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General => Chat => Topic started by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 8 December 2010, 09:17:11 PM
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Seems to be a good bunch of people here who like Space. I like it too, have since I was young. At one point, like most, I wanted to be an Astronaught, think it was just after I found out that I couldn't be an FBI Agent, or least not one that worked on the X-Files (thanks Mrs. Gordon for ruining a Child's dream). Anyway...
What a week its been!
SpaceX, the First Commercial Re-entry Spacecraft launched today and splashed down as planned! http://www.spacex.com/updates.php
And strangely, there seems to be some giant Dark Object outside the solar system throwing things into our solar system! Daily Mail ran the story, so imagine they're claiming its an illegal immigrant planet trying to sneak into our garden to leach of the 'system'. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1336540/Massive-dark-object-lurking-edge-solar-hurling-comets-Earth.html
Other people suggest its the mysterious Nibiru planet, the planet that's due to kill us all off in 2012. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision
Personally, I'm excited that something is out there, and possibly always been out there, causing so much disruption to the balance of the solar system and they're only just NOW becoming aware of it! Really wish we'd explore space more.
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Space is awesome.
Well, that's all I've got.
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Mike, that was s***
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They never went to the Moon.
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Mike, that was s***
Space is canny, like.
I love space, me.
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Ashley is a c***, Pardew out.
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I like hats.
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Ashley is a c***, Pardew out.
God, is Pardew in?
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Ashley is a c***, Pardew out.
God, is Pardew in?
Tomorrow, but I've told you I don't like being called that. 'Dave' will do.
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Pie and mash for me tonight, like.
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Spaceman I always wanted you go to into space man.
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Ashley is a c***, Pardew out.
God, is Pardew in?
Tomorrow, but I've told you I don't like being called that. 'Dave' will do.
Come on, Vishnu. No need for that!
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http://www.wikisky.org/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M
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Carl Sagan, man, legend! The Symphony of Science vids should be done in high quality and released! Music and science! :smitten:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc&feature=&p=F4688EB54F506C67&index=0&playnext=1
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f***ing love Cosmos, man.
Nowadays I'll watch anything Neil deGrasse Tyson is involved with.
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They never went to the Moon.
http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm
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BBC always seem to manage to pull off quality programs about space, think I'll have to acquire some tomorrow.
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put pubs in space and i'll be more interested.
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Bitchtits.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djBKQNVj5Cc
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Seems to be a good bunch of people here who like Space. I like it too, have since I was young. At one point, like most, I wanted to be an Astronaught, think it was just after I found out that I couldn't be an FBI Agent, or least not one that worked on the X-Files (thanks Mrs. Gordon for ruining a Child's dream). Anyway...
What a week its been!
SpaceX, the First Commercial Re-entry Spacecraft launched today and splashed down as planned! http://www.spacex.com/updates.php
And strangely, there seems to be some giant Dark Object outside the solar system throwing things into our solar system! Daily Mail ran the story, so imagine they're claiming its an illegal immigrant planet trying to sneak into our garden to leach of the 'system'. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1336540/Massive-dark-object-lurking-edge-solar-hurling-comets-Earth.html
Other people suggest its the mysterious Nibiru planet, the planet that's due to kill us all off in 2012. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision
Personally, I'm excited that something is out there, and possibly always been out there, causing so much disruption to the balance of the solar system and they're only just NOW becoming aware of it! Really wish we'd explore space more.
If you're a podcast listener, the Naked Scientists do a pretty good space podcast called "Naked Astronomy".
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Mike, that was s***
Space is canny, like.
I love space, me.
:lol:
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Love space-based discussion. There are so many questions. The most pertinent one for me is: are we alone? We can't be, man!
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Nah, we can't be alone, man. It's too big.
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Nah, we can't be alone, man. It's too big.
I'm in full agreement with that Mike, but I fear the chances of any intelligent being(s) reaching our planet and returning home with a scrapbook/invasion documentation before pension books are posted, to be somewhat slim. Slimmer in fact than me. And I would say that's impossible!!
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Probably. I mean, we're really f***ing small. Probably wouldn't be able to find us if you weren't looking for us.
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As disappointing as that NASA press conference was, the news astronomically improves the chances of there being other life. There has to be.
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As if that wasn't already the case though.
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What's frustrating is that it probably makes it even harder to find life, or traces of life. I'm surprised NASA were as narrow-minded to think extra-terrestrials would comply to Earth's perameters. The universe is colossal, we don't know what the hell's out there.
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What's frustrating is that it probably makes it even harder to find life, or traces of life. I'm surprised NASA were as narrow-minded to think extra-terrestrials would comply to Earth's perameters. The universe is colossal, we don't know what the hell's out there.
Yes and no. There's a pretty good understanding out there of chemistry, which helps confine the forms that life can take. There's a good reason why astrobiologists look for signs of water, for example, as well as reasons they look for signs of carbon.
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http://io9.com/5713105/watch-an-entire-hemisphere-of-the-sun-explode
In this ultraviolet light video taken by NASA, you can watch a phenomenon that scientists didn't believe could exist until a few months ago. An entire hemisphere of the sun explodes, one region igniting another. What does this discovery mean?
It turns out that the sun doesn't just spurt out gouts of gas in isolated spots. In fact, our star's magnetic field brings many regions of Sol's surface into direct relationships with each other, so areas separated by millions of miles can literally spark each other up. The results are called "sympathetic flares."
Holy s***!
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I read in 'The God Delusion' that there are approximately a billion billion planets in the universe (best estimate, I guess). That means that even if life is as incredibly rare that it only occurs on 1 in every 1 billion planets, there are still a billion planets with life out there. That was pretty mindblowing for me to think about.
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I read in 'The God Delusion' that there are approximately a billion billion planets in the universe (best estimate, I guess). That means that even if life is as incredibly rare that it only occurs on 1 in every 1 billion planets, there are still a billion planets with life out there. That was pretty mindblowing for me to think about.
Good book, that. Big fan of Dicky Dawkins.
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Voyager near Solar System's edge
Voyager 1, the most distant spacecraft from Earth, has reached a new milestone in its quest to leave the Solar System.
Now 17.4bn km (10.8bn miles) from home, the veteran probe has detected a distinct change in the flow of particles that surround it.
These particles, which emanate from the Sun, are no longer travelling outwards but are moving sideways.
It means Voyager must be very close to making the jump to interstellar space - the space between the stars.
Edward Stone, the Voyager project scientist, lauded the explorer and the fascinating science it continues to return 33 years after launch.
"When Voyager was launched, the space age itself was only 20 years old, so there was no basis to know that spacecraft could last so long," he told BBC News.
"We had no idea how far we would have to travel to get outside the Solar System. We now know that in roughly five years, we should be outside for the first time."
Dr Stone was speaking here at the American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting, the largest gathering of Earth scientists in the world.
Particle bubble
Voyager 1 was launched on 5 September 1977, and its sister spacecraft, Voyager 2, on 20 August 1977.
The Nasa probes' initial goal was to survey the outer planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune, a task completed in 1989.
They were then despatched towards deep space, in the general direction of the centre of our Milky Way Galaxy.
Sustained by their radioactive power packs, the probes' instruments continue to function well and return data to Earth, although the vast distance between them and Earth means a radio message now has a travel time of about 16 hours.
The newly reported observation comes from Voyager 1's Low-Energy Charged Particle Instrument, which has been monitoring the velocity of the solar wind.
This stream of charged particles forms a bubble around our Solar System known as the heliosphere. The wind travels at "supersonic" speed until it crosses a shockwave called the termination shock.
At this point, the wind then slows dramatically and heats up in a region termed the heliosheath. Voyager has determined the velocity of the wind at its location has now slowed to zero.
Racing onwards
"We have gotten to the point where the wind from the Sun, which until now has always had an outward motion, is no longer moving outward; it is only moving sideways so that it can end up going down the tail of the heliosphere, which is a comet-shaped-like object," said Dr Stone, who is based at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, California.
This phenomenon is a consequence of the wind pushing up against the matter coming from other stars. The boundary between the two is the "official" edge of the Solar System - the heliopause. Once Voyager crosses over, it will be in interstellar space.
First hints that Voyager had encountered something new came in June. Several months of further data were required to confirm the observation.
"When I realized that we were getting solid zeroes, I was amazed," said Rob Decker, a Voyager Low-Energy Charged Particle Instrument co-investigator from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland.
"Here was Voyager, a spacecraft that has been a workhorse for 33 years, showing us something completely new again."
Voyager is racing on towards the heliopause at 17km/s. Dr Stone expects the cross-over to occur within the next few years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11988466
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Big year next year for space and stuff. Stay frosty.
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Big year next year for space and stuff. Stay frosty.
Well share the knowledge, man.
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So all the NASA stuff from last week- the arsenic based life- has been called into question. Apparently the study was pretty poor, and a lot of people are calling into question the peer-review process in that case.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
Truly amazing stuff. 720p and full screen it.
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If that's one of those videos that will make my brain hurt I'm not watching it.
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As disappointing as that NASA press conference was, the news astronomically improves the chances of there being other life. There has to be.
The paper that press conference was referring to got ripped to shreds by plenty of scientists in the week or so after it was published.
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God I love space.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnPGDWD_oLE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
Truly amazing stuff. 720p and full screen it.
Oh s***, son.
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And strangely, there seems to be some giant Dark Object outside the solar system throwing things into our solar system! Daily Mail ran the story, so imagine they're claiming its an illegal immigrant planet trying to sneak into our garden to leach of the 'system'. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1336540/Massive-dark-object-lurking-edge-solar-hurling-comets-Earth.html
Other people suggest its the mysterious Nibiru planet, the planet that's due to kill us all off in 2012. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision
The idea that a planet-sized object could possibly collide with or pass by Earth in the near future is not supported by any scientific evidence
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:lol: Never get tired of that one.
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Aye, I never tire of watching that video.
It's astonishing, it really is. We simply can't be the only form of life, man.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
Truly amazing stuff. 720p and full screen it.
Oh s***, son.
That is astonishing. We are deffo not alone, like.
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Did the old 720p/full screen job on that video, Dave. Absolutely superb, and thought-provoking viewing. It's just mind-blowing stuff.
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Aye, I never tire of watching that video.
It's astonishing, it really is. We simply can't be the only form of life, man.
Its got to be pretty impossible for us to be the only kind of life tbf. The Human race could already have existed hundreds of thousands of times over at varying points of the universe. It's absolutely mental to think about. We are literally nothing.
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I'm bang into this at the minute - The holographic Universe -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMLVjFrtq6Q
Canny complicated but bascially everthing we see and are : is a 3d projection from the even horizon of a black hole.
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Some of these theories are total mind f***s. :lol:
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Read - http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html
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I'm bang into this at the minute - The holographic Universe -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMLVjFrtq6Q
Canny complicated but bascially everthing we see and are : is a 3d projection from the even horizon of a black hole.
:lol: Another one I never get sick of. He's got loads of interesting videos.
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Serious mind melt but i really do like this theory, it explains a fair bit and works on multiple levels.
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Cant watch that in the library but is that one of those string theory videos? If so, I reckon the best one is 'understanding the 12th dimension'. I posted it in the youtube thread a while back, but the animations and the voice over are superb and really clear.
I love science :D
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Gonna give some of these a watch later :fwap:
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Gonna be disappointed if that smiley is any indication.
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:lol:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
Truly amazing stuff. 720p and full screen it.
Oh s***, son.
Brilliant :coolsmiley:
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Cant watch that in the library but is that one of those string theory videos? If so, I reckon the best one is 'understanding the 12th dimension'. I posted it in the youtube thread a while back, but the animations and the voice over are superb and really clear.
I love science :D
wwatch the 4 parts - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTjUqI6W3yQ
We really are a hologram, everything in the universe is light and energy, your brain is just the receiver of information.
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:lol: Never get tired of that one.
Saw the video above as well and thought instantly, i love that clip.
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That's pretty cool, but the planets don't seem to align during 2012!
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Just to cheer you up on a Tuesday Morning, here is a list of all Potentially Hazardous Asteroids (Asteroids/Comets that have an Earth crossing orbit) http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/ a few coming our way in 2011/2012. Get those Parky Tin Hats on!
http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html - This one comes VERY close, but not until October 2011 or so.
... as do these ones: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/ Be one great light show in the sky. Most of these aren't TOO big, but still...
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Man, watching the orbits of Earth and Mars, I got terribly frightened for anyone that finds themselves stranded between the planets. There is a nice little window where they're pretty close, and then the Earth just absolutely zooms away.
One mistake and you're out there forever.
Even if you make it to Mars, you still have to wait 18-26 months it seems for a chance to return. f***. The balls on the people that will make that trip. Hope I'm alive for that.
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Funny you say that, as there's a website claiming to have the original source recordings of early Russian Space Flights. They're suppose to be brutal. Cosmonaughts crying and screaming as their ships burn on re-entry, or as they become aware that their ship is drifting out into space. Gives me chills thinking about it.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0235.shtml
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INgk5IU4UzE
Looking that up led me to this.
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My pal has been telling me that NASA has disocovered summik in the oort cloud, a "failed star" or summik.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20110218.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnAVc5kNGy4
Weird!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INgk5IU4UzE
Looking that up led me to this.
Those video's are quality
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It needs a lot more exposure time (this is only 20 x 1mins - should be 20 x 10mins...at least) but I thought some of you may be interested in one of the many things viewable from Terra Firma.
I had tracking issues so it's very poor compared to what I should be getting. :-[
(http://www.clockworkjunkie.com/assets/no/crop-small.jpg)
Quality Poot, is that Andromeda?
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Thats an amazing picture. Would love to get a telescope and stuff but honestly wouldnt know where to begin.
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Pair of good binoculars are just as good (and can be cheaper).
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Thats an amazing picture. Would love to get a telescope and stuff but honestly wouldnt know where to begin.
Through young ladies windows.
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Thanks for the advice lads, (not Gimp, hes a clown).
Got any more good pics POOT? would love to see em.
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Thanks for the advice lads, (not Gimp, hes a clown).
Got any more good pics POOT? would love to see em.
Fcking hell, lighten up man.
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Thanks for the advice lads, (not Gimp, hes a clown).
Got any more good pics POOT? would love to see em.
Fcking hell, lighten up man.
:lol: Should maybe have put a smiley, thought I didnt need to with you. Brain must still be clouded from your wedding experience?
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I'm offended.
anyway back to the space stuff.
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Where are you taking these photo's ?
Would love to go out into the wilderness and see these things with the naked eyes.
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/img/galleries/hubble/NO10_350x301.jpg)
Taken with Nokia.
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:lol:
Sorry, it was a cheap joke!
Love space shots like.
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Howay man POOT, get some other pics up bonnie lad!!
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/img/galleries/hubble/NO10_350x301.jpg)
Taken with Nokia.
Horse head nebula, my very persoanl fave.
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I got my degree in Physics for one reason. Gamma Ray Bursts are the most energetic explosions in space that we know of. And explosions are f***ing cool.
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Never too late to learn physics. All you need is the light switch to turn on in your head and illuminate the blueprints to the Universe.
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I love physics now, far to late to learn it all tho.
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Physics and Chemistry were probably my two most hated subjects at school; I honestly cant remember a single thing I may or may not have learned in those classes. Kids for the most part just aren't interested. Wish I'd took more notice now.
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Yeh. Most people I know are inspired by physics now but when we were at school it just wasn't what most teens cared about. Same with chemistry.
I'm absorbing what I can now though. It's fascinating.
When i was at school it was staring at a blackboard with numbers written in bad hand writing, not really inspiring.
Could be done so much better.
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Also physics are pretty fcking improtant considering the whole universe can be describe in maths.
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Yep...it was taught in such an arse over tit way. When the mercury came out it was always a laugh, though! :lol:
We were asked s*** questions and had to figure them out. Nothing about planets or gravity etc.
Could have been so much more interesting, then again the school i went to wasn't there to spark imagination.
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I'm telling you. It's never too late to learn physics. I taught it foe a few years, and still tutor people in it. All it takes is a slight shift in perspective. Mathematics is treated like the plague, when in fact the epistemology, the very processes of learning are nearly the same whether you are making a sculpture or solving a differential equation. Convince yourself of that and 25% of the battle is won.
The average certainly have the hardware to understand physics and higher math. It's the software in their brain that is holding them back.
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You need to be taught by someone who looks at the physical world like a child in some ways. If the teacher doesn't have a sense of wonder about some of the crazy s*** going on in the Universe, then it's going to be difficult to inspire anyone.
My thesis advisor had me prove or disprove a hypothesis to explain Gamma Ray Bursts. His crackpot theory was having a small black hole (size of a neutron) oscillate through a sun until it gains enough mass, and devours it, thus releasing a ridiculously cool explosion of f***ing staggering proportions. The mathematics showed that this theory was absolutely f***ing absurd. But still it was pretty damn interesting to research. And his absolutely crazy ideas inspired me, even if I suspected that he is a mad scientist bent on destroying our sun with a primordial black hole.
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Thats the sort of stuff that draws me to physics and deep space astrology,but the subject itself just turns my grey matter to mush and just leaves me flabber gasted.
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deep space astrology?
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Also physics are pretty fcking improtant considering the whole universe can be describe in maths.
The whole universe? Really?
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NASA's twitter account usually has a good picture or two on it a day:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1913.html
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Also physics are pretty fcking improtant considering the whole universe can be describe in maths.
The whole universe? Really?
Yes.
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http://vimeo.com/22439234
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Lush that :thup:
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2fjx698e1UI/TNbWVSQ32LI/AAAAAAAABuA/aric47fiFLM/s1600/DSC03719-2.jpg)
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f***! The JK nebula! Rare as f*** :kasper:
:lol:
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I honestly reckon I'd get giddy like a girl if I ever saw or managed to take a photo like that to be honest. Great stuff. :clap:
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Got some more time on the same galaxy I posted on the previous page. Still not enough but it's a vast improvement and heading the right way. Probably need a few more hours of exposure.
(http://www.clockworkjunkie.com/assets/no/M51-40pc.jpg)
You take that from one of your own telescopes or something? Looks amazing.
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Looks like you've caught another galaxy in the top right too.
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Excellent stuff man :thup:
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A GIANT asteroid heading towards Earth will just miss us in November, Nasa experts predicted last night.
The space rock is 1,300ft wide and weighs 55million tons - the largest object ever to approach our planet so close.
It will pass at a distance of 201,700 miles - described by an astronomer as "a cosmic hair's breadth".
That is closer than the Moon, which orbits 238,857 miles away on average.
The asteroid, called YU55, is officially labelled a Potentially Hazardous Object.
If it did hit Earth, it would have the force of more than 65,000 atomic bombs, blasting a crater six miles wide and 2,000ft deep.
It orbits the sun every 14 years. But experts are confident it will not collide with us within 100 years.
YU55 will be visible with small telescopes around November 8.
Robin Scagell, of the Society for Popular Astronomy, said: "It's rare we get the chance to see an asteroid up close."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3563574/Huge-asteroid-heading-towards-Earth-will-pass-us-in-November-says-Nasa.html
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Just to cheer you up on a Tuesday Morning, here is a list of all Potentially Hazardous Asteroids (Asteroids/Comets that have an Earth crossing orbit) http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/ a few coming our way in 2011/2012. Get those Parky Tin Hats on!
http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html - This one comes VERY close, but not until October 2011 or so.
... as do these ones: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/ Be one great light show in the sky. Most of these aren't TOO big, but still...
:thup:
Some good photo ops for POOT!
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I remember the last decent one (Hale–Bopp) in 1997 or so, was in the sky for 3 days. Just hanging there, couldn't stop looking at it. :lol:
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http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/
further reading: http://einstein.stanford.edu/SPACETIME/spacetime4.html
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A GIANT asteroid heading towards Earth will just miss us in November, Nasa experts predicted last night.
The space rock is 1,300ft wide and weighs 55million tons - the largest object ever to approach our planet so close.
It will pass at a distance of 201,700 miles - described by an astronomer as "a cosmic hair's breadth".
That is closer than the Moon, which orbits 238,857 miles away on average.
The asteroid, called YU55, is officially labelled a Potentially Hazardous Object.
If it did hit Earth, it would have the force of more than 65,000 atomic bombs, blasting a crater six miles wide and 2,000ft deep.
It orbits the sun every 14 years. But experts are confident it will not collide with us within 100 years.
YU55 will be visible with small telescopes around November 8.
Robin Scagell, of the Society for Popular Astronomy, said: "It's rare we get the chance to see an asteroid up close."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3563574/Huge-asteroid-heading-towards-Earth-will-pass-us-in-November-says-Nasa.html
Closer than the moon? Sounds like we'll see it in the sky then, if of course this is true. Cant really trust The Sun much though.
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(http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/images/2005_YU55_approach_movie.gif)
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Narrow escape by the moon there.
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Poot, that photograph is absolutely awesome. Truly jaw-dropping. :thup:
Look forward to you being able to put some more up soon. :)
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http://universesandbox.com/about/
Bit of Fun!
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Free version on the website, its a little less in depth, but still fun.
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Anyone watching the morgan freeman prog on discovery? On sunday nights 9 pm.
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Imagine you didn't know, or weren't informed, and just happened to turn your head to the side and saw a space shuttle flying past. :lol: I really hope this isn't the last launch ever, as it makes me sad to think the Space Program is closing down. To think we landed on the Moon over 50 years ago, and we haven't really done much since then, just a lot of long distance perving. I've watched too much Star Trek, but it would be cool if people did just come together, worked for free, and helped us explore Space. :lol:
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What? They're not sending people up into space anymore?
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Phew. Thought the dream was over.
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Phew. Thought the dream was over.
The original Dream is, certainly Kennedy's one, though you could argue his dream wasn't really about getting into Space, and onto the Moon, it was all about beating the Russians to it. Its a shame it took something like that to spark a boom in technological advances (and a lot of luck), and one of mankind's greatest achievements. The commercial plans for space exploration are starting to come into effect now, like POOT mentioned, which will be interesting to see how it turns out.
It needs to a success from the first launch, otherwise everything will just close down. Space travel comes under so much more scrutiny then anything else. Could be right to do so considering the 'cost', but I don't know, I just feel people are overly harsh when anything goes wrong.
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Arnt the Chinese or Japanese planning to send people to the moon?
Its a real shame the likes of NASA arnt planning to send people to Mars. Yes its very far and its the great unknown, but still, even sending satellites or whatever over to it and have a nosey about with the long term goal of putting a person there would be amazing.
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Aye, conspiracy nutjobs can't wait for it either as they think it'll finally expose the secrets that NASA have kept from us... you know like the secret alien moonbases and that.
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Commercial flights to space are really exciting. Just knowing that if you ever come in to a bit of money you could go to space man.
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I just asked my lass if she'd want to go into space if we won the lottery. She said 'No, Hot Air Balloon would be nice though'. :no:
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Is it true that they are taking down the International Space Station in 2016? Arnt they still building it?
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Imagine you didn't know, or weren't informed, and just happened to turn your head to the side and saw a space shuttle flying past. :lol: I really hope this isn't the last launch ever, as it makes me sad to think the Space Program is closing down. To think we landed on the Moon over 50 years ago, and we haven't really done much since then, just a lot of long distance perving. I've watched too much Star Trek, but it would be cool if people did just come together, worked for free, and helped us explore Space. :lol:
:kasper: OBIchrisKENOBI! You miss spelled WARS as treck. :tickedoff:
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Have a word! This is a serious matter!
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Went to the Uncaged Monkeys gig at the town hall the other week with Brian Cox on the bill. He showed the Hubble ultra deep field image, probably the best demonstration I've seen of the size of the universe.
They aimed a camera out into a bit of space which looks empty, it's an image of a patch of space which makes up one thirteen millionth of the sky. It's something like the equivalent of holding a 5 pence piece around 7 and a half metres from your eye (can't remember exactly what he said). It took a three month exposure and you can see 10,000 galaxies, likely some two trillion stars and an almost undescribable number of planets, the light of which has been travelling 13 billion years. A glimpse into the universe less than a billion years after the big bang, a bunch of galaxies (and who knows what contained within them) long since dead. Extrapolated this means there are probably a hundred billion galaxies in the universe.
Absolutely humbling.
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Hubbleling
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Hubbleling
f*** :lol:
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Went to the Uncaged Monkeys gig at the town hall the other week with Brian Cox on the bill. He showed the Hubble ultra deep field image, probably the best demonstration I've seen of the size of the universe.
They aimed a camera out into a bit of space which looks empty, it's an image of a patch of space which makes up one thirteen millionth of the sky. It's something like the equivalent of holding a 5 pence piece around 7 and a half metres from your eye (can't remember exactly what he said). It took a three month exposure and you can see 10,000 galaxies, likely some two trillion stars and an almost undescribable number of planets, the light of which has been travelling 13 billion years. A glimpse into the universe less than a billion years after the big bang, a bunch of galaxies (and who knows what contained within them) long since dead. Extrapolated this means there are probably a hundred billion galaxies in the universe.
Absolutely humbling.
Love the Deep Field, used to look at it all the time. I know there's a red mark on it somewhere that is likely to be some sort of dusty afterglow of the alleged Big Bang itself. Used to be able to pick it out but can no longer, unfortunately.
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Love this image, taken from Mars:
(http://www.boingboing.net/images/youarehere.jpg)
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Never seen that before. Pretty special.
NASA have just announced that they've given up trying to contact one of the rovers "Spirit" on Mars. Amazingly the other one "Opportunity" is still going and being communicated with. Well be beyond their expected lifespan. Amazing.
10 years until it designs its own Rocket and flies itself back home. 15 years until its President of the United Human Nations.
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Love this image, taken from Mars:
(http://www.boingboing.net/images/youarehere.jpg)
"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there - on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
"The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors, so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
"Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
"The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand."
--Carl Sagan
from Pale Blue Dot
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q
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'love Space, like.
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Every time I keep on seeing the start of this thread title, I can't stop thinking of the Beastie Boys.
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Love this image, taken from Mars:
(http://www.boingboing.net/images/youarehere.jpg)
"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there - on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
"The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors, so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
"Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
"The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand."
--Carl Sagan
from Pale Blue Dot
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj18UQjPpGA
1080p + full screen. :thup:
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Fuuuuuck I want to go to space. Son of a bitch.
I want to be 80, and capable of just going into space. Get on the shuttle with my old man cane.
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It takes effort, it doesn't come through a timeshare arrangement.
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Hey POOT that's class, man! You were only a week or two shy of capturing it too! Looking forward to seeing the pictures.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj18UQjPpGA
1080p + full screen. :thup:
:kasper:
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(http://t.qkme.me/2p14.jpg)
:kinnear:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj18UQjPpGA
1080p + full screen. :thup:
:kasper:
Wow, i have never seen images as good as that before. They saved the best for last with the picture of the moon in the background, in my opinon.
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I've been getting so into space that I want to move somewhere in the countryside so I can have a telescope.
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Space is mint, like.
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I'm worried about the missing mass.
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It'll turn up sooner or later.
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I'm worried about the missing mass.
It's held every Dec 25th, don't despair you'll catch it this year.
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There is a theory that say's that the further we look the more we create. A theory based on Schroedinger's cat experiment. There is a probability that the universe exists just because we try to measure it. Non local connections between electrons being case in point.
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There's also a theory that we're just a hologram on the surface of a 4D "sphere".
I think they both make sense mathematically.
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A HUGE solar flare blasted from the sun's surface at 3.1million miles per hour on Monday - and it's heading in our direction.
It sounds like the plot of a blockbuster disaster movie, but here Sun professor Brian Cox explains why there is no need to panic.
THE sun is a giant nuclear reactor the size of a million earths.
It is a giant, violent cauldron of decimated atoms and, occasionally, it has a spot of bad weather.
On Monday the bad weather arrived in magnificent style as a billion tons of superheated matter were blasted into space in a spectacular event known as a solar flare.
Here on earth we won't feel a thing - it is relatively small and the explosion did not point directly at us. If you live in the far north you might see the Northern Lights dancing across the sky as increased numbers of high-energy particles smash into Earth's magnetic field.
Sun Professor ... Brian Cox
The largest solar flare in recent history is known as the Carrington Flare. On September 1, 1859, English astronomer Richard Carrington observed a series of flashes over a group of dark areas on the sun's surface, known as sunspots.
The darkened skies of London were bathed in a spectacular display of the Northern Lights, which are rarely visible from southern Britain. It was said that you could read a newspaper by their light.
But there is a much more threatening side. In 1859 the entire telegraph system failed as powerful electrical currents swept through the wires. Operators got electric shocks and the paper caught fire.
If a Carrington-sized flare hit today, it is thought that a large fraction of the satellites in orbit may be permanently damaged, leading to a communications blackout and potential chaos.
Fortunately, these massive explosions occur only once every 500 years, but this week's little blip serves as a reminder of the power of our nearby, friendly yet threatening star.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3626808/Solar-explosion-heads-to-earth.html#ixzz1OlUPCPdW
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Interesting. Just watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8dcb8iKSM
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/delta/d354/status.html
15mins till launch
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43365523/ns/technology_and_science-space/
This month's full moon will pass almost directly through the center of Earth's shadow on Wednesday in what will be an unusually long total eclipse of the moon.
The lunar eclipse will occur just two weeks after a June 1 partial solar eclipse, when the moon blocked part of the sun as viewed from Arctic regions. The eclipse won't be visible from North America due to its timing, which places the event in the daylight hours when the moon is behind the local horizon.
But the Eastern Hemisphere of Earth will be facing the moon during the eclipse. This hemisphere, centered on a spot in the Indian Ocean to the east of the island nation of Madagascar, will have a ringside seat for this event. [ Video: Inside the June 15 Total Lunar Eclipse ]
Since the Earth rotates during the several hours of the eclipse, more than a hemisphere sees stages of it.
Where the best views may be
For all of the places mentioned below, next week's lunar eclipse will be taking place during the morning early hours of Thursday as they are west of the International Date Line.
For moon-gazers in Russia's Sakhalin Island, moonset virtually coincides with the moon's entry into the umbra (1823 GMT). The beginning of penumbral eclipse starts about an hour earlier, before the moon sets, but this is only a theoretical matter since the outer part of the penumbra (the Earth's shadow) is imperceptible even high in the sky. [ Blood Moon: Photos of 2010 Total Lunar Eclipse ]
Skywatchers in Central Siberia, eastern Mongolia, northeast China, and most of Japan, Korea, New Guinea, eastern Australia and New Zealand will see the moon entering the darker shadow, called the umbra. But only as it's going down in the west-southwest at the end of the night does the moon becomes totally eclipsed (at 1922 UT).
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On the other side of the globe, a slice of eastern South America, Western Europe and the west coast of Africa will see the moon emerge from above their east-southeast horizon on the evening of Wednesday (June 15), already in total eclipse.
As the moon climbs higher in the sky, skywatchers may be able to watch it slowly emerge from the Earth's shadow beginning at 2102 GMT.
You may recall that in early January, European cities such as Oslo, London, Paris and Madrid were all treated to a solar eclipse at sunrise. Now, just over half a year later they'll all see a lunar eclipse at moonrise.
What to look for
In the sky, the moon will crossing through the non-zodiacal constellation of Ophiuchus and will be positioned roughly halfway between the bright red star Antares in Scorpius and Nunki, the brightest star in the handle of the Teapot asterism of Sagittarius. The star clouds of the summer Milky Way in this particular region of the sky are bright and spectacular; sweeping with binoculars or a rich-field telescope reveals a mass of innumerable stars.
Of course, before the eclipse begins the moon will completely obscure these faint stars of the Milky Way, but as it gradually becomes more and more immersed in the Earth's shadow, the sky will correspondingly darken.
During totality, the moon will appear 10,000 to 100,000 times dimmer and will seem almost three-dimensional; like an eerily illuminated ball from a non-light polluted location, the beautiful summer Milky Way appears nearby as a striking backdrop.
And as a bonus, according to Phillip S. Harrington in his book "Eclipse!" (John Wiley & Sons Inc., 1997) during totality, the moon will occult the 9th magnitude globular cluster NGC 6401. Notes Harrington: "The best place to see the event will be in central Asia. There, as well as in eastern Europe and northeastern Africa, observers will see the moon occult the cluster in a comparatively dark sky."
A long lunar eclipse
At mid-eclipse (2013 GMT), the moon will be passing just to the north of the center of the Earth's shadow.
As such, the duration of totality is an unusually long 100 minutes, which is just seven minutes shy of the absolute maximum for a total lunar eclipse. In fact, over the last 100 years, only three other eclipses have rivaled the duration of totality of this eclipse : The total lunar eclipse of July 16, 1935, lasted 101 minutes; the eclipse of July 6, 1982, lasted 107 minutes; the eclipse of July 16, 2000, lasted 107 minutes.
The next total lunar eclipse of exceptional length will come on July 27, 2018, and will last 106 minutes.
On Dec. 10, 2011, another total lunar eclipse will be visible before the moon sets over the western United States and Canada. After that, the next total lunar eclipse that will be widely visible across all of North America will be on April 15, 2014.
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Alien 'planets' on our doorstep. Amazing stuff.
Europa
(http://i10.tinypic.com/8gfsjub.jpg)
Io
(http://home.honolulu.hawaii.edu/~pine/images/Io.jpg)
Iapetus (Or as some people call it 'The Death Star') (http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon3.htm)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/sallokin/Iapetusfulldisk_l.jpg)
(http://www.enterprisemission.com/images_v2/Iapetus3/Deathstar-Comp2.1.jpg)
Martian Ice Cap
(http://i11.tinypic.com/6jytwqp.jpg)
Dust Devils on Mars
(http://www1.nasa.gov/images/content/113333main_1114050279_5705-1_dd_enhanced_456-A462R1.gif)
(http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/images/wallpaper/800/PSP_006477_1745.jpg)
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/don%E2%80%99t-miss-tonight%E2%80%99s-total-lunar-eclipse.html
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/don%E2%80%99t-miss-tonight%E2%80%99s-total-lunar-eclipse.html
:thup:
:giggs: :D
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That photo of Europa is amazing OCK.
(To be fair, they all are)
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Anyone watch the Destination Mars thing on BBC a few nights ago? Pretty sure that Mars where life is concerned, is a lost cause but interesting all the same. Wonder if anyone will ever go there. Fascinating how tight and how perfectly time you've got to be to accurately rendez-vous with the planet's orbit of the sun, as they have done with the rovers and such.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2004130/International-Space-Station-image-shows-Britain-space.html#ixzz1PRdOuiDX
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Wow!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2004130/International-Space-Station-image-shows-Britain-space.html#ixzz1PRdOuiDX
:thup:
Stunning. :thup:
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There's a new series of The Infinite Monkey Cage on (Brian Cox + Robin Ince + guests) radio 4 at the moment, the podcasts can be had off of the BBC website or iTunes. It's one of the best podcasts out there if you're interested in science/cosmology/rationalism.
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There's a new series of The Infinite Monkey Cage on (Brian Cox + Robin Ince + guests) radio 4 at the moment, the podcasts can be had off of the BBC website or iTunes. It's one of the best podcasts out there if you're interested in science/cosmology/rationalism.
Cheers. Getting that one. :thup:
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Interesting scale thing from the BBC. Check them all out. The moon landing is the one that surprised be the most.
http://howbigreally.com/dimension/space/moon
Bloody hell. The shuttle landing strip is some length.
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http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-06/herschel-spots-young-star-spewing-water-jets-interstellar-space?cmpid=tw
Researchers looking for signs of life elsewhere in the universe often start by looking for one key ingredient necessary to complex life as we know it: water. And just 750 light-years away, they’ve found quite a bit of it spewing from the poles of a young, sunlike star that is blasting jets of H2O into interstellar space at 124,000 miles per hour.
This discovery is interesting on a number of levels. For one, it indicates that throughout the universe young protostars could be distributing vast quantities of water, potentially seeding life elsewhere. But it also sheds some light on the formation of our own sun, and the role water may have played in its formation and in the formation of our own planet.
