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Title: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 18 July 2012, 09:55:10 pm
Not sure how many people ahve seen this but f***ing hell! its amazing

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/black-mirror/4od#3327867 (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/black-mirror/4od#3327867)

1st episode

A twisted parable for the Twitter age, Black Mirror taps into the collective unease about our modern world.

The first episode is a political thriller in which fictional Prime Minister Michael Callow faces a huge and shocking dilemma when Princess Susannah, a much-loved member of the Royal Family, is kidnapped.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: M4 on Wednesday 18 July 2012, 09:57:52 pm
Saw it when it first aired, loved it. Second one especially.

Hopefully more will be on the way at some stage.

Edit: Yay
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18812440 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18812440)
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Wednesday 18 July 2012, 09:59:47 pm
Glad this has a second series, enjoyed aspects of the first and the dinner party episode was superb.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ted Maul on Wednesday 18 July 2012, 10:01:55 pm
Aye it's excellent like, Charlie Brooker just doesn't miss a beat.  Similar to Chris Morris, I'll watch anything he's involved in.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 18 July 2012, 10:02:58 pm
Was discussed in the 'what are you watching' thread at the time.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,64230.msg3372056.html#msg3372056 (http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,64230.msg3372056.html#msg3372056)
http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,64230.msg3385611.html#msg3385611 (http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,64230.msg3385611.html#msg3385611)
http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,64230.msg3398062.html#msg3398062 (http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,64230.msg3398062.html#msg3398062)

First one was gash IMO, other two were very good. :thup:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 18 July 2012, 10:13:03 pm
First one was gash IMO, other two were very good. :thup:

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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 18 July 2012, 10:23:33 pm
No idea how i missed it.  Just seen the 2nd episode
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 11 February 2013, 09:55:38 pm
New episode in 5 minutes on Channel 4 for anyone interested.

This ones looks a bit f***ing weird. :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:05:56 pm
Hayley Atwell, so that'll do me.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:17:45 pm
Watching it now.

Never saw the first series, worth skipping the first episode then?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:20:27 pm
They're all stand-alone episodes so it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:20:40 pm
Nah they're all stand-alone.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:22:59 pm
Sorry, I meant the first episode of the first series.  After reading that it wasn't as good as the other 2 episodes.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:23:59 pm
Sorry, I meant the first episode of the first series.  After reading that it wasn't as good as the other 2 episodes.

It was a bit more comedic than the rest, thought it was decent though.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:46:52 pm
Well. That was a good part.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:49:19 pm
Silvor's done.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:51:14 pm
Were all of those flooding clips from Newcastle? :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:52:17 pm
:lol: suddenly have the appropriate music playing in my head for this image

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljeau2l18C1qcm5cpo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 11 February 2013, 10:53:11 pm
Ooh, it's her off Nathan Barley...
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 11 February 2013, 11:05:50 pm
Well that was pretty strange, glad I watched though. Makes a change from sitting here raging at FIFA at least.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: FrenchWilliam on Monday 11 February 2013, 11:07:00 pm
Was a bit crap really. Everything Charlie Brooker does has the feel of being written by some angsty sixth former.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Cajun on Monday 11 February 2013, 11:09:01 pm
I love Brooker and loved the first 3 but that was a bit weird/boring  :undecided:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 February 2013, 11:10:08 pm
I really liked it, bit formulaic but fairly unsettling, pretty clever and as usual very well made.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: elbee909 on Monday 11 February 2013, 11:13:17 pm
Feels like a modern Tales of the Unexpected.  No bad thing.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 11 February 2013, 11:16:46 pm
I liked it. It's one of those, I don't think you watch it and think "wow what a watch that was, f***ing spectacular", but it was really engaging IMO. Can see why people would think it's a bit s*** and boring, equally.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Cajun on Monday 11 February 2013, 11:18:14 pm
I probably shouldn't have watched it with my netbook open tbf.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: S.S.R. on Tuesday 12 February 2013, 12:03:01 am
Had to be a widow, didn't it? The guy would be be over the moon with his, before ordering another one.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: madras on Tuesday 12 February 2013, 08:00:26 am
not that impressed, given i've only watched last nights, but it just seems like an update on tales of the unexpected and the twilight zone. i'll give it another couple of goes, may well be down to the strength of the story and last nights may not have been that good.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 18 February 2013, 10:36:25 pm
This is good so far, very interesting imo. More of a headfuck than last weeks
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 18 February 2013, 10:44:18 pm
Yeah, definitely more of a headfuck. Interested to see how it ends though.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 18 February 2013, 10:58:33 pm
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, didn't see it ending like that!
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: newsted on Monday 18 February 2013, 10:59:34 pm
:lol: Charlie's got some dark stuff in his head.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:00:24 pm
To be honest, I wasn't too impressed with that about halfway through, thought it was dragging along not going anywhere in particular. But yeah that was a hell of an ending IMO.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:02:14 pm
Somebody tell me in spoiler tags what happened at the end, I don't think I was watching properly. :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:02:40 pm
Could have done with some more of Hayley Atwell getting railed.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:03:24 pm
Could have done with some more of Hayley Atwell getting railed.

Yeah, expectations were high after last week, a definite lack of her this week, that's for sure. 2/10 would not re-watch.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:03:38 pm
Somebody tell me in spoiler tags what happened at the end, I don't think I was watching properly. :lol:

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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:04:19 pm
Somebody tell me in spoiler tags what happened at the end, I don't think I was watching properly. :lol:

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh. :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: newsted on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:05:50 pm
:lol: I've had to take a time out to put my moral compass back where it should be ffs.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:07:47 pm
The other lass reminded me of Serge Pizzorno, for some reason. Must have been her hair and how pale she was :lol:

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRnGs9h7KBQCpSEKHVrLkH161AyyuJmLBdZyugyD-zf2w-3bjJ)
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:09:30 pm
Could have done with some more of Hayley Atwell getting railed.

Yeah, expectations were high after last week, a definite lack of her this week, that's for sure. 2/10 would not re-watch.

:lol: yeah mock my celebrity crush, whatever.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:11:26 pm
Could have done with some more of Hayley Atwell getting railed.

Yeah, expectations were high after last week, a definite lack of her this week, that's for sure. 2/10 would not re-watch.

:lol: yeah mock my celebrity crush, whatever.

She's class. :lol: Just the randomness of somehow incorporating that bit of last week into this week's episode amused me.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:16:10 pm
:lol: look I know what I like and I like what I know, that's all it is.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 18 February 2013, 11:45:16 pm
Brutal was that one. Was grimacing at the tele for the last ten minutes.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: icemanblue on Tuesday 19 February 2013, 09:02:53 am
So, what was it? Some kind of new prison sentence? What's the point, if she doesn't remember the previous days?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: ikri on Tuesday 19 February 2013, 11:11:03 am
So, what was it? Some kind of new prison sentence? What's the point, if she doesn't remember the previous days?

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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: icemanblue on Tuesday 19 February 2013, 11:18:04 am
Hmm. Yeah, sounds about right that. I usually like this stuff, but, I don't know, this episode just didn't do it for me. Good ideas, like. Perhaps I'm just becoming desensitised to this kind of 'shocking' TV. That, and the main lass got on my wick.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 19 February 2013, 12:37:00 pm
I absolutely loved the whole idea, personally - it's my favourite episode of Black Mirror yet. The lass was absolutely tortured by the experience, so much so that she begged to die by the end of it. To have to replay that every single day for the rest of her life is a pretty gruesome idea. There were a lot of nods to Texas Chainsaw in there; humiliation torture n all of that.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: indi on Tuesday 19 February 2013, 08:00:19 pm
Thought last week's was okay, but this one was just a bit s*** really. A reasonably interesting point to make about our increasingly vindictive society and the growing appetite for revenge rather than justice, but as a TV programme that was seriously weak. It seemed like it was only about 15 minutes long and felt like the kind of amateur short you see at local film nights, the acting was poor and it just looked cheap and thrown together. Also, the narrative wasn't good enough to make the concept seem believable. I was just left thinking "Why?"

Why would that be allowed?
Why would they have that whole huge area for one prisoner?
What's the point?
Etc.

Hope the next one is a lot better, because that was rubbish. Channel 4 have made a lot of good drama recently, Secret State, The Fear, Utopia, and so-on, this wasn't even in the same league as that stuff, nowhere near.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 09:51:28 pm
This episode was the first one I didn't like, although the ending was compelling.

Quite a haunting episode, really. Brooker's mind is dark as f***!
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 09:53:53 pm
This episode was the first one I didn't like, although the ending was compelling.

Quite a haunting episode, really. Brooker's mind is dark as f***!

Watched it earlier, extremely dark. I love the  fact you gave no idea what your gonna get from each episode.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: ikri on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 10:26:06 pm
I thought it set up an interesting moral quandary. 
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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Friday 21 October 2016, 03:30:48 pm
There's a new series of this on Netflix.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Saturday 22 October 2016, 12:46:28 am
Anyone watched it yet?? Any good? Just about to dive in...
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: cookidge on Saturday 22 October 2016, 01:32:50 am
I've just binged all of the new series since getting in from work. Knackered but worth it. Hauntingly good, although there are some 'good' endings this time around which is odd. Maybe to try and cater to a wider audience, I don't know.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Bowie on Saturday 22 October 2016, 09:49:55 am
I've atched episode 1 and 3 so far - both absolutely brilliant. I'll watch the rest this weekend.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Saturday 22 October 2016, 11:34:10 am
Aye just finished episode 3 there. Could see it coming but it was still brilliant.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Sunday 23 October 2016, 06:40:23 pm
Finished. Absolutely 5 start tv. Episode 6 better than most movies.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: colinmk on Sunday 23 October 2016, 07:05:34 pm
Watched 1st one of the new series so far, one of worst BMs I've seen. Hope the next couple improve and I'm sure they will!
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Sunday 23 October 2016, 09:05:03 pm
Only watched first episode, was steady but nowt special. Some good ideas but ending was a bit flat. Looking forward to rest though.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 23 October 2016, 10:26:51 pm
Yeah I enjoyed it, thought Bryce Dallas Howard was quality. Didn't entirely get the interaction at the end.

I wasn't expecting it to be set in America.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 23 October 2016, 10:34:40 pm
Done 1&2 now, really enjoyed 2. Not a let down. I was worried it might be! Quality stuff
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: louistoon on Sunday 23 October 2016, 10:46:02 pm
Just watched the first one of season 3. Not seen any of the others but thought it was very good.

Decided to start watching season 1 where the guys demand that the prime minister have sex on national televsion with a pig. My first thought was 'ha that's hillarious' until it occurred to me that this must have been broadcast way before piggate. How prophetic  :lol:


... unless this Ashcroft got the idea from?  ???
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: madras on Sunday 23 October 2016, 10:48:29 pm
Yeah I enjoyed it, thought Bryce Dallas Howard was quality. Didn't entirely get the interaction at the end.

