
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: UncleBingo on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:30:01 PM
Just sent him a text simply saying "Quisling".
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Twinport53 on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:32:24 PM
Love his grey scale whats app photo. Like a moody teenager.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:50:38 PM
(http://www.imgur.com/Dut4nxU.png)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TheHoob on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:51:01 PM
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: TheGuv on Monday 27 April 2015, 03:51:20 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 27 April 2015, 04:12:00 PM
Someone drawer his image on their nob and take a pic, then text him it. saying this is "you"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: morla84 on Monday 27 April 2015, 04:33:39 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: binnsy on Monday 27 April 2015, 04:34:06 PM
would think he has changed him number recently, Richardson has been left a while now but then this is NUFC so it's probably still his
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ads on Monday 27 April 2015, 04:44:04 PM
I've just text him saying "Hi it's Mike, this is my new number. Lee, don't forget to ring Jurgen Klopp"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: Wullie on Monday 27 April 2015, 04:54:59 PM
would think he has changed him number recently, Richardson has been left a while now but then this is NUFC so it's probably still his

Doubt it, there's very little reason to change numbers these days unless it's leaked to an internet forum. I've had my number for nearly fifteen years.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - &quot;Stop being mean to JC!&quot;
Post by: midds on Monday 27 April 2015, 04:56:05 PM
would think he has changed him number recently, Richardson has been left a while now but then this is NUFC so it's probably still his

Doubt it, there's very little reason to change numbers these days unless it's leaked to an internet forum. I've had my number for nearly fifteen years.

Thank god it hasn't then.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 27 April 2015, 05:16:38 PM
He's off whatsapp now :lol: scared him off
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: nufcjb on Monday 27 April 2015, 05:32:24 PM
Damnit. Was just about to join in.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Frazzle on Monday 27 April 2015, 05:37:08 PM
would think he has changed him number recently, Richardson has been left a while now but then this is NUFC so it's probably still his

Doubt it, there's very little reason to change numbers these days unless it's leaked to an internet forum. I've had my number for nearly fifteen years.

Thank god it hasn't then.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Corrigan on Monday 27 April 2015, 06:51:14 PM
Damnit. Was just about to join in.

Just send him a text :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 27 April 2015, 07:52:48 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11566905/Newcastle-United-manager-John-Carver-and-managing-director-Lee-Charnley-under-threat-at-St-James-Park.html
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Monday 27 April 2015, 07:56:44 PM
Nah.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ryan on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:00:45 PM
(http://www.imgur.com/Dut4nxU.png)

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: chopey on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:05:34 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11566905/Newcastle-United-manager-John-Carver-and-managing-director-Lee-Charnley-under-threat-at-St-James-Park.html

You had me at "under threat"
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: sempuki on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:14:52 PM
Penfold must be seriously bricking it. Doesn't seem the strong type.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Dave on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:15:52 PM
Daft prick got his mug on telly earlier, he must be loving it.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:16:45 PM
He isn't taking calls.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: Noodles on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:22:30 PM
I've been sending him all sorts. No reply.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: UncleBingo on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:28:52 PM
I've been sending him all sorts. No reply.

Same here.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: magpie1892 on Monday 27 April 2015, 08:30:28 PM
I've been sending him all sorts. No reply.

Same here.

Me too.

No manners, the sod.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley - "Stop being mean to JC!"
Post by: axel on Monday 27 April 2015, 09:25:15 PM
From twitter. #textcharnley starting to spread

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDn_SUwWAAEGBfS.jpg)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Mick on Monday 27 April 2015, 09:34:59 PM
From twitter. #textcharnley starting to spread

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDn_SUwWAAEGBfS.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 27 April 2015, 09:37:04 PM
looool
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Monday 27 April 2015, 09:41:23 PM
That's f***ing clever
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Dokko on Monday 27 April 2015, 09:45:22 PM
From twitter. #textcharnley starting to spread

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDn_SUwWAAEGBfS.jpg)

:lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Monday 27 April 2015, 10:07:53 PM
It's a guy from my school man, he put another old classmate's number up :lol:

https://twitter.com/leerobson23

edit:

oh, he's not the original number but he also dished it out and has got people ringing him.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Monday 27 April 2015, 10:19:06 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 27 April 2015, 10:35:52 PM
It's definitely his number. Work phone.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Monday 27 April 2015, 10:36:57 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11566905/Newcastle-United-manager-John-Carver-and-managing-director-Lee-Charnley-under-threat-at-St-James-Park.html

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/153/7/f/wolf__s_evil_grin_gif_by_doublevtovka22-d52086s.gif)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Village Idiot on Monday 27 April 2015, 10:38:54 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11566905/Newcastle-United-manager-John-Carver-and-managing-director-Lee-Charnley-under-threat-at-St-James-Park.html

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/153/7/f/wolf__s_evil_grin_gif_by_doublevtovka22-d52086s.gif)

Quote
Steve McClaren seems certain to replace Carver in the summer, regardless of whether Derby County are promoted in the Championship play‑offs,

Pfeh.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Monday 27 April 2015, 10:42:49 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11566905/Newcastle-United-manager-John-Carver-and-managing-director-Lee-Charnley-under-threat-at-St-James-Park.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11566905/Newcastle-United-manager-John-Carver-and-managing-director-Lee-Charnley-under-threat-at-St-James-Park.html

Quote
Club insiders have told Telegraph Sport that Charnley repeatedly assured Ashley, and other members of the board, there was no chance that Newcastle could go down this season, even after Alan Pardew quit as manager to join Crystal Palace. The 37-year-old has been widely accused of complacency and that will not sit well with Ashley, whose ambition for the club is defined by one desire – to make sure they do not have to worry about relegation.