The star was discovered by ESA’s Herschel Space Observatory, whose eyes were able to pierce the dense cloud of gas and dust that is feeding the star’s formation. There, Herschel saw light signature indicative of hydrogen and oxygen, and in following those traces found that these atoms are forming water on and around the star. But as the molecules move through the star and are injected into the massive jets of gas spewing from the poles, the heat and pressure vaporize the water into jets of gas.
Only when the gas jets are far enough away from the star do they rapidly cool and turn back into liquid. At this point, the water droplets are essentially bullets of water moving something like 80 times faster than the average round fired from a rifle. And there’s a lot of them. The amount of water ejecting from the star is equal to the amount that flows through the Amazon every second, researchers say.
Astronomers think this water-spewing stage is short, but that it is also something every protostar goes through. If so, that means water could be scattered all over the universe. And that’s an interesting thought indeed.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/06/110613-space-science-star-water-bullets-kristensen/
Seven hundred and fifty light-years from Earth, a young, sunlike star has been found with jets that blast epic quantities of water into interstellar space, shooting out droplets that move faster than a speeding bullet.
The discovery suggests that protostars may be seeding the universe with water. These stellar embryos shoot jets of material from their north and south poles as their growth is fed by infalling dust that circles the bodies in vast disks.
"If we picture these jets as giant hoses and the water droplets as bullets, the amount shooting out equals a hundred million times the water flowing through the Amazon River every second," said Lars Kristensen, a postdoctoral astronomer at Leiden University in the Netherlands.
"We are talking about velocities reaching 200,000 kilometers [124,000 miles] per hour, which is about 80 times faster than bullets flying out of a machine gun," said Kristensen, lead author of the new study detailing the discovery, which has been accepted for publication in the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
(Related: "Dimmest Stars in Universe Spotted?")
Water Vanishes, Only to Reappear
Located in the northern constellation Perseus, the protostar is no more than a hundred thousand years old and remains swaddled in a large cloud—gas and dust from which the star was born.
Using an infrared instrument on the European Space Agency's Herschel Space Observatory, researchers were able to peer through the cloud and detect telltale light signatures of hydrogen and oxygen atoms—the building blocks of water—moving on and around the star.
After tracing the paths of these atoms, the team concluded that water forms on the star, where temperatures are a few thousand degrees Celsius. But once the droplets enter the outward-spewing jets of gas, 180,000-degree-Fahrenheit (100,000-degree-Celsius) temperatures blast the water back into gaseous form.
Once the hot gases hit the much cooler surrounding material—at about 5,000 times the distance from the sun to Earth—they decelerate, creating a shock front where the gases cool down rapidly, condense, and reform as water, Kristensen said.
(Related: "Coldest Star Found—No Hotter Than Fresh Coffee.")
Stellar Sprinkler Nourishes Galactic "Garden"
What's really exciting about the discovery is that it appears to be a stellar rite of passage, the researchers say, which may shed new light on the earliest stages of our own sun's life—and how water fits into that picture.
"We are only now beginning to understand that sunlike stars probably all undergo a very energetic phase when they are young," Kristensen said. "It's at this point in their lives when they spew out a lot of high-velocity material—part of which we now know is water."
Like a celestial sprinkler system, the star may be enriching the interstellar medium—thin gases that float in the voids between stars. And because the hydrogen and oxygen in water are key components of the dusty disks in which stars form, such protostar sprinklers may be encouraging the growth of further stars, the study says.
(Related: "Supersonic 'Hail' Seeds Star Systems With Water.")
The water-jet phenomenon seen in Perseus is "probably a short-lived phase all protostars go through," Kristensen said.
"But if we have enough of these sprinklers going off throughout the galaxy—this starts to become interesting on many levels."
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One day, we're going to look so deep, we'll be looking at our own reflection! :lol:
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One day, we're going to look so deep, we'll be looking at our own reflection! :lol:
wow :lol:
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One day, we're going to look so deep, we'll be looking at our own reflection! :lol:
That may well be the point we come to if Holographic Theory is correct
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Interesting scale thing from the BBC. Check them all out. The moon landing is the one that surprised be the most.
http://howbigreally.com/dimension/space/moon
Bloody hell. The shuttle landing strip is some length.
Anar, its the size of Washington! :kasper:
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One day, we're going to look so deep, we'll be looking at our own reflection! :lol:
That may well be the point we come to if Holographic Theory is correct
Now that's one that *really* messes with my head. I can handle being a smart monkey, but I don't wanna be a hologram :(
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One day, we're going to look so deep, we'll be looking at our own reflection! :lol:
That may well be the point we come to if Holographic Theory is correct
Now that's one that *really* messes with my head. I can handle being a smart monkey, but I don't wanna be a hologram :(
Holographic theory makes me soaking wet in my pants.
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I was watching these from Jack Sarfatti in the gym on saturday...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc4IAXIHgtc
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Ice on Mercury?
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-mercury-messenger-20110617,0,7527542.story
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One day, we're going to look so deep, we'll be looking at our own reflection! :lol:
That may well be the point we come to if Holographic Theory is correct
Now that's one that *really* messes with my head. I can handle being a smart monkey, but I don't wanna be a hologram :(
HT is incomprehensible tbf. I can't even pretend to follow it or be able to see any thin logic it in. It's just outrageous and something I actually hope isn't true.
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I hope its true, humanity could do with an epic kick up the arse.
If we are a holographic image, does that mean there is a god?
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One day, we're going to look so deep, we'll be looking at our own reflection! :lol:
That may well be the point we come to if Holographic Theory is correct
Now that's one that *really* messes with my head. I can handle being a smart monkey, but I don't wanna be a hologram :(
HT is incomprehensible tbf. I can't even pretend to follow it or be able to see any thin logic it in. It's just outrageous and something I actually hope isn't true.
As far as I understand it (very little), it's just a bit of maths that says all the information within a sphere can be shown on its surface. That means that it's *possible* that we are merely a reflection on the surface of a higher-dimensional "sphere" of what's going on within that sphere.
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If we're a reflection, and aware of it, that would mean our 2d reflections in the mirror are aware! :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
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If we're a reflection, and aware of it, that would mean our 2d reflections in the mirror are aware! :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
Who is projecting who?!?!?
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45/Bone_Meal/MY-HEAD-IS-FULL-OF-f***.jpg)
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http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/07/the-history-of-the-space-shuttle/100097/
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http://www.technewsworld.com/story/The-Holographic-Universe-Is-Our-3D-World-Just-an-Illusion-72804.html?wlc=1309984273&wlc=1310117119
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I never tire of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
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Hows your photo coming along, P00t?
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http://www.space.com/10551-huge-storm-saturn-photographed-cassini-spacecraft.html
An enormous storm has erupted in Saturn’s northern hemisphere. Amateurs first sighted the storm earlier this month, but the Cassini spacecraft moved into a good position on Dec. 24 to photograph it from about 1.1 million miles away. Earth received the raw and unprocessed shots today.
(http://i.space.com/images/i/7593/i02/cassini-saturn-storm-101227-02.jpg?1294512205)
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3f6d9fbb6392.jpg)
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110726101719.htm
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Horizon: Seeing Stars
Around the world, a new generation of astronomers are hunting for the most mysterious objects in the universe. Young stars, black holes, even other forms of life.
They have created a dazzling new set of super-telescopes that promise to rewrite the story of the heavens.
This film follows the men and women who are pushing the limits of science and engineering in some of the most extreme environments on earth. But most strikingly of all, no-one really knows what they will find out there.
On BBC2 and BBC HD at 9 tonight. Might be good, might look really good in HD as well.
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The big evil comet that was coming to destroy us seems to have broken up into several smaller pieces.
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Some pretty impressive pictures of the moon taken recently by the LRO. You can slide the white line in the middle to either side of the photo to show the difference in quality between the pictures recently taken and the old ones from 2009.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
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Moons north pole
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/584875main_image_2054_946-710.jpg)
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Moons north pole
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/584875main_image_2054_946-710.jpg)
Its got a massive hole in it?!?!?!?!?
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Well, duh, where else the Moonmins gonna live.
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the moomins weren't on the moon, its was the clangers.
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The Clangers drove them underground, man, which in turn forced the Wombles to relocate to Wimbledon Common. Its all there - OPEN YOUR EYES!
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But what about mooncat!?!?!??
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If it's a clear night tonight, and if you have a telescope, you are supposed to be able to see a Supernova.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8749141/Brightest-supernova-in-25-years-visible-to-stargazers-in-Britain-this-week.html
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:thup:
Sure POOT will have some awesome photos for us. Speaking of which... how are they coming along, POOT? You never update us anymore :(
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Indian/Pakistani border (India left - New Dehli big patch of light, Pakistan right)
(http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/border-from-space-580x370.jpg)
http://www.universetoday.com/88740/it-turns-out-some-borders-are-visible-from-space/
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Wow.
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New planet discovered named Super Earth - habitable for life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZkG31hvQto#)
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They find 1 of these every few years and I always get excited. Shame, CNN make it sound really dumb.
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New planet discovered named Super Earth - habitable for life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZkG31hvQto#)
What a terrible clip. :lol:
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Oh so it might look like that and it may have water.
Canny.
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http://io9.com/5840691/ (http://io9.com/5840691/)Tatooine is real!!!
Star Wars - Binary Sunset (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiF0JVsPhw8#ws)
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Im sure ive heard or read before that a binary systems are really common in the universe...ou solar system with only one star is uncommon.
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Im sure ive heard or read before that a binary systems are really common in the universe...ou solar system with only one star is uncommon.
Yup!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14952001 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14952001)
18,000mph. :lol:
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Im sure ive heard or read before that a binary systems are really common in the universe...ou solar system with only one star is uncommon.
Yup!
T'would be f***ing hot like.
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What does it feel like to fly over planet Earth? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74mhQyuyELQ#)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034073 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034073)
US officials now say the fall to Earth of Nasa's six-tonne UARS satellite could occur early on Saturday (GMT).
Estimates of where debris might fall will be narrowed hours before impact.
And a UK team studying the trajectory says the most likely time for re-entry could be after 23:00 GMT Friday, and as late as 03:00 GMT on Saturday.
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Can't wait.
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Thought to have landed somewhere in Canada, of all places.
#Conspiracy. :shifty:
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Hopefully it hit Bieber.
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Love how they say you have to give it back, if it landed in my garden I'd be keeping it thanks, 'specially if any damage occurred!
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I'd psted this in the Not Worthy thread and it got no love, so maybe it will in here. It was taken by a lad I work with, not me. He has like a £70 telescope from costco and sticks a dslr over the eyepiece. To get the colour definition was great
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/jdcrichton/Jupiter.jpg)
EDIT: Oh, Its Jupiter, btw.
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That's f***ing class like.
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Incredible that you can see that so easily and at such little expense.
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Such a good shot. It's almost underwhelming but still remains spectacular.
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Imagine being the first guy to ever spot that in the sky. Blow your mind.
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Wow, great photo of Jupiter, especially on something what costs £70.
Edit: Just Stumpled upon this:
(http://www.liftport.com/storage/LPG%20-%20LiftPOrt%20Ship%20-%20Final%20-%20For%20Website%20Banner.jpg)
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An elevator to space, funny enough I caught a few minutes of some James May show today about that. Is is even possible? It just sounds daft as f*** :lol:
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I can't imagine it'd be safe. Imagine if that wire, for whatever reason, snaps (even out of use). Its going to come crashing back down to Earth...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034073 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034073)
US officials now say the fall to Earth of Nasa's six-tonne UARS satellite could occur early on Saturday (GMT).
Estimates of where debris might fall will be narrowed hours before impact.
And a UK team studying the trajectory says the most likely time for re-entry could be after 23:00 GMT Friday, and as late as 03:00 GMT on Saturday.
THere was a look of shock in our household when i piped up and said "I see U ARS has dropped"
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Atlantis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzE859Nw3W4#ws)
Watch full screen. Ace.
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This is pretty good:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19479_the-6-most-mind-blowing-things-ever-discovered-in-space.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19479_the-6-most-mind-blowing-things-ever-discovered-in-space.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage)
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The 'Doomsday' comet Elenin past the closest point to Earth last night. We're all still alive (or the afterlife is strangely very similar to the beforelife) http://www.space.com/13302-doomsday-comet-elenin-pieces-earth-flyby.html (http://www.space.com/13302-doomsday-comet-elenin-pieces-earth-flyby.html)
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There's been a few 'near misses' this year!
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(http://news.discovery.com/space/2011/10/17/moon-props-825.jpg)
Canny picture
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This is pretty good:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19479_the-6-most-mind-blowing-things-ever-discovered-in-space.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19479_the-6-most-mind-blowing-things-ever-discovered-in-space.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage)
That was boss that. I knew a couple of 'em (the biiiiig star and the diamond one), and now I'm off to look into the Newfound Blob.
What I don't understand is how Cracked failed to include the 288 billion-mile alcohol cloud (http://www.physorg.com/news63346824.html) in space. Alcohol! 288 billion miles of it!
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A f***ing bling planet!! Awesome!
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A f***ing bling planet!! Awesome!
STAR! Not a planet, man, a f***ing star!
That said, it's only a third of the size of the Earth. But over 3,000,000 times the weight!
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Its f***ing mental to think about, we'll probs discover even more weird s*** as we use more powerful technologies to look back in time.
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Its f***ing mental to think about, we'll probs discover even more weird s*** as we use more powerful technologies to look back in time.
The thing that gets me is exactly that we're looking back in time. 13 billion years ago, man. That's nearly back to the beginning of everything, as far as we know. The Blob probably looks much like our corner of the universe by now. All of those stars will have long since died and new ones will have formed from the remains.
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Aye, its frustrating that we cant see what its like "now" or even travel there.
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Aye, its frustrating that we cant see what its like "now" or even travel there.
That would be sooooooooo cool! Bound to be some aliens and s***.
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I would suspect so, we would probs discouver loads of civilisations. A bit like somone connectng to the inertnet for the first time, after thinking you had the only computer in the world.
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Yeah. It seems utterly implausible to me that Earth would contain the only life in a universe this large.
The big problem, imo, is that of a given species still being around by the time the evidence of their existence reaches another species capable of interpreting it. I mean, there are only 15000 star systems within 100 light years of here, and a couple of million within 500 light years out of maybe 9 sextillion in the universe as a whole.
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Mars moons Phobos and Deimos are both hollow and were originally space stations for a race that lived on Mars.
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:pow:
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Yeah. It seems utterly implausible to me that Earth would contain the only life in a universe this large.
The big problem, imo, is that of a given species still being around by the time the evidence of their existence reaches another species capable of interpreting it. I mean, there are only 15000 star systems within 100 light years of here, and a couple of million within 500 light years out of maybe 9 sextillion in the universe as a whole.
The other thing is that we're on the edge of the galactic rim which probably means our cluster former later (some complicated theory) and in that sense we are late comers. Many advanced civs have already been through here/come and gone.
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How Can Galaxies Travel Faster Than Light? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjaVI7_6Is#ws)
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Earth's twin planet discovered:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655)
It is Mondas! PLANET OF THE CYBERMEN!
:frantic:
*runs outside into traffic*
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Thought it was Rygel 7 myself.
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Earth's twin planet discovered:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655)
It is Mondas! PLANET OF THE CYBERMEN!
:frantic:
*runs outside into traffic*
TV Reference:
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Earth's twin planet discovered:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655)
It is Mondas! PLANET OF THE CYBERMEN!
:frantic:
*runs outside into traffic*
Mondas :aww:
Which one was Telos then?
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Aw, man. 600 light years away :(
Could have been much, much worse, I guess, but I'll never get to hear the reply if we send them a message tomorrow :(
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:lol: Some of the distances are an absolute slap in the f***ing face.
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:lol: Some of the distances are an absolute slap in the f***ing face.
Nobody wants to live near us :(
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Being on the galactic rim means life developed very late on earth as there was less material for planet formation and so on...I guess most of the great civs have already been and gone nearer the center. Ho hum... ;)
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Earth's twin planet discovered:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655)
It is Mondas! PLANET OF THE CYBERMEN!
:frantic:
*runs outside into traffic*
Mondas :aww:
Which one was Telos then?
I think Telos was a planet the Cybermen subsequently invaded and conquered.
All of this is true factual science.
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Being on the galactic rim means life developed very late on earth as there was less material for planet formation and so on...I guess most of the great civs have already been and gone nearer the center. Ho hum... ;)
Is that absolutely true, or just most likely? I mean, there must still be loads of stars towards the centre of the galaxy that haven't gone red giant and swallowed their planets yet, or third gen stars? (The Sun is 2nd gen, isn't it?)
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Earth's twin planet discovered:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655)
It is Mondas! PLANET OF THE CYBERMEN!
:frantic:
*runs outside into traffic*
Mondas :aww:
Which one was Telos then?
I think Telos was a planet the Cybermen subsequently invaded and conquered.
All of this is true factual science.
:lol:
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Apparently there is an announcement next week, the Higgs Boson has been detected.
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Apparently there is an announcement next week, the Higgs Boson has been detected.
Yeah read about that a few days ago.
Very interesting times lay ahead.
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I suppose it's time I went and read about what the f*** this Higgs Boson is...
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I suppose it's time I went and read about what the f*** this Higgs Boson is...
Look up the god particle.
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I just scanned the Wikipedia article.
So basically, they think the Higgs is the particle responsible for mass, and confirmation of its existence would verify the Standard Model?
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Someone explain that to me as if I'm a 6 year old.
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Someone explain that to me as if I'm a 6 year old.
Its basically them trying to prove that Santa exists. They have no idea if he does, but who else can deliver all these parcels in one day?
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It's a hypothetical elementary element, one that would be considered the basis of universe, it's a pretty big deal if it's real.
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So other than "basis of the universe", what fundamental things would it tell us, in Jens Lehmann's terms? Like, validity of the Big Bang?
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I don't think it would be that big, I'm not entirely versed on the subject, though. As far as I know it would explain a lot of lesser known mysteries about why certain particles interact in a certain way.
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If they find it, it will basically, for Scientists, confirm that their version of the periodic table is correct. How that'll change science moving forward, I'm not too sure.
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I don't think we'll know what we can do with it until we verify it, etc.
For instance though, it would be pretty useful it we discovered a way to modify the Higgs field in some way - you could do all sorts of stuff you shouldn't be able to do if you could change the mass of things (faster than light travel for example?). Very speculative but we're doing all sorts with quantum mechanics which could never have been imagined before it was proven.
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Someone explain that to me as if I'm a 6 year old.
They have a mathematical model, the Standard Model, that appears to work (measurements of the physical world match with its predictions), but it predicts the existence of this Higgs Boson. If they can find it, it confirms the correctness of their model. If they prove it doesn't exist, it's back to the drawing board regarding Quantum Theory.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/audio/2011/dec/12/science-weekly-podcast-higgs-boson (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/audio/2011/dec/12/science-weekly-podcast-higgs-boson)
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Mystery Space Ball Makes Crash Landing In Namibia
A hollow sphere that apparently crashed into Earth from space has left authorities scratching their heads.
The mystery ball left a 13ft wide crater and locals claimed to have heard several explosions before the discovery , near a village in the north of the African nation, 480 miles from the capital Windhoek.
Police forensics director Paul Ludik told the AFP news agency the sphere had a diameter of 14 inches, a rough surface and appears to be “two halves welded together”.
He added: “It is not an explosive device, but rather hollow.”
The discovery, made in November, but not made public until now, has prompted speculation over whether the mystery sphere is evidence of extra-terrestrial life.
Other sources claim it may be a hydrazine tank, which are usually used to store flammable liquid on space satellites, the Daily Mail said.
In the meantime, Nasa and the European Space Agency have been notified to carry out further tests on the object.
Similar spheres have reportedly been found in southern Africa, Australia and Latin America in the past two decades.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/12/23/space-ball-namibia_n_1167408.html?ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/12/23/space-ball-namibia_n_1167408.html?ref=mostpopular)
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"The Biggest Map Yet of the Universe
This is a map of a quarter of the known universe, the most detailed yet done. Each green dot is a galaxy..."
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/photos-final-frontier-1884336 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/photos-final-frontier-1884336)
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Bloody hell! Each dot is like hundreds of billions of stars.
I wonder if we'll ever be able to figure out how big the universe actually is.
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"The Biggest Map Yet of the Universe
This is a map of a quarter of the known universe, the most detailed yet done. Each green dot is a galaxy..."
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/photos-final-frontier-1884336 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/photos-final-frontier-1884336)
Jesus. :coolsmiley:
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Moon is f***ing intense tonight, for anyone else who loves that lunar b******.
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"The Biggest Map Yet of the Universe
This is a map of a quarter of the known universe, the most detailed yet done. Each green dot is a galaxy..."
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/photos-final-frontier-1884336 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/photos-final-frontier-1884336)
And to think some people believe we're the only ones out there. :mackems:
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Well, we're special. God's chosen ones, innit.
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Moon is f***ing intense tonight, for anyone else who loves that lunar b******.
Seriously, did anyone see it last night? Spooky as owt.
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Getting closer. ;)
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Getting further away.
At the rate of 1.5"/year.
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Getting further away.
At the rate of 1.5"/year.
Away is this years closer.
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Someone please just agree with me that it looked cool. It's all i ask. Cos i was stood gawping at it for ages; it was an odd crescent where it was shaded at 'five to four', with the rest of it all orangey. Really low in the sky, too.
The moon's been mint this year so far. Was sat in the Milburn for the Blackburn game last weekend and a full moon was just peeking over the top of the East Stand. That was good too.
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Moon is f***ing intense tonight, for anyone else who loves that lunar b******.
Seriously, did anyone see it last night? Spooky as owt.
Aye, twas lush.
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Yorkie, for some reason you remind me of this guy; :lol:
Yosemitebear Mountain Giant Double Rainbow 1-8-10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI#)
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Get in your car, find a place away from street lights, look north and observe the Aurora Borealis. VERY VISIBLE tonight.
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In Principle Skinner's kitchen.
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Principal Skinner :snod:
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Alnwick/Morpeth and further North. Some have said they've seen it as far south as Whitley Bay too. :lol:
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The Moon was f***ing class last weekend.
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Life spotted on Venus: Russian scientist
MOSCOW: Several objects resembling living beings were detected on photographs taken by a Russian landing probe in 1982 during a Venus mission, says an article published in the Solar System Research magazine.
Leonid Ksanfomaliti of the Space Research Institute of Russia's Academy of Sciences published a research that analysed the photographs from the Venus mission made by a Soviet landing probe, Venus-13, in 1982.
The photographs feature several objects, which Ksanfomaliti said, resembled a "disk", a "black flap" and a "scorpion".
All of them "emerge, fluctuate and disappear", the scientist said, referring to their changing location on different photographs and traces on the ground.
"What if we forget about the current theories about the non-existence of life on Venus, let's boldly suggest that the objects' morphological features would allow us to say that they are living," the magazine quoted Ksanfomaliti as saying.
No data proving the existence of life on Venus, where the ground temperature is 464 degrees Celsius, has ever been found.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-01-21/science/30650231_1_venus-mission-russian-scientist-landing (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-01-21/science/30650231_1_venus-mission-russian-scientist-landing)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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:yuno:
Y U NO SHOW PICTURES
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How can there be no pictures with that article? :lol:
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I think the images on this page are from it:
http://www.mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm (http://www.mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm)
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Sounds a bit too "face on Mars" for my liking.
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The Moon was f***ing class last weekend.
Jeez, why don't you just marry it?
Earth Sheild/Asteroid defence
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16651642 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16651642)
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Unreal sights to be honest. Visible as far south as Yorkshire.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/23/northern-lights-photographs?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/23/northern-lights-photographs?newsfeed=true)
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Get in your car, find a place away from street lights, look north and observe the Aurora Borealis. VERY VISIBLE tonight.
Apparently it's supposed to be the same tonight as well.
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Get in your car, find a place away from street lights, look north and observe the Aurora Borealis. VERY VISIBLE tonight.
Apparently it's supposed to be the same tonight as well.
Could be lasting right through to the weekend. Canny.
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Has anyone been to a public viewing at the Kielder Observatory, before? Considering taking my father-in-law along to one of those nights, in a couple of weeks.
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Has anyone been to a public viewing at the Kielder Observatory, before? Considering taking my father-in-law along to one of those nights, in a couple of weeks.
Never knew that even existed, sounds class!
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Here you go :)
http://www.kielderobservatory.org/ (http://www.kielderobservatory.org/)
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I do this every night with your son (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFKvgo7q6lw#ws)
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(http://i.imgur.com/shwpE.jpg)
Look at the lovely blue haze of atmosphere protecting us. :smitten:
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Line up our planet against the likes of Mercury, Venus and Mars... it's f***ing gorgeous like. Pisses all over them b******s in terms of aesthetics. What's Mars got? A nipple, and that's it.
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Or those two dirty great big storms that threaten our very existence :scared:
:D
Where's that photo from? Doesn't look real (four stripes vertically across).
Think it might be from a computer game, actually. Can't remember which one.
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Isn;t it the most recent photo? ???
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I do this every night with your son (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFKvgo7q6lw#ws)
pure, uncut, colombian genius
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(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/bd4f3bb829.jpg)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread809555/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread809555/pg1)
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Sweet.
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"Water World" planet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17117030 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17117030)
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POOT you've just reminded me...
My wife is starting to get into astronomy photography (is that what it's called?), and was wondering where to start in terms of cameras/filters/etc.
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Astrophotography :D
Just using a camera and lens?
I think hooked up to a telescope, she's been going to 'NASTRO' and she's really taken an interest in it. Married a year this coming June. :lol:
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Cheers, POOT. I'll pass that on.
In other news...
The Yomiuri Shimbun
It may be possible to travel to space in an elevator as early as 2050, a major construction company has announced.
Obayashi Corp., headquartered in Tokyo, on Monday unveiled a project to build a gigantic elevator that would transport passengers to a station 36,000 kilometers above the Earth.
For the envisaged project, the company would utilize carbon nanotubes, which are 20 times stronger than steel, to produce cables for the space elevator.
The idea of space elevators has been described in several science-fiction novels. Obayashi, however, believes it is possible to construct one in the real world thanks to carbon nanotubes, which were invented in the 1990s, the company said.
Some other organizations have also been studying the development of space elevators, such as the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
In Obayashi's project, a cable would be stretched up to 96,000 kilometers, or about one-fourth of the distance between the Earth and the moon. One end of the cable would be anchored at a spaceport on the ground, while the other would be fitted with a counterweight.
The terminal station would house laboratories and living space. The car could carry up to 30 people to the station at 200 kilometers per hour, which would mean a 7-1/2 day trip to reach the station. Magnetic linear motors are one possible means of propulsion for the car, according to Obayashi.
Solar power generation facilities would also be set up around the terminal station to transmit power to the ground, the company added.
Whether carbon nanotubes can be mass-produced economically enough and whether various organizations from around the world can work together are two key issues facing the development of the space elevator, according to the company.
"At this moment, we cannot estimate the cost for the project," an Obayashi official said. "However, we'll try to make steady progress so that it won't end just up as simply a dream."
(http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/photo/DY20120222101531743L0.jpg)
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I can see it. Very cool.
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Lass says that the ISS flew past them at one point too.
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Any good stargazing apps for Android?
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Any good stargazing apps for Android?
google skymap
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(http://lpod.wikispaces.com/file/view/LPOD-Mar19-12.jpg/312225788/LPOD-Mar19-12.jpg)
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f***ing class
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Holy s***. What a fantastic picture.
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f***ing hell that's like when you shoot the moon on GTA Vice City and it goes HUGE.
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Holy s***. What a fantastic picture.
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Wow :kasper:
I know this will sound stupid, like, but is that real? And if so, how?
I mean I would cake my sell if I looked out of the window and seen that.
EDIT: It's obviously real, but f***ing hell man, i'm amazed :lol:
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Some ridic shots of the Northern Lights on the end of Newsnight this evening. Sensational, definitely going to have to go and see it sometime.
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Some ridic shots of the Northern Lights on the end of Newsnight this evening. Sensational, definitely going to have to go and see it sometime.
I was looking at it t'other week. Was thinking of going up on one of the islands off the north coast of Scotland, not sure if it'd be far north enough but would be an epic trip up.
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(http://lpod.wikispaces.com/file/view/LPOD-Mar19-12.jpg/312225788/LPOD-Mar19-12.jpg)
I don't understand how the moon can ever look that big.
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Perspective.
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Yeah... it looks like the photo's been taken from just outside the building... but presumably it's been taken from much further away where the building and the Moon look similar in size? Is that it? :lol: I'm thick with this sort of thing.
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Optical illusion
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It's only a few hundred yards away chilling out on top of the tree, of course it's going to look big from that close.
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Depends on the time your looking at it and what angle your looking at it from doesn't it, or something like that?
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It's only a few hundred yards away chilling out on top of the tree, of course it's going to look big from that close.
omg rly?
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Captivating interactive animation of the scale of stuff in the universe:
http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white (http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white)
Including your new favourite part of the universe: Gomez's Hamburger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomez's_Hamburger).
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*bump*
Clicky that last linky. It really is so amazing, I'm :giggs: -ing myself. With a cucumber :naughty:
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Captivating interactive animation of the scale of stuff in the universe:
http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white (http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white)
Including your new favourite part of the universe: Gomez's Hamburger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomez's_Hamburger).
Absolutely amazing.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/542036_10150649563635658_270212045657_9803539_1354481717_n.jpg)
Jupiter and its moon Io. The red dot is a volcano on the moon's surface and the blue cloud is the volcano's emissions
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That's no moon...
(Actually looks a bit like when the Death Star is waiting to orbit around Yavin so the moon with the rebel base on comes into range)
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Pretty certain that's a still from 2010: The Year We Make Contact, when the Russian guy gets zapped.
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SEE THE SUN IN A WHOLE NEW LIGHT: BIG PIC
(http://news.discovery.com/space/2012/04/13/easter-sun-zoom.jpg)
April 13, 2012 -- Astrophotographer Alan Friedman captured this gorgeous portrait of the sun on April 7 from his home in Buffalo, NY, using a backyard solar telescope and a new Grasshopper CCD camera by Point Grey Research. Viewed in a wavelength emitted by hydrogen alpha (Ha) the sun's surface details become visible, showing the complex texture of our home star's true face.
Hydrogen is the most abundant element found on the sun. The sun's "surface" and the layer just above it -- the photosphere and chromosphere, respectively -- are regions where atomic hydrogen exists profusely in upper-state form, and it's these absorption layers that hydrogen alpha imaging reveals in detail.
The "furry" texture of the sun's surface is caused by structures called "spicules" -- vertical tongues of superheated plasma that flare up from the photosphere. When observed inside the sun's disk, the darker horizontal structure of spicules are known as "fibrils." Plasma accelerated in spicules can travel vertically up to 55,000 mph and reach 3,000 miles (4,830 kilometers) in altitude before fizzling out -- fibrils, on the other hand, appear somewhat less dynamic. There's an estimated 100,000 spicules distributed across the face of the sun at any one time.
The dark regions on the left hemisphere are solar flares surrounding active magnetic regions -- a.k.a. sunspots, cooler zones where magnetic fields are welling up from deep within the sun. The rising fields prevent convection from taking place in those localized areas, which are often many times the size of Earth. Flares can occur around sunspots when magnetic fields snap, sending solar energy hurtling outwards.
Prominences can be seen leaping into the sun's atmosphere along the limb. Again, these are magnetically-formed structures that suspend solar plasma tens -- sometimes hundreds! -- of thousands of miles upwards.
See more photos by Alan on his blog here. (http://alanfriedman.tumblr.com/)
http://news.discovery.com/space/big-pic-sun-hydrogen-alpha-disk-120413.html (http://news.discovery.com/space/big-pic-sun-hydrogen-alpha-disk-120413.html)
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That's no moon...
(Actually looks a bit like when the Death Star is waiting to orbit around Yavin so the moon with the rebel base on comes into range)
... funny you say that:
Mimas (one of Saturn's Satellites) looks just like...
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/HgWJkJmAudxsx8gjSyJcJjNao1_400.jpg)
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Captivating interactive animation of the scale of stuff in the universe:
http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white (http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white)
Including your new favourite part of the universe: Gomez's Hamburger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomez's_Hamburger).
love the music
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Captivating interactive animation of the scale of stuff in the universe:
http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white (http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white)
Including your new favourite part of the universe: Gomez's Hamburger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomez's_Hamburger).
:kasper: Shows you how insignificant we are compared to the grand scheme of things.
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Captivating interactive animation of the scale of stuff in the universe:
http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white (http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white)
Including your new favourite part of the universe: Gomez's Hamburger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomez's_Hamburger).
love the music
I was surprised that all the human beings on Earth put together were so tall. Also, Minecraft.
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That's no moon...
(Actually looks a bit like when the Death Star is waiting to orbit around Yavin so the moon with the rebel base on comes into range)
... funny you say that:
Mimas (one of Saturn's Satellites) looks just like...
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/HgWJkJmAudxsx8gjSyJcJjNao1_400.jpg)
First film came out three years before the first close-up photographs of it were taken :snod:
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Meteor :D
LiveLeak.com - Meteor lights up the night sky (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b4_1336187472)
LiveLeak.com - Meteor lights up the night sky (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b4_1336187472)
LiveLeak.com - Meteor lights up the night sky (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b4_1336187472)
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The European Southern Observatory has found a planet sitting right in the middle of the “Goldilocks zone.” Planet Gliese 667Cc isn’t too far away from its star, which would make it to cold for life, and it isn’t too close, which would make it to hot. Researchers have analyzed the new data and believe that the planet sits in the “habitable zone” and could support life.
Steven Vogt, an astronomer from the University of California, said:
“It’s the Holy Grail of exo-planet research to find a planet orbiting around a star at the right distance so it´s not too close where it would lose all its water and not too far where it would freeze… It’s right there in the habitable zone – there’s no question or discussion about it. It is not on the edge. It is right in there.”
The Telegraph reports that Gliese 667Cc orbits a red dwarf star that is about 22 light years away from earth. Red dwarf stars are usually surrounded by planets called gas giants, but researchers say that Gliese 667Cc is a solid planet with more than four times the mass of Earth.
Researchers at the University Göttingen and University of California believe that the “holy grail” of planets receives about the same amount of energy from its star than the earth gets from the sun. This means that the temperature on Gliese 667Cc could be similar to the temperature on earth.
Astronomers have found more than 760 exoplanets since 1995, but only four are believed to be in the habitable zone. Guillem Anglada-Escudé, of University Göttingen, Germany, said that astronomers are getting a better look at what’s beyond our solar system due to modern technology like the High Accuracy Radial Planetary Searcher (HARPS) telescope. Anglada-Escude said:
”With the advent of new generation of instruments, researchers will be able to survey many dwarf stars for similar planets and eventually look for spectroscopic signatures of life in one of these worlds.”
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/226415/planet-gliese-667cc-can-support-life-according-to-new-data/#MepDwGi4vUVUeDe6.99 (http://www.inquisitr.com/226415/planet-gliese-667cc-can-support-life-according-to-new-data/#MepDwGi4vUVUeDe6.99)
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Transit of Venus soon, sounds like the name of a very pretentious prog rock album.
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JAMES Doohan - better known as Scotty from Star Trek - spent his acting career whizzing through the cosmos. Gordon Cooper was one of America's famous Mercury Seven astronauts. And Bob Shrake spent his working life anonymously helping to send NASA's high-tech spacecraft to other planets.
Now the three men who made space their lives are also making space their final resting place. Their ashes - and those of about 300 others - were aboard SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket that blasted into orbit as part of an in-space for-profit burial business.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/beam-them-up-star-trek-actor-astronaut-ashes-blast-into-orbit-20120523-1z5h3.html#ixzz1vhOs3m5x (http://www.theage.com.au/world/beam-them-up-star-trek-actor-astronaut-ashes-blast-into-orbit-20120523-1z5h3.html#ixzz1vhOs3m5x)
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Twisst ISS alerts @twisst
The Dragon spacecraft will fly-by the #ISS in about 20 minutes. Watch live video from the ISS: http://bit.ly/hlQAwb (http://bit.ly/hlQAwb) #DragonFlyby
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Well that was s***
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Russia's space agency, Roscosmos, has publicly confirmed its plans to create a permanent habitation on the Moon. In a talk at the Global Space Exploration Conference, Roscosmos head Vladimir Popovkin said that "we’re not talking about repeating what mankind achieved 40 years ago... "We’re talking about establishing permanent bases." This isn't the first we've heard about Russia's Moon base. In March, a leaked Roscosmos road map suggested that it could send a manned mission for that purpose sometime after 2025. Popovkin has also previously said his agency was in talks with potential European and US partners for such a base.