I wasn't expecting it to be set in America.
They were both in the same position, both freed from having to try to please everyone else to get ratings so could literally enjoy saying what they felt like even just for the sake of saying it.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: colinmk on Sunday 23 October 2016, 10:58:32 pm
Ep 2 of new series was a bit of a let down as well for me, better than the first though. Episode 3 however is top notch. I won't say anything imprtant about it but just all round cringey brilliance. A bit black comedy as well which is usually Black Mirror at it's best.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 23 October 2016, 11:24:48 pm
Episode 4 is off its tits. It's as near as you'll get to a modern day Twilight Zone. It's gone from being outstanding to all time classic with the budget upgrade like, it desperately needed this to get there imo.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 23 October 2016, 11:39:28 pm
Yeah I enjoyed it, thought Bryce Dallas Howard was quality. Didn't entirely get the interaction at the end.

I wasn't expecting it to be set in America.
They were both in the same position, both freed from having to try to please everyone else to get ratings so could literally enjoy saying what they felt like even just for the sake of saying it.

:thup: :thup:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: wormy on Sunday 23 October 2016, 11:43:17 pm
Episode 4 is off its tits. It's as near as you'll get to a modern day Twilight Zone. It's gone from being outstanding to all time classic with the budget upgrade like, it desperately needed this to get there imo.

Just turned the TV off after episode 3 to hopefully get some sleep and you're tempting me to turn it back on. :lol:

E1 was a good, if slow, start. Better than E2 at least, which was a bit meh imo. E3 was good and I'm hoping from the above post this is where it picks up even more for the last three episodes.

Need to go back and re-watch from the first series after.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 23 October 2016, 11:47:47 pm
I think with the format the way that it is, you just have to take it on an episode to episode basis like, and it's all about whether the idea resonates with you personally.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: wormy on Monday 24 October 2016, 12:11:14 am
:thup: A fair point.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Monday 24 October 2016, 12:23:35 am
6 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 4 imo, but as said it completely depends on what clicks with you. All at the very least good though.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 24 October 2016, 01:14:23 am
Just finished this.

1. Good ep. Kinda dragged for a bit
2. This was probably my favorite one. It was actually pretty scary.
3. Good ep. Similar to the White Bear one. That kid was a great actor. Was the guy from Game of Thrones in this?
4. Probably my least favorite. Great production and acting, just wasn't really a fan of the romantic storyline. Does anyone know the story behind the guy that kept hitting on the main character and getting shot down? Felt bad for hin.
5. One of the best ones in the series. It was quite chilling.
6. Wish it wasn't as long as it was but I liked the twist. At times it felt like an episode of Law and Order. Annoying chick from Boardwalk Empire was the main character I believe.

15 Million Merrits will always be my favorite. Episode five had an ode to it when the army girl sang the song.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 24 October 2016, 06:12:47 am
started s1e1 last night, no idea whatsoever what it was about

1min in, f***ing hell :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 24 October 2016, 10:01:06 am
Best to start with ep 2. First one was total s*** imo.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Monday 24 October 2016, 10:21:40 am
Was really hoping Dennis Reynolds would make an appearance in episode one
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Monday 24 October 2016, 10:47:59 am
 :lol: perfect.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Monday 24 October 2016, 10:55:43 am
Think the guy in 4
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What's the protocol with spoilers on a Netflix show btw? Obviously too early to be plastering them about, do we usually just wait a few weeks then it's open season or what?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 24 October 2016, 11:16:12 am
Best to start with ep 2. First one was total s*** imo.

too late :lol:

it was f***ing mental that like
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 24 October 2016, 01:43:09 pm
1st episode was meh!

Was that Tom Berenger playing the brides father?



Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Monday 24 October 2016, 01:43:45 pm
Best to start with ep 2. First one was total s*** imo.

As in the pig episode?  It's great.  :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 24 October 2016, 01:47:51 pm
Best to start with ep 2. First one was total s*** imo.

As in the pig episode?  It's great.  :lol:

that one aye, what a f***ing way to open a show
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Monday 24 October 2016, 01:48:40 pm
Best to start with ep 2. First one was total s*** imo.

As in the pig episode?  It's great.  :lol:

that one aye, what a f***ing way to open a show

:lol:  Must be weird seeing it for the first time after David Cameron happened.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 24 October 2016, 01:54:44 pm
Best to start with ep 2. First one was total s*** imo.

As in the pig episode?  It's great.  :lol:

that one aye, what a f***ing way to open a show

:lol:  Must be weird seeing it for the first time after David Cameron happened.

absolutely mental, i had no idea
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Monday 24 October 2016, 02:18:08 pm
Can't recommend enough inside no 9 btw if you like this kind of thing. Some misses but it's like a lighter more comedic 30 minute version of this.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 24 October 2016, 02:20:51 pm
Eh, how are they alike?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Monday 24 October 2016, 02:31:38 pm
Anthology shows with darkness, humour and twists. Isn't that obvious? What a strange question.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 24 October 2016, 02:41:39 pm
Can't recommend enough inside no 9 btw if you like this kind of thing. Some misses but it's like a lighter more comedic 30 minute version of this.

'The Last Breath' I think that was it's name was simply brilliant.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 24 October 2016, 02:56:59 pm
Anthology shows with darkness, humour and twists. Isn't that obvious? What a strange question.

I'm a big fan of both and have never thought they were very similar whatsoever tbh.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Monday 24 October 2016, 09:18:37 pm
First couple of episodes were okay, but kind of felt like it was running through the motions, felt a bit safe.  3 and 4 were both brilliant though, two of the best episodes of the show so far.

Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: colinmk on Monday 24 October 2016, 09:37:27 pm
First couple of episodes were okay, but kind of felt like it was running through the motions, felt a bit safe.  3 and 4 were both brilliant though, two of the best episodes of the show so far.



 :thup: Pretty much my thoughts, 4 was class, expertly put together and liked how it played with the cheese factor for a laugh. 3 was probably my favourite and I love Black Mirror when it has that bit of black comedy. For this type of TV it always helps I think. 1 was just pretty s**** imo, 2 looking back not great at all either. Looking forward to the next two.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Monday 24 October 2016, 10:05:14 pm
Loved 3 & 4. Beauty of this is you don't know what each episode holds. Each one is unique. Hope he makes another 50 more
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 04:44:17 pm
They didn't really have a complete narrative to go with the premise in episode 2.  Definite lack of closure by the end.

Episode 1 was a rip of a Community episode.

Onto episode 3 now. You guys better be right!
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 04:45:34 pm
I'm pretty sure episode 1 was a rip of a previous Black Mirror episode actually. Didn't they do that whole thing before? Mad that it was written by Rashida Jones as well.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 04:48:16 pm
Erm, if you were this kid, you'd just phone the f***ing police.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 04:50:28 pm
Erm, if you were this kid, you'd just phone the f***ing police.

Episode 3? You might think different at the end.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 04:53:45 pm
Yeah, but that's with hindsight - whatever it is, I'm only halfway through.   Some c*** starts emailing me threats and has hacked my web cam, I'm calling the police.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 04:55:48 pm
Not impressed by the first four episodes. Slightly bored by them if I'm honest. Can't stop now though.

Disappointed because the first 2 series shone brightly.

Maybe I expected too much.

Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 04:57:51 pm
Yeah, but that's with hindsight - whatever it is, I'm only halfway through.   Some c*** starts emailing me threats and has hacked my web cam, I'm calling the police.

#wait
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 05:22:47 pm
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/c/ce/1282140592.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20150406141520)

I see.

Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 10:26:26 pm
Thought episode 5 was really good too.

Seems very America-centric so far.  Only two episodes set in Britain so far, and one of those had an American lead.  Was this something Netflix insisted on to try and appeal to a wider market?  As good as it's been, I can't help but feel it's losing its identity a little bit.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Tuesday 25 October 2016, 10:43:48 pm
The guy being American in the second one was central to the story, though.

There are three set in England. The fourth one has an English lead. The fifth makes sense being American as they're always getting into wars. 

IMO it didn't lose anything. I thought it would prior to watching, but the show had the same look and feel to the previous seasons.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 12:06:26 am
The guy being American in the second one was central to the story, though.

There are three set in England. The fourth one has an English lead. The fifth makes sense being American as they're always getting into wars. 

IMO it didn't lose anything. I thought it would prior to watching, but the show had the same look and feel to the previous seasons.

I'm 100% certain that wasn't the reasoning behind it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 12:34:05 am
Erm, if you were this kid, you'd just phone the f***ing police.

Episode 3? You might think different at the end.
Blimey that was a journey. Didn't know where that was going.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 01:32:14 am
This whole show is one of the very best things on TV IMO. Stark, surprising, charming, hopeful, grim, funny and far too real for comfort.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 04:26:18 am
The guy being American in the second one was central to the story, though.

There are three set in England. The fourth one has an English lead. The fifth makes sense being American as they're always getting into wars. 

IMO it didn't lose anything. I thought it would prior to watching, but the show had the same look and feel to the previous seasons.


I'm 100% certain that wasn't the reasoning behind it.  :lol:

I know but doesn't it feel right with the US Army?  :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 04:41:26 am
6 was the best of the bunch . We're people really disappointed?? I thought the whole thing was excellent and unique- have recommended to many but if people arnt liking it will feel like a tit now
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 08:40:05 am
watched 2 & 3 of S1, decent enough but not incredible TV so far

the 3rd ep was the best of the bunch imo
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 09:49:47 am
Erm, if you were this kid, you'd just phone the f***ing police.

Episode 3? You might think different at the end.
Blimey that was a journey. Didn't know where that was going.

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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 11:06:00 am
Episode 6. :sweetjesus:

Fasted 90 minutes of TV I've watched in a long time. After a quick look at IMDB too I noticed the actress who played the blonde detective also played The Waif in Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 11:07:55 am
One of the few Netflix shows I've not binged. Gonna do episode 4 today. Feel like each episode needs a bit of room to breathe.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Wednesday 26 October 2016, 12:09:46 pm
Episode 6. :sweetjesus:

Fasted 90 minutes of TV I've watched in a long time. After a quick look at IMDB too I noticed the actress who played the blonde detective also played The Waif in Game of Thrones.

She's from borough.i feel like I know her sir some reason and upon checking we are the same age
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 28 October 2016, 12:29:30 pm
Only watched episodes 1-3 so far, liked the first 2 without finding them outstanding and episode 3 was tense as f***.

Exit Music For A Film at the end of ep 3 was perfect as well, what a moment that was.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Friday 28 October 2016, 02:43:46 pm
Going to watch six tonight. 4 was very good 5 was OK just didn't hook me for some reason despite idea being very good.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: colinmk on Friday 28 October 2016, 10:08:22 pm
Thought 5 was really good. Best American one. Good balance between story and style. Not like the first two which were just so weak. Just started 6,  Kelly Macdonald.  :smitten: :rose: :smitten:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Friday 28 October 2016, 10:17:58 pm
6 was brilliant, best of the bunch.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: colinmk on Friday 28 October 2016, 11:39:02 pm
6 was good but not great, thought the story was potentially the best of the bunch(although the end puzzled me) but let down by some wooden acting and too dragged out. Bloody Bmw advertising can do one too. Episodes 3/4/5/6 you can easily relate to our own every day stuff which just makes it all the more relevant.

