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Title: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 20 January 2011, 10:59:28 AM
Metro faces disruption amid £385m revamp

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HUGE stretches of the Metro are to be closed for weeks at a time as a £22m revamp gets under way, it was revealed today.

Passengers face years of disruption as mile after mile of rail line closes around the clock for essential work.

The first stretch to be affected is between Byker and Tynemouth which will close for 23 days in March and April as part of the biggest engineering programme in Metro’s 30 years.

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Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Disco on Thursday 20 January 2011, 11:21:30 AM
So long as South Gosforth to Felling stays largely unaffected. Can't be f***ed with having to get the peasant wagon to work.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Thursday 20 January 2011, 11:22:57 AM
So long as South Gosforth to Felling remian unaffected.

This.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 20 January 2011, 11:33:27 AM
Can't complain too much as its long overdue. Saying that, its taken them 20 years to install disabled access to Benton Metro :\
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 20 January 2011, 11:45:13 AM
Has to be done before the system falls into serious disrepair as it hasn't had much upgraded since the main system was built.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Disco on Thursday 20 January 2011, 12:03:23 PM
Aye don't disagree with that Neesy. Could do with some more modern trains n all but does the job I guess. Sounds like these changes are necessary though so good on them for doing it.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 20 January 2011, 12:07:31 PM
Aye don't disagree with that Neesy. Could do with some more modern trains n all but does the job I guess. Sounds like these changes are necessary though so good on them for doing it.

All the trains are being refurbished IIRC, or new rolling stock being ordered.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: madras on Thursday 20 January 2011, 12:08:38 PM
Can't complain too much as its long overdue. Saying that, its taken them 20 years to install disabled access to Benton Metro :\
too lazy for steps eh ?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Thursday 20 January 2011, 12:10:23 PM
Has to be done before the system falls into serious disrepair as it hasn't had much upgraded since the main system was built.

From what i understand the metro has a policy of replace rather then maintain, its likely to have already went to far tbh.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 20 January 2011, 12:17:52 PM
Aye don't disagree with that Neesy. Could do with some more modern trains n all but does the job I guess. Sounds like these changes are necessary though so good on them for doing it.

All the trains are being refurbished IIRC, or new rolling stock being ordered.
Aye, we wont's see the new trains for another 15 years or so, but we are due back the first lot of trains then went to get refurbished in a few months.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 20 January 2011, 02:35:58 PM
Don't see the problem, if there is going to be upgrades there'll be inconvenience for a while.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 20 January 2011, 02:39:49 PM
Going to be hellish on matchdays!
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 20 January 2011, 03:46:29 PM
At the end of the day this has to be done, otherwise we will just see more delays, and in the end the system will fail and will just get shut down.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 20 January 2011, 03:48:53 PM
Can't complain too much as its long overdue. Saying that, its taken them 20 years to install disabled access to Benton Metro :\
too lazy for steps eh ?
:sadnod:

They've removed the step bridge, so I have to walk half way around Benton just to get to the otherside of the tracks now! Its ok coming home though. Glad its going a head, was a horrible rumour that all budgeting for this was going to be cut a few years ago on the cityscape forum.

Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Weezertron on Thursday 20 January 2011, 04:38:58 PM
Can't complain too much as its long overdue. Saying that, its taken them 20 years to install disabled access to Benton Metro :\
too lazy for steps eh ?
:sadnod:

They've removed the step bridge, so I have to walk half way around Benton just to get to the otherside of the tracks now! Its ok coming home though. Glad its going a head, was a horrible rumour that all budgeting for this was going to be cut a few years ago on the cityscape forum.

Eh?! The bridge is gone? That's s***. Why not just leave it there and still have some ramps knocking about.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 20 January 2011, 04:39:47 PM
Can't complain too much as its long overdue. Saying that, its taken them 20 years to install disabled access to Benton Metro :\
too lazy for steps eh ?
:sadnod:

They've removed the step bridge, so I have to walk half way around Benton just to get to the otherside of the tracks now! Its ok coming home though. Glad its going a head, was a horrible rumour that all budgeting for this was going to be cut a few years ago on the cityscape forum.

Eh?! The bridge is gone? That's s***. Why not just leave it there and still have some ramps knocking about.

Nee idea. I think they have to remove it so they can redo the foundation for the new and improved super bridge!
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 20 January 2011, 04:54:14 PM
About time, it's very expensive and the trains are minging.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 20 January 2011, 04:56:33 PM
It couldn't get any worse for myself every time i have to use it so I hope this really does inconvenience everyone else as well.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Rob W on Friday 21 January 2011, 08:20:28 AM
They should be looking to extend it - crazy there it stops at the airport and doesn't run into Ponteland and there is nothing in the West End either
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: biggs on Friday 21 January 2011, 08:41:38 AM
Thought the title was the name of a new Morrisey album :nope:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: biggs on Friday 21 January 2011, 08:44:40 AM
They should be looking to extend it - crazy there it stops at the airport and doesn't run into Ponteland and there is nothing in the West End either
Chavtastic if they did that it would be like the film The Warriors with crews from all over having a trip to chin the posh boys .
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:22:51 AM
Mind you compared to other metro systems the Metro is ridiculous expensive, though transport in the North East is.

In London any bus journey is £1.30, and it only costs me £2.80 return on the tube to work and back.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ian W on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:23:41 AM
Mind you compared to other metro systems the Metro is ridiculous expensive, though transport in the North East is.

In London any bus journey is £1.30, and it only costs me £2.80 return on the tube to work and back.

Aye, Newcastle buses are mad expensive as well. Low Fell to Newcastle is over £3 return on the bus (IIRC), and it only takes about 10 minutes and is no distance at all.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Disco on Friday 21 January 2011, 10:16:13 AM
Mind you compared to other metro systems the Metro is ridiculous expensive, though transport in the North East is.

In London any bus journey is £1.30, and it only costs me £2.80 return on the tube to work and back.

I pay £33 for 4 weeks on the metro so it ain't too bad.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ocho on Friday 21 January 2011, 10:21:37 AM
Mind you compared to other metro systems the Metro is ridiculous expensive, though transport in the North East is.

In London any bus journey is £1.30, and it only costs me £2.80 return on the tube to work and back.

I pay £33 for 4 weeks on the metro so it ain't too bad.

That's a cracking price.

Merseyrail charge £46 just for one zone, two zones is £57.30.

Robbing scousers  :shifty:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Disco on Friday 21 January 2011, 12:19:16 PM
Aye mine is just zone 1 like. Pretty lucky that I work and live right on the limits of zone 1 but I think I you go outside the zone and gt caught you just need to pay the difference.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Friday 21 January 2011, 05:43:38 PM
They should be looking to extend it - crazy there it stops at the airport and doesn't run into Ponteland and there is nothing in the West End either

Im not sure the Sunderland extension will ever prove worth while tbh
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: biggs on Friday 21 January 2011, 06:15:00 PM
They should be looking to extend it - crazy there it stops at the airport and doesn't run into Ponteland and there is nothing in the West End either

Im not sure the Sunderland extension will ever prove worth while tbh
No one from Newcastle wants to go there apart for the match tbh
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Friday 21 January 2011, 06:43:47 PM
Was talking about this at work today, the project really is massive and should provide jobs locally as well, likely to be more agency work but jobs non the less.

The rail is just about worn out from what i understand and all of the signalling cabling is being renewed too as well as signals and track circuits, most of the work wont have any visual impact when finished however the system needs it desperately.  When the Metro took on Tynemouth and Whitley Bay Rail stations they agreed a maintenance structure to keep them up to the Grade 1 listed standard and from what i understand this hasn't really be done to date.
I just hope they don't end up scrimping on the quality and opt for quantity, its going to have to last a similar period of time again.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Jill on Friday 21 January 2011, 07:31:00 PM
Can't complain too much as its long overdue. Saying that, its taken them 20 years to install disabled access to Benton Metro :\
too lazy for steps eh ?
:sadnod:

They've removed the step bridge, so I have to walk half way around Benton just to get to the otherside of the tracks now! Its ok coming home though. Glad its going a head, was a horrible rumour that all budgeting for this was going to be cut a few years ago on the cityscape forum.

Eh?! The bridge is gone? That's s***. Why not just leave it there and still have some ramps knocking about.

Nee idea. I think they have to remove it so they can redo the foundation for the new and improved super bridge!

Aye they had to redo the foundations and that interfered in a load of other s**** like sewers and stuff, apparently. It's been a right f*** on going to my mam's and doing laps of half of Benton.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:20:46 PM
What's the nearest metro to NE13 9AA?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: cp40 on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:21:48 PM
What's the nearest metro to NE13 9AA?


where is that?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Jill on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:22:56 PM
Somewhere like Fawdon by the looks of it.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=NE13+9AA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Newcastle+Upon+Tyne,+Tyne+And+Wear+NE13+9AA&gl=uk&ei=3Pg5TfOuL6GAhAfqktSpCg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:23:52 PM
What's the nearest metro to NE13 9AA?


where is that?

Prob be Regent Centre but you will have to get a bus,if its Great north park?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:24:29 PM
Fuk it, too far away.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:25:21 PM
Fuk it, too far away.  :lol:

If your looking at a job in Sage i'm pretty sure they do some kind of staff bus service from places.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:26:35 PM
Fuk it, too far away.  :lol:

If your looking at a job in Sage i'm pretty sure they do some kind of staff bus service from places.

They've an opening day on Monday, i was interested to see what their Technical Support Consultant role has to offer. Is there any buses from a metro to there?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Friday 21 January 2011, 09:35:51 PM
Fuk it, too far away.  :lol:

If your looking at a job in Sage i'm pretty sure they do some kind of staff bus service from places.

They've an opening day on Monday, i was interested to see what their Technical Support Consultant role has to offer. Is there any buses from a metro to there?

Cant say for def mate but i'm sure there will be, its out on a limb too much for them not to, like i said i'm sure that they have some kind of staff service up to there, could be wrong though but worth checking out. 

Other then that the 42,43,44,45 busses pass Gosfroth park, thats not far from there but a walk none the less, get them from Haymarket and numerous others im sure.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 22 January 2011, 08:30:35 AM
took the metro once when i was back home, up to the airport  :smitten:

love the metro, south gossy is boss one
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Rob W on Saturday 22 January 2011, 08:48:01 AM
They should be looking to extend it - crazy there it stops at the airport and doesn't run into Ponteland and there is nothing in the West End either

Im not sure the Sunderland extension will ever prove worth while tbh

me mam was always against it "they'll all be up here stealing from us mark my words!"
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: BlueStar on Sunday 23 January 2011, 08:39:01 AM
Had my first nightmare journey with this this morning, got up nice and early because I knew they were off along the top line, so I'd have to get a bus replacement.  Then found out the bus replacement wasn't calling at Monksteaton because of "unforseen roadworks" you know, the ones being carried out on the metro bridge that have been going on for about 3 months, with signs warning about them for a month before that, the ones that seem to have come as a surprise to them.  So there was a replacement-bus-replacement into Whitley, but that didn't start till 9 and I was meant to be at work at 8, so I ended up hoofing it to West Monksteaton, discovering by the time the next bus turned up I'd be massively late and f***ing it off and getting a £15 taxi, which I've demanded Nexus pay for.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mantis on Sunday 23 January 2011, 10:08:44 AM
Public transport works, thats why we all supposed to ditch our cars.  As long as your job fits in with Nexus timetables.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 2 February 2011, 02:50:52 PM
Gonna be off from Byker to Tynemouth for the next five weekends, the the following weekend the same stretch is going to be off for 23 days in a row.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 20 June 2011, 10:26:21 AM
Some f***ing dickheads have been robbing cable AGAIN, this is like the third time in a week or something. Finally running again, but big delays. Hope the thieving c***s end up looking like that bagel I left under the grill.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Monday 20 June 2011, 11:04:12 AM
Took wor lass 90mins to get to work this morning, usually around 20min Mark, she's fuming.

Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Monday 20 June 2011, 08:24:35 PM
Some f***ing dickheads have been robbing cable AGAIN, this is like the third time in a week or something. Finally running again, but big delays. Hope the thieving c***s end up looking like that bagel I left under the grill.

Its a nationwide problem, honestly the money it is costing the rail industry in general is astonishing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jun/06/sheffield-copper-theft-national-rail
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 28 June 2011, 11:58:41 AM
More stolen last night it seems, off from between here and Wallsend at least.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 5 July 2011, 06:19:57 PM
Page last updated at 16:24 GMT+01:00, Tuesday, 5 July 2011
Boy electrocuted in 'theft bid'

The boy's body was discovered by a security guard
A boy has been electrocuted during a suspected attempt to steal copper cable at a disused Leeds power station.

CE Electric UK said the 16-year-old had tampered with cabling at the site on Skelton Grange Road in Stourton, near Hunslet, on Sunday, 3 July.

His body was discovered by a security guard working for CE Electric UK.

West Yorkshire Police said three youths had been interviewed in connection with suspected theft and that inquiries were ongoing.

CE Electric said it had dealt with 279 incidents of metal theft in West Yorkshire in the last year.

Geoff Earl, head of safety for CE Electric UK, said: "It is believed that the youth died after attempting to steal copper components from our network.

"The circumstances of the incident have had devastating consequences for his family who now have to come terms with this tragedy.

"We cannot stress enough how dangerous it is to tamper with electrical equipment on the network.

"Our sites are clearly marked with 'Danger of Death' signs for a very important reason.

"We are pleading with these thieves to think about the consequences of their actions and how much they are risking for such a small return, especially in light of this tragedy."



sp**, let's hope this happens to the c***s up our way.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 5 July 2011, 06:21:46 PM
Delays again this morning man. It's every other day now.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: WashyGeordie on Tuesday 20 September 2011, 05:42:50 PM
Don't know if anyone seen this (or posted it) and i didn't know where to put it, but there's talk of another Metro expansion:

Quote from: Journal Live
The Metro could be extended to new parts of the region after transport bosses unveiled a decade worth of expansion plans, including proposals to extend the Metro to Cramlington.

New city centre trams could be introduced as part of long-term plans being considered by the Tyne and Wear Integrated Transport Authority.

Nine new lines, a mixture of trains, trams and special bus routes, are to be put before the board next week, with members being told they have a “once in a generation” opportunity to radically change the future of the rail system.

The plans include the potential for a new tram train line travelling from Newcastle city centre to the west end, a section of Tyneside not connected to the Metro system.

Large parts of Tyne and Wear are currently not served by Metro, with transport chiefs at the authority commissioning an independent review to address this over the next 10 years.

It is hoped the business case for the new trains, as well as reopening some tracks, will be put together by 2013, in advance of Government plans to start the bidding process for new major infrastructure projects in 2014.

But with Government funding no longer guaranteed, the transport authority will either have to lead a strong and lengthy lobbying operation or find a way of bringing in private sector cash.

Last year the service was awarded £300m by the Government for upgrade work in exchange for bringing in private operators DB Regio to run Metro trains.

Bernard Garner, director general of Nexus, said: “The benefits of Metro are clear and we would like to extend those benefits to new parts of Tyne and Wear where it would benefit the whole economy to do so. This is not only a study into the potential networks of future decades, but also the types of technologies that might suit them best.”

http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news//tm_headline=metro-expansion-plans-revealed-to-expand-system%26method=full%26objectid=29432105%26siteid=61634-name_page.html#ixzz1Y6BXCoWs (http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news//tm_headline=metro-expansion-plans-revealed-to-expand-system%26method=full%26objectid=29432105%26siteid=61634-name_page.html#ixzz1Y6BXCoWs)

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Canny interesting to see what'll happen in 2013.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: WashyGeordie on Tuesday 20 September 2011, 05:54:25 PM
Goes through some proper s*** holes! :lol:

Come on... Glebe's a lovely place! ............
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 20 September 2011, 06:03:10 PM
Sounds good like, wouldn't mind the Metro being extended to the West End :thup:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Tuesday 20 September 2011, 06:08:58 PM
Sounds good like, wouldn't mind the Metro being extended to the West End :thup:

Has needed to happen for years, good transport links is the best way to bring it into the 21st century. It also baffles me how we've never had a metro line for the metro centre :lol:

Would be amazing if those proposals came off; however, the vast majority of those stations won't come to light. A station at Silksworth would be handy, as would the link between North and South Tyneside.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 20 September 2011, 06:15:23 PM
Sounds good like, wouldn't mind the Metro being extended to the West End :thup:

Has needed to happen for years, good transport links is the best way to bring it into the 21st century. It also baffles me how we've never had a metro line for the metro centre :lol:

Would be amazing if those proposals came off; however, the vast majority of those stations won't come to light. A station at Silksworth would be handy, as would the link between North and South Tyneside.

:nods:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Tuesday 20 September 2011, 11:59:44 PM
Stop at Harton would make my life easier :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: cubaricho on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:49:08 AM
Rather than look at that map and think 'Ooh, look at all of those places we could get to, easier'....we need to think 'urgh, look at all those places that could get to us, easily!" :undecided:

Some proper inbred places at the end of the lines.

Yeh, PONTELAND...I'm talking to you! :rant:

Nah...just kidding. It all looks great :shifty:

The stop "Pity Me" looks particularly depressing (like).
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 10:49:47 AM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 12:18:23 PM
They can't even maintain and look after the ones they've got already, this is a terrible idea.

It's like a single mam of 4 living off benefits getting pregnant with twins and happy about it due to get some more money out of us all.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 01:29:47 PM
They can't even maintain and look after the ones they've got already, this is a terrible idea.

It's like a single mam of 4 living off benefits getting pregnant with twins and happy about it due to get some more money out of us all.

Don't extensively use the metro these days, but whenever I've needed to, the stations have been fine...occasionally needing a paint job (out towards the coast) but nothing major.

Biggest complaint would be the lack of a facility to pay without coins. Pretty ridiculous that they haven't got card facilities and then have inspectors galore.

Went the 'long way round' from Monument to Tynemouth on Monday and the stations all looked decent.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 01:54:19 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 01:56:15 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: fraz77 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 03:14:42 PM
That map is incredibly audacious, looks like a dot to dot gone wrong
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 03:16:31 PM
I like the random circle track to link the inner city. Can't wait till we have to pay £10 to travel 1 zone.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 04:23:37 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 04:26:02 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: S.S.R. on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 04:29:45 PM
Can't wait to see the flying metro that leaps from Walker across the Tyne.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 04:32:35 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 04:37:10 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.

You're still sticking with the "hundreds of billions" prediction? :lol: Unbelievable.

I've had a quick look, and I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea, yet I can still give you a cast-iron, Gupter Guarantee that I will be an awful lot more accurate than you. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: WashyGeordie on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 04:41:32 PM
Surely the expansion to the darkside didn't cost hundreds of billions? And that's still pretty recently built.

I'd say at a guess that the map won't get done soon, there's just too many to build for one expansion, but even if it's done one by one is progress and say, they built a few more in the next 5 years for what need's one, ie. Metro Centre, West End and maybe the Shields connection etc etc.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 04:56:13 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.

You're still sticking with the "hundreds of billions" prediction? :lol: Unbelievable.

I've had a quick look, and I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea, yet I can still give you a cast-iron, Gupter Guarantee that I will be an awful lot more accurate than you. :lol:
you must have trouble reading as well as doing sums — as I’ve already pointed out the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close a billion for only 23 stops. As on that same post on page 2 it stated “Last year the service was awarded £300m by the Government for upgrade work” — that’s nigh on a third of a billion for upgrade work only.

that plan has loads of new stations and several bridges. A billion wouldn’t even scratch the surface.

You just stick to p*ss taking smiley faces etc eh?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:00:04 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.

You're still sticking with the "hundreds of billions" prediction? :lol: Unbelievable.

I've had a quick look, and I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea, yet I can still give you a cast-iron, Gupter Guarantee that I will be an awful lot more accurate than you. :lol:
you must have trouble reading as well as doing sums — as I’ve already pointed out the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close a billion for only 23 stops. As on that same post on page 2 it stated “Last year the service was awarded £300m by the Government for upgrade work” — that’s nigh on a third of a billion for upgrade work only.

that plan has loads of new stations and several bridges. A billion wouldn’t even scratch the surface.

You just stick to p*ss taking smiley faces etc eh?

You can't see the difference between £300m or £1bn and "hundreds of billions"? f***ing hell man. :lol:

Do you know what the entire planned expenditure by the Government in the latest budget was? About £700bn, you're expecting what, half that on the f***ing metro? You are phenomenal. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:05:56 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.

You're still sticking with the "hundreds of billions" prediction? :lol: Unbelievable.

I've had a quick look, and I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea, yet I can still give you a cast-iron, Gupter Guarantee that I will be an awful lot more accurate than you. :lol:
you must have trouble reading as well as doing sums — as I’ve already pointed out the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close a billion for only 23 stops. As on that same post on page 2 it stated “Last year the service was awarded £300m by the Government for upgrade work” — that’s nigh on a third of a billion for upgrade work only.

that plan has loads of new stations and several bridges. A billion wouldn’t even scratch the surface.

You just stick to p*ss taking smiley faces etc eh?

You can't see the difference between £300m or £1bn and "hundreds of billions"? f***ing hell man. :lol:

Do you know what the entire planned expenditure by the Government in the latest budget was? About £700bn, you're expecting what, half that on the f***ing metro? You are phenomenal. :lol:
clearly that was my point — the whole plan is ridiculous, try reading it again, if you can.

A billion and a third of a billion for next to nothing would multiply into hundreds of billions for that sort of expansion — that’s why the plan is ridiculous.

penny dropping yet?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:14:15 PM
You need to get a grip, not on this planet would that planned expansion cost "hundreds of billions", for crying out loud.

I've never heard such an absolutely preposterous estimation, I originally gave you benefit of the doubt and assumed it was grossly exaggerated, but no, you are carrying on with this ridiculous notion.

You have cited the Edinburgh build as an example, it's nearing on £1bn for 23 stops you say, let's apply the comparison literally (silly I know), I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (again), and assume you only meant £200bn, that would mean 4600 stops, I've only had a quick look at the plan, admittedly, but I don't see 4600 stops, do you?

It genuinely worries me that you believe it would cost "hundreds of billions" to implement this, it really does, I find it shocking and a little bit disturbing.

When you walk into a shop, I bet the people working there have seen you coming from a mile off.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:18:57 PM
Hundreds of Billions  :lol:

Tbf, he pays £300 a pint.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:19:38 PM
You need to get a grip, not on this planet would that planned expansion cost "hundreds of billions", for crying out loud.

I've never heard such an absolutely preposterous estimation, I originally gave you benefit of the doubt and assumed it was grossly exaggerated, but no, you are carrying on with this ridiculous notion.

You have cited the Edinburgh build as an example, it's nearing on £1bn for 23 stops you say, let's apply the comparison literally (silly I know), I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (again), and assume you only meant £200bn, that would mean 4600 stops, I've only had a quick look at the plan, admittedly, but I don't see 4600 stops, do you?

It genuinely worries me that you believe it would cost "hundreds of billions" to implement this, it really does, I find it shocking and a little bit disturbing.

When you walk into a shop, I bet the people working there have seen you coming from a mile off.

:facepalm:

:lol: Gupter got serious.

Kid can joke around about the worlds most f***ed up s***, but if you give him inaccurate estimations of potential public transport expansion costs, kid gets mad.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:20:56 PM
You need to get a grip, not on this planet would that planned expansion cost "hundreds of billions", for crying out loud.

I've never heard such an absolutely preposterous estimation, I originally gave you benefit of the doubt and assumed it was grossly exaggerated, but no, you are carrying on with this ridiculous notion.

You have cited the Edinburgh build as an example, it's nearing on £1bn for 23 stops you say, let's apply the comparison literally (silly I know), I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (again), and assume you only meant £200bn, that would mean 4600 stops, I've only had a quick look at the plan, admittedly, but I don't see 4600 stops, do you?

It genuinely worries me that you believe it would cost "hundreds of billions" to implement this, it really does, I find it shocking and a little bit disturbing.

When you walk into a shop, I bet the people working there have seen you coming from a mile off.

:facepalm:

:lol: Gupter got serious.

:lol: I'm never serious, I think I was beating round the bush a little before and he got distracted.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:21:22 PM
I think we need to find a middle ground here. Maybe it would cost tens of billions? :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:23:12 PM
I think we need to find a middle ground here. Maybe it would cost tens of billions? :lol:

£2-3bn. There, sorted. :) Now doctor Evil can go plan the latest Heathrow expansion....£400 Trillion Billion.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:26:48 PM
I think we need to find a middle ground here. Maybe it would cost tens of billions? :lol:

£2-3bn. There, sorted. :) Now doctor Evil can go plan the latest Heathrow expansion....£400 Trillion Billion.

Gotta get past the moaning c***s who live in the borough of Hillingdon first.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:28:11 PM
I think we need to find a middle ground here. Maybe it would cost tens of billions? :lol:

£2-3bn. There, sorted. :) Now doctor Evil can go plan the latest Heathrow expansion....£400 Trillion Billion.

Gotta get past the moaning c***s who live in the borough of Hillingdon first.

£1bn each in compensation...see...easy this s*** man.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:29:48 PM
I think we need to find a middle ground here. Maybe it would cost tens of billions? :lol:

£2-3bn. There, sorted. :) Now doctor Evil can go plan the latest Heathrow expansion....£400 Trillion Billion.

Gotta get past the moaning c***s who live in the borough of Hillingdon first.

£1bn each in compensation...see...easy this s*** man.  :lol:

Nah, there'd still be some grumpy f*** who refuses to move out of their 1 bedroom bungalow next door to a f***ing European-hub airport.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:31:24 PM
Hundreds of billions man! f***ing hundreds of them...
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:33:14 PM
Nee wonder his lass keeps hitting cars when parking considering what he's shown her 12 inches is.

Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:34:17 PM
Well this thread got a bit heated :laugh:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stephen927 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:37:35 PM
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Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:41:18 PM
after tacking the p*ss* you decided to actually read the content of the discussion — top class that — you’re quick to take the p*ss I’ll give you that!

that plan is vast and includes NINE bridges/tunnels over the Tyne and the Wear, including across the widest part of the Tyne — can’t think why anyone’s not tried that before!

That Edingburgh tram line is only 10 miles long too.

you’d cost that all that at a billion!!!!!!!!! “such an absolutely preposterous estimation” indeed.


penny dropping yet?

Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:46:50 PM
Literally billions of pennies dropping here mate.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 05:50:15 PM
after tacking the p*ss* you decided to actually read the content of the discussion — top class that — you’re quick to take the p*ss I’ll give you that!

that plan is vast and includes NINE bridges/tunnels over the Tyne and the Wear, including across the widest part of the Tyne — can’t think why anyone’s not tried that before!

That Edingburgh tram line is only 10 miles long too.

you’d cost that all that at a billion!!!!!!!!! “such an absolutely preposterous estimation” indeed.


penny dropping yet?



I'm quick to take the p*ss because you're an incredibly easy target.

I gave my estimate at a billion after a quick skim over the plans, I gave you a guarantee that it would be closer to my estimate than yours, care to dispute that?

To make it simpler for you, as you clearly struggle, do you genuinely think these plans will cost more than £100bn? I'm giving you another chance to revise your initial, retarded estimation.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:02:06 PM
Ill take a educated guess and say that this expansion if it went ahead, which it never will...certainly not in that capacity anyways would cost upwards of £3 Billion.

Here's my reasoning, to renew a set of Auto Half Barriers, thats renew not a new install is over £500k, to install a single set of points, again replacement not new install will set you back £10k, a single sleeper installed generally costs around £90 - £120, a single signal will cost around £1k installed.  Thats the cheap side of things, buying the land, planning, approval, new stations, new bridges, new infrastructure to surround the metro, these are the expensive items.


Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:13:51 PM
after tacking the p*ss* you decided to actually read the content of the discussion — top class that — you’re quick to take the p*ss I’ll give you that!

that plan is vast and includes NINE bridges/tunnels over the Tyne and the Wear, including across the widest part of the Tyne — can’t think why anyone’s not tried that before!

That Edingburgh tram line is only 10 miles long too.

you’d cost that all that at a billion!!!!!!!!! “such an absolutely preposterous estimation” indeed.


penny dropping yet?


I'm quick to take the p*ss because you're an incredibly easy target.

I gave my estimate at a billion after a quick skim over the plans, I gave you a guarantee that it would be closer to my estimate than yours, care to dispute that?

To make it simpler for you, as you clearly struggle, do you genuinely think these plans will cost more than £100bn? I'm giving you another chance to revise your initial, retarded estimation.
you still don’t get it, you take the p*ss out of someone without even reading the thread, and you refer to me as “retarded”.

and you “give me a chance” to redeem myself — what a tool — “care to dispute”?

and yes I think it would cost at least £100bn — clearly it was a ball park statement in the first place — “as you struggle” I’ll emphasise the point I was making is that the plan is ridiculous and would never be implemented because of the excessive costs.

then you came in — take the p*ss without being able to read — and it’s: I’d build that vast Metro network and all those bridges for £1bn — and you still want to be self-righteous?

Stick to smileys eh?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:18:47 PM
after tacking the p*ss* you decided to actually read the content of the discussion — top class that — you’re quick to take the p*ss I’ll give you that!

that plan is vast and includes NINE bridges/tunnels over the Tyne and the Wear, including across the widest part of the Tyne — can’t think why anyone’s not tried that before!

That Edingburgh tram line is only 10 miles long too.

you’d cost that all that at a billion!!!!!!!!! “such an absolutely preposterous estimation” indeed.


penny dropping yet?


I'm quick to take the p*ss because you're an incredibly easy target.

I gave my estimate at a billion after a quick skim over the plans, I gave you a guarantee that it would be closer to my estimate than yours, care to dispute that?

To make it simpler for you, as you clearly struggle, do you genuinely think these plans will cost more than £100bn? I'm giving you another chance to revise your initial, retarded estimation.
you still don’t get it, you take the p*ss out of someone without even reading the thread, and you refer to me as “retarded”.

and you “give me a chance” to redeem myself — what a tool — “care to dispute”?

and yes I think it would cost at least £100bn — clearly it was a ball park statement in the first place — “as you struggle” I’ll emphasise the point I was making is that the plan is ridiculous and would never be implemented because of the excessive costs.

then you came in — take the p*ss without being able to read — and it’s: I’d build that vast Metro network and all those bridges for £1bn — and you still want to be self-righteous?

Stick to smileys eh?

You're the one putting words into my mouth (figuratively speaking), I never said anything of the sort. :facepalm:

I'm far from the only one having a laugh at your expense in this thread, friend.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:20:23 PM
You've made me lose my erection too, btw.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: WashyGeordie on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:27:17 PM
They can't even maintain and look after the ones they've got already, this is a terrible idea.

It's like a single mam of 4 living off benefits getting pregnant with twins and happy about it due to get some more money out of us all.
Biggest complaint would be the lack of a facility to pay without coins. Pretty ridiculous that they haven't got card facilities and then have inspectors galore.

Quote from: Wiki
Current developments
[edit] 'Metro: All Change programme' Phase 1
Phase 1 will see new ticket machines and barriers installed at major stations such as Monument (pictured).

In 2011 new ticket machines accepting notes and cards at all stations, and barriers at 13 main stations are being installed. These stations are Monument, Haymarket, St James, Manors, Jesmond, West Jesmond, Gateshead, Heworth, Central, South Gosforth, North Shields, South Shields and Airport. The modernisation of Haymarket station, funded through private development, was completed on 29 March 2010.[18] and a new station at Simonside opened in March 2008. An upgrade of platforms at Sunderland and the modernisation of several other stations is included in this phase. The cost of this scheme is £55.2m and is expected to be completed in 2010. Also included in this phase is the strengthening and overhaul of the footbridge at Jarrow Station.

Nexus is investing £1 million as part of the all change programme to replace six lifts on the system with new, quieter, more efficient ones. These are at Monument, Central, Gateshead, South Shields and Chichester, with works starting in July 2009 and lasting until 2010. The programme also includes overhauling infrastructure including communications, track and overhead power lines, structures and embankments.

 O0

Don't forget the Scumberland expansion was on existing tracks.

Most of the routes on that map are either non-existing or public footpaths.

And according to Wiki aswell, it's only going to be the Washington and Seaham line's where they're going to be using exsisting tracks (if it goes through of course)

Quote
Washington,[20] either via the disused Leamside line or a new route. Present planning may lead to the Leamside line being opened at least as far as Washington as a conventional rail line for passengers as well as freight, although this could be shared with Metro trains in the same way as the line from Pelaw Junction to Sunderland. In 2009 ATOC suggested reopening the Leamside line as far south as Washington.[21] On 12 July 2010 local MP Sharon Hodgson started an online Petition on the website of local radio station Sun FM to get Metro extended to Washington.[22]
Blyth & Ashington, running on existing little-used freight lines. Northumberland Park station has been built to provide a link to a potential new rail service to these communities; if opened, it will not be a part of the Metro system.

Extension north to Killingworth and Cramlington has been planned since Metro was on the drawing board but would require widening of the busy East Coast Main Line to four tracks, which would be expensive, or a new alignment involving street running.

The West End of Newcastle would require new track involving tunnelling and bridging in rough terrain; this would be very costly and is perhaps least likely to receive funding, though would probably have the highest potential ridership.

Ryhope, in southern Sunderland, has been mooted as an extension using existing railway lines. This route is under criticism due to the reduction in Northern Rail services that would be likely to have to follow.

Seaham, a proposal drawn up by Tyne and Wear Passenger Authority to use the existing Durham coast line south of Sunderland.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:32:05 PM
Surely the expansion to the darkside didn't cost hundreds of billions? And that's still pretty recently built.

I'd say at a guess that the map won't get done soon, there's just too many to build for one expansion, but even if it's done one by one is progress and say, they built a few more in the next 5 years for what need's one, ie. Metro Centre, West End and maybe the Shields connection etc etc.
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.