While NASA is planning a manned asteroid mission but otherwise scaling down its goals, Russia's program is incredibly ambitious, allegedly including a manned Mars mission and additional new space stations. Russia also currently provides all transportation to the International Space Station. Other countries, however, have expressed interest in lunar exploration as well. A top official from Japanese agency JAXA said that "we are looking at the Moon as our next target for human exploration."
- http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/23/3039285/russia-roscosmos-space-agency-moon-base-plan (http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/23/3039285/russia-roscosmos-space-agency-moon-base-plan)
Russia’s Federal Space Agency Roscosmos has submitted to the government a draft of a space exploration strategy until 2030, Kommersant business daily reported on Tuesday.
The ambitious program prioritizes a step-by-step modernization of the space industry, development of new spacecraft including space shuttles, and active exploration of solar planets.
“The goal of the strategy is to ensure that the Russian space industry maintains its world-level standards and solidifies its position among the top three space powers,” Kommersant cited the text of the document.
According to the draft, Russia must increase its share of the global space market to 10 percent by 2030, compared to only 0.5 percent in 2011.
The Russian space industry must be able to build satellites and spacecraft using only domestically-manufactured components, especially electronics, by 2020.
By 2030, the Russian orbital satellite clusters must meet up to 95 percent of the domestic demand for services in civilian and defense sectors.
Russia is planning to carry out several space exploration missions, including a piloted flight to the Moon with landing on its surface and sending probes to Venus and Jupiter.
“In cooperation with foreign partners Roscosmos plans to deploy a network of permanent research stations on Mars,” the document says.
Russia will also intensify its efforts to remove “space junk” orbiting Earth and to protect our planet from asteroids and comets.
- http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120313/172134725.html (http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120313/172134725.html)
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Russia has nuclear powered space vehicles proposals on the drawing board apparently...Scheduled for 2020. Will try and find it.
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Russia has nuclear powered space vehicles proposals on the drawing board apparently...Scheduled for 2020. Will try and find it.
All the major agencies have been working on nuclear powered space travel for years have they not?
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"Today has been discovered a new Earth crossing asteroid that will transit near the Earth.
On day 28th May 2012 at 14.57 UT will be at only 0.00038 A.U. from us.
Its diameter is about 26 meters. It will be of magnitude 12."
www.pierpaoloricci.it/news_eng.htm (http://www.pierpaoloricci.it/news_eng.htm)
BTW: 0.00038 A.U. = 35,000 miles :scared:
Is that big enough to do damage?
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:lol: Kinda bothers me that they only just found it.
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Hope to god it hits Glasgow when we're off to the mother in law's up there. Would make bank holiday Monday much more bearable knowing the place had been obliterated.
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I think it's amazing they can see something that small (relatively) at over 35,000 miles away. Canny pair of binoculars that.
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Sure I read it was something daft like 40 a year 'near' misses. :lol:
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Transit of Venus tonight.
Weather is crap in the North-East so we'll probably not get to 'see' it.
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We don't see it until 5.30am anyway, you can track it's path good here
http://sunaeon.com/venustransit/ (http://sunaeon.com/venustransit/)
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http://venustransit.nasa.gov/transitofvenus/ (http://venustransit.nasa.gov/transitofvenus/)
^ stream it here if you're interested it's happening now
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Astronomers at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) are fleshing out the picture of our home galaxy, the Milky Way, observing for the first time enormous gamma ray jets extending above and below the galactic plane, generated by the massive black hole in the galaxy’s center.
The jets, made of high-energy gamma rays, are the residue of the black hole’s appetite for stars and clouds of interstellar gas. Associate Professor of Astronomy Douglas Finkbeiner said that though much of the matter and energy caught in a black hole’s enormous gravitational pull gets sucked in, about 10 percent does get flung out in the form of streams of extremely high energy.
Black holes are thought to be created by the end-of-life explosion of massive stars, those several times the size of our own sun. Those explosions squeeze the stellar nucleus until it collapses on itself, creating a gravitational pull so strong that past a certain point, called the event horizon, not even light can escape.
Once formed, black holes continue to gobble up matter, growing larger and larger. It is thought that many galaxies have massive black holes at their center, with the one in the middle of the Milky Way thought to be the size of 4 million suns.
The Milky Way is a slowly rotating spiral galaxy containing an almost inconceivable number of stars, between 200 billion and 400 billion. A 2010 discovery by a team led by Finkbeiner showed that there are twin gamma ray bubbles on either side of the galaxy’s rotating disk, also caused by the central black hole, though in this case by the swirling disk of matter that surrounds it called an accretion disk. The newfound gamma ray jets, each 27,000 light-years long and tilted at 15 degrees, add to the emerging picture.
Gamma rays are the highest-energy form of radiation, found at one end of the electromagnetic spectrum. Low-energy radio waves are at the other end and in between are other familiar forms of radiation, including X-rays, microwaves, and visible light.
The research, published in The Astrophysical Journal, was co-authored by Finkbeiner and CfA astronomer Meng Su.
Astronomers had long theorized that there were such gamma ray jets in our own galaxy because they had observed similar phenomena in other galaxies. The Milky Way’s jets are extremely faint, Finkbeiner said, an indication that the galactic black hole is not very active — and hasn’t been for thousands of years.
“As far as jets go, this is a faint jet,” Finkbeiner said. “This is a pathetic jet.”
It is thought that galactic black holes go through phases of higher and lower activity, sparked by their consumption of stars and gas. If a particularly large cloud of gas or accumulation of stars gets ingested, the black hole would fire up again, Finkbeiner said.
The study results from an analysis of data provided by NASA’s Fermi Gamma Ray Space Telescope, launched in 2008. Specifically, it comes from the satellite’s Large Area Telescope, data from which is posted on the Internet for scientists to use. Finkbeiner and colleagues downloaded the data from NASA and crunched the numbers. It’s an example, he said, of the benefit of making such data public.
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Gamma rays? How long before we get a Hulk?
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link for that article?
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http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/a-milky-way-cooling-its-jets/ (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/a-milky-way-cooling-its-jets/)
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boom, ta.
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Just a quick question, how can a black hole vary its activity?
The only thing I can think of is it hasn't absorbed/consumed anything for a while due to distance of incoming matter...
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I imagine, with my limited knowledge, the size of a black hole changes considerably during its lifespan.
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Just a quick question, how can a black hole vary its activity?
The only thing I can think of is it hasn't absorbed/consumed anything for a while due to distance of incoming matter...
Amount of stuff falling in, gravitational influence of other black holes.
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/08/article-2170422-13F954DD000005DC-650_964x1056.jpg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/08/article-2170422-13F9550C000005DC-272_964x769.jpg)
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Black Holes dissipate in accordance with the 2nd Law Of Thermodynamics via virtual particles (Hawking Radiation). It's thought there are primordial black holes the size of neutrons. My senior thesis used one oscillating through a star as a mechanism for Gamma Ray Bursts. The model turned out ot be utter s***.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18861463 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18861463)
Soon.
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A Good Read
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/07/18/how-big-is-the-entire-universe/ (http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/07/18/how-big-is-the-entire-universe/)
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I don't think I understood that. Where he says the universe is at least 14 trillion light years in diameter, is that only *if* it curves back on itself?
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The cause of this unexpected interest in Enceladus – first observed by William Herschel in 1789 and named after one of the children of the Earth goddess Gaia – stems from a discovery made by the robot spacecraft Cassini, which has been in orbit of Saturn for the past eight years. The $3bn probe has shown that the little moon not only has an atmosphere, but that geysers of water are erupting from its surface into space. Even more astonishing has been its most recent discovery, which has shown that these geysers contain complex organic compounds, including propane, ethane, and acetylene.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2012/7/27/1343389255580/enceladus-saturn-moon-sur-008.jpg)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/29/alien-life-enceladus-saturn-moon (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/29/alien-life-enceladus-saturn-moon)
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Nasa says the big robot rover it is sending to Mars looks in excellent shape for its Monday (GMT) landing.
The vehicle, known as Curiosity, was launched from Earth in November last year and is now nearing the end of a 570-million-km journey across space.
To reach its intended touch-down zone in a deep equatorial crater, the machine must enter the atmosphere at a very precise point on the sky.
Engineers told reporters on Thursday that they were close to a bulls-eye.
A slight course correction - the fourth since launch - was instigated last Saturday, and the latest analysis indicates Curiosity will be no more than a kilometre from going straight down its planned "keyhole".
The team's confidence is such that it may pass up the opportunity to make a further correction on Friday.
"We are about to land a small compact car on the surface with a trunk-load of instruments. This is a pretty amazing feat getting ready to happen. It's exciting, it's daring - but it's fantastic," said Doug McCuistion, the head of Nasa's Mars programme.
Curiosity - also known as the Mars Science laboratory (MSL) - is the biggest, most sophisticated Mars rover yet.
It will study the rocks inside Gale Crater, one of the deepest holes on Mars, for signs that the planet may once have supported microbial life.
The $2.5bn mission is due to touch down at 05:31 GMT (06:31 BST) Monday 6 August; 22:31 PDT, Sunday 5 August.
It will be a totally automated landing.
Engineers here at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, can only watch and wait.
The vast distance between Mars and Earth means there is a 13-minute lag in communications, making real-time intervention impossible.
Nasa has had to abandon the bouncing airbag approach to making soft landings.
This technique was used to great effect on the three previous rovers - Sojourner, Spirit and Opportunity.
But at nearly a tonne, Curiosity is simply too heavy to be supported by inflated cushions.
Instead, the mission team has devised a rocket-powered, hovering crane to lower the rover to the surface in the final moments of its descent.
Adam Steltzner has led this work for Nasa. He said: "It looks a little bit crazy. I promise you it is the least crazy of the methods you could use to land a rover the size of Curiosity on Mars, and we've become quite fond of it - and we're fairly confident that Sunday night will be a good night for us."
The team is also keeping a sharp eye on the Martian weather and any atmospheric conditions that might interfere with the descent manoeuvres.
It is the equivalent of August also on Mars right now, meaning Gale Crater at its position just inside the southern hemisphere is coming out of winter and moving towards spring.
It is the time of year when winds can kick up huge clouds of dust, and a big storm was spotted this week about 1,000km from the landing site. But Nasa expects this storm to dissipate long before landing day.
The first black-and-white images of the surface taken by Curiosity should be returned to Earth in the first hours after touch down, but the mission team do not intend to rush into exploration.
For one thing, the rover has a plutonium battery that should give it far greater longevity than the solar-panelled power systems on previous vehicles.
"This is a very complicated beast," said Pete Theisinger, Curiosity's project manager.
"The speech I made to the team is to recognize that on Sunday night at [22:32 PDT], we will have a priceless asset that we have placed on the surface of another planet that could last a long time if we operate it correctly, and so we will be as cautious as hell about what we do with it."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19107577 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19107577)
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That's great and that, but when are we going to start looking seriously at stuff that isn't Mars?
We all agree it's not a very interesting planet, so why aren't we after landing stuff on Europa or Enceladus? They seem much more promising.
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That's great and that, but when are we going to start looking seriously at stuff that isn't Mars?
We all agree it's not a very interesting planet, so why aren't we after landing stuff on Europa or Enceladus? They seem much more promising.
Saturn takes f***ing years to get to, though I reckon Enceladus will be the new place to look. More possible of life on there than anywhere else in the solar system.
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Question?
Do you honestly, hand on heart, think we'll ever find/make contact with another intelligent lifeform?
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Personally, no.
Apart from the sheer ridiculous scale of the universe, there's also the timescale to contend with. By the time we see evidence of a civilization at the other side of the galaxy (or they of us), they'll probably be long gone by the time we could get there, or even reply.
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There's no way we'll be able to travel fast enough to leave the solar system let alone visit planets in the 'goldilocks zone' of other stars. Distance is just too much.
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What if they find us though?
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Debating whether to get up sharp and watch the Curiosity landing on Monday morning (think it's 630am GMT?) Got a long sleepover shift starting at 230pm, so it would make it a long day. :-/ Decisions, decisions.
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http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html (http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html)
:whistle:
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http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html (http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html)
:whistle:
What the actual f***
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WHAT HAPPENS ON EARTH NOW AFFECTS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, SO THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT!
:lol:
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http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html (http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html)
:whistle:
What the actual f***
Absolute crackerjacks!
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Brilliant, innit. Love how it's all in CAPS. I assume that's for dramatic effect or the Plaeidians really like shouting.
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This also happens to be the message from the Pleiadians channeled by Micah The Guardian,
:lol:
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http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html (http://psychedelicadventure.blogspot.in/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-at-olympics-on-4th.html)
:whistle:
:lol: How'd you find that?
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Popped up on a psychedelic FB group I 'like'.
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Coverage of the landing starts on here soon:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html)
We're about two hours away from the landing according to that. Will.I.Am is on now :lol:
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Coverage of the landing starts on here soon:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html)
We're about two hours away from the landing according to that. Will.I.Am is on now :lol:
:thup:
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Pretty exciting stuff considering how crappy the coverage is.
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They got really excited for what seemed like a very predictable result, everything was going perfect. Must take an incredible amount of devotion to go through with this.
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I bet that Asian girl doesn't pay for s***.
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It's gotta be awesome to accomplish something like that, though.
Hope I'm alive when we send a person.
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This is utterly f***ing awesome. :D
Pictures sent back as well. In this- wheel of rover, the surface of Mars and the sun setting.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8bjq3pzYo1qz7wfjo1_500.png)
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Woke up and watched on NASA TV. Terrific. :coolsmiley:
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You can rewatch this on the Xbox btw.
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:cool:
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http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/interactives/edlcuriosity/index-2.html (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/interactives/edlcuriosity/index-2.html)
:sweetjesus:
(http://i.imgur.com/NIe3O.jpg)
:lol: We put that on a planet. Holy s***.
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Thats much bigger then i expected but then again it has to carry power supplies and kit for experiments.
Mankind can be fantastic when it wants to.
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First pictures just in from Mars landing:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZrkNh.jpg)
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First pictures just in from Mars landing:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZrkNh.jpg)
:bluestar: Class
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First pictures just in from Mars landing:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZrkNh.jpg)
:lol:
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(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/484073_4335532197154_1892773036_n.jpg)
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189555_4392646814284_531969645_n.jpg)
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(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8433/7740593720_46aa0eea4c_o.jpg)
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Still blows me away to think that there is something man made on another planet. It's just incredible.
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Needs this photoshopped into it.
(http://smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net/806D5E/wordpress-L/images/totalrecall09-e1287688768273.jpg)
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:lol: Had so many nightmares about that scene as a little'un.
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(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8433/7740593720_46aa0eea4c_o.jpg)
New desktop background for me, I reckon! It'll do until we get some Hi Res colour shots. :)
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:lol: Had so many nightmares about that scene as a little'un.
That film was rated 18 IIRC.
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Needs this photoshopped into it.
(http://smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net/806D5E/wordpress-L/images/totalrecall09-e1287688768273.jpg)
Looks like a good clubbing night.
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(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8433/7740593720_46aa0eea4c_o.jpg)
Incredible picture IMO.
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Really is amazing when you think about just how far away that is, how heavy that piece of kit is, and the fact that they can land it pretty much where they want to.
Easy to dismiss or overlook but it really is an incredible achievement.
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Is this a new location they have landed in or a place that has been scouted by previous rovers?
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Already scouted the general area I think but this one is in a better place with more functionality than before
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Really is amazing when you think about just how far away that is, how heavy that piece of kit is, and the fact that they can land it pretty much where they want to.
Easy to dismiss or overlook but it really is an incredible achievement.
The process to land that tank is f***ing incredible.
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Really is amazing when you think about just how far away that is, how heavy that piece of kit is, and the fact that they can land it pretty much where they want to.
Easy to dismiss or overlook but it really is an incredible achievement.
The process to land that tank is f***ing incredible.
In or around a metric tonne in weight (basically a supermini). Has enough power to last around 14 years. Just going to be up there, f***ing around drilling s***, testing it and sending the information back while life back here goes on without a second though.
People will be born, people will die and it'll be up there getting on with it's business all the while.
Would have been awesome to have touched it before it left (knowing it will never return to this planet).
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So whats special about this location, have they detected water etc ?
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No but it's in a basin with a large steady smooth climb into higher rock formations.
Basically if all goes according to plan it'll be able to test various levels of rock and dust with hopefully some of the lower stuff having been washed down from the higher stuff in a previous life.
It's the closest they can get to actually archaeology.
I think it's pretty clear water was there along time ago, and digging down in this type of location should/will prove it (or not)
Exciting times
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Exciting indeed.
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(https://p.twimg.com/AzzcFXACMAAI9FL.jpg:large)
Think it may be an old photo, actually. Still, sunset/rise on Mars.
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It's Tatooine :frantic:
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Awesome picture.
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(https://p.twimg.com/AzzcFXACMAAI9FL.jpg:large)
Think it may be an old photo, actually. Still, sunset/rise on Mars.
Looks a canny beach if they ever transport humans.
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Curiosity News Briefing at 6pm if anyone is interested. I was reading earlier that they would maybe have some colour photos at the end of Sol3, may mention that likelihood of that.
http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl (http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl)
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It's Tatooine :frantic:
Missing a sun :(
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It's Tatooine :frantic:
Missing a sun :(
Thought of that after I posted :whatdidido:
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(https://p.twimg.com/AzzcFXACMAAI9FL.jpg:large)
Think it may be an old photo, actually. Still, sunset/rise on Mars.
Looks a canny beach if they ever transport humans.
Thats so weird..
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Aye I love that picture, so surreal. Find it hard to accept that's a man made object millions of miles away taking a photograph we've all taken before, but its on another f***ing planet! It feels like it should be a massive deal but everyone just takes it in their stride like its no thing. Odd.
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May have been posted but you folks should download this, it's absolutely brilliant, could spend hours on it.
http://www.stellarium.org/ (http://www.stellarium.org/)
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Immense, Ted. Gonna pass that on to my father-in-law, who is massively into astronomy. Should be right up his street, as he can't get out and about as much as he used to. :thup:
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A large part of the earth remains unexplored. The depths of the oceans, the expanse of the Amazon jungle, large caves etc. We're still discovering new species all the time.
Is Mars really the next step when we don't even know everything about our own planet yet?
Yes. End of the day we came from bacteria travelling on a comet hitting the earth, that same bacteria could have landed elsewhere, not evolved at all showing how all life on earth started. Not only is this magnificent, it also gives the mackems something to look down on for the first time in their lives.
Thats not been proved, it just one idea. If we did originally come from bacteria that arrived on the back of a comet, how did that bacteria become life and where did it come from???
That theory isn't really an answer.
:thup:
Bacteria would have 'become life' through evolution though. Or am I missing your meaning?
Think he's suggesting that Bacterium are a cosmic life form (if that terminology makes sense). Evolution can't have happened from nothing, Maybe bacteria exist throughout space, wouldn't be surprising really considering some of the places on earth they exist, like lava or on the sea floor around hydrothermal vents.
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A large part of the earth remains unexplored. The depths of the oceans, the expanse of the Amazon jungle, large caves etc. We're still discovering new species all the time.
Is Mars really the next step when we don't even know everything about our own planet yet?
Yes. End of the day we came from bacteria travelling on a comet hitting the earth, that same bacteria could have landed elsewhere, not evolved at all showing how all life on earth started. Not only is this magnificent, it also gives the mackems something to look down on for the first time in their lives.
Thats not been proved, it just one idea. If we did originally come from bacteria that arrived on the back of a comet, how did that bacteria become life and where did it come from???
That theory isn't really an answer.
:thup:
Bacteria would have 'become life' through evolution though. Or am I missing your meaning?
Think he's suggesting that Bacterium are a cosmic life form (if that terminology makes sense). Evolution can't have happened from nothing, Maybe bacteria exist throughout space, wouldn't be surprising really considering some of the places on earth they exist, like lava or on the sea floor around hydrothermal vents.
This is what we cant prove, we cant prove either way if bacteria or the basic compounds of life did actually eventually clump together to create basic forms. We dont have the millions of years of failures and success of nature.
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Some links for intros on the concepts talked about here. Sure some have found them out already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis) - idea about life forming from a primordial soup here on Earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia) - idea about life coming from other planets/asteroids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolution) - an idea about the timelines we're really talking about, almost incomprehensible in scale
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I'll just link it because it's a big pic.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/676004main_pia16051-fullportal_full.jpg (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/676004main_pia16051-fullportal_full.jpg)
Not as big as the full resolution one, mind. Which is 29000 x 4500 :lol:
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Why the blacked out bits?
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It's a panoramic photo, so just bits of photo that either haven't been received from Curiosity, or haven't been put together properly. Takes a while for the pictures to be received as they are first saved on a hard drive on the Rover then sent down. I'm guessing there'll be a much more complete image.
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So, aliens?
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:lol: Aye
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The photos make it look frighteningly hospitable.
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Joking aside, it is incredbile. I know it sounds daft, but I just didn't expect it to look that 'normal'.
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The photos make it look frighteningly hospitable.
Aye, if it wasn't for the lack of water or oxygen I'd be straight up there.
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Mars 360
http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/mars-greeleyhaven2/tour.swf (http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/mars-greeleyhaven2/tour.swf)
:cool:
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http://www.360pano.eu/show/?id=731 (http://www.360pano.eu/show/?id=731)
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http://www.360pano.eu/show/?id=731 (http://www.360pano.eu/show/?id=731)
To see picture from another planet, and such good quality, is just amazing. That doesn't even get on the news, the people who made that possible, should be getting much more credit then they currently are.
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Ha, look at that silly rover. :alone:
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Utterly amazing that, great image and just unbelievable that it's up there.
I know that we've had rovers up there since the 70's but it still blows my mind if I'm honest.
One of the coolest things I can think off.
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http://www.360pano.eu/show/?id=731 (http://www.360pano.eu/show/?id=731)
Amazing. :)
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/539103_460326777321672_2024148169_n.jpg)
:lol:
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:lol:
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No doubt Parky and womblemaster have a theory about how humans live on Mars in the future because Earth has been destroyed and with the aid of time travel are using these flying saucers to come back to Earth before it was destroyed.
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Womblemaster is definitely from a different f***ing planet, like.
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Does he still bang on about christianity?
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No doubt Parky and womblemaster have a theory about how humans live on Mars in the future because Earth has been destroyed and with the aid of time travel are using these flying saucers to come back to Earth before it was destroyed.
There are "apparently" pyramid type structures on Mars
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If all this is happening in the future why aren't they here?
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No doubt Parky and womblemaster have a theory about how humans live on Mars in the future because Earth has been destroyed and with the aid of time travel are using these flying saucers to come back to Earth before it was destroyed.
There are "apparently" pyramid type structures on Mars
:lol: There are some on Earth too... they're called mountains.
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Careful lad. That kind of reasoning can cause Womble wobbles.
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No doubt Parky and womblemaster have a theory about how humans live on Mars in the future because Earth has been destroyed and with the aid of time travel are using these flying saucers to come back to Earth before it was destroyed.
There are "apparently" pyramid type structures on Mars
This is them here, apparently theres a face as well ffs :lol:
(http://web.utanet.at/mahain/cydonia.jpg)
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No doubt Parky and womblemaster have a theory about how humans live on Mars in the future because Earth has been destroyed and with the aid of time travel are using these flying saucers to come back to Earth before it was destroyed.
There are "apparently" pyramid type structures on Mars
This is them here, apparently theres a face as well ffs :lol:
(http://web.utanet.at/mahain/cydonia.jpg)
f***ing is too :frantic: :lol:
iirc the structures are in "exact" alignment with the pyramids at Giza, which by all accounts would be pretty unusual to say the least.
Might have a google for that (or contact him, although he is in the states now)
Something along those lines anyway
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Looks like a Gorilla :lol:
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No doubt Parky and womblemaster have a theory about how humans live on Mars in the future because Earth has been destroyed and with the aid of time travel are using these flying saucers to come back to Earth before it was destroyed.
There are "apparently" pyramid type structures on Mars
This is them here, apparently theres a face as well ffs :lol:
(http://web.utanet.at/mahain/cydonia.jpg)
That's Enrique Inglesias' Mole
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And the perfectly circular hole near the bottom right :kasper:
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How possible would something like this be btw, it sounds like something from a science fiction movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars)
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How possible would something like this be btw, it sounds like something from a science fiction movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars)
Just above zero. Saying all that stuff is easy, doing it in any practical sense is entirely another.
Solar radiation would present a insurmountable challenge in my book.
It is interesting that we have thought about it as a species though.
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A video that has been constructed from a collection of still images. So a timelapse basically.
It's phenomenal.
View from the ISS at Night on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/45878034)
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Really liked that video Fatwax.
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I love the bit where you see the UK near the end, all lit up.
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Canny interesting, a prepared letter in case the moon landings failed and the astronauts were stranded on the moon.
Almost brings a tear to your eye.
Apollo 11 Moon Landing Letter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRP6AyvNuV0#ws)
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TEDxCaltech - Sean Carroll - Cosmology and the Arrow of Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMaTyg8wR4Y#ws)
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Nice one Gimp, enjoyed that :thup:
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This ones a bit of a mind bender as well...re dimensions etc
TEDxBoulder - Thad Roberts - Visualizing Eleven Dimensions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSz5BjExs9o#ws)
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Complete MSL Curiosity Descent Interpolated HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJgeoHBQpFQ#ws)
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Just read that they played some guff by Will.I.Am over the speaker on the Curiosity on Mars.
Blatantly should have been Bowie.
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Will.I.Am is big mates with NASA or something. Lucky t***.
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Hopefully they're just planning on sending the t*** out in to deep space in a rocket without enough fuel to return
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni4j5K4Lz3o&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni4j5K4Lz3o&feature=player_embedded#)!
been done? giggs? soz...
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I find Krauss very listenable-to. Explains insanely complex ideas in palatable fashion. Some cheap/silly jokes but still phenomenal.
Darwin Week 2012 - Lawrence Krauss: "A Universe from Nothing" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhGubWp_d18#ws)
(he starts ~ 3:00 in if you want to skip the intro)
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284521_468439583177058_1022252955_n.jpg)
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What is that picture of?
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Looks like the Earth/Stars time lapsed like a bitch.
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Yeah 15 minutes exposure I think it was.
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amazing
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http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html)
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http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a011000/a011095/index.html (http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a011000/a011095/index.html)
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Fantastic images.
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(http://i.imgur.com/dwced.jpg)
:serious:
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Yup we are that small
Love this link, an oldie but still great
http://scaleofuniverse.com/ (http://scaleofuniverse.com/)
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(http://i.imgur.com/dwced.jpg)
:serious:
Spec of dust.
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NASA | Magnificent Eruption in Full HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrnGi-q6iWc#ws)
NASA | Dynamic Earth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujBi9Ba8hqs#ws)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19558443 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19558443)
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http://www.tgdaily.com/space-features/66107-huge-explosion-spotted-on-jupiter (http://www.tgdaily.com/space-features/66107-huge-explosion-spotted-on-jupiter)
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http://www.tgdaily.com/space-features/66107-huge-explosion-spotted-on-jupiter (http://www.tgdaily.com/space-features/66107-huge-explosion-spotted-on-jupiter)
http://www.universetoday.com/97294/viewing-alert-jupiter-may-have-been-impacted-by-a-fireball/ (http://www.universetoday.com/97294/viewing-alert-jupiter-may-have-been-impacted-by-a-fireball/)
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http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
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http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
:kasper:
That's awsome, the implications of there research could be huge.
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The rest of the galaxy will be shitting themselves. We can't get along with each other.
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WHAT MIGHT BE THE OLDEST GALAXY EVER HAS BEEN DISCOVERED
Using the Hubble Telescope, scientists have detected light from a young galaxy that was emitted when our 13.7-billion-year-old universe was just 500 million years old. This galaxy was visible from the Hubble because gravity from a massive galaxy cluster between it and Hubble acted as a lens, meaning the light from the "incredibly faint" galaxy was bent and magnified about 15 times.
Johns Hopkins astronomer Wei Zheng and colleagues discovered MACS 1149-JD in November when working on a project to find distant (and dim) galaxies using the boost from gravitational lenses. The key was determining the object’s redshift; MAC 1149-JD appeared to have a redshift of 9.6. This suggests the light from the galaxy travelled toward Hubble about 13.1 billion years ago, when the universe was 500 million years old.
At left in the image are the many galaxies of a massive cluster called MACS J1149+2223. In the upper right of the image is a partial zoom-in that shows MACS 1149-JD in more detail; a deeper zoom appears to the lower right.
-TEL
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120919135419.htm; (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120919135419.htm;) http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v489/n7416/full/nature11446.html (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v489/n7416/full/nature11446.html)
Image credit: NASA/ESA/STScI/JHU
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/528687_408288855902959_1611720999_n.jpg)
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Jesus wept.
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http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Strange how influential Star Trek has been over the last 30 years.
Hypo-sprays are pretty much being used now.
Teleportation was worked on and sort of worked on the atomic level.
Mobile phones are basically communicators.
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http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Strange how influential Star Trek has been over the last 30 years.
Hypo-sprays are pretty much being used now.
Teleportation was worked on and sort of worked on the atomic level.
Mobile phones are basically communicators.
And tri-corders.
How long before you can point your smart phone at an object and it can give you an idea of what it is...not long i reckon.
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Jesus wept.
???
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Jesus wept.
???
Just the length of time that light has teken to get to earth for us to see, how many civilistion around the universe lived and died in that time. Mind blowing.
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http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Strange how influential Star Trek has been over the last 30 years.
Hypo-sprays are pretty much being used now.
Teleportation was worked on and sort of worked on the atomic level.
Mobile phones are basically communicators.
And tri-corders.
How long before you can point your smart phone at an object and it can give you an idea of what it is...not long i reckon.
Yeah! You kinda get that now with GPS and camera apps where you can point you phone to the sky and get constellations on the screen. QR Codes too?
Actually... come to think of it ipads are basically PADDS from Star Trek!
(http://www.geekistry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/padd.gif)
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2 very strange loud bangs over Newcastle and loads of sightings of fireballs over Newcastle. Heard the noises but didn't see the fireballs. The end?
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(http://i.imgur.com/j14PY.jpg)
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2 very strange loud bangs over Newcastle and loads of sightings of fireballs over Newcastle. Heard the noises but didn't see the fireballs. The end?
Heard the bang in consett too, thought it sounded like a gas explosion or something.
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2 very strange loud bangs over Newcastle and loads of sightings of fireballs over Newcastle. Heard the noises but didn't see the fireballs. The end?
Loads of people in my area are claiming to have seen 5 shooting stars in a row.
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:lol:
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:lol:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K36kU7zZSuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K36kU7zZSuY)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHajdzl6_9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHajdzl6_9U)
Sounds like most sightings were over Northern England and Northern Ireland.
Kielder Observatory @kielder_obs
#meteor Kielder observatory reporting sighting of huge fireball, terminating in the east mag -6 to -7
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHajdzl6_9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHajdzl6_9U)
Sounds like most sightings were over Northern England and Northern Ireland.
Kielder Observatory @kielder_obs
#meteor Kielder observatory reporting sighting of huge fireball, terminating in the east mag -6 to -7
Even outer space is supported by the Magedia
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http://a.yfrog.com/img7/7503/l5tkggpuvoluavefdcaztr.mp4 (http://a.yfrog.com/img7/7503/l5tkggpuvoluavefdcaztr.mp4)
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Class!
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... it's an invasion!
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anyone got decent astro scope?
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The Horsehead Nebula, aka Barnard 33, is 1,500 light years away, in the constellation Orion. It is five light years ‘tall’ and the dark cloud has stars forming within it. It is visible because its dark dust is silhouetted against the red emission nebula IC 434, the red colour originates from the hydrogen gas within the nebula. At the lower left is the blue reflection nebula NGC 2023, surrounding a hot young star. The colours of this image combine narrowband and broadband images, recorded using three different telescopes.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377329_410446305687214_595711322_n.jpg)
Space looks mint.
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That thing is 5 light years long; it would take 5 years, travelling at the speed of f***ing light just to get from one end of that little bit to the other. Christ man, space is one giant mindfuck.
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Astronomers have discovered a 'super comet' named ISON that is so bright it will be visible in daylight when it passes Earth next year.
The small Solar System body (SSSB) is set to provide a dazzling show as it lights up the sky in November 2013, with some experts claiming it will be the brightest comet man has ever witnessed.
Named ISON because it was discovered by Russian astronomers using the International Scientific Optical Network telescope, the comet is currently very dim due to it being many hundreds of millions of kilometres away near Jupiter's orbit but will brighten when it passes within 2million km of the Sun next November.
A comet on this path is called a sungrazer and there is a chance the celestial display will be ruined by ISON breaking up when it nears the Sun.
If the comet can withstand the inner Solar System without dissipating it will appear as a bright light in the sky and will erupt jets of gas and dust.
'This is a very exciting discovery. The comet looks like it could become a very spectacular sight in the evening sky after sunset from the UK in late November and early December next year,' said Robin Scagell, vice-president of the Society for Popular Astronomy.
'Our members will be eagerly following it as it makes its first trip around the Sun and hoping to see it shining brilliantly and displaying a magnificent tail as it releases powerful jets of gas and dust.'
There may also be the opportunity for some spectacular photography of the comet from Mars, with the European Space Agency's Nick Howes tweeting: 'Comet #ISON will pass VERY close to Mars in Oct 2013, and I mean VERY close.. opportunities for lander/orbiter imaging we hope.'
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/913332-comet-15-times-brighter-than-the-moon-to-cross-night-sky-next-year (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/913332-comet-15-times-brighter-than-the-moon-to-cross-night-sky-next-year)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19728375 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19728375)
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Astronomers have discovered a 'super comet' named ISON that is so bright it will be visible in daylight when it passes Earth next year.
The small Solar System body (SSSB) is set to provide a dazzling show as it lights up the sky in November 2013, with some experts claiming it will be the brightest comet man has ever witnessed.
Named ISON because it was discovered by Russian astronomers using the International Scientific Optical Network telescope, the comet is currently very dim due to it being many hundreds of millions of kilometres away near Jupiter's orbit but will brighten when it passes within 2million km of the Sun next November.
A comet on this path is called a sungrazer and there is a chance the celestial display will be ruined by ISON breaking up when it nears the Sun.
If the comet can withstand the inner Solar System without dissipating it will appear as a bright light in the sky and will erupt jets of gas and dust.
'This is a very exciting discovery. The comet looks like it could become a very spectacular sight in the evening sky after sunset from the UK in late November and early December next year,' said Robin Scagell, vice-president of the Society for Popular Astronomy.
'Our members will be eagerly following it as it makes its first trip around the Sun and hoping to see it shining brilliantly and displaying a magnificent tail as it releases powerful jets of gas and dust.'
There may also be the opportunity for some spectacular photography of the comet from Mars, with the European Space Agency's Nick Howes tweeting: 'Comet #ISON will pass VERY close to Mars in Oct 2013, and I mean VERY close.. opportunities for lander/orbiter imaging we hope.'
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/913332-comet-15-times-brighter-than-the-moon-to-cross-night-sky-next-year (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/913332-comet-15-times-brighter-than-the-moon-to-cross-night-sky-next-year)
Sounds good, i bet its cloudy that day.
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(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/246451_480133715340978_1023393494_n.jpg)
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:lol:
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Watched an episode of of the new Stephen Hawking prog on discovery, this episode focused on a universe from nothing.
Urgghh cant get my head round that, the universe just came into being, nothing before it. :frantic:
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Nothing we can observe, anyway...
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Nothing we can observe, anyway...