My ratings: Ep 1: 3 / Ep 2: 4 / Ep 3: 8.5 / Ep 4: 8 / Ep 5: 8.5 / Ep 6 : 6.5

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I think the whole series has confirmed for me that Brooker's writing style usually works best when it's put across in such a way where it's serious but not too serious. The black comedy in Ep 3 was outstanding. When it gets proper serious sometimes it works and sometimes it's just ok.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 29 October 2016, 06:58:49 am
s2e1 be right back was alright
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 29 October 2016, 11:49:50 am
Somebody watched Under the Skin before going to work on the soundtrack for episode 6. [emoji38]
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 29 October 2016, 11:54:38 am
I have to admit that I really don't like the whole technophobe showing up the technophile because they're a know it all geek who don't live in the real world, in that whole 'Mister Scientist!' South Park way. It's a bit cheap imo, and a bit of an odd thing to come from Charlie Brooker.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 29 October 2016, 11:55:36 am
Also, not one single person has anything on silent/vibrate in the whole 3 series. f***ing pricks.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: colinmk on Saturday 29 October 2016, 04:11:41 pm
Somebody watched Under the Skin before going to work on the soundtrack for episode 6. [emoji38]

Yep was a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 31 October 2016, 09:13:50 am
Watched all of these now, really good without bowling me over.  Preferred 3 and 6 to the others but they all had good elements.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 31 October 2016, 09:15:26 am
watched white bear s2e2, canny good perhaps the best so far
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Monday 31 October 2016, 11:07:14 am
Finished 6, very good. Benefited from the extra time. More please.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 October 2016, 01:53:01 pm
I think I must be the only one who didn't enjoy 6. 4's been the stand out one for me so far.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 31 October 2016, 02:00:32 pm
I wasn't keen on 4, once the reveal came the concept was pretty cool but it wasn't worth the half hour of weird cheese that preceded it.

3 was my fave, actually made my heart thump a bit as the pressure on the characters was relentless.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Monday 31 October 2016, 02:16:59 pm
I loved episode 4. It was probably my favourite of the lot.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Monday 31 October 2016, 03:46:33 pm
I wasn't keen on 4, once the reveal came the concept was pretty cool but it wasn't worth the half hour of weird cheese that preceded it.

3 was my fave, actually made my heart thump a bit as the pressure on the characters was relentless.

The thing is it's Black Mirror, you know there's a reveal or something coming.  It was never just going to be some 80s romance story.  I enjoyed trying to figure out what it was.

1 and 2 were just okay, felt like Black Mirror by numbers a bit (still better than that Waldo one though).  3-6 were as good as they've done.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 1 November 2016, 02:17:39 am
Wonder why she was called Yorkie.

Absolutely brilliant stuff, this series. 3 is my favourite so far.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Tuesday 1 November 2016, 02:25:17 am
The Christmas special was great like
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 1 November 2016, 12:43:21 pm
Watched 1-4 and my Fav is ep4
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 1 November 2016, 01:10:25 pm
I wasn't keen on 4, once the reveal came the concept was pretty cool but it wasn't worth the half hour of weird cheese that preceded it.

3 was my fave, actually made my heart thump a bit as the pressure on the characters was relentless.

It was probably the cheese that did it for me tbh. The soundtrack carried it a lot of the way, I was canny happy just listening to it.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 1 November 2016, 09:02:42 pm
I wasn't keen on 4, once the reveal came the concept was pretty cool but it wasn't worth the half hour of weird cheese that preceded it.

3 was my fave, actually made my heart thump a bit as the pressure on the characters was relentless.

It was probably the cheese that did it for me tbh. The soundtrack carried it a lot of the way, I was canny happy just listening to it.

Yup
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Tuesday 1 November 2016, 09:32:05 pm
I wasn't keen on 4, once the reveal came the concept was pretty cool but it wasn't worth the half hour of weird cheese that preceded it.

3 was my fave, actually made my heart thump a bit as the pressure on the characters was relentless.

Felt the same as you regarding both episodes.

I didn't like Yorkie in the fourth one. She got everything she wanted(apart from death) and didn't come off as a nice person. For instance the way she treated the guy with glasses.

More could have been done with that concept. I started thinking of a new plot half way through it as I was so bored of the existing one.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 1 November 2016, 10:54:20 pm
Watching the first episode of the new series, very clever as usual.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 6 November 2016, 09:18:15 pm
Got through a couple more, it really is brilliant.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: James on Monday 7 November 2016, 07:27:05 am
Really enjoyed this.

Would say though that whilst the script writing is good, Brooker is often a sort of reverse M Night Shalyman in that there is usually a clue about what will happen in the first ten mins and it started to make a number of episodes predictable.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 7 November 2016, 08:42:39 am
i reckon one of these episodes got to me on a subconscious level the other day :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Monday 7 November 2016, 09:22:45 am
Really enjoyed this.

Would say though that whilst the script writing is good, Brooker is often a sort of reverse M Night Shalyman in that there is usually a clue about what will happen in the first ten mins and it started to make a number of episodes predictable.

I think it is deliberately a bit obvious in that traditional retro weird story style. Hard to explain what I mean, but in the same way something like Outer Limits used to work. Makes sure the message hits home fully, and also gives it an exaggerated twisted feeling. Possibly bollocks but that's my feeling!
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Monday 7 November 2016, 07:24:03 pm
It's not really a show with twists either, which is Shyamalamalan's trademark.  This series, apart from maybe episode three, there's not been a big revelation at the end which changes everything.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Monday 7 November 2016, 09:49:46 pm
Agreed, if there is a twist they don't treat you like idiots and reveal it halfway through. And they never feel forced, they always make sense,  unlike some movies where it gets to the end and they suddenly change everything with no prior clues, just for the attempted shock value.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 9 November 2016, 12:56:44 am
Think the webcam one or the bees one were my favourites, absolutely class!
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 9 November 2016, 05:58:58 am
watched white christmas, was a bit obvious at a certain point what was going on but what i like about these things is the ideas within them...the blocking thing is f***ing mental :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 9 November 2016, 10:41:03 am
Anyone watch it last night?  Scariest one yet.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Wednesday 9 November 2016, 11:30:47 pm
Bit farfetched tbh
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 9 November 2016, 11:37:18 pm
Shut up and dance.  WOW!
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Marmoset on Wednesday 9 November 2016, 11:42:16 pm
Shut up and dance.  WOW!

Yep, top 2 of the series for me. Didn't get the twist at all and spent the whole episode talking about how crazy it was that he'd do all of this just because of a wanking video, even said it was just completely unbelievable at the robbery stage :lol:

Mugged me right off.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 10 November 2016, 12:54:50 am
Yeah, I was just thinking "Everyone has a sex tape these days, it's really no biggie" :lol:

Finally got round to this tonight and binged the first 3 episodes. I liked 1, something was missing with 2 but 3 was outstanding. It really got to me. Can't wait for the other three.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 14 November 2016, 01:33:18 am
Just watched #4 and spent most of it confused and not enjoying it. And when I started to figure it out by the end I was still in awe of the concept, even though it was my least favourite.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Slim on Monday 14 November 2016, 09:29:51 pm
Just watched #4 and spent most of it confused and not enjoying it. And when I started to figure it out by the end I was still in awe of the concept, even though it was my least favourite.

Wait till 5
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 15 November 2016, 11:37:05 am
Is 6 the last one?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Odear on Tuesday 15 November 2016, 11:40:36 am
Is 6 the last one?

The bees? yeah that was the lot.. such a tremendous series.. i did like the lesbian member berries episode a lot but i think overall episode 1 of season 1 will never be topped
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 15 November 2016, 11:41:21 am
I haven't seen most of the first two series. They're starting to look like a pleasant portrayal of a nicer reality.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 15 November 2016, 08:23:58 pm
I haven't seen most of the first two series. They're starting to look like a pleasant portrayal of a nicer reality.
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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: madras on Wednesday 16 November 2016, 01:21:32 am
The last one the weakest for me. More X-files than twilight zone if you get my drift.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Friday 18 November 2016, 12:19:51 am
Just watched #4 and spent most of it confused and not enjoying it. And when I started to figure it out by the end I was still in awe of the concept, even though it was my least favourite.

Wait till 5

You were right. It bored me to tears, then I admit it became background noise - so it might've picked up. I dunno.

Excited for #6 though.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: madras on Friday 18 November 2016, 12:21:50 am
Just watched #4 and spent most of it confused and not enjoying it. And when I started to figure it out by the end I was still in awe of the concept, even though it was my least favourite.

Wait till 5

You were right. It bored me to tears, then I admit it became background noise - so it might've picked up. I dunno.

Excited for #6 though.
Which was 5 again ? (I'm old)
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Friday 18 November 2016, 12:29:41 am
The army one, where they fought rodents. I guess the beauty of the standalone format is that we all have favourites, but army stuff isn't my thing.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: madras on Friday 18 November 2016, 12:36:34 am
I liked that one, wasn't keen on the game trial one. It's very twilight zoneish, which I've always loved.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Friday 2 December 2016, 02:21:08 am
Finally watched number 6  :sweetjesus:

That and 3 were my favourites, with 1 and 4 strong as well. Such a class series.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Friday 2 December 2016, 05:34:43 am
Ep six of season 3? Wack ass episode. Get that irish chick off boardwalk ep the f*** off my tv.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Friday 2 December 2016, 04:23:19 pm
She's Scottish. :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Sunday 4 December 2016, 01:12:43 am
Same s***.  :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 4 December 2016, 02:58:45 am
Seen a few recent promotional appearances where he's been acting like a bit of a prick, if I'm honest.

He's always been surly and brusque but it was like they turned him up to 11. I've always liked him but I don't think he's done enough to justify being a prick to fans.

Watching 3% today brought home to me just how little Brooker has actually done. Sure his ideas are wonderful and plentiful, but has he ever really turned anything into a complete story? Every episode seems like a pilot of something with bags of potential but never gets taken up.

My first opinion of 3% was "this has Black Mirror written all over it". But it is nigh on 8 hrs long.They have taken an idea and turned it into an engaging story. Sure it's sloppy at times, but overall it's a fine work.

Take episode 3 of BM. It was a frightening concept with a dark twist, but I really didn't give enough of a s*** about any character to care what happened by the end.

I'm not writing him off, I just wonder if he has the discipline to choose an idea and take it all the way. Episode 6 suggests he might be willing to give it a go so here's hoping.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: cookidge on Monday 12 December 2016, 05:17:27 pm
Friend of mine says another six are up on Netflix. I haven't checked yet though.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Wullie on Monday 12 December 2016, 05:19:55 pm
Friend of mine says another six are up on Netflix. I haven't checked yet though.

Not as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Monday 12 December 2016, 06:01:31 pm
He probably means the new season.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: cookidge on Tuesday 13 December 2016, 09:54:21 am
That's a pet hate of mine.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 25 August 2017, 03:01:15 pm
https://youtu.be/oH85obU350E
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Friday 25 August 2017, 03:17:12 pm
Man, they all look so good.  :fwap:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Friday 25 August 2017, 08:19:52 pm
Ooh wasn't expecting more so quickly.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Friday 29 December 2017, 09:05:38 pm
New season on Netflix.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Sima on Friday 29 December 2017, 09:07:32 pm
Four episodes in and Crocodile has been my favourite so far.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Friday 29 December 2017, 09:11:20 pm
Ark angel was good, the first one was utter s***
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 29 December 2017, 09:52:24 pm
Watched USS Callister, really enjoyed it, a very good start to this season.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Friday 29 December 2017, 10:08:19 pm
Dunno how Todd aged 20 years in 2.