You're still sticking with the "hundreds of billions" prediction? :lol: Unbelievable.

I've had a quick look, and I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea, yet I can still give you a cast-iron, Gupter Guarantee that I will be an awful lot more accurate than you. :lol:
I’ve quoted you to make it easier for you.

The plan is ridiculously vast. You took the p*ss on my ball bark figure without even looking at the map that others had also commented on — classy.

Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: James on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:34:29 PM
I work for a company who do the majority of tram projects in Britain, and can tell you that it won't cost £100bn
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stephen927 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:36:26 PM
The one thing Gupter decides to be serious about, the f***ing Tyne and Wear Metro.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:38:08 PM
I work for a company who do the majority of tram projects in Britain, and can tell you that it won't cost £100bn
fare enough, don’t suppose you build bridges, road infrastructure, et al, too?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:38:46 PM
Surely the expansion to the darkside didn't cost hundreds of billions? And that's still pretty recently built.

I'd say at a guess that the map won't get done soon, there's just too many to build for one expansion, but even if it's done one by one is progress and say, they built a few more in the next 5 years for what need's one, ie. Metro Centre, West End and maybe the Shields connection etc etc.
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.

You're still sticking with the "hundreds of billions" prediction? :lol: Unbelievable.

I've had a quick look, and I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea, yet I can still give you a cast-iron, Gupter Guarantee that I will be an awful lot more accurate than you. :lol:
I’ve quoted you to make it easier for you.

The plan is ridiculously vast. You took the p*ss on my ball bark figure without even looking at the map that others had also commented on — classy.



As before, a vile misquote from you.

"I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea", doesn't really translate as "I’d build that vast Metro network and all those bridges for £1bn" now, does it? Thinking again though, to a clear simpleton like yourself, it could do. :undecided:

I will repeat, once again. My initial estimation of £1bn, is guaranteed to be a hell of a lot closer than your initial estimation of "hundreds of billions". I never even needed to look at the plans, because that is such a phenomenally ridiculous estimation I think you should actually be sectioned.

As I said, there doesn't seem to be anyone backing you up here, but plenty are taking the p*ss, that should probably tell you something, I know it would if I was retarded also.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:39:44 PM
Still can't actually believe this, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:43:23 PM
Might start calling you BarrackObama.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:43:51 PM
I work for a company who do the majority of tram projects in Britain, and can tell you that it won't cost £100bn
fare enough, don’t suppose you build bridges, road infrastructure, et al, too?

If he did, he'd definitely send the bill to you.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:44:12 PM
Might start calling you BarrackObama.

:megusta:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:45:26 PM
I reckon it'll cost close to a thousand billion dollars like. Easy
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:46:56 PM
Surely the expansion to the darkside didn't cost hundreds of billions? And that's still pretty recently built.

I'd say at a guess that the map won't get done soon, there's just too many to build for one expansion, but even if it's done one by one is progress and say, they built a few more in the next 5 years for what need's one, ie. Metro Centre, West End and maybe the Shields connection etc etc.
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:

Gazillion? :laugh:
hundreds of billions is a correct term, gazillion is fictitious.

the tram build cost in Edinburgh is getting close to one billion £’s for 23 stops.

you dickheads care to take an estimated cost?

I've not even seen the plans, but I know that there is no way it'll be hundreds of billions. :lol:

Also, don't get so touchy over it, hundreds of billions ffs. :lol:
there’s a map on the bottom of page 2 marked as a spoiler, the plans are vast.

come back to me with your ball park figure.

You're still sticking with the "hundreds of billions" prediction? :lol: Unbelievable.

I've had a quick look, and I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea, yet I can still give you a cast-iron, Gupter Guarantee that I will be an awful lot more accurate than you. :lol:
I’ve quoted you to make it easier for you.

The plan is ridiculously vast. You took the p*ss on my ball bark figure without even looking at the map that others had also commented on — classy.



As before, a vile misquote from you.

"I'll say a billion, because I have absolutely no idea", doesn't really translate as "I’d build that vast Metro network and all those bridges for £1bn" now, does it? Thinking again though, to a clear simpleton like yourself, it could do. :undecided:

I will repeat, once again. My initial estimation of £1bn, is guaranteed to be a hell of a lot closer than your initial estimation of "hundreds of billions". I never even needed to look at the plans, because that is such a phenomenally ridiculous estimation I think you should actually be sectioned.

As I said, there doesn't seem to be anyone backing you up here, but plenty are taking the p*ss, that should probably tell you something, I know it would if I was retarded also.
you didn’t need to look at the plans to estimate. And I’m the retarded one.

and when you did glance at them you couldn’t see that it was a ridiculous estimate based on ridiculous plans.


Oh know, am I loosing a popularity contest.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:48:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GTV8l.gif)
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 06:58:44 PM
Would love it if the actual price landed exactly half way between the two estimations so we could all laugh at you both and call you names.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:04:59 PM
Would love it if the actual price landed exactly half way between the two estimations so we could all laugh at you both and call you names.

Tens of billions?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:14:45 PM
aye back to the smilies etc,

didn’t read, or remember what you wrote. Carry on.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:15:27 PM
Would love it if the actual price landed exactly half way between the two estimations so we could all laugh at you both and call you names.

Tens of billions?
About 50 billion will do the trick :smug:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:20:20 PM
aye back to the smilies etc,

didn’t read, or remember what you wrote. Carry on.

 :memelol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:40:52 PM
I can see parts of this project going ahead in one form or the other, the Leamside line and the Blyth and Tyne extensions, however the latter in particular would be incredibly difficult to engineer. 
The extension to Blyth would have to run along side the current railway, it would be extremely expensive to install a new line along side the main line.  its impossible for metro to run on the main line, firstly for traffic issues secondly because metro uses DC and main line uses AC.  I just cant see how they could possibly get to Cramlington and beyond tbh.

I forgot to add earlier, to design and install the interlocking for this kind of proposal would be an amazing figure alone.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:53:48 PM
I can see parts of this project going ahead in one form or the other, the Leamside line and the Blyth and Tyne extensions, however the latter in particular would be incredibly difficult to engineer. 
The extension to Blyth would have to run along side the current railway, it would be extremely expensive to install a new line along side the main line.  its impossible for metro to run on the main line, firstly for traffic issues secondly because metro uses DC and main line uses AC.  I just cant see how they could possibly get to Cramlington and beyond tbh.

I forgot to add earlier, to design and install the interlocking for this kind of proposal would be an amazing figure alone.
doesn’t the metro share the train lines to Sunderland though?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 07:55:41 PM
I can see parts of this project going ahead in one form or the other, the Leamside line and the Blyth and Tyne extensions, however the latter in particular would be incredibly difficult to engineer. 
The extension to Blyth would have to run along side the current railway, it would be extremely expensive to install a new line along side the main line.  its impossible for metro to run on the main line, firstly for traffic issues secondly because metro uses DC and main line uses AC.  I just cant see how they could possibly get to Cramlington and beyond tbh.

I forgot to add earlier, to design and install the interlocking for this kind of proposal would be an amazing figure alone.
doesn’t the metro share the train lines to Sunderland though?

No AC overheads there though, only diesels run with exception of the metro.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 08:00:47 PM
I can see parts of this project going ahead in one form or the other, the Leamside line and the Blyth and Tyne extensions, however the latter in particular would be incredibly difficult to engineer. 
The extension to Blyth would have to run along side the current railway, it would be extremely expensive to install a new line along side the main line.  its impossible for metro to run on the main line, firstly for traffic issues secondly because metro uses DC and main line uses AC.  I just cant see how they could possibly get to Cramlington and beyond tbh.

I forgot to add earlier, to design and install the interlocking for this kind of proposal would be an amazing figure alone.
doesn’t the metro share the train lines to Sunderland though?

No AC overheads there though, only diesels run with exception of the metro.
OK, cheers.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: S.S.R. on Wednesday 21 September 2011, 08:04:02 PM
Would love it if the actual price landed exactly half way between the two estimations so we could all laugh at you both and call you names.

Tens of billions?

That would have been my uneducated guess.

Some info here about potential upgrades and what they'd entail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_and_Wear_Metro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_and_Wear_Metro)
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Bowie on Sunday 25 September 2011, 01:32:48 PM
Might start calling you BarrackObama.

:megusta:

Eh?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 25 September 2011, 01:48:45 PM
Might start calling you BarrackObama.

:megusta:

Eh?

I'm not entirely sure what Stu was on about, but I like being compared to you.

:sweetjesus:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Bowie on Sunday 25 September 2011, 01:55:43 PM
Would have been nee doubt hilarious like.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Sunday 25 September 2011, 02:19:04 PM
The UK has a GDP of about 1.5 trillion pounds, or 1500 Billion pounds.  I'm pretty sure we won't spend 1/15th of our entire GDP on some f***ing metro upgrades.

Which tit suggested it would cost that much?!
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Sunday 25 September 2011, 02:26:33 PM
Would have been nee doubt hilarious like.

Oooh, paranoid parrot rears his head.

Clearly, you didn't see Ali getting serious about something as trivial as the metro :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Bowie on Sunday 25 September 2011, 02:32:57 PM
f*** YOU!
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Sunday 25 September 2011, 02:36:04 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: TheGuv on Sunday 25 September 2011, 02:55:01 PM
You never know if they do expand the Metro system we might get another musical :fwap:





Tyne & Wear Metro the Musical - BBC Newcastle and BBC Look North (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V80Isj9JK1s#ws)



Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 25 September 2011, 03:03:33 PM
The UK has a GDP of about 1.5 trillion pounds, or 1500 Billion pounds.  I'm pretty sure we won't spend 1/15th of our entire GDP on some f***ing metro upgrades.

Which tit suggested it would cost that much?!

Mucky01
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 25 September 2011, 03:04:10 PM
Would have been nee doubt hilarious like.

Oooh, paranoid parrot rears his head.

Clearly, you didn't see Ali getting serious about something as trivial as the metro :lol:

Neither did I. :scared:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Sunday 25 September 2011, 03:48:53 PM
The UK has a GDP of about 1.5 trillion pounds, or 1500 Billion pounds.  I'm pretty sure we won't spend 1/15th of our entire GDP on some f***ing metro upgrades.

Which tit suggested it would cost that much?!

Mucky01

sp*****.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 25 September 2011, 03:49:33 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Sunday 25 September 2011, 06:38:01 PM
The UK has a GDP of about 1.5 trillion pounds, or 1500 Billion pounds.  I'm pretty sure we won't spend 1/15th of our entire GDP on some f***ing metro upgrades.

Which tit suggested it would cost that much?!

Mucky01
so you’re still incapable of reading. I clearly stated it would cost ridiculous amounts of money so would never go ahead.

then you came along taking the p*ss and throwing insults at me before then declaring that you had never even read the discussion or looked at the ridiculous plans making you a complete tool.

the only people that have stated that there’s a possibility of that plan going ahead are the people who drafted it, who are clearly idiotic — any relation to you?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Sunday 25 September 2011, 07:23:38 PM
nah, you can smiley all you want, he’s a tool.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 25 September 2011, 08:15:13 PM
:lol: :lol:

Hundreds of billions man. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Aphrodite on Sunday 25 September 2011, 08:34:56 PM
You never know if they do expand the Metro system we might get another musical :fwap:





Tyne & Wear Metro the Musical - BBC Newcastle and BBC Look North (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V80Isj9JK1s#ws)





:lol: Had forgotten how s*** that was.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: TheGuv on Sunday 25 September 2011, 09:30:53 PM
:lol: :lol:

Hundreds of billions man. :lol:

This keeps making me laugh man :lol:

The fact that he's sticking with his quite frankly ridiculous over exaggeration of a figure is mind boggling.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Sifu on Sunday 25 September 2011, 09:40:28 PM
:lol: :lol:

Hundreds of billions man. :lol:

This keeps making me laugh man :lol:

The fact that he's sticking with his quite frankly ridiculous over exaggeration of a figure is mind boggling.

He seems very wound up about it too :iamatwat:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 25 September 2011, 09:55:19 PM
Would love Durham to get it's own Metro, doubt it would ever work though.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 25 September 2011, 10:01:32 PM
Would love Durham to get it's own Metro, doubt it would ever work though.

You can walk it in half an hour, ffs.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 25 September 2011, 10:13:11 PM
Would love Durham to get it's own Metro, doubt it would ever work though.

You can walk it in half an hour, ffs.
I meant the County mate. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 25 September 2011, 11:16:11 PM
Would love Durham to get it's own Metro, doubt it would ever work though.

You can walk it in half an hour, ffs.
I meant the County mate. :lol:

Christ, you really are a nobber.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: johnnypd on Monday 26 September 2011, 08:07:10 AM
Spoiler
[close]


Canny interesting to see what'll happen in 2013.

this map has nothing to do with nexus looking at routes for expansion, it was done by some russian lad on skyscrapercity. he's clearly mental if he thinks a massive circular line through the middle of nowhere connecting rowlands gill and stanley to cramlington and throckle [sic] while going nowhere near newcastle city centre is a valid idea.

these are the areas nexus are studying to see how viable and expensive expansions would be, and what sort of technology they'd have to use.

Seaham – Sunderland- South Shields
Sunderland – Doxford International
Newcastle city centre- west Newcastle
Four Lane Ends – Killingworth
Pelaw – Washington – South Hylton
Gateshead town centre - Metrocentre
Newcastle city centre - Walker
Gateshead town centre – Team Valley
Percy Main – Silverlink – Cobalt- Northumberland Park

Some of these will probably be dropped due to cost -ie West End expansion which is the most needed and would have the most dramatic effects, but would also be the most expensive as it would have be tunneled under relatively dense inner city. others might be dropped due to low perceived demand or benefits. then of the few that turn into concrete proposals (albeit whittled down to something more modest) - probably small and cheap tram lines, guided busways, or joining Sunderland to South Shields - maybe one, perhaps two will receive some sort of partial funding.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Monday 26 September 2011, 01:04:47 PM
Spoiler
[close]


Canny interesting to see what'll happen in 2013.

this map has nothing to do with nexus looking at routes for expansion, it was done by some russian lad on skyscrapercity. he's clearly mental if he thinks a massive circular line through the middle of nowhere connecting rowlands gill and stanley to cramlington and throckle [sic] while going nowhere near newcastle city centre is a valid idea.

these are the areas nexus are studying to see how viable and expensive expansions would be, and what sort of technology they'd have to use.

Seaham – Sunderland- South Shields
Sunderland – Doxford International
Newcastle city centre- west Newcastle
Four Lane Ends – Killingworth
Pelaw – Washington – South Hylton
Gateshead town centre - Metrocentre
Newcastle city centre - Walker
Gateshead town centre – Team Valley
Percy Main – Silverlink – Cobalt- Northumberland Park

Some of these will probably be dropped due to cost -ie West End expansion which is the most needed and would have the most dramatic effects, but would also be the most expensive as it would have be tunneled under relatively dense inner city. others might be dropped due to low perceived demand or benefits. then of the few that turn into concrete proposals (albeit whittled down to something more modest) - probably small and cheap tram lines, guided busways, or joining Sunderland to South Shields - maybe one, perhaps two will receive some sort of partial funding.
it seems some divs on here find that map plausible though.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Monday 26 September 2011, 01:07:43 PM
Spoiler
[close]


Canny interesting to see what'll happen in 2013.

this map has nothing to do with nexus looking at routes for expansion, it was done by some russian lad on skyscrapercity. he's clearly mental if he thinks a massive circular line through the middle of nowhere connecting rowlands gill and stanley to cramlington and throckle [sic] while going nowhere near newcastle city centre is a valid idea.

these are the areas nexus are studying to see how viable and expensive expansions would be, and what sort of technology they'd have to use.

Seaham – Sunderland- South Shields
Sunderland – Doxford International
Newcastle city centre- west Newcastle
Four Lane Ends – Killingworth
Pelaw – Washington – South Hylton
Gateshead town centre - Metrocentre
Newcastle city centre - Walker
Gateshead town centre – Team Valley
Percy Main – Silverlink – Cobalt- Northumberland Park

Some of these will probably be dropped due to cost -ie West End expansion which is the most needed and would have the most dramatic effects, but would also be the most expensive as it would have be tunneled under relatively dense inner city. others might be dropped due to low perceived demand or benefits. then of the few that turn into concrete proposals (albeit whittled down to something more modest) - probably small and cheap tram lines, guided busways, or joining Sunderland to South Shields - maybe one, perhaps two will receive some sort of partial funding.
it seems some divs on here find that map plausible though.

Anything is possible when you throw hundreds of billions of pounds at it.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Monday 26 September 2011, 01:18:06 PM
:lol:

I don't actually recall anyone saying that the map is plausible. ???
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 26 September 2011, 02:03:14 PM
:lol: :lol:

Hundreds of billions man. :lol:

Never thought this would be the thread to have me in stitches at 9am on a Monday morning, but it's happening.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 26 September 2011, 02:40:26 PM
Hundreds of Billions. Still classic :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Mucky01 on Monday 26 September 2011, 04:29:44 PM
:lol:

I don't actually recall anyone saying that the map is plausible. ???
OK then, you declared it ‘financially’ plausible when you said that ridiculous project could be done for a billion.

Which along with the plan is clearly stupid.

Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Monday 26 September 2011, 04:59:13 PM
:lol:

I don't actually recall anyone saying that the map is plausible. ???
OK then, you declared it ‘financially’ plausible when you said that ridiculous project could be done for a billion.

Which along with the plan is clearly stupid.



It might not be economically viable but that's not what Ali has commented on.

Need a new spade?
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: ChicagoMagpie on Monday 26 September 2011, 05:04:04 PM
How much is a single fare on the metro these days ?   Have not been back to Newcastle for 3 years now, but will be home for Christmas, New Year.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 26 September 2011, 05:04:39 PM
How much is a single fare on the metro these days ?   Have not been back to Newcastle for 3 years now, but will be home for Christmas, New Year.

£12.50
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: ChicagoMagpie on Monday 26 September 2011, 05:06:56 PM
How much is a single fare on the metro these days ?   Have not been back to Newcastle for 3 years now, but will be home for Christmas, New Year.

£12.50

 :kasper:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Monday 26 September 2011, 05:08:26 PM
That's peak-time though, it's a bit cheaper if you travel between outside of 7am-9.30am. It's much, much cheaper between 11.30pm and 5.30am
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: ChicagoMagpie on Monday 26 September 2011, 05:11:49 PM
God dam inflation,   I bet a Taxi from the airport to Walkerville will cost about £90 then
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 26 September 2011, 05:13:28 PM
God dam inflation,   I bet a Taxi from the airport to Walkerville will cost about £90 then

£650 if you take an Airport Taxi, but if I were you I'd walk outside and give Lansdowne a call, they'll easily charge less than £600.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Monday 26 September 2011, 05:13:48 PM
God dam inflation,   I bet a Taxi from the airport to Walkerville will cost about £90 then

Nah, not that much, I think SEMTEX got one to Forest Hall for £52 last time he was home.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Disco on Monday 26 September 2011, 08:48:17 PM
How much is a single fare on the metro these days ?   Have not been back to Newcastle for 3 years now, but will be home for Christmas, New Year.

£1.50 - £3 depending on how far you're going [/i'mnothumorous]
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Keefaz on Monday 26 September 2011, 08:52:32 PM
Years of disruption for the forum more like. I tried to go on Toontastic but it was poo.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: TheGuv on Monday 26 September 2011, 08:59:09 PM
Years of disruption for the forum more like. I tried to go on Toontastic but it was poo.

Aye my thoughts :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 26 September 2011, 09:56:21 PM
How much is a single fare on the metro these days ?   Have not been back to Newcastle for 3 years now, but will be home for Christmas, New Year.

£1.50 - £3 depending on how far you're going [/i'mnothumorous]

Not sure you needed that closing tag like

(http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/trollca.png)
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 17 October 2011, 06:00:31 PM
On a slightly different subject, are the Buzzfare bus passes only for Go North East? From Chester-le-Street to Regent Centre it costs me £7.60 (bus to Gateshead Interchange, metro to RC) and I'm convinced there must be a cheaper way.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Monday 17 October 2011, 06:14:44 PM
On a slightly different subject, are the Buzzfare bus passes only for Go North East? From Chester-le-Street to Regent Centre it costs me £7.60 (bus to Gateshead Interchange, metro to RC) and I'm convinced there must be a cheaper way.

You're saving loads of money, it should be costing hundreds of billions.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 17 October 2011, 06:16:11 PM
On a slightly different subject, are the Buzzfare bus passes only for Go North East? From Chester-le-Street to Regent Centre it costs me £7.60 (bus to Gateshead Interchange, metro to RC) and I'm convinced there must be a cheaper way.

You're saving loads of money, it should be costing hundreds of billions.

Ah thats a relief. Quite a saving, actually.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Stu on Monday 17 October 2011, 06:29:23 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 October 2011, 12:30:09 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15478580 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15478580)

Billions just aren't big enough any more, mucky.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 24 November 2011, 06:32:32 PM
No Metros at all on Wednesday if the public sector strike goes ahead.  Guess that's me going to work on the 308 then :undecided:

Be ironic if people can't get to the trade union march in Newcastle because the metro drivers are on strike :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 15 June 2012, 01:31:14 PM
Second strike on the 21st called off.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 15 June 2012, 01:44:11 PM
Good, could have cost 10 or 20 billion in lost revenue.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 15 June 2012, 01:49:00 PM
Good, could have cost 10 or 20 billion in lost revenue.

:bluestar:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: TheGuv on Friday 15 June 2012, 05:31:07 PM
Good, could have cost 10 or 20 billion in lost revenue.

:bluestar:

:lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: colinmk on Tuesday 6 August 2013, 04:24:40 PM
Hundreds of billions.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 6 August 2013, 04:26:17 PM
just a shame that the potential for such moments in the future have been stolen from us
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 27 September 2013, 11:15:25 AM
Metro causing disruption to the A1!

http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/83118/is-anywhere-safe-from-metro-delays-carriage-crash-causes-hold
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: maybe_next_year on Friday 27 September 2013, 02:58:41 PM
"Is anywhere safe" ffs :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: TheGuv on Friday 27 September 2013, 06:29:06 PM
Hundreds of billions.  :lol: :lol:

:lol:

Still crack up whenever I see this
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: PCW1983 on Friday 27 September 2013, 07:49:13 PM
I've been reliably informed that during their recent renewal works they removed the track and placed it back in the wrong place, they'd have got away with did they not have two sets which are the original test sets, they are 20mm wider then the rest......anyways, one of the wider sets got wedged into a platform.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: fraz77 on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 01:06:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0EEucaCQuA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 01:45:53 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 02:00:59 PM
But I'm too young to die...
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 03:34:36 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-passengers-react-angrily-safety-6227563
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 05:08:13 PM
All i can think of when this is bumped is that tool saying 'hundreds of billions' :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: geordie_b on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 05:26:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0EEucaCQuA&feature=youtu.be

Rip off of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: TheHoob on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 05:39:01 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-passengers-react-angrily-safety-6227563

Pretty much every incident in that video is down to drivers being bellends, especially the one with the lady with the two walking sticks. It was obvious she was trying to get on and the driver just closed the doors like a c***, wasn't as if she was legging it from somewhere out of view. Most of the others too if the driver had just checked in his mirror before pulling off he might have seen that there was a person hanging half in half out the door  :lol:

Hundreds of billions  :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 06:19:09 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-passengers-react-angrily-safety-6227563

It is the shittest ever safety video ever made like.  "Obstruct the doors and you'll get decapitated" ffs.  Also agree with people saying the doors don't stay open long enough.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 08:12:50 PM
When I'm working in Glasgow or London I don't have to sprint for a tube train and try and get on before the doors close because I know there'll be another one in under 5 minutes.  With the Metro if you miss one you're stuck there for 12 minutes at the best of times, and given the current state of the system you could be stood there for f***ing ages waiting for a conked out train and cursing the fact you didn't jump on even though the warning tone was sounding.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 08:15:24 PM
When I'm working in Glasgow or London I don't have to sprint for a tube train and try and get on before the doors close because I know there'll be another one in under 5 minutes.  With the Metro if you miss one you're stuck there for 12 minutes at the best of times, and given the current state of the system you could be stood there for f***ing ages waiting for a conked out train and cursing the fact you didn't jump on even though the warning tone was sounding.

It's a pathetic service, has been since nexus took it over, the useless c***s. I'd hate to have to rely on it, wonder how many work hours have been lost down to the metros being s*** this month alone? Probably hundreds of billions. They should be charged for it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 08:56:14 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-passengers-react-angrily-safety-6227563

It is the shittest ever safety video ever made like. "Obstruct the doors and you'll get decapitated" ffs.  Also agree with people saying the doors don't stay open long enough.

They told us something similar back at primary school, was something along the lines of "someone got their hand chopped off by the Metro doors, so please behave yourself whilst getting the Metro". Needless to say, telling that to 6 year olds did work to some extent, also scared a bit of us too.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 08:58:04 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-passengers-react-angrily-safety-6227563

It is the shittest ever safety video ever made like. "Obstruct the doors and you'll get decapitated" ffs.  Also agree with people saying the doors don't stay open long enough.

They told us something similar back at primary school, was something along the lines of "someone got their hand chopped off by the Metro doors, so please behave yourself whilst getting the Metro". Needless to say, telling that to 6 year olds did work to some extent, also scared a bit of us too.

Told my kid the last stop is newcastle prison. So f***ing behave.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 09:00:36 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-passengers-react-angrily-safety-6227563

It is the shittest ever safety video ever made like. "Obstruct the doors and you'll get decapitated" ffs.  Also agree with people saying the doors don't stay open long enough.

They told us something similar back at primary school, was something along the lines of "someone got their hand chopped off by the Metro doors, so please behave yourself whilst getting the Metro". Needless to say, telling that to 6 year olds did work to some extent, also scared a bit of us too.

but it wasn't in the form of a s*** animation and a poxy song?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 23 October 2013, 09:14:20 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-passengers-react-angrily-safety-6227563

It is the shittest ever safety video ever made like. "Obstruct the doors and you'll get decapitated" ffs.  Also agree with people saying the doors don't stay open long enough.

They told us something similar back at primary school, was something along the lines of "someone got their hand chopped off by the Metro doors, so please behave yourself whilst getting the Metro". Needless to say, telling that to 6 year olds did work to some extent, also scared a bit of us too.

but it wasn't in the form of a s*** animation and a poxy song?

I wish.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Thursday 24 October 2013, 03:25:53 AM
What a load of s***, i stuck the dogs head in the door and it just opened up again.

Seriously though, they never made a video when it was popular to sit on the coupler...that really was dangerous.

Applying the Emergency brake, riding the coupler, pushing the windows out, boring metro.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sima on Thursday 24 October 2013, 06:52:51 AM
Stuck the dog's head in the door :lol:

'Here boy!. Ha, daft c***.'
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 24 October 2013, 07:21:32 AM
When I'm working in Glasgow or London I don't have to sprint for a tube train and try and get on before the doors close because I know there'll be another one in under 5 minutes.  With the Metro if you miss one you're stuck there for 12 minutes at the best of times, and given the current state of the system you could be stood there for f***ing ages waiting for a conked out train and cursing the fact you didn't jump on even though the warning tone was sounding.
:clap:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 24 October 2013, 07:30:32 AM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.
Still. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheGuv on Thursday 24 October 2013, 07:49:46 AM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.
Still. :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol:

Still love that
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bowie on Thursday 24 October 2013, 11:17:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zkJOUIg.png)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 24 October 2013, 11:20:44 PM
Have to applaud Nexus on their constant trolling of the public, some effort.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bowie on Thursday 24 October 2013, 11:23:56 PM
It's f***ing unbelievable. :lol: Last month it took me two hours to get home from work because some daft c*** drivers forgot their sunglasses. They had to get health and safety out as if the sun was some sort of revelation. f***ing ridiculous, no idea why they haven't blocked me on Twitter yet. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 24 October 2013, 11:26:06 PM
f***s sake :lol:

Can imagine the abuse they get the on the Twitter, fully deserved like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Friday 25 October 2013, 08:02:57 AM
The amount of delays is incredulous man.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 25 October 2013, 09:17:05 AM
Took ages to get home last night from haymarket.  Absolutely f***ing rammed. 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 25 October 2013, 10:55:15 AM
Slightly worrying how often you get on a metro that smells of burning.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Friday 25 October 2013, 12:42:54 PM
Guaranteed to be problems if it's hot/cold/rainy/windy like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 25 October 2013, 12:55:28 PM
Took ages to get home last night from haymarket.  Absolutely f***ing rammed. 

Aye, I got delayed last night 1 train in 15 minutes at rush hour is a joke.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 25 October 2013, 12:56:19 PM
The amount of delays is incredulous man.

Honestly, seems like there are more delays since the big upgrade in the summer.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Friday 25 October 2013, 12:58:23 PM
The amount of delays is incredulous man.

I don't recall it being this bad years back when I used to use the metro every day. It seems like there are problems every day at the moment, and we're not even into proper winter yet.

My bus has been pretty s***, but that's down to general traffic on the route.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 25 October 2013, 01:04:50 PM
Slightly worrying how often you get on a metro that smells of burning.

noticed that the other day.  Very odd
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Friday 25 October 2013, 01:13:38 PM
Slightly worrying how often you get on a metro that smells of burning.

noticed that the other day.  Very odd

Brakes burning from overloaded carriages you'd imagine.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 25 October 2013, 01:23:04 PM
Took ages to get home last night from haymarket.  Absolutely f***ing rammed. 

Aye, I got delayed last night 1 train in 15 minutes at rush hour is a joke.

The first train to the coast was rammed couldn't get on and then the next two were for the airport and then south gosforth where virutally no one got on. madness!!!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 25 October 2013, 01:24:16 PM
Slightly worrying how often you get on a metro that smells of burning.

noticed that the other day.  Very odd

Brakes burning from overloaded carriages you'd imagine.

IM sort of lucky in the morning, theres usally a metro thats empty and starts at monkseaton.  So i always get a seat on the way in.  I shudder to think what would happen if a metro caught fire in rush hour.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Friday 25 October 2013, 04:55:06 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zkJOUIg.png)

And if course the irony is......it was leaves on the line.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: fraz77 on Friday 25 October 2013, 05:16:00 PM
It's f***ing unbelievable. :lol: Last month it took me two hours to get home from work because some daft c*** drivers forgot their sunglasses. They had to get health and safety out as if the sun was some sort of revelation. f***ing ridiculous, no idea why they haven't blocked me on Twitter yet. :lol:

This, I am very surprised they haven't had enough of my sarcastic comments yet, they certainly have more patience than Lee Ryder did although a toddler probably has more patience and more of a brain compared to that cretin
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr Venkman on Friday 25 October 2013, 05:17:28 PM
I hate them.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ToonTastic on Friday 25 October 2013, 05:48:24 PM
First time I've read this thread, very funny. Hundreds of billions man!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Friday 25 October 2013, 06:10:45 PM
Was sat opposite the vilest smelling creature in the history if mankind yesterday, proper rammed so I couldn't move either. Kept scratching his balls and snuffing them too.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Neil on Friday 25 October 2013, 06:14:39 PM
Hundreds of billions. :lol: :lol: It's not getting old.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Friday 25 October 2013, 07:28:23 PM
Hundreds of billions. :lol: :lol: It's not getting old.
It's the way he defends his point with everything he's got that gets me every time. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 25 October 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Slightly worrying how often you get on a metro that smells of burning.

Noticed that the last two days, both times just before getting into Palmersville & just before Jesmond.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr Venkman on Saturday 26 October 2013, 11:37:27 AM
They f*** up at least one of my days every week, at least. It's astonishing considering the amount of ground they cover compared to mainline services, how can you get it so wrong so often?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Saturday 26 October 2013, 11:56:32 AM
They f*** up at least one of my days every week, at least. It's astonishing considering the amount of ground they cover compared to mainline services, how can you get it so wrong so often?

Their maintenance regime isn't as thorough as say Network Rails, in fact it's no where near it. They generally operate on a fire fighting basis, that is they do little maintenance and just attend faults as they come. Keeps the costs down, especially when you have no one to answer to for delays.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Andymc1 on Saturday 26 October 2013, 11:57:37 AM
First time I've read this thread, very funny. Hundreds of billions man!

 :lol: Aye, just read it myself - absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: madras on Saturday 26 October 2013, 12:17:03 PM
Slightly worrying how often you get on a metro that smells of burning.

Noticed that the last two days, both times just before getting into Palmersville & just before Jesmond.
it's the brakes isn't it because their brakes grip the rail as opposed to the wheels, or so I'm told.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr Venkman on Saturday 26 October 2013, 03:18:52 PM
They f*** up at least one of my days every week, at least. It's astonishing considering the amount of ground they cover compared to mainline services, how can you get it so wrong so often?

Their maintenance regime isn't as thorough as say Network Rails, in fact it's no where near it. They generally operate on a fire fighting basis, that is they do little maintenance and just attend faults as they come. Keeps the costs down, especially when you have no one to answer to for delays.

Fixing the windows so they don't let water in during light rain would be a start.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 28 October 2013, 09:47:45 PM
Not exactly Metro but it's travel-related:

What's the best way to get from Newcastle to Blyth? Cheapish, quick etc.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Monday 28 October 2013, 09:48:29 PM
Not exactly Metro but it's travel-related:

What's the best way to get from Newcastle to Blyth? Cheapish, quick etc.

308
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 28 October 2013, 09:49:40 PM
Cheers :thup:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 28 October 2013, 09:50:49 PM
aye, 308.

Another bus from Haymarket goes that way as well, it may be an express but cant remember the number.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Foluwashola on Monday 28 October 2013, 09:51:00 PM
Or the X10/11.

