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Title: Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:06:59 PM
Previous thread: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58769.0.html

Will he be a Newcastle player again by the time this one reaches 1000 pages?
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:07:12 PM
No.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:07:30 PM
Thread over.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:08:49 PM
In before the lock. LOLZ.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:09:13 PM
Once again a master class in planning from our owner. Keep Pardew and let his number 1 transfer target go to another club without even putting a bid in.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Varadi on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:10:33 PM
Once again a master class in planning from our owner. Keep Pardew and let his number 1 transfer target go to another club without even putting a bid in.

We can but hope that the first part of that proves incorrect.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: KDT on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:11:01 PM
Problem with that is that it may well have Pardew's number 1 target but we all know he's got very little to do with player recruitment. If he doesn't like that he can walk.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Who are other comparable "jumpers" in world football that we could attract? We need more "jumpers".
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Who are other comparable "jumpers" in world football that we could attract? We need more "jumpers".

Carlton Cole says hi
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:18:21 PM
Last West Ham freebie went well. Do it.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:20:03 PM
Big Ziggs from Birmingham city is Pards wet dream tbf
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:20:51 PM
Yaya Sanogo is going to Arsenal but he's French, a free transfer and tall. Shame.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: KDT on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:21:15 PM
Carsten Jancker
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:26:27 PM
Once again a master class in planning from our owner. Keep Pardew and let his number 1 transfer target go to another club without even putting a bid in.

Better than signing him TBF.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: TK-421 on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:27:05 PM
Yaya Sanogo is going to Arsenal but he's French, a free transfer and tall. Shame.

Haha... there was a crazy italian/geordie bloke called 'Frankie' who rang TotalSport last night raving about him, and saying we should be in for him instead of Carroll, as he's going to Arsenal for nothing.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:29:59 PM
He's a monster on FM2012 :)
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: hobshobs on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:32:05 PM
No interest in Carroll all of a sudden despite Pardew waffling the opposite all season. Effectively we're attempting to save face as we can't get him. Newcastle United beaten by QPR for Remy, beaten by West Ham for Carroll. Add to that we've still got the worst manager I've ever come across following The Toon. Can it get much worse? Probably tonight, if he is to get another chance. Thoroughly depressing.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:32:37 PM
Beaten by West Ham for Carroll? Are you serious?
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:37:50 PM
No interest in Carroll all of a sudden despite Pardew waffling the opposite all season. Effectively we're attempting to save face as we can't get him. Newcastle United beaten by QPR for Remy, beaten by West Ham for Carroll. Add to that we've still got the worst manager I've ever come across following The Toon. Can it get much worse? Probably tonight, if he is to get another chance. Thoroughly depressing.

Worst manager since you started following Newcastle? Can't have been that long then?
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: hobshobs on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:44:52 PM
No interest in Carroll all of a sudden despite Pardew waffling the opposite all season. Effectively we're attempting to save face as we can't get him. Newcastle United beaten by QPR for Remy, beaten by West Ham for Carroll. Add to that we've still got the worst manager I've ever come across following The Toon. Can it get much worse? Probably tonight, if he is to get another chance. Thoroughly depressing.

Worst manager since you started following Newcastle? Can't have been that long then?

With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst. Week in week out it is plain awful to watch. Can you tell me of any game plan apart from not to concede. European quarter final second leg he actually says we'll contain for 70 and then come out for the last 20. 3-1 down before the game kicked off. Incredible.

Been following them for 45 years Mr Unbelievable.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: GuyP on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:46:21 PM
No interest in Carroll all of a sudden despite Pardew waffling the opposite all season. Effectively we're attempting to save face as we can't get him. Newcastle United beaten by QPR for Remy, beaten by West Ham for Carroll. Add to that we've still got the worst manager I've ever come across following The Toon. Can it get much worse? Probably tonight, if he is to get another chance. Thoroughly depressing.

Worst manager since you started following Newcastle? Can't have been that long then?

(http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1273306.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/5045994.jpg)
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:46:24 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:47:40 PM
I've only been following since 2004 and I've seen much worse tbh
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:50:42 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

My memory is s***, but I feel like the team that went down was more capable of putting passes together that could lead to a goal. I don't know if the stats back this, but 1-0 deficits didn't feel like instant losses.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:51:18 PM
It is probably the worst league finish compared the quality of players in the squad, in theory at least. Not that that tells the whole story.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: hobshobs on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 04:51:20 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

Do you ever read things and take it in? I said "With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst." Pointless trying to converse with some on here. Zero by name, ZERO UP TOP obviously :)
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 05:14:25 PM
If you want to compare in relation to squad strength I would say last season he was easily the best manager since SBR. This season goes down as a major disappointment of course, but overall he hasn't done worse for us than the likes of Sounness and Joe f***ing Kinnear, and that's only going back a decade, let alone 45 years...
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 05:26:45 PM
Once again a master class in planning from our owner. Keep Pardew and let his number 1 transfer target go to another club without even putting a bid in.


So you think if we keep Pardew we should also start allowing him to make the signings?  That sounds like a really bad idea.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 05:28:34 PM
Once again a master class in planning from our owner. Keep Pardew and let his number 1 transfer target go to another club without even putting a bid in.


So you think if we keep Pardew we should also start allowing him to make the signings?  That sounds like a really bad idea.

on the level of keeping Pardew.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 05:29:05 PM
Once again a master class in planning from our owner. Keep Pardew and let his number 1 transfer target go to another club without even putting a bid in.


So you think if we keep Pardew we should also start allowing him to make the signings?  That sounds like a really bad idea.

on the level of keeping Pardew.

:thup:
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Mr. Slugworth on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:00:57 PM
I'd prefer us to sign someone that's good at scoring goals like.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:03:13 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

Do you ever read things and take it in? I said "With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst." Pointless trying to converse with some on here. Zero by name, ZERO UP TOP obviously :)

Easily the worst?  With a squad that we were even forced to play the likes of Sammy and Shane last Christmas?  Simpson as center back cover? Jonas as left back? And the all mighty Ameobi as our only cover for Cisse?  With only Obertan as our real winger? With 3 french imports who are thrown to the fire without any time for settling down and adjust to the league?

Are you serious?
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:06:00 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

Do you ever read things and take it in? I said "With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst." Pointless trying to converse with some on here. Zero by name, ZERO UP TOP obviously :)

Easily the worst?  With a squad that we were even forced to play the likes of Sammy and Shane last Christmas?  Simpson as center back cover? Jonas as left back? And the all mighty Ameobi as our only cover for Cisse?  With only Obertan as our real winger? With 3 french imports who are thrown to the fire without any time for settling down and adjust to the league?

Are you serious?

Out of interest which squad in recent times is better than the one we have?
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: BillClinton on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:08:39 PM
nufc.com were saying that since we allegedly have a 25% sell-on clause, we only need to bid £11.25m to match. It's a lot more reasonable at that price, in my opinion.. Liverpool still probably wouldn't want to sell to us though.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:14:23 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

Do you ever read things and take it in? I said "With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst." Pointless trying to converse with some on here. Zero by name, ZERO UP TOP obviously :)

Easily the worst?  With a squad that we were even forced to play the likes of Sammy and Shane last Christmas?  Simpson as center back cover? Jonas as left back? And the all mighty Ameobi as our only cover for Cisse?  With only Obertan as our real winger? With 3 french imports who are thrown to the fire without any time for settling down and adjust to the league?

Are you serious?

Out of interest which squad in recent times is better than the one we have?

On paper it looks like this year is the strongest.  In fact it isn't, due to the factors I've mentioned above.  I even forget to mention we got a captain who suddenly become "homesick" and tried to engineer a move away during January, and then further missed a few months after a stylish-but-meaningless acrobatic clearance.  You know what without Mbiwa we definitely would be relegated, imagine it's Williamson at the back instead of Mbiwa. 

Last year we were fuming that we only got Raylor as our back up side back. This year in many occasion we even hoped Raylor's there instead of Jonas. Oh yea we can have a starting eleven that looks invincible (in which I agree) but what's the cover for them? s***s and/or amateurs.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:17:26 PM
When was the last time that wasn't the case though?
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: LateRegistration on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:18:48 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

Do you ever read things and take it in? I said "With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst." Pointless trying to converse with some on here. Zero by name, ZERO UP TOP obviously :)

Easily the worst?  With a squad that we were even forced to play the likes of Sammy and Shane last Christmas?  Simpson as center back cover? Jonas as left back? And the all mighty Ameobi as our only cover for Cisse?  With only Obertan as our real winger? With 3 french imports who are thrown to the fire without any time for settling down and adjust to the league?

Are you serious?

Out of interest which squad in recent times is better than the one we have?

One could even argue the relegation season squad was on paper one with which we shouldn't have been relegated. Our strikers were Owen, Viduka, Martins, Lovenkrands and still had Carroll, Shola. If you look at some of the rest of the players the Taylors, Nolan, Barton, Beye, Bassong, Collocini, Jonas, Enrique, Duff, Guthrie.

Fair enough in hindsight its easy to see that some of the players were on a downward trajectory, some were much better after settling - Nolan, Enrique, Collocini. But we don't know whether the likes of Cisse, Tiote will pick up form, we don't know whether our recent arrivals will be better once they have settled. 
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:23:30 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

Do you ever read things and take it in? I said "With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst." Pointless trying to converse with some on here. Zero by name, ZERO UP TOP obviously :)

Easily the worst?  With a squad that we were even forced to play the likes of Sammy and Shane last Christmas?  Simpson as center back cover? Jonas as left back? And the all mighty Ameobi as our only cover for Cisse?  With only Obertan as our real winger? With 3 french imports who are thrown to the fire without any time for settling down and adjust to the league?

Are you serious?

Out of interest which squad in recent times is better than the one we have?

One could even argue

Should have stopped there.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:26:03 PM
This is our squad for the relegated season:
Given, Beye, Coloccini, Bassong, Enrique, Jonas, Barton, Nolan, N'Zogbia, Owen, Martins
Covers: Harper. Raylor, Saylor, Cacapa, Guthrie, Duff, Smith, Geremi, Butt, Lovenkrands, Ameobi, Viduka, Carroll
Ignored: Milner, Xisco, Edgar

I don't think it was that s*** on paper as well.  However we all knew what happened.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:30:50 PM
I remember us doing okay before the January transfer window. Not well granted but a repeat of the same form over the second half of the season would have seen us comfortably safe in mid table (same as the two seasons before). It's when we sold Given and N'Zogbia and had to change our manager twice that it all went to s***. We had 23 points on the 14th January 2009. We finished with 34...
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:32:49 PM
When was the last time that wasn't the case though?

It sounds strange but i do think the team we were able to field out last year has better quality on average. Tiote, Cabaye and Colo were incredible last season, Ba, Cisse and HBA just cannot stop scoring goals, and Krul were having a career year as well.  Most of them were free from injuries and always available for league matches.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:49:15 PM
When was the last time that wasn't the case though?

It sounds strange but i do think the team we were able to field out last year has better quality on average. Tiote, Cabaye and Colo were incredible last season, Ba, Cisse and HBA just cannot stop scoring goals, and Krul were having a career year as well.  Most of them were free from injuries and always available for league matches.

For fairness, I'd like to point out in the season you've picked Shola got almost double the game time than he did this season, Sammy got more minutes, we had three centre-backs for the entire season (a touch more serious than Jonas having to play LB after two recognised left-backs in Santon and Haidara were unavailable I think you'll agree), we had to field Simpson-Perch as a CB pairing on one occasion (which, again trumps your 'Simpson as CB'offering) and we didn't have Debuchy, Sissoko, Haidara, MYM and Gouffran for half a season, or Anita for a full season.

Oh, and f***ing Obertan got over three times as much game time. Leon Best was good I grant you, but he wasn't that good.

This is our strongest squad in a good while. Not perfect, but not even a a fifth as bad as some will have you believe*. We're not Chelsea/Man Citeh, and we've never in my lifetime (even under SBR/Keegan) had like-for-like replacements all over the park.

It's very easy to pick the odd game and say "oh but Dabizaz had to play right-back that game" in emergency situations - emergency situations will happen every season - the trick is to not be so catastrophically s*** a manager, that your team isn't ready to adapt to new personnel, because your team will have an ethos and a strategy which isn't centred on individual performances bailing the team out. Pardew has a fantastic squad - even this season with injuries/absentees.

His complete failure to impose any kind of style on the team last season during our very fortuitous, largely injury-free season is the reason why we couldn't rotate players even if we did have cover all over the pitch. That's why he is a contender for shittest manager we've had.

* - I don't think Ashley will remove Pardew in time for this to be fully repudiated as it ought to be, sadly
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:53:21 PM
4, 3, 2, 1...
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 06:58:44 PM
When was the last time that wasn't the case though?

It sounds strange but i do think the team we were able to field out last year has better quality on average. Tiote, Cabaye and Colo were incredible last season, Ba, Cisse and HBA just cannot stop scoring goals, and Krul were having a career year as well.  Most of them were free from injuries and always available for league matches.

I'm not having that at all. Cabaye and Tiote had good games and bad games. Tiote had far more bad than good, actually. But it was ignored because we were getting goals and winning games.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:11:44 PM
What a bizarre way of looking at things.  Saying that the 2008/09 team was decent enough on paper and shouldn't have been relegated as some sort of f***ed up justification for making your case for Pardew?  Somehow this empowers Pardew because he avoided relegation by the skin of his nutsack?

Some people need to learn some simple basica programming to understand simple cause and effect algorithms.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:14:17 PM
Beren, that's not a fantastic squad. I would never call a squad "fantastic" with Shola and Obertan as "covers". My point is, last season we were f***ing lucky to have most of our core players available and so even if we have to play the likes of Sammy and Obertan our system/performance was not massively affected. You should agree with this. We were able to put out a better team last season due to luck. This season we have a better squad but we were unable to put out a better team on average (nevermind Pardew's idiotic prudence).  Our squad is f***ing thin that without Colo/Cabaye/Cisse we are done. This is not a fantastic squad, never. And the ultimate criticism lies on Ashley and Llambias, who refuse to gave Pardew long-dued resources until the last last moment.

Just to clarify, Pardew deserved the sacking because he should do a lot better even with the injuries.  I would not argue for this.  But then I definitely would not agree that "this is the lowest point ever". To say "we avoided relegation with this squad" is a lower point than "relegation a few years ago" is f***ing ridiculous.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:16:12 PM
What a bizarre way of looking at things.  Saying that the 2008/09 team was decent enough on paper and shouldn't have been relegated as some sort of f***ed up justification for making your case for Pardew?  Somehow this empowers Pardew because he avoided relegation by the skin of his nutsack?

Some people need to learn some simple basica programming to understand simple cause and effect algorithms.

Read all the posts before replying, please. Don't tell me you agree with hobshobs that relegation was not the lowest point in recent times.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:16:34 PM
I will definitely agree with you there, Zero.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:17:29 PM
and yes I did read the posts.  I just thought the reasoning in that part was a bit off.  This is in no way worse than relegation though.  Anyone who actually thinks that has recently been chasing the dragon.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:20:37 PM
When was the last time that wasn't the case though?

It sounds strange but i do think the team we were able to field out last year has better quality on average. Tiote, Cabaye and Colo were incredible last season, Ba, Cisse and HBA just cannot stop scoring goals, and Krul were having a career year as well.  Most of them were free from injuries and always available for league matches.

I'm not having that at all. Cabaye and Tiote had good games and bad games. Tiote had far more bad than good, actually. But it was ignored because we were getting goals and winning games.

We have the best defense when we got Colo, Tiote and Cabaye together. As an individual Tiote didn't play well, but our defense deteriorated a lot when we played Guthrie instead of Tiote last season. Defense was the key for our 5th position, that's why I included Tiote there.

Not this season though. A complete disaster.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:22:36 PM
and yes I did read the posts.  I just thought the reasoning in that part was a bit off.  This is in no way worse than relegation though.  Anyone who actually thinks that has recently been chasing the dragon.

No problem then O0
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: hobshobs on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:41:34 PM
I can't believe that someone think we are even worse than the relegated season.  :idiot2:

Do you ever read things and take it in? I said "With the squad he's got to hand he is easily the worst." Pointless trying to converse with some on here. Zero by name, ZERO UP TOP obviously :)

Easily the worst?  With a squad that we were even forced to play the likes of Sammy and Shane last Christmas?  Simpson as center back cover? Jonas as left back? And the all mighty Ameobi as our only cover for Cisse?  With only Obertan as our real winger? With 3 french imports who are thrown to the fire without any time for settling down and adjust to the league?

Are you serious?

Forced to play the likes of Sammy and Shane last Christmas?
What are you talking about? In the whole of December and January, Sammy started two games, Shane one. They both stared against Brighton in the FA Cup and Sammy's other start was against Bordeaux away, that was it. Effectively what Pardew would class as reserve outings. So he wasn't forced to play them at all, he chose to. Any other games they took part in around Christmas (Start of December to end of January shall we say) they came off the bench. Didn't he make Shola captain for the Brighton match? Someone for the youngsters to look to for advice, guidance and inspiration but Shola got himself sent off. Another master stroke from Pardew. Make your most gutless lazy player the captain and get him to lead the youngsters. Laughable.

Simpson as center back cover?
We have Taylor, Coloccini, MBiwa and Williamson. That's four. You do know you only have two centre back positions. So saying Simpson was centre back cover is like saying Cisse is wing cover.

Jonas as left back?
Totally Pardew's doing. Sunday against Arsenal, MBiwa was outstanding at left back, Pardew took him off and put Jonas (again having a poor game) to left back. A lot of us gave up trying to work out what goes on in Pardew's head a long time ago.

Ameobi as our only cover for Cisse?
Cover? Pardew had him REPLACING Cisse in a good few games. Shola through the middle and Cisse punted out to the wing. Aye, he's a managerial genius.

With only Obertan as our real winger?
Wouldn't say he's a real winger by any stretch of the imagination. Hard pressed to say he was a real footballer. Again it's Pardew who has seen fit to play Obertan ahead of Marveaux. No idea why. Could be because he's bigger and stronger and suits the Pardew / Allardyce / Pullis style of play.

With 3 french imports who are thrown to the fire without any time for settling down and adjust to the league?
Any shortcomings that the our French additions may have shown since they arrived would have nothing to do with the managers formations and tactics of course.

Yes, I am serious about Pardew being the worst I've seen.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:42:43 PM
Hope Carroll signs for West Ham ASAP.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: hobshobs on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:46:05 PM
What a bizarre way of looking at things.  Saying that the 2008/09 team was decent enough on paper and shouldn't have been relegated as some sort of f***ed up justification for making your case for Pardew?  Somehow this empowers Pardew because he avoided relegation by the skin of his nutsack?

Some people need to learn some simple basica programming to understand simple cause and effect algorithms.

Read all the posts before replying, please. Don't tell me you agree with hobshobs that relegation was not the lowest point in recent times.

When did I say anywhere that relegation was not the lowest point? I've never even mentioned relegation on here. You seem to make a lot of things up to suit your own agenda Mr Zero. As I said earlier ZERO up top in your case.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: hatem garrincha on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:46:34 PM
Hope Carroll signs for West Ham ASAP.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 07:46:53 PM
Hope Carroll signs for West Ham ASAP.

So do I. Next target please.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: ujpest doza on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 08:19:53 PM
Add to that we've still got the worst manager I've ever come across following The Toon.
You've followed us for 45 years and think Souness, McGarry, Roeder, Charlton and Allardyce were better than Pardew?

I think you're letting a poor season blind you to reason mind.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 08:23:28 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4931927/Alan-Pardew-interested-in-signing-striker-Andy-Carroll.html
Quote from: last week
ALAN PARDEW admits he would be interested in bringing Andy Carroll back to Tyneside.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alan-pardew-wont-bring-andy-1904587
Quote from: today
No going back: Alan Pardew not interested in Andy Carroll return to Newcastle

:lol:
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Brendan_Rice on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 08:49:25 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4931927/Alan-Pardew-interested-in-signing-striker-Andy-Carroll.html
Quote from: last week
ALAN PARDEW admits he would be interested in bringing Andy Carroll back to Tyneside.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alan-pardew-wont-bring-andy-1904587
Quote from: today
No going back: Alan Pardew not interested in Andy Carroll return to Newcastle

:lol:

:D they just make this s*** up
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: NewJerseyMag on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 08:51:37 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4931927/Alan-Pardew-interested-in-signing-striker-Andy-Carroll.html
Quote from: last week
ALAN PARDEW admits he would be interested in bringing Andy Carroll back to Tyneside.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alan-pardew-wont-bring-andy-1904587
Quote from: today
No going back: Alan Pardew not interested in Andy Carroll return to Newcastle

:lol:

Guess Dekka told him he was "avin a larf" if he thought we were going to spend 15million on a player.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: hobshobs on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 08:57:20 PM
Add to that we've still got the worst manager I've ever come across following The Toon.
You've followed us for 45 years and think Souness, McGarry, Roeder, Charlton and Allardyce were better than Pardew?

I think you're letting a poor season blind you to reason mind.

Souness, McGarry, Roeder, Charlton and Allardyce did not have squads that were 100% set up to play football on the deck like we are now. In the majority of cases they had squads that only enabled them to play in the way that Pardew is making our squad play now.
We are 'OFFICIALLY' the long ball kings in the Premier League this season. It's a crying shame that he is making us play the way we are with the squad we have and that is why for me he is the worst ever. Most of the managers you mentioned had nowhere near the level of player he has at his disposal.
One poor season with us, OK would give you that. What about the other poor seasons at other clubs. He's a dud.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 09:01:37 PM
Ah, an argument about which of our teams/managers was the shittest. What a cheery topic.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 09:57:18 PM
Another reason not to sign him is that he is very injury prone.  Out till august apparently.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:24:43 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/10074584/Liverpool-striker-Andy-Carroll-weighs-up-West-Ham-United-move-as-Newcastle-United-balk-at-15m-fee.html
Quote
Carroll was the subject of a successful bid from West Ham following the end of his season-long loan at Upton Park and as he mulls over making that deal permanent it is understood that he would welcome a return to St James’ Park.

That avenue is closed unless Newcastle match West Ham’s offer, something it is understood they are not willing to do. Contrary to suggestions on Wednesday, they do retain an interest in the 24-year-old, whom they sold to Liverpool for £35 million in Jan 2011 and made protracted attempts to re-sign on loan last summer. But they value the striker at around half the fee agreed between Liverpool and West Ham.

:lol:
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:27:07 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/10074584/Liverpool-striker-Andy-Carroll-weighs-up-West-Ham-United-move-as-Newcastle-United-balk-at-15m-fee.html
Quote
Carroll was the subject of a successful bid from West Ham following the end of his season-long loan at Upton Park and as he mulls over making that deal permanent it is understood that he would welcome a return to St James’ Park.

That avenue is closed unless Newcastle match West Ham’s offer, something it is understood they are not willing to do. Contrary to suggestions on Wednesday, they do retain an interest in the 24-year-old, whom they sold to Liverpool for £35 million in Jan 2011 and made protracted attempts to re-sign on loan last summer. But they value the striker at around half the fee agreed between Liverpool and West Ham.

:lol:

I do too tbf.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: NEEJ on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:28:02 PM
I reckon £7.5m is generous.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:28:05 PM
£7.5m?? Sounds about right, really.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:28:59 PM
£7.5m?? Sounds about right, really.

£7.5m before 'Young and English' and 'Half a season of form' tax.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:31:01 PM
Quote
An alternative to Carroll for Newcastle is St Etienne striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang but Alan Pardew wants to add players with Premier League experience to his squad and would wlcome the chance to work with Carroll again.

 :fuuu: :fuuu: :fuuu:
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:35:41 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/10074584/Liverpool-striker-Andy-Carroll-weighs-up-West-Ham-United-move-as-Newcastle-United-balk-at-15m-fee.html
Quote
Carroll was the subject of a successful bid from West Ham following the end of his season-long loan at Upton Park and as he mulls over making that deal permanent it is understood that he would welcome a return to St James’ Park.

That avenue is closed unless Newcastle match West Ham’s offer, something it is understood they are not willing to do. Contrary to suggestions on Wednesday, they do retain an interest in the 24-year-old, whom they sold to Liverpool for £35 million in Jan 2011 and made protracted attempts to re-sign on loan last summer. But they value the striker at around half the fee agreed between Liverpool and West Ham.

:lol:

I do too tbf.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:36:05 PM
Need to find a balance, between price, availability and suitability. Won't happen, though.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Wallace on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:40:22 PM
If he is going to be out for 4 months then he will miss pre-season which will mean he will struggle to catch up for the rest of next season.  I wonder if that will cause West Ham to defer the deal or re-negotiate the fee.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 22 May 2013, 11:42:13 PM
Need to find a balance, between price, availability and suitability. Won't happen, though.

Meaning we should spend £15m on an injury prone scruff or?
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 23 May 2013, 04:06:54 AM
Add to that we've still got the worst manager I've ever come across following The Toon.
You've followed us for 45 years and think Souness, McGarry, Roeder, Charlton and Allardyce were better than Pardew?

I think you're letting a poor season blind you to reason mind.

Souness, McGarry, Roeder, Charlton and Allardyce did not have squads that were 100% set up to play football on the deck like we are now. In the majority of cases they had squads that only enabled them to play in the way that Pardew is making our squad play now.
We are 'OFFICIALLY' the long ball kings in the Premier League this season. It's a crying shame that he is making us play the way we are with the squad we have and that is why for me he is the worst ever. Most of the managers you mentioned had nowhere near the level of player he has at his disposal.
One poor season with us, OK would give you that. What about the other poor seasons at other clubs. He's a dud.

Souness inherited Bobby's squad and SBR had them playing decent enough stuff.

edit:  Our long ball stats did improve in the 2nd half of the season.  We were ahead of Stoke as a percentage of passes that were long balls for the first half of the season.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 23 May 2013, 04:18:55 AM
Need to find a balance, between price, availability and suitability. Won't happen, though.

Meaning we should spend £15m on an injury prone scruff or?

He isn't injury prone. Even based on his West Ham form Carroll would absolutely stroll into our side and look bloody good in it.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 23 May 2013, 05:03:29 AM
Need to find a balance, between price, availability and suitability. Won't happen, though.

Meaning we should spend £15m on an injury prone scruff or?

He isn't injury prone. Even based on his West Ham form Carroll would absolutely stroll into our side and look bloody good in it.

I disagree.  I could imagine Pardew continuing with his 4-2-3-1 which would mean Cisse being shunted out onto the right again as happened when Shola / Ba were in that role.  Even if we played a 4-4-2 to accommodate him then it'd be punted balls at his head except this time there's no Barton to deliver them and no Nolan to feed off the scraps and support him in the box.

And anyway, Leo Messi wouldn't look good in our side the way we're playing.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Lotus on Thursday 23 May 2013, 12:52:44 PM
Carroll couldn't even outscore Cabaye last season. And that's a Cabaye with apparently a stamina problem.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan on Thursday 23 May 2013, 01:10:39 PM
Quote
An alternative to Carroll for Newcastle is St Etienne striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang but Alan Pardew wants to add players with Premier League experience to his squad and would wlcome the chance to work with Carroll again.

 :fuuu: :fuuu: :fuuu:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'd breakdown in tears if we turned down the chance of signing PEA. Not like he'd come here anyway though.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Thursday 23 May 2013, 01:41:07 PM
Carroll couldn't even outscore Cabaye last season. And that's a Cabaye with apparently a stamina problem.

His wife disagrees.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Flip on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:09:24 PM
I'd have Carroll back in a second now, he clearly wants to go back rejecting the West Ham offer. I think he'd do anything to  become a hero here. Make a £12m offer and get him back. Add Remy and a CB to that and we're done for the summer early.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:18:49 PM
Be very happy with carrol and remy.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:21:55 PM
David Gold ‏@DavidGoldWHU 4h
“@Jamie_Seagrave: People are believing a news website that AC has rejected a move to West Ham

This is news to me. dg
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:26:36 PM
This news website, I guess.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/05/28/4009047/carroll-to-reject-15m-west-ham-move-fight-for-liverpool?ICID=PP_14616

Quote
Carroll to reject £15m West Ham move and fight for Liverpool place
The Hammers have agreed a deal with the Reds for the 24-year-old striker, but he is keen to establish himself at Anfield or at least secure a shock return to Newcastle

EXCLUSIVE
By Richard Buxton

Andy Carroll looks set to turn down a permanent £15 million move to West Ham after telling Liverpool he will fight for his place at Anfield, Goal understands.

The 24-year-old striker is ready to accept a role as a bit-part player at Liverpool next season in order to force his way into the side following a successful loan spell at Upton Park.
 
West Ham agreed a £15m deal with the Reds last week after Carroll scored seven goals while on loan in east London, but he is unsure about a move as he focuses on re-establishing himself at Anfield and earning a place in England's World Cup squad.

"Things haven't worked out for Andy at Liverpool but he went there with high hopes and isn't ready to throw in the towel just yet," a source told Goal.

"He enjoyed his time with West Ham but feels he has unfinished business at Anfield."

Reds manager Brendan Rodgers had hoped to cash in on Carroll to boost his transfer spending this summer, having only been given £20m by owners FSG to improve the squad that finished seventh in the Premier League table.

Carroll is also thought to be keen on a shock return to Newcastle. The Magpies, though, are not believed to be in the running for his signature, with bad blood from the original £35m transfer in 2011 meaning Liverpool are reluctant to negotiate a return.

Carroll faces up to four months on the sidelines with a heel injury, and has withdrawn from the England squad for the upcoming friendlies against the Republic of Ireland and Brazil.
Title: Re: West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Post by: Jack Flash on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:27:52 PM
£££
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:29:33 PM
Dunno if it's even worth updating a thread title for something from goal.com, but their article is the current story on this, with it being referenced by David Gold.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:31:31 PM
How much longer is his Liverpool contract?  I'd laugh my tits off if he ended up going on a free.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: NewJerseyMag on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:35:13 PM
How much longer is his Liverpool contract?  I'd laugh my tits off if he ended up going on a free.

Thats what I think he will do. Like a lanky Xisco.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Teasy on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:53:48 PM
Need to find a balance, between price, availability and suitability. Won't happen, though.

Meaning we should spend £15m on an injury prone scruff or?

He isn't injury prone. Even based on his West Ham form Carroll would absolutely stroll into our side and look bloody good in it.

He managed 24 games last season, he might not end up being injury prone but that certainly has to be a concern.  Also I'm sure he'd look good in Pardews side, hoof the ball up to Carroll, we could win games without the need to play any Football at all.

Carroll can be an effective player and with the right manager in charge, who isn't just going to use him up front on his own waiting for long balls every single game, I'd gladly have him here.  But not for £15m and not under Pardew.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ritchie on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:56:23 PM
How much longer is his Liverpool contract?  I'd laugh my tits off if he ended up going on a free.

He's got another three years left.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:57:05 PM
I reckon he's holding out for us.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 02:58:17 PM
He's out for four months? He's becoming pretty injury prone.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: mattypnufc on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:00:05 PM
goal.com.....
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: LRD on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:10:31 PM
He's out for four months? He's becoming pretty injury prone.

Could become another Duncan Ferguson. Same type of player and all that.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:13:08 PM
Oh joy! He must want to come home! He does love us, he does!!

:hmm:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: AlanSkärare on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:14:13 PM
goal.com.....
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Jack Flash on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:15:37 PM
http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58769.msg3917666.html#msg3917666

Now you see :mancini:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:16:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfSoaJxe3Y
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: icemanblue on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:19:45 PM
Should've went for Pato Banton, Ron.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:21:07 PM
Nah dude, the lyrics in the Player song are far more appropriate.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Atticus on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:22:11 PM
Goal.com? What is the meaning of this?
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ishmael on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:22:24 PM
goal.com.....

Indeed :lol:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: icemanblue on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:24:42 PM
Nah dude, the lyrics in the Player song are far more appropriate.

He's still got my Bob Marley CD collection, though. :(
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:32:50 PM
Lol.com  :hmm:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:33:02 PM
Need to find a balance, between price, availability and suitability. Won't happen, though.

Meaning we should spend £15m on an injury prone scruff or?

He isn't injury prone. Even based on his West Ham form Carroll would absolutely stroll into our side and look bloody good in it.

He managed 24 games last season, he might not end up being injury prone but that certainly has to be a concern.  Also I'm sure he'd look good in Pardews side, hoof the ball up to Carroll, we could win games without the need to play any Football at all.

Carroll can be an effective player and with the right manager in charge, who isn't just going to use him up front on his own waiting for long balls every single game, I'd gladly have him here.  But not for £15m and not under Pardew.

The only managers who want Carroll are the Pardews, Pulis' and Allardyces. Long ball merchants one and all. All this talk from fans that Carroll is a much better footballer than he's given credit for is all well and good but whichever team he plays for will end up hoofing it, that's why no CL club will come in for him.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:35:41 PM
Coming from someone who repeatedly insisted that SAF badly wanted Tiote I find that pretty funny.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:50:22 PM
Coming from someone who repeatedly insisted that SAF badly wanted Tiote I find that pretty funny.

Pretty sure Fergie himself said they'd asked about Tiote but weren't interested at £15m.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Fair enough if someone credible like tribalfootball reported it, but Goal? Nah.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:00:16 PM
Well it's easy enough to suggest something is up. The offer has been on the table for quite some time and the player near a year to think about it and it still hasn't gone through, I'd suggest there's a decent chance he's going to reject it. He wants to come back here, if he can't then he will stay on their books until he can, even if it does mean him leaving on a free and coming back in 2016.

Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:04:46 PM
If his plan is to sit on the Liverpool bench until 2016 on the off chance we'll take him on a free he's more thick than he looks.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:06:29 PM
I've absolutely no doubt in my mind that he's holding out for a return here, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he took a pay cut to push it through. I don't have any issues with his desire, but I don't want to go back to long ball football and you have to wonder how his fitness will hold up if he come back here, the booze capital of England.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: palnese on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:10:10 PM
Yeah, he's coming home.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:11:39 PM
How come his turrible character barely gets a mention in here? Do people not care if he's a c***? Do they disagree that he's a c***? Or do you just think that him being a c*** will be overridden by his "love for the toon"?

Personally, I'd prefer we continued going for players who don't end up in court every couple of years on assault charges.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:13:15 PM
Coming from someone who repeatedly insisted that SAF badly wanted Tiote I find that pretty funny.

Pretty sure Fergie himself said they'd asked about Tiote but weren't interested at £15m.

He didn't.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:14:25 PM
I thought we had said we weren't interested? I know Pardew rates him but he obviously has no power to make it happen.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Wallace on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:20:23 PM
Apparently Liverpool want a quick sale as they need the money to get other players in.  I hope the story is true if only to wind the Scousers up.

Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:21:22 PM
Did we ever get confirmation of a 25% sell on clause?
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Wallace on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:22:27 PM
Did we ever get confirmation of a 25% sell on clause?

Think it is is only if they sell him for a profit which is never going to happen.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Lotus on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:24:13 PM
If we are interested i wonder who else we're looking at to play alongside him. To give him the balls to attack in the air. None of our current lot have looked able.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: bimpy474 on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:25:29 PM
Seems legit.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:30:13 PM
Coming from someone who repeatedly insisted that SAF badly wanted Tiote I find that pretty funny.

Pretty sure Fergie himself said they'd asked about Tiote but weren't interested at £15m.

He didn't.

Great. Shall we get back to talking about Carroll then? I don't want him here.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Toon Hoser on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:33:18 PM
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2976/tearsofjoy.png)
Come home Andeeeee!   
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:48:41 PM
How come his turrible character barely gets a mention in here? Do people not care if he's a c***? Do they disagree that he's a c***? Or do you just think that him being a c*** will be overridden by his "love for the toon"?

Personally, I'd prefer we continued going for players who don't end up in court every couple of years on assault charges.

Because our club is already filled with terrible characters from the chairman through to the physio room. What harm is one more c*** going to do?
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 04:50:31 PM
We do talk about his suspect fitness/drinking etc TBF, kind of character-related.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 05:24:04 PM
Nah dude, the lyrics in the Player song are far more appropriate.

He's still got my Bob Marley CD collection, though. :(

:lol:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 05:24:42 PM
When was the last time he acted like a prick? Genuine question, not been paying much attention.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 05:44:41 PM
When was the last time he acted like a prick? Genuine question, not been paying much attention.

Last time that springs to mind is when he was papped on a night out having wet himself this year.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Jack Flash on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 05:48:19 PM
When was the last time he acted like a prick? Genuine question, not been paying much attention.


imo
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 05:51:35 PM
When was the last time he acted like a prick? Genuine question, not been paying much attention.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-ham-striker-andy-carroll-1471721
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:06:03 PM
Goal.com is the biggest footy site on the web btw... its no tribal football these days.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:07:23 PM
When was the last time he acted like a prick? Genuine question, not been paying much attention.


imo

:lol:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:07:44 PM
What about CaughtOffside?
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Zero on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:38:42 PM
If he wants to come back here, can I take that as a proof that Ashley and Llambias didn't force him out and he was the one who make the transfer request?
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:39:18 PM
If he wants to come back here, can I take that as a proof that Ashley and Llambias didn't force him out and he was the one who make the transfer request?