:lol: First ep is wild as f***. McPoyle acting his ass off.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Friday 29 December 2017, 11:19:29 pm
Ark angel was good, the first one was utter s***

:lol: You think so? Thought that was f***ing great.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Friday 29 December 2017, 11:52:38 pm
Is the standard as high as previously?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Friday 29 December 2017, 11:54:39 pm
Crocodile I'm 20 minutes in and is class so far, I think I just didn't like the first as I'm not a massive Star Trek fan
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Friday 29 December 2017, 11:57:55 pm
Dunno how Todd aged 20 years in 2.

:lol: First ep is wild as f***. McPoyle acting his ass off.

He ruined Westworld for me, all I saw was this.



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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Saturday 30 December 2017, 01:04:47 am
:lol: White Bear is some Running Man s***.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Saturday 30 December 2017, 01:16:45 am
:lol: White Bear is some Running Man s***.

That's season 2. You got it on shuffle?  :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Saturday 30 December 2017, 01:43:44 am
:lol: White Bear is some Running Man s***.

That's season 2. You got it on shuffle?  :lol:

:lol: Was just hopping around, really.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Saturday 30 December 2017, 01:55:49 am
Hang the dj class loved it
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: shakey jake on Saturday 30 December 2017, 01:57:46 am
Gonna start this tomorrow. Whats everyone's favourite episode ever? The Entire History Of You is mine
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Beren on Saturday 30 December 2017, 03:40:56 am
Continually amazed at the budget for this show tbh.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Saturday 30 December 2017, 11:32:35 am
Watched my first episode of the new series there (Hang the DJ). Excellent as always.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: M4 on Saturday 30 December 2017, 12:12:03 pm
Crocodile I'm 20 minutes in and is class so far, I think I just didn't like the first as I'm not a massive Star Trek fan

Never been a Star Trek watcher but liked it. This one just seems to have split the opinions so far.

Watched a couple last night, can't wait to watch some more.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Darth Crooks on Saturday 30 December 2017, 12:22:21 pm
Be right back was clever and I enjoyed hated in the nation last season. Even the worst ones are good. I liked how they didn't try to creep the f*** out of everyone for once with San junipero.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: RodneyCisse on Saturday 30 December 2017, 12:37:21 pm
Enjoyed mcpoyle in the first episode.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ginola on Saturday 30 December 2017, 12:43:10 pm
Callister was decent but not amazing, Ark Angel and Crocodile were both brilliant
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: shakey jake on Saturday 30 December 2017, 01:06:38 pm
San Junipero is one of the best pieces of television I’ve ever seen. White Christmas too man, that s*** is dark
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Saturday 30 December 2017, 05:24:45 pm
Can't see past Meth Damon in episode one.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: RodneyCisse on Saturday 30 December 2017, 05:30:07 pm
Can't see past Meth Damon in episode one.

 :lol: so many times
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 30 December 2017, 11:20:56 pm
Just watched episode 1, the Callister thing; thought it was f***ing excellent.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Beren on Saturday 30 December 2017, 11:36:51 pm
Yeah, that was probably my favourite of the season.

Girl from Hang the DJ was gorgeous.

Sequence of events in Crocodile were obscene/daft.

Enjoyed Arkangel and Black Museum too. Dog episode was meh.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Sunday 31 December 2017, 12:37:09 am
Think the one with John Hamm is my favorite so far. Authentic Twilight Zone stuff. Oona Chaplin is f***ing unbelievable.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Sunday 31 December 2017, 12:58:14 am
:lol: Watching this pig f***ing thing.

Charlie Brooker absolutely despises social media.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 31 December 2017, 01:02:05 am
White Christmas is the only one I still haven't seen actually (aside from the rest of this series).

Just watched episode 2, Arkangel... thought it was okay but every moment was telegraphed way before it actually happened.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Sunday 31 December 2017, 10:20:53 am
:lol: Watching this pig f***ing thing.

Charlie Brooker absolutely despises social media.

You ever see his Wipe show?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 31 December 2017, 03:52:23 pm
White Christmas is the only one I still haven't seen actually (aside from the rest of this series).

It's the best of the lot, IMO. However it uses similar tech/ideas to what is in USS Callister. So you might not enjoy it as much after seeing that first.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Sunday 31 December 2017, 05:04:02 pm
White Christmas is the only one I still haven't seen actually (aside from the rest of this series).

It's the best of the lot, IMO. However it uses similar tech/ideas to what is in USS Callister. So you might not enjoy it as much after seeing that first.

Callister was the first ep I'd ever seen and I'm still with you re: White Christmas being the best one.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Sunday 31 December 2017, 07:55:44 pm
Methtain Kirk is brilliant casting.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: cubaricho on Sunday 31 December 2017, 08:27:51 pm
Think the one with John Hamm is my favorite so far. Authentic Twilight Zone stuff. Oona Chaplin is f***ing unbelievable.

Which episode is this then? I'm a hugggeee Twilight Zone fan and people keep trying to get me to watch Black Mirror as they say it's the modern version. If there's an episode that's going to hook me it'll be one that feels like classic TZ.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Troll on Sunday 31 December 2017, 08:28:17 pm
Think the one with John Hamm is my favorite so far. Authentic Twilight Zone stuff. Oona Chaplin is f***ing unbelievable.

Which episode is this then? I'm a hugggeee Twilight Zone fan and people keep trying to get me to watch Black Mirror as they say it's the modern version. If there's an episode that's going to hook me it'll be one that feels like classic TZ.

The Christmas one.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Sima on Sunday 31 December 2017, 08:43:50 pm
White Christmas.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Sunday 31 December 2017, 08:54:38 pm
Think the one with John Hamm is my favorite so far. Authentic Twilight Zone stuff. Oona Chaplin is f***ing unbelievable.

Which episode is this then? I'm a hugggeee Twilight Zone fan and people keep trying to get me to watch Black Mirror as they say it's the modern version. If there's an episode that's going to hook me it'll be one that feels like classic TZ.

:lol: Zone is my s***, too, tbh. I'm confident enough to vouch for it, Cuba. If it was 50 years back Hamm's character would have been played by Burgess Meredith.

fwiw, there hasn't been a single bad episode yet.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: cubaricho on Sunday 31 December 2017, 09:16:22 pm
Think the one with John Hamm is my favorite so far. Authentic Twilight Zone stuff. Oona Chaplin is f***ing unbelievable.

Which episode is this then? I'm a hugggeee Twilight Zone fan and people keep trying to get me to watch Black Mirror as they say it's the modern version. If there's an episode that's going to hook me it'll be one that feels like classic TZ.

:lol: Zone is my s***, too, tbh. I'm confident enough to vouch for it, Cuba. If it was 50 years back Hamm's character would have been played by Burgess Meredith.

fwiw, there hasn't been a single bad episode yet.

:thup:

Might get into it here in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Sunday 31 December 2017, 09:19:48 pm
Callister was exceptional. Really enjoyed it, gonna go through some more tomorrow. The show definitely seems to be growing nicely on Netflix. Feel like I'm gonna rewatch a few of the great episodes after this series. 
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ginola on Monday 1 January 2018, 10:11:13 am
Hang the DJ was great, as was the last episode. The dog one was pretty average.

White Christmas is probably the best piece of TV going.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 1 January 2018, 10:56:58 am
f*** crocodile was dark
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Post by: Si on Monday 1 January 2018, 12:46:20 pm
Arkangel was solid but unsurprising, enjoyed the journey though.
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Post by: Anon on Monday 1 January 2018, 01:41:22 pm
Just having this discussion with my missus, reckon the quality was more consistent but the overall quality not quite as good as previous series' which is a win in my eyes.
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Post by: Yorkie on Monday 1 January 2018, 02:09:23 pm
Thought Hang The DJ was tremendous. The best of all the 'love/relationships'-centric Black Mirror episodes.
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Post by: Mike on Monday 1 January 2018, 05:54:23 pm
Watching the roach hunt episode. I feel like these are supposed to be American accents, but....

Roach ep wasn't great.

:lol: American accents in the Most hated ep are shocking as well.
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Post by: Si on Monday 1 January 2018, 08:13:24 pm
Crocodile & Hang The DJ were great but f*** man can any other show produce two such tonaly different hours of tv.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 1 January 2018, 09:22:46 pm
Watching the roach hunt episode. I feel like these are supposed to be American accents, but....

Roach ep wasn't great.

:lol: American accents in the Most hated ep are shocking as well.

After watching 3 men and a little lady yesterday then we're even.
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Post by: Troll on Monday 1 January 2018, 09:37:41 pm
Metalhead was rubbish.
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Post by: Slim on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 01:17:47 pm
Metalhead was rubbish.

Compared to what? Would say compared to most TV it was very good.
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Post by: Si on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 01:29:42 pm
I quite enjoyed it for what it was. Just would have liked a bit of backstory, but that's not what the episode was trying to do.
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Post by: kingkerouac on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 01:42:11 pm
Four episodes in and Crocodile has been my favourite so far.

Local lass Andrea Riseborough 'n all.
Really like all 6. Top quality TV.
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Post by: Troll on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 06:05:55 pm
Metalhead was rubbish.

Compared to what? Would say compared to most TV it was very good.

I just didn't enjoy it at all.

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Post by: Troll on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 06:06:46 pm
Watching the roach hunt episode. I feel like these are supposed to be American accents, but....

Roach ep wasn't great.

:lol: American accents in the Most hated ep are shocking as well.

Payback for Don Cheadle.
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Post by: Mike on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 06:11:09 pm
Watching the roach hunt episode. I feel like these are supposed to be American accents, but....

Roach ep wasn't great.

:lol: American accents in the Most hated ep are shocking as well.

Payback for Don Cheadle.

:lol: Don Cheadle sounds like you sound. Y'all can't hear yourselves.
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Post by: Troll on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 06:38:52 pm
Watching the roach hunt episode. I feel like these are supposed to be American accents, but....

Roach ep wasn't great.

:lol: American accents in the Most hated ep are shocking as well.

Payback for Don Cheadle.

:lol: Don Cheadle sounds like you sound. Y'all can't hear yourselves.

:lol:  I got schooled by Alexa earlier.  Asked it to play Ashes to Ashes and it told me it couldn't find "Hamsters in my Shoes".
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 07:13:14 pm
The problem this has is in going from a 3 ep format to 6. Brooker must feel pressured to come up with variations on the shows central theme. Enjoyed it all so far mind. Hang the DJ was superb.
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Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 10:23:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbMtuJ1tZnc
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 2 January 2018, 11:32:08 pm
Just watched Arkangel and wasn't that impressed tbh, I kept waiting for it to go up a level. Callister was ok.
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Post by: ste_ne24 on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 12:31:24 am
i knew i recognised the fella from Arkangel. wasn't expecting it to be the kid from the start of die hard with a vengeance  :lol:
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Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 12:46:27 am
i knew i recognised the fella from Arkangel. wasn't expecting it to be the kid from the start of die hard with a vengeance  :lol:

Eh? Who's this?
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Post by: ste_ne24 on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 09:15:52 am
in the shop at the beginning with Samuel L Jackson.
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Post by: ste_ne24 on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 09:26:06 am
sorry, my bad. it was black museum not arkangel.
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Post by: Decky on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 11:09:17 am
Haven't seen all the new episodes yet but seen Arkangel, Crocodile, Hang the DJ and Black Museum.