This is the thing that makes me think the most about space, just what is beyond what we can see. It wasn't too long ago we thought the solar system was everything, how wrong were we? What if this universe is the same, and what we discover is of the same effect? It's mind blowing.
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I like to think of the universe being a marble, like the end of Men in Black. I state, again, I LIKE TO THINK, I don't believe this.
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Russian dolls, always something bigger.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
Haven't some theoretical physicists began specualating that blacks that absorb matter in our universe spew it out, creating other universe in a different dimension ? So the universe we know may be made up of content from another dimension??
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
It's weird to think about, everything we understand has to have a start, so what caused tht enitial bang that started the universe to expand so rapidly 13 billion years ago, and if there was something before the big bang what caused that?
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
Haven't some theoretical physicists began specualating that blacks that absorb matter in our universe spew it out, creating other universe in a different dimension ? So the universe we know may be made up of content from another dimension??
Don't think it has anything to do with race, mate. You wanna have a think about that, not acceptable in today's society.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
Haven't some theoretical physicists began specualating that blacks that absorb matter in our universe spew it out, creating other universe in a different dimension ? So the universe we know may be made up of content from another dimension??
Don't think it has anything to do with race, mate. You wanna have a think about that, not acceptable in today's society.
Howay man that was a f***ing mistake, was meant to be black holes.
f*** off man.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
Haven't some theoretical physicists began specualating that blacks that absorb matter in our universe spew it out, creating other universe in a different dimension ? So the universe we know may be made up of content from another dimension??
Don't think it has anything to do with race, mate. You wanna have a think about that, not acceptable in today's society.
Howay man that was a f***ing mistake, was meant to be black holes.
f*** off man.
:lol: Obviously. I was jesting. Or was it just not funny?
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Thought you were being serious.
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:lol: Soz.
Anyway, to not be a dick... I haven't heard that about black holes spewing out matter elsewhere. Even considering that warps my fragile little mind. My limited knowledge and theory of black holes stops at a giant ball of ever growing, ever compacting matter - The denser it gets, the more it warps space. If warped space is actually the warping of time then that's a theory that fits. I personally don't believe the warping of space due to the existence of matter causes warping of time. But then I struggle to see any viable theory for time travel and I am in no way a physicist so all my views are probably bollocks anyway.
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:lol: Soz.
Anyway, to not be a dick... I haven't heard that about black holes spewing out matter elsewhere. Even considering that warps my fragile little mind. My limited knowledge and theory of black holes stops at a giant ball of ever growing, ever compacting matter - The denser it gets, the more it warps space. If warped space is actually the warping of time then that's a theory that fits. I personally don't believe the warping of space due to the existence of matter causes warping of time. But then I struggle to see any viable theory for time travel and I am in no way a physicist so all my views are probably bollocks anyway.
The last Prof Hakwins episode was talking about it, i struggle as well but find it interesting.
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What's that series called? It on Discovery channel?
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What's that series called? It on Discovery channel?
Aye, cant remember what its called. Let me have a look for it.
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Into the Universe with Stphen Hawking.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/18/2957585/planetary-resources-space-exploration-company-james-cameron-google (http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/18/2957585/planetary-resources-space-exploration-company-james-cameron-google)
MIT's Technology Review has just gotten news of a mysterious new project that claims it will "create a new industry and a new definition of 'natural resources.'" Space exploration company Planetary Resources will be unveiled in a conference call on Tuesday, April 24th. Besides the audacious announcement, which promises to "overlay two critical sectors — space exploration and natural resources — to add trillions of dollars to the global GDP," what makes this unique is its high-profile support group. The venture is backed by Google executives Larry Page and Eric Schmidt, director James Cameron, and politician Ross Perot's son, among others.
We're left to ponder, however, what Planetary Resources will actually do. Technology Review speculates that the project is an asteroid mining operation, reasoning that the other natural resources we need — an Earth-like habitat and supply of fossil fuels — aren't going to be found in space any time soon. Looking at the evidence, asteroid mining seems pretty likely at this point, especially since X Prize founder and perpetual optimist Peter Diamandis is at the head of the operation. In 2005, Diamandis appeared at TED describing an extraterrestrial environment where "everything we hold of value on this planet — metal and minerals and real estate and energy" are available in "infinite quantities." He specifically singled out asteroid mining, claiming that he could finance mining a "20 trillion dollar" asteroid full of nickel-iron alloy by speculating in the precious metals market.
The three other members listed — entrepreneur Eric Anderson, astronaut Tom Jones, and former NASA mission manager Chris Lewicki — will almost certainly affect the project, but it's more difficult to tie their work to a potential goal. Eric Anderson's experience is primarily in space tourism, which could create a new industry but probably wouldn't add up to trillions of dollars, and Jones and Lewicki have stayed mum on any grand plans.
Next week, we'll be finding out for certain what's going on, and then Planetary Resources will have to start actually making good on its impressive claims. The event will apparently be streamed, and tickets are being sold on the Museum of Flight's page, although the information there makes no mention of a new company.
Hope this is legit. James Cameron is turning into a crazy explorer guy. Class.
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James Cameron's only concern is his bank balance.
This will categorically not happen within the next 20 years.
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James Cameron's only concern is his bank balance.
This will categorically not happen within the next 20 years.
What makes you say that?
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Because it's true
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:lol: OK.
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:lol: I just hate the man, tbf.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
Haven't some theoretical physicists began specualating that blacks that absorb matter in our universe spew it out, creating other universe in a different dimension ? So the universe we know may be made up of content from another dimension??
Don't think it has anything to do with race, mate. You wanna have a think about that, not acceptable in today's society.
Howay man that was a f***ing mistake, was meant to be black holes.
f*** off man.
:lol: Class.
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:lol: :lol:
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:lol: I was reluctant to laugh.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
It's weird to think about, everything we understand has to have a start, so what caused tht enitial bang that started the universe to expand so rapidly 13 billion years ago, and if there was something before the big bang what caused that?
That question might not be valid: time appears to have come into existence at the Big Bang, too. "Before the Big Bang" doesn't make any sense.
My favourite theory is that our universe is just a simulation running in some insanely powerful computer: why else would the Universe have minimum quanta of time, space, particles/waves etc. (i.e. a maximum resolution, like pixels)?
I don't believe it, but it's a helluva interesting idea.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
It's weird to think about, everything we understand has to have a start, so what caused tht enitial bang that started the universe to expand so rapidly 13 billion years ago, and if there was something before the big bang what caused that?
That question might not be valid: time appears to have come into existence at the Big Bang, too. "Before the Big Bang" doesn't make any sense.
My favourite theory is that our universe is just a simulation running in some insanely powerful computer: why else would the Universe have minimum quanta of time, space, particles/waves etc. (i.e. a maximum resolution, like pixels)?
I don't believe it, but it's a helluva interesting idea.
Time only appears to have come in to existence at the time of the big bang because that's all we can measure. We can only measure the Universe as we view it, ie. the continuing result of the 'big bang'. If the universe was one single point of nothingness then it was still one single point of nothingness, which means it had to exist in some sort of time. We're measuring time as the age of the universe, which is the distance back to the earliest measurable point.
If I knock a sealed yoghurt pot on to the floor and the result is the spread of yoghurt across the floor, you can measure how long it took for the yoghurt to spread out from the point of impact, and if there were organisms created within that yoghurt because of the reactions that take place in it, then they can could theoretically measure how quickly the yoghurt is travelling across the floor and back to where the pot landed resulting in the age of the yoghurt spill. It doesn't mean that pot of yoghurt wasn't sitting on the bench before hand before I came home drunk and knocked the bugger off with no organisms inside.
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
It's weird to think about, everything we understand has to have a start, so what caused tht enitial bang that started the universe to expand so rapidly 13 billion years ago, and if there was something before the big bang what caused that?
That question might not be valid: time appears to have come into existence at the Big Bang, too. "Before the Big Bang" doesn't make any sense.
My favourite theory is that our universe is just a simulation running in some insanely powerful computer: why else would the Universe have minimum quanta of time, space, particles/waves etc. (i.e. a maximum resolution, like pixels)?
I don't believe it, but it's a helluva interesting idea.
Time only appears to have come in to existence at the time of the big bang because that's all we can measure. We can only measure the Universe as we view it, ie. the continuing result of the 'big bang'. If the universe was one single point of nothingness then it was still one single point of nothingness, which means it had to exist in some sort of time. We're measuring time as the age of the universe, which is the distance back to the earliest measurable point.
If I knock a sealed yoghurt pot on to the floor and the result is the spread of yoghurt across the floor, you can measure how long it took for the yoghurt to spread out from the point of impact, and if there were organisms created within that yoghurt because of the reactions that take place in it, then they can could theoretically measure how quickly the yoghurt is travelling across the floor and back to where the pot landed resulting in the age of the yoghurt spill. It doesn't mean that pot of yoghurt wasn't sitting on the bench before hand before I came home drunk and knocked the bugger off with no organisms inside.
Sounds like something you have done before once or twice
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There must have been something before the Universe, the Big Bang theory doesn't describe the beginning of everything, but the beginning of this Universe. There must have been something for the Big Bang to have come from. Maybe a universe that had been before and had expanded and contracted? A single point containing absolutely everything? There must have been something before the Big Bang.
It's weird to think about, everything we understand has to have a start, so what caused tht enitial bang that started the universe to expand so rapidly 13 billion years ago, and if there was something before the big bang what caused that?
That question might not be valid: time appears to have come into existence at the Big Bang, too. "Before the Big Bang" doesn't make any sense.
My favourite theory is that our universe is just a simulation running in some insanely powerful computer: why else would the Universe have minimum quanta of time, space, particles/waves etc. (i.e. a maximum resolution, like pixels)?
I don't believe it, but it's a helluva interesting idea.
Time only appears to have come in to existence at the time of the big bang because that's all we can measure. We can only measure the Universe as we view it, ie. the continuing result of the 'big bang'. If the universe was one single point of nothingness then it was still one single point of nothingness, which means it had to exist in some sort of time. We're measuring time as the age of the universe, which is the distance back to the earliest measurable point.
If I knock a sealed yoghurt pot on to the floor and the result is the spread of yoghurt across the floor, you can measure how long it took for the yoghurt to spread out from the point of impact, and if there were organisms created within that yoghurt because of the reactions that take place in it, then they can could theoretically measure how quickly the yoghurt is travelling across the floor and back to where the pot landed resulting in the age of the yoghurt spill. It doesn't mean that pot of yoghurt wasn't sitting on the bench before hand before I came home drunk and knocked the bugger off with no organisms inside.
No it doesn't mean it had to exist in some point in time. It may have existed in some form we cannot possibly imagine.
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CP40 mentioned this to me the other day, watching it now....Its an older Horizon buts its superb.
BBC iPlayer - Horizon: 2010-2011: What Happened Before the Big Bang? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vdkmj/)
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Watching it now, cheers. Sure I read a team of scientists from Australia trying to debunk the big bang, claiming it was more of a 'big melt', will try to find it.
E: http://rt.com/news/universe-creation-big-chill-259/ (http://rt.com/news/universe-creation-big-chill-259/) - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120820110918.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120820110918.htm)
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"Not available in your area" Gaaah!
I'll have to nip on the VPN later when my download's done.
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Will watch next.
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Theres a good BBC series called The Planets on Netflix which is worth a watch. Some of it is a bit dated but it's still good.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/planet-with-four-suns-discovered-8212226.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/planet-with-four-suns-discovered-8212226.html)
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Bloody hell. Isn't that, like, totally the wrong way around?
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Just when we think we understand something, two armchair astronomers go and f*** things up.
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:lol:
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anybody watchin bbc 3 now :lol:
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former cia man reckons 2.5billion aliens live on the moon. :lol:
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Is this the conspiracy thing? Watching something else the now so can't check.
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Is this the conspiracy thing? Watching something else the now so can't check.
aye- canny funny like
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former cia man reckons 2.5billion aliens live on the moon. :lol:
:lol: Switched it on the moment I read this.
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former cia man reckons 2.5billion aliens live on the moon. :lol:
:lol: Switched it on the moment I read this.
says theres houses trees factories the lot.
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High tech weapons is a disinformation too. Area 51 is obviously where they make that white stuff that goes in the middle of an Oreo.
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Are you having my life? Stalin sent over a UFO shaped craft manned by people who were genetically deformed to look like aliens. Right.
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f***ing hell, never heard that one before. :lol:
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Are you having my life? Stalin sent over a UFO shaped craft manned by people who were genetically deformed to look like aliens. Right.
:lol:
the face on that poor c*** who spent years preparing for alien invasion.
:okay:
Ive kind of given up on the subject :lol:
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:lol: And now she's been abducted by aliens but he conveniently decides not to go ahead with the lie detector test, because he blatantly doesn't want to get in her knickers.
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f***ing hell, never heard that one before. :lol:
That was actually the defense of the woman who was trying to convince the conspiracy theorists that there were no aliens in Area 51. And they wonder why these people turn out with these f***ing crackers ideas.
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Mental all that like. presenter reminded me of an Irish David Brent.
Lad from durham went across America, basically describing a fire work.
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EXTRATERRESTRIAL MINING
Near Earth Objects (NEOs) are believed to contain high levels of iron ore, platinum, nickel and zinc. There are nearly 9,000 asteroids larger than 45 metres in diameter that orbit near the Earth. Some of these could contain the equivalent amount of platinum that is mined in an entire year on Earth, making each small asteroid potentially worth several billion dollars. Although the amount of platinum group minerals in the Earth’s crust is very low, there are higher quantities in the extra terrestrial bodies. If the minerals on these NEOs can be extracted efficiently, there could be a business model to conduct extraterrestrial mining.
On April 24, 2012, a venture called Planetary Resources, Inc. announced that it intends to send robots into space to scout asteroids for precious metals, with the further intention of setting up mines to extract these minerals and bring them back to Earth. Mining of these extraterrestrial bodies would add trillions of dollars to the global GDP. Planetary Resources, Inc includes Eric Anderson, who founded the commercial space tourism company Space Adventures, and Peter Diamandis, who started the X Prize foundation. The company is backed by famous billionaires, including Google’s CEO Larry Page and executive chairman Eric Schmidt, former Microsoft chief architect Charles Simonyi, and Ross Perot Jr. Advisors include filmmaker James Cameron, former astronaut Tom Jones, former JPL engineer Chris Lewicki, and planetary scientist Sara Seager.
The first hurdle to overcome for any company looking to mine NEOs will be the legal one. A similar arrangement to that governing mining in international seabeds is likely to apply, whereby a special commission oversees any licensing. Planetary Resources intends to extract the platinum-group metals, including platinum, palladium, osmium, and iridium. These metals are used in medical devices, renewable energy products, catalytic converters, and may be used in automotive fuel cells. Platinum is currently worth $1650 USD an ounce; even mining the first metre or two of a one-kilometre diameter asteroid could yield around 130 tonnes of platinum, worth $6 billion.
Planetary Resources aims to launch between two and five space-based telescopes worth a few million dollars each within the next two years. The Arkyd-101 Space Telescopes will examine near-Earth asteroids for more detailed information to determine whether or not they are worth resource extraction. The company then hopes to send similar spacecraft out within five to seven years for more detailed prospecting; hopefully to map out a valuable asteroid and identify the resource rich veins. This part of the mission would cost between $25 and 30 million. The next phase would be mining and ore extraction for return to Earth. The details of this phase of the mission have not been released.
South African engineer Ron Olivier, of Shamayan Innovation Partnerships (SIP) is pushing for his country to develop a space mining programme as well, to exploit raw materials available on the Moon and on NEOs. South African company SunSpace built 2 satellites and launched them into space, so Olivier believes a South African space mining programme could be feasible. Olivier presented his ideas at the SA Space Association Congress in Cape Town, proposing that a mission to mine NEOs could produce the largest economic benefit to the country since gold and diamonds were discovered there. A space port similar to the International Space Station (ISS) would need to be used to launch missions to asteroids. Olivier suggested a 1km sized asteroid could deliver $150bn in platinum value at current prices. If a re-usable vehicle could be developed and was cost-effective, it could make a space mining programme viable within a decade. SIP does not plan on using astronauts to mine the asteroids like Planetary Resources will do, but instead intends to use unmanned robots. Using unmanned robots would cut down on costs, as human miners would require transport and basic human necessities.
To understand how surveying and mining of these extraterrestrial bodies would work, it’s important to understand the exploration process on Earth, and how will that affect the mining of extra-terrestrial bodies.
On Earth every target goes through a long process before a mine (if a mine) opens. Generally geological mapping and gravity surveys are conducted to tell geologists whether or not a host rock is likely to hold the target mineral. After this soil and rock sampling may be conducted for geochemical analysis and if results are looking in the right direction, experimental drill holes are collared. These drill holes go to varying depths depending on when/if a target is hit, and each hole will be analysed geochemically and logged. This entire process is then looked at in an overall sense and geologists will use software to “map” out deposits and will decide if it is worth pursuing in the long run, and if it is economically viable.
This exploration process takes a long time, often many years, and that could be a big problem when mining extra-terrestrial bodies. A robot will not equal the expertise of a geologist with many years of experience, and if this long-scale exploration isn’t conducted, drilling blind may mean missing targets at a huge cost. Of course waste is another issue, on Earth the platinum group minerals, at their lowest abundance make up less than 1ppb or 1g per 1000 tons, and it typically takes the mining of 10 tons to make up one oz of Platinum.
Even if mining permits were granted and mining began, there is the problem of refining the ore. If a robot around the size and weight of a small car was sent to an asteroid and mined it, in theory it could carry back 100 times its own weight in mined material. With current commodity prices, each of these hypothetical robot miners would generate around $875,000. As the mission costs hundreds of millions of dollars, refining ore on Earth does not make financial sense.
Asteroids can also be mined for water, which could aid in exploration of the solar system. Water can be broken into its constituent hydrogen and oxygen, the chief components of rocket fuel. Any company looking at extraterrestrial mining could look at the establishment of in-space "gas stations" that would allow many spacecraft to refuel cheaply and efficiently. This in turn could aid missions to Mars and beyond. A refueling depot like this might allow people to permanently live and work in space.
Planetary resources webpage: http://www.planetaryresources.com/mission/ (http://www.planetaryresources.com/mission/)
South Africa’s space programme: http://www.sunspace.co.za/home/ (http://www.sunspace.co.za/home/)
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(http://i.imgur.com/5rWbh.jpg)
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I seen that on Facebook earlier and it showed it on Ricky Gervais' Twitter feed, but it isn't there, did he say that?
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No idea.
Wasn't space like. :bluestar:
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Isn't she 15 an all?
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Massive Meteor/Fireball Scorches across Northern California Skys before Exploding (Oct 18, 2012) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXDBH85Ph-Y#ws)
this weekend...
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/247260_419430481455463_481515116_n.jpg)
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:notbad:
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Intergalactic planetary.
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Mint. Buying mesel a reet nice little detached place on Gliese 581g once we've got the whole faster-than-light travel thing sorted out like.
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Risky investment. Apparently Gliese 581 g may not actually exist. http://www.space.com/16673-gliese-581g-habitable-planet-existence.html (http://www.space.com/16673-gliese-581g-habitable-planet-existence.html)
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I hope it's a planet full of coal. Imagine that?
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Clean coal, at that
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I hope it's a planet full of coal. Imagine that?
Tories will be wounded.
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This is cool as f***.
http://www.firstmenonthemoon.com/ (http://www.firstmenonthemoon.com/)
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That has been a very cool few minutes :cool:
Amazing feat of engineering (and balls)
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This is cool as f***.
http://www.firstmenonthemoon.com/ (http://www.firstmenonthemoon.com/)
Cheers Dave, that was awesome!
Can not even imagine following that live at the time, must have been tense as f***.
What a incredible achievement, especially considering how long its ago, and how far we are now.
:clap:
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6760135001_14c59a1490_o.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6760135001_14c59a1490_o.jpg)
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Our little world is truly a stunning planet.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21230_495272907160392_99504593_n.png)
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Time for one of these again:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/602570_457545000951434_1765094624_n.jpg)
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Didn't they find one bigger than Canis?
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Dunno where else to put this video...
i suppose its related, pretty good, 49 mins long tho - Athene's Theory of Everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbh5l0b2-0o#ws)
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Didn't they find one bigger than Canis?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_known_stars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_known_stars)
NML Cygni it is.
( :iamatwat: KY Cygni :iamatwat: )
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Every now and then , I think of the size of space and how no-one knows where it ends, and my mind is just completely blown.
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Every now and then , I think of the size of space and how no-one knows where it ends, and my mind is just completely blown.
:thup: Those Star pictures always send me mental for a few minutes just trying to grasp how ridiculously massive they are.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9661398/Brian-Cox-BBC-bosses-feared-alien-discovery-could-breach-editorial-guidelines.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9661398/Brian-Cox-BBC-bosses-feared-alien-discovery-could-breach-editorial-guidelines.html)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9661398/Brian-Cox-BBC-bosses-feared-alien-discovery-could-breach-editorial-guidelines.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9661398/Brian-Cox-BBC-bosses-feared-alien-discovery-could-breach-editorial-guidelines.html)
Ridiculous.
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:lol:
Probably worried in case Aliens wanted to report the time Savile touched their kids.
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:lol:
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Yeah, definitely a health and safety issue. :lol:
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Bizarre. Imagine, if by some miracle, they had spotted an alien... the BBC would rather miss out on a live broadcast of arguably the greatest discovery in the history of the world? I don't get it.
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Bizarre. Imagine, if by some miracle, they had spotted an alien... the BBC would rather miss out on a live broadcast of arguably the greatest discovery in the history of the world? I don't get it.
Mental. Just shows what a bunch of clowns are running the place.
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If I'm honest I'm surprised Parky hasn't went with the Reptilians control the BBC and don't want us to know Aliens Exist angle.
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A POSSIBLE LIFE-SUPPORTING SUPER-EARTH HAS BEEN FOUND
An Anglo-German team of astronomers, led by Mikko Tuomi of the University of Hertfordshire, and Guillem Anglada-Escude of the University of Goettingen, have discovered a ‘Super-Earth’ that lies in the habitable zone of a nearby star. The planet orbits around HD 40307, 42 light-years distant from us towards the southern Doradus and Pictor constellations; the star is slightly less massive than our Sun. The K2.5 dwarf has six planets orbiting it; three of which are ‘Super-Earths’.
Previous work on the system had indicated it contained three planets in orbits too close to the star to support liquid water, with orbits of 4.3, 9.6, and 20.4 days (http://on.fb.me/VVoMfJ (http://on.fb.me/VVoMfJ)). The discovery of the three new planets was made by examining data from the Harps spectrograph, a device able to pick up tiny changes in the colour of the light coming from a host star as it wobbles under the gravitational influence of orbiting planets. Harps is attached to a European Southern Observatory telescope at La Silla in Chile’s Atacama Desert. The team used the wavelength as a filter to reduce the stellar influence on the signal, avoiding fake signals. This increased the sensitivity of the analysis, revealing the HD 40307 system to be composed of six planets.
One of these newly-discovered planets, known as HD 40307g, has a mass at least seven times that of the Earth and resides in the outermost orbit in the system. This means the planet’s orbit around HD 40307 is at a similar distance to that of the Earth around the Sun, therefore receiving a similar amount of energy from its sun as Earth does. This increases the chances of HD 40307g being habitable and makes the presence of liquid water and stable atmospheres to support life possible. The planet is also likely to be rotating on its own axis while it orbits its star, which would create a daytime and night-time effect on the planet.
The image is an artist's impression showing HD40307g in the foreground (on the left hand side), with its host star HD40307 and two other planets in the system (on the right-hand side).
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Previous post on HD 40307:http://on.fb.me/VVoMfJ
http://www.alphagalileo.org/ViewItem.aspx?ItemId=125673&CultureCode=en (http://www.alphagalileo.org/ViewItem.aspx?ItemId=125673&CultureCode=en)
Mikko Tuomi, Guillem Anglada-Escude, Enrico Gerlach, Hugh R. A. Jones, Ansgar Reiners, Eugenio J. Rivera, Steven S. Vogt and R. Paul Butler. Habitable-zone super-Earth candidate in a six-planet system around the K2.5V star HD 40307. Astronomy & Astrophysics, 2012; (accepted for publication) http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.1617 (http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.1617)]
http://star-www.herts.ac.uk/~hraj/hd40307/hd40307_final.pdf (http://star-www.herts.ac.uk/~hraj/hd40307/hd40307_final.pdf)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.800.382.44365361803/p843x403/314123_428293277235850_2052657480_n.jpg)
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Stellarium now available on android, for anyone who likes this sort of thing. A majestic two quid. It was the one thing I missed from iOS, and it hasn't been on android until relatively recently. Just a sky map, but a fairly friendly one.
Sorry if :giggs:
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Gravity on that planet would be humongous. Any life would either be tiny or unreasonably strong.
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Gravity on that planet would be humongous. Any life would either be tiny or unreasonably strong.
Would depend on the core size and iron content rather than just naked planet size.
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Gravity on that planet would be humongous. Any life would either be tiny or unreasonably strong.
All relative surely? Just bigger 'people'? Who the f*** knows.
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Gravity on that planet would be humongous. Any life would either be tiny or unreasonably strong.
Would depend on the core size and iron content rather than just naked planet size.
True, mass would play big a part. Can't remember if I read it was supposed to be 7 times the size or 7 times the mass. Probably the former.
EDIT: Ah, it is mass.
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It's Mars big problem with reg to holding a more meaningful atmosphere.
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So the end of Total Recall couldn't actually happen? :(
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480852_498535806834102_991310460_n.jpg)
:anguish:
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Best form of attack is defence tbf.
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Think Pards has taken over Fenham's account
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:pards:
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480852_498535806834102_991310460_n.jpg)
:anguish:
Feels inevitable but couldn't be more apt:
Bill Hicks - It's Just A Ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5sny4AQldg#)
"Here's what we can do to change the world right now. Take all that money we spend on blowing each other up with weapons and defence each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we can explore space together; both inner and outer, forever, in peace."
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Ahh the late great Mr Hicks.
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http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2005/13may_2004mn4/ (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2005/13may_2004mn4/)
Alan Fitzsimmons, an astronomer from Queen's University Belfast, said: "When it does pass close to us on April 13 2029, the Earth will deflect it and change its orbit. There's a small possibility that if it passes through a particular point in space, the so-called keyhole, ... the Earth's gravity will change things so that when it comes back around again in 2036, it will collide with us." The chance of Apophis passing through the keyhole, a 600-metre patch of space, is 1 in 5,500 based on current information.
There are no shortage of ideas on how to deflect asteroids. The Advanced Concepts Team at the European Space Agency have led the effort in designing a range of satellites and rockets to nudge asteroids on a collision course for Earth into a different orbit.
No technology has been left unconsidered, even potentially dangerous ideas such as nuclear powered spacecraft. "The advantage of nuclear propulsion is a lot of power," said Prof Fitzsimmons. "The negative thing is that ... we haven't done it yet. Whereas with solar electric propulsion, there are several spacecraft now that do use this technology so we're fairly confident it would work."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/dec/07/spaceexploration.research (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/dec/07/spaceexploration.research)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20309762 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20309762)
Interesting.....
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whooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/ (http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/)
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whooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/ (http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/)
Just came to post this, s*** like this always blows my mind no matter how many times you try to imagine the scale of even just our Galaxy.
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Anybody with an passing intrest in the uni/multiverse should look at exo planet app
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http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23+00%3A44%3A00&window=-1&cygnetId=261 (http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23+00%3A44%3A00&window=-1&cygnetId=261)
http://www.space.com/18528-sun-unleashes-monster-prominence-video.html (http://www.space.com/18528-sun-unleashes-monster-prominence-video.html)
:frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :yikes: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
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http://www.gearthblog.com/satellites.html (http://www.gearthblog.com/satellites.html)
Amazing.
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Anybody with an passing intrest in the uni/multiverse should look at exo planet app
Interested, why should i look at it?
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Anybody with an passing intrest in the uni/multiverse should look at exo planet app
Interested, why should i look at it?
It contunually updates any planets that have recenlty been found. It great as you watch the galaxy expand as they discover more and more.
It also highlights all the planets that could possibly harbour life
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Good stuff!
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Mars Rover 'Curiosity' Team Reportedly Will Reveal Major Discovery In December
NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has apparently made a discovery "for the history books," but we'll have to wait a few weeks to learn what the new Red Planet find may be, media reports suggest.
The discovery was made by Curiosity's Sample Analysis at Mars instrument, NPR reported today (Nov. 20). SAM is the rover's onboard chemistry lab, and it's capable of identifying organic compounds — the carbon-containing building blocks of life as we know it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/mars-rover-curiosity-discovery_n_2167207.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/mars-rover-curiosity-discovery_n_2167207.html)
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Mars Rover 'Curiosity' Team Reportedly Will Reveal Major Discovery In December
NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has apparently made a discovery "for the history books," but we'll have to wait a few weeks to learn what the new Red Planet find may be, media reports suggest.
The discovery was made by Curiosity's Sample Analysis at Mars instrument, NPR reported today (Nov. 20). SAM is the rover's onboard chemistry lab, and it's capable of identifying organic compounds — the carbon-containing building blocks of life as we know it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/mars-rover-curiosity-discovery_n_2167207.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/mars-rover-curiosity-discovery_n_2167207.html)
Aliens ??? :frantic: :frantic:
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:frantic: :frantic:
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1. Aliens
2. Transformers
3. Santa's Base of Operations
4. Womblemaster's Sex Lair
5. More Jimmy Savile victims have stepped forward
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1. Aliens
2. Transformers
3. Santa's Base of Operations
4. Womblemaster's Sex Lair
5. More Jimmy Savile victims have stepped forward
Ohhh, I like the transformer option.
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It'll be nothing exciting for the general populace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=doN4t5NKW-k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=doN4t5NKW-k)
This is cool.
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It'll be nothing exciting for the general populace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=doN4t5NKW-k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=doN4t5NKW-k)
This is cool.
Yeah, great video.
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Great stuff :thup:
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Oh I'm very curious to see what NASA have found.
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Oh I'm very curious to see what NASA have found.
Yes looking forward to see what they have found or detcted. I suspect it will be fossilized organic compounds, Id be well chuffed if they found a basic form of fosilized life.
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Oh I'm very curious to see what NASA have found.
It's Optimus Prime
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(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/zyborg47/mars.jpg)
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That's brilliant, Just needs a combe the desert moment from spaceballs
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Almost worth it even for the article's ridiculous first sentence: "I’ve been writing about the Universe for many years now."
But it's a brilliant photo:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2012/11/22/astrophotographer_takes_stunning_picture_of_the_milky_way_from_a_volcano.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2012/11/22/astrophotographer_takes_stunning_picture_of_the_milky_way_from_a_volcano.html)
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http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/index.html (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/index.html)
Space Weather
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1. Aliens
2. Transformers
3. Santa's Base of Operations
4. Womblemaster's Sex Lair
5. More Jimmy Savile victims have stepped forward
:lol:
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Just to add to that list:
6. A dead Killer Whale
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Just to add to that list:
6. A dead Killer Whale
Nah, they're on Mars, not the moon.
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Is there a lunar eclipse tonight?
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Is there a lunar eclipse tonight?
Might look like it from all the long balls at the Brittania.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/11/27/nasa_mars_discovery_misunderstanding_mission_leader_excited_about_entire.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/11/27/nasa_mars_discovery_misunderstanding_mission_leader_excited_about_entire.html)
:lol:
Or, as I read somewhere else, "the-powers-that-be don't want to let the cat out of the bag." :laugh:
Knew it would be nowt, though. As if they'd share anything with us.
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Is there a lunar eclipse tonight?
Might look like it from all the long balls at the Brittania.
(http://boards.420chan.org/ana/src/1351021320831.gif)
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/11/27/nasa_mars_discovery_misunderstanding_mission_leader_excited_about_entire.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/11/27/nasa_mars_discovery_misunderstanding_mission_leader_excited_about_entire.html)
:lol:
Or, as I read somewhere else, "the-powers-that-be don't want to let the cat out of the bag." :laugh:
Knew it would be nowt, though. As if they'd share anything with us.
:(
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http://www.space.com/18668-biggest-black-hole-discovery.html (http://www.space.com/18668-biggest-black-hole-discovery.html)
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2012/11/22/astrophotographer_takes_stunning_picture_of_the_milky_way_from_a_volcano.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2012/11/22/astrophotographer_takes_stunning_picture_of_the_milky_way_from_a_volcano.html)
My new desktop :aww:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20528137 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20528137)
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NASA Mercury Announcement Imminent!
Word has it (from a NASA Media Alert) that MESSENGER, the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury, has observed something new and interesting on the first planet from the Sun, and we're going to cover the official announcement from NASA live!
The spacecraft's MESSENGER acronym stands for Mercury Surface, Space Environment, Geochemistry, and Ranging, and has been studying the planet more intensely than any probe before it, ever since its arrival there in March 2011. Have we whet your appetite yet?
Watch the press conference live as it unfolds on NASA TV at 2 p.m. EST
http://blogs.discovery.com/inscider/2012/11/nasa-mercury-announcement.html#mkcpgn=fbsci1 (http://blogs.discovery.com/inscider/2012/11/nasa-mercury-announcement.html#mkcpgn=fbsci1)
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Here we go, watch there will be a massive asteroid on the way. Impact 21/12/12.
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NASA Mercury Announcement Imminent!
Word has it (from a NASA Media Alert) that MESSENGER, the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury, has observed something new and interesting on the first planet from the Sun, and we're going to cover the official announcement from NASA live!
The spacecraft's MESSENGER acronym stands for Mercury Surface, Space Environment, Geochemistry, and Ranging, and has been studying the planet more intensely than any probe before it, ever since its arrival there in March 2011. Have we whet your appetite yet?
Watch the press conference live as it unfolds on NASA TV at 2 p.m. EST
http://blogs.discovery.com/inscider/2012/11/nasa-mercury-announcement.html#mkcpgn=fbsci1 (http://blogs.discovery.com/inscider/2012/11/nasa-mercury-announcement.html#mkcpgn=fbsci1)
7pm GMT if anyone was wondering.
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It's starting.
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Connecting now!
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The ancient sumarians were right, there is water to be found on every planet in our system.
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That it?
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Holy s***, there is a lot of ice there.
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The New York Times @nytimes
NASA finds enough ice on the planet Mercury to encase Washington, D.C
I like these sort of analogies :lol:
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They've found ice on the closet planet to the sun? :lol:
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:lol: That's outrageous.
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/index.cfm?id=1163 (http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/index.cfm?id=1163)
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Cool video of Earth seen from the ISS
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/video/2012/nov/29/earth-international-space-station-timelapse-video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/video/2012/nov/29/earth-international-space-station-timelapse-video)
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/index.cfm?id=1163 (http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/index.cfm?id=1163)
Thats great, wonder how it looks like with man made sources.
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Organics On Mars: Curiosity Rover Finds Evidence Of Organic Compounds On Red Planet
A team of scientists announced on Monday that the Mars Rover Curiosity had found evidence of organic compounds on the Red Planet.
Martian soil samples analyzed aboard the rover revealed "water and sulfur and chlorine-containing substances," the space agency said in press materials.
Scientists will now have to determine whether the compounds are indigenous to Mars. There is a possibility that the organics could have come to Mars from Earth aboard the rover. There is also a chance that they could be materials that had fallen to Mars from space.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/organics-on-mars-curiosity-rover_n_2232436.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/organics-on-mars-curiosity-rover_n_2232436.html)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20621177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20621177)
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Organics On Mars: Curiosity Rover Finds Evidence Of Organic Compounds On Red Planet
A team of scientists announced on Monday that the Mars Rover Curiosity had found evidence of organic compounds on the Red Planet.
Martian soil samples analyzed aboard the rover revealed "water and sulfur and chlorine-containing substances," the space agency said in press materials.
Scientists will now have to determine whether the compounds are indigenous to Mars. There is a possibility that the organics could have come to Mars from Earth aboard the rover. There is also a chance that they could be materials that had fallen to Mars from space.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/organics-on-mars-curiosity-rover_n_2232436.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/organics-on-mars-curiosity-rover_n_2232436.html)
You'd kind of be surprised if there weren't any - all it means is carbon based compounds - we see methane out in space and asteroids have been found with organic compounds within them.
Life isn't required to make them (although all life we know of would require them).
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2012/12/07/nasa_s_ames_research_center_space_colony_images_from_the_1970s.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2012/12/07/nasa_s_ames_research_center_space_colony_images_from_the_1970s.html)
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Great pictures them Bluf, really do love this stuff.
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On the one hand it's great that on some level there was some scope towards looking into developing all this s***. On the f***ing other, it's a true tragedy that as a global community, we've made f*** all strides together in developing a proper space exploration and expansion agenda.
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http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/china-prepares-grow-vegetables-mars (http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/china-prepares-grow-vegetables-mars)
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http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive (http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive)
Don't know if anyone's put it on here yet, but this is canny interesting. An actual theoretical form of faster than light travel that doesn't break the universe.
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http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive (http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive)
Don't know if anyone's put it on here yet, but this is canny interesting. An actual theoretical form of faster than light travel that doesn't break the universe.
If they actually pull that off, it will be groundbreaking. Can't wait to see if it is actually possible.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20709852 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20709852)
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Will have a look out for that. Although if anyone else can say when they can see it it would be appreciated. :blush:
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(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/64730000/jpg/_64730708_624.jpg)
Wow.
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That Galaxies within Andromeda or something? :lol:
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It's where hubble has been looking recently for it's deepest view of the galaxy. It's on BBC site but that picture is mad. If you stare at it you can kind of see it like little gems suspended in transparent jelly. If you look down the centre it's almost as if the galaxies are spiralling.
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Yeah, sorry I was being stupid. :lol:
Just looked insane, I had a 'Oh my god, it's full of stars' moment. :lol: :lol:
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
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:thup:
Nothing better than contemplating the universe when on a trip. O0
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Get in, just saw one. East in the sky.
Actually buzzing :lol:
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Nowt but cloud in Yorkshire. Clouds f***ing love Yorkshire.
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Cloud, pointy stars, would not look. 4/10.
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Aye, definitely agreeing with this. Especially the comment about the human body. Biochemistry is hands down my favorite thing to read about, the stuff that goes on inside our body's without our knowledge 24/7 is just phenomenal.
Been laying in bed all day reading about Hayflick's limit and PCD O0
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We've just been out (at work) onto one of the roofs to have a look and other than absolutely freezing our bits off in hospital scrubs, saw absolutely nowt :lol:
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It's where hubble has been looking recently for it's deepest view of the galaxy. It's on BBC site but that picture is mad. If you stare at it you can kind of see it like little gems suspended in transparent jelly. If you look down the centre it's almost as if the galaxies are spiralling.
Read an article on Slate saying we will discover a lot more galaxies even further away in the next few years.
Going to check out the meteor shower in a few hours, apparently if I get to Lake Michigan it'll be good enough to avoid the light pollution.
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
Without the viewer what is it tho?
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
I meant viewing life, the universe and everything in scientific terms as opposed to believing some story about magic gardens and the like.
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Presume this is already in this thread somewhere?
http://htwins.net/scale2/ (http://htwins.net/scale2/)
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
I meant viewing life, the universe and everything in scientific terms as opposed to believing some story about magic gardens and the like.
The mind and brain are different things. The mind is everywhere at all times in all things.
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
Without the viewer what is it tho?
They're not ready for that Parky, leave it out.
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
I meant viewing life, the universe and everything in scientific terms as opposed to believing some story about magic gardens and the like.
The mind and brain are different things. The mind is everywhere at all times in all things.
Yeah, when you're on acid.
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
I meant viewing life, the universe and everything in scientific terms as opposed to believing some story about magic gardens and the like.
The mind and brain are different things. The mind is everywhere at all times in all things.
Yeah, when you're on acid.
No, eternally. Just we can't access a lot of our mind. Acid is just a temp doorway or access point.
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Whenever I think about all those galaxies and stuff, I get this kind of woah almost acid-trip it's-all-so-amazing-I-can't-handle-it feeling.
But I get exactly the same feeling when I contemplate the amazingness of the human body. It's all so astounding.
It makes me feel sorry for really religious types with their creation myths. They're all so unimaginative and small-scale compared to the grand, magnificent scientific reality of existence.
It makes me really want to hit the 'Dam and get me some shrooms, so I can spend an evening really enjoying the insane massiveness of it all.
Scientific reality? I agree with you about the amazingness of everything, and the more we discover through science often the more amazing it gets, but science is exploring and uncovering reality - it didn't make it!
The reality of everything was there long before science popped up to try and explain things. If you really want a mind trip delve into quantum theory.
I meant viewing life, the universe and everything in scientific terms as opposed to believing some story about magic gardens and the like.
The mind and brain are different things. The mind is everywhere at all times in all things.
The mind is subjective. Minds are different and not everywhere at all times in all things. The mind is a creation of the brain, and if people can share their mind, it's only because of another brain's acceptance to do so.
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Just cos I wanna break the thread:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Systemesolaire2.jpg)
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I don't have the words to express my geek rage at that 1) not being to scale 2) detail text being unreadable :lol:
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'Brighter than a full moon': The biggest star of 2013... could be Ison - the comet of the century
In 2013 a comet called Ison will put on a once in a lifetime show. The comet is expected to be visible to the naked eye for several months in late 2013, and could at times be brighter than the Moon. It will be visible from all around the world.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brighter-than-a-full-moon-the-biggest-star-of-2013-could-be-ison--the-comet-of-the-century-8431443.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brighter-than-a-full-moon-the-biggest-star-of-2013-could-be-ison--the-comet-of-the-century-8431443.html)
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It'll probably be cloudy.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/01/20/the_moon_from_space_astronaut_takes_a_gorgeous_picture_of_the_moon.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/01/20/the_moon_from_space_astronaut_takes_a_gorgeous_picture_of_the_moon.html)
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That's just astonishing tbh.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/07/mars-rover-spots-metallic-arm_n_2637990.html
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/979389/thumbs/r-8441458081_9F48BAAB8B_O-large570.jpg?6)
There's another weird thing on Mars, and Nasa really doesn't know what it is this time.
You may remember the $2.5 billion Curiosity rover currently drilling rocks on the Red Planet already found strange shiny things and what was labelled a 'Martian Flower'.
But if anything, this is even weirder.
An image posted by Nasa on 30 January and taken with the right Mastcam on Curiosity shows what appears to be a 0.5cm metal spoke protruding out of a rock.
The strange sight - which looks a bit like a robotic arm - was noticed by imaging editor Elisabetta Bonora from Italy.
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/979389/thumbs/o-8441458081_9F48BAAB8B_O-570.jpg?6)
Whatever it is looks shiny, casts a shadow on the rock below and looks different to the rock it emerges from.
Universe Today speculates that it might be a different type of rock more resistant to erosion. Gizmodo instead wonders aloud whether it's evidence of an alien death ship.
What do you think? Are you convinced this is proof of intelligent life on Mars, or just another boring thing in the dirt? (Which, by the way, isn't red.)
:undecided:
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(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1209/RBSP-Launch-Streak-Double-MKillian.jpg)
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Pahaha. :lol: "Our best theory is that it's a different type of rock, but we're not ruling out the whole alien death ship thing."
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It's probably the Beagle lander :(
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iCawTYPtehk#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7mLUIDGqmw&feature=player_embedded#!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUVnCDe721E
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Does anyone know what sort of direction we need to be looking in for this asteroid tonight?
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/02/15/asteroid_2012_da14_watch_it_live_as_it_passes_earth.html
Might help? :dontknow:
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For anyone else telescopin' - it passes between Leo and Virgo at roughly 19:45, then will go very close to the furthest right star in Comae Berinices at 20:17 - so that would be a good place to set your pointer.
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For anyone else telescopin' - it passes between Leo and Virgo at roughly 19:45, then will go very close to the furthest right star in Comae Berinices at 20:17 - so that would be a good place to set your pointer.
:lol: Well that cleared it up.
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:lol:
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/15/russian-meteor-pictured-from-space_n_2694893.html
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Fuuuuucking hell, that's some canny f***ing damage caused by shockwaves of a rock breaking up in the atmosphere. That is some immense power. That's probably millions of years worth of absolutely unchallenged motion. Not a morsel of resistance. All finally coming to an end and spreading that energy throughout some poor little village in Russia. Mental, man.
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Fuuuuucking hell, that's some canny f***ing damage caused by shockwaves of a rock breaking up in the atmosphere. That is some immense power. That's probably millions of years worth of absolutely unchallenged motion. Not a morsel of resistance. All finally coming to an end and spreading that energy throughout some poor little village in Russia. Mental, man.
Blows your mind when you think of it like this. And in the grand scheme of intergalactic entities, it's an absolutely tiny object. Scary.
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Fuuuuucking hell, that's some canny f***ing damage caused by shockwaves of a rock breaking up in the atmosphere. That is some immense power. That's probably millions of years worth of absolutely unchallenged motion. Not a morsel of resistance. All finally coming to an end and spreading that energy throughout some poor little village in Russia. Mental, man.
The loading bay door flying off the rails was crazy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZLPQtX2Pw4
Cue conspiracies about it being a perfect circle.
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Aren't most craters circles?
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Not arguing with that, fella. Just noticed the comments on the video already. Bang that in line with random comments from far right politicians about the Yanks firing missiles and suddenly, NEW CONSPIRACIES abound. :frantic:
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:lol: I can't believe the comments on a youtube video are f***ing s***. That never happens.
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Just sayin', you dirty b******.
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Fuuuuucking hell, that's some canny f***ing damage caused by shockwaves of a rock breaking up in the atmosphere. That is some immense power. That's probably millions of years worth of absolutely unchallenged motion. Not a morsel of resistance. All finally coming to an end and spreading that energy throughout some poor little village in Russia. Mental, man.
A 10 metre, 10,000 tonne rock moving at 30,000 mph. That's a lot of energy, man.
Exploded about 10 miles up with a force about 25 times that of the Hiroshima bomb. Imagine if the f***er had hit the city.
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ISS passing over now to the West for anyone interested (Fugazi)
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As this is sheer speculation, its probably in wrong thread tbh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhBCu41AXy4
if this is accurate, continued asteroid activity from now to nov.
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What a load of s***.
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https://www.facebook.com/Mark.Fritz.0
:lol: Give him credit. He's certainly a trier.
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Bloody hell, step aside Wombler.
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Surely related.
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I like how we're easily supposed to see cars and humans. I can't even see a change in colour/shade on most of his "proof".
Edit: Don't know if this link will work but
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=585745398121051&set=a.587982277897363.142375.100000567875198&type=1&theater
So the walls and roof etc of an martian house have been destroyed but he can still see a sofa on its side and a pillow...On mars...
I love lunatics.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21603490
Finally.
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Wife reckons this wouldn't be as exciting as when we landed on the moon, but I'm not sure. It'd still be amazing, and I reckon more people would watch it (even if only because TV is more accessible now). The level of exploration in generally (of our own planet, the moon, solar system and exo planets) has increased over the last few years, it's been great.
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We should be looking to conquer the moon first, then use that as a platform to go further again.
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We should be looking to conquer the moon first, then use that as a platform to go further again.
Moon is already taken. Three different races have bases on the dark side. We've been warned off. Or so I read somewhere once upon a time.
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The Clangers.
Mr. Spoon.
Hitler.
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:lol:
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We should be looking to conquer the moon first, then use that as a platform to go further again.
All ready in planning using 3d printers and moon dust.
http://planetsave.com/2013/02/03/building-a-moon-base-how-about-3d-printing-it-instead/
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We should be looking to conquer the moon first, then use that as a platform to go further again.
Moon is already taken. Three different races have bases on the dark side. We've been warned off. Or so I read somewhere once upon a time.
:lol:
That Mars mission won't happen. Not in 10 years, never mind 5.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/sky-watchers-prepare-for-onceinalifetime-chance-to-view-rare-comet-8518194.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQL1Vu37BGY
Ming on fly by....
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We should be looking to conquer the moon first, then use that as a platform to go further again.
Moon is already taken. Three different races have bases on the dark side. We've been warned off. Or so I read somewhere once upon a time.
:lol:
That Mars mission won't happen. Not in 10 years, never mind 5.
Still waiting for the moon mission.
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http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/03/08/nasa-discovers-hidden-portals-in-earths-magnetic-field/
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Wait what. Sun Gods.... oh it's a conspiracy website!
Amazing how much they read into what the original NASA article said and added their own twists.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/29jun_hiddenportals/
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That'll teach me to read more than the first paragraph. :lol:
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Been awake maybe 10 minutes, read it like 5 times to make sure I was reading it right. :lol:
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I like the article on that site that states the 101 ways why you should go Vegan.
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Didn't know where to put this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeTKdNIf814
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First thought - it's a Blimp.
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Didn't know where to put this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeTKdNIf814
Totally f***ing fake :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Or entirely fake. The cloud doesn't move as the supposed UFO flys away at some speed. When the light kicks in the image is distorted, the cloud enlargens at the point where the light comes from, but then shrinks back down to size and the light shoots off. Cloud stands still. You'd think that kind of acceleration from within a cloud would have more impact on the clouds structure.
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Quite clearly a fake.
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I'll believe when numerous car recordings in Russia surface.
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(http://maxcdn.zenpencils.com/comics/2012-08-30-armstrong.jpg?9d7bd4)
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(http://en.es-static.us/upl/2013/03/Comet_Panstarrs_3-4-2013_Michael_Goh-2_Perth_Australia.jpg)
The comet currently near Earth. Taken from Australia.
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Quite clearly a fake.
I was going to let this ride but changed my mind.
Please explain to me Joey how it is clearly a fake so I can avoid being duped in the future, thanks.
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Quite clearly a fake.
I was going to let this ride but changed my mind.
Please explain to me Joey how it is clearly a fake so I can avoid being duped in the future, thanks.
Because UFO's don't exist. They're either identified or fake. :crazy2:
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Quite clearly a fake.
I was going to let this ride but changed my mind.
Please explain to me Joey how it is clearly a fake so I can avoid being duped in the future, thanks.
Super Duper puts up good reasons. I'd also add, that when the lights appear and suddenly flash, it no longer has the pretence of being behind the cloud. Sad truth is with footage so bad, no one would ever believe anything they saw. It's incredibly simple to manipulate grainy footages these days, it's a pet project for anyone in that sort of field.
However, I know where you're coming from and the last post before this exemplifies what's wrong with answers that are so often given. Very often no-one has the skills to actually prove something is fake and will say it based on probabilities. Not directed at anyone here, by the way!
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Or entirely fake. The cloud doesn't move as the supposed UFO flys away at some speed. When the light kicks in the image is distorted, the cloud enlargens at the point where the light comes from, but then shrinks back down to size and the light shoots off. Cloud stands still. You'd think that kind of acceleration from within a cloud would have more impact on the clouds structure.
I know it will look like I'm clutching at straws but that's a Newtonian physics answer. What if the unidentified flying object generated cloud as a means of staying hidden and something is going wrong with the ... craft? When it shoots off why do we assume it has the mass necessary to cause the cloud to move in response. And it seems to me the light starts within the cloud before bursting free. The lights that fall to earth seem to waft at times, not under free-fall conditions, as if they are extremely light (weight, not bright).
Just trying to analyse what I see and not jump to conclusions, like it has to be false so that's what I see. (Not directed to you SDBS)
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Quite clearly a fake.
I was going to let this ride but changed my mind.
Please explain to me Joey how it is clearly a fake so I can avoid being duped in the future, thanks.
:lol: It is extremely clear it is fake, like. Soz.
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Or entirely fake. The cloud doesn't move as the supposed UFO flys away at some speed. When the light kicks in the image is distorted, the cloud enlargens at the point where the light comes from, but then shrinks back down to size and the light shoots off. Cloud stands still. You'd think that kind of acceleration from within a cloud would have more impact on the clouds structure.
I know it will look like I'm clutching at straws but that's a Newtonian physics answer. What if the unidentified flying object generated cloud as a means of staying hidden and something is going wrong with the ... craft? When it shoots off why do we assume it has the mass necessary to cause the cloud to move in response. And it seems to me the light starts within the cloud before bursting free. The lights that fall to earth seem to waft at times, not under free-fall conditions, as if they are extremely light (weight, not bright).
Just trying to analyse what I see and not jump to conclusions, like it has to be false so that's what I see. (Not directed to you SDBS)
Howay, man. They are clearly clouds formed by the atmosphere, going on the surrounding clouds. Even if it's mass was tiny, it would have effect on the clouds, even if it doesn't have any kind of thrust acting on it to move it, even if it moves using nothing we can comprehend, it would have an earth effect on the earth's atmosphere. The 'object', moves fast from one place to another, that would create differences in pressure, and the cloud would move from area's of high pressure to area's of lower pressure.
Look carefully at the video, at the pixels. You can very clearly see the distortion on the picture.
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^ What he said, it's amazing how all of these so called UFO sightings happens when the person who captured it just so happens to have the worst recording devices possible. If the object has mass, which lets face it, it does, any movement at all is going to cause a sort of slipstream behind it which doesn't happen.
Look at the light expanding, it's something akin to cheap phone effects, you can actually see the image blurred on that part alone.
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It doens't even need all this exploring, its cearly fake. Unless you have the worst eye sight ever. :lol: :lol:
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I've heard stats like this a million times but it still annoys me:
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/0/9/171909_slide.jpg)
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It doens't even need all this exploring, its cearly fake. Unless you have the worst eye sight ever. :lol: :lol:
Don't know what you mean.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3165/2696695090_40e47469ca_z.jpg)
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:aww:
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:lol::lol: Just seen the description underneath the vid.
Shocking, Impressive, Incredible UFO Explosion in Brasil 2012
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How fortunate. A UFO caught on video, we can put this on YouTube. Oh, we can possibly advertise underneath it too.
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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1303/MKMilkyWaypan_pacholka_600WPAP.jpg
:sweetjesus: The idea that the sky looks like that.
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http://io9.com/the-alma-telescope-has-just-made-its-first-major-discov-453522325
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http://io9.com/the-alma-telescope-has-just-made-its-first-major-discov-453522325
Those galaxies, to wonder if there might be life or other civilisations living in them :sweetjesus:
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http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Distant_planetary_system_is_a_super_sized_solar_system_999.html
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http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Distant_planetary_system_is_a_super_sized_solar_system_999.html
We just need to travel to these places. :'(
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx_4kGlbBUc
some bloke claiming, big rock gonna hit canada in 7days time......
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What do you think?
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Muslim Brotherhood. :lol:
Why did I watch that s***.
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just been informed that by the correct lunar calendar, the ides of march is 26/27th.
SOmething will happen on that day.
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I'd say that's a pretty safe bet. Something definitely will happen on both the 26th and 27th March.
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The sun will rise again.
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just been informed that by the correct lunar calendar, the ides of march is 26/27th.
SOmething will happen on that day.
Can you try and keep this stuff in the Tin Hat thread. I'll even rename it the 'Womblemaster Tin Hat Thread of Weird and Wonderful Conspiracy (Special Guest: Parky)' thread.
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(...) Space Thread about Stuff in Space (...)
How specific!
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Is this guy a forum inspector or something? Would love to know how we're doing.
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Is this guy a forum inspector or something? Would love to know how we're doing.
ISO 27001 :rose:
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Is this guy a forum inspector or something? Would love to know how we're doing.
Womblemaster's alt account.
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Is this guy a forum inspector or something? Would love to know how we're doing.
Womblemaster's alt account.
For his second personality.
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Is this guy a forum inspector or something? Would love to know how we're doing.
Womblemaster's alt account.
For his second personality.
It would have to be his first.
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http://www.distancetomars.com/
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http://www.distancetomars.com/
Nice find. Would absolutely love to go into space. Just an orbit round Earth and look down. Immense.
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http://www.distancetomars.com/
Nice find. Would absolutely love to go into space. Just an orbit round Earth and look down. Immense.
https://www2.axeapollo.com/en_GB/
:naughty:
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Friends :yao:
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http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/04/a-whole-sky-view-of-the-aurora-borealis/274735/
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Chris Hadfield just tweeted a picture of my home town taken from the space station.
Chris Hadfield @Cmdr_Hadfield
Newry, Northern Ireland, the distinctive waterway visible from space.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHax7IACUAEzUvo.jpg:large)
:D
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You live in the trees like? Fuckin' nowt there.
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just been informed that by the correct lunar calendar, the ides of march is 26/27th.
SOmething will happen on that day.
Can you try and keep this stuff in the Tin Hat thread. I'll even rename it the 'Womblemaster Tin Hat Thread of Weird and Wonderful Conspiracy (Special Guest: Parky)' thread.
Actually I'd like my name taken off it.
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I know you can barely see anything. :lol: This will give you an idea of where it is on that picture.
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Robbed from Facebook
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/483410_577558515598497_907097934_n.jpg)
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just been informed that by the correct lunar calendar, the ides of march is 26/27th.
SOmething will happen on that day.
Can you try and keep this stuff in the Tin Hat thread. I'll even rename it the 'Womblemaster Tin Hat Thread of Weird and Wonderful Conspiracy (Special Guest: Parky)' thread.
Actually I'd like my name taken off it.
:aww:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22146456
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I seen this before, so may have already asked, but is this genuine? It seems extremely ambitious:
http://mars-one.com/en/mission/summary-of-the-plan
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Would pro creation be a requirement? If so, do we get a ruing binder full of the women currently signed up? I'd happily offer as the stud male.
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All male astronauts will have to get the snip.
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Just a "2001: A Space Odyssey" music video I made some weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGhdfnb5y8I
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Just a "2001: A Space Odyssey" music video I made some weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGhdfnb5y8I
Listen to me closely:
Next thursday: Match day
THEN ON FRIDAY I'll MAKE SOME BLOOD TESTS.
VITAMIN D.
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All male astronauts will have to get the snip.
f*** that. Who wants to be the first eunuch on Mars?
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http://zoom.it/CkFj#full
Zoom in and in and in...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo
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Paddy Power doing their usual jump on a bandwagon giving specials for this guy. Mate at work put £300 on him to pass 1.5m followers on Twitter when it was 1/3 earlier today. He was on 500k at the time, now passed 1m. Easy £100.
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That is without doubt one of the most inspiring and amazing videos I've ever seen.
I'm not sure if it's sad or funny that the "special effects" look cheap …
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My sister made NASA's photo of the day. She was in Antarctica heading up an experiment to study the Van Allen Belt.
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/iotd.html (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/iotd.html)
They are number 2 in the slideshow.
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Yeah, that one. I think she is the one in the back. If she is any of the two front and center, I am going to be in for some surprise come Thanksgiving.
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Why did you quit?
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Light pollution from neighbours and not enough available hours of good weather to justify the kit.
I will return one day in the not so distant future. It's mesmerising.
agreed, although I haven't gone stargazing in awhile. I miss the old astrophysics days. I just couldn't be bothered spending another 4-5 years in school to get my phd.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1458134548/arkyd-a-space-telescope-for-everyone-0
The ARKYD is a technologically advanced, orbiting space telescope that will be controlled by YOU, the crowd, through your pledges and community involvement! You can even direct your telescope time to non-profit science centers and universities for use in your communities!
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Galaxy Centaurus A -- 12 million light years away. A 120-hour exposure taken by some guy in New Zealand with a 10" telescope:
http://www.rolfolsenastrophotography.com/Astrophotography/Centaurus-A-Extreme-Deep-Field/i-mNgSprP/0/X3/CentaurusA_LRGB_120hours_3215x2406-X3.jpg
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(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1201/freeflyer_nasa_900.jpg)
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http://earthsky.org/tonight/is-biggest-and-closest-full-moon-on-june-23-2013-a-supermoon
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http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-hubble-finds-a-true-blue-planet
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/9265051556/lightbox/
This place rains glass and "is only 2.9 million miles from its parent star, so close that it is gravitationally locked. One side always faces the star and the other side is always dark."
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http://www.universetoday.com/103611/what-the-earth-and-moon-look-like-from-saturn/
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http://www.universetoday.com/103611/what-the-earth-and-moon-look-like-from-saturn/
:lol: Earth is f***ing beautiful.
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http://www.universetoday.com/103611/what-the-earth-and-moon-look-like-from-saturn/
:lol: Earth is f***ing beautiful.
:lol:
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:lol: f*** you, Flip. I'm moved over here.
(http://i.imgur.com/F9yLQpr.jpg)
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:lol:
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America looks so good damn good from that distance.
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"Look at me. Look at me. I have the conditions to support life." Go f*** yourself, blue planet.
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Electric Universe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtFTRBSUMV8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OI77ERlDs8
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(http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzI5Lzc4L05BU0FncmFwaGljLmFjYWQ3LmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/1f2cb8d9/438/NASAgraphic55ann.jpg)
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http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/katalogos.php
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Perseid meteor shower tonight.
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(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1308/m74_hubble_960.jpg)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23872765
Life may have started on Mars before arriving on Earth, a major scientific conference has heard.
New research supports an idea that the Red Planet was a better place to kick-start biology billions of years ago than the early Earth was.
The evidence is based on how the first molecules necessary for life were assembled.
Details of the theory were outlined by Prof Steven Benner at the Goldschmidt Meeting in Florence, Italy.
Scientists have long wondered how atoms first came together to make up the three crucial molecular components of living organisms: RNA, DNA and proteins.
The evidence seems to be building that we are actually all Martians; that life started on Mars and came to Earth on a rock”
Prof Steven Benner
Westheimer Institute for Science and Technology
The molecules that combined to form genetic material are far more complex than the primordial "pre-biotic" soup of organic (carbon-based) chemicals thought to have existed on the Earth more than three billion years ago, and RNA (ribonucleic acid) is thought to have been the first of them to appear.
Simply adding energy such as heat or light to the more basic organic molecules in the "soup" does not generate RNA. Instead, it generates tar.
RNA needs to be coaxed into shape by "templating" atoms at the crystalline surfaces of minerals.
The minerals most effective at templating RNA would have dissolved in the oceans of the early Earth, but would have been more abundant on Mars, according to Prof Benner.
This could suggest that life started on the Red Planet before being transported to Earth on meteorites, argues Prof Benner, of the Westheimer Institute of Science and Technology in Gainesville, US.
The idea that life originated on Mars and was then transported to our planet has been mooted before. But Prof Benner's ideas add another twist to the theory of a Martian origin for the terrestrial biosphere.
Here in Florence, Prof Benner presented results that suggest minerals containing the elements boron and molybdenum are key in assembling atoms into life-forming molecules.
The researcher points out that boron minerals help carbohydrate rings to form from pre-biotic chemicals, and then molybdenum takes that intermediate molecule and rearranges it to form ribose, and hence RNA.
Shergottite meteorite from Mars
Meteorites from Mars have been arriving on Earth throughout our planet's history
This raises problems for how life began on Earth, since the early Earth is thought to have been unsuitable for the formation of the necessary boron and molybdenum minerals.
It is thought that the boron minerals needed to form RNA from pre-biotic soups were not available on early Earth in sufficient quantity, and the molybdenum minerals were not available in the correct chemical form.
Prof Benner explained: "It’s only when molybdenum becomes highly oxidised that it is able to influence how early life formed.
"This form of molybdenum couldn’t have been available on Earth at the time life first began, because three billion years ago, the surface of the Earth had very little oxygen, but Mars did.
"It’s yet another piece of evidence which makes it more likely life came to Earth on a Martian meteorite, rather than starting on this planet."
Early Mars is also thought to have had a drier environment, and this is also crucial to its favourable location for life's origins.
"What’s quite clear is that boron, as an element, is quite scarce in Earth’s crust," Prof Benner told BBC News, “but Mars has been drier than Earth and more oxidising, so if Earth is not suitable for the chemistry, Mars might be.
"The evidence seems to be building that we are actually all Martians; that life started on Mars and came to Earth on a rock," he commented.
"It’s lucky that we ended up here, nevertheless - as certainly Earth has been the better of the two planets for sustaining life. If our hypothetical Martian ancestors had remained on Mars, there may not have been a story to tell."
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(http://www.apostoliclighthouse.org/Lesson1-3_files/image002.jpg)
No sign of Mars there, so it can't be true.
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WHERE THE f*** DID INSECTS COME FROM THEN?!
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Bung them in with the animals on day 6 mara.
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Has anybody been out stargazing in Kielder (apparently its good for it)?
Coming home for a week and fancied a romantic night with the lass.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toenH2Xq7Vk
SPace travel not possible without lead space ships?
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Has anybody been out stargazing in Kielder (apparently its good for it)?
Coming home for a week and fancied a romantic night with the lass.
might wanna talk to this bunch......
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nastromail/?fref=ts
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toenH2Xq7Vk
SPace travel not possible without lead space ships?
This amount of radiation was expected wasn't it?
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http://www.nasa.gov
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:lol:
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http://io9.com/astronomers-discover-a-massive-asteroid-that-could-hit-1447068835
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That means it has a 99.9984% chance of missing the Earth.
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It's been fun, folks.
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Still waiting to hear if the NSF will cut my sister's Antarctica experiment for this year. So many research projects were utterly ruined by the government shutdown. Would be such a shame, as she's been working on this for 6 years.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~barrel/index.html (http://www.dartmouth.edu/~barrel/index.html)
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Found this amusing (very) short story about the search for alien life:
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:mou:
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I'm never sure. Does that Mourinho mean good? Bad? Sad? Full undercrackers?
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:lol: I've been using it as a "Not bad" alternative.
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"It's okay but I'm far from impressed" is how I see it.
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He's so enigmatic, that Portuguese motherfucker.
"far from impressed" does not fit to the frankly awesome story I posted.
Were the rest of the story terrible, this alone is gold:
They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat.
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Who gives a s***??
READ THE f***ing STORY!!!!
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Who gives a s***??
READ THE f***ing STORY!!!!
I READ IT!
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Who gives a s***??
READ THE f***ing STORY!!!!
I READ IT!
Me too, now i'm hungry for a steak sandwich though
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Who gives a s***??
Well, you, for one! :lol:
Yeah, sorry. I'm a moody drunk.
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MAVEN launch live stream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/6540154
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some shot of comet going past the sun.....like a phoenix....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k0oiRQCWB8
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=656736237710942&set=vb.232532740131296&type=2&theater
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http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/comet-ison-may-have-survived/#.UpjuHfJlmrh
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am sure this is pure coincidence *cough*
http://breakingthenewstoday.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/nasa-discussing-today-11-29-13.html
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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/bad_astronomy/2013/12/the_universe_in_pictures_the_best_space_photos_of_2013.single.html
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http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2013/07/24/supermassive-black-hole-stretches-gas-cloud/#.UsjC4PRdXjJ
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25598051
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http://www.universetoday.com/107680/three-meter-asteroid-hits-earths-atmosphere/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/01/01/moon_and_andromeda_relative_size_in_the_sky.html
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solar flare event friday.... (thurs evening/early friday)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuZ8Kz_xxyQ
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http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/206-visually-confirmed-enormous-craft-detected-on-moon (http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/206-visually-confirmed-enormous-craft-detected-on-moon)
:frantic:
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http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/206-visually-confirmed-enormous-craft-detected-on-moon (http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/206-visually-confirmed-enormous-craft-detected-on-moon)
:frantic:
you can supposedly see it on google sky
we're all going to die. this is why the chinese were in such a rush to get up there. theyve no doubt made friends by now :frantic:
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http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/206-visually-confirmed-enormous-craft-detected-on-moon (http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/206-visually-confirmed-enormous-craft-detected-on-moon)
:frantic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmRwQCoK_XY
:frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
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M82 supernova
(http://i.imgur.com/NcIvIAa.jpg)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/01/23/supernova_adam_block_photo_of_the_exploding_star_in_m82.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/01/23/supernova_adam_block_photo_of_the_exploding_star_in_m82.html)
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Yeah, but is there a base on there?
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:lol:
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/75688_10151992533173924_1374893071_n.jpg)
Impact crater on Mars.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-037
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26605974
Boom!
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So, I'd the universe did exponentially grow in those first few millionths of a millisecond, why did it slow? Surely that means there was resistance?
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So, I'd the universe did exponentially grow in those first few millionths of a millisecond, why did it slow? Surely that means there was resistance?
Dark Energy, our Universe expanding up against another, slowing its rapid expansion??
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So, I'd the universe did exponentially grow in those first few millionths of a millisecond, why did it slow? Surely that means there was resistance?
There is a reason, and I've tried to understand it, but I just can't get my head around it. Cosmology just blows my mind.
It's to do with the cosmological horizons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_horizons), which are a measure of how far space goes (or how far the energy/matter from the Big Bang have traveled at a particular time. Because of this, the horizons are always getting bigger. From what I understand, this theory says there was a cosmological horizon at the instant of the Big Bang that was constants (i.e. not moving). Inflation (this rapid expansion) happened as the energy and matter rushed towards the cosmic horizon. When it reached this, it slowed down and the horizon starting expanding with the universe.
This explanation is heavily simplified, and as I'm not a physicist, probably wrong.
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Imagine an explosion in slow motion, massive massive force in the early stages then disapating widely at slower and slower speeds
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA
The moment the guy who came up with the theory was told his life's work had been proven correct.
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I like how his wife 'gets it' first.
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I like how his wife 'gets it' first.
She's a physicist who worked on the same theory.
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My head hurts after trying to understand this. I'm going to watch Cosmos instead and let Neil Tyson dumb it all down for me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA
The moment the guy who came up with the theory was told his life's work had been proven correct.
I have no idea of the science but that is awesome :aww:
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Lots of words, The End
Everyone seems happy, yay :aww:
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Five-sigma refers to the probability of their results being correct. If you ever used standard deviation, it means the results are five standard deviations away from the normal, and the chances of them just being due to luck are about 1 in 3.5 million.
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:thup:
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Five-sigma refers to the probability of their results being correct. If you ever used standard deviation, it means the results are five standard deviations away from the normal, and the chances of them just being due to luck are about 1 in 3.5 million.
wat
:yao:
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Sorry, I slipped up and put some GCSE maths in there.
5-sigma is how scientists say that their results are 99.999999% likely to be correct.
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:yao:
Jk, just love a yao
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(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/supersewelly/yao_zps24b88c5c.png)
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:lol:
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Sorry, I slipped up and put some GCSE maths in there.
5-sigma is how scientists say that their results are 99.999999% likely to be correct.
:lol:
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So, I'd the universe did exponentially grow in those first few millionths of a millisecond, why did it slow? Surely that means there was resistance?
There is a reason, and I've tried to understand it, but I just can't get my head around it. Cosmology just blows my mind.
It's to do with the cosmological horizons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_horizons), which are a measure of how far space goes (or how far the energy/matter from the Big Bang have traveled at a particular time. Because of this, the horizons are always getting bigger. From what I understand, this theory says there was a cosmological horizon at the instant of the Big Bang that was constants (i.e. not moving). Inflation (this rapid expansion) happened as the energy and matter rushed towards the cosmic horizon. When it reached this, it slowed down and the horizon starting expanding with the universe.
This explanation is heavily simplified, and as I'm not a physicist, probably wrong.
Ah, so essentially it slowed itself down?
That would make sense If it's true it was expanding in to literally, absolutely nothing. Nada. No time or space, because if time or space existed in some form for it to expand it to, it'd have some kind if space without boundary?
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Think of it like an deflated balloon. There are boundaries, but there is nothing filling them. Then start blowing it up, the air rapidly fills the insides, once it has done that the balloon (and its boundaries) start to expand.
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Did anyone of any scientific expertise watch What Happened Before the Big Bang? I thought it was cracking but, as much as it's a subject that's really interested me for a few years now, my scientific understanding is pretty limited.
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Did anyone of any scientific expertise watch What Happened Before the Big Bang? I thought it was cracking but, as much as it's a subject that's really interested me for a few years now, my scientific understanding is pretty limited.
I've not seen it, but there was no before the Big Bang. Time and gravity are related - the higher the gravity, the slower time goes (a clock in orbit will go slightly (a very very tiny amount) faster than one on Earth). At the moment of the Big Bang everything existed as a singularity, meaning all matter and energy was packed into a single point, and gravity was infinite. Infinite gravity means time doesn't move. Time literally started when the cosmos did.
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Time as we know it
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA17958
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http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/big-bang-einsteins-relativity-theory-backed-by-newwave-discovery-20140318-350eq.html
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http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/big-bang-einsteins-relativity-theory-backed-by-newwave-discovery-20140318-350eq.html
Looking at that, Harvard University looks a lot smaller than I thought it would be.
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NASA Space Assets Detect Ocean inside Saturn Moon
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-103
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Lush
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzYJaQ0h4Dg
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Really interesting comment (http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/22pi7o/eli5_why_does_light_travel/cgp58ml) on Reddit.
Why does light travel?
Everything, by nature of simply existing, is "moving" at the speed of light (which really has nothing to do with light: more on that later). Yes, that does include you.
Our understanding of the universe is that the way that we perceive space and time as separate things is, to be frank, wrong. They aren't separate: the universe is made of "spacetime," all one word. A year and a lightyear describe different things in our day to day lives, but from a physicist's point of view, they're actually the exact same thing (depending on what kind of physics you're doing).
In our day to day lives, we define motion as a distance traveled over some amount of time. However, if distances and intervals of time are the exact same thing, that suddenly becomes completely meaningless. "I traveled one foot for every foot that I traveled" is an absolutely absurd statement!
The way it works is that everything in the universe travels through spacetime at some speed which I'll call "c" for the sake of brevity. Remember, motion in spacetime is meaningless, so it makes sense that nothing could be "faster" or "slower" through spacetime than anything else. Everybody and everything travels at one foot per foot, that's just... how it works.
Obviously, though, things do seem to have different speeds. The reason that happens is that time and space are orthogonal, which is sort of a fancy term for "at right angles to each other." North and east, for example, are orthogonal: you can travel as far as you want directly to the north, but it's not going to affect where you are in terms of east/west at all.
Just like how you can travel north without traveling east, you can travel through time without it affecting where you are in space. Conversely, you can travel through space without it affecting where you are in time.
You're (presumably) sitting in your chair right now, which means you're not traveling through space at all. Since you have to travel through spacetime at c (speed of light), though, that means all of your motion is through time.
By the way, this is why time dilation happens: something that's moving very fast relative to you is moving through space, but since they can only travel through spacetime at c, they have to be moving more slowly through time to compensate (from your point of view).
Light, on the other hand, doesn't travel through time at all. The reason it doesn't is somewhat complicated, but it has to do with the fact that it has no mass.
Something that isn't moving that has mass can have energy: that's what E = mc2 means. Light has no mass, but it does have energy. If we plug the mass of light into E=mc2, we get 0, which makes no sense because light has energy. Hence, light can never be stationary.
Not only that, but light can never be stationary from anybody's perspective. Since, like everything else, it travels at c through spacetime, that means all of its "spacetime speed" must be through space, and none of it is through time.
So, light travels at c. Not at all by coincidence, you'll often hear c referred to as the "speed of light in a vacuum." Really, though, it's the speed that everything travels at, and it happens to be the speed that light travels through space at because it has no mass.
edit: By the way, this also covers the common ELI5 question of why nothing can ever travel faster than light, and why things with mass cannot travel at the speed of light. Since everything moves through spacetime at c, nothing can ever exceed it (and no, traveling backwards in time would not fix that). Also, things with mass can always be "stationary" from someone's perspective (like their own), so they always have to move through time at least a little bit, meaning they can never travel through space as fast as light does. They'd have to travel through spacetime faster than c to do that, which, again, is not possible.
edit: Holy s***, thank you for all the kind words.
To those of you asking questions, please do a quick look-through of the thread before you ask. I'm getting questions faster than I can answer them, and a lot of them are repeats that I have to just ignore.
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Solar Eclipse. As seen from the Moon.
http://www.iflscience.com/space/jaxas-kaguya-orbiter-captures-unique-solar-eclipse
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http://vimeo.com/19231255
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0bKE10ZDM
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http://vimeo.com/19231255
the buildup to and sounds when jupiter passes :smitten:
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I caught a canny prog on Eden last sunday "How Big Is The Universe", quite an intersting program/documentry. The bit that interested me was the last 20 minutes.
The scientists were trying to find a way of measuring the universe to see if it was round. They came up with a solution of finding 3 stars or equal size and light consistency, then draw a trianle between them. This should then give you curved sides of the trianle if the universe is round. What they found was the lines just seemed to keep on going, their conclusion is the universe is flat and is constantly growing.
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https://www.ras.org.uk/publications/other-publications/2035-cosmology-flat-universe
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Think I've seen that programme (or one covering the same subject)
Absolutely amazing :thup:
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Really interesting comment (http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/22pi7o/eli5_why_does_light_travel/cgp58ml) on Reddit.
Why does light travel?
Everything, by nature of simply existing, is "moving" at the speed of light (which really has nothing to do with light: more on that later). Yes, that does include you.
Our understanding of the universe is that the way that we perceive space and time as separate things is, to be frank, wrong. They aren't separate: the universe is made of "spacetime," all one word. A year and a lightyear describe different things in our day to day lives, but from a physicist's point of view, they're actually the exact same thing (depending on what kind of physics you're doing).
In our day to day lives, we define motion as a distance traveled over some amount of time. However, if distances and intervals of time are the exact same thing, that suddenly becomes completely meaningless. "I traveled one foot for every foot that I traveled" is an absolutely absurd statement!
The way it works is that everything in the universe travels through spacetime at some speed which I'll call "c" for the sake of brevity. Remember, motion in spacetime is meaningless, so it makes sense that nothing could be "faster" or "slower" through spacetime than anything else. Everybody and everything travels at one foot per foot, that's just... how it works.
Obviously, though, things do seem to have different speeds. The reason that happens is that time and space are orthogonal, which is sort of a fancy term for "at right angles to each other." North and east, for example, are orthogonal: you can travel as far as you want directly to the north, but it's not going to affect where you are in terms of east/west at all.
Just like how you can travel north without traveling east, you can travel through time without it affecting where you are in space. Conversely, you can travel through space without it affecting where you are in time.
You're (presumably) sitting in your chair right now, which means you're not traveling through space at all. Since you have to travel through spacetime at c (speed of light), though, that means all of your motion is through time.
By the way, this is why time dilation happens: something that's moving very fast relative to you is moving through space, but since they can only travel through spacetime at c, they have to be moving more slowly through time to compensate (from your point of view).
Light, on the other hand, doesn't travel through time at all. The reason it doesn't is somewhat complicated, but it has to do with the fact that it has no mass.
Something that isn't moving that has mass can have energy: that's what E = mc2 means. Light has no mass, but it does have energy. If we plug the mass of light into E=mc2, we get 0, which makes no sense because light has energy. Hence, light can never be stationary.
Not only that, but light can never be stationary from anybody's perspective. Since, like everything else, it travels at c through spacetime, that means all of its "spacetime speed" must be through space, and none of it is through time.
So, light travels at c. Not at all by coincidence, you'll often hear c referred to as the "speed of light in a vacuum." Really, though, it's the speed that everything travels at, and it happens to be the speed that light travels through space at because it has no mass.
edit: By the way, this also covers the common ELI5 question of why nothing can ever travel faster than light, and why things with mass cannot travel at the speed of light. Since everything moves through spacetime at c, nothing can ever exceed it (and no, traveling backwards in time would not fix that). Also, things with mass can always be "stationary" from someone's perspective (like their own), so they always have to move through time at least a little bit, meaning they can never travel through space as fast as light does. They'd have to travel through spacetime faster than c to do that, which, again, is not possible.
edit: Holy s***, thank you for all the kind words.
To those of you asking questions, please do a quick look-through of the thread before you ask. I'm getting questions faster than I can answer them, and a lot of them are repeats that I have to just ignore.
I sometimes wish I'd chosen physics and not biology. This sort of stuff is amazing.
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Watched 'Do we really need the Moon' on BBC4 last night. Really good too.
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Watched 'Do we really need the Moon' on BBC4 last night. Really good too.
Was the answer "Hell yeah!"?
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:lol: Damn right, Mike. I'll give you a little snippet. The moon is moving away from us at 3.5cm a year. If the moon keeps getting further away then Earth loses it's stabilising effect and starts rocking. Then we're f***ed
There were many other scenarios that told us if the moon wasn't pretty much exactly were it is, we're f***ed.
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3.5cm a year
Shhheeeeeiiiitttttt :frantic:
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:lol: Damn right, Mike. I'll give you a little snippet. The moon is moving away from us at 3.5cm a year. If the moon keeps getting further away then Earth loses it's stabilising effect and starts rocking. Then we're f***ed
There were many other scenarios that told us if the moon wasn't pretty much exactly were it is, we're f***ed.
:lol: I already knew that moving away s***, tbh. :memeyeah:
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:lol:
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Watched 'Do we really need the Moon' on BBC4 last night. Really good too.
Just finished watching it now, really interesting.
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That woman's canny annoying though isn't she?
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Y'all been watching Cosmos?
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Nah, need to get on it though.
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Nah, need to get on it though.
Oh my god, man. It's too good.
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I love space stuff, Cosmos is great... :smitten:
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Aren't we as in Earth and the Moon classed as a twin planet, no other plents have a moon like ours in our solar system or any of the exoplanets they have found around other stars??
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Nah, don't think so. The prevailing theory ATM is that our moon used to be a planet and we smashed into one another, iirc.
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Nah, don't think so. The prevailing theory ATM is that our moon used to be a planet and we smashed into one another, iirc.
Linkage mooncat?
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Nah, don't think so. The prevailing theory ATM is that our moon used to be a planet and we smashed into one another, iirc.
Think it's moved on from being a theory to being generally accepted.
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So the moon was a planet in its own right, we (earth) was struck by another body moving it closer to the moon's orbit?
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The Earth and a Mars sized planet collided, the moon formed from the debris. Very quick summary.
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Seems about right, I can live with that.
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You'd better, or else we're gonna have issues, petal.
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Settle doon kidda, or i'll knock ya doon.
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Aren't we as in Earth and the Moon classed as a twin planet, no other plents have a moon like ours in our solar system or any of the exoplanets they have found around other stars??
That's something a sci-fi author came up with.
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So the moon was a planet in its own right, we (earth) was struck by another body moving it closer to the moon's orbit?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis
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Im not really that arsed about the moon, I find it a bit s*** in the grand scheme of things. I would go if I was ever offered the chance but as far as planetary bodies n moons go its a bit s***. Not my favourite space object.
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:lol: Bit harsh on the moon, tbh.
What's your favorite space object then? We'll s*** on that.
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:lol: Bit harsh on the moon, tbh.
What's your favorite space object then? We'll s*** on that.
S'pose blackholes are canny.
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27632582
Amazing. Just look at the displays ffs. The future is now.
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Im not really that arsed about the moon, I find it a bit s*** in the grand scheme of things. I would go if I was ever offered the chance but as far as planetary bodies n moons go its a bit s***. Not my favourite space object.
The moon doesnt give a s*** about you, either
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The last episode of Mad Men got me thinking. Will there every be an event like the moon landing again, where every single person is watching history being made on TV? And will it happen in our lifetimes?
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9/11?
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Settle down Palin.
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:lol: Most of the world watched, and it certainly changed history. Ticks his boxes, imo.
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:lol: Most of the world watched, and it certainly changed history. Ticks his boxes, imo.
:lol: I mean something like mankind doing something that's never been done before, breaking new ground, boldly going where no man has gone before. Not a terrorist attack.
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First contact, if it ever happens.
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:lol: Most of the world watched, and it certainly changed history. Ticks his boxes, imo.
:lol: I mean something like mankind doing something that's never been done before, breaking new ground, boldly going where no man has gone before. Not a terrorist attack.
9/11 was it. Flying planes into world famous skyscrapers is about as bold as you can get IMO. Everyone remembers where they were when it happened
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Im not really that arsed about the moon, I find it a bit s*** in the grand scheme of things. I would go if I was ever offered the chance but as far as planetary bodies n moons go its a bit s***. Not my favourite space object.
yet it's the second most important to object for us to live on earth.
First contact, if it ever happens.
Already has. Just the public don't know it
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First contact, if it ever happens.
Already has. Just the public don't know it
(http://i.imgur.com/KNWDGmy.png)
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:lol: :clap:
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Ooooh Spacey.
(http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/14-151-hubble_2.jpg)
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27632582
Amazing. Just look at the displays ffs. The future is now.
1:30 onwards was just like watching Kerbal Space Program in ultra HD, except smoother, and without the explosion at the end
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Im not really that arsed about the moon, I find it a bit s*** in the grand scheme of things. I would go if I was ever offered the chance but as far as planetary bodies n moons go its a bit s***. Not my favourite space object.
The moon doesnt give a s*** about you, either
Good!
I hate it!
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HD Camera live stream from side of the iss.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload
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HD Camera live stream from side of the iss.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload
:lol: Just in time to see the dark side of Earth.
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:lol: Look now clever dick.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1fvMSs9cps
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Holy s***.
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I have no idea what I just watched, but it was both large and impressive.
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It still amazes me that everything we see is actually in the past, it's obviously not a hard thing to grasp, but what we see of the sun is 7 mins in the past, and to think everything we are seeing could have happened millions if not billions of years in the past, and that area of space could look so different now to how we see it currently.
Going into alien speak now, who knows there could be an advanced alien civilisation out there that we can't see, as we a gassing millions of years into the past, hell even what we see from the closest star to our solar system occurred 4 years ago. If you think about it, if humans ever do want to travel the stars and a decent (warp) speed, it is going to be so hard to find a planet that is inhabitable, not just because it would be like finding a needle in a hay stack, but if we do find a planet that suits our needs, what we are seeing of that planet could be thousand even millions of years ago to our eye's, so when we get there it could be a ruin and completely different to how we see it back here on earth.
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I have no idea what I just watched, but it was both large and impressive.
Supernova, shirley?
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We will never find any other advanced life forms because we will be extinct in the blink of a eye (in cosmic terms)
That not to say they aren't out there but our paths will never cross unfortunately
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I have no idea what I just watched, but it was both large and impressive.
Supernova, shirley?
4 year Hubble timelapse of a Stellar explosion.
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We will never find any other advanced life forms because we will be extinct in the blink of a eye (in cosmic terms)
That not to say they aren't out there but our paths will never cross unfortunately
This.
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It still amazes me that everything we see is actually in the past, it's obviously not a hard thing to grasp, but what we see of the sun is 7 mins in the past, and to think everything we are seeing could have happened millions if not billions of years in the past, and that area of space could look so different now to how we see it currently.
Going into alien speak now, who knows there could be an advanced alien civilisation out there that we can't see, as we a gassing millions of years into the past, hell even what we see from the closest star to our solar system occurred 4 years ago. If you think about it, if humans ever do want to travel the stars and a decent (warp) speed, it is going to be so hard to find a planet that is inhabitable, not just because it would be like finding a needle in a hay stack, but if we do find a planet that suits our needs, what we are seeing of that planet could be thousand even millions of years ago to our eye's, so when we get there it could be a ruin and completely different to how we see it back here on earth.
We'd have to find the planet first, though. If we ever get off this rock, we'd probably hop from place to place. We gotta conquer radiation first, though. We can barely get to Mars atm, iirc.
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I have no idea what I just watched, but it was both large and impressive.
Supernova, shirley?
4 year Hubble timelapse of a Stellar explosion.
:lol: Isn't that the same s***?
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:lol: Aye. I added the 4 year timelapse bit though before needlessly changing your terminology.
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We will never find any other advanced life forms because we will be extinct in the blink of a eye (in cosmic terms)
That not to say they aren't out there but our paths will never cross unfortunately
There will obviously be a time when humans become extinct, but I reckon we will have a good spell before that happens. If dinosaurs can survive millions of year, why can't we we are a much smarter race (although that could be our downfall) and at the rate at which technology is evolving, I reckon we have a decent chance of meeting a species of animal not native to this planet, whether they are advanced or not is another matter.
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We will never find any other advanced life forms because we will be extinct in the blink of a eye (in cosmic terms)
That not to say they aren't out there but our paths will never cross unfortunately
(http://i.imgur.com/rPlu0Qe.jpg)
Give it time.
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We will never find any other advanced life forms because we will be extinct in the blink of a eye (in cosmic terms)
That not to say they aren't out there but our paths will never cross unfortunately
There will obviously be a time when humans become extinct.
Get off Earth and we'll finally beat the dinosaurs. Get out of this solar system and we'll exist as long as this galaxy and Andromeda (which is going to collide with us in a few billion years) exist. Get out of a f***ing Galaxy and we'll be there to watch the universe die.
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We will never find any other advanced life forms because we will be extinct in the blink of a eye (in cosmic terms)
That not to say they aren't out there but our paths will never cross unfortunately
There will obviously be a time when humans become extinct, but I reckon we will have a good spell before that happens. If dinosaurs can survive millions of year, why can't we we are a much smarter race (although that could be our downfall) and at the rate at which technology is evolving, I reckon we have a decent chance of meeting a species of animal not native to this planet, whether they are advanced or not is another matter.
It certainly will. The major problem (notwithstanding the physical constrains) will be meet another species at the right maturity as ourselves to even communicate with.
We might come across a planet with Dinosaur equivalents, but what use would that be.
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On a similar subject, why can't you travel faster then the speed of light? I have never really got the concept, at the end of the day that is just a certain speed, if something is powerful enough why can't you go above the speed of light.
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We might come across a planet with Dinosaur equivalents, but what use would that be.
Brontosaurus bugers, ffs.
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We will never find any other advanced life forms because we will be extinct in the blink of a eye (in cosmic terms)
That not to say they aren't out there but our paths will never cross unfortunately
There will obviously be a time when humans become extinct.
Get off Earth and we'll finally beat the dinosaurs. Get out of this solar system and we'll exist as long as this galaxy and Andromeda (which is going to collide with us in a few billion years) exist. Get out of a f***ing Galaxy and we'll be there to watch the universe die.
The human race has only managed power flight in the last 100 odd years. That's not even the blink of an eye tbh.
A super virus will most likely take care of us in the long run.
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We might come across a planet with Dinosaur equivalents, but what use would that be.
Brontosaurus bugers, ffs.
McDonalds will open a restaurant, and still claim to use local ingredients. :lol:
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On a similar subject, why can't you travel faster then the speed of light? I have never really got the concept, at the end of the day that is just a certain speed, if something is powerful enough why can't you go above the speed of light.
Isn't it a universal constant or something like that?
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Because photons have no mass.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
Knock yourselves out.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
Knock yourselves out.
Erm, eer, yeah that.
:yao:
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Some light bedtime reading there :)
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http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
:lol: f***ing Branko.
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:lol: I don't understand what I posted, for the record. I know of Special Relativity. I like the look of your link though :lol:
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:lol: I don't understand what I posted, for the record. I know of Special Relativity. I like the look of your link though :lol:
:lol: Yeah? Scroll down a bit.
:yao: Simple.
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On a similar subject, why can't you travel faster then the speed of light? I have never really got the concept, at the end of the day that is just a certain speed, if something is powerful enough why can't you go above the speed of light.
Really interesting comment (http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/22pi7o/eli5_why_does_light_travel/cgp58ml) on Reddit.
Why does light travel?
Everything, by nature of simply existing, is "moving" at the speed of light (which really has nothing to do with light: more on that later). Yes, that does include you.
Our understanding of the universe is that the way that we perceive space and time as separate things is, to be frank, wrong. They aren't separate: the universe is made of "spacetime," all one word. A year and a lightyear describe different things in our day to day lives, but from a physicist's point of view, they're actually the exact same thing (depending on what kind of physics you're doing).
In our day to day lives, we define motion as a distance traveled over some amount of time. However, if distances and intervals of time are the exact same thing, that suddenly becomes completely meaningless. "I traveled one foot for every foot that I traveled" is an absolutely absurd statement!
The way it works is that everything in the universe travels through spacetime at some speed which I'll call "c" for the sake of brevity. Remember, motion in spacetime is meaningless, so it makes sense that nothing could be "faster" or "slower" through spacetime than anything else. Everybody and everything travels at one foot per foot, that's just... how it works.
Obviously, though, things do seem to have different speeds. The reason that happens is that time and space are orthogonal, which is sort of a fancy term for "at right angles to each other." North and east, for example, are orthogonal: you can travel as far as you want directly to the north, but it's not going to affect where you are in terms of east/west at all.
Just like how you can travel north without traveling east, you can travel through time without it affecting where you are in space. Conversely, you can travel through space without it affecting where you are in time.
You're (presumably) sitting in your chair right now, which means you're not traveling through space at all. Since you have to travel through spacetime at c (speed of light), though, that means all of your motion is through time.
By the way, this is why time dilation happens: something that's moving very fast relative to you is moving through space, but since they can only travel through spacetime at c, they have to be moving more slowly through time to compensate (from your point of view).
Light, on the other hand, doesn't travel through time at all. The reason it doesn't is somewhat complicated, but it has to do with the fact that it has no mass.
Something that isn't moving that has mass can have energy: that's what E = mc2 means. Light has no mass, but it does have energy. If we plug the mass of light into E=mc2, we get 0, which makes no sense because light has energy. Hence, light can never be stationary.
Not only that, but light can never be stationary from anybody's perspective. Since, like everything else, it travels at c through spacetime, that means all of its "spacetime speed" must be through space, and none of it is through time.
So, light travels at c. Not at all by coincidence, you'll often hear c referred to as the "speed of light in a vacuum." Really, though, it's the speed that everything travels at, and it happens to be the speed that light travels through space at because it has no mass.
edit: By the way, this also covers the common ELI5 question of why nothing can ever travel faster than light, and why things with mass cannot travel at the speed of light. Since everything moves through spacetime at c, nothing can ever exceed it (and no, traveling backwards in time would not fix that). Also, things with mass can always be "stationary" from someone's perspective (like their own), so they always have to move through time at least a little bit, meaning they can never travel through space as fast as light does. They'd have to travel through spacetime faster than c to do that, which, again, is not possible.
edit: Holy s***, thank you for all the kind words.
To those of you asking questions, please do a quick look-through of the thread before you ask. I'm getting questions faster than I can answer them, and a lot of them are repeats that I have to just ignore.
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For more of a mechanical answer just consider that to keep accelerating faster and faster requires more and more energy, eg to accelerate from 2mph to 3mph requires less energy than 102mph to 103mph. The difference in energy for that example will be minuscule, not even worth considering but when you reach speeds closer to the speed of light the energy required increases exponentially and tends towards c, the speed of light.
(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd372/DBKelley2/LorentzFactor-Graph.jpg)
Basically that graph shows energy required vs speed. The blue line will never meet the green, it will just keep growing. So in theory there is nothing to stop you getting to 0.99999999999999999999% the speed of light if you have a few universes of energy somewhere but you simply cannot reach it no matter how much energy you put behind something.
As to why that is then there are the mountains of philosophy posted above to wade through :lol:
There's an equation (the relativistic kinetic energy one) in the following link which you can sit and put different masses and speeds into to see the energy required if you're as boring as me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_factor
If it's maths you prefer just look at that equation and you will see there is a " 1 - v^2 / c^2 " term as a divider, as v tends to c, 1-v^2/c^2 tends to 0. It's this division by 0 (or rather the limit of this) which leads to the curve on the graph above.
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Another explanation would be that we can't go faster than the speed of light because we actually live in a computer simulation of a universe, the designer of which programmed the universal speed limit as such. Because an artificial computer-generated universe is theoretically possible and duplicates of that universe could be created, it stands to reason that there is a greater chance we live in a computer-generated universe than an actual one. This, of course, is not a particularly useful explanation, but is one that blows people's minds at parties.
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Is the speed of light in this computer programmers world the fastest possible speed, then?
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Worst programmer ever.
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Space and time are linked. You're always moving at a constant speed, c, which is divided between space and time. The less you move in space, the more you move in time and vice-versa. Light doesn't move in time at all, so all of its speed (c) is in space, which is the maximum possible.
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Space and time are linked. You're always moving at a constant speed, c, which is divided between space and time. The less you move in space, the more you move in time and vice-versa. Light doesn't move in time at all, so all of its speed (c) is in space, which is the maximum possible.
Is this reasoning not slightly flawed as light isn't always travelling at c?
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If the speed of light is constant, how does a blackhole come into it?
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Even light can be affected by gravity.
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But I thought the speed of light was constant, if gravity effects it then it can be altered?
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Sorry, c is the speed of light in a vacuum. I oversimplified.
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So c is constant but in space it does have variables, if you could create a gravity field for example that could increase the speed of light (or decrease it)?
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How would gravity increase the speed of light? In a vacuum, light travels at c, no faster. In a medium, it slows slightly (kind of like friction).
Black holes don't slow light The reason light can't escape is that they bend space around itself, meaning speed doesn't matter.
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So c is constant but in space it does have variables, if you could create a gravity field for example that could increase the speed of light (or decrease it)?
Higher gravity slows time, so light can still be going at 300 million metres/second locally, it's just that a second at that location lasts a lot longer than, well, a second.
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I get it now, sorry for being a dunce
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Can anyone explain this whole universe expanding business? If the universe is everything, then it can't really expand, can it? Expansion is comparative and would require something to measure against, wouldn't it? If the universe is everything then there's nothing else to measure expansion against.
Also, thanks liberal arts education.
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Can anyone explain this whole universe expanding business? If the universe is everything, then it can't really expand, can it? Expansion is comparative and would require something to measure against, wouldn't it? If the universe is everything then there's nothing else to measure expansion against.
Also, thanks liberal arts education.
If the universe is everything then it isn't expanding into anything by definition. If the universe isn't everything then it is expanding into something but since we're confined to the universe we have no way of telling what that something is. Either way it doesn't matter with how scientists have defined expansion.
I don't see expansion necessarily as comparative but I suppose it is since you compare anything you say to be expanding to its surroundings even if you don't realise.. but anyway its more of a stretch if anything, the way I was taught at school is to imagine you've got a deflated balloon and you draw two dots on it and then you blow it up. The dots represent galaxies and the balloon is the universe. But it gets a bit tricky since the distance between two points in the universe doesn't change with the expansion, because the distance between the two points has also expanded. There's a point at which expansion is overwhelmed by local forces such as gravity which is why we aren't expanding too but I haven't a clue how or why that is.
So then you say well how can we tell if the distance doesn't change, well if you know that red as a colour has a longer wavelength than blue/purple and you've ever heard a car coming towards you and then moving away you can picture it. If we observe something bright in a far off galaxy, of which we know the conditions/composition eg a supernova, we can compare the light reaching earth to the light spectra we get from lab values here on earth. What we see is that light from supernovae far off is more red than expected which shows a stretching of the wavelength which implies that the supernova is moving away from us (as we are from it), just like how soundwaves from a car stretch out after it has passed us.
that's only a-level stuff there might be someone on here with a physics degree who will tell you I'm entirely wrong but that's how I understand it to be :lol:
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:lol: The whole "What is the Universe....in?!" s*** constantly has me like
(http://i.imgur.com/7WdKcPv.gif)
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:lol: The whole "What is the Universe....in?!" s*** constantly has me like
(http://i.imgur.com/7WdKcPv.gif)
Milk, the universe is in milk.
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Physics is ridiculous. I'm glad I chose the easy option and went into genetics.
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:lol: The whole "What is the Universe....in?!" s*** constantly has me like
(http://i.imgur.com/7WdKcPv.gif)
Milk, the universe is in milk.
It's turtles all the way down
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Physics is ridiculous. I'm glad I chose the easy option and went into genetics.
:lol: Yes. I love physics, and I tell myself I didn't do it cos I hate maths, but in reality half the time I just don't f***ing get it. I love feeling that out of my depth, but not professionally.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/meet-the-nasa-employee-whose-job-it-is-to-sniff-everything-before-it-goes-into-space-9579047.html?origin=internalSearch
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http://www.iflscience.com/space/canada-and-nasa-partner-intercept-potentially-hazardous-asteroid
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http://www.iflscience.com/space/canada-and-nasa-partner-intercept-potentially-hazardous-asteroid
Doing something now to save Earth in 2180 is incredible.
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Physics is ridiculous. I'm glad I chose the easy option and went into genetics.
:lol: Yes. I love physics, and I tell myself I didn't do it cos I hate maths, but in reality half the time I just don't f***ing get it. I love feeling that out of my depth, but not professionally.
I have a degree in it, and half the time I just don't f***ing get it. So don't feel bad.
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http://www.iflscience.com/space/black-holes-may-collapse-their-exact-opposites-white-holes
Is this article saying, essentially, that even though there is a theorised black hole at the centre of most, if not all, galaxies, that there actually won't be a black hole there any more, but it's effects still are, being the reason why everything is being attracted to it, even though it's no longer a black hole?
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http://www.iflscience.com/space/black-holes-may-collapse-their-exact-opposites-white-holes
Is this article saying, essentially, that even though there is a theorised black hole at the centre of most, if not all, galaxies, that there actually won't be a black hole there any more, but it's effects still are, being the reason why everything is being attracted to it, even though it's no longer a black hole?
f*** knows.
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Yes it is basically saying that. Spacetime around the black hole, well beyond its event horizon, has been distorted so much that essentially it is as if the black hole is still there.
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Live Launch in 10 mins.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/6540154
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Man, watching this whole "How rockets work" thing...I was so close to getting it right on Kerbal Space Program. Son of a bitch.
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(http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/0b03fda489ac03e5f866a6054f67fc3da93a9af0_m.jpg)
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:lol: :lol: f*** the f*** off.
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:lol: Decky cracks me up, man.
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Physics is ridiculous. I'm glad I chose the easy option and went into genetics.
Smart arse. When are you b******s going to come up with a cure for baldness?
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:lol: Decky cracks me up, man.
:lol: Bullshit.
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Mike is nothing but a hater. f*** you Mike.
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http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta/Highlights/Postcards_from_Rosetta
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Western Australia:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuggAkdCEAEMO8i.jpg:large)
:sweetjesus:
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Nice
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Nice
No, it's Australia.
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Stephen Hawking seems to have turned into the man with the sandwich board that says: "The end is nigh."
Not only has he warned us that aliens might destroy us, but he's also been worrying that artificial intelligence might do the same.
Now he's perceiving a threat that might not merely put an end to Earth, but to the whole Universe.
As the UK's Sunday Times reports, Hawking is worried about the God particle. This, discovered by physicists during experiments within CERN's Large Hadron Collider, is a vital ingredient to explaining why things in our world have mass.
However, in a preface to a new book called "Starmus" -- a collection of lectures gives by famous scientists and astronomers -- Hawking worried that the Higgs Boson might become unstable.
He wrote: "The Higgs potential has the worrisome feature that it might become metastable at energies above 100bn gigaelectronvolts (GeV)."
What might this lead to? Hawkins explained: "This could mean that the universe could undergo catastrophic vacuum decay, with a bubble of the true vacuum expanding at the speed of light. This could happen at any time and we wouldn't see it coming."
Before you prepare your loved ones for an evacuation to some distant star, Hawking did offer some hope with, it seems, a wry smile: "A particle accelerator that reaches 100bn GeV would be larger than Earth, and is unlikely to be funded in the present economic climate."
In essence, then, his fears might be theoretically valid, but their likelihood of actually coming to pass is somewhat smaller than that of the New York Jets winning the next Super Bowl.
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there is fck all we could do about it. may as well just carry on killing each other ourselves.
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In essence, then, his fears might be theoretically valid, but their likelihood of actually coming to pass is somewhat smaller than that of the New York Jets winning the next Super Bowl.
:lol: :lol:
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In essence, then, his fears might be theoretically valid, but their likelihood of actually coming to pass is somewhat smaller than that of the New York Jets winning the next Super Bowl.
:lol: :lol:
Not going to lie, I was hoping that you supported them :lol:
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In essence, then, his fears might be theoretically valid, but their likelihood of actually coming to pass is somewhat smaller than that of the New York Jets winning the next Super Bowl.
:lol: :lol:
Not going to lie, I was hoping that you supported them :lol:
You've never said a meaner thing to me.
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Here, man. Don't go sullying the Space thread with American Football nonsense.
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Yeah GTFO with that s*** man Mike, man.
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Yeah, Mike. You f***ing massive rectangular table spoon.
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Here, man. Don't go sullying the Space thread with American Football nonsense.
Wouldn't want to be too American in the motherfucking space thread. Not like we went to the f***ing moon or anything.
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Here, man. Don't go sullying the Space thread with American Football nonsense.
Wouldn't want to be too American in the motherfucking space thread. Not like we went to the f***ing moon or anything.
:lol: The nationality doesn't gave any bearing, Mr Touchy. Just the sport.
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:lol: I was just saying.
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Did you play American football on the Moon motherfucker? Gan back to your thread man ya knacker.
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(http://i.imgur.com/2htjRmy.jpg)
:lol: I'll let the thread return to y'all wondering what kinda cool s*** Japan, Russia and USA will do next up there.
fwiw, I didn't even say s***!
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:lol: Only f***ing with you.
The Moon is too easy, the European Space Agency want a challenge.
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You came in here, waving your flag and chanting your name. I saw the 'death to commy scum' post before you deleted it.
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:lol: I know it's hard, England. It's a motherfucker because every time we send you some fuel to launch a rocket you end up drinking it.
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The Americans still paying Russia for a seat into space?
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:lol: I know it's hard, England. It's a motherfucker because every time we send you some fuel to launch a rocket you end up drinking it.
Your on full douchbage mode tonight. :lol:
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The Americans still paying Russia for a seat into space?
:lol: You still watching from Earth, motherfucker?
:lol: Sitting on the curb, laughing at the man taking a cab. f*** outta here.
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:lol: I know it's hard, England. It's a motherfucker because every time we send you some fuel to launch a rocket you end up drinking it.
Your on full douchbage mode tonight. :lol:
:lol: All I did today was hate the NY Jets. I didn't do s***.
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:lol: f*** I forgot Mike was an astronaut and not just a lowly Earth dweller like the rest of us.
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Watching from Earth too. You ever hear of Rosetta motherfucker?
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:yao: I can't hear you from Space, son. Sound doesn't work like that. But you don't know that cause the last thing y'all built was made of wood.
:lol: All I did was laugh at a line from the f***ing article, you god damn dicks. NUFC54 posted it and escaped unscathed!
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:yao: I can't hear you from Space, son. Sound doesn't work like that. But you don't know that cause the last thing y'all built was made of wood.
:lol: All I did was laugh at a line from the f***ing article, you god damn dicks. NUFC54 posted it and escaped unscathed!
You're in space? Wonder how the Russians are spending your $70m.
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:lol: I just don't like the Jets, is all.
Let's talk about that Japanese mission to mine an asteroid, or something.
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:yao: I can't hear you from Space, son. Sound doesn't work like that. But you don't know that cause the last thing y'all built was made of wood.
:lol: All I did was laugh at a line from the f***ing article, you god damn dicks. NUFC54 posted it and escaped unscathed!
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2013/05/0hgyoKm.gif)
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http://youtu.be/tq6be-CZJ3w
http://youtu.be/Fi30zjQhtWY
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http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2ile4v/iama_nasa_planetary_scientist_ask_me_anything
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http://mars.nasa.gov/participate/send-your-name/orion-first-flight/#name-form
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Construction of Giant Telescope in Hawaii Begins Amid Protests
http://www.space.com/27374-giant-telescope-construction-hawaii-protests.html?cmpid=514630_20141009_33199816
(http://upload.contextoptional.com/20141009083006324814.jpg)
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Pele the Fire Goddess will just have to suck it up for the sake of progress.
And Ku the God of War can go f*** himself anyway.
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(http://i.imgur.com/SdV2iU7.png)
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:lol:
Anyone got a link to the original clip of the "ALIENS" guy?
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Working at a conference center, one of our guests was an astrophysicist at Stanford doing work for the U.S. Department of Energy on dark matter. Really interesting guy, wish I had had more time to chat with him. It's a subject I find endlessly fascinating, but of course it's way beyond my rudimentary understanding of physics.
:boringmilner: carry on.
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Ayyy lmao.
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:lol:
Anyone got a link to the original clip of the "ALIENS" guy?
:lol: Don't look it up, and don't ever watch that show. You will have a rage stroke.
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(http://i.imgur.com/DgePWQa.png)
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We got there. Mankind, we're capable of some s***. See you all on Mars.
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It's crazy.
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It's funny to think that people in the future will laugh at this s***. This is us taking the first 50 mile flight. When people see the trans-atlantic s*** those Apollo guys will be mocked.
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It's funny to think that people in the future will laugh at this s***. This is us taking the first 50 mile flight. When people see the trans-atlantic s*** those Apollo guys will be mocked.
:lol: We don't laugh at the Vikings, Magellan and Zheng He, do we? They went to the moon in a box with less computing power than your phone.
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If it weren't for the moon spiders we'd be living there. Damn the moon is f***ed up as hell
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It's funny to think that people in the future will laugh at this s***. This is us taking the first 50 mile flight. When people see the trans-atlantic s*** those Apollo guys will be mocked.
:lol: We don't laugh at the Vikings, Magellan and Zheng He, do we? They went to the moon in a box with less computing power than your phone.
Its not that much of an achievement to drive to film set of the moon :hmm:
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(http://i.imgur.com/DgePWQa.png)
You can fit the distance between the Earth and the moon inside the sun's diameter almost 4 times as well.
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It's funny to think that people in the future will laugh at this s***. This is us taking the first 50 mile flight. When people see the trans-atlantic s*** those Apollo guys will be mocked.
:lol: We don't laugh at the Vikings, Magellan and Zheng He, do we? They went to the moon in a box with less computing power than your phone.
Gotta laugh at Columbus, though. Man was an idiot and extremely lucky not to get everyone killed.
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It's funny to think that people in the future will laugh at this s***. This is us taking the first 50 mile flight. When people see the trans-atlantic s*** those Apollo guys will be mocked.
:lol: We don't laugh at the Vikings, Magellan and Zheng He, do we? They went to the moon in a box with less computing power than your phone.
We don't, but do you think people living on different planets in different solar systems will give a s*** about the vikings? :lol: The guys on the Moon will still be regarded as heros because they were the first, so I'm wrong there, but everything being achieved right now (with the exception of Mars) won't be remembered.
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It's funny to think that people in the future will laugh at this s***. This is us taking the first 50 mile flight. When people see the trans-atlantic s*** those Apollo guys will be mocked.
:lol: We don't laugh at the Vikings, Magellan and Zheng He, do we? They went to the moon in a box with less computing power than your phone.
We don't, but do you think people living on different planets in different solar systems will give a s*** about the vikings? :lol: The guys on the Moon will still be regarded as heros because they were the first, so I'm wrong there, but everything being achieved right now (with the exception of Mars) won't be remembered.
:lol: Game recognizes game. People that went to the moon recognize the bravery and courage it took to trust some lights in the sky and head out where no land could be seen. People that go to Mars and beyond will recognize it too. Bad motherfuckers are bad motherfuckers regardless of when they lived.
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I think in the future people will mock our lack of ambition. They'll see the Moon landings and see Mars over 60 years later and wonder what happened. God knows when the next milestone will be after Mars. I'm sure there'll be another big war to fund and stop progress.
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I think in the future people will mock our lack of ambition. They'll see the Moon landings and see Mars over 60 years later and wonder what happened. God knows when the next milestone will be after Mars. I'm sure there'll be another big war to fund and stop progress.
They'll know what happened. We stopped giving a s***. It'll be one of the many marks on us as a century and a generation.
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Wasn't the moon landing basically a result of the pissing contest between the US and the USSR?
We'll probably have to wait for China to really get its s*** together before America feel compelled to whip it out and measure dicks again.
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Wasn't the moon landing basically a result of the pissing contest between the US and the USSR?
We'll probably have to wait for China to really get its s*** together before America feel compelled to whip it out and measure dicks again.
Yeah USSR was ahead of the USA for a while...then the USA went all out for the moon.
I hnestly think we'd get there together as a planet rather than rival nations. Space exploration is way to expensive for one nation.
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Wasn't the moon landing basically a result of the pissing contest between the US and the USSR?
We'll probably have to wait for China to really get its s*** together before America feel compelled to whip it out and measure dicks again.
:lol: USA doesn't like doing things together when there's credit to be taken. This whole kumbaya s*** will never work as long as we're around.
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The US beat Russia to the Moon, but Russia are the fathers of space travel. If it wasn't for Russia we wouldn't have the ISS - The US took ages and spent billions designing stations that were never even put in to development. Mir may look s*** now, but at the time it was a marvel. Maybe not have even had Shuttle without Russia - When the Soviets began to crumble that's when they conceded to the US.
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The US beat Russia to the Moon, but Russia are the fathers of space travel. If it wasn't for Russia we wouldn't have the ISS - The US took ages and spent billions designing stations that were never even put in to development. Mir may look s*** now, but at the time it was a marvel. Maybe not have even had Shuttle without Russia - When the Soviets began to crumble that's when they conceded to the US.
tl;dr version:
(http://i.imgur.com/SrfVH06.jpg)
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Thing is, if the Asians get together they'll takeover from the Americans. India and China have so much potential, if they combined their efforts and pulled in some of those oil rich nations for finance they could be capable of anything. The Russians would probably chip in too.
With the exception of the Space Launch System and Orion, the US is relying heavily on the likes of Boeing, Sierra Nevada and Space X to even just get into space. Buying seats from the Russians was a ridiculous step back for them. I still can't even believe they did that s*** for so long. :lol:
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:lol: Yeah but as soon as someone looks like they're about to do something cool, we'll get agitated and start up again. Space belongs to the USA.
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Space belongs to the USA.
f*** off.
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:lol: Yeah but as soon as someone looks like they're about to do something cool, we'll get agitated and start up again. Space belongs to the USA.
Can the US even compete with the combined Asian nations? If you show congress how much this s*** costs they'll just decide to buy another couple of aircraft carriers.
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:lol: Yeah but as soon as someone looks like they're about to do something cool, we'll get agitated and start up again. Space belongs to the USA.
Can the US even compete with the combined Asian nations? If you show congress how much this s*** costs they'll just decide to buy another couple of aircraft carriers.
:lol: Give these elected frauds some s*** they can say happened on their watch and they'll be for it immediately. If some people who had the temerity to not be born white are trying to do something incredible, we'll swoop in there and do our absolute best to beat them to it.
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You's paid the Russians, your biggest rivals, over 100 million dollars per seat into space man. I don't think you's give a s*** about pride in space no more. :lol:
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You's paid the Russians, your biggest rivals, over 100 million dollars per seat into space man. I don't think you's give a s*** about pride in space no more. :lol:
:lol: There's a difference between hitching a ride into LEO and going to god damn Mars.
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You's paid the Russians, your biggest rivals, over 100 million dollars per seat into space man. I don't think you's give a s*** about pride in space no more. :lol:
:lol: There's a difference between hitching a ride into LEO and going to god damn Mars.
The US is testing the SLS and Orion over the next few years man, you's are going to Mars. It's just a question if Space X can do it first for South Africa, and even that s***s unlikely. Some of the s*** NASA has planned for our lifetime is class, but I can't help but feel in 100 years they'll be behind Asia, not that you give a f***. :lol:
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Space belongs to the USA.
f*** off.
Microwaving beans in space.
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:lol: I still believe in us. We're fueled by insults. Someone else goes to our moon and we'll finally get p*ssed.
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According to Gary McKinnon the USA and its allies already have off world officers. : :hmm:
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:lol: I still believe in us. We're fueled by insults. Someone else goes to our moon and we'll finally get p*ssed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proposed_missions_to_the_Moon#Manned_missions
:lol:
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:lol: I still believe in us. We're fueled by insults. Someone else goes to our moon and we'll finally get p*ssed.
:lol: American ingenuity courtesy of jealousy and spite.
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:lol: I still believe in us. We're fueled by insults. Someone else goes to our moon and we'll finally get p*ssed.
:lol: American ingenuity courtesy of jealousy and spite.
:lol: The country was founded out of jealousy and spite, why would we ever change?
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I bet mankind never goes further than Mars.
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I bet mankind never goes further than Mars.
Easy...
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I bet mankind never goes further than Mars.
If we can create planes that can leave the atmosphere, I reckon anything's possible.
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I bet mankind never goes further than Mars.
If we can get to Mars, we can get to Titan.
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It takes little effort (relatively speaking) to get to places locally when you're in Earth orbit. I think it takes less fuel to get to Mars than the Moon for example because of aerobraking etc. There's no way we won't leave the solar system though because eventually we will colonise it as best we can and interstellar travel will be the next step forward. Eventually we'll find a new source for propulsion as well (several methods are currently being researched).
The way I see it is, we'll either create crafts capable of interstellar travel by sheer speed from Earth, or we'll get there with stepping stones, bases orbiting other planets etc, but it will happen. Even building massive ships capable of sustaining life for generations is a possibility in the far future. The way technology is developing now God knows what we'll be doing in 100s or 1000s of years time.
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It takes little effort (relatively speaking) to get to places locally when you're in Earth orbit. I think it takes less fuel to get to Mars than the Moon for example because of aerobraking etc. There's no way we won't leave the solar system though because eventually we will colonise it as best we can and interstellar travel will be the next step forward. Eventually we'll find a new source for propulsion as well (several methods are currently being researched).
The way I see it is, we'll either create crafts capable of interstellar travel by sheer speed from Earth, or we'll get there with stepping stones, bases orbiting other planets etc, but it will happen. Even building massive ships capable of sustaining life for generations is a possibility in the far future. The way technology is developing now God knows what we'll be doing in 100s or 1000s of years time.
Most likely base hopping i think, with local ships/craft covering areas of the solar system.
Earth orbit to the moon, moon to mars and so on.
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We already have the technology to make it to Mars direct without needing a refuelling/resupplying mission to the Moon. That's where we are now, imagine where we'll be in a thousand years. The biggest obstacle with this s*** is how people survive during the travelling and how they leave their family on Earth possibly forever depending on how far away they travel. Suspended animation is a thing is science fiction now but I've no doubt we'll crack that eventually, and once that happens anything is possible. The only thing stopping humanity doing incredible things is war. We could quite easily wipe ourselves out or set ourselves back a few centuries at any time.
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We already have the technology to make it to Mars direct without needing a refuelling/resupplying mission to the Moon. That's where we are now, imagine where we'll be in a thousand years. The biggest obstacle with this s*** is how people survive during the travelling and how they leave their family on Earth possibly forever depending on how far away they travel. Suspended animation is a thing is science fiction now but I've no doubt we'll crack that eventually, and once that happens anything is possible. The only thing stopping humanity doing incredible things is war. We could quite easily wipe ourselves out or set ourselves back a few centuries at any time.
Or gentically modify humans for space travel.
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It's been discussed in the book thread, but anyone interested in this sort of s*** need to read The Martian by Andy Weir. Tells a plausible story about what our missions to Mars could be like.
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You's paid the Russians, your biggest rivals, over 100 million dollars per seat into space man. I don't think you's give a s*** about pride in space no more. :lol:
Ugh.
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The US beat Russia to the Moon, but Russia are the fathers of space travel. If it wasn't for Russia we wouldn't have the ISS - The US took ages and spent billions designing stations that were never even put in to development. Mir may look s*** now, but at the time it was a marvel. Maybe not have even had Shuttle without Russia - When the Soviets began to crumble that's when they conceded to the US.
tl;dr version:
(http://i.imgur.com/SrfVH06.jpg)
:lol:
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Thing is, if the Asians get together they'll takeover from the Americans. India and China have so much potential, if they combined their efforts and pulled in some of those oil rich nations for finance they could be capable of anything. The Russians would probably chip in too.
With the exception of the Space Launch System and Orion, the US is relying heavily on the likes of Boeing, Sierra Nevada and Space X to even just get into space. Buying seats from the Russians was a ridiculous step back for them. I still can't even believe they did that s*** for so long. :lol:
(http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-9/0913/south-park-s09e13c10-mexican-space-program-16x9.jpg)
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Decky has played far too much Kerbal.
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You's paid the Russians, your biggest rivals, over 100 million dollars per seat into space man. I don't think you's give a s*** about pride in space no more. :lol:
Ugh.
:lol: Relax. The government.
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You's paid the Russians, your biggest rivals, over 100 million dollars per seat into space man. I don't think you's give a s*** about pride in space no more. :lol:
Ugh.
:lol: Relax. The government.
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:lol: I still believe in us. We're fueled by insults. Someone else goes to our moon and we'll finally get p*ssed.
So to kickstart the next wave of space exploration, I need to build me a rocket to take me to the moon, take a fat s*** on the lunar surface and wipe my arse with that silly flag?
Possibly also scrawl "Jesus loves gay sex and abortion" in 10km-high letters on the moon to bring the Republicans on board.
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:lol: That would be sufficient, yes.
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The US beat Russia to the Moon, but Russia are the fathers of space travel. If it wasn't for Russia we wouldn't have the ISS - The US took ages and spent billions designing stations that were never even put in to development. Mir may look s*** now, but at the time it was a marvel. Maybe not have even had Shuttle without Russia - When the Soviets began to crumble that's when they conceded to the US.
tl;dr version:
(http://i.imgur.com/SrfVH06.jpg)
:lol:
:lol:
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Space belongs to the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR1El8nB0gk
:pokerface:
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Space belongs to the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR1El8nB0gk
:pokerface:
I shouldn't laugh :lol: :lol:
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That's what they get for contracting.
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If jinxing is real that s*** is completely on Mike.
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Tell you what America, if you can get Honey Boo Boo in space, I'll give you alittle bit of respect.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvU9GZjBTzs
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NASA’s Orion Spacecraft received finishing touches today, marking the conclusion of construction on the first spacecraft designed to send humans into deep space beyond the moon, including a journey to Mars that begins with its first test flight Dec. 4.
Details: http://go.nasa.gov/1055jCk
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/1655742_10152776292026772_3148902374500634949_o.jpg)
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FYI this is also the craft being used for the 2020's lunar and asteroid missions.
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Decky has played far too much Kerbal.
This is my thing man. :lol: Dunno if I've rambled on about this s*** to you for ages before, maybe we'll do that in the pub after Interstellar next week.
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NASA’s Orion Spacecraft received finishing touches today, marking the conclusion of construction on the first spacecraft designed to send humans into deep space beyond the moon, including a journey to Mars that begins with its first test flight Dec. 4.
Details: http://go.nasa.gov/1055jCk
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/1655742_10152776292026772_3148902374500634949_o.jpg)
f*** yeah, NASA.
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I thought Nasa had it's funding cut? or did I dream that?
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NASA’s Orion Spacecraft received finishing touches today, marking the conclusion of construction on the first spacecraft designed to send humans into deep space beyond the moon, including a journey to Mars that begins with its first test flight Dec. 4.
Details: http://go.nasa.gov/1055jCk
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/1655742_10152776292026772_3148902374500634949_o.jpg)
f*** yeah, NASA.
Get in.
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NASA is easily the most badass government agency in the world. We should be taking 2% of the budget away from the defense and giving it straight to NASA* to fund cool s***.
*And also to fund healthcare and education.
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I'm surprised at how little NASA actually gets given that they invent loads of valuable technology for Earth as well. People think it's just about space.
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Looks like a bottle of milk.
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Looks like a bottle of milk.
That's because of the fairings. It actually looks like this in space:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1OBrdKIAAEX8HK.jpg:large)
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Does it, Gimp? Really?
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How do I become an astronaut? I genuinely have some cool ideas for experiments I could do in space!
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Does it, Gimp? Really?
In the picture obn the other page is does.
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http://gizmodo.com/virgin-galactic-experiences-first-major-accident-possi-1653360863
Virgin Galactic is reporting that there has been an "in-flight anomaly" aboard SpaceShip Two. There are unconfirmed reports that one of the two pilots is dead. The suborbital flight took off at 9:19am PDT from the Mojave Air and Spaceport in California. [Update: Virgin Galactic has confirmed that SpaceshipTwo has crashed but the status of the two pilots is still unknown.]
The reported anomaly came after SpaceShipTwo fired up its rocket engine in flight for the first time in more than nine months. Since then, Virgin Galactic has switched the plane's fuel mixture from a rubber-based compound to a plastic-based mix — in hopes that the new formulation would boost the hybrid rocket engine's performance.
(http://i.imgur.com/D1NUtEq.jpg)
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One dead one seriously injured apparently.
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Sheeeeit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C1RqX47eek
presenter guy is annoying as s*** trying to interrupt her, idiot
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/ambitious-85m-plan-build-worlds-8028742
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:sweetjesus:
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Are you reading The Martian, Brank?
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Nah. I'm not really a big fiction, man. Not unless the author's Russian and long since dead.
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Nah. I'm not really a big fiction, man. Not unless the author's Russian and long since dead.
:lol: Nah f*** that. Get a sample off Amazon or something.
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:lol: I'll try, but I rarely succeed.
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If you like space you'll love it. For something set a couple of decades in the future it's incredibly realistic and plausible.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZEdApyi9Vw
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/06/forget-interstellar-americas-doing-less-to-travel-to-space-than-ever-before/?tid=rssfeed
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45 years ago was the apex of our space program. What a travesty.
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Genuine question here - anyone ever hear of a planet emitting an electromagnetic pulse. I think stars are doing it all the time, but planets?
Apparently Mars emitted a massive pulse/explosion on Oct 19th as Comet Siding Spring (C/2013 A1) made a very close fly-by in its closest approach to the Sun. It was filmed by Dr. Fritz Helmut Hemmerich in the Canary Islands.
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45 years ago was the apex of our space program. What a travesty.
At least I have an iPhone!
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You can follow the comet landing here:
http://rosetta.esa.int/
(http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/European-Union_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif) :D
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The human race is about to land a spaceship on a flying comet, but some people would rather go wild over another picture of Kim Kardashian's giant comedy ass.
We deserve nothing.
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EU EU EU EU EU
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It's double the distance from the Sun as Mars. It's the second farthest landing on a solar body ever made. The first was when the ESA landed a probe on Titan.
The Moon belongs to the USA, space belongs to Europe.
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The human race is about to land a spaceship on a flying comet, but some people would rather go wild over another picture of Kim Kardashian's giant comedy ass.
We deserve nothing.
The dumbing down of the human race!
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The human race is about to land a spaceship on a flying comet, but some people would rather go wild over another picture of Kim Kardashian's giant comedy ass.
We deserve nothing.
Aye :thup:
Am tuning in to the landing - fingers crossed :)
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The first was when the ESA landed a probe on Titan.
That reminds me of this class video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXwtDTk810s
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This stuff always blows my mind. A 2.5 mile wide rock, half a billion KM away, moving at 11km/s, and we've sent a god damn machine to land on it. Ridiculous.
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This stuff always blows my mind. A 2.5 mile wide rock, half a billion KM away, moving at 11km/s, and we've sent a god damn machine to land on it. Ridiculous.
:lol: When you think of it that way.
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Looks like it's down!
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:coolsmiley: It's a fantastic achievement :)
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This stuff always blows my mind. A 2.5 mile wide rock, half a billion KM away, moving at 11km/s, and we've sent a god damn machine to land on it. Ridiculous.
Little steps.
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I take it there'll be no photos of this....for a while?
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It's double the distance from the Sun as Mars. It's the second farthest landing on a solar body ever made. The first was when the ESA landed a probe on Titan.
The Moon belongs to the USA, space belongs to Europe.
:yao: just until y'all start to really push far, then we'll take it from you.
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It's double the distance from the Sun as Mars. It's the second farthest landing on a solar body ever made. The first was when the ESA landed a probe on Titan.
The Moon belongs to the USA, space belongs to Europe.
:yao: just until y'all start to really push far, then we'll take it from you.
we'll see.
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Amazing achievement.
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Amazing achievement.
Very much so.
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It's double the distance from the Sun as Mars. It's the second farthest landing on a solar body ever made. The first was when the ESA landed a probe on Titan.
The Moon belongs to the USA, space belongs to Europe.
:yao: just until y'all start to really push far, then we'll take it from you.
(http://i.imgur.com/7vT5YWL.png)
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Still, dat ass! :coolsmiley:
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The guy in the office next to mine is being interviewed about this by all the UK newspapers, Reuters, CNN, etc. It's kind of surreal, he's just a physics lecturer!
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:coolsmiley: It's a fantastic achievement :)
It really is. Things like this re-boost my confidence in the inherent inquisitiveness of humanity, and go some way to offsetting the tidal wave of science denial.
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Amazing achievement.
Very much so.
:thup:
This is what we should be investing in.
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I really hope we discover some form of life out there in my life time. That'll hopefully signal an age were we invest more in space exploration and more people turn their backs on religion in favour of science. When they find out life on Earth isn't so unique in the Universe after all.
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I really hope we discover some form of life out there in my life time. That'll hopefully signal an age were we invest more in space exploration and more people turn their backs on religion in favour of science. When they find out life on Earth isn't so unique in the Universe after all.
only way forward is space exploration. I would gladly put a large chunk of my taxes into that.
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:coolsmiley: It's a fantastic achievement :)
It really is. Things like this re-boost my confidence in the inherent inquisitiveness of humanity, and go some way to offsetting the tidal wave of science denial.
Parklife!
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Apparently they aren't sure that the probe is still there - the harpoons that were supposed to anchor it to the comet, didn't fire. Fingers crossed it's down and safe.
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It's stable.
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It's stable.
:coolsmiley:
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Nice!
Fantastic to think we could leave this machine on that lump of rock floating round the galaxy and it could potentially still be there after our civilisation has long gone...and maybe be found by other explorers.
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(http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2014/11/first_comet_panoramic/15051328-1-eng-GB/First_comet_panoramic_fullwidth.jpg?1415895955414)
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The size of the comet in relation to London.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/6e1ztf.jpg)
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Planning an interception on something that small so far away and landing a small robot on it man. Mind blowing.
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Everything about our Universe blows my mind. I simply can't begin to understand how old or big it is or that there may an infinite number of other universes out there and others waiting for their own Big Bang moment.
It's almost inevitable that there has been/ is intelligent life out there somewhere and the chances are that we'll not last long enough as humans to discover it.
We need to find a way to colonise other worlds and somehow develop our knowledge of physics to make space travel what it needs to be to actually get anywhere in this Universe.
I think I read that the Earth has around 60 million years left as a habitable planet and that after that we'd have to move to Mars. As the Sun eventually heats up and dies we'll run out of local planets. Mind boggling and we're here for the first steps on what will be an epic journey.
I'd love to come back in say 10 million year gaps to see where we are and in which of those periods Nufc won their next trophy.
Space; utterly mind blowing.
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Our galaxy is on a collision course with Andromeda too, although there's no guarantee it'll be disastrous. Our species needs to make strides to be intergalactic. I know it's impossible with today's science, but we need to make the baby steps to becoming interplanetary first. If we can even establish ourselves as interplanetary then we've probably bought ourselves a few hundred thousand years of existence. Go interstellar and we've probably bought millions of years, so anything is possible with regards to technology if we just get a move on.
It's ridiculous how a man made invention (money) is the biggest factor holding us back too. I wonder if there is intelligent life else ware if they have put restrictions on themselves like we have.
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:lol: Newcastle United won't be around in ten million years. Humans won't even be around, and not necessarily because we've f***ed everything up and gone extinct. Only 4 million years in the other direction and we looked like this.
(http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/evolution/ardi_human_origins.jpg)
Who's to say what we'd look like with ten million more years of evolution.
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If we've branched out we'll look different all over the place.
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I think it was Iain Banks who worked that into his books - humans had branched out over the galaxy, so they looked different from planet to planet - some had fur for example.
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Some already do.
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Been considering a NASA tattoo for a while. Without the NASA on, just the image. Probably look s***.
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If we have top notch healthcare and life support and all that guff would there be evolution on that scale?
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Has Troll just announced the end of Nufc? End the world now.
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Olaf Stapledon's Last and First Men (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Last-And-First-S-F-MASTERWORKS/dp/185798806X) is a fantastic novel that speculates about how humanity will evolve over millions of years into the future.
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One of the chief scientists has made a tearful apology after getting s*** on Twitter for wearing a "sexist" shirt with some cartoon women on it.
No wonder we're working so hard to explore new worlds because Earth has gone f***ing mental.
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That bullshit has no doubt made what should be one of the greatest moments in his life into a very bittersweet moment. f*** these self righteous b******s man. Sick of reading s**** like this.
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It's s*** like this that acts as a major roadblock to progress. It's not Spinal Tap's first Smell the Glove album cover. Did these people protest out in the streets when Aeon Flux was on MTV?
When I make a groundbreaking discovery, I am going to make sure that I have my favorite Porn Star cock Hall of Fame shirt on. Then at least they'll get their money's worth of self-righteousness, and entirely miss the achievement.
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I agree with what you all are saying. But that f***ing shirt :lol: :lol: f*** was he thinking?
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Wear a f***ing suit, man.
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f*** that. Peter North and John Holmes will be rightly well-represented when I make the announcement.
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:lol: People are really mad about that shirt?
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Are you not :lol: ? It's a travesty
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Are you not :lol: ? It's a travesty
:lol: It's a god damn ugly shirt, but people are treating him like he's personally keeping women out of his field. His female friend made the shirt as a gift.
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One of the chief scientists has made a tearful apology after getting s*** on Twitter for wearing a "sexist" shirt with some cartoon women on it.
No wonder we're working so hard to explore new worlds because Earth has gone f***ing mental.
Maybe we can find some of those 4 titted green bitches that don't moan.
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Been considering a NASA tattoo for a while.
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Always wanted to know what it was like inside Uranus...
http://www.iflscience.com/space/old-voyager-2-images-reveal-new-insight-inner-structure-uranus (http://www.iflscience.com/space/old-voyager-2-images-reveal-new-insight-inner-structure-uranus)
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Even talking about it is detracting from a remarkable achievement. It's the human race looking a gift horse in the mouth.
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Well that lasted long.
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It deed?
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What a shame. Surely, forgive my ignorance, the comet will turn to the sun eventually exposing the panels? Would it not like kickstart somewhere, then, randomly?
Love how awful that question could be. :lol:
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It's only sleeping. It did 9 out of the 10 planned experiments anyway. It's in a dark part of the comet were the Sun rarely hits, so it can't recharge it's batteries. It's not dead though, if it gets a charge they can turn it back on.
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It's gone in to stand by. No power left and can't charge. It's not dead, though. It may be able to receive more sunlight as the comet circles the sun, depending upon the comet's 'seasons'. There's still hope for more activity in the future. It has drilled and sampled and sent data back.
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It'll be in the sun in august 2015 they predicted so fingers crossed.
I assume there's a valid reason for using solar cells over plutonium rtg, aside from an irrational fear of nuclear energy.
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May be stupid but why couldn't they build any kind of self righting mechanism in it? Would a gyroscope work up there and if so you'd have thought they could've also built in some kind "jet" to nudge it without knocking it off the comet altogether (or anchor the legs independent of each other to stop this).
I find it strange that we can get something to land on a bloodly comet but then built in a safety measure to self right/ enable MC to put it right.
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May be stupid but why couldn't they build any kind of self righting mechanism in it? Would a gyroscope work up there and if so you'd have thought they could've also built in some kind "jet" to nudge it without knocking it off the comet altogether (or anchor the legs independent of each other to stop this).
I find it strange that we can get something to land on a bloodly comet but then built in a safety measure to self right/ enable MC to put it right.
It was equipped with harpoons that were meant to fire into the comet thus anchoring it. They didn't fire as nitrocellulose doesn't ignite in a vacuum. They discovered this last year but claimed to have found a solution, either they didn't or it didn't work.
They have thrusters to move it but one involved in descent failed so instead of it slamming into the comet which was the plan it just sort of floated down which meant it bounced off and then landed some time later and rolled away into oblivion. The remaining thrusters cant fire to flip it because the lithium ion batteries have died - I think this is case.
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I don't think they can remove the anchor from it. It must have some kind of RCS on it though surely?
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The scale of what they've done is absolutely fantastic. It's a shame that a few things have failed, but overall the achievement is remarkable. As a race we should be immensely proud, which is a bit of a rare thing.
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May be stupid but why couldn't they build any kind of self righting mechanism in it? Would a gyroscope work up there and if so you'd have thought they could've also built in some kind "jet" to nudge it without knocking it off the comet altogether (or anchor the legs independent of each other to stop this).
I find it strange that we can get something to land on a bloodly comet but then built in a safety measure to self right/ enable MC to put it right.
Overall mass, shape, fuel consumption and expense will have been major factors in its design. You could add all sorts of safety mechanisms, but would end up with trying to land a star cruiser on the comet.
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I don't think they can remove the anchor from it. It must have some kind of RCS on it though surely?
Am I right that 2 of the legs are down and presumably pivoted to sit flat? If that's the case could they have built something in the pads to extend out and push up to right itself? A gyroscope and some electronics would do the trick?
It's a fantastic achievement; I just wonder why something like an iffy landing didn't have a way of putting itself right.
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The scale of what they've done is absolutely fantastic. It's a shame that a few things have failed, but overall the achievement is remarkable. As a race we should be immensely proud, which is a bit of a rare thing.
This x1000000
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May be stupid but why couldn't they build any kind of self righting mechanism in it? Would a gyroscope work up there and if so you'd have thought they could've also built in some kind "jet" to nudge it without knocking it off the comet altogether (or anchor the legs independent of each other to stop this).
I find it strange that we can get something to land on a bloodly comet but then built in a safety measure to self right/ enable MC to put it right.
It was equipped with harpoons that were meant to fire into the comet thus anchoring it. They didn't fire as nitrocellulose doesn't ignite in a vacuum. They discovered this last year but claimed to have found a solution, either they didn't or it didn't work.
They have thrusters to move it but one involved in descent failed so instead of it slamming into the comet which was the plan it just sort of floated down which meant it bounced off and then landed some time later and rolled away into oblivion. The remaining thrusters cant fire to flip it because the lithium ion batteries have died - I think this is case.
Talk about nit picking man ffs. This has never been done before, whenever anything is done for the first time mistakes/errors happen a lot as you are into a unknown process.
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May be stupid but why couldn't they build any kind of self righting mechanism in it? Would a gyroscope work up there and if so you'd have thought they could've also built in some kind "jet" to nudge it without knocking it off the comet altogether (or anchor the legs independent of each other to stop this).
I find it strange that we can get something to land on a bloodly comet but then built in a safety measure to self right/ enable MC to put it right.
It was equipped with harpoons that were meant to fire into the comet thus anchoring it. They didn't fire as nitrocellulose doesn't ignite in a vacuum. They discovered this last year but claimed to have found a solution, either they didn't or it didn't work.
They have thrusters to move it but one involved in descent failed so instead of it slamming into the comet which was the plan it just sort of floated down which meant it bounced off and then landed some time later and rolled away into oblivion. The remaining thrusters cant fire to flip it because the lithium ion batteries have died - I think this is case.
Talk about nit picking man ffs. This has never been done before, whenever anything is done for the first time mistakes/errors happen a lot as you are into a unknown process.
:lol: Would you rather we just say it went swimmingly?
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They did an awesome job, tbh.
Okay, the probe bounced a good kilometre, but bear in mind the comet's gravity is so low, even a big, fat lad stood on the surface could jump right out into space and keep going.
Total shame about that shirt. The reaction was out of all proportions, but what was the fella thinking turning up to work in that shirt on that day?
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Was sure that I read that they could try and move it but decided it wasn't worth the risk of losing it all together.
Is it weird that I don't mind the shirt?
Not that I would wear it to work to bloody NASA of all places.
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They did an awesome job, tbh.
Okay, the probe bounced a good kilometre, but bear in mind the comet's gravity is so low, even a big, fat lad stood on the surface could jump right out into space and keep going.
Total shame about that shirt. The reaction was out of all proportions, but what was the fella thinking turning up to work in that shirt on that day?
That's what the top thruster was for. Keep it firing while the screws and harpoons anchored it, the screws wouldn't screw if the thruster wasn't firing due to the low gravity so the harpoons were a sort of failsafe. It bouncing wasn't the failure as they even accounted for that with the anchors, the failure was not testing if nitrocellulose would fire in a vacuum until after the thing had left Earth. That's actually the smaller failure as it was packed so tightly similar substances worked (could be wrong I tend to skim over chemistry, although I can't think of any other reason) so I think they were almost justified in assuming it would, almost. The biggest failure was not using an RTG due to the Europe's irrational fear of nuclear energy.
They can peddle it off as not being cost effective but it would have hands down made the mission a total success. For reference such a power source would be in the millions, more if we insisted on producing it ourselves, but still not astronomical, hor hor, in comparison to the total cost. It's not the scientists fault ultimately it's whoever is pinching the pennies/is scared of plutonium.
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There could also be the moral argument of not chancing the leaking of radioactive material on to another world? Chances of life on an asteroid I imagine are extremely slim to absolute none, but should we be sending potential hazardous material with the knowledge it'll land and remain on a body other than our own? Yes there are probably a multitude of satellites etc currently in space powered by RTGs, orbiting the earth, but they're safely in orbit.
My knowledge is extremely thin. But I do know RTGs aren't guaranteed not to leak.
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There could also be the moral argument of not chancing the leaking of radioactive material on to another world? Chances of life on an asteroid I imagine are extremely slim to absolute none, but should we be sending potential hazardous material with the knowledge it'll land and remain on a body other than our own? Yes there are probably a multitude of satellites etc currently in space powered by RTGs, orbiting the earth, but they're safely in orbit.
My knowledge is extremely thin. But I do know RTGs aren't guaranteed not to leak.
There are dozens of them left in the Arctic circle by the Soviet Union powering lighthouses, but that's another story
I suppose it might kill any life but I think, without any numbers, there is more radiation buzzing around our solar system than a small thermal generator would give off, might be wrong.
Biggest risk is it blowing up in the atmosphere and spreading the stuff around. Would still pose a risk despite it not being a huge amount. Didn't stop NASA putting one in the Curiosity Rover, I realise but but he did it isn't really a justification of using one :lol:
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http://youtu.be/CbIZU8cQWXc
f*** yeah, NDT.
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Was sure that I read that they could try and move it but decided it wasn't worth the risk of losing it all together.
Is it weird that I don't mind the shirt?
Not that I would wear it to work to bloody NASA of all places.
He didn't wear it to NASA!
Same thing happened on Twitter too - whenever anything happens in space, NASA get all the credit for it even if they didn't have anything to do with it. :lol:
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Went to the science museum yesterday, enjoyed the stuff they have on space.
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What was the highlight?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30102343
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http://www.nasa.gov/content/open-for-business-3-d-printer-creates-first-object-in-space-on-international-space-station/#.VHT1d4vF-So
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Would love to read how they got round the lack of gravity issue. Wont get half as much publicity as the comet landing but this is bigger in my eyes. A lot more progress will come from this iyam.
also, "Ultimately, one day, a printer may even be able to print another printer.” the singularity approaches... :whistle:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/incredible-gopro-video-shows-lamb-chop-falling-to-earth-9880903.html
Not the most Space-y thing ever, but yeah.
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http://earthsky.org/space/hangout-with-astrophysicists-to-discuss-film-interstellar-watch-here?utm_content=buffer95ffe&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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the retouched photos of Europa look pretty neat.
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/europa/home.cfm
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Dunno where to start with this, decided to just share it for the laughter:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nasa-worker-claims-there-was-a-secret-manned-mission-to-mars-in-1979-123031256.html#VMLskea
:lol:
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(http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/journey_to_mars.jpeg)
NASA's planning on manned missions to Mars in the 30s.
http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars/
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Although their plan just looks like shooting it with a massive spiral made up of SCIENCE, EXPLORATION and TECHNOLOGY
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Exploration Flight Test 1 is tomorrow too. Around 12:05 our time and 7:05 EST I believe.
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Seems slightly more likely to happen than Mars One. Would be great if they were second though
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What ever happened to that Mars One? I remember it was big news when it was announced, but I haven't heard anything in a while.
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They're getting their heads down I think. Probably finding out they underestimated how it much it would cost.
They're still in the stages of selecting crew members. A girl from my uni got through the first round or two last year. Got to be mental for that if you ask me :lol:
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It's a load of bullshit. Why are you selecting crew members before you even have the technology or funding to do it? All a big publicity stunt, and won't happen.
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Because living on mars is a pretty huge thing, both mentally and physically?
And they have funding, or at least they believe they do.
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They plan to get funding through a Big Brother-style TV show. They estimate it'll cost $6 billion (that's a fraction of the cost of the work being done on the Metro line upgrades :lol:) NASA estimates $100 billion, albeit for a return trip, but they don't need to worry about permanent structures. And most importantly, they don't have any of the technology they need to do it!
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The tv show is for continued support, it's a weird strategy.
I don't thin they'll manage it , they've probably severely underestimated the cost but to dismiss them out of hand is rather silly. At least they're trying.
I wouldn't give the nasa figure too much credence other than a top estimate, it's in their best interests to slightly overestimate
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Hell, even if only one new piece of tech comes from this it's a good thing
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Wasn't there an article recently somewhere that suggested the entire thing was shaddy as f***?
NASA will be the first to do it, but I think the real progression of humanity on Mars will lie with ambitious companies like Space X.
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Mars One aren't an aerospace company they're organising it, companies such as Space X are doing the R&D and manufacturing, it's all being contracted out.
The business strategy is weird, but any company willing to put money into this field is welcomed by me.
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NASA's planning on manned missions to Mars in the 30s.
http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars/
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Turns out the famous Nigerian Space Program rocket failure was a Chinese rocket fired from China.
"Robert Ajayi Boroffice announced at a public lecture on space technology development that Nigeria will be able to build indigenous satellites in the country without foreign assistance by 2018."
I look forward to that day.
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:lol:
You have to admire their persistence like.
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Orions launch was moved until tomorrow btw.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOHvCWCv5pk
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USAUSAUSAUSAUSA
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
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Being this f***ing free. Not even American yet I feel an overwhelming sense of patriotism. Tears of liberty trickle down my face and drip onto my raging freedom boner. An eagle screeches in the distance. We mars now :frantic:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4sJhjrfWUA
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NASA's planning on manned missions to Mars in the 30s.
http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars/
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
Irony being they'd quite happily shoot the c***.
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we'd never fire at Gods greatest bird. take it back, commie
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
Irony being they'd quite happily shoot the c*** each other.
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
Irony being they'd quite happily shoot the c***.
:lol: You'd totally go to jail for shooting an eagle. You're nuts.
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
Irony being they'd quite happily shoot the c***.
:lol: You'd totally go to jail for shooting an eagle. You're nuts.
:lol: You're totally meant to go to jail for shooting people. But is that a given?
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
Irony being they'd quite happily shoot the c***.
:lol: You'd totally go to jail for shooting an eagle. You're nuts.
:lol: You're totally meant to go to jail for shooting people. But is that a given?
:lol: Listen, as soon as we work out the whole thing we've been going through for the last couple of centuries, you ain't gonna have s*** to say!
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If you shot a bald eagle and got caught you're so f***ed.
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So, can cops shoot eagles?
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No, just Eagles fans.
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Eagles > black people.
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I do enjoy these patriotic American pictures.
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
Irony being they'd quite happily shoot the c*** each other.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOHvCWCv5pk
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That eagle ffs. :lol:
Irony being they'd quite happily shoot the c*** each other.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOHvCWCv5pk
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:lol: Feel like that caused Deuce actual pain to post that gif and mean it. Respect.
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I found the music video equivalent of that picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4difPEQ8wA4
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I found the music video equivalent of that picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4difPEQ8wA4
FFS. This video was apparently done in 2002. Yet that f***er looks like he just woke out of being frozen in carbonite, after getting booted out of Foreigner back in '81.
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The Dawn spacecraft has delivered a glimpse of Ceres, the largest body in the main asteroid belt, in a new image taken 740,000 miles (1.2 million kilometers) from the dwarf planet. This is Dawn's best image yet of Ceres as the spacecraft makes its way toward this unexplored world. Learn more: http://buff.ly/1z4Eyfd
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(http://i.imgur.com/eIt2ggN.jpg)
Looks like we discovered an alien spaceship. :lol:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04tcfw8
Starts about 30 mins in, an hour of questions answered by Chris Hadfield. Really good.
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http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/12/7381083/nasa-to-see-budget-increase-under-federal-spending-bill
:thup:
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$18 billion though. :anguish: I know it's a cliche now, but the US military budget is something between $600b and $700b I think? Take even $100b off the military and give it to NASA for just one year and we'd make so much progress.
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$18 billion though. :anguish: I know it's a cliche now, but the US military budget is something between $600b and $700b I think? Take even $100b off the military and give it to NASA for just one year and we'd make so much progress.
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It really is absurd. Need another space race to get these jingoistic "America, f*** Yeah" assholes going.
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Does anyone know the global budget for space agencies combined? It's incredible how far NASA make their budget stretch given that it's a relative drop in the ocean and they're known as the world leaders.
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(http://i.imgur.com/eIt2ggN.jpg)
Looks like we discovered an alien spaceship. :lol:
What is this from, by the way?
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It's from the US military ship that recovered Orion I believe.
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Aah, gotcha. :thup:
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Curiosity Rover Drills Into Mars Rock, Finds Water
NASA's Curiosity rover is continuing to help scientists piece together the mystery of how Mars lost its surface water over the course of billions of years.
The rover drilled into a piece of Martian rock called Cumberland and found some ancient water hidden within it. Researchers were then able to test a key ratio in the water with Curiosity's onboard instruments to gather more data about when Mars started to lose its water, NASA officials said. In the same sample, Curiosity also detected the first organic molecules it has found. Mission scientists announced the discovery in a news conference today (Dec. 15) at the American Geophysical Union's convention in San Francisco, where they also unveiled Curiosity's first detection of methane on Mars.
"It's really interesting that our measurements from Curiosity of gases extracted from ancient rocks can tell us about loss of water from Mars," Paul Mahaffy, Curiosity's SAM (Sample Analysis at Mars) instrument principal investigator at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, said in a statement.
Curiosity measured the ratio of deuterium (heavy hydrogen) to "normal" hydrogen. This D-to-H ratio can help scientists see how long it takes for water molecules to escape, because the lighter hydrogen molecules fly toward the upper atmosphere more freely than deuterium does.
The D-to-H ratio in Cumberland is about half the ratio found in the Martian atmosphere's water vapor today, NASA officials said. This suggests that the planet lost much of its surface water after the Cumberland rock formed, space agency officials added in the same statement.
But the water sample is also about three times "heavier" than Earth's oceans. This means that if Mars' surface water started off with a D-to-H ratio like Earth's, then most of the Martian water likely disappeared before Cumberland formed about 3.9 billion to 4.6 billion years ago.
The Cumberland measurement fills in a gap for scientists studying different epochs of Martian geological evolution. This sampling marks the first time scientists have been able to measure what the water on Mars may have been like during the Hesperian period, when this rock was formed, said Mahaffy, who is the lead author of a Mars water study published in the journal Science this week.
Previously, scientists have used Martian meteorites on Earth to sample Martian water; however, none of those space rocks date back to the Hesperian period.
"You have the whole period from 2.5 billion to 4 billion years old, and there's no data that we have from Mars meteorites just because we haven't found any yet, I guess," Mahaffy told Space.com. "So, it's very gratifying to be able to fill in that picture a little bit."
http://news.yahoo.com/curiosity-rover-drills-mars-rock-finds-water-122321635.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXU0dseMe0s
The water bit at 13:45 is amazing.
Also, why aren't videos embedding?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30549341
Class. Though I highly doubt it's ratcheting.
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New desktop background right there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNwWOul4i9Y
:sweetjesus:
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http://vimeo.com/108650530
Amazing.
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Amazing.
It's a brilliant video, isn't it. Currently reading the Pale Blue Dot thanks to this.
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Hurricane on Saturn that is 2.3 times the size of Earth:
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Go outside (or look out the window).
The Moon has a huge halo around it :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22%C2%B0_halo
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Probably the biggest image on the internet, but if you can get the zoom feature to load you'll be blown away by how many stars are in this:
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic1502a/
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3068386
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3068386
The wonders of technology and the 404 page. Just think how people would marvel at it only 30 year ago.
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:lol: Missed a number.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30683860
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Mother...
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:lol: that's better. But i stand by my point.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3068386
The wonders of technology and the 404 page. Just think how people would marvel at it only 30 year ago.
Moron can't even copy and paste a link. :p
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:lol:
:okay:
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Philae is last year's news. All about Dawn and New Horizons now.
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Are NASA or wheoever still going ahead with the Hubble telescope replacement/upgrade?
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I believe they see the James Webb telescope as the successor. It launches in 2018.
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I believe they see the James Webb telescope as the successor. It launches in 2018.
:thup:
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Can't wait for the James Webb to go up.
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Old Jimmy Webb's gonna show us all dem stars.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOIPZayCEDA
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/neil-degrasse-tyson-lands-tv-talk-show/
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Found this rather interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1HUTLtNW4
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M45 is looking canny lively tonight.
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new NASA Heliophysics video from the Solar Dynamics Observatory
incredible imagery :kasper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVv40M2aks
insane scale :lol:
(http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/Sun-Earth_br.jpg)
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A solar flare would f*** us so hard.
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It would take a fairly epic flare to truly f*** us
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It would take a fairly epic flare to truly f*** us
I just knew you'd have a response to that post. Should've put money on it. :lol:
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I never claimed to be anything other than pedantic :lol:
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http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/nasa-wants-to-send-a-submarine-to-titans-seas-150212.htm#mkcpgn=rssnws1
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/county-durham-mum-goes-war-8643699
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04lcxms/cosmonauts-how-russia-won-the-space-race
BBC4 :smitten:
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(http://i.imgur.com/JTK89Oc.gif)
aliums
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Partial Solar Eclipse on the 20th, this will be the last one we see in the UK until 2026.
Its around 9.30am in the morning for the interested peeps.
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Horizon on BBC2 (should be on Iplayer) this week was talking to scientists about the planets in our solar system and how new data indicates that Jupiter is the in the wrong place. The scientists and some astronomers think there was now another gas giant in our soloar system that Jupiter has bounced out of orbit.
They've looked at all these other planets orbiting stars and compared them it ours, it appears our solar system is the odd one out. Give it a watch, really interesting.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31162725
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(http://i.imgur.com/UIyhqjg.png)
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Boom. In orbit.
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(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/81670000/jpg/_81670712_meteor.jpg)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-31904273
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https://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3
Total scam it seems.
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Looking a very good night for Aurora watchers.
We need a KP 6 or higher to view, currently running at a kp 8.8
http://www.aurora-service.eu/aurora-forecast/
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(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11057481_10153149570055505_175809629594142526_o.jpg)
Got to watch the eclipse from an observatory.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2AdY8aEoUY
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/murky-mercury-is-solar-systems-rubbish-dump-say-scientists-10144925.html
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There's a SpaceX launch tonight to the ISS. SpaceX launches are by far the best to watch, they have cameras set up for fairing and stage separations as well as a fuel tank cam. They are also going to try and land the first stage on a barge out at sea again.
You can watch it live here in just over an hour and a half:
http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
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Postponed 24 hours due to weather.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/biggest-structure-in-the-universe-is-huge-hole-scientists-find-10191344.html
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Something something your mother
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Russian supply ship that failed to dock with the ISS is coming down to earth at a rate of f***ing knots, like..
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=40619
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(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/3018710552_f8cebf1dab_b.jpg)
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Going back up now...
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The European Space Agency (Esa) says its comet lander, Philae, has woken up and contacted Earth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33126885
:)
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(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/mediumsize/PIA19579_ip.jpg)
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4633
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ayyy lmao
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SpaceX's unmanned Falcon 9 resupply mission to the ISS, launch failure. Explosion shortly after liftoff.
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http://www.cnet.com/news/slumbering-black-hole-in-milky-way-roars-back-to-life/
Say your goodbyes.
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http://www.cnet.com/news/slumbering-black-hole-in-milky-way-roars-back-to-life/
Say your goodbyes.
Its miles away.
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With any luck the future humans put it there.
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Some little bitches books are going to start falling off shelves in Morse code now.
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http://rosetta.jpl.nasa.gov/news/comet-sinkholes-generate-jets
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http://io9.com/what-to-expect-from-aliens-when-we-make-first-contact-1715402190
A really good read.
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http://io9.com/what-to-expect-from-aliens-when-we-make-first-contact-1715402190
A really good read.
Good read that.
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Pluto :aww:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33524589
(http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/114BE/production/_84264807_84264806.jpg)
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Looks boring.
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Looks like a musket ball.
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Maybe it is.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ4ejHkUsAAEAnm.jpg:large)
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Talking s*** about Pluto. Y'all have stooped to a new low.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/07/20/alien-life-investigation/30408501/?hootPostID=3bc651b1550e86e2fd2bafa46ba7e133
LONDON — World renowned scientist Stephen Hawking and entrepreneur Yuri Milner announced Monday an unprecedented $100 million project to determine if intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.
The Breakthough Initiatives division at the Royal Society — the U.K's national academy of science — said it would be "the most powerful, comprehensive and intensive" such search ever conducted.
The 10-year project will access to the powerful Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia and the Parkes Telescope in New South Wales, Australia, to survey the million stars closest to Earth, and will cover 10 times more sky than previous projects, the investigators said.
"Somewhere in the cosmos, perhaps, intelligent life may be watching these lights of ours, aware of what they mean," Hawking said, according to the BBC.
"Or do our lights wander a lifeless cosmos — unseen beacons, announcing that here, on one rock, the Universe discovered its existence. Either way, there is no bigger question. It's time to commit to finding the answer — to search for life beyond Earth," he said.
"We are alive. We are intelligent. We must know."
Breakthrough Initiatives said all data from the project will be available to other scientists, who will be able to add to it and develop their own applications to analyze the material.
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While I'm 100% certain that life exists elsewhere, I'm more pessimistic that it's close enough for us to be able to contact/locate.
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While I'm 100% certain that life exists elsewhere, I'm more pessimistic that it's close enough for us to be able to contact/locate.
This pretty much :thup: If we were the only life in the entire Universe, with Billions of stars and copious amounts of planets circling them, it would be quite literally incredible.
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It's weird because the odds for there being habitable worlds within the Goldilocks zone are quite long, whilst you would think that the probability of there being life within the billions of galaxies is quite short. Statistically you would think it's very likely, but obviously that's only based on the observable. Finding intelligent life is the one like. If that happens within our lifetimes we can all die happy imo.
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or die in a puddle of plasma, two aren't mutually exclusive I suppose
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Will be interesting to see how the religions of the world deal with the discovery of ET life.
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If the universe is infinite then there's infinite amounts of life out there. I don't believe it is infinite, but it's quite big and I'd say Earth isn't the only living place, even if the criteria for habitability is immeasurably precise. If they can't even rule out the possibility of our closest planetary neighbour ever having life - of all the vastness of the universe - I think it's pretty fair to estimate that it really is elsewhere.
Been watching loads of this sorta s*** recently, and am actually 'coming around' to the multiverse idea, based on the idea that infinity is an actual concept. Infinite universes with infinite permutations. Trippy.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the model for an infinite universe really works like that in terms of there being infinite amounts of possibility for life. Although, taking spacetime into account it gets tricky because then everything that has happened, is happening and will ever happen already exists. But in terms of practicality, it obviously can't be observed in that way by us at the moment.
Multiverses are weird to me because the theory can't be, or at least hasn't been scientifically evaluated.
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I think Starship Troopers got it right. There'll be life, but it'll be big ass nasty bugs that want to f*** us.
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Was watching a vid the other night that stated (I think :lol:) that: if the universe is a googleplex square metres in size (which is a finite number) - and you were to search long enough - you'd eventually encounter an exact copy of yourself. Simply because there's a finite number of permutations for matter to occupy one square metre (which is, on average, the same amount of space a human and its trillions of cells occupies). There's something like 10 to the power 70 different possibilities for matter to occupy a square metre, but googleplex is 10 to the power of a googol. So eventually there would be repeats.
Something like that. I dunno.
:bluf:
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:bluf:
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My head hurts.
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Was watching a vid the other night that stated (I think :lol:) that: if the universe is a googleplex square metres in size (which is a finite number) - and you were to search long enough - you'd eventually encounter an exact copy of yourself. Simply because there's a finite number of permutations for matter to occupy one square metre (which is, on average, the same amount of space a human and its trillions of cells occupies). There's something like 10 to the power 70 different possibilities for matter to occupy a square metre, but googleplex is 10 to the power of a googol. So eventually there would be repeats.
Something like that. I dunno.
:bluf:
That makes no sense. :lol:
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Was watching a vid the other night that stated (I think :lol:) that: if the universe is a googleplex square metres in size (which is a finite number) - and you were to search long enough - you'd eventually encounter an exact copy of yourself. Simply because there's a finite number of permutations for matter to occupy one square metre (which is, on average, the same amount of space a human and its trillions of cells occupies). There's something like 10 to the power 70 different possibilities for matter to occupy a square metre, but googleplex is 10 to the power of a googol. So eventually there would be repeats.
Something like that. I dunno.
:bluf:
10^70 vs 10^10^100? Sure it wasn't 10^10^70
Even then doesn't that suppose all 10^10^70 combinations of matter are equally likely to occur? For example some sort of virus is one possibility while Yorkie is another, I'd imagine one is a lot more likely to occur from a purely statistical point of view
Actually ignore the first bit it still works mathematically maybe you're right. Still sounds a little low to me
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It's just a half-baked theory that I didn't explain very well.
Basically... if the total number of permutations for which matter can coalesce into a square metre is a number smaller than the total amount of square metres in the universe - eventually things start repeating. There's more space than there is ways for matter to relate to each other, so there are exact copies. I think. I dunno. It isn't my theory. :lol:
:bluf:
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Is this the event horizon?
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Mother F....
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:lol: :lol:
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Here's a nerd. Watch the nerd.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEebx72-qs
03:50.
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It's just a half-baked theory that I didn't explain very well.
Basically... if the total number of permutations for which matter can coalesce into a square metre is a number smaller than the total amount of square metres in the universe - eventually things start repeating. There's more space than there is ways for matter to relate to each other, so there are exact copies. I think. I dunno. It isn't my theory. :lol:
:bluf:
https://thump.vice.com/en_uk/article/not-getting-laid-check-out-wikihows-illustrated-guide-to-picking-up-girls-in-the-club
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Heh, this sort of s*** has helped me fail with girls, like. One once ran away whilst I was staring at a clock trying to explain the stopped clock illusion (whereby the second hand appears to freeze momentarily the moment you face the clock). Well, I say ran away, she might have slowly crept. I don't know how long I was talking to the clock. Which is quite ironic, I suppose.
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Here's a nerd. Watch the nerd.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEebx72-qs
03:50.
I'd be so much more comfortable with him saying you could see repetition rather than would. It's like saying p well there's only three possible outcomes of a football match, therefore if dunston play man city four times you can expect a win.
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Heh, this sort of s*** has helped me fail with girls, like. One once ran away whilst I was staring at a clock trying to explain the stopped clock illusion (whereby the second hand appears to freeze momentarily the moment you face the clock). Well, I say ran away, she might have slowly crept. I don't know how long I was talking to the clock.
Never heard of that but just looked on Wikipedia... The opening paragraph has really unnerved me and I can't say why
"This effect can extend apparent durations by up to 500 ms and is consistent with the idea that the visual system models events prior to perception"
2spoopy4me
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSf8i8bHIns
Loosely related to that chronostasis thing - check out this s*** about blind people still being able to 'see'.
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Heh, this sort of s*** has helped me fail with girls, like. One once ran away whilst I was staring at a clock trying to explain the stopped clock illusion (whereby the second hand appears to freeze momentarily the moment you face the clock). Well, I say ran away, she might have slowly crept. I don't know how long I was talking to the clock. Which is quite ironic, I suppose.
:lol: I was only referring to the coalesce bit tbh, but I'm pleased that you shared that. Failing with lasses stories are mint.
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Ah yes. :lol:
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSf8i8bHIns
Loosely related to that chronostasis thing - check out this s*** about blind people still being able to 'see'.
Nice. On the déjà vu bit, been getting that a lot recently; convinced it's because at some point in my near future I get kicked off my course and strike a Faustian bargain to do it all again. Although his explanation is a lot more sensible must be said.
Honestly think the brain is more mysterious than anything intergalactic/cosmic/spacey (Kevin or otherwise
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The universe isn't infinite - it's been expanding since the big bang which means it must have physical dimensions.
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It's just a half-baked theory that I didn't explain very well.
Basically... if the total number of permutations for which matter can coalesce into a square metre is a number smaller than the total amount of square metres in the universe - eventually things start repeating. There's more space than there is ways for matter to relate to each other, so there are exact copies. I think. I dunno. It isn't my theory. :lol:
:bluf:
Matter isn't like girls in a club, it doesn't just coalesce. (EDIT: FFS KI)
That theory doesn't seem to take into account the amount of empty space around.
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The universe isn't infinite - it's been expanding since the big bang which means it must have physical dimensions.
It can be infinite and still be expanding
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How? If it started moving from a single point a specified time ago, how do the outermost particles ever reach ∞ miles away from that point?
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Rough calculation tells me the absolute maximum radius of the universe is 1.3 x 10^26 miles. Which is still f***ing massive like.
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What a nerd.
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How? If it started moving from a single point a specified time ago, how do the outermost particles ever reach ∞ miles away from that point?
It isn't moving away from a single point and it isn't expanding in to anything. There's just more space being created between things; it's the scale of space that is expanding rather than the universe being like a balloon. In fact the balloon analogy only really applies if you think of the universe in 2d.
There's many out there who don't think it is infinite but not because expansion implies finite space
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There's a class animation somewhere that shows the distance between things expanding rather than it being like a balloon expanding 'into' nothingness. I think it was on NDT's Cosmos.
Either way this one does the trick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xTzM5vx1wc
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By single point I mean the big bang. There's a maximum speed and maximum time that matter could have been moving. There can't be any further than that can there?
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By single point I mean the big bang. There's a maximum speed and maximum time that matter could have been moving. There can't be any further than that can there?
It's more the space that is expanding not the matter
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSf8i8bHIns
Loosely related to that chronostasis thing - check out this s*** about blind people still being able to 'see'.
Love stuff like this!
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It's weird because the odds for there being habitable worlds within the Goldilocks zone are quite long, whilst you would think that the probability of there being life within the billions of galaxies is quite short. Statistically you would think it's very likely, but obviously that's only based on the observable. Finding intelligent life is the one like. If that happens within our lifetimes we can all die happy imo.
Not really, because there are so many damn planets out there.
The thing that bothers me is the timescale of the whole thing, at least with regard to intelligent life. The probability of there being other life in the universe strikes me as being very close to 1, and of there being intelligent life not significantly lower.
The probability of their being around at the same time as us and within reachable distance (whatever that means) is a very different matter.
I don't see much chance of our contacting extraterrestrials unless we hang around for a very long time or the universe is absolutely rotten with intelligent life.
That said, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find life on Europa.
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It's weird because the odds for there being habitable worlds within the Goldilocks zone are quite long, whilst you would think that the probability of there being life within the billions of galaxies is quite short. Statistically you would think it's very likely, but obviously that's only based on the observable. Finding intelligent life is the one like. If that happens within our lifetimes we can all die happy imo.
Not really, because there are so many damn planets out there.
The thing that bothers me is the timescale of the whole thing, at least with regard to intelligent life. The probability of there being other life in the universe strikes me as being very close to 1, and of there being intelligent life not significantly lower.
The probability of their being around at the same time as us and within reachable distance (whatever that means) is a very different matter.
I don't see much chance of our contacting extraterrestrials unless we hang around for a very long time or the universe is absolutely rotten with intelligent life.
That said, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find life on Europa.
Always found Terence McKenna's theories on ETs quite interesting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljy3TH1T0jk
:whistle:
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4660
NASA Hosts Media Telecon About Latest Kepler Discoveries
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-announcement-live-second-earth-new-planet-kepler-space-telescope-10410960.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-announcement-live-second-earth-new-planet-kepler-space-telescope-10410960.html)
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Holy s***.
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indeed.
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first step announce earth like planet
second step pick up signs of "intelligent life"
third use HAARP to project a holograph of aliens across our skies
fourth talk of a need for a single world government
fifth appoint president donald trump as the inaugural PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD
it's happening folks
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Sadly I know a few of people who would believe this, Toondave. I related to one of these infowars idiots my theory about Tom and Jerry being written by Nazi war criminals bent on brainwashing us in preparation for the 4th Reich. It's obvious. Tommies and Jerries. Jerry is always right and wins. He actually went and told his people in front of me at a film festival. I was trying to make a point and it gloriously backfired.
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The comments on many of these articles about this second Earth planet indicate that we need to continue our search for intelligent life right here on Earth.
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Sadly I know a few of people who would believe this, Toondave. I related to one of these infowars idiots my theory about Tom and Jerry being written by Nazi war criminals bent on brainwashing us in preparation for the 4th Reich. It's obvious. Tommies and Jerries. Jerry is always right and wins. He actually went and told his people in front of me at a film festival. I was trying to make a point and it gloriously backfired.
:lol:
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Yeah, apparently a large cross-section just figured out that larger mass means greater gravity. When I become Supreme Dictator, every infant will have Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation on their chests and Newton's Laws of Motion on their arms. A good starting point for these future assholes.
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Have the Daily Mail posted an article talking about aliens yet?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11769030/Impossible-rocket-drive-works-and-could-get-to-Moon-in-four-hours.html
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Surprised Branson isn't all over that.
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Pluto truthers now...
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Show us.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11769030/Impossible-rocket-drive-works-and-could-get-to-Moon-in-four-hours.html
Lush.
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http://www.newsweek.com/inside-pluto-truther-movement-which-claims-flyby-was-faked-355150 (http://www.newsweek.com/inside-pluto-truther-movement-which-claims-flyby-was-faked-355150)
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Rosetta and NASA? So much for "well-researched"
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Jonathan McDowell, an astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, says by email: “It's difficult to respond in detail to statements that make no sense.”
:lol:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11769030/Impossible-rocket-drive-works-and-could-get-to-Moon-in-four-hours.html
I don't think we should be sucking each other's dicks in celebration just yet. University of Dresden team said that there were some anomolies that need further investigation before they can properly verify anything.
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https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/hubble-sees-the-wings-of-a-butterfly-the-twin-jet-nebula
Worth looking at just for the beauty of the colours.
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https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/hubble-sees-the-wings-of-a-butterfly-the-twin-jet-nebula
Worth looking at just for the beauty of the colours.
Very cool, thanks for that.
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http://stars.chromeexperiments.com/
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http://stars.chromeexperiments.com/
That hurts my head, shame its all so far away!
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http://stars.chromeexperiments.com/
Nice. :thup:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR3Igc3Rhfg
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Holy s*** thats awesome.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR3Igc3Rhfg
Awesome.
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Mars 'mystery solved': has Nasa found water flowing on the Red Planet?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11894339/nasa-announcement-life-on-mars-mystery-solved.html
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Red moon tonight innit.
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:megusta:
Lectures start again tomorrow but might just go for a wander up Peaks all night if it stays clear for the eclipse.
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Matt Taylor (the guy with the shirt) is giving a talk about the Rosetta mission at my uni next month.
:megusta:
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https://www.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=700cc53508344ad0812c7e6841962887
:megusta:
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When are easy jet doing cheap flights to Mars?
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When are easy jet doing cheap flights to Mars?
They'd need to give Yorkie a job designing their planes.
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Liquid water confirmed on Mars. Had previously confirmed water in the form of ice. Probably a saline water, meaning it can be in liquid form despite the cold temperatures. Wherever there is liquid water on earth, there is life. Just how briney and how cold the water is, will determine it's habitability.
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http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-confirms-evidence-that-liquid-water-flows-on-today-s-mars
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If they find bacteria there, its gonna be interesting to hear what Christians and Muslims think of it.
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If they find bacteria there, its gonna be interesting to hear what Christians and Muslims think of it.
Who cares what they think? They're ignoring evidence now, they'll ignore that too.
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I dont much care what they thinnk troll; I do want to see their entire raison d'etre thwarted. They'll cough and splutter their way through some convoluted reasoning (if you'll forgive the use of that word when it comes to religion).
Well done to the NASA for their Stirling work.
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(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/48f50fab965827f9815be593c2f730f4/202711243/mars-dark-slope-streaks-2015-09-28-01.gif)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/t31.0-8/12045405_10153573682886772_4411909504290978847_o.jpg)
These dark, narrow, 100 meter-long streaks called recurring slope lineae flowing downhill on Mars are inferred to have been formed by contemporary flowing water. Recently, planetary scientists detected hydrated salts on these slopes at Hale crater, corroborating their original hypothesis that the streaks are indeed formed by liquid water. The blue color seen upslope of the dark streaks are thought not to be related to their formation, but instead are from the presence of the mineral pyroxene.
(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/dc4ee84bd0cba79bf3586d1773a3239a/202710778/mars-slope-lineae-channels-2015-09-28-01.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/AyQY6ICh.jpg
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ayy lmaos confirmed. Mass relays by this time next year, bookmark this post :frantic:
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ayy lmaos confirmed. Mass relays by this time next year, bookmark this post :frantic:
Just need to find that Prothean data cache.
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I find it funny that this news came out the week the Martian is getting released, which was made in conjunction with NASA :lol:
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I find it funny that this news came out the week the Martian is getting released, which was made in conjunction with NASA :lol:
Publicity 100%
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I find it funny that this news came out the week the Martian is getting released, which was made in conjunction with NASA :lol:
Apparently the location where the water was found is the same location Damon is stranded in during the movie. :lol:
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http://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-why-nasa-s-mars-rovers-are-banned-from-investigating-that-liquid-water
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html
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I love how these discoveries are always about aliens in the media. Of course the tabloids are like "ET phone home? Scientists may have discovered GIANT alien MEGASTRUCTURES near Earth".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVym6ITIUgI
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html
:lol: The idea that there could be evidence of something like that. If it were true we'd be seeing what they had going 1400 years ago, too. God knows what the f***ers would be up to now.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html
:lol: The idea that there could be evidence of something like that. If it were true we'd be seeing what they had going 1400 years ago, too. God knows what the f***ers would be up to now.
Institutional racism and cat gifs
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:lol:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html
:lol: The idea that there could be evidence of something like that. If it were true we'd be seeing what they had going 1400 years ago, too. God knows what the f***ers would be up to now.
Institutional racism and cat gifs
:lol: Well of course.
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(http://www.sciencemag.org/content/350/6258/aad1815/F1.large.jpg)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html
:lol: The idea that there could be evidence of something like that. If it were true we'd be seeing what they had going 1400 years ago, too. God knows what the f***ers would be up to now.
Institutional racism and cat gifs
:lol: Well of course.
Nailed on :lol:
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What's that Decky ?
Amazing photo.
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Pluto.
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This is how the world will end: annihilated by a dying star.
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/found-a-dying-star-gobbling-a-broken-planet
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No doubt a dumb question to those who know but how the f*** do we observe stars 570 lightyears away?
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No doubt a dumb question to those who know but how the f*** do we observe stars 570 lightyears away?
It's not realtime; we're just now seeing what's happening 570 years ago, since that's how long it takes the light to reach us. We don't know what's going on at the moment, but we can make predictions and observe and see how they line up when the light reaches us.
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No doubt a dumb question to those who know but how the f*** do we observe stars 570 lightyears away?
It's not realtime; we're just now seeing what's happening 570 years ago, since that's how long it takes the light to reach us. We don't know what's going on at the moment, but we can make predictions and observe and see how they line up when the light reaches us.
mind. blown.
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No doubt a dumb question to those who know but how the f*** do we observe stars 570 lightyears away?
It's not realtime; we're just now seeing what's happening 570 years ago, since that's how long it takes the light to reach us. We don't know what's going on at the moment, but we can make predictions and observe and see how they line up when the light reaches us.
mind. blown.
The Hubble Deep Field image actually enables us to see a flash of light only a few hundred thousand years after the birth of the universe. How they determine how old light is is another matter though, doubt I'll ever understand it.
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This is how the world will end: annihilated by a dying star.
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/found-a-dying-star-gobbling-a-broken-planet
Will already be consumed when the Sun is a red giant long before it's a white dwarf though won't it? Think the Sun as a red giant is expected to expand out beyond Mars.
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I read they thought possibly, but it could stop short. Not that there'll be any humans about anywhere to know.
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I read they thought possibly, but it could stop short. Not that there'll be any humans about anywhere to know.
Nah, we'll all be floating about inside bookcases whispering to robots by then.
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Space and time really does my little brain in. There's been life on Earth for around 3.5 billion years and the Earth has an estimated 7.5 billion years left before the Sun gets us or a lot sooner if something else does. Stephen Hawking reckons we have a maximum of 1,000 years left to get colonies going elsewhere.
How the f*ck do we get the to point where we are able to leave this planet, colonise and terraform another, say Mars as a test, and then become interstellar so that when the Sun has eaten our Solar System we are safe somewhere else.
Technology has come on leaps and bounds in less than 100 years but surely it will slow and a mega jump is needed to bridge the gap from what we know and what we need to know. Estimates reckon you'll need at least 10,000 people for a successful colonisation (for disease, genetics and the like) and how do you transport those numbers.
We have limited resources on Earth which we can use to manage pretty mundane speeds for short distances. Ive no idea how much money is being thrown into research but I'd wager it isn't currently enough.
It really shouldn't bother me that much but it is something I think about quite a bit. Mainly because it does my head in at how colossus it all seems.
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Space and time really does my little brain in. There's been life on Earth for around 3.5 billion years and the Earth has an estimated 7.5 billion years left before the Sun gets us or a lot sooner if something else does. Stephen Hawking reckons we have a maximum of 1,000 years left to get colonies going elsewhere.
How the f*ck do we get the to point where we are able to leave this planet, colonise and terraform another, say Mars as a test, and then become interstellar so that when the Sun has eaten our Solar System we are safe somewhere else.
Technology has come on leaps and bounds in less than 100 years but surely it will slow and a mega jump is needed to bridge the gap from what we know and what we need to know. Estimates reckon you'll need at least 10,000 people for a successful colonisation (for disease, genetics and the like) and how do you transport those numbers.
We have limited resources on Earth which we can use to manage pretty mundane speeds for short distances. Ive no idea how much money is being thrown into research but I'd wager it isn't currently enough.
It really shouldn't bother me that much but it is something I think about quite a bit. Mainly because it does my head in at how colossus it all seems.
Why will technology slow down?
Disease won't be much of a problem by the time we get to interstellar colonisation I'd wager.
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Space and time really does my little brain in. There's been life on Earth for around 3.5 billion years and the Earth has an estimated 7.5 billion years left before the Sun gets us or a lot sooner if something else does. Stephen Hawking reckons we have a maximum of 1,000 years left to get colonies going elsewhere.
How the f*ck do we get the to point where we are able to leave this planet, colonise and terraform another, say Mars as a test, and then become interstellar so that when the Sun has eaten our Solar System we are safe somewhere else.
Technology has come on leaps and bounds in less than 100 years but surely it will slow and a mega jump is needed to bridge the gap from what we know and what we need to know. Estimates reckon you'll need at least 10,000 people for a successful colonisation (for disease, genetics and the like) and how do you transport those numbers.
We have limited resources on Earth which we can use to manage pretty mundane speeds for short distances. Ive no idea how much money is being thrown into research but I'd wager it isn't currently enough.
It really shouldn't bother me that much but it is something I think about quite a bit. Mainly because it does my head in at how colossus it all seems.
Why will technology slow down?
Disease won't be much of a problem by the time we get to interstellar colonisation I'd wager.
I'm assuming that technology will slow down unless a quantum leap is made simply because the current rate is seemingly unsustainable. That may be me just being small minded.
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