Steve Wraith has dem texts.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:48:39 PM
If he wants to come back here, can I take that as a proof that Ashley and Llambias didn't force him out and he was the one who make the transfer request?

Could just as easily argue the opposite tbh
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:51:24 PM
If he wants to come back here, can I take that as a proof that Ashley and Llambias didn't force him out and he was the one who make the transfer request?

Could just as easily argue the opposite tbh

It's much more logical to assume the club and Carroll wanted the same thing, more money.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:52:08 PM
I don't think the two situations are related tbh. He wanted the money and we wanted the money, doesn't mean much now we're 2.5 years down the line.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: STM on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 06:57:24 PM
Even if they did force him out,  it was still the correct decision.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:01:43 PM
Latest injury setback is bad news for him transfer wise, couldn't come at a worse time for him. Only way we would go for him in that state is if we get a cracking deal, and what with him supposedly knocking wham back, Liverpool needing money and the injury itself we could be seeing us getting in there around the £10m mark with possible addons.

After seeing our striking options this season, I'd welcome him back with open arms, Cisse was awful last season and really he's all we've got as a goal threat, no wonder we nearly went down.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Zero on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:11:06 PM
I don't think the two situations are related tbh. He wanted the money and we wanted the money, doesn't mean much now we're 2.5 years down the line.

Say if you are Carroll and you really didn't want to leave at that time, and then you're forced out and being portrayed as a c***, would you want to back to play under Ashley.co?
A definite no for me, as I still have some dignity.

p.s. I just want to prove who's the liar.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:15:11 PM
I don't think the two situations are related tbh. He wanted the money and we wanted the money, doesn't mean much now we're 2.5 years down the line.

Say if you are Carroll and you really didn't want to leave at that time, and then you're forced out and being portrayed as a c***, would you want to back to play under Ashley.co?
A definite no for me, as I still have some dignity.

p.s. I just want to prove who's the liar.

I'm 100% sure he won't give a f***.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:17:15 PM
I don't think the two situations are related tbh. He wanted the money and we wanted the money, doesn't mean much now we're 2.5 years down the line.

Say if you are Carroll and you really didn't want to leave at that time, and then you're forced out and being portrayed as a c***, would you want to back to play under Ashley.co?
A definite no for me, as I still have some dignity.

p.s. I just want to prove who's the liar.

Everybody lies.

*limps off*
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:19:48 PM
I don't think the two situations are related tbh. He wanted the money and we wanted the money, doesn't mean much now we're 2.5 years down the line.

Say if you are Carroll and you really didn't want to leave at that time, and then you're forced out and being portrayed as a c***, would you want to back to play under Ashley.co?
A definite no for me, as I still have some dignity.

p.s. I just want to prove who's the liar.

I'm 100% sure he won't give a f***.

:thup:

I mean, just look at everyone that Vince McMahon has worked with. He gets in fights with everyone, but they all end up back in the WWE, when the money is right. Montreal screwjob included.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:29:10 PM
I don't think he was forced out at all. He got an offer too good to turn down, the club got an offer too good to turn down...one of those things.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: bimpy474 on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:30:40 PM
There's a ring of Deja Vu in the air like.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:32:43 PM
I honestly believe there's way too much emphasis placed on Carroll's supposed affinity for Newcastle.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:34:40 PM
I honestly believe there's way too much emphasis placed on Carroll's supposed affinity for Newcastle.

I agree. That huge affinity he had that saw him give up the number 9 shirt at the first hint of a better wage
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:34:53 PM
The simple thing is to appoint his dad as youth team coach, say we want him but won't pay for him and just unsettle him in general. Think that's how these things work.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: LucaAltieri on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:36:53 PM
Can see the Mackems signing him tbh.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Parky on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:38:45 PM
Still remember when Dekka laughing said he wasn't worth £35. :lol:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:39:31 PM
Can see the Mackems signing him tbh.

Couldn't see anything less likely.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:41:26 PM
Can see the Mackems signing him tbh.

Then there will be some excuses and ridiculous reasons why Andy Carroll hearts NUFC 4 EVA IDST  :smitten:


 :whistle:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:43:42 PM
Can see the Mackems signing him tbh.

Couldn't see anything less likely.

Steven Taylor going to Marseille.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 07:44:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ImCpNqbJw
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 28 May 2013, 08:13:49 PM
Can see the Mackems signing him tbh.

Couldn't see anything less likely.

Steven Taylor going to Marseille.

Remember when some paper linked him in a swap deal with Puyol? :lol:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: GuyP on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 09:30:53 AM
Thing about whether Carroll wanted to go or not, I see it like this;

He would have stayed but was encouraged to go, so he left. "Forced" is the wrong word as he could have stayed if he wanted to, but its not like he forced the deal through. As always the truth is somewhere in the middle of what both sides say...
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: womblemaster on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 12:31:54 PM
worth 12m + addons.(they can be found down bigg market on a friday)

Worlds best header of the ball.

Would prefer him to cisse, who has been found out now.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 12:34:48 PM
Would prefer him to cisse, who has been found out now.

Oh my.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Swissmag on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 12:36:33 PM
worth 12m + addons.(they can be found down bigg market on a friday)

Worlds best header of the ball.

Would prefer him to cisse, who has been found out now.

Fuckin Hell!
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 12:56:44 PM
womble pls
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: nufc4eva on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 12:57:03 PM
worth 12m + addons.(they can be found down bigg market on a friday)

Worlds best header of the ball.

Would prefer him to cisse, who has been found out now.

Cisse hasn't been found out, Pardew has. The lad needs support. He still has it if given the chances
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 05:24:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ImCpNqbJw

:smitten: Melo.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ted Maul on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 08:25:23 PM
As some others have said, Pardew is here to stay unfortunately and if he's going to insist on playing s*** long ball football it might as well be effective so I would welcome him back here IF he stays somewhat clear of injury, which he probably won't.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: STM on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 08:28:47 PM
It would be nice to be a threat from set pieces.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 09:35:14 PM

Worlds best header of the ball.


Yep, totally :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 09:36:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ImCpNqbJw

:smitten: Melo.

It seems more apt for Big Andy tbf Mike.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 29 May 2013, 09:48:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ImCpNqbJw

:smitten: Melo.
When did he go back to Baltimore?

I'd be excited and pleased with getting Carroll back at a cut price, but fifteen million is a ridiculous amount of money for a player that has been just average for two seasons. At the moment, it just doesn't represent value for money. I mean if you just compare him to someone like Aubameyang, who has been in the form of his life over the last two seasons, he'll cost more despite seeming to be a more risky investment. I wouldn't mind NUFC bringing in some good talent with experience in this league, but that shouldn't mean paying exorbitant fees and wages for uncertain and somehwat injury-prone prospects. Everton and West Brom have managed to bring in good British talent on a budget.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dr Venkman on Thursday 30 May 2013, 12:20:57 AM
worth 12m + addons.(they can be found down bigg market on a friday)

Worlds best header of the ball.

Would prefer him to cisse, who has been found out now.

Found out as what? A striker with a really good record?

2003–2004   Douanes Dakar   26   (23)
2005–2009   Metz   95   (36)
2005–2006   → Cherbourg (loan)   28   (11)
2008–2009   → Châteauroux (loan)   15   (4)
2009–2012   SC Freiburg    65   (37)
2012–   Newcastle United   50   (21)

National team‡
2009–   Senegal   22   (11)
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 30 May 2013, 04:31:04 AM
It's hard to find Cisse out, like, he doesn't even know what he's doing himself half the time.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 30 May 2013, 04:43:12 AM
Cisse will be fine given people actually supplying him with decent service. He is having to track back to get the ball and works his socks off then there is nobody up there to pass the ball too.

Most frustrating thing is having nobody coming through the centre like Nolan used to do, haven't replaced him still, although we have better players, we haven't replaced him with someone that is a direct physical attacking threat through the middle.

I would be chuffed with Carroll, Remy and another winger like Ince or Sinclair.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Tiresias on Thursday 30 May 2013, 06:06:29 AM
about remy, Rather not sign a striker with a pending rape trial or has that been dropped?
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 30 May 2013, 06:42:25 AM
Meh, Rape, battery, we have seen it all before.. Think its suspended til September, probably wants a holiday, then sort his next multi-million pound contract/move first. That way he doesn't have to worry if he is locked behind bars in September.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:01:28 AM
Not sure how you find out someone like Cisse. "Okay lads,if he gets 20 yards out and is near the byline don't let him shoot ffs!".
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Ste on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:04:14 AM
It's one thing defenders finding an attacker out, it's another actually stopping them. Give Cisse service and he will score, he's shown that.

Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Lotus on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:26:55 AM
Not sure how you find out someone like Cisse. "Okay lads,if he gets 20 yards out and is near the byline don't let him shoot ffs!".

:lol:
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: bendewar on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:28:15 AM
i would take Carroll over Cisse if Pardew insists on playing the way he does. Cisse spends the entire game off side and doesn't take the easy chances.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: sugoinufc on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:32:24 AM
he wants to come home - i wouldn´t mind him coming back.

I believe he is a good player - he can become good again like before he left us.

Great player to have as a sub or as a starter.

Caroll, cisse, campell, Goffran and Remy would be really good!


Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: sugoinufc on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:33:47 AM
i would take Carroll over Cisse if Pardew insists on playing the way he does. Cisse spends the entire game off side and doesn't take the easy chances.

we need both to challenge each other for the starting place on top.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: nufc4eva on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:38:19 AM
i would take Carroll over Cisse if Pardew insists on playing the way he does. Cisse spends the entire game off side and doesn't take the easy chances.


Never, Cisse is 10 times the striker Carroll is, half the time he is offside because nobody plays the ball early. he goes early, always has. I would probably get carroll to play with but not instead of
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Wilson on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:41:59 AM
sick of reading this stuff on here lately

carroll over cisse, selling ben arfa would be 'brilliant business' ... read something about Pulis this morning....so depressing! :(
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:46:20 AM
sick of reading this stuff on here lately

carroll over cisse, selling ben arfa would be 'brilliant business' ... read something about Pulis this morning....so depressing! :(

Crying about it will help.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: stozo on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:47:48 AM
Don't think it's a case of Carroll over Cisse at all. Man U played the season with 4 good strikers, Man City played with 3 so the idea that it's Cisse OR Carroll is bonkers.

If we can get him for £10m I'd be very much in favour of us signing Carroll. He offers something that we don't have at the moment and if he can rekindle the form he showed when he was here before then it would be a fantastic deal.
Title: Re: Goal.com - Andy Carroll to reject £15m move to West Ham?
Post by: Wilson on Thursday 30 May 2013, 09:54:05 AM
Don't think it's a case of Carroll over Cisse at all. Man U played the season with 4 good strikers, Man City played with 3 so the idea that it's Cisse OR Carroll is bonkers.

If we can get him for £10m I'd be very much in favour of us signing Carroll. He offers something that we don't have at the moment and if he can rekindle the form he showed when he was here before then it would be a fantastic deal.

:thup:

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:45:40 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22959336

Didn't realise things were so far along.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:46:17 PM
The fee was agreed ages ago.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: #9 on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:47:39 PM
Sullivans son tweeted

Subject to medical Andy Carroll is now a WHU player, 6 year contract. £15.5m plus £2m of extras.
Fingers crossed he medicals fine
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:53:18 PM
Liverpool have done well to get that much.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: midstoon on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:54:09 PM
Sullivans son tweeted

Subject to medical Andy Carroll is now a WHU player, 6 year contract. £15.5m plus £2m of extras.
Fingers crossed he medicals fine
Thank f*ck for that.

The same west ham medical that kieron dyer passed :))
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:55:06 PM
Sullivans son tweeted

Subject to medical Andy Carroll is now a WHU player, 6 year contract. £15.5m plus £2m of extras.
Fingers crossed he medicals fine
6 years at 100k a week apparently, lunatics
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:55:21 PM
Sad that Liverpool got so much for him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: midstoon on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 04:56:15 PM
Sullivans son tweeted

Subject to medical Andy Carroll is now a WHU player, 6 year contract. £15.5m plus £2m of extras.
Fingers crossed he medicals fine
6 years at 100k a week apparently, lunatics
Should easily get 15 games a season out of him tho :D
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 05:18:17 PM
Sad that Liverpool got so much for him.

At least it's Fat Sam that's wasted so much of West Ham's budget.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Teasy on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 07:01:39 PM
Very relieved.

Anyway so that's a total outlay of nearly £49m for Andy Carroll ???
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 07:08:54 PM
Didn't old shitty heart say this is the sort of striker he wanted?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 07:14:54 PM
Word is they are getting Demba Ba also... Not sure if on loan or not...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: midstoon on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 07:26:58 PM
Word is they are getting Demba Ba also... Not sure if on loan or not...

Did'nt he get racially abused by a west ham fan at an awards dinner or something?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 07:36:37 PM
£50.5m in combined fees for Andy Carroll man. He's good but f***ing hell that's just stupid. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 09:09:39 PM
Including wages that man will cost clubs £100m before his career ends.  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 09:22:40 PM
Including wages that man will cost clubs £100m before his career ends.  :lol:

Would have supposedly bought NUFC back in 2009.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 09:45:36 PM
Do we getting any of the fee? Can we make up some percentages?

I hear we stung Liverpool for a 95% sell-on fee :shifty:

Apparently, we get 25% of the fee, so £3.875m ? Taking our total income off Carroll to a staggering £38.875m, f***ing hell.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 09:59:19 PM
Do we getting any of the fee? Can we make up some percentages?

I hear we stung Liverpool for a 95% sell-on fee :shifty:

Apparently, we get 25% of the fee, so £3.875m ? Taking our total income off Carroll to a staggering £38.875m, f***ing hell.

Where are you getting that from? Did Joe Kinnear tell you?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 10:41:06 PM
Passed medical, to sign tomorrow.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Wilson on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 10:43:15 PM
Didn't take him long to make his mind up once Joe Kinicky was announced
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 10:45:05 PM
He held out for a move to here as long as he could. Guess when he said to wham give me £100kpw he thought he'd never hear back from them again.  :lol:

Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 10:45:39 PM
Do we getting any of the fee? Can we make up some percentages?

I hear we stung Liverpool for a 95% sell-on fee :shifty:

Apparently, we get 25% of the fee, so £3.875m ? Taking our total income off Carroll to a staggering £38.875m, f***ing hell.

Where are you getting that from? Did Joe Kinnear tell you?

It is what is reported. Joe Kinnear told me he was gettign 10% of any sale as he got £35m for him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 10:49:06 PM
Didn't take him long to make his mind up once Joe Kinicky was announced

Yep
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 11:05:14 PM
Word is they are getting Demba Ba also... Not sure if on loan or not...

Did'nt he get racially abused by a west ham fan at an awards dinner or something?

He got abused by a couple of fans at an awards dinner but i don't remember it being racially...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 11:09:47 PM
Word is they are getting Demba Ba also... Not sure if on loan or not...

Did'nt he get racially abused by a west ham fan at an awards dinner or something?

He got abused by a couple of fans at an awards dinner but i don't remember it being racially...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1387923/Demba-Ba-claims-racially-abused.html
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 11:18:23 PM
Ah well. That's (presumably) our number 1 target well and truly gone. Next.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Tiresias on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 11:22:37 PM
Ah well. That's (presumably) our number 1 target well and truly gone. Next.

There is no 'next'

:yao:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Wilson on Tuesday 18 June 2013, 11:41:00 PM
That would be fun, Nolan Ba and carroll all starting against us.

I'd say about 20 mins before our first ass-raping.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 01:05:15 AM
Where do people get the idea Carroll was our number one target?  Pardews number one target maybe.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Ryan on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 02:11:51 PM
Andy Carroll has today completed his transfer to West Ham. Everyone at #LFC wishes him all the best for the future: http://t.co/cY516m5mtK
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 02:17:14 PM
Feels like a right kick in the teeth now, this.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 02:19:34 PM
That would be fun, Nolan Ba and carroll all starting against us.

I'd say about 20 mins before our first ass-raping.

He will be injured still.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Willow on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 02:22:55 PM
Glad he didn't join us, just not fit enough over the season.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll set to join West Ham
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 02:25:56 PM
Glad he didn't join us, just not fit enough over the season.

If we signed him you would have bet he wouldnt be fit again in September like expected. Probably closer to December knowing us :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 03:00:24 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 03:06:43 PM
Willow's avatar :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 03:13:18 PM
Willow's avatar :lol:

Is that Womblemaster?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Wilson on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 03:16:33 PM
Why is this bothering me... :undecided:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 03:55:09 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 04:44:24 PM
At least there's some good news today anyway :celb:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 04:45:51 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him

Kill me now..
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: SiLvOR on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 04:46:25 PM
(http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/technology/matrix-bullet-dodge.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 04:48:12 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him

Kill me now..

 :lol: at the first comment

"Newcastle are the un-named club"
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: womblemaster on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 04:51:36 PM
sad about this tbh.  So far we havent identified any strikers better than AC.(
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 04:57:18 PM
sad about this tbh.  So far we havent identified any strikers better than AC.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: plenum on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 04:57:29 PM
Carroll can stay the f*** away. Will never forgive him for diving and claiming for a penalty at SJP when playing for l'pool.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 05:00:45 PM
Don't see why people are celebrating that we didnt get him, not when our only real striker won't wear the clubs top and wants either more money or to leave. One things for certain, if he was fit he'd get us plenty of goals and could be the difference of us staying up or going down.

Lets see if we can attract a striker as good as him (then celebrate) or end up now with Carlton Cole.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Jack Flash on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Don't see why people are celebrating that we didnt get him, not when our only real striker won't wear the clubs top and wants either more money or to leave. One things for certain, if he was fit he'd get us plenty of goals and could be the difference of us staying up or going down.

Lets see if we can attract a striker as good as him (then celebrate) or end up now with Carlton Cole.



Carroll was quick enough to leave after wanting more money off us so he's far worse than Cisse in that regard.

Delighted he's not coming back. There's some incredible numbers floating around for someone so average and injury prone.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 05:08:40 PM
Don't see why people are celebrating that we didnt get him, not when our only real striker won't wear the clubs top and wants either more money or to leave. One things for certain, if he was fit he'd get us plenty of goals and could be the difference of us staying up or going down.

Lets see if we can attract a striker as good as him (then celebrate) or end up now with Carlton Cole.



Carroll was quick enough to leave after wanting more money off us so he's far worse than Cisse in that regard.

Delighted he's not coming back. There's some incredible numbers floating around for someone so average and injury prone.

Lets see a bid come in for Cisse first before stating such things like. It wasn't a comparison, it was me looking at our striking options and the only one decent enough could leave at any time. If that were to happen I'd be a lot happier knowing Carroll was here.

Yeah, the money is incredible, £50m in fees, wages will probably be near enough that again by the time he retires.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 07:58:51 PM
We probably forced poor wickle Andy Carroll to join West Ham :(
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:00:31 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him

Kill me now..

 :lol: at the first comment

"Newcastle are the un-named club"

It's absolutely us. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: nemtizz on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:08:56 PM
Not even funny. :(

Surely we wouldn't throw our transfer 'policy' out of the window for Kinnear?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: henke on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:12:54 PM
Nailed on.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:18:14 PM
Carroll will have one or two stellar seasons at West Ham but will in the main cut an inconsistent figure blighted by injuries you feel. He's an ideal Big Sam player and in many ways more than good enough for West Ham but any club aspiring to be a top side would never use him in the first team on a regular basis. I'm pleased he's not coming back because he's simply not worth the money and is a very limited average forward.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:20:05 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him

Why are we resigning Carl Cort?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: nufc4eva on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:22:16 PM
If he signs Cole he has listened to Pards, at last we have a joined up approach in our club, no way it could fail :)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:24:36 PM
Not even funny. :(

Surely we wouldn't throw our transfer 'policy' out of the window for Kinnear?
Ashley is some sort of Kinnear fanboy so quite possibly yes
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 08:39:59 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him

Kill me now..

 :lol: at the first comment

"Newcastle are the un-named club"

It's absolutely us. :lol:

Not enough groan gifs in the world. How f***ing predictably depressing.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 09:03:13 PM
I was in favour of signing Carroll, but if the figures mentioned are correct (15.5M + 2M add ons and 100k wages) I wouldn't have gone far beyond half that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 10:33:08 PM
Any confirmation we get a % of the fee?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Chrisjraby on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 11:57:05 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him

Kill me now..

 :lol: at the first comment

"Newcastle are the un-named club"

It's absolutely us. :lol:

Not enough groan gifs in the world. How f***ing predictably depressing.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4976341/Carlton-Cole-in-talks-with-Hull-after-West-Ham-release-him.html

 :smugdog:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll completes move to West Ham
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 19 June 2013, 11:59:20 PM
Steve Brewwwwce is a good lad :snod:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Magpie on Monday 15 July 2013, 09:54:22 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/580274_10151457466201886_119222853_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: brummie on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:01:07 PM
Bugger.. :(

Amamobi it is!
oh I wouldn't be so sure........
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8783529/Transfer-news-Carlton-Cole-considering-offer-from-top-flight-club
probably JFK on the phone to him

Kill me now..

 :lol: at the first comment

"Newcastle are the un-named club"

It's absolutely us. :lol:

Not enough groan gifs in the world. How f***ing predictably depressing.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4976341/Carlton-Cole-in-talks-with-Hull-after-West-Ham-release-him.html

 :smugdog:

Can't Control was one of the worst strikers I've ever seen play for us.

And I remember Simon Stainrod, Gary Penrice and Guy "Twelve Million Goals in the Second Division" Whittingham.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:01:58 PM
Stainrod...why does that name ring a bell.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:03:42 PM
I remember reading the Villa forums when he was there on loan, he was a proper lazy t*** wasn't he?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:05:24 PM
Stainrod...why does that name ring a bell.

Ben Arfa's agent/adviser IIRC.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Stainrod...why does that name ring a bell.

Porno?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:38:59 PM
:(
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:43:48 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2l9mp4.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 15 July 2013, 10:45:11 PM
Sheeeeeeeiit
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 06:32:58 AM
Stainrod...why does that name ring a bell.

Ben Arfa's agent/adviser IIRC.

That's it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dinho lad on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 07:14:27 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/580274_10151457466201886_119222853_n.jpg)

Yeah, I think I would bang, tbh. But I'd rather wait for Cajun's opinion before deciding.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 08:27:27 AM
I'll allow it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Sima on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 10:02:06 AM
PEWA COWIE FACE
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 10:05:01 AM
I like the t-shirt but still wouldn't bang. You're a braver man than me Cajun.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 11:43:15 AM
I saw this photo last night on my phone and I thought it was my ex. Looking at it in a larger format I can see it's not but she's very similar to her.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 11:44:33 AM
Yeah it's a good tee. He looks absolutely wrecked.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: buzza on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 12:38:49 PM
PEWA COWIE FACE
AYE, MINGIN... (both - in different ways!)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Elliottman on Tuesday 16 July 2013, 01:20:20 PM
I like the t-shirt but still wouldn't bang. You're a braver man than me Cajun.

There's no way you wouldnt bang that Ian. No way.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tsunami on Sunday 21 July 2013, 09:39:11 AM
Been told he's still 6 weeks away from being fit and will miss the start of the season. Also WH are waiting for a work permit for some South American, did get told the country - but I've forgot which one! (could even have been Mexican - full of useful info).
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Oakie Doke on Sunday 21 July 2013, 09:41:49 AM
Right, go away and don't come back till you've got some more detailed information please.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:13:21 PM
Rumors flying around that he's out for another few months.

EDIT:

NUFC Stats ‏@NUFC_Stats 29s
Rumours that Andy Carroll out for 4 months aster sustaining injury during training today! #ouch #nufc

if true then West Ham are in very serious trouble he's their only striker (which shows why buying downing was braindead)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:18:58 PM
Andy Carroll is set for an extended spell on the sidelines after it was confirmed that he has suffered a setback in his recovery from a heel injury.

Carroll, who cost the Club a cool £15million in the summer has not played a game for West Ham since the end of last season.

Earlier today, unconfirmed reports appeared on the KUMB forum suggesting that the 24-year-old was set for another lengthy spell of absence after suffering a re-occurrence of the heel injury that has kept him out of West Ham's three opening Premier League fixtures.

And it has also suggested that the injury could keep Carroll out for around three months - meaning that West Ham fans are unlikely to see much of their new signing before Christmas.

West Ham are yet to comment on the news although the Club's unofficial spokesman, Jack Sullivan revealed this evening [Monday] that Carroll had indeed suffered a new injury.

from KUMB

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:19:37 PM
Devastated.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Bit gutted for him really.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:23:03 PM
I don't mind the kid tbh. He should be starting in the WC if we get there.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:26:24 PM
I bet he'll be out celebrating with few drinks.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mike on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:29:07 PM
Bit gutted for him really.

:nods: Shame.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:52:17 PM
Bit gutted for him really.
feel sorry for him, not so much West Ham who are in a bad situation since they put all their eggs striker wise in the Carroll basket
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Monday 9 September 2013, 08:56:13 PM
Really couldn't care less about him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 9 September 2013, 09:03:24 PM
He's been a crock for ages now. Not much of surprise.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Sifu on Monday 9 September 2013, 09:11:20 PM
I actually do have a hint of sympathy for Carroll there like, got to the point in June where I would not have minded his return. His lifestyle though has to be a contributing factor so in a way he's brought this onto himself...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 9 September 2013, 09:11:48 PM
New Duncan Ferguson.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Monday 9 September 2013, 09:13:37 PM
I actually do have a hint of sympathy for Carroll like. His lifestyle though has to be a contributing factor so in a way he's brought this onto himself...[/brutality]

If you think of some of the things he's been in bother for and the money he's on your sympathy will rapidly evaporate.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Teasy on Monday 9 September 2013, 09:23:56 PM
£50m spent on him in fees alone over the last 2 and a half years or so :o  In that time he's scored 18 goals.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:09:51 PM
 :yao:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Trumpet on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:33:02 PM
I give him a lot of s***, but Ian Ayre really pulled a worldie here in selling him for 16M.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:37:26 PM
confirmed by West Ham
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:38:19 PM
:troll:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Chris_R on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:38:49 PM
Can you imagine how angry we'd all be right now if we'd turned down the £35m and he'd gone on to have the 2 1/2 years that he has done? :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:41:44 PM
Can you imagine how angry we'd all be right now if we'd turned down the £35m and he'd gone on to have the 2 1/2 years that he has done? :lol:

I reckon we'd have been relegated again.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:41:48 PM
(http://i.qkme.me/3r9m1w.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:46:51 PM
He seems horrendously injury prone.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sempuki on Monday 9 September 2013, 10:50:50 PM
Poor bugger - the new Big Dunc as someone said already.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 9 September 2013, 11:00:43 PM
I actually do have a hint of sympathy for Carroll like. His lifestyle though has to be a contributing factor so in a way he's brought this onto himself...[/brutality]

If you think of some of the things he's been in bother for and the money he's on your sympathy will rapidly evaporate.

Like when you express sympathy for Pardew for getting paid almost a million quid a year to play 3 defensive midfielders at home (and still lose 6-0)?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 9 September 2013, 11:10:24 PM
I suspect his lifestyle doesn't help him, shame as on his day he's very very good IMO
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Scotty66 on Monday 9 September 2013, 11:27:38 PM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 9 September 2013, 11:30:17 PM
Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck, Sturridge etc.

What?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LFEE on Monday 9 September 2013, 11:37:51 PM
Heard someone talking about his heal injury when he first picked it up... Apparently it can be a nightmare to recover from and in some ways it never goes away apparently so could keep recurring...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Monday 9 September 2013, 11:51:19 PM
I was told that one of the reasons that Ashley and co sold Carroll in the first place was that they had huge concerns over his fitness.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 9 September 2013, 11:55:38 PM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.

The same Sturridge who has 16 goals and 6 assists in 21 games for Liverpool?

Carroll can only dream of numbers like that :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Chris_R on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 12:12:43 AM
He seems horrendously injury prone.

Tends to happen when you spend 90% of your nights p*ssed.

The only person his injury proneness is a mystery to is Andy Carroll.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 12:13:51 AM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.

The same Sturridge who has 16 goals and 6 assists in 21 games for Liverpool?

Carroll can only dream of numbers like that :lol:

He probably couldn't find those numbers on a calculator, the daft c***  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Si on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 12:29:47 AM
I love how when players don't start games they become brilliant.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Scotty66 on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 12:37:54 AM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.

The same Sturridge who has 16 goals and 6 assists in 21 games for Liverpool?

Carroll can only dream of numbers like that :lol:

I know.That's why it's more of a dream than a belief.

Don't get me wrong,Sturridge is a quality player. He has yet to prove it at International level though.

I'd just prefer an old fashioned England CF that was what I was trying to say. Carroll is,along with Lambert. The rest aren't in that respect.

I always had a wish Newcastle had signed Dean Ashton in his prime too. It would of worked out for both of us imo.....
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: nufcjb on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:55:17 AM
this time, Ashley really does win again..imagine if we paid that amount for his return and he's crocked without kicking a ball..

now let's watch Real cringe everytime a tackle flies in on Bale..
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:57:44 AM
New Duncan Ferguson.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 02:07:41 AM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.

The same Sturridge who has 16 goals and 6 assists in 21 games for Liverpool?

Carroll can only dream of numbers like that :lol:

I know.That's why it's more of a dream than a belief.

Don't get me wrong,Sturridge is a quality player. He has yet to prove it at International level though.

I'd just prefer an old fashioned England CF that was what I was trying to say. Carroll is,along with Lambert. The rest aren't in that respect.

I always had a wish Newcastle had signed Dean Ashton in his prime too. It would of worked out for both of us imo.....

OK that's fair enough. :thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 02:19:19 AM
To be honest, told ya he will be injury prone.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 02:41:12 AM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.

The same Sturridge who has 16 goals and 6 assists in 21 games for Liverpool?

Carroll can only dream of numbers like that :lol:

I know.That's why it's more of a dream than a belief.

Don't get me wrong,Sturridge is a quality player. He has yet to prove it at International level though.

I'd just prefer an old fashioned England CF that was what I was trying to say. Carroll is,along with Lambert. The rest aren't in that respect.

I always had a wish Newcastle had signed Dean Ashton in his prime too. It would of worked out for both of us imo.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDMx3kYe7ZY
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 03:06:56 AM
So, what's holding Sturridge back, again? His numbers are insane, people need to stop living in the past and mould their attacks around quick players like him, not the "old English centre forward" archetype which hasn't been filled since Big Al retired at the top. Even he had to change his game quite a bit to stay relevant at the top.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 05:49:12 AM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.
Stuart Pearce is that you?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 06:48:19 AM
Regardless of his history here,I'd f***ing love him to be tearing it up as England's No9.

Seeing how Lambert has slotted straight in there's still hope yet.

Fed up of these bullshit pissweak forwards like Wellbeck,Defoe,Sturridge etc.

Get some solid strength up top and let us be a mental and physical worry to International CB's yet again.

The same Sturridge who has 16 goals and 6 assists in 21 games for Liverpool?

Carroll can only dream of numbers like that :lol:

I know.That's why it's more of a dream than a belief.

Don't get me wrong,Sturridge is a quality player. He has yet to prove it at International level though.

I'd just prefer an old fashioned England CF that was what I was trying to say. Carroll is,along with Lambert. The rest aren't in that respect.

I always had a wish Newcastle had signed Dean Ashton in his prime too. It would of worked out for both of us imo.....

This is the reason why old school fans are still hankering after Kevin Nolan while Liverpool, Man U, Spurs etc wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Just watch the sides that do well, and stop and think why don't they look for 6ft+ giants in all areas of the pitch? Think. Think hard.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Varadi on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 07:32:41 AM
Can't believe that in January it'll be 3 years since we sold him - time has flown by. 50 million on transfer fees and 18 goals in all that time, what a waste man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 08:44:29 AM
Can't believe that in January it'll be 3 years since we sold him - time has flown by. 50 million on transfer fees and 18 goals in all that time, what a waste man.

+ probably getting on for £15m in wages [/Ashley]
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 09:07:24 AM
I give him a lot of s***, but Ian Ayre really pulled a worldie here in selling him for 16M.

He cost -£19m...or -£4m because you got +£50m for Torres or some s*** like that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: AlanSkärare on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 09:11:19 AM
Wonder what things would've been like for him and for us had he not left.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: womblemaster on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 09:22:15 AM
Wonder what things would've been like for him and for us had he not left.

depends how many folk he had glassed in the big market over the same period.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Lotus on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 09:22:30 AM
Never ceases to amaze me how Scousers try and distort fairly simple reasoning and rationale to present the whole Carroll affair as a great deal for them.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 09:28:39 AM

I give him a lot of s***, but Ian Ayre really pulled a worldie here in selling him for 16M.

 Yeah a 50% loss. Deal of the century
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:01:44 AM
Scotty where you born in 1966?

The England strikers I grew up with are Lineker, Shearer, Sheringham, Owen & Rooney.

I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:18:25 AM
Never ceases to amaze me how Scousers try and distort fairly simple reasoning and rationale to present the whole Carroll affair as a great deal for them.

They're actually worse than the mackems in the regard.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Oakie Doke on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:38:50 AM
I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...
is that a subtle dig at me?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:00:24 PM
I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...
is that a subtle dig at me?

If the shoe fits.. but i'm not sure what you're talking about....
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:01:31 PM
I actually do have a hint of sympathy for Carroll like. His lifestyle though has to be a contributing factor so in a way he's brought this onto himself...[/brutality]

If you think of some of the things he's been in bother for and the money he's on your sympathy will rapidly evaporate.

Like when you express sympathy for Pardew for getting paid almost a million quid a year to play 3 defensive midfielders at home (and still lose 6-0)?

Can you point to me where this happened?

Cheers. Now wind your neck in.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Oakie Doke on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:15:33 PM
I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...
is that a subtle dig at me?

If the shoe fits.. but i'm not sure what you're talking about....
Should I be offended?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:15:58 PM
Scotty where you born in 1966?

The England strikers I grew up with are Lineker, Shearer, Sheringham, Owen & Rooney.

I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...

Mark Hateley is the obvious comparison . Maybe Bob Latchford.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:30:49 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 01:49:46 PM
:lol:

I'm with CD on this one:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 02:39:13 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:

Why? Because I think Cisse is crap at football?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 03:36:37 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:

Why? Because I think Cisse is crap at football?

*Sigh*
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 03:49:31 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:

Why? Because I think Cisse is crap at football?

You also were in favour of Carroll coming back and a big sceptic about Anita I believe, based on his size. You seem to have changed your tune somewhat lately though.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 04:14:28 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:

Why? Because I think Cisse is crap at football?

You also were in favour of Carroll coming back and a big sceptic about Anita I believe, based on his size. You seem to have changed your tune somewhat lately though.

I want us to compete. Physically and technically. Sissoko's a big strong lad and i'm not sold on him either.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Scotty66 on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 04:19:26 PM
Scotty where you born in 1966?

The England strikers I grew up with are Lineker, Shearer, Sheringham, Owen & Rooney.

I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...

I'd just like to see us with a different form of striker for a while.Doesn't mean we have to play 4-4-2 or long ball.

We've never had a Carroll type CF. Shearer is similar is some respects (ability in the air,strength),Heskey was....well Heskey. Crouch just fouls everyone,can't think of any others although i'm probably missing someone obvious.

Maybe I've caught the Lambert train too early but him and Carroll up front would be better (imo) than Sturridge and Welbeck.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 04:20:31 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:

Why? Because I think Cisse is crap at football?

You also were in favour of Carroll coming back and a big sceptic about Anita I believe, based on his size. You seem to have changed your tune somewhat lately though.

I want us to compete. Physically and technically. Sissoko's a big strong lad and i'm not sold on him either.

Precisely. You put competing physically above competing technically. That sentence there just epitomises it. You do need players to compete, but the better ones use their movement and passing to avoid geting into physical wars and run rings round the old fashioned Stoke type teams these days.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 04:47:05 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

Who is pining?  Though he would comfortably get in the current team.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 07:56:34 PM
College Dropout's just a s*** Ronaldo like, it has to be said.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 08:01:52 PM
:D TRon has him on toast here like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 08:14:17 PM
And what does that tell you? :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 08:18:09 PM
College Dropout's just a s*** Ronaldo like, it has to be said.

What the f*** is this supposed to mean? :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Oakie Doke on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 08:18:56 PM
I'm taking that as a dig at me.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 08:19:06 PM
College Dropout's just a s*** Ronaldo like, it has to be said.

What the f*** is this supposed to mean? :lol:

f***ing drop him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 08:23:41 PM
College Dropout's just a s*** Ronaldo like, it has to be said.

What the f*** is this supposed to mean? :lol:

:lol: That you're not s***?  Well done, man. :thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 09:25:02 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:

Why? Because I think Cisse is crap at football?