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Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 11:34:34 am
Haven't seen all the new episodes yet but seen Arkangel, Crocodile, Hang the DJ and Black Museum.

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The machine in Black Museum with the lollipop is from the Callister episode.
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Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 11:39:47 am
https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/tv/karl-pilkington-predicted-black-mirror/339376
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Post by: Decky on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 06:27:01 pm
Haven't seen all the new episodes yet but seen Arkangel, Crocodile, Hang the DJ and Black Museum.

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The machine in Black Museum with the lollipop is from the Callister episode.
Forgot the bath from Crocodile was there as well.
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Post by: Doctor Zaius on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 06:33:26 pm
Just watched Arkangel and wasn't that impressed tbh, I kept waiting for it to go up a level. Callister was ok.

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Post by: Astroblack on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 08:15:06 pm
Didn't like Crocodile at all.
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Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 09:14:01 pm
Andrea Riseborough's accent in it is terrible. I think she's trying to put on a scouse one but the Geordie is obvious throughout. Daft Tory cow.
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 10:45:19 pm
Ooooft, I hated Crocodile. Will have to watch the next one just to take away the bad taste.
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Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 3 January 2018, 11:19:30 pm
Best thing about Crocodile is the landscapes and architecture. Some delicious eye candy. In terms of plot it's been one of the weaker BM episodes.
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Post by: M4 on Thursday 4 January 2018, 12:24:10 am
Black Museum was such a damp squib of an end to the series, real shame. As the episode and stories went on, it was very much a case of diminishing returns. I'm not very keen on the whole interconnectivity idea either.

I need to rewatch series 3. Went through it quickly at the time, but thinking back and talking about the episodes with family over the holidays has reminded me that there's quite a few gems there. The Playtest, the blackmail one, the roaches and San Junipero... All class.

Hang The DJ, definitely my favourite for series 4. If only for the payoff, loved it.
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Post by: Mike on Thursday 4 January 2018, 12:40:33 am
Enjoyed Crocodile. Your accents are all the same to me so I didn't notice anything about that.
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Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 4 January 2018, 01:06:43 am
Black Museum was such a damp squib of an end to the series, real shame. As the episode and stories went on, it was very much a case of diminishing returns. I'm not very keen on the whole interconnectivity idea either.

It felt like a little too much with some of the tech towards the end, and I agree I'm not huge on these fan service Easter Eggs as it puts a lot of previous episodes together into the same universe. To me I saw each episode as a totally separate entity so personally find that a little disappointing, but it seems the way most of these things go now once they get a fanbase. Including lots of self referential wink-wink stuff.

However, I still enjoyed the episode. Rolo Haynes is probably my favourite character from the entire show. They absolutely nailed the archetypal snake oil salesman, and his storytelling is really brilliant.
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 4 January 2018, 08:52:02 pm
I managed to get through Metalhead, somehow. Personal opinion etc, but I found that incredibly boring.
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Post by: shakey jake on Thursday 4 January 2018, 11:48:48 pm
Thought Callister was brilliant. Arkangel was basically “Entire History of You part 2” I think they could’ve done more with it.

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Post by: Ndegwa on Friday 5 January 2018, 12:10:37 am
Enjoyed Crocodile. Your accents are all the same to me so I didn't notice anything about that.

Serious question - do UK accents all sound the same to you?!
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 5 January 2018, 12:35:32 am
Thought Callister was brilliant. Arkangel was basically “Entire History of You part 2” I think they could’ve done more with it.

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Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 5 January 2018, 12:37:31 am
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Post by: Mike on Friday 5 January 2018, 12:38:56 am
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Post by: shakey jake on Friday 5 January 2018, 11:37:01 pm
Metalhead was naff, was there some hidden meaning I’m totally not getting?
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Post by: M4 on Saturday 6 January 2018, 12:56:47 am
I enjoyed the ride in Metalhead. But can't see it having much need for a second viewing.

There wasn't much layering to it, just "oh this is what happens here".
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Post by: Mike on Saturday 6 January 2018, 02:18:41 am
Enjoyed Crocodile. Your accents are all the same to me so I didn't notice anything about that.

Serious question - do UK accents all sound the same to you?!

:lol: I'm hardly an authority on them, tbf. But yeah. London I can hear, and then the rest I end up thinking are all Geordie.

Callister aside, as far as my binge watch is going, the latest season is the weakest so far.
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Post by: Ndegwa on Saturday 6 January 2018, 03:11:03 am
Enjoyed Crocodile. Your accents are all the same to me so I didn't notice anything about that.

Serious question - do UK accents all sound the same to you?!

:lol: I'm hardly an authority on them, tbf. But yeah. London I can hear, and then the rest I end up thinking are all Geordie.

Callister aside, as far as my binge watch is going, the latest season is the weakest so far.

Fair play  :lol:

Yeah, not enjoyed this season at all.
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Post by: Mike on Saturday 6 January 2018, 04:43:30 am
:lol: Nah this robot dog is mean as f***.
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Post by: Mike on Saturday 6 January 2018, 06:16:53 am
Black Museum was fantastic. :thup:
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Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 6 January 2018, 09:38:10 am
Has taken me a while to get around to this but USS Callister was a cracking start.

Cristin Milioti :sweetjesus:
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 6 January 2018, 12:01:34 pm
A couple of good episodes but they're still far below the greatest. And at least 2 actively bad ones, which is a shame.
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Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 7 January 2018, 01:31:50 pm
Just done the last two this morning and I think the whole series, from start to finish, was fantastic. Callister was a cut above, mind, nothing topped that - but I loved all of them aside from probably Arkangel. I enjoyed the ride in that but you could see what was coming every single step of the way.

Of the two that seem to have got the most criticism in this thread; I thought Metalhead was great fun. It was clear very early on that there wasn't any sort of 'profound message' or allegory (not that BM is ever that profound, imo, it's just an entertaining and bleak distopian view of the relatable world, like the majority of other great sci-fi). The dogs were scary s*** and I enjoyed the chase. If there was any criticism, the hopelessness of the finale after such a great chase felt a bit needless. But that's BM for you.

Black Museum was good, too, if a little all-over-the-place. Was kinda just like, "we've got this story and that story which we'd like to use, can't pick one so we'll just cram em all into one episode." But it was great and the baddie was cool with a satisfying demise. Feel a bit disappointed at the backdrop, mind, as in; a museum featuring loads of other BM easter eggs. I agree entirely with Sewelly re viewing each episode in their own separate universe. I don't think they needed to do that and it seemed a bit 'pandering to the audience', which isn't something you'd expect from the show. But I'm nitpicking; Brooker can do what he likes imo.

Awesome stuff.

Callister way out in front, with Hang The DJ a very definite second above the rest. In terms of sheer enjoyment, for me it's: Metalhead > Crocodile > Black Museum > Arkangel.
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Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 7 January 2018, 01:47:55 pm
Just done the last two this morning and I think the whole series, from start to finish, was fantastic. Callister was a cut above, mind, nothing topped that - but I loved all of them aside from probably Arkangel. I enjoyed the ride in that but you could see what was coming every single step of the way.

Of the two that seem to have got the most criticism in this thread; I thought Metalhead was great fun. It was clear very early on that there wasn't any sort of 'profound message' or allegory (not that BM is ever that profound, imo, it's just an entertaining and bleak distopian view of the relatable world, like the majority of other great sci-fi). The dogs were scary s*** and I enjoyed the chase. If there was any criticism, the hopelessness of the finale after such a great chase felt a bit needless. But that's BM for you.

Black Museum was good, too, if a little all-over-the-place. Was kinda just like, "we've got this story and that story which we'd like to use, can't pick one so we'll just cram em all into one episode." But it was great and the baddie was cool with a satisfying demise. Feel a bit disappointed at the backdrop, mind, as in; a museum featuring loads of other BM easter eggs. I agree entirely with Sewelly re viewing each episode in their own separate universe. I don't think they needed to do that and it seemed a bit 'pandering to the audience', which isn't something you'd expect from the show. But I'm nitpicking; Brooker can do what he likes imo.

Awesome stuff.

Callister way out in front, with Hang The DJ a very definite second above the rest. In terms of sheer enjoyment, for me it's: Metalhead > Crocodile > Black Museum > Arkangel.

Pandering to their own ego I would say. I reckon they just got caught out re-using old props, and decided to make it a 'cool' aspect of their creative process.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Sunday 7 January 2018, 01:57:13 pm
Does it necessarily mean it's a shared universe? There were more mods than usual like the wraith babes and anyone song but it's never enything outright.
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Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 7 January 2018, 02:07:08 pm
Does it necessarily mean it's a shared universe? There were more mods than usual like the wraith babes and anyone song but it's never enything outright.

That is the mystery that will keep fans hooked through another 15 years of mediocrity. And Brooker constantly reminding the world that he is a genius.
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Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 7 January 2018, 07:19:59 pm
Finished watching this season, it had some really good episodes but wasn't as good as previous season's, i loved Callister and thought it was a brilliantly made episode and dealt with a great topic, probably my favorite for the season, Arkangel was quite good,  Crocodile was beautifully shot but the overall story could've been done better, Metalhead was honestly a waste of time, Hanh the DJ was superb, it was almost like black mirror reversed, Black Museum was excellent but feel like they over did it just a little.

Overall this show is one of the best around, the seasons almost feel like music albums with different genres and you never really know what your going to get next but quite often its thrilling and thought provoking
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Post by: Si on Sunday 7 January 2018, 07:22:29 pm
Finished watching this season, it had some really good episodes but wasn't as good as previous season's, i loved Callister and thought it was a brilliantly made episode and dealt with a great topic, probably my favorite for the season, Arkangel was quite good,  Crocodile was beautifully shot but the overall story could've been done better, Metalhead was honestly a waste of time, Hanh the DJ was superb, it was almost like black mirror reversed, Black Museum was excellent but feel like they over did it just a little.

Overall this show is one of the best around, the seasons almost feel like music albums with different genres and you never really know what your going to get next but quite often its thrilling and thought provoking
Good post :thup: I love the show even when it's not at it's best it's interesting and when it's good its bloody glorious.
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Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 7 January 2018, 08:14:02 pm
Surprised by the jipes at Metalhead, like.
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Post by: Si on Sunday 7 January 2018, 08:27:28 pm
Surprised by the jipes at Metalhead, like.
Me too, it was a chase story and it did it's job well. My only criticism is I wanted to know more about how they ended up there but that would be defeted the point of the story.
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Post by: M4 on Sunday 7 January 2018, 08:46:15 pm
That's textbook Black Mirror though, it's just the way it is.

Part of the fun is figuring out the rules of the world as you along.
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Post by: Interpolic on Monday 8 January 2018, 10:33:50 am
5 eps in and think it's all been brilliant.  Easily the most consistent series, quality-wise.  Will watch ep 6 tonight.