Definitely believe that. Charnley is clearly a complete idiot. Probably trying to get his pal Carver the gig the moron.

If it came down to Carver being the reason we didn't get Garde etc. that would be absolutely intolerable I swear.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: morla84 on Monday 27 April 2015, 10:53:53 PM
Thought he was older than 37
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 27 April 2015, 11:19:45 PM
He'll have aged another ten years this evening. :smugdog:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 27 April 2015, 11:25:36 PM
So not only are we going to be without a manager but we'll be without the guy who hires a new manger as well.

Well that's f***ing brilliant.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ian W on Monday 27 April 2015, 11:27:34 PM
If Derby get promoted and McClaren comes here then he's off his rocker. He's mildly ill to do it even if they don't.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Gaz on Monday 27 April 2015, 11:28:40 PM
Just looking on twitter and looks as though I started something. Oops poor Lee!!  ;D
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Si on Monday 27 April 2015, 11:30:13 PM
From twitter. #textcharnley starting to spread

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDn_SUwWAAEGBfS.jpg)

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Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 02:03:54 AM
That article sheds quite a bit of light on the possible goings-on at SJP. And paints Charnley a far more important and dangerously influential figure than we'd first imagined him to be. As has been said above, I can totally imagine this motherfucking muppet convincing everyone, including the fat one, of not replacing Pards, selling all our f***ing defenders, and not bringing a single player in, all because "we're safe now, innit." What a f***ing bed you've made, Lee, now f***ing lie in it and quiver as the world around you crumbles and Liam Neeson comes after you.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 06:35:48 AM
He'll change his number. Any chance we can find out what the new one is and do the same thing?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 07:29:17 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11566905/Newcastle-United-manager-John-Carver-and-managing-director-Lee-Charnley-under-threat-at-St-James-Park.html

meh - he'll probably be binned (demoted not fired to avoid the payoff) and used as the scapegoat for this season, the same way Kinnear was when he was to blame for Pardew being f***ing s****
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 09:13:55 AM
I suppose he views that taken gag as a genuine threat?
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 09:17:35 AM
I don't believe charnley will be a scapegoat the sole purpose of his professional life is to carry out Ashleys orders I bet he can't even turn the kettle on without Ashleys say so
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 10:06:57 AM
That article sheds quite a bit of light on the possible goings-on at SJP. And paints Charnley a far more important and dangerously influential figure than we'd first imagined him to be. As has been said above, I can totally imagine this motherfucking muppet convincing everyone, including the fat one, of not replacing Pards, selling all our f***ing defenders, and not bringing a single player in, all because "we're safe now, innit." What a f***ing bed you've made, Lee, now f***ing lie in it and quiver as the world around you crumbles and Liam Neeson comes after you.

Yeah, that's how I read things.

Ashley just seems to not know a damn thing, and so just decides on someone to run things, and then goes off to torture Sports Direct employees.

Could definitely see Charnley trying to be one of the lads and trying to impress pardew and Carver by buying into their bollocks.

The way we got rid of those players in January made no sense. He's also probably set things up to give that oaf Craver a chance to get the job, because they're pals.

Looks really dodgy IMO.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 10:24:13 AM
John Craver :lol: I like that
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 10:27:27 AM
That article sheds quite a bit of light on the possible goings-on at SJP. And paints Charnley a far more important and dangerously influential figure than we'd first imagined him to be. As has been said above, I can totally imagine this motherfucking muppet convincing everyone, including the fat one, of not replacing Pards, selling all our f***ing defenders, and not bringing a single player in, all because "we're safe now, innit." What a f***ing bed you've made, Lee, now f***ing lie in it and quiver as the world around you crumbles and Liam Neeson comes after you.

Yeah, that's how I read things.

Ashley just seems to not know a damn thing, and so just decides on someone to run things, and then goes off to torture Sports Direct employees.

Could definitely see Charnley trying to be one of the lads and trying to impress pardew and Carver by buying into their bollocks.

The way we got rid of those players in January made no sense. He's also probably set things up to give that oaf Craver a chance to get the job, because they're pals.

Looks really dodgy IMO.

It does smell like there's some truth in this like; Charnley trying to impress by selling as many players as possible to keep the bank balance looking rosy and ensuring more PL money while doing so. Only one flaw in that plan Lee.

I suppose we all have the impression that Ashley makes every decision but I guess that's probably not very likely, he's chose a guy to run things for him.

Biggest question is why he keep insisting on appointing unqualified fuckwits to run a 300m quid asset? :lol:
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 10:29:04 AM
He's fiercely loyal to those near him, as was alluded to in the programme. We've also seen it with Pardew, Kinnear etc.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Twinport53 on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 10:54:15 AM
Charnley this morning...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDn-4djW8AEVcRO.png:large)
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 11:03:45 AM
Probably a virgin living at his mom's place.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: axel on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 12:13:24 AM
Anyone know NUFCs fax machine adress? Could spam them with alot of s***
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Skeletor on Saturday 2 May 2015, 01:09:11 PM
This f***ing c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Numbers on Saturday 2 May 2015, 01:11:07 PM
Made some of the worst decisions in the clubs history, he must be so proud. f***ing Prick.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Skeletor on Saturday 2 May 2015, 01:12:02 PM
Could have given us Remi Garde. Instead gave us Carver and relegation. Way to go you bald c***.
Title: Re: Liar Charnley
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 2