You also were in favour of Carroll coming back and a big sceptic about Anita I believe, based on his size. You seem to have changed your tune somewhat lately though.

I want us to compete. Physically and technically. Sissoko's a big strong lad and i'm not sold on him either.

Precisely. You put competing physically above competing technically. That sentence there just epitomises it. You do need players to compete, but the better ones use their movement and passing to avoid geting into physical wars and run rings round the old fashioned Stoke type teams these days.

I'm talking strength & athleticism. The best Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, Dortmund sides in recent times could be flat-track bully's at times. Even us under SBR - often simply too fast for the opposition.

The only great team in recent memory to give up a sizable amount of physicality to opposition in recent years is Barcelona. And especially in recent years, they've been bullied and beaten by teams that can make that count.

We have a good technical side but they are not good enough to give up a sizable physicality to the opposition. Case in point - Debuchy. I don't see much of the superior technical skill we heard about. Aye, he passes it along the deck better than Simpson but so far that's it. I think he's just adjusting to the league and will come good eventually. But he looks half a second too slow for the division. He's not managed to use this supposed superior technical ability because at the moment, he can't compete physically. Once he can compete physically, then we'll see his technical abilities much more.

Generally, the best players in the world now are fantastic athletes anyway.


With regards to Carroll. He can hold up the ball, bring others into play and help move the team forward. With Cisse the ball bounces off him time and time again and we lose possession. Bloody RVP can hold off a defender ffs.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:15:55 PM
Scotty where you born in 1966?

The England strikers I grew up with are Lineker, Shearer, Sheringham, Owen & Rooney.

I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...

I'd just like to see us with a different form of striker for a while.Doesn't mean we have to play 4-4-2 or long ball.

We've never had a Carroll type CF. Shearer is similar is some respects (ability in the air,strength),Heskey was....well Heskey. Crouch just fouls everyone,can't think of any others although i'm probably missing someone obvious.

Maybe I've caught the Lambert train too early but him and Carroll up front would be better (imo) than Sturridge and Welbeck.



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Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:23:25 PM
Man, Scotty's taking the English team back to the stone ages. Two big lads up front, Pardew-tastic.

Sturridge for #9, tbh. He's the most in-form striker anyway. Him and Rooney could form a pretty potent partnership. I don't even rate Welbeck to be honest.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:23:46 PM
Why would anyone pine for the glory days of Mark Hateley?

You should be able to explain better than anyone :lol:

Why? Because I think Cisse is crap at football?

You also were in favour of Carroll coming back and a big sceptic about Anita I believe, based on his size. You seem to have changed your tune somewhat lately though.

I want us to compete. Physically and technically. Sissoko's a big strong lad and i'm not sold on him either.

Precisely. You put competing physically above competing technically. That sentence there just epitomises it. You do need players to compete, but the better ones use their movement and passing to avoid geting into physical wars and run rings round the old fashioned Stoke type teams these days.

I'm talking strength & athleticism. The best Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, Dortmund sides in recent times could be flat-track bully's at times. Even us under SBR - often simply too fast for the opposition.

The only great team in recent memory to give up a sizable amount of physicality to opposition in recent years is Barcelona. And especially in recent years, they've been bullied and beaten by teams that can make that count.

We have a good technical side but they are not good enough to give up a sizable physicality to the opposition. Case in point - Debuchy. I don't see much of the superior technical skill we heard about. Aye, he passes it along the deck better than Simpson but so far that's it. I think he's just adjusting to the league and will come good eventually. But he looks half a second too slow for the division. He's not managed to use this supposed superior technical ability because at the moment, he can't compete physically. Once he can compete physically, then we'll see his technical abilities much more.

Generally, the best players in the world now are fantastic athletes anyway.


With regards to Carroll. He can hold up the ball, bring others into play and help move the team forward. With Cisse the ball bounces off him time and time again and we lose possession. Bloody RVP can hold off a defender ffs.

A s*** physical player who is tough and hard is still s*** though. Otherwise Mick MCarthy's Sunderland would have won the league instead of getting relegated. You are too quick to write off players like Anita and Sissoko on account you see them as too small/ not hard enough tacklers so you must have been shocked to see them dominate the midfield battle against the bruisers of West Ham.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Scotty66 on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:43:27 PM
Man, Scotty's taking the English team back to the stone ages. Two big lads up front, Pardew-tastic.

Sturridge for #9, tbh. He's the most in-form striker anyway. Him and Rooney could form a pretty potent partnership. I don't even rate Welbeck to be honest.

Big lads up top,Rooney sitting behind,wingers who mix it up between cutting inside and crossing for the big lads. If that fails bring the quick lads on for a burst towards the end of the game.

Reckon I could win a World Cup ya know  :mou:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 10 September 2013, 10:45:27 PM
I think the problem is that the whole two big lads up front tactic will be far too stifling, too stagnant, and England don't have wingers (Milner, Downing?) who can cross like Beckham once did. If anything, have Carroll or Lambert win headers for Sturridge to chase, but that leaves the question of Rooney.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Wednesday 11 September 2013, 11:35:13 AM
Lambert and Carroll up front would be better (imo) than Sturridge and Welbeck.

 :bigi:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 11 September 2013, 11:47:01 AM
Scotty where you born in 1966?

The England strikers I grew up with are Lineker, Shearer, Sheringham, Owen & Rooney.

I don't see the parallels with Carroll and Lambert if there's none with Sturridge and co. apart from one thing...

I'd just like to see us with a different form of striker for a while.Doesn't mean we have to play 4-4-2 or long ball.

We've never had a Carroll type CF. Shearer is similar is some respects (ability in the air,strength),Heskey was....well Heskey. Crouch just fouls everyone,can't think of any others although i'm probably missing someone obvious.

Maybe I've caught the Lambert train too early but him and Carroll up front would be better (imo) than Sturridge and Welbeck.



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Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Wilson on Wednesday 11 September 2013, 12:01:15 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Wednesday 11 September 2013, 01:23:16 PM
College Dropout's just a s*** Ronaldo like, it has to be said.

What the f*** is this supposed to mean? :lol:

Just seen this :laugh:

Spot-on description. He's trying and failing at filling the gaping forum heel void.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Wednesday 11 September 2013, 05:45:01 PM
Most people here are deluded when it comes to NUFC. All I've said is tat the players that finished 16th have played like shut and people are up in arms. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 11 September 2013, 07:57:31 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 12 September 2013, 04:08:02 AM
Most people here are deluded when it comes to NUFC. All I've said is tat the players that finished 16th have played like shut and people are up in arms. Unbelievable.

Rookie mistake, Ronaldo never tries to justify himself.  WNB.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 15 September 2013, 08:50:41 PM
plantar fascia injury, mine always f***ing hurts for no reason, feels like the skin on the bottom of my feet are tearing when walking.

Didnt think it was an injury mind, just one of them pains people get now and then.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 16 September 2013, 03:43:52 AM
plantar fascia injury, mine always f***ing hurts for no reason, feels like the skin on the bottom of my feet are tearing when walking.

Didnt think it was an injury mind, just one of them pains people get now and then.

f***s sake i've got that and all, it's been unbearable until fairly recently
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tsunami on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:04:31 PM
Spoke with the bloke from WH and he says the sole of Carroll's foot splits just about everytime he plays and that he's a million miles from recovery. He added that there is a real possibility that he may not recover, that FS is coming under real pressure from the owners and the fans.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:14:43 PM
Sounds nasty that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:16:06 PM
the sole splits just about everytime he plays

:scared:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Disco on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:17:49 PM
The skin? Sounds grim as owt that like.

College Dropout's just a s*** Ronaldo like, it has to be said.

Given that he loves custom titles...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:20:05 PM
Ouch. Sounds really nasty that, no wonder he's been out for ages if that's the case. I really feel for the s***, money-grabbing, deserting c***. :(
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:21:45 PM
My heart bleeds for the greedy c***.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ikon on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:22:11 PM
Plantar Fascia? If it's the same i think it is, then it takes f***ing ages to get rid of. I've had it in both feet and at times i could barely walk.
Had it for a year. At the end my body gave up trying to heal it, so i had  to get some electro chock treatment, and it helped a lot.

Not sure if it's called electro chock treatment though :lol: Damn it did hurt, felt like someone was drilling inside your heel.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:22:15 PM
the sole of his foot splits?  Sounds minging.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ikon on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:26:48 PM
i meant shockwave therapy :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tsunami on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:47:09 PM
the sole of his foot splits?  Sounds minging.

Sounds bloody painful. Looking to bring a forward in for January, is trying to get FS to go for Samaras but he may be be gone by then say WH have Sunderland, Fulham and Palace coming up (i think) but they then have Lpool, Man U and Chelsea (again from memory). FS has the next 3 games to save himself.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 29 November 2013, 04:58:41 PM
The skin? Sounds grim as owt that like.

College Dropout's just a s*** Ronaldo like, it has to be said.

Given that he loves custom titles...

Anyone else struggling to find the relevance of this? :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Friday 29 November 2013, 05:37:01 PM
Back in training next week.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Friday 29 November 2013, 05:56:30 PM
He obviously didn't want to leave Newcastle. You could visibly see his sole evaporate with each game.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Friday 29 November 2013, 10:30:14 PM
f*** him, hope his feet drop off
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Saturday 30 November 2013, 12:34:56 AM
Has only himself to blame for selling his sole to the devil.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Saturday 30 November 2013, 12:53:12 AM
Has only himself to blame for selling his sole to the devil.

Nice work  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 30 November 2013, 01:21:10 AM
the sole of his foot splits?  Sounds minging.

I don´t understand what it means. The sole is the bottom of his feet? How can it split, and to what extent?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Chris_R on Saturday 30 November 2013, 01:38:29 AM
Say what you like about Carroll, but he should never have been soled.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Saturday 30 November 2013, 01:42:46 AM
I was going to make a serious response to that and then noticed the "soled" part :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dogmatix on Saturday 30 November 2013, 03:15:31 AM
the sole of his foot splits?  Sounds minging.

I don´t understand what it means. The sole is the bottom of his feet? How can it split, and to what extent?

 Google is your friend.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 30 November 2013, 06:02:30 AM
Plantar Fascia? If it's the same i think it is, then it takes f***ing ages to get rid of. I've had it in both feet and at times i could barely walk.
Had it for a year. At the end my body gave up trying to heal it, so i had  to get some electro chock treatment, and it helped a lot.

Not sure if it's called electro chock treatment though :lol: Damn it did hurt, felt like someone was drilling inside your heel.

it's awful like, mine got so bad that it was resonating up into the knees and i couldn't kip from the pain at night...it's a bizarre thing, hard to fix, i wore crazy comfortable running shoes for months and it did nowt, eventually fixed itself when i started working in the office again and wore flatter soled shoes combined with using the cross trainer, turns out it basically wasn't getting stretched enough and needed exercise

tolerable now but likely never go away
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: pont-toon on Saturday 30 November 2013, 07:08:58 AM
Apparantly its the right foot which effectively means his R Sole gets ripped everytime he plays !
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Saturday 30 November 2013, 07:44:04 AM
Actually fairly amused by these awful gags. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Saturday 30 November 2013, 08:22:22 AM
Must be sole destroying for the lad
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KDT on Saturday 30 November 2013, 08:25:51 AM
Ironically after all the trouble he's had Andy is still a big fan of The Temptations that a modern day footballer has.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 30 November 2013, 08:44:50 AM
Ironically after all the trouble he's had Andy is still a big fan of The Temptations that a modern day footballer has.

Fantastic :)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dr. TC on Saturday 30 November 2013, 11:45:16 AM
This is a tragedy.

Geddit?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Saturday 14 December 2013, 07:47:34 AM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25374672


Dodged a bullet
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Saturday 14 December 2013, 07:58:07 AM
Carroll with ballet moves. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 14 December 2013, 07:58:36 AM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25374672


Dodged a bullet

The Newcastle manager.  :lol: Erm he has a name, dare you not speak it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yaron on Saturday 14 December 2013, 08:09:44 AM
So now he has to play with these shoes?

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Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 14 December 2013, 08:27:12 AM
"I think the Newcastle manager would have been sacked by most fans after a month of the season but now he is flavour of the month."

Mmm, Pards taste gurd.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 14 December 2013, 08:46:19 AM
Fair play for the honesty I suppose but I would be well p*ssed off if we came out with stuff like that about a player we are going to heavily rely on, if he ever gets fit...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 14 December 2013, 08:55:51 AM
"Even now we haven't got a date that he could be back. He could be back in three weeks, he could be back in six or eight weeks."

Sounds ominous for the lad....
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LFEE on Saturday 14 December 2013, 09:33:42 AM
Sound ominous for us also... We play them in a months time... :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 14 December 2013, 09:44:17 AM
Still wish we signed him back like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:00:03 AM
Still wish we signed him back like.

Not sure if serious.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:13:51 AM
Still wish we signed him back like.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:20:33 AM
Well buy him back for £7m next summer when they go down.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:22:58 AM
I hope not.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:25:36 AM
He's a quality centre forward, regardless of his recent injury record and we'll be playing Shola Ameobi up front for the remainder of the season.

Proper f***ing hilarious like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Chase on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:29:04 AM
I can't help but see it as West Ham being morons "I'd not have bought an injury prone player if I knew he would be injured"
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:29:12 AM
I hope not.

If fit he'd be excellent in this team, I can see why you wouldn't want that.

If we could get rid of Cisse and bring him in for next to no cost we'd be cooking with gas.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Skirge on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:30:03 AM
We won't go back in for him, as much as Pards likes him it won't happen.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:31:00 AM
He'd be class for us imo. A broken toe is a bit different to a recurring muscle injury too, it's just bad luck.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Skirge on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:33:07 AM
He'd be class for us imo. A broken toe is a bit different to a recurring muscle injury too, it's just bad luck.
Just another in a long line of injuries though, the only attraction would be if he was cheap, the money we got for him them buying him back cheap would excite Ashley. Still can't see us going in for him though.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:35:22 AM
People still talking about bringing him back :lol:

He's a crock, move on.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: STM on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:41:52 AM
Unless he plays for 3 seasons 30+ games we should steer well clear.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Which he never will - he's injury prone and a crock basically.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:44:52 AM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Elliottman on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:47:11 AM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.

He is like. This will carry on throughout his career. If we had of spent £15 million on him we'd be f***ing fuming.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:48:05 AM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.

He is like. This will carry on throughout his career. If we had of spent £15 million on him we'd be f***ing fuming.
Cheers for clearing that up like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Elliottman on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:49:11 AM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.

He is like. This will carry on throughout his career. If we had of spent £15 million on him we'd be f***ing fuming.
Cheers for clearing that up like.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:53:09 AM
The way he plays is going to mean he keeps getting injuries if he's as susceptible to them as he has shown so far. He was injured when we sold him and he's lurched in and out of fitness ever since. Even when he's played the soundbites from his manager's have been 'getting back to full fitness', 'not quite at it yet'.

Not worth the gamble. His lifestyle is not good for a top athlete either. Alright when you're a young lad scoring every week, not when you're a multi-million pound asset somebody has invested in and you're not playing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: elbee909 on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:57:05 AM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.

He is like. This will carry on throughout his career. If we had of spent £15 million on him we'd be f***ing fuming.
Cheers for clearing that up like.

You're welcome.

LIKE.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Theregulars on Saturday 14 December 2013, 10:58:48 AM
I hate Ashley but getting £35m for this goon was an incredible effort. Made all the sweeter by it being dalglish and Liverpool who paid it
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 14 December 2013, 11:39:51 AM
If they get relegated I would take him back on loan with West Ham paying half his wages.   :)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mick on Saturday 14 December 2013, 11:54:34 AM
I hate Ashley but getting £35m for this goon was an incredible effort. Made all the sweeter by it being dalglish and Liverpool who paid it

I agree with every word but didn't at the time.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 14 December 2013, 12:14:43 PM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.

He played nearly 50 games in his 2nd season for Liverpool? Where are these stats out of interest?

His departure hurt more than anyone else because he was one of 'us'. My only hope is he and Rodgers end up on some sort of Liverpool reunion night and Carroll wakes up with a ring more scary than the Japanese version of the film.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Saturday 14 December 2013, 09:05:12 PM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.

He played nearly 50 games in his 2nd season for Liverpool? Where are these stats out of interest?

His departure hurt more than anyone else because he was one of 'us'. My only hope is he and Rodgers end up on some sort of Liverpool reunion night and Carroll wakes up with a ring more scary than the Japanese version of the film.

52 appearances in 2011/12: http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=45285&season_id=141
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 14 December 2013, 09:12:28 PM
The fact he has cost £50m in transfer fees and scored barely 1 in 3 games during his league career shows everything that's wrong with the English transfer market.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 14 December 2013, 09:24:19 PM
Played near 50 in his 2nd season for Liverpool. He's had a couple of long term injuries, he's not necessarily a crock like.

He might be like.

He played nearly 50 games in his 2nd season for Liverpool? Where are these stats out of interest?

His departure hurt more than anyone else because he was one of 'us'. My only hope is he and Rodgers end up on some sort of Liverpool reunion night and Carroll wakes up with a ring more scary than the Japanese version of the film.

52 appearances in 2011/12: http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=45285&season_id=141

Mental that!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 14 December 2013, 11:46:29 PM
He will come back soon.

He will play well in the first half of the match, and get injured again in the second half.

West Ham will go down.

Allardyce will be sacked.

We'll sign Carroll in the summer for £5 million.

He will return to the form he was on before he left, and never get injured again.

Allardyce will turn into a raving lunatic mumbling random crap about Carroll for eternity.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: NUFC on Saturday 14 December 2013, 11:51:23 PM
Looks like a tramp going off MOTD, die his hair grey and he could get a job as Santa over christmas
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:56:17 AM
If he isnt that injury prone he probably really worth 30m given his unplayable aerial ability and being an young english striker.

I was correct though, predicting that he would be very injury prone, because it is very very rare for any tall striker having a career free from injuries.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 15 December 2013, 03:02:15 AM
The situation does seem very Duncan Ferguson and I also had a similar feeling about Carroll when he started picking up knocks here and there but I'm not sure you can say it's something that applies to all/most tall strikers.  The likes of Zlatan and Crouch don't appear to have had many injury problems.  The fact (or rumours at least) that the way Carroll looks after himself off the pitch leaves a lot to be desired probably has more to do with it, same as a lot of the crocks Newcastle have had the misfortune to employ down the years, Dyer being one that springs to mind.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2013, 09:05:37 AM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Elliottman on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:09:41 AM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear it from page 14/15?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Wilson on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:13:54 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:19:04 AM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear it from page 14/15?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: themanupstairs on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:28:17 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:30:45 AM
Lets say the f***ed foot theory is true ..... It would be fair to say that it was pre-existing when he signed for West Ham so would the insurance pay out? I certainly couldn't see a full payout coming their way.

Shame
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:34:12 AM
Lets say the f***ed foot theory is true ..... It would be fair to say that it was pre-existing when he signed for West Ham so would the insurance pay out? I certainly couldn't see a full payout coming their way.

Shame

He'll be insured for this injury, it wasn't the injury he had when they bought him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:27:05 PM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:27:59 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bimpy474 on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:29:08 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:31:05 PM

I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.

Blackkid.gif
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:33:09 PM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.

:giggs:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Elliottman on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:51:23 PM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.

 :bigi:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 15 December 2013, 02:55:27 PM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.

:kurt:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Sunday 15 December 2013, 03:57:19 PM
Nah, his foot will heal and he will play again. He's back in full training. Just a bit sensationalist to say career over.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: n4e on Sunday 15 December 2013, 04:00:28 PM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.

(http://theonceandfuturecoffeeaddict.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/286380-that-really-rustled-my-jimmies.jpeg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2013, 04:20:36 PM
WTF..............Space gorilla ?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: S.S.R. on Sunday 15 December 2013, 06:02:09 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyDhRyK7hkOr2N4iVygOIfZ9D39MkhQO5pkckirTqTjvJfmbXpqw)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: JS on Sunday 15 December 2013, 08:11:26 PM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.

(http://www.cringechannel.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bouncyblackguy/2013/08/rustle.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 15 December 2013, 08:40:20 PM
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:23:34 PM
f***ing hell  :lol: this page
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:27:48 PM
I heard his Career is over, he has a condition where the sole of his foot keeps tearing and its a condition that will never heal West Ham are looking to cash in on his insurance.

Did you hear  from page 14/15?

Some people really get on my nerves with smart arsed remarks, I really should learn to read every single page of every topic before I post anything on here or else the nerd trolls will have some comment to make, prick.

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZ21sBftGx5kBfG99R8l-6E8fuEMkjzkFIXzewWMwZUwqxxojkjQ)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:41:33 PM
I don't have a clue what all this means
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:43:57 PM
I don't have a clue what all this means

(http://theonceandfuturecoffeeaddict.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/299140-that-really-rustled-my-jimmies.jpeg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:45:08 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Na its over my head I guess you must need a black tee shirt with captain picard on the front and matching sweat pants to understand this sort of p*ss take
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: midds on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:53:15 PM
Rattled.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: NEEJ on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:54:28 PM
Watch your letterbox, midds.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zippity on Sunday 15 December 2013, 10:54:54 PM
Gorillas? Jimmies? What the actual fok? Us new lads have nee chance!  :idiot2:  :D

As for the OP, Carroll can f.uck right off.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:00:11 PM
Google is your friend :thup:

This one is my favourite  :lol:

(http://leviathyn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/jimmies_rustled.jpg)


Dat frown :yao:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:02:17 PM
Gorillas? Jimmies? What the actual fok? Us new lads have nee chance!  :idiot2:  :D

As for the OP, Carroll can f.uck right off.

(http://i.imgur.com/dxvbrHN.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: fraser on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:05:13 PM
Rattled.

Great comment from Admin.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zippity on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:07:51 PM
Right. Had a look on Google and now I'm even more confused.  :banana:

So, naturally, a dancing banana seemed appropriate.  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:08:05 PM
Rattled.

Great comment from Admin.

Not really, should have went with "Rustled"
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:08:53 PM
Rattled.

Great comment from Admin.

Arse licker
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: midds on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:09:56 PM
Rattled.

Great comment from Admin.

Cheers mate. :thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:11:06 PM
Right. Had a look on Google and now I'm even more confused.  :banana:

So, naturally, a dancing banana seemed appropriate.  :lol:

"That Really Rustled My Jimmies” is an expression that is used to convey feelings of discontent or discomfort in response to someone else’s post in imageboards and discussion forums, most notably on 4chan. To rustle one's jimmies means to make someone discontent or to bother someone."

The jimmies were rustled earlier (not yours btw :thup: )
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:11:33 PM
Rattled.

Great comment from Admin.

Cheers mate. :thup:

Clean arse
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: fraser on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:12:41 PM
Rattled.

Great comment from Admin.

Cheers mate. :thup:

Cost me nothing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bimpy474 on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:16:09 PM
Gorillas? Jimmies? What the actual fok? Us new lads have nee chance!  :idiot2:  :D

As for the OP, Carroll can f.uck right off.

(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/Rustled%20My%20Jimmies/grand/there-is-no-need-to-be-upset-Rustled-My-Jimmies-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1278.gif)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zippity on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:24:01 PM
Right. Had a look on Google and now I'm even more confused.  :banana:

So, naturally, a dancing banana seemed appropriate.  :lol:

"That Really Rustled My Jimmies” is an expression that is used to convey feelings of discontent or discomfort in response to someone else’s post in imageboards and discussion forums, most notably on 4chan. To rustle one's jimmies means to make someone discontent or to bother someone."

The jimmies were rustled earlier (not yours btw :thup: )

*need 'awakening' smiley. Cheers, man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:25:30 PM
Right. Had a look on Google and now I'm even more confused.  :banana:

So, naturally, a dancing banana seemed appropriate.  :lol:

"That Really Rustled My Jimmies” is an expression that is used to convey feelings of discontent or discomfort in response to someone else’s post in imageboards and discussion forums, most notably on 4chan. To rustle one's jimmies means to make someone discontent or to bother someone."

The jimmies were rustled earlier (not yours btw :thup: )

*need 'awakening' smiley. Cheers, man.

Welcome aboard :thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zippity on Sunday 15 December 2013, 11:29:20 PM
Right. Had a look on Google and now I'm even more confused.  :banana:

So, naturally, a dancing banana seemed appropriate.  :lol:

"That Really Rustled My Jimmies” is an expression that is used to convey feelings of discontent or discomfort in response to someone else’s post in imageboards and discussion forums, most notably on 4chan. To rustle one's jimmies means to make someone discontent or to bother someone."

The jimmies were rustled earlier (not yours btw :thup: )

*need 'awakening' smiley. Cheers, man.

Welcome aboard :thup:

Why, thank you.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Canuck on Monday 16 December 2013, 09:57:53 PM
If he has Plantar Fasciitis, it is chronic and has ended the careers of a few athletes.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: afar on Monday 16 December 2013, 10:20:28 PM
I googled: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/that-really-rustled-my-jimmies
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TBG on Tuesday 17 December 2013, 09:45:13 AM
Can't believe I missed a rustle off.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Tuesday 17 December 2013, 09:56:54 AM
Gorillas? Jimmies? What the actual fok? Us new lads have nee chance!  :idiot2:  :D

As for the OP, Carroll can f.uck right off.

(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/Rustled%20My%20Jimmies/grand/there-is-no-need-to-be-upset-Rustled-My-Jimmies-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1278.gif)


:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Saturday 28 December 2013, 11:54:50 AM
Expected to return for West Ham against us on January 18th.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 28 December 2013, 11:56:16 AM

Expected to return for West Ham against us on January 18th.

:anguish:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Saturday 28 December 2013, 11:59:15 AM
Can't wait, especially that he's coming back from months of layoff. Doubt he will have a strong performance against us.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 28 December 2013, 12:19:25 PM
He'll have a few more setbacks before he makes it back I reckon, but if he does play against us Iron Mike will take care of business.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: JCONA on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 01:09:59 PM
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72121000/jpg/_72121709_carroll_getty.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 01:20:37 PM
They keep saying he is in training but for someone they seem to be pitching their survival on there seems to be no pictures of him in training.  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 02:14:16 PM
Is it usual for training pics to be published when a player comes back? They're probably trying to keep him out of the spotlight until he's back, I'd guess.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Roger Kint on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 02:19:47 PM
Is it usual for training pics to be published when a player comes back? They're probably trying to keep him out of the spotlight until he's back, I'd guess.

They even write an article when he scores in training down there :lol:

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2014/01/photos-andy-carroll-scores-in-west-ham-training/
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Andybiotics on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 02:25:16 PM
Whatever happens with his injury, I don't think he'll keep them up.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 02:31:58 PM
Is it usual for training pics to be published when a player comes back? They're probably trying to keep him out of the spotlight until he's back, I'd guess.

They even write an article when he scores in training down there :lol:

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2014/01/photos-andy-carroll-scores-in-west-ham-training/

How long before he is crocked again?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Oakie Doke on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 02:35:24 PM
good news for England on the back of that Walcott injury. As one door closes, someone opens a window and lets a tramp in.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 03:13:15 PM
:lol: I didn't realise.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 03:20:29 PM
good news for England on the back of that Walcott injury. As one door closes, someone opens a window and lets a tramp in.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: wyn davies on Tuesday 7 January 2014, 04:51:07 PM
Is it usual for training pics to be published when a player comes back? They're probably trying to keep him out of the spotlight until he's back, I'd guess.

They even write an article when he scores in training down there :lol:

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2014/01/photos-andy-carroll-scores-in-west-ham-training/

How long before he is crocked again?

Exactly, more likely Alladice trying to delay the inevitable by making suggestions which won't happen
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Varadi on Wednesday 8 January 2014, 11:00:20 AM
Hopefully he comes back just in time to stop them splashing out on striker reinforcements then breaks down again as soon as the transfer window closes...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ujpest doza on Wednesday 8 January 2014, 05:24:29 PM
Be back just in time to score a hat trick against us by the sounds of things.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 8 January 2014, 07:23:24 PM
Miss this lad barn storming for us. His career post being sold to Liverpool has been f***ing s***.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 8 January 2014, 07:28:31 PM
Miss this lad barn storming for us. His career post being sold to Liverpool has been f***ing s***.

He had a mint 2010 in the Championship & Premier League, and a decent run-in last season with West Ham. He's 25, had just over a year where he's looked a talent, and cost over £50m in transfer fees. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 9 January 2014, 01:32:18 AM
Miss this lad barn storming for us. His career post being sold to Liverpool has been f***ing s***.

We are going to get him back this summer for peanuts, once West Ham fold, and he'll magically return to form.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 January 2014, 09:26:37 AM
I think nearly enough time has passed that I would take him back now, for a free or whatever. I wouldn't spend a decent transfer fee on him though.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Thursday 9 January 2014, 09:27:33 AM
Yeah, same. I'd feel better about signing him mind if he had a lengthy spell of playing without picking up knocks. The talent is there, we seen that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 9 January 2014, 08:44:03 PM
We're still desperate for an outlet up top and someone to dominate set pieces in both boxes. If he wasn't a crock I'd happily see us pay pretty big money for him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 9 January 2014, 08:45:40 PM
We're still desperate for an outlet up top and someone to dominate set pieces in both boxes. If he wasn't a crock I'd happily see us pay pretty big money for him.

Needs to be back in town drinking NE water getting drunk at NE bars and being taken care of by his folks again from time to time. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 9 January 2014, 08:51:58 PM
We're still desperate for an outlet up top and someone to dominate set pieces in both boxes. If he wasn't a crock I'd happily see us pay pretty big money for him.

Think him and Remy would be great.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The Bard of Byker on Thursday 9 January 2014, 09:07:41 PM
We're still desperate for an outlet up top and someone to dominate set pieces in both boxes. If he wasn't a crock I'd happily see us pay pretty big money for him.

Think him and Remy would be great.

(http://static.wine-searcher.net/images/labels/67/85/remy-martin-coeur-de-cognac-france-10356785.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 9 January 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Cognac.  :smitten:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Thursday 9 January 2014, 10:38:34 PM
Carrol is an extremely average striker, lower end PL player at best. I wouldn't even have him back on a free.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:13:58 PM
Carrol is an extremely average striker, lower end PL player at best. I wouldn't even have him back on a free.

 :ben:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:21:02 PM
I remember in one of his last game's for Liverpool against Chelsea when he had Terry on toast
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:33:52 PM
Wait all season to get him fit and then gamble on his fitness by rushing him back?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25680495

Quote
Sam Allardyce prepared to take Andy Carroll gamble at Cardiff

West Ham boss Sam Allardyce says he is willing to take a "calculated risk" on striker Andy Carroll for Saturday's "massive" game at Cardiff.

Carroll, 25, has not played this season because of a foot injury.

But with the Hammers second from bottom in the Premier League, Allardyce said Carroll could play a part.

"Ideally we would like to progress it a little slower but based on where we are it may be a calculated risk we're prepared to take," he said.

 Carroll scored seven goals for West Ham while on loan from Liverpool last season, but has been troubled by injury problems after making a record £15m move to Upton Park in the summer.

The Hammers face 17th-placed Cardiff having been thrashed 5-0 by Championship side Nottingham Forest last Sunday and 6-0 by Manchester City in their Capital One Cup semi-final first leg.

And the manner of defeat led a section of supporters to voice their disapproval towards Allardyce, who has received public and private backing from co-owners David Sullivan and David Gold.

Allardyce, who received an extension to his contract last summer keeping him at the club until 2015, has said he will keep on fighting as his side aim to overturn a run of one win in their last 10 games in their attempt to avoid relegation.

But although he thanked Gold and Sullivan for their support, when asked if he would survive a defeat at Cardiff, he replied: "I don't know, I will talk to you about that after we have played Cardiff."

Cardiff are two places above West Ham in the table but have been buoyed by a first win for new boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer at Newcastle in the FA Cup last Saturday.

 Allardyce, who said he was trying to sign Inter Milan striker Ishak Belfodil, explained that his team's problems had come from a lack of defensive cover, revealing that full-back Joey O'Brien had joined centre-backs Winston Reid and James Collins on the injured list.

But the 59-year-old said defender James Tomkins was back in the squad and he denied claims his players had not been committed in their last two games where they have conceded 11 goals.

The former Newcastle, Blackburn and Bolton boss said: "[The players] are committed, you can't question the commitment. It's an easy thing to say.

"The other easy thing to say by people in the outside world, is you've lost the dressing room, that goes hand in hand, then another easy thing to say is they are not fit enough. There's a lot of rubbish that gets bounded around.

"They are in a lack of confidence mode at the minute, I can tell you that, they are distraught about the way things are but we have to lift ourselves up. The Cardiff game is a massive game, in many ways much bigger than the Manchester City game."

On the fans turning against him at Manchester City on Wednesday, he added: "It's always difficult. When the club isn't doing as well as they think it should they will turn and show their disapproval, that's an acceptable fact of management today."

And Allardyce said of his pursuit of 21-year-old Algerian forward Belfodil. "We are trying. We have been trying for several weeks to be successful with one or two players. I thought I would be talking about one player at least today which we would have had in the country and signed but that fell into some paperwork problems."
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:44:39 PM
West Ham have basically bet everything that Carroll can get fit stay fit and hit top form very quickly and maintain it for 6 months. Hell of a gamble and moronic management by Hippo Head
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Wullie on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:45:29 PM
West Ham have basically bet everything that Carroll can get fit stay fit and hit top form very quickly and maintain it for 6 months. Hell of a gamble and moronic management by Hippo Head

Gambling his fitness in the hope of keeping his job. Nice.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:49:29 PM
It's not like he's throwing him in with a broken leg. He's reasonably fit, not match fit but worth getting him out there if not at the weekend sometime this month. The game is huge for them, the gamble could be worth the risk should they pick up 3pts and he plays his part.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:55:09 PM
It's not like he's throwing him in with a broken leg. He's reasonably fit, not match fit but worth getting him out there if not at the weekend sometime this month. The game is huge for them, the gamble could be worth the risk should they pick up 3pts and he plays his part.
it could also go the way it went for Moyes with RVP vs us, lose the game because the guys not fit and he picks up another injury in the process because he wasn't ready to come back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:57:15 PM
It stinks of the last desperate act of a desperate man............................or was that the signing of a 1st division center half
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Friday 10 January 2014, 08:59:36 PM
It's not like he's throwing him in with a broken leg. He's reasonably fit, not match fit but worth getting him out there if not at the weekend sometime this month. The game is huge for them, the gamble could be worth the risk should they pick up 3pts and he plays his part.
it could also go the way it went for Moyes with RVP vs us, lose the game because the guys not fit and he picks up another injury in the process because he wasn't ready to come back.

There is no debating that and I wasn't but there was less reason for Moyes playing RvP as it didn't need to be done. this is a huge game and his wham career could be over should he lose it.

He's rolling the dice, he has too it's all or nothing at this stage. I agree with the gamble, Carroll needs to start playing now if they stand a chance of staying up. Also it's better for him to break down with half the window gone than when it's closed.


Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:00:45 PM
It stinks of the last desperate act of a desperate man............................or was that the signing of a 1st division center half
boy did that ever show he has absolutely no imagination or scouting network in the slightest, would have been better off taking a gamble on some random young cb from the championship than signing him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chopey on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:02:26 PM
Titus Bramble is available
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:07:15 PM
It stinks of the last desperate act of a desperate man............................or was that the signing of a 1st division center half
boy did that ever show he has absolutely no imagination or scouting network in the slightest, would have been better off taking a gamble on some random young cb from the championship than signing him.

If he went out and did that he'd get laughed at as well. If Poyet went out and bought some young cb from Brighton whose had a few reasonable games in the championship you'd be howling at him.

Unfortunately the right player for a relegation battle either isn't available or isn't interested. Experienced pros probably stand a better chance than throwing in a young kid, especially at the heart of the defence.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Elliottman on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:09:34 PM
HTT says some really weird things at times.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:11:25 PM
It stinks of the last desperate act of a desperate man............................or was that the signing of a 1st division center half
boy did that ever show he has absolutely no imagination or scouting network in the slightest, would have been better off taking a gamble on some random young cb from the championship than signing him.

If he went out and did that he'd get laughed at as well. If Poyet went out and bought some young cb from Brighton whose had a few reasonable games in the championship you'd be howling at him.

Unfortunately the right player for a relegation battle either isn't available or isn't interested. Experienced pros probably stand a better chance than throwing in a young kid, especially at the heart of the defence.
no probably not since he trained them he'd have a good knowledge of whether they can maybe step up, what I'd say as I say when managers go back to previous club for players is it displays a distinct lack of imagination.

And seriously couldn't Allerdyce find a better cb anywhere in the world than Roger Johnson? It can't be that f***ing hard to find a half decent one rather than a fully useless one who's caused problems at his previous club including allegedly showing up drunk for training yes thats the kind of personality West Ham need to get out of the hole they're in.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:15:43 PM
It stinks of the last desperate act of a desperate man............................or was that the signing of a 1st division center half
boy did that ever show he has absolutely no imagination or scouting network in the slightest, would have been better off taking a gamble on some random young cb from the championship than signing him.

If he went out and did that he'd get laughed at as well. If Poyet went out and bought some young cb from Brighton whose had a few reasonable games in the championship you'd be howling at him.

Unfortunately the right player for a relegation battle either isn't available or isn't interested. Experienced pros probably stand a better chance than throwing in a young kid, especially at the heart of the defence.
no probably not since he trained them he'd have a good knowledge of whether they can maybe step up, what I'd say as I say when managers go back to previous club for players is it displays a distinct lack of imagination.

And seriously couldn't Allerdyce find a better cb anywhere in the world than Roger Johnson? It can't be that f***ing hard to find a half decent one rather than a fully useless one who's caused problems at his previous club including allegedly showing up drunk for training yes thats the kind of personality West Ham need to get out of the hole they're in.

Sam is throwing him a premiership lifeline. There is talent in Johnson but he's wasted it. Massive second chance this, it's not a laughable move until you see how he responds or if he steps up. I think he'll be steady for them, certainly no worse than a lot of cbs down there.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:32:52 PM

It stinks of the last desperate act of a desperate man............................or was that the signing of a 1st division center half
boy did that ever show he has absolutely no imagination or scouting network in the slightest, would have been better off taking a gamble on some random young cb from the championship than signing him.

If he went out and did that he'd get laughed at as well. If Poyet went out and bought some young cb from Brighton whose had a few reasonable games in the championship you'd be howling at him.

Unfortunately the right player for a relegation battle either isn't available or isn't interested. Experienced pros probably stand a better chance than throwing in a young kid, especially at the heart of the defence.
no probably not since he trained them he'd have a good knowledge of whether they can maybe step up, what I'd say as I say when managers go back to previous club for players is it displays a distinct lack of imagination.

And seriously couldn't Allerdyce find a better cb anywhere in the world than Roger Johnson? It can't be that f***ing hard to find a half decent one rather than a fully useless one who's caused problems at his previous club including allegedly showing up drunk for training yes thats the kind of personality West Ham need to get out of the hole they're in.

Sam is throwing him a premiership lifeline. There is talent in Johnson but he's wasted it. Massive second chance this, it's not a laughable move until you see how he responds or if he steps up. I think he'll be steady for them, certainly no worse than a lot of cbs down there.

Johnson is awful man, my best mate is a wolves fan and can't stand him, far more bothered about beer than he is football
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Parky on Friday 10 January 2014, 09:52:58 PM
Pards dream striker. Big immobile lump to aim at.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 10 January 2014, 10:01:52 PM
He's hardly immobile like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Parky on Friday 10 January 2014, 10:08:25 PM
He's hardly immobile like.

Just needs a ponytail.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Friday 10 January 2014, 11:13:24 PM
 Immobile has short back and sides TBH
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Saturday 11 January 2014, 02:34:41 PM
On the bench today.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Saturday 11 January 2014, 05:02:12 PM
Chipped in with an assist already, BRING HIM HOME  :frantic:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Saturday 11 January 2014, 05:02:44 PM
God, he was bad.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Saturday 11 January 2014, 05:05:10 PM
God, he was bad.

What do you expect from someone playing in his first 15 mins of the season? He even assisted the 2nd goal. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Saturday 11 January 2014, 05:07:40 PM
He couldn't even trap the ball.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bimpy474 on Saturday 11 January 2014, 05:09:11 PM
He couldn't even trap the ball.

Aye but can he eat an apple while doing it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 11 January 2014, 09:39:08 PM
Did he assist? Did Johnson keep a clean sheet?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BenArfa10 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:10:50 PM
Played against us for the sixth time today  since leaving, and despite all of the hype surrounding him he's managed to do absolutely nothing except dive to try and get a penalty. On top of that he looks like a massive tramp.  O0
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bimpy474 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:11:47 PM
Missed a sitter and gave away the free kick for the 3rd goal. Cheers you tit :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BenArfa10 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:25:37 PM
He's never been the same really since he got injured in December 2010. I think it was a thigh or groin or ankle (can't remember). Don't think he ever will be the same again. He had his golden spell in his first 4 months with us in the Prem. He got bigged up by the press because he was 'old fashioned and English'. Got his huge move (money wise), one which was way too soon for him and to the wrong club. Never got a chance at Liverpool because apparently he didn't fit their style. At the time Dalglish was under a lot of pressure and he needed a big signing to appease the fans and it just happened that Carroll was flavour of the month. Maybe his lack of game time at Liverpool has contributed to his injuries at West Ham? He had a decent spell whilst on loan but the injuries have piled up for him and even their owners admit that they are not sure it was a good decision to sign him. Don't know where he'll end up after West Ham, perhaps he'll come back to us but judging from the last couple of seasons I don't want him back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: aussiemag on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:27:01 PM
Still think hes a good option for most squads to have, hes unbeatable in the air and a battering ram. Id still have him back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:27:19 PM
He's just back from a long-term injury. What's all this about?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: SiLvOR on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:27:46 PM
Toilet.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:27:48 PM
That technique for his chance is something I'd have been ashamed of.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: David28 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:28:07 PM
Think he'd look a totally different player in a black and white nr. 9 shirt again.

I'd carry Cisse to London if it meant switching him with Carroll.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:29:54 PM
He'll still scare the living s**** out of defenders due to his strenght and power in the air.

If West Ham are to stay up they really need him match fit asap.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:30:43 PM
Think he'd look a totally different player in a black and white nr. 9 shirt again.

I'd carry Cisse to London if it meant switching him with Carroll.

He had his chance. He can have a fatal hair straightening accident as far as I am concerned, definitely wouldn't let him wear the number 9 shirt he s*** all over last time.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 18 January 2014, 05:38:43 PM
Not match fit today and I'm grateful the tramp didn't score. :)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Saturday 18 January 2014, 06:02:03 PM
Still think there is something there with this lad if he knuckles down and works hard. He has a chance to get a decent amount of England caps if he can stay fit.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 06:03:05 PM
He's bang average, just a big lump with a bit strength who can hammer the ball with his left foot to good effect at times.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Saturday 18 January 2014, 06:03:56 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 18 January 2014, 06:32:09 PM
:anguish:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Oakie Doke on Saturday 18 January 2014, 06:33:37 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.
and humanity.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 06:47:00 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sugoinufc on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:10:51 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

well - you basically just described Mike W there (except the part about being professional)

Well i think people are way to harsh on Carroll. He was a local lad living his boyhood dream - only for a short time before he was being asked to leave. Going to liverpool on those wages isn´t the worst - but then being dropped and then forced to WH. Well he probably never asked for any of this.

I hope he will recover some form. He isn´t really my kind of player but if he could return to former strength then i would be happy to have here as a option (1 out of 4 hopefully) Carroll on form is 1000% better than that lazy donkey - shola!



Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:16:12 PM
On form he can be great very old fashioned striker, nothing wrong with it really, you can play direct footy scoring from set pieces and from the wings without being boring to watch imo, boring to watch is launching from the back all the time and trying to kick the other team off the pitch.

I'm not sure Carroll is all that great, but playing with a proper strike partner in an attacking team with proper width he could be great to watch, may be a throw back but don't see him as 'horrible'

Mind you yes i think modern teams can take apart teams going all out out attacking 4-4-2 quite easily, possession usually trumps it, so usually you get very negative 2 flat ranks of four instead giving it a bad name. I think the league is lacking in quality 'proper' wide players too
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: biggs on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:20:13 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

well - you basically just described Mike W there (except the part about being professional)

Well i think people are way to harsh on Carroll. He was a local lad living his boyhood dream - only for a short time before he was being asked to leave. Going to liverpool on those wages isn´t the worst - but then being dropped and then forced to WH. Well he probably never asked for any of this.

I hope he will recover some form. He isn´t really my kind of player but if he could return to former strength then i would be happy to have here as a option (1 out of 4 hopefully) Carroll on form is 1000% better than that lazy donkey - shola!




O0 Getting s*** loads of abuse and tbh from people who i thought would be a lot more understanding ,he certainly looks the part from his England appearances and "all thats wrong with English football " have a word with ya self as there are a hell of a lot worse characters plying there trade out there ,he never set that fee and the way he was treated at Liverpool was nothing short of disgraceful and many would agree on this board .
 
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jordan on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:20:55 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.
and humanity.
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:22:26 PM
I'd take him back but he's really nowt special, so I can't say I'd be expecting him to become the new Shearer or any s*** like that. Far more likely to be the new Shola tbh.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:25:09 PM
I'd take him back but he's really nowt special, so I can't say I'd be expecting him to become the new Shearer or any s*** like that. Far more likely to be the new Shola tbh.

I don't rate him that greatly, but I'd sooner him come on at 60 minutes than Ameobi. Also, the way he was whisked off in a helicopter without an explanation of why he was being sold was disgusting so would be nice to have him back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Willow on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:28:55 PM
35 million pounds.





35. million. pounds.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:29:24 PM
Even what West Ham paid is about £6-7m too much imo.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:34:49 PM
Really strange to be having this conversation now like. He's played twice from the bench after a long lay-off. He was playing well for them before his injury.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HawK on Saturday 18 January 2014, 07:59:26 PM
Was absolutely unplayable when he played for us in the second half of the championship season and the first half of the prem. So much potential, the injury he suffered just before the mega-bucks transfer and the transfer itself has killed him football-wise. He could have been fantastic as a no. 9, holding the ball up, flicking it on. The goal against Liverpool from outside the area when the defenders just stood and didn't know what to do and he thumped it with his left foot to the bottom right corner from the left side.

But he's no-where near that now. What a waste.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:03:13 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:05:31 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

Agree. Would make an excellent focal point for our attack if fully fit. Unplayable when fit and served correctly. Good out when under pressure too .
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:05:34 PM
Him and Remy upfront and 2 high quality wide players giving width and it'd be amazing. Sadly we don't have all that much width (albeit Sissoko and Debuchy have added that to our game this season) so we'd have to do a lot of team rebuilding.

I also think if this happened pardew would turn it into hoofing from the back without any attacking movement so I prefer us playing inside out forwards and keeping it on the deck.

There is good direct play and boring hoofball, there is a difference.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: midds on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:07:08 PM
Was absolutely unplayable when he played for us in the second half of the championship season and the first half of the prem. So much potential, the injury he suffered just before the mega-bucks transfer and the transfer itself has killed him football-wise. He could have been fantastic as a no. 9, holding the ball up, flicking it on. The goal against Liverpool from outside the area when the defenders just stood and didn't know what to do and he thumped it with his left foot to the bottom right corner from the left side.

But he's no-where near that now. What a waste.

This is pretty much where I'm at too. He was phenomenal for a short while and gave every CB pairing he faced massive problems, few could handle him. He went for a massive amount of money and it's turned to s***. He'll look back at that deadline day as a crossroads in his career and it went to s*** for him.

Maybe there's a player still in there but he looked a shadow of himself since he moved on. Not our problem to worry about any more though.   
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: CFlan on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:19:38 PM
When he was at his peak with us the journos couldn't get him to a "big" club quick enough. Every week they were linking him with a move away from us and when he left his form dropped. He was happy and in his comfort zone here and I believe had he stayed that he'd still be a fantastic player for us.
I loved Ba,Cisse and Remy since but there was nothing better than watching a product of our much maligned academy absolutely bossing defenders on a weekly basis and getting getting all plaudits on his England debut. I hope he comes back some day.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:21:45 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

Under this cretin aye, but I'd rather a footballer up there than some lump like Carroll. People slag Shola yet Carroll is essentially similar.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:23:00 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

Agree. Would make an excellent focal point for our attack if fully fit. Unplayable when fit and served correctly. Good out when under pressure too .
When was the last time he was unplayable over a consistent period though?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:24:55 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

Under this cretin aye, but I'd rather a footballer up there than some lump like Carroll. People slag Shola yet Carroll is essentially similar.

Give over, mate. Carroll's 10 times the player that useless statue is.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:25:18 PM
Was absolutely unplayable when he played for us in the second half of the championship season and the first half of the prem. So much potential, the injury he suffered just before the mega-bucks transfer and the transfer itself has killed him football-wise. He could have been fantastic as a no. 9, holding the ball up, flicking it on. The goal against Liverpool from outside the area when the defenders just stood and didn't know what to do and he thumped it with his left foot to the bottom right corner from the left side.

But he's no-where near that now. What a waste.

This is pretty much where I'm at too. He was phenomenal for a short while and gave every CB pairing he faced massive problems, few could handle him. He went for a massive amount of money and it's turned to s***. He'll look back at that deadline day as a crossroads in his career and it went to s*** for him.

Maybe there's a player still in there but he looked a shadow of himself since he moved on. Not our problem to worry about any more though.
I do wonder how much is it down to motivation, he clearly loved being the focal point of our attack and played with that much more drive and determination to fill the no 9 shirt. Just seems to me he lost that hunger once he left
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:27:30 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

Under this cretin aye, but I'd rather a footballer up there than some lump like Carroll. People slag Shola yet Carroll is essentially similar.

Give over, mate. Carroll's 10 times the player that useless statue is.
Yeah, I'd rather have an out of form Carroll than an in form Shola.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: midds on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:29:14 PM
Was absolutely unplayable when he played for us in the second half of the championship season and the first half of the prem. So much potential, the injury he suffered just before the mega-bucks transfer and the transfer itself has killed him football-wise. He could have been fantastic as a no. 9, holding the ball up, flicking it on. The goal against Liverpool from outside the area when the defenders just stood and didn't know what to do and he thumped it with his left foot to the bottom right corner from the left side.

But he's no-where near that now. What a waste.

This is pretty much where I'm at too. He was phenomenal for a short while and gave every CB pairing he faced massive problems, few could handle him. He went for a massive amount of money and it's turned to s***. He'll look back at that deadline day as a crossroads in his career and it went to s*** for him.

Maybe there's a player still in there but he looked a shadow of himself since he moved on. Not our problem to worry about any more though.
I do wonder how much is it down to motivation, he clearly loved being the focal point of our attack and played with that much more drive and determination to fill the no 9 shirt. Just seems to me he lost that hunger once he left

We'll never know but that seems very plausible to me. From #9 at his boyhood club and in fantastic form to having to prove himself with a £35m pricetag around his neck overnight.

Meh, you make decisions over the course of your life and live with the consequences of them.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:32:02 PM
Was absolutely unplayable when he played for us in the second half of the championship season and the first half of the prem. So much potential, the injury he suffered just before the mega-bucks transfer and the transfer itself has killed him football-wise. He could have been fantastic as a no. 9, holding the ball up, flicking it on. The goal against Liverpool from outside the area when the defenders just stood and didn't know what to do and he thumped it with his left foot to the bottom right corner from the left side.

But he's no-where near that now. What a waste.

This is pretty much where I'm at too. He was phenomenal for a short while and gave every CB pairing he faced massive problems, few could handle him. He went for a massive amount of money and it's turned to s***. He'll look back at that deadline day as a crossroads in his career and it went to s*** for him.

Maybe there's a player still in there but he looked a shadow of himself since he moved on. Not our problem to worry about any more though.
I do wonder how much is it down to motivation, he clearly loved being the focal point of our attack and played with that much more drive and determination to fill the no 9 shirt. Just seems to me he lost that hunger once he left

We'll never know but that seems very plausible to me. From #9 at his boyhood club and in fantastic form to having to prove himself with a £35m pricetag around his neck overnight.

Meh, you make decisions over the course of your life and live with the consequences of them.
Was he even that much of a fan of us?
I mean he had just signed a mega contract with us, but he was happy to jack in the number 9 shirt, reportedly the best contract at the club for a slightly better contract at Liverpool.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:33:58 PM
I think he still has the ability to be a very good player but there's serious question marks over his fitness thesedays and also his attitude. Does he really do everything he can to get back fit as quickly as possible lifestyle wise. I'd say it's probably more along the lines of enjoying the lifestyle the absurd contract West Ham gave him.

Looked set to become a local number 9 legend but as it stands the move to Liverpool and injuries looks to have stunted his career. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes on to become a journey man going from club to club with the odd purple streak coupled with months and months out.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: womblemaster on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:34:21 PM
`Just seems to me he lost that hunger once he left `

strikers are egotastic beasts......his pride may have taken a big hit once he realised he was dispensable....
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:35:10 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

Under this cretin aye, but I'd rather a footballer up there than some lump like Carroll. People slag Shola yet Carroll is essentially similar.

Give over, mate. Carroll's 10 times the player that useless statue is.

Is he f***, a very very brief spell for us aside he has looked every inch the white Ameobi, he is a talentless lump whose main strength is strength and height. That's not football, that's Allardyce/Pulis tactics. Even at his best for us he looked like a distinctly average footballer. He has been out a while and isn't fit but his touch and overall awareness was shocking today. He won lots of headers but most were directed or powered to no-one or nowhere in particular. He's f***ing s**** and that's why he's at West Ham with Big Sam. I'd rather have Best back!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:40:05 PM
2010 might just turn out to be one of the most pivotal years in our history and from February onwards he was the best player by a mile.

'f***ing s****.' Honestly. What the hell does that make Shola?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:42:14 PM
2010 might just turn out to be one of the most pivotal years in our history and from February onwards he was the best player by a mile.

'f***ing s****.' Honestly. What the hell does that make Shola?

He's had 1 and a bit very good seasons (half being at a lower level) in 6 years. I can see why people don't rate him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:44:55 PM
He's just turned 25. I'm not saying he's a great player but it's laughable that folk still want to stick the knife in when he's proved himself to be better than all of our forwards bar Remy.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Leazes1986 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:46:21 PM
Don't understand how anyone on here can knock Carroll as a player when fit. He's a brilliant centre foward WHEN he's 100%. You can laugh at the price tag and his fitness record, but he was a beast for us and would be again if he could stay fit.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:50:46 PM
I discount the Championship, when fit even Shola looked a world beater. Carroll had a brief purple patch at NUFC but even then he still looked like an average or limited footballer. Since leaving us he has looked like a complete and utter cart hoarse. I work in Liverpool a lot and a good number of Reds reckon he is up there with the worst they have ever seen in their colours.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:52:23 PM
I do love reading about the Liverpool fans' perspective, always makes me question my own convictions a little.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:52:30 PM
I discount the Championship, when fit even Shola looked a world beater. Carroll had a brief purple patch at NUFC but even then he still looked like an average or limited footballer. Since leaving us he has looked like a complete and utter cart hoarse. I work in Liverpool a lot and a good number of Reds reckon he is up there with the worst they have ever seen in their colours.

No he didn't. He had pretty much everything.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:54:24 PM
He's just turned 25. I'm not saying he's a great player but it's laughable that folk still want to stick the knife in when he's proved himself to be better than all of our forwards bar Remy.

Saying he is better than Shola and Cisse in the form he is in is akin to saying Stalin was better than Hittler. He is a s*** footballer end of. The fact he is strong or a handful doesn't make him a good footballer. He has no footballing redeeming features whatsoever.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:57:03 PM
He's just turned 25. I'm not saying he's a great player but it's laughable that folk still want to stick the knife in when he's proved himself to be better than all of our forwards bar Remy.
Don't think he's proven himself to be better than Cisse.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:58:11 PM
I discount the Championship, when fit even Shola looked a world beater. Carroll had a brief purple patch at NUFC but even then he still looked like an average or limited footballer. Since leaving us he has looked like a complete and utter cart hoarse. I work in Liverpool a lot and a good number of Reds reckon he is up there with the worst they have ever seen in their colours.

No he didn't. He had pretty much everything.

Like what? Anyway if he was this unstoppable, unplayable, ultimate CF he wouldn't be at WH put it that way. The reason he was allowed to leave Liverpool at such a huge loss is because he is s**** and nothing could ever disguise that fact. I guarantee he will never ever amount to more than what he is right now, an injury prone WH target man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:58:20 PM
Shola's career is arguably over when this season ends and has scored 51 club goals, Carroll still has 5-8 years left and has so far scored 31 club goals.

Conversation over.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:58:53 PM
He's just turned 25. I'm not saying he's a great player but it's laughable that folk still want to stick the knife in when he's proved himself to be better than all of our forwards bar Remy.

Saying he is better than Shola and Cisse in the form he is in is akin to saying Stalin was better than Hittler. He is a s*** footballer end of. The fact he is strong or a handful doesn't make him a good footballer. He has no footballing redeeming features whatsoever.

20 goals or thereabouts with his feet in 2010 says this post might be bullshit.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:04:57 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

Agree. Would make an excellent focal point for our attack if fully fit. Unplayable when fit and served correctly. Good out when under pressure too .
When was the last time he was unplayable over a consistent period though?

Consistently?  Probably as a Newcastle player. I'd willingly pay 6 million or so to see if he could recreate what he had before. Bet he wishes he could have the last 3 years back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:07:59 PM
Carroll is a decent striker on his day.  Should remember he's just coming back from a 7 month lay-off into a very poor side.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DebuchyAndTheBeast on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:08:35 PM
The problem with Carroll is that your whole team needs to be built around him. You need 2 wingers who can cross on each side, 2 midfielders who can also put a decent ball on his head, a striker who can anticipate and gamble on knockdowns, a back four who can also launch it forward on his head and a keeper who has a decent kicking. Think that definitely rules us out  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:15:38 PM
We had almost none of that when he was at his best for us. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:21:40 PM
Shola's career is arguably over when this season ends and has scored 51 club goals, Carroll still has 5-8 years left and has so far scored 31 club goals.

Conversation over.

Probably the best thing you'e wrote on here, although I don't think the stats are right.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:23:34 PM
He has 45 league goals for all his clubs.

Shola does have 51. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:49:54 PM
Never rated this lad and never will. Horrible player and all that's wrong with English football.

Agreed. He has no technique, no vision, no skills. He is just a big lump who is strong and a bit physical. Its only throw-backs like Dalglish and Allardyce that have kept someone like Carroll a PL player. He had a purple patch for us for a brief spell but he still looked a bang average footballer and in time I reckon he'd have become just another Shola type for us, but without the professionalism and right attitude.

2 shocking posts there. Whatever his weaknesses, he'd walk into our side when fit.

:thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:53:46 PM
He has been s**** ever since he left like, don't even think it can be disputed. Injured, s****, unfit - he's simply jumped from one to the other. Didn't want him both of the last 2 summers and still wouldn't want him back now.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:56:59 PM
He has been s**** ever since he left like, don't even think it can be disputed. Injured, s****, unfit - he's simply jumped from one to the other. Didn't want him both of the last 2 summers and still wouldn't want him back now.

He was just starting to get a bit of form when Dogleash got the tin tack to be fair to him. Obviously Blobfish didn't want a bar of him. But he did ok for England at Euro 12 when he was called upon. I still think there is a very good target man centre forward in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 09:58:58 PM
still got nee right foot
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:01:59 PM
He has been s**** ever since he left like, don't even think it can be disputed. Injured, s****, unfit - he's simply jumped from one to the other. Didn't want him both of the last 2 summers and still wouldn't want him back now.

Looked decent at the back end of last season, hence the reason why West Ham foolishly spunked most of their transfer budget on him.

He's one of the better strikers I've ever seen play for the club, guy was looking like a world beater in the half season before he was sold.

Think he'll end up being a Duncan Ferguson type who is impossible to deal with on his day but ends up injured too much.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Leazes1986 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:06:43 PM
Duncan Ferguson is probably a good comparison, although I think Carroll is a better player than him, potentially much better, we might never see it though. Ferguson was a monster on his day.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Carroll is not better than Ferguson was like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:08:05 PM
Ferguson was a tremendous striker, without the injuries I think you'd be talking about him in the safe breath as the likes of Yorke, Sheringham and Wright.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:08:43 PM
Carroll is not better than Ferguson was like.

Agree tbh, not until he's done more than he has anyway.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Leazes1986 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:10:49 PM
If he's not better then the level we seen him in 2010 was certainly as good as, and there's definitely room and time for improvement. I loved Ferguson as well, him and Shearer were brilliant in the limited time they had.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:11:12 PM
He has been s**** ever since he left like, don't even think it can be disputed. Injured, s****, unfit - he's simply jumped from one to the other. Didn't want him both of the last 2 summers and still wouldn't want him back now.

Looked decent at the back end of last season, hence the reason why West Ham foolishly spunked most of their transfer budget on him.

He's one of the better strikers I've ever seen play for the club, guy was looking like a world beater in the half season before he was sold.

Think he'll end up being a Duncan Ferguson type who is impossible to deal with on his day but ends up injured too much.

Always seems to be more hype and bluster with him than ever actually happening. I'm scared everytime we play him expecting him to score but he's been massively s**** every time. Like can't even trap a ball bad. His record is like 1 in 6 since going too looking briefly.

I can't really remember his upturn of form at the end of last season such was I avoiding all football other than ours, but I'll take people's word for it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:23:05 PM
Sure I remember him scoring/assisting most games at the back end for them. It was that time when he completely poleaxed David de Gea.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:29:26 PM
Like can't even trap a ball bad. His record is like 1 in 6 since going too looking briefly.

???
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Leazes1986 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:38:16 PM
This board was going f***ing mental when we were selling him, regardless of the fee. It wasn't just because we weren't going to replace him either, it was because he looked brilliant for us.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:41:40 PM
This board was going f***ing mental when we were selling him, regardless of the fee. It wasn't just because we weren't going to replace him either, it was because he looked brilliant for us.

Think it was mainly to do with how the whole transfer played out, his form and the fact he was a local lad.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DebuchyAndTheBeast on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:43:25 PM
We had almost none of that when he was at his best for us. :lol:

That's why I think that any team with Carroll leading the line would struggle to break in the top half of the table... unless they have some of the attributes I mentioned above  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:46:40 PM
We must have been in the top half when Carroll scored his goal for us and got injured. We certainly would've finished top half if we'd kept him all season.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:47:48 PM
That miss looks deliberate seeing it back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:48:46 PM
It wouldn't surprise me one bit. He absolutely loves us and looks totally uncomfortable playing against us.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:49:31 PM
Like can't even trap a ball bad. His record is like 1 in 6 since going too looking briefly.

???

13 in 70 in the league since he left.

1 in 5.4 games then
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:49:32 PM
His technique just isn't very good - a huge limiting factor in any potential he might have.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:50:55 PM
I'm with Ronaldo on this one, he can be unplayable set up right and his career is rather sad really considering what might have been. Having said that as have said not sure any team in premier league is set up right, needs genuine quality wide players, not Jarvis and Downing. Not sure there are any about anymore mind.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:51:26 PM
It wouldn't surprise me one bit. He absolutely loves us and looks totally uncomfortable playing against us.

I really hope this is sarcasm :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:52:26 PM
I'm with Ronaldo on this one, he can be unplayable set up right and his career is rather sad really considering what might have been. Having said that as have said not sure any team in premier league is set up right, needs genuine quality wide players, not Jarvis and Downing. Not sure there are any about anymore mind.

He can sometimes look unplayable in the air.  Occasionally.  That's it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:53:03 PM
Like whenever he gets service.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:54:09 PM
As I said earlier, if he was playing up front for us alongside Remy, with Debuchy and Sissoko one side, and some left wingers who could do crosses the other side, we'd be scoring plenty. Teams aren't built for his type anymore, and I'm glad we're not in a way, but people talk as if he's no better than Shola ffs.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:55:15 PM
Shame that he can't control a ball, is immobile and isn't very good at finishing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:55:41 PM
People have such short memories  :fool:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:55:50 PM
As I said earlier, if he was playing up front for us alongside Remy, with Debuchy and Sissoko one side, and some left wingers who could do crosses the other side, we'd be scoring plenty. Teams aren't built for his type anymore, and I'm glad we're not in a way, but people talk as if he's no better than Shola ffs.

Of course he's better than Shola - but he is just incredibly limited.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 10:57:00 PM
People have such short memories  :fool:

It's just bias, mate.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:00:10 PM
Bias against who?  I don't even dislike the bloke - I was surprised people booed him today as I see no reason to hold a grudge against him.  I was actually saying to my brother at the game that I feel a little sorry for him.  He just isn't very good.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:00:10 PM
He is more physical than most, I wouldn't say he was immobile at all but was never impressed with his ground work. Even that goal against Liverpool seemed a little scuffed, it certainly wasn't a cracker. He never seemed to have that in his locker while he was here, may have smashed some amazing goals since he left but I haven't seen them.

He is unplayable when there is a lot of decent balls going into the box but that is about it imo.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:02:07 PM
He is more physical than most, I wouldn't say he was immobile at all but was never impressed with his ground work. Even that goal against Liverpool seemed a little scuffed, it certainly wasn't a cracker. He never seemed to have that in his locker while he was here, may have smashed some amazing goals since he left but I haven't seen them.

He is unplayable when there is a lot of decent balls going into the box but that is about it imo.

I don't disagree with that but you can build a squad where you get a lot of decent balls into the box and then bob's your uncle  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:33:14 PM
He's a good asset for a team that's hoping to stay in the Premiership, but his movement isn't good enough for any club that's aiming for the European places.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:36:45 PM
Didn't look out of place at International level which to me means he isn't s***. He isn't immobile either, when fully fit of course.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: alpal78 on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:50:54 PM

It wouldn't surprise me one bit. He absolutely loves us and looks totally uncomfortable playing against us.

What a joke of a post. The Carroll worship continues. Not only are his technical skills (of which he has very little) exaggerated, now he's deliberately not scoring against us because "he loves us". Ya that's why he left us for Liverpool! You've had some idiotic posts but this one tops it all!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:53:15 PM
I've missed you, man.

Carroll worship. :lol:

You can't ever say anyone's better than any of our regular starting Xl on here without being accused of being a fanboy. It's the ultimate irony.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:53:49 PM
Didn't look out of place at International level which to me means he isn't s***. He isn't immobile either, when fully fit of course.

Exactly. :thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:54:11 PM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Oakie Doke on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:56:40 PM
and not even a good Liverpool FC. He left us for a team being built around Jay Spearing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: afar on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:01:28 AM
Bias against who?  I don't even dislike the bloke - I was surprised people booed him today as I see no reason to hold a grudge against him.  I was actually saying to my brother at the game that I feel a little sorry for him.  He just isn't very good.

That's just f***ing stupid. Rewatch the Aston Villa game where we beat them 6-0. That game was as complete a centre forward display as I've ever seen. On his day Carroll can be absolutely unplayable. He's just been ravaged by injury, he'll never find any kind of form again until he can play consistently for a 6 months or so. The only reason I wouldn't have him back at SJP is because of his injury record, nothing to do with his ability at all.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:02:14 AM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.

Not sure what I'd say if the club said "Liverpool have offered us £35m and we want to sell you, so off you go" but we've been here before.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:03:01 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:03:50 AM
Guy put in a transfer request.

But aye, this isn't worth revisiting I don't think. :lol:

He's probably f***ed and I think he's a dick. That's my immovable opinion. :laugh:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: afar on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:04:46 AM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.

He may and he may not. He's set up for life with the two moves. He might not have gotten that in 10 years with us. He's also probably thinking that had he not been sold he could have struggled to get another contract with us based on the amount of injuries he's picked up.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:06:46 AM
I struggle to believe that his contract at Newcastle wouldn't have set him up for life, like. Let's say he was on something 'modest' like £30k a week. In ten years that's over £15m.

Pure greed. Obviously, he's one of hundreds.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:08:20 AM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.

He may and he may not. He's set up for life with the two moves. He might not have gotten that in 10 years with us. He's also probably thinking that had he not been sold he could have struggled to get another contract with us based on the amount of injuries he's picked up.

I know we're not the biggest payers but come on. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:17:02 AM
Bias against who?  I don't even dislike the bloke - I was surprised people booed him today as I see no reason to hold a grudge against him.  I was actually saying to my brother at the game that I feel a little sorry for him.  He just isn't very good.

That's just f***ing stupid. Rewatch the Aston Villa game where we beat them 6-0. That game was as complete a centre forward display as I've ever seen. On his day Carroll can be absolutely unplayable. He's just been ravaged by injury, he'll never find any kind of form again until he can play consistently for a 6 months or so. The only reason I wouldn't have him back at SJP is because of his injury record, nothing to do with his ability at all.
Caveat caveat caveat. On his day, Kenwyn Jones is unplayable.

Carroll was good against a poor Villa side. Any more examples of Carroll being 'absolutely unplayable'? Any against good defences?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:18:41 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:36:34 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdvAbe7IEAAVGwp.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Peppe on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:39:25 AM
He looks like a hobo
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:42:42 AM
f*** him
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: nemtizz on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:50:59 AM
f*** him

Looks like he's about to.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bimpy474 on Sunday 19 January 2014, 12:55:41 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdvAbe7IEAAVGwp.jpg)

Why does he have an erection ?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: nemtizz on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:00:15 AM
#package ennit

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Wallace on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:04:02 AM
Carroll has always needed loads of games to look a player again after injury.  And he is yet to play well against us with either Liverpool or West Ham. 
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sugoinufc on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:10:21 AM
It wouldn't surprise me one bit. He absolutely loves us and looks totally uncomfortable playing against us.

agree.

people judge him by his price tag...not his fault. his england goal against sweden is so good, great option to have.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sugoinufc on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:14:20 AM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.

you know nothing ffs. silly post :crazy2:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:16:18 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:44:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdvAbe7IEAAVGwp.jpg)

Why does he have an erection ?

Aye, noticed that too. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:04:17 AM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.

you know nothing ffs. silly post :crazy2:

:okay: :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:05:37 AM
That's yee telt.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:08:01 AM
Bruised.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: afar on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:27:14 AM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.

He may and he may not. He's set up for life with the two moves. He might not have gotten that in 10 years with us. He's also probably thinking that had he not been sold he could have struggled to get another contract with us based on the amount of injuries he's picked up.

I know we're not the biggest payers but come on. :lol:
He got two hefty signing on fees on 87K or something stupid at Liverpool, I'm sure West ham are paying him pretty close to that too. Easily 10 years before we were  close to matching that kind of income for him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HawK on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:30:49 AM
Besides, he made some of our team look so good that pundits were asking why Barton and Nolan weren't in the England fold, because he didn't need 3,4,5 balls in to get one on target. Put so many on a plate for Nolan that he was outscoring Lampard. One chance, one goal aerially. Hand on heart, better in the air than Ferdinand was and he was an absolute beast in the air. Broke my heart when he left, nothing to back it up to hand but my opinion is that Mike Ashley with a 35m offer simply said 'You better start driving, son'. This was the beginning of the end for NUFC as I knew it, as I realised that we weren't going to ever be one of the big clubs any more.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: afar on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:40:40 AM
Bias against who?  I don't even dislike the bloke - I was surprised people booed him today as I see no reason to hold a grudge against him.  I was actually saying to my brother at the game that I feel a little sorry for him.  He just isn't very good.

That's just f***ing stupid. Rewatch the Aston Villa game where we beat them 6-0. That game was as complete a centre forward display as I've ever seen. On his day Carroll can be absolutely unplayable. He's just been ravaged by injury, he'll never find any kind of form again until he can play consistently for a 6 months or so. The only reason I wouldn't have him back at SJP is because of his injury record, nothing to do with his ability at all.
Caveat caveat caveat. On his day, Kenwyn Jones is unplayable.

Carroll was good against a poor Villa side. Any more examples of Carroll being 'absolutely unplayable'? Any against good defences?

Really we doing this ? Off the top of my head, Arsenal away Liverpool at home that season. There was a reason why Liverpool paid 35 mill, others were prepared to go in 20 million plus territory, they guy was tearing up the league that year. We sold him at the perfect time from a financial point of view.

Saying he's limited or not very good to use your words, is just plain stupid man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:58:14 AM
Arsenal away he was insanely good, pretty much won that game on his own.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: n4e on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:47:18 AM
Arsenal away he was insanely good, pretty much won that game on his own.

Tiote was class that game too, made Fabregas and Wilshire look awful.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Sunday 19 January 2014, 07:08:59 AM
Carroll is still very much learning his trade. He needs a run of games to get that sharpness back but I'm not sure he'll play consistently without picking up injuries.

He is a handful for defences when he's playing regularly. He needs the right set up around him as I don't think he'll match the scoring ratio he had with us, but in terms of being a focal point with the right players buzzing around him, I think he's got a decent career in the game ahead of him. If he stays fit of course. I don't think he'll play for a top club but he has an opportunity to get a good amount of England caps if he can get fit for a long period and get into his stride again.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Sunday 19 January 2014, 08:19:56 AM
Bias against who?  I don't even dislike the bloke - I was surprised people booed him today as I see no reason to hold a grudge against him.  I was actually saying to my brother at the game that I feel a little sorry for him.  He just isn't very good.

That's just f***ing stupid. Rewatch the Aston Villa game where we beat them 6-0. That game was as complete a centre forward display as I've ever seen. On his day Carroll can be absolutely unplayable. He's just been ravaged by injury, he'll never find any kind of form again until he can play consistently for a 6 months or so. The only reason I wouldn't have him back at SJP is because of his injury record, nothing to do with his ability at all.
Caveat caveat caveat. On his day, Kenwyn Jones is unplayable.

Carroll was good against a poor Villa side. Any more examples of Carroll being 'absolutely unplayable'? Any against good defences?

Really we doing this ? Off the top of my head, Arsenal away Liverpool at home that season. There was a reason why Liverpool paid 35 mill, others were prepared to go in 20 million plus territory, they guy was tearing up the league that year. We sold him at the perfect time from a financial point of view.

Saying he's limited or not very good to use your words, is just plain stupid man.

We can agree to disagree.  If you genuinely think Carroll is not a limited player, no point continuing.  I'll be absolutely amazed if he manages to score more than 60 league goals in the rest of his career.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 19 January 2014, 08:35:37 AM
Can't believe anyone still thinks he loves us after that dive vs Liverpool. Of course he only did it because he couldn't bare scoring against us, getting Krul sent off and letting someone else score would have been much better  :yao:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sugoinufc on Sunday 19 January 2014, 09:08:33 AM
I bet the guy regrets leaving us and chasing the money.

I've got absolutely no sympathy for a guy who had the exact same dream as me, achieved it, then threw it away for f***ing Liverpool FC.

you know nothing ffs. silly post :crazy2:

:okay: :lol:

 :p
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Nobody on Sunday 19 January 2014, 10:06:59 AM
There's a reason we were all gutted when we sold him for £35m like, he was ridiculously good for us, absolutely unplayable. Don't want him back now though, with Mike being as stingy as he is, we can't afford an injury prone player like him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tsunami on Sunday 19 January 2014, 10:15:17 AM
Let's see what he's like if he manages to stay fit. Regardless of his lack of match fitness, it looked to me like he really didn't want to score with that chance yday, it was so casual and he didn't look at all bothered about it.  It may well be that it was just s**** technique but he swung at it like he was larking about.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 19 January 2014, 10:23:31 AM
Let's see what he's like if he manages to stay fit. Regardless of his lack of match fitness, it looked to me like he really didn't want to score with that chance yday, it was so casual and he didn't look at all bothered about it.  It may well be that it was just s**** technique but he swung at it like he was larking about.

:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 19 January 2014, 11:36:17 AM
Of all the damage Ashley has done, for some reason Carroll leaving us took away more from me and my love/support for football and the club than that prick will ever do.

I've not been the same supporter since he left, if a local lad can sell out the way he did then really there is very little future for how I always thought the game was meant to be.

It's good in a way, I don't get massively angry when we lose, but certainly don't get the same highs either. For better or worse he detached me, and even though I was livid at the time, I suppose I've got a lot to thank him for.

I'd take him back just so he can sit in front of a camera and apologise to the fans.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: David28 on Sunday 19 January 2014, 11:37:51 AM
I don't want to defend Carroll.

But it's the agents, not the players in this money world of football.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Sunday 19 January 2014, 11:39:27 AM
Of all the damage Ashley has done, for some reason Carroll leaving us took away more from me and my love/support for football and the club than that prick will ever do.

I've not been the same supporter since he left, if a local lad can sell out the way he did then really there is very little future for how I always thought the game was meant to be.

It's good in a way, I don't get massively angry when we lose, but certainly don't get the same highs either. For better or worse he detached me, and even though I was livid at the time, I suppose I've got a lot to thank him for.

I'd take him back just so he can sit in front of a camera and apologise to the fans.

That's one reason I'm glad these decisions are made by cool headed business minds rather than fans. Ashley's lumbered us with a s*** manager but I've got no complaints about his recruitment decisions.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: DebuchyAndTheBeast on Sunday 19 January 2014, 11:53:59 AM
There's a reason we were all gutted when we sold him for £35m like, he was ridiculously good for us, absolutely unplayable. Don't want him back now though, with Mike being as stingy as he is, we can't afford an injury prone player like him.

When Cisse was banging them in last season how many fans thought he was ridiculously good? Fates and opinions change really quick in football  :lol: . He was decent for us and I was genuinely worried when we sold him because we didn't have a decent replacement (his price tag did soften the blow though).
As for his world class abilities, I remember watching England vs Italy (friendly?) and the Italians handled him really well. They rarely sat deep like us in the second half and pushed their defensive line up the the pitch. Also they just let Carroll jump for every ball but as soon as he hit the ground he was always surrounded by 2 defenders. The Italians realised they would never be able to win any aerial battles against him but they knew he had a s*** touch and couldn't bring other players into play. Moreover to finish off their brilliant defensive plan, they closed down our wingers really well.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:57:00 PM
Carroll is all that's wrong with English football. Could you imagine a Carroll getting a game for a Spain or Holland? Players like Carroll should be lucky they are playing in the PL let alone international football. Just a battering ram who will throw a few elbows and power a few headers and shots in now and then. Of course he's better than Shols but the fact people are putting them in the same sentence sums up the standard Carroll is at.

Never rated him, don't miss him and certainly don't want him back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Sunday 19 January 2014, 01:58:30 PM
There's a reason we were all gutted when we sold him for £35m like, he was ridiculously good for us, absolutely unplayable. Don't want him back now though, with Mike being as stingy as he is, we can't afford an injury prone player like him.

When Cisse was banging them in last season how many fans thought he was ridiculously good? Fates and opinions change really quick in football  :lol: . He was decent for us and I was genuinely worried when we sold him because we didn't have a decent replacement (his price tag did soften the blow though).
As for his world class abilities, I remember watching England vs Italy (friendly?) and the Italians handled him really well. They rarely sat deep like us in the second half and pushed their defensive line up the the pitch. Also they just let Carroll jump for every ball but as soon as he hit the ground he was always surrounded by 2 defenders. The Italians realised they would never be able to win any aerial battles against him but they knew he had a s*** touch and couldn't bring other players into play. Moreover to finish off their brilliant defensive plan, they closed down our wingers really well.

:thup:

If the long ball and big strikers were the way forward England would have won at least one major tournament since 1966.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:00:33 PM
Carroll is all that's wrong with English football. Could you imagine a Carroll getting a game for a Spain or Holland? Players like Carroll should be lucky they are playing in the PL let alone international football. Just a battering ram who will throw a few elbows and power a few headers and shots in now and then. Of course he's better than Shols but the fact people are putting them in the same sentence sums up the standard Carroll is at.

Never rated him, don't miss him and certainly don't want him back.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ah man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:09:07 PM
Ahhh the love him for him and excuses for his shitness when he's played us is unbearable by some fans. Probably the same f***ers who greeted Joey Barton's return at Harper's testimonial like he was the king of kings!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:33:41 PM
What?

You claimed that Andy Carroll was "all that's wrong with English football" and then backed this up with the hilarious notion of a "Carroll type" playing for Spain or Holland.

Like there's anything actually wrong with playing a battering ram man, especially when he has the ability to score ~ 1 in 2 :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:36:49 PM
Fernando Llorente.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: triggs on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:38:54 PM
What?

You claimed that Andy Carroll was "all that's wrong with English football" and then backed this up with the hilarious notion of a "Carroll type" playing for Spain or Holland.

Like there's anything actually wrong with playing a battering ram man, especially when he has the ability to score ~ 1 in 2 :lol:
Anybody who scored 1 in 2 over an extended period of time is obviously more than just a battering ram
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:45:30 PM
Carroll has the ability to score 1 in 2?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:50:18 PM
I think a fully fit Andy Caroll has the ability to score around about 1 in 2, aye. Maybe not with consistency but he could definitely get 15+ in a season. 

His injuries are his problem, not his ability.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:56:48 PM
He's 25 now, how long is this extended period? :lol:

He was a 1 in 2 striker that time he scored once in two games but other than that...  :undecided:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Sunday 19 January 2014, 02:57:56 PM
Carroll a 1 in 2 goalscorer?  Haha.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:04:31 PM
It's laughable how bad some people are on this forum for mistranslating posts like. He has the ability to score ~ 1 in 2 is not equal to "Carroll is a 1 in 2 goalscorer."

He'll not finish his career with a 1 in 2 record but he can certainly get 15 goals in a season (if fit).
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:06:14 PM
Saying he has the ability to score around 1 in 2 is such a vague statement.  I imagine lots of strikers have the ability to score around 1 in 2.  It basically means nothing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:06:17 PM
It's laughable how bad some people are on this forum for mistranslating posts like. He has the ability to score ~ 1 in 2 is not equal to "Carroll is a 1 in 2 goalscorer."

He'll not finish his career with a 1 in 2 record but he can certainly get 15 goals in a season.

I definitely can't disagree with this.

In regards to Carroll consistently getting 15 goals a season I really can't see him starting 30.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:06:20 PM
I was criticised on here for praising Adebayor, now if you want a big man, he's got the attributes in his locker that you want rather than being just a big bully. Carroll couldn't lace his boots.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Hmmm.  I am not sure where I could take those 4 months as a snapshot for measuring his ability. By this standard Cisse is a 1 in 1 striker too.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:16:15 PM
I was criticised on here for praising Adebayor, now if you want a big man, he's got the attributes in his locker that you want rather than being just a big bully. Carroll couldn't lace his boots.
got the talent but his attitude stinks to high heaven much prefer to sign Carroll over him
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:17:24 PM
I was criticised on here for praising Adebayor, now if you want a big man, he's got the attributes in his locker that you want rather than being just a big bully. Carroll couldn't lace his boots.
got the talent but his attitude stinks to high heaven much prefer to sign Carroll over him

Because Carroll lives the role model professional footballer lifestyle? Or maybe not...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:17:59 PM
I was criticised on here for praising Adebayor, now if you want a big man, he's got the attributes in his locker that you want rather than being just a big bully. Carroll couldn't lace his boots.
got the talent but his attitude stinks to high heaven much prefer to sign Carroll over him

Because Carroll lives the role model professional footballer lifestyle? Or maybe not...
Carroll will actually try all the time, Adebayor tries when he's looking for his next payday
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Robster on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:19:12 PM
Call me a naive and sentimental fool, but I loved having a Geordie No 9 smashing them in for us.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 19 January 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Would have neither, Gomis has a huge head so I would rather see he pans out as a battering ram.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 19 January 2014, 04:09:53 PM
We should all just agree that he's an alright striker, not mint, not s****, and move onto arguing about Pardew again.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Heron on Sunday 19 January 2014, 04:11:05 PM
Loves the toon.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dave on Sunday 19 January 2014, 04:31:49 PM
Call me a naive and sentimental fool, but I loved having a Geordie No 9 smashing them in for us.

Same. As TT pointed out though, it's depressing that you can't even rely on a local lad staying these days, whether he's forced out or whatever. Can't stand Liverpool but I look at Gerrard and wonder if we'll ever have that again; a top class player staying and performing for years despite not winning all that much. Doubt it. Shearer was the last.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Robster on Sunday 19 January 2014, 06:56:30 PM
Same. As TT pointed out though, it's depressing that you can't even rely on a local lad staying these days, whether he's forced out or whatever. Can't stand Liverpool but I look at Gerrard and wonder if we'll ever have that again; a top class player staying and performing for years despite not winning all that much. Doubt it. Shearer was the last.
:sadnod:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Lenny on Sunday 19 January 2014, 07:27:28 PM
To be fair, Carroll is still young enough to both come back and stay with us for a long time and also return to his form whilst he was with us, so you never know.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Sunday 19 January 2014, 11:29:49 PM
Carroll can f*** off
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sixx on Monday 20 January 2014, 12:12:37 AM
Call me a naive and sentimental fool, but I loved having a Geordie No 9 smashing them in for us.
Same here. Say if West Ham go down this season, and if there is any justice in this world they will, I'd take him back in a heartbeat. For a nominal fee of course. I for one genuinely believe he was forced out of the club against his will and as someone mentioned above, supporting NUFC hasn't been the same since he left. It kind of proved once and for all that everything is for sale and there is absolutely no integrity or loyalty left in football.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 20 January 2014, 06:20:56 AM
I can't hate Carroll, was great when he was with us and eventually his move financed a large chunk of our current squad.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Monday 20 January 2014, 07:33:42 AM
I think people didn't hate him until his pathetic dive and attempt to get Krul dismissed. Up til then there was much love for him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Monday 20 January 2014, 10:25:24 AM
Didn't think that chance he missed was as easy as people were saying at the time. Wrong-foot volley with only a split second to react.

You would consider yourself very unlucky if he spanked that in the net.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Monday 20 January 2014, 10:32:36 AM
Aye, much more easier to fall over.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Disco on Monday 20 January 2014, 11:15:45 AM
Didn't think that chance he missed was as easy as people were saying at the time. Wrong-foot volley with only a split second to react.

You would consider yourself very unlucky if he spanked that in the net.

Didn't need to leather it though, an angled foot to direct it would probably have done enough to direct it in or failing that just passing it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Monday 20 January 2014, 11:19:49 AM
Didn't think that chance he missed was as easy as people were saying at the time. Wrong-foot volley with only a split second to react.

You would consider yourself very unlucky if he spanked that in the net.

Didn't need to leather it though, an angled foot to direct it would probably have done enough to direct it in or failing that just passing it.

The lack of composure was criminal.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ian W on Monday 20 January 2014, 11:25:18 AM
Don't get me wrong, it's possible to score, but I still think it's a medium to difficult chance.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bimpy474 on Monday 20 January 2014, 11:30:05 AM
Well i love Brett's excellent sense of perspective.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Monday 20 January 2014, 12:40:13 PM
:lol:

The ball came at him and he's just snatched at it. Hasn't shown any composure in the slightest, just took a wild swing at it. I'd be saying the same thing if it was Remy, not just because it was Carroll and i already think he's average at best.

The best excuse he can use is that he hasn't had much game time and could still consider himself 'rusty'. All the bullshit about deliberately missing because it was against us and he didn't want to score is laughable. It was an excellent chance, not a sitter but an excellent chance and he blew it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Skeletor on Monday 20 January 2014, 12:42:52 PM
The technique was that of a clearance not a shot.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: George Bailey on Monday 20 January 2014, 12:43:47 PM
Not a fan of his beard.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 20 January 2014, 02:02:41 PM
With that chance. He, for whatever reason, felt the need to hit it as hard as he could. Anything other than that and it's a goal.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: alexf on Monday 20 January 2014, 02:48:55 PM
maybe he's just s*** with his right foot.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Monday 20 January 2014, 02:56:10 PM
I can't hate Carroll, was great when he was with us and eventually his move financed a large chunk of our current squad.

:thup:

He did great for us and we got a fantastic deal when he went. I don't see any need to hate him whatsoever, I'm sure the years he spent as Newcastle no 9 were the highlight of his career.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ujpest doza on Monday 20 January 2014, 05:00:47 PM
maybe he's just s*** with his right foot.
He is s*** with his right foot and it had ballooned up a bit off Krul 1st as well.

The most shocking miss was Carlton Coles.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LucaAltieri on Monday 31 March 2014, 11:19:49 PM
Beautiful man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Karjala on Monday 31 March 2014, 11:21:43 PM
He shoots, he scores, he breaks peoples jaws...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 31 March 2014, 11:32:49 PM
Some boy.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: tollemache on Monday 31 March 2014, 11:35:58 PM
I love watching Carroll go for headers. Such a beast
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:14:19 AM
You can go back to the injury room now son.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:15:15 AM
Nah. Need him for fantasy points.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:39:13 AM
2 years ago I'd have said we'd outgrown him & Nolan, I'd have them both here in a flash at the minute.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 10:54:05 AM

2 years ago I'd have said we'd outgrown him & Nolan, I'd have them both here in a flash at the minute.

Regression for you.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 10:59:11 AM
2 years ago I'd have said we'd outgrown him & Nolan, I'd have them both here in a flash at the minute.

 :pardsbeard:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 11:00:37 AM
Carroll provides more aerial presence and threat than our entire backline combined. We're crying out for a player like him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 11:53:32 AM
Take him back ASAP
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 12:37:39 PM
Was that his first goal against the mackems?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:03:01 PM
Was that his first goal against the mackems?

Aye
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: matta on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:11:48 PM
Carroll provides more aerial presence and threat than our entire backline combined. We're crying out for a player like him.

In fact, why not him. Would give us some much needed heart back. Still think he is great.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:14:00 PM
Can get 3/1 for Carroll to be in the WC squad. Can see he's a player Hodgson would like and if he stays fit and puts more performances in like last night, 3/1 will be long gone in a few weeks time.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Flip on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:14:30 PM
I'd have him back. I'd splash all the cash in the world (that Mike has, probably a maximum of £20m) on him and Remy.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:15:16 PM
I didn't think he was great last night tbh.

Really needs to stay fit now, and keep working on the runs he makes, as well as his controlling of the ball.

Looked quite clumsy a lot of the time, yesterday.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:15:39 PM
I'd have him back. I'd splash all the cash in the world (that Mike has, probably a maximum of £20m) on him and Remy.

Add at least one winger capable of a decent cross and we'd be laughing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:16:25 PM
I didn't think he was great last night tbh.

Really needs to stay fit now, and keep working on the runs he makes, as well as his controlling of the ball.

Looked quite clumsy a lot of the time, yesterday.

Thought he was man of the match myself, like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:16:59 PM
I'd have him back based on ability alone, been put off by his fitness issues since leaving us though.  Reckon he'd spend far too much time injured.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BrettNUFC on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:17:08 PM
Although didn't show all the game this morning, just extended highlights.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:20:00 PM
Nowhere near the same player he used to be at our place. Remember him ending up in a 1v1 with O'Shea last night, but instead of taking him on he waited for Downing.

A few years back he would've left O'Shea for dead.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:55:26 PM
West Ham spent around £15m on Andy Carroll at the start of this season. I wouldn't want NUFC to pay anything like that for Andy Carroll. For one thing his fitness record is not good.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 01:56:14 PM
I didn't think he was great last night tbh.

Winning the game with a goal and an assist not enough for you then.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Elliottman on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 02:02:14 PM
Nowhere near the same player he used to be at our place. Remember him ending up in a 1v1 with O'Shea last night, but instead of taking him on he waited for Downing.

A few years back he would've left O'Shea for dead.

Really?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 02:03:40 PM
No.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 02:04:03 PM
Nowhere near the same player he used to be at our place. Remember him ending up in a 1v1 with O'Shea last night, but instead of taking him on he waited for Downing.

A few years back he would've left O'Shea for dead.

Really?

Yeah, I think so.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 02:05:30 PM
He's only mobile once he gets going, from a slow/standing start he's slow as owt.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 02:08:15 PM
He's only mobile once he gets going, from a slow/standing start he's slow as owt.

Always been the case.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 05:44:10 PM
West Ham spent around £15m on Andy Carroll at the start of this season. I wouldn't want NUFC to pay anything like that for Andy Carroll. For one thing his fitness record is not good.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:08:01 PM
I can't remember him ever skinning a defender like. The odd time when the guy has been off balance maybe.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:15:04 PM
I can't remember him ever skinning a defender like. The odd time when the guy has been off balance maybe.

(http://i1.thejournal.co.uk/incoming/article4317883.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/titus-bramble-image-2-741864967-4317883.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:26:09 PM
West Ham spent around £15m on Andy Carroll at the start of this season. I wouldn't want NUFC to pay anything like that for Andy Carroll. For one thing his fitness record is not good.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:29:11 PM
:thup:

I'd rather we just keep spending £0 on nobody.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:31:48 PM
:thup:

I'd rather we just keep spending £0 on nobody.

Hmm.

The arguments about our frugality don't need scrutiny here I don't think. I'm glad we didn't spend £15m on Carroll, like. He's a decent player and a crock. Plus he f***ed off to Liverpool for money, the b******. He gets a pardon for last night, mind.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:35:04 PM
Apologies York, I had my little rod out.

I really like Carroll but I tend to agree, he's been nothing like value for money since joining them.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:36:36 PM
:anguish: I'm such a radgey little minnow.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:57:51 PM
Carroll will grow into himself physically, the injuries will clear up and he'll be banging them in again.

Now would be a great time to sign him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:58:52 PM
What's that based on though?  Could just as easily go the way of Duncan Ferguson, can see the similarities myself.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 06:59:31 PM
Apologies York, I had my little rod out.

I really like Carroll but I tend to agree, he's been nothing like value for money since joining them.

He has in the games he played. Cba to look but I'd reckon their with/without record is a lot better with him in.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 07:00:54 PM
Clearly v injury prone, whether or not that has anything to do with how he looks after himself is up for debate.

He's 25 now so I'm not sure how he's going to grow into himself like
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Atticus on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 07:01:11 PM
Apologies York, I had my little rod out.

I really like Carroll but I tend to agree, he's been nothing like value for money since joining them.

He has in the games he played. Cba to look but I'd reckon their with/without record is a lot better with him in.

:thup: Think I would have been happy to spend £15m on him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: r0cafella on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 07:04:19 PM
Nothing to suggest his injury record will improve to be fair.

If anything since leaving us he's become worse in regards to injury's
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 07:05:12 PM
Clearly v injury prone, whether or not that has anything to do with how he looks after himself is up for debate.

He's 25 now so I'm not sure how he's going to grow into himself like

Was going to say the same, he's hardly a kid.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 07:24:30 PM
What's that based on though?  Could just as easily go the way of Duncan Ferguson, can see the similarities myself.

Totally agree and called it as soon as he picked up the injury for Liverpool.

His heel injury (picked up at West Ham) could have been a career finisher if he didn't have top drawer help.

I know a guy who was a very good semi-pro player and he ended his career with that injury just 3 years ago.

Apparently (so he reckons) it can go again with too much weight applied to the heel (i.e: landing off balance) and is more widely known in basketball circles.

My feeling is he'll suffer injuries throughout his career a la DF.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 07:58:52 PM
Man that first season back up when he got that hattrick against Villa. Then the domination from him & Shola against Sunderland.

Fun times, he was really flying for us. Big shame he took the decision he did.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:02:20 PM
I'm still not overly sold on him, physically he is a beast and can dominate any defender but the technical side of his game isn't the greatest not to mention his injuries and lifestyle.

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:05:42 PM
I'm still not overly sold on him, physically he is a beast and can dominate any defender but the technical side of his game isn't the greatest not to mention his injuries and lifestyle.



The technical side of his game's not the greatest says Gouffran's no.1 fan.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:11:08 PM
I'm still not overly sold on him, physically he is a beast and can dominate any defender but the technical side of his game isn't the greatest not to mention his injuries and lifestyle.



The technical side of his game's not the greatest says Gouffran's no.1 fan.

Continue..
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hughesy on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:13:49 PM
I'm still not overly sold on him, physically he is a beast and can dominate any defender but the technical side of his game isn't the greatest not to mention his injuries and lifestyle.



Fully agree.  His technique just isn't good enough.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:16:04 PM
If we are going to persist with Bassett Pardew then surely it would make sense to give him the target man he so clearly needs and of that kind of player,  there is no better than Andy Carroll in this country anyhow.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:30:01 PM
If we are going to persist with Bassett Pardew then surely it would make sense to give him the target man he so clearly needs and of that kind of player,  there is no better than Andy Carroll in this country anyhow.

The sort of money it would take to get Carroll (wages and fee) we could probably get Remy who would be a lot better signing imo.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:32:26 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:33:54 PM
Think he's more than good enough technically, given what else he offers.

Attitude, price tag and durability are my concerns.

If we could get him cheapish he's more than good enough for our level of "ambition", issues aside.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:36:42 PM
Think he's more than good enough technically, given what else he offers.

Attitude, price tag and durability are my concerns.

If we could get him cheapish he's more than good enough for our level of "ambition", issues aside.

Carroll's attitude on the pitch has never been a concern.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: George Bailey on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:38:17 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.
:lol:
 O0
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:39:15 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.

We're talking about the lad who f***ed off at the first chance :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: George Bailey on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:44:15 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.

We're talking about the lad who f***ed off at the first chance :lol:

Did he 'f*** off' or was he pushed?

Mind you having seen what Ashley is like at first hand and close up I'd have wanted to 'f*** off' too.
Moot point really. We wont be spending this type of money in the near future anyway.

Loanees, swaps or frees all the way.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 08:47:55 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.

We're talking about the lad who f***ed off at the first chance :lol:

Did he 'f*** off' or was he pushed?

Mind you having seen what Ashley is like at first hand and close up I'd have wanted to 'f*** off' too.
Moot point really. We wont be spending this type of money in the near future anyway.

Loanees, swaps or frees all the way.

If he didn't want to leave he wouldn't have but I really can't be arsed to get into this debate again :lol: Lets just say he didn't seem overly gutted.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:13:54 PM
I'm sure Carroll didn't think twice about leaving, can't blame him in retrospect either.

His stock has plummeted since then though, of course he'd be back in a flash if he had the chance.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mike on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:15:03 PM
Would love him back if he could stay healthy.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:28:01 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.

We're talking about the lad who f***ed off at the first chance :lol:

Did he 'f*** off' or was he pushed?

Mind you having seen what Ashley is like at first hand and close up I'd have wanted to 'f*** off' too.
Moot point really. We wont be spending this type of money in the near future anyway.

Loanees, swaps or frees all the way.

If he didn't want to leave he wouldn't have but I really can't be arsed to get into this debate again :lol: Lets just say he didn't seem overly gutted.
Here man, he was bound, gagged and bundled into Mike's helicopter. The poor b****** was FORCED to sign the contract of his life.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:30:31 PM
Sticking around where you're emphatically told you're not wanted always works out well.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:33:53 PM
Sticking around where you're emphatically told you're not wanted always works out well.

He'd just signed a 5.5 year contract worth over £10m, what were the club going to do? Stick their best forward in the reserves and let him run the contract down? :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:39:59 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.

We're talking about the lad who f***ed off at the first chance :lol:

Whether that's accurate or not, it's irrelevant because we both know who'd far rather be up front for us next season.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:49:13 PM
Sticking around where you're emphatically told you're not wanted always works out well.

He'd just signed a 5.5 year contract worth over £10m, what were the club going to do? Stick their best forward in the reserves and let him run the contract down? :lol:

f*** knas with that lot, they were mad-keen to get their 35 million quid and everything we know about them implies they're a nasty, horrible set of c***s.

Not saying he didn't do well out of it, money-wise.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:49:43 PM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.

We're talking about the lad who f***ed off at the first chance :lol:

Whether that's accurate or not, it's irrelevant because we both know who'd far rather be up front for us next season.

Do we? If we match Carroll's wages then he probably would prefer to play for us. Carroll would need to prove his fitness to be worth those wages though which he hasn't got time to do.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:50:50 PM
Sticking around where you're emphatically told you're not wanted always works out well.

He'd just signed a 5.5 year contract worth over £10m, what were the club going to do? Stick their best forward in the reserves and let him run the contract down? :lol:

f*** knas with that lot, they were mad-keen to get their 35 million quid and everything we know about them implies they're a nasty, horrible set of c***s.

Not saying he didn't do well out of it, money-wise.

I have no doubt Ashley spunked for a week solid when that offer came in but Carroll had a choice.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:51:20 PM
Carroll wanted to leave imo, remember he does have a winners medal on his C.V.  More than what he would had got staying at NUFC.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 09:53:05 PM
Sticking around where you're emphatically told you're not wanted always works out well.

He'd just signed a 5.5 year contract worth over £10m, what were the club going to do? Stick their best forward in the reserves and let him run the contract down? :lol:

f*** knas with that lot, they were mad-keen to get their 35 million quid and everything we know about them implies they're a nasty, horrible set of c***s.

Not saying he didn't do well out of it, money-wise.

I have no doubt Ashley spunked for a week solid when that offer came in but Carroll had a choice.

If my employer told me to f*** off and I also had a better offer I'd f*** off.  They're arseholes, they could have made life difficult for him.  Plus he's thick as f***.

Anyway, like you said earlier on, the debate's been had a million times before.  Every year that goes by under Ashley's leadership makes me lean more towards departing players and less towards the club though.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 1 April 2014, 10:17:48 PM
Liverpool fans happy West Ham won because they are safe and have nothing to play for. Me thinks Carroll might want a go at Liverpool.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 12:33:00 AM
Remy not wanting to play for us is the key difference.

We're talking about the lad who f***ed off at the first chance :lol:

Whether that's accurate or not, it's irrelevant because we both know who'd far rather be up front for us next season.

Do we? If we match Carroll's wages then he probably would prefer to play for us. Carroll would need to prove his fitness to be worth those wages though which he hasn't got time to do.

Even if he proved his fitness he still wouldn't be worth the wages he's on there.  Remy on the other hand would be IMO.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 12:54:16 AM
I'd have him back for what he is on the pitch, but you cannit sign a player who's so rarely on the pitch.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 02:16:01 AM
A fit Carroll can be absolutely deadly.  Shearer, Les, Drogba, CRonaldo.. there's not that many strikers that you could say has the potential to match them in the air but he is one.

His aerial ability alone would earn us more points than Shola has in his entire career.

I don't know what it is about the long haired freak, but I can't help but feel happy when he's doing well, even after he tried to con us playing for Pool.  Remember begrudgingly grinning like a cheshire when he scored at Wembley for England.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 02:24:22 AM
A fit Carroll can be absolutely deadly.  Shearer, Les, Drogba, CRonaldo.. there's not that many strikers that you could say has the potential to match them in the air but he is one.

His aerial ability alone would earn us more points than Shola has in his entire career.

I don't know what it is about the long haired freak, but I can't help but feel happy when he's doing well, even after he tried to con us playing for Pool.  Remember begrudgingly grinning like a cheshire when he scored at Wembley for England.

I'm absolutley convinced he hasn't once tried to score a goal against us b/c he clearly doesn't want to.

I know he's a bit of a partier, but everything I've heard is that he's a cracking lad. I do get a rush of pride seeing him bully defenders man - the way he attacks headers is a work of art as well.

Still bit p*ssed Nolan and Carroll are gone - esp Nolan. Top leader man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Nixon on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 03:59:00 AM
A fit Carroll can be absolutely deadly.  Shearer, Les, Drogba, CRonaldo.. there's not that many strikers that you could say has the potential to match them in the air but he is one.

His aerial ability alone would earn us more points than Shola has in his entire career.

I don't know what it is about the long haired freak, but I can't help but feel happy when he's doing well, even after he tried to con us playing for Pool.  Remember begrudgingly grinning like a cheshire when he scored at Wembley for England.
It's because deep down, he's still ours.

Remember the animosity festering inside of our fan base when he joined Liverpool? It was all for Mike Ashley and his bloody helicopter!  :ticked off:

There's an old song that goes: "There's three sides to every story, yours, mine, and the cold hard truth."

We'll never truly know whether he forced the move through or if Ashley and Derek Llambias did everything conceivable to facilitate it and whore him to Liverpool. The populist view is the latter because no one really likes Ashley and Carroll, for all his misdemeanours, gave us a clutch of fantastic memories -- the Championship, Villa 6-0, Sunderland 5-1. The fact he's never worked anywhere else cultivates this romantic idea that he's due to comeback home, just like Alan Shearer (albeit in a move convoluted way).

My issue is, you have to look at as a business decision, just like Llambias did. He's 24, and he'll realistically always cost upwards of £10million because he's semi-talented, English, and has a unique skill set. I don't think he's worth that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The Bard of Byker on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 04:04:23 AM
Apologies York, I had my little rod out.

I really like Carroll but I tend to agree, he's been nothing like value for money since joining them.

He has in the games he played. Cba to look but I'd reckon their with/without record is a lot better with him in.

(http://totalfootballmadness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Hatem-Ben-Arfa-1.jpg)

Not a bad nickname for the lad. Sometimes.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 06:12:43 AM
Apologies York, I had my little rod out.

I really like Carroll but I tend to agree, he's been nothing like value for money since joining them.

He has in the games he played. Cba to look but I'd reckon their with/without record is a lot better with him in.

(http://totalfootballmadness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Hatem-Ben-Arfa-1.jpg)

Not a bad nickname for the lad. Sometimes.

(http://forums.wpcentral.com/attachments/nokia-lumia-icon/57427d1379642727t-lucille-bluth-eye-roll-arrested-development-gif.gif)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 08:46:04 AM
A fit Carroll can be absolutely deadly.  Shearer, Les, Drogba, CRonaldo.. there's not that many strikers that you could say has the potential to match them in the air but he is one.

His aerial ability alone would earn us more points than Shola has in his entire career.

I don't know what it is about the long haired freak, but I can't help but feel happy when he's doing well, even after he tried to con us playing for Pool.  Remember begrudgingly grinning like a cheshire when he scored at Wembley for England.

I'm absolutley convinced he hasn't once tried to score a goal against us b/c he clearly doesn't want to.

I know he's a bit of a partier, but everything I've heard is that he's a cracking lad. I do get a rush of pride seeing him bully defenders man - the way he attacks headers is a work of art as well.

Still bit p*ssed Nolan and Carroll are gone - esp Nolan. Top leader man.

I would have had a lot more respect for him if he scored and just didn't celebrate like a dick. He tried to get a player sent off and they probably still would have scored if the ref fell for it.

If he really didn't want to score he should have just pretended to try and smash it in an hoof it way over the bar/wide.

He chose the worst option possible and knew exactly what he was doing. That'll never sit right with me.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 09:47:21 AM
Carroll with our delivery out wide?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 09:57:11 AM
The more I've learnt about Ashley, Pardew and Llambias, the less anger I've felt towards Carroll. I don't think he pushed for the move at all, and therefore I don't hold any grudge against him.

I have to say, him playing for us and his rise during 2010 was probably one of the best things I've experienced with NUFC in the past decade. I'd have him back in a flash as I think he's one of the few people who could inject some f***ing meaning into this hollowness.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 10:39:20 AM
I seem to remember us rejecting a £30m bid then him putting in a transfer request. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 11:27:10 AM
I seem to remember us rejecting a £30m bid then him putting in a transfer request. :dontknow:

That was what was reported at the time.

Doesn't fit too well with drunk Llambias' recollection

“We had the control. We knew the Torres deal was there. We drew that f****** deal, perhaps the ultimate,” explained Llambias.

“So £30m? F*** off! Don’t waste my time and I slammed the phone down. £35m? Everybody including Pardew all agreed.”
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 11:28:24 AM
Sticking around where you're emphatically told you're not wanted always works out well.

Get out of town. :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 11:29:43 AM
I still can't believe we sold him for 35 f***ing million :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 11:52:34 AM
I still can't believe we sold him for 35 f***ing million :lol:

Starting to wonder I'd this didn't turn out to be one of the worst things that could have happened. Disregard the money, forget what you think of his ability. Doesn't it feel like they've just been chasing this high over and over again? All we seem to do now is bring in players we can potentially flip.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 12:08:40 PM
A fit Carroll can be absolutely deadly.  Shearer, Les, Drogba, CRonaldo.. there's not that many strikers that you could say has the potential to match them in the air but he is one.

I think he's better in the air than all of them, personally.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 12:49:53 PM
Sticking around where you're emphatically told you're not wanted always works out well.

Get out of town. :lol:

:lol: They told him to f*** off, didn't they?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sixx on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 02:09:43 PM
Carroll's sale measures up disappointment wise with us being relegated, for me. Finally seeing a really talented player coming through the ranks, and that a nr. 9 of all things, just to see him leave for a club I despise so much on the last transfer day was a massive kick in the nuts and should have confirmed to all that there is something fundamentally wrong with this regime. The transfer fee was of course ridiculous but making him leave on the last day without a replacement was insane and an insult to fans. No one knows if Carroll could have at least justified some of his transfer fee if he'd escape massive injuries in the past couple of years but Ashley and Pardew got lucky and Carroll's injuries "rationalized" the sale over time.

For a sensible amount of money and if he's been injury free over a sustained period of time, I'd have him back in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 02:15:50 PM
For a normal club, though, £35m for Andy Carroll is basically unrejectable, it's stupid money.  When I say a normal club I of course mean one which isn't owned by a sovereign state like Southampton and one which will re-invest the money in players.

For us we might as well have kept him, we need a decent forward more than a big wedge of cash.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 02:18:20 PM
For a normal club, though, £35m for Andy Carroll is basically unrejectable, it's stupid money.  When I say a normal club I of course mean one which isn't owned by a sovereign state like Southampton and one which will re-invest the money in players.

For us we might as well have kept him, we need a decent forward more than a big wedge of cash.


We could have bought him back and still had a big pile of money.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 04:11:08 PM
A fit Carroll can be absolutely deadly.  Shearer, Les, Drogba, CRonaldo.. there's not that many strikers that you could say has the potential to match them in the air but he is one.

I think he's better in the air than all of them, personally.
Fantastic at the leap/run up... but Shearer at least was able to score more types of headers.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: n4e on Wednesday 2 April 2014, 04:35:08 PM
 
A fit Carroll can be absolutely deadly.  Shearer, Les, Drogba, CRonaldo.. there's not that many strikers that you could say has the potential to match them in the air but he is one.

His aerial ability alone would earn us more points than Shola has in his entire career.

I don't know what it is about the long haired freak, but I can't help but feel happy when he's doing well, even after he tried to con us playing for Pool.  Remember begrudgingly grinning like a cheshire when he scored at Wembley for England.

I'm absolutley convinced he hasn't once tried to score a goal against us b/c he clearly doesn't want to.

I know he's a bit of a partier, but everything I've heard is that he's a cracking lad. I do get a rush of pride seeing him bully defenders man - the way he attacks headers is a work of art as well.

Still bit p*ssed Nolan and Carroll are gone - esp Nolan. Top leader man.

I would have had a lot more respect for him if he scored and just didn't celebrate like a dick. He tried to get a player sent off and they probably still would have scored if the ref fell for it.

If he really didn't want to score he should have just pretended to try and smash it in an hoof it way over the bar/wide.

He chose the worst option possible and knew exactly what he was doing. That'll never sit right with me.

:thup: Cracked me up when Shane Long done both against WBA the other week mind. Refused to celebrate when he scored out of respect but was happy enough to take a dive and cheat against them later in the game  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 6 April 2014, 04:13:59 PM
Only 13 mins in and easily the best player of the pitch so far. Never seen so much football in the air mind.  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: littlelunchbox on Sunday 6 April 2014, 05:06:59 PM
Pardew would quite literally w*** himself to death every night if he had a player like AC back in his team.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: palnese on Sunday 6 April 2014, 05:07:21 PM
So would I.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: littlelunchbox on Sunday 6 April 2014, 05:08:11 PM
fair enough  :penis:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Leazes1986 on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 05:59:06 PM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jack Flash on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 06:05:13 PM
It'll be a beautiful day when the people who want Carroll back finally give up and admit he's worth nothing and hasn't been for years.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 06:07:16 PM
£50m plus in two transfers man. Even in the over-inflated English young player market that's just stupid.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 06:22:11 PM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.
Why is it a shame?

Pisshead footballer who s*** on his hometown club at the first opportunity possible.

Beggars belief how people still fawn over Carroll.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 06:23:13 PM
He's got a major injury again?!

Man, that's messed up. This guy is done.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: toontownman on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 06:25:58 PM
Too bad, but saves us from any potential panic buying. Hope he returns to proper full and extended fitness but it's looking grim at this stage, not just physically but mentally right now he most. We on the brink.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Leazes1986 on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 06:29:02 PM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.
Why is it a shame?

Pisshead footballer who s*** on his hometown club at the first opportunity possible.

Beggars belief how people still fawn over Carroll.

The club wanted him out just as much as he wanted to make the move, probably more. I am not bitter or angry about it, I just liked him as a player and don't have any bad feelings about him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 09:04:02 PM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.

Yeah but ankle in London means Mam or Dad's brother.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 09:12:01 PM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.
Why is it a shame?

Pisshead footballer who s*** on his hometown club at the first opportunity possible.

Beggars belief how people still fawn over Carroll.

Being sold for big money from a club who make it clear they want you to leave doesn't constitute shitting on anything.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: H09 on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 10:13:11 PM
Any correlation between heavy drinkers and injuries because Gazza and Bryan Robson were made of glass as well
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 10:45:43 PM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.
Why is it a shame?

Pisshead footballer who s*** on his hometown club at the first opportunity possible.

Beggars belief how people still fawn over Carroll.

Being sold for big money from a club who make it clear they want you to leave doesn't constitute shitting on anything.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 10:46:37 PM
His style of play is more to due his injuries than his life style for me, he keeps getting ankle injuries and quite frankly he wouldn't be the first big striker to suffer that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Heron on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 10:50:12 PM
The most criminal thing about the Carroll deal was that we didn't have a contingency plan. Anyone would have sold him for what we did.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 10:53:38 PM
I doubt we were counting on anyone being desperate enough to pay that mind. Didn't we reject about £25m from Spurs the day before? We ended up with Ba in the next window so worked out in the end just about.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Heron on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 11:02:07 PM
Without the sale of Carroll we probably wouldn't have seen one of the greatest comebacks of all time either, IIRC.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: midds on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 11:12:56 PM
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall on the day that deal was done. Doubt we'll ever get the real version of events but £35m changing hands and Carroll leaving/forced out. Don't think anyone could have foreseen what happened.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Belfast Mags on Wednesday 23 July 2014, 11:13:10 PM
As bad as Kieron Dyer for injuries this guy
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 24 July 2014, 12:27:58 AM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.

Yeah but ankle in London means Mam or Dad's brother.

:dog:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Thursday 24 July 2014, 01:53:25 AM
His style of play is more to due his injuries than his life style for me, he keeps getting ankle injuries and quite frankly he wouldn't be the first big striker to suffer that.

Surprised no one mentioned Duncan Ferguson yet.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: thomas on Thursday 24 July 2014, 02:12:20 AM
Rumours going around he could be out for 4 months with an ankle problem. Such a shame the way his career is going. I have heard on more than one occasion that his ankle is f***ed over the last year like.

Yeah but ankle in London means Mam or Dad's brother.

:dog:
:lol: most appropriate use of it in a while.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TheGuv on Thursday 24 July 2014, 02:43:52 PM
:lol:

Both the s*** joke and the dog made me laugh. So well done the pair of you
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:12:20 PM
Jack Sullivan ‏@jsullivanwhu 7m

VERY BAD NEW REGARDING AC, TORN LIGAMENTS IN ANKLE... OPERATION TOMORROW WITH TOP SURGEON IN USA... WILL BE PLAYING IN 4 MONTHS
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:17:47 PM
f***ing hell :lol: Guess we'll have to wait until January then...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Varadi on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:17:58 PM
Ouch. Looks like the lad's days as a top class forward are finished.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chicken little on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:21:24 PM
before they even began
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:24:28 PM
before they even began

:lol: :thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Anderson on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:31:42 PM
£35 million :mackems:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jack Flash on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:36:45 PM
He's scored 20 goals since he left us 3 and a half years ago  :lol: Much, much richer though.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: CFlan on Thursday 24 July 2014, 06:44:19 PM
Imagine having Ashleys kid tweeting nufc news :lol: Jack Sullivan seems to be following in his fathers footsteps of being an accomplished prick.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: chicken little on Thursday 24 July 2014, 08:15:38 PM
£35 million :mackems:

haha right before I posted before I was looking at page ~310 of the old thread and having a hearty chuckle at the virtues of hindsight
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tsunami on Thursday 24 July 2014, 08:24:25 PM
My info is that they have no real idea how long he'll be out for and hope to know more once he's seen the specialist. I didn't see it but apparently their new expensive midfield signing took a bit of a naughty challenge against Wellington and isn't expected to be fit for the start of the season.

Still says that it's complete bonkers behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: r0cafella on Thursday 24 July 2014, 08:24:38 PM
Maybe people will stop posting suggesting we buy this crock now.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Toon Hoser on Thursday 24 July 2014, 08:51:44 PM
Quote
@AndyTCarroll
Going under the knife tomorrow morning and absolutely devastated to be missing the start of the season!! pic.twitter.com/kTAYuF0YGB

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: LRD on Friday 25 July 2014, 01:32:52 AM
      D. Ferguson     A. Carroll
Ht       1.93m          1.93m

League appearances and goals
Age   MP   Gl            MP   Gl
20      9     1             14     3
21    38   15             39   17
22    30   12             26   13
23    10     1             35     4
24    27     8             26     7
25    18     5             15     2
26    33   10      
27    29   11      
28    20     6      
29    23     6      
30    12     6

Similar career stats.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Zero on Friday 25 July 2014, 02:11:31 AM
i call that "business fraud"
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: merlin on Friday 25 July 2014, 02:55:06 AM
I hope the club - under Pardew's requests - have not been basing the new season on being able to sign Carroll as the main striker because if so, a struggle lies ahead.
Even though the guy is out of action until December, I wouldn't put it past idiot to keep hanging his hat on Carroll returning.

Time to drop all this and get a proper goal-scorer signed and preferably, one who isn't injury prone...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: loki679 on Friday 25 July 2014, 03:42:28 AM
We don't have anyone left who'll command a decent fee to pay for a new striker.  Krul possibly but you would hope that even Pardew wouldn't want blob jelliot as his number one.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Friday 25 July 2014, 09:22:56 AM
      D. Ferguson     A. Carroll
Ht       1.93m          1.93m

League appearances and goals
Age   MP   Gl            MP   Gl
20      9     1             14     3
21    38   15             39   17
22    30   12             26   13
23    10     1             35     4
24    27     8             26     7
25    18     5             15     2
26    33   10      
27    29   11      
28    20     6      
29    23     6      
30    12     6

Similar career stats.

Think Ferguson was a lot more of an intelligent player and less of the battering ram that Caroll is.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jackie Broon on Friday 25 July 2014, 04:08:21 PM
Think Ferguson was a lot more of an intelligent player and less of the battering ram that Caroll is.

Carroll was infinitely more than just a battering ram, when he played for us. Many people, including myself, were gutted that we accepted that £35m. In hindsight it was the right decision, but in the intervening years a lot of people seem to have forgotten just how good he was back then.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: MW on Friday 25 July 2014, 04:19:12 PM
I was livid/heartbroken.

I remember being and people started saying he was off, i was in total denial saying there's no way he'd go. Gradually throughout the day it looked more and more likely. By the end of the day I lost total faith in any footballer having any ounce of loyalty
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Friday 25 July 2014, 04:23:21 PM
Think Ferguson was a lot more of an intelligent player and less of the battering ram that Caroll is.

Carroll was infinitely more than just a battering ram, when he played for us. Many people, including myself, were gutted that we accepted that £35m. In hindsight it was the right decision, but in the intervening years a lot of people seem to have forgotten just how good he was back then.

He wasn't as intelligent as Ferguson when it came to holding up the ball and laying it off for people. The amount of times he would just head the ball into nowhere was quite high.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 25 July 2014, 04:26:24 PM
He was undoubtedly good but half his magical year was in the best team by some distance in the Championship and he got dropped for Shola because he was doing so badly at one point in the PL.

I wouldn't have sold him fwiw. No point at all in doing so when he'd have kept us up comfortably and we'd have had a real figurehead for the next 10+ years.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: r0cafella on Friday 25 July 2014, 04:27:58 PM
He was undoubtedly good but half his magical year was in the best team by some distance in the Championship and he got dropped for Shola because he was doing so badly at one point in the PL.

I wouldn't have sold him fwiw. No point at all in doing so when he'd have kept us up comfortably and we'd have had a real figurehead for the next 10+ years.
Given how much of a crock he is we did the right thing selling him despite it not appearing to be the correct decision at the time.

The real issue is how poorly we handled reinvesting the money into the team.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 25 July 2014, 04:45:23 PM
I wasn't dissappointed at all. £35m? Bloody brilliant. He never struck me as having 35m potential.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Friday 25 July 2014, 04:52:35 PM
I was really disappointed at the time. A Geordie number 9, sold to Liverpool. It was gutting.

With hindsight, what a deal but the money received has been drip feed back into the club, so what was the point?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Teasy on Friday 25 July 2014, 05:15:33 PM
I was really disappointed at the time. A Geordie number 9, sold to Liverpool. It was gutting.

With hindsight, what a deal but the money received has been drip feed back into the club, so what was the point?

Well had we kept him we'd currently have a total waster on the payroll and minus £35m worth of the current squad, I mean considering they only seem to spend what we bring in from player sales.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Haz on Friday 25 July 2014, 05:16:37 PM
I think we only saw the Carroll money in dribbles.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Friday 25 July 2014, 05:24:30 PM

I think we only saw the Carroll money in dribbles.

It's only recently been spent.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Big Geordie on Friday 25 July 2014, 05:47:31 PM
Was thinking about the Ferugson parallel yesterday. Carroll has talent, but seems beset by bad luck. I think we'll see him back here at some point, but it'll be on a last year of his contract/free jpb.

Is he as big a p*ss-head that seems to be being suggested?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 25 July 2014, 05:53:19 PM
Is he as big a p*ss-head that seems to be being suggested?

http://metro.co.uk/2011/02/23/andy-carroll-and-kenny-dalglish-enjoy-night-out-at-boyzone-concert-640547/

Yes.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Tooj on Friday 25 July 2014, 06:00:30 PM
Was thinking about the Ferugson parallel yesterday. Carroll has talent, but seems beset by bad luck. I think we'll see him back here at some point, but it'll be on a last year of his contract/free jpb.

Is he as big a p*ss-head that seems to be being suggested?

Hardly when you consider his attitude to treating his body like an elite athlete should.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Friday 25 July 2014, 06:10:25 PM
Was thinking about the Ferugson parallel yesterday. Carroll has talent, but seems beset by bad luck. I think we'll see him back here at some point, but it'll be on a last year of his contract/free jpb.

Is he as big a p*ss-head that seems to be being suggested?

Hardly when you consider his attitude to treating his body like an elite athlete should.

Unlike hatem.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 25 July 2014, 10:34:30 PM
Fwiw the £35m was never about the player's worth or potential to me. It was that there was a price on something we all considered priceless-a local lad playing out of his skin as a Newcastle number 9. That was what it was valued at and it felt and still feels cheap.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 25 July 2014, 10:37:27 PM
I was really disappointed at the time. A Geordie number 9, sold to Liverpool. It was gutting.

With hindsight, what a deal but the money received has been drip feed back into the club, so what was the point?

Well had we kept him we'd currently have a total waster on the payroll

Bit simplistic.  How do you know that would have happened?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jack Flash on Friday 25 July 2014, 10:46:06 PM
Fwiw the £35m was never about the player's worth or potential to me. It was that there was a price on something we all considered priceless-a local lad playing out of his skin as a Newcastle number 9. That was what it was valued at and it felt and still feels cheap.

Aye, that's basically why I wouldn't have sold him. It would have been far more fun to gamble on Carroll being our main man for ages.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 25 July 2014, 10:53:58 PM
But with some of the money we got Ba (sold at £7m profit :fwap:), Cabaye (sold at £15m profit :fwap:), Santon (has stagnated but we might get our money back one day :fwap:), Marveaux (now out on loan, not paying him any wages :fwap:).  And, erm, Obertan and Cisse.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Friday 25 July 2014, 11:02:34 PM
Think Ferguson was a lot more of an intelligent player and less of the battering ram that Caroll is.

Carroll was infinitely more than just a battering ram, when he played for us. Many people, including myself, were gutted that we accepted that £35m. In hindsight it was the right decision, but in the intervening years a lot of people seem to have forgotten just how good he was back then.

He wasn't as intelligent as Ferguson when it came to holding up the ball and laying it off for people. The amount of times he would just head the ball into nowhere was quite high.
Neither was Ferguson at 22 or 23 tbf. That would've come with experience.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Pilko on Friday 25 July 2014, 11:14:35 PM
He was undoubtedly good but half his magical year was in the best team by some distance in the Championship and he got dropped for Shola because he was doing so badly at one point in the PL.

Aye, people forget that Shola played and he was 'rested' for the Man City away game where Ben Arfa was done by De Jong.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Teasy on Saturday 26 July 2014, 09:57:52 AM
I was really disappointed at the time. A Geordie number 9, sold to Liverpool. It was gutting.

With hindsight, what a deal but the money received has been drip feed back into the club, so what was the point?

Well had we kept him we'd currently have a total waster on the payroll

Bit simplistic.  How do you know that would have happened?

Can't be 100% certain but I can only go on what I've seen, its not as if he didn't have injuries before Liverpool/West Ham either.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Saturday 26 July 2014, 10:12:04 AM
Wasn't ferguson in prison at this point in his career for nutting that Dundee United player?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 26 July 2014, 06:09:46 PM
Probably get him on a free when he leaves West Ham. Can't see us spending much wedge on a permacrock.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 20 September 2014, 11:13:18 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-keeping-tabs-former-striker-4297046
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Jack Flash on Saturday 20 September 2014, 11:14:44 PM
:anguish: When will this die?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 20 September 2014, 11:16:16 PM
Ashley probably bunged Crater Face a few quid to publish that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 20 September 2014, 11:17:04 PM
:anguish: When will this die?

He must be 75 now, like. Can't be too long.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 21 September 2014, 11:36:00 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Big Geordie on Sunday 21 September 2014, 12:12:21 PM
Rubbish story leaked by the club.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BlueStar on Sunday 21 September 2014, 12:15:05 PM
Haven't heard of him getting into a pagger in a nightclub for a while, would it be good for him to come back up here even if he had the option?  Unless we have great medical staff which will help with his injury problems, but every other aspect of the club is s*** so I imagine we'll just tell him to call NHS Direct anyway.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Wallace on Sunday 21 September 2014, 12:19:23 PM
I get the impression he is settled in London now.  I don't know how often he comes back but you never hear about him in Newcastle these days.  When he was at Liverpool, he always seemed to coming back.

I think the fans have well and truly moved on from Carroll now but the club (being so in touch with the fans) seem to think that dangling a Carroll returning home story will appease them when I really don't think anyone cares anymore.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Sunday 21 September 2014, 12:44:31 PM
Rubbish story leaked by the club.
doubt it was leaked by the club more likely to just be from the voices in olivers head.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: r0cafella on Sunday 21 September 2014, 01:04:52 PM
Isn't he injured.... Again.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Sunday 2 November 2014, 01:08:36 PM
Who would have thought he would have a blossoming modelling career :lol:

(https://kayneandabel.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/isabeli-fontana-joan-smalls-natasha-poly-raquel-zimmermann-suvi-koponen-by-mikael-jansson-for-alexander-wang-for-hm-fall-winter-2014-2015-5.jpg?w=604)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ketsbaia on Sunday 2 November 2014, 01:51:06 PM
Such a wang-ker
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Paully on Friday 28 November 2014, 06:30:19 AM
Andy Carroll transfer back to Newcastle from West Ham IS on the radar admits Toon boss Pardew

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/andy-carroll-transfer-back-newcastle-4708352
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yaron on Friday 28 November 2014, 09:10:54 AM
what did he do in the last 4 years apart from being injured that we want to sign him back...........
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Newintoon on Friday 28 November 2014, 09:29:45 AM
what did he do in the last 4 years apart from being injured that we want to sign him back...........

Williamsons not getting in the team when everyone's fit need a new diagonal free kick target
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ste on Friday 28 November 2014, 09:58:58 AM
Nice bit of tapping up by the King. He needs to realise that not every manager welcomes it like he does.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Friday 28 November 2014, 10:30:13 AM

what did he do in the last 4 years apart from being injured that we want to sign him back...........

Be from the North East. Fans love a local...
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Klaus on Friday 28 November 2014, 10:30:23 AM
We get linked with this c*** every transfer window, he has done very little since he left and will still cost 10m+ imo.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: loki679 on Friday 28 November 2014, 10:40:08 AM

what did he do in the last 4 years apart from being injured that we want to sign him back...........

Be from the North East. Fans love a local...

No, fans hate locals remember.  Check the Dummett thread.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: STM on Friday 28 November 2014, 10:42:24 AM
We will just wait until his contract is running down. Fairly sure Pardew and Carroll get on well and keep in touch.

A fully fit Carroll would be class but so would a unicorn.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Friday 28 November 2014, 10:45:33 AM
We will just wait until his contract is running down. Fairly sure Pardew and Carroll get on well and keep in touch.

A fully fit Carroll would be class but so would a unicorn.
A unicorn would pop the ball every time he headed it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Teasy on Friday 28 November 2014, 01:25:21 PM
Aye but he could just keep the ball stuck on the end of his horn and gallop into the net!  Any tackle on the ball would be a high foot and any other tackle a pen.  Really coming round to this unicorn idea!!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: joeyt on Friday 28 November 2014, 01:30:15 PM
How many times did he play under Pardew here? Can't have been many appearances
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 November 2014, 01:34:59 PM
How many times did he play under Pardew here? Can't have been many appearances

He was injured for the whole of january.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HawK on Friday 28 November 2014, 01:46:33 PM
How many times did he play under Pardew here? Can't have been many appearances

He was injured for the whole of january. his Premier League career.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Pilko on Friday 28 November 2014, 01:50:44 PM
Pardew's first game was Liverpool on 6th Dec(?) and Carroll's last appearance for us was Spurs away on the 28th Dec(?) so the answer is 4, 5, maybe 6 times. Those dates aren't exactly right but they're thereabouts.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: mattypnufc on Friday 28 November 2014, 02:02:44 PM
Ahh this time of year again coming up.

Zzzzzz
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Wallace on Friday 28 November 2014, 02:09:28 PM
Pardew's first game was Liverpool on 6th Dec(?) and Carroll's last appearance for us was Spurs away on the 28th Dec(?) so the answer is 4, 5, maybe 6 times. Those dates aren't exactly right but they're thereabouts.

3 games - Liverpool (11/12), Man City (26/12) & Spurs (28/12).  I think there may have been a postponed game between Liverpool & City - maybe Birmingham (A).
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Friday 28 November 2014, 03:28:11 PM
Is he playing tomorrow? Would have been a good test for the Dummett and Willo partnership up against Carroll and Enners. If they came through that then you could look at them as a reliable CB pairing, but I reckon they'd be destroyed.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Paully on Saturday 13 December 2014, 10:47:05 AM
https://vimeo.com/114418572 (https://vimeo.com/114418572)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Paully on Friday 13 February 2015, 12:19:53 PM
Out for two months - he's had no luck with injuries at all.

Since he left us, this is his league goals record  :kasper:

2 (half season), 4, 7, 2, 5
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Friday 13 February 2015, 12:22:04 PM
This guy isn't worth having man. Absolutely shocking fitness record.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Klaus on Friday 13 February 2015, 12:30:39 PM
If it is true about his lifestyle (big drinker etc) that cannot have helped his constant injury problems. Good player on his day as well, class goal against Swansea this season.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sempuki on Friday 13 February 2015, 12:54:29 PM
Out for two months - he's had no luck with injuries at all.

Since he left us, this is his league goals record  :kasper:

2 (half season), 4, 7, 2, 5
Shocking.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 13 February 2015, 01:34:58 PM
Think he strung together a record 10 games or something a few weeks ago in a row.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 13 February 2015, 01:42:04 PM
If it is true about his lifestyle (big drinker etc) that cannot have helped his constant injury problems. Good player on his day as well, class goal against Swansea this season.

Sounds similar to Woody in that regard.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Friday 13 February 2015, 01:43:39 PM
It's a shame because his game actually looks to be coming along when he does play. He does seem to be improving as a footballer.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 13 February 2015, 02:27:31 PM
Missing the rest of the season now. Having surgery
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 13 February 2015, 03:55:13 PM
£15 million :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Paully on Friday 13 February 2015, 04:06:25 PM
20 league goals since he left us in January 2011

Transfer fees of £50 million

Wages of £80,000 per week

Meaning he's cost £3.33 million per goal and that is obviously constantly rising right up until August!

Jesus!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: n4e on Friday 13 February 2015, 04:24:41 PM
 :lol: And yet every transfer window there's always a few saying we should be back in for him.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: KaKa on Friday 13 February 2015, 04:57:19 PM
Man, that's a really bad investment.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 13 February 2015, 05:00:10 PM
feel bad for him, not nice to see a career fall apart due to injury
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 14 February 2015, 12:55:02 AM
I love watching him so it's a shame. Love watching him batter defenders.
Title: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ryan on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:46:16 AM
I love watching him so it's a shame. Love watching him batter defenders.

Same :thup:

Gutted how it's all turned out for him since he left (was forced from) us.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 14 February 2015, 08:29:50 AM
I love watching him so it's a shame. Love watching him batter defenders.

Same :thup:

Gutted how it's all turned out for him since he left (was forced from) us.
Get a grip.

He took the money at the first available opportunity.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 14 February 2015, 08:36:37 AM
Yep, f*** him. He was a Geordie number 9 playing for Newcastle and thought there was something better, which, as a Geordie (ish) Newcastle fan, I can't understand. I don't mind being pellets for harbouring that opinion. I wish it had gone differently, but it went the way it went and I harbour no sympathy for the comparatively forgettable career he's having. Not that he can help being injured all the time.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: U2 on Saturday 14 February 2015, 08:37:46 AM
Yep, f*** him. He was a Geordie number 9 playing for Newcastle and thought there was something better

People still believe this?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 14 February 2015, 09:04:28 AM
More to the point, what's Geordie(ish)?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 14 February 2015, 09:13:24 AM
Yep, f*** him. He was a Geordie number 9 playing for Newcastle and thought there was something better, which, as a Geordie (ish) Newcastle fan, I can't understand. I don't mind being pellets for harbouring that opinion. I wish it had gone differently, but it went the way it went and I harbour no sympathy for the comparatively forgettable career he's having. Not that he can help being injured all the time.

He'd have been pretty f***ing stupid to turn down what LFC offered wage wise. Geordie No. 9 or not.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 14 February 2015, 09:41:00 AM
Yep, f*** him. He was a Geordie number 9 playing for Newcastle and thought there was something better

People still believe this?

Exactly. Admit that I was the same but too much has happened since with other players saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Unbelievable! on Saturday 14 February 2015, 09:46:57 AM
Yep, f*** him. He was a Geordie number 9 playing for Newcastle and thought there was something better

People still believe this?

Exactly. Admit that I was the same but too much has happened since with other players saying the same thing.

:thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 14 February 2015, 09:50:48 AM
I don't think he's 100% blameless for leaving TBH but it is the reality of football.

Feel sorry for anyone who is constantly injured, must be a nightmare. I don't known if his lifestyle is a factor but he seems like a fairly genuine lad overall and I'd rather see him play than not.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 14 February 2015, 10:10:28 AM
I'm not in the business of championing our transfer policy - ins or outs - but I've not seen sufficient evidence to conclude that he was forced into handing in a transfer request. He and the club both chased the money.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 14 February 2015, 03:08:14 PM
I'm not in the business of championing our transfer policy - ins or outs - but I've not seen sufficient evidence to conclude that he was forced into handing in a transfer request. He and the club both chased the money.
He's said that he was. Lambias has also been quoted as telling the story in a completely different way as to what was presented at the time. Then there's the way that Barton and Santon's transfers have been revealed. Sure there are others that don't come to mind at the moment. I think Carroll was either naive or talked into it, but I don't believe for a second that it was him pushing for a move, not now anyway.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: cubaricho on Saturday 14 February 2015, 06:44:44 PM
The truth is definitely somewhere in between. Of course he wanted the money/prestige. But the club isn't blameless either. Both parties are to "blame" in this situation. It was a situation that benefited everyone involved.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 14 February 2015, 06:54:34 PM
It was horrible at the time, but in retrospect it was a great deal for us
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 14 February 2015, 06:57:59 PM
He wanted to leave and the club were happy to cash in on him for such a mental fee.

I just find the notion that poor Andy was forced into signing that 90 grand a week contract at Liverpool utterly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:02:57 PM
Carroll was told they wanted the money far more than him. I'd have left, too.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Spudil on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:05:54 PM
Carroll was told they wanted the money far more than him. I'd have left, too.

:thup:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:12:35 PM
Again I just don't see how you can be forced to put in a transfer request.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:26:37 PM
Can remember them Llambias quotes, "Liverpool were late with a payment, and Moik charged 'em £xk fackin' interest!" like it was something for us to hang our hat on. :anguish:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:30:58 PM
I bet they had a right laugh at that. £35m for an injured striker out of form and they were charged interest on top.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:33:39 PM
Out of form? He was excellent in that first half season back.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: r0cafella on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:35:23 PM
Can remember them Llambias quotes, "Liverpool were late with a payment, and Moik charged 'em £xk fackin' interest!" like it was something for us to hang our hat on. :anguish:

f***ing hell, is that true?  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:38:23 PM
Yeah, he wasn't out of form at all although I'm sure we'll soon hear otherwise.

Biggest example of a 12 month purple patch turning into a huge transfer that there is.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: r0cafella on Saturday 14 February 2015, 07:39:29 PM
Yeah, he wasn't out of form at all although I'm sure we'll soon hear otherwise.

Biggest example of a 12 month purple patch turning into a huge transfer that there is.

Aka Modern football in a nutshell
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 14 February 2015, 09:48:54 PM
Yeah, he wasn't out of form at all although I'm sure we'll soon hear otherwise.

Biggest example of a 12 month purple patch turning into a huge transfer that there is.

At the time the fee was about right. He was an unstoppable force leaving on deadline day with a huge premium. Take away his injuries and he'd be one of the best goal scorers in the league. However  in hindsight he's a wreck, did we see that coming? No idea, if we did then we kudos, if not we got very lucky.

Both the club and the player took the best offer going, tbh it left me heart broken either would act like that. That transfer was probably the beginning of the end of my time as a real supporter of the club. It broke me, more so than Cole to manure.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 14 February 2015, 10:05:01 PM
Wasn't he injured when he signed, not out of form ?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Saturday 14 February 2015, 10:12:51 PM
I honestly don't believe even without the injuries that the way he was playing was sustainable. There has many strikers who have had a good 20 or so games then fallen off the face of the planet.

I don't think there's anything to suggest he would have been one of the best goalscorers in the league, hell during that period he had 10 in 19 not exactly amazing. There was many other things that stood out.

That's not say that I think he would basically been another Michu or whatever, far from it actually but that level of general performance would have dropped quite a bit in my view even if he'd still played at a very high level.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: John Carvery on Saturday 14 February 2015, 10:15:35 PM
Can remember them Llambias quotes, "Liverpool were late with a payment, and Moik charged 'em £xk fackin' interest!" like it was something for us to hang our hat on. :anguish:

moik

 :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: John Carvery on Saturday 14 February 2015, 10:17:20 PM
Yeah, he wasn't out of form at all although I'm sure we'll soon hear otherwise.

Biggest example of a 12 month purple patch turning into a huge transfer that there is.

At the time the fee was about right. He was an unstoppable force leaving on deadline day with a huge premium. Take away his injuries and he'd be one of the best goal scorers in the league. However  in hindsight he's a wreck, did we see that coming? No idea, if we did then we kudos, if not we got very lucky.

Both the club and the player took the best offer going, tbh it left me heart broken either would act like that. That transfer was probably the beginning of the end of my time as a real supporter of the club. It broke me, more so than Cole to manure.

On the other hand he only had 6 months premier league experience iirc and was a bit of a toad off the field. I would have thought 20 would be a fair value.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 14 February 2015, 10:19:22 PM
Wasn't he injured when he signed, not out of form ?

Injured iirc, didnt make his debut for a while.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Saturday 14 February 2015, 10:26:28 PM
A big part of his fee was the Torres deal.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 15 February 2015, 12:10:52 AM
Out of form? He was excellent in that first half season back.

He was never 'in form' as a Liverpool player. Which is pretty obviously when payment was missed. :lol:

People on here can be f***ing dense at times, like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 15 February 2015, 12:45:25 AM
I'm gonna f***ing deck you one of these days.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 15 February 2015, 12:57:00 AM
Take a lot more than you and your gang of bandits to do that, York.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:32:50 PM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/18/12de533a70319ba79d50321bdcbd0015.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:36:00 PM
f***ing hell, that looks like a serious op for a relatively young bloke to go through.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:37:23 PM
Why staples and not stitches? /Uneducated in medical matters.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Wonder if i could get his knee in me slow cooker, some canny meat on that.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:42:09 PM
Wonder if i could get his knee in me slow cooker, some canny meat on that.

Hahgay.gif
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:42:14 PM
It's a shitter seeing anyones career go south because of injuries, but injuries or not, I'd never want him back here. Whilst he might be a bit of a refreshing throwback of a player to watch, he's clearly a massive c***, which people seem to forget based upon him being from Newcastle and canny at football.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:44:01 PM
It's a shitter seeing anyones career go south because of injuries, but injuries or not, I'd never want him back here. Whilst he might be a bit of a refreshing throwback of a player to watch, he's clearly a massive c***, which people seem to forget based upon him being from Newcastle and canny at football.

I don't remember any issues at all with him whilst he was banging them in in the Championship and before he left.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:47:31 PM
:lol: Very selective memory then I guess, given he broke Saylor's jaw when we were in the Championship.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:48:07 PM
Oh, and he glassed someone that season too.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:48:16 PM
+ :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:49:20 PM
Wasn't he charged with hitting his lass too? Meaning he literally had to live with Kevin Nolan :lol:

Or was that for something else?

EDIT: Ah the glassing, aye. Pretty sure there was something about domestic violence at some point though.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:49:35 PM
:lol: Very selective memory then I guess, given he broke Saylor's jaw when we were in the Championship.

I dunno, sounds like a hero to me.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:49:54 PM
Wasn't he charged with hitting his lass too? Meaning he literally had to live with Kevin Nolan :lol:

Or was that for something else?

EDIT: Ah the glassing, aye. Pretty sure there was something about domestic violence at some point though.

Wiki says that was at the start of the following season, aye.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:51:34 PM
:lol: Very selective memory then I guess, given he broke Saylor's jaw when we were in the Championship.
you know I had completely forgotten about that incident. And Hughtons denial of the obvious considering he played the next game with bandages on his hands didn't he?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:52:57 PM
Carroll's a decent lad who's acted like a c*** at times.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 02:53:10 PM
:lol: Very selective memory then I guess, given he broke Saylor's jaw when we were in the Championship.
you know I had completely forgotten about that incident. And Hughtons denial of the obvious considering he played the next game with bandages on his hands didn't he?

Ah no mate, he didn't have his hands bandaged during a match, he was photographed with his hands bandaged at a 50 cent concert. :lol:

I told you man, reprehensible human being.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Wallace on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 03:55:47 PM
But have there been any incidents since he left?  I can't recall any so maybe he has learnt from his previous mistakes.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 04:02:42 PM
:lol: Very selective memory then I guess, given he broke Saylor's jaw when we were in the Championship.

Deserved tbh, regardless of what it was over. Disappointed it hasn't happened again since.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 04:05:43 PM
But have there been any incidents since he left?  I can't recall any so maybe he has learnt from his previous mistakes.


No idea, but a night club glassing, breaking a colleagues jaw, and beating up your missus is more than adequate fodder for me to decide that he's a c***, and I've no interest dealing with his type at NUFC. No matter where he was born.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 04:05:46 PM
Breaking Steven Taylor's jaw is something that augments his rep imo, we've all dreamed of doing the same. Wasn't it because he'd slept with Carroll's ex as well?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 04:10:59 PM
hopefully just because he's a dopey t***
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 05:45:16 PM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/18/12de533a70319ba79d50321bdcbd0015.jpg)

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/f/fd/Nelson_Loves_Andy_Williams.PNG)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 06:04:05 PM
Forget whether he's a good bloke or not, I'd not want him back because he's a crock.

His career will be over by 30.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: STM on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 06:32:47 PM
Another potentially great player ruined by injury/attitude.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 06:45:22 PM
It's just too good to be true.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: toontownman on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 07:39:37 PM
On trial with mls clubs and turned away within the next 3 years.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 07:54:03 PM
Contracted 'til June 2019.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 08:22:27 PM
Contracted 'til June 2019.
100k a week I think as well? :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Gorilla on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 09:32:10 PM
Breaking Steven Taylor's jaw is something that augments his rep imo, we've all dreamed of doing the same. Wasn't it because he'd slept with Carroll's ex as well?
I think Taylor was shagging the mother of Carrola kid or some bollocka and was taking the p*ss out of him about it.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 10:53:04 PM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/18/12de533a70319ba79d50321bdcbd0015.jpg)

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/f/fd/Nelson_Loves_Andy_Williams.PNG)

Did nobody get this reference? :(  I stole this for nothing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 18 February 2015, 11:00:20 PM
I did. The Andy Williams concert.

It wasn't that funny, mind.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 19 February 2015, 02:00:51 AM
Har har.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: EthiGeordie on Thursday 19 February 2015, 05:58:19 AM
Another master stroke and great achievement to floke this over rated geordie for 35 million. Yet no one give credit for Mike for doing what is the right thing.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 19 February 2015, 07:29:43 AM
The right thing is selling our best players and keeping the money for himself?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: STM on Thursday 19 February 2015, 07:34:15 AM
It was the correct decision, for all the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 19 February 2015, 08:06:56 PM
And with no measurable positive consequences. 
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Chris_R on Friday 20 February 2015, 11:04:25 AM
Indeed. It doesn't matter if all our players leave for £35m each or instead go on Bosmans.

Either way, Fat Mike will invest the bare minimum necessary to finish 10th next year. The money we receive is irrelevant, it only determines how much profit he makes.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Paully on Thursday 2 April 2015, 05:52:29 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/ex-nufc-star-andy-carroll-gets-8967784
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: TBG on Thursday 2 April 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Guarantee he'll square up to it when p*ssed
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Yorkie on Friday 3 April 2015, 08:28:57 AM
Looks live-size in that pic.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 3 April 2015, 01:12:41 PM
Guarantee he'll square up to it when p*ssed

Ha. 'f*** are yee lukin at m8?'
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: Toon Hoser on Sunday 19 July 2015, 05:17:35 PM
Carroll still dead (until October now).

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-striker-andy-carroll-out-until-october-after-latest-injury-setback-10399768.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 19 July 2015, 05:18:28 PM
What a crock he is
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: r0cafella on Sunday 19 July 2015, 05:50:51 PM
What a crock he is
To think some posters advocate us resigning him :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: plenum on Monday 20 July 2015, 10:58:32 PM
f*** off you diving cheating soulless CNUT. Will never forgive ac for that dive against us while he was at L'pool.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: triggs on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:01:45 PM
f*** off you diving cheating soulless CNUT. Will never forgive ac for that dive against us while he was at L'pool.
It was quite noble of him IMO, had an open goal to shoot into and dived to the ground instead
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: plenum on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:18:58 PM
f*** off you diving cheating soulless CNUT. Will never forgive ac for that dive against us while he was at L'pool.
It was quite noble of him IMO, had an open goal to shoot into and dived to the ground instead

I guess you're being ironic, but the fact that he actually seeks the penalty by dragging his leg makes me sick!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Tiresias on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:20:11 PM
I'd probably loath him too if he got away with it, but it was so comical. He's just an idiot, not one of these 'sort of an idiot but clever football brain' or 'we call an idiot to make ourselves feel better about our own idiocy' but rather a genuine bonafide not many brain cells there.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:24:31 PM
f*** off you diving cheating soulless CNUT. Will never forgive ac for that dive against us while he was at L'pool.
It was quite noble of him IMO, had an open goal to shoot into and dived to the ground instead

I guess you're being ironic, but the fact that he actually seeks the penalty by dragging his leg makes me sick!

:thup: I only just finished hoying up on Saturday after doing it for about 3 weeks solid, presume it'll resume again soon as the lapses only ever last a few days.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:39:41 PM
22 goals for us in 2010.

25 goals in five years since he left us.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:51:20 PM
Changes nowt like, we shouldn't have sold him and I was gutted when we sold him. Injuries vindicate nothing because when he's not injured he's still mint. It was a ridiculous deal and we've been lucky to an extent in terms of how things have turned out for him, but we're still s*** and they essentially sold a small part of why we'd the scenario - a very good, local Newcastle number 9 who looked like he would become mint. We sold at that point, not at the point when he became an injury.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:56:13 PM
I wasn't making any kind of a point, really, it's just a bit of a crazy stat. I'm definitely over it now but I was gutted when he left, no doubt. We didn't need to sell him and seeing a local lad - who was doing fantastically well - getting binned was very galling. I had images of him leading the line for a decade.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 12:02:37 AM
He was incredible for those 12 months before he was sold, it was a crazy upward trajectory and I thought he was a potential world-beater we shouldn't sell at any price.

I find it hard to believe the injury issues he's had aren't connected to his apparently questionable lifestyle off the pitch, thought the same about Kieron Dyer when he was here.

It's a shame because he had it all, I always make the Duncan Ferguson comparison because I think it's apt.  Was a s*** move for him that appeared a good move for us since we ended up getting the likes of Cabaye, Ba and Santon with the spare cash for fees and wages but I still wish we'd managed to keep him.

Like most on here, my idea of a geordie lad showing promise and leading the line for us in his prime died that day and it was f***ing disheartening.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 08:32:51 AM
Changes nowt like, we shouldn't have sold him and I was gutted when we sold him. Injuries vindicate nothing because when he's not injured he's still mint. It was a ridiculous deal and we've been lucky to an extent in terms of how things have turned out for him, but we're still s*** and they essentially sold a small part of why we'd the scenario - a very good, local Newcastle number 9 who looked like he would become mint. We sold at that point, not at the point when he became an injury.
We sold him when he was injured. ;)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Wallsendmag on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 08:39:13 AM
He was incredible for those 12 months before he was sold, it was a crazy upward trajectory and I thought he was a potential world-beater we shouldn't sell at any price.

I find it hard to believe the injury issues he's had aren't connected to his apparently questionable lifestyle off the pitch, thought the same about Kieron Dyer when he was here.

It's a shame because he had it all, I always make the Duncan Ferguson comparison because I think it's apt.  Was a s*** move for him that appeared a good move for us since we ended up getting the likes of Cabaye, Ba and Santon with the spare cash for fees and wages but I still wish we'd managed to keep him.

Like most on here, my idea of a geordie lad showing promise and leading the line for us in his prime died that day and it was f***ing disheartening.

Tbf for the combined fees we paid for Ba, Cabaye and Santon we could have bought them and kept Carroll. Bringing in them needn't have been a result of selling him. I hate Ashley but can understand why he was happy to take £35m for Carroll. Just a shame he trousered the lot instead of reinvesting it back in the team.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 09:03:19 AM
He was incredible for those 12 months before he was sold, it was a crazy upward trajectory and I thought he was a potential world-beater we shouldn't sell at any price.

I find it hard to believe the injury issues he's had aren't connected to his apparently questionable lifestyle off the pitch, thought the same about Kieron Dyer when he was here.

It's a shame because he had it all, I always make the Duncan Ferguson comparison because I think it's apt.  Was a s*** move for him that appeared a good move for us since we ended up getting the likes of Cabaye, Ba and Santon with the spare cash for fees and wages but I still wish we'd managed to keep him.

Like most on here, my idea of a geordie lad showing promise and leading the line for us in his prime died that day and it was f***ing disheartening.

Good post!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Sho'Time on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 11:20:35 AM
I don't really have any beef with him. I'm still absolutely adamant he was forced out of the club against his will by Llambias and while with hindsight it's proven to be a fantastic bit of business (for Ashley), he's never done anything that's made me hate him at all.

That 'dive' incident was a bit strange but he quite clearly opted to take the dive rather than score a guarenteed goal against his club and to me it's almost similar to what Chopra did when he was playing for us against the mackems when he completely purposely overhit that ball when he had a clear shot on goal.

Our fans are odd man, we have a pop at a lot of our local lads - Carroll, Saylor, Colback - because of different reasons but the fact is when they've played for the club no matter what their limitations they've never given less than 100% when they've put on the black and white shirt.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 11:33:32 AM
22 goals for us in 2010.

25 goals in five years since he left us.


£2M a goal in transfer fees plus what ever wages he is on.  What a joke.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Cunning_Linguist on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 01:36:31 PM
It's Tragic Really, I was gutted when he left us (forced or not), Thought he / we could go on to great things but its quite the opposite, I think we did good out of it, but can't help wondering if his injury record would have different if he had stayed.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 06:35:39 PM
He needs to have a good season otherwise I think West Ham will give up on him completely.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 06:37:15 PM
f*** off you diving cheating soulless CNUT. Will never forgive ac for that dive against us while he was at L'pool.
It was quite noble of him IMO, had an open goal to shoot into and dived to the ground instead

I guess you're being ironic, but the fact that he actually seeks the penalty by dragging his leg makes me sick!

:thup: I only just finished hoying up on Saturday after doing it for about 3 weeks solid, presume it'll resume again soon as the lapses only ever last a few days.

:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 22 July 2015, 08:02:43 PM
People who still like him but hate Taylor 😅
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 22 July 2015, 08:23:27 PM
What?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 22 July 2015, 08:25:32 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Chrisjraby on Thursday 1 October 2015, 06:42:53 PM
SSN just said Andy Carroll has injured himself putting on his trainers... :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 1 October 2015, 08:12:54 PM
SSN just said Andy Carroll has injured himself putting on his trainers... :lol:
:lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 1 October 2015, 08:33:48 PM
Hamstring?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: BONTEMPI on Thursday 1 October 2015, 08:35:40 PM
Hamstring?

And Shoestring
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Si on Thursday 1 October 2015, 08:36:23 PM
Nike Power Laces.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Marmoset on Thursday 1 October 2015, 10:05:50 PM
Clogged an artery. Brogue his foot. Etc.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: Jill on Thursday 1 October 2015, 10:10:33 PM
Poor sole.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until October
Post by: KaKa on Friday 2 October 2015, 12:37:34 AM
This guy man  :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until [insert future date]
Post by: BeloEmre on Wednesday 18 November 2015, 07:45:03 PM
Wanted by Big Sam according to Goal :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until [insert future date]
Post by: Elliottman on Wednesday 18 November 2015, 07:50:55 PM
Wanted by Big Sam according to Goal :lol:

nah, he slated him in his book didn't he.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until [insert future date]
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 18 November 2015, 07:53:13 PM
"According to goal" :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until [insert future date]
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 18 November 2015, 07:57:19 PM
Banjo string
Title: Re: Andy Carroll ruled out until [insert future date]
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 18 November 2015, 08:41:01 PM
The author is called "Harry Sherlock".... Still probably a better journalist than Lee Ryder.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 16 November 2017, 02:59:52 PM
His new son is called Wolf. Poor bugger.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 16 November 2017, 03:15:33 PM
Wolf Nine Carroll :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: HTT on Thursday 16 November 2017, 04:04:45 PM
Proves just how intellectually dumb he is!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 16 November 2017, 04:13:13 PM
Wolf Nine could be someone from Metal Gear Solid, were it not followed up by f***ing "Carroll"
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 16 November 2017, 04:13:15 PM
Beckham goes Harper Seven, Carroll goes Wolf Nine. Makes sense, the f***ing moron.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Decky on Thursday 16 November 2017, 04:16:02 PM
I should be illegal to condemn your child to having such a s*** name.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 16 November 2017, 04:17:06 PM
Beckham goes Harper Seven, Carroll goes Wolf Nine. Makes sense, the f***ing moron.
I look forward to welcoming Apple Twenty-Three Ameobi into the world.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 16 November 2017, 04:33:11 PM
Clearly named him after this f***ing legend:

(http://fair.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/CNN-SitRoom.png)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 16 November 2017, 06:17:45 PM
(http://www.gladiatorstv.com/gladiators/classic-itv/wolf/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 16 November 2017, 06:21:31 PM
Apparently it was supposed to be Wilf but a misunderstanding at the London registry office.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 16 November 2017, 06:24:37 PM
For real? :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: triggs on Thursday 16 November 2017, 06:27:00 PM
Carroll loves wolf cola
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 16 November 2017, 11:35:06 PM
Wolf >>>> Wilf
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: M4 on Friday 17 November 2017, 12:54:54 AM
Wilf... That's even worse.

Straight from the same list as Bort that one.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 17 November 2017, 12:18:37 PM
Apparently it was supposed to be Wilf but a misunderstanding at the London registry office.

For real? :lol:

Wilf... That's even worse.

Straight from the same list as Bort that one.

I wonder about you lads sometimes :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 17 November 2017, 07:31:31 PM
Wolf > Ben
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sbnufc on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 01:39:53 PM
Andy Carroll must be stopped before he does real damage... the West Ham striker leads with the arm far too often and it may lead to a life-changing clash

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5101751/Andy-Carroll-stopped-does-real-damage.html
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kimbo on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 02:20:30 PM
Does Carroll really do anything that didn't happen in every game in the 90s? Strikers would get kicked and battered and they would batter the defenders back. Fanny sport these days!
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 02:37:29 PM
Yeah, he elbows players directly in the face. That was a red card in the '90s and probably earlier.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 02:38:45 PM
Soft southern c***s.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kimbo on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 02:45:06 PM
I think it's an exaggeration that he always does it anyway, I don't think he does it any more than Fellaini always has, and our hero wasn't exactly innocent. Anyway I'm not in favour of elbowing, but the lack of physical play between defenders and forwards is a problem IMO, even less and we're getting close to netball.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 02:51:57 PM
He's done it four times really badly in his last two appearances like. I agree that he hasn't always been like that, but I commented in the other games thread during the West Ham Watford match about him going full on radge recently.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 03:13:21 PM
Didn't Shearer do the same thing? Seem to remember a pretty bad one against Charlton... Suppose it comes down to intent or perceived intent though. Tough call to make for refs, but I think 'dangerous play' without harmful intent is taken more seriously in the last 5 years or so that it was previously. I'd like to think Carroll isn't going round purposefully elbowing players in the face like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 03:40:59 PM
I don't think he's doing that, but he's very much leading with his arm which is the same thing by the modern laws of the game IF you catch someone. Carroll's caught a few players recently and when you see them they're pretty indefensible like.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 10:53:12 PM
Remarkable that as well as nearly taking someone's head off every time he plays, he's still never been as good as he was for us anywhere else.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: madras on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 11:00:49 PM
Remarkable that as well as nearly taking someone's head off every time he plays, he's still never been as good as he was for us anywhere else.
Cabaye, Enrique, Given, Bassong, Sissoko......and a good few more.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Figures 1-0 Football on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 11:05:24 PM
Cant believe he’s not in prison like, it’s disgusting.

Hopefully the game will be completely sterilised soon so that players cant tackle or head the ball.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 11:10:08 PM
Cant believe he’s not in prison like, it’s disgusting.

Hopefully the game will be completely sterilised soon so that players cant tackle or head the ball.
Aye, players should just be allowed throw elbows wherever they want. You must be a fanny if you don't want your nose broken
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Sho'Time on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 11:27:58 PM
Cant believe he’s not in prison like, it’s disgusting.

Hopefully the game will be completely sterilised soon so that players cant tackle or head the ball.
Aye, players should just be allowed throw elbows wherever they want. You must be a fanny if you don't want your nose broken

Stop being a huckle, everyone knows the Ultimate Football Championship is where you want to be. f*** the Premier League gravy train.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Figures 1-0 Football on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 11:48:47 PM
Cant believe he’s not in prison like, it’s disgusting.

Hopefully the game will be completely sterilised soon so that players cant tackle or head the ball.
Aye, players should just be allowed throw elbows wherever they want. You must be a fanny if you don't want your nose broken

Ironic that this conversation is happening when one of our total legends was famous for having flailing elbows :lol:

Carroll is a big physical lad, he’s also tall and will get a good jump. He’s using his arms and elbows for leverage and to get players out of the way, he’s not intentionally hurting anyone. He’s played like this for his entire career, yet it’s only become a problem since the Burnley game.

If he whacks someone in the face, on purpose or by accident - fine, book him or send him off. But the state of that article man.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 09:44:14 AM
When you look at all of the incidents, Carroll never breaks eyes with the ball.  He may know the opposing player is there but there's no intent to injure at all IMO. He's just hellbent on winning the ball and goes in fully committed. The thing that Carroll seems to do more than others, probably because of his superior height, is jump in at an angle and usually from a distance to win a header because he knows he can. He's rarely jumping straight up, a move that requires less balance adjustment and carries less momentum.  He's also a good deal taller than most of the players he's challenging so naturally they're more in line with his arms when he jumps.
I challenge anyone to leap sideways, forwards or backwards at an angle without using their arms for balance. You'll hit the deck almost every time and probably injure yourself.
To ask Carroll to stop doing what he's been doing recently is essentially asking him to stop challenging for so many headers - he might as well jack football in now if that's the case.

Players have always picked up head/facial injuries throughout the history of football because it's a physical contact sport where professionals put their bodies on the line. The last thing the new breed of pussy footballers need is more protection FFS, and if we sterilise the game any more than it already has been it won't be worth watching any more. We might as well watch netball.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 09:53:38 AM
I'm sorry like, but not elbowing people in the face isn't sterilising the game, Not elbowing people in the face has always been a rule while I've been watching it. Literally nothing has changed on that front.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 10:01:19 AM

If he whacks someone in the face, on purpose or by accident - fine, book him or send him off. But the state of that article man.

It's the Daily Mail...?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 10:14:15 AM
I'm sorry like, but not elbowing people in the face isn't sterilising the game, Not elbowing people in the face has always been a rule while I've been watching it. Literally nothing has changed on that front.

I'm not saying elbowing people in the face should be allowed but that Daily Mail article makes out that Carroll is doing it deliberately and that he's totally irresponsible. Bollocks! He's not doing it deliberately, he's doing his job. How quickly do you think he'd be dropped by his manager if he stopped challenging for headers?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 10:40:21 AM
I'm sorry like, but not elbowing people in the face isn't sterilising the game, Not elbowing people in the face has always been a rule while I've been watching it. Literally nothing has changed on that front.

I'm not saying elbowing people in the face should be allowed but that Daily Mail article makes out that Carroll is doing it deliberately and that he's totally irresponsible. Bollocks! He's not doing it deliberately, he's doing his job. How quickly do you think he'd be dropped by his manager if he stopped challenging for headers?
Well yeah, that Daily Mail article's something else though. Whether he's doing it deliberately or not though (I don't think he is) he needs to stop flailing his elbows around and going in forcefully at head height. Carroll's always been aggressive in the air, but he's overdone it recently. He doesn't need to stop his way of playing at all, he just needs to go back to not elbowing people in the face.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 11:16:31 AM
Wonder would people be defending it if the article was about Fellaini and not Carroll
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 11:35:02 AM
To be honest, I find myself disagreeing with anything that suggests the game should become less physical, regardless of which player is being targeted
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Figures 1-0 Football on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 01:10:35 PM
Steve, spot on :thup:

And I wouldn’t defend that article if it was about Fellaini or anyone else for that matter, it’s utter rubbish.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 02:57:25 PM
Should lock him up in prison for leading with his elbows as part of his jumping technique.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 02:59:15 PM
To be honest, I find myself disagreeing with anything that suggests the game should become less physical, regardless of which player is being targeted
Less than elbowing people in the face?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 03:09:18 PM
To be honest, I find myself disagreeing with anything that suggests the game should become less physical, regardless of which player is being targeted
Less than elbowing people in the face?

We've already established that it's not deliberate, right? IMO you take that level of commitment out of the game and it ceases to be the spectacle it is. 
If Carroll was deliberately running at people with the intention of smashing them in the face, fair enough but he's not - he does it in the process of trying to win the ball. It's no different to catching someone on the ankle with a mis-timed tackle.  Paul Scholes & Steven Gerrard didn't get this much criticism for being persistent reckless tacklers and they were probably more in danger of ruining someone's career than Carroll is.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 04:08:34 PM
That's it though, recently Carroll HAS been being reckless. I don't think there's anything wrong with how he challenges in the air in general, just with how he's gone about it recently.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 27 July 2019, 09:14:45 AM
Can totally see this happening:

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andy-carroll-newcastle-united-transfer-16654279
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 27 July 2019, 10:37:32 AM
In other circumstances I would have happily seen us bring him back. Loved watching him for that season and a half and have always felt a sadness whenever he's done things in his career since.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 27 July 2019, 11:06:17 AM
To be fair, other than his debut against City I think he’s done little. 1 in 4 since he’s left.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 27 July 2019, 11:07:01 AM
Bring him home.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Sean on Saturday 27 July 2019, 11:12:10 AM
Yeah, Bruce doesn't do tactics so could do with a big man to aimlessly lump the ball towards to help relieve the pressure during a 4-0 drubbing. Makes sense when you think of it in those terms.

This season is going to be a laugh a minute.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Nattfare on Saturday 27 July 2019, 11:18:13 AM
Considering how injury prone he is I assume Bruce would still throw him on with a walker because he won't have any other plan.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Disco on Saturday 27 July 2019, 11:21:27 AM
Bruce, Carroll and Colback. Many will be in dreamland if this happens.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: covmag on Saturday 27 July 2019, 12:28:34 PM
Come in Andy
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 27 July 2019, 12:31:36 PM
Hauled away in Ashley's helicopter in 2011, rides back into town on a Megabus in 2019
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Saturday 27 July 2019, 12:45:32 PM
Only really loved three players in my time as a fan - Shearer, HBA and Carroll.

Always thought he’d be back some day, but now it’s all meh :lol:
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: poor on Saturday 27 July 2019, 01:05:10 PM
f*** this for a game of soldiers
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: thomas on Saturday 27 July 2019, 01:07:03 PM
Has missed something like 60% of West Ham's games in the last 5 years through injury, non? :lol: Why would he ever be considered?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 27 July 2019, 01:12:28 PM
Has missed something like 60% of West Ham's games in the last 5 years through injury, non? :lol: Why would he ever be considered?

Ashley wants the physiotherapy team to pull their weight.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Mike on Saturday 27 July 2019, 01:13:48 PM
Has missed something like 60% of West Ham's games in the last 5 years through injury, non? :lol: Why would he ever be considered?

Bruce is a s*** manager and Ashley remembers that people were upset when he was sold. So Bruce gets another forehead for Colback hoofs and Ashley can act like this is some magnanimous s***. They're just a bunch of stupid f***ing c***s and god damn it all I could have been a Spurs fan.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Saturday 27 July 2019, 01:14:01 PM
Never actually thought we would want him back because of his injury record, but he would probably agree to come here on a pay as you play deal, so now I think it could well happen.

It will be a disaster for our football.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Chris_R on Saturday 27 July 2019, 03:27:07 PM
Has missed something like 60% of West Ham's games in the last 5 years through injury, non? :lol: Why would he ever be considered?

Free transfer.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Bimpy474 on Saturday 27 July 2019, 03:47:11 PM
Better option off the bench than Jos was like, if fit.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bigfella on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:04:21 PM
Never actually thought we would want him back because of his injury record, but he would probably agree to come here on a pay as you play deal, so now I think it could well happen.

It will be a disaster for our football.

Here we go again with the mythical "pay as you play deal" - has anyone got any credible source that shows such a deal has ever existed?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: samptime29 on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:13:49 PM
This could happen with it being a free transfer.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: TRon on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:14:46 PM
Never actually thought we would want him back because of his injury record, but he would probably agree to come here on a pay as you play deal, so now I think it could well happen.

It will be a disaster for our football.

Here we go again with the mythical "pay as you play deal" - has anyone got any credible source that shows such a deal has ever existed?

Didn't Ba have some sort of deal which was contingent on his dodgy knee holding up?

Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:23:44 PM
Never actually thought we would want him back because of his injury record, but he would probably agree to come here on a pay as you play deal, so now I think it could well happen.

It will be a disaster for our football.

Here we go again with the mythical "pay as you play deal" - has anyone got any credible source that shows such a deal has ever existed?

There’ll no doubt be players who have heavily incentivised contracts like. Something like a base salary of £40k a week, an extra £20k if he plays, £20k if he scores, etc.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Chris_R on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:26:29 PM
Never actually thought we would want him back because of his injury record, but he would probably agree to come here on a pay as you play deal, so now I think it could well happen.

It will be a disaster for our football.

Here we go again with the mythical "pay as you play deal" - has anyone got any credible source that shows such a deal has ever existed?

Paul McGrath for Villa?
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:27:58 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/14108872
Woodgate
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: James on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:31:53 PM
It’s more usual in the lower leagues
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: thomas on Saturday 27 July 2019, 04:54:29 PM
It’s more usual in the lower leagues
It'll be nice practice for us then.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: bigfella on Saturday 27 July 2019, 05:05:25 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/14108872
Woodgate

That's the first time I've ever seen it in direct quotes and even then Pulis says it's "effectively" pay as you play, so I'm still dubious.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:48:57 PM
?s=21
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:49:57 PM
Yuk.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: David Edgar on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:50:08 PM
He'll barely feature.  Utter crock.
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: JH on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:50:44 PM
IT’S COMING HOME
Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:51:15 PM
?s=21

What! Is this not a pay as you play deal?

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Title: Re: Andy Carroll
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:51:23 PM
worth a gamble, if it works out great if it doesn't its only a 1 year deal
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:51:54 PM
Previous thread: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58769.0.html

Will he be a Newcastle player again by the time this one reaches 1000 pages?

Only took 44.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:53:17 PM
Is he quality or quantity at this stage?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:55:56 PM
If he can stay fit ( :lol:) it does give us a nice range of options in attack.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Willow on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:56:41 PM
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Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: number9shirt on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:00:40 PM
Great signing. If only one of his bullet headers wins us 3 points it'll be worth whatever we pay him.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: danny on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:03:03 PM
Welcome home bigman  :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:04:17 PM
A small part of me loves that he's coming back. I'm sure it'll be an absolute disaster in that he'll be constantly injured, like.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Joe_F on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:04:59 PM
Pete Graves selling it on Sky.... "The fans love him"
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: khay on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:05:04 PM
Someones turned on the A.C!
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:05:06 PM
Move miggy to 7, give him the 24 he had in the championship year
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:09:08 PM
Ashley playing the geordie card again.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Disco on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: Louise Taylor
We should soon know whether Newcastle’s physio team will be working overtime this season as the club really need to make up their mind about Andy Carroll by the end of the day.

Considering the former West Ham striker - who, to Alan Pardew’s horror, departed Newcastle for Liverpool for £35m on transfer deadline day January 2011 - is currently a free agent that may seem puzzling but Premier League rules preclude Steve Bruce leaving any gaps in his 25 man squad which must be submitted to the ruling body tomorrow.

So it’s make your mind up time over Andy. He underwent ankle surgery earlier this year and is apparently recovering well but the club are trying to determine the likelihood of how many games he could potentially be match fit for between now and January.
If, the 30-year-old stayed fit it could be an inspired move; at his best Carroll is unplayable and it is no surprise his situation was one of the first checked out by Bruce as soon as he moved into Rafa Benitez’s old office.

But it is, undeniably, a very big if !
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:12:15 PM
Happy for him. He never actually asked to leave.

Hope he can prove his fitness and they can come up with a program to manage and maintain it.

If they're smart about things, he'll be a useful option and contributor this season.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:13:12 PM
Happy for him. He never actually asked to leave.

He put in a transfer request.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Andy on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:14:20 PM
Can't believe he's 30 like. He's about 24 in my head.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:14:59 PM
Happy for him. He never actually asked to leave.

He put in a transfer request.

He was forced to by Derek Llambias.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: Louise Taylor
We should soon know whether Newcastle’s physio team will be working overtime this season as the club really need to make up their mind about Andy Carroll by the end of the day.

Considering the former West Ham striker - who, to Alan Pardew’s horror, departed Newcastle for Liverpool for £35m on transfer deadline day January 2011 - is currently a free agent that may seem puzzling but Premier League rules preclude Steve Bruce leaving any gaps in his 25 man squad which must be submitted to the ruling body tomorrow.

So it’s make your mind up time over Andy. He underwent ankle surgery earlier this year and is apparently recovering well but the club are trying to determine the likelihood of how many games he could potentially be match fit for between now and January.
If, the 30-year-old stayed fit it could be an inspired move; at his best Carroll is unplayable and it is no surprise his situation was one of the first checked out by Bruce as soon as he moved into Rafa Benitez’s old office.

But it is, undeniably, a very big if !

:lol: k
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: samptime29 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:18:14 PM
A year deal is worth a gamble.

If he stays fit, I've no doubt he can contribute with a few goals.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:18:42 PM
30 years old and injury prone, ignore the fact he's from here and its an awful signing
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:18:52 PM
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Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:19:46 PM
?s=21

Mike loves an incentivised deal. If Carroll manages 65 games a season he'll get a £2 per hour uplift. Free goalie gloves too.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:20:24 PM
?s=21
Reefatoon just told us these deals don't exist though.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: midstoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:20:32 PM
I don't see him being fit enough to score many goals so the only other reason i can see us signing him would be a PR stunt to get more tickets sold. Ant and Dec were probably next on the list to get disgruntled fans back onside. It seems to be a masterstroke by Ashley and Bruce.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Aiston on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:20:35 PM
f*** sake. :lol:

Give him a week and he's injuring himself in Aspers.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:22:29 PM
30 years old and injury prone, ignore the fact he's from here and its an awful signing

Exactly, considering our strike force is really lacking in goals in the PL currently.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:24:10 PM
30 years old and injury prone, ignore the fact he's from here and its an awful signing

Exactly, considering our strike force is really lacking in goals in the PL currently.

Aye. A garbage buy and typical of NUFC under Ashley.

Imagine trying to get Rafa to sign off on this bullshit man :lol:.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:24:55 PM
Should see an extra 1k tickets sold before Sunday though, job done.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Scottish Mag on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:25:32 PM
Carroll will sign and Gayle will probably be sold before the day is out.  We break even on money in/out.......guess who wins again.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Carlito on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:26:09 PM
Andy Carroll's official NUFC unveiling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZeMZ3WPuLY
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:26:59 PM
I don’t hold anything against Carroll. Wish him well, though he’s pretty much finished at this level.

What’s irritating will be all the happy clappers getting in line like good little soldiers to exalt Ashley for bringing this “good Geordie lad home.”
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:28:03 PM
Even if he was over his injuries (he's not). He's a player who relied solely on physicality to be effective.He hasn't played for ages and his body wont be the same as it was, it will be a disaster. Add to the fact he can now go see all his mates in town, hardly a good combo
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:31:03 PM
Carroll will sign and Gayle will probably be sold before the day is out.  We break even on money in/out.......guess who wins again.

Aye and all we'll get in the press is how the fat c*** broke the record and spent his own money.

I'm beyond negative about all NUFC related stuff. I'm completely and utterly sick of it.

I really need to give the whole thing up.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Elliottman on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:31:10 PM
Even if he was over his injuries (he's not). He's a player who relied solely on physicality to be effective.He hasn't played for ages and his body wont be the same as it was, it will be a disaster. Add to the fact he can now go see all his mates in town, hardly a good combo

I don't think there'll be a single person who doesn't think he'll be crocked most of the season. If you get 10 appearances out of him you've done well.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:31:32 PM
Happy for him. He never actually asked to leave.

He put in a transfer request.

He was forced to by Derek Llambias.

Yeah, it was pretty much knowledge at the time that he was asked to.

But I'm sure neesy knew that already.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Gottlob on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:33:22 PM
I predict a training ground bust-up with Jonjo Shelvey inside six months.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Sima on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:33:25 PM
Up there with the Shefki Kuqi signing, this.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:34:01 PM
I predict a training ground bust-up with Jonjo Shelvey inside six months.

Hope they knock each other out the pair of pricks.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:34:28 PM
Sibierski.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:34:29 PM
Up there with the Shefki Kuqi signing, this.

Would be interested to see a poll on those in favour Vs those against signing him.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: geordiedean on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:35:07 PM
I predict a training ground bust-up with Jonjo Shelvey inside six months.

Yep guaranteed he will call him a baldy b****** at some stage
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:35:12 PM
Even if he was over his injuries (he's not). He's a player who relied solely on physicality to be effective.He hasn't played for ages and his body wont be the same as it was, it will be a disaster. Add to the fact he can now go see all his mates in town, hardly a good combo

I don't think there'll be a single person who doesn't think he'll be crocked most of the season. If you get 10 appearances out of him you've done well.

Yeah true, he's played 90mins once since 2018. Not great. Bruce will be jizzing himself at the knockdowns though
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:35:42 PM
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Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:36:04 PM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/PYEGoZXABBMuk/source.gif)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:36:56 PM
Happy for him. He never actually asked to leave.

He put in a transfer request.

He was forced to by Derek Llambias.

Yeah, it was pretty much knowledge at the time that he was asked to.

But I'm sure neesy knew that already.

Tell me how you force a player to do a transfer request especially in an era of player power?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Joe_F on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:38:45 PM
Up there with the Shefki Kuqi signing, this.

Would be interested to see a poll on those in favour Vs those against signing him.

They did one on Sky.

Twenty-five thousand votes with 63% in favour.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: chopey on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:38:46 PM
Two weeks away from full fitness...................WTF, he hasn't struck a bat for months
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:40:51 PM
 :lol: f***ing rotten, this. It’s hilarious.

So many knackas thinking it’s mint when he’ll spend most of the season injured.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: covmag on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:41:41 PM
f*** all to lose, decent business, depends how you look at it.

It’s how we roll
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: chopey on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:44:18 PM
Have we even spent his £35 million yet ?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: 54 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:44:18 PM
Even injured he's an upgrade in Joselu, not that it says much lol
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: thomas on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:44:57 PM
Even if he was over his injuries (he's not). He's a player who relied solely on physicality to be effective.He hasn't played for ages and his body wont be the same as it was, it will be a disaster. Add to the fact he can now go see all his mates in town, hardly a good combo

I don't think there'll be a single person who doesn't think he'll be crocked most of the season. If you get 10 appearances out of him you've done well.

Yeah true, he's played 90mins once since 2018. Not great. Bruce will be jizzing himself at the knockdowns though
wor jack says Brucie's got fitness levels rising off the chart mate. Andy will be right as rain in no time.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TRon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:45:17 PM
f*** all to lose, decent business, depends how you look at it.

It’s how we roll

Under a firm manager who knows how to implement a gameplan yes. Rafa would have been ideal.

Under Steve Bruce I can see us using route one hoofball as soon as he is on the pitch, especially after a couple of bad results.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ZeRoE on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:45:33 PM
Will never forgive him for diving against us for Liverpool.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: junkhead on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:45:52 PM
It's obvious that his body can't handle the intensity of the Premier League.

Still, I'm happy that he's back, always loved the big f***er!
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:46:28 PM
Just wait 5-6 games when Maximin & Almiron are binned for the long ball up to Carroll.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:46:37 PM
Will never forgive him for diving against us for Liverpool.

totally forgot about that.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:46:38 PM
Even injured he's an upgrade in Joselu, not that it says much lol

Incorrect.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:47:10 PM
Dummy at the back, Geordie Jack and Longy in the middle, big Andy up front, Broocy in the dugout.

Well played Mike.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: triggs on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:49:11 PM
Was always going to happen eventually
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TRon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:50:04 PM
Dummy at the back, Geordie Jack and Longy in the middle, big Andy up front, Broocy in the dugout.

Well played Mike.

Watch those season tickets get snapped up in the next week or two.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:56:03 PM
Christ almighty.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: mouldy_uk on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:56:36 PM
Can’t wait for his first injury :/
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:57:01 PM
Free, low wage, replacing Joselu...... fine, whatever.

Joelinton, Saint-Maximin, Gayle and Muto ahead of him though.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Rafalove on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:57:18 PM
Happy for him. He never actually asked to leave.

He put in a transfer request.

He was forced to by Derek Llambias.

Yeah, it was pretty much knowledge at the time that he was asked to.

But I'm sure neesy knew that already.

Tell me how you force a player to do a transfer request especially in an era of player power?



Carroll had just signed a new contract at the time. Liverpool offered more money, Carroll would have stayed if he was offered the same offered at  Liverpool . We said no, he went to Liverpool. Hardly forced out like Carroll had claimed.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:57:56 PM
Will never forgive him for diving against us for Liverpool.

If he didn't he would've scored so I'm okay with it
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:59:06 PM
Free, low wage, replacing Joselu...... fine, whatever.

Joelinton, Saint-Maximin, Gayle and Muto ahead of him though.

Not to mention Almiron.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TRon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:01:46 PM
His injury record won't really matter as far as Mike is concerned. If he is fit for about 20% of the games he should be able to contribute enough goals or assists to get a few extra points and that gives us safety. A big lad up front means you don't need a manager relying too much on tactics either. We have turned back into the NUFC of olden days with John Tudor and Supermac. Not likely to get relegated but enough in the side to grab a few unexpected wins.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:02:15 PM
Ryder must be running out of jizz rags the amount of geordies around the club at the minute
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TRon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:03:25 PM
Free, low wage, replacing Joselu...... fine, whatever.

Joelinton, Saint-Maximin, Gayle and Muto ahead of him though.

Hahaha. You must be joking. If he's fit he'll probably end up ahead of all them if we lose a couple of games.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: sbnufc on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:04:33 PM
Carroll ffs
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Consortium of one on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:06:10 PM
how many senior players do we have that have to be registered?  30?  Some have to go surely.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ChrisMcQuillan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:06:38 PM
SSN saying no deal agreed. He doesn't have an agent so they've had to bring lawyers in. :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TRon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:08:21 PM
f*** me, even the agents must have given up on him. :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Consortium of one on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:08:56 PM
 :mike:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:10:35 PM
SSN saying no deal agreed. He doesn't have an agent so they've had to bring lawyers in. :lol:

Holy f***
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:11:21 PM
did he have an agent before? I remember Given never bothered with one just used his lawyer for any contract stuff etc
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:16:59 PM
how many senior players do we have that have to be registered?  30?  Some have to go surely.

Up to 25, and you some of those have to have homegrown rules etc, so aye some players will have to go.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: gdm on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:17:14 PM
It was Carroll or nobody so I don’t hate it. If we had other options to sign I’d go for the other options but we don’t
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:18:11 PM
If he stays fit it's a good signing, well imo. He won't stay fit though, he never does like.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:22:33 PM
Well pleased if we sign Carroll.  When he did play at West Ham he always looked like scoring.  He's a real threat from free kicks and corners.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: themanupstairs on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:22:36 PM
What a pathetic club we are :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TBG on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:23:13 PM
This one might go well into the night.

SO STAY TUNED TO SKY SPORTS NEWS FOR ALL THE LATEST UPDATES ON DEADLINE DAY.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:23:31 PM
Hope he doesn’t have to pass a medical.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: chopey on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:24:03 PM
What a pathetic club we are :lol:

At least we are interesting, imagine being a Burnley fan right now
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:27:31 PM
Hope he doesn’t have to pass a medical.

Sounds like they did all that weeks ago, had to prove his fitness apparently.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: UncleBingo on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:31:00 PM
Predictable and depressing in equal measures.

From Rafa and a Dubai takeover, to Steve Bruce's team lumping it up to Carroll within 3 months is canny impressive even by our standards.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:32:30 PM
Medical passed and fitness proved.  Signing a one year pay as you play deal so a real upgrade on Joselu.  Why spend money that could used to bring in anotjer player with the saving on a transfer fee.  A good bit of business as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:32:52 PM
Predictable and depressing in equal measures.

From Rafa and a Dubai takeover, to Steve Bruce's team lumping it up to Carroll within 3 months is canny impressive even by our standards.  :lol: :lol:

That's not quite right really is it, i mean if you are going to ignore Joelinton, ASM and Almiron like, i get the sentiment but as a back up player i see no problem with it.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:32:54 PM
Predictable and depressing in equal measures.

From Rafa and a Dubai takeover, to Steve Bruce's team lumping it up to Carroll within 3 months is canny impressive even by our standards.  :lol: :lol:

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: poor on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:33:21 PM
Medical passed and fitness proved.  Signing a one year pay as you play deal so a real upgrade on Joselu.  Why does money when you don't have to.   A good bit of business as far as I'm concerned.

a finer stamp of approval there never was
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:34:24 PM
I really liked him when he was here and expected big things to happen for him,  actually quite happy with this move
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:36:57 PM
He may be our last 15 minute secret weapon like Peter Crouch has been for Burnley and Stoke the last few years.

IF he ever gets fit enough to make the bench.

Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:37:55 PM
Happy for him. He never actually asked to leave.

He put in a transfer request.

He was forced to by Derek Llambias.

Yeah, it was pretty much knowledge at the time that he was asked to.

But I'm sure neesy knew that already.

Tell me how you force a player to do a transfer request especially in an era of player power?



Carroll had just signed a new contract at the time. Liverpool offered more money, Carroll would have stayed if he was offered the same offered at  Liverpool . We said no, he went to Liverpool. Hardly forced out like Carroll had claimed.

:thup:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:38:03 PM
I really like him when he was here and expected big things to happen for him, i'm actually quite happy with this move

He looked like he had it all during that spell between August-December '10. His physique was incredible and he had decent technique on the ball. Aerially he was excellent and he also had just enough pace for it not to limit him. If he'd stayed with us and stayed fit, he'd have probably scored over 100 goals for us.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:39:03 PM
Would be fun to see a team consisting of Dummett, Long&Shortstaff and Carroll on the pitch this season if Benitez was still here under new ownership.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:52:44 PM
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Reefatoon just told us these deals don't exist though.

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Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:54:06 PM
I actually don't mind this deal, if it's a low basic wage. It just makes complete sense.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: James on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:55:34 PM
Would be fun to see a team consisting of Dummett, Long&Shortstaff and Carroll on the pitch this season if Benitez was still here under new ownership.

In which case three of those would be nowhere near the club
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:57:24 PM
True, but would still be fun :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Joe_F on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:57:39 PM
Steve McClaren about to give his view on SSN. Perfect.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:59:00 PM
Have we even spent his £35 million yet ?

No but they're setting it aside now for medical fees.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: bhoywhonder on Thursday 8 August 2019, 02:59:06 PM
Medical passed and fitness proved.  Signing a one year pay as you play deal so a real upgrade on Joselu.  Why spend money that could used to bring in anotjer player with the saving on a transfer fee.  A good bit of business as far as I'm concerned.

Me too.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:01:24 PM
Just wait 5-6 games when Maximin & Almiron are binned for the long ball up to Carroll.

5-6 games”. Every f***ing game.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Frazzle on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:02:14 PM
Medical passed and fitness proved.  Signing a one year pay as you play deal so a real upgrade on Joselu.  Why spend money that could used to bring in anotjer player with the saving on a transfer fee.  A good bit of business as far as I'm concerned.

Scored less league goals than joselu last season and less than joselu over the last two years.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:03:07 PM
Predictable and depressing in equal measures.

From Rafa and a Dubai takeover, to Steve Bruce's team lumping it up to Carroll within 3 months is canny impressive even by our standards.  :lol: :lol:

:lol: This is so true.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory/progress.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:06:28 PM
Carroll's at SJP according to Ryder.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: geordiedean on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:06:30 PM
Dat header he scored for England against Sweden. Also I'll always have very fond memories of that bullet header cannoning back off the bar before Sholas scissor kick into the net in th 5-1
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: 54 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:12:43 PM
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:13:23 PM
Medical passed and fitness proved.  Signing a one year pay as you play deal so a real upgrade on Joselu.  Why spend money that could used to bring in anotjer player with the saving on a transfer fee.  A good bit of business as far as I'm concerned.

Scored less league goals than joselu last season and less than joselu over the last two years.
Well that speaks volumes for Joselu seeing as Carroll couldn't play due to injuries.  At least he scored or looked like scoring when he was fit unlike Joselu who never looked threat to the opposition goal.  Even if Carroll only plays 5 games but scores the winner in those games that's 15 points in the bag.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Heake on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:13:46 PM
Carroll's at SJP according to Ryder.

At least we wont have all that shenanigans when the 1 pixel long range camera shot gets leaked like we did earlier in the week
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Rocker on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:13:55 PM
Carroll's at SJP according to Ryder.

Saw him about 45 mins ago
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: deejeck on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:15:42 PM

He seems capable of standing up, that's a good start anyway.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: midstoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:15:44 PM
looks different without crutches.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: covmag on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:16:09 PM
What a signing  :frantic:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Heake on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:17:42 PM
looks different without crutches.

Looks micey
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:17:57 PM
Thought I wouldn't give a f*** if this came off, but I've got that tingling feeling in the bollocks again for the first time since the fakeover news broke.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TRon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:19:51 PM
Thought I wouldn't give a f*** if this came off, but I've got that tingling feeling in the bollocks again for the first time since the fakeover news broke.

Of course you have, that was the whole point of this signing.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:21:06 PM
Thought I wouldn't give a f*** if this came off, but I've got that tingling feeling in the bollocks again for the first time since the fakeover news broke.

Of course you have, that was the whole point of this signing.

Oh aye, but the feeling will pass soon enough :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:22:33 PM
Thought I wouldn't give a f*** if this came off, but I've got that tingling feeling in the bollocks again for the first time since the fakeover news broke.

That's puberty dude.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: SiLvOR on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:23:30 PM
f*** me.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: DMC on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:26:31 PM
Jesus wept, just when you thought things couldn't get more desperate.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:26:32 PM
Predictable and f***ing pathetic.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:27:53 PM
Christ, Silvor you shouldn't have posted that straight after Bimpy.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Rocker on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:28:28 PM
I was twenty five and full of spunk when this c*** last played for us.

Now I've got specks of grey and sometimes want to kill myself.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: BottledDog on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:28:30 PM

Looks older than my dad.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: DMC on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:28:43 PM
I can see it now, he'll turn up for an interview give it the usual slather then trip over his shoe laces as he leaves, out for the season.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: poor on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:32:15 PM
I was twenty five and full of spunk when this c*** last played for us.

Now I've got specks of grey and sometimes want to kill myself.

in this boat too
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:32:50 PM
This is Ashley’s target audience. The ones who love a Geordie and will go no matter what s**** he puts in front of them. He’ll always have that core of 40k who will go regardless. Probably why he puts prices up, for the 5-6k who will no longer go, he knows he can take the p*ss out of the sheep who’ll still go so covers quite a bit of missing fans’ income. Plus he doesn’t have to spend as much on staff and players because people will still go.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:33:34 PM
Does this mean we've gone full circle and have fully reinvested the Carroll money?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:34:31 PM
f***ing embarrassing.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: SiLvOR on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:35:46 PM
Christ, Silvor you shouldn't have posted that straight after Bimpy.

:lol: It's been a while since I've posted, forgotten everything
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:35:56 PM
If the expectation for him is anything beyond “try to stay healthy,” they’re fools.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: 54 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:36:08 PM
I'm honestly surprised at the reaction, we are short a striker, and as a short term fix I think he'll be alright. While it is pandering to an extent, I'm just looking at it as a better replacement for Joselu.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: chopey on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:37:10 PM
I remember thinking that £35 million was a good offer so long as we invest the money in the team .............................................stil l waiting
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:37:56 PM
This is Ashley’s target audience. The ones who love a Geordie and will go no matter what s**** he puts in front of them. He’ll always have that core of 40k who will go regardless. Probably why he puts prices up, for the 5-6k who will no longer go, he knows he can take the p*ss out of the sheep who’ll still go so covers quite a bit of missing fans’ income. Plus he doesn’t have to spend as much on staff and players because people will still go.

:thup:
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: samptime29 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:38:33 PM
Clearly better than Joselu tbf.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:40:26 PM
I'm honestly surprised at the reaction, we are short a striker, and as a short term fix I think he'll be alright. While it is pandering to an extent, I'm just looking at it as a better replacement for Joselu.

If there was any chance of him staying fully fit for the season, speculative comparisons with Rondon wouldn't be unreasonable.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:41:01 PM
He can only be better than Joselu if he's fit, also Joselu hardly got any game time the 2nd half of last season.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: danny on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:43:17 PM
Jesus christ guys
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:43:20 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:44:05 PM
For health reasons alone, Carroll is certainly not a better option than Joselu at this point.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:45:57 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.

I mean i have no opinions on Joelinton but the other strikers there are awful. The standards have really dropped if that's what's considered  "not bad".
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:47:55 PM
f*** me, shows how easily pleased everyone is now.  Standards really have dropped through the floor.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Collage on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:48:47 PM
Bring all the Geordies home. Michael Carrick out of retirement next.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:49:12 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.

I mean i have no opinions on Joelinton but the other strikers there are awful. The standards have really dropped if that's what's considered  "not bad".

Awful? Jesus Christ man. We are yet to know whether Gayle can do it in the PL... Rafa barely played him. And same with Muto... every time I've seen him play he's been a livewire, and most posters on here were complaining about his lack of game time last season.

And Carroll, if fit, is a great option from the bench. You know he is. You just have no interest whatsoever in saying anything remotely positive.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Hughesy on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:50:29 PM
You know Gayle played in the PL before he played for us, right?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: chopey on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:51:31 PM
You know Gayle played in the PL before he played for us, right?

As a Winger
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Frazzle on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:51:43 PM
Medical passed and fitness proved.  Signing a one year pay as you play deal so a real upgrade on Joselu.  Why spend money that could used to bring in anotjer player with the saving on a transfer fee.  A good bit of business as far as I'm concerned.

Scored less league goals than joselu last season and less than joselu over the last two years.
Well that speaks volumes for Joselu seeing as Carroll couldn't play due to injuries.  At least he scored or looked like scoring when he was fit unlike Joselu who never looked threat to the opposition goal.  Even if Carroll only plays 5 games but scores the winner in those games that's 15 points in the bag.

That's kind of the point though isn't it? He rarely plays these days. And he didn't score when he was fit last season, at least not in the league.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:52:03 PM
“We are yet to know whether Gayle can do it in the PL.”

Just the 99 PL appearances for him now.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:52:27 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.

I mean i have no opinions on Joelinton but the other strikers there are awful. The standards have really dropped if that's what's considered  "not bad".

Awful? Jesus Christ man. We are yet to know whether Gayle can do it in the PL... Rafa barely played him. And same with Muto... every time I've seen him play he's been a livewire, and most posters on here were complaining about his lack of game time last season.

And Carroll, if fit, is a great option from the bench. You know he is. You just have no interest whatsoever in saying anything remotely positive.

100 appearences in the Premier League and you spout this s****?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:52:28 PM
f*** me, shows how easily pleased everyone is now.  Standards really have dropped through the floor.
So who should we have signed that were of a higher standard?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:53:16 PM
f*** me, shows how easily pleased everyone is now.  Standards really have dropped through the floor.
So who should we have signed that were of a higher standard?

This is a perpetually dumb and irrelevant point.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:53:18 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.

I mean i have no opinions on Joelinton but the other strikers there are awful. The standards have really dropped if that's what's considered  "not bad".

Awful? Jesus Christ man. We are yet to know whether Gayle can do it in the PL... Rafa barely played him. And same with Muto... every time I've seen him play he's been a livewire, and most posters on here were complaining about his lack of game time last season.

And Carroll, if fit, is a great option from the bench. You know he is. You just have no interest whatsoever in saying anything remotely positive.

On Gayle, yes we do. He's not good enough, he's proved that multiple times over multiple different seasons for different clubs that he's not good enough.

Muto i'm willing to accept he may have a chance but i still doubt it, as for Carroll he's been crap for years whether he's been fit or not. Also don't assume i have no interest in saying anything positive because i have a negative opinion on this subject. ( with good reason)

Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Wolfcastle on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:53:29 PM
Remember when we brought Beardsley back?

This is the opposite of that.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:53:31 PM
f*** me, shows how easily pleased everyone is now.  Standards really have dropped through the floor.

Joelinton... in his appearances so far looks a good player. Scored two and won a penalty. Works well with Almiron.

Muto... livewire but perhaps hasn't had many opportunities due to not fitting into Rafa's system and Rondon being so good.

Gayle... yet to prove whether he can cut it in the PL. I suspect not (if you expect him to be main striker) but certainly a good option from the bench and a very good finisher on his day.

Carroll... offers something completely different (with the caveat of "if he's fit").

Almiron... played off Joelinton in a number 10 role in the last two friendlies and they combined really well. Needs to score, but more than makes up for it in the amount of chances he creates or makes space for.

Saint-Maximin... again, based off only seeing him live for 30 mins, he looks a livewire and certainly an upgrade on the Atsu's and Ritchie's of this world.

All of those will be fighting it out for 2 positions in Bruce's likely system. That isn't a bad choice at all.

Or do you just have no desire to say anything positive as usual?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:54:13 PM
Still a huge amount of pressure on Joelinton, ASM and Almiron - and that's assuming the two young lads who've never played in the Premier League and have very few career goals between them will actually perform. I'm optimistic that they will do but there's a significant amount of risk there above keeping Rafa, Rondon and Perez.

Muto's s****, Gayle struggles and Carroll won't stay fit.

All of this is, of course, notwithstanding the bullshit-laden method which has actually resulted in the whole lot being compiled. And never mind the manager.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:54:28 PM
I'm honestly surprised at the reaction, we are short a striker, and as a short term fix I think he'll be alright. While it is pandering to an extent, I'm just looking at it as a better replacement for Joselu.

It's almost as if he's the only striker we've signed.

In actuality he is 1 of 6 options we can now use upfront in a 2 striker setup.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:54:43 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.

I mean i have no opinions on Joelinton but the other strikers there are awful. The standards have really dropped if that's what's considered  "not bad".

Awful? Jesus Christ man. We are yet to know whether Gayle can do it in the PL... Rafa barely played him. And same with Muto... every time I've seen him play he's been a livewire, and most posters on here were complaining about his lack of game time last season.

And Carroll, if fit, is a great option from the bench. You know he is. You just have no interest whatsoever in saying anything remotely positive.

On Gayle, yes we do. He's not good enough, he's proved that multiple times over multiple different seasons for different clubs that he's not good enough.

Muto i'm willing to accept he may have a chance but i still doubt it, as for Carroll he's been crap for years whether he's been fit or not. Also don't assume i have no interest in saying anything positive because i have a negative opinion on this subject. ( with good reason)

To start. But a lot of clubs in our league standing would like to have a Dwight Gayle on the bench.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: healthyaddiction on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:54:55 PM
f*** me, shows how easily pleased everyone is now.  Standards really have dropped through the floor.
So who should we have signed that were of a higher standard?
Solomon Rondon to name one. There are a hundred better strikers out there if you're prepared to spend a bit of money.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: 1964 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:55:12 PM
For health reasons alone, Carroll is certainly not a better option than Joselu at this point.
For footballing reasons alone he is certainly a better option than Joselu
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:55:37 PM
Still a huge amount of pressure on Joelinton, ASM and Almiron - and that's assuming the two young lads who've never played in the Premier League and have very few career goals between them will actually perform. I'm optimistic that they will do but there's a significant amount of risk there above keeping Rafa, Rondon and Perez.

Muto's s****, Gayle struggles and Carroll won't stay fit.

All of this is, of course, notwithstanding the bullshit-laden method which has actually resulted in the whole lot being compiled. And never mind the manager.

He's not like.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Disco on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:56:02 PM
Strong stench of Lonsdale slip-ons in here.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:56:15 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.

I mean i have no opinions on Joelinton but the other strikers there are awful. The standards have really dropped if that's what's considered  "not bad".

Awful? Jesus Christ man. We are yet to know whether Gayle can do it in the PL... Rafa barely played him. And same with Muto... every time I've seen him play he's been a livewire, and most posters on here were complaining about his lack of game time last season.

And Carroll, if fit, is a great option from the bench. You know he is. You just have no interest whatsoever in saying anything remotely positive.

On Gayle, yes we do. He's not good enough, he's proved that multiple times over multiple different seasons for different clubs that he's not good enough.

Muto i'm willing to accept he may have a chance but i still doubt it, as for Carroll he's been crap for years whether he's been fit or not. Also don't assume i have no interest in saying anything positive because i have a negative opinion on this subject. ( with good reason)

To start. But a lot of clubs in our league standing would like to have a Dwight Gayle on the bench.

Why aren't they queuing up to sign him then? instead he spent the entire last season at West Brom.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: healthyaddiction on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:56:36 PM
For health reasons alone, Carroll is certainly not a better option than Joselu at this point.
For footballing reasons alone he is certainly a better option than Joselu
If he's ever on the pitch, which he hasn't managed for 8 years.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: themanupstairs on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:56:39 PM
Medical passed and fitness proved.  Signing a one year pay as you play deal so a real upgrade on Joselu.  Why spend money that could used to bring in anotjer player with the saving on a transfer fee.  A good bit of business as far as I'm concerned.

:lol:  Where have you been the last ten years?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:57:07 PM
So everyone complaining about this. Providing we don't sell anyone this afternoon, our crop of strikers will be:

Joelinton
Muto
Gayle
Carroll

Plus players who can play off the striker:

Almiron
Saint-Maximin

That's not a bad selection at all. I appreciate there's some unknown quantities in there, but anyone that we bought would be an unknown quantity really.

I mean i have no opinions on Joelinton but the other strikers there are awful. The standards have really dropped if that's what's considered  "not bad".

Awful? Jesus Christ man. We are yet to know whether Gayle can do it in the PL... Rafa barely played him. And same with Muto... every time I've seen him play he's been a livewire, and most posters on here were complaining about his lack of game time last season.

And Carroll, if fit, is a great option from the bench. You know he is. You just have no interest whatsoever in saying anything remotely positive.

On Gayle, yes we do. He's not good enough, he's proved that multiple times over multiple different seasons for different clubs that he's not good enough.

Muto i'm willing to accept he may have a chance but i still doubt it, as for Carroll he's been crap for years whether he's been fit or not. Also don't assume i have no interest in saying anything positive because i have a negative opinion on this subject. ( with good reason)

To start. But a lot of clubs in our league standing would like to have a Dwight Gayle on the bench.

Why aren't they queuing up to sign him then? instead he spent the entire last season at West Brom.

Because they don't want to spend £15m (which is what we have been quoted as wanting for him) for him to sit on the bench.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:57:25 PM
Still a huge amount of pressure on Joelinton, ASM and Almiron - and that's assuming the two young lads who've never played in the Premier League and have very few career goals between them will actually perform. I'm optimistic that they will do but there's a significant amount of risk there above keeping Rafa, Rondon and Perez.

Muto's s****, Gayle struggles and Carroll won't stay fit.

All of this is, of course, notwithstanding the bullshit-laden method which has actually resulted in the whole lot being compiled. And never mind the manager.

He's not like.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxNNcDm9/muto.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:58:43 PM
15m  :laugh: as if man.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: soyt on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:58:48 PM
Upgrade from Joselu? Also, he is apparently the geordie hero and now all the fans are 100% behind local lad Steve Bruce
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: themanupstairs on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:58:56 PM
Andy Carroll as a deadline day signing to replace Joselu in a well padded out, balanced squad is fine. Andy Carroll in the state our midfield and forward options is in is f***ing moronic.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:59:45 PM
15m  :laugh: as if man.

I'm not saying I think he's worth that... I'm saying that's how much we have been quoted as wanting for him. It's well reported.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 03:59:57 PM
How and why is Muto being written off as s**** exactly?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:00:53 PM
How and why is Muto being written off as s**** exactly?

Because everyone's f***ing miserable and no matter how much rationality you try to use, it doesn't fit their outlook on life/NUFC/the world?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:01:51 PM
15m  :laugh: as if man.

I'm not saying I think he's worth that... I'm saying that's how much we have been quoted as wanting for him. It's well reported.

Reports mean nothing, none of them know anything. We'd accept a third of that for Gayle. But nobody clearly wants to spend anything on him as his performances haven't justified anything.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:02:11 PM
Andy Carroll as a deadline day signing to replace Joselu in a well padded out, balanced squad is fine. Andy Carroll in the state our midfield and forward options is in is f***ing moronic.

Exactly, if we had 3 players in front him that were experienced and good enough then fine.  If we are more leaky at the back this season (which I'm sure we will be) then our strikers are going to have to replace the missing goals from last season + more.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:02:21 PM
Can see what @Shadow Puppets is saying like. I've a good feeling about Joelinton & SM myself. Also think Almiron is mint.

2 problems:

1. Steve f***ing Bruce is managing them
2. They literally have zero PL goals between them

Even assuming knackers plays all 3 it's a massive gamble.

Is there another non-promoted team with a first choice strike force that's scored zero goals collectively?

I highly doubt it. That's why it's been a s**** window.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:04:16 PM
Can see what @Shadow Puppets is saying like. I've a good feeling about Joelinton & SM myself. Also think Almiron is mint.

2 problems:

1. Steve f***ing Bruce is managing them
2. They literally have zero PL goals between them

Even assuming knackers plays all 3 it's a massive gamble.

Is there another non-promoted team with a first choice strike force that's scored zero goals collectively?

I highly doubt it. That's why it's been a s**** window.

Tbf i don't think anyone is criticising Joelinton, Almiron or SM. More Carroll, Muto and Gayle.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:04:56 PM
Cab see what @Shadow Puppets is saying like. I've a good feeling about Joelinton & SM myself. Also think Almiron is mint.

2 problems:

1. Steve f***ing Bruce is managing them
2. They literally have zero PL goals between them

Even assuming knackers plays all 3 it's a massive gamble.

Is there another non-promoted team with a strike force that's scored zero goals collectively?

I highly doubt it. That's why it's been a s**** window.

What we needed to do was to sign Rondon and add another striker for Joselu.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: TBG on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:05:17 PM
(https://imgshare.io/images/2019/08/08/IMG_20190808_160014.png)

Ahahahahahah that's a good one.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Disco on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:05:22 PM
Can see what @Shadow Puppets is saying like. I've a good feeling about Joelinton & SM myself. Also think Almiron is mint.

2 problems:

1. Steve f***ing Bruce is managing them
2. They literally have zero PL goals between them

Even assuming knackers plays all 3 it's a massive gamble.

Is there another non-promoted team with a first choice strike force that's scored zero goals collectively?

I highly doubt it. That's why it's been a s**** window.

A high proportion of match goers see beloved Steve as an improvement on Rafa though.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:05:36 PM
How and why is Muto being written off as s**** exactly?

Because everyone's f***ing miserable and no matter how much rationality you try to use, it doesn't fit their outlook on life/NUFC/the world?

It's sad man. Anyway we'll all find out once the season kicks off.

What I don't get is how the same people that lament bringing in the inexperienced Joelinton, are raving about Everton signing Moise Kean? Or Villa getting in Moraes?

They'll say we should have been in for Wilson who has only played at Championship level, while claiming Saint Maximin is no better than Atsu or akin to a dog chasing a balloon.

Stuff is mental man.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:06:53 PM
How and why is Muto being written off as s**** exactly?

Because everyone's f***ing miserable and no matter how much rationality you try to use, it doesn't fit their outlook on life/NUFC/the world?

It's sad man. Anyway we'll all find out once the season kicks off.

What I don't get is how the same people that lament bringing in the inexperienced Joelinton, are raving about Everton signing Moise Kean? Or Villa getting in Moraes?

They'll say we should have been in for Wilson who has only played at Championship level, while claiming Saint Maximin is no better than Atsu or akin to a dog chasing a balloon.

Stuff is mental man.

Big difference, they are adding them to their teams not to replace their main striker.


But it's fine everyone KAKA is always right.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Consortium of one on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:06:57 PM
I'm really hoping Brewcee plays 3 attackers and 2 CM.  Atsu and Ritchie for sure can play attack off the CF and I think Muto has played that way in addition to CF.

Edit: so we have somewhat adequate back up for the advanced positions
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: geordiedean on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:08:02 PM
Saying we dont know if Gayle can do it in the premier league WTF hes had 100 appearances and done f*** all

Charlie Austin is a far better premier league player than him and hes just been surplus at Southampton
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:08:31 PM
One last thing, i don't know about everyone else but i'm far from miserable :lol: the complete opposite in fact.

Rightly Criticising Newcastle United Football Club doesn't mean i'm miserable, it's not that deep.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:08:58 PM
How and why is Muto being written off as s**** exactly?

Because everyone's f***ing miserable and no matter how much rationality you try to use, it doesn't fit their outlook on life/NUFC/the world?

True in my case certainly but, rationally speaking, Muto has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he'll make an impact for us.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: sugoinufc on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:10:55 PM
Many things is wrong at NUFC. But for us to sign Andy for cheap money in a 3rd - 4th choice role is not bad.

If he can get fit and just play well 2nd half of the season - then it will be an ok signing.

Play him right and he is a beast. I would have liked more quality obviously - but if he is a backup signing, then i don´t mind.

Actually looking forward to see Muto and Joelinton.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:15:30 PM
How and why is Muto being written off as s**** exactly?

Because everyone's f***ing miserable and no matter how much rationality you try to use, it doesn't fit their outlook on life/NUFC/the world?

It's sad man. Anyway we'll all find out once the season kicks off.

What I don't get is how the same people that lament bringing in the inexperienced Joelinton, are raving about Everton signing Moise Kean? Or Villa getting in Moraes?

They'll say we should have been in for Wilson who has only played at Championship level, while claiming Saint Maximin is no better than Atsu or akin to a dog chasing a balloon.

Stuff is mental man.

Big difference, they are adding them to their teams not to replace their main striker.


But it's fine everyone KAKA is always right.

Calvert-Lewin was Everton's main striker to end the season. Having usurped the ineffective Cenk Tosun. Stop it.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: hakka on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:16:42 PM
I'm not too bothered about Carroll being on a free - I thought it was going to happen and far sooner than it has. Given it took until now to sign him it really must be a "oh well, we've spent our budget and he's still available" sort of thing.

It's just such a cliche signing with bringing another Geordie home after Bruce. I'd be surprised if he managed to play many games, but surely he's more of a threat than Joselu?
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:17:51 PM
Done deal according to Womanchester
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:18:01 PM
Remember when we brought Beardsley back?

This is the opposite of that.
I remember a little murmuring of unrest when we did that as well as we didn't really sign anyone else that summer and he was getting on a bit, he got chinned off Ruddock pre season and was replaced temporarily by Malcolm Allen on the cheap as well.

Things worked out quite nicely though as it happened.

This time is a bit different mind as Beardsley at the very very least was fit to play other than the busted eye socket that Ruddock gave him.
Carroll has never been properly fit since he left us.


Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Hughesy on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:26:43 PM
Don't see what's so complicated.  We've lost Perez and Rondon and Joselu.  We replaced them with the unproven Joelinton, a perma-crock Carroll and proven-to-not-be-PL-standard Gayle.  To improve on last season's team, we should, at a bare minimum, be selling Gayle for 15m or so (subsidising his wages, if need be) and buying a quality replacement for the Gayle money plus some of extra funds knocking around.

What we've done is a cop out and it's not good enough.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: La Parka on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:33:29 PM
Love the radgie t***. Loved him first time round also. It's a deal that makes sense for all parties.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: leffe186 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:38:10 PM
Don't see what's so complicated.  We've lost Perez and Rondon and Joselu.  We replaced them with the unproven Joelinton, a perma-crock Carroll and proven-to-not-be-PL-standard Gayle.  To improve on last season's team, we should, at a bare minimum, be selling Gayle for 15m or so (subsidising his wages, if need be) and buying a quality replacement for the Gayle money plus some of extra funds knocking around.

What we've done is a cop out and it's not good enough.

I dunno, David Luiz has just gone for 8M, really can't see you getting 15M for Gayle. Also, you should probably have appended a qualifying adjective to Joselu too :lol:.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Hughesy on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:41:40 PM
Don't see what's so complicated.  We've lost Perez and Rondon and Joselu.  We replaced them with the unproven Joelinton, a perma-crock Carroll and proven-to-not-be-PL-standard Gayle.  To improve on last season's team, we should, at a bare minimum, be selling Gayle for 15m or so (subsidising his wages, if need be) and buying a quality replacement for the Gayle money plus some of extra funds knocking around.

What we've done is a cop out and it's not good enough.

I dunno, David Luiz has just gone for 8M, really can't see you getting 15M for Gayle. Also, you should probably have appended a qualifying adjective to Joselu too :lol:.

That's always the mooted figure and seems relatively achievable given the fees paid for strikers.  But even so, let's call it 8-12m.

We should still be looking to get someone in who is better than Gayle by spending some money.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: samptime29 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:45:54 PM
How and why is Muto being written off as s**** exactly?

Because everyone's f***ing miserable and no matter how much rationality you try to use, it doesn't fit their outlook on life/NUFC/the world?

Can't write Muto off yet, need to see how he performs this season to make a fair judgement.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: nufcjb on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:47:27 PM
wouldn't it just be Newcastle if this doesn't go through at the last minute due to dodgy paperwork
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:50:28 PM
Sky reckon it's confirmed.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:52:35 PM
?s=20

?s=20
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:52:59 PM
It's done being interviewed on Sky now.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:54:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBdYaP7XsAAjZM4?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:54:56 PM
I do like him
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:57:01 PM
I properly hate Bruce's face
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:57:10 PM
https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/magpies-complete-carroll-signing/?fbclid=iwar1na-xegpiw0qicne86bqizcmawdhus_pjpudm3a_ppqfiph6bdb5dyaei
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:57:54 PM
I'm nostalgic. I like this signing. Unfortunately it's also a smart signing in terms of getting more people back against Arsenal.

Anyway, Carroll said he just had started running outside. A bit worrying? :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: The Little Waster on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:58:40 PM
Is this a joke ???
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Haz on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:58:57 PM
Said he's 4 weeks away from match fitness. Christ.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:59:38 PM
Said he's 4 weeks away from match fitness. Christ.

:lol:
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: gdm on Thursday 8 August 2019, 04:59:45 PM
We’ve signed worse strikers over the years
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:00:54 PM
I must admit, this has made me feel something, not much, and not enough to make me interested, but i can see this tempting a lot of on the fence fans to go, it's obvious what Ashley is doing.

Don't give in to it.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Disco on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:01:24 PM
Thank you to Sir Mike Ashley and Sir Steve Bruce for this.

Two finer men you'll never meet. God I wish they were my Dad's.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:01:35 PM
I'm nostalgic. I like this signing. Unfortunately it's also a smart signing in terms of getting more people back against Arsenal.

Anyway, Carroll said he just had started running outside. A bit worrying? :lol:
well he'd have to go through the full preseason basically, probably be "fit" after the international break
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: CFlan on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:01:52 PM
I properly hate Bruce's face

:lol: There’s a lot going on there.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Unbelievable! on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:02:13 PM
Just saw this news. f***ing predictable c***s.
Title: Re: Reports: Andy Carroll set to make triumphant return to NUFC
Post by: Thumbheed on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:02:32 PM
Don't see what's so complicated.  We've lost Perez and Rondon and Joselu.  We replaced them with the unproven Joelinton, a perma-crock Carroll and proven-to-not-be-PL-standard Gayle.  To improve on last season's team, we should, at a bare minimum, be selling Gayle for 15m or so (subsidising his wages, if need be) and buying a quality replacement for the Gayle money plus some of extra funds knocking around.

What we've done is a cop out and it's not good enough.

I dunno, David Luiz has just gone for 8M, really can't see you getting 15M for Gayle. Also, you should probably have appended a qualifying adjective to Joselu too :lol:.

That's always the mooted figure and seems relatively achievable given the fees paid for strikers.  But even so, let's call it 8-12m.

We should still be looking to get someone in who is better than Gayle by spending some money.

Joelinton - Rondon
Perez - Maxim
Almiron
Joselu - Carrol
Muto
Gayle

Not a bad line up to be fair. Anyone proven from a foreign league is unproven in the PL and anyone prem proven is out of our price range so it's kind of a moot point. I dont see too many proven strikers in any league going for £40m.

Joelinton represents a huge gamble by any clubs standards so I can't be mad with the signing in much the same way I wasnt annoyed with the Almiron signing who was equally unproven.

If we were to get a CM I'd of actuslly have been happy with this window up until the point I remembered Steve Bruce was our manager.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:02:32 PM
They're talking some proper embarrassing s**** about this on Sky.

Nolan also reiterating how he was nudging him out of the door towards Liverpool whilst our captain.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: samptime29 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:04:01 PM
Back for Liverpool away.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:04:11 PM
Where's he going to sleep after a night of smashy-smashy without Nolan about?
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: nufcjb on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:04:51 PM
he was in limbo between Spurs and Liverpool? f***.me. thought he didn't want to leave and was forced out.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Lenny on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:05:08 PM
This is in the "in isolation, I'm okay with this", category for me.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: geordiedean on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Did I just hear him say hes just started running outside

f***s sake has this c*** got agoraphobia
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:07:46 PM
So History has probably shown we sold him at the right time*. Is 8 years later the right time to buy him back?


*As in he was never better than when we had him.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: The Little Waster on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:08:25 PM
Said he's 4 weeks away from match fitness. Christ.

Which year ?
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:08:47 PM
 :icon_puke_r:
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:11:46 PM
Look how quickly these c***s can do business when they want to :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: midstoon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:12:20 PM
Seeing that picture of him and Bruce makes you realise what a massive step backwards we have taken.  :blackeye:
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:12:42 PM
Seeing that picture of him and Bruce makes you realise what a massive step backwards we have taken.  :blackeye:

It really does.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: gdm on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:13:36 PM
Look how quickly these c***s can do business when they want to :lol:

What? On a free transfer :lol: you’re just silly man
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Stottie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:13:57 PM
If we're going down memory lane, can someone ask him about the dive when he was clean through against us for Liverpool? He had practically an open goal.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:15:52 PM
Don't see what's so complicated.  We've lost Perez and Rondon and Joselu.  We replaced them with the unproven Joelinton, a perma-crock Carroll and proven-to-not-be-PL-standard Gayle.  To improve on last season's team, we should, at a bare minimum, be selling Gayle for 15m or so (subsidising his wages, if need be) and buying a quality replacement for the Gayle money plus some of extra funds knocking around.

What we've done is a cop out and it's not good enough.

I dunno, David Luiz has just gone for 8M, really can't see you getting 15M for Gayle. Also, you should probably have appended a qualifying adjective to Joselu too :lol:.

That's always the mooted figure and seems relatively achievable given the fees paid for strikers.  But even so, let's call it 8-12m.

We should still be looking to get someone in who is better than Gayle by spending some money.

Joelinton - Rondon
Perez - Maxim
Almiron
Joselu - Carrol
Muto
Gayle

Not a bad line up to be fair. Anyone proven from a foreign league is unproven in the PL and anyone prem proven is out of our price range so it's kind of a moot point. I dont see too many proven strikers in any league going for £40m.

Joelinton represents a huge gamble by any clubs standards so I can't be mad with the signing in much the same way I wasnt annoyed with the Almiron signing who was equally unproven.

If we were to get a CM I'd of actuslly have been happy with this window up until the point I remembered Steve Bruce was our manager.


Yup.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Rafalove on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:17:12 PM
Longstaffs, Colback, Bruce, and now Carroll. Should start calling ourseves the Bilbao of the north.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: gdm on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:21:04 PM
Longstaffs, Colback, Bruce, and now Carroll. Should start calling ourseves the Bilbao of the north.

Don’t forget Dummett
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: nufcjb on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:23:11 PM
If we're going down memory lane, can someone ask him about the dive when he was clean through against us for Liverpool? He had practically an open goal.

I have always wanted to rewatch that match or the highlights of it but can't ever seem to find it. Incident packed and fun match I can remember of till this day.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Rafalove on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:25:19 PM
Longstaffs, Colback, Bruce, and now Carroll. Should start calling ourseves the Bilbao of the north.

Don’t forget Dummett


How did I ever forget?
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:25:39 PM
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Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: OCK on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:27:08 PM
Apathy
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Incognito on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:29:20 PM
Hope he gives Cockblock a good hiding on his way out of the door.
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:29:52 PM
39 goals in 9 years.. yay 

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 ;D
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Fitzgerald on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:31:32 PM
Longstaffs, Colback, Bruce, and now Carroll. Should start calling ourseves the Bilbao of the north.

Don’t forget Dummett

He's "Welsh"  :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Andy Carroll signs on a free
Post by: Hughesy on Thursday 8 August 2019, 05:31:44 PM