Expected Metalhead to be poor given its ridiculously harsh 6.9 rating on IMDB but thought it was great and the dogs were scary AF.

Only criticism so far would be lack of memorable twists like we've seen previously, but other than that think it's been fantastic.
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Post by: Jimburst on Monday 8 January 2018, 11:51:34 am
Surprised by the jipes at Metalhead, like.

Aye, just because it wasn't 'clever' didn't make it good telly. I thought for tiny wee robots they were really scary, and I was tense throughout. She was pretty badass for a dinner lady too.
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Post by: Si on Monday 8 January 2018, 12:45:31 pm
Surprised by the jipes at Metalhead, like.

Aye, just because it wasn't 'clever' didn't make it good telly. I thought for tiny wee robots they were really scary, and I was tense throughout. She was pretty badass for a dinner lady too.
Yeah I liked the simplicity of it too for a bit of variety. Those little f***ers were  brutal.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 8 January 2018, 12:47:00 pm
I suppose it's the Star Wars criticism in that it 'isn't Black Mirror' which is probably fair.
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Post by: Mike on Monday 8 January 2018, 03:37:35 pm
Surprised by the jipes at Metalhead, like.

:lol: Metalhead was wild.
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Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 9 January 2018, 01:07:33 am
Hang the DJ is a great bit of TV but its not black Mirror. Just like San Junipero was.
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Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 9 January 2018, 02:00:29 am
How are they not Black Mirror? They're both about the potential impact and role of future technology and have twists. They're very Black Mirror even if they're not explicitly depressing in their conclusion.

Also, I think the appraisal of those episodes as having 'happy' endings is not completely true. San Junipero is more bittersweet than happy and opens up numerous questions about the ethics of 'living' for eternity in what is essentially a limited nostalgia simulation. The characters are dead, and have made this decision to have their consciousness copied despite being (in Kelly's case at least) very conflicted. How long can the honeymoon period last in such a place? To me the concept of eternity is hellish, and I find the desperation for an afterlife at all costs to be quite unnerving and ghoulish. That's not to say I didn't rejoice at the episode resolution. That's the brilliance of Black Mirror, in that it can provide a seemingly positive emotional release that is still laden with darker ethical conundrums.

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Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 9 January 2018, 11:28:00 am
How are they not Black Mirror? They're both about the potential impact and role of future technology and have twists. They're very Black Mirror even if they're not explicitly depressing in their conclusion.

Also, I think the appraisal of those episodes as having 'happy' endings is not completely true. San Junipero is more bittersweet than happy and opens up numerous questions about the ethics of 'living' for eternity in what is essentially a limited nostalgia simulation. The characters are dead, and have made this decision to have their consciousness copied despite being (in Kelly's case at least) very conflicted. How long can the honeymoon period last in such a place? To me the concept of eternity is hellish, and I find the desperation for an afterlife at all costs to be quite unnerving and ghoulish. That's not to say I didn't rejoice at the episode resolution. That's the brilliance of Black Mirror, in that it can provide a seemingly positive emotional release that is still laden with darker ethical conundrums.

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Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 9 January 2018, 11:40:10 am
How are they not Black Mirror? They're both about the potential impact and role of future technology and have twists. They're very Black Mirror even if they're not explicitly depressing in their conclusion.

Also, I think the appraisal of those episodes as having 'happy' endings is not completely true. San Junipero is more bittersweet than happy and opens up numerous questions about the ethics of 'living' for eternity in what is essentially a limited nostalgia simulation. The characters are dead, and have made this decision to have their consciousness copied despite being (in Kelly's case at least) very conflicted. How long can the honeymoon period last in such a place? To me the concept of eternity is hellish, and I find the desperation for an afterlife at all costs to be quite unnerving and ghoulish. That's not to say I didn't rejoice at the episode resolution. That's the brilliance of Black Mirror, in that it can provide a seemingly positive emotional release that is still laden with darker ethical conundrums.

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:thup: Excellent post, this articulates exactly why it was good and exactly why it's very Black Mirror. I didn't think either were happy endings at all :lol: Really dark, in fact.
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Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 13 January 2018, 01:45:16 pm
Four episodes in and Crocodile has been my favourite so far.

Local lass Andrea Riseborough 'n all.
Really like all 6. Top quality TV.

That bitch slagged off Newcastle. Called it an armpit.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/newcastle-born-andrea-riseborough-brands-11644150

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Newcastle-born actor Andrea Riseborough may not be too popular on her next visit home - after branding her hometown the "armpit of the UK."

A-lister Andrea, who starred alongside Emma Stone and Steve Carell in the critically acclaimed ‘Battle of the Sexes’ earlier this year, also managed to criticise the city's trademark drink - Newcastle Brown Ale - in a chat Jimmy Kimmel Live.

Asked where she was from, she told the host - and millions of viewers - Newcastle is “like the armpit” and described it as “the cold North East part”, reports the Chronicle.

Host Jimmy Kimmel responded by saying “it’s funny because you hear ‘Newcastle’ and you think it’s some shining city on a hill”.

He then asked if that’s where Newcastle Brown Ale is from - and Riseborough, speaking in 2016 on the show, didn’t seem all too keen on that either.

She said: “That stuff rots your bladder.

“I took an ex-boyfriend to Newcastle and he was like ‘the whole time I’m here I’m just going to drink Brown Ale, you know’.

“We were in a theatre watching a play and half way through he was like [pretends to jump up] and he had to jump over three rows.

“It just kind of sits in there and then the yeast sort of ferments and then you’ve got to pee, you’ve no choice.”

The chat show host quipped “you should put that in the ads”, to which Riseborough responded “on behalf of my people, you are welcome”.

Raised in Whitley Bay , she studied at Church High School, Jesmond, before winning a place at the prestigious Royal Academy of Dramatic Art.

In an interview with The Times around the time she played Margaret Thatcher in BBC film ‘The Long Road to Finchley’, she described her mother, a secretary, and father, a car salesman, as “working class Thatcherites”

Riseborough, who rose to fame on British TV before landing roles in big budget movies like ‘W.E.’ and Oscar-winning ‘Birdman’, learned her trade in North East theatres.

In a 2013 interview with The Chronicle , she said Heaton’s People’s Theatre was a “huge part of my growing up, from the age of nine” and has also praised Northern Stage.

Riseborough recently appeared in ‘The Death of Stalin’, a black comedy about the Russian dictator directed by Armando Iannucci.

Asked if she would return to Newcastle for Christmas, she said she would be spending it in Venice instead, before waxing lyrical about Los Angeles, her new home.
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Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 13 January 2018, 02:23:19 pm
[emoji38] f***ing hate encountering a s*** geordie.
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Post by: Anderson on Saturday 13 January 2018, 03:18:29 pm
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Post by: Ian W on Sunday 21 January 2018, 09:08:14 pm
Is it me or is the latest series not as good? Not blown away by either of the first two.
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Post by: Sima on Sunday 21 January 2018, 09:10:20 pm
Is it me or is the latest series not as good? Not blown away by either of the first two.

The next two are the best in the series tbf.  Keep watching.
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Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 21 January 2018, 09:26:58 pm
Seems everyone is unanimous on Hang The DJ being in at least they're top 2. 
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Post by: Ginola on Sunday 21 January 2018, 09:45:48 pm
Black Museum was the best of the series imo
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Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 23 January 2018, 04:49:04 pm
Is it me or is the latest series not as good? Not blown away by either of the first two.

The next two are the best in the series tbf.  Keep watching.

Don't rate number 3 either, not the ending anyway. A bit silly again.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 24 January 2018, 06:37:57 am
Hang the DJ and Callister for me. Black museum was fun but a bit too far gone for me. Liked crocodile but f*** was that grim
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Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 24 January 2018, 12:00:15 pm
Hang the DJ was good, really liked it. The other three were too flawed.
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Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 25 January 2018, 09:25:42 am
I have a couple of mates who don't like Black Mirror because 'Nah, it would never happen' 'The Prime Minister would never f*** a pig!'

I don't think it's about being totally realistic, it's social commentary. It's taking elements of our society and taking it to extreme conclusions. I don't reckon the stories have to be totally watertight to be interesting or entertaining.
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 25 January 2018, 10:03:40 am
I absolutely agree, but they have to be convincing still. I just think this series is weaker than the others in that respect. It's not the concepts that are too far-fetched (e.g. the memory machine) it's that they're taken too far
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Just IMO obviously.
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Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 25 January 2018, 10:12:54 am
Thought this series was easily the best and most consistent yet myself, I was seriously impressed. All of the episodes were solid 8s or above.

Saying that, there wasn't one as good as White Christmas or Shut Up & Dance.
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Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 25 January 2018, 01:15:31 pm
I absolutely agree, but they have to be convincing still. I just think this series is weaker than the others in that respect. It's not the concepts that are too far-fetched (e.g. the memory machine) it's that they're taken too far
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Why do you think that's too far?
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 25 January 2018, 01:17:01 pm
Not sure exactly :lol:

Just seems a step too far that this system would work like that on such a simple brain. Obviously the whole thing is fantasy so this is a potentially ridiculous point, but that’s how I felt.

My favourite ones, like the social media scoring one, are just totally convincing that they could be real.

Not having a go at the show, it’s brilliant. Just slightly disappointed by the first three of this series.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 25 January 2018, 01:20:37 pm
:lol: Yeah I just think if they're replaying human memories they'll probably be able to do it on other mammals. Suspension of disbelief and all that.

Nah, fair enough. You can have your opinion, I just don't personally see this drop-off that loads of people are claiming. I especially liked Callister.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Sergio on Tuesday 13 February 2018, 12:26:05 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfIu8Bkl0--/?hl=en&taken-by=ifyouhigh  :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
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Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 13 February 2018, 12:46:52 pm
Clever girl
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Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 27 December 2018, 03:43:08 pm
New Episode on tomorrow, you will decide how the episode plays out, it's 90 minutes long but there is 312 minutes of content so i assume there will be a lot of different twists to how things go.
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Post by: SuperFlat on Thursday 27 December 2018, 03:51:52 pm
Canny long short film that, mind.
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Post by: cubaricho on Thursday 27 December 2018, 07:42:35 pm
 :lol:
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Post by: Decky on Thursday 27 December 2018, 10:21:29 pm
This has been done before. There's a film called Night Shift on the PS4 that allows you to choose how it plays out.
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Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 27 December 2018, 11:12:39 pm
f*** yes.
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Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Friday 28 December 2018, 12:06:00 am
This has been done before. There's a film called Night Shift on the PS4 that allows you to choose how it plays out.
Brooker referenced the "Choose Your Own Adventure" type books as his inspiration.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choose_Your_Own_Adventure

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Fantasy
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Friday 28 December 2018, 05:52:37 pm
Well that was different
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Post by: Troll on Friday 28 December 2018, 06:09:35 pm
Canny long short film that, mind.

It's a feature film IMO.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 28 December 2018, 10:31:23 pm
Chabuddy G?
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Post by: Kaizero on Friday 28 December 2018, 10:38:45 pm
Canny long short film that, mind.