After some heroin?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 28 October 2013, 09:53:10 PM
Or the X10/11.

After some heroin?

Nailed it in one, aye.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 29 October 2013, 07:54:51 AM
Not exactly Metro but it's travel-related:

What's the best way to get from Newcastle to Blyth? Cheapish, quick etc.

Check here for some help. :thup:

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58693.0.html
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 30 October 2013, 09:20:23 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/woman-survives-two-metro-trains-6253932
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Craig-NUFC on Thursday 31 October 2013, 04:57:56 PM
Tyne and Wear Metro ‏@My_Metro
To show what 'leaves on the line' looks like; here's a photo we took today of some track. It should be shiny.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BX6f3PMCIAA8jsO.jpg)

Hundreds of billions of leaves on the track.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Thursday 31 October 2013, 05:59:21 PM
Sigh. They've f***ed up on the new tracks, haven't they? Every day now the trains are 10 minutes late and packed. I wouldn't mind if they held their hands up and admitted it and it took another month to fix it, but leaves on the line is a pathetic excuse. FFS. Hundreds of billions of people rely on their service.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: leffe186 on Thursday 31 October 2013, 07:50:32 PM
Not exactly Metro but it's travel-related:

What's the best way to get from Newcastle to Blyth? Cheapish, quick etc.

Check here for some help. :thup:

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58693.0.html

Still the greatest. Pity so many of the images are gone (including the greatest of all, the South Park one).
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Monday 4 November 2013, 10:25:11 AM
Metro taken out of service again this morning, I've used it 4 times in the last fortnight and twice the train I've been on has been taken out of service, the other two times they were apologising for delays :lol:

I'd have drove in if I knew there were delays, but the sign was knackered at Benton so I couldn't see anything  :idiot2:








Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BrettNUFC on Monday 4 November 2013, 03:58:22 PM
Anyone noticed like a friction burning smell on the metro these days? Probably the leaves, like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 4 November 2013, 03:59:22 PM
Anyone noticed like a friction burning smell on the metro these days? Probably the leaves, like.

Brakes ain't it, I only ever notice it when it's relatively full on a morning/matchday.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Spider Jerusalem on Monday 4 November 2013, 05:53:56 PM
It seems to be on every train I've been on for a while.  Can't be good for the commuters health!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 4 November 2013, 07:06:15 PM
MIne stank tonight. 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BrettNUFC on Monday 4 November 2013, 09:12:48 PM
It's not just busy metros, my nostrils were sizzling away on my way home from work, metro was quiet. It's an awful smell though. Waiting for them to mention it on twitter and see what their excuse is. I've no doubt they will blame leaves and brakes.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 7 November 2013, 12:29:14 PM
Anybody got a link to that YouTube video of that charva stuck in the metro station?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bowie on Thursday 7 November 2013, 04:53:34 PM
Ahh man! Really wanna see this again. :lol: What was the bloke called? Absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 7 November 2013, 04:59:55 PM
Was it Joe?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bowie on Thursday 7 November 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Aye!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT6ncfQzrYg

:lol: :lol: Get in.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 7 November 2013, 07:14:47 PM
One of the hidden gems of the internet that. Disgracefully low view count.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Thursday 7 November 2013, 07:19:35 PM
  Seen the comment saying its his one legged uncle? :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 07:18:24 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-26737711

I suspect this will cost 100's of billions.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: biggs on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 07:38:13 PM
f*** me not more unwashed heading north  :dave:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 07:51:37 PM
Everything an anything into drawing people into Newcastle as the regional hub.  This will get the go ahead.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 11:27:48 PM
Be better surely to extend it to the East End rather than those yokels?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 11:29:37 PM
Be better surely to extend it to the East End rather than those yokels?

West, but yes. Or even north. f*** knows why we'd want more of those c***s in our city.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 11:35:11 PM
"New Metro trains are planned to be in use by 2030."
I should f***ing hope so as well. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 11:36:38 PM
Could easily put a new line south through Gateshead. Missed opportunity it isn't there already.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 11:37:08 PM
Be better surely to extend it to the East End rather than those yokels?

West, but yes. Or even north. f*** knows why we'd want more of those c***s in our city.

Aye that's the one. It's late :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 11:40:16 PM
There's 60 stations already?!?! Didn't think it was that many.

I guess places like Fenham, Blyth, Washington etc should get a station.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 25 March 2014, 11:45:08 PM
There's 60 stations already?!?! Didn't think it was that many.

I guess places like Fenham, Blyth, Washington etc should get a station.

Yes, no, no.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 08:47:50 AM
If it's anything like the proposed map doing the rounds then I hope they are good at tunnelling.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 09:46:05 AM
There's 60 stations already?!?! Didn't think it was that many.

I guess places like Fenham, Blyth, Washington etc should get a station.

Yes, no, no.

:(
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 10:45:35 AM
If it's anything like the proposed map doing the rounds then I hope they are good at tunnelling.

Have you got a link to the map? I can't find it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 11:12:30 AM
If it's anything like the proposed map doing the rounds then I hope they are good at tunnelling.

Have you got a link to the map? I can't find it.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-push-300m-new-train-6872372
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 11:18:17 AM
Blyth, urgh.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 11:39:14 AM
Cheers PCW.

Wonder where the South Gateshead station would be?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Matt on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 11:48:44 AM
SE Northumberland has suffered massively for being slightly on the wrong side of the TWPTE (or whatever it be called now) divide. God knows how many thousands sit in misery on the A1 every morning while Cramlington and Morpeth are served by 1 train an hour to Central Station and no-one else even gets a look in.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 12:35:02 PM
Cheers PCW.

Wonder where the South Gateshead station would be?

No idea, the area is so dense now i can't see how they would get it above ground and piggy backing the ECML would be out of the question.  I suppose station wise you might want to aim for the QE hospital.


This is quite interesting....

http://www.lrta.org/tynewear.html

See Project Orpheus.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 12:47:02 PM
Aren't they wanting to use Trams for a few of the routes proposed?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 01:02:54 PM
Hope it gets extended to Blyth, which will no doubt eventually pave the way for the introduction of the Metro to Ashington.  :llorente?:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Matt on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 02:23:25 PM
That would involve Northumberland CC spending money Zaius, so zero chance of that.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 03:17:38 PM
First step Ashington, next step end of the world.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: maybe_next_year on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 04:11:31 PM
First step Ashington, next step end of the world.

pretty sure they're the same thing .
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 March 2014, 05:34:42 PM
I'd love the Ashington-Morpeth connection to be made just to see the people of Morpeth's reaction when all the Ashington lot come flooding there for their holidays.

Seriously though there is a chance some of this will happen, there is already a lot of network additions being made in the North East.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 27 March 2014, 12:02:42 AM
I'd love the Ashington-Morpeth connection to be made just to see the people of Morpeth's reaction when all the Ashington lot come flooding there for their holidays.

Seriously though there is a chance some of this will happen, there is already a lot of network additions being made in the North East.
Some of SENRUG's proposals open up the possibility of a Ashington to Morpeth connection.

I think SENRUG are missing a trick here though, they seem to be trying to get heavy rail to open up on the Blyth and Tyne line. In my opinion it would be far better to electrify that line for Metro use, insert a link at Northumberland Park for Metro trains to join on the line and make it a full section of the Metro. That way you open up the possibility of people in Blyth and Ashington to be able to travel to other parts of Tyneside more easily, whilst opening up more stations in the city centre of Newcastle instead of having to use Central station (which lets be honest isn't exactly central). You also then make it so there isn't an increase in demand of usage of the ECML between Central station and Benton.   
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 27 March 2014, 01:56:56 PM
You spelt SEMTEX wrong.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 27 March 2014, 02:10:35 PM
I have no involvement in the proposed expansion of the Tyne & Wear Metro system.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Thursday 27 March 2014, 02:20:17 PM
Pheww.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Saturday 29 March 2014, 11:13:59 AM
Just seen a news article about this, for any of it to go ahead it will have to be government funded.

:-/
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 29 March 2014, 01:33:37 PM
i was wondering about that, why f***ing privatise something that you then still have to fund with public money to improve/maintain?  fuckwits
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 29 March 2014, 01:38:18 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

They’ll build half a dozen new stations tops in the next 20 years.

 :lol: never gets old.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Saturday 29 March 2014, 09:47:38 PM
There was a broken down bus in town on Friday night so I got the metro to Four Lane Ends then waited 10-15 minutes for a bus to Killingworth and I still got home earlier than if I'd got the "express" bus. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Saturday 29 March 2014, 09:58:12 PM
Hundreds of billions, man :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 1 May 2014, 06:01:00 PM
Major delays this evening due to a p*ssed bloke falling on the tracks at Gateshead.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 1 May 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Major delays this evening due to a p*ssed bloke falling on the tracks at Gateshead.

Gazza fell of the wagon (platform) again?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 24 October 2014, 10:05:06 AM
@northumbriapol Emergency Services are currently responding to a report of a fire on a @My_Metro train between Hadrian Road & Howdon stations.



Which metro describe vaguely on social media as a 'police incident' :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 24 October 2014, 10:15:48 AM
I got in no bother today, stepped on an empty metro from Monkseaton.  the lass at work who gets on at Walkerville was knackard tho, she had to drive in.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 October 2014, 11:47:42 AM
It's been f***ing useless the last week, customer service is appalling as well I had a right argument with a bitchy one last Saturday.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 24 October 2014, 11:50:01 AM
It's been f***ing useless the last week, customer service is appalling as well I had a right argument with a bitchy one last Saturday.

Yeah their customer service is minging like.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 24 October 2014, 11:51:31 AM
For ease of use.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,74047.msg3234933.html#msg3234933
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Decky on Friday 24 October 2014, 11:59:00 AM
There's a place over there called Pity Me? :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ian W on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:00:23 PM
There's a place over there called Pity Me? :lol:

Yep, ahead of Cockermouth and Hetton le Hole for me.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:05:47 PM
It's been f***ing useless the last week, customer service is appalling as well I had a right argument with a bitchy one last Saturday.

Yeah their customer service is minging like.



They've spent thousands advertising round town that they've got more staff these days n all. What a waste,
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:09:33 PM
There's a place over there called Pity Me? :lol:

Yep, ahead of Cockermouth and Hetton le Hole for me.

And Spital Tongues
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:10:18 PM
Fatfield and Cowgate
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:11:57 PM
Went to a stay in a barn up by Wooler the other week and passed a little place called Throwup Burn.  I've had that before.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:13:29 PM
It's been f***ing useless the last week, customer service is appalling as well I had a right argument with a bitchy one last Saturday.

Yeah their customer service is minging like.



They've spent thousands advertising round town that they've got more staff these days n all. What a waste,

Massive one on the Gateshead side of the Redheugh Bridge, pointless.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:13:49 PM
Anyone follow the 'metro apologises' page on facebook? It's class :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/metroapologises?fref=ts

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We're all about the breaks, 'bout the breaks, 'bout the breaks, no timetable. - Trains delayed, metro apologises.

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Switch to TrainStation - Sky channel 937 to speak to one of our drivers after hours. They're ready and waiting to take your call now.

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Blowing in our operating systems cartridge doesn't seem to be fixing anything. - Trains delayed, metro apologises.

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Shy bairns get trout at North Shields this evening if they fancy it. - Trains delayed, metro apologises.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:13:56 PM
Fatfield and Cowgate

Fatfield is one of the few decent places in Washington.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 October 2014, 12:15:32 PM
Anyone follow the 'metro apologises' page on facebook? It's class :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/metroapologises?fref=ts

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We're all about the breaks, 'bout the breaks, 'bout the breaks, no timetable. - Trains delayed, metro apologises.

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Switch to TrainStation - Sky channel 937 to speak to one of our drivers after hours. They're ready and waiting to take your call now.

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Blowing in our operating systems cartridge doesn't seem to be fixing anything. - Trains delayed, metro apologises.

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Shy bairns get trout at North Shields this evening if they fancy it. - Trains delayed, metro apologises.

Follow their twitter, amusing while an actually delay is on.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ste on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:07:59 PM
Used the Metro for the first time in years last Saturday. Spent 45 minutes waiting for a train and then we were packed on like sardines. Not a great experience like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Neil on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:10:39 PM
Hundreds of billions. :lol: :lol: The entire national budget on the Metro.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:12:45 PM
Does anyone know what this 300m upgrade has actually been spent on?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:13:43 PM
Couldn't get on two trains in a row the other morning because they were so packed, took me an hour and a bit to make it from Benton to town.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:15:02 PM
I miss living near a metro station but it seemed to take absolutely ages to get into town after the 5-a-side the other day, including a train being withdrawn at Wallsend.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:23:14 PM
Metros have been gash of late
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Was the same last year, they forgot to check these new trains worked in the British autumn before spunking money on them.  Hence constant delays due to 'low rail adhesion'
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ian W on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:27:48 PM
Having moved down south basically straight after uni, I always forget commuters have problems in Newcastle too.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ste on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:50:43 PM
Surprised me also how you still get arseholes trying to jump on the train while loads of people are trying to get off. How far do you think they'll get when the aisles are full of people queuing to get off at Monument. f*** me.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 24 October 2014, 01:58:15 PM
Surprised me also how you still get arseholes trying to jump on the train while loads of people are trying to get off. How far do you think they'll get when the aisles are full of people queuing to get off at Monument. f*** me.

This annoys me to no end.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ste on Friday 24 October 2014, 02:21:28 PM
It's not like most people hang around. The metro is in such a state, that every f***er can't wait to get off.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 24 October 2014, 02:22:53 PM
It's not like most people hang around. The metro is in such a state, that every f***er can't wait to get off.

What amazes me is that the metro wil be full but people dont move to accomodate new passengers or move down the carriage, they just hang around at the doors.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ste on Friday 24 October 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Guess they're panicky in case they're away from the doors and the train pulls away before they have a chance to get there.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 24 October 2014, 02:57:55 PM
Guess they're panicky in case they're away from the doors and the train pulls away before they have a chance to get there.

Nah, its just stupidity.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 24 October 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Hundreds of billions. :lol: :lol: The entire national budget on the Metro.

It's his incredulity when people questioned it that got me. As if everyone else was in the wrong. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 25 October 2014, 12:38:16 AM
There's a place over there called Pity Me? :lol:

:lol: Should be called Oh, Come On, Really?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 25 October 2014, 12:45:53 AM
Couldn't get on two trains in a row the other morning because they were so packed, took me an hour and a bit to make it from Benton to town.

It's all about the elbows and shoulders, man. Women and children last. :lol:

Always wear a backpack too, that seems to create some room. Never take it off and hit people in the head randomly without any self-awareness. Honestly, I've been so close to violence. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Wullie on Saturday 25 October 2014, 12:46:09 AM
My aunty and cousin live in Pity Me. :milner:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 25 October 2014, 12:55:26 AM
My aunty and cousin live in Pity Me. :milner:

Sorry Mate. Really, really sorry. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 25 October 2014, 02:20:25 AM
There's also a No Place for anyone else that's ignant as f***.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 25 October 2014, 03:15:42 AM
Surprised me also how you still get arseholes trying to jump on the train while loads of people are trying to get off. How far do you think they'll get when the aisles are full of people queuing to get off at Monument. f*** me.

This annoys me to no end.

It's not like most people hang around. The metro is in such a state, that every f***er can't wait to get off.

What amazes me is that the metro wil be full but people dont move to accomodate new passengers or move down the carriage, they just hang around at the doors.

Wew, I have honestly built this up in my mind like it's just a problem you have on the tube due to people down here being rude as f***, Newcastle being a polite paradise in comparison.  The tube completely depresses me, it's dog-eat-dog and you have to detach yourself from it or it'll ruin your day/life.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 25 October 2014, 03:39:29 AM
Happens all over the world.  The lesson to take from this is that people are c***s everywhere.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 25 October 2014, 03:45:19 AM
I think it's just worse on overcrowded public transport, people get stressed and treat other people like s***.  It's not acceptable to me, when I always manage to treat others with courtesy because you just should, but it's an explanation.  Once you're out of that situation every morning you get on with your day and most people aren't dicks.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 25 October 2014, 07:55:09 AM
Surprised me also how you still get arseholes trying to jump on the train while loads of people are trying to get off. How far do you think they'll get when the aisles are full of people queuing to get off at Monument. f*** me.

This annoys me to no end.

It's not like most people hang around. The metro is in such a state, that every f***er can't wait to get off.

What amazes me is that the metro wil be full but people dont move to accomodate new passengers or move down the carriage, they just hang around at the doors.

Wew, I have honestly built this up in my mind like it's just a problem you have on the tube due to people down here being rude as f***, Newcastle being a polite paradise in comparison.  The tube completely depresses me, it's dog-eat-dog and you have to detach yourself from it or it'll ruin your day/life.

Its generally polite when its a semi full metro but when its running slightly late, every f***er goes every man for himself.

A week or so ago I posted on my facebook about some f***ing woman barging through to on a half empty metro from Haymarket, I let the first metro to the coast go past as it was rammed.  I then waited in the same point where the doors would open,when the next metro arrived.  A mini gaggle of people formed around me in the same place.  Metro pulls up, no one gets off so i go to step on and this woman barges past me to get to an empty seat to the left.  The metro was half empty.

I just dont get it.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 25 October 2014, 10:09:14 AM
standing near the doors is the best place to be on the metty, simples
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 25 October 2014, 11:07:32 AM
Does anyone know what this 300m upgrade has actually been spent on?
A lot of it's been waisted. A couple of years ago I was speaking to a family member who works for Wabtec who are doing the Metro car refurbishments in Doncaster. He told me that Nexus were being stupid with their demands, the point in the refurbishment process. The initial point in it was to refurbish the mechanical side of things, however Nexus started focusing on the design side of things and started insisting that Wabtec did things like use invisible rivets on the body of the Metro cars which was very costly and time consuming. At the time he said that it was unlikely to be completed on time, certainly not within budget and that he though that there wouldn't be enough money left to complete all the Metro cars. I shared this information on the Skyscrapercity forums, from there someone else repeated it on the Nexus forums. Nexus immediately dismissed this information and then a few weeks later went public with it's overspend and how some Metro cars will not be able to have the refurbishment done. My understanding was that Nexus were happy to keep quiet about the whole thing and give the Metro cars that weren't refurbished a lick of paint to match those that were and not let anyone notice.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 25 October 2014, 11:10:17 AM
I blame the tories

NPW
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 25 October 2014, 11:16:06 AM
Also Neesy, I'd like to point out that so far the Metro has been granted about £700m, not £300m. Money has been spent elsewhere on station improvements (some have been rebuilt), new track (a lot of fixing the structural integrity on the North Shields tunnel), new lift replacements at stations, new level crossings, signal improvements, new ticket barriers, new ticket machines etc. It is still holding out for another £300m or so which will mean new Metro cars, again track replacements, station upgrades again, possibly a new station in South Tyneside, and possibly Metro dedicated track in South Tyneside where it currently shares a track with Network rail.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Sunday 26 October 2014, 11:47:04 AM
Also Neesy, I'd like to point out that so far the Metro has been granted about £700m, not £300m. Money has been spent elsewhere on station improvements (some have been rebuilt), new track (a lot of fixing the structural integrity on the North Shields tunnel), new lift replacements at stations, new level crossings, signal improvements, new ticket barriers, new ticket machines etc. It is still holding out for another £300m or so which will mean new Metro cars, again track replacements, station upgrades again, possibly a new station in South Tyneside, and possibly Metro dedicated track in South Tyneside where it currently shares a track with Network rail.

They are having to buy parts off Ebay for the metro due to the age and lack of spares available, they've also spent a bucket load of money on a Graffiti Removal Team, their aim is to have any graffiti removed within 24 hours of receiving the report. 

Ask a metro driver how fast they are going, they can give you a number with a +- 10KPH variance, thats as good as it gets.  No graffiti though.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 26 October 2014, 04:42:39 PM
Does anyone know what this 300m upgrade has actually been spent on?
A lot of it's been waisted.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/02/article-2618606-1D84508300000578-639_634x421.jpg)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 26 October 2014, 09:41:36 PM
:lol: Crossed my mind too but I've been outed as a pedant already so let it pass.

:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Si on Sunday 26 October 2014, 09:42:33 PM
Does anyone know what this 300m upgrade has actually been spent on?
A lot of it's been waisted.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/02/article-2618606-1D84508300000578-639_634x421.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Sunday 26 October 2014, 09:47:49 PM
Does anyone know what this 300m upgrade has actually been spent on?
A lot of it's been waisted.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/02/article-2618606-1D84508300000578-639_634x421.jpg)
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 28 October 2014, 03:39:16 PM
We are running a frequent service. Trains are running to all destinations with delays system wide. This is due to low rail adhesion and signalling fault at Jarrow. Please leave extra time for your journey

 Updated at 15:35, Tuesday, 28 October 2014
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 09:16:36 AM
Nightmare this morning, absolute nightmare...

Left the house at 07:42 only got to work at 08:50  :undecided:

Then some idiots had the windows opena dn it was freezing.   :yikes:

The service since mid to late september has been really hit and miss and we haven't suffered any bad weather yet.  :frantic:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 09:41:06 AM
Sure I was on the same metro as you last night Gimp.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 09:56:22 AM
Sure I was on the same metro as you last night Gimp.

From haymarket?

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:30:11 AM
I was sat down but think I clocked you on it at Four Lane Ends?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:41:14 AM
I was sat down but think I clocked you on it at Four Lane Ends?

Navy blue coat, thick rimmed goggs, grey trousers, hair cut way to short and looking sick as fck.  Aye that was me.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:48:15 AM
Certainly f***ing was.  :snod:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:52:46 AM
It was packed!!!

Divvnt shout "gimp" across the carriage tho.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:53:11 AM
Apparently the 'technical problems' they had on Sunday was not having enough drivers.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 11:01:04 AM
Apparently the 'technical problems' they had on Sunday was not having enough drivers.

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 11:04:46 AM
They were advertising for new drivers not long back. I was gonna apply, but then I just carried on living my life.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 03:07:30 PM
They were advertising for new drivers not long back. I was gonna apply, but then I just carried on living my life.
Should have applied, you could have often turned up late for work and no one would be any the wiser.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 03:35:44 PM
I swear they've been modernising the f***ing lifts at Jesmond and Benton since the dawn of the Bronze Age.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 07:45:04 PM
Nexus are a disgrace. Can't do owt right and on time. Everytime I see a metro station or one passing I thank my lucky stars I've another mode of transport, even if it's f***ing walking.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 07:59:55 PM
I swear they've been modernising the f***ing lifts at Jesmond and Benton since the dawn of the Bronze Age.
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140225194627/bigbangtheory/images/f/fc/The-nerdvana-annihilation-full-7-1-.jpg)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:05:07 PM
They were advertising for new drivers not long back. I was gonna apply, but then I just carried on living my life.

 :lol: My dream job when I was about 6.

One of my teachers at school reckoned they're on about £30k though. No idea how true that is.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:09:39 PM
They were advertising for new drivers not long back. I was gonna apply, but then I just carried on living my life.

 :lol: My dream job when I was about 6.

One of my teachers at school reckoned they're on about £30k though. No idea how true that is.
They are, they advertise that they can get over £30k upon training completion.
Most of the drivers are from the pre-metro era and are former train and bus drivers. Metro have only trained a few members of staff over the years, now these drivers who have been with Metro from when it first opened are beginning to retire, hence why they are low on drivers.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:14:22 PM
Mint.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:29:50 PM
Mint.

:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 10:30:14 PM
 :best:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheGuv on Wednesday 5 November 2014, 12:04:11 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheGuv on Wednesday 5 November 2014, 12:04:28 AM
This thread never fails to make me laugh
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 5 November 2014, 08:15:18 AM
:lol:

Seen a few people moan on FB about constant delays this week.  :milner:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 5 November 2014, 02:40:44 PM
Those new LED screens on the metros that tell you where you are are class too.

Half the time they don't work so the train driver still has to gan "next station is Central Station" or whatever on the speaker system, and lately they've been bang wrong :lol: "THIS TRAIN TERMINATES AT THE NEXT STATION; MONKSEATON" emblazened across it all the way from Cullercoats to West Jesmond :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mattypnufc on Wednesday 5 November 2014, 03:32:25 PM
Apparently the 'technical problems' they had on Sunday was not having enough drivers.

 :lol: :lol:

After the few post match pints we tried to get one from town back down to the coast.  No s***.

"There has been a train taken out of service due to low driver resource".

f***ing hell man.

And aye, they're on around £30k p/y.  Lad who used to work at my old workplace left and was on that.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 8 November 2014, 11:16:10 AM
More problems this morning:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/delays-commuters-metro-passengers-reports-8072767
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Saturday 8 November 2014, 12:00:13 PM
Shock. Cant remember the last time I got the metro and there wasn't delays to service like. bit of a disgrace all in all like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 8 November 2014, 12:18:17 PM
fckin fix it you fckin mungs!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 8 November 2014, 12:27:02 PM
More problems this morning:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/delays-commuters-metro-passengers-reports-8072767
It's interesting to note that a lot of the train problems are happening to refurbished trains. I think we are going to need those new trains sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 8 November 2014, 07:22:53 PM
"Went on fire", ffs. What is wrong with proper English? "Caught ahad", obviously. Tut, tut.

Fire doesn't get another mention, like, but I suppose there's no smoke, etc.

Seriously, though, that's the second time recently on the Metro, and it must be scary. I've only ever been in a smoky situation once and I wasn't trapped there, but it gets in your eyes and throat and lungs and it ain't pleasant. They need to wake themselves up and tell us what the problem is. They have been unusually poor lately in general, never mind potentially asphyxiating their customers. That would be a bit of a PR gaffe, imo.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: JB on Sunday 9 November 2014, 02:42:04 AM
"Went on fire", ffs. What is wrong with proper English? "Caught ahad", obviously. Tut, tut.

Fire doesn't get another mention, like, but I suppose there's no smoke, etc.

Seriously, though, that's the second time recently on the Metro, and it must be scary. I've only ever been in a smoky situation once and I wasn't trapped there, but it gets in your eyes and throat and lungs and it ain't pleasant. They need to wake themselves up and tell us what the problem is. They have been unusually poor lately in general, never mind potentially asphyxiating their customers. That would be a bit of a PR gaffe, imo.

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 26 November 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Major delays again tonight.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Craig-NUFC on Wednesday 26 November 2014, 08:49:58 PM
Major delays again tonight.

Got shafted with a 30 minute delay, finally got on a Metro, got to two stops away from where I wanted to be then the driver said the train was terminating because of the train in front breaking down. Counted 6 different excuses as to the 30 minute delay and 2 excuses as to why the other train broke. f***ing hopeless.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 26 November 2014, 11:11:00 PM
It's been a disgrace for a few weeks now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 November 2014, 11:23:19 PM
The rolling stock is a shower of s****.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 27 November 2014, 10:04:15 AM
The rolling stock is a shower of s****.

How much is HS2 costing, 50 billion + and we dont even get a sniff of it in the north east.

A billion could replace all the crap we have as rolling stock.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 27 November 2014, 10:56:25 AM
Seems to be the new ones that keep conking out as well, rather than the ancient ones.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 27 November 2014, 10:57:53 AM
Touch wood, the metro has been running ok at about 5ish this week.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Craig-NUFC on Thursday 27 November 2014, 11:38:00 AM
Seems to be the new ones that keep conking out as well, rather than the ancient ones.

Was speaking to a woman whose husband works for Nexus and apparently the 'new' ones are just the old ones refurbished 'cause they p*ssed away the money on stupid s*** and wasted money on constantly ordering the wrong bits. So she reckons there are only a couple trains that are actually new. f*** knows if what she said is true but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 27 November 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Sounds about right.  I hate that f***ing ear-piercing shriek when the doors close on the new ones as well. 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Toondave on Thursday 27 November 2014, 01:12:30 PM
Seem to remember stifler mentioning something similar few page back
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 27 November 2014, 01:13:52 PM
They are all refurbished trains, they'd be a lot better if they were new.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 27 November 2014, 01:35:36 PM
Every single train is refurbished and stupidly when the ones that have been refurbished were done Nexus focused on the asthetics rather than the mechanics.

It's becoming clearer that the refurbishment programme isn't going to extend the life of the trains as it was supposed too and we will have to go in for trains sooner rather than later.
As the government has already spent the best part of £1bn on the modernisation programme so far it would be impossible for them to just pull the plug on the Metro now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jay Jay Sea on Sunday 30 November 2014, 09:08:25 AM
Metros are off between South Shields n Hebburn for 'repairs'. Robbing b******s should reimburse its customers, not hike up prices at end of the month. Worst service ever. Even more p*ssed if that lazy f***er I left in bed claims to need the car today. Double f***ing whammy.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 30 November 2014, 06:44:44 PM
Don't know if I've whined about this before, but people shouldn't be so arsey in the mornings. We're all tired and would rather be in bed, but we have to go to work. We're all in the same shitty boat. Don't elbow me when jostling for position on the platform, don't stand on my foot, don't hit me in the face with your backpack, students. I will win.

:lol: I had to NOT tell the missus that the guy standing next to her after her stroke scan was the one who'd called me a "f***ing prick" for no reason the previous week. She would have cleaned him out, and his lass, and the rest of the carriage if they tried to intervene. She was hopping mad when I broke the news, she hates me now. :lol: I love the mad bitch.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 8 December 2014, 04:52:01 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/haymarket-metro-station-forced-close-8246825?ICID=FB-Chron-main

This on the day Nexus have said things are getting better. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: maybe_next_year on Monday 8 December 2014, 06:55:01 PM
Went to the Gateshead match yesterday, 19 min wait to get there, 17 min wait to get back. Utterly shambolic, one of the few things that makes me glad I've moved away from Newcastle.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 9 December 2014, 03:01:57 PM
Went to the Gateshead match yesterday, 19 min wait to get there, 17 min wait to get back. Utterly shambolic, one of the few things that makes me glad I've moved away from Newcastle.  :lol:

17 minutes is only an extra 5 minutes wait.  Its not that bad.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: fraz77 on Tuesday 9 December 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Went to the Gateshead match yesterday, 19 min wait to get there, 17 min wait to get back. Utterly shambolic, one of the few things that makes me glad I've moved away from Newcastle.  :lol:

17 minutes is only an extra 5 minutes wait.  Its not that bad.

Only 2 minutes on a Sunday as they are every fifteen minutes anyway
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 09:23:25 AM
Went to the Gateshead match yesterday, 19 min wait to get there, 17 min wait to get back. Utterly shambolic, one of the few things that makes me glad I've moved away from Newcastle.  :lol:

17 minutes is only an extra 5 minutes wait.  Its not that bad.

Only 2 minutes on a Sunday as they are every fifteen minutes anyway

Thats the busiest section of the line, should only be a 6/7 minute wait during the week.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 09:27:18 AM
It's odd, whenever I've used the Metro I've rarely experienced any sort of major delay. But all I hear from others is basically one horror story after another. :lol: I think it could be a fantastic service but y'know, hundreds of billions and all that.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 09:47:25 AM
TBf its a good service but i t could be so much more.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 02:42:25 PM
I get p*ssed off if the metro is gonna be 2 minutes, 15 minutes is just silly.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Adam^ on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 02:43:49 PM
What happened to the pay as you go pop cards? I'm guessing they aren't going to enable them (giving some bullshit reason) because they are scamming people on the stupid zone system they currently have.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 05:36:05 PM
I'm having to use it this week, I think I may kill someone. Top annoying c***s:

1. Full of themselves student tossers
2. Chav brats on the way to school
3. Smelly old b******s
4. Jailbait mothers with no control of their kids
5. Miserable f***s sick of their lives
6. Arseholes with stereotypical chav dogs bigger than their IQ
7. Old slow walking women, who believe their shopping deserves a seat
8. Touchers. Those f***s who touch your hands with theirs, rest their head on your hand, back in to you, stand on your feet, have their guitar on their back swinging round in your face or generally invade your personal space a little more than they really needed to.

I hate you all. f*** off and die.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Foluwashola on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 05:41:38 PM
5 & 8  :okay:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 05:51:36 PM
Number 5 are just sick of the rest and have had to put up with them for far too long.

They bring you down though, travel long enough and you become them. And that's why I had to add them to the hate list.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 05:56:06 PM
So glad I only have to use the Metty on rare occasions 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 06:07:30 PM
You wouldn't last 5 minutes on the tube, TT. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 07:36:44 PM
As someone who has to use the bus daily, I don't mind my rare metro journeys.

Until I go somewhere abroad with an actual decent system and realise ours is s***.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 07:56:01 PM
You wouldn't last 5 minutes on the tube, TT. :lol:

 :lol: tbh i don't think i'd even get on during rush hour, in fact i doubt i'd even enter the station. I'm really not cut out for Capital life.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 10:01:19 PM
As someone who has to use the bus daily, I don't mind my rare metro journeys.

Until I go somewhere abroad with an actual decent system and realise ours is s***.

I was impressed with Barcelona's.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Toondave on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 10:04:42 PM
Might be lacking but I'd much rather have it than a tram system that's for sure. Hate those tracky b******s
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 10:06:31 PM
It's s**** compared to what it could/should be like but the area is so much better for having it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Wednesday 10 December 2014, 10:09:56 PM
In all seriousness, as s*** as the metro can ever be, its infinitely better than getting a bus anywhere like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 11 December 2014, 12:41:48 AM
Yesterday morning I was going into Newcastle just before rush hour kicks in. There was a crash just after the slip road at Wallsend which back traffic up to Norham road instead of the usual queues at Heaton, Corner house junction, and Sandyford/Cradlewell.
Without the Metro these queue would be a regular occurrence outside of rush hour, add on top one accident and the situation becomes much worse.

Sure right now the Metro is s***, and in my opinion that isn't going to increase much better until the new trains come but Tyneside and certainly Newcastle just can no longer handle the amount of increased car and even bus journeys not having the Metro would create. Since the Metro system was opened Newcastle itself has lost bus stations and many streets have became pedestrianised, add on top that there is only enough public parking spaces for somewhere between 5%-10% of the city's population and unlike other cities in the UK we do not have a large amount of regular railways stations in the wider area. With this in mind it would be impossible for Newcastle to actually function without the metro, thats not before you add on top the additional bus routes, parking spaces, and general road infrastructure the rest of Tyneside and to a certain extent Wearside would need to cope with the loss of the Metro.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bowie on Thursday 11 December 2014, 04:45:29 PM
You're definitely on their payroll like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 11 December 2014, 04:49:14 PM
:lol:

Agree with Neesy about needing more frequent services during rush hour mind.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 11 December 2014, 04:54:54 PM
:lol:

Agree with Neesy about needing more frequent services during rush hour mind.

From Haymartket aye.

Its death rage when you see 3 metro trains in a row going to the airport, regent centre and then airport again...Then to make matters worse students dont get on those to go a few stops , they lurk around for the costal train.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 11 December 2014, 04:55:42 PM
:lol:

Agree with Neesy about needing more frequent services during rush hour mind.

From Haymartket aye.

Its death rage when you see 3 metro trains in a row going to the airport, regent centre and then airport again...Then to make matters worse students dont get on those to go a few stops , they lurk around for the costal train.


Had that exact same rant the other day. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 11 December 2014, 04:56:39 PM
:lol:

Agree with Neesy about needing more frequent services during rush hour mind.

From Haymartket aye.

Its death rage when you see 3 metro trains in a row going to the airport, regent centre and then airport again...Then to make matters worse students dont get on those to go a few stops , they lurk around for the costal train.


Had that exact same rant the other day. :lol:

It just doesn't make amy sense, no sense whatsoever!

The majority of people go the coastal route.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: fraz77 on Thursday 11 December 2014, 10:51:15 PM
Yesterday morning I was going into Newcastle just before rush hour kicks in. There was a crash just after the slip road at Wallsend which back traffic up to Norham road instead of the usual queues at Heaton, Corner house junction, and Sandyford/Cradlewell.
Without the Metro these queue would be a regular occurrence outside of rush hour, add on top one accident and the situation becomes much worse.

Sure right now the Metro is s***, and in my opinion that isn't going to increase much better until the new trains come but Tyneside and certainly Newcastle just can no longer handle the amount of increased car and even bus journeys not having the Metro would create. Since the Metro system was opened Newcastle itself has lost bus stations and many streets have became pedestrianised, add on top that there is only enough public parking spaces for somewhere between 5%-10% of the city's population and unlike other cities in the UK we do not have a large amount of regular railways stations in the wider area. With this in mind it would be impossible for Newcastle to actually function without the metro, thats not before you add on top the additional bus routes, parking spaces, and general road infrastructure the rest of Tyneside and to a certain extent Wearside would need to cope with the loss of the Metro.

That's spot on, I keep saying this, we are fortunate to have the metro and the city could not function without it, its just a shame it is so poorly run (took me an hour and a half to get from the coast to the airport the other Sunday(!)), I have spent quite a lot of time in Bristol recently which is a similar sized city and they don't have anything like a metro system there and rely on buses and local trains which aren't integrated which results in massive gridlock much worse than anything seen in Newcastle.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 12 December 2014, 06:40:29 PM
You're definitely on their payroll like.
Not at all, I'm one of Nexus's biggest critics, the thing is I can see far beyond the problem now compared with the problems of not having a Metro would create. As much as it's bad now and it does need to be sorted, you cannot ignore the fact that Newcastle/Tyneside would stop functioning without the Metro. It's a fact that even the politicians will see, hence why I don't think they will pull the plug on it. Give us the cheapest trains and stuff you can find to keep it running, but not pull the plug on the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Rosenrot on Sunday 14 December 2014, 04:35:14 PM
Does NCC/NTC/STC etc have any responsibility for the metro?
Who at Nexus is accountable to the public?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 14 December 2014, 06:18:53 PM
Does NCC/NTC/STC etc have any responsibility for the metro?
Who at Nexus is accountable to the public?
Somewhat but, not directly.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 14 December 2014, 06:36:28 PM
You're definitely on their payroll like.
Not at all, I'm one of Nexus's biggest critics, the thing is I can see far beyond the problem now compared with the problems of not having a Metro would create. As much as it's bad now and it does need to be sorted, you cannot ignore the fact that Newcastle/Tyneside would stop functioning without the Metro. It's a fact that even the politicians will see, hence why I don't think they will pull the plug on it. Give us the cheapest trains and stuff you can find to keep it running, but not pull the plug on the whole thing.
It would but it doesn't mean that we should accept a shoddy service either.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 14 December 2014, 06:49:41 PM
Who has said we should be without the metro, or get rid of it? Everyone knows it's needed but it's run by fuckwits and gone to s*** ever since nexus got its hands on it.

Some of the carriages are a disgrace, the one I was on last week was something out of a museum and the last time anyone cleaned it the Berlin Wall was coming down. Worst thing is the service is so bad you sit there glad you are actually moving towards your destination and not waiting for endless amounts of time.

One thing I noticed last week when I had to use it is the times of the next trains are all over the place, jumping from 14mins to 8 then due in the space of a couple of minutes, then staying due for about 5mins after that.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Sunday 14 December 2014, 07:03:59 PM
I only use it South Gosforth to one of Haymarket, Monument or Central Station but very rarely have any problems.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Sunday 28 December 2014, 12:28:22 PM
Just had a comical experience at Four Lane Ends

Metro was due in 12 mins and went down to 9
Went back up to 18 mins
Got down to 12 then changed to 2 then due
Changed back to 12
Train approaches
Announcement & on screen: this train is not in service
Train was full of people
We got on and travelled to town
Some people stayed on the platform :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 28 December 2014, 12:47:22 PM
:lol: Love the random changes on the display, especially when two trains seem to be racing and overtaking each other, drawing level, one's in front, then the other. I always check the display, the front of the train, the announcement, the announcement IN the train, the display IN the train, and I've still ended up at Regent Centre having to cross over. :lol: I would hoy a few billion at getting communications right if I were in charge. The loudspeaker at Benton just says "zzzzzzzzzzzzzz" when the train's coming in. Pretty much the same as me in the morning, admittedly.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: M4 on Sunday 28 December 2014, 01:38:03 PM
That's metro minutes :lol:

The thing is relatively expensive too which makes you wonder where it all goes.

Don't really have horror stories with it as I don't depend on it for work, but see moanings about it on Facebook almost daily.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 28 December 2014, 01:42:30 PM
Metro minutes, I used to say that as well. :lol: How long is it? 4 minutes. Ah reet, mint. Well that's 4 Metro minutes, mind.

Agree it feels quite dear whenever i have to get it, certainly better value in London but then again you're almost always travelling further there.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Sunday 28 December 2014, 01:45:49 PM
It felt even more annoying today because we'd got on the bus for free as my uncle was driving, then got off and paid £2.60 for the metro thinking it'd be far better/quicker. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Slim on Sunday 28 December 2014, 07:33:07 PM
Never had a problem with the metro
Just learn to drive and buy a car.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 28 December 2014, 07:37:22 PM
It's mint I reckon , sorry guys. But from having to drive everywhere it's boss as f***
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 28 December 2014, 08:24:23 PM
It's mint I reckon , sorry guys. But from having to drive everywhere it's boss as f***

Oh, quite. I've never even considered bus or car over it, but I do like a whinge. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Monday 29 December 2014, 03:49:10 AM
Just had a comical experience at Four Lane Ends

Metro was due in 12 mins and went down to 9
Went back up to 18 mins
Got down to 12 then changed to 2 then due
Changed back to 12
Train approaches
Announcement & on screen: this train is not in service
Train was full of people
We got on and travelled to town
Some people stayed on the platform :lol:

On a train to Birmingham once and it stopped somewhere and the driver announced the train would be terminating here for some reason or other.  Everybody just ignored it and stayed where they were except for a few asian studenty looking folks who got off and went and stood on the platform.  A minute later the door buzzer went and the train carried on as normal.  The look on their faces as we pulled away with them watching on from the platform was priceless :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 8 January 2015, 12:53:32 PM
Completely f***ed today due to this morning's power cuts across Newcastle.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/tyne-wear-metro-shutdown-live-8404087
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 8 January 2015, 01:02:22 PM
Quote
Kathleen Brady (South Shields): "I was going to Newcastle Airport for a coffee & was stuck for over an hour. I was lucky my trip wasn't urgent."

You were lucky? Why not go for a coffee nearer to your f***ing house, instead of travelling across the entire metro map?! :lol:

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 8 January 2015, 01:32:34 PM
I was stuck at Ilford Road for an hour and a half this morning before saying that they were now going to open the doors to let people off. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: maybe_next_year on Thursday 8 January 2015, 01:35:14 PM
Quote
Kathleen Brady (South Shields): "I was going to Newcastle Airport for a coffee & was stuck for over an hour. I was lucky my trip wasn't urgent."

You were lucky? Why not go for a coffee nearer to your f***ing house, instead of travelling across the entire metro map?! :lol:



who goes to the airport just for a coffee, f***ing weirdo :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 8 January 2015, 01:45:23 PM
Had to go into town as a bus w*****, overestimated the time it would take me and ended up wandering around boots and superdrug buying shower gel I didn't need for an hour before work. Wonder if the Chronicle will print my story.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 8 January 2015, 02:32:29 PM
Been sat near South Gossy for almost half an hour now, waiting for the Metro in front to be taken off service. The driver apologizing every five pissing minutes is doing my frigging nut in. Nobody else has got on or off since you last said it man you f***ing dipshit, we're sat in the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 8 January 2015, 03:16:21 PM
Been sat near South Gossy for almost half an hour now, waiting for the Metro in front to be taken off service. The driver apologizing every five pissing minutes is doing my frigging nut in. Nobody else has got on or off since you last said it man you f***ing dipshit, we're sat in the middle of nowhere.

Hope you don't need a p*ss like as it was torture for me this morning. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 8 January 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Ahh man, any chance this will be reolsved by 17:00?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Thursday 8 January 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Quote
Kathleen Brady (South Shields): "I was going to Newcastle Airport for a coffee & was stuck for over an hour. I was lucky my trip wasn't urgent."

You were lucky? Why not go for a coffee nearer to your f***ing house, instead of travelling across the entire metro map?! :lol:



Whats the terrorism hotline number? f***ing sick bitch.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Spider Jerusalem on Thursday 8 January 2015, 11:09:39 PM
The only coffee shop I can think of that isn't air-side is Starbucks.  Just go to Nero's in South Shields if that's all your going up there for, or if the Metro journey to the airport is all part of the experience and enjoyment seek psychiatric help.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Friday 9 January 2015, 04:42:32 AM
I think you're being very unsympathetic towards someone who clearly has f*** all to do and nothing to live for.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 9 January 2015, 08:42:00 AM
Left the office at 17:01 , there was a metro St sat at ST James waiting.

Sweet.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 9 January 2015, 09:22:02 AM
Quote
Kathleen Brady (South Shields): "I was going to Newcastle Airport for a coffee & was stuck for over an hour. I was lucky my trip wasn't urgent."

You were lucky? Why not go for a coffee nearer to your f***ing house, instead of travelling across the entire metro map?! :lol:



Whats the terrorism hotline number? f***ing sick bitch.

Imagine travelling over an hour using two separate metros just to have a coffee in that wooden box of a place overlooking the Jet2 check in man :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 12 January 2015, 09:06:01 AM
1 hour 45 to get from Heworth to Four Lane Ends. Nice work dickheads.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 12 January 2015, 11:03:56 AM
Expecting the Metro to work when it's not exactly 13 degrees and less than 5mph wind :yao:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 12 January 2015, 11:22:44 AM
Dont even get me started on this today. 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 12 January 2015, 02:09:59 PM
Dont even get me started on this today. 

I was at Heworth (where it was already delayed due to signalling issues) when the ambulance came for someone in the other carriage. Another 10 minutes waiting, packed rush hour metro....'this train has now out of service, would all passengers please leave the platform'. Train leaves, 5 minutes later, exact same metro goes past in the other direction heading to South Shields., empty :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 12 January 2015, 02:16:22 PM
Dont even get me started on this today. 

I was at Heworth (where it was already delayed due to signalling issues) when the ambulance came for someone in the other carriage. Another 10 minutes waiting, packed rush hour metro....'this train has now out of service, would all passengers please leave the platform'. Train leaves, 5 minutes later, exact same metro goes past in the other direction heading to South Shields., empty :lol:

OH lord.

I left the house at 07:42 got to monkseaton metro st and there was already a metro sat there with its doors open but people walking away from it...As I got closer others were still sitting on it waiting.  The sign on the platform just said "Delays", so i thought I would take mu chances and sit on it...I waited 15 minutes with no updates, a simple "this train is not leaving for another 20 minutes" would have done, i could have then made a decision.  Anyway, i looked over to the other platform and its said the next metro was only 7 minutes wait.  Ran round that side and waited 15 minutes, no sign of it whatsoever.  So went for the bus.  Jumped on the 309 from Whitley bay, hit all the rush hour traffic, then up to shiremoor and new york, round the cobalt, then through battle hill, then the coast road then into town.

I was sick as a chip.

left the house at 7:42 arroved at 09:40.

 :lol: :lol:

They just give updates every 5 or 10 minutes so people can make other arrnagements instead of just letting people hang about.

Oh and the metro I was orginally waiting for my pal jumped on it after 08:15 and people told him  not to bother, he said it left 1 minute later.  Good customer services that like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 12 January 2015, 03:49:55 PM
http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/metro-disruption-apology

Quote
12 January 2015

Dear passenger

We want to say sorry for the severe disruption to your Metro service this morning, and last week.

A significant power failure affected our control centre just after 6:30am and trains were brought to a stop while we restored power and checked vital safety systems. This followed a similar incident last week when Metro was affected by a power failure across a large part of Tyneside.

We understand how difficult and frustrating it is for passengers when Metro is disrupted, and we are taking action to improve performance. We have begun an immediate programme to check and strengthen key electrical circuits, and we are investing £9m starting this year to upgrade radio communications. Engineers and maintenance teams are ready to deal with further problems caused by high winds and winter weather in the next few days.

We know our passengers want to see Metro performance improve and both Nexus and DB Regio Tyne & Wear Ltd, which operates trains on our behalf, are working hard to achieve that.

Our apologies

The Metro team
/quote]
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Troll on Monday 12 January 2015, 03:55:29 PM
http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/metro-disruption-apology

Quote
12 January 2015

Dear passenger

We want to say sorry for the severe disruption to your Metro service this morning, and last week.

A significant power failure affected our control centre just after 6:30am and trains were brought to a stop while we restored power and checked vital safety systems. This followed a similar incident last week when Metro was affected by a power failure across a large part of Tyneside.

We understand how difficult and frustrating it is for passengers when Metro is disrupted, and we are taking action to improve performance. We have begun an immediate programme to check and strengthen key electrical circuits, and we are investing £9m starting this year to upgrade radio communications. Engineers and maintenance teams are ready to deal with further problems caused by high winds and winter weather in the next few days.

We know our passengers want to see Metro performance improve and both Nexus and DB Regio Tyne & Wear Ltd, which operates trains on our behalf, are working hard to achieve that.

Our apologies

The Metro team

Not enough.  Try at least 15,000 times that figure.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 12 January 2015, 04:12:59 PM
:lol:

Wonder how much they increase fares to pay for that.......
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 12 January 2015, 04:15:57 PM
Failures will happen but at least give regular updates instead of just having people standing about on the platforms.  Mungs, its simple stuff.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Monday 12 January 2015, 05:17:54 PM
Delays currently due to a "tresspasser."

That tresspasser is a dog at Haymarket. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: cp40 on Monday 12 January 2015, 05:19:43 PM
Gimp Raging all over facebook :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 12 January 2015, 05:21:28 PM
The drivers always seem incredibly confused that people understandably start booting off when they decide to terminate trains on a whim, and leave everyone waiting a length of time that they can't determine for whenever another Metro fancies turning up.

The service is f***ing shocking in almost every area.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 12 January 2015, 05:30:51 PM
Btw, you can get refunds for delays.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 12 January 2015, 06:23:07 PM
Delays currently due to a "tresspasser."

That tresspasser is a dog at Haymarket. :lol:

Is that what it was.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LocalHero on Monday 12 January 2015, 06:57:51 PM
I was on the Metro from 6:40 until about 9 this morning.  Got off at Haymarket and got the bus to Quorum Business Park.  Had to pay for my bus ticket too.  The driver had no idea the Metros had been off.

I was also on the Metro coming home when the dog was on the tracks!  Not a good day.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheGuv on Monday 12 January 2015, 10:50:38 PM
Was a f***ing joke this morning like.

I ended up having to walk 30 minutes into work and was about 20 minutes late after standing on the platform like a lemon for f***ing ages. Like Gimp says a simple notice saying that you'll be realistically waiting x minutes would help a s*** ton
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Monday 12 January 2015, 11:07:48 PM
End up paying for a taxi to get to work today. Then it took 90 minutes to get home for f*cks sake. Also paid for couple of shorter taxi journeys from Central Station to my office thanks to big delays last week.

Think the Metro has been on time/train not failed on only one occasion since last Monday. And don't get me started on the piece of sh*t station barriers and card swiping system. The system has become and utter shambles at every level.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 13 January 2015, 09:27:19 PM
End up paying for a taxi to get to work today. Then it took 90 minutes to get home for f*cks sake. Also paid for couple of shorter taxi journeys from Central Station to my office thanks to big delays last week.

Think the Metro has been on time/train not failed on only one occasion since last Monday. And don't get me started on the piece of sh*t station barriers and card swiping system. The system has become and utter shambles at every level.

Yeah the ticket fences are insane, at rush hour at hay market they close some of them.   :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jay Jay Sea on Friday 16 January 2015, 09:04:12 AM
More f***ing delays. Platforms are rammed. 25 min delays Shields to Coast. s****.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 16 January 2015, 09:08:12 AM
It was fine for me this morning, I boarded an empty train and breezed to work with no issue.  Apart from that nutter woman with her two kids who always barges through people to get a seat on the metro.  She needs to seriously calm it down like.  I mean seariously...I managed to block her earlier in the week and and stifle her approach to the seats.  Her manners are terrible, what example is she setting her kids, her kids will grow up with the wrong attitude towards life.  I just cant accept people being like this, its infuriates me to no end.  The metro was empty, seats for everyone, everybody wins. 

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 6 February 2015, 01:04:15 PM
Huge huge delays this morning.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Wednesday 11 February 2015, 10:09:41 AM
The train failure rate is getting so high now, think they may as well just abandon timetables.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 11 February 2015, 10:36:17 AM
The train failure rate is getting so high now, think they may as well just abandon timetables.

At 8:10 at Monkseaton we had a 1980s thing pick us up.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 11 February 2015, 10:38:14 AM
The Metro timetable is a myth anyway.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 11 February 2015, 10:38:33 AM
Huge huge delays this morning.

Heard that this caused chaos last Friday :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jay Jay Sea on Wednesday 11 February 2015, 11:26:17 AM
Is there a Nexus/Metro forum where folks can vent their spleen i.e. not directly set-up by Nexus who welcome feedback?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Wednesday 11 February 2015, 11:39:53 AM
It it just coincidence that the service had degraded massively since falling to foreign hands? Probably is, but the system as it is is utterly f*cked in respect of the medium to long term. The trains are way past their life expectancy and essentially on life support, and a replacement fleet would be incompatible with the network. Can see this service degradation going on for a good few years.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mattypnufc on Thursday 12 February 2015, 07:26:17 PM
On a course in town this week. Used it twice. f***ed it off. Horrible, stuffy, hot, sweaty late, full of ignorant c***s, an absolute arsehole of a service.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 23 February 2015, 05:03:56 PM
So I've got my new yearly Network One pass, which I was kind of hoping would be a smartcard, so I wouldn't have to take a grotty little paper ticket out of the wallet every time and feed it through the barrier.  Which of course means it becomes all dog-eared and faded. 

So I got my new one, not only is it still a paper ticket, but I tried it today and it didn't work on the barriers.  Inspector guy said those type don't work and I'm going to have to find a member of staff to show it through to be allowed through every time I travel to a station with barriers on!  Emailed Network Ticketing and it sounds like Network One and Nexus can't agree on who should pay for the smart cards, or whose fault it is they have to go back to passes that don't work on the barriers.

Quote
As the you are aware we have been encountering problems with the Annual Travel Tickets which have been issued, and should enable access to the Metro system including through the gates currently being installed at 13 of the 60 stations on the Metro system.  The Gating System is being installed by Nexus as part of its "Metro Reinvigoration" project and Nexus in turn set the specification for the new ticket stock so that it would be suitable for their new infrastructure.
 
The problems experienced have taken the form of  tickets fading and the magnetic stripe failing over time, which has necessitated replacing a large proportion of the Annual  tickets during the year, so inconveniencing the ticket holders. We have concluded that the damage is attributable to the gating system and thus far no evidence has been forthcoming to contradict this.
 
In the circumstances we believe the most practical option is to issue the old style tickets.

 

These tickets will not be capable of opening the gates on the occasions when they are in operation.  In these instances, the ticket can be used by showing it to the inspector at the gate line, who will open the gate for the ticket holder.  We are assured by Nexus that their personnel are always in attendance when the gates are in operation, which is logical as there are several other ticket types in general circulation that cannot activate the gates.

Network Ticketing Limited was to commence implementation of Smart Cards in Tyne and Wear in April 2015, but earlier this year Nexus (Metro) withdrew from participation in the proposed Scheme, and the Board of Directors are currently considering the next steps.
 
Please let me know if you need any further information.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Monday 23 February 2015, 07:15:08 PM
Why don't they just use the Oyster system?  It's already a proven, mature, operating system, just lift it wholesale and install it at the stations and on the buses.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 23 February 2015, 07:21:20 PM
Why don't they just use the Oyster system?  It's already a proven, mature, operating system, just lift it wholesale and install it at the stations and on the buses.

Different buses and systems in use, so it's all just about useless.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 23 February 2015, 07:22:21 PM
There were delays this morning as drivers couldn't use mirrors due to the low sun at Felling.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 23 February 2015, 07:23:06 PM
 :lol: Just got an image of a plethora of charvas stood at customer services, complaining they've no money on their card, shouting "eh man, what the f*** d'ya mean a forgot ta tap out?"

Also, a mate of mine who is a season ticket at the Stadium of Light said he was waiting for a Metro at Sunderland station on Saturday after their enthralling 0-0 game against WBA, when it just shot past without stopping. Apparently an apologetic message then came over the PA system saying "The driver may not have realised he had to stop."  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 23 February 2015, 07:24:39 PM
There were delays this morning as drivers couldn't use mirrors due to the low sun at Felling.  :lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Andymc1 on Monday 23 February 2015, 07:25:28 PM
There were delays this morning as drivers couldn't use mirrors due to the low sun at Felling.  :lol:

:lol: This happened to me last week. It happens every year at Felling metro as well. My mate told me that one day last week they had a ticket inspector standing on the platform giving the driver thumbs up when he could safely leave.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Monday 23 February 2015, 07:38:44 PM
There were delays this morning as drivers couldn't use mirrors due to the low sun at Felling.  :lol:

f***ing 2015 man :lol:  Tomorrows World was full of s*** :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 23 February 2015, 09:06:27 PM
I do love it when they decide to take the metro I'm on out of service on a whim, announce that there's another one "right behind us", then having to wait 25 f***ing minutes and being late for work.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 09:10:30 AM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=829555737137034&id=124685800957368

The comments :anguish:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 09:35:40 AM
Got a new Metro themed bar in the airport. Of all the things to show off about the North East.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 01:33:56 PM
Got a new Metro themed bar in the airport. Of all the things to show off about the North East.

:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 03:48:40 PM
Got a new Metro themed bar in the airport. Of all the things to show off about the North East.

"We regret to inform customers that all craft beers will be terminated at the end of the current barrels. However, a Fosters, Carling and Strongbow tinnies replacement service will be operating in the affected areas. Metro apologises"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheGuv on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 05:02:17 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ToonTastic on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 06:46:38 PM
A nice questionnaire to fill in https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Nexus2015
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 08:22:47 PM
Got a new Metro themed bar in the airport. Of all the things to show off about the North East.

:lol: Just looked it up.

Why's it called Bar 11?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: maybe_next_year on Tuesday 21 April 2015, 11:25:58 PM
Got a new Metro themed bar in the airport. Of all the things to show off about the North East.

:lol: Just looked it up.

Why's it called Bar 11?

How many mins late the average metro is?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Wednesday 22 April 2015, 01:00:52 AM
That's worthy of a :lol:. Very Reggie Perrin for those of a certain vintage. Leopard on the tracks, etc., every week.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 16 May 2015, 11:05:58 AM
Really enjoying the new time-travelling metros. You know, the ones that manage to suddenly go from being '21m' away to 'Due' in half a second. I especially enjoy the sprint up and down the stairs from the other platform every day, having already plumped to go the long way round because it'll save time on a 20-odd minute wait.

Waste of time having information boards and timetables, it's an absolute free for all when something might bother to turn up.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 16 May 2015, 01:58:48 PM
Really enjoying the new time-travelling metros. You know, the ones that manage to suddenly go from being '21m' away to 'Due' in half a second. I especially enjoy the sprint up and down the stairs from the other platform every day, having already plumped to go the long way round because it'll save time on a 20-odd minute wait.

Waste of time having information boards and timetables, it's an absolute free for all when something might bother to turn up.

:lol: That happened to me yesterday! 27m it said. I wandered out for a tab, lit up and started pondering whether a bus might be quicker, and the train rumbled in. You have about 10 seconds until the doors shut so I had to leg it, on pain of a £100 fine. I think they should give up on their fight against the truth. Was still 10 minutes late after shuddering to a stop between stations twice and the usual ticking over at South Gosforth while they find out if anybody can be arsed to drive the b****** next.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: fraz77 on Saturday 16 May 2015, 10:20:41 PM
Really enjoying the new time-travelling metros. You know, the ones that manage to suddenly go from being '21m' away to 'Due' in half a second. I especially enjoy the sprint up and down the stairs from the other platform every day, having already plumped to go the long way round because it'll save time on a 20-odd minute wait.

Waste of time having information boards and timetables, it's an absolute free for all when something might bother to turn up.

:lol: That happened to me yesterday! 27m it said. I wandered out for a tab, lit up and started pondering whether a bus might be quicker, and the train rumbled in. You have about 10 seconds until the doors shut so I had to leg it, on pain of a £100 fine. I think they should give up on their fight against the truth. Was still 10 minutes late after shuddering to a stop between stations twice and the usual ticking over at South Gosforth while they find out if anybody can be arsed to drive the b****** next.

They've been knackered for nearly a week now and have still yet to be fixed
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 17 May 2015, 11:06:40 PM
Magic Metro Minutes is what I call them.  Expect the unexpected.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 18 May 2015, 12:41:17 PM
Experienced the magic minutes this morning, 18 minutes for next train.  It came two minutes later, it was waiting further down the track.

They need to switch that IT system off and then on again.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 18 May 2015, 01:26:25 PM
Oh and there's that completely unannounced train to Pelaw that just suddenly pitches up every once in a while. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 18 May 2015, 01:44:08 PM
Oh and there's that completely unannounced train to Pelaw that just suddenly pitches up every once in a while. :lol:

I used to get the lesser spotted Regent Centre - Pelaw metro when I had too for work. Never any c*** on it / half the time not even advertised, halcyon days.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 18 May 2015, 02:29:41 PM
Oh and there's that completely unannounced train to Pelaw that just suddenly pitches up every once in a while. :lol:

Ghost train!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 20 May 2015, 05:08:41 PM
Oh and there's that completely unannounced train to Pelaw that just suddenly pitches up every once in a while. :lol:

I used to get the lesser spotted Regent Centre - Pelaw metro when I had too for work. Never any c*** on it / half the time not even advertised, halcyon days.

Love getting to Monument or Central early in the morning after I've worked all night long and the display looks something like this:

1 REGENT CENTRE - 2m

2 AIRPORT 6m

3 REGENT CENTRE 9m

4 THE COAST 28m

"You're having a f***ing laugh"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 20 May 2015, 05:49:22 PM
dat Regent Centre red.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 21 May 2015, 01:10:29 PM
Oh and there's that completely unannounced train to Pelaw that just suddenly pitches up every once in a while. :lol:

I used to get the lesser spotted Regent Centre - Pelaw metro when I had too for work. Never any c*** on it / half the time not even advertised, halcyon days.

Love getting to Monument or Central early in the morning after I've worked all night long and the display looks something like this:

1 REGENT CENTRE - 2m

2 AIRPORT 6m

3 REGENT CENTRE 9m

4 THE COAST 28m

"You're having a f***ing laugh"

They sometimes pull that gag at rush hour as well.  one train to the coast, the rest to airport or regent centre where only a few people get off.
The majority of people go the coast route. 

You always find students waiting for the coast train and find them getting off at West Jesmond  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 1 July 2015, 01:06:16 PM
Metro is free today, all the ticket machines are f***ed so they're letting people travel for nowt.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Wednesday 1 July 2015, 01:13:01 PM
b******s, renewed my bus ticket today.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 11 July 2015, 02:08:38 AM
Tyne and Wear Metro 'not good enough' and is fined £271,000 for delays
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/tyne-wear-metro-not-good-9633835
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 9 August 2015, 07:37:48 PM
I've noticed they've started patting themselves on the back with the noticeboards saying "Good service. Running to timetable." Yeah, well done doing the minimum.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Sunday 9 August 2015, 07:42:25 PM
The Metro timetable is an absolute f***ing myth.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 9 August 2015, 08:13:03 PM
Nah, it's on the wall there. Keeping to it is the myth. They allow themselves so many minutes either side and then if they don't it's not their fault.

I don't mind, it keeps life interesting. s*** happens. :)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 25 September 2015, 09:09:37 AM
Technical fault at felling today was sun being too low for the drivers to see. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Friday 25 September 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Technical fault at felling today was sun being too low for the drivers to see. :lol:

Hmmm....perhaps some sort of protective eye wear seems to be in order. There is no fee for this consultancy advice.

(http://images.esellerpro.com/2346/I/141/809/medscale4165_601_8G_55_master.jpg)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 25 September 2015, 01:00:42 PM
I do like using 'a metro minute' for a figure of time like, in the same way as you would 'a baker's dozen' or whatever.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Friday 25 September 2015, 01:19:17 PM
Technical fault at felling today was sun being too low for the drivers to see. :lol:

FFS man. I travelled to work wearing sunglasses and I was just a passenger on the bus. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Friday 25 September 2015, 01:19:46 PM
I do like using 'a metro minute' for a figure of time like, in the same way as you would 'a baker's dozen' or whatever.

Metro/treadmill/microwave minutes are all a whole separate time system IMO.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 19 November 2015, 06:33:44 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/tyne-wear-metro-catalogue-errors-10463568#ICID=FB-Chron-main
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 19 November 2015, 08:51:04 AM
St James' station out of action today due to emergency repairs or something.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bowie on Thursday 19 November 2015, 11:24:35 AM
Going to enjoy watching countless people sprinting for the metroid at Monument that sits there for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 19 November 2015, 11:27:50 AM
Monument will be heaving!!!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: KDT on Monday 7 December 2015, 03:52:10 PM
No trains running between Pelaw and South Hylton in both directions until further notice, tomorrow morning I need to get to St Peter's. There's a replacement bus service running, would I be better off getting that or just getting the bus to Sunderland from Haymarket?

I'm a metro novice when it's knackered.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 December 2015, 04:06:51 PM
No trains running between Pelaw and South Hylton in both directions until further notice, tomorrow morning I need to get to St Peter's. There's a replacement bus service running, would I be better off getting that or just getting the bus to Sunderland from Haymarket?

I'm a metro novice when it's knackered.

Get the 56 from market street goes right past st peters.  Would take around 65 mins from toon though.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Wullie on Monday 7 December 2015, 04:07:37 PM
You might be able to get the mainline train instead, St Peter's isn't too far to walk from the main station.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: KDT on Monday 7 December 2015, 04:15:42 PM
Is there a quicker bus from Haymarket to Sunderland? I don't mind a bit of a walk once in Sunderland.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Andymc1 on Monday 7 December 2015, 05:25:09 PM
Train from Central Station to Sunderland is your best option :thup:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 December 2015, 05:29:13 PM
Train from Central Station to Sunderland is your best option :thup:

It's only running every hour at the moment.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 December 2015, 06:46:55 PM
I wish NATO would bomb metro targets.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Monday 7 December 2015, 07:39:50 PM
Annual All Zone Metro pass is to be hiked by 11% next year, then possibly the same again for the next couple of years  :tard:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 December 2015, 07:53:22 PM
What ?!?!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 December 2015, 08:07:35 PM
Annual All Zone Metro pass is to be hiked by 11% next year, then possibly the same again for the next couple of years  :tard:

WTF.  Are any of the fares regulated at all?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Monday 7 December 2015, 08:10:50 PM
They want to set ticket prices using multipliers, with the annual all zones pass a 11x monthly all zones pass. The first increase is 11%, from £512 to £575. Target price seems to be around £820 within a few years. Massive price increases apparently on way if you need an all zones pass  :suicide:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 December 2015, 08:11:28 PM
Seen it in here:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/tyne-wear-metro-fare-prices-10507867

f***ing ridiculous.  Again commuters who use the system the most being penalized.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Monday 7 December 2015, 08:11:28 PM
Annual All Zone Metro pass is to be hiked by 11% next year, then possibly the same again for the next couple of years  :tard:

WTF.  Are any of the fares regulated at all?

They're reducing some of the cheaper tickets, and freezing the £12 pensioner unlimited passes etc
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Monday 7 December 2015, 10:23:03 PM
The metty is an absolute f***ing joke like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Tuesday 8 December 2015, 12:13:29 PM
The metty is an absolute f***ing joke like.

It'll get worse yet, their maintenance program is a joke.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 24 February 2016, 07:31:34 AM
It's a complete joke again, small delays almost every morning or evening commute.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 March 2016, 06:38:20 PM
3 trains have failed with me on them the last 6 days.  Joke.  Shambles.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 7 March 2016, 06:48:59 PM
It's OK the UK gov want to spend 56 billion on hs2,  this will make all our lives better.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 8 March 2016, 06:54:21 AM
That's only a fraction of what it'd cost to upgrade the metro though.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 8 March 2016, 11:29:57 AM
Paid over £1000 upfront for my annual NetworkOne pass the other week :anguish:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 8 March 2016, 02:35:19 PM
Renwal is due soon.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 8 March 2016, 07:55:29 PM
Renwal is due soon.
Metro?  It's been due for years.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 8 March 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Love it when they tweet to say the service is running normally, like some sort of boast because it happens so rarely :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 8 March 2016, 08:31:07 PM
Paid over £1000 upfront for my annual NetworkOne pass the other week :anguish:
Why, you get a ludicrous discount for paying upfront or something?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 8 March 2016, 10:11:02 PM
Renwal is due soon.
Metro?  It's been due for years.

My season ticket I meant.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 14 March 2016, 03:21:09 PM
Paid over £1000 upfront for my annual NetworkOne pass the other week :anguish:
Why, you get a ludicrous discount for paying upfront or something?

No, used to having an annual one cos used to get one through my lass's work friends and family scheme, buy can't any more. Doesn't seem to be a benefit of getting monthly ones and couldn't be arsed renewing each month.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 14 March 2016, 03:22:37 PM
In other news...

Tyne and Wear Metro system to be publicly-run as DB Regio contract set to be scrapped next year
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/tyne-wear-metro-system-publicly-11037005
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Monday 14 March 2016, 07:21:52 PM
In other news...

Tyne and Wear Metro system to be publicly-run as DB Regio contract set to be scrapped next year
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/tyne-wear-metro-system-publicly-11037005

"Nexus are working on a business case for a new train fleet to be introduced in the early 2020's"

At which point the existing fleet will be pulled by donkeys rather than powered by the OHL. 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 14 March 2016, 07:56:04 PM
2020s f*** sake
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: jotenko on Monday 14 March 2016, 10:22:20 PM
Lisbon's metro is great. At least that.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Tuesday 15 March 2016, 01:37:19 AM
:lol: You've calmed down. Enjoy your metro.
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Neil on Tuesday 15 March 2016, 01:42:21 AM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

Honestly man. Still tickling me. :lol:
Title: Re: "Years of disruption" for Metro.
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 15 March 2016, 09:37:22 PM
that expansion map is ridiculous, it’d cost hundreds of billions.

Honestly man. Still tickling me. :lol:

Probably my favourite forum memory  :lol:

Hope mucky came back as someone else. Can understand why he ditched the account though.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Tuesday 15 March 2016, 09:45:11 PM
An NO classic moment. To provide some context Crossrail is costing about £14bn.

Hundreds of billions. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 15 March 2016, 09:46:47 PM
 :lol:

Just re read it all, great stuff.  :lol:

Love it how so many times the thread gets bumped you just see people still laughing at hundreds of billions  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 17 March 2016, 03:02:20 PM
Metro line closure

http://www.nexus.org.uk/metro/updates?open=t_planned-works

Quote
19 March 2016 - 15 day Major Line Closure Tynemouth - Shiremoor
No trains will run between Tynemouth and Shiremoor in either direction from 19 March - 2 April to allow for a major programme of track replacement work.  During the closure a replacement bus service will be running in the affected area.   Emergency gas repair work will be taking place in North Tyneside during the line closure which may impact on our replacement bus service.  We'll do all we can to maintain a frequent service, your journey will take longer so please allow for extra travel time.  We're sorry for any inconvenience.  Metro services will resume on Sunday 3 April.

I know works need to be done but this will sting.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 17 March 2016, 03:08:31 PM
Metro line closure

http://www.nexus.org.uk/metro/updates?open=t_planned-works

Quote
19 March 2016 - 15 day Major Line Closure Tynemouth - Shiremoor
No trains will run between Tynemouth and Shiremoor in either direction from 19 March - 2 April to allow for a major programme of track replacement work.  During the closure a replacement bus service will be running in the affected area.   Emergency gas repair work will be taking place in North Tyneside during the line closure which may impact on our replacement bus service.  We'll do all we can to maintain a frequent service, your journey will take longer so please allow for extra travel time.  We're sorry for any inconvenience.  Metro services will resume on Sunday 3 April.

I know works need to be done but this will sting.

Yep, theres road works all over the coast area of north Tyneside at the moment. Beach road has works on it, works at Culler Coats, Metro lines off between Tynemouth and shiremoor, road works in Monkseaston, road works on Norham Road.  Absolute pain.


I used the bus service last weekend as they closed the lines between Tynemouth and Shiremoor for prep work I think.  The bus picked me up at Monkseaton, stopped at all the metro stops to North Shields...It took about 30 mins to get to North Shields in Saturday morning traffic, it will be horrific in rush hour traffic. The used a double deck bus, in Tynemouth it had to squeeze between all the parked cars near Tynemouth St.

North Tyneside will turn into absolute chaos next week.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Friday 29 April 2016, 09:58:19 PM
The Metro's been s*** all week and their constant excuse is that they don't have enough trains. What the thundering f*** is that? Surely that's the minimum requirement for running a train service. The board at Central when I got there to come home said 37 minutes. Thirtyfuckingseven! At rush hour. "Oh, it's just left South Shields." :rant:

How have they misplaced all these f*** off bright yellow metal boxes on wheels? Where was the last place they saw them? Are people stealing them? f***ing...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 29 April 2016, 10:02:41 PM
Not enough drivers.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Klaus on Friday 29 April 2016, 10:03:19 PM
After all the hundreds of billions spent on it!?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 29 April 2016, 10:06:39 PM
Yep, the hundreds of billions was spent customer service updates.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Friday 29 April 2016, 10:23:07 PM
Not enough drivers.

:lol: That was my suspicion but I wanted a rant.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 29 April 2016, 10:28:10 PM
Need robot drivers.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Troll on Friday 29 April 2016, 10:30:35 PM
:lol:

Just re read it all, great stuff.  :lol:

Love it how so many times the thread gets bumped you just see people still laughing at hundreds of billions  :lol:

:lol:  The way he started defending that figure when questioned and asking people for estimates.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 30 April 2016, 12:07:28 AM
Need robot drivers.
Got driverless trains down London already, on the DLR.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 30 April 2016, 12:15:19 AM
Need robot drivers.
Got driverless trains down London already, on the DLR.

I'd be sitting at the back tbh if that happened up here.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 30 April 2016, 01:14:38 AM
Need robot drivers.
Got driverless trains down London already, on the DLR.

I'd be sitting at the back tbh if that happened up here.
One of the suggestions for the new rolling stock is to buy the same rolling stock as the DLR so we can get them cheaper by making 1 big order for both systems. The problem the Metro have is that it's not cost effective to train vast amounts of people to drive the Metro's and to keep them on the payroll and when they have drivers they often club together in order to not work certain shifts in favour of more favourable ones or more perks, as a result a few times Metro services have had to be delayed or have services cancelled. Of course they have tried to get around it by having pre-determined rota's, but when people are on holiday or off sick others are often unwilling to pick up the extra shifts.

Also it's worth noting that the Glasgow subway has or is in the process of going driverless.
I'm not sure if driverless can happen on the Metro with the track being more 'open' to outside interference than the DLR or Galsgow subway, also part of the Metro runs on the national rail network and it's unlikely they would allow driverless trains on this section.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 30 April 2016, 01:16:19 AM
Not enough drivers.
Apparently this time it's not down to drivers. Apparently there has been a fault on the doors of the Metro and they are all being inspected for this fault, as a result they have that many that need fixing and are being inspected that they don't have enough to fulfill the timetable.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Open_C on Saturday 30 April 2016, 07:20:23 AM

Just re read it all, great stuff.
Love it how so many times the thread gets bumped you just see people still laughing at hundreds of billions
I use Hundreds Of Billions in conversation with strangers as a way of finding out if they're from herehasn't worked yet, but one day
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 30 April 2016, 09:44:13 AM
Not enough drivers.
Apparently this time it's not down to drivers. Apparently there has been a fault on the doors of the Metro and they are all being inspected for this fault, as a result they have that many that need fixing and are being inspected that they don't have enough to fulfill the timetable.
Desperate for new trains now.  Great start for the northern power house, they can't even supply a city with axrekiable rail system.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Saturday 30 April 2016, 12:17:40 PM
The Metro rarely runs a full timetabled service now, from memory they have 70 metro cars and need something like 64 to run the full service. 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 19 May 2016, 01:18:12 PM
Got nearly all the way to work, then stopped for ages at Ilford Road. Told the doors had developed a fault and we all had to leave the train. Then told we were stuck on the train because the doors wouldn't open. Had to climb out one by one through the driver's cab :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 19 May 2016, 01:44:14 PM
Got nearly all the way to work, then stopped for ages at Ilford Road. Told the doors had developed a fault and we all had to leave the train. Then told we were stuck on the train because the doors wouldn't open. Had to climb out one by one through the driver's cab :lol:

 :lol: :lol:

We got on a metro after work the other day from Monument, the first coast train was full so waited 2 minutes for the next one.  It comes along and its one of the original 1980s clangers that's still in service.  I said to the lass I was with "i bet you this doesn't get past Benton".

Got to Jesmond "sorry this train will be taken out of service, due to a breaks issue"   :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 19 May 2016, 01:47:37 PM
Wasn't too difficult for me, the lass with the buggy struggled mind,  Eventually the driver just pulled the lever and forced one of the doors for her, dunno why that wasn't the first option.  At least I got to see the inside of a Metro driver's cab.  It's like a really s*** version of being invited to the cockpit.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 19 May 2016, 03:12:38 PM
The Metro rarely runs a full timetabled service now, from memory they have 70 metro cars and need something like 64 to run the full service. 

Aye, we keep getting shortage of trains issue at peak times now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 19 May 2016, 03:39:30 PM
Quite enjoying how they love to boast "we are running a good service with no disruptions to timetable" on the odd afternoon they manage not to f*** up the entire north east's day by cancelling trains on a whim.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Spider Jerusalem on Saturday 21 May 2016, 12:19:19 PM
Metro just went out of service because of.... a broken seat 😵
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 21 May 2016, 12:21:05 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Si on Saturday 21 May 2016, 05:21:07 PM
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 21 May 2016, 11:58:19 PM
Can't stop laughing at that, did it actually happen?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 21 May 2016, 11:58:20 PM
Can't stop laughing at that, did it actually happen?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 21 May 2016, 11:58:35 PM
Oh honestly
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Sunday 22 May 2016, 12:05:02 AM
:lol: Can't stop laughing at that, did it actually happen?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 22 May 2016, 02:43:22 AM
Can double posts result in a ban it's annoying as f***
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 22 May 2016, 02:43:33 AM
Can double posts result in a ban it's annoying as f***
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Spider Jerusalem on Sunday 22 May 2016, 10:24:23 AM
It did definitely happen, sitting at Jarrow (where they regularly take trains off and send them back into town).  Worst excuse they've ever come up with.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 22 May 2016, 01:58:27 PM
It did definitely happen, sitting at Jarrow (where they regularly take trains off and send them back into town).  Worst excuse they've ever come up with.

Nah, when you're sitting on a train and they tell you that you have to get off because they haven't got enough trains is the pinnacle. There is one literally here, look, it's right f***ing here. I'm sitting inside it, look! f***ing. You couldn't be more wrong, this is enough train. Aaaargh.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: madras on Sunday 22 May 2016, 11:04:37 PM
Metro just went out of service because of.... a broken seat 😵
Hang on, if it was the drivers seat ?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Spider Jerusalem on Monday 23 May 2016, 07:07:48 AM
Metro just went out of service because of.... a broken seat 😵
Hang on, if it was the drivers seat ?
If only...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 23 May 2016, 09:10:13 AM
Lack of trains again this morning.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 23 May 2016, 09:14:47 AM
One of the seats is a magic seat and has all the doings for making the doors work in it, so that might be a valid reason.  However I imagine it's more likely to be that a seat was broken and they're just worried about someone trying to sit on it, injuring themselves and suing them.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 23 May 2016, 09:34:28 AM
Lack of trains again this morning.

Seen that.  Bloody farcical.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: tgarve on Monday 23 May 2016, 04:32:33 PM
One of the seats is a magic seat and has all the doings for making the doors work in it, so that might be a valid reason.  However I imagine it's more likely to be that a seat was broken and they're just worried about someone trying to sit on it, injuring themselves and suing them.

A magic seat??
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 23 May 2016, 04:36:54 PM
No literally  :laugh2:  But it has a lock on it and when you undo that, it swings outwards to allow maintenance of the door gears below.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 3 June 2016, 01:14:27 PM
Balaclava man with life-size Queen cut-out causes delays on Metro

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/transport/balaclava-man-with-life-size-queen-cut-out-causes-delays-on-metro-1-7945490#ixzz4AWAivLlf
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 3 June 2016, 01:59:31 PM
So that's why I was stuck just before south Gossy this morning!
Fair play to the guy.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Friday 3 June 2016, 02:18:20 PM
Balaclava man with life-size Queen cut-out causes delays on Metro

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/transport/balaclava-man-with-life-size-queen-cut-out-causes-delays-on-metro-1-7945490#ixzz4AWAivLlf
That story.  :ben:
The third comment from bigtwister.  :serious:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Friday 3 June 2016, 10:39:03 PM
So that f***ing arsehole made me late for work? I got the usual "get up an hour earlier like I do" s*** from the millionaire bosses who swan off to "network" with their mates at midday every Friday. f***ing f*** that f***er. Throw away the key. :rant:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Slim on Friday 3 June 2016, 11:45:58 PM
So why was he arrested?

"“A male passenger was being disorderly on board the train"

So most people on the metro
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 4 June 2016, 01:14:55 AM
Just accept you were in the wrong and take it on the chin mate.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Spider Jerusalem on Saturday 4 June 2016, 10:52:48 AM
Balaclava man with life-size Queen cut-out causes delays on Metro

OK, now THAT'S the best reason I've heard for Metro being late.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jay Jay Sea on Saturday 4 June 2016, 04:20:24 PM
How the f*** does a down power line at Percy Main hours ago result in a packed train being terminated at South Gosforth? These c***s are taking the p*ss. It's every day. Eating into serious drinking time. But it'll be a different story when I head back on the metro later when I cause mayhem by f***ing pissing myself, getting my fat cock out, assaulting the inspectors and basically shitting my self by way of protest. I'll probably have a w*** as well, cum all over the checkies as they're laid out after concurrent round-houses and strong s*** stench. c***s
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Toondave on Saturday 4 June 2016, 05:08:15 PM
Just accept you were in the wrong and take it on the chin mate.

underrated post
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sima on Saturday 4 June 2016, 05:25:07 PM
How the f*** does a down power line at Percy Main hours ago result in a packed train being terminated at South Gosforth? These c***s are taking the p*ss. It's every day. Eating into serious drinking time. But it'll be a different story when I head back on the metro later when I cause mayhem by f***ing pissing myself, getting my fat cock out, assaulting the inspectors and basically shitting my self by way of protest. I'll probably have a w*** as well, cum all over the checkies as they're laid out after concurrent round-houses and strong s*** stench. c***s

Would watch, but only with a splash visor.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: M4 on Sunday 19 June 2016, 06:34:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ROPm5ARl.jpg)

:lol: what?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 19 June 2016, 07:11:54 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Adam^ on Sunday 19 June 2016, 07:41:44 PM
Imagine getting a Daysaver for your birthday!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 19 June 2016, 07:44:47 PM
Aww, breaks my heart for some reason that
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: cp40 on Sunday 19 June 2016, 07:45:55 PM
missed a trick for gimps 40th.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: M4 on Sunday 19 June 2016, 07:48:48 PM
Aww, breaks my heart for some reason that

Cake does look nice, I have to say!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Decky on Monday 20 June 2016, 09:35:00 AM
Doesn't seem too weird, probably just a kid who loves trains.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Monday 20 June 2016, 10:05:37 AM
:lol: I was desperate to go on the Shields Ferry before I turned 30 because I'd never been on it before.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Monday 20 June 2016, 10:18:45 AM
Just like the metro, the sperm that should've won, never turned up.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stal on Monday 20 June 2016, 01:25:17 PM
:lol: I was desperate to go on the Shields Ferry before I turned 30 because I'd never been on it before.

Something I've never done and really feel like I should do too.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 20 June 2016, 03:51:39 PM
:lol: I was desperate to go on the Shields Ferry before I turned 30 because I'd never been on it before.

Something I've never done and really feel like I should do too.
Go on the outside bit and if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction you get a breath full of diesel fumes.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Klaus on Monday 20 June 2016, 03:54:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ROPm5ARl.jpg)

:lol: what?

Imagine requesting that cake in the shop man  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Monday 20 June 2016, 05:20:47 PM
I was desperate to go on the Shields Ferry before I turned 30 because I'd never been on it before.

Something I've never done and really feel like I should do too.
Go on the outside bit and if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction you get a breath full of diesel fumes.
It's all starting to make sense now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 20 June 2016, 07:02:36 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: JB on Monday 20 June 2016, 10:55:15 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 14 July 2016, 05:34:23 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/plans-major-metro-upgrade-revealed-11613893

HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheGuv on Thursday 14 July 2016, 05:49:40 PM
Just saw this on FB. Knew it would end up in here with that very quote :lol: :lol:

I hate that I use it in everyday life. Just one of my many N-Oisms :rant:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mattypnufc on Thursday 14 July 2016, 05:54:47 PM
I may have commented on Neesy's FB the other day using the very same quote.

Couldn't resist.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Thursday 14 July 2016, 09:43:51 PM
They could get the current service working properly first. I shall refrain from swearing. f*** knows why. Ah, s***. Did a swear.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 14 July 2016, 09:50:59 PM
They should invest in a monorail, linking up Ogdenville and North Haverbrook.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 14 July 2016, 09:56:05 PM
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 14 July 2016, 09:57:14 PM
That'll really put them on the map.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 14 July 2016, 09:58:40 PM
Mono...rail
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Thursday 14 July 2016, 10:01:08 PM
Do they just rehash the same bullshit story every couple of years? The delays if your train had to come down from the Costa del Smack...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 14 July 2016, 10:18:28 PM
Just pushing a positive news story. They need to focus on the basics for me.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Foluwashola on Thursday 14 July 2016, 10:21:46 PM
Do they just rehash the same bullshit story every couple of years? The delays if your train had to come down from the Costa del Smack...

 :lol: Confident it's been on the horizon for the last twenty years. Will be a significant increase in radgies nutting metro windows if it eventually goes ahead.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Slim on Thursday 14 July 2016, 11:49:14 PM
Just like to add I have never had a delayed metro.  Please people just get a car
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 15 July 2016, 09:25:36 AM
Do they just rehash the same bullshit story every couple of years? The delays if your train had to come down from the Costa del Smack...
More to it than that. They are putting together a funding package proposal for new trains which is desperately needed as the old ones are the cause behind 99% of the delays. All of this is information as to what specification the trains will require, and it's clear they are being bought for an expansion of the system as they are not after like for like replacements.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 01:09:14 PM
Trapped on a metro at the moment with no power. Been here for nearly 20 minutes. Driver says he can't give us any information as to when we will get moving. Metro twitter says Monument station has been evacuated due to smoke.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Monday 15 August 2016, 01:34:37 PM
Aye there's a canny few fire engines there
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 01:39:28 PM
Still stuck, been here about an hour now. Driver still has less info than I do, he mustn't have twitter.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 15 August 2016, 02:04:28 PM
All the shops have closed in Monument Mall too.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 02:19:53 PM
Someone has called and absolutely kicked off about her kids being stuck so they're finally sending someone to evacuate the train. Been 90 minutes since we ground to a halt.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 15 August 2016, 02:22:52 PM
Someone has called and absolutely kicked off about her kids being stuck so they're finally sending someone to evacuate the train. Been 90 minutes since we ground to a halt.

and they just left people on the metro ??? Good to know the Metro has contingency plans in place for such an event.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 02:28:08 PM
Yeah, been here for nearly two hours now. People are starting to just pull the levers to jump onto the tracks now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 02:40:14 PM
Being escorted along the tracks now, walking on the sleepers.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 02:41:04 PM
Honestly think if that lass hadn't kicked off they would have left us there.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 15 August 2016, 02:46:57 PM
compo!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:10:29 PM
Where were you stranded?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:24:47 PM
The metro has imploded -

No trains Airport-Brockley Whins and South Shields-Monkseaton in either direction, due to a problem with the power supply.
 Go North East, Arriva & Stagecoach are accepting Metro tickets on all bus services.
 We're sorry for any inconvenience.

Updated at 14:40, Monday, 15 August 2016
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:25:51 PM
This has a Made in Tyne and Wear docudrama written all over it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:26:25 PM
To be fair to the Metro it is sunny today. We all know we can only be guaranteed good service when it's cloudy and between 10-15 degrees outside of autumn.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:27:25 PM
OH gawd, im going to have to bus it with the bus mongers  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:30:06 PM
Absolutely insane how dependent upon the weather it is, in North East England . If it's too hot, or too cold, or too wet or too autumnal, you're getting the bus. It's a regional embarrassment.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:35:37 PM
My train was at Monument when it all went tits up, so got evacuated and had to bus it. As the driver said, lucky we were at a station when the power died. Still s***, but less than you guys on the tracks.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 15 August 2016, 03:37:58 PM
f*** sake.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 15 August 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Absolutely insane how dependent upon the weather it is, in North East England . If it's too hot, or too cold, or too wet or too autumnal, you're getting the bus. It's a regional embarrassment.


Low traction adhesion...

"Sticky leaves on the track marra, ya best off getting the bus"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Foluwashola on Monday 15 August 2016, 06:36:23 PM
https://youtu.be/V80Isj9JK1s

Latest images of Bluestar's metro this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Monday 15 August 2016, 06:59:38 PM
M-m-m-m-m metro
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Twinport53 on Monday 15 August 2016, 08:07:27 PM
My mates were at the Jesmond station around 12 midday when apparently there was a power surge on the over head cables. Reckons the noise was unbelievably deafening and was told just after that it was the reason for the outage.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 10:57:42 PM
Still f***ed tomorrow.





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:pilko:

To be fair, the poor f***er running their twitter probably has PTSD after today.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 15 August 2016, 10:58:54 PM
Where were you stranded?

Just before S Gosforth.  It stopped in the place it often stops, but then became eerily silent because there was no power.  Went through one and a half full phone batteries while I was there.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 01:59:35 AM
Well, f*** that s***. Not going into work then.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 07:55:23 AM
Metro down between Shiremoor and S. Gosforth, both directions. Ive jumped on at Monkseaton as usual but ive gone the coast route to get to Newcaatle. Delays to the service.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 12:25:12 PM
Perfect area for it to be down too since there are 2 lots of work on at South Gosforth roundabout meaning the traffic there is already horrendous on a morning anyway. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 01:31:46 PM
Has anyone experienced a worse subway/light rail system than the tyne and c***ing wear metro. Its an absolute scandal.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 01:37:19 PM
It definitely sounds like it's got worse like.  When I moved down to London 8 years ago it was simply a bit of a s*** service on which you were likely to get abused by radgies for having long hair, but at least most of the trains ran and you could sort of rely on getting somewhere.  Sounds like they've just given up recently.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 01:38:46 PM
Has anyone experienced a worse subway/light rail system than the tyne and c***ing wear metro. Its an absolute scandal.

THis is what happens when you privatise rail systems, it has no competition to drive improvemwnt and the margins for profit are so small the company who has the franchise has to squeeze everything the can to make that profit. 

I know the metro is being taken back into public hands which is a good thing, it just needs to turn over a profit, give staff a decent wage and invest profits back into the system.

Edit

The gov should be showering the metro with billions of pounds.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 01:44:45 PM
It definitely sounds like it's got worse like.  When I moved down to London 8 years ago it was simply a bit of a s*** service on which you were likely to get abused by radgies for having long hair, but at least most of the trains ran and you could sort of rely on getting somewhere.  Sounds like they've just given up recently.

They used to just be late all the time. I went back to using them about a year ago and couldn't believe how bad it had got. Hasn't the company running the Metro had the contract taken off them for being so s***?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Joe Cool on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 01:55:09 PM
I heard that the contract wasn't being renewed. Next year it runs out I think.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 02:02:25 PM
I heard that the contract wasn't being renewed. Next year it runs out I think.

Back in public hands apparently, people from our work are dealing with it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 02:20:31 PM
My train been cancelled at jesmond due to smell of smoke on the train.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 02:24:02 PM
At least they're consistent
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 16 August 2016, 02:27:56 PM
awesome stuff
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Wednesday 17 August 2016, 12:07:08 AM
http://www.nexus.org.uk/metro/updates?open=t_disruptions

f*** that s***. Incompetent c***s. On the other hand, another day off. Pay me enough instead, f***ers. You want s*** done? Work it out.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 17 August 2016, 12:09:41 AM
As s*** as it is, in most cities this size your only option would be the bus. We're lucky to have the Metro but it needs sorting out, total joke at the moment.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: madras on Wednesday 17 August 2016, 12:14:51 AM
As s*** as it is, in most cities this size your only option would be the bus. We're lucky to have the Metro but it needs sorting out, total joke at the moment.
It would be a bus that runs through the night aswell. Newcastle 24hr party city with next to no public transport after 2330.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 17 August 2016, 08:23:27 AM
Tarmac all routes and stick buses down them. Sorted.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 24 September 2016, 05:42:28 PM
Not a metro rant, but roadworks.

It took me an hour yesterday to go from Leam Lane to get to the Tyne Tunnel via Lindisfarne Roundabout. They'd reduced it to one lane and there wasn't any workers in sight.

w*****s.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 24 September 2016, 05:53:30 PM
Not a metro rant, but roadworks.

It took me an hour yesterday to go from Leam Lane to get to the Tyne Tunnel via Lindisfarne Roundabout. They'd reduced it to one lane and there wasn't any workers in sight.

w*****s.

It's a are living in Whitley bay trying to get to Sunderland every day and back. Only thing worse would be trying to go the other way. Every morning tailback to testos to the tunnel and I'm in well before rush hour.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 24 September 2016, 05:56:06 PM
Aye that always looks ridiculous every day.

I live in Whitley and some days have to go to an office in Darlington so know what you mean.

A truck broke down in the tunnel going southbound the other day and it took me 45 minutes to get through, utter carnage.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 24 September 2016, 05:59:30 PM
Aye that always looks ridiculous every day.

I live in Whitley and some days have to go to an office in Darlington so know what you mean.

A truck broke down in the tunnel going southbound the other day and it took me 45 minutes to get through, utter carnage.

Ramage haulage at the top of the tunnel? Aye caused chaos. I left home (around rake lane) at 7:10 that day and arrived at 8:30. Usually takes me 20mins.

Didn't know you live in Whitley, thought you were South Shields or something.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 24 September 2016, 06:04:26 PM
Aye that was the one. I was there at about quarter to 7 when it's normally dead and it was ridiculous.

I used to but lived in Whitley for a couple of years now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 24 September 2016, 06:10:43 PM
Aye that was the one. I was there at about quarter to 7 when it's normally dead and it was ridiculous.

I used to but lived in Whitley for a couple of years now.

Happened about 6:20 from what I heard. I finally go through the tunnel around 8:15, no chance they were going to clear it before the end of rush hour.

How you finding it over here? :)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 26 September 2016, 10:28:49 PM
I swear every f***ing day they're digging half the track up and putting on f***ing busses halfway round the system.

Absolute w*****s. Sick of being late for work due to metros being cancelled for bullshit reasons. "Lack of drivers" last week ffs :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Monday 26 September 2016, 11:56:43 PM
10m late for work today. 2 broken trains in front allegedly. :lol: Still better than the buses. I got that first day I moved here. :snod:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:42:16 PM
This posted up today:

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p240x240/14650229_1297694246916477_4567223322116559641_n.jpg?oh=01a3eca47dfddec1674225d4426b4c28&oe=5867D06D)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Toondave on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:48:17 PM
Theyre not bsing.  Leaves on track is like black ice for trains.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:51:43 PM
:lol: They should just pack the whole thing in then, they're going to get leaves on the track regularly.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Toondave on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:53:38 PM
 :lol: crushed leaves then. Leaf paste

Had an exam on railway mechanics and the first question was literally "is "leaves on track" a lazy excuse used by rail companies? Explain"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:55:06 PM
I don't remember this happening when I was a kid or the Victorians complaining about Low Rail Adhesion in history books. 
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:55:36 PM
Has someone not developed something to get the mush off then?  It's 2016 ffs.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:56:39 PM
Victorians trains weren't made of cardboard tho.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:57:46 PM
"I FOUGHT THE LEAVES AND THE LEAVES WON:
NEXUS CALL IT A DAY AS LEAVES CONTINUE TO EXIST"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 04:57:46 PM
Has someone not developed something to get the mush off then?  It's 2016 ffs.

Seems like a gap in the market to me. NeesysLeafscrapomobile.com coming soon.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: cp40 on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 05:07:38 PM
Has someone not developed something to get the mush off then?  It's 2016 ffs.


yep a brush, its been around for 1000+ years.

nexus havent figured out putting one in front of the wheels tho.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 05:10:15 PM
And this news comes only a few days after press reports of a man who lives along the Metro lines has asked Nexus to cut back a tree and they refused.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: cp40 on Tuesday 11 October 2016, 05:11:34 PM
any excuse to post this again.


(http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/stuff/photos/misc/clag-gone.png)


looks nexus, carbon fibre bristles give 1000s of hours of clag removal.

Do it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Thursday 3 November 2016, 10:51:21 AM
Annual All Zone Metro pass is to be hiked by 11% next year, then possibly the same again for the next couple of years  :tard:

Only a 9% hike in Annual All Zone prices this time around...

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-day-tickets-annual-passes-12116458

Tw*ts
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 3 November 2016, 11:07:12 AM
9%!  :lol:

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 3 November 2016, 12:51:58 PM
Apparently they want to freeze prices for daytickets as the people who use the metro for leisure have went down, so they want to entice them back.  Clowns.

Just rise prices across the board, don't use the people who absolutely need the metro for work as a cash cow otherwise they'll f*** off as well.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 3 November 2016, 09:29:04 PM
They've finally started to put timetable displays in the concourse (at Central for now), so you can decide whether to run down for a train or not.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 4 November 2016, 02:31:46 PM
Ive heard they are getting wedge for new rolling stock and more money for expansion.  The maintenance is now being taken back in house by Nexus and they are also going to improve the information boards at each station.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 10 November 2016, 09:37:31 PM
Nexus are having surveys about the layout requirements for new trains. The majority of the surveys are being held when people are likely at work, university, school etc. Fortunately though they have an online survey. I recommend people responding to it otherwise they will give us the s*** options.

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/Metrocars
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 10 November 2016, 09:47:04 PM
Ive heard they are getting wedge for new rolling stock and more money for expansion.  The maintenance is now being taken back in house by Nexus and they are also going to improve the information boards at each station.
The money for new rolling stock and expansion has not been granted yet, they are in the process of applying for it and trains compatible with expansion are going to asked for. Everything else has been taking back in house to Nexus, however it is said the problems DB had when running the Metro was not down to them and down to the deterioration of infrastructure.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Thursday 24 November 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Sounds fun this morning
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 24 November 2016, 10:10:38 AM
absolute pain in the arse
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 24 November 2016, 10:29:40 AM
Feel sorry for their twitter guy, seems like an actual human being and logging on to their twitter feed must be like a Nam flashback.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 24 November 2016, 10:37:35 AM
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 17 January 2017, 07:20:49 PM
Is it too late to abort this little charmer?

https://www.facebook.com/100010426692778/videos/vb.100010426692778/363959070628313/?type=2&theater
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 17 January 2017, 07:26:16 PM
Apparently they're changing the timetables soon to actually have less Airport trains and more ones that go to the coast during rush hour.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Foluwashola on Tuesday 17 January 2017, 07:27:57 PM
Apparently they're changing the timetables soon to actually have less Airport trains and more ones that go to the coast on a rush hour.

It's a f***ing joke getting there and seeing 3 Regent Centre trains in a row like :anguish:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 17 January 2017, 07:33:47 PM
Is it too late to abort this little charmer?

https://www.facebook.com/100010426692778/videos/vb.100010426692778/363959070628313/?type=2&theater

 :lol: that the same little scrot who was filmed punching through the window a while ago? Has the same screech.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 17 January 2017, 07:35:07 PM
Apparently they're changing the timetables soon to actually have less Airport trains and more ones that go to the coast on a rush hour.

It's a f***ing joke getting there and seeing 3 Regent Centre trains in a row like :anguish:

Doesn't affect me since I'm on the busiest part of the line. :smugdog:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Foluwashola on Tuesday 17 January 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Apparently they're changing the timetables soon to actually have less Airport trains and more ones that go to the coast on a rush hour.

It's a f***ing joke getting there and seeing 3 Regent Centre trains in a row like :anguish:

Doesn't affect me since I'm on the busiest part of the line. :smugdog:

Anyone getting off South Gossy or earlier should be walking. Lazy b******s taking up vital space.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 17 January 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Used to hate having to get on the peasant line when I lived in Gossy mind. Horrible stuff for the fine residents of NE2/3
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 18 January 2017, 08:59:32 AM
Apparently they're changing the timetables soon to actually have less Airport trains and more ones that go to the coast during rush hour.


Ahh, that's about time, the platform is usually full of people heading to the coast and 3 trains head to regent centre or the airport in a row.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 27 January 2017, 01:36:13 PM
Metro chiefs unveil £350m facelift including new trains with Wi-Fi to get system back on track
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-chiefs-unveil-350-facelift-12515741#ICID=FB-Chron-main
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 27 January 2017, 01:44:46 PM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 27 January 2017, 01:46:36 PM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Wouldn't be a bad thing if it happened on the North Shields to Byker end of the line.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 27 January 2017, 01:49:33 PM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Wouldn't be a bad thing if it happened on the North Shields to Byker end of the line.

Its not a bad line during rush hour, all the normal folk use it.  Its in between the rush times when all the radgies come out to play.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 27 January 2017, 01:51:25 PM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Wouldn't be a bad thing if it happened on the North Shields to Byker end of the line.

Its not a bad line during rush hour, all the normal folk use it.  Its in between the rush times when all the radgies come out to play.
I'd love to see how much that line would change if barriers were in place with Metro workers based at stations.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 27 January 2017, 01:55:50 PM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Wouldn't be a bad thing if it happened on the North Shields to Byker end of the line.

Its not a bad line during rush hour, all the normal folk use it.  Its in between the rush times when all the radgies come out to play.
I'd love to see how much that line would change if barriers were in place with Metro workers based at stations.

You are turning into Trump, Trumpler Metro warrior.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Friday 27 January 2017, 02:16:55 PM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Wouldn't be a bad thing if it happened on the North Shields to Byker end of the line.

I'll fight you at Chilly Road Metro at dusk. Be wary.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 28 January 2017, 12:56:17 AM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Wouldn't be a bad thing if it happened on the North Shields to Byker end of the line.

Its not a bad line during rush hour, all the normal folk use it.  Its in between the rush times when all the radgies come out to play.

:lol: Not always. Got on at Central tonight and some scruff was necking brandy, nobody would sit near him, they'd rather stand. I just thought "ah, he's causing nee bother, just needs a drink" and plonked meself down. He was fine. Bigly fine when he'd finished tbh.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 28 January 2017, 06:18:20 AM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Sure you weren't just reading the Dark Tower series?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 28 January 2017, 09:38:03 AM
Hopefully this is the turning point.

I did have a strange dream last night where I was on the metro and the train I was on, was just ploughing through stations and running people over on the tracks.  Very odd.
Sure you weren't just reading the Dark Tower series?

Ive never read it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 12:51:10 PM
Absolute chaos this morning
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 12:57:21 PM
Best comment I saw this morning was why didn't the Metro have replacement boat services. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 01:07:34 PM
Aye a massive pain in the arse today.

Wor lass was waiting for one at Jesmond on Sunday and as it pulled into the station some little c*** kicked the glass window through and it got withdrawn from service there and then.

Some woman got up in his face as they carted him off and just screamed "WHY?" at him :lol: I'd have gone for a headbutt meself.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 01:08:49 PM
Hope they're going to have it sorted by 5 tonight but not hopeful at all
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 01:09:37 PM
Aye a massive pain in the arse today.

Wor lass was waiting for one at Jesmond on Sunday and as it pulled into the station some little c*** kicked the glass window through and it got withdrawn from service there and then.

Some woman got up in his face as they carted him off and just screamed "WHY?" at him :lol: I'd have gone for a headbutt meself.
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 01:18:13 PM
Eh, is it still off? Got to the Haymarket this morning and it was a lot busier than usual, the 309 looked like it hadn't turned up at all so they stuck an additional X39 on at like 9.30, the legends.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 01:21:41 PM
Eh, is it still off? Got to the Haymarket this morning and it was a lot busier than usual, the 309 looked like it hadn't turned up at all so they stuck an additional X39 on at like 9.30, the legends.

Likely to be off all day.  Whole section of track was completely flooded.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18557432_1530087037010529_8338774649657263254_n.jpg?oh=e7303b3e019ea860bbe7818f7572c48b&oe=59BF29DD)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 01:27:09 PM
Could easily get through that in 1st gear
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 01:40:41 PM
Eh, is it still off? Got to the Haymarket this morning and it was a lot busier than usual, the 309 looked like it hadn't turned up at all so they stuck an additional X39 on at like 9.30, the legends.

Likely to be off all day.  Whole section of track was completely flooded.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18557432_1530087037010529_8338774649657263254_n.jpg?oh=e7303b3e019ea860bbe7818f7572c48b&oe=59BF29DD)

Arrggh man ! Stood all the way from Monkseaton to town this morning, m y back is killing me.

 
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 05:42:10 PM
Eh, is it still off? Got to the Haymarket this morning and it was a lot busier than usual, the 309 looked like it hadn't turned up at all so they stuck an additional X39 on at like 9.30, the legends.

Likely to be off all day.  Whole section of track was completely flooded.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18557432_1530087037010529_8338774649657263254_n.jpg?oh=e7303b3e019ea860bbe7818f7572c48b&oe=59BF29DD)

At least a couple of billion to sort that.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 06:34:02 PM
That's quite a range.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: louistoon on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 08:16:55 PM
That's quite a range.

Wasn't that like a forum catch phrase thingy about 15 years ago?  :lol:

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 08:45:10 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 08:45:56 PM
So, if you registered on Monday 30 March 2015, who are you?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 11:50:35 PM
Argh. Was an hour late for work today. Went the long way round, couldn't be f***ed with buses and rush hour traffic. Some owld wife said it's fixed now. Any truth in that, or is she as mad as she seemed?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 18 May 2017, 08:34:21 AM
Glided into Newcastle like an elegant eagle coming into land on a mountain.  No bother this morning
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Thursday 18 May 2017, 08:36:45 AM
Pleased the metro is alright cos the roads are a f***ing nightmare. :lol: Bloody diversions.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 18 May 2017, 12:32:11 PM
Pleased the metro is alright cos the roads are a f***ing nightmare. :lol: Bloody diversions.
Aye, North Tyneside is a f***ing mess at the minute.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 18 May 2017, 12:42:41 PM
Silverlink, Billy mill round about, Jesmond flood- mare!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 18 May 2017, 12:50:57 PM
For a country famed for rain...we don't half get bum-f***ed when we have a decent shower :lol:

 :lol:  yep.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Thursday 18 May 2017, 12:51:14 PM
For a country famed for rain...we don't half get bum-f***ed when we have a decent shower :lol:

Can't really blame two burst water mains on a shower.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 18 May 2017, 12:54:44 PM
Silverlink, Billy mill round about, Jesmond flood- mare!
West Allotment/Holystone roundabout, resurfacing in Preston village, Haddricks Mill, Sandy Lane.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 18 May 2017, 12:56:06 PM
Silverlink, Billy mill round about, Jesmond flood- mare!
West Allotment/Holystone roundabout, resurfacing in Preston village, Haddricks Mill, Sandy Lane.

Forgot about that.

Actually, getting out of whitley bay via car is a nightmare now, traffic backs up evervwhere trying to get out pas foxhunters round about.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 18 May 2017, 12:58:40 PM
Silverlink, Billy mill round about, Jesmond flood- mare!
West Allotment/Holystone roundabout, resurfacing in Preston village, Haddricks Mill, Sandy Lane.

where the f*** d'yi think am goin, am goin on thi train.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 18 May 2017, 01:08:41 PM
Nee one gets it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 18 May 2017, 03:16:00 PM
:lol: Was thinking the same before I saw your post
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 18 May 2017, 03:16:57 PM
Were the burst water mains both in Jesmond? Still water coming up through a crack in the road in Heaton.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Thursday 18 May 2017, 03:19:11 PM
Silverlink, Billy mill round about, Jesmond flood- mare!
West Allotment/Holystone roundabout, resurfacing in Preston village, Haddricks Mill, Sandy Lane.

where the f*** d'yi think am goin, am goin on thi train.

f*** OFF
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 18 May 2017, 03:24:20 PM
Were the burst water mains both in Jesmond? Still water coming up through a crack in the road in Heaton.

Blame BP.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 18 May 2017, 03:28:45 PM
Silverlink, Billy mill round about, Jesmond flood- mare!
West Allotment/Holystone roundabout, resurfacing in Preston village, Haddricks Mill, Sandy Lane.

where the f*** d'yi think am goin, am goin on thi train.

f*** OFF

Keep it tight Discoooh
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:09:23 PM
The current state of the Metro in a nutshell.

Beautiful weather
 Metro delayed by 10 minutes
Metro arrives, fault, out of service
Next Metro arrives 10 minutes later
Get to Chilli Road, track fault, been stuck here for 25 minutes and the driver's only been on to tell us he doesn't know how long it'll take.

f***ing hate relying on this piece of s*** like, I left work at 5:45.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:40:06 PM
Then they told us that our tickets would work on buses...buses that finished at 7:15

Knew I'd rue the day that I moved to somewhere that relied on these bunch of incompetent f*** wits like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:44:50 PM
Ive only had to get the bus once in four years.  Its not too bad, considering.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:47:56 PM
I see you've read Neesy's book on helping others.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Si on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:50:47 PM
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:53:39 PM
I see you've read Neesy's book on helping others.

WAT
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:53:39 PM
I swear the Metro is negatively affected by every and any weather condition you care to name. Too hot, too cold, leaves on the line in autumn, too windy, too much air in the air, snowing, not enough clouds in the sky and Aurora Borealis localised entirely within South Gosforth station.

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:57:38 PM
....
....

...

May I see it?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 19 June 2017, 07:59:53 PM
Yes! You'll have a good 5 minutes to look at it in SG whilst one driver slopes off and you wait to see if another one can be arsed to replace him.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 19 June 2017, 08:01:53 PM
I see you've read Neesy's book on helping others.

WAT


Me: x doesn't work
Neesy: x always works for me, it's a wonderful service.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 19 June 2017, 08:04:27 PM
I see you've read Neesy's book on helping others.


 :lol:  im note sure what else to say,  you had a bad e xperience,  it probably wont happen again.  Our if curiosity tjo,  why dud you go that route line back to tge Bay?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 19 June 2017, 08:12:05 PM
Nexus is censoring gimps messages. Worse than China this.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 19 June 2017, 08:21:49 PM
:lol: Kim Jong Ilford Road
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Monday 19 June 2017, 08:21:50 PM
Metros have been hopeless recently, feels like there's problems every day at rush hour.Few weeks ago I was waiting for one on a Friday which arrived but got taken out of service for 'cleaning' and then the one behind got taken out of service because it failed but no metros behind it could overtake it. My early Friday finish ended up taking ages to get home.

Did see a woman last week drop her phone onto the tracks which was amusing
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 19 June 2017, 08:27:33 PM
Nexus is censoring gimps messages. Worse than China this.

Fcking hell.  :lol: :lol:  in my defence i have my distance specs on.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 19 June 2017, 08:47:07 PM
I see you've read Neesy's book on helping others.

WAT


Me: x doesn't work
Neesy: x always works for me, it's a wonderful service.


:lol:  I sometimes do that but...

I'm the first one to complain about the metro, thankfully haven't used it in months hence why I'm happier.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 20 June 2017, 08:47:56 AM
Been working fine this morning.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: AfroP on Tuesday 20 June 2017, 09:07:45 AM

Fcking hell.  :lol: :lol:  in my defence i have my distance specs on.

that the same as your cock gogs?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 20 June 2017, 09:08:35 AM

Fcking hell.  :lol: :lol:  in my defence i have my distance specs on.

that the same as your cock gogs?


You put them on mate, you should know.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Tuesday 20 June 2017, 11:27:55 PM
Ah, f*** off. Metro's gonna be a shitshow between July 31 and Sep 1. Nowt between SG and 4LE for the first couple of weeks, then between SG and Shiremoor for the rest. f*** am I using replacement buses. Have you tried getting on one of those in rush hour? f*** that s***. I'm going the long way round.

:lol: Might end up reading some of the s**** you lot post. Or more likely finishing my crossword. I'm doing OK.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Tuesday 20 June 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Oh, and I got a bit internally cross with some awld daft who dragged her wheelie case across me at the bottom of the escalator tonight and I had to skip/hurdle/straddle it. She just trundles on completely ofuckingblivious.

Please, mrs newsted, don't ever be that. Tbf, my wife is f***ing sound. She makes me carry the c***. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 20 June 2017, 11:59:21 PM
Love the old biddies with their trollies who stop one pace in front of the top of the escalators. Pump nerve gas into the community centres I say.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 21 June 2017, 09:11:20 AM
Love the old biddies with their trollies who stop one pace in front of the top of the escalators. Pump nerve gas into the community centres I say.

The escalator stallers are the worst.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 24 June 2017, 09:28:50 PM
:lol: Got a bit of a surprise yesterday when a YOUNG lass with a wheelie-case decided to walk backwards so she could get it in front of her and stay on the right. Admirable intentions, but those toes she nearly stood on were mine. Pretty sure this fancy footwork won't last forever. Ever tried skipping backwards on a downward-travelling escalator? f***s with your brain, man. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 11 July 2017, 07:13:35 PM
Metro have had to take some Metro's off the schedule (for an undefined period of time) because they no longer have enough working trains.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 11 July 2017, 07:28:14 PM
Six trains failed this morning, all for different reasons, so they had to cancel some services.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 11 July 2017, 07:46:05 PM
All absolutely fine for me at 7:50 ish.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Wednesday 12 July 2017, 10:57:33 PM
Metro have had to take some Metro's off the schedule (for an undefined period of time) because they no longer have enough working trains.

Six trains failed this morning, all for different reasons, so they had to cancel some services.

Same tonight. I would have thought that's a basic when you're running trains. Have enough working trains.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 13 July 2017, 08:41:29 AM
Might have s*** all over them, if they were coming from Sunderland.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 13 July 2017, 10:34:23 AM
Metro have had to take some Metro's off the schedule (for an undefined period of time) because they no longer have enough working trains.

Six trains failed this morning, all for different reasons, so they had to cancel some services.

Same tonight. I would have thought that's a basic when you're running trains. Have enough working trains.
The trains are too old and lack of funding means they are failing. On top of that the Metro is a unique system where the rolling stock is specifically made for the Metro, instead of being off the shelf. They now have to get parts made for them, which takes time. It's a bit like trying to run a car from the late 70's, early 80's constantly every day. It's going to develop problems, on top of this, this car was a rare car even when it first came off the production line.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 13 July 2017, 10:39:15 AM
Government is going to be forced to provide financing for new rolling stock now surely?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 13 July 2017, 10:49:04 AM
Government is going to be forced to provide financing for new rolling stock now surely?

You would like to think so but its always pushed back andthey talk about a northern powerhouse...I wonder how much time and money is lost to the local economy when the metro has a stroke.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 13 July 2017, 10:49:45 AM
The metro has a stroke.  :lol: :lol:

I like that. :thup:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 13 July 2017, 10:50:28 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 13 July 2017, 10:54:21 AM
You are right about being the last for funding, although our councils are f***ing useless at working together to get funding sorted etc, and get investment into the region.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 13 July 2017, 11:03:21 AM
1  REGENT CENTRE          3m

2  AIRPORT                         9m

3  SOUTH GOSFORTH       15m

4  THE COAST                     26m


Platform getting gradually busier and busier as a grand total of about 8 or 9 people at peak times get on any of the first three metros. It's an absolute shitshow. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Thursday 13 July 2017, 11:37:28 AM
Another 7-8 years before the new trains are due isn't it?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 13 July 2017, 11:41:34 AM
 :lol:

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 13 July 2017, 11:52:29 AM
Another 7-8 years before the new trains are due isn't it?  :lol:

Around that.  Probably be better getting horses to pull the trains.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: jotenko on Thursday 13 July 2017, 05:20:51 PM
Is your Metro system public or private?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 13 July 2017, 05:33:42 PM
Is your Metro system public or private?
Public.  Was ran privately recently by the Germans who made a pig's ear of it amazingly.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 13 July 2017, 06:05:08 PM
Another 7-8 years before the new trains are due isn't it?  :lol:
2020 at the earliest. The tender is already out, but funding has yet to be secured.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 13 July 2017, 09:47:21 PM
Can't believe I didn't know about this until a few months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqE44n4A4g8
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 13 July 2017, 09:50:47 PM
Steve Wraith's branched out I see.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 13 July 2017, 09:59:58 PM
I saw they were recruiting for new drivers the last month or so. I can only imagine you'd be driving one of these... manually.

(http://i.imgur.com/P8Tge6P.jpg)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:24:52 PM
Four Lane Ends and Longbenton was a total mess this morning, it wasn't clear until 10:30!  6 months of this to go.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:25:40 PM
 :fuuu:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:26:40 PM
That new Bus Lane they put down is working wonders. No one knows it's there, so they all bottle neck from two to one lanes in the middle of the crossroad junction.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:29:44 PM
North Tyneside is going to grind to a halt. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:29:46 PM
I really do wonder if the metro/nexus is ran by monkeys at times.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:29:47 PM
This new Canadian who works at the council has a lot to answer for, like. He's removed most of our roundabouts for traffic lights and simultaneously managed to both create traffic and waste money. Complete and utter pig-headed idiocy.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:32:55 PM
 :lol: That's why all the traffic lights are appearing! Half of them don't even need to be on outside of rush hour either, like the ones on Quorom Roundabout. The bus lane at Four Lane Ends continues to make me chuckle the more I think about it, as there's no signage at all there's a bus lane ahead... until you're about to drive into the bus lane.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:32:56 PM
This new Canadian who works at the council has a lot to answer for, like. He's removed most of our roundabouts for traffic lights and simultaneously managed to both create traffic and waste money. Complete and utter pig-headed idiocy.

Traffic light systems cost 6 figures each to install.  Then the council complains they are skint.  Double standards.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:44:33 PM
They put traffic lights at Billy Mill, which was needed to be fair and they expanded Beach road leading away from the lights to dual lane but leading up to the lights as a single, so the traffic backs up all the way back to Tynemouth baths and Foxhunters.  They should have just put double lanes in both ways.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:47:42 PM
That one at Billy Mill is the only one I've seen where it seems fair enough. The one on Heaton Road is one f***ing stupid. The roundabout was absolutely fine, so they removed it, created traffic, and turned Tintern Crescent into a rat trap for people trying to avoid the lights. How no one predicted that happening when it's their job to is beyond me like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 20 July 2017, 02:59:30 PM
That one at Billy Mill is the only one I've seen where it seems fair enough. The one on Heaton Road is one f***ing stupid. The roundabout was absolutely fine, so they removed it, created traffic, and turned Tintern Crescent into a rat trap for people trying to avoid the lights. How no one predicted that happening when it's their job to is beyond me like.

They've put lights on that ?  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:05:40 PM
That one at Billy Mill is the only one I've seen where it seems fair enough. The one on Heaton Road is one f***ing stupid. The roundabout was absolutely fine, so they removed it, created traffic, and turned Tintern Crescent into a rat trap for people trying to avoid the lights. How no one predicted that happening when it's their job to is beyond me like.

They've put lights on that ?  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Aye, they've ruined everything basically. Everything.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:06:15 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

No need.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:20:27 PM
That one at Billy Mill is the only one I've seen where it seems fair enough. The one on Heaton Road is one f***ing stupid. The roundabout was absolutely fine, so they removed it, created traffic, and turned Tintern Crescent into a rat trap for people trying to avoid the lights. How no one predicted that happening when it's their job to is beyond me like.

They've put lights on that ?  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Aye, they've ruined everything basically. Everything.
Took them absolutely ages as well. Are they actually finished properly yet?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:30:59 PM
That one at Billy Mill is the only one I've seen where it seems fair enough. The one on Heaton Road is one f***ing stupid. The roundabout was absolutely fine, so they removed it, created traffic, and turned Tintern Crescent into a rat trap for people trying to avoid the lights. How no one predicted that happening when it's their job to is beyond me like.

They've put lights on that ?  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Aye, they've ruined everything basically. Everything.
Took them absolutely ages as well. Are they actually finished properly yet?

They're still busy putting bike lanes on Heaton Road.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:32:49 PM
Is that the one at the end of the Coast Road leading to Tynemouth or North Shields?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:35:34 PM
Is that the one at the end of the Coast Road leading to Tynemouth or North Shields?

Beach Road aye.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:38:40 PM
Oh aye that entire junction is a mess, but then it always was during rush hour. The amount of people bombing down the lanes like a sprint was insane considering the stationary traffic ahead.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:41:14 PM
Oh aye that entire junction is a mess, but then it always was during rush hour. The amount of people bombing down the lanes like a sprint was insane considering the stationary traffic ahead.

Very true.  People rake up to those lights heading to the coast.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:42:47 PM
I think you're thinking of a different junction. It's this one - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9827274,-1.5818499,3a,75y,165h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sERHpV30i7KGZimO1hfDNtQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DERHpV30i7KGZimO1hfDNtQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D165.29036%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

That's now 3 way traffic lights.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 20 July 2017, 03:57:13 PM
Now seems around about the right time to mention that I hate everything I've become.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 20 July 2017, 04:02:16 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Thursday 20 July 2017, 05:18:03 PM
Four Lane Ends has been locked up since 3pm. I can't imagine what it's like right now. Class.


Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Thursday 20 July 2017, 05:28:56 PM
That one at Billy Mill is the only one I've seen where it seems fair enough. The one on Heaton Road is one f***ing stupid. The roundabout was absolutely fine, so they removed it, created traffic, and turned Tintern Crescent into a rat trap for people trying to avoid the lights. How no one predicted that happening when it's their job to is beyond me like.

Heaton Rd is aaahful like. The traffic is busier now than it ever was previously.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Thursday 20 July 2017, 06:45:20 PM
Four Lane Ends and Longbenton was a total mess this morning, it wasn't clear until 10:30!  6 months of this to go.  :lol:

I left my house at 7:29 and got to work for 9:06. I was on the bus (X63) for 1h10m and 20 minutes of that was on West Farm Avenue.

Got a different bus home (63) and it only took an 1h5 to get to Killingworth but that was a stop that's 10-15 minutes walk from my house.

It took my lad 50 minutes to get from his work (Benton Park View) to Forest Hall at 3:30pm. :lol:

Complete farce. Oh and agree on those ridiculous bus lanes.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 20 July 2017, 10:32:22 PM
That one at Billy Mill is the only one I've seen where it seems fair enough. The one on Heaton Road is one f***ing stupid. The roundabout was absolutely fine, so they removed it, created traffic, and turned Tintern Crescent into a rat trap for people trying to avoid the lights. How no one predicted that happening when it's their job to is beyond me like.
Aye, I said before they even started it that they were putting a double one in the wrong way around. There is enough room to have a double lane each way as well. There is no need for the double lane heading down beach road, all the traffic is going towards town. Those lights are timed terribly though, I've seen the queue go all the way down the 2nd half of beach road, for some reason it's even worse on a Sunday.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 30 July 2017, 09:19:09 PM
4 weeks of Metro fuckery starts tomorrow, replacement buses and whatnot. :( Knock-on effects on traffic with people trying to be clever I expect.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Sunday 30 July 2017, 09:22:05 PM
This is going to be fun.  :lol: I'm going to plonk my lovely garden chair at Four Lane Ends and see how much rage there is.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 30 July 2017, 09:28:06 PM
It begins!!


Let slip the dogs of war.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 30 July 2017, 09:47:31 PM
:lol: f***ing Shakespeare here. Should've cried "Havoc!" first, like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:55:11 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned but the government have put back the talks around funding for the new trains as well :lol: They were due to begin nowish.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Sunday 30 July 2017, 11:00:19 PM
 :lol:

Class.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 31 July 2017, 08:08:55 AM
:lol: f***ing Shakespeare here. Should've cried "Havoc!" first, like.


I couldnt remember the opening line and couldnt be arsed to gewgle it. 

On metty now,  its been ok,  left monkseaton at 8:40 ish,  along coast route.  Forgot my headphones tho.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Monday 31 July 2017, 08:39:48 AM
The traffic wasn't too bad this morning with the metros being off, thankfully.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 July 2017, 09:45:41 AM
It's times like these that I'm thankful I use the pauper line.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 31 July 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Were you on the metro this morning with a laptop and  flowery shirt ?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 31 July 2017, 10:28:33 AM
The traffic won't be anywhere near as bad with the kids being off. I get the bus from the Haymarket down the Coast Road and thankfully noticed no difference.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 July 2017, 10:45:58 AM
Were you on the metro this morning with a laptop and  flowery shirt ?  :lol:

:lol: Nah, I own neither, thank f***.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 31 July 2017, 10:51:04 AM
Were you on the metro this morning with a laptop and  flowery shirt ?  :lol:

:lol: Nah, I own neither, thank f***.
Thought it was you being all "hey look at me, I'm working on the metro"  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 31 July 2017, 01:13:54 PM
They did this 4 year ago at the same time pretty much between Haymarket and Four Lane Ends for about 6 weeks and it was fine surprisingly.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 1 August 2017, 01:47:53 PM
Metros going the non-scenic route from town to the coast all f***ing heaving, like. You'd think they might put a few more on, but that would make far too much sense.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 1 August 2017, 02:32:42 PM
They never do.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 1 August 2017, 03:06:43 PM
Might have to be pulled out of service due to speed rust from increased exposure to sea air.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 1 August 2017, 03:12:30 PM
Aye, a few years ago especially I used to feel like every Metro Apologises was as a result of favourable conditions. My Metro was delayed the other day due to 'loads of cattle' on the track. :lol: Fair enough.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 13 September 2017, 10:05:31 AM
These c***s. :angry:

Quote
Consequential loss
Metro will not accept responsibility for any consequential losses for example loss of earnings, taxi fares, missed appointments or missed connections. For further information, please see our Conditions of Carriage.

It cost me £22 in taxi fares last night because of these c***s.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 13 September 2017, 09:50:27 PM
I filled a refund form in due to a train breaking down on the way home from a NUFC game. I took the form to the Metro shop in South Shields. They said they'd send it in for me. I never heard anything again. The form was a real hassle. I filled it in on principle. It wasn't worth my time but I thought if they're going to waste my time I'll waste there's. The refund process is a joke. The form needs to be hand written and you need to describe the event and attach your ticket then take it to a Metro shop. The refund is by cheque! I'm certain the whole process is designed to put people off applying for a refund and I'm sure it works very well in that respect. Otherwise they'd be constantly refunding people.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 13 September 2017, 10:12:04 PM
I filled a refund form in due to a train breaking down on the way home from a NUFC game. I took the form to the Metro shop in South Shields. They said they'd send it in for me. I never heard anything again. The form was a real hassle. I filled it in on principle. It wasn't worth my time but I thought if they're going to waste my time I'll waste there's. The refund process is a joke. The form needs to be hand written and you need to describe the event and attach your ticket then take it to a Metro shop. The refund is by cheque! I'm certain the whole process is designed to put people off applying for a refund and I'm sure it works very well in that respect. Otherwise they'd be constantly refunding people.
It's 2017.  It should be electronic, if it isn't it's so they can make it as hard as possible.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 14 September 2017, 11:40:38 AM
Its deliberate to put people off.  If you make claims easy or complaints easy you'll be giving yourself a massive pain in the neck.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 14 September 2017, 01:14:20 PM
Could always just try and make a service people don't complain about :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 14 September 2017, 01:49:29 PM
Could always just try and make a service people don't complain about :lol:

Maybe they could if they received a fraction of what London spends on its transportation infrastructure.  :undecided:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 16 September 2017, 01:15:15 PM
https://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/metro-nominated-five-top-industry-awards
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 16 September 2017, 01:46:17 PM
 :spit:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 16 September 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Ffs
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 17 September 2017, 06:43:50 PM
"There will be no award collected today due to a lack of representatives at the ceremony. Metro apologises"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Sunday 17 September 2017, 07:03:01 PM
The impossible job....

https://www.nexus.org.uk/careers/maintenance-technicians
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Sunday 17 September 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Possibly the only job for life though.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:07:10 AM
I'll hold back on moaning about the Metro's piece of s*** service because I've done that plenty, but I was just wondering how everyone else ensures that they're in on time?

My start time is 9:30 and I aim for 9 so I've got that half an hour safety net. This morning the Metro was so bad (massively late, then terminated early, replacement 10 minutes later) that I didn't get until 10. It's getting to the point where I'm going to have to aim to be in for 8:30. It really shouldn't be allowed like. The c***s had the cheek to say they were running a 'normal service, but not to timetable' - so not a normal service then.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:18:56 AM
Seems to have really deteriorated in the time I've been away (9 years) and tbh it was pretty s*** when I left.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:25:51 AM
Unless you live South Gosforth to Pelaw I wouldn't want to be reliant on it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:28:04 AM
It's been about 4 years since I used it regularly and it had deteriorated then from when I'd used it all the time in 2010, when it was already really unreliable. At each point I didn't think that it could get any worse. I'm struggling to think of how it could get worse than it is now tbh, but nothing would surprise me. Every time I'm on the Metro it smells like it's going to burst into flames tbh, it smells exactly like a huge overheating Scalextric.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:50:27 AM
It's been about 4 years since I used it regularly and it had deteriorated then from when I'd used it all the time in 2010, when it was already really unreliable. At each point I didn't think that it could get any worse. I'm struggling to think of how it could get worse than it is now tbh, but nothing would surprise me. Every time I'm on the Metro it smells like it's going to burst into flames tbh, it smells exactly like a huge overheating Scalextric.

I'm used to the burning smell and have sorted out an escape plan if the carriage bursts into flames.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:54:26 AM
It's been about 4 years since I used it regularly and it had deteriorated then from when I'd used it all the time in 2010, when it was already really unreliable. At each point I didn't think that it could get any worse. I'm struggling to think of how it could get worse than it is now tbh, but nothing would surprise me. Every time I'm on the Metro it smells like it's going to burst into flames tbh, it smells exactly like a huge overheating Scalextric.

I'm used to the burning smell and have sorted out an escape plan if the carriage bursts into flames.

:lol: Me too.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:56:27 AM
Apparently that's a "low rail adhesion" (ie leaves on the line) thing.  The wheels don't grip the tracks properly and spin.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:01:17 AM
Surely in today's world, we can sort out the leaves on the line s***.  Can't a train beam a laser to burn the leaves as the train is approaching?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sima on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:04:29 AM
Surely in today's world, we can sort out the leaves on the line s***.  Can't a train beam a laser to burn the leaves as the train is approaching?

These trains are from 1985 tbf, best off attaching a giant plow to the front.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:05:42 AM
Apparently that's a "low rail adhesion" (ie leaves on the line) thing.  The wheels don't grip the tracks properly and spin.

Yeah Ive seen a metty wheel spinning at Monkseaton before.  It would be a sight to be hold, a metro in flames wheel spinning.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:07:54 AM
Well it is coming up to Guy Fawkes. It would be apt.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:09:20 AM
Like Ghost Rider but he has lost his bike and has to catch the metro instead.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:14:37 AM
Surely in today's world, we can sort out the leaves on the line s***.  Can't a train beam a laser to burn the leaves as the train is approaching?
If such laser beam technology existed I think you'd have seen it used by the military before Metro.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:18:56 AM
Surely in today's world, we can sort out the leaves on the line s***.  Can't a train beam a laser to burn the leaves as the train is approaching?
If such laser beam technology existed I think you'd have seen it used by the military before Metro.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22429984-800-locked-on-lasers-burn-through-leaves-on-train-lines/

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:20:18 AM
We cant even afford new trains, never mind equipping them with laser to clear leaves off the track.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:32:10 AM
It's surely a problem they've made for themselves since the upgrade? Leaves on the track isn't a problem for other trains and it wasn't a problem before the upgrade.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 11:35:04 AM
I don't recall any Victorian historical reports saying they had delays because of leaves on the track.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 16 October 2017, 12:52:55 PM
I don't recall any Victorian historical reports saying they had delays because of leaves on the track.

Well, I'd be surprised if they had actual live timetables.......
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 01:21:53 PM
I don't recall any Victorian historical reports saying they had delays because of leaves on the track.

Well, I'd be surprised if they had actual live timetables.......

No but considering the Victorians were massively rail way and engineering builders you'd think they would have spoken about it in their records.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 16 October 2017, 01:53:48 PM
I believe it was Killy's own inhabitant George Stephenson who said "leaves can f*** right off"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 16 October 2017, 02:30:07 PM
Surely in today's world, we can sort out the leaves on the line s***.  Can't a train beam a laser to burn the leaves as the train is approaching?
If such laser beam technology existed I think you'd have seen it used by the military before Metro.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22429984-800-locked-on-lasers-burn-through-leaves-on-train-lines/


"Trains with freakin laser beams". Sounds like those lasers aren't in service anywhere yet. Metro do have anti leaf vehicles to treat the line. There's often this low adhesion problem in Autumn. They cut back the trees near the lines but obviously leaves fall everywhere and get blown around.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Monday 16 October 2017, 03:49:56 PM
Was an absolute nightmare this morning. Hope it's sorted itself out before rush hour tonight
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 03:51:33 PM
Metros breaks in action

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Esc3qaRcdMNWw/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Monday 16 October 2017, 07:53:39 PM
I don't recall any Victorian historical reports saying they had delays because of leaves on the track.

Well, I'd be surprised if they had actual live timetables.......

No but considering the Victorians were massively rail way and engineering builders you'd think they would have spoken about it in their records.


Funnily enough....

There is a direct correlation between the Steam era finishing and the increase in adhesion issues.

During the steam age, line side vegetation management was an absolute priority, cinders from trains setting fire to the bank side was a real risk.  As the requirement to manage the line side decreased, the vegetation has crept closer and closer to the railway.

Of course, it does not help that vegetation management is a difficult KPI measurement therefore its easy to cut the budget.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 16 October 2017, 08:47:08 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Monday 16 October 2017, 09:15:52 PM
This morning, four trains terminated at South Gosforth in a row and the next one for the Coast wasn't for another 20 minutes after.

Beyond useless.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 16 October 2017, 10:57:23 PM
Apparently it’s only certain tree’s that have leaves that cause this problem. All the Metro has to do is cut back overhanging tree’s and the problem goes away. Shockingly it was only a year or two ago North Tyneside council rejecting the removal of one such tree because ‘It’s close to a Metro line’.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 17 October 2017, 05:15:37 AM
I don't recall any Victorian historical reports saying they had delays because of leaves on the track.

Well, I'd be surprised if they had actual live timetables.......

No but considering the Victorians were massively rail way and engineering builders you'd think they would have spoken about it in their records.


Funnily enough....

There is a direct correlation between the Steam era finishing and the increase in adhesion issues.

During the steam age, line side vegetation management was an absolute priority, cinders from trains setting fire to the bank side was a real risk.  As the requirement to manage the line side decreased, the vegetation has crept closer and closer to the railway.

Of course, it does not help that vegetation management is a difficult KPI measurement therefore its easy to cut the budget.

So lasers on the front and big assed hoses on the side spraying agent Orange as it goes along.  Piece of p*ss this train design stuff.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 17 October 2017, 08:34:36 AM
We wheel spun a treat this morning at Benton.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 17 October 2017, 09:10:06 AM
Two days running a train has been missing with no explanation. "Delays to the system" doesn't explain a train not turning up at all. I get an email at 7:30am with the current state of the system. "We are running a good service" it said. 20 minutes later I get to the Metro station and there is "Delays to the system" on the message screen and a train is missing.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: madras on Friday 20 October 2017, 04:41:30 PM
I don't recall any Victorian historical reports saying they had delays because of leaves on the track.

Well, I'd be surprised if they had actual live timetables.......

No but considering the Victorians were massively rail way and engineering builders you'd think they would have spoken about it in their records.


Funnily enough....

There is a direct correlation between the Steam era finishing and the increase in adhesion issues.

During the steam age, line side vegetation management was an absolute priority, cinders from trains setting fire to the bank side was a real risk.  As the requirement to manage the line side decreased, the vegetation has crept closer and closer to the railway.

Of course, it does not help that vegetation management is a difficult KPI measurement therefore its easy to cut the budget.
I can verify that trains have been sliding on leaf much for well over a hundred years but back then things didn't get reported so much,

Oh the joys of drinking with a couple of train drivers
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 23 October 2017, 08:35:23 AM
I watch NHK World on Sky, and there’s a show on there about Japanese railways. They are so far advanced compared to us it’s a joke. There’s absolutely no excuse why our relatively small Metro network shouldn’t work on a consistent basis compared to mass transit in other cities. If a Japanese operator came in and take control of the Metro, it would be an absolute blessing.

* cough Brexit.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 23 October 2017, 08:37:13 AM
I watch NHK World on Sky, and there’s a show on there about Japanese railways. They are so far advanced compared to us it’s a joke. There’s absolutely no excuse why our relatively small Metro network shouldn’t work on a consistent basis compared to mass transit in other cities. If a Japanese operator came in and take control of the Metro, it would be an absolute blessing.

* cough Brexit.

The Germans, who are probably behind the Japanese made it worse.  It's simply a creaking network with some Victorian infrastructure still.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 23 October 2017, 12:42:56 PM
Good article explaining why breakdowns are so frequent. Basically 37 year trains long overdue replacement.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/keeping-metro-going-anyone-who-13796191
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 23 October 2017, 10:51:16 PM
They aim the article as though they should get sympathy but just highlights how s*** they are.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 23 October 2017, 11:26:09 PM
Whose fault it is that the Metro still uses 37 year old trains and the maintenance sheds are too small?

Was the Metro originally public owned then private owned and now back to public ownership again?

The article explained to me why the Metro is always having issues. Doesn't really make much difference whose fault it was when your standing waiting for a late/cancelled train.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 23 October 2017, 11:53:39 PM
Those trains that got refurbished came back even more unreliable with constant issues with the doors.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 24 October 2017, 12:38:48 AM
Those trains that got refurbished came back even more unreliable with constant issues with the doors.

And the company bringing them up here decided to store them in Cramlington at the side of the road, which meant most of the Newcastle writing scene found out & ended up painting them there as its obviously easy pickings compared to the yard, which resulted in them being rejected upon delivery to the depo and having to be sent all the way back. (I think this was the case for ~5 carriages)

I'm glad I live 5min away from work now :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:50:33 AM
RIP Metro.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:11:18 AM
Whole thing off. :lol:

Government doesn't see a problem.


Horseshit.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:36:42 AM
the whole metro is off? :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:42:15 AM
I know someone who works for Wabtec in Doncaster, the company who did the Metro refurbishments.

Back when the refurbishments were happening he was telling me how Nexus were more interested in the aesthetics of the Metro units rather than the mechanical side. Apparently they wasted a large chunk of money trying to have rivets that didn’t show (which I think they then pulled the plug on when they realised it couldn’t be done for the budget they had). At the time he told me how they were going to run out of money and that there was no chance that all the units would be refurbished. I posted this information on SSC at the time and other people questioned Nexus on the issue, which they denied. A few months later they then announced that the Metro unit programme had over ran it’s budget which would result in some Metro units not being refurbished.

One of the biggest reasons for a Metro train going out of service is the door mechanism failing, something that wouldn’t have happened had they spent more of the money on replacing these systems rather than refurbishing them.

For as much as the Metro does need investment and new trains, Nexus are very poor at running it. Simple things like focussing the budget on the mechanics and cutting back trees near the line could prevent a lot of the issues that see’s services suspended. From what I have read from people who work there I get the impression that it’s ran by people who used to run busses before the Metro existed. As result they are not aware of the unique challenges a Metro system faces, and they are stuck in the mindset that if you paint it in a bright colour and deny your late then passengers will appear to be satisfied.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 October 2017, 11:48:00 AM
It's getting to the point where it's unworkable now. It can't last until 2020 or whenever it is.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 12:32:41 PM
Aye.  No electricity at the depot or something like that.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Slim on Sunday 29 October 2017, 03:09:24 PM
One day I need to get a metro.....
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 29 October 2017, 03:10:36 PM


One of the biggest reasons for a Metro train going out of service is the door mechanism failing


It's always the f***ing doors. I guess they can't leave a trail of passengers behind them if they open en route but it seems such an issue they should prioritise it tbh. Pisses me off everyone having to get off and wait for one that works.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 03:12:28 PM
Still completely off.  Good job it's a sunday.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 29 October 2017, 03:20:10 PM
Chaos if it's still off tomorrow
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 04:03:33 PM
Man this thread is weird, I have insanely fond memories of the metty but thinking back it would have been 12 years or so since I really used it. Sounds like an absolute ordeal now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Open_C on Sunday 29 October 2017, 04:09:57 PM
I only use it once every two or three weeks but I have never, ever in my life known anything other than a speedy and efficient service
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Sunday 29 October 2017, 04:42:48 PM
I only use it once every two or three weeks but I have never, ever in my life known anything other than a speedy and efficient service

Depends where you are using it. I don't live in the area anymore but when I lived in Gosforth I would use it once a week or so from South Gosforth to town and it was always fine, a quick and efficient way of getting into town but clearly in other areas there are regular delays and train failures etc.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Sunday 29 October 2017, 05:25:21 PM
I only use it once every two or three weeks but I have never, ever in my life known anything other than a speedy and efficient service

Depends where you are using it. I don't live in the area anymore but when I lived in Gosforth I would use it once a week or so from South Gosforth to town and it was always fine, a quick and efficient way of getting into town but clearly in other areas there are regular delays and train failures etc.

It's MUCH better than the bus cos no traffic problems, but irritating when something breaks. They do their best, but can only work with what they've got. I'll take it, but it's improveable. From SG you've got two lines coming in so that's more options, further out you've only got one. Always amuses me that the morning news can't understand that a 10 minute delay at one point just irons itself out in like 10 minutes, unless there's a dead train on the track or something. Where do they conjure up the replacement buses from? Quite impressive tbh. I like a whinge as much as the next Metro w*****, but I think it's pretty, pretty good all told.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Sunday 29 October 2017, 05:49:32 PM
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Sunday 29 October 2017, 05:56:19 PM
Imagine if the Tube just decided it was having the day off.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 29 October 2017, 05:57:33 PM

No chance that will be on time
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 29 October 2017, 05:58:03 PM
The lack of investment is a disgrace.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:19:42 PM
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:26:27 PM
They’ve had OHL power problems all day.
They are just about to begin running down towards Sunderland now...as in right now.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:27:33 PM
My own thoughts...

Someone put an old pound coin in the electricity meter.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:29:20 PM
They've closed the twitter with everyone waiting to find out if it will be running in the morning for work and directed everyone to the Nexus website, which has now gone down due to volume of traffic.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:32:13 PM
If nowt else they're f***ing master trolls.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:37:16 PM
Imagine when they log back into twitter tomorrow man, it’ll go berserk.

I’ve not come across any accountability on their behalf, nowt will be learned.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:37:36 PM
Not like this hasn't happened before....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-30788673
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:39:59 PM
They worked out you could access Twitter from outside the office...


Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:42:04 PM
Definitely an unpopular opinion this... but I've never found the metro to be that bad, certainly not as bad as is made out by most people. I feel it's a little pricey at £5 for a daysaver, but the service itself has always been good in my experience. I travel to Northumberland Park from South Shields fairly regularly and I've always arrived there well on time. Trains are clean and frequent enough. Am I just lucky, perhaps?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:55:34 PM
You only really notice it when you use it daily tbh. Its service levels will still be a high % I imagine, which means you'll get it most of the time, but if you're using it every day anything below like 95% isn't good enough.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: PCW1983 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:57:50 PM
Definitely an unpopular opinion this... but I've never found the metro to be that bad, certainly not as bad as is made out by most people. I feel it's a little pricey at £5 for a daysaver, but the service itself has always been good in my experience. I travel to Northumberland Park from South Shields fairly regularly and I've always arrived there well on time. Trains are clean and frequent enough. Am I just lucky, perhaps?

To be fair, they don’t have a big budget and are having to live with an aged infrastructure and fleet.

It’s an obviously difficult scenario for them, they need new fleet but cannot access the funds directly or raise the funds themselves.
They are also impacted in ways which they cannot do anything about, Sunderland Direct for an example, Network Rail can cause monumental delay in that area and there is nothing that Metro can do about it, to rub salt in the wound, the schedule 8 fines paid to Metro by NR as a result of delay is pennies comparative to say Northern or one of the major TOC’s.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:13:52 PM
Anyone who has to use this on a daily basis has my deepest sympathies.

I think the TT & A19 is bad, one week using this going to QA training courses in town has me back in check.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:20:18 PM
You only really notice it when you use it daily tbh. Its service levels will still be a high % I imagine, which means you'll get it most of the time, but if you're using it every day anything below like 95% isn't good enough.

You're probably right, but given the way a lot of people seem to regard the service and the way they speak about it, you would think it was constantly abysmal. I'm not so sure that's the case though. I definitely understand the frustration at paying for and relying on a service and then having it let you down and getting in the way of day to day life. But the way people go on is as if they inconvenience people for their own amusement, when, as PCW1983 has outlined in his post, they're up against it in many ways and still deliver a very good service most of the time. I'm just unsure if this incredibly bad rep they have is really reflective of the reality.

Then again, I'm a pretty passive and non-resisting type of person, so when something goes wrong I tend to just get on with it without much complaining which probably changes my perceptions and recollections of things like a train not turning up on time...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 October 2017, 11:57:34 PM
The frustration isn't so much with the people doing their best to run it, but the government responsible for not funding it when it's deteriorating quicker than the supposed few years before any funding can be green lit.

When you use it every day, it feels like it goes wrong a lot, even when it manages to still get you there through a train just behind, or delays to the timetable, the bigger stuff like this gets more of a mention because if you posted every time there was a problem, it would be nigh on every day for someone.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 30 October 2017, 07:18:42 AM
I've never understood how there can be delays of upto 15 minutes on the Metro when they run to all destinations every 12 minutes and most destinations every 5 minutes or so.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 30 October 2017, 07:50:12 AM
Now back to the low rail adhesion delays.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Monday 30 October 2017, 09:12:20 AM
At least today is going smoothly.  Just 25 minute delays today
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Monday 30 October 2017, 09:53:18 AM
Geet in, I'm off today, all you Metro w*****s.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Monday 30 October 2017, 11:18:53 AM
It's the Simpsons of public transport.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 30 October 2017, 12:44:26 PM
The train was so full this morning it was like the Tokyo subway. Could have done with those people in white gloves pushing everyone on so the doors can close. One train every 18 minutes when everyone is using it to go to work makes for a very full train. How come low rail adhesion means trains disappear? At least some sort of service was running though so an improvement on yesterday.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 03:06:45 PM
The train was so full this morning it was like the Tokyo subway. Could have done with those people in white gloves pushing everyone on so the doors can close. One train every 18 minutes when everyone is using it to go to work makes for a very full train. How come low rail adhesion means trains disappear? At least some sort of service was running though so an improvement on yesterday.

Nexus Metro have been running Philadelphia style experiments in the hope that they can make trains appear at will at any destination on the metro line.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Elric on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 09:38:24 PM
The train was so full this morning it was like the Tokyo subway. Could have done with those people in white gloves pushing everyone on so the doors can close. One train every 18 minutes when everyone is using it to go to work makes for a very full train. How come low rail adhesion means trains disappear? At least some sort of service was running though so an improvement on yesterday.

Nexus Metro have been running Philadelphia style experiments in the hope that they can make trains appear at will at any destination on the metro line.


Probably more like Event Horizon, knowing these c***s.

"Metro...[static]... apologise for the delay due to... [static]...
liberate tutemet ex inferis... [static]... caused by...[screaming]"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 1 November 2017, 09:42:12 AM
 :lol:

It was packed again this morning. I caught the 7:50ish metro from Monkseaton, packed by Palmersville.  :lol:

Its going to be even more painful when they build that new housing estate with a new Metro stop, across from Rake Lane hospital. 5000 new homes or something going up?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 1 November 2017, 09:44:06 AM
I find it incredible that you have a 2 carriage train every 10 minutes on that thing.

How many does a carriage hold, a hundred or summit?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 1 November 2017, 10:37:40 AM
Probably around that figure.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 November 2017, 03:07:40 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-fares-going-up-again-13879974
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 9 November 2017, 03:11:58 PM
It's probably about time I got a car tbf.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 9 November 2017, 06:48:18 PM
It's probably about time I got a car tbf.

I should probably learn to drive at some point before I hit 40...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Thursday 9 November 2017, 06:53:36 PM
It's probably about time I got a car tbf.

I should probably learn to drive at some point before I hit 40...

Likewise (32)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 November 2017, 06:53:55 PM
It's probably about time I got a car tbf.

I should probably learn to drive at some point before I hit 40...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 November 2017, 06:56:49 PM
Not metro, but my journey to work from Washington to Team Valley is a farce if I miss a charted bus which goes direct.  Basically was sat waiting 45 minutes for 2 buses.  Took me 1 hour 25 minutes for what is a 6.5 mile journey, I could had walked most of it within that time.  Public transport in general is a joke (though I've noticed that traffic in the NE is starting to get ridiculous levels and is increasing).

I'm going to sack off personal projects to make driving my number 1 priority.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Elric on Thursday 9 November 2017, 07:43:32 PM
It's probably about time I got a car tbf.

I should probably learn to drive at some point before I hit 40...

Likewise (32)

Same. 34. Keep getting license forms from the post office and not filling them in :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BottledDog on Thursday 9 November 2017, 09:39:33 PM
Took me ages to get round to it as living in London it never seemed a priority. Reckon it might  be easier when you're older too, whey at least if you cycle around a fair bit. Took a crash course of 3 days of lessons when I hit 40 and passed. Mind you, that maybe to do with taking it in Blyth - pretty chilled test. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 01:07:41 PM
Petition for a government grant for funding replacement trains. :thup:

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/government-funding-for-tyne-and-wear-metro
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 01:50:32 PM
Petition for a government grant for funding replacement trains. :thup:

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/government-funding-for-tyne-and-wear-metro
:thup:
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Post by: Jill on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 02:16:27 PM
Signed. :thup:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 04:05:33 PM
Quote
New trains will costs around £435 million

What a f***ing bargain that is.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 04:14:06 PM
Not bad considering that the original quote was £692 billion
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 04:28:44 PM
That's quite a range.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 04:30:09 PM
Signed it, may as well have signed a petition requesting funds to build a rocket to the moon I'd imagine like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 04:34:43 PM
Signed it, may as well have signed a petition requesting funds to build a rocket to the moon I'd imagine like.

Going nowhere with leaves on the launch pad.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 11:55:30 AM
I see the Birmingham Metro (whatever that consists of) got £250m off the Government this week.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Toondave on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 01:03:44 PM
£370m promised in budget.

Might have misheard, seen £337m written down, either way was 300 and something  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 10:45:51 PM
As you'd expect the old trains won't be replaced overnight with the new trains. They'll be phased in as they're built. In 2021 you'll be sitting on a new Metro train which is stopped due to an old Metro train having broken down ahead of it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 10:50:41 PM
£370m promised in budget.

Might have misheard, seen £337m written down, either way was 300 and something  :lol:
£337m from the budget, and another £25m coming in from local funding.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 24 November 2017, 09:40:57 AM
It's going to be a slog getting over the finish line, like, but that's great news that they're getting replaced.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 November 2017, 07:32:19 PM
Wonder if the new rolling stock will help with low rail adhesion....
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Friday 24 November 2017, 07:44:03 PM
Suspension trains are the way to go.

(https://lh6.ggpht.com/-orwe9zVgleo/T-6-LCTH0eI/AAAAAAAAQYA/ZnhAR8N5Qyc/New%252520Picture_thumb%25255B5%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800)

High rail adhesion, metros delayed
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 November 2017, 07:46:52 PM
I prefer monorail.

(https://meblogwritegood.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/screen-shot-2011-09-18-at-7-05-37-pm.png)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: U2 on Friday 24 November 2017, 07:55:57 PM
Mono = one
Rail = rail
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Friday 24 November 2017, 07:58:20 PM
I've sold monorails to Brockley Wins, Palmersville and North Shields and by gum it put them on the map
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Friday 24 November 2017, 07:59:23 PM
I call the big one Bitey
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Friday 24 November 2017, 08:16:16 PM
I've sold monorails to Brockley Wins, Palmersville and North Shields and by gum it put them on the map

:lol::lol:

The irony being anyone from the former has already lost...at life.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 24 November 2017, 08:43:53 PM
I've sold monorails to Brockley Wins, Palmersville and North Shields and by gum it put them on the map

:clap:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 25 November 2017, 08:46:36 PM
Did anyone hear two explosions at about 1am in Monkseaton?  Internet reckons it was some kind of metro electrical thing.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 28 November 2017, 09:29:30 AM
I'm 5 mins walk away and heard nothing.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Rich on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 09:24:08 AM
What are people’s thoughts on Metro prices these days? Just got back home so I’m using it again, quite taken aback that it’s £5 for a three zone return! Of course there have been delays on the service every day I’ve used it as well :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 09:28:08 AM
Every time I'm in Newcastle I think the metros and buses are dear as f*** tbh, for what you're getting.

Think the bus cost me about £3 one way from Foxhunters to town last time I was up.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 09:30:56 AM
I think the localised fares are expensive (as are buses) but say if you're going to the Airport to Shields/chickentown then £5 isn't too shabby.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Rich on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 09:33:05 AM
I think the localised fares are expensive (as are buses) but say if you're going to the Airport to Shields/chickentown then £5 isn't too shabby.

I’m going a canny clip to be fair, but for trains that run every 14 minutes and are always breaking I still feel like I’m getting my eyes gouged out. Never thought I’d be pining for the tube.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 09:38:00 AM
Every time I'm in Newcastle I think the metros and buses are dear as f*** tbh, for what you're getting.

Think the bus cost me about £3 one way from Foxhunters to town last time I was up.
Busses are a rip off, especially single fares. A few months back me and some friends were heading to Blyth before heading into town, it cost us £3.70 each to get to Blyth from Foxhunters. The other week it cost me £3.00 to go from North Shields to Cobalt, both of those were single fares.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Toondave on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 09:47:22 AM
Need to get some oyster cards on the go. Paying per trip is very 20th century
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 10:13:48 AM
If you have an annual pass it's not that bad, I pay like £60 a month for an unlimited all zones Metro pass. If you don't get a pass, or a pass through your work it's a proper rip off though. Nexus knows that the Metro is the only choice for a lot of people so they can charge whatever they want providing it's still cheaper than driving.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Rich on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 11:13:52 AM
If you have an annual pass it's not that bad, I pay like £60 a month for an unlimited all zones Metro pass. If you don't get a pass, or a pass through your work it's a proper rip off though. Nexus knows that the Metro is the only choice for a lot of people so they can charge whatever they want providing it's still cheaper than driving.

:thup:

Hoping to get a car sorted soon, but this seems decent. Works on weekends as well? I'm already at £25 a week before two/three trips to the match are accounted for.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 29 November 2017, 11:23:00 AM
Yeah it works at any time. It's the Corporate MetroSaver I think, if you can use the bus and get the Stagecoach version that's even better and like £40 as well.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 4 December 2017, 07:52:51 AM
Off between Newcastle and Sunderland & Shields.

Good luck everyone.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Monday 4 December 2017, 09:43:40 AM
Metro Ken obviously heard about the dirty protest and has acted appropriately. Well done Ken.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 4 December 2017, 02:24:13 PM
Cable thieves was the reason for the disruption. If caught they should be pulled apart by two (working) Metro trains.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 4 December 2017, 08:11:46 PM
 :bluestar:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 11 December 2017, 06:34:32 AM
Quote
Delays to services due to severe weather. Currently we have 6 failed trains upon leaving the depot, including the first train to Sunderland and back, and first train to Airport and back.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 11 December 2017, 11:32:22 AM
I managed ok this morning, train was packed by the time it got to Monkseaton but other than that, pretty much on time.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 11 December 2017, 01:58:40 PM
Calling the weather "severe" is a huge exaggeration.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 11 December 2017, 03:52:45 PM
Calling the weather "severe" is a huge exaggeration.

Yep, its a tiny bit of snow.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Monday 11 December 2017, 08:51:56 PM
Every time I'm in Newcastle I think the metros and buses are dear as f*** tbh, for what you're getting.

Think the bus cost me about £3 one way from Foxhunters to town last time I was up.

It's still a fiver for a daysaver when they dig the track up and you have to get a replacement bus halfway to town, it's absolutely f***ing disgraceful.

Best bit is that the Metro tends to leave Four Lane Ends for town roughly 15 seconds after the bus pulls up, so you just miss it and wait 15 minutes for the next one. Amazing how they can't properly sync the two.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 11 December 2017, 08:54:07 PM
Every time I'm in Newcastle I think the metros and buses are dear as f*** tbh, for what you're getting.

Think the bus cost me about £3 one way from Foxhunters to town last time I was up.

It's still a fiver for a daysaver when they dig the track up and you have to get a replacement bus halfway to town, it's absolutely f***ing disgraceful.

Best bit is that the Metro tends to leave Four Lane Ends for town roughly 15 seconds after the bus pulls up, so you just miss it and wait 15 minutes for the next one. Amazing how they can't properly sync the two.
Similar in heworth to the bus to Washington.  The driver always leaves on time.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 12 December 2017, 07:43:25 AM
Leaves on the server

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 12 December 2017, 08:43:53 AM
Switch it off and on again.

Jobs a good'un.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 12 December 2017, 08:45:08 AM
Leaves on the server

Website isn’t working, links to website for more details. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Monday 15 January 2018, 10:46:43 PM
Coming home tonight, driver kicks everyone off at S Gosforth because his train isn't running fast enough. f***'s sake, man, it's working, just take us all home. Nah, out in the rain, you plebs, and wait for the one after next where you can cram onto a f***ing rammed car and bury your face in some rancid f***er's armpit. Jesus.

And last week I waited 50 minutes because something in Felling. Well I'm sure they were doing what they could, so I didn't kick off, plus I found out that's how long it takes to finish the Eye Crossword, but what p*ssed me off was the buses were only taking Metro tickets between Gateshead and Hebburn or something. How can transport professionals not realise that the delays will be system-wide? What the actual f***? If a train can't get from A to B it's not gonna get to C, D, E and the rest of the alphabet. f***ing gonks. They do that on the local news as well: "There are 25 minute delays between X and Y...". I mean, I know they're just reading what they're given, but that's not how it works. There WAS a 25 minute travelling delay which will have sorted itself out soon because railways, so ignore this tbh, would be more accurate.

In short I got my head wet, so I'm cross. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 10:12:24 AM
They have put the new trains contract out to tender.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Si on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 10:14:35 AM
They have put the new trains contract out to render.
Sounds about right.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 10:30:01 AM
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 13 August 2018, 11:27:32 PM

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 08:37:23 AM
How on earth can you take a wrong turn like that?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 09:05:35 AM
How on earth can you take a wrong turn like that?  :lol:

"Recalculating route"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 09:09:10 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 10:13:24 AM
How on earth can you take a wrong turn like that?  :lol:

"Recalculating route"

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 11:47:23 AM
How on earth can you take a wrong turn like that?  :lol:

"Recalculating route"

 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 05:23:22 PM
How on earth can you take a wrong turn like that?  :lol:

Old person. They should have their driving licence taken off them if that's the sort of driving error they make.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 05:26:28 PM
Why would they just leave it there though? Surely they'd reverse the f*** out of there ASAP...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 05:28:27 PM
Have you seen how expensive parking in town is these days
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 06:39:28 PM
Why would they just leave it there though? Surely they'd reverse the f*** out of there ASAP...

Quote
A Nexus spokesperson said that police and Metro engineers were assessing the situation before moving the car and letting trains run again.

The level crossing and the track was also being checked for any damage.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/see-shocking-moment-elderly-woman-15026480
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 11:38:52 PM
Why would they just leave it there though? Surely they'd reverse the f*** out of there ASAP...

Quote
A Nexus spokesperson said that police and Metro engineers were assessing the situation before moving the car and letting trains run again.

The level crossing and the track was also being checked for any damage.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/see-shocking-moment-elderly-woman-15026480
About 10 years ago an alcoholic woman did the same thing. She managed to start turning her life around, got off the drink etc and she got a job in the shop me and Ste worked in. She was dead canny, and was obviously a recovering alcoholic who hadn’t touched drink for a few years after the incident. The thing was though was one of the supervisors was a f***ing c***, and he was shagging one of the employees who just went out of her way to cause trouble for people for the laugh and they both found out about what she did about 6 weeks into her job. Next thing we know she’s called into the office, sent home suspended and then told to come in where she was sacked for being drunk at work. Colleagues and customers alike had vouched that she wasn’t drunk, but the supervisor and his f*** buddy decided it would be funny to push her out of a job and said she was drunk. Because she was still in her probationary period she didn’t have any sort of investigation conducted on her otherwise the colleagues would have been able to back her up.
A few weeks later and the lass who the supervisor was shagging got the cold shoulder from the rest of us and decided to not bother coming back. A few months later the supervisor was caught stealing cigarettes amongst other stock and was sacked.
The sad thing was that this lady who did manage to start turning her life around was denied a 2nd chance, she tried to get employment again but had no real luck and in the end she turned back to the alcohol. Makes me sick thinking about how even though she made mistakes, she was utterly shafted.
I know this post isn’t strictly relevant to the Metro, but obviously the story from yesterday reminded me of it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 14 August 2018, 11:52:57 PM
Please mind the gap between Stifler's ears.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 16 August 2018, 06:40:28 PM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/investigation-car-driven-onto-metro-15038724

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Investigation into car driven onto Metro tracks dropped by safety inspectors
The Rail Accident Investigation Branch was informed of a car being driven onto the Metro tracks at Kingston Park level crossing

By Kathryn Riddell
16:36, 16 AUG 2018

An investigation into a car being driven onto the Metro tracks has been dropped by rail inspectors.

Trains were suspended between Newcastle Airport and Regent Centre on Monday evening after an 88-year-old woman drove her Toyota Aygo onto the Metro tracks from the Kingston Park level crossing.


The woman drove as far as the platform before she was safely rescued from her car.

Metro engineers had to check for any damage on the track and level crossing before moving the car and letting trains run again.

Trains were suspended for around 45 minutes and taxis were put on for passengers.

The incident was reported to the Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) but it has now said it will not be investigating any further.

A Nexus spokesperson said this was only the second ever time a car has driven onto the tracks.

They said: “In nearly 30 years of operations this is only the second instance of a vehicle turning off any of our level crossings and onto the track.

“Level crossing barriers would have no effect on this risk.

“Barriers are only lowered when a train is approaching the crossing: there were no trains in the Kingston Park area when the accident occurred, so the crossing would have been open to vehicular traffic whether it was provided with barriers or not.

“Studies suggest that almost all level crossing risk is caused by the behaviour of people using the crossing, and Monday night’s incident reinforces that view.

“The incident was reported to the RAIB who have subsequently told us that they do not intend to investigate the incident further.”

It is understood that police spoke to the elderly driver and the DVLA has also been informed.

In 2009, a driver who took a wrong turn onto the track came face-to-face with a Metro train.

The 40-year-old woman had driven on to the track at Fawdon in Newcastle and travelled hundreds of metres before her vehicle broke down as a train approached.

It took the car three hours to be recovered and off the tracks.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:17:40 AM
The Transport Minister will today announce the shortlisted suppliers for the new Metro fleet. Contracts will include fleet design and manufacture, 35 year maintenance and development of a new depot.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 08:30:38 AM
The Transport Minister will today announce the shortlisted suppliers for the new Metro fleet. Contracts will include fleet design and manufacture, 35 year maintenance and development of a new depot.
Hitachi who have a plant in Newton Aycliff are one of the 5 in the short list. As the ECML trains which the plant was built for will be finished soon it would be a huge local jobs boost if they won the Metro contract.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 11 October 2018, 07:17:06 AM
No metros between Heworth and Airport this morning
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 11 October 2018, 08:57:00 AM
Yep, was great fun today. There is literally no plan B. They were charging on the buses if you wanted to get on at Pelaw when the alternative was a queue half way around Heworth Metro station if you stayed on the metro to there. Faults occur, could just about accept it better if there was a contingency plan.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 11 October 2018, 10:53:24 AM
It was crazy this morning. Nowt much they can do with a power outage.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 16 November 2018, 09:54:09 AM
Are we at the point now where it's so regularly terrible that there's no point in posting about it? f***ing hour late today because of the Metro.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 20 November 2018, 08:06:14 PM
It's amazing how shambolic the organisation is when it goes tits up with public transport up here.  Someone in front of me had to pay £3.20 for the bus after metro was off earlier as buses weren't accepting metro tickets at the time.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 24 November 2018, 07:07:03 AM
Suspended systemwide all morning so far due to...no radio signals.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sima on Saturday 24 November 2018, 07:49:15 AM
Has this shambolic organisation been investigated for its poor service record?  It’s as if they can do what they want and spend as little as they want on the infrastructure.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 24 November 2018, 08:25:39 AM
Has this shambolic organisation been investigated for its poor service record?  It’s as if they can do what they want and spend as little as they want on the infrastructure.

I'm shocked Ashley hasn't bought them. Suppose the hundreds of billions price tag puts him off.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 24 November 2018, 10:02:40 AM
Nee metros at all today across the whole network
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 24 November 2018, 10:44:52 AM
They're also having issues with their website and can't update it,, so it says everything is fine.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Saturday 24 November 2018, 10:52:10 AM
They're also having issues with their website and can't update it,, so it says everything is fine.

Websites are notoriously difficult to update.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Adam^ on Saturday 24 November 2018, 07:00:24 PM
They're also having issues with their website and can't update it,, so it says everything is fine.

Websites are notoriously difficult to update.

IT guy can't update the website if he can't get the metro in to work...

(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Roll-Safe-Think-About-It.jpg)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 24 November 2018, 11:29:14 PM
They're also having issues with their website and can't update it,, so it says everything is fine.

Websites are notoriously difficult to update.

IT guy can't update the website if he can't get the metro in to work...

(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Roll-Safe-Think-About-It.jpg)
:lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 15 December 2018, 11:30:50 AM
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Saturday 15 December 2018, 11:31:47 AM
Hope it’s 12 degrees and clear when they’re filming, otherwise Metro ain’t gonna come off well.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Klaus on Saturday 15 December 2018, 11:47:25 AM
North Shields, Meadowell, Percy Main...etc
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Saturday 15 December 2018, 11:47:25 AM
:lol: We should have a contest to see who can feature on it the most. Bonus points if you can get 'hundreds of billions' aired.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Jill on Saturday 15 December 2018, 11:48:12 AM
It saddens me that I can complete the Sporcle metro map quiz easily. I rarely use the bloody thing, I'm a bus w*****.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 15 December 2018, 11:54:28 AM
It saddens me that I can complete the Sporcle metro map quiz easily. I rarely use the bloody thing, I'm a bus w*****.
I think most people are a Metro replacement bus w*****.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Saturday 15 December 2018, 12:12:17 PM
It saddens me that I can complete the Sporcle metro map quiz easily. I rarely use the bloody thing, I'm a bus w*****.
I think most people are a Metro replacement bus w*****.

I think it's a lot better than buses, and you can all get to f***. I'll whine on when it's 24 minutes waiting time or whatever, but people move home to get near a station. It's a godsend. Count your blessings.

:lol: A rare moment of clarity before I descend into the usual spiral of doom when we inevitably lose. Pip, pip!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 15 December 2018, 12:22:21 PM
It saddens me that I can complete the Sporcle metro map quiz easily. I rarely use the bloody thing, I'm a bus w*****.
I think most people are a Metro replacement bus w*****.

I think it's a lot better than buses, and you can all get to f***. I'll whine on when it's 24 minutes waiting time or whatever, but people move home to get near a station. It's a godsend. Count your blessings.

:lol: A rare moment of clarity before I descend into the usual spiral of doom when we inevitably lose. Pip, pip!
I was making a joke in reference to how it’s often having problems these days.
I’m with you though, it’s a massive asset to the area. I struggle to think how bad traffic would be without it. Even going to large sized town elsewhere in the country without a similar system will show you just how bad traffic can be.
Once the new trains arrive the focus should be on extending the system where possible.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 15 December 2018, 11:24:50 PM
Jonny Decker will be on I'm A Celebrity by 2020.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 16 December 2018, 09:34:34 AM
I'm sure it can't be as bad as Metro the Musical.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Foluwashola on Sunday 16 December 2018, 10:30:33 AM
I was genuinely in the process of digging that out :lol: Both the best & worst item Look North have ever had.

https://youtu.be/V80Isj9JK1s

Hope ITV have been made aware that MC Bouncin has a ready made theme tune for their programme.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BottledDog on Sunday 16 December 2018, 10:59:29 AM
Well, that's not going to be easily forgotten.  :kasper:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TheHoob on Sunday 16 December 2018, 01:12:39 PM
Cheers for flagging this up lads, that’s everyone’s stocking fillers sorted.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tyne-Wear-Metro-The-Musical/dp/B00YCEBCQ6
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 8 January 2019, 03:25:51 PM
?s=19

Anyone got any fun metro stories? Should get that bloke who got locked in a station
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 8 January 2019, 03:28:11 PM
Joe from Shields? :lol: The best video on YouTube, that. I'm gonna tweet them.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 8 January 2019, 03:29:37 PM
Aye him, hoy it on here too haven't seen it for ages
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 8 January 2019, 03:34:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT6ncfQzrYg
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 8 January 2019, 03:57:12 PM
As good as I remember
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bowie on Tuesday 8 January 2019, 04:20:59 PM
I'm laughing even at the title, man. :lol: FFS. Gonna have to watch it again in a bit.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 8 January 2019, 04:33:38 PM
I love the comment from his nephew saying that he shouldn't be walking along the lines because he's only got one leg. :lol: Even if he's made it all up it's still funny.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 24 January 2019, 03:43:31 PM
Nee metros between monument and heworth
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 24 January 2019, 04:25:57 PM
f***ing horrific today. Some poor sod was ill at Monkseaton so was stuck there for 20 mins for an ambulance. Then cos of the disruption kept stopping. Got to Longbenton and of course the platform was rammed with schoolkids who all piled on and screamed at each other nonstop. Kept stopping at stations, between stations, couldn't hear the driver announcements because of these f***ing SCREAMING KIDS. Then eventually they shut up long enough to hear the service was suspended but started screaming "It's suspended!" before hearing "... Between Monument and Heworth". So they all piled off onto the platform until we were about to get going again, then they heard the doors closing and all tried to pile back on, forcing the doors open so it couldn't move again. Taken me about two hours to get to work.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 24 January 2019, 05:13:19 PM
My lass has just sent me a photo with the board saying 'Whitley Bay 99mins' :lol:

I guess I'm going to the gym then.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: geordiemonster on Thursday 24 January 2019, 05:46:54 PM
My lass has just sent me a photo with the board saying 'Whitley Bay 99mins' :lol:

I guess I'm going to the gym then.

I had one that said 25 minutes to the coast at South Gosforth and it came in 5...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 24 January 2019, 05:58:59 PM
My lass has just sent me a photo with the board saying 'Whitley Bay 99mins' :lol:

I guess I'm going to the gym then.

99 metro minutes surely equates to about four days in reality.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 24 January 2019, 06:06:24 PM
My lass has just sent me a photo with the board saying 'Whitley Bay 99mins' :lol:

I guess I'm going to the gym then.

99 metro minutes surely equates to about four days in reality.

Always love when it says a train is due and it's like 2-3 mins away.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 24 January 2019, 06:11:03 PM
My lass has just sent me a photo with the board saying 'Whitley Bay 99mins' :lol:

I guess I'm going to the gym then.

99 metro minutes surely equates to about four days in reality.

The opposite is usually true like. :lol: While a New York Minute is 1 second, a Metro Minute is around 3-5 minutes in my experience.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: tgarve on Monday 28 January 2019, 02:28:58 PM
My lass has just sent me a photo with the board saying 'Whitley Bay 99mins' :lol:

I guess I'm going to the gym then.

99 metro minutes surely equates to about four days in reality.

The opposite is usually true like. :lol: While a New York Minute is 1 second, a Metro Minute is around 3-5 minutes in my experience.

So not the opposite at all then?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 28 January 2019, 02:33:58 PM
TIL that Pilko wrote 'days' and not 'minutes'
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 9 March 2019, 02:53:03 PM
Hopeless

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 9 March 2019, 03:00:49 PM
Every.f***ing.day

They're the best advert in the world for cars.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 9 March 2019, 07:56:59 PM
Could be worse, could be on strike.  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: maybe_next_year on Saturday 9 March 2019, 08:46:43 PM
Hopeless


They gave people 27 minutes notice of this? :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 9 March 2019, 11:07:16 PM
Yet people who apply to become a driver get told to f*** off.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ozzrahog on Saturday 9 March 2019, 11:22:37 PM
The metro is now in public ownership. Nice to have a preview of corbyn's Britain
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Sunday 10 March 2019, 07:27:01 AM
The metro is now in public ownership. Nice to have a preview of corbyn's Britain

:lol:

Aye it's got nothing to do with the company running it.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 10 March 2019, 10:08:33 AM
...and it's lead to it finally being upgraded in 2021 too. Weird point to make.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 10 March 2019, 11:32:16 AM
Lack of drivers available is just incompetent management.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 10 March 2019, 12:56:22 PM
Lack of drivers available is just incompetent management.
This, however the wider range of problems is all down to the lack of funding for the best part of 40 years. They basically built it, and let it rot.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 10 March 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Lack of drivers available is just incompetent management.
This, however the wider range of problems is all down to the lack of funding for the best part of 40 years. They basically built it, and let it rot.

Of course, their is no excuse for lack of drivers but it's a system that needs badly upgrading.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Rich on Sunday 10 March 2019, 09:26:22 PM
But how much would that cost man, neesy?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 10 March 2019, 09:41:46 PM
But how much would that cost man, neesy?

Hmm, top of my head I would say 100's of billions.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 26 March 2019, 09:01:16 PM
Local councillors and MP’s are putting pressure on Nexus to choose Hitachi as the preferred bidder for building the new trains on the grounds that they have a plant in the North East.
The Chronicle comments are hilarious and full of ‘The EU won’t allow it to be them’ etc.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Wednesday 27 March 2019, 07:43:06 AM
Bring back the old trams, man.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 29 April 2019, 02:17:06 PM
Knackered again

Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 29 April 2019, 03:09:36 PM
I am aghast
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 29 April 2019, 04:29:09 PM
Ended up taking a 15 quid Uber to work, 900 bus was only going as far as Four Lane Ends, and the Metro wasn't working form there onwards   :hmm:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 29 April 2019, 07:38:22 PM
I had to get the bus back to Whitley. It was ok until it decided to do a tour of North Shields, Tynemouth and a random tour of the Broadway.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Monday 29 April 2019, 07:39:46 PM
 :lol: And yet they're advertising for more Metro drivers, I can only assume it's to give piggybacks.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Monday 29 April 2019, 08:15:55 PM
As a former employee of Nexus (took early retirement), there has been a total change in how the Metro is operated ever since DB were giving the contract to operate the trains. Used to be a brilliant company to work for but a lot of good people have left in recent years. Still a lot of good people there but the whole culture has changed in recent years.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Monday 29 April 2019, 08:33:30 PM
As a former employee of Nexus (took early retirement), there has been a total change in how the Metro is operated ever since DB were giving the contract to operate the trains. Used to be a brilliant company to work for but a lot of good people have left in recent years. Still a lot of good people there but the whole culture has changed in recent years.


Could you please explain what sort of work you were doing this day please? As the disruption caused me to be extremely late for work.

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Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: OCK on Monday 29 April 2019, 08:34:37 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Monday 29 April 2019, 08:34:58 PM
As a former employee of Nexus (took early retirement), there has been a total change in how the Metro is operated ever since DB were giving the contract to operate the trains. Used to be a brilliant company to work for but a lot of good people have left in recent years. Still a lot of good people there but the whole culture has changed in recent years.


Could you please explain what sort of work you were doing this day please? As the disruption caused me to be extremely late for work.

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 :D :D On the engineering side, sadly I've gone so not to blame for today  O0
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 29 April 2019, 09:16:19 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Monday 29 April 2019, 11:07:10 PM
:lol: Some lad was saying that they spent all weekend putting up new cables which immediately fell down when used. Plausible, at least. I think they're going to rebuild that bridge between Longbenton and South Gosforth in the summer too, so that'll be extra fun. FFS. Be quicker to walk.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 12:02:51 AM
:lol: Some lad was saying that they spent all weekend putting up new cables which immediately fell down when used. Plausible, at least. I think they're going to rebuild that bridge between Longbenton and South Gosforth in the summer too, so that'll be extra fun. FFS. Be quicker to walk.

Be gobsmacked by that tbh. I presume you mean overhead line wire, this is replaced either due to maintenance or a fault. In over 30 year I’ve never known one occasion when this has occurred within that short period of time after being‘put up. Can’t swear to it as I don’t work there anymore, but as I said it’s never happened in this way in all my years of experience.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 06:54:36 AM
:lol: Some lad was saying that they spent all weekend putting up new cables which immediately fell down when used. Plausible, at least. I think they're going to rebuild that bridge between Longbenton and South Gosforth in the summer too, so that'll be extra fun. FFS. Be quicker to walk.

Be gobsmacked by that tbh. I presume you mean overhead line wire, this is replaced either due to maintenance or a fault. In over 30 year I’ve never known one occasion when this has occurred within that short period of time after being‘put up. Can’t swear to it as I don’t work there anymore, but as I said it’s never happened in this way in all my years of experience.

aye but some lad said it tho...so there's that
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 07:30:23 AM
They replaced that bridge just a year or two ago?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 08:04:04 AM
Still knackered today.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 09:05:00 AM
They replaced that bridge just a year or two ago?

Yeah they did
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:39:01 AM
Just been kicked off one metro for an electrical fault at South Gosforth, told there's one 5 minutes behind. Wait it for it, all got on that one, sat there for another 5 minutes, told there's a fault with the windshield on this one and we all have to get off again.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Thursday 9 May 2019, 12:33:23 PM
Just been kicked off one metro for an electrical fault at South Gosforth, told there's one 5 minutes behind. Wait it for it, all got on that one, sat there for another 5 minutes, told there's a fault with the windshield on this one and we all have to get off again.

The fleet is on it's last legs that's for sure, should have been replaced 10 year ago. It will continue to get worse until the new fleet is introduced.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Thursday 9 May 2019, 12:44:01 PM
It's depressing, given how so many of us rely on it day in day out.

Just found this as well - https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2019-03-21a.1214.3. £650 odd million being invested in the system and the new fleet.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 9 May 2019, 01:05:34 PM
When the council introduce the £12.50 a day vehicle congestion charge for Newcastle the amount of people wanting to use the Metro will go through the roof. The trains are already standing room only (if you can get on at all) during the busy times. That's without taking their reliability or frequency into account.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:50:48 PM
Just been kicked off one metro for an electrical fault at South Gosforth, told there's one 5 minutes behind. Wait it for it, all got on that one, sat there for another 5 minutes, told there's a fault with the windshield on this one and we all have to get off again.

My train back from work has been withdrawn as well, that's three in the space of two journeys.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 13 May 2019, 03:32:15 PM
And again :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 14 May 2019, 12:05:15 PM
 :lol:

There were delays yesterday so I decided to go the long way round back to the coast via Wallsend and shields.  It was nice evening so it was a pleasant journey home.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 02:34:03 AM
Likely to be f***ed between Tynemouth and Benton tomorrow morning
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 10:31:02 AM
I got in no problem from Monkseaton this morning, an empty train waiting.  :smug:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: newsted on Wednesday 6 November 2019, 11:22:30 PM
Anyway, this morning, complete electrical failure in carriage 2, no doors working, emergency door protocol, pull the lever and shove the RIGHT door like billio, everyone clamber through that, try to cram on the next packed train, late for work, super.

This evening, light drizzle, low rail adhesion, train late, then later and later, then, and someone will have to explain this to me, so late that it was withdrawn from service so everyone off and try to pack on the next already-packed, even later train. How does that work?

10 minutes at Haymarket because people wouldn't stand back when they couldn't cram on so they had to send a guy to get a flag so he could signal the driver when the doors were clear :lol: It's like too Victorian even for me. f***ing people :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ToonTastic on Thursday 7 November 2019, 12:37:18 PM
Im guessing withdrawing the train is to help fake the stats. If it's already crazy late it'll show as late for every station. If they withdraw it, it probably then doesn't count as being late at the next stations as it's withdrawn and the next train they'll hope will be on time.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Thursday 7 November 2019, 01:10:18 PM
Im guessing withdrawing the train is to help fake the stats. If it's already crazy late it'll show as late for every station. If they withdraw it, it probably then doesn't count as being late at the next stations as it's withdrawn and the next train they'll hope will be on time.

 :lol: Nope every train cancelled and every train delayed is counted in the stats as it's all done via signals sent from track circuits located across the system - no stats are faked. This information is then calculated against the scheduled timetable and anything operating over 3 minutes is included. The only reason the train was taken out of service would have been to get everything back to timetable. As one train being delayed can have a knock on effect to other trains (especially in the central corridor - South Gosforth through to Pelaw).

Everyone laughs about low rail adhesion (commonly known as wheelslip) but it does have a big impact. Special trains are operated to jet spray the rail and to apply a 'railway industry used' gel to assist with this. Even with these applied there are still problems.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 8 November 2019, 02:57:56 AM
Do other metro systems have as many problems with low rail adhesion? I mean, just a google of 'low rail adhesion' and couple of the first results are to do with the T&W metro...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 8 November 2019, 05:08:39 AM
Do other metro systems have as many problems with low rail adhesion? I mean, just a google of 'low rail adhesion' and couple of the first results are to do with the T&W metro...

Searching Twitter, Tyne & Wear Metro and Iarnród Éireann are the only two companies to say this over the last two days.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 8 November 2019, 08:38:23 AM
Do other metro systems have as many problems with low rail adhesion? I mean, just a google of 'low rail adhesion' and couple of the first results are to do with the T&W metro...

It's just a twattish way of saying leaves on the line.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 November 2019, 08:51:24 AM
Tbf i've felt the metro wheel spin from time to time.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 8 November 2019, 09:38:45 AM
Do other metro systems have as many problems with low rail adhesion? I mean, just a google of 'low rail adhesion' and couple of the first results are to do with the T&W metro...
It is only a problem with the leaves of some trees, most of which are native to Northern Europe and the UK.
North Tyneside council once asked the Metro to cut down one of the trees that was on their land and caused the problem for an unrelated matter. Nexus who own and manage the Metro refused. A few years later Nexus asked residents who had similar trees in their garden and near Metro lines to cut down their trees. Those residents refused and I think Nexus kicked up a fuss via the Chronicle about it.
Some rail companies around the world who have similar problems have got around it by having a device that releases sand, blasts water or air etc. Nexus’s solution is basically to do nothing and blame someone else for a problem that they largely contribute too.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Friday 8 November 2019, 09:46:25 AM
Do other metro systems have as many problems with low rail adhesion? I mean, just a google of 'low rail adhesion' and couple of the first results are to do with the T&W metro...
It is only a problem with the leaves of some trees, most of which are native to Northern Europe and the UK.
North Tyneside council once asked the Metro to cut down one of the trees that was on their land and caused the problem for an unrelated matter. Nexus who own and manage the Metro refused. A few years later Nexus asked residents who had similar trees in their garden and near Metro lines to cut down their trees. Those residents refused and I think Nexus kicked up a fuss via the Chronicle about it.
Some rail companies around the world who have similar problems have got around it by having a device that releases sand, blasts water or air etc. Nexus’s solution is basically to do nothing and blame someone else for a problem that they largely contribute too.

You're talking absolute bollocks there mind.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 8 November 2019, 11:38:59 AM
Do other metro systems have as many problems with low rail adhesion? I mean, just a google of 'low rail adhesion' and couple of the first results are to do with the T&W metro...
It is only a problem with the leaves of some trees, most of which are native to Northern Europe and the UK.
North Tyneside council once asked the Metro to cut down one of the trees that was on their land and caused the problem for an unrelated matter. Nexus who own and manage the Metro refused. A few years later Nexus asked residents who had similar trees in their garden and near Metro lines to cut down their trees. Those residents refused and I think Nexus kicked up a fuss via the Chronicle about it.
Some rail companies around the world who have similar problems have got around it by having a device that releases sand, blasts water or air etc. Nexus’s solution is basically to do nothing and blame someone else for a problem that they largely contribute too.

You're talking absolute bollocks there mind.
Even on the spec sheets for the new trains they have not listed any sort of equipment to prevent this issue from being installed.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Friday 8 November 2019, 12:24:30 PM
Do other metro systems have as many problems with low rail adhesion? I mean, just a google of 'low rail adhesion' and couple of the first results are to do with the T&W metro...
It is only a problem with the leaves of some trees, most of which are native to Northern Europe and the UK.
North Tyneside council once asked the Metro to cut down one of the trees that was on their land and caused the problem for an unrelated matter. Nexus who own and manage the Metro refused. A few years later Nexus asked residents who had similar trees in their garden and near Metro lines to cut down their trees. Those residents refused and I think Nexus kicked up a fuss via the Chronicle about it.
Some rail companies around the world who have similar problems have got around it by having a device that releases sand, blasts water or air etc. Nexus’s solution is basically to do nothing and blame someone else for a problem that they largely contribute too.

You're talking absolute bollocks there mind.
Even on the spec sheets for the new trains they have not listed any sort of equipment to prevent this issue from being installed.

They don't need to, the equipment is fitted onto Metrocars and also RRVs/Locos are operated during engineering hours within the known worst areas. Every single day Rail Head Treatment Trains are operated throughout the leaf fall season, this includes sandite being applied to the track and the rails are jet washed every single day. You honestly don't have a clue about what has been done, is being done and the plans for the future.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ToonTastic on Friday 8 November 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Im guessing withdrawing the train is to help fake the stats. If it's already crazy late it'll show as late for every station. If they withdraw it, it probably then doesn't count as being late at the next stations as it's withdrawn and the next train they'll hope will be on time.

 :lol: Nope every train cancelled and every train delayed is counted in the stats as it's all done via signals sent from track circuits located across the system - no stats are faked.

So it begs the question again, why pull the train. There is no logical reason.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 8 November 2019, 01:24:26 PM
I heard they like to do it for the craic. Be mint if they let a train pull in to a station and let the passengers vote on whether or not the fault was bad enough to pull it from service.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Friday 8 November 2019, 01:25:48 PM
Im guessing withdrawing the train is to help fake the stats. If it's already crazy late it'll show as late for every station. If they withdraw it, it probably then doesn't count as being late at the next stations as it's withdrawn and the next train they'll hope will be on time.

 :lol: Nope every train cancelled and every train delayed is counted in the stats as it's all done via signals sent from track circuits located across the system - no stats are faked.

So it begs the question again, why pull the train. There is no logical reason.

It's about the operation of a customer service, if a train is operating at a severe delay then it impacts on a whole amount of things. Cut off points for running on Network Rail infrastructure, Traindriver relief points, and a back up of trains which results in further problems as only a set number of trains can operate in an overhead line section at any given time. There are many logical reasons why there is a need to do this.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: TBG on Friday 29 November 2019, 04:21:54 PM
Some drivers are going on strike next week so expect an even shitter service
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 29 November 2019, 04:25:22 PM
Some drivers are going on strike next week so expect an even shitter service

 :rolleyes: Mint
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Pilko on Friday 29 November 2019, 05:27:33 PM
Class this. 22 minutes for a Metro at a peak time because nobody can be arsed to drive them.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Tyne81 on Friday 29 November 2019, 07:52:13 PM
Class this. 22 minutes for a Metro at a peak time because nobody can be arsed to drive them.

It is cold tbf.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 30 November 2019, 12:27:16 AM
The drivers have turned down £47k.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 30 November 2019, 02:36:30 AM
Metro drivers are on £47k a year?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 1 December 2019, 01:51:11 PM
Metro drivers are on £47k a year?
£35k. They have turned down a contract which would give them £47k but would mean they can’t keep refusing to work weekends and public holidays (Christmas day excluded).
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 1 December 2019, 04:21:54 PM
Might just sack this graphic design career off and become a metro driver.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BlueStar on Sunday 1 December 2019, 05:32:43 PM
Might just sack this graphic design career off and become a metro driver.

You've got to be a really good driver though to keep the wheels on those narrow tracks.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Monday 2 December 2019, 03:02:31 AM
47K to drive the Metro? Surely not?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Bizza on Monday 2 December 2019, 07:56:25 AM
I'll drive a metro for 47k, where do I sign up?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Sima on Monday 2 December 2019, 07:57:40 AM
I'll drive a metro for 47k, where do I sign up?

Aye, same.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Turnbull2000 on Monday 2 December 2019, 12:07:26 PM
47K to drive the Metro? Surely not?

Actually closer to 60k when you include a pension scheme worth around 25% of salary.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Monday 2 December 2019, 12:35:22 PM
They're attempting to get equivalent pay to other Traindrivers throughout the UK. One of the reasons there is a shortage of drivers is due to quite a large number leaving to join other rail operators for better pay.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 2 December 2019, 01:14:37 PM
Jesus man  :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Monday 2 December 2019, 10:31:26 PM
Jesus man  :lol:

Mind I can see why you might laugh when comparing to other North East wages, as it is a massive increase on the average regional wage. To be fair though when you look on a National average of what a Traindriver is paid, then the actual rise they are requesting has some substance. People could argue that is what they signed up for when they joined up, but the terms and conditions have changed a fair bit and will change again with the introduction of the new fleet. Currently your average Metro Traindriver is looking to move on within a couple of year to another TOC for much higher wages.

You would be surprised how much turnover there has been over the last five year especially. There is a big cost with training a new driver over roughly a 12 week period, having to do this at very frequent levels due to high staff turnover is not cost effective. There is also a requirement to have a stable and consolidated staffing establishment in place to ensure that there is full cover for the operation of the service, specifically with the introduction of the new fleet in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 03:03:04 AM
Train drivers shouldn't be on £50k a year, man, that's mental :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 04:23:36 AM
f*** it. Stick them on minimum wage and force them to take second jobs. Might be lucky and crash a train full of tory c***s.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 04:52:20 AM
I’m sure we’ve had this conversation before.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 05:06:25 AM
I’m sure we’ve had this conversation before.

Which one? "Do tories use the metro?"
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 10:47:27 AM
Jesus man  :lol:

Mind I can see why you might laugh when comparing to other North East wages, as it is a massive increase on the average regional wage. To be fair though when you look on a National average of what a Traindriver is paid, then the actual rise they are requesting has some substance. People could argue that is what they signed up for when they joined up, but the terms and conditions have changed a fair bit and will change again with the introduction of the new fleet. Currently your average Metro Traindriver is looking to move on within a couple of year to another TOC for much higher wages.

You would be surprised how much turnover there has been over the last five year especially. There is a big cost with training a new driver over roughly a 12 week period, having to do this at very frequent levels due to high staff turnover is not cost effective. There is also a requirement to have a stable and consolidated staffing establishment in place to ensure that there is full cover for the operation of the service, specifically with the introduction of the new fleet in the not too distant future.

I understand the reasons for them asking for that, its just its a whopping lift to get them to that salary.  Especially when there seems to be constant emergency and planned maintenance required on the system.   If they are given this upscale in salary will there be less investment into the system or would the cost be pushed to the commuter?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 10:58:07 AM
Jesus man  :lol:

Mind I can see why you might laugh when comparing to other North East wages, as it is a massive increase on the average regional wage. To be fair though when you look on a National average of what a Traindriver is paid, then the actual rise they are requesting has some substance. People could argue that is what they signed up for when they joined up, but the terms and conditions have changed a fair bit and will change again with the introduction of the new fleet. Currently your average Metro Traindriver is looking to move on within a couple of year to another TOC for much higher wages.

You would be surprised how much turnover there has been over the last five year especially. There is a big cost with training a new driver over roughly a 12 week period, having to do this at very frequent levels due to high staff turnover is not cost effective. There is also a requirement to have a stable and consolidated staffing establishment in place to ensure that there is full cover for the operation of the service, specifically with the introduction of the new fleet in the not too distant future.

I understand the reasons for them asking for that, its just its a whopping lift to get them to that salary.  Especially when there seems to be constant emergency and planned maintenance required on the system.   If they are given this upscale in salary will there be less investment into the system or would the cost be pushed to the commuter?

I'd love to see what less investment in the metro looks like.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 11:07:21 AM
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Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 11:07:24 AM
Jesus man  :lol:

Mind I can see why you might laugh when comparing to other North East wages, as it is a massive increase on the average regional wage. To be fair though when you look on a National average of what a Traindriver is paid, then the actual rise they are requesting has some substance. People could argue that is what they signed up for when they joined up, but the terms and conditions have changed a fair bit and will change again with the introduction of the new fleet. Currently your average Metro Traindriver is looking to move on within a couple of year to another TOC for much higher wages.

You would be surprised how much turnover there has been over the last five year especially. There is a big cost with training a new driver over roughly a 12 week period, having to do this at very frequent levels due to high staff turnover is not cost effective. There is also a requirement to have a stable and consolidated staffing establishment in place to ensure that there is full cover for the operation of the service, specifically with the introduction of the new fleet in the not too distant future.

I understand the reasons for them asking for that, its just its a whopping lift to get them to that salary.  Especially when there seems to be constant emergency and planned maintenance required on the system.   If they are given this upscale in salary will there be less investment into the system or would the cost be pushed to the commuter?

Good question the first point concerning investment is that no it wouldn’t effect that as the government has already agreed increased investment to upgrading the system both in terms of the infrastructure (already happening) and the fleet (upcoming). The second point I can’t say positively no, but I would be surprised if fees would be increased on the back of increased payments to a section of staff. Remember the Metro funding comes from local government and I just don’t think they would allow that to happen.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 01:17:32 PM
At some point driver less trains will be considered which will remove the cost of a driver altogether.  :undecided:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 01:27:03 PM
At some point driver less trains will be considered which will remove the cost of a driver altogether.  :undecided:

Already do it on the DLR, a number of tube lines can switch it on as well.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 01:29:58 PM
At some point driver less trains will be considered which will remove the cost of a driver altogether.  :undecided:

Years off, if at all. The current (driver operated trains) have lasted 40 years and I would imagine that the new (again driver operated trains) would have a similar lifeline. Unless there was radical changes to UK policy regarding the operation of trains, then I can't see this changing much either.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: BottledDog on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 02:50:02 PM
At some point driver less trains will be considered which will remove the cost of a driver altogether.  :undecided:

Years off, if at all. The current (driver operated trains) have lasted 40 years and I would imagine that the new (again driver operated trains) would have a similar lifeline. Unless there was radical changes to UK policy regarding the operation of trains, then I can't see this changing much either.

Not totally sure why though. As pointed out by neesyoneoneone, the DLR has been driver less since 1987.
Guessing Mainlines, where there are some complex crossovers into other lines might be tricky to upgrade, but surely the Metro was, and is, ripe for it?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 04:02:52 PM
At some point driver less trains will be considered which will remove the cost of a driver altogether.  :undecided:

Years off, if at all. The current (driver operated trains) have lasted 40 years and I would imagine that the new (again driver operated trains) would have a similar lifeline. Unless there was radical changes to UK policy regarding the operation of trains, then I can't see this changing much either.

Not totally sure why though. As pointed out by neesyoneoneone, the DLR has been driver less since 1987.
Guessing Mainlines, where there are some complex crossovers into other lines might be tricky to upgrade, but surely the Metro was, and is, ripe for it?

You just answered your own point as Nexus from Pelaw operates onto Network Rail infrastructure and runs in tandem with mainline TOCs.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: ikri on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 04:23:52 PM
Train drivers shouldn't be on £50k a year, man, that's mental :lol:

Check sometime just how many people die on metro/train lines.  It's pretty high.  I've been told previously that the average train driver kills one person per year.

50k might sound like a lot, but that's basically hazard pay.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 05:03:28 PM
Train drivers shouldn't be on £50k a year, man, that's mental :lol:

Check sometime just how many people die on metro/train lines.  It's pretty high.  I've been told previously that the average train driver kills one person per year.

50k might sound like a lot, but that's basically hazard pay.

You’re not kidding either and as someone who has been involved in the removal of the bodies it is a harrowing experience. Metro drivers also work longer shifts and have to deal with passengers (at times threatening) compared to mainline TOCs.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:33:05 PM
What do people think someone who is responsible for transporting hundreds of people safely should be paid?

£50K a year doesn't sound that much to me considering the shifts they work and the crappy trains they have to drive. Dealing with certain members of the public isn't fun either.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:35:16 PM
Wouldn't imagine train drivers have much to do with the public.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:37:49 PM
Anyone know when this is likely to be resolved? Proper nightmare coming back from work earlier this evening like, feels s**** when the journey home significantly eats into the evening.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:39:06 PM
Wouldn't imagine train drivers have much to do with the public.

Metro ones do other TOCs no they don’t
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:42:07 PM
Wouldn't imagine train drivers have much to do with the public.

When a passenger is unwell and an ambulance is called, the train waits at the station until the medics arrive. Have you never been on a Metro when a charver has been causing bother? The driver calls the police. I've read about charvers attacking the driver compartment. Also the scum who throw stones, etc at the trains. There'll be more public interactions than you think (and the driver would want).
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:53:51 PM
Wouldn't imagine train drivers have much to do with the public.

When a passenger is unwell and an ambulance is called, the train waits at the station until the medics arrive. Have you never been on a Metro when a charver has been causing bother? The driver calls the police. I've read about charvers attacking the driver compartment. Also the scum who throw stones, etc at the trains. There'll be more public interactions than you think (and the driver would want).

Umpteen more also including dealing with passengers when faults occur e.g. door fault, the driver has to leave the cab, wade through passengers to check the door and then isolate the door if there is a fault, whilst having passengers then asking what’s going on (sometimes abusively)
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 11:55:22 PM
Ah fair enough didn't know that.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 04:01:17 AM
Walk down a train, lock a door and talk to people. 50k please. :lol:

People in much harder jobs get much less
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 04:31:28 AM
Walk down a train, lock a door and talk to people. 50k please. :lol:

People in much harder jobs get much less

And people in much easier jobs get far more...
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 10:39:08 AM
Pay soldiers and nurses Metro driver wages!
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 11:08:00 AM
Pay soldiers and nurses Metro driver wages!

 :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 5 December 2019, 06:04:37 AM
I’m sure I saw on Facebook someone saying should a Metro driver earn as much as a nurse actually. :lol:
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 5 December 2019, 08:55:28 AM
I’m sure I saw on Facebook someone saying should a Metro driver earn as much as a nurse actually. :lol:

Nurse at the top of his or her pay grade or a young'un working their way up the ladder?
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 5 December 2019, 02:54:50 PM
Everybody wants more.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: madras on Thursday 5 December 2019, 04:34:28 PM
At some point driver less trains will be considered which will remove the cost of a driver altogether.  :undecided:

Years off, if at all. The current (driver operated trains) have lasted 40 years and I would imagine that the new (again driver operated trains) would have a similar lifeline. Unless there was radical changes to UK policy regarding the operation of trains, then I can't see this changing much either.

Not totally sure why though. As pointed out by neesyoneoneone, the DLR has been driver less since 1987.
Guessing Mainlines, where there are some complex crossovers into other lines might be tricky to upgrade, but surely the Metro was, and is, ripe for it?

More that they are basically sealed from things on the tracks, unlike most of the rail network.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: godzilla on Thursday 5 December 2019, 07:20:47 PM
At some point driver less trains will be considered which will remove the cost of a driver altogether.  :undecided:

Years off, if at all. The current (driver operated trains) have lasted 40 years and I would imagine that the new (again driver operated trains) would have a similar lifeline. Unless there was radical changes to UK policy regarding the operation of trains, then I can't see this changing much either.

Not totally sure why though. As pointed out by neesyoneoneone, the DLR has been driver less since 1987.
Guessing Mainlines, where there are some complex crossovers into other lines might be tricky to upgrade, but surely the Metro was, and is, ripe for it?

More that they are basically sealed from things on the tracks, unlike most of the rail network.

I could virtually write a book on the reasons why driver(less) trains would be an improbability on the Metro system
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 5 December 2019, 08:04:52 PM
Please don't though.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: Greg on Thursday 5 December 2019, 11:20:21 PM
DLR more often that not has a driver during peak times.
Title: Re: The Metro - Upgrades, issues, hundreds of billions
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 5 December 2019, 11:38:37 PM
DLR more often that not has a driver during peak times.

They do, only for safety purposes with the doors closing as they are full.