It's an Interactive Film.
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Post by: Troll on Friday 28 December 2018, 11:28:26 pm
:lol:  Mackems are going to struggle with the first choice.
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Post by: Nobody on Friday 28 December 2018, 11:54:57 pm
Apparently five different endings available. Really looking forward to watching it.
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Post by: Troll on Saturday 29 December 2018, 05:23:58 am
That was brilliant. :lol:  He basically created and satirised a new genre in one episode.
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Post by: Si on Saturday 29 December 2018, 02:03:13 pm
Mental that,  very cleverly done. Loved the 80's nostalgia too.
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Post by: shakey jake on Saturday 29 December 2018, 02:21:08 pm
It was such a clusterfuck, man I love this show. Was that just a one off episode or is their a series to follow?
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Post by: Si on Saturday 29 December 2018, 02:23:25 pm
Series to follow, not sure when.
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 29 December 2018, 02:52:11 pm
Ah man, I assumed it was episode 1 of the new season. Gutted.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Si on Saturday 29 December 2018, 03:07:00 pm
I'm guessing because this is so unique they want it to breath a bit and not get swallowed up with the rest of the series. Anyone know when 5 is out?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Mike on Saturday 29 December 2018, 08:42:26 pm
:lol: Black extras? Do we get a line? Trailer says no.
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Post by: Troll on Saturday 29 December 2018, 09:14:12 pm
Not that I've seen, although they have black actors (leads, not extras) on this show all the time.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Sunday 30 December 2018, 11:20:00 pm
:lol: Black extras? Do we get a line? Trailer says no.

Chabuddy G holding it down for the minorites, mate.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 31 December 2018, 01:35:54 pm
I'm guessing because this is so unique they want it to breath a bit and not get swallowed up with the rest of the series. Anyone know when 5 is out?

It's unique for a reason, the idea has existed as long as tv, but nobody has ever done it because we invented computer games. What I ended up watching was a poorly made film version of the stanley parable.

Clearly if I had made different choices it might have been better but for it to be cnsidered a success then every outcome should make sense. It didn't.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 31 December 2018, 02:18:54 pm
I think you can obviously compare this to the Stanley parable but at least in this it explores control on the central character which was interesting
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Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 31 December 2018, 02:22:01 pm
I think you can obviously compare this to the Stanley parable but at least in this it explores control on the central character which was interesting

What control do YOU actually have though? Frosties or Sugar Puffs? There were times when I only had one choice, to go back. What the f*** was the point of that?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 31 December 2018, 04:14:35 pm
Yeah to be honest I didn't really like it. Felt it was a chore getting through all the endings. None of them seemed all that interesting either.


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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 December 2018, 05:18:50 pm
Charlie Brooker's got a really long-running history with computer games, games journalism, and he obviously knows his stuff, but even in Black Mirror a lot of the interactions come across as try-hard cringe. I still haven't seen anything that's really done it right, like, I dunno what it is.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 1 January 2019, 09:25:24 pm
Loved the idea and some parts were a lot of fun, but I lost the plot with it entirely and couldn't be bothered going through all tbf endings, cos nothing seemed to really be making enough sense any more. Cool, though. Looking forward to the next series.

Make sure your battery isn't low on your device, btw. I lost the capability of making choices when my battery went below 15%.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 1 January 2019, 10:51:07 pm
Really want to watch it again but choose sugar puffs and see if it makes any difference, keep all others the same obv.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 12:06:03 am
Just been browsing the Reddit discussion and I think I underestimated the extent of the permutations. A hell of a lot of work went into this, there's loads of possibilities. So clever, love how BM just turns s*** on its head. It's such a cracking show.
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Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 10:21:50 am
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Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 10:23:31 am
That should be spoilered.
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Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 10:34:22 am
:thup:
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Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 10:34:55 am
Sorry Neesy, have done.
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Post by: Beren on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 10:39:51 am
Not very enjoyable tbh.
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Post by: tgarve on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 11:29:38 am
Not very enjoyable tbh.

Agreed didn’t think it seemed to have much substance at all was rather weak,

The choices annoyed me rather than made it fun
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 12:13:26 pm
What lets the whole thing down is that you don't have to make a choice. Just let it go and it picks the first choice by itself. Which makes the whole thing look stupid when he's screaming "Who is making me do this?"
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 01:24:02 pm
:lol: What an odd problem to have with it.

I thought it was a sub-standard episode, but I appreciate the difficulty in creating an episode of television like this and give them credit for trying to do it. I enjoyed the ride but doubt I'll watch it again.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 01:35:26 pm
:lol: What an odd problem to have with it.

I thought it was a sub-standard episode, but I appreciate the difficulty in creating an episode of television like this and give them credit for trying to do it. I enjoyed the ride but doubt I'll watch it again.

I initially thought it was a bit of genius, actually. The first time I didn't choose was 'bite nails' 'punch self in face' or whatever, and when it continued he went to bite his nails, but resisted (made me think of astro). I thought that was a direct reaction to my not interfering, and was impressed. But on the next question I noticed it just selected the first choice.


I'd like to think that a good way to watch it would be to watch it first, without intervention, but that doesn't seem to fit the narrative. But I can't be sure because I chose Frosties.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 01:52:59 pm
It's intended to be interacted with, no surprise it doesn't work as well if left. I would have been really impressed if they recorded an alternate version of every scene where he refuses to do something because you didn't click :lol:
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Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 02:02:42 pm
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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 02:07:33 pm

 I chose Frosties.


You monster
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 02:27:32 pm
It's intended to be interacted with, no surprise it doesn't work as well if left. I would have been really impressed if they recorded an alternate version of every scene where he refuses to do something because you didn't click :lol:

Well obviously. But the choices were presented in such a way as to not intrude upon the viewing experience, they were so discreet I almost missed some of them. I might have, for all I know.


I would imagine the question "what if the viewer doesn't choose?" was asked in pre-production, I don't think they found a very good answer. There should still be a story there, without the interaction.

Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 02:29:23 pm

 I chose Frosties.


You monster

I know. I refuse  to be gaslit by the liberal gay agenda.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Decky on Wednesday 2 January 2019, 03:47:49 pm
I'd have preferred a full season but it was interesting anyway. It's not something I can see catching on though. Also did anyone choose Netflix?

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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 5 January 2019, 09:26:24 pm
I liked the idea of it but wouldn't bother with a second watch. I just quickly got bored with all the dead ends and being taken back to my 'wrong' decision.

But, without wanting to go all meta and brain-twisted, I think the writers intended all this frustration. Like the bigger message delves into the fate vs free will debate, saying that choice is an illusion. Oh I don't know.

I appreciate the effort that went into it though.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:32:07 pm
'Dead Set' has been added to UK Netflix. Charlie Brooker's 'Big Brother' mixed with a zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 3 March 2019, 04:01:30 pm
Possible idea for an episode, murder by webcam. You know these webcam sites where lasses stick that plastic pink rat up their arses and squeal for money? Well, I reckon if somebody had the money, and the inclination, then a few well-timed million pound tips, and boom! She's a goner. Cause of death? Dehydration. The culprit is easily identified, but can they prove it is moider?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Sunday 3 March 2019, 05:39:47 pm
Have an idea for one. Online dating agency that custom curates a person’s dating profile after meeting them and video taping them for a day or two. Guy reaches out to them. The profilers come and stage things to make him a really cool guy like having him play with a dog and surf or some cool s*** like that. During the filming the guy makes some off hand comments like he usually wanks in to a sock on his weekends and other lame things. He thinks the profilers will use the good footage for his profile but they actually use the bad footage and he ends up forever alone.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 3 March 2019, 06:51:38 pm
Possible idea for an episode, murder by webcam. You know these webcam sites where lasses stick that plastic pink rat up their arses and squeal for money? Well, I reckon if somebody had the money, and the inclination, then a few well-timed million pound tips, and boom! She's a goner. Cause of death? Dehydration. The culprit is easily identified, but can they prove it is moider?

I've not seen it yet but 'Cam' on Netflix has elements of your plot idea: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_(film)
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 12:20:05 pm
https://youtu.be/2bVik34nWws
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Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 12:25:16 pm
Oo, Miley Cyrus.
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 12:48:58 pm
Oh yes. 5th June too. Inject this into me, please.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 01:31:39 pm
Just the 3 episodes is a bit s***, mind :thdn:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 01:58:14 pm
Just the 3 episodes is a bit s***, mind :thdn:

Why? Normally 4 out of the six are just meh, anyway.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Saturday 18 May 2019, 01:29:51 pm
Bandersnach was pretty meh mind.

Hoping this is back to form
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Nobody on Sunday 19 May 2019, 12:47:11 am
Disagree on Bandersnatch, thought it was really good and an interesting experiment, just like Black Mirror should be.
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Post by: tgarve on Sunday 19 May 2019, 01:15:57 am
Meh I duno. I got sick of the choices and didn’t feel the story was strong-
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Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 19 May 2019, 09:54:51 am
Meh I duno. I got sick of the choices and didn’t feel the story was strong-

Would.ve been so much better if you could have starved him to death by simply refusing to choose his breakfast.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 24 May 2019, 01:18:54 pm
Only 3 episodes  because they wasted so much time on Bandersnatch. Bandersnatch WAS a good idea, but the finished product was s****. Interactive TV doesn't work, that's why they invented the game console.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/exclusive-black-mirrors-charlie-brooker-reveals-why-season-5-only-has-3-episodes/ar-AABOJ8P?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 10:26:16 am
New eps up now.
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Post by: Mike on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 05:03:06 pm
Wew. Black Mirror and Handmaid on the same day.
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Post by: BergenMagpie on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 06:49:34 pm
GTFI. Binging all the eps this evening


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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: BergenMagpie on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 09:17:17 pm
Striking Vipers was solid, Smithereens was great (amazing acting by Andrew Scott) and Rachel, Jack and Ashley Too was the worst episode of the series
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 5 June 2019, 11:02:26 pm
First one was very average. Scared to hear the 3rd is worse.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Thursday 6 June 2019, 07:33:52 am
Apparently the running order is different for people so you might need to be more specific.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: SimplyAnth on Thursday 6 June 2019, 09:33:13 am
Apparently the running order is different for people so you might need to be more specific.

Aye I was very confused reading Reddit earlier, Striking Vipers was the first episode for me.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: TBG on Thursday 6 June 2019, 10:22:45 am
That's what I got

I agree with a comment on Reddit that it should be renamed
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Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 6 June 2019, 12:02:40 pm
Me too :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 6 June 2019, 06:16:31 pm
The Miley Cyrus one is absolutely terrible
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Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 6 June 2019, 07:38:18 pm
The Miley Cyrus one is absolutely terrible

I like it. But i’m Obsessed with her so maybe it was that.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: bhoywhonder on Friday 7 June 2019, 05:09:36 pm
The Miley Cyrus one is absolutely terrible

It was a bit disjointed (and that ending FFS), but on the whole it fell into the tiny 'fun' Black Mirror category and I found it fine...one of my guilty-pleasure comedy tropes is unexpected swearing (kids, pensioners, cartoon dogs and now AI pop-star dolls). Striking Vipers was great but could have been trimmed down a bit maybe 10-15 mins, there was a lot of downtime where ef-all plot progression happenned. Smithereens was the best imo.

Does anyone think Brookers running a little low on ideas? We've seen several iterations of 'X' person's mind recreated in object 'Y' now.   
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Friday 7 June 2019, 05:13:31 pm
Yeah, he’s done a good job but he should have stopped it already. Guess he just started making real money when it went to Netflix.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 7 June 2019, 05:56:05 pm
There’s only so many you can do before it gets forced. Why I enjoyed metalhead so much. All three were pretty solid albeit the last one a bit wacky.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 8 June 2019, 11:09:24 am
I thought Striking Vipers was absolutely fantastic, loved everything about it. Great story, great acting, great visuals - really funny at times, too.

Smithereens wasn't on the same level but Andrew Scott was terrific and I still really enjoyed the comedy. I love the way they deal with idiots who've no idea that they're idiots in Black Mirror, like that negotiator guy - such a well-meaning dick. :lol:

Not got to the Miley Cyrus one yet but I hope it isn't a disappointment; bloody love it when Black Mirror comes around so I'm a bit gutted that there's only three. The budget must be absolutely insane now, though. Global superstars in every episode, crazy effects, glitzy locations. It's a humongous production compared to say the first two seasons.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 8 June 2019, 12:33:46 pm
I thought Striking Vipers was absolutely fantastic, loved everything about it. Great story, great acting, great visuals - really funny at times, too.

Smithereens wasn't on the same level but Andrew Scott was terrific and I still really enjoyed the comedy. I love the way they deal with idiots who've no idea that they're idiots in Black Mirror, like that negotiator guy - such a well-meaning dick. :lol:

Not got to the Miley Cyrus one yet but I hope it isn't a disappointment; bloody love it when Black Mirror comes around so I'm a bit gutted that there's only three. The budget must be absolutely insane now, though. Global superstars in every episode, crazy effects, glitzy locations. It's a humongous production compared to say the first two seasons.

A world away from it's humble eginnings when the stories had to engage. I used to be the biggest fan of the show but I'm just not interested anymore. 1st series on Netflix was still quite fresh, and about 4 out of the 6 were well executed, but it was evident then that they were going for style over substance. Since then it's been generally crap, and yet Brooker believes he's getting better. It's quite embarrassing to watch him enjoy his deserved success.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 8 June 2019, 09:29:54 pm
I preferred Smithereens to Striking Vipers, nice idea and great performance from Andrew Scott.
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Post by: ikri on Saturday 8 June 2019, 11:00:22 pm
I actually quite enjoyed the Miley Cyrus episode.  With the idea of a technology that can copy an an entire mind having been introduced previously, it's a fairly straightforward idea from there to conceive of a situation where an actor or musician could have their selves copied and be essentially enslaved to continue working even after they've died or been incapacitated.

We've already seen films made with CGI characters based on actors who died decades ago & I'm certain that I've read about some actors imposing limitations on anyone using their likeness after their deaths.  How much would Disney pay for a "cookie" version of Robin Williams?  He apparently stipulated that they weren't allowed to produce anything with the unused bits of his Genie character for 20 years after his death, but it would have been handy for them to use when making their Aladdin remake.  What would Geffen Records give to have a capture of John Lennon's mind working away making music over 30 years after he died? 

The story felt like the obvious continuation from existing themes in the series.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 8 June 2019, 11:25:47 pm
I actually quite enjoyed the Miley Cyrus episode.  With the idea of a technology that can copy an an entire mind having been introduced previously, it's a fairly straightforward idea from there to conceive of a situation where an actor or musician could have their selves copied and be essentially enslaved to continue working even after they've died or been incapacitated.

We've already seen films made with CGI characters based on actors who died decades ago & I'm certain that I've read about some actors imposing limitations on anyone using their likeness after their deaths.  How much would Disney pay for a "cookie" version of Robin Williams?  He apparently stipulated that they weren't allowed to produce anything with the unused bits of his Genie character for 20 years after his death, but it would have been handy for them to use when making their Aladdin remake.  What would Geffen Records give to have a capture of John Lennon's mind working away making music over 30 years after he died? 

The story felt like the obvious continuation from existing themes in the series.

30 years of John Lennon's mind without any further experience to draw upon would be turgid, so it would be priceless in today's market.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Sunday 9 June 2019, 12:34:04 am
Striking Vipers was solid, Smithereens was great (amazing acting by Andrew Scott) and Rachel, Jack and Ashley Too was the worst episode of the series

Andrew Scott is one hell of an actor, like.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 9 June 2019, 02:07:15 am
Miley Cyrus episode was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen :lol:

The Streetfghter episode was class. As if you’d use it for amything else.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ginola on Sunday 9 June 2019, 08:10:34 am
I enjoyed all 3 episodes. Smithereens was the best of the bunch
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Post by: kingkerouac on Sunday 9 June 2019, 11:08:12 am
Striking Vipers.
The idea is very similar to San Junipero, where two 'straight' women fall in love with each others avatar's in a virtual enviro, is it not?
Brooker should know that. A bit disappointed.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 9 June 2019, 11:36:20 am
Striking Vipers.
The idea is very similar to San Junipero, where two 'straight' women fall in love with each others avatar's in a virtual enviro, is it not?
Brooker should know that. A bit disappointed.

Charlie Brooker, the ral life Lee Sizemore.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: kingkerouac on Sunday 9 June 2019, 12:13:56 pm
Striking Vipers.
The idea is very similar to San Junipero, where two 'straight' women fall in love with each others avatar's in a virtual enviro, is it not?
Brooker should know that. A bit disappointed.

Charlie Brooker, the ral life Lee Sizemore.

?
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 9 June 2019, 04:21:01 pm
f*** knows what Stan means 90% of the time.

I agree on Striking Vipers, just thought it was an old idea. Smithereens is much better.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 9 June 2019, 04:38:09 pm
Striking Vipers had at entirely different themes to San Juniper, though. Smithereens was nowhere near as layered as the vast majority of episodes, SV included.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:07:51 pm
I enjoyed all three episodes, especially striking vipers, while this season wasn't mind f***ing it was still entertaining.
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Sunday 9 June 2019, 11:04:30 pm
Watched the first 2 episodes of series 5 past couple of nights. First 2 episodes of black mirror ive ever seen. SV was good. Smithereen was excellent, though. As someone who works in that online content, attention industry, really poignant. We're no where near that level, but, you know...  Bang on as well, btw.
Should probably start series 1 at some point.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: kingkerouac on Tuesday 11 June 2019, 08:10:17 am
f*** knows what Stan means 90% of the time.

I agree on Striking Vipers, just thought it was an old idea. Smithereens is much better.

I agree. Saw Smithereens last night. Very good.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 11 June 2019, 08:30:07 am
Striking Vipers.
The idea is very similar to San Junipero, where two 'straight' women fall in love with each others avatar's in a virtual enviro, is it not?
Brooker should know that. A bit disappointed.

Charlie Brooker, the ral life Lee Sizemore.

?

He'll be gutted that nobody remembers him, after such a heroic death.
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Post by: Jill on Wednesday 12 June 2019, 03:57:20 pm
Finally got round to watching this from the start. Some episodes better than others but on the whole it's quite clever.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Wednesday 12 June 2019, 05:06:02 pm
First episode(Striking Vipers) was super weird. Didn't like it. Just felt long and uncomfortable to watch.

Second episode was okay. Long build up to that and then it was like "That's what happened?" Jeez, dude. That's your fault.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 12 June 2019, 05:07:24 pm
https://johnaugust.com/2019/the-one-with-charlie-brooker

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John talks with Charlie Brooker (creator, writer, and executive producer of Black Mirror) about his groundbreaking series and the opportunities and challenges of writing an anthology.

We also touch on the nature of reality, the difficulty of reflecting culture while you influence it, and experimental storytelling.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 19 June 2019, 09:40:46 am
Caught up with the new ones last night.  They were alright, Smithereens the best of the 3.  Hope the next series is back to 6 eps.

Also, whoever wrote this list should be banned from watching BM.  Slags off a lot of the best eps and is generally clueless:

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jun/06/every-episode-of-black-mirror-ranked-charlie-brooker

No idea why "wrong" lists still get me so angry :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: kingkerouac on Wednesday 19 June 2019, 09:51:32 am
Caught up with the new ones last night.  They were alright, Smithereens the best of the 3.  Hope the next series is back to 6 eps.

Also, whoever wrote this list should be banned from watching BM.  Slags off a lot of the best eps and is generally clueless:

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jun/06/every-episode-of-black-mirror-ranked-charlie-brooker

No idea why "wrong" lists still get me so angry :lol:

The Guardian seems to be repositioning itself as a 'centrist' newspaper, rather than what is has always traditionally been a left of centre/liberal investigative newspaper.
Sad times...
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: tgarve on Thursday 20 June 2019, 11:06:11 am
Caught up with the new ones last night.  They were alright, Smithereens the best of the 3.  Hope the next series is back to 6 eps.

Also, whoever wrote this list should be banned from watching BM.  Slags off a lot of the best eps and is generally clueless:

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jun/06/every-episode-of-black-mirror-ranked-charlie-brooker

No idea why "wrong" lists still get me so angry :lol:

Be right back is decent but definitely not better than san Junipero or hang the dj

White Christmas is one of the best

Bandersnatch is pretty crap

Worst list I’ve ever seen
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: St1pe on Thursday 20 June 2019, 11:30:20 am
Caught up with the new ones last night.  They were alright, Smithereens the best of the 3.  Hope the next series is back to 6 eps.

Also, whoever wrote this list should be banned from watching BM.  Slags off a lot of the best eps and is generally clueless:

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jun/06/every-episode-of-black-mirror-ranked-charlie-brooker

No idea why "wrong" lists still get me so angry :lol:

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone rank BM episodes so poorly. Rates some of the best ones as worst and has Nosedive in the top two.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 20 June 2019, 06:50:18 pm
What is folks' favorite, for that matter? Callister for me.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 20 June 2019, 07:35:32 pm
Hang the dj is just joyous tbh. Quite like the sinister happy ones and the grounded ones like the couple and the photographic memories
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 20 June 2019, 07:36:26 pm
Metalhead wasn’t really black mirror but it’s f***ing great
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Astroblack on Thursday 20 June 2019, 07:45:12 pm
15 Million Merritts for me. Nofap = dancing  :aww:

Forgot how good White Bear was. What a glorious twist that was.

Entire History of you is my third favorite. Loved the eye technology and the story around it was really well done.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 20 June 2019, 07:50:12 pm
I agree on stuff like black museum. It’s best when the tech is the ever present  but lesser element in light of the characters and their motivations.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 20 June 2019, 10:32:25 pm
All of the ones centring around a relationship - particularly Hang The DJ, for me - are brilliant. I absolutely loved everything about Striking Vipers too, tbh.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Sima on Friday 21 June 2019, 06:57:27 am
I see Ashley O got up to number 8 on the global iTunes chart.  Probably wouldn’t have happened if it was some random actress dafty but still quite funny.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 22 June 2019, 01:58:38 am
The one where he's being spied through the laptop and it has Jerome Flynn.
Title: Re: Charlie Brooker Black Mirror
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 22 June 2019, 03:22:06 pm
Realised the other day that the O in Ashley O clearly stands for "Out" and Brooker's a massive Toon fan :aww: