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Title: Pre-season specialist Haris Vučkić joins FC Twente
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:32:27 PM
I get the feeling this lad is going to take the football word by storm and he desreves his own "Ranger" type thread.

(http://www.nufcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/haris-vuckic.jpg)


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Haris Vuckic set to go after wowing in training
Sep 10 2009  by Lee Ryder, Evening Chronicle

HARIS VUCKIC walked past the glittering array of sports cars, jeeps and convertibles at Newcastle United’s plush Benton base.

Then, after getting changed in a foreign atmosphere surrounded by a language he didn’t understand, the teenager took his place on the training field alongside global icons such as Michael Owen, Mark Viduka and Nicky Butt.

But rather than be daunted on that cold morning in February this year, Vuckic – then just 16 – instead left some of his senior international colleagues sporting jaw-dropping expressions as he wowed his new team-mates.

Now, after a series of sparkling displays for United during second string pre-season training, the boy living life in a man’s body is regarded as a first-team squad member by the Newcastle backroom team.

And, while Toon fans still crave new faces on Tyneside, this fresh-faced Slovenian could be about to turn into a true Gallowgate hero.

Vuckic can operate as an attacking midfielder or good old-fashioned centre forward, and his raw prodigal skills, strength in the air and a left foot to die for have already caught the attention of AC Milan no less.

However, less than a year into a three-and-a-half year deal on Tyneside, Vuckic could be ready to seize the chance that wouldn’t have come his way so soon had the United big guns he impressed so much in training managed to rediscover their scoring touch and stave off the threat of relegation.

Highly-regarded United coach Alan Thompson told the Chronicle: “We signed him last season from FC Domzale.

“I’d never heard of them!

“But as soon as he came into the club there was something about him.

“He caught the eye of people like Michael Owen and Mark Viduka last season in training, they were really impressed.

“I remember when he first walked on to the training field, people thought he was a 21-year-old. But he was only 16!

“He is still one for the future – but a good one.”

Vuckic has steadily worked his way up the international youth ranks with Slovenia to Under-19 level and made his United debut in the 1-0 win over Leicester City.

Now, with a trip to Cardiff City up and coming, he could well be thrown in at the deep end, yet Thompson feels that he’s ready to deal with the rigours of Championship life.

He said: “He’s a big lad. He’s physically very good and he has great energy about him.

“He can also run all day for the team. There’s a few of them who are a bit young still and aren’t ready for that step yet.

“But it’s good that they come into the reserves against older teams.

“That’s a place where they can show they are physically up for it.”

Thompson, who has worked with Academy director and link man to the first team in Richard Money for the last 12 months nurturing the young talent and hot prospects for the future at St James’s, has been delighted of late with Nile Ranger, Ryan Donaldson, Tamas Kadar and Vuckic all getting their debuts for the Mags.

But despite the emergence of a crop of youngsters beginning to burst on to the scene at Newcastle despite the gloom of last season’s relegation, Thompson feels while there are reasons to be cheerful, he, Money and the Academy staff are merely getting on with the job in hand.

He said: “That’s what we are here for.

“Kenny Wharton has them up until Under-18 and then if they are good enough he will pass them on to me.

“That’s what we are trying to achieve – get as many through as we can.”

Thompson added: “It’s nice when the first team are winning. Hopefully that can rub off on the rest of us.

“It’s looking good at the moment on a lot of different fronts – long may it continue.”
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/09/10/haris-vuckic-set-to-go-after-wowing-in-training-72703-24654777/ (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/09/10/haris-vuckic-set-to-go-after-wowing-in-training-72703-24654777/)
Title: Re: The Harris Vucick Thread
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:33:15 PM
At least you could spell his name right.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:33:57 PM
At least you could spell his name right.

 :facepalm:
:lol: was already on it
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:34:30 PM
At least you could spell his name right.

 :facepalm:
:lol: was already on it

 :laugh:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:37:30 PM
He seems to be one to watch like, I am hearing that he has a very good chance of keeping Nolan out of the "behind the striker" role, he is mean tto be "magical".

Its just a shame there is a massive chance we will lose him to a much bigger club if Ashley still owns us next season..
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Gorilla on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:38:25 PM
At least you could spell his name right.

 :facepalm:
Give the lad a break he's nigh on blind man.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mowen on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:41:08 PM
Would enjoy seeing him get a bit of pitch time (i.e. 30mins+) at Peterborough.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:42:44 PM
Would enjoy seeing him get a bit of pitch time (i.e. 30mins+) at Peterborough.

Rumour he may start on Sunday, thats how much he has impressed.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mowen on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:44:09 PM
Would enjoy seeing him get a bit of pitch time (i.e. 30mins+) at Peterborough.

Rumour he may start on Sunday, thats how much he has impressed.

f***ing hell. Would be very surprised, but would be pretty exciting. I'll have to try and fit his name into a chant on the train down.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:44:22 PM
If he is as good as people say I would imagine he will get a fair few games this season. 17 isn't that young in football these days, especially at this level where the best kids are loaned out to get experience.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:45:55 PM
Would enjoy seeing him get a bit of pitch time (i.e. 30mins+) at Peterborough.

Rumour he may start on Sunday, thats how much he has impressed.

He won't be starting, it's proably just good man management by Hughton to talk him up. Hopefully it's the same with Hughton praising Nicky Butt as well.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:47:12 PM
The buzz about him in training is massive, gets stuck right in to so I hear, a big lad thats fast, powerful and very very skillful.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:47:33 PM
Would take any manager a huge set of balls to play him from the start. It's easy for the likes of Ipswich to throw that young striker in, Palace with their youngsters etc. but can you see any manager dropping senior players on huge wages to play him, never mind Hughton?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: The Libertine on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:55:26 PM
global icons such as Michael Owen, Mark Viduka and Nicky Butt.

holy hell.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 10 September 2009, 12:56:08 PM
Should be given a -10 on FM10 if he's that good. :pow:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Thursday 10 September 2009, 01:40:55 PM
He'll get 3 mins at the end of the game.

Hopefully Hughton will atleast put him on for Nolan when he inevitably starts dieing on his arse around 65-70 mins due to lack of fitness. Its the best we can hope for I reckon.

It's exciting though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: toonlass on Thursday 10 September 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Is he a midfielder?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Thursday 10 September 2009, 01:45:29 PM
Midfield - attack
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 10 September 2009, 01:54:52 PM
Attacking creative midfield player, the type of player we have been missing for far to long.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: toonlass on Thursday 10 September 2009, 01:57:23 PM
Get him in the team then.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Adam^ on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:02:07 PM
f***ing awesome, him and ranger, the futures bright, the futures GOALS !
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: PM on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:29:13 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:30:24 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.

facepalm
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:34:41 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.

 :dowie:

Am I being whooshed?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:35:36 PM
"have already caught the attention of AC Milan no less"

Didn't they let him go in the first place?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:36:12 PM
First thing he did when he came on was go flying into a tackle.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Willow on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:43:53 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: The Libertine on Thursday 10 September 2009, 02:58:27 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,57107.0.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Thursday 10 September 2009, 05:01:04 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

Not sure the Chronicle should be doing articles like today though as its just increases the hype and pressure on the lad for when he does break into the team!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mr Logic on Thursday 10 September 2009, 06:14:16 PM
Its just a shame there is a massive chance we will lose him to a much bigger club if Ashley still owns us next season..

Big chance wether Ashley owns us or not, if he's that good and a top club starts paying attention will he want to stay or go?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Thursday 10 September 2009, 07:48:22 PM
he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

That is pretty much on the money folks.

Great summing up Binnsy :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Thursday 10 September 2009, 08:09:15 PM
He seems to be one to watch like, I am hearing that he has a very good chance of keeping Nolan out of the "behind the striker" role, he is mean tto be "magical".

Its just a shame there is a massive chance we will lose him to a much bigger club if Ashley still owns us next season..
lets be honest if they are a much bigger club he'd probably be away regardless of who is in control.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordiesned on Thursday 10 September 2009, 08:16:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDeOZcl5HQo

Anyone speak Slovenian? We got a lot of mentions in this.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Thursday 10 September 2009, 08:22:25 PM
What's Slovenian for 'can't wait to get away from the club'?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Thursday 10 September 2009, 08:26:32 PM
My Slovenian is really rusty but some of the stuff I picked up:

"Back in home country, no players like Nicky Butt, so an honour to even train with him."

"Hughton is now a legend in Haris' village in Slovenia."

He also said he was chuffed that the team is top of the Premier League but was suspicious of the disappearance of the likes of Man U and Liverpool
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Thursday 10 September 2009, 08:27:53 PM
He says;

-He's really excited at the prospect of a move to England it's a great place for a player to play

-Newcastle are a big team and he has seen them on television before and believes they can bring him on as a player

-He can't wait to meet team mates and learn from a better standard player

-He knows his debut won't be right away but he's happy to wait, he just wants to move and get settled first.

-He hopes the club can benefit from the money they gain from his transfer.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Stu on Thursday 10 September 2009, 08:53:01 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

Not sure the Chronicle should be doing articles like today though as its just increases the hype and pressure on the lad for when he does break into the team!

I know you see a lot of reserve and youth team games but have you ever been employed by the club as a scout? You seem pretty sharp with your appraisals.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Thursday 10 September 2009, 08:59:09 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

Not sure the Chronicle should be doing articles like today though as its just increases the hype and pressure on the lad for when he does break into the team!

I know you see a lot of reserve and youth team games but have you ever been employed by the club as a scout? You seem pretty sharp with your appraisals.
lets see if he's right first.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lenny on Thursday 10 September 2009, 09:12:50 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.

To be fair I kinda agree with this, he did stand around a fair bit when he came on. Benefit of the doubt though, it must be hard at 17 making your debut in front of 38,000 people, especially when another youngster has just put in a really good shift like that. I really do hope the hype around him is justified.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 10 September 2009, 09:15:46 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.

To be fair I kinda agree with this, he did stand around a fair bit when he came on. Benefit of the doubt though, it must be hard at 17 making your debut in front of 38,000 people, especially when another youngster has just put in a really good shift like that. I really do hope the hype around him is justified.

Considering Ranger had been withdrawn and we were in the last four or so minutes, Hughtons instructions to him were probably to stay higher up the pitch and hold the ball if it was hoofed up there.

Having said that, it'll be a few first team games for him to get accustomed. This is a very physical league and he might need a little while to get used to it, especially at his very young age.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Thursday 10 September 2009, 09:16:55 PM
I'll wait till he's had the ball at his feet for a bit before I judge.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Thursday 10 September 2009, 09:23:43 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

Not sure the Chronicle should be doing articles like today though as its just increases the hype and pressure on the lad for when he does break into the team!

I know you see a lot of reserve and youth team games but have you ever been employed by the club as a scout? You seem pretty sharp with your appraisals.
lets see if he's right first.

He is as of now.

Not sure if you have seen Haris play apart from the Leicester run out but that is pretty much Haris as he is now. Of course things will change with time.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ashley17 on Thursday 10 September 2009, 10:34:27 PM
He'll have to look like he gives a f*** then, unlike when he came on against Leicester.

To be fair I kinda agree with this, he did stand around a fair bit when he came on. Benefit of the doubt though, it must be hard at 17 making your debut in front of 38,000 people, especially when another youngster has just put in a really good shift like that. I really do hope the hype around him is justified.

He was getting yelled at in Leazes corner to bother his arse to close down their keeper, but as said if he's a typical number 10 then he won't be doing that kind of thing very often I'd imagine. He's going to be different to all the other youth we've had breaking into the first team - they usually make an impression with their commitment due to their relaitve lack of talent (let's be honest, we haven't exactly been blessed with talent coming through) but the Championship is going to be physical and he's not a small lad. If he just does simple things like closing down clearances I'm sure the rest of his game won't be hindered.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 10 September 2009, 11:16:00 PM
Shame if he can't head the ball, as he's fairly tall. Should work on that really. Leicester is the only time I've seen him, so can't say I know owt about the lad.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Adam^ on Thursday 10 September 2009, 11:30:43 PM
Change the title please Haris Vučkič STR88888888888888888888888 out of Slovenia
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: macca888 on Friday 11 September 2009, 03:04:13 AM
If we want a draw at the very least at Cardiff, it will be a big mistake to pitch this lad into the team alongside the likes of Ranger or an unfit Carroll. Cardiff's central defvenders will eat them for lunch. Best practice would be to give the kid game time in cup matches against lesser opposition and build up substitute appearances in games where results cannot be reversed. Once he has gained confidence in himself over a number of months, then give him a few starts, but now is not the time. The team has too much to lose.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ohmelads on Friday 11 September 2009, 08:29:33 AM
If we want a draw at the very least at Cardiff, it will be a big mistake to pitch this lad into the team alongside the likes of Ranger or an unfit Carroll. Cardiff's central defvenders will eat them for lunch. Best practice would be to give the kid game time in cup matches against lesser opposition and build up substitute appearances in games where results cannot be reversed. Once he has gained confidence in himself over a number of months, then give him a few starts, but now is not the time. The team has too much to lose.

Well said. It's all about the team. Ease the lad in, our squad is so small there'll be times he gets thrown in the deep end this year. We've got 41 games to play which means games every 3 days for large parts of the season. While we have the luxury of easing him in, do it. Cardiff away is hardly the place to throw him into the first team is it.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 11 September 2009, 09:59:24 AM
If we want a draw at the very least at Cardiff, it will be a big mistake to pitch this lad into the team alongside the likes of Ranger or an unfit Carroll. Cardiff's central defvenders will eat them for lunch. Best practice would be to give the kid game time in cup matches against lesser opposition and build up substitute appearances in games where results cannot be reversed. Once he has gained confidence in himself over a number of months, then give him a few starts, but now is not the time. The team has too much to lose.

Totally agree. Completely insane that some people want our strikeforce on Sunday to be him & Ranger.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 11 September 2009, 10:00:48 AM
If we want a draw at the very least at Cardiff, it will be a big mistake to pitch this lad into the team alongside the likes of Ranger or an unfit Carroll. Cardiff's central defvenders will eat them for lunch. Best practice would be to give the kid game time in cup matches against lesser opposition and build up substitute appearances in games where results cannot be reversed. Once he has gained confidence in himself over a number of months, then give him a few starts, but now is not the time. The team has too much to lose.

Totally agree. Completely insane that some people want our strikeforce on Sunday to be him & Ranger.

aye. One start between the two of them  :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 11 September 2009, 10:03:19 AM
If it's not broke, don't fix it. Nolan's scored 2 in 3 since playing just off a striker. Would stick with him in that position, behind either Carroll if fit, or Ranger if not.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 11 September 2009, 10:08:20 AM
If it's not broke, don't fix it. Nolan's scored 2 in 3 since playing just off a striker. Would stick with him in that position, behind either Carroll if fit, or Ranger if not.

This.

Its clear Hughton will look to exploit our midfield strength in tougher away games so to pick a team away from this thinking is pointless in all fairness.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Friday 11 September 2009, 10:13:20 AM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

Not sure the Chronicle should be doing articles like today though as its just increases the hype and pressure on the lad for when he does break into the team!

It's a shame he's not much of a tackler because we are sorely lacking in midfielders who get in goal scoring positions. Nolan won't be able to cut it in the prem if we get promoted so there's a spot to fight for.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Sunday 13 September 2009, 10:07:17 PM
I didn't really expect him to play today but does anyone think it's weird that Donaldson seems to be ahead of him in the pecking order?  What was the point of leaving him out of Wednesday if he wasn't even on the bench for Cardiff?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 13 September 2009, 10:11:43 PM
I didn't really expect him to play today but does anyone think it's weird that Donaldson seems to be ahead of him in the pecking order?  What was the point of leaving him out of Wednesday if he wasn't even on the bench for Cardiff?

He's probably got a knock, but he's an "attacking midfielder" and Donalson is a striker turned midfielder. We have no strikers so Donaldson is probably there as a desperate striking option.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Sunday 13 September 2009, 11:15:50 PM
I didn't really expect him to play today but does anyone think it's weird that Donaldson seems to be ahead of him in the pecking order?  What was the point of leaving him out of Wednesday if he wasn't even on the bench for Cardiff?

Yes but then again Donaldson also seems to be ahead of young Inman in the pecking order and i rate him as a better player than Donaldson. 
Title: Haris Vuckic
Post by: Brazilianbob on Monday 21 September 2009, 12:00:32 PM
What happened to the lad?  One minute we were expecting to see him start against Cardiff and/or Blackpool, the next he has disappeared without trace, not even getting selected for Academy or Reserve games.  Has he picked up an injury?
Title: Re: Haris Vuckic
Post by: Mowen on Monday 21 September 2009, 12:02:12 PM
Scored on Saturday didn't he?

edit: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,60541.msg1989331.html#msg1989331
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nobody on Monday 21 September 2009, 12:07:48 PM
I hope he starts tomorrow, both because it'll do him good and cause it means we can rest a senior player.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: wyn davies on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:47:00 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.


based on effort so far against posh he ain't much cop unless his left peg is knackered
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Roger Kint on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:48:12 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.


based on effort so far against posh he ain't much cop unless his left peg is knackered

God i hope thats you trying to be funny ;D
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:48:39 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.


based on effort so far against posh he ain't much cop unless his left peg is knackered

Let's hope the club hierarchy also make a decision on him based on half a game as well and get rid.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:49:35 PM
Are you at the game wyn?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: wyn davies on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:51:09 PM
Are you at the game wyn?

nah mate just listening on tranny
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:52:05 PM
How do you know how much effort he's putting in then? ???
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Keefaz on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:53:02 PM
How do you know how much effort he's putting in then? ???

He's foreign.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 08:55:29 PM
How do you know how much effort he's putting in then? ???

Positive orgones.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 09:34:22 PM
A bit too raw to be starting tbh, he needs to go out on loan to somewhere where he can get regular first team football.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TheGuv on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 09:36:11 PM
How do you know how much effort he's putting in then? ???

Positive orgones.

PEEP SHOW man are we???
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 09:56:43 PM
it surely goes without saying that he cannot be judged on tonight. You could put Drogba in that team and he'd barely get a kick
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 09:57:35 PM
it surely goes without saying that he cannot be judged on tonight. You could put Drogba in that team and he'd barely get a kick

No doubt he will be written off though.  I can already see Lee Ryder penning on article of how important the likes of Butt are after this game.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 22 September 2009, 09:59:36 PM
Lee Ryder is such a w*****. Gave Nolan and 8 and Coloccini a 7 on saturday.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mowen on Wednesday 23 September 2009, 12:06:28 PM
it surely goes without saying that he cannot be judged on tonight. You could put Drogba in that team and he'd barely get a kick

Ben Tozer on the other hand...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Wednesday 23 September 2009, 03:00:17 PM
There is no way at you can can tell if he is any good after that s*** last night, him and Ranger both were fkn stranded by a p*ss poor team effort behind them.
Judge him when he gets games with themain starting players.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Sunday 27 September 2009, 03:06:52 PM
Loved it yesterday when Nolan scored his first goal and the camera went to Hughton, all you could see was the Haris jump to his first to punch the air.

For a second it gave me slight hope that he likes it enough here to resist the big teams coming in for him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 27 September 2009, 06:14:35 PM
it surely goes without saying that he cannot be judged on tonight. You could put Drogba in that team and he'd barely get a kick

Ben Tozer on the other hand...

has looked out of his depth on a football pitch everytime i've seen him. Including 3 times in the reserves btw.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 22 October 2009, 01:15:31 PM
Crippled.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_5644126,00.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 22 October 2009, 01:16:03 PM
Newcastle starlet Haris Vuckic has been ruled out for two months after having surgery on his ankle.

The 17-year-old suffered the injury playing for Slovenia Under-19s against England last week and the forward was quickly operated on.

Vuckic has managed to break into the Magpies first-team this term starting once, against Peterborough in the League Cup, and coming off the bench twice.

The youngster was thankful that the injury had not affected his knee as well - as was first feared - and is hopeful that he will be allowed to return to his homeland before his rehabilitation can begin.

"For the next 14 days I'm not allowed to do anything, I just have to rest, rest and again rest," he told Ekipa.

"Doctors told me that I will probably be back on the field in two months time. But thank the Lord nothing is wrong with my knee.

"The tendon is just a little bit stretched so I will have to wear a splint and that is that. In two weeks time I have to go back to London and I hope everything will be okay so I can return to Slovenia and spend some time in my homeland."

Vuckic also rejected claims that he was about to switch national allegiances to Bosnia, with the Bosnians reportedly keen on helping him turn his back on Slovenia.

"As things stand in this moment, I will play for Slovenia," he added.

"I'm a Slovenian national player and things will be the same in the future."
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 22 October 2009, 01:19:29 PM
I sometimes wish International football at such ridiculous levels didn't exist.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Thursday 22 October 2009, 01:20:05 PM
"Doctors told me that I will probably be back on the field in two months time. But thank the Lord nothing is wrong with my knee."

Can I get a hallelujah?

/black pastor voice
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 22 October 2009, 01:35:58 PM
I sometimes wish International football at such ridiculous levels didn't exist.

Look at that 14-year old Scotland youth international. No Scottish blood, but due to a new rule by FIFA is eligible. Looks a good prospect actually.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 1 January 2010, 04:14:02 PM
Any idea when this lad's gonna be back then?

Was supposed to be out for 2 months so should be nearing a return, gotta feeling he'll get a few more chances towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 1 January 2010, 06:32:41 PM
Any idea when this lad's gonna be back then?

Was supposed to be out for 2 months so should be nearing a return, gotta feeling he'll get a few more chances towards the end of the season.

Probably few weeks time; looked comfortable before Christmas walking around with no crutches watching the youth game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Friday 22 January 2010, 04:42:05 PM
Quote
Newcastle United’s youth system is not famed for the quality of players it produces; but in the last couple of years there have been promising developments. Andy Carroll and Nile Ranger have made the step up to the first team and both look as they have the potential to be good players. A youngster named Haris Vučkić was signed by the club last year and though he has not come through the academy, Vučkić has impressed greatly in the youth teams.

Vučkić joined the club last January and it was quite a coup as at the time he was one of the most sought after young players in Europe and had undergone a trial at AC Milan before securing a move to Newcastle. He is still only 17, but Vučkić has already made appearances in the first-team as he came on as a substitute in the League Cup and the league in the early part of the season.

A skilful player with good technique, Vučkić can play as an attacking midfielder, second striker or as a winger. He scored on his debut for the Newcastle reserves and has impressed the coaching staff with his ability on the ball and his confidence. Unfortunately he was injured in late October and has been ruled out 3 months, but he is expected to return imminently. He already trains with the first team and is a player that the club have really high hopes for.

Vučkić qualifies to play for Slovenia and turned out at the under-19 Championships over the summer despite only being 16. He did not look out of place playing against players significantly older than him and his technical ability is already of a high standard. He took a few months to settle into life in the North-East but over the summer and the beginning of the season he began to blossom. The likes of Real Madrid and Manchester United have been linked with the wonderkid, but Newcastle are confident of holding on to him and he is likely to play some part in the latter stages of the season.
http://www.footballfancast.com/football-blogs/a-star-making-newcastles-haris-vuki
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Friday 22 January 2010, 04:43:22 PM
It's a shame he'll be wasted being managed by somebody like Hughton.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BottledDog on Friday 22 January 2010, 05:05:02 PM
It's a shame he'll be wasted being managed by somebody like Hughton.

:dowie:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 22 January 2010, 05:21:59 PM
It's a shame he'll be wasted being managed by somebody like Hughton.

Sad but probably true.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Friday 22 January 2010, 10:19:19 PM
He was doing some light training the other day at the training ground. His English somes really good.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Friday 22 January 2010, 10:20:30 PM
His English somes really good.

It's better than yours. :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Friday 22 January 2010, 10:23:07 PM
 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ChrisMcQuillan on Friday 22 January 2010, 10:31:34 PM
His English somes really good.

It's better than yours. :lol:
;D

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Friday 22 January 2010, 10:44:55 PM
His English somes really good.

It's better than yours. :lol:
Long day. :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: LooneyToonArmy on Wednesday 31 March 2010, 05:21:31 PM
apparently back from injury after playing in the reserves. Hopefully he`ll get a run out towards the end of the season.....
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TheGuv on Wednesday 31 March 2010, 05:42:08 PM
fingers crossed
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 31 March 2010, 05:45:30 PM
id say once we have promotion wrapped up the younger lads like vuckic will get game time for experience probably more so if we have the title wrapped up too
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 8 April 2010, 10:51:56 AM
Great news...
08.04.2010
Slovenian Ace Returns For Youth Cup Semi
Vuckic to start from bench at Villa Park on Thursday night
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20100408/slovenian-ace-returns-for-youth-cup-semi_2240137_2017984
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Thursday 8 April 2010, 12:22:39 PM
can't see him starting, he's only played 20 mins of football this year! Good to give him maybe half an hour and hopefull have the lad in a position to start next week in the return leg.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Kasper on Thursday 8 April 2010, 12:26:02 PM
can't see him starting, he's only played 20 mins of football this year! Good to give him maybe half an hour and hopefull have the lad in a position to start next week in the return leg.

Thats probably why it says he's starting from the bench.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Thursday 8 April 2010, 01:22:05 PM
can't see him starting, he's only played 20 mins of football this year! Good to give him maybe half an hour and hopefull have the lad in a position to start next week in the return leg.

Thats probably why it says he's starting from the bench.

i never read the link!! lol
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BeloEmre on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:36:15 PM
Manchester Untied are chasing Newcastle wonderkid Haris Vučkić.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1267335/Manchester-United-eye-summer-swoop-Newcastle-starlet-Haris-Vu-ki.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0laIFF0ns
 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1267335/Manchester-United-eye-summer-swoop-Newcastle-starlet-Haris-Vu-ki.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0laIFF0ns)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: PCW1983 on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:37:48 PM
Loan him to Plymouth next year :-)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:38:57 PM
Manchester Untied are chasing Newcastle wonderkid Haris Vučkić.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1267335/Manchester-United-eye-summer-swoop-Newcastle-starlet-Haris-Vu-ki.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0laIFF0ns
 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1267335/Manchester-United-eye-summer-swoop-Newcastle-starlet-Haris-Vu-ki.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0laIFF0ns)
20m please
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skeletor on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:40:45 PM
That story makes no sense at all. They've been keeping an eye on his progress even though he's been injured pretty much all season?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:41:05 PM
They can f*** off.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cristov on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:41:40 PM
just some s*** to take the glory of our championship winning team
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:47:41 PM
He's a fan of Manchester United on Facebook!  :frantic:

Oh noes.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cristov on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:52:08 PM
weird that this story gets published as soon as we win the title though, really.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Phil K on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 02:06:55 AM
weird that this story gets published as soon as we win the title though, really.
Careful - saying stuff like that, no matter how true, will have umpteen labelling you paranoid. (Then several months later saying exactly the same thing)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Atticus on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 02:07:56 AM
weird that this story gets published as soon as we win the title though, really.
Careful - saying stuff like that, no matter how true, will have umpteen labelling you paranoid. (Then several months later saying exactly the same thing)

You are such a sage, man.

Even on a night like tonight you're still spinning the same f***ing record :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: bodson on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 01:43:29 PM
Swap him for Carrick ! :-)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Colocho on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 01:53:51 PM
He's a fan of Manchester United on Facebook!  :frantic:

Oh noes.

FM have his favoured club as United.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: junkhead on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 01:57:34 PM
He's a fan of Manchester United on Facebook!  :frantic:

Oh noes.

FM have his favoured club as United.

only one United here
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Greg on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 03:37:46 PM
He's a fan of Manchester United on Facebook!  :frantic:

Oh noes.

FM have his favoured club as United.

only one United here

And they play in black and white.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 04:45:10 PM
He's a fan of Manchester United on Facebook!  :frantic:

Oh noes.

FM have his favoured club as United.

only one United here

And they play in black and white.

This is all Greg's fault tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 08:01:17 PM
Scored a blinder tonight by all accounts

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20100420/latest-score-nufc-res-2-htfc-res-1_2240137_2030463
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: huss9 on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 08:34:55 PM
and added a tap in
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Greg on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 08:37:33 PM
He's a fan of Manchester United on Facebook!  :frantic:

Oh noes.

FM have his favoured club as United.

only one United here

And they play in black and white.

This is all Greg's fault tbh.

It was already set when we signed him tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 09:00:35 PM
I can't seem him getting any time on the pitch this season, or next. And I can't see him signing a new contract if he's had no first team football when contract talks do arise.

What's the solution with these youth players?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 09:02:37 PM
I can't seem him getting any time on the pitch this season, or next. And I can't see him signing a new contract if he's had no first team football when contract talks do arise.

What's the solution with these youth players?

Stop them spending long periods out injured?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Liam Liam Liam O on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 09:08:55 PM
He's a fan of Manchester United on Facebook!  :frantic:

Oh noes.

FM have his favoured club as United.

only one United here

And they play in black and white.

This is all Greg's fault tbh.

It was already set when we signed him tbh.

Well f***ing un-set it then. :angry:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 09:29:03 PM
I can't seem him getting any time on the pitch this season, or next. And I can't see him signing a new contract if he's had no first team football when contract talks do arise.

What's the solution with these youth players?

Stop them spending long periods out injured?

Fair point with Vuckic like. Still we find ourselves in a similar situation with Krul, and most likely Kadar (starting to show frustration).

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 09:30:45 PM
Hopefully we fill enough gaps in the summer to send them out on loan for a season, then they will at least get a full season under there belt and will be in a better position to challenge the year after (especially Krul).
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 10:29:32 PM
i'd have Vuckic straight into the 1st team squad for the start of next season,  i keep hearing people saying that we need to buy a creative attacking/midfielder,  well we don't we've got one.  I would love to see us use Haris the same way Moyes blooded and handled Rooney when he was breaking through.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: johnnypd on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 10:31:40 PM
i'd have Vuckic straight into the 1st team squad for the start of next season,  i keep hearing people saying that we need to buy a creative attacking/midfielder,  well we don't we've got one.  I would love to see us use Haris the same way Moyes blooded and handled Rooney when he was breaking through.

would be nice to see him get 15 mins at the QPR game, or maybe even Ipswich, when the result doesnt matter. do you think he's fit enough for a cameo?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 10:33:26 PM
i'd have Vuckic straight into the 1st team squad for the start of next season,  i keep hearing people saying that we need to buy a creative attacking/midfielder,  well we don't we've got one.  I would love to see us use Haris the same way Moyes blooded and handled Rooney when he was breaking through.

How highly rated by Hughton is he though?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 10:35:36 PM
His injury is a sickener, there would have been lots of oppurtunities to ease him into first team action in this division. We wont have that chance next season really.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Legacy on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 10:38:54 PM
Surely there has to be at least a chance that he'll make the bench in either one of our last 2 games?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Tuesday 20 April 2010, 10:40:59 PM
I think Hughton rates him highly,  he had him on the bench and involved with the first team at the start of this season,  like sewelly says his injury was a sickener as it left him on the sidelines for about 4-5 months. 
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: LooneyToonArmy on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 05:59:23 AM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

Not sure the Chronicle should be doing articles like today though as its just increases the hype and pressure on the lad for when he does break into the team!

so other than pace, he's in the  'Viana type' mould? I do think Viana for example would have been far more suited in Serie A as more teams over there play formations (3-4-1-2) that accommodate 'number 10' type players. Maybe if Viana had chosen one of the reputed Italian clubs over us his career might have taken a different direction.

Really hope Vuckic gets some game time in the next 2 games. Real big pity he has been injured these last few months as I was looking forward to seeing him blooded in.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 06:00:51 AM
Viana was also about as strong as a wet paper bag.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: toonlass on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 10:15:11 AM
Vuckic was head and shoulders the best player on the field last Friday. Different class tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 11:24:05 AM
Vuckic was head and shoulders the best player on the field last Friday. Different class tbh.

and that was at about 70% fit max
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 11:30:42 AM
You've seen him more than most, binnsy. Just how much of a prospect do you rate him as?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 11:42:40 AM
Think he should be on the bench for the last two games now, and providing we arent getting beat at the time looking at 20-30 mins in each. Would like to see him have some pitchtime alongside the first team players and a full house on Saturday. Be a big boost to him to play in front of a big atmosphere. We all know what Shola(or whoever else would come on) can do so why not let him have a look in?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 12:27:38 PM
from Skysports.com

Quote
20100421.
Vuckic flattered by Utd link
Slovenian youngster linked with move to Red Devils
By Jure Bohoric   Last updated: 21st April 2010   

Newcastle attacking midfielder Haris Vuckic admits he is flattered by interest from Manchester United.

The 17-year-old Slovenian is reportedly a target for Red Devils manager Sir Alex Ferguson, with the youngster regarded as a hot prospect for the future.

Vuckic moved to St James' Park in January last season and signed a three-and-a-half-year contract with the club.

He was linked with United before moving to the Magpies and also had a trial with AC Milan last year, but says he has had no contact of late.

"I heard the news about United wanting me, but if I'm honest, then I must confess I haven't had any contact with them. I only know what was written in the press," he told Ekipa.

"But of course I'm really flattered. It is a great honour to be associated with such a big and marvellous club.

"And yes, it is hard to say no to Alex Ferguson, who has a reputation of working very well with young players.

"But really I don't want to bother about such rumours. I'm just glad that I can play football again."

Vuckic has only made three appearances for Newcastle this term after being sidelined with knee and ankle injuries.

"I was out injured for six months and that was the hardest thing in my life," he added.

"Now I am enjoying myself again. And of course we are champions and promoted to the Premier League, so these are good days for Newcastle United.

"My only wish for now is that I could play against Ipswich Town. That would be really something after all the problems I've had."
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Kasper on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 12:30:17 PM
"My only wish for now is that I could play against Ipswich Town."

Mine too
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 12:33:49 PM
"My only wish for now is that I could play against Ipswich Town."

Mine too

:aww:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Colocho on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 01:59:25 PM
Is he a midfielder?

he's a typical "number 10".    he can't head the ball,  couldn't really tackle a dinner,  not too bothered about tracking back,  only uses his right foot to stand on!, is quick,strong and has a wand of a left peg and is absolute quality.

Not sure the Chronicle should be doing articles like today though as its just increases the hype and pressure on the lad for when he does break into the team!

so other than pace, he's in the  'Viana type' mould? I do think Viana for example would have been far more suited in Serie A as more teams over there play formations (3-4-1-2) that accommodate 'number 10' type players. Maybe if Viana had chosen one of the reputed Italian clubs over us his career might have taken a different direction.

Really hope Vuckic gets some game time in the next 2 games. Real big pity he has been injured these last few months as I was looking forward to seeing him blooded in.

Isn't Vuckic like 6"2, 13 stone?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: thedudeabides on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 05:16:32 PM
Can I be the first to call him The Ljubljana Viana?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 05:19:02 PM
Would be good for CH to include him on the bench for these last couple of games.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 07:31:24 PM
Wonder if he could get a sneaky call-up for Slovenia like Walcott with England in 06. The media attention might just help that.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ash on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 07:32:55 PM
Wonder if he could get a sneaky call-up for Slovenia like Walcott with England in 06. The media attention might just help that.

Hopefully not. It wouldn't do us any good at all.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 10:56:07 PM
CH should start Vuckic & say ""Glej, da igranje ingver otrok za Ipswich je Geordie na posojilo, da jih od Sunderland in je bila pravkar imenovan tam igralec Ipswich igralcev leta tja in je boljši od njega""

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Wednesday 21 April 2010, 11:23:26 PM
i wouldn't play him on Saturday but think i'd be tempted to give him a run out against QPR especially if he gets 90 mins under his belt in the reserve game next Tuesday.  Although its not his ideal position i'd play him on the left wing.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: LooneyToonArmy on Thursday 22 April 2010, 07:32:35 AM
Wonder if he could get a sneaky call-up for Slovenia like Walcott with England in 06. The media attention might just help that.

from what I've read, he still hasn't decided whether to play for Slovenia (despite playing youth levels for them and being born there) or the country of his parents, Bosnia. I'm sure a shock world cup call up would help him make his mind but it will not happen. Certainly Bosnia have some cracking players (Misimovic, Dzeko, Pjanic, Ibesivic etc) also.

Hope to see him at least come off the bench in the next game for a good 30 mins at least.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: beardsleymagic on Thursday 22 April 2010, 01:27:37 PM

From Ronnie.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2010/04/22/vuckic-playing-down-talk-of-world-cup-call-up-72703-26294529/ (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2010/04/22/vuckic-playing-down-talk-of-world-cup-call-up-72703-26294529/)

I have to admit as to not seeing much of him (bar the few minutes first team action). To anyone who as see a bit of him, is all the hype surrounding him warranted?

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: STM on Thursday 22 April 2010, 01:41:02 PM
Win-win IMO.

Either we have a lad with big potential on our books or we make a tidy profit from Man Utd. Fulham got 10m for Smalling, we should get the same for Vuckic, if not, f*** them.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Liam Liam Liam O on Thursday 22 April 2010, 01:47:32 PM
i'd have Vuckic straight into the 1st team squad for the start of next season,  i keep hearing people saying that we need to buy a creative attacking/midfielder,  well we don't we've got one.  I would love to see us use Haris the same way Moyes blooded and handled Rooney when he was breaking through.

How highly rated by Hughton is he though?

Not very, he's a young player.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: WashyGeordie on Thursday 22 April 2010, 03:55:46 PM
Win-win IMO.

Either we have a lad with big potential on our books or we make a tidy profit from Man Utd. Fulham got 10m for Smalling, we should get the same for Vuckic, if not, f*** them.

He's only 17 though, Vuckic, so it'd be just compensation wouldn't it?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 22 April 2010, 03:56:44 PM
Win-win IMO.

Either we have a lad with big potential on our books or we make a tidy profit from Man Utd. Fulham got 10m for Smalling, we should get the same for Vuckic, if not, f*** them.

He's only 17 though, Vuckic, so it'd be just compensation wouldn't it?

If he was out of contract, or hadn't signed a professional deal. Neither is the case here.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: lovejoy on Sunday 25 April 2010, 11:36:07 AM
been told by hughton that he will be a regular starter next season according to the Sunday sun.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 25 April 2010, 11:38:45 AM
been told by hughton that he will be a regular starter next season according to the Sunday sun.

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2010/04/25/erik-huseklepp-in-united-sights-79310-26311633/

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Meanwhile, as veteran Nicky Butt - a possible target for Ipswich - yesterday confirmed he will leave United at the end of the season, Newcastle boss Hughton has moved to head off interest in young pretender Haris Vuckic.

With Manchester United and AC Milan tracking the fit-again Slovenian teenager, Hughton has assured Vuckic that he will be a regular starter for Newcastle in the top flight next season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Unlucky Luque on Sunday 25 April 2010, 11:58:51 AM
 :kinnear:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Sunday 25 April 2010, 12:14:05 PM
http://www.onenewspage.com/news/Sports/20100423/10336375/Man-Utd-target-Vuckic-My-dream-is-to.htm

Haris Vuckic insists he wants to succeed at Newcastle United.

The Slovenia striker has spoken this week of fresh interest from Manchester United.

Vuckic told the Evening Chronicle: “I played against Peterborough in the Carling Cup earlier this season and it was a good experience – so was playing a couple of Championship games.

“Chris (Hughton) just said to play football.

“It is a big thrill to be at such a big club. Everybody is nice to me and I just want to work hard at this club and do well. It would be a dream to be a first-team player with Newcastle United. Next season everybody starts afresh in the first team.

“I will work hard in pre-season, and if you want to get into the team, you work as hard as you can. I must be prepared for that in pre-season.

“That’s my dream.”
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 25 April 2010, 12:36:03 PM
Love to see him on the bench and get some minutes under the belt, bit of fitness/strength training in the Summer will do him well. He's already a big lad, but you get the impression he's not aware of it as he often shys away from tackles or using any physical side of his game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: STM on Sunday 25 April 2010, 12:42:40 PM
Should be having some serious involvement in the friendlies. Could save us quite a few quid, if he can play his role next season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Sunday 25 April 2010, 12:49:22 PM
Hopefully he'll become a world class player one day while playing at our club. I don't want to see him getting sold for let's say 4 million to Man Utd and then becoming a great player for them. In the media it would be all about Sir Alex "finding that great player".

The same goes for the other young players like Krul and Kadar as well. They have to stay here. I'd rather see some "senior" players leave and us taking a risk on the young guns.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nordstrom on Sunday 25 April 2010, 01:30:08 PM
Hopefully he'll become a world class player one day while playing at our club. I don't want to see him getting sold for let's say 4 million to Man Utd and then becoming a great player for them. In the media it would be all about Sir Alex "finding that great player".

The same goes for the other young players like Krul and Kadar as well. They have to stay here. I'd rather see some "senior" players leave and us taking a risk on the young guns.
Definitely need to start playing first team football (including loans) next season. Next season in the reserves will make him want to leave. Maybe a Forster/Vuckic deal to Norwich?  O0
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 25 April 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Hopefully he'll become a world class player one day while playing at our club. I don't want to see him getting sold for let's say 4 million to Man Utd and then becoming a great player for them. In the media it would be all about Sir Alex "finding that great player".

The same goes for the other young players like Krul and Kadar as well. They have to stay here. I'd rather see some "senior" players leave and us taking a risk on the young guns.
Definitely need to start playing first team football (including loans) next season. Next season in the reserves will make him want to leave. Maybe a Forster/Vuckic deal to Norwich?  O0


I think that would be a good idea. Is Vuckic'position a position they would be looking to strengthen ?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TheGuv on Sunday 25 April 2010, 09:02:45 PM
Hopefully he'll become a world class player one day while playing at our club. I don't want to see him getting sold for let's say 4 million to Man Utd and then becoming a great player for them. In the media it would be all about Sir Alex "finding that great player".

The same goes for the other young players like Krul and Kadar as well. They have to stay here. I'd rather see some "senior" players leave and us taking a risk on the young guns.
Definitely need to start playing first team football (including loans) next season. Next season in the reserves will make him want to leave. Maybe a Forster/Vuckic deal to Norwich?  O0

How about Huddersfield instead?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Sunday 25 April 2010, 09:13:25 PM
Don't think Vuckic will be going anywhere on loan, he'll be in and around the first time, like he would of been this season, actually, he'd have been in the team this season if he hadn't got injured.  For people saying does Hughton rate him, yes he does.  At the beginning of this season he was part of the first team squad,  on bench a few games, started the Peterborough game then got crocked.  If he hadn't been involved with the first team then las week wouldn't have been his first appearance for the reserves this season, he'd have been playing for the reserves at the beginning of the season.

Regarding loans to Huddersfield, they would be an ideal team to send the likes of Inman, Newton, Airey, Tavernier, Dummett.  Think they could gain some great experience at a club like Huddersfield or a championship side like Doncaster.  Not sure i'd want any on season long loan but a 3 month loan would be good for them.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: GG on Sunday 25 April 2010, 09:17:24 PM
Would I be right in thinking that Vuckic is a similar sort of player to Henri Lansbury? Because we're going to have to replace the latter and I'm certain we couldn't find similar/better unless we utilise the loan market effectively...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Liam Liam Liam O on Monday 26 April 2010, 08:40:40 AM
Love to see him on the bench and get some minutes under the belt, bit of fitness/strength training in the Summer will do him well. He's already a big lad, but you get the impression he's not aware of it as he often shys away from tackles or using any physical side of his game.

Soft as s**** then?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cronky on Monday 26 April 2010, 08:59:25 AM
been told by hughton that he will be a regular starter next season according to the Sunday sun.

Going from one sub appearance in the league to regular starter is a bit of a jump.

I'd really like to see more of this player though, given what is said about his talent.

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 26 April 2010, 09:00:52 AM
He's going to be a god.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 26 April 2010, 12:22:22 PM
Love to see him on the bench and get some minutes under the belt, bit of fitness/strength training in the Summer will do him well. He's already a big lad, but you get the impression he's not aware of it as he often shys away from tackles or using any physical side of his game.

Soft as s**** then?

Pretty much, but he works hard to get into space and always wants the ball, just won't go and tackle to get it back.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Liam Liam Liam O on Monday 26 April 2010, 12:27:42 PM
Love to see him on the bench and get some minutes under the belt, bit of fitness/strength training in the Summer will do him well. He's already a big lad, but you get the impression he's not aware of it as he often shys away from tackles or using any physical side of his game.

Soft as s**** then?

Pretty much, but he works hard to get into space and always wants the ball, just won't go and tackle to get it back.

We don't want him featuring much next year then. :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 26 April 2010, 12:30:43 PM
Love to see him on the bench and get some minutes under the belt, bit of fitness/strength training in the Summer will do him well. He's already a big lad, but you get the impression he's not aware of it as he often shys away from tackles or using any physical side of his game.

Soft as s**** then?

Pretty much, but he works hard to get into space and always wants the ball, just won't go and tackle to get it back.

We don't want him featuring much next year then. :lol:

Hopefully they work on it during the Summer and it develops into his game, but I wouldn't count on it. However, I'd take that minus of his game for all the potential positives he'll bring. He's not being over rated at all when it comes to his vision and passing, possibly the best passing in the squad.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 26 April 2010, 12:55:34 PM
We should do what City did with Kasper Schmeichel, except not sell him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: The Enforcer on Monday 26 April 2010, 12:57:50 PM
Some of the passes he made with the outside of his boot in the semi final, were so direct and accurate, it was frightening.

Would love to see him feature.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 26 April 2010, 12:57:59 PM
Love to see him on the bench and get some minutes under the belt, bit of fitness/strength training in the Summer will do him well. He's already a big lad, but you get the impression he's not aware of it as he often shys away from tackles or using any physical side of his game.

Soft as s**** then?

Pretty much, but he works hard to get into space and always wants the ball, just won't go and tackle to get it back.

We don't want him featuring much next year then. :lol:

Hopefully they work on it during the Summer and it develops into his game, but I wouldn't count on it. However, I'd take that minus of his game for all the potential positives he'll bring. He's not being over rated at all when it comes to his vision and passing, possibly the best passing in the squad.
so exactly whats his best position? central midfield or playing off strikers?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BooBoo on Monday 26 April 2010, 01:01:04 PM
Really hope the lad makes it for us. Would be great to have wonderkid make his mark at Newcastle. Hasn't really been a player who has done that since Gazza.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 26 April 2010, 01:03:53 PM
If Vuckic is going to become one of the world's best, it's highly unlikely we'll ever see it here - for two reasons. A, recent history tells us we generally do a s**** job of finetuning quality talent. B, first sign of world class material he shows, the top sides will be after him. I'm pretty excited about the lad but the best thing we can do is keep a lid on him for now. Those sort of articles and throwing him straight into the first team will only attract interest - he won't be here five minutes. Assuming he is a brilliant talent, the best thing we can do is play it cool.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Monday 26 April 2010, 01:14:51 PM
He is a MUST keep player. we have not had a chance to see what he can do here yet, any thoughts of selling him is just crazy. IF he does turn out to be the player a lot seem to think he will be then lets hope he can help us get back to top flight so we can have a chance of keeping him long term.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: STM on Monday 26 April 2010, 01:15:58 PM
There was a day when we could hope to keep hold of good young players. Sadly, i feel now we are a "selling club".
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 26 April 2010, 01:20:48 PM
It's not that we're a selling club; there's no evidence of that at all. Simple fact is, we're not as good as the best teams in the world - by an astronimcal amount - and if they come sniffing around, he'll get his head turned. It's not exactly an indicment on us or the lad himself. It's just what happens in modern football.

What's more depressing is that we're no longer amongst even the 'second' tier of sides that can attract established, quality young players with a reputation. Like Viana or Rooney.

But like i say, there's no real evidence of us being a selling club.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: LooneyToonArmy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 12:59:53 PM
Hughton: Hands off Toon starlet Haris Vuckic

NEWCASTLE UNITED boss Chris Hughton today revealed that wonderkid Haris Vuckic is “going nowhere” to dampen the hopes of Manchester United and Chelsea.

Chelsea scout Pop Robson was present at United’s reserve team clash with Rotherham United last night as the Stamford Bridge club stepped up their interest in the young Slovenian.

However, with Vuckic contracted until 2011 with United, Hughton sees him as a big part of his future plans at St James’ Park.

Vuckic has only made a handful of appearances at first-team level this season, with his campaign also dented by ankle and knee injuries.

But his rapid development behind the scenes at the club’s Benton base has left the backroom team delighted and enthusiastic about his future.

Hughton told the Chronicle: “To the contrary of what is being read or said at the moment, I can say that Haris is not going anywhere.

“Irrespective of anything that has been in the media, I can say now that the reason we have him under the contract he has is for the right reasons.

“He’s rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future.

“You get used to speculation when talking about good players, but he’s a Newcastle player and will be for a long time.

“We’re aware of everything that is going on.

“But he is a player who likes it at the club and is well thought of here.

“The fact is he’s a good young player who has been injured and he is really enjoying coming back and playing for us again.”

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:22:34 PM
things could get hairy if he is only contracted till 2011.

.com has him contracted till 2012tbc.  wiki also has him till summer 2012.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:24:17 PM
It's not that we're a selling club; there's no evidence of that at all. Simple fact is, we're not as good as the best teams in the world - by an astronimcal amount - and if they come sniffing around, he'll get his head turned. It's not exactly an indicment on us or the lad himself. It's just what happens in modern football.

What's more depressing is that we're no longer amongst even the 'second' tier of sides that can attract established, quality young players with a reputation. Like Viana or Rooney.

But like i say, there's no real evidence of us being a selling club.

Well said, we're not a 'selling club', whatever that means, we just need to face up to our current position in the football hierarchy.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:25:27 PM
given a choice of believing .com or lee ryder i'd go with .com being right.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:27:15 PM
given a choice of believing .com or lee ryder i'd go with .com being right.
the 'tbc' is the concern
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:29:45 PM
given a choice of believing .com or lee ryder i'd go with .com being right.
the 'tbc' is the concern

good point,  well he came early last season iirc so can't imagine him not signing anything smaller than a 3 year deal so i would say that would be 2012.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:34:06 PM
given a choice of believing .com or lee ryder i'd go with .com being right.
the 'tbc' is the concern
good point,  well he came early last season iirc so can't imagine him not signing anything smaller than a 3 year deal so i would say that would be 2012.
wiki has him arriving january 2009 signing a three and a half year deal.


(also strangely 'reports' had him recently having a trial at ac milan ?)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: merlin on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:39:10 PM
If Vuckic is only contracted even to 2012 and he continues to progress, the odds are that we will never see him at his best in a B & W shirt.

Think Gazza, Beardsley, Waddle - all went and did their best business for other clubs where they won trophies. If Man U or Chelsea really want this player and we only have him tied down for 2 years my bet is on him being sold for around 5m in a year's time because he will know full well that they want him and won't sign another contract ; the club will then have to take the best offer they can get.

The only way I see this altering is if either ;
1.The club is bought by a very rich ambitious owner as with Man C

2. Ashley suddenly decides to try to make the club a top outfit, but even then, he hasn't got the mega-funds to compete with the Chelseas,Man Us and Man Cs of this world.

We may not like it but, as with all but about 3 clubs in the Prem, we ARE a selling club if we haven't got players on long contracts. That's the way it is now.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:46:22 PM
If Vuckic is only contracted even to 2012 and he continues to progress, the odds are that we will never see him at his best in a B & W shirt.

Think Gazza, Beardsley, Waddle - all went and did their best business for other clubs where they won trophies. If Man U or Chelsea really want this player and we only have him tied down for 2 years my bet is on him being sold for around 5m in a year's time because he will know full well that they want him and won't sign another contract ; the club will then have to take the best offer they can get.

The only way I see this altering is if either ;
1.The club is bought by a very rich ambitious owner as with Man C

2. Ashley suddenly decides to try to make the club a top outfit, but even then, he hasn't got the mega-funds to compete with the Chelseas,Man Us and Man Cs of this world.

We may not like it but, as with all but about 3 clubs in the Prem, we ARE a selling club if we haven't got players on long contracts. That's the way it is now.
there is a 3rd option.....

we do OK next season, the finances are sorted and we look to grow, he's only 18 1/2 by then and agrees to a new contract being happy here and knowing he probably wouldn't get as much pitch time at the barce's of this world. (all assuming he looks to be fulfilling his potential). even then i suppose it's just postponing things.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: STM on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:47:55 PM
Am i the only one who thinks that we are over-hyping him a touch?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: palnese on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:48:58 PM
Am i the only one who thinks that we are over-hyping him a touch?

Nope :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:49:30 PM
Am i the only one who thinks that we are over-hyping him a touch?
no.

i'd like to see more of him to find out though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: STM on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 01:51:45 PM
It's not that i doubt he's got potential but talking about being "gutted" if signed for Chelsea or Man Utd is a bit strong.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 02:05:49 PM
If Vuckic is only contracted even to 2012 and he continues to progress, the odds are that we will never see him at his best in a B & W shirt.

Think Gazza, Beardsley, Waddle - all went and did their best business for other clubs where they won trophies. If Man U or Chelsea really want this player and we only have him tied down for 2 years my bet is on him being sold for around 5m in a year's time because he will know full well that they want him and won't sign another contract ; the club will then have to take the best offer they can get.

The only way I see this altering is if either ;
1.The club is bought by a very rich ambitious owner as with Man C

2. Ashley suddenly decides to try to make the club a top outfit, but even then, he hasn't got the mega-funds to compete with the Chelseas,Man Us and Man Cs of this world.

We may not like it but, as with all but about 3 clubs in the Prem, we ARE a selling club if we haven't got players on long contracts. That's the way it is now.
there is a 3rd option.....

we do OK next season, the finances are sorted and we look to grow, he's only 18 1/2 by then and agrees to a new contract being happy here and knowing he probably wouldn't get as much pitch time at the barce's of this world. (all assuming he looks to be fulfilling his potential). even then i suppose it's just postponing things.


i actually can see him signing a new deal with us before the end of the year, more likely in the summer tying him down till 2014-15 time.  I will however stick to my post i put on here weeks ago that i'll be amazed if he's a NUFC player when he's 21.

regarding the over hyping,  yes he's a cracking player, yes he could be very very good and yes Lee Ryder in the Chronicle is over hyping this kid big style.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 02:25:56 PM
Vuckic won't be sold according to Hughton:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6121203,00.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 02:29:41 PM
Man Ure and Chelski.. does my fkn head in FIFA need to brig in some rules to stop this kind of s***, players under a certain age should have to see out a full contract with their club.. other players should only leave if they have 1 year or less elft on their current contract.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: STM on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 02:43:32 PM
Man Ure and Chelski.. does my fkn head in FIFA need to brig in some rules to stop this kind of s***, players under a certain age should have to see out a full contract with their club.. other players should only leave if they have 1 year or less elft on their current contract.

In fairness, i think alot of it is lazy journalism. I bet there are plenty of other clubs interested in him but have not made the papers.

Man Utd and Chelsea are just easy links.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Unlucky Luque on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 02:48:42 PM
Vuckic won't be sold according to Hughton:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6121203,00.html

"He's rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future," explained the manager.

 :smug:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 02:52:09 PM
contracted to 2012 according to skysports.com they say he signed 3.5 year deal when he signed on
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_4803772,00.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 03:24:15 PM
Man Ure and Chelski.. does my fkn head in FIFA need to brig in some rules to stop this kind of s***, players under a certain age should have to see out a full contract with their club.. other players should only leave if they have 1 year or less elft on their current contract.

Using that theory Skirge we probably wouldn't have him now as he'd still be in Slovenia and we wouldn't have got Kadar and Krul.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 03:34:12 PM
.co.uk says Jonas has gone back to Argentina for a break, so it seems like Hughton isn't too bothered about the QPR match. if thats so, vuckic really should get 90 minutes.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 03:35:41 PM
.co.uk says Jonas has gone back to Argentina for a break, so it seems like Hughton isn't too bothered about the QPR match. if thats so, vuckic really should get 90 minutes.

Hughtons already said that Krul is the only youngster who will play a role in a QPR game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 03:39:54 PM
.co.uk says Jonas has gone back to Argentina for a break, so it seems like Hughton isn't too bothered about the QPR match. if thats so, vuckic really should get 90 minutes.

Hughtons already said that Krul is the only youngster who will play a role in a QPR game.

Ah thats a shame. Its a wasted opportunity.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 03:49:53 PM
Am i the only one who thinks that we are over-hyping him a touch?

It depends if the Chelsea/Man U links are true. I'd trust them to spot a top youngster and if they like him he's probably pretty good.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 03:58:37 PM
Am i the only one who thinks that we are over-hyping him a touch?

It depends if the Chelsea/Man U links are true. I'd trust them to spot a top youngster and if they like him he's probably pretty good.

I remember reading that alot of the senior squad were very impressed with him when he began training with the first team. Found it -

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/09/10/haris-vuckic-set-to-go-after-wowing-in-training-72703-24654777/
Quote
“But as soon as he came into the club there was something about him.

“He caught the eye of people like Michael Owen and Mark Viduka last season in training, they were really impressed.

“I remember when he first walked on to the training field, people thought he was a 21-year-old. But he was only 16!"
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Colocho on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 04:35:12 PM
Vuckic won't be sold according to Hughton:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6121203,00.html

"He's rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future," explained the manager.

 :smug:

Good man.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: UV on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:01:29 PM
Vuckic won't be sold according to Hughton:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6121203,00.html

"He's rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future," explained the manager.

 :smug:

Good man.

"He is the last player that Newcastle United want to sell, and I'm talking about the owner and myself," insisted the United chief.

"James Milner won't be leaving here, I'm sure of that."
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:03:30 PM
Vuckic won't be sold according to Hughton:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6121203,00.html

"He's rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future," explained the manager.

 :smug:

Good man.

"He is the last player that Newcastle United want to sell, and I'm talking about the owner and myself," insisted the United chief.

"James Milner won't be leaving here, I'm sure of that."

You would hope Ashley and that would have learnt their lesson from that one like, England international and all.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:04:54 PM
So how good is this kid? Messi good or Shola good?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:05:27 PM
Vuckic won't be sold according to Hughton:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6121203,00.html

"He's rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future," explained the manager.

 :smug:

Good man.

"He is the last player that Newcastle United want to sell, and I'm talking about the owner and myself," insisted the United chief.

"James Milner won't be leaving here, I'm sure of that."

Here's hoping we get a £12m offer for Vuckic..
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:13:51 PM
Vuckic won't be sold according to Hughton:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6121203,00.html

"He's rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future," explained the manager.

 :smug:

Good man.

"He is the last player that Newcastle United want to sell, and I'm talking about the owner and myself," insisted the United chief.

"James Milner won't be leaving here, I'm sure of that."

Or another example as Joe Kinnear said: "I've bent over backwards to keep Shay, and I have told the powers that be that he has got to stay".

It doesn't matter what the manager says. As long as Ashley is in charge we can never, never be sure that we will keep that player, or this player. Like KK once said over Michael Owen at a time (almost) everyone on here would have liked to keep him: "Nobody in football is untouchable" or something like that.

The next transfer window will be very important for the connection between Ashley and the fans. If we built to the squad we have now and won't sell any players who are important - and most importantly who are important to the manager - it could be a very good transfer window for us (again after January) and we could finally start to trust and believe in Ashley and Derek.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:18:15 PM
Given and Milner both wanted to leave, badly. If players want to go and the price is right, f*** off.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:40:28 PM
Given and Milner both wanted to leave, badly. If players want to go and the price is right, f*** off.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself.

You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:57:40 PM
Given and Milner both wanted to leave, badly. If players want to go and the price is right, f*** off.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself.

You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one.

Especially when you haven't even played well since signing the original deal.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Coubury on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:57:47 PM
Has anyone actually seen him play?

Whats he like?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 05:59:17 PM
Has anyone actually seen him play?

About four people in this thread by all accounts.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 06:02:22 PM
Has anyone actually seen him play?

Ronaldo's flatmate has.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 06:52:44 PM
Has anyone actually seen him play?

Ronaldo's flatmate has.
pretty sure ronaldo saw his debut in slovenia.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 08:38:37 PM
It was strange reading the Chron today saying Pop Robson (Chelsea scout) was there to watch Harris. He is at nearly every reserve & U18 game with about another half dozen scouts.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 08:40:27 PM
It was strange reading the Chron today saying Pop Robson (Chelsea scout) was there to watch Harris. He is at nearly every reserve & U18 game with about another half dozen scouts.

You can always tell who they are, as they're the ones wearing sunglasses and always talking on their mobile. Or at least this one guy who always stands next to me is.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 11:09:22 PM
Good ol Nixon:

Quote
Chelsea, Liverpool and Man United to fight it out for Newcastle starlet - Exclusive

Newcastle are facing a fight to keep super Slovenia kid Haris Vuckic - with Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool ready to make bids.

The 17-year-old attacker was watched by top representatives of all three clubs as he sparkled for the Toon reserves in midweek.

Vuckic, who has already made one substitute's appearance for the Toon first team, may even start for the Geordies this weekend as they try to convince him he should stay with them.

However, Sir Alex Ferguson has already shown a keen interest on him, and now both Frank Arnesen and Kenny Dalglish - hired to find the best young talent for both Chelsea and Liverpool - are on the case as well.
Click here to find out more!

Newcastle have not yet pinned down Vuckic on a long-term contract and an offer of around £1.5million may steal him away.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Chelsea-Liverpool-and-Manchester-United-to-fight-it-out-for-Newcastle-starlet-Exclusive-article408649.html


Scouting report in the Daily Mirror, I am not sure who writes these

Quote
Snapping up young talent has become all the rage this season with Manchester United splashing out big money for Fulham youngster Chris Smalling and Liverpool doing their best to hoover up all the top youth players, including Raheem Sterling from QPR and now Jonjo Shelvey from Charlton.

The latest teenage prodigy to attract the interest of all the usual suspects including United, Liverpool and Chelsea, is Haris Vuckic.

But who is this next 'next big thing'? Here's your essential guide to Slovenia's best and brightest:

MirrorFootball Scouting Report - Haris Vuckic
Born: August 21, 1992 (aged 17), Ljubljana, Slovenia
Height: 6ft 2in
Position: Midfielder / second striker

Club Stats
2008–2009: NK Domzale - five appearances
2009-: Newcastle United - two appearances

Five things you need to know:
1) Vuckic has been destined for great things since he was first taken on by his first professional club in his native Slovenia, NK Domzale. The club were so desperate to get him into their first team that they gave him his debut in a match in August 2008 when he was just 15... and promptly earned themselves a fine from the Slovenian FA for fielding an underage player.

2) After turning 16 he made just four more appearances for the club before Newcastle scouts spotted him and tied up a three-and-a-half year deal to bring him to England in January last year. Since then he has been a regular in the reserves and Under 18s sides, and has made the first team twice - once in the League as a sub against Leicester and once in the League Cup against Huddersfield.

3) He proved his worth to the Magpies Under 18 team last summer when he picked up both the top goalscorer and player-of-the-tournament awards as the team won a youth competition in Bosnia, with Vuckic netting five goals.

4) Former Newcastle United youth coach Richard Money reckons Vuckic is close to being ready for first team football. Speaking last May he said: "He's got everything really; great size, good athlete, change of pace and he's very clever and creative with the ball. I think that given the right environment and the right development then he's got a big future ahead of him."

5) Rated as one of Slovenia's best young prospects he is already a fixture on the international youth scene as well, having played for their Under 16, Under 17 and Under 19 teams, and he is currently skipper of the Under 19s.


http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-spy/Liverpool-Manchester-United-and-Chelsea-transfer-target-Haris-Vuckic-stats-biog-and-key-things-you-need-to-know-article408703.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 11:24:51 PM
It'll be interesting to see if he plays for the reserves tomorrow,  if he does then i don't think he'll feature at QPR,  can't see a lad who's been out injured for almost 6 months playing 3 games in 6 days especially as Tuesday was the first 90 mins he'd played since his injury.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 11:30:20 PM
Binnsy from todays Chron "But Hughton told the Chronicle today: “Tim will certainly play a part.

“It is an opportunity for him, but I think out of all the youngsters he will be the only one."
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 11:36:58 PM
Good ol Nixon:

Quote
Chelsea, Liverpool and Man United to fight it out for Newcastle starlet - Exclusive

Newcastle are facing a fight to keep super Slovenia kid Haris Vuckic - with Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool ready to make bids.

The 17-year-old attacker was watched by top representatives of all three clubs as he sparkled for the Toon reserves in midweek.

Vuckic, who has already made one substitute's appearance for the Toon first team, may even start for the Geordies this weekend as they try to convince him he should stay with them.

However, Sir Alex Ferguson has already shown a keen interest on him, and now both Frank Arnesen and Kenny Dalglish - hired to find the best young talent for both Chelsea and Liverpool - are on the case as well.
Click here to find out more!

Newcastle have not yet pinned down Vuckic on a long-term contract and an offer of around £1.5million may steal him away.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Chelsea-Liverpool-and-Manchester-United-to-fight-it-out-for-Newcastle-starlet-Exclusive-article408649.html


Scouting report in the Daily Mirror, I am not sure who writes these

Quote
Snapping up young talent has become all the rage this season with Manchester United splashing out big money for Fulham youngster Chris Smalling and Liverpool doing their best to hoover up all the top youth players, including Raheem Sterling from QPR and now Jonjo Shelvey from Charlton.

The latest teenage prodigy to attract the interest of all the usual suspects including United, Liverpool and Chelsea, is Haris Vuckic.

But who is this next 'next big thing'? Here's your essential guide to Slovenia's best and brightest:

MirrorFootball Scouting Report - Haris Vuckic
Born: August 21, 1992 (aged 17), Ljubljana, Slovenia
Height: 6ft 2in
Position: Midfielder / second striker

Club Stats
2008–2009: NK Domzale - five appearances
2009-: Newcastle United - two appearances

Five things you need to know:
1) Vuckic has been destined for great things since he was first taken on by his first professional club in his native Slovenia, NK Domzale. The club were so desperate to get him into their first team that they gave him his debut in a match in August 2008 when he was just 15... and promptly earned themselves a fine from the Slovenian FA for fielding an underage player.

2) After turning 16 he made just four more appearances for the club before Newcastle scouts spotted him and tied up a three-and-a-half year deal to bring him to England in January last year. Since then he has been a regular in the reserves and Under 18s sides, and has made the first team twice - once in the League as a sub against Leicester and once in the League Cup against Huddersfield.

3) He proved his worth to the Magpies Under 18 team last summer when he picked up both the top goalscorer and player-of-the-tournament awards as the team won a youth competition in Bosnia, with Vuckic netting five goals.

4) Former Newcastle United youth coach Richard Money reckons Vuckic is close to being ready for first team football. Speaking last May he said: "He's got everything really; great size, good athlete, change of pace and he's very clever and creative with the ball. I think that given the right environment and the right development then he's got a big future ahead of him."

5) Rated as one of Slovenia's best young prospects he is already a fixture on the international youth scene as well, having played for their Under 16, Under 17 and Under 19 teams, and he is currently skipper of the Under 19s.


http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-spy/Liverpool-Manchester-United-and-Chelsea-transfer-target-Haris-Vuckic-stats-biog-and-key-things-you-need-to-know-article408703.html
yes thats right we'd sell one of the best young talents around for 1.5m when he has 2 years left that makes sense.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 11:43:09 PM
Good ol Nixon:

Quote
Chelsea, Liverpool and Man United to fight it out for Newcastle starlet - Exclusive

Newcastle are facing a fight to keep super Slovenia kid Haris Vuckic - with Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool ready to make bids.

The 17-year-old attacker was watched by top representatives of all three clubs as he sparkled for the Toon reserves in midweek.

Vuckic, who has already made one substitute's appearance for the Toon first team, may even start for the Geordies this weekend as they try to convince him he should stay with them.

However, Sir Alex Ferguson has already shown a keen interest on him, and now both Frank Arnesen and Kenny Dalglish - hired to find the best young talent for both Chelsea and Liverpool - are on the case as well.
Click here to find out more!

Newcastle have not yet pinned down Vuckic on a long-term contract and an offer of around £1.5million may steal him away.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Chelsea-Liverpool-and-Manchester-United-to-fight-it-out-for-Newcastle-starlet-Exclusive-article408649.html


Scouting report in the Daily Mirror, I am not sure who writes these

Quote
Snapping up young talent has become all the rage this season with Manchester United splashing out big money for Fulham youngster Chris Smalling and Liverpool doing their best to hoover up all the top youth players, including Raheem Sterling from QPR and now Jonjo Shelvey from Charlton.

The latest teenage prodigy to attract the interest of all the usual suspects including United, Liverpool and Chelsea, is Haris Vuckic.

But who is this next 'next big thing'? Here's your essential guide to Slovenia's best and brightest:

MirrorFootball Scouting Report - Haris Vuckic
Born: August 21, 1992 (aged 17), Ljubljana, Slovenia
Height: 6ft 2in
Position: Midfielder / second striker

Club Stats
2008–2009: NK Domzale - five appearances
2009-: Newcastle United - two appearances

Five things you need to know:
1) Vuckic has been destined for great things since he was first taken on by his first professional club in his native Slovenia, NK Domzale. The club were so desperate to get him into their first team that they gave him his debut in a match in August 2008 when he was just 15... and promptly earned themselves a fine from the Slovenian FA for fielding an underage player.

2) After turning 16 he made just four more appearances for the club before Newcastle scouts spotted him and tied up a three-and-a-half year deal to bring him to England in January last year. Since then he has been a regular in the reserves and Under 18s sides, and has made the first team twice - once in the League as a sub against Leicester and once in the League Cup against Huddersfield.

3) He proved his worth to the Magpies Under 18 team last summer when he picked up both the top goalscorer and player-of-the-tournament awards as the team won a youth competition in Bosnia, with Vuckic netting five goals.

4) Former Newcastle United youth coach Richard Money reckons Vuckic is close to being ready for first team football. Speaking last May he said: "He's got everything really; great size, good athlete, change of pace and he's very clever and creative with the ball. I think that given the right environment and the right development then he's got a big future ahead of him."

5) Rated as one of Slovenia's best young prospects he is already a fixture on the international youth scene as well, having played for their Under 16, Under 17 and Under 19 teams, and he is currently skipper of the Under 19s.


http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-spy/Liverpool-Manchester-United-and-Chelsea-transfer-target-Haris-Vuckic-stats-biog-and-key-things-you-need-to-know-article408703.html
yes thats right we'd sell one of the best young talents around for 1.5m when he has 2 years left that makes sense.
unless it's only one year he has left..........has anyone any proof beyond wiki and .com ?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 11:48:42 PM
Yee stay here Maddy while you work out if you watched Inter or AC tonight & here is link from the time

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4803772,00.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 28 April 2010, 11:53:05 PM
Yee stay here Maddy while you work out if you watched Inter or AC tonight & here is link from the time

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4803772,00.html
weight of information is now tilting towards 2012
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: UV on Thursday 29 April 2010, 12:07:28 AM
Given and Milner both wanted to leave, badly. If players want to go and the price is right, f*** off.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself.

You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one.

Especially when you haven't even played well since signing the original deal.

What a load of bollocks. We were receiving large bids for him and he'd obviously get a pay rise if he moved, so he would be stupid not to ask for a pay rise for staying. It's not like he refused to play or anything either, he was MotM in his last game for us after which Keegan said

Quote
"He’s got a three-year contract with us - I don’t want to talk about losing James Milner – he’s absolutely top-notch. He’s getting better and better with every game. He was probably playing out of position but if I asked him to play right-back he would.

“When you’ve got his enthusiasm and his willingness to work hard and play football he would play anywhere, to be fair.

“I definitely think he’s got I think he’s been too long in the England Under-21s. He’s one that Mr Capello should have a serious look at.”

and from the PFA who act as his agent (what a money grabbing b****** eh):

Quote
"The facts are that James' transfer request was actually handed in on Wednesday, August 20, at which point it was asked by Newcastle to keep the matter private.

"The request was given because the player was looking for an improvement on his contract that reflected his development and his value to the club.

"To clarify the situation, James did sign a contract 12 months ago. However, this agreement was reached with the club nearly 12 months previous at the point at which Newcastle had agreed to sell James to Aston Villa on transfer deadline day 2006 before cancelling the agreement at the 11th hour.

"Since then he has played over 80 games for Newcastle. All James wanted was a deal that reflected his development and that was in line with Newcastle's transfer valuation of him."

Obviously desperate to get away.

Let's hope Vuckic never wants a payrise, or expresses the slightest interest in another club otherwise he'll be welcome to f*** off too.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Teasy on Thursday 29 April 2010, 12:09:54 AM
unless it's only one year he has left..........has anyone any proof beyond wiki and .com ?

The Mirror, but that's not much proof since they're the same mongs who think we'd sell him for £1.5m.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Thursday 29 April 2010, 12:10:38 AM
Given and Milner both wanted to leave, badly. If players want to go and the price is right, f*** off.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself.

You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one.

Especially when you haven't even played well since signing the original deal.

What a load of bollocks. We were receiving large bids for him and he'd obviously get a pay rise if he moved, so he would be stupid not to ask for a pay rise for staying. It's not like he refused to play or anything either, he was MotM in his last game for us after which Keegan said

Quote
"He’s got a three-year contract with us - I don’t want to talk about losing James Milner – he’s absolutely top-notch. He’s getting better and better with every game. He was probably playing out of position but if I asked him to play right-back he would.

“When you’ve got his enthusiasm and his willingness to work hard and play football he would play anywhere, to be fair.

“I definitely think he’s got I think he’s been too long in the England Under-21s. He’s one that Mr Capello should have a serious look at.”

and from the PFA who act as his agent (what a money grabbing b****** eh):

Quote
"The facts are that James' transfer request was actually handed in on Wednesday, August 20, at which point it was asked by Newcastle to keep the matter private.

"The request was given because the player was looking for an improvement on his contract that reflected his development and his value to the club.

"To clarify the situation, James did sign a contract 12 months ago. However, this agreement was reached with the club nearly 12 months previous at the point at which Newcastle had agreed to sell James to Aston Villa on transfer deadline day 2006 before cancelling the agreement at the 11th hour.

"Since then he has played over 80 games for Newcastle. All James wanted was a deal that reflected his development and that was in line with Newcastle's transfer valuation of him."

Obviously desperate to get away.

Let's hope Vuckic never wants a payrise, or expresses the slightest interest in another club otherwise he'll be welcome to f*** off too.
or at lest if he does he conducts himself the way milner did.

contrast that to given.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Teasy on Thursday 29 April 2010, 12:14:02 AM
Given and Milner both wanted to leave, badly. If players want to go and the price is right, f*** off.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself.

You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one.

Especially when you haven't even played well since signing the original deal.

What a load of bollocks. We were receiving large bids for him and he'd obviously get a pay rise if he moved, so he would be stupid not to ask for a pay rise for staying. It's not like he refused to play or anything either, he was MotM in his last game for us after which Keegan said

He signed a 4 year contract the year before and played no more then average for that year.  Obviously he saw an opportunity to up his wage when Villa came in.  But just because he can get away with it doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it.  Do you really think a player should get a pay rise whenever another club comes in for them?, no matter how they've played or when they've signed there last contract?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Schmocky on Thursday 29 April 2010, 01:35:49 AM
Has anyone actually seen him play?

Ronaldo's flatmate has.
pretty sure ronaldo saw his debut in slovenia.

He was there the first time he kicked a ball man.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: QBG on Thursday 29 April 2010, 04:00:26 AM
Quote
Vuckic has already publicly declared his willingness to simply concentrate on playing for the Magpies, but while United are desperate to play down the hype, he will be propelled into the shop window during the World Cup if, as mooted in his homeland, he is taken to the South Africa finals with Slovenia, who are in England’s group this summer, in a Theo Walcott-style move by boss Matjaž Kek.

I sincerely hope that doesn't happen!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: nobby_solano on Thursday 29 April 2010, 08:59:50 AM
we should be getting him to sign a contract til 2015 just incase that does happen, at least we'd stand a chance getting top dollar for him
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cronky on Thursday 29 April 2010, 09:12:47 AM
I suspect it's the salary that's going to be the problem with getting him to sign a new contract. He might well feel he's better off sticking with us for the next few seasons and playing in the first team, rather than moving to Man U or Chelsea and getting stuck in the reserves or on the bench. But if they offer to double his money - that's hard to resist.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Chris_R on Thursday 29 April 2010, 09:44:32 AM
Surely we can afford to offer decent money to an 18 year old. It's not as if he'll be asking for £100k/year which is out of our league, he'll be wanting something a little more affordable than that and if we value him highly enough, then there's no reason a deal can't be reached that's suitable to both parties.

Never seen anything of him though, could be utter dog s**** for all I know...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 29 April 2010, 09:53:33 AM
Just how overated is this guy? :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mattoon on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:07:35 AM
I'm sure we'll all get to see how well he plays against QPR and then in the World Cup, so either he'll get found out or we'll see what he's really capable of and we'll either have a complete diamond of a player or a HUGE transfer fee. Even if he's only half the player Rooney was at his age, that's still gotta be worth at least £10m.

Still I think the most prudent thing for him to do in this situation is to ride it out with us where he's more likely to get pitch time and progress in his ability. You can guarantee at the likes of Man Yoo or Chelski he'll be lucky to even get a seat on the bench and would probably spend a fair few seasons at the best reserve team level.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:21:09 AM
Just how overated is this guy? :lol:

Underrated tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:21:10 AM
Just how overated is this guy? :lol:

Depends on what you've heard. I'd say he's like the old fashioned European #10/withdrawn striker. Has good passing and vision for a youngster, can score some sweet goals too. Just don't ask him to tackle/defend. As others have said we'll not see the best of him at Newcastle, and he'll probably end up going to Italy or Spain and becoming a class act.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:24:25 AM
Just how overated is this guy? :lol:

Depends on what you've heard. I'd say he's like the old fashioned European #10/withdrawn striker. Has good passing and vision for a youngster, can score some sweet goals too. Just don't ask him to tackle/defend. As others have said we'll not see the best of him at Newcastle, and he'll probably end up going to Italy or Spain and becoming a class act.

 i'm sure the guy's got talent, but just reading the news above "Going to be a key player for Newcastle next season" "Chased by Milan, Chelsea and United"  "Going to the World Cup" makes you think he's out top goalscorer or something.. defintley want him to succeed but i don't understand why he's so highley rated even though he barley played any first team football, looked a bit nervious when he got those few minutes with the big boys at the start of the season so i'm trying not to get my hopes up.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: The Enforcer on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:28:08 AM
I agree with Kenobi, I'd liken him to an Elano type of player. Which is suprising, given his build.

As for whether he is being overrated, he clearly has talent, but who knows at this age how far he can take it. I think it's a certainty he will be a good player and that's something we should look forward to, not just expect him to be a world beater.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:37:01 AM
Just how overated is this guy? :lol:

Depends on what you've heard. I'd say he's like the old fashioned European #10/withdrawn striker. Has good passing and vision for a youngster, can score some sweet goals too. Just don't ask him to tackle/defend. As others have said we'll not see the best of him at Newcastle, and he'll probably end up going to Italy or Spain and becoming a class act.

 i'm sure the guy's got talent, but just reading the news above "Going to be a key player for Newcastle next season" "Chased by Milan, Chelsea and United"  "Going to the World Cup" makes you think he's out top goalscorer or something.. defintley want him to succeed but i don't understand why he's so highley rated even though he barley played any first team football, looked a bit nervious when he got those few minutes with the big boys at the start of the season so i'm trying not to get my hopes up.

Well he trials with AC before we signed him, and Man U were interested at the same time too. So its not as if its current reputation thats caught their eye, they were aware of him last year (and possibly before). As for going to the World Cup its Slovenia - can you name two Slovenia International players without looking on Wikipedia? He's highly thought of in his home country, so its not too surprising they're thinking about taking him to the WC. He did well in the U19 Championships in the Summer.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: geordienorway on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:39:47 AM
Just how overated is this guy? :lol:

Underrated tbh.

Are you basing this on binnsy's reports or have you seen him a lot?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:42:17 AM
Quote
Vuckic has already publicly declared his willingness to simply concentrate on playing for the Magpies, but while United are desperate to play down the hype, he will be propelled into the shop window during the World Cup if, as mooted in his homeland, he is taken to the South Africa finals with Slovenia, who are in England’s group this summer, in a Theo Walcott-style move by boss Matjaž Kek.

I sincerely hope that doesn't happen!

Why? Surely only going to be beneficial for the player?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 29 April 2010, 10:43:28 AM
One game against Liverpool reseves was all I needed, he's the white Pele.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: UV on Thursday 29 April 2010, 12:28:27 PM
Given and Milner both wanted to leave, badly. If players want to go and the price is right, f*** off.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself.

You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one.

Especially when you haven't even played well since signing the original deal.

What a load of bollocks. We were receiving large bids for him and he'd obviously get a pay rise if he moved, so he would be stupid not to ask for a pay rise for staying. It's not like he refused to play or anything either, he was MotM in his last game for us after which Keegan said

He signed a 4 year contract the year before and played no more then average for that year.  Obviously he saw an opportunity to up his wage when Villa came in.  But just because he can get away with it doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it.  Do you really think a player should get a pay rise whenever another club comes in for them?, no matter how they've played or when they've signed there last contract?

It's about keeping the player happy (within reason of course). No point having a disgruntled player who knows he could be earning lots more elsewhere, especially when there's no footballing reason to stay either (ie chance of winning something), even with players like Milner who is one of the few more professional youngsters around. If you want to sell off any players who develop and know they can get better wages elsewhere so ask for a payrise or a move then you'll never progress as a club, it will just be back to square one every season. Even if you use the transfer fee to buy someone else instead, chances are you'll have to pay them more than the player you sold was on anyway.

It's very usual with young players to renegotiate their contracts every year or two. The club wants to protect it's interest by getting the player on a long contract, but you can't go giving the player wages commensurate with what their potential ability might be at the end of the contract, so if they develop they are obviously going to want an improvement in their contract before it is up. In Milner's case, it was a year old contract but on terms he'd agreed 2 years previously, I beleive he has said he signed it on the proviso that his contract would be reviewed during the year but that no-one at the club would even talk to him about it.

As for whether he had developed or not, I think I'll stick with O'Neill, Benitez, Moyes, Keegan and my own opinion over yours and Ronaldo's  :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: 80 on Thursday 29 April 2010, 12:48:11 PM
It's very usual with young players to renegotiate their contracts every year or two. The club wants to protect it's interest by getting the player on a long contract, but you can't go giving the player wages commensurate with what their potential ability might be at the end of the contract, so if they develop they are obviously going to want an improvement in their contract before it is up. In Milner's case, it was a year old contract but on terms he'd agreed 2 years previously, I beleive he has said he signed it on the proviso that his contract would be reviewed during the year but that no-one at the club would even talk to him about it.

And just to re-assert, it shouldn't be forgotten how shoddily he was treated over the original Villa move which prompted that new contract being signed. By all accounts, it was a very cheap contract by any normal footballing standards, too.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: manorpark on Thursday 29 April 2010, 04:02:31 PM
It was strange reading the Chron today saying Pop Robson (Chelsea scout) was there to watch Harris. He is at nearly every reserve & U18 game with about another half dozen scouts.

Crikey, Pop Robson!!!

Great player, scored a lot of goals, and some really GREAT goals for us.

Him and Wyn helped us win (no pun intended!) the Fairs Cup.

Was disappointed when he had a bust up with the club (over their lack of ambition) and was transferred to West Ham.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: QBG on Thursday 29 April 2010, 07:09:08 PM
Quote
Vuckic has already publicly declared his willingness to simply concentrate on playing for the Magpies, but while United are desperate to play down the hype, he will be propelled into the shop window during the World Cup if, as mooted in his homeland, he is taken to the South Africa finals with Slovenia, who are in England’s group this summer, in a Theo Walcott-style move by boss Matjaž Kek.

I sincerely hope that doesn't happen!

Why? Surely only going to be beneficial for the player?

I'm sure it would be, but if he has any sort of impact and we'll have everyone sniffing around.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Friday 30 April 2010, 10:44:43 AM
It was strange reading the Chron today saying Pop Robson (Chelsea scout) was there to watch Harris. He is at nearly every reserve & U18 game with about another half dozen scouts.

Crikey, Pop Robson!!!

Great player, scored a lot of goals, and some really GREAT goals for us.

Him and Wyn helped us win (no pun intended!) the Fairs Cup.

Was disappointed when he had a bust up with the club (over their lack of ambition) and was transferred to West Ham.
west ham, never the most ambitious of clubs and then sunderland who at the time showed even less ambition than us.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Friday 30 April 2010, 10:47:12 AM
a lot of people are saying he's a  european style no.10. just how lazy is he when the opposition have the ball and has he got enough to compensate for it ?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 30 April 2010, 10:57:03 AM
If you play your football on the deck, chances are most of your goals will have started from him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beezeri on Friday 30 April 2010, 11:10:49 AM
Surely we can afford to offer decent money to an 18 year old. It's not as if he'll be asking for £100k/year which is out of our league, he'll be wanting something a little more affordable than that and if we value him highly enough, then there's no reason a deal can't be reached that's suitable to both parties.

Never seen anything of him though, could be utter dog s**** for all I know...

Didn't know it's that bad....sack Ashley!!!! :blush:

Anyone aware if Hughton is going to give LuaLua a go as he's been recalled from the loan for the remaining 2 games?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Fenham Mag on Friday 30 April 2010, 03:53:40 PM
He's in the squad  :frantic:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: palnese on Friday 30 April 2010, 03:54:39 PM
He's in the squad  :frantic:

Gerrin!

Should have been room for Inman as well.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 30 April 2010, 06:45:51 PM
I hope that he gets a start, he's good enough.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Friday 30 April 2010, 06:56:33 PM
Hughton's comments the other day suggest otherwise (about the start). Agree with you though.

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 30 April 2010, 07:36:16 PM
We'll see shades of Hugo Viana on the last day against WBA
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 30 April 2010, 07:59:11 PM
He's in the squad  :frantic:

I honestly thought that was the World Cup Squad for his home country.

Anyway hope he starts, we've got nothing to lose.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 30 April 2010, 07:59:53 PM
Except points. :angry: :rant: :angry:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: broonalegeordie on Friday 30 April 2010, 08:07:44 PM
and my bloody bets
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 30 April 2010, 08:07:57 PM
Except points. :angry: :rant: :angry:

Does playing Vuckic mean we'll automatically drop points that we wouldn't have dropped if he didn't get a game?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 30 April 2010, 08:08:53 PM
Are you taking the p*ss? :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 30 April 2010, 08:09:31 PM
Are you taking the p*ss? :lol:

Are you?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 30 April 2010, 08:12:46 PM
Just a tad like, i'm a bit fond of Harris.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JJ7 on Monday 3 May 2010, 01:47:12 PM
Thought he had a few good touches when he was on and was getting himself into good positions. Would have liked to have seen him on for longer. Looking forward to pre-season for him to be given more of a run out.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: cubaricho on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 10:11:57 PM
Doesn't make the Slovenian squad for the WC.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 10:14:56 PM
Doesn't make the Slovenian squad for the WC.

Good news, not for him obviously like.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Stu on Thursday 8 July 2010, 12:55:00 PM
Going to be given a much bigger role (injury permitting) this season.

:thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: junkhead on Thursday 8 July 2010, 12:56:33 PM
Going to be given a much bigger role (injury permitting) this season.

:thup:

says you?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 8 July 2010, 02:03:48 PM
Going to be given a much bigger role (injury permitting) this season.

:thup:

Do you think? To me it seems like he'll be seen as too young to be thrown straight in, especially if we're struggling.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 8 July 2010, 02:05:26 PM
Might depend on how he looks in pre-season. If he gets gametime in friendlies and looks very good he might be trusted to step up more.

I don't think he'll be playing regularly, but I hope he plays the odd game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 06:30:52 PM
Might depend on how he looks in pre-season. If he gets gametime in friendlies and looks very good he might be trusted to step up more.

I don't think he'll be playing regularly, but I hope he plays the odd game.
don't think the lad will get a look in unless we have an injury crisis - too much focus and pressure on hughton, he doesn't come across as the type who'd drop a plodder like smith or nolan to give the lad a chance to prove himself

unless he goes out in a league cup game and runs riot or something, we'll not hear from the lad imo...probably f*** off somewhere the season after and do well
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Saturday 10 July 2010, 06:37:18 PM
Might depend on how he looks in pre-season. If he gets gametime in friendlies and looks very good he might be trusted to step up more.

I don't think he'll be playing regularly, but I hope he plays the odd game.
don't think the lad will get a look in unless we have an injury crisis - too much focus and pressure on hughton, he doesn't come across as the type who'd drop a plodder like smith or nolan to give the lad a chance to prove himself

unless he goes out in a league cup game and runs riot or something, we'll not hear from the lad imo...probably f*** off somewhere the season after and do well


Apart from when he dropped Smith to accomodate the much better, less fancied Danny Guthrie?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 06:40:30 PM
Might depend on how he looks in pre-season. If he gets gametime in friendlies and looks very good he might be trusted to step up more.

I don't think he'll be playing regularly, but I hope he plays the odd game.
don't think the lad will get a look in unless we have an injury crisis - too much focus and pressure on hughton, he doesn't come across as the type who'd drop a plodder like smith or nolan to give the lad a chance to prove himself

unless he goes out in a league cup game and runs riot or something, we'll not hear from the lad imo...probably f*** off somewhere the season after and do well


Apart from when he dropped Smith to accomodate the much better, less fancied Danny Guthrie?
very, very different dude...we're on a hiding to nothing this coming season and hughton will know it - guthrie is/was not a gamble in the championshit but vuckic would be a massive one in the PL
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Saturday 10 July 2010, 06:47:46 PM
Might depend on how he looks in pre-season. If he gets gametime in friendlies and looks very good he might be trusted to step up more.

I don't think he'll be playing regularly, but I hope he plays the odd game.
don't think the lad will get a look in unless we have an injury crisis - too much focus and pressure on hughton, he doesn't come across as the type who'd drop a plodder like smith or nolan to give the lad a chance to prove himself

unless he goes out in a league cup game and runs riot or something, we'll not hear from the lad imo...probably f*** off somewhere the season after and do well


Apart from when he dropped Smith to accomodate the much better, less fancied Danny Guthrie?
very, very different dude...we're on a hiding to nothing this coming season and hughton will know it - guthrie is/was not a gamble in the championshit but vuckic would be a massive one in the PL

That goes without saying but few if any managers have the luxury of being able to throw youngsters in at the deep end so I don't understand why you're insinuating it's a Hughton issue.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 06:55:50 PM
Might depend on how he looks in pre-season. If he gets gametime in friendlies and looks very good he might be trusted to step up more.

I don't think he'll be playing regularly, but I hope he plays the odd game.
don't think the lad will get a look in unless we have an injury crisis - too much focus and pressure on hughton, he doesn't come across as the type who'd drop a plodder like smith or nolan to give the lad a chance to prove himself

unless he goes out in a league cup game and runs riot or something, we'll not hear from the lad imo...probably f*** off somewhere the season after and do well


Apart from when he dropped Smith to accomodate the much better, less fancied Danny Guthrie?
very, very different dude...we're on a hiding to nothing this coming season and hughton will know it - guthrie is/was not a gamble in the championshit but vuckic would be a massive one in the PL

That goes without saying but few if any managers have the luxury of being able to throw youngsters in at the deep end so I don't understand why you're insinuating it's a Hughton issue.
It's a Hughton issue 'cause (a) he's our f***ing manager :lol: and (b) primarily because everyone under the f***ing sun knows we have a horrible, horrible, slow and decrepit midfield that will get raped next season so any manager worthy of the name would be looking for a solution to that, we potentially have one in this lad and i'm saying Hughton won't have the bottle to drop the senior players to try it out.

Doesn't matter two f***s what any other manager does or doesn't do.  However didn't Coyle at Bolton rely on throwing Wilshere in now that I think about it?  Examples do exist, managers just need to have the balls.

I wake up in the night with cold sweats thinking about what PL midfields are going to do to Smith and Nolan next season man. 
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 10 July 2010, 10:53:44 PM
If Smith and Nolan both start our first 3 games, I will put a very large amount of money on us going down. And i'm not talking about a few hundred.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 10:59:10 PM
If Smith and Nolan both start our first 3 games, I will put a very large amount of money on us going down. And i'm not talking about a few hundred.

Could be quite funny in the end. Everybody will be celebrating that we've stayed up and you will have lost tons of money.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:04:00 PM
I really don't think Smith will be anything more than back up.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:06:35 PM
If Smith and Nolan both start our first 3 games, I will put a very large amount of money on us going down. And i'm not talking about a few hundred.

Could be quite funny in the end. Everybody will be celebrating that we've stayed up and you will have lost tons of money.  :lol:

The forum would collapse for hours.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:08:58 PM
If Smith and Nolan both start our first 3 games, I will put a very large amount of money on us going down. And i'm not talking about a few hundred.

Could be quite funny in the end. Everybody will be celebrating that we've stayed up and you will have lost tons of money.  :lol:

The forum would collapse for hours.

Seriously, it would be quite silly to bet on the club you support to go down, wouldn't it? You probably would end up quite hoping for relegation.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:19:46 PM
Absolutely not. Did the same 2 years back and went down to Villa praying that we'd stay up.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:20:51 PM
Absolutely not. Did the same 2 years back and went down to Villa praying that we'd stay up.

Fair enough, then.  O0
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:22:50 PM
Thing is, we know more about our club and our players than the bookies. Whenever you have the edge, use it.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: je85 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:27:28 PM
Maybe so, personally I still couldn't bring myself to do that though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ChrisMcQuillan on Sunday 11 July 2010, 05:43:32 PM
I don't think betting against your team makes you any less of a fan.

I bet on Whittingham to score first in the Cardiff home game this season.  We were 4-0 in about twenty minutes, and Whittingham looked about as useful as a large tub of nutella on the pitch.  I was still happy.  I'd rather lose money and win than lose and win money.   Winning a bit of money does soften the blow, though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Sunday 11 July 2010, 05:49:50 PM
I don't think betting against your team makes you any less of a fan.

I bet on Whittingham to score first in the Cardiff home game this season.  We were 4-0 in about twenty minutes, and Whittingham looked about as useful as a large tub of nutella on the pitch.  I was still happy.  I'd rather lose money and win than lose and win money.   Winning a bit of money does soften the blow, though.

Agree with that in bold.

Although, the thing isn't to bet against your team, the thing is to bet really big against your team.

As Ronaldo said he would "put a very large amount of money on us going down" and that's what I think I could never do.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Monday 19 July 2010, 05:59:20 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8835813.stm

:clap2:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Monday 19 July 2010, 06:02:54 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8835813.stm

:clap2:

 :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 25 July 2010, 06:50:38 PM
so to anyone who's seen the games so far how's this lad shaping up in the friendlies, he showing any signs he might dislodge one of our midfield fatties?

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Friday 3 September 2010, 09:43:43 PM
Scored tonight for Slovenia U21s. :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: nufcmichael on Friday 3 September 2010, 09:57:44 PM
Scored tonight for Slovenia U21s. :thup:

Naaa was Alen Vuckic, 20 year old central defender.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Friday 3 September 2010, 09:58:57 PM
Scored tonight for Slovenia U21s. :thup:

Naaa was Alen Vuckic, 20 year old central defender.

Seems the Slovenian FA have it wrong then.

http://www.nzs.si/novice/2010-09-03-Reprezentanti-iztrzili-tocko
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: cubaricho on Friday 3 September 2010, 10:00:10 PM
Scored tonight for Slovenia U21s. :thup:

Naaa was Alen Vuckic, 20 year old central defender.

Was definitely wor Haris.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: joeyt on Friday 3 September 2010, 10:01:31 PM
Livescore says it was his brother. UEFA say it was Haris. I have more faith in UEFA getting it right
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 3 September 2010, 10:14:55 PM
Nice that he seems to be starring for each respective age grouping at an earlier age than you'd expect.

Captained the U19s at just 16, scoring for the U21s at 18. He's ahead of the game all the way.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: oldtype on Friday 3 September 2010, 10:25:43 PM
If Smith and Nolan both start our first 3 games, I will put a very large amount of money on us going down. And i'm not talking about a few hundred.

 :whistle:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: gdm on Friday 3 September 2010, 10:29:28 PM
Haha :D
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 3 September 2010, 10:45:13 PM
Wasn't he considerd for their first team for the World Cup? how come he's on the bench for the U-21 now?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 3 September 2010, 11:18:18 PM
Wasn't he considerd for their first team for the World Cup? how come he's on the bench for the U-21 now?

We had Mata, Javi Martínez, Capel and Bojan  in our U21 lineup this week - all of them with senior caps already and some of them present at the 2010 WC. Even Busquets was rumored (and volunteered) to play for them since these are important games with European/Olympic qualification at stake.

EDIT: Although I just checked and Slovenia have already lost any chance of qualification, so ignore me.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 3 September 2010, 11:21:52 PM
If Smith and Nolan both start our first 3 games, I will put a very large amount of money on us going down. And i'm not talking about a few hundred.

 :whistle:

If we hadn't signed Ben Arfa and Tiote, I would have.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Friday 3 September 2010, 11:26:37 PM
:ronaldo:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 3 September 2010, 11:31:22 PM
What I was looking for is an indication that both would consistently be starting.

I will bet you or anyone £1000 that we'll drop if Smith and Nolan start more than a combined 55 league games.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Friday 3 September 2010, 11:31:22 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Unbelievable! on Saturday 4 September 2010, 12:03:25 AM
:ronaldo:
:spit:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David28 on Saturday 4 September 2010, 08:03:44 AM
What I was looking for is an indication that both would consistently be starting.

I will bet you or anyone £1000 that we'll drop if Smith and Nolan start more than a combined 55 league games.


Wouldn't be a bad bet for those who'd bet against you tbh.

Taking into consideration that Nolan is the captain and will play 35-38 games (if there's no injury). Leaving a rest of 20 for Smith and he already has 3 of them around the corner.  :pow:

Knowing my luck, we would stay up comfortably but they would only make it to 54 games and Ronaldo would be totaly right in that case as he's in every case.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Shayno on Saturday 4 September 2010, 11:28:20 AM
What I was looking for is an indication that both would consistently be starting.

I will bet you or anyone £1000 that we'll drop if Smith and Nolan start more than a combined 55 league games.

I would so take that if you and your word had any credibility at all.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Gorilla on Saturday 4 September 2010, 12:30:02 PM
What I was looking for is an indication that both would consistently be starting.

I will bet you or anyone £1000 that we'll drop if Smith and Nolan start more than a combined 55 league games.

I would so take that if you and your word had any credibility at all.

Should make it realistic say 50 quid, ask Dave or one of the admin if you can both pay into the sites paypal account, then they release the funds to the winner and takes say 10% for the site.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: alpal78 on Saturday 4 September 2010, 01:10:16 PM
What I was looking for is an indication that both would consistently be starting.

I will bet you or anyone £1000 that we'll drop if Smith and Nolan start more than a combined 55 league games.

I would so take that if you and your word had any credibility at all.

Should make it realistic say 50 quid, ask Dave or one of the admin if you can both pay into the sites paypal account, then they release the funds to the winner and takes say 10% for the site.


I like the way you think. Come on now guys put your money where your mouth is!

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 4 September 2010, 04:00:42 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 4 September 2010, 04:15:43 PM
What I was looking for is an indication that both would consistently be starting.

I will bet you or anyone £1000 that we'll drop if Smith and Nolan start more than a combined 55 league games.

I would so take that if you and your word had any credibility at all.

Well, I just admitted that I hadn't placed the bet when it would have been easy to fib. You won't take it because you have no bollocks.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Willow on Thursday 23 September 2010, 01:40:56 AM
How did mr Vuckic do tonight? was he centre-midfield?

lasted the full 90 :)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: cubaricho on Thursday 23 September 2010, 01:41:45 AM
How did mr Vuckic do tonight? was he centre-midfield?

lasted the full 90 :)

Thought had a few good touches/passes and closed down in the middle well but when he wasn't near the ball he looked a bit lazy.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mr Logic on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:18:16 AM
Also quite a few wayward passes and often looked a bit out of his depth. Some nice plays mixed in. All in all rather mediocre really though and nothing to write home about. Don't know if there was a fear factor, playing at Stamford Bridge against Chelsea etc. Would effect different people diffferent ways.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Stephen927 on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:41:48 AM
Usually plays a bit more advanced than central midfield though, right?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:47:00 AM
He was decent, he didn't play much with our first team before and it showed as he was nervious at the start, grew in confidence from then on and looked much better, think he has some potential in him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Roger Kint on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:54:02 AM
No more out of place than Smith, Loven and Jonas for the most part imo, some good/some poor overall not too bad last night.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Colocho on Thursday 23 September 2010, 12:03:14 PM
How did mr Vuckic do tonight? was he centre-midfield?

lasted the full 90 :)

Thought had a few good touches/passes and closed down in the middle well but when he wasn't near the ball he looked a bit lazy.

Agree with this. He looked ok, but out of position. Played a great bit of football with Gutierrez to set up Ranger's miss, but otherwise he was fairly anonymous.

Would like to see him in a more advanced role next time, tbh he should have moved up behind Shola and Lovenkrands more.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Thursday 23 September 2010, 12:06:30 PM
Decent performance from him but people were expecting fireworks...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: arnonel on Thursday 23 September 2010, 12:15:20 PM
he looks like a big lad. taller/stronger than colo from photos i saw, but i guess thats not saying much
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: alijmitchell on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:05:11 PM
Just watched the highlights (again), forgot how much he was involved in the 1st goal, and how close he was to slotting in from Shola's shot come cross thing. He was by no means the best out there, but for a 17 year old at Stamford Bridge against some very good players, he looked comfortable. At the very least, with him, Ranger and Ferguson playing well, we have youngsters who look like they can break into the first team, and not only that, have the potential to become very good players. Which is rare for us.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:07:09 PM
The hassling of the first player and robbery of the second for the Shola chance kicked away near the line was f***ing class, exactly the sort of thing you want to see. He wasn't outstanding per se but it was a promising performance. For me, better than he played against Accrington and against far better players.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: womblemaster on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:16:28 PM
he did look really tall in one the pics he over 6ft ?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 23 September 2010, 09:18:19 PM
6ft 1 isn't he?

I think people are a little too over excited about the fella tbh, saw a few saying they felt a bit let down by his performance  :undecided: far too much expectation over a 17 year old.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 23 September 2010, 10:00:58 PM
TIME TIME TIME
He needs lots of it
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 23 September 2010, 10:01:32 PM
To be fair to him, he was up against some extremely seasoned performers in Ramires, Zhrikov and Benayoun. I've not seen anything of him really but i get the kind of feeling that he's a player the team needs to be based around. It's only been 2 games and yeah he wasn't great against Accrington but we played hoofball and bypassed the midfield 90% of the time, how can a creative midfielder really dominate in such a scrappy game? He looks to have good technique, vision and a very strong physique, there's a lot of potential there.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 23 September 2010, 10:13:25 PM
6ft 1 isn't he?

I think people are a little too over excited about the fella tbh, saw a few saying they felt a bit let down by his performance  :undecided: far too much expectation over a 17 year old.

6ft 3, and he's 18, your stats are from last year.

No reason to be let down by his performance, he was ok and didn't do much wrong, was actually fighting for the ball and chasing Chelsea players down which i didn't know he had in him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 23 September 2010, 10:20:05 PM
Think it's been said before, but he's definitely a #10 kind of player rather than an allround midfielder in 4-4-2.

Specialist players like that tend to struggle when they're played out of position, even world class allround attacking midfielders like Sneijder can struggle if they're shoehorned into a deep midfield role or made to play out wide.

Gotta remember aswell he's just gone 18, and was playing alongside Smith against a midfield costing around £40 million. Think we should reserve judgement just yet, especially when you consider just how much Carroll came on in just a 6 month spell 3 years on from where Vuckic is in his career.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: johnnypd on Thursday 23 September 2010, 10:27:09 PM
The hassling of the first player and robbery of the second for the Shola chance kicked away near the line was f***ing class, exactly the sort of thing you want to see. He wasn't outstanding per se but it was a promising performance. For me, better than he played against Accrington and against far better players.

that reminded me of Bowyer a bit, setting up shola at liverpool.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Friday 24 September 2010, 12:09:25 AM
He seems like the kind of player that will be awesome going forward BUT not do a great deal when the opposition has the ball

A luxury player like Riquelme if you like
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Stu on Friday 24 September 2010, 01:31:30 AM
Not at all, if Wednesday was anything to go by.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: timeEd32 on Friday 24 September 2010, 02:18:49 AM
Didn't people say he was fast? I mentioned this in the match thread, but the times I've seen him it looks like he's running in mud. The body parts are moving, but he's just not going anywhere.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: johnnypd on Friday 24 September 2010, 04:38:57 AM
don't think anyone has said he is fast. he's certainly big and strong but from the sounds of what binnsy etc have said he'll need to learn to use his physical attributes more.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Friday 24 September 2010, 04:46:18 AM
He seemed fairly quick when he won the ball and advanced into the Chelsea box
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: cubaricho on Friday 24 September 2010, 05:44:00 AM
Very much don't agree with Geordie Ahmed.

I thought he displayed a great desire to get the ball when it was in his general vicinity.  He closed down really well with a lot of very quick movements and went in pretty hard even when he shouldn't have.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 24 September 2010, 07:47:19 AM
Gotta remember aswell he's just gone 18, and was playing alongside Smith against a midfield costing around £40 million. Think we should reserve judgement just yet, especially when you consider just how much Carroll came on in just a 6 month spell 3 years on from where Vuckic is in his career.
:clap:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cunning_Linguist on Friday 24 September 2010, 09:26:26 AM
Gotta remember aswell he's just gone 18, and was playing alongside Smith against a midfield costing around £40 million. Think we should reserve judgement just yet, especially when you consider just how much Carroll came on in just a 6 month spell 3 years on from where Vuckic is in his career.
:clap:
+1

He reminds me of Cristiano Ronaldo
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Friday 24 September 2010, 10:39:03 AM
Very much don't agree with Geordie Ahmed.

I thought he displayed a great desire to get the ball when it was in his general vicinity.  He closed down really well with a lot of very quick movements and went in pretty hard even when he shouldn't have.

Spot on. Considering he is a 'creative' player I thought he acquitted himself superbly. Worked hard when we didn't have, always showing for the ball when we did.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Friday 24 September 2010, 10:18:29 PM
Not at all, if Wednesday was anything to go by.
Very much don't agree with Geordie Ahmed.

I thought he displayed a great desire to get the ball when it was in his general vicinity.  He closed down really well with a lot of very quick movements and went in pretty hard even when he shouldn't have.

I didnt watch the match so cant comment on that

Though I watched the reserves against Chelsea and he didnt offer much support to Newton - though he was playing out of position at RM

I do like the look of him and he seems to have some quality about him - reckon it might be worth sending him out on loan for a little while
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 2 October 2010, 12:07:18 AM
I don't think this was posted, but he's recieved his first international call-up.   :clap:

http://fourfourtwo.com/news/euro2012/64591/default.aspx
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01102010/2/soccer-slovenia-squad-euro-2012-qualifiers.html

Will be up against Edmundsson when they play the Faroes.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 2 October 2010, 12:42:51 AM
Awesome, really happy for him, hope it helps him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: QBG on Saturday 2 October 2010, 12:54:21 AM
Want to see more of him. Looked good against Chelsea, should definitely play in the Arsenal cup game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: koenji on Monday 4 October 2010, 01:49:26 AM
might see Vuckic get more chances now that HBA is out......
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: olliemort on Monday 4 October 2010, 01:53:39 AM
No he wont..just means Nolan will 1000 percent defo be starting every game now.To be honest from the few matches I have seen Vuckic I dont think hes ready.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: koenji on Monday 4 October 2010, 04:47:45 AM


......anyways, noticed he was called up to the Slovenia senior squad the other day for the Euro qualifiers

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01102010/2/soccer-slovenia-squad-euro-2012-qualifiers.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tachikoma on Monday 4 October 2010, 05:14:16 AM
Whether he's ready or not I can't see how he could contribute less to the game than Nolan does.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 4 October 2010, 12:58:41 PM


......anyways, noticed he was called up to the Slovenia senior squad the other day for the Euro qualifiers

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01102010/2/soccer-slovenia-squad-euro-2012-qualifiers.html

Just seen that on nufc.com. Cracking stuff.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 4 October 2010, 01:00:31 PM
I posted his selection 3 days ago, ahead of the game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Greg on Monday 4 October 2010, 01:01:18 PM
I posted his selection 3 days ago, ahead of the game.

It is amazing how many people don't read posts, even just a few above.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: DarkSchneider on Monday 4 October 2010, 01:12:10 PM
I don't think he'll get his chance to play for Slovenia in this term. We have many midfielders. Now that Ilicic and Bacinovic are playing regularly for Palermo and doing well, there won't be any space left for Haris. And we also have Koren, Radosavljevic, Birsa, Kirm all ahead of him.

But if we're winning maybe he'll get his chance. We'll see. I wouldn't mind if he replaced Koren. Maybe we could try him as SS, because in attack we're lacking quality at the moment.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 4 October 2010, 01:14:22 PM
I don't think he'll get his chance to play for Slovenia in this term. We have many midfielders. Now that Ilicic and Bacinovic are playing regularly for Palermo and doing well, there won't be any space left for Haris. And we also have Koren, Radosavljevic, Birsa, Kirm all ahead of him.

But if we're winning maybe he'll get his chance. We'll see. I wouldn't mind if he replaced Koren. Maybe we could try him as SS, because in attack we're lacking quality at the moment.

The cynicist in me thought straight away he'd only been called in to cap-tie him in the Faroes game. Put an end to the talks of Bosnia nabbing him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: DarkSchneider on Monday 4 October 2010, 01:29:49 PM
Probably true...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Monday 4 October 2010, 08:44:23 PM
It is amazing how many people don't read posts, even just a few above.

Does my head in as well

I see Haris got picked for the Slovenia squad:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01102010/2/soccer-slovenia-squad-euro-2012-qualifiers.html
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: joeyt on Monday 4 October 2010, 08:44:44 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Flip on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:00:14 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: cubaricho on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:09:32 PM
Could be a chance for him to step up now that Ben Arfa is out of the squad, especially considering that we seem to want to stick with the 4-5-1 type formation we've been using.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:12:25 PM
Could be a chance for him to step up now that Ben Arfa is out of the squad, especially considering that we seem to want to stick with the 4-5-1 type formation we've been using.

We will go with: Lil Wayne Barton Tiote Jonas
                                                   Big Kev           
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:14:03 PM
I'd rather Vuckic played than Nolan tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:20:56 PM
Realistically that is not going to happen.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:21:50 PM
Realistically that is not going to happen.

Of course not.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: cubaricho on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:22:25 PM
Realistically that is not going to happen.

Of course not.

Agreed, but it would be nice to see someone with a pair of legs in that position.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:23:07 PM
Realistically that is not going to happen.

Of course not.

Agreed, but it would be nice to see someone with a pair of legs in that position.

That rules out Nolan & BHA atm then.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:23:07 PM
Realistically that is not going to happen.

Of course not.

Agreed, but it would be nice to see someone with a pair of legs in that position.

Exactly. Vuckic is going to be more valuable in the long term than Nolan, and it's hardly that much of a downgrade atm.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:26:02 PM
It's a real shame to see Hughton's obvious management ability being totally negated by loyalty to a s*** footballer like Kevin Nolan.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ElDiablo on Monday 4 October 2010, 09:30:54 PM
Needs to be given game time here and there when we can afford it, starting from now. If Nolan gets injured (heh) we've literally nobody who can play that role and he needs to be ready. Just look at how much Wilshere has come on in the last 6 months just by Wenger showing a bit of faith in him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 4 October 2010, 10:22:04 PM
He sent him out on loan, mate. That's why he's developed.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ElDiablo on Tuesday 5 October 2010, 01:54:29 AM
He made 14 appearances for Bolton, it obviously helped but the confidence he's gained since Wenger started playing him is evident, he's playing much better now than he did at the start of the season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: colinmk on Thursday 28 October 2010, 04:31:59 PM
From what I saw yesterday he certainly has a lot of potential. Strong, looks to get into the right positions and showed the type of class he has with that almost amazing pass in the second half. Really looks off the pace required for this level though and he will only get that with regular football, I would try and loan him to a championship club in Jan and he could could come back ready to realistically fight for the first team next season. Same goes with Ranger and Kadar although we kind of need Kadar for cover.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Thursday 28 October 2010, 04:35:45 PM
Times like this where we could do with not having a paperthin squad so Haris, Ranger and Kadar can all go and find their feet in the Champ and get some proper exposure to regular football. Coaching/scouting staff will be able to judge them properly then and if worse comes to worse they'll have been in the shop window for 6months.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Thursday 28 October 2010, 05:23:39 PM
Thought he looked decent last night. Looked quite quick (I thought he looked quite slow and sluggish at Accrington) and played some good balls. Like Ranger, really needs to be loaned out.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: henke on Thursday 28 October 2010, 06:45:42 PM
I thought he looked out of sorts for the first 80 minutes last night, had the touch of a donkey at times. But there was a couple of flashes in the last ten minutes that made me sit up. One was a pass to carroll (i think), bent with with outside of his left foot. Nobody else in our squad, after barfa, could have made or even considered that pass. It was sublime.

So yeah, the kids talented and needs minutes.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: greydos on Thursday 28 October 2010, 06:51:22 PM
I thought he looked out of sorts for the first 80 minutes last night, had the touch of a donkey at times. But there was a couple of flashes in the last ten minutes that made me sit up. One was a pass to carroll (i think), bent with with outside of his left foot. Nobody else in our squad, after barfa, could have made or even considered that pass. It was sublime.

So yeah, the kids talented and needs minutes.

I didn't see the game so can't say i've seen the pass you're talking about. But it sounds similar to the pass barton played to ameobi against wham before receiving it back and getting the assist for carroll.

In my eyes JB's as good a passer as anyone we've got on our books
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Thursday 28 October 2010, 08:11:15 PM
tricky one regarding sending him on loan,  i think i would only consider sending him to Carlisle or Hartlepool,  he's a young lad who's just settling into a new country and city,  the club look after him really well with his house virtually on the doorstep of the training ground.  While playing on loan regularly would know doubt be beneficial i don't think sending him off to the other end of the country would.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: colinmk on Thursday 28 October 2010, 08:48:07 PM
tricky one regarding sending him on loan,  i think i would only consider sending him to Carlisle or Hartlepool,  he's a young lad who's just settling into a new country and city,  the club look after him really well with his house virtually on the doorstep of the training ground.  While playing on loan regularly would know doubt be beneficial i don't think sending him off to the other end of the country would.

Aye that's a fair point. It's a shame we are in the position we are in because we just can't afford to give him successive run outs from the bench so as you say it is a tricky one.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Thursday 28 October 2010, 08:52:16 PM
It would be nice to send him to a team that look to pass ball around, a QPR or Cardiff would be lovely.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 28 October 2010, 08:59:22 PM
Thought he looked decent last night. Looked quite quick (I thought he looked quite slow and sluggish at Accrington) and played some good balls. Like Ranger, really needs to be loaned out.

He's lanky, so he's slow until he gets into his stride, but yeah, I was a bit surprised with the pace element he showed last night. Certainly didn't see anything like that at youth level.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 14 November 2010, 01:43:44 AM
Got in the national squad again for their friendly Vs Georgia.

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: gray on Thursday 16 December 2010, 10:09:49 PM
Is he injured?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 16 December 2010, 10:12:40 PM
Is he injured?

Just got back to traning after an injury.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 16 December 2010, 10:13:55 PM
Shocking player.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 16 December 2010, 10:18:25 PM
I thought he was god?  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 16 December 2010, 10:19:29 PM
Going to be.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 16 December 2010, 10:21:44 PM
 :pow:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Thursday 16 December 2010, 10:23:18 PM
Ronaldo is just doing what he did with Carroll, slagging him off knowing it will spur him on to become top class.  O0 :snod:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Colocho on Thursday 16 December 2010, 11:31:13 PM
Shocking player.

 :mackems:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 16 December 2010, 11:31:55 PM
He's becoming irritatingly injury prone like.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Thursday 16 December 2010, 11:34:43 PM
He's becoming irritatingly injury prone like.

He is a eastern bloc playmaker it is in their DNA to be injury prone.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Thursday 16 December 2010, 11:35:28 PM
Ronaldo is just doing what he did with Carroll, slagging him off knowing it will spur him on to become top class.  O0 :snod:

Just keeping his future self quote options open.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 16 December 2010, 11:41:22 PM
He's becoming irritatingly injury prone like.

He is a eastern bloc playmaker it is in their DNA to be injury prone.

Yep, that is true. He is also poor aerially despite being a giant and lacks work rate, he has it sussed.

Now he just needs to make sure he becomes the next Zlatko Zahovic.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Thespence on Friday 17 December 2010, 10:27:40 AM
He's becoming irritatingly injury prone like.

He is a eastern bloc playmaker it is in their DNA to be injury prone.

Yep, that is true. He is also poor aerially despite being a giant and lacks work rate, he has it sussed.

Now he just needs to make sure he becomes the next Zlatko Zahovic.

ZZ  what a player he was when he stepped up to the plate.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Saturday 8 January 2011, 12:31:37 PM
Man U can fk off sniffing around.. great news getting him on a new 5 1/2 year deal
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 1 February 2011, 10:55:35 PM
Back in light training after operation.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Tuesday 1 February 2011, 10:58:24 PM
Back in light training after operation.

any idea what the operation was on and whats been wrong with the lad?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ishmael on Tuesday 1 February 2011, 10:59:28 PM
Pony tail inserted for added ability.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 1 February 2011, 10:59:50 PM
Not sure. Dan King mentioned he needs to catch up with Vuckic soon, so hopefully they'll be a bit on the website. Hope it's not his knee/ankle again.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: oscar on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:22:36 PM
Back in the squad for arsenal!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:24:50 PM
Back in the squad for arsenal!

:)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: joeyt on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:25:16 PM
Good news :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:25:41 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: alexf on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:36:04 PM
put him upfront!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Zero on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:41:05 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:55:08 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.

No way.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Friday 4 February 2011, 05:59:22 PM
I'd we had any semblance of a squad you'd send him out on loan but as we can barely scrape a bench together.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Friday 4 February 2011, 06:00:26 PM
We can pretend he's from Gateshead can't we?  Everything's fine again.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Friday 4 February 2011, 06:28:16 PM
He hasnt played the recent reserve games because he was injured wasnt he? So how come he has jumped straight into the squad?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TBG on Friday 4 February 2011, 06:34:22 PM
He hasnt played the recent reserve games because he was injured wasnt he? So how come he has jumped straight into the squad?

If we could get the toilet cleaners registered in time they would be on the bench, at the moment if you can walk your in the squad
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 06:34:56 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.

Tomorrow? Clearly.

If you mean when both are fit, you should be locked up.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: palnese on Friday 4 February 2011, 06:38:06 PM
Gentle as ever

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:21:48 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.
I've yet to see anything in Vukcic to suggest this would be a good idea. Fail to see what the fuss is all about.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TheGuv on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:23:20 PM
Gentle as ever

 :lol: :lol:

I know :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:26:41 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.
I've yet to see anything in Vukcic to suggest this would be a good idea. Fail to see what the fuss is all about.

^^^

Above are examples of the 2 extremes fans hold towards youngsters at this club. Both are ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:30:54 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.
I've yet to see anything in Vukcic to suggest this would be a good idea. Fail to see what the fuss is all about.

^^^

Above are examples of the 2 extremes fans hold towards youngsters at this club. Both are ridiculous.

I don't think he's been the same player since his injury last season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:30:59 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.
I've yet to see anything in Vukcic to suggest this would be a good idea. Fail to see what the fuss is all about.

^^^

Above are examples of the 2 extremes fans hold towards youngsters at this club. Both are ridiculous.
How?
Reading this forum and others you'd think Vukcic was a wonder kid world beater, yet when i've seen him he's had no impact whatsoever and has looked poor.

I know he's only 18, but real wonderkids are playing first team games and stealing the show in them at tha age eg Michael Owen France 98 and Wayne Rooney scoring in the premiership against Everton aged 16.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:33:19 PM
How?
Reading this forum and others you'd think Vukcic was a wonder kid world beater, yet when i've seen him he's had no impact whatsoever and has looked poor.

I know he's only 18, but real wonderkids are playing first team games and stealing the show in them at tha age eg Michael Owen France 98 and Wayne Rooney scoring in the premiership against Everton aged 16.


He's looked class for the kids and reserves but injury has hampered him at first team level, that and Hughton not wanting to play kids last season which is my biggest problem with how Hughton managed us.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:34:13 PM
How?
Reading this forum and others you'd think Vukcic was a wonder kid world beater, yet when i've seen him he's had no impact whatsoever and has looked poor.

I know he's only 18, but real wonderkids are playing first team games and stealing the show in them at tha age eg Michael Owen France 98 and Wayne Rooney scoring in the premiership against Everton aged 16.


He's looked class for the kids and reserves but injury has hampered him at first team level, that and Hughton not wanting to play kids last season which is my biggest problem with how Hughton managed us.
How has Ranger looked at that level?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:35:24 PM
Which other 'kids' were good enough to play?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:35:50 PM
How has Ranger looked at that level?

Very good which has no bearing on Vuckic.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:36:49 PM
I'd prefer to play Vukcic rather than Ireland.
I've yet to see anything in Vukcic to suggest this would be a good idea. Fail to see what the fuss is all about.

^^^

Above are examples of the 2 extremes fans hold towards youngsters at this club. Both are ridiculous.
How?
Reading this forum and others you'd think Vukcic was a wonder kid world beater, yet when i've seen him he's had no impact whatsoever and has looked poor.

I know he's only 18, but real wonderkids are playing first team games and stealing the show in them at tha age eg Michael Owen France 98 and Wayne Rooney scoring in the premiership against Everton aged 16.


Nobody has said he's a wonderkid or a worldbeater man, and if they have then they're mad. People are just judging him based on what they've seen in the reserves/youth games and saying he'd probably be as much of a shout to play than some of the absolute dross in our squad. Carroll looked absolutely dire at 19, yet 3 years later he's gone for £35 million. Writing off youngsters because they 'look poor' in 3 CC games at 18 (alongside Alan Smith) is just as ridiculous as expecting the Slovenian Messi.

FWIW I thought he looked alright against Arsenal and no poorer than everybody else on show in that game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:37:05 PM
Which other 'kids' were good enough to play?

Ranger, Kadar and Vuckic.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:39:09 PM
How has Ranger looked at that level?

Very good which has no bearing on Vuckic.
Yes it does. Ranger looks out of his depth in the PL but good at youth/reserve level which is my point about Vukcic.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:40:41 PM
Ranger took the p*ss at U18 and Reserve level, but that was mainly down to his physical ability allowing him to take the p*ss (and his confidence was sky high). His technique was still a bit ropey though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:40:42 PM
Which other 'kids' were good enough to play?

Ranger, Kadar and Vuckic.

Kadar came in when needed (which wasn't often) and Ranger had plenty of chances.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:41:50 PM
Yes it does. Ranger looks out of his depth in the PL but good at youth/reserve level which is my point about Vukcic.

So just because you think one player looks out of his depth then they all will?  It doesn't work that way although I'm not sure how well he'll do myself, I'll not write him off this early.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:42:50 PM
Kadar came in when needed (which wasn't often) and Ranger had plenty of chances.

Kadar was kept out of the team by a Chelsea reserve who was here on loan so should have had more games.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:44:34 PM
Van Aanholt's stint was a complete failure, clearly.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:45:07 PM
I just don't see how people can say 'I don't see what all the fuss is about' based on 3 cup games. Similarly I don't see how people can dub players wonderkids on the same token. UD clearly doesn't watch reserve or yoof games and is hence basing his opinion on the lad from the very limited appearances he's made so far. Clearly made up his mind already, foreign and left-footed = don't trust  :shifty:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:46:58 PM
Yes it does. Ranger looks out of his depth in the PL but good at youth/reserve level which is my point about Vukcic.

So just because you think one player looks out of his depth then they all will?  It doesn't work that way although I'm not sure how well he'll do myself, I'll not write him off this early.
I'm not writing him off but just think looking good at that level is no barometer particularly as he is much bigger than the other kids in the same way that ranger was bigger physically than the other kids.

I've heard loads about him but have been left cold every time i've seen him as he just hasn't lived up to the billing.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:49:08 PM
I just don't see how people can say 'I don't see what all the fuss is about' based on 3 cup games. Similarly I don't see how people can dub players wonderkids on the same token. UD clearly doesn't watch reserve or yoof games and is hence basing his opinion on the lad from the very limited appearances he's made so far. Clearly made up his mind already, foreign and left-footed = don't trust  :shifty:
i couldn't be arsed to go and watch youth and reserve team games and am basing it on what i've seen at first team level.
others who do watch reserves and youth have raved about him which was why i was disapointed when i saw him in the 1st team as i just couldn't see what the fuss was all about.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:49:17 PM
He's much bigger yet is renowned for not putting himself about or exerting himself physically. From what I've seen of Vuckic in the Youth Cup and handful of reserve games he shone because of his technical ability, not any physical advantage.

Hasn't lived up to the billing? Hadaway man, what are you expecting ffs the lad is 18 :lol:

Out of interest did you rate Carroll during his early appearances in the first team?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:50:18 PM
Van Aanholt's stint was a complete failure, clearly.

He prevented one of our own players from gaining much needed experience so yes, it was a complete failure.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:51:54 PM
His fault that Hughton didn't want him to send him out on loan, clearly.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:53:27 PM
Van Aanholt's stint was a complete failure, clearly.

He prevented one of our own players from gaining much needed experience so yes, it was a complete failure.

He was ready to be a 1st choice LB Kadar was not.. Paddy Van was a cracking loan player for us. Kadar will get his chance.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:53:57 PM
i couldn't be arsed to go and watch youth and reserve team games and am basing it on what i've seen at first team level.
others who do watch reserves and youth have raved about him which was why i was disapointed when i saw him in the 1st team as i just couldn't see what the fuss was all about.

To be honest, I like watching the kids and reserves, at least they aren't a bunch of over-paid prima donnas, and it’s refreshing to watch.  It's a massive step up for kids to come through from the reserves and turn it on in the first team but we shouldn’t write them off when they are just starting off, I’m not saying that you’re doing that.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 07:59:35 PM
He was ready to be a 1st choice LB Kadar was not.. Paddy Van was a cracking loan player for us. Kadar will get his chance.

Kadar did come into the team at times and played well, he was ready for it and was even behind Fitz Hall in the pecking order.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:04:02 PM
You don't experiment with untested teenagers in defence.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:05:41 PM
You don't experiment with untested teenagers in defence.

Actually, you have to or you would never have defenders.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:07:23 PM
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Actually, you have to or you would never have defenders.
;D
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:10:56 PM
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Actually, you have to or you would never have defenders.
;D

On a serious note, go and see the reserves and kids if you have the chance, it's a good few hours.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:21:15 PM
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Actually, you have to or you would never have defenders.
;D

On a serious note, go and see the reserves and kids if you have the chance, it's a good few hours.
I've got 2 kids under 8 so i honestly don't have the time or inclination. It's hard enough dragging myself to midweek first team games man!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:24:09 PM
I've got 2 kids under 8 so i honestly don't have the time or inclination. It's hard enough dragging myself to midweek first team games man!

I was going to say take the kids but that would probably be classed as neglect or child cruelty.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JamesyJazz on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:31:47 PM
To get back to the point of this being 'The Haris Vuckic Thread'.

Really liked what I've seen of the lad,worried that he's just recently been injured and seems to me to have been rushed back into the squad.
Reports from well placed ex scouts and players suggest he is one for us in the near future to watch out for.Another young lad mentioned was Phil Airey,seemingly was going away on loan to Hibs until injured,rated more potential and better attitude than Ranger.



Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:41:00 PM
The most impressive thing about him from what I've seen so far (very little in truth) is his physical presence. He's huge.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Without having read any of the rest of the thread....Is Vuckic fit?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:42:21 PM
Without having read any of the rest of the thread....Is Vuckic fit?

In the squad for tomorrow. :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:43:34 PM
Without having read any of the rest of the thread....Is Vuckic fit?

Nice eyes, tidy hair.  Good physique.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:44:18 PM
The most impressive thing about him from what I've seen so far (very little in truth) is his physical presence. He's huge.

His passing ability is first class, he can make a pass others can't even see.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:44:33 PM
Without having read any of the rest of the thread....Is Vuckic fit?

Nice eyes, tidy hair.  Good physique.

:lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:47:28 PM
Without having read any of the rest of the thread....Is Vuckic fit?

In the squad for tomorrow. :thup:

Cheers David
Without having read any of the rest of the thread....Is Vuckic fit?

Nice eyes, tidy hair.  Good physique.

There's always one :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:50:16 PM
Where does he normally play for the reserves?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Recoba on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:53:08 PM
Aye, what is his actual position?  I've seen him play maybe four times and he's been out left, deep in midfield, off the frontman. . .
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 4 February 2011, 08:55:17 PM
Aye, what is his actual position?  I've seen him play maybe four times and he's been out left, deep in midfield, off the frontman. . .

I think it's been said he plays best off the frontman, but no idea where abouts he's used with the reserves and for Slovenia
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:36:03 PM
You don't experiment with untested teenagers in defence.

Actually, you have to or you would never have defenders.

No. You send them out on loan.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ykmkmdd on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:43:03 PM
Could he maybe do a job in centre mid alongside Tiote, with Nolan pushed further up?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:44:02 PM
No. You send them out on loan.

Where they are still untested teenagers, something which Van Aanholt was when we brought him in.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:47:14 PM
Could he maybe do a job in centre mid alongside Tiote, with Nolan pushed further up?

Would rather the other way round.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:52:47 PM
Van Aanholt wasn't an experiment, it was necessity. You're advocating putting defenders in the first team just for the sake of it. Not quite madness, but you can understand why CH didn't do it often.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:55:23 PM
Van Aanholt wasn't an experiment, it was necessity. You're advocating putting defenders in the first team just for the sake of it. Not quite madness, but you can understand why CH didn't do it often.

Who said we should put a defender in the first team for the sake of it?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:57:02 PM
You, basically.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 09:57:38 PM
You, basically.

Got a link to where I said that?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: kingxlnc on Friday 4 February 2011, 10:18:32 PM
This COULD be his time to shine. He has scored some excellent goals for the reserves - and has a sweet left foot. Certainly worth a try, late on in games against tiring defences.

I think he could in all honesty become the next 'Carroll' - in terms of value skyrocketing. (Not sold in the same way, obviously I hope!)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Friday 4 February 2011, 10:24:50 PM
I thought him and Ranger were two of our best players when we lost to Arsenal in the Carling Cup. Vukic needs to play in a team with good passing ability rather than the hoof and battle ploy we currently employ. He's fast and direct, we just need midfielders who'll release him early. Same could be said for Ranger tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Friday 4 February 2011, 11:08:47 PM
If Haris gets himself fit, even though they are both kids we could find that our best option while Shola is out is put Haris and Ranger upfront.  They have played together plenty of times and have a good understanding at reserve level.
You'd need a manager with balls to throw an 18 and 19 year old upfront together though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Friday 4 February 2011, 11:34:19 PM
He's fast?? ???
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 4 February 2011, 11:35:05 PM
He's fast?? ???

I didn't think so, but he seemed to be in the Arsenal cup game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Friday 4 February 2011, 11:44:57 PM
No. You send them out on loan.

Where they are still untested teenagers, something which Van Aanholt was when we brought him in.

Van Aanholt had had half a season at Coventry prior to moving to us, something which was obviously noted by CH/scouts and saw enough in that time to bring him in as cover where he did a very good job.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Friday 4 February 2011, 11:50:36 PM
Van Aanholt had had half a season at Coventry prior to moving to us, something which was obviously noted by CH/scouts and saw enough in that time to bring him in as cover where he did a very good job.

Half a season at Coventry is hardly a great deal of experience, I still say starting Van Aanholt ahead of our own player was crazy.  Not just because Kadar was ours but because he was good enough to start for us in the Championship and in need of more experience, experience that we gave to a player from another club.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Friday 4 February 2011, 11:54:25 PM
Van Aanholt had had half a season at Coventry prior to moving to us, something which was obviously noted by CH/scouts and saw enough in that time to bring him in as cover where he did a very good job.

Half a season at Coventry is hardly a great deal of experience, I still say starting Van Aanholt ahead of our own player was crazy.  Not just because Kadar was ours but because he was good enough to start for us in the Championship and in need of more experience, experience that we gave to a player from another club.

Kadar isn't a natural attacking LB though which is what was needed to replace Jose, Van Aanholt was and half a season is more than enough to show you can cope with the league. I do understand where you're coming from though. I've not seen a lot of Vuckic but what I have seen I've been impressed by and it's a great shame he has been injured again for large swathes of the season and if we're safe I'd want him playing ahead of Ireland anyday of the week.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Saturday 5 February 2011, 12:00:42 AM
Kadar isn't a natural attacking LB though which is what was needed to replace Jose, Van Aanholt was and half a season is more than enough to show you can cope with the league. I do understand where you're coming from though. I've not seen a lot of Vuckic but what I have seen I've been impressed by and it's a great shame he has been injured again for large swathes of the season and if we're safe I'd want him playing ahead of Ireland anyday of the week.

I thought that he did well when he played at left back and didn't hold us back as he got forward well.  He was more than good enough for the Championship last season and he showed that when he played.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 15 February 2011, 05:00:42 PM
When (hopefully not a "if") we're in safety this season  i would like to see him given some games with our best players starting as well.

Could save us millions, and im all for giving youth the chance when possible. I think he would improve more quickly playing with some quality players around him as well. (our strikers are below average though)

as well

as well

as well

as well
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BottledDog on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:45:05 PM
Cracking little interview with him on NUTV today.

I know we have a wealth of attacking midfielders, but really hope he gets some more games this year. :clap2:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BooBoo on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:47:39 PM
Cracking little interview with him on NUTV today. I know we have a wealth of attacking midfielders, but really hope he gets some more games this year. :clap2:

Huge year ahead for him really. If he really is (as many say) going to be a top player then he needs to start showing glimpses this season. It's been mildly disappointing how little impact he's made in the last two years. I do accept however he spent a long time last season injured.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BottledDog on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:51:33 PM
Cracking little interview with him on NUTV today. I know we have a wealth of attacking midfielders, but really hope he gets some more games this year. :clap2:

Huge year ahead for him really. If he really is (as many say) going to be a top player then he needs to start showing glimpses this season. It's been mildly disappointing how little impact he's made in the last two years. I do accept however he spent a long time last season injured.

To say the least, but as you say, the injuries must have played a massive part in that. Fingers crossed that he's over them now.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:52:13 PM
I don't see where he'll get his chance even if he is fit, tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:53:46 PM
He does seem a canny lad, good English too, and at least he can't do his hammy plying table tennis.
:D
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:53:59 PM
I don't see where he'll get his chance even if he is fit, tbh.

Cup games, I guess.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:54:38 PM
Needs to play with proven players in his natural position to have a chance to become more than "potential"

And stay fit of course. Have a good feeling he will do well this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:56:02 PM
Very easy to forget that he is still only 18. Even despite the injuries over the last couple of seasons he still has a lot of time to make up for what he's lost.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:57:12 PM
Also I think when he does get gametime in the cups Pardew will be more inclined to play him in his 'natural' position than Hughton ever was.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 06:59:29 PM
Also I think when he does get gametime in the cups Pardew will be more inclined to play him in his 'natural' position than Hughton ever was.

I hope so, he's not a cm.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 07:03:01 PM
Exactly. For all his limited chances have been underwhelming not one of them has he played in what is supposed to be his best position.

Pardew the suave silver fox seems to have an open mind to the continental #10.  :snod:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 07:07:03 PM
I don't see where he'll get his chance even if he is fit, tbh.

Cup games, I guess.

Yeah. 'thought people were talking about him getting into the first team.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 07:29:02 PM
Even though he has shown very little so far he's shown a few glimpses of class, like the pass with the outside of his foot (was it against Arsenal?)

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 07:34:10 PM
I really don't like getting amongst the hype but he did look decent at Arsenal. Was a lovely pass, don't think anyone else in our team that day would have seen that opportunity.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 08:05:18 PM
I reckon a stint on loan would do him the world of good
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 08:20:32 PM
He has an amusingly deep voice. Big lad.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 08:22:12 PM
He has gathered more facial hair - When this happened to Carroll overnight he was class. That's the key - screw training.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: healthyaddiction on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 08:27:46 PM
Carroll got good the moment I said to my dad that I thought he wasn't going to make it.  That's why Ranger will be amazing next season, i've given up hope.  All Vuckic needs to do is convince me he's useless and he'll be the next maradona.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 08:28:27 PM
He has an amusingly deep voice. Big lad.

Darth Vader like?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 12 July 2011, 10:30:40 PM
He has an amusingly deep voice. Big lad.

Darth Vader like?

He could tell Ferguson "Fergie, im your father"
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ashley17 on Wednesday 13 July 2011, 08:44:04 AM
Exactly. For all his limited chances have been underwhelming not one of them has he played in what is supposed to be his best position.

Pardew the suave silver fox seems to have an open mind to the continental #10.  :snod:

He played in the number 10 role in the Arsenal cup game, he was ok, put through one very nice ball for Carroll late on. His best game was away at Chelsea, but everyone was ace that night.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Chase on Saturday 16 July 2011, 03:21:05 PM
Does anyone know how he got on last night, how well did he do?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Saturday 16 July 2011, 03:21:32 PM
Does anyone know how he got on last night, how well did he do?

By most accounts quite poor
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 16 July 2011, 03:25:02 PM
Does anyone know how he got on last night, how well did he do?

He had a poor game IMO.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 03:27:34 PM
Yeah not great. Looked awkward when he had to cut inside because he's obviously very left footed, and he's not really the kind of player who could go outside. As has been said by many reserve watchers he's not one to challenge in the air either, which will get him stick for such a big lad.

Some of the better link up happened when he drifted centrally. Might have been worth swapping him and Hatem round at some point of the game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Recoba on Saturday 16 July 2011, 03:32:27 PM
I thought he  was decent. Looked comfortable with the ball and willingness to put his foot  in when not in possession.

Looked a bit awkward out wide, like Van Persie used to for Feyonord when stuck out left.

Wouldn't describe his performance as poor. He created a chance for himself with a cracking bit of skill.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 03:36:28 PM
Wouldn't describe his performance as poor. He created a chance for himself with a cracking bit of skill.

Aye, that was the best thing he did... but like I said before he was cutting onto his much weaker foot.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Flip on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:00:10 PM
There must be a reason why everyone has rated him so high. I have high hopes for him, and think he would thrive as substitute for Ben Arfa in cup games and games that we have a big lead.

Number 10 behind the striker like Ben Arfa will do him wonders I believe, no need to loan him out, the 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 is perfect for him if you believe what you read.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:05:40 PM
He is not a winger so playing him out wide was the wrong move tbh, much like Viana was forced to play out wide when he clearly wasnt suited to that position
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jack Flash on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:09:02 PM
Seems to be a lot of experts on him on here despite him only playing about 3 games in his entire career.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:12:17 PM
Seems to be a lot of experts on him on here despite him only playing about 3 games in his entire career.

It's not difficult to know which foot he is and what his favourite position is.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:14:23 PM
I saw him in the cup game against Arsenal and it looked to me like he would be ideal playing behind a striker as a more direct alternative to Ben Arfa. He looks quick and like he has an eye for goal.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:17:23 PM
It's sounding like he can only really play in the centre, fingers crossed he'll get that chance.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:18:32 PM
Could you not just scroll up?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jack Flash on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:22:17 PM
Seems to be a lot of experts on him on here despite him only playing about 3 games in his entire career.

It's not difficult to know which foot he is and what his favourite position is.

"he's not really the kind of player who could go outside" "he's not one to challenge in the air" "Might have been worth swapping him and Hatem round at some point of the game."

All based on very little evidence.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:31:28 PM
Seems to be a lot of experts on him on here despite him only playing about 3 games in his entire career.

It's not difficult to know which foot he is and what his favourite position is.

"he's not really the kind of player who could go outside" "he's not one to challenge in the air" "Might have been worth swapping him and Hatem round at some point of the game."

All based on very little evidence.

Eh? it's pretty basic analysis based on watching him play for both the reserves and the full team. He's a typical European style #10 who's not likely to track back and put himself about as much as his size suggests. In the reserves he rarely challenges for the ball in the air and when he does he looks uncomfortable doing it.

He's also not a natural wide player who can get to the byline and put crosses in, hence why I said he looks uncomfortable going outside of a fullback. He looked more comfortable when he moved towards the middle of the pitch in his natural area, hence why I said it might have been worth swapping at some point since Ben Arfa is comfortable out wide as well as in the middle.

I really don't know what you're getting at, it's all very basic observations who I'm sure the likes of OCK and Greg who have seen him even more would agree with.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:40:01 PM
Sewelly has become such a little radgie lately.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Fenham Mag on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:43:54 PM
I have said he had a poor game but i still think he'll be a good player. Sewelly is right saying he would have been much better in HBA position but thats not likely for a couple of seasons.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:45:41 PM
Sewelly has become such a little radgie lately.  :lol:

Never to you. x
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jack Flash on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:52:39 PM
Seems to be a lot of experts on him on here despite him only playing about 3 games in his entire career.

It's not difficult to know which foot he is and what his favourite position is.

"he's not really the kind of player who could go outside" "he's not one to challenge in the air" "Might have been worth swapping him and Hatem round at some point of the game."

All based on very little evidence.

Eh? it's pretty basic analysis based on watching him play for both the reserves and the full team. He's a typical European style #10 who's not likely to track back and put himself about as much as his size suggests. In the reserves he rarely challenges for the ball in the air and when he does he looks uncomfortable doing it.

He's also not a natural wide player who can get to the byline and put crosses in, hence why I said he looks uncomfortable going outside of a fullback. He looked more comfortable when he moved towards the middle of the pitch in his natural area, hence why I said it might have been worth swapping at some point since Ben Arfa is comfortable out wide as well as in the middle.

I really don't know what you're getting at, it's all very basic observations who I'm sure the likes of OCK and Greg who have seen him even more would agree with.

But all that is based on reserve games (most of which haven't been seen) and a few appearances at a level he clearly isn't ready for. He needs far more games at a high level to work him out.

Can I just assume he's amazing on computer games or something?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 04:53:28 PM
 :facepalm:

Neesy is better than you.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:06:45 PM
Right, I'll stick with this then.


But all that is based on reserve games (most of which haven't been seen) and a few appearances at a level he clearly isn't ready for. He needs far more games at a high level to work him out.

Can I just assume he's amazing on computer games or something?

What else are opinions of players supposed to be based on other than what we've seen? Most of his best performances for the reserves and youth team came when playing as an attacking midfielder through the middle, the same position he himself has said is his best position as recently as last week. Everything I have said is fundamentally obvious as it stands. Maybe his workrate will improve (one of the games last season for the first team he put himself about more than he ever has at other levels) as his career goes on, maybe he be able to play out wide more naturally as he develops. I cannot see the future.

However as it stands he's a player that has proven to struggle when played even slightly out of position. This doesn't tend to change for players of his ilk.

I'm basing my analysis on what I've seen of him up to now, you're just being pointlessly dismissive and awkward.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:09:32 PM
The hype's basically because he's supposed to be a 'number 10' and has a cool name.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:11:26 PM
What hype?

There's been no more hype than for anybody else who has looked very good at reserve and youth level. The only 'hype' I've seen is people stupidly putting him in line-ups for league games and stuff.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:13:04 PM
There's been a lot of it, man.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Wullie on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:13:33 PM
He's simply not getting enough football imo.

I look at players like Wilshere and Phil Jones and I worry that we leave it far too late to get players on the field regularly at any decent level. Vuckic is six months younger than those two, highly rated, yet they've been playing fairly regularly for at least 18 months while Vuckic has done nothing, not even a loan spell, and imo, you can gain very little from reserve team football. Andy Carroll is the perfect example of how important regular first team football is at a young age.

Kadar's the same, he's had injuries but at 21, he should have way more experience than he does and I fear he'll fall by the wayside.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:15:23 PM
There's been a lot of it, man.

Don't let it get to you then, Micky.

He's simply not getting enough football imo.

I look at players like Wilshere and Phil Jones and I worry that we leave it far too late to get players on the field regularly at any decent level. Vuckic is six months younger than those two, highly rated, yet they've been playing fairly regularly for at least 18 months while Vuckic has done nothing, not even a loan spell, and imo, you can gain very little from reserve team football. Andy Carroll is the perfect example of how important regular first team football is at a young age.

Yep. He probably would have been out on loan last season if he wasn't injured.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:15:30 PM
He's simply not getting enough football imo.

I look at players like Wilshere and Phil Jones and I worry that we leave it far too late to get players on the field regularly at any decent level. Vuckic is six months younger than those two, highly rated, yet they've been playing fairly regularly for at least 18 months while Vuckic has done nothing, not even a loan spell, and imo, you can gain very little from reserve team football. Andy Carroll is the perfect example of how important regular first team football is at a young age.

Kadar's the same, he's had injuries but at 21, he should have way more experience than he does and I fear he'll fall by the wayside.

Spot on Wullie. That was my biggest criticism of Hughton, especially when we were in the Championship.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:17:37 PM
He's simply not getting enough football imo.

I look at players like Wilshere and Phil Jones and I worry that we leave it far too late to get players on the field regularly at any decent level. Vuckic is six months younger than those two, highly rated, yet they've been playing fairly regularly for at least 18 months while Vuckic has done nothing, not even a loan spell, and imo, you can gain very little from reserve team football. Andy Carroll is the perfect example of how important regular first team football is at a young age.

Kadar's the same, he's had injuries but at 21, he should have way more experience than he does and I fear he'll fall by the wayside.

Spot on Wullie. That was my biggest criticism of Hughton, especially when we were in the Championship.

Bringing in Pancrate instead of playing LuaLua, signing van Aanholt instead of playing Kadar in particular.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:19:59 PM
So do we want to buy N'Zogbia and other defenders, or give these lads more game time?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Recoba on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:20:15 PM
I thought he looked quite physical. He clattered a couple of Darlo players.  Certainly not a soft continental no 10.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BooBoo on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:20:35 PM
Obviously getting out of the championship was a high priority but it was a shame that Carroll aside, none o our youngsters were given the chance to really push on.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:23:51 PM
So do we want to buy N'Zogbia and other defenders, or give these lads more game time?

Different scenario.

Signing somebody s*** like Pancrate on a free was pretty pointless when we could have just played LuaLua. Same with loaning a Chelsea reserve and giving them gametime rather than our own.

Not to mention we were in the Championship at the time, not the Premier League with a desperate need for ready made quality.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:24:38 PM
Geremi over LuaLua was absolutely criminal in those initial weeks of the Championship, like. So was playing the likes of Lovenkrands and Butt when promotion was secured, we should have got some of the kids in straight away. In the end we gave Vuckic about 10 minutes at QPR, big f***ing deal.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Fenham Mag on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:25:48 PM
I thought he looked quite physical. He clattered a couple of Darlo players.  Certainly not a soft continental no 10.

A bit like Kaka.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:25:48 PM

Spot on Wullie. That was my biggest criticism of Hughton, especially when we were in the Championship.

That was also my biggest problem with Hughton and it will only be worse under Pardew.  We've already seen that he'll not pick the kids when we fielded a strong unmotivated team against Stevenage in the Cup.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:26:14 PM
Geremi over LuaLua was absolutely criminal in those initial weeks of the Championship, like. So was playing the likes of Lovenkrands and Butt when promotion was secured, we should have got some of the kids in straight away. In the end we gave Vuckic about 10 minutes at QPR, big f***ing deal.

The one chance we did throw youngsters in against Peterborough in the Cup we put half a team of them in accompanied by some first teamers playing out of position. Suffice to say it was a disaster.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:29:29 PM
He's simply not getting enough football imo.

I look at players like Wilshere and Phil Jones and I worry that we leave it far too late to get players on the field regularly at any decent level. Vuckic is six months younger than those two, highly rated, yet they've been playing fairly regularly for at least 18 months while Vuckic has done nothing, not even a loan spell, and imo, you can gain very little from reserve team football. Andy Carroll is the perfect example of how important regular first team football is at a young age.

Kadar's the same, he's had injuries but at 21, he should have way more experience than he does and I fear he'll fall by the wayside.

Good point. I've often felt that we have been too slow in giving some of the younger guys a chance, even if it's just coming off the bench - just look at Ferguson's impact when given a run. Maybe with Nolan leaving Vukic will get more of a look in as both are goal scoring midfielders although their qualities are different.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:36:04 PM
Peterbrough was pushing the theory Wullie's proposing too far. For first team football to be beneficial to youngsters it needs to be alongside their more senior team-mates not surrounded by the youngsters in the reserves.

Say for example pick no more than three (Vuckic, Kadar, LuaLua) and play those three in their natural positions.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Wullie on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:38:42 PM
Peterbrough was pushing the theory Wullie's proposing too far. For first team football to be beneficial to youngsters it needs to be alongside their more senior team-mates not surrounded by the youngsters in the reserves.

Say for example pick no more than three (Vuckic, Kadar, LuaLua) and play those three in their natural positions.

:thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:42:30 PM
Peterbrough was pushing the theory Wullie's proposing too far. For first team football to be beneficial to youngsters it needs to be alongside their more senior team-mates not surrounded by the youngsters in the reserves.

Say for example pick no more than three (Vuckic, Kadar, LuaLua) and play those three in their natural positions.

:thup:

That's what I was getting at btw Sewelly; LuaLua should have been in front of Geremi when he played, and as soon as promotion was assured we should have picked the three most promising ones (+Krul in net) and played them for a few matches.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:49:12 PM
Yeah I completely agree with both you. That's what I was meaning with the Peterborough game, we threw too many in together rather than put them in a competitive team where they can benefit.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:52:23 PM
Yeah I completely agree with both you. That's what I was meaning with the Peterborough game, we threw too many in together rather than put them in a competitive team where they can benefit.

:thup: that was equally daft. What was it, S.Taylor, Guthrie and Lovenkrands (and Krul in goal) and then pretty much all first starts after that? I remember Nolan and co. coming on to try and salvage it, what a farce.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 05:55:02 PM
Ryan Taylor played left back.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jack Flash on Saturday 16 July 2011, 07:06:34 PM
Right, I'll stick with this then.


But all that is based on reserve games (most of which haven't been seen) and a few appearances at a level he clearly isn't ready for. He needs far more games at a high level to work him out.

Can I just assume he's amazing on computer games or something?

What else are opinions of players supposed to be based on other than what we've seen? Most of his best performances for the reserves and youth team came when playing as an attacking midfielder through the middle, the same position he himself has said is his best position as recently as last week. Everything I have said is fundamentally obvious as it stands. Maybe his workrate will improve (one of the games last season for the first team he put himself about more than he ever has at other levels) as his career goes on, maybe he be able to play out wide more naturally as he develops. I cannot see the future.

However as it stands he's a player that has proven to struggle when played even slightly out of position. This doesn't tend to change for players of his ilk.

I'm basing my analysis on what I've seen of him up to now, you're just being pointlessly dismissive and awkward.

"pointlessly dismissive and awkward" because I haven't made several judgements on a player with maybe 20 games in his whole career, with about 4 of those at a decent level?

Maybe let him have a few more first team starts before you start thinking you've figured it all out, eh?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 07:24:04 PM
Right, I'll stick with this then.


But all that is based on reserve games (most of which haven't been seen) and a few appearances at a level he clearly isn't ready for. He needs far more games at a high level to work him out.

Can I just assume he's amazing on computer games or something?

What else are opinions of players supposed to be based on other than what we've seen? Most of his best performances for the reserves and youth team came when playing as an attacking midfielder through the middle, the same position he himself has said is his best position as recently as last week. Everything I have said is fundamentally obvious as it stands. Maybe his workrate will improve (one of the games last season for the first team he put himself about more than he ever has at other levels) as his career goes on, maybe he be able to play out wide more naturally as he develops. I cannot see the future.

However as it stands he's a player that has proven to struggle when played even slightly out of position. This doesn't tend to change for players of his ilk.

I'm basing my analysis on what I've seen of him up to now, you're just being pointlessly dismissive and awkward.

"pointlessly dismissive and awkward" because I haven't made several judgements on a player with maybe 20 games in his whole career, with about 4 of those at a decent level?

Maybe let him have a few more first team starts before you start thinking you've figured it all out, eh?

How have I got it 'all figured out'.  :lol:  f***ing hell man, can't comment or discuss anything without being shot down by non-contributive divvees like yourself. 20 games is a pretty decent sample to make a judgement on what kind of player he is and what is strengths and weaknesses are or might be. Reet, lets just not discuss him as a player whatsoever then.

Infact, lets just not post and not comment on anything, close the forum down.

90% of the stuff on here is aimless guff, or discussing stuff that is speculative and opinion based. That's all I've done with my posts about this particular player. Given my opinions on him on what I've seen, none of which I think is wholly unreasonable. It's not as if I've made a fundamental judgement of how his career will go from now on, is it? Why don't you go into the Shane Ferguson thread and start shooting down anybody who says that he's not big enough or comments on what kind of player he is?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jack Flash on Saturday 16 July 2011, 09:22:10 PM
20 games is a pretty decent sample to make a judgement on what kind of player he is and what is strengths and weaknesses are or might be.

No, it isn't. Especially since you've probably seen him play only 4 or 5 times yourself and he was hugely out of his depth in most of those games.

This is obviously going nowhere so no need to mega-post me again.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 July 2011, 09:53:28 PM
20 games is a pretty decent sample to make a judgement on what kind of player he is and what is strengths and weaknesses are or might be.

No, it isn't. Especially since you've probably seen him play only 4 or 5 times yourself and he was hugely out of his depth in most of those games.

This is obviously going nowhere so no need to mega-post me again.

:lol: It's not enough to make a categoric judgement but it's more than enough to point out simple observations about what kind of player he is FFS. What I've said is absolutely no different to people saying that Shane Ferguson looks a confident dribbler, or that they think he looks more suited to playing out wide etc. Players are scouted and signed on the basis of far fewer viewings than that, so I think pointing out pretty simple stuff like he's left footed and looks uncomfortable playing out wide is fair game.

Honestly, man, what a load of nonsense you're spouting. Hope that doesn't count as a 'megapost'.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jack Flash on Saturday 16 July 2011, 11:21:38 PM
20 games is a pretty decent sample to make a judgement on what kind of player he is and what is strengths and weaknesses are or might be.

No, it isn't. Especially since you've probably seen him play only 4 or 5 times yourself and he was hugely out of his depth in most of those games.

This is obviously going nowhere so no need to mega-post me again.

:lol: It's not enough to make a categoric judgement but it's more than enough to point out simple observations about what kind of player he is FFS. What I've said is absolutely no different to people saying that Shane Ferguson looks a confident dribbler, or that they think he looks more suited to playing out wide etc. Players are scouted and signed on the basis of far fewer viewings than that, so I think pointing out pretty simple stuff like he's left footed and looks uncomfortable playing out wide is fair game.

Honestly, man, what a load of nonsense you're spouting. Hope that doesn't count as a 'megapost'.  :rolleyes:

Ferguson has actually proved those things in his few matches at a high level. Matches most of us have actually seen I should add, not just heard about.

Vuckic has looked massively out of his depth in most (all?) of his high level matches so why people are making such specific judgements about him is comical. Ranger looked like he had an eye for a goal at reserve level fwiw.

Repeating myself now. Might just buy football manager to see how he's going to turn out.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ash on Saturday 16 July 2011, 11:59:31 PM
20 games is a pretty decent sample to make a judgement on what kind of player he is and what is strengths and weaknesses are or might be.

No, it isn't. Especially since you've probably seen him play only 4 or 5 times yourself and he was hugely out of his depth in most of those games.

This is obviously going nowhere so no need to mega-post me again.

:lol: It's not enough to make a categoric judgement but it's more than enough to point out simple observations about what kind of player he is FFS. What I've said is absolutely no different to people saying that Shane Ferguson looks a confident dribbler, or that they think he looks more suited to playing out wide etc. Players are scouted and signed on the basis of far fewer viewings than that, so I think pointing out pretty simple stuff like he's left footed and looks uncomfortable playing out wide is fair game.

Honestly, man, what a load of nonsense you're spouting. Hope that doesn't count as a 'megapost'.  :rolleyes:

Ferguson has actually proved those things in his few matches at a high level. Matches most of us have actually seen I should add, not just heard about.

Vuckic has looked massively out of his depth in most (all?) of his high level matches so why people are making such specific judgements about him is comical. Ranger looked like he had an eye for a goal at reserve level fwiw.

Repeating myself now. Might just buy football manager to see how he's going to turn out.

How many games has he played for the first team in his natural position?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Sunday 17 July 2011, 12:25:03 AM
Right. Everyone stop posting. Nothing to see here. We can now only post hard facts, so might as well just read the news. Clearly opinion isn't allowed without someone getting a massive cockstand about it.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 17 July 2011, 12:27:27 AM
:lol:

It's not even about him playing in his natural position or how he has coped at this level. It's his fundamental point that I apparently can't make judgements on him as a player whatsoever. I've seen him play maybe 6-7 times for the reserves and youth on top of a handful of first team games, more than enough to come to conclusions about his position, footedness and some strengths and weaknesses. Hardly groundbreaking stuff. People were making observations about Cabaye after watching him play a couple of times for Lille and France, obviously we don't know how he's going to cope in the Premier League for sure but all it was is basic, speculative observations about his style of play, possible strengths etc.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Sunday 17 July 2011, 12:29:57 AM
And everyone knows that Barfa is God, despite him only playing for us for a total of 34 seconds all in.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Sunday 17 July 2011, 12:47:00 AM
So long as we're all clear only Colocho knows about Marveaux.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 17 July 2011, 12:49:54 AM
Tbf I was pretty harsh on Colocho on that occasion, but it was only because his opinion on the player seemed to change and contradict itself.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Adam^ on Sunday 17 July 2011, 03:27:19 AM
f*** it, sod Ben Arfa 10 Im going for Vuckic 29 again this year (he is still 29 right?). This lad is going to be awesome, if not I'll be cool with the name no-one has ever heard of!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beezeri on Sunday 17 July 2011, 09:43:14 AM
You can definitely make some sort of a judgement of a players ability just by watching him train not to mention playing a game. However playing out of his natural position could have a major impact on his performance(especially right footed players playing out wide left...like Jonas) until he is used to it.

All of our young guns are training with the first team, right? It's the same thing with Kadar I guess...Vuckic has been out injured for long periods and he hasn't been able to train with the first team which is certainly different compared to the youths. He's still a young lad and we have enough time for him. Do you really expect an 18 years old foreign player to be ready for the big stage quite yet?

I think loaning him out to a level like League One team would be perfect...his potential and technical ability should be better than most at that level but physically he's not ready and few months out there would do him miracles I guess. Same goes with Kadar but Championship would be his level.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beezeri on Sunday 17 July 2011, 09:44:46 AM
f*** it, sod Ben Arfa 10 Im going for Vuckic 29 again this year (he is still 29 right?). This lad is going to be awesome, if not I'll be cool with the name no-one has ever heard of!

Same here...I've got mine already :pow:

I have high hopes for the lad indeed
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 17 July 2011, 10:03:04 AM

Spot on Wullie. That was my biggest criticism of Hughton, especially when we were in the Championship.

That was also my biggest problem with Hughton and it will only be worse under Pardew.  We've already seen that he'll not pick the kids when we fielded a strong unmotivated team against Stevenage in the Cup.

To be fair, he made a lot of noises about sending players out on loan when he came in. He will have more chance to do that now so we will probably see his true intentions when the window closes.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 12:36:33 PM
Haris Vuckic: Trust me to find United's goals
by Lee Ryder, Evening Chronicle
Jul 26 2011


Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/26/haris-vuckic-trust-me-to-find-united-s-goals-72703-29118752/#ixzz1TD6lkoBh
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: alexf on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 01:20:49 PM
everytime i see his face, i picture one of kasper's dancing gifs :)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 02:17:54 PM
I'd like him to prove that he can do anything of consequence in a competitive football match first. Desperately want him to succeed but so far we've seen nothing.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 06:16:40 PM
See your point oldtype, but he hasn't done too shabbily in the handful of competitive outings he's had - and generally in reserve-strength sides.

Providing he is doing the business in training, I'd be happy to see him compete more robustly for a back-up CM spot ahead of Smith/Guthrie if he is deserving of it. Hopefully Pardew (or whoever is picking the team) won't be afraid to take to take risks if he is outperforming his peers.

In any case, good to hear some hunger, appetite and confidence. :)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 06:17:30 PM
I'd like him to prove that he can do anything of consequence in a competitive football match first. Desperately want him to succeed but so far we've seen nothing.

He's also bee played out of position by all accounts.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 06:17:34 PM
Excited about him and Abeid this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: QBG on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 06:21:25 PM
Excited about him and Abeid this season.

Their presence on the tour suggests the management have been impressed and they won't be far down the pecking order this season. Especially with the likes of Guthrie injured and Smith well Smith.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 06:23:02 PM
Excited about him and Abeid this season.

Yeah we won't have to sign any players...

Will be nice to see how much we get for them...

Etc, etc...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beezeri on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 07:05:02 PM
Excited about him and Abeid this season.

Yeah we won't have to sign any players...

Will be nice to see how much we get for them...

Etc, etc...

So....you're happy with Ba, Shola, Best and Loven in attack then?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SiLvOR on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 07:13:15 PM
If you're serious about Cajun being serious, then you need a serious word with yourself.
At least I hope Cajun is joking. Or I'm now a #helmet.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 26 July 2011, 07:21:00 PM
There were consecutive positive posts, didn't want the forum to crack or anything so pulled out a couple of the templates  O0
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Adam^ on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:34:07 AM
All hail Haris!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:37:13 AM
He's going to be a god.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:37:52 AM
Pleased that he's notched a goal. I'm counting that as two for the tour now. Promising; be nice to see him get a chance out on loan this season. He's clearly on the fringes so one would assume he's ready for first team football week-in, week-out. Get him out in the Championship.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:40:06 AM
I'd rather keep him here. There's only one other player in the squad who can play in the same position.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:40:40 AM
Pleased that he's notched a goal. I'm counting that as two for the tour now. Promising; be nice to see him get a chance out on loan this season. He's clearly on the fringes so one would assume he's ready for first team football week-in, week-out. Get him out in the Championship.

Needs to stay fit first.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:40:45 AM
Don't see him featuring much this season tbh. He scored last pre-season, too.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:42:48 AM
A player with a bit of athleticism who can also strike a football correctly, man. I've waited all my life for this.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 03:04:57 AM
He's typically left-footed isn't he? Going off the photos of tonight's game, seems he hit the best goal the world has ever seen with his right... so he's two-footed too? The guy's gonna be amazinggg.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: magpie99 on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 06:44:58 AM
His time has come. The only way he is going to imProve further is by [playing against the best in the PL.

Personally, I would be brave and start him against Arsenal and see how he goes for a few games.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 07:41:24 AM
I was really hoping for a goal once he was subbed on, he had a half chance from distance earlier he didn't take. Made some nice touches throughout. Goal was great though, I knew it was in right as he hit it, took a nice bend and in off the post. That's the first real positive thing I've seen him done, glad I was there in person.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 07:42:45 AM
Would be superb if the likes of him, Abeid and Gosling all step up this year.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 08:25:24 AM
I was really hoping for a goal once he was subbed on, he had a half chance from distance earlier he didn't take. Made some nice touches throughout. Goal was great though, I knew it was in right as he hit it, took a nice bend and in off the post. That's the first real positive thing I've seen him done, glad I was there in person.

You say he he scored by bending the ball, he passes like that to get the ball around defenders.  He's done it for the kids and reserves, he needs to take his chances in the first team when he gets them.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 08:41:32 AM
Don't see him featuring much this season tbh. He scored last pre-season, too.

Yeah.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Elliottman on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 08:45:56 AM
Don't see him featuring much this season tbh. He scored last pre-season, too.

Yeah.

I think he'll get a fair amoun of appearances from the bench to be honest.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beezeri on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 08:51:15 AM
Don't see him featuring much this season tbh. He scored last pre-season, too.

Yeah.

I think he'll get a fair amoun of appearances from the bench to be honest.

I'd loan him out for a Championship team for like 3 months to get some regular first team football at first. He could be back much stronger after that and be ready to actually start games at SJP
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 09:25:18 AM
Would be superb if the likes of him, Abeid and Gosling all step up this year.

I'm excited about all three of them TBH. We may as well give them a shot, I'm sick of having decent youngsters and never developing them properly. Would be nice if two or three could make an impact on the first team.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Chase on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 09:36:18 AM
Gosling has had a lot of first team opportunities with Everton already so I can see him getting quite a few minutes on pitch in the league this year, Abeid and Vuckic will be used more sparingly although I would love to see more of both when the opportunity comes instead of throwing people like Smith out on pitch to achieve nothing of notice.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 10:24:43 AM
There any footage of last nights goal knocking about?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 10:29:57 AM
If he isn't seen as an automatic replacement for Ben Arfa then should be loaned imo.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 12:50:16 PM
Would be superb if the likes of him, Abeid and Gosling all step up this year.

With Nolan out of the way I don't see any reason why Vukic and Gosling can't be given the responsibility of replacing his goals. With Vukic, even if it's just coming off the bench to start with he should still be included, especially with HBA out for a while.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: matta on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 12:51:21 PM
Would be great if he could stay fit.



Really excited about our youngsters
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 01:34:08 PM
If he isn't seen as an automatic replacement for Ben Arfa then should be loaned imo.

That's a fair call.

I'm a bit excited about Vuckic, but with Ben Arfa out Vuckic is never going to get a better chance to show he can step up. If Pardew doesn't think he's up to Arsenal-Mackems, then a loan spell (even the three months mooted by others) is the way forward...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 01:46:15 PM
Excellent finish for the goal.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Aiston on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:24:24 PM
He is now my favourite player for friend requesting me on facebook and asking me to give him the metacafe video of the match!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 02:56:49 PM
Loved his goal like :smug:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 03:00:41 PM
I got a good view of it, stood up right as it left his foot, which was kind of awkward as I was the only one standing as it slowly bent in. Really good performance though. I'd hope this means we'll see him a few more times this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ginola on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 03:11:01 PM
Lovely striker for his goal, like.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JH on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 03:14:06 PM
Wor 'Vuckey' did alright like. His goal was lush.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: alexf on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 04:36:03 PM
From last year's pre-season goals and the 2 this year, plus clips of him scoring in training, he really does look a decent finisher. Clearly a number 10/off the striker so god knows why in all this senior appearances last year he was put in centre-mid every time.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 04:51:18 PM
From last year's pre-season goals and the 2 this year, plus clips of him scoring in training, he really does look a decent finisher. Clearly a number 10/off the striker so god knows why in all this senior appearances last year he was put in centre-mid every time.

Because we've always played 4-4-2?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 04:56:26 PM
Tasty goal, can' believe he's still only 18, I thought he should have made it by now!

If we're going to play 4-4-2 less he might get more chances in the hole. Hope he progresses anyway, we obviously rate the lad.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:13:50 PM
Who was the last Toon player to bend one into the top corner like that ?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:14:11 PM
Who was the last Toon player to bend one into the top corner like that ?

Joey Barton vs Villa iirc
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:16:18 PM
Who was the last Toon player to bend one into the top corner like that ?

Joey Barton vs Villa iirc

Nope - he smashed that, did not bend it
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:17:02 PM
N'Zogbia away at M'boro 2007
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ginola on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:17:25 PM
Jonas vs Blackpool
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SteveMc on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:18:20 PM
Jonas vs Blackpool
brum  or wolves ?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:21:57 PM
Jonas vs Blackpool

Barnsley wasn't it?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ginola on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:21:59 PM
No, Blackpool. In the Championship. The one he bent into bottom corner was against Wolves though.

EDIT: Doubting myself now :lol: Pretty sure it was Blackpool.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Theregulars on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:27:40 PM
No, Blackpool. In the Championship. The one he bent into bottom corner was against Wolves though.

EDIT: Doubting myself now :lol: Pretty sure it was Blackpool.

Barnsley
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skeletor on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:27:44 PM
No, Blackpool. In the Championship. The one he bent into bottom corner was against Wolves though.

EDIT: Doubting myself now :lol: Pretty sure it was Blackpool.

Was Barnsley
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ginola on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:29:28 PM
Fair play. Jonas vs Barnsley then
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:32:05 PM
The goal he got against Blackpool took a big deflection and went in the bottom corner
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:36:19 PM
Owen at West Ham?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ginola on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:36:21 PM
Aye, you're right, I remember it now. My mistake :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:41:21 PM
What a nice goal from him  :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Kasper on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 05:54:30 PM
The good old "Biggest bender" discussion...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 27 July 2011, 10:35:48 PM
Raylor versus Palace was very similar to this goal
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: WashyGeordie on Thursday 28 July 2011, 02:02:26 PM
What a nice goal from him  :thup:

 :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beren on Sunday 31 July 2011, 03:41:54 PM
Hopefully Pardew (or whoever is picking the team) won't be afraid to take to take risks if he is outperforming his peers.

In any case, good to hear some hunger, appetite and confidence. :)

Doing fantastically in pre-season...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JH on Sunday 31 July 2011, 03:42:56 PM
Really really impressed with him.

A few youngsters starting to shine through into first team plans - exciting stuff.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 31 July 2011, 03:43:33 PM
He's pushing for a first-team spot. Take note please, Pardew.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 31 July 2011, 03:43:53 PM
I think its about time we start playing him, would love to see him play as an attacking midfielder/2nd striker, seems to have the bulit and the technique to really be good in the position.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Sunday 31 July 2011, 03:52:10 PM
Best option to play off Ba if we're playing 1 up front.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 31 July 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Hope to see him at home against some of the lesser sides, when frankly Jonas is usually as much use as a traffic cone on casters.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mike on Sunday 31 July 2011, 03:58:42 PM
He's pushing for a first-team spot. Take note please, Pardew.

 :pards:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:03:48 PM
Happy to see he's had a good pre season. :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:04:24 PM
Absolutely no reason to go into next season playing the likes of Lovenkrands and Ameobi ahead of him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:04:45 PM
What sort of player is he, then? Has got pace? Can he open up defences?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mike on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:07:11 PM
Absolutely no reason to go into next season playing the likes of Lovenkrands and Ameobi ahead of him.

:lol: I agree, but you just know we'll barely see him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:14:20 PM
On current form, playing off Ba against Arsenal?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JH on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:14:45 PM
On current form, playing off Ba against Arsenal?

Wouldn't say no like.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:15:37 PM
On current form, playing off Ba against Arsenal?

If we're playing one off the striker it really shouldn't be anyone else
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:17:06 PM
On current form, playing off Ba against Arsenal?

If we're playing one off the striker it really shouldn't be anyone else

is this assuming Ben Arfa is unfit?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:18:37 PM
On current form, playing off Ba against Arsenal?

If we're playing one off the striker it really shouldn't be anyone else

is this assuming Ben Arfa is unfit?

I thought we knew Ben Arfa was missing the first 2 games?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:22:52 PM
On current form, playing off Ba against Arsenal?

I'm sorry. Yes we know he's not going to be playing against the gunners - i wasn't aware that we were talking just about that game.

If we're playing one off the striker it really shouldn't be anyone else

is this assuming Ben Arfa is unfit?

I thought we knew Ben Arfa was missing the first 2 games?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Adam^ on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Any news on squad numbers yet? Haris still going to be 29 this season?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Smal on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:39:33 PM
No way Pards will start Vuckic against Arsenal, like. It'll be Ameobi and Ba
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:42:44 PM
Ameobi and Ba. :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Punk77 on Sunday 31 July 2011, 04:53:43 PM
The lad was brilliant today. Nice ball control, and once again he delivered a precise cross which Best would have converted if it wasn't for Barton.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: NEEJ on Sunday 31 July 2011, 05:09:36 PM
Did he score today? What was it like?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Punk77 on Sunday 31 July 2011, 05:14:28 PM
Did he score today? What was it like?

A well hit through ball from Raylor which Sammy(?) picked up on the leeds' right side foul line. He played it back to Vukic inside Leeds box. He smashed it home between keeper's legs. Nice play.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: CPL on Sunday 31 July 2011, 05:18:33 PM
Ameobi and Ba. :lol:

Hope not
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: clintdempsey on Sunday 31 July 2011, 06:16:46 PM
Good interview with Haris up on NufcTV. He seems a really good lad. His enthusiasm for the game shines through and you can tell that he absolutely loves it right now. It's nice to see the spirit of the young lads IMO, balances up the doom & gloom of this pre-season a fair bit.

Gets a wee bit boring just listening to rants from senior pros and various fans slagging each other and/or the club off.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Hope he stays fit, could play a bigger part than expected this season. Sounds promising anyway, could be starting to look the player he was talked up as :)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:25:17 PM
Hope he stays fit, could play a bigger part than expected this season. Sounds promising anyway, could be starting to look the player he was talked up as :)

Just about sums up half our squad.

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:25:39 PM
True :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:25:43 PM
Great to see him come over to the fans at full time when everyone else headed down the tunnel and give his shirt to an old bloke in the crowd. He looked genuinely chuffed when he scored too, he acknowledged and celebrated with the fans again.

Absolute class act on and off the pitch this lad.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: je85 on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:26:04 PM
Fingers crossed he can get a good injury free spell racking up plenty of 1st team sub minutes and even some full cup games perhaps.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:29:40 PM
Great to see him come over to the fans at full time when everyone else headed down the tunnel and give his shirt to an old bloke in the crowd. He looked genuinely chuffed when he scored too, he acknowledged and celebrated with the fans again.

Absolute class act on and off the pitch this lad.

Depressing to hear.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:33:35 PM
Great to see him come over to the fans at full time when everyone else headed down the tunnel and give his shirt to an old bloke in the crowd. He looked genuinely chuffed when he scored too, he acknowledged and celebrated with the fans again.

Absolute class act on and off the pitch this lad.

Depressing to hear.

It wasn't as bad as I painted it to be fair. They all acknowledged the fans at full time as per usual, I was just very impressed with Vuckic.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:36:08 PM
Great to see him come over to the fans at full time when everyone else headed down the tunnel and give his shirt to an old bloke in the crowd. He looked genuinely chuffed when he scored too, he acknowledged and celebrated with the fans again.

Absolute class act on and off the pitch this lad.

Depressing to hear.

It wasn't as bad as I painted it to be fair. They all acknowledged the fans at full time as per usual, I was just very impressed with Vuckic.

Ah okay, that's alreet.

One of my gripes though, when players bugger off down the tunnell without so much as an acknowledgement. Like to think that genuinely our players have reasonable rapport with the fans.

As for Haris, I just really hope he doesn't get another injury. Looking like it could be his breakthrough year this season, he has the talent and attitude to make the most of his opportunity it seems.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:41:43 PM
Super PR machine Mehdi Abeid is blatantly rubbing off on Vuckic :pow:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Sunday 31 July 2011, 07:57:12 PM
I had actually written Vuckic off as a failure until a month ago.  Now I think we should defo play a 4-4-1-1 formation even if Barfa is injured with Wee Harry behind Ba.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Sunday 31 July 2011, 08:09:21 PM
I had actually written Vuckic off as a failure until a month ago.  Now I think we should defo play a 4-4-1-1 formation even if Barfa is injured with Wee Harry behind Ba.

"wee Harry"??  have you seen him,  he's a big lad!!!

With HBA out and Marveaux looking like he's still not 100% i'd be tempted to play him off the striker(his natural postition) against Arsenal.  Once the season gets up and running and HBA and Marveaux are fit i expect Haris to take over from Ranger as the impact sub.  As long as he stays fit i think he'll get plenty minutes on the pitch.   
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Monday 1 August 2011, 12:06:30 AM
A massive positive from today was Vuckic's performance.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: p_cowell141 on Sunday 7 August 2011, 12:42:31 AM
After Cabaye, Vuckic's pre-season performances have been genuinely uplifting through all the calamity and chaos. Really hope the lad continues to do well, and presses for a first team spot; it's great seeing someone who has a bit of flair and creativity about him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 7 August 2011, 12:59:50 AM
Massively impressed with him over the pre-season. We've seen his eye for goal with three in three (i'm counting Orlando tbh)... but today also showed me that he can be a real team player. As i mentioned in the match thread, he offered himself all over the park and looked to have real drive and purpose on the ball. He's rough around the edges, obviously, but i forget the guy's 18. And that's not only cos he's a bit of a giant.

One of the brightest points of pre-season. Don't want to drop into the "it's like another signing" cliche... but given the fact he hasn't played in the first team prior to this season, and given the fact i expect him to this year... it's certainly another 'addition'.

I wouldn't be disappointed to see him start off Ba against Arsenal, let's put it that way. But i'd say that's fairly unlikely.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ChrisMcQuillan on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:03:42 AM
If nothing else, he seems to have cemented himself in Pardew's first team squad.

Can only be a good thing to have that option.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:07:50 AM
Could be his year. Him and Ben Arfa for the AMC/withdrawn striker position (good cover, and will get his chances)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:08:43 AM
If nothing else, he seems to have cemented himself in Pardew's first team squad.

Can only be a good thing to have that option.

I think so too. One of the positives to take from this pre-season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:09:20 AM
No more Smith, ever.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:09:35 AM
No more Smith, ever.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JH on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:10:40 AM
Delighted to see some of the younger talent getting game time this pre-season - Vuckic has certainly been the highlight of them.

Just hope it carries into the season. Would love to see him get some game time in the Premier League - test his quality.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:11:21 AM
Basically if we're not going to buy players then we have to hope that the kids make an impact (and we don't sell them the instant they do). Heartened by Vuckic so far this year, just hope he can stay fit.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:12:53 AM
Basically if we're not going to buy players then we have to hope that the kids make an impact (and we don't sell them the instant they do). Heartened by Vuckic so far this year, just hope he can stay fit.

Agree. I'd still like us to sign another defender, but I quite like the look of Tavernier and although I'd like to see him on the wing, Ferguson will suffice as a back-up left back. There's also Dummett who's apparently promising.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: alexf on Sunday 7 August 2011, 01:23:54 AM
He's a big lad for his age so that should defiantly help him in the premiership. I just hope if he has a bad game here and there that he's not just taken out of the first team completely
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 7 August 2011, 08:04:37 AM
That's the thing I am impressed about with Pardew, he wants the kids playing whether It's on loan or with us. Maybe It's part of his remit but we have neglected this side for ages and tended to just let the kids sit in the reserves forever.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Begbie on Sunday 14 August 2011, 03:45:14 PM
why didnt he make the squad for the arsenal game? is he injured ?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Saturday 20 August 2011, 10:39:40 PM
Does anyone else feel that Vukic should at least be on the bench? I've got a feeling we might end up loaning him out but I get the feeling he could provide real goal threat. Nothing against Obertan but Vukic knows how to attack the penalty area and that's something we are missing in our side at the moment. I hope he starts against Scunthorpe and gets a goal because his good work in pre-season seems to have been ignored.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ikon on Saturday 20 August 2011, 10:48:27 PM
And why was Loven on the bench ahead of him?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taps01 on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:21:56 PM
And why was Loven on the bench ahead of him?

This for me is why we need to sell loven. We shouldn't have someone like him stopping our youngsters progressing.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:22:54 PM
I imagine Pardew wants some of last season's characters around the squad while we're still sort of in transition.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:27:25 PM
Tbf, as much as I think Loven is s***, his conversion rate last season was pretty good and a manager will be a lot more cautious than the rest of us so I can see why he would take the 'safe bet' rather than the gamble.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SimplyAnth on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:28:47 PM
I thought he'd at least be making the Bench tbh.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:31:29 PM
He had an awfully impressive preseason, as did Abeid. I thought they would both be seen more, especially as Pardew seems like a managed more intent on giving youth a chance.

My possibly misguided hope is that we are planning another couple of signings so they will be too far down the pecking order and loaned out for experience.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JH on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:34:05 PM
Can't see where Abeid/Vuckic would be making the squad in its current stage (except for maybe Lovenkrands) and they'll be even less likely to if we bring in another striker and LB.

They're youngsters and they'll feature in the cups and when we have injuries. Don't think they expect anything else.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:35:22 PM
Thought Abeid might give Guthrie a bit of competition. That said I am only going off what others said during preseason.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: QBG on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:38:50 PM
We'll see him on Thursday imo.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JH on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:42:35 PM
1. Krul
2. Simpson
3. S.Taylor
4. Coloccini
5. R.Taylor
6. Barton
7. Cabaye
8. Tiote
9. Gutierrez
10. Obertan
11. Ameobi

12. Harper
13. Williamson
14. Gosling
15. Marveaux
16. Lovenkrands
17. Best
18. Ba

19. HBA
20. New LB
21. New CF

22. Ferguson
23. Guthrie
24. Vuckic
25. Abeid
26. Sam Ameobi
27. Perch
28. Smith
29. Ranger

Hard to fit them in when everyone's fit really.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:46:27 PM
There´s no need for three strikers on the bench. Don´t understand it either why he isn´t making the bench.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: McLoven#11 on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:48:41 PM
There´s no need for three strikers on the bench. Don´t understand it either why he isn´t making the bench.

Maybe, he will use Loven like winger...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SimplyAnth on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:49:23 PM
It's just that he featured regularly during pre-season and performed very well. Probably deserves a chance coming off the bench, regardless of age.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beren on Saturday 20 August 2011, 11:57:16 PM
Can't see where Abeid/Vuckic would be making the squad in its current stage (except for maybe Lovenkrands) and they'll be even less likely to if we bring in another striker and LB.

They're youngsters and they'll feature in the cups and when we have injuries. Don't think they expect anything else.

What's that got to do with anything?

Vuckic outperformed his older contemporaries in pre-season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: JH on Sunday 21 August 2011, 12:11:52 AM
What's that got to do with anything?

They're young so don't have to break into the first team right now. His time will come.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 21 August 2011, 12:21:37 AM
There´s no need for three strikers on the bench. Don´t understand it either why he isn´t making the bench.

Maybe, he will use Loven like winger...

We had Marveux on the bench for that, and Gosling who has played a bit on the wing as well. I just don´t see the logic of dropping him from the squad to accommodate three strikers on the bench. Hes been here since 2009, and have impressed in pre-season and gets praise from a lot of people in the club, so he must be doing something right in training as well. What more does he have to do?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 21 August 2011, 12:28:55 AM
Happy birthday.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 21 August 2011, 12:39:01 AM
Where the f*** is Haris?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Disco on Sunday 21 August 2011, 12:41:08 AM
If he's not going to make the squad get him out on loan. I'd play him in the cup mind.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ohmelads on Monday 22 August 2011, 06:42:55 AM
No need for Ba, Best and Loven on the same bench. Vuckic has earned a shot from the bench, quite surprising he's missed both squads to accommodate three forwards.

He has to get a chance against Scunthorpe, I'd start him for that game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 22 August 2011, 09:40:13 AM
Agree, we should put him on against Scunthorpe :thup: want to see him given a chance this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr Venkman on Monday 22 August 2011, 09:47:12 AM
Vuckic and Ba up front for Scunthorpe please
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Monday 22 August 2011, 09:56:24 AM
Not sure why people thought he'd be near the first team, like.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taxfree on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:05:34 AM
Not sure why people thought he'd be near the first team, like.

May be because he played a lot in pre-season, and did very well.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr Venkman on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:07:53 AM
and because he's well suited to the position ben arfa is supposedly gonna play? and because we've got little else up front
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:09:00 AM
and because he's well suited to the position ben arfa is supposedly gonna play? and because we've got little else up front

We've got quite a lot of options up front, albeit s*** ones.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr Venkman on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:10:04 AM
and because he's well suited to the position ben arfa is supposedly gonna play? and because we've got little else up front

We've got quite a lot of options up front, albeit s*** ones.

exactly
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:11:40 AM
He's not going to get on the bench ahead of them, though. Was always the case.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taxfree on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:13:17 AM
He's not going to get on the bench ahead of them, though. Was always the case.

Shouldn't be. Loven out - Vuckic in - seems clever in every way.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:24:59 AM
He's not going to get on the bench ahead of them, though. Was always the case.

When we've not looked like creating chances never mind scoring goals, we should explore every avenue possible in that area. Vukic, whatever his age, is one of the few players in our squad who will home in on goal with single minded purpose. Best and Ba are probably the others.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Monday 22 August 2011, 10:26:37 AM
Well, yeah- I'd much rather have him than Loven or Shola. Can't see it happening though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: LooneyToonArmy on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:08:15 AM
Haris Vuckic is hoping to make further strides in his Newcastle career at Scunthorpe tonight.

If he did make a breakthrough this year, it would be a well-deserved reward for a player who has put his all into his English move.

Homesick at first, his father was a constant crutch and companion as he went through the settling-in process in his new North East home.

But now so much a Geordie that he admits he “hates Sunderland” like the rest of the Toon Army, Vuckic is ready for the next leap forward.

Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/08/25/haris-vuckic-will-get-his-chance-to-shine-61634-29298288/2/#ixzz1W1gCuQHD
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:10:08 AM
Good work Dino, Lad!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:21:11 AM
Good work Dino, Lad!

 :lol: it worked!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BooBoo on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:25:28 AM
Would be a huge wasted opportunity if he doesn't start tonight.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:30:28 AM
Sure he'll start tonight, no reason why he wouldn't really.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: nobby_solano on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:39:16 AM
I'd reckon he'll start like. Wonder if he's any good at left back...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Thursday 25 August 2011, 12:01:55 PM
Think he'll come off the bench
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 25 August 2011, 12:06:18 PM
He'll definitely be moved in some capacity tonight. But I hope he starts.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Flip on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:45:27 PM
Think he's been very good so far. Really changed the game together with Sammy. Should probably start against Fulham behind Shola or Best or Ba or whatever on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:46:16 PM
Very self confident
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Oakie Doke on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:50:25 PM
he really needs to be at least involved in matches. Should be on sub bench v Fulham.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 25 August 2011, 09:56:26 PM
So comfortable on the ball, Sammeobi has looked the more dangerous imo but Haris looks the more 'polished' player by far.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:01:52 PM
Think he'll come off the bench

:snod:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:24:39 PM
I like this lad, in terms of style of play reminds me of RVP. He isn't very quick but good technically and has a nice touch.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: M1tche on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:25:38 PM
looks like a classy player. looking forward to seeing more of this lad soon.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jayson on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:26:18 PM
Should be ahead of Gosling in the pecking order tbh
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Numbers on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:26:28 PM
did well, looked classy and chased like feck.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ginola on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:27:52 PM
Looks very composed on the ball. Did well when he came on, certainly showed some of his potential. :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: palnese on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:28:52 PM
Haris Zahovic
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:29:25 PM
Haris Zahovic

What a player he was.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Recoba on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:30:05 PM
Not great tonight but I like him a lot.

Should have started ahead of Loven.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: CaPiTaL cHaP on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:46:28 PM
Thought he did pretty well considering. Love the fact he's prepared to throw himself about a bit.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:48:18 PM
He is a good footballer. Needs games ahead of the useless players
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:49:09 PM
Reminds me of Carroll the way he runs.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Neil on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:49:47 PM
Impressed, tonight. Hopefully given more game time, because he certainly justifies it.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beren on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:50:56 PM
Like the way he takes charge and wants the ball, and to make things happen. :thup: When Tiote goes away for ACN, I really hope Pardew puts Vuckic in with Cabaye. Would at the very least be a fierce midfield!

Would like him to start next game, but I'm dreaming :)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Keefaz on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:51:46 PM
Runs like a f***ing ent.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: tmonkey on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:54:08 PM
Looked alright, but needs to know his limitations. Don't think he's fast enough to be trying to beat defenders in the manner that he did.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:56:11 PM
Showed some touches but by god he's got no pace. No pace at all.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 25 August 2011, 10:58:54 PM
I'm confident when he has the ball at his feet. Not sure who I last thought that about.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:02:10 PM
Looks a bit tougher now. Ultimately think he might be suited to central midfield. Not really that mobile, but great touch, awareness and passing.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:04:55 PM
I'm confident when he has the ball at his feet. Not sure who I last thought that about.

Sammy?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:05:47 PM
Should be ahead of Gosling in the pecking order tbh

This. A different class of footballer if a little raw.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:06:06 PM
Very impressed with him tonight. He really is ready for the Premier League and I hope Pardew gives him a chance.

In Krul, Ferguson, Vuckic and Sammeobi we have some real talent. Ranger too, if he gas a major turnaround.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: fraser on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:10:05 PM
I thought that he was v good tonight; how much will we get for him?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:11:18 PM
Looked alright, but needs to know his limitations. Don't think he's fast enough to be trying to beat defenders in the manner that he did.

Gazza wasn't fast but he could take the p*ss out of most opponents, Vuckic needs games and he's good enough to get them.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:13:33 PM
Excellent display tonight  :clap: hope he get's a few starts this year.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRon on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:15:02 PM
He did overdo the tricks a few times but he's young and confident. Let him iron out his mistakes and we'll have a gem of a player. Our football improved 100% when him and Sammy came on.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:28:21 PM
Why does he always looked shocked? :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:29:01 PM
Why does he always looked shocked? :lol:

Playing with Sammy.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:29:16 PM
I really like him, he's good to watch. Very classy on the ball, maybe just lacks the physical explosiveness but he might develop that more.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Frazzle on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:30:17 PM
I don't think he'll develop that much more physically Ian, he's a big lad already.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:31:15 PM
I don't think he'll develop that much more physically Ian, he's a big lad already.

I mean in terms of acceleration and athleticism, not necessarily size. You might be right though, he might just not be naturally quick. Still think he has enough to make it in the Premier League.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:31:28 PM
he played wll tonight mind.

had looked anonymous in his other first team outings but was all over the shop tonight.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:42:50 PM
I love the fact he gets on so well with the likes of Sammy and Abeid. Having a good crop of promising youngsters that like each other and work well together is cum inducing
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:44:48 PM
I love the fact he gets on so well with the likes of Sammy and Abeid. Having a good crop of promising youngsters that like each other and work well together is cum inducing

Was with you until that bit! :lol:

:harry:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: palnese on Thursday 25 August 2011, 11:44:51 PM
So much better in a three-man-midfield, than in a plain 4-4-2.

He's going to be a great player...













for someone else :troll:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Zero on Friday 26 August 2011, 03:12:11 AM
He should train up his crossing.   With such a powerful left leg, his crossing's quality is quite bad to be honest.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: KaKa on Friday 26 August 2011, 03:38:01 AM
I don't think he'll develop that much more physically Ian, he's a big lad already.

I mean in terms of acceleration and athleticism, not necessarily size. You might be right though, he might just not be naturally quick. Still think he has enough to make it in the Premier League.

Agree. However, if he can develop as a central midfielder it won't matter as much.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: toontownman on Friday 26 August 2011, 03:46:04 AM
Nice effort today, should get plenty more chances this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lush Vlad on Friday 26 August 2011, 08:33:54 AM
Looked assured and wanted the ball, unlike a few of our so called senior players.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Matt on Friday 26 August 2011, 08:48:23 AM
He needs to keep things simple. He looks a tidy enough player that he doesn't need to resort to too many tricks on the ball, which cost possession a couple of times last night. Easily the best game I've seen for us- light years ahead of his baptism of fire at Peterborough two years ago.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 26 August 2011, 08:52:32 AM
First time i have really seen him, looks a good player like.   Impressed.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 26 August 2011, 08:52:56 AM
He needs to keep things simple. He looks a tidy enough player that he doesn't need to resort to too many tricks on the ball, which cost possession a couple of times last night. Easily the best game I've seen for us- light years ahead of his baptism of fire at Peterborough two years ago.

That will come in time tho.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Friday 26 August 2011, 09:25:05 AM
He needs to keep things simple. He looks a tidy enough player that he doesn't need to resort to too many tricks on the ball, which cost possession a couple of times last night. Easily the best game I've seen for us- light years ahead of his baptism of fire at Peterborough two years ago.
Disagree, I think we should be encouraging flair when we have a player who has the ability to produce it.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: biggs on Friday 26 August 2011, 09:54:43 AM
He needs to keep things simple. He looks a tidy enough player that he doesn't need to resort to too many tricks on the ball, which cost possession a couple of times last night. Easily the best game I've seen for us- light years ahead of his baptism of fire at Peterborough two years ago.
I was going to say the same thing,lost possesion in extra time twice i think when he should have calmed down a bit but definatly bench material in future and starting games if need be .
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Flip on Friday 26 August 2011, 04:12:38 PM
What I like about him is the fact that you can se he's a good footballer with great potential. He does the right thing most of the time, what he lacks is experience and that will only come with time.

He picks out some great passes with his vision and I think with more mobile players he would thrive. Give him time now that Ben Arfa is away, no point in putting ihm on the bench, let him start we got absolutely nothing to lose since we have underperforming player right now.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skeletor on Friday 26 August 2011, 04:46:36 PM
First time I've ever seen him put in a performance. Has to be ahead of Lovenkrands purely on that basis.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: thenige on Friday 26 August 2011, 04:48:01 PM
Looked good pre-season and looks like he's continued that. Just always seems to want the ball which is a big plus, hope he gets more chances as the season goes on.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 26 August 2011, 04:50:36 PM
What i love about him is that i don't have to worry when the ball is at his feet, i know he'll do the right thing, i'm really excited about him and hope we start using him a bit more.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Friday 26 August 2011, 05:03:42 PM
With Barton going, there's really no excuse for him not being on the bench anymore.

Until he gets injured again.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: James on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:01:42 PM
Good cameo.

I saw him clutching his hand immediately after he had given away that free kick.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: wormy on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:05:29 PM
With Barton going, there's really no excuse for him not being on the bench anymore.

Until he gets injured again.

Prophet.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:09:35 PM
Really feel sorry for him, he seemed to be finding his feet then he got his injury, bothered me a bit and took some joy off winning.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nordstrom on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:11:23 PM
If he's gotten a hand injury I'm not too worried. I expect to see him back on the bench soon enough.

Good to see that Pardew is willing to blood our youngsters in league matches as well.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lenny on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:12:38 PM
If he's gotten a hand injury I'm not too worried. I expect to see him back on the bench soon enough.

Good to see that Pardew is willing to blood our youngsters in league matches as well.

Depends if he's broken his wrist or something, they can keep you out a while... Hopefully nothing serious, I really like the look of him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:13:09 PM
Wrist injury = serious, finger injury = not serious.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Shayno on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:13:15 PM
If he had to pick up another injury, i'm glad it was a hand injury. Good to see him get some time and hopefully it will continue throughout the season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: James on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:14:40 PM
Wrist injury = serious, finger injury = not serious.

I saw him manipulating his hand, so wrist is doubtful.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: bimpy474 on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:15:42 PM
Wrist injury = serious, finger injury = not serious.

Broke a bone in his hand apparently.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: George Bailey on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:17:34 PM
Wrist injury = serious, finger injury = not serious.

Unless you're a Spanish centre half.

Hope the young lad is back sooner rather than later, could be a real bright light this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: thenige on Sunday 28 August 2011, 03:29:49 PM
Gutted for him today, fair play to Pards for turning to him instead of bloody Smith.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Sunday 28 August 2011, 05:24:29 PM
Looked like he'd brokedn his wrist. he was in agony when they were looking at it next to the tunnel and he went down the tunnel as soon as Smith was told to go on.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: HawK on Sunday 28 August 2011, 05:26:38 PM
I'll have you know on good authority, a well broken finger can keep a player out for a season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taxfree on Sunday 28 August 2011, 05:28:55 PM
Righto.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 28 August 2011, 05:34:06 PM
GK innit.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: icemanblue on Sunday 28 August 2011, 05:42:46 PM
Didn't want to come off but the physio was having none of it. Was in tears as he walked down the tunnel, so it may be a nasty one.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 28 August 2011, 05:50:09 PM
Unlucky kid.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tsunami on Sunday 28 August 2011, 05:50:18 PM
Nearly ended Marcelino's career.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: SiLvOR on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:06:12 PM
Didn't want to come off but the physio was having none of it. Was in tears as he walked down the tunnel, so it may be a nasty one.

Seriously? f***. Hope he's okay, the times I've seen him so far this season, he's looked so much better then that kid back at Peterbrough. Genuinley hope he can kick on this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TherealnorthernTOON on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:08:00 PM
He really shows class at times with the ball, hope he gets well soon and the injuries stays clean for him for a year. With game time in the premier league he could really blossom into a massive player.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:20:57 PM
@Sammy_Ameobi Samuel Ameobi
Thinking about Haris Vuckic...hope you recover soon pal x
1 minute ago


:undecided:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:22:28 PM
Broken hand.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:22:35 PM
@Sammy_Ameobi Samuel Ameobi
Thinking about Haris Vuckic...hope you recover soon pal x
1 minute ago


:undecided:

RIP Haris :(
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:22:52 PM
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiite.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:23:46 PM
Ahhh gay.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: arnonel on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:24:08 PM
For the most part he can still stay fit and do some training, just not contact, right?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:24:30 PM
How long will that mean he's out for?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:24:31 PM
Just give him a kick ass bandage and he'll be fine.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: geordie jamie on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:25:07 PM
Cant he play with a light weight cast if its his hand?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:25:47 PM
Month out or so?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Fenham Mag on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:28:12 PM
His family were in the crowd today, they had the Slovenian flag.


Broken hand shouldnt keep him out for too long like. Lucky the international break is here.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taxfree on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:30:57 PM
Month out or so?

Had a cast on for four weeks when I broke my wrist. My break was "clean" though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nobody on Sunday 28 August 2011, 06:31:17 PM
@Sammy_Ameobi Samuel Ameobi
Thinking about Haris Vuckic...hope you recover soon pal x
1 minute ago


:undecided:
Sammy is class :)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:01:38 PM


Had a cast on for four weeks when I broke my wrist. My break was "clean" though.

I had a cast on for 15 weeks when I broke a small bone in my hand, I could do anything after 2 to 3 days, including playing football.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taxfree on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:14:15 PM


Had a cast on for four weeks when I broke my wrist. My break was "clean" though.

I had a cast on for 15 weeks when I broke a small bone in my hand, I could do anything after 2 to 3 days, including playing football.

I was told two weeks without football.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dr Venkman on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:20:57 PM
what rotten f***ing luck. alan smith might get time on the pitch this season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ameritoon on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:22:41 PM
Surely it can't be more than two weeks if it's just a hand injury.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: WashyGeordie on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:24:48 PM
Actually looked good when he came on for 10mins, and as a team we looked more threatening... then he went straight back off and we conceded.

I blame Alan f***ing Smith!  :smug:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Chase on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:47:24 PM
Feel sorry for the lad, I watched him play for the first time on Thursday and was really looking forward to seeing more of him in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Toon Hoser on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:54:35 PM
Slovenians are made of beautiful, delicate crystal.   :sadnod:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:55:29 PM
Nufc.com said "suffering what looked like a dislocated finger". How do we know it's a broken hand? 16 days healing time to the next fixture. I guess he could wear one of those light weight casts?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 28 August 2011, 07:58:09 PM
How do we know it's a broken hand?

Sammy has spoken.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: eliassenfredrik on Sunday 28 August 2011, 10:06:08 PM
He'll be like a new signing when he returns.








Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: cubaricho on Monday 29 August 2011, 03:31:31 AM
A month out for a broken hand? Come on.  Man up and get back on the pitch after the break.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Monday 29 August 2011, 02:50:18 PM
Hopefully he'll be back after the international break.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Fenham Mag on Monday 5 September 2011, 12:14:05 PM
Haris Vučkić
Thanks everyone for support* hand is okey, thanks God* start train soon* :))
Have a nice day* :))
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Keith on Monday 5 September 2011, 12:32:48 PM
Good news.  Lovely piece of skill from him in the 5 minutes he was on the pitch flicking the ball back to Obertan.
Think he will have a good season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: sportnet on Monday 5 September 2011, 12:32:53 PM
Than God!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Toon Hoser on Monday 5 September 2011, 03:14:59 PM
Haris Vučkić
Thanks everyone for support* hand is okey, thanks God* start train soon* :))
Have a nice day* :))

Does he have a Twitter account?  I can't find it.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Monday 5 September 2011, 03:15:44 PM
It's Facebook. :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Toon Hoser on Monday 5 September 2011, 03:18:49 PM
Thanks.  

This one is obviously a fake, but amusing:

http://twitter.com/#!/HarisVuckic (http://twitter.com/#!/HarisVuckic)

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Monday 5 September 2011, 03:58:02 PM
Haris Vučkić
Thanks everyone for support* hand is okey, thanks God* start train soon* :))
Have a nice day* :))

Good news :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 7 September 2011, 12:51:06 PM
Back in training in three weeks.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Saturday 10 September 2011, 11:42:09 AM
Have been giving him a run as a striker on FM and he's scoring goals for fun. He is immense.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Sunday 11 September 2011, 10:51:27 AM
Have been giving him a run as a striker on FM and he's scoring goals for fun. He is immense.
:thup: He's an FM god :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 22 September 2011, 08:57:05 PM
Back in training on monday.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 22 September 2011, 09:00:29 PM
Can't believe it took that long for a hand injury.
Title: Re: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 22 September 2011, 09:02:12 PM
Back in training on monday.

Nice :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 22 September 2011, 09:02:37 PM
Santon and Vuckic to be back next week. Options increasing :fwap:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Thursday 22 September 2011, 09:04:09 PM
About time someone else got injured.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Thursday 22 September 2011, 09:05:08 PM
With all the w*** fest and tissues flying around over the frenchies, forgot about Haris.  Welcome back lad.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 22 September 2011, 09:08:33 PM
About time someone else got injured.

Aye. :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tiresias on Thursday 6 October 2011, 12:54:37 PM
did he pay no part of the reserves game? Liked the look of this guy
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Big Geordie on Thursday 6 October 2011, 12:59:05 PM
Got his autograph for the bairn, through some mutual friends. Top lad - hope he stays injury free!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ashley17 on Thursday 6 October 2011, 01:53:17 PM
did he pay no part of the reserves game? Liked the look of this guy

He's away with Slovenia
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 6 October 2011, 02:22:31 PM
About time someone else got injured.

Knowing our luck it will be Colo or Cabaye  :frantic:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 6 October 2011, 04:21:33 PM
Playing for Slovenia vs Sweden tonight, I'm guessing?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: RupertCommunicator on Thursday 6 October 2011, 07:36:40 PM
About time someone else got injured.

As long as it's Perch, Smith, Lovenkrands, Elliot, Ranger (hopefully fatally) or Shameobi it'd be an actual bonus.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 6 October 2011, 09:36:31 PM
http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2013/matches/round=2000192/match=2006812/index.html (http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2013/matches/round=2000192/match=2006812/index.html)

Played 45 mins. Dats all I know.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 6 October 2011, 09:39:56 PM
http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2013/matches/round=2000192/match=2006812/index.html (http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2013/matches/round=2000192/match=2006812/index.html)

Played 45 mins. Dats all I know.
Milosevic, the lad who scored for Sweden is going to be an amazing CB in a few years. Only 19 years old, but he's been a rock in our defence all season.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Thursday 6 October 2011, 09:52:29 PM
http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2013/matches/round=2000192/match=2006812/index.html (http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2013/matches/round=2000192/match=2006812/index.html)

Played 45 mins. Dats all I know.

Got an assist  :clap:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 6 October 2011, 10:04:50 PM
:thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 17 October 2011, 08:16:25 PM
Back at the reserves tommorw,i'm still gutted about how bad his last first team apperance went for him, hopefully he won't let it get to him and will keep on improving.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beren on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:47:02 PM
Don't think this has been picked up elsewhere.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7304019/Vuckic-eyes-January-loan (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7304019/Vuckic-eyes-January-loan)

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Vuckic eyes January loan

Slovenian youngster Haris Vuckic has admitted that he will probably leave Newcastle United on loan in January.

The 19-year-old attacker has made just one Premier League appearance this season, while he also played against Scunthorpe in the Carling Cup.

He is still regarded as a hot prospect for the future on Tyneside and is set to benefit from first-team football elsewhere.

"It is true, there is something in these rumours," Vuckic told Nogomania.

"It is an option that is opening up for me. But first I will have to talk with my manager, my family. And then I will see what to do.

"I know I'm more than able to play in the Premiership, but sometimes you have to make one step backward to go two steps forward.

I want to prove myself, I want to get some more experience. I need a chance to play regularly but don't ask me about clubs - I don't know where I could be loaned."

Vuckic joined Newcastle from NK Domzale in 2009 and reportedly attracted interest from AC Milan at the time.

Shame he hasn't had a sniff, but with our form and the way Guthrie has stepped up since Tiote's injury it's understandable. Ferguson too. Hopefully, if we're sufficiently covered when Tiote goes to ACoN, he will get a chance to be loaned out to Wigan or something. Get some experience playing alongside Diame :shifty:

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:50:08 PM
Don't think this has been picked up elsewhere.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7304019/Vuckic-eyes-January-loan (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7304019/Vuckic-eyes-January-loan)

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Vuckic eyes January loan

Slovenian youngster Haris Vuckic has admitted that he will probably leave Newcastle United on loan in January.

The 19-year-old attacker has made just one Premier League appearance this season, while he also played against Scunthorpe in the Carling Cup.

He is still regarded as a hot prospect for the future on Tyneside and is set to benefit from first-team football elsewhere.

"It is true, there is something in these rumours," Vuckic told Nogomania.

"It is an option that is opening up for me. But first I will have to talk with my manager, my family. And then I will see what to do.

"I know I'm more than able to play in the Premiership, but sometimes you have to make one step backward to go two steps forward.

I want to prove myself, I want to get some more experience. I need a chance to play regularly but don't ask me about clubs - I don't know where I could be loaned."

Vuckic joined Newcastle from NK Domzale in 2009 and reportedly attracted interest from AC Milan at the time.

Shame he hasn't had a sniff, but with our form and the way Guthrie has stepped up since Tiote's injury it's understandable. Ferguson too. Hopefully, if we're sufficiently covered when Tiote goes to ACoN, he will get a chance to be loaned out to Wigan or something. Get some experience playing alongside Diame :shifty:


He has had a sniff though. Played well pre season and then at Scunthorpe earning him a place on the bench. Came on as sub and broke his arm within 5 minutes of coming on. If he'd not got injured he'd have played a fair bit this season, albeit from the bench.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:50:42 PM
Don't think so, like.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:51:04 PM
Played 90 minutes for the U-21s yesterday btw.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beren on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Fair point. Was looking forward to this being his breakthrough season after he outshone more senior players in pre-season. Still very young, but would be great for him to get more experience.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:54:06 PM
Don't think so, like.
Sammy Ameobi being given a chance after impressing suggests otherwise and suggests Pardew will play the young uns rather than just falling back on the likes of Smith like Hughton would have done.

he was being bigged up before he got injured and had enjoyed a decent pre season. he'd have got a few opportunities if it wasn't for his injury, but like i said it would have been like Sammy from the bench.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:55:38 PM
Don't think so, like.
Sammy Ameobi being given a chance after impressing suggests otherwise and suggests Pardew will play the young uns rather than just falling back on the likes of Smith like Hughton would have done.

he was being bigged up before he got injured and had enjoyed a decent pre season. he'd have got a few opportunities if it wasn't for his injury, but like i said it would have been like Sammy from the bench.

In the cups, of course. Don't think he'd have got much of a look in off the bench in the league, mind.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 11 November 2011, 10:56:23 PM
Don't think so, like.
Sammy Ameobi being given a chance after impressing suggests otherwise and suggests Pardew will play the young uns rather than just falling back on the likes of Smith like Hughton would have done.

he was being bigged up before he got injured and had enjoyed a decent pre season. he'd have got a few opportunities if it wasn't for his injury, but like i said it would have been like Sammy from the bench.

In the cups, of course. Don't think he'd have got much of a look in off the bench in the league, mind.

He got his injury coming off the bench in a Prmeier League game.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:00:08 PM
Aye, not sure he'd have stayed there for long with Shola and Barfa coming back from injury. Would have sent him out on loan this season personally.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:02:16 PM
Aye, not sure he'd have stayed there for long with Shola and Barfa coming back from injury. Would have sent him out on loan this season personally.
PMSL

Shola is a crock of s*** and Ben Arfa is struggling to regain fitness after a career threatening injury. had he not got injured he'd have got more than ample opportunities to show what he can do and would (in my john humble) edged ahead of both of those.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:03:37 PM
In case you hadn't noticed, Pardew is rather fond of Shola. And it happens to be Pardew selecting the team, not you or I  ;)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ujpest doza on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:06:06 PM
In case you hadn't noticed, Pardew is rather fond of Shola. And it happens to be Pardew selecting the team, not you or I  ;)
i honestly do not think Pardew has favourites, he is one of those rare managers who picks players on current form. hi shands have been tied slightly due to lack of numbers though.

Each to his own mind, i hate the c***.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:06:10 PM
Don't think this has been picked up elsewhere.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7304019/Vuckic-eyes-January-loan (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7304019/Vuckic-eyes-January-loan)

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Vuckic eyes January loan

Slovenian youngster Haris Vuckic has admitted that he will probably leave Newcastle United on loan in January.

The 19-year-old attacker has made just one Premier League appearance this season, while he also played against Scunthorpe in the Carling Cup.

He is still regarded as a hot prospect for the future on Tyneside and is set to benefit from first-team football elsewhere.

"It is true, there is something in these rumours," Vuckic told Nogomania.

"It is an option that is opening up for me. But first I will have to talk with my manager, my family. And then I will see what to do.

"I know I'm more than able to play in the Premiership, but sometimes you have to make one step backward to go two steps forward.

I want to prove myself, I want to get some more experience. I need a chance to play regularly but don't ask me about clubs - I don't know where I could be loaned."

Vuckic joined Newcastle from NK Domzale in 2009 and reportedly attracted interest from AC Milan at the time.

Shame he hasn't had a sniff, but with our form and the way Guthrie has stepped up since Tiote's injury it's understandable. Ferguson too. Hopefully, if we're sufficiently covered when Tiote goes to ACoN, he will get a chance to be loaned out to Wigan or something. Get some experience playing alongside Diame :shifty:



Don't mind Vuckic going out on loan at all. Hope he gets a proper chance when he comes back from wherever he is on loan.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:07:10 PM
In case you hadn't noticed, Pardew is rather fond of Shola. And it happens to be Pardew selecting the team, not you or I  ;)
i honestly do not think Pardew has favourites, he is one of those rare managers who picks players on current form. hi shands have been tied slightly due to lack of numbers though.

Each to his own mind, i hate the c***.

There was also no Gosling or Guthrie on the bench. I think we'd have been looking to get him out to a Championship club.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: binnsy on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:16:50 PM
That Vukcic story is basically just Haris repeating what Pardew has said about wanting to send the likes of Haris, Fergie and Abeid out on loan when the loan window reopens so they can get some experience.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TherealnorthernTOON on Friday 11 November 2011, 11:45:15 PM
This is essentially what I like about Pardew. He does everything down to the acadamy and up to the first team. He's so thorough in his work and is really determined to be a good premiership manager. Long may he be at the helm!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: plenum on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:17:51 AM
Trained with squad yesterday. Will probably be on bench tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Flip on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:18:42 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:19:33 AM
Trained with squad yesterday. Will probably be on bench tomorrow.

Assuming he is fit as he has had ressie games i would rather him start at LW than Sammy tbh
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:27:44 AM
Good stuff, had a feeling he'd sneak on with those that are unavailable.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ian W on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:31:59 AM
Trained with squad yesterday. Will probably be on bench tomorrow.

Assuming he is fit as he has had ressie games i would rather him start at LW than Sammy tbh

Really? He doesn't have much pace. I thought Sammy did OK against Man City?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:38:07 AM
Trained with squad yesterday. Will probably be on bench tomorrow.

Assuming he is fit as he has had ressie games i would rather him start at LW than Sammy tbh

Really? He doesn't have much pace. I thought Sammy did OK against Man City?

Why should pace be the only factor? Would rather someone with any sort of ability to pick a pass, cross a ball, strike a ball from distance etc than an extremely raw kid who at present pretty much only displays pace and a good attitude and workrate.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lush Vlad on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:41:25 AM
Trained with squad yesterday. Will probably be on bench tomorrow.

Assuming he is fit as he has had ressie games i would rather him start at LW than Sammy tbh

Really? He doesn't have much pace. I thought Sammy did OK against Man City?

Why should pace be the only factor? Would rather someone with any sort of ability to pick a pass, cross a ball, strike a ball from distance etc than an extremely raw kid who at present pretty much only displays pace and a good attitude and workrate.

Don't see him as a winger TBH, just cuts in all the time and doesn't look comfortable out there.  Don't think Sammy is ideal, but would rather have him on the left.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:42:03 AM
If he did come into the team I think I'd rather play him centrally and Ben Arfa left.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: palnese on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:43:19 AM
Vuckic must play behind the striker or not at all.

Don't see him as a CM, and certainly not out wide.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Friday 2 December 2011, 11:58:03 AM
Vuckic should be played down the middle if he's playing. He's never really caught my eye out wide.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 2 December 2011, 12:02:46 PM
Vuckic should be played down the middle if he's playing. He's never really caught my eye out wide.

Tooj in not keen on European #10 shunted wide shocker. ;)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Friday 2 December 2011, 12:02:52 PM
Would like to see him on the bench but there still may not be room. Assuming it is unchanged apart from Sammy then there is Elliot/Harper, Santon, Perch, Gosling, Lovenkrands, Best and Shola there. Would personally much rather have Haris on the bench than Lovenkrands, but Pardew seems to like him. As much as I liked Pete in the championship he is not at this stage in his career (and whether he was at any stage is debatable) a premier league player.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lush Vlad on Friday 2 December 2011, 12:08:41 PM
Would like to see him on the bench but there still may not be room. Assuming it is unchanged apart from Sammy then there is Elliot/Harper, Santon, Perch, Gosling, Lovenkrands, Best and Shola there. Would personally much rather have Haris on the bench than Lovenkrands, but Pardew seems to like him. As much as I liked Pete in the championship he is not at this stage in his career (and whether he was at any stage is debatable) a premier league player.

Spot on, With Shola and Best in the squad, there should be no room for Loverman.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Friday 2 December 2011, 12:26:24 PM
Turned into a bit of a Lovenkrands rant, but I have to say my feelings towards him are turning a similar way to they have about Smith, although of course not quite to the same extreme. There is just no way the bloke should be anywhere near the team. I don't think anyone in the world would advocating him starting a game and he's just not a useful option off the bench. He's lost a yard of pace, doesn't really run with the ball nor does he hold it particularly well. He isn't useful to have coming off the bench when we need a goal, nor when we are trying to protect a league. In the Premier League, particularly against the better sides, its like having ten on the pitch - he's just anonymous.

 :rant: Rant over, back to work!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lush Vlad on Friday 2 December 2011, 12:56:25 PM
Turned into a bit of a Lovenkrands rant, but I have to say my feelings towards him are turning a similar way to they have about Smith, although of course not quite to the same extreme. There is just no way the bloke should be anywhere near the team. I don't think anyone in the world would advocating him starting a game and he's just not a useful option off the bench. He's lost a yard of pace, doesn't really run with the ball nor does he hold it particularly well. He isn't useful to have coming off the bench when we need a goal, nor when we are trying to protect a league. In the Premier League, particularly against the better sides, its like having ten on the pitch - he's just anonymous.

 :rant: Rant over, back to work!

Nowhere near Smith standards for me.  He's actually a half decent finisher, scored a lot of goals in the championship, cost sod all, probably gets paid sod all and seems a likeable guy.  Smith is the polar opposite.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Friday 2 December 2011, 01:05:40 PM
Turned into a bit of a Lovenkrands rant, but I have to say my feelings towards him are turning a similar way to they have about Smith, although of course not quite to the same extreme. There is just no way the bloke should be anywhere near the team. I don't think anyone in the world would advocating him starting a game and he's just not a useful option off the bench. He's lost a yard of pace, doesn't really run with the ball nor does he hold it particularly well. He isn't useful to have coming off the bench when we need a goal, nor when we are trying to protect a league. In the Premier League, particularly against the better sides, its like having ten on the pitch - he's just anonymous.

 :rant: Rant over, back to work!

Nowhere near Smith standards for me.  He's actually a half decent finisher, scored a lot of goals in the championship, cost sod all, probably gets paid sod all and seems a likeable guy.  Smith is the polar opposite.

Didn't say that he was at Smith standard, just that he was starting to go the same way in terms of what he offers. The championship proved that he was a decent finished, however, of course we aren't in the championship anymore. He just isn't good enough to create those opportunities regularly in the premier league, particularly not against the top defenders. For me he is therefore a waste of a substitute.

He seems a likeable guy, but then again so does Smith so it is a massive exaggeration to say that they are the polar opposite of each other.  Playing devils advocate a bit here - if we are looking at the character of the player then wages are irrelevant - Smith cannot be blamed for the amount of money the club are paying him on.

 I accept that there are of course difference and that Lovenkrands has contributed far more to the club on the pitch than Smith. At this precise moment of time they are both burdensome, all be it that Smith is a more expensive burden. Lovenkrands is if you like the lesser of two evils.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lush Vlad on Friday 2 December 2011, 01:38:27 PM
Turned into a bit of a Lovenkrands rant, but I have to say my feelings towards him are turning a similar way to they have about Smith, although of course not quite to the same extreme. There is just no way the bloke should be anywhere near the team. I don't think anyone in the world would advocating him starting a game and he's just not a useful option off the bench. He's lost a yard of pace, doesn't really run with the ball nor does he hold it particularly well. He isn't useful to have coming off the bench when we need a goal, nor when we are trying to protect a league. In the Premier League, particularly against the better sides, its like having ten on the pitch - he's just anonymous.

 :rant: Rant over, back to work!

Nowhere near Smith standards for me.  He's actually a half decent finisher, scored a lot of goals in the championship, cost sod all, probably gets paid sod all and seems a likeable guy.  Smith is the polar opposite.

Didn't say that he was at Smith standard, just that he was starting to go the same way in terms of what he offers. The championship proved that he was a decent finished, however, of course we aren't in the championship anymore. He just isn't good enough to create those opportunities regularly in the premier league, particularly not against the top defenders. For me he is therefore a waste of a substitute.

He seems a likeable guy, but then again so does Smith so it is a massive exaggeration to say that they are the polar opposite of each other.  Playing devils advocate a bit here - if we are looking at the character of the player then wages are irrelevant - Smith cannot be blamed for the amount of money the club are paying him on.

 I accept that there are of course difference and that Lovenkrands has contributed far more to the club on the pitch than Smith. At this precise moment of time they are both burdensome, all be it that Smith is a more expensive burden. Lovenkrands is if you like the lesser of two evils.

I didn't mean as a player, I meant my dislike of him as a player is nowhere near Smith standards.  Worded it wrong, should have made that clearer!

How is it a massive exaggeration?  Smith is on massive wages, cost £6m, has had a handful of good games for us, never scored and seems like a bit of a nob.  On what I have just mentioned, he is the opposite to Lovenkrands, fail to see the argument?  But lets play devil's advocate for no particular reason. 

People are obviously going to pick up on the fee paid and wages, it's what fans do isn't it???  When you pay that kind of money and dish out some ridiculous 5 year deal, you want some returns on that.  Seeing as we currently run a tight ship and have an owner that isn't keen on spending money, I think it's a valid point.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Friday 2 December 2011, 01:53:23 PM
Turned into a bit of a Lovenkrands rant, but I have to say my feelings towards him are turning a similar way to they have about Smith, although of course not quite to the same extreme. There is just no way the bloke should be anywhere near the team. I don't think anyone in the world would advocating him starting a game and he's just not a useful option off the bench. He's lost a yard of pace, doesn't really run with the ball nor does he hold it particularly well. He isn't useful to have coming off the bench when we need a goal, nor when we are trying to protect a league. In the Premier League, particularly against the better sides, its like having ten on the pitch - he's just anonymous.

 :rant: Rant over, back to work!

Nowhere near Smith standards for me.  He's actually a half decent finisher, scored a lot of goals in the championship, cost sod all, probably gets paid sod all and seems a likeable guy.  Smith is the polar opposite.

Didn't say that he was at Smith standard, just that he was starting to go the same way in terms of what he offers. The championship proved that he was a decent finished, however, of course we aren't in the championship anymore. He just isn't good enough to create those opportunities regularly in the premier league, particularly not against the top defenders. For me he is therefore a waste of a substitute.

He seems a likeable guy, but then again so does Smith so it is a massive exaggeration to say that they are the polar opposite of each other.  Playing devils advocate a bit here - if we are looking at the character of the player then wages are irrelevant - Smith cannot be blamed for the amount of money the club are paying him on.

 I accept that there are of course difference and that Lovenkrands has contributed far more to the club on the pitch than Smith. At this precise moment of time they are both burdensome, all be it that Smith is a more expensive burden. Lovenkrands is if you like the lesser of two evils.

I didn't mean as a player, I meant my dislike of him as a player is nowhere near Smith standards.  Worded it wrong, should have made that clearer!

How is it a massive exaggeration?  Smith is on massive wages, cost £6m, has had a handful of good games for us, never scored and seems like a bit of a nob.  On what I have just mentioned, he is the opposite to Lovenkrands, fail to see the argument?  But lets play devil's advocate for no particular reason. 

People are obviously going to pick up on the fee paid and wages, it's what fans do isn't it???  When you pay that kind of money and dish out some ridiculous 5 year deal, you want some returns on that.  Seeing as we currently run a tight ship and have an owner that isn't keen on spending money, I think it's a valid point.

I agree with some of what you say, but in my opinion you can't put things like 'he's on massive wages' in the same category of things as 'he seems like a nice guy'. It is not Smiths fault that he cost a lot of money, nor that he is on a lot of money - if Lovenkrands was offered the same money I'd be surprised if he turned it down.

Not sure where you have got that Smith seems a bit of a nob from - if you can point me to any incidents that suggest this I will happily apologise. The only thing I can think of is that video at Man City where he takes the time to chat to our mascot and gives them his training jumper unprompted. Giving someone a bit of kit is by no means conclusive but it suggests otherwise?

I said in my original post that Lovenkrands hasn't reached the same level as Smith. The fact that Smith was a so called big signing who flopped is detrimental to his cause and the fact that Lovenkrands was a freebie who scored goals in the championship can be used in his mitigation, but they are not polar opposites as either as players or, as far as I can tell, blokes.

If you turned up tomorrow and either was starting almost with out exception everyone be p*ssed off and if either came on most would think that it was a waste of a sub. 
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Friday 2 December 2011, 01:55:58 PM
Anyway not really sure why we are having this argument (admittedly instigated by me!)... I'm pretty sure that we both agree that neither of them should be in the team?!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Lush Vlad on Friday 2 December 2011, 02:36:16 PM
Yeah pretty much!  Too much like hard work for me on a Friday so I'm happy to agree to disagree and stop killing this thread!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Friday 2 December 2011, 02:39:22 PM
That Vuckic lad looks half decent...
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 2 December 2011, 02:41:38 PM
Turned into a bit of a Lovenkrands rant, but I have to say my feelings towards him are turning a similar way to they have about Smith, although of course not quite to the same extreme. There is just no way the bloke should be anywhere near the team. I don't think anyone in the world would advocating him starting a game and he's just not a useful option off the bench. He's lost a yard of pace, doesn't really run with the ball nor does he hold it particularly well. He isn't useful to have coming off the bench when we need a goal, nor when we are trying to protect a league. In the Premier League, particularly against the better sides, its like having ten on the pitch - he's just anonymous.

 :rant: Rant over, back to work!

Nowhere near Smith standards for me.  He's actually a half decent finisher, scored a lot of goals in the championship, cost sod all, probably gets paid sod all and seems a likeable guy.  Smith is the polar opposite.

This is quite a popular myth. He scored an acceptable amount, given the fact he was a penalty taker in by far the best team in the league.

He's likeable as a person, which seperates him from Smith. Both aren't anywhere near up to it, though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Friday 2 December 2011, 03:26:54 PM
Trained with squad yesterday. Will probably be on bench tomorrow.

Good to see him back :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 18 December 2011, 07:34:00 PM
Very Likely that he'll get his first Premier League start on Wednesday, excited about the prospect of seeing him in midfield, hope he shows what he's got.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Sunday 18 December 2011, 07:40:48 PM
Had a very good pre-season so if he does start on Wednesday, I look forward to it :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: NEEJ on Sunday 18 December 2011, 08:32:12 PM
Hope he really gets forward if he does start.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 18 December 2011, 08:33:23 PM
Encouraging enough that Pardew has confidence in him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: VaVaVoom on Sunday 18 December 2011, 08:41:04 PM
Thing with him, like Abeid is their progression in the 1st team is going to be very limited.

Cabaye is a solid starter in CM and so is Tiote if we can keep him. Then its Guthrie who has been class this season and i hope we keep and then Gosling who is promising.

I have said it before but i really hope we can mould Vuckic into a striker, to me he could be like a RVP kind of player.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 18 December 2011, 08:41:51 PM
Gosling isn't promising. ;)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: VaVaVoom on Sunday 18 December 2011, 08:52:27 PM
I think he is.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Sunday 18 December 2011, 08:55:07 PM
Gosling isn't promising. ;)

I think he can be a solid utility player but that's about it. Worth having.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 18 December 2011, 09:01:52 PM
He's still young and had more than his fair share of injuries, far too early to make a judgement either way (you can apply that to Vuckic or Gosling tbh).
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tiresias on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 08:44:54 PM
First half of this match has been excellent, would love to see him in a midfield 3 with Cabaye and Tiote
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 08:45:32 PM
What a shooooooot
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 08:46:27 PM
What a shooooooot

:nods:

If that had went in........:fwap:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tiresias on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 08:46:33 PM
His pass through was almost identical in that it was almost perfect but not quite
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 08:46:46 PM
Looking a very talented player.

Not sure this is the role for him though in a flat central two.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Colocho on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 08:48:15 PM
Looking a very talented player.

Not sure this is the role for him though in a flat central two.

Looks a CAM to me...

Obertan (because we seemingly have to) -- Tiote -- Jonas

----------------------- Vuckic -- Ben Arfa -----------------------------

------------------------------ Ba ----------------------------------------
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 08:51:53 PM
No Cabaye? :lol:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Colocho on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:41:27 PM
Fantastic tonight. Looked hungry, used the ball well - really took his chance to impress.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Fantastic tonight. Looked hungry, used the ball well - really took his chance to impress.

:thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:44:04 PM
Actually looked out of gas around 80 mins in.  Didn't know he had that kind of shot on him though, decent enough tonight.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Andy on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:45:47 PM
By the sounds of it he carried on his pre-season form tonight.. encouraging. Going to be a very good player, I think.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Jayson on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:46:30 PM
Really good performance, more attacking than cabaye & one hell of a shot on him.

Deserved a goal, really unlucky. Done himself a lot of credit though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:47:33 PM
Way better than Gosling.  Would like to see him partnering Cabaye.  That would be an awesome combination with devastating long shot ability.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:51:38 PM
How hasn't he been getting a look in?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:52:10 PM
Very promising performance.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:52:54 PM
How hasn't he been getting a look in?
He's been injured?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tiresias on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:53:15 PM
Did superb really, will not have done his standings any harm
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 09:53:59 PM
Impressed by him going forward (and I guess that was what he was in the side for) but f***ing hell you could tell Cabaye wasn't in there. Funnily enough not for his passing, but his positioning and workrate. None of which is Haris' fault of course.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Heneage on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:00:57 PM
Promising, I'd love to see him in a 3 man midfield with the Cabaye and Tiote.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: axel on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:03:22 PM
Him and Cabaye against Bolton please.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:06:43 PM
Was one of the positives from tonight. Some good attacking play from him. Promising, he's certainly one for the future.

If only one of his shots went in......
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:07:46 PM
What a brilliant young player he is, in a really frustrating night he was one of the few if not the only positive we can take from tonight, incredibly unlucky not to have scored..just not his day
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mistle17 on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:09:12 PM
If we could fit him into a midfield packed with Tiote, Cabaye and Ben Arfa then I'd be very pleased with that.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: johnnypd on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:09:21 PM
Impressed by him going forward (and I guess that was what he was in the side for) but f***ing hell you could tell Cabaye wasn't in there. Funnily enough not for his passing, but his positioning and workrate. None of which is Haris' fault of course.

aye missed Cabaye's calmness. Suggested at half time to take best off, put Abeid on and push Vuckic up there with Ba, would've given us a bit more solidity and an extra body in the middle while releasing Vuckic to get on the ball and hurt them. think he looks like what the reserve watchers have been saying all along - a massive talent who does some astonishing things in the final third, but who might not be the best player for getting stuck in and making himself available when we're under pressure.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:10:20 PM
Bags of potential in a triumvirate of him, Tiote and Cabaye. I felt from the word go that the latter two would both work better in a midfield three, what with Barton still being at the club. They're each a different sort of player that have attributes that could bounce off each other nicely. Tiote the defensive holder, Cabaye the box-to-box stamina machine who retains possession, Vuckic with the all-out-attack mindframe.

Jonas, Ben Arfa and Ba all ahead of them...

That looks extremely good on paper.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Great prospect, makes things happen, should be more involved in the set-up than Sammy IMO. Now his injury problems seem behind him, let's hope he is.

Definitely should be involved as an AM, not CM. The thought of him and Cabaye taking pops on their left and right foots respectively from outside the box is brilliant.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:23:14 PM
What a bright future please god let him stay fit, had his first effort gone in he would struggle to score a better goal in the rest of his career.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:26:06 PM
Looked very good today. Clearly have a great future ahead!
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Tiresias on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:30:32 PM
Based on this, when we have no Ba for ACN and we failed to buy a striker lets just play this guy upfront, has goals in him
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: gbandit on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:41:00 PM
Best NUFC player for me. His passing and composure is superb. He's very comfortable and strong on the ball. Can see him being a heavy goalscoring midfielder playing in the hole or centre mid/lampard role
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Watch us sign some pointless player and play him ahead of Haris.

I'm still gutted that first half screamer didn't go in, just knew it wasn't going to be our night when i saw it rebound off the post and out.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Skirge on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:48:04 PM
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20111221/vuckic-a-dream-come-true_2281670_2554920 (http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20111221/vuckic-a-dream-come-true_2281670_2554920)
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Oakie Doke on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:51:21 PM
very encouraging performance, looks like he could be one hell of a player as his pre-season form suggested.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:53:12 PM
Has pace to burn, strong, big, good shot, good passer. Needs to calm down at times, but very, very useful.

How about we drop one of our (at the time) horrible wingers and play 4-3-3 with Haris, Tioté and Cabaye behind Best, Ba and Hatem?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:55:15 PM
Clearly not a central midfielder, but has technique and quality in abundance. We'll probably never seen him in a system playing to his strengths under Pardew.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:55:26 PM
Has pace to burn, strong, big, good shot, good passer. Needs to calm down at times, but very, very useful.

How about we drop one of our (at the time) horrible wingers and play 4-3-3 with Haris, Tioté and Cabaye behind Best, Ba and Hatem?
i saw that but in far too meagre quantities today to get him a start, let alone rearrange the team round him.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 10:56:18 PM
Probably the one big positive tonight after Ba's goals.
He never stopped trying to make himself available mainly to be ignored constantly. Must be close to covering the most ground tonight.
Sweet left peg and nearly pulled a stunner out the hat.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:03:55 PM
you all saw something that totally passed me by, hope you're right.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: H09 on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:09:22 PM
Had 3 great efforts, should play off the front man though rather than in the middle of a 442
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:18:32 PM
One of the only good things about tonight was the performance of Vuckic, I hope he now gets the run of games he deserves.  I've seen him quite a few times for the reserves and kids but didn't expect the performance he gave us tonight.  I thought that he would look good, he was even better than that as he played a major part in the game for us.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:19:55 PM
He can't turn, can't pass, can't shoot and can't see.  He's as bad as Smith.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: VaVaVoom on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:32:32 PM
Bags of potential in a triumvirate of him, Tiote and Cabaye. I felt from the word go that the latter two would both work better in a midfield three, what with Barton still being at the club. They're each a different sort of player that have attributes that could bounce off each other nicely. Tiote the defensive holder, Cabaye the box-to-box stamina machine who retains possession, Vuckic with the all-out-attack mindframe.

Jonas, Ben Arfa and Ba all ahead of them...

That looks extremely good on paper.

---Krul---
Simpson---Taylor---Coloccini---Santon
Cabaye---Tiote---Vuckic
Ben Arfa-------Ba-------Jonas

Would be a fuckin beautiful line up......Williamson in place for Taylor whilst he's out.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:34:09 PM
He's a quality player, but we really missed Cabaye's defensive work today.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:50:47 PM
He's a quality player, but we really missed Cabaye's defensive work today.

Aye, he's never a central midfielder. Put him ahead of Cabaye and Tiote, with Hatem, Ba and Jonas up top.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:53:12 PM
He's a quality player, but we really missed Cabaye's defensive work today.

Aye, he's never a central midfielder. Put him ahead of Cabaye and Tiote, with Hatem, Ba and Jonas up top.

You checked the Bolton thread? Pretty much everybody has posted that line-up  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:55:49 PM
Really pleasing to be able to come on here and discover it wasn't all gloom and doom tonight. Would love to see this guy make it. :thup:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 21 December 2011, 11:56:10 PM
He's a quality player, but we really missed Cabaye's defensive work today.

Aye, he's never a central midfielder. Put him ahead of Cabaye and Tiote, with Hatem, Ba and Jonas up top.

You checked the Bolton thread? Pretty much everybody has posted that line-up  :laugh:

:lol: I hadn't, but it's the obvious choice.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TRC on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:02:49 AM
What about Obertan though?
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:04:00 AM
Class tonight.

Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:04:43 AM
Class tonight.

Cocky t***.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: geordiemonster on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:06:14 AM
Definitely one for the future.  So unlucky not to get at least one goal.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:06:50 AM
Just realised...if that shot off the bar had gone in it would have been the 20,000th Prem goal :(
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:07:11 AM
Class tonight.

Cocky t***.

:laugh:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:07:27 AM
Just realised...if that shot off the bar had gone in it would have been the 20,000th Prem goal :(

f***ing hell man stop making it worse :(
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: John P on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:14:05 AM
Just me who thought he wasn't that great? He has quality on the ball, but positionally he was all over the place for a central midfielder, tiote was almost playing centre mid by himself at times. Showed promise with his long range efforts and obviously has talent, but he shouldn't be playing centre mid, leaves us far too exposed.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:14:21 AM
Just realised...if that shot off the bar had gone in it would have been the 20,000th Prem goal :(

Oh.....
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: madras on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:14:56 AM
Just me who thought he wasn't that great? He has quality on the ball, but positionally he was all over the place for a central midfielder, tiote was almost playing centre mid by himself at times. Showed promise with his long range efforts and obviously has talent, but he shouldn't be playing centre mid, leaves us far too exposed.
you're not alone.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Parky on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:14:59 AM
Looked very promising today.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:16:28 AM
Just me who thought he wasn't that great? He has quality on the ball, but positionally he was all over the place for a central midfielder, tiote was almost playing centre mid by himself at times. Showed promise with his long range efforts and obviously has talent, but he shouldn't be playing centre mid, leaves us far too exposed.

No, you're right, he definitely didn't offer enough defensively/positionally and we missed Cabaye in that sense. He looks a good footballer though.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:17:11 AM
He was better than Tiote tonight, by a long shot.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: EthiGeordie on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:17:34 AM
Harris what a gem..
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:17:38 AM
Some shot on this kid.

Him and Mehdi for the future is  just :drool:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:20:26 AM
While he's a tremendous footballer and a great prospect, I think Abeid was more suited for this one. Good debut but obviously naive at this level.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: The Prophet on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:20:35 AM
Was it just me that thought while he played well individually, he didn't work in the 4-4-2? Admittedly he wasn't helped by Tiote's display.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Dave on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:21:08 AM
Was it just me that thought while he played well individually, he didn't work in the 4-4-2? Admittedly he wasn't helped by Tiote's display.

Read the thread? :razz:
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Wisdom Body on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:58:10 AM
Showed the usual good touches and technique, but clearly not tactically nor 'morphologically' a central midfielder, despite his physique. Ideally he should be rivalling Ben Arfa for a spot on the starting line-up but at the moment neither of the two can get on the team sheet. Or at the very limit he could play on the right side, just to give the Obertan project a break.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:59:10 AM
Just realised...if that shot off the bar had gone in it would have been the 20,000th Prem goal :(

Oh.....

Aw f***, I'm gutted more now :(
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: Mick on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:00:32 AM
Showed the usual good touches and technique, but clearly not tactically nor 'morphologically' a central midfielder, despite his physique. Ideally he should be rivalling Ben Arfa for a spot on the starting line-up but at the moment neither of the two can get on the team sheet. Or at the very limit he could play on the right side, just to give the Obertan project a break.

Stick Vuckic in Best's position and replace Obertan with Ben Arfa, two problems solved.
Title: Re: The Haris Vuckic Thread
Post by: wormy on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:00:41 AM
While he's a tremendous footballer and a great prospect, I think Abeid was more suited for this one. Good debut but obviously naive at this level.

Would that have been a better choice? Feel stupid commenting when I didn't watch, but I would imagine Abeid in there would have been a ridiculously deep CM, isn't he used to lying deep? Would be stepping over Tiote's feet I would assume. Not to mention he's just as inexperienced, so naivety would still be a worry.
Title: Re: Haris Vuckic
Post by: wormy on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:01:04 AM
Showed the usual good touches and technique, but clearly not tactically nor 'morphologically' a central midfielder, despite his physique. Ideally he should be rivalling Ben Arfa for a spot on the starting line-up but at the moment neither of the two can get on the team sheet. Or at the very limit he could play on the right side, just to give the Obertan project a break.

Stick Vuckic in Best's position and replace Obertan with Ben Arfa, two problems solved.

:fwap: :fwap:

Was just thinking that.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skirge on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:02:44 AM
He is such a talent, great NUFCTV interview with him, huge grin just so happy he got a game.. he can stay fit he will nick a starting place off someone.
Title: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ash on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:06:10 AM
He isn't one for the future, he's one for right now. Needs to be in the 18 every week as far as I'm concerned.

Hope he isn't dropped against Bolton, would be extremely harsh. With Tiote and Cabaye on the pitch controlling the midfield, he could cause some real damage. Same goes for Ben Arfa too.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:12:57 AM
Showed the usual good touches and technique, but clearly not tactically nor 'morphologically' a central midfielder, despite his physique. Ideally he should be rivalling Ben Arfa for a spot on the starting line-up but at the moment neither of the two can get on the team sheet. Or at the very limit he could play on the right side, just to give the Obertan project a break.

Stick Vuckic in Best's position and replace Obertan with Ben Arfa, two problems solved.

:fwap: :fwap:

Was just thinking that.

That's quite a solution.
Title: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ryan on Thursday 22 December 2011, 08:18:51 AM
Played well last night I thought and them 2 shots were absolutely terrific. As has been said, definitely needs to be in the matchday 18 all the time now. Would probably prefer him coming off the bench than Sammy, who I'd like to see go out on loan.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: KDT on Thursday 22 December 2011, 08:22:10 AM
At this stage he's not a cm in a 4-4-2
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 22 December 2011, 09:16:16 AM
While he's a tremendous footballer and a great prospect, I think Abeid was more suited for this one. Good debut but obviously naive at this level.

Would that have been a better choice? Feel stupid commenting when I didn't watch, but I would imagine Abeid in there would have been a ridiculously deep CM, isn't he used to lying deep? Would be stepping over Tiote's feet I would assume. Not to mention he's just as inexperienced, so naivety would still be a worry.

Vuckic was industrious moving forward but he didn't offer enough energy and protection, something that I think Abeid would have done as he's more of a rounded midfielder. I don't think Mehdi's quite as deep as Tiote either, he's more box-to-box than that, so I think they'd have worked well enough.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: The_Optimistic on Thursday 22 December 2011, 09:42:03 AM
Played really well considering he didn't get much support from Tiote.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: henke on Thursday 22 December 2011, 09:50:09 AM
He's a big f***er isn't he?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 22 December 2011, 09:50:20 AM
Just realised...if that shot off the bar had gone in it would have been the 20,000th Prem goal :(

It wouldn't.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Lush Vlad on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:01:29 AM
Can certainly hit a ball, had two great efforts and two ok ish ones.  Seemed to drift in and out of the game though, which is understandable given his age, inexperience and lack of competitive playing time.  Still a pretty decent full debut and there is a s*** load of potential there.

Checked on chalkboard stats and he attempted and completed around half the amount of passes as Tiote, 30 odd to Tiote's 70 completed.  Sort of backs up the theory that he went AWOL for long periods.

Looks more of an attacking midfield player, wouldn't want to see him in a 4-4-2 again unless needs must. 

Promising.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:03:27 AM
I don't think he imposed himself enough last night, although those shots were fantastic.

I really like the lad, so I hope he makes it with us.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:21:48 AM
According to MOTD he "stamped his authority on the game from the start".
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:24:32 AM
According to MOTD he "stamped his authority on the game from the start".
The game passed him by. MotD showed his 2 shots and made it look like he was outstanding whereas i thought he looked lost and put Tiote under massive pressure.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mick on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:39:15 AM
I don't think Vuckic is ever going to boss a midfield, what he brings to the team is a bit of creativity and that's what we've got to make the most of.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:45:09 AM
MOTD talk s****!! Did ok for his first start however he should never play one of a midfield two, definitely missed Cabaye.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:48:36 AM
:lol: how can you say things like 'should never play in a midfield two'? Unbelievable.

Thought he was good myself. The player we shouldn't worry about is the 19 year old who displayed fantastic technique and an appetite for goal. What about the much older players who were utterly pathetic?

Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Andy on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:59:22 AM
According to MOTD he "stamped his authority on the game from the start".
The game passed him by. MotD showed his 2 shots and made it look like he was outstanding whereas i thought he looked lost and put Tiote under massive pressure.

Seemed more like Tiote put him under pressure by failing to turn up, giving the ball away continuously and generally having an absolute shitter.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: S.S.R. on Thursday 22 December 2011, 11:01:14 AM
When are we going to start saying he's getting sold for £20 mill?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BONTEMPI on Thursday 22 December 2011, 11:04:58 AM
I'd like to give him a run in the side, and give him the chance to shoot on sight.

                  Krul

Simpson  Willow  Colo   Santon(Hopefully)

                 Tiote
         
Jonas      Cabaye         Ben Arfa   

                     Vuckic
              Ba
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Colocho on Thursday 22 December 2011, 11:13:09 AM
I'd like to give him a run in the side, and give him the chance to shoot on sight.

                  Krul

Simpson  Willow  Colo   Santon(Hopefully)

                 Tiote
         
Jonas      Cabaye         Ben Arfa   

                     Vuckic
              Ba

 :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 22 December 2011, 11:13:21 AM
According to MOTD he "stamped his authority on the game from the start".
The game passed him by. MotD showed his 2 shots and made it look like he was outstanding whereas i thought he looked lost and put Tiote under massive pressure.

Seemed more like Tiote put him under pressure by failing to turn up, giving the ball away continuously and generally having an absolute shitter.
I disagree, i thought Vuckic went missing for most of the night and left us massively exposed in midfield.

He'll be okay playing ahead of Cabaye and Tiote in an attacking midfield role but not in a central 2.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Big Geordie on Thursday 22 December 2011, 11:46:13 AM
Yup - his positon is to play off a central striker. Couldn't do any worse than Best if Pardew refuses to play Ben Arfa.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:18:18 PM
He runs like Andy Carroll.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 22 December 2011, 12:58:14 PM
I don't think he went missing that much as such, he showed for the ball fairly frequently, passed confidently and drove us forward a couple of times. His defensive game was almost non-existant though and he didn't put anywhere near the same kind of pressure on the opposition when they had the ball that Cabaye does. Cabaye's defensive work is brilliant, especially considering it was apparently never part of his role for Lille where he played in a 3.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:05:07 PM
I don't think he went missing that much as such, he showed for the ball fairly frequently, passed confidently and drove us forward a couple of times. His defensive game was almost non-existant though and he didn't put anywhere near the same kind of pressure on the opposition when they had the ball that Cabaye does. Cabaye's defensive work is brilliant, especially considering it was apparently never part of his role for Lille where he played in a 3.
That's what i mean, he still wanted the ball, i mean he was lost when we didn't have the ball.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:45:01 PM
Excellent technique, vision and confidence to get shots away. We really missed Cabaye however, Vuckic isn't good enough to be starting in a flat 4-4-2. Hope to see him and Ferguson on the bench more, Sammy out on loan.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: gbandit on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:48:31 PM
Excellent technique, vision and confidence to get shots away. We really missed Cabaye however, Vuckic isn't good enough to be starting in a flat 4-4-2. Hope to see him and Ferguson on the bench more, Sammy out on loan.

You're right about Sammy like, he needs a loan more than anyone else in our team. Think Vuckic is almost good enough to start but like you say, for the moment, he's not ready for 4-4-2
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ikon on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:50:03 PM
Very easily finds good spaces to shoot from, intelligent player with a nice touch. Very much want to see him in his natural position like most of you. Impressed.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 22 December 2011, 01:53:36 PM
I think he's practically undroppable after that performance.

He'll be dropped, though.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:07:08 PM
I think he's practically undroppable after that performance.

He'll be dropped, though.

My thoughts exactly. Although the fact Santon WAS injured has lessened my accusations of youth mismanagement.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: binnsy on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:08:39 PM
better suited to the "number 10" position than HBA.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:09:29 PM
better suited to the "number 10" position than HBA.

Not sure how you can say that, but I respect the fact you've seen Vuckic much more than most other posters on here.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:12:28 PM
Vuckic would appear to be far more of a goal threat.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:18:16 PM
Vuckic would appear to be far more of a goal threat.

Given the fact they've only played a handful of games I assume you're trolling a bit.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:19:33 PM
Who's only played a handful of games? Ben Arfa's nearly 25.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:21:28 PM
Who's only played a handful of games? Ben Arfa's nearly 25.

For us. He certainly has a better senior goal record than Vuckic, if you're going to use random logic.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:24:05 PM
Vuckic has only started one league game. I think he certainly looks like the type that will get 10 goals a season in time.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:28:34 PM
Vuckic imposed himself fairly well, imo. There were five or six occasions he barged a WBA player off the ball or won a fifty-fifty and then surged forwards with the ball. He was direct and purposeful, and it was a very promising showing.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 22 December 2011, 02:37:53 PM
Vuckic imposed himself fairly well, imo. There were five or six occasions he barged a WBA player off the ball or won a fifty-fifty and then surged forwards with the ball. He was direct and purposeful, and it was a very promising showing.
He's still nowhere near ready to start in centre midfield mind. Would love to see him get a chance further up the pitch with the protection of two centre mids behind him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TRon on Thursday 22 December 2011, 03:02:27 PM
He should be playing behind Ba as a secondary forward, not as a midfielder. Maybe him and Ben Arfa could be accommodated in a 4-3-3 formation? It might give as a few more options for goals as the current midfield doesn't have many in the locker.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 22 December 2011, 03:03:22 PM
He should be playing behind Ba as a secondary forward, not as a midfielder. Maybe him and Ben Arfa could be accommodated in a 4-3-3 formation? It might give as a few more options for goals as the current midfield doesn't have many in the locker.

That is how i would go against Bolton. There is no way Pards will drop Jonas and Obertan though.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skeletor on Thursday 22 December 2011, 03:58:39 PM
He should be playing behind Ba as a secondary forward, not as a midfielder. Maybe him and Ben Arfa could be accommodated in a 4-3-3 formation? It might give as a few more options for goals as the current midfield doesn't have many in the locker.

That is how i would go against Bolton. There is no way Pards will drop Jonas and Obertan though.

Would only need to drop Obertan.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 22 December 2011, 04:17:43 PM
FIFA 12 Pro Player Challenge | The House of Wayne Rooney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJio0dJo_gM#ws)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Colocho on Thursday 22 December 2011, 04:33:08 PM
Will be at Real Madrid within 7 years.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cheshire Mag on Thursday 22 December 2011, 04:37:01 PM
Very encouraging performance last night, 2 great long range strike and very unlucky not to score with at least one of them. Hoping to see alot more from him, especially when Tiote is away.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 22 December 2011, 04:46:14 PM
Vuckic looks like such a nice lad
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 22 December 2011, 05:41:50 PM
If we could get a system including Cabaye, Tiote, Vuckic, Jonas, Ben Arfa and Ba together...
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Jayson on Thursday 22 December 2011, 05:53:09 PM
FIFA 12 Pro Player Challenge | The House of Wayne Rooney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJio0dJo_gM#ws)

Was watchin that, saw this on the side:
FIFA 12 Pro Player Tournament | Newcastle United (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niB4Qo9MqpI#ws)

Raylor loves it. Seems to enjoy fifa goals far moreso than his own real life wonder goals  :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Unbelievable! on Thursday 22 December 2011, 06:00:38 PM
That's brilliant. Biggest revelation is Raylor actually can smile. Who'd have thought it..?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skeletor on Thursday 22 December 2011, 06:05:09 PM
FIFA 12 Pro Player Challenge | The House of Wayne Rooney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJio0dJo_gM#ws)

Was watchin that, saw this on the side:
FIFA 12 Pro Player Tournament | Newcastle United (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niB4Qo9MqpI#ws)

Raylor loves it. Seems to enjoy fifa goals far moreso than his own real life wonder goals  :lol:

Is it ironic that Obertan is shouting the things most people shout at him in real life? :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Thursday 22 December 2011, 06:17:56 PM
Yes Obertan, run with it.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Lush Vlad on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:22:09 PM
Raylor was laughing like a mad man, can't believe he was so happy there.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:26:45 PM
Played well, has one hell of a shot on him BUT does not appear to be suited to a central midfield slot, needs to play higher up the pitch
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ikon on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:28:09 PM
Could become a player like RVP me think :) With better passing. "could"

Maybe a bit more withdrawn.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 22 December 2011, 10:28:35 PM
His sinister laugh is class.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Thursday 22 December 2011, 11:26:31 PM
He's posted a thanks on Facebook for the support, and got 60+ likes in five minutes. :)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 22 December 2011, 11:30:31 PM
If we could get a system including Cabaye, Tiote, Vuckic, Jonas, Ben Arfa and Ba together...

Erm..

Cabaye    Tiote    Jonas

   Vuckic       Ben Arfa
               Ba

 :undecided:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: matta on Friday 23 December 2011, 12:24:07 AM
im actually hoping he gives Vuckic, Cabaya and Tiote a place.


Good luck Pardew :)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 23 December 2011, 12:35:33 AM
If we could get a system including Cabaye, Tiote, Vuckic, Jonas, Ben Arfa and Ba together...

Erm..

Cabaye    Tiote    Jonas

   Vuckic       Ben Arfa
               Ba

 :undecided:


 Cabaye     Tiote   

          Vuckic       

Jonas          Ben Arfa

           Ba

No?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cajun on Friday 23 December 2011, 12:38:01 AM
Seems a bit odd and even more narrow than the one I posted, which with our full backs.. :kasper:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sifu on Friday 23 December 2011, 12:43:22 AM
A simpler solution would be (from right to left):


Jonas    Cabaye    Tiote   Ben Arfa

                      Vuckic

                        Ba



This will never happen though due to the Ben Arfa-wing thing. I can dream.....
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 23 December 2011, 12:53:44 AM
its not meant to be narrow. I'm just too important to spend my time tweaking that s***. HBA and Jonas would be wide.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cajun on Friday 23 December 2011, 01:17:02 AM
its not meant to be narrow. I'm just too important to spend my time tweaking that s***. HBA and Jonas would be wide.

The other full back (not playing behind Jonas) would have a hell of a lot of work one, hope it's Santon! :D
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ohmelads on Friday 23 December 2011, 04:04:06 AM
Exciting debut from him. I think people are being a bit harsh on him. I'm a big Tiote fan but Tiote was poor, no excuses. We know what Tiote is capable of but he didn't perform and it's very unfair to blame that on Vuckic who had two excellent shots on goal from distance and almost fed a perfect through ball to Ba. I wasn't at the game so maybe I missed all this disappearing that he did. We didn't get mugged on the counter because of Vuckic, we played poorly as a team but I thought he showed moments of class and obvious potential.

Vuckic needs games. If Gosling, Guthrie and Cabaye are all ahead of him in the pecking order, then why not send him out on a month's loan to the Championship when they're all fit? He'll get more used to the English game and it's worked well for us a few times in the past with players cutting their teeth at a lower level (Krul, Carroll, Bernard).
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Pata on Friday 23 December 2011, 06:42:00 AM
Exciting debut from him. I think people are being a bit harsh on him. I'm a big Tiote fan but Tiote was poor, no excuses. We know what Tiote is capable of but he didn't perform and it's very unfair to blame that on Vuckic who had two excellent shots on goal from distance and almost fed a perfect through ball to Ba. I wasn't at the game so maybe I missed all this disappearing that he did. We didn't get mugged on the counter because of Vuckic, we played poorly as a team but I thought he showed moments of class and obvious potential.

Vuckic needs games. If Gosling, Guthrie and Cabaye are all ahead of him in the pecking order, then why not send him out on a month's loan to the Championship when they're all fit? He'll get more used to the English game and it's worked well for us a few times in the past with players cutting their teeth at a lower level (Krul, Carroll, Bernard).

I don't think people are harsh on him, everyone is excited. The match just showed how much Cabaye means to us even off the ball. the amount of pressure he puts on the opposition is amazing and I think his absence really affected Tiote's perfomance too. Tiote was poor but he was really doing almost all the work in midfield. And that's not harsh on Vuckic, he's just not yet ready to play CM in 4-4-2. Going forward he was great and reminded me of the times of Laurent Robert ie. feeling real excitement when he got in position to shoot. Really hope we would try the suggested formations that include Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa and Vuckic.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 23 December 2011, 08:59:16 AM
3 at the back in a 3-4-2-1 would accomdate Ben Arfa and Vuckic behind Ba centrally, but we don't have 3 centrebacks I trust. Think Santon and Jonas could both be wingbacks though. Also 3 at the back is possibly a gamble, don't really want to try too experimental formations, generally 3 at the back requires a side full of pace, and we can be slow atm.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Beren on Sunday 25 December 2011, 07:41:28 PM
Since pre-season he's looked a phenomenal threat going forward. Really hope he stays around the first-team tbh.

Almost got two goals on his first Premiership start. Not bad by anyone's standards. Not the complete performance or anything, but could do well just ahead of a four-man midfield :thup: Increasingly high hopes for the guy.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sifu on Sunday 25 December 2011, 08:47:05 PM
The future is certainly bright methinks.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 26 December 2011, 12:25:44 AM
If he played in a midfield trio with Cabaye and Tiote, he would have license to do what he's best at. So would the other two, fwiw.

I was creaming over a potential triumvirate with Barton, but Vuckic could be even better.

Early optimism, i know - but the raw talent is blatantly obvious and he's been good every time i've seen him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: wormy on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:09:36 AM
If he played in a midfield trio with Cabaye and Tiote, he would have license to do what he's best at. So would the other two, fwiw.

I was creaming over a potential triumvirate with Barton, but Vuckic could be even better.

Early optimism, i know - but the raw talent is blatantly obvious and he's been good every time i've seen him.

Would love to see him given creative license with YoCabs and Tiote behind him. My hope pre-season was one striker up top, Barfa behind, with Haris coming in if Barfa wasn't an option. Right now, I'd like to see what's been mooted by pretty much everyone since WBA. Vuckic in the hole, Barfa out wide. Would be a f***ing dream.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: madras on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:13:16 AM
If he played in a midfield trio with Cabaye and Tiote, he would have license to do what he's best at. So would the other two, fwiw.

I was creaming over a potential triumvirate with Barton, but Vuckic could be even better.

Early optimism, i know - but the raw talent is blatantly obvious and he's been good every time i've seen him.

Would love to see him given creative license with YoCabs and Tiote behind him. My hope pre-season was one striker up top, Barfa behind, with Haris coming in if Barfa wasn't an option. Right now, I'd like to see what's been mooted by pretty much everyone since WBA. Vuckic in the hole, Barfa out wide. Would be a f***ing dream.
so with players like vuckic, ben arfa,marveaux, no real forward option after ba......can anyone else see why we really shouldn't be playing 4-4-2 ?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: johnnypd on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:13:45 AM
If he played in a midfield trio with Cabaye and Tiote, he would have license to do what he's best at. So would the other two, fwiw.

I was creaming over a potential triumvirate with Barton, but Vuckic could be even better.

Early optimism, i know - but the raw talent is blatantly obvious and he's been good every time i've seen him.

Would love to see him given creative license with YoCabs and Tiote behind him. My hope pre-season was one striker up top, Barfa behind, with Haris coming in if Barfa wasn't an option. Right now, I'd like to see what's been mooted by pretty much everyone since WBA. Vuckic in the hole, Barfa out wide. Would be a f***ing dream.

seems like there's a consensus on here about that line up, and i can't disagree, would be very exciting. think pardew will go with something far more conservative though, ie obertan starting. still should be enough to beat bolton, they're absolute w*** this season and their game against blackburn was one of the worst i've seen at prem level in a while in terms of quality.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: wormy on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:14:04 AM
If he played in a midfield trio with Cabaye and Tiote, he would have license to do what he's best at. So would the other two, fwiw.

I was creaming over a potential triumvirate with Barton, but Vuckic could be even better.

Early optimism, i know - but the raw talent is blatantly obvious and he's been good every time i've seen him.

Would love to see him given creative license with YoCabs and Tiote behind him. My hope pre-season was one striker up top, Barfa behind, with Haris coming in if Barfa wasn't an option. Right now, I'd like to see what's been mooted by pretty much everyone since WBA. Vuckic in the hole, Barfa out wide. Would be a f***ing dream.
so with players like vuckic, ben arfa,marveaux, no real forward option after ba......can anyone else see why we really shouldn't be playing 4-4-2 ?

Best is a good pro. And Obertan needs practice.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: madras on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:14:48 AM
If he played in a midfield trio with Cabaye and Tiote, he would have license to do what he's best at. So would the other two, fwiw.

I was creaming over a potential triumvirate with Barton, but Vuckic could be even better.

Early optimism, i know - but the raw talent is blatantly obvious and he's been good every time i've seen him.

Would love to see him given creative license with YoCabs and Tiote behind him. My hope pre-season was one striker up top, Barfa behind, with Haris coming in if Barfa wasn't an option. Right now, I'd like to see what's been mooted by pretty much everyone since WBA. Vuckic in the hole, Barfa out wide. Would be a f***ing dream.
so with players like vuckic, ben arfa,marveaux, no real forward option after ba......can anyone else see why we really shouldn't be playing 4-4-2 ?

Best is a good pro. And Obertan needs practice.
best is at best a best sort of squad player.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: wormy on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:21:35 AM
Agree completely, try telling Pardew that. Now is as good a time as any to shake things up, imo.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: madras on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:24:26 AM
Agree completely, try telling Pardew that. Now is as good a time as any to shake things up, imo.
it shouldn't be a shaking up, it was bloody obvious, especially at home that with our personnel 4-4-2 wasn't the way to get the best use.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mick on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:46:28 AM
it shouldn't be a shaking up, it was bloody obvious, especially at home that with our personnel 4-4-2 wasn't the way to get the best use.

I couldn't care less about formations, I would love to see us have a team of players who don't stick rigidly to any of them and just adapt to a game.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: wormy on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:47:19 AM
it shouldn't be a shaking up, it was bloody obvious, especially at home that with our personnel 4-4-2 wasn't the way to get the best use.

I couldn't care less about formations, I would love to see us have a team of players who don't stick rigidly to any of them and just adapt to a game.

 :smitten: What a dream.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mick on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:53:20 AM


 :smitten: What a dream.

It is a dream and I think we do have players who could do that.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: madras on Monday 26 December 2011, 01:56:35 AM
it shouldn't be a shaking up, it was bloody obvious, especially at home that with our personnel 4-4-2 wasn't the way to get the best use.

I couldn't care less about formations, I would love to see us have a team of players who don't stick rigidly to any of them and just adapt to a game.
how long have i been going on about that ?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: cubaricho on Monday 26 December 2011, 02:20:37 AM
it shouldn't be a shaking up, it was bloody obvious, especially at home that with our personnel 4-4-2 wasn't the way to get the best use.

I couldn't care less about formations, I would love to see us have a team of players who don't stick rigidly to any of them and just adapt to a game.
how long have i been going on about that ?

All we need is:

                  Krul
Simpson Taylor Colo Santon
                 Tiote
               Cabaye
        Four More People
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 26 December 2011, 08:17:40 AM
I bet Pardew has mulled this one over a lot the past few days. I remember the last time a manager did pretty much exactly what everyone on here wanted...we lost 3-0 at Derby.  :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: matta on Monday 26 December 2011, 10:20:34 AM
A simpler solution would be (from right to left):


Jonas    Cabaye    Tiote   Ben Arfa

                      Vuckic

                        Ba



This will never happen though due to the Ben Arfa-wing thing. I can dream.....

would love it
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cajun on Monday 26 December 2011, 10:34:54 AM
I bet Pardew has mulled this one over a lot the past few days. I remember the last time a manager did pretty much exactly what everyone on here wanted...we lost 3-0 at Derby.  :lol:

Yep remember that vividly :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:08:09 PM
Wondergoal for Haris tonight  :bluestar:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ishmael on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:08:27 PM
Mon Haris :smug:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:08:38 PM
:thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: AlanSkärare on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:09:08 PM
Go on Haris.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:10:11 PM
Interested to see how he does :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Frazzle on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:10:57 PM
 :clap: :indi:

Howay Haris
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:12:28 PM
Good luck to him  :clap: :clap:

A 30 yarder past Reina would be a nice end to 2011  O0
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: je85 on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:14:36 PM
Even a mackem is excited

Jonathan Wilson @jonawils 14m    · Details
Really interested to see Haris Vuckic for Newcastle tonight. Saw him in a youth tournament in May 2009 & he looked brilliant.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:23:06 PM
Excited for the lad, i really like him. hope he shows them what he can do.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: David28 on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:24:31 PM
Good luck to him  :clap: :clap:

A 30 yarder past Reina would be a nice end to 2011  O0

Aye, revenge for Xabi Alonso's in 2007 or when it was....
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Lenny on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:26:34 PM
Xabi's was a little further than 30 yards mind...
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: David28 on Friday 30 December 2011, 07:31:40 PM
Xabi's was a little further than 30 yards mind...

Still....
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:39:43 PM
Has found it difficult out there.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: juniatmoko on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:42:00 PM
should loan him first... to get 1st team match elsewhere... he isn't there yet.... FFS!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:42:51 PM
Or he just had a bad first half...
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mike on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:43:25 PM
Hasn't seen enough of the ball to say anything, tbh. He's obviously nervous, though.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Craig-NUFC on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:44:21 PM
Or pass the ball on the deck instead of hoofing it to Ba.

Think it's the tactics letting him down. He needs the ball playing to his feet and so far everything has been in the air or for him to run on to.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:46:20 PM
I don't think our gameplan has suited him (so why pick him?) but there's definitely an element of nerves to him tonight. Iffy touches and rushed passes that he doesn't normally make, based on my experience of him to date. Liverpool know he's inexperienced and are pressuring him well.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: MrSundlofer on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:46:58 PM
should loan him first... to get 1st team match elsewhere... he isn't there yet.... FFS!

Calm down.

He's just played 45 minutes away at Anfield Road.

He still has the quality to come in and do a job in another game.

No need for drastic things to loan him out.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:46:59 PM
He's main strength is playing with the ball is on his feet and when he's chasing it down 70% of the time it gets a bit hard for him, he'll improve in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skeletor on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:47:24 PM
He's mentally not ready for this game yet. His reactions seem to be in slow motion compared to other players.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:47:40 PM
Agree with that.

His game is a passing one, he'll link people together and always tries to keep possession. At the moment the ball is flying over his head and for someone as big as he is he's not the most physical or brave of players. Its harsh having a go at him for being used incorrectly. He's a young lad, he doesn't have years worth of experience to pull on to play 'out of position' effectively or to change his style of play.

I do however think he's a big softie! Dino, toughen the lad up!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:49:10 PM
I know that's probably said in jest, but ultimately his bravery on that block got us the goal. Good work. :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cajun on Friday 30 December 2011, 08:53:49 PM
Like most he has struggled, now over to the Obertan thread where it's obviously all his fault :troll:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 30 December 2011, 09:42:25 PM
He did Ok and we were good while he was on the pitch.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ishmael on Friday 30 December 2011, 09:48:55 PM
He froze.  Tonight was not the night for a young player with very little experience of first team football.  It was quiet clear how naive, uncertain and inexperienced he was.  A complete shame and entirely not his fault.

I'm annoyed with Pardew for putting him into the position. 

Definitely a decent prospect in there.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ED209 on Friday 30 December 2011, 09:52:07 PM
he must have passed back to tiote at least 40 times tonight.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 30 December 2011, 09:54:49 PM
Not ready to start big games, shame.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Friday 30 December 2011, 10:02:42 PM
Was clearly out of his depth tonight, the change should have been made at half time.

Not Haris's fault.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 30 December 2011, 10:14:50 PM
Poor decision to start him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skirge on Friday 30 December 2011, 11:25:23 PM
Aye looked lost tonight
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: bluegeordie on Friday 30 December 2011, 11:34:17 PM
Wrong game/strategy for him tonight, but he was still far from being our poorest contributor.

I think he's an interesting prospect for us, although I'm concerned that the speed of the EPL might be a problem for him. Moving forward, I just hope his technique and football smarts can compensate for his lack of pace.   
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sifu on Saturday 31 December 2011, 12:50:25 AM
Poor decision to start him.

Agreed, I can understand starting him against lesser teams like WBA but starting against a team like Liverpool was ill-advised. Looked overwhelmed by the occasion. Still young though and he's definitely one for the future.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: madras on Saturday 31 December 2011, 12:54:19 AM
pardew siad he saw enough against west brom for him to start tonight....i didn't.

2 shots does not a good game from centre mid make!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mick on Saturday 31 December 2011, 12:55:23 AM
pardew siad he saw enough against west brom for him to start tonight....i didn't.

2 shots does not a good game from centre mid make!

My question is, why not start him against Bolton?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Neil on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:07:17 AM
Not good at all. Not that he should be judged on this game nor should have started. He'll improve in time, but not sure what Pardew saw in him to think, yes, best start him tonight.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Oakie Doke on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:17:40 AM
pardew siad he saw enough against west brom for him to start tonight.
My question is, why not start him against Bolton?
Good question.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:21:52 AM
Lovely interview with him on .cock.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Rey Mysterio on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:22:11 AM
Took up some good positions and picked the ball up in a few dangerous areas but often either played it backwards or declined to take a shot on goal. Looked like nerves or the big occasion got the better of him tonight but plenty of promise to show there'll be a hell of a lot more to come from the lad.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:28:11 AM
Not good at all. Not that he should be judged on this game nor should have started. He'll improve in time, but not sure what Pardew saw in him to think, yes, best start him tonight.

The alternative was Ben Arfa.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:29:16 AM
Looked decent during that minute period of decent possession we enjoyed
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:29:35 AM
Not good at all. Not that he should be judged on this game nor should have started. He'll improve in time, but not sure what Pardew saw in him to think, yes, best start him tonight.

The alternative was Ben Arfa.

Do you think he's benching Hatem out of spite or because he doesn't know how to use him?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Saturday 31 December 2011, 01:31:21 AM
Honestly don't know. It's getting farcical when we're starting a 19 year old in his place, something's not right.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: wormy on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:06:05 AM
Was a shame tonight. The lad never stopped working, tried his best, but just couldn't get into it. Shrugged off the ball at nigh on every opportunity, wayward balls, just generally looked off the pace. Look forward to him getting some more opportunities this season in better circumstances, ie not getting thrown in in against the likes of Liverpool.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:17:35 AM
Honestly don't know. It's getting farcical when we're starting a 19 year old in his place, something's not right.
It's not. It's fairly obvious why he started Vuckic, I don't get why people make out otherwise.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Stu on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:20:05 AM
pardew siad he saw enough against west brom for him to start tonight....i didn't.

2 shots does not a good game from centre mid make!
My question is, why not start him against Bolton?
Manager in "different tactics" shocker :lol:


Christ, some people are desperate for a stick to flog him with :lol: :(
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: samag on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:20:42 AM
Was a shame tonight. The lad never stopped working, tried his best, but just couldn't get into it. Shrugged off the ball at nigh on every opportunity, wayward balls, just generally looked off the pace. Look forward to him getting some more opportunities this season in better circumstances, ie not getting thrown in in against the likes of Liverpool.
The Liverpool who  were one point above us before the game ,with a midfield that included Henderson and Spearing .
 Still early days for the lad good experience for him today, Just think Liverpool are not as good as the media make them out to be.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Stu on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:25:26 AM
Was a shame tonight. The lad never stopped working, tried his best, but just couldn't get into it. Shrugged off the ball at nigh on every opportunity, wayward balls, just generally looked off the pace. Look forward to him getting some more opportunities this season in better circumstances, ie not getting thrown in in against the likes of Liverpool.

:dowie: were you watching the right game? He brushed off plenty of Liverpool pressure, see his delightful cameo in the second half for a pointed example of him keeping the ball under pressure (about 4 different attempts to bundle him off the ball were thwarted before he rolled the ball out to Tiote IIRC).

Yes, there were occasions where Liverpool got back in numbers and hounded him off the ball, but that was symptomatic of their team performance and all of our players were 'guilty' (wrong word) of this - even the industrious Tiote.

Lack of movement on the flanks hardly helped the central midfielders in a quick ball distribution; however, it was interesting/positive to see that when we did keep the ball in the second half, it was due to Vuckic dropping off and playing quick one-twos with our other players.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Zero on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:28:16 AM
FFS, you have to give him experience against big teams.  That's the price we have to pay for bringing these youngsters up.  This is not FM.  I am sure Vuckic takes a huge lot from this match where he has had very little time and space to play with. Of coz it's easy to say "let him shine against the weak teams and let him wait for the big teams", seems the best for every parties and we don't need to pay the education cost eh?

If you know this player has a great future, play him, don't hide him against the superior sides. That's how players like Gerrard and Totti becomes legendary players.  They look s*** and out of their depth during their early days as well.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Stottie on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:35:29 AM
Not his fault but he shouldn't have played. To put him in away from home against a strong team in a formation the lads aren't used to is poor management. Pards should have stuck with the team that got the second half win at Bolton.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Stu on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:37:15 AM
Not his fault but he shouldn't have played. To put him in away from home against a strong team in a formation the lads aren't used to is poor management. Pards should have stuck with the team that got the second half win at Bolton.

:dowie: that didn't work very well in the second half, what makes you think it would have worked without Santon?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: samag on Saturday 31 December 2011, 05:00:16 AM
FFS, you have to give him experience against big teams.  That's the price we have to pay for bringing these youngsters up.  This is not FM.  I am sure Vuckic takes a huge lot from this match where he has had very little time and space to play with. Of coz it's easy to say "let him shine against the weak teams and let him wait for the big teams", seems the best for every parties and we don't need to pay the education cost eh?

If you know this player has a great future, play him, don't hide him against the superior sides. That's how players like Gerrard and Totti becomes legendary players.  They look s*** and out of their depth during their early days as well.
got to agree with most of this
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Beezeri on Saturday 31 December 2011, 08:12:59 AM
Started badly but improved a lot as the game progressed. Clearly had a mental issue to start against such a big team and ahead of HBA when the Frenchman was fit but dealt with it pretty nicely. At start looked very slow to react and was afraid to use his strenghts but is't that the case with every young player. Pards just has to go through this phase with Haris and I think he actually did better than Ben Arfa and our game died after the sub but I guess it was more down to Liverpool improving.

Take Obertan(are someone still taking about Jonas' lack of final product?) out of the starting XI and replace him with HBA and keep Haris there as well
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Saturday 31 December 2011, 08:14:26 AM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Shayno on Saturday 31 December 2011, 08:33:55 AM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Doesn't help. Do people agree with me that speed is important for any second striker? Which is why I'm hoping he will turn into an iniesta type player on the left of a midfield 3
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Beezeri on Saturday 31 December 2011, 08:43:56 AM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Doesn't help. Do people agree with me that speed is important for any second striker? Which is why I'm hoping he will turn into an iniesta type player on the left of a midfield 3

There are a few more important things for a second striker than speed I guess. How about passing, vision, creativity, dribbling just couple to mention? Doesn't some Jari Litmanen ring any bells? Always one of the slowest players on the pitch but the rest of his abilities made him one of the best players in world in his time!

Maybe pace is more important in English football but it's not totally necessary to have
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: The Prophet on Saturday 31 December 2011, 09:53:35 AM
Looked really nervous, every time he got the ball he seemed to panic.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: stozo on Saturday 31 December 2011, 09:57:53 AM
It's a shame that he and Sammy are needed as back-up for the first team and I think both could really do with a couple of months on loan in Championship.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 31 December 2011, 10:01:16 AM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Doesn't help. Do people agree with me that speed is important for any second striker? Which is why I'm hoping he will turn into an iniesta type player on the left of a midfield 3

Centre mid definitely looks like his position, either as a playmaker or attacking midfielder. A second striker maybe doesn't have to be blindingly quick, but Vuckic is very slow and struggled to get away from challenges.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skirge on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:03:56 PM
Quote
United boss has growing admiration for Haris Vuckic
by Lee Ryder, Evening ChronicleDec 31 2011Comments (13) Recommend (3)

ALAN PARDEW expects Haris Vuckic to continue to grow in stature after handing the Slovenian his second start on the first-team stage with Newcastle United.

Vuckic played his part in United’s first goal at Anfield in seven years when charging down the ball with his face for the opening goal of the game.

Pardew – notably – gave Vuckic the nod ahead of Hatem Ben Arfa, who had been expected to get a start after his heroics at Bolton Wanderers on Boxing Day.

Reflecting on Vuckic’s performance, Pardew told the Chronicle: “I thought Haris grew into the game.

“You’d expect that. It is at Anfield, and Liverpool have some great players, but we went toe-to-toe with them.

“Hatem was always going to be first choice to come on, but the game had perhaps gone away by then.”


Pardew, however, had to concede that Steven Gerrard changed the game.

He added: “He is a world-class player, and 20 minutes of Steven Gerrard can affect any game.

“Having said that, I still think there were periods when he was on the pitch when we did very well, but the goal changed that.”

One bonus for Pardew was that Cheick Tiote and Fabricio Coloccini managed to reach the end of the year without a caution, with the disciplinary slate now wiped clean.

He said: “They were very professional. You couldn’t say Cheick pulled out of anything. He was in the midst of everything, but he didn’t get booked.”

Tiote feels Wednesday’s game with Man United will be his last before African Cup of Nations duty calls.

However, Pardew is still hoping to include him in his side for the FA Cup tie with Blackburn. He added: “Hopefully, we will have Cheick and Demba Ba for January 7.”

Manchester City are still fighting to retain Yaya and Koulo Toure until January 15.

Pardew will ask for the same treatment should they be successful.

He said: “We’re watching all of that. If Yaya Toure doesn’t go until later in the month, why should Cheick go? We are all in the same boat.”


Pardew confirmed he substituted full-back Ryan Taylor as a precaution, the Scouser having picked up a booking.



Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/12/31/united-boss-has-growing-admiration-for-haris-vuckic-72703-30037666/2/#ixzz1i834JHC8 (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/12/31/united-boss-has-growing-admiration-for-haris-vuckic-72703-30037666/2/#ixzz1i834JHC8)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:05:38 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: madras on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:07:44 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.
totally. his lack of pace would be easily compensated for by intelligent movement and vision. (both things sadly lacking from our entire team at the moment)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Frazzle on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:09:46 PM
Once he got more confident he started creating a bit more space for himself with some clever turns and touches.  Once he's fully confident and got more experience his pace won't be such a big issue, as Nixon and madras have pointed out as well.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:10:37 PM
It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: madras on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:12:19 PM
It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances.
what position out of curiosity ?

i've only seen his first team games and don't think he has enough to play central midfield or off a forward, still he's yopung and plenty time left.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: johnnypd on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:14:43 PM
It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances.

he said "at the moment" to be fair. he's clearly got potential, i just wish we were able to send him on loan for a bit to let him get experience and make mistakes for someone else.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:16:53 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: johnnypd on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:22:07 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured

now that IS daft
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:22:25 PM
It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances.
what position out of curiosity ?

i've only seen his first team games and don't think he has enough to play central midfield or off a forward, still he's yopung and plenty time left.
I think he works best in a 3 man midfield, next to Cabaye and infront of Tiote. Ok he isn't blessed with rapid pace, but his technique isn't in question, his shots against West Brom looked quite dangerous in fact.

His only problem is a lack of movement from Obertan/Jonas. Ba is doing all he can and has made some great runs, but neither winger seems to run in behind the fullback. Meaning that they're not getting that chance to play more direct passes.

I'd be curious to see Ben Arfa out wide and se what happens.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:24:07 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured

now that IS daft

He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed

His size is the reason he is getting a game at the moment, but it will soon become apparant he is not good enough and that he is too pedestrian. What Riquelme lacked in pace he had in brain speed and he had that in abundance

He may score a couple of worldies but his overall play will not be enough
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skirge on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:24:55 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured

now that IS daft

He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed

:lol:
He will be but not for us
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Frazzle on Saturday 31 December 2011, 04:25:29 PM
He's a year or two away from Championship football?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: thenige on Saturday 31 December 2011, 05:38:52 PM
System yesterday didn't help him, had few touches of the ball (likewise Ben Arfa when he came on) due to our poor distribution from the back and lack of support out wide. Think it's far far too early to write him off, I still have very high hopes for him
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Saturday 31 December 2011, 08:41:28 PM
Good for folk to rule him out for the next few seasons after 2 starts :lol:

If I was put on the pitch infront of 52,000 folk I'd s*** me kegs and start crying. He's doing remarkably well for a 19 year old and has had a few good moments too. Give him a few more starts to settle in and we'll see a great player come out of it.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 31 December 2011, 08:42:59 PM
His ball retention is very good for someone of his age. He's also remarkably strong too, the more I see of Vuckic the more I think he'll be a success here.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 31 December 2011, 09:05:12 PM
He really should have been sent on loan last season (I know he was injured for parts of it) plus he should have got more minutes in the Championship

The system yesterday did not suit him especially since we just lumped it long. Also it would help if our wingers offered a threat going forward, that would open up the space for Vuckic or whoever plays in that position
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ash on Saturday 31 December 2011, 09:52:03 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured

now that IS daft

He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed

His size is the reason he is getting a game at the moment, but it will soon become apparant he is not good enough and that he is too pedestrian. What Riquelme lacked in pace he had in brain speed and he had that in abundance

He may score a couple of worldies but his overall play will not be enough

Absolute s****. Superb last minute entry for worst post of the year though.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Saturday 31 December 2011, 09:56:11 PM
Considering who we have seen play premiership football in the last two years I'd say he has as good a chance as any
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 31 December 2011, 10:08:14 PM
It's a shame he's had so little playing time over the last two years do to injury or lack of being loaned out.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Sunday 8 January 2012, 06:57:12 PM
Not quite as big a fan of Barcelona as some on here.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 8 January 2012, 06:57:55 PM
Eh?  :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sifu on Sunday 8 January 2012, 07:02:26 PM
Vuckic posted a video on Facebook entitled: FC Barcelona - Cheaters, Liers, Actors ?? ALL true *for FCB Supporters
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Sunday 8 January 2012, 07:04:03 PM
With the comment 'I'm not saying a thing'. :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 8 January 2012, 07:08:04 PM
Sure he said he was a Madrid fan at one point. Might have been a favoured club on FM too.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 8 January 2012, 07:10:34 PM
Did he not play as Madrid on that daft Fifa game against Rodney?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Sunday 8 January 2012, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: Haris
Mascherano, Hollywood is waiting for u :)

:lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 8 January 2012, 07:13:02 PM
Ask him what he thinks of Marcelo and Di Maria.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 8 January 2012, 08:15:30 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured

now that IS daft

He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed

His size is the reason he is getting a game at the moment, but it will soon become apparant he is not good enough and that he is too pedestrian. What Riquelme lacked in pace he had in brain speed and he had that in abundance

He may score a couple of worldies but his overall play will not be enough
Honestly think this couldn't be further from the truth. You look at the West Brom game , he played a pass few of his teammates would of seen. It was inches from being the best pass of our season. This lad has undoubted talent, but he requires work.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 8 January 2012, 08:47:57 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured

now that IS daft

He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed

His size is the reason he is getting a game at the moment, but it will soon become apparant he is not good enough and that he is too pedestrian. What Riquelme lacked in pace he had in brain speed and he had that in abundance

He may score a couple of worldies but his overall play will not be enough
Honestly think this couldn't be further from the truth. You look at the West Brom game , he played a pass few of his teammates would of seen. It was inches from being the best pass of our season. This lad has undoubted talent, but he requires work.


Completely agree with this and can't believe someone would say he is only getting a game because of his size, you only have to look at the games he has played to see has far more to his game than just his size.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Roids on Sunday 8 January 2012, 09:06:06 PM
Average at best at the moment

His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian
Riquelme says Hi.

Embarassing comparison

Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership.

He is very laboured
Writing off a promising young player after 2 games.... :lol:
Shola can manage 12 yrs at the top level but it's over for Vuckic already right? gtfo tbh! :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 08:54:33 PM
lee_ryder Lee Ryder
One thing seems obvious to me, Haris Vuckic is a class above now when playing in the reserves - only there for match fitness #nufc

Nice to hear, bright future this kid have  O0
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:04:00 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:04:51 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:06:08 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:

¡Hala Madrid!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: MrSundlofer on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:08:01 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:

No he's Bosnian.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:09:51 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:

No he's Bosnian.

No he's Slovenian mate. Parents are Bosnian but he was raised in Slovenia and considers himself a Slovenian.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:10:24 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:

¡Hala Madrid!

We'll see who's laughing at the end of the season.... :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: MrSundlofer on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:14:10 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:

No he's Bosnian.

No he's Slovenian mate. Parents are Bosnian but he was raised in Slovenia and considers himself a Slovenian.

No!  :idiot2:

Haris Vučkić: "I born and grow up in Slovenia but I'm Bosnian."
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:15:42 PM
:lol:

Yeah Dino, the f*** do you know, shut your pie hole
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:18:58 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:

No he's Bosnian.

No he's Slovenian mate. Parents are Bosnian but he was raised in Slovenia and considers himself a Slovenian.

No!  :idiot2:

Haris Vučkić: "I born and grow up in Slovenia but I'm Bosnian."

:lol: I've f***ing talked to him about it man. Oh well, we can go off those quotes.  :okay:


:lol:

Yeah Dino, the f*** do you know, shut your pie hole

f*** you dick face, not going to be giggling when I tear you a new hole on Fifa tonight.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:20:49 PM
:lol:

Yeah Dino, the f*** do you know, shut your pie hole

f*** you dick face, not going to be giggling when I tear you a new hole on Fifa tonight.

Bouncin' from work in 5. Maybe be back around 10. I can refer you to my average commute spreadsheet, but the sample so far is only 5 days, so the average isn't really reliable yet.

Oh, and Haris hates Bosnia and Barca.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:23:47 PM
:lol:

Yeah Dino, the f*** do you know, shut your pie hole

f*** you dick face, not going to be giggling when I tear you a new hole on Fifa tonight.

Bouncin' from work in 5. Maybe be back around 10. I can refer you to my average commute spreadsheet, but the sample so far is only 5 days, so the average isn't really reliable yet.

Oh, and Haris hates Bosnia and Barca.

Fine with me, as long as he loves NUFC.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: thomas on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:25:30 PM
Had to wiki him after this back and forth.  knew he was tallish but not 6'3".  Nailed on to be the next Ballack imo. 
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:41:20 PM
HA

He hates Barca!

Sweet. Stick that in your Bosnian Pipe DINO.

f*** do I care? The lad's Slovenian  :aww:

No he's Bosnian.

No he's Slovenian mate. Parents are Bosnian but he was raised in Slovenia and considers himself a Slovenian.

No!  :idiot2:

Haris Vučkić: "I born and grow up in Slovenia but I'm Bosnian."

Pretty sure Dino actually knows him.  :laugh:

Edit: oh, that's been established
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:45:55 PM
No!  :idiot2:

Oh dear. :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: MrSundlofer on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:50:44 PM
No!  :idiot2:

Oh dear. :lol:

Oh dear what?  :idiot2: ... ;)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9591/harise.png)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 09:56:07 PM
 :megusta:
ME GILLA
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 10:02:25 PM
Oh damn, this s*** is SO on.

*ding ding ding*
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 10:04:16 PM
:megusta:
ME GILLA


 :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 10 January 2012, 11:16:39 PM
No!  :idiot2:

Oh dear. :lol:

Oh dear what?  :idiot2: ... ;)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9591/harise.png)

I can only go off what I've heard and the team he chooses to play for. Would love him playing for Bosnia mind.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 11 January 2012, 12:04:07 AM
:megusta:
ME GILLA


 :lol:

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 1 February 2012, 07:02:34 PM
Am i the only one worried by his sudden disappearance? not heard anything about him since that reserves game in which someone said that he was a class above the rest of the players on the pitch.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 1 February 2012, 07:06:12 PM
Not in the slightest worried.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 1 February 2012, 07:06:46 PM
Not worried at all.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: EthiGeordie on Wednesday 1 February 2012, 07:32:21 PM
So worried from starting place against Liverpool out of the squad now when we are missing at least 5 starting players?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 1 February 2012, 07:52:22 PM
Couldn't worry less
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Wednesday 1 February 2012, 07:57:02 PM
Am i the only one worried by his sudden disappearance? not heard anything about him since that reserves game in which someone said that he was a class above the rest of the players on the pitch.

Probably injured again
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:13:22 PM
Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 
Sources in Cardiff claiming they are close to a loan move for Haris Vuckic #nufc #ccfc

Thoughts? If it is true ofcourse, iam in two minds about it tbh on one hand it would good for him to get a run of games and get some experience but on the other hand iam worried about the squad depth as it is.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: STM on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:16:04 PM
Good move. Needs first team football he aint going to get it here. Especially after the spurs game.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dr Venkman on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:18:22 PM
send him
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Jagten on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:24:30 PM
Hes got no sources  :lol:
he just read this.  http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/football-news/2012/02/09/cardiff-city-on-verge-of-completing-loan-move-for-newcastle-united-midfielder-haris-vuckic-91466-30298911/ (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/football-news/2012/02/09/cardiff-city-on-verge-of-completing-loan-move-for-newcastle-united-midfielder-haris-vuckic-91466-30298911/)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:26:05 PM
That would still be a 'source' though it does show how s*** Journalism is these days that people just rehash each other's stories.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Dave on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:28:23 PM
Good move. Needs first team football he aint going to get it here. Especially after the spurs game.

This.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Jagten on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:29:13 PM
That would still be a 'source' though it does show how s*** Journalism is these days that people just rehash each other's stories.
Its misleading though... it gives the impression he has some insider knowledge, which he doesn't. He could have just linked the story.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Willow on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:33:51 PM
Definitely needs to be loaned, he's only going to get better.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: je85 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:42:37 PM
Great news. I feel we have never exploited the loan system well for younger players. Spurs, Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea all used it well for players recently.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:44:51 PM
Does this mean I've got to post on a Cardiff forum?

Me Sewelly :megusta:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:48:40 PM
He'll tear the championship a new one.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: madras on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:49:26 PM
He'll tear the championship a new one.
not so sure about that but it'll help him develop.
Title: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Ryan on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Really good move if it happens, definitely good enough to be in the first 11. Hope we put a recall option in though knowing our luck with injuries.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 9 February 2012, 01:54:25 PM
He'll tear the championship a new one.
not so sure about that but it'll help him develop.
Aye was just being a bit OTT. He certainly has an eye for goal and i would back him to get a few while there.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: ohmelads on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:00:38 PM
With Tiote and Cabaye back after Spurs and Cisse now here he's not gonna get a look in which is a shame as he clearly has a lot of potential.

Championship seems perfect for him to get the pitch time and confidence. If he performs at that level it'll elevate his status and he'll get more of a chance when he comes back. It's worked well for us in the past with Krul and Carroll.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: wormy on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:01:08 PM
Very pleased to hear this. Of all players, I can't help but want to see this guy develop. :aww:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:01:50 PM
Shame he's cup-tied for the CC Final.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Wallace on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:02:47 PM
Official text - joined Cardiff on an initial on month loan.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:02:54 PM
That would still be a 'source' though it does show how s*** Journalism is these days that people just rehash each other's stories.
Its misleading though... it gives the impression he has some insider knowledge, which he doesn't. He could have just linked the story.
There are no morals in Journalism.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to join Cardiff City on loan?
Post by: Beren on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:03:47 PM
Good s***. :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:06:26 PM
http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2605260,00.html (http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2605260,00.html)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: timeEd32 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:06:27 PM
Excellent news.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: High Five o/ on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:06:36 PM
Nice, good move for him.
 :aww:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: maybe_next_year on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:07:15 PM
good luck to him, looks like he could be a cracking player.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:09:57 PM
I guess he'll room with that Filip Kiss lad down there.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:11:06 PM
I guess he'll room with that Filip Kiss lad down there.

Any other reasoning apart from their countries are in the same general vicinity?  :lol:

Good move for him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:11:27 PM
Hopefully he can get a run of games and not be sat on the bench

Think this will work out to be a great move for him
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Fenham Mag on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:12:01 PM
I guess he'll room with that Filip Kiss lad down there.

Any other reasoning apart from their countries are in the same general vicinity?  :lol:

Good move for him.

No :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: arnonel on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:13:59 PM
GREAT news!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: MW on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:16:13 PM
good
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Good Move but Pardew has messed him around a bit mind.

Starts v West Brom and then at Liverpool and no games since.  How is the lad supposed to get into some form.....
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: 54 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:17:54 PM
Good news, he needs match time :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:21:55 PM
He just needs to play. Shame we couldn't have got him a Premiership Club like Norwich or Wigan, but it should be good experience for the lad.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:22:16 PM
Does this mean I've got to post on a Cardiff forum?

Me Sewelly :megusta:

Nice :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:22:46 PM
Good news :thup: might even watch a few Cardiff games now. Is he def cup-tied for the CC final?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Dave on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:26:08 PM
Good news :thup: might even watch a few Cardiff games now. Is he def cup-tied for the CC final?

Yeah.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: MW on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:32:37 PM
think playing for a team doing well in its league will be great for him. hopefully he plays a key role for the next month
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: 54 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:35:15 PM
think playing for a team doing well in its league will be great for him. hopefully he plays a key role for the next month
:pilko:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: MW on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:38:10 PM
think playing for a team doing well in its league will be great for him. hopefully he plays a key role for the next month
:pilko:

 O0
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: timeEd32 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:38:57 PM
Loan is through March 10, which is six league games. Hopefully gets extended beyond that, assuming he's playing.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: oldtype on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:41:19 PM
Great news. Hope he does better than the last few players we loaned to the Championship.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 9 February 2012, 02:49:24 PM
:thup:

It's a good move for all concerned. Firstly, Haris will get valuable first team football and secondly, he'll more than likely come back a better player on the back of such an experience.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 9 February 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Thats awesome, i love this guy and really hope he makes it into our first team, will be following Cardiff closely now.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: arnonel on Thursday 9 February 2012, 03:16:04 PM
interesting that its straight to championship and not first to league 1, and also that its a club challenging for promotion
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Roger Kint on Thursday 9 February 2012, 03:17:28 PM
interesting that its straight to championship and not first to league 1, and also that its a club challenging for promotion

Didnt Pardew say he was considering him for a Championship club either at the end of last season or during the summer? As he started two games over xmas i seriously doubt we would waste time sending him further down.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: oldtype on Thursday 9 February 2012, 03:20:13 PM
You'd certainly hope that he's already far too good for league one given that he's started two games for us.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: ATB on Thursday 9 February 2012, 03:25:50 PM
Superb :thup:

also good that it is a decent team in CCC and not some dross in league one or lower like we use too.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Thursday 9 February 2012, 03:30:21 PM
From their forum:

"Cardiff City sign Newcastle player on loan "

:lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: H09 on Thursday 9 February 2012, 03:34:07 PM
Hope he starts for them or its not worth it
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 9 February 2012, 05:17:55 PM
thought he was good enough to be on bench for us, but hopefully he makes a few starts and they extend the loan.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Jayson on Thursday 9 February 2012, 05:20:39 PM
Glad about this. Guthries rise of form & Cisse coming in means he probably wouldnt get much here atm. Deserves to be starting though to prove himself.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Anderson on Thursday 9 February 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Hopefully he shines in the games he plays and the loan is extended until the end of the season. An extended run of games should do him wonders.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 9 February 2012, 06:19:45 PM
Hopefully he shines in the games he plays and the loan is extended until the end of the season. An extended run of games should do him wonders.

:nods:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Thursday 9 February 2012, 06:22:42 PM
Great move for him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Ginola on Thursday 9 February 2012, 07:13:25 PM
Good move, providing he gets a lot of game time there.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Thursday 9 February 2012, 07:43:34 PM
Good move, providing he gets a lot of game time there.

At his best he's good enough to start for a lower half side in the Premiership, so I can't see why Cardiff would loan him and bench him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: midds on Thursday 9 February 2012, 08:27:47 PM
The lad needs games and hopefully he'll get plenty of them at Cardiff. With a bit of luck he'll do well and go out on loan for a whole season then come back to us a much better player.

He's not going to improve sitting on our bench so we may as well send him out. 
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 9 February 2012, 08:41:25 PM
It's about time we loaned him to the Championship. Good luck to the lad and I'm sure it'll be a great experience for him, which we'll ultimately benefit from.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 9 February 2012, 08:44:54 PM
Can see him doing well there. He's good enough to start in this division imo, so I can see him being quite effective for a Championship side who are doing well.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Cronky on Thursday 9 February 2012, 08:51:55 PM
Here's hoping this will help him raise his game by that all-important notch.

I'm still waiting for the game where he really shows he's destined for the top level. I'm not convinced about him yet.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: hakka on Thursday 9 February 2012, 09:11:40 PM
He needs a run of games but we've not seen enough from him to justify being regular for us yet, but he's clearly got bags of potential. Some incredible long range shooting. If can get some decent games down there and perhaps get a loan extension until end of season. We really need a youngster to come good next season.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: worthy on Thursday 9 February 2012, 09:25:53 PM
I seriously hopes this is his chance. Would love him to step up to PL next season!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: thenige on Thursday 9 February 2012, 11:50:44 PM
Reckon he'll play about two games as substitute then come back. Just get a horrible feeling about it.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: TRC on Thursday 9 February 2012, 11:52:02 PM
Yep same here. Who is in Cardiffs midfield?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 10 February 2012, 12:01:37 AM
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VUČKIĆ PROMISES MAXIMUM CLOUT

"I know that I'm on loan from Newcastle but I'm ready to play and give my best for the Club.

"The manager is a very good man and a nice person and I'm looking forward to playing for him. We're both very enthusiastic and I think we can work well.

"I came down to see the facilities on Thursday ahead of linking up with the other players for training on Friday morning. I like what I've seen - an excellent stadium with great facilities!"

With reference to the Bluebirds' passionate home support, Haris added: "I've been told how loud and passionate Cardiff City supporters are and I'll be used to that having been at Newcastle for a few years. Hopefully I'll be able to experience it in person soon at Cardiff City Stadium - I can't wait."

Born in Ljubljana, the Slovenian capital, Haris boasts a 6'3" frame and a keen eye for goal. As to what he will be contributing to City's promotion push he said: "I'm an attacking player and I like to play a quick one-touch game going forward.

"Cardiff have some very good players and I know a lot about players like Kenny Miller and Peter Whittingham for example; it's exciting to think of playing and linking up with players like them.

"Cardiff City have a good chance of getting promoted to the Premier League and while I'm here I will be trying my best and hardest to help them do that. I train for the first time on Friday ahead of our game against Leicester and will get to know the other players a bit. Then, if I'm involved against Leicester, I'll be giving my maximum - as always."

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2605708,00.html (http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2605708,00.html)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: binnsy on Friday 10 February 2012, 12:08:42 AM
hope our loan jinx doesn't strike again, especially with Haris's injury record..... i think Tavernier is the only player we've sent out on loan who hasn't got crocked.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Sifu on Friday 10 February 2012, 12:13:10 AM
hope our loan jinx doesn't strike again, especially with Haris's injury record..... i think Tavernier is the only player we've sent out on loan who hasn't got crocked.

Think you may have just jinxed it there :laugh:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Friday 10 February 2012, 06:58:41 AM
Excited to be linking up with Kenny Miller :undecided: :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Stephen927 on Friday 10 February 2012, 10:36:38 AM
Aye. Cut the s***, Haris. :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: SteveMc on Friday 10 February 2012, 09:10:39 PM
Good move for him.  Didn't like seeing him holding up a minature Cardiff shirt though
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Conjo on Friday 10 February 2012, 09:18:46 PM
Excited to be linking up with Kenny Miller :undecided: :lol:

(http://www.sundaypost.com/Images/sport3_Motdtop_Aug8.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4686/screenshot20120210at101.png)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Lenny on Saturday 11 February 2012, 12:27:45 AM
Colo looks really skinny in that picture.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: geordie jamie on Saturday 11 February 2012, 02:19:05 PM
Starts for Cardiff apparently. Good luck Haris
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Dave on Saturday 11 February 2012, 02:22:18 PM
http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2607535,00.html (http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2607535,00.html)

:thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Sifu on Saturday 11 February 2012, 02:26:44 PM
Best of luck Haris!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Saturday 11 February 2012, 02:27:27 PM
Good.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 11 February 2012, 02:32:38 PM
Good stuff. Hope he does himself proud.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 11 February 2012, 02:37:09 PM
Best of luck, hope he scores a cracker.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: aussiemag on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:02:24 PM
gave away a penalty
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:03:51 PM
Excited to be linking up with Kenny Miller :undecided: :lol:

Howay man, Kenny Miller is a really good championship striker. People just assume he's s*** since he's Scottish.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:05:14 PM
gave away a penalty

According to BBC someone called Kiss conceded the penalty   :undecided:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:06:02 PM
Excited to be linking up with Kenny Miller :undecided: :lol:

Howay man, Kenny Miller is a really good championship striker. People just assume he's s*** since he's Scottish.

He is s*** because he's Scottish.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Dave on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:06:53 PM
gave away a penalty

According to BBC someone called Kiss conceded the penalty   :undecided:

Vuckic according to people on one of their forums.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Dave on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:07:11 PM
Taken off now.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:08:11 PM
HAULED off.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Numbers on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:08:49 PM
Filip Kiss conceded the penalty according to Sky.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:21:32 PM
Bad debut, don't understand why they took him off between halves and replaced him with a s*** striker.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Dave on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:22:07 PM
Bad debut, don't understand why they took him off between halves and replaced him with a s*** striker.

Did you watch it?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:22:45 PM
Bad debut, don't understand why they took him off between halves and replaced him with a s*** striker.

Did you watch it?

No but i've been reading the updates and didn't see his name untill he was taken off.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Dave on Saturday 11 February 2012, 04:23:02 PM
Ah right, obviously a bad debut then. :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 12 February 2012, 12:05:32 AM
Definitely Vuckic that conceded the pen.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 12 February 2012, 12:10:08 AM
Had a bit of a mare by the sounds of, but they're also saying it was their worst performance as a team this season.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 07:18:04 PM
Starting again tonight, hope he does well.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Ryan on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 07:20:37 PM
Starting again tonight, hope he does well.

:thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Oakie Doke on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:28:58 PM
HE SCORED!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: BeloEmre on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:30:49 PM
 :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: geordie jamie on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:30:49 PM
Well done Haris
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Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:30:55 PM
Yep just scored to put them 3-0 up
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić joins Cardiff City on initial one-month loan
Post by: Ryan on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:31:13 PM
 :indi:
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Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:31:22 PM
Nice :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:32:14 PM
Champion  :cheesy:
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Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:32:32 PM
f*** yeah, Hero.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:33:18 PM
I feel like seeing one of Kasper's videos with his face in it now. Also, the goal.
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Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:35:28 PM
:banana:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Smal on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 08:42:10 PM
 :aww:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 09:03:44 PM
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Goal - Haris Vuckic - Cardiff 3 - 0 Peterboro Haris Vuckic finds the back of the net with a goal from close range to the bottom right corner of the goal. Cardiff 3-0 Peterborough.

Not a long-range Haris special.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Ishmael on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 09:24:49 PM
IIRC anywhere within the opponents half is considered close range for wor Haris :smug:
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Post by: 54 on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 09:34:13 PM
Took off.
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Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 09:36:57 PM
Hauled off.

FYP.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Big Geordie on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:03:41 PM
Well done Haris. His first 'goal' in English football unless I'm mistaken?
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Post by: H09 on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:04:15 PM
Welsh football
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Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:08:27 PM
Well done Haris. His first 'goal' in English football unless I'm mistaken?

First start and first goal in English football both against the Posh.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:11:18 PM
Just showed it on SSN. Found himself in a really good area and a nice little finish.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:13:15 PM
Hope he finds a real eye for goal down there. Something we could do with from midfield and if he could turn into that then happy days.
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Post by: Unbelievable! on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:13:27 PM
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58502000/jpg/_58502582_cdf_140212_cardiff_v_peterborough_13.jpg)
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Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:17:41 PM
 :celb: :celb:
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Post by: Kasper on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:22:05 PM
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/kasper36/Newcastle%20United%20FC%20-%20The%20Animated%20Series/haris1spin.gif?t=1329258089)



(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/kasper36/Newcastle%20United%20FC%20-%20The%20Animated%20Series/th_haris1spin2.gif)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: TRC on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:22:31 PM
Chuffed for the lad. Would like to see him get quite a few starts next season, although I'm not sure where he would fit in.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: palnese on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:30:14 PM
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71743 (http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71743)

vucitch :lol:
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Post by: JH on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:53:51 PM
Where's he playing for them?
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Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:56:16 PM
Where's he playing for them?

From that thread:

Quote
I had been concerned as we had seemed to change our system to fit him in, 4-3-1-2 system which I found strange playing Rudy with very little width. Thought Rudy had a very good game and with a bit more composure should have had a hat trick, Vuckic will get better after tonight and will recognise the need to improve his work ethic too.

I imagine the '1' in that system?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:56:58 PM
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Thought he looked s*** to be honest, wasnt really involved and never tried to get involved

Quote
I think you must have been watching a different game pal. When we gave him the ball, he was classy and used it very well. Took his goal nicely and that was the icing on top of a very good performance,
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 10:58:05 PM
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71751 (http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71751)

One guy gives him an 8, the other a 7.
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Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 11:01:03 PM
Does he get to play in the lc final?
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Post by: Dave on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Does he get to play in the lc final?

Nope, cup-tied.
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Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 11:01:58 PM
Does he get to play in the lc final?

Nah, cup tied after that sub appearance for us against Scunny. Sick.
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Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 11:02:02 PM
Cup-tied I believe.
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Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 11:04:33 PM
Gutter for him. Imagine if he scored the winner?  :lol:

Instant hero, and a medal oh well :(
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 11:05:31 PM
(http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/javaImages/d9/b/0,,10335~10488793,00.jpg)

 :troll:
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Post by: Smal on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 11:42:40 PM
Sounds like he was a bit lazy/not getting involved enough. Never getting in our team then :lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Smal on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:28:32 AM
From a Cardiff fan:

Got into the game more as it went along, won the ball brilliantly on the half-way line, played a 1-2 with Miller and squared a lovely ball to play Gestede in, before passing to Miller who's shot got cleared off the line, we scored from the resulting corner. He found a good position for his goal, got a bit lucky with a flick-on if I remember before tucking into the net as expected, nice and cool. Looks good when on the ball but wasn't on it that much, seems confident and I think he'll just get better and better with more games, Malky said in his post match interview something along the lines of hopefully he'll maintain these performances until the end of the season, so hopefully we can have him until then! I really do think first-team football here until the end of the season rather than 1 month will benefit him more, as players such as Tom Cleverly have benefited.

Sounds promising.
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Post by: Oakie Doke on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:32:21 AM
this guy's gonna be good.
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Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:33:27 AM
Sounds a lot like his few appearances for us this season, does good things when he's on the ball, just doesn't get as involved in the game like a player in that position should. I'm really excited about his future though, looks really promising.
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Post by: Haris Vuckic on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:33:57 AM
 :megusta:
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Post by: alexthegreat on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:40:34 AM
When I've seen him I've thought he looked good on the ball and can find a pass as well, also appears to have a hammer of a shot. Unfortunately has also seemed to have the mobility of Alan Smith, and doesn't yet anticipate well enough to make up for it. I'm hopeful that an extended loan spell could be the making of him, will be very interested to see how he does.
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Post by: Willow on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:45:47 AM
I think a loan or 2 will have a big impact on his game, like how Krul improved his after spells in Scotland.

I see him being a big player for us in the future and wish him well.
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Post by: Craig-NUFC on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:47:25 AM
Would be decent to see him go on loan to a lower PL club next year. Southampton would be a good option, if they were to get promoted.
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Post by: Smal on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 12:55:20 AM
Would be even better if he helped get Cardiff promoted this season and then went back next season too. Although if he does well enough now, then I see no reason why we couldn't use him next season.

He does seem to be lacking in terms of how quick he is off the mark. Seems quite fast over distance though.
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Post by: ujpest doza on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 09:56:46 AM
Just showed it on SSN. Found himself in a really good area and a nice little finish.
He also set up the goal before that as well.
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Post by: Dr Venkman on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 09:59:36 AM
Long term I think he might struggle for not really having a position.
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Post by: Lush Vlad on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 10:05:46 AM
Long term I think he might struggle for not really having a position.

That's my worry.  Looks as if he can play behind the striker(s) and that's it.  Looked poor out wide and too slow and immobile in a flat midfield 4. 

Got a lot of talent and looks comfortable on the ball, would like to see him do well, hopefully for us!
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Post by: Shak on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 10:11:02 AM
Can see him as part of a midfield three, if Pardew wants to play a 4-5-1/4-3-3/4-2-3-1 long term then I could see him having a big role to play in the next few years.

Doesn't seem to fit a 4-4-2 to at all though, aye.
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Post by: Stephen927 on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 10:20:28 AM
Haris Vuckic...

Peep Show | Back in the Game | Channel 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XveT0dAznSk#ws)
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Post by: Smal on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Don't see why he couldn't be back up for Ba, tbh. Ba plays in the hole almost
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Post by: Haris Vuckic on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 01:48:37 PM
Haris Vuckic...

Peep Show | Back in the Game | Channel 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XveT0dAznSk#ws)

The megatron :lol:
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Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 02:42:56 PM
She's not too sexy, is she?
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Post by: MW on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 03:41:33 PM
motm according to a local paper
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Post by: thenige on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 04:09:08 PM
Why on earth has the BBC got highlights for the Championship, but not for any midweek games? Bit of a shambles that.
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Post by: MW on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 04:17:29 PM
think its normally 2 days after, not 100%
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Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 15 February 2012, 04:18:19 PM
Wont be any highlights I don't think, aren't they ripped from the FL show?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 16 February 2012, 11:03:30 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16921870 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16921870)

Match highlights.
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Post by: juniatmoko on Friday 17 February 2012, 04:21:26 PM
hope he stay longer at cardiff even 1 whole season to develop him as player...
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Post by: Anderson on Friday 17 February 2012, 04:26:10 PM
Tidy finish. :)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 17 February 2012, 04:43:12 PM
Wearing Demba Ba's lucky number!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: thenige on Saturday 18 February 2012, 02:55:25 PM
Left out the starting line up today.
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Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Saturday 18 February 2012, 04:01:36 PM
Hauled out the starting line-up
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Post by: junkhead on Saturday 18 February 2012, 04:39:45 PM
What's up with that 'hauled off' thing? Why is everybody using it all of a sudden?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Fenham Mag on Saturday 18 February 2012, 04:41:22 PM
What's up with that 'hauled off' thing? Why is everybody using it all of a sudden?

Mackems wanked them self silly when in their own words Ben Arfa was 'hauled off' in a game, its just a p*ss take out of the sad t***s.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 18 February 2012, 04:41:29 PM
What's up with that 'hauled off' thing? Why is everybody using it all of a sudden?

Taking the p*ss out of the mackems for HBA subbed, they described it as being 'hauled off' and made a huge deal about things. That's my take anyway.

Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 18 February 2012, 04:49:24 PM
It was that knacker wireside that came up with the hauled off nonsense
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 18 February 2012, 04:50:06 PM
We can change the thread title now
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 18 February 2012, 04:50:33 PM
Can we? That's nice.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 20 February 2012, 04:25:42 PM
Called up to full Slovenia team vs Scotland.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić scores for Cardiff City - YEAH!
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 20 February 2012, 04:27:17 PM
Called up to full Slovenia team vs Scotland.

Good stuff
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: frazernufc on Thursday 23 February 2012, 05:12:50 PM
Bigger news than an International call up is that he is now finally on Fifa Ultimate team for us!!!!! Bronze 63 rated CF :idiot2:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: thenige on Thursday 23 February 2012, 05:21:32 PM
Don't think him being a CF is that random to be honest. Probably the position I'd give him, that or AMC.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: frazernufc on Thursday 23 February 2012, 05:36:51 PM
I was ment to put hes right footed aswell in the game on the end, nah its i just think he should be rated at least silver on it
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Smal on Thursday 23 February 2012, 06:27:19 PM
His ratings are all over the place on FIFA, like
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Thursday 23 February 2012, 06:38:57 PM
Just started using Inman on Fifa - he's half decent.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: PENKAAA on Thursday 23 February 2012, 06:44:37 PM
His ratings are all over the place on FIFA, like

Yup, he was 68 two years ago.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 29 February 2012, 09:14:03 PM
Just came on against Scotland. Wearing the #11 shirt.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 29 February 2012, 09:15:35 PM
Switched the watching this game!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 29 February 2012, 09:15:55 PM
Just had a shot blocked.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Ishmael on Wednesday 29 February 2012, 09:16:27 PM
Haris :smug:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 29 February 2012, 09:17:11 PM
He's playing right midfield by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 29 February 2012, 09:39:22 PM
He played MR, didn't get the ball much but when he did his touch was superb, put in a few good crosses and had a blocked shot. also won his side a corner when he took on the Scottish Left back and had his cross blocked.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: arnonel on Monday 5 March 2012, 06:50:24 PM
Has he played again for Cardiff? Know they lost this weekend...
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić called up for Slovenia - YEAH!
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 March 2012, 07:07:14 PM
Yeah he's scored for them.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 6 March 2012, 12:49:33 AM
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2012/03/06/cardiff-city-to-extend-haris-vuckic-loan-deal-from-newcastle-united-91466-30465858/ (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2012/03/06/cardiff-city-to-extend-haris-vuckic-loan-deal-from-newcastle-united-91466-30465858/)
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HARIS Vuckic is sticking with Cardiff City’s chase to qualify for the Championship play-offs.

Slovenian teenager Vuckic is coming to the end of his one month loan spell, but City manager Malky Mackay and Newcastle United’s Alan Pardew have already agreed it will be extended until the end of this season.

The highly-rated Vuckic, 19, is eligible for tomorrow's Championship trip to Brighton and Saturday’s away match against Bristol City at Ashton Gate under his current agreement.

A loan extension will then be confirmed which will mean the 6ft 3ins Vuckic stays in the Bluebirds squad.

He has made four Championship appearances and scored one goal, adapting to the different style of football from the Premier League which gives him less time on the ball.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 6 March 2012, 12:52:05 AM
Good news :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 6 March 2012, 12:55:08 AM
Good to hear. The more first team experience he gets, the better it'll be for him and us in the long term.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 6 March 2012, 01:06:54 AM
Good news.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Shayno on Tuesday 6 March 2012, 04:50:55 AM
Saw him on the weekend against West Ham.

 - Lazy mofo, I wouldn't expect to see him in the team unless he improves his fitness/work-rate. I always thought his best position might be on the left on the midfield 3 but looks too slow around the pitch for that.
 - Looked massive - Positive being he holds the ball up with his back to goal very well but on the downside he didn't look much more mobile than Shola tbh
 - Head dropped too early
 - Good to be him see get more game time.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 7 March 2012, 01:19:39 PM
Saw him on the weekend against West Ham.

 - Lazy mofo, I wouldn't expect to see him in the team unless he improves his fitness/work-rate. I always thought his best position might be on the left on the midfield 3 but looks too slow around the pitch for that.
 - Looked massive - Positive being he holds the ball up with his back to goal very well but on the downside he didn't look much more mobile than Shola tbh
 - Head dropped too early
 - Good to be him see get more game time.

He's not blessed with natural pace but don't think he's slow. Possibly the game was passing him by and he struggled to impact, especially if wham were winning the midfield battle, and from what I saw they were.

Tbh though, I can't remember seeing him play, though I only caught he last 30mins.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 7 March 2012, 01:23:12 PM
Ahhh the 'lazy' label being brandished again on this forum.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Elliottman on Wednesday 7 March 2012, 01:29:00 PM
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Looks off the pace to me, always stretching for the ball, maybe he's just adapting to Championship football   
Lets hope so have not been impressed so far sorry to say

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He was one who really did some running against West ham in fairness to him. He always seemed to want to get on the ball and to date that was his best performance in a City shirt. He did not change the course of the game but he gave it a go and was constantly looking for and wanting the ball.

I would like to see him get in some areas around the box and have a go with his left peg.

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i thought when he came on we started to pass the ball more on the floor instead of our long ball all the time tactics so i would definatley give him a run in the team what we got to remember is hes used to having more time on the ball and maybe will take a couple of games to get used to our style of play and the new league. no doubt hes got the quality to be an impact player i think

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feel he should have started against west ham,looked pretty good when he came on.We need to utilise vuckic and liam lawrence and give the likes of don cowie who hasnt stopped grafting all season a rest
englishbluebird

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Looks very good technically to me. its how to intergrate him into the first XI is the issue.

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He has ability and a good dig on him. I think he likes playing off the front two, which obviously we don't play at the moment. we need to find a way to fit him in while getting Whitts further up the park.

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I honestly think he is pants - just about sums up our ambition

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polo you dont half talk some s***! what has vuckic done that makes him look technically good? finished his one goal well against peterborough at home. besides that i struggle to find anything hes done "technically good" hasnt had much time but in my eyes looks like malkys worst signing so far! for such a big guy hes a big baby, doesn't work hard at all. Not for me sorry, give me joe mason ahead of him any day!!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 7 March 2012, 01:40:59 PM
:lol: looks like he's their HBA
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 10 March 2012, 06:56:39 PM
Just come on for Cardiff, 15 mins left

The match is on Sky Sports 2
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Saturday 10 March 2012, 07:02:57 PM
He's not good enough I've said it numerous times

Too one paced!
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Fenham Mag on Saturday 10 March 2012, 07:12:41 PM
Scored the winner :D
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: JH on Saturday 10 March 2012, 07:13:38 PM
He's not good enough I've said it numerous times

Too one paced!

Scored the winner :D

:lol:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Fenham Mag on Saturday 10 March 2012, 07:14:38 PM
Livescore has it as his goal. Skysports saying o.g, havent saw it myself.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: johnnypd on Saturday 10 March 2012, 07:14:59 PM
no he didn't :lol:

got to say he did look one-paced - was just standing still while the match took place around him as if he was injured, but i don't think he was   :undecided:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Fenham Mag on Saturday 10 March 2012, 07:16:14 PM
Livescore  :huff:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 10 March 2012, 07:28:10 PM
no he didn't :lol:

got to say he did look one-paced - was just standing still while the match took place around him as if he was injured, but i don't think he was   :undecided:

He looked  sharp and lively first 10 minutes, winning the ball a couple of times and playing it quickly. Some really good touches when it came to him, one in the corner in particular.

He doesn't seem to be alert all the time though. One moment he'll be standing still during an attack and another he'll charge the ball down when he probably didn't need to.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 12 March 2012, 07:02:22 PM
On the bench tonight.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 12 March 2012, 07:33:27 PM
they said he'd be back for this game but there is still a chance that he goes back there again next week.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 17 March 2012, 05:04:30 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17402329 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17402329)

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Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay has confirmed loan signing Haris Vuckic will not be returning to the club.

The Slovenia midfielder had hoped to be at Cardiff until the end of the season but has been called back to Newcastle United to cover for injury problems.

It is a blow for the Bluebirds who could do with him after suffering a 3-0 home defeat to Hull in midweek.

"Newcastle have picked up injuries in the last week which means he now has to be on their bench," said Mackay.

"We obviously wanted to keep him.

"He is a talented individual who is going on to do very well in his career.

"Sometimes these things happen and Newcastle had three injuries that they didn't legislate for.

"Haris is a terrific young lad to [have] around the place. He is going to be a real talent."

Shame, can't see him getting too many minutes here
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Frazzle on Saturday 17 March 2012, 05:06:14 PM
Who's injured that wasn't when he went on loan?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Elliottman on Saturday 17 March 2012, 05:07:43 PM
Who's injured that wasn't when he went on loan?  :undecided:

raylor.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: Frazzle on Saturday 17 March 2012, 05:09:27 PM
And Lovenkrands, just remembered.

Doesn't change much surely though?  Vuckic would only play central midfield or just behind a striker, maybe on the wing if we're really pushing it.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić set to stay at Cardiff for remainder of season
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 17 March 2012, 05:09:38 PM
Lovenkrands and maybe Tiote I guess
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: Dr Colossus on Tuesday 27 March 2012, 02:35:20 AM
Anyone see on Sunday when the camera cut to Pardew and Vuckic was sat on the bench staring silently forwards like a cold Slovenian hitman?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: ChrisMcQuillan on Tuesday 27 March 2012, 02:56:59 AM
And Lovenkrands, just remembered.

Doesn't change much surely though?  Vuckic would only play central midfield or just behind a striker, maybe on the wing if we're really pushing it.


I think the club realise we've lost Lovenkrands and Best, and wanted Ranger gone on loan again.  That would leave Ba, Ameobi, Cisse.  An injury to one, and we're dangerously low on options.  Vuckic is a good option to have.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: simmsy10 on Tuesday 27 March 2012, 07:23:45 AM
Can he play Centre back?  O0
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: Tiresias on Tuesday 27 March 2012, 07:30:14 AM
Best guess is Pardew thinks squads a bit thin for the run in, players are tired from the length of the season so injuries are going to happen and rather desperate to get 5th. We do have a reasonable shout to get 4th if Spurs form continues to be so poor and Chelsea similar. It's a long shot but the players should be playing for that.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 27 March 2012, 10:33:18 AM
Anyone see on Sunday when the camera cut to Pardew and Vuckic was sat on the bench staring silently forwards like a cold Slovenian hitman?

They should feel lucky he wasn't unleashed on them.. got big hopes for this guy, hopefully if we make Europe next season he can show everyone what he's all about.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 27 March 2012, 12:45:58 PM
Fancy him to hit a left footed belter on as a sub in-the-run to seal us 3 pts.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: Skirge on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:29:28 PM
Out for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: Fenham Mag on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Injury prone.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić to stay at NUFC for remainder of season
Post by: gbandit on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:30:35 PM
Out for the rest of the season

Brittle glass-boy, so many injuries for a youngster
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić Ruled Out For Rest Of Season
Post by: Weezertron on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:31:06 PM
should have stayed on loan.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić Ruled Out For Rest Of Season
Post by: TRC on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:34:48 PM
How did this happen?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić Ruled Out For Rest Of Season
Post by: Skirge on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:36:11 PM
How did this happen?

Knee injury in training
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Gutted.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: BlacknWhiteArmy on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:37:12 PM
Another injury :anguish:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: EthiGeordie on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:40:28 PM
The way I see it Pards is not fun of giving this young player 5 or 10 min so I don't see the use of it. Yesterday was a prime example HBA should have been replaced by Abeid.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: RR15 on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:42:56 PM
Crunching tackle  :tiote:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:43:40 PM
Made of glass it seems.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: TRC on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:46:09 PM
Is he 19? Next season make or break?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 02:48:30 PM
Had really high hopes of him, but now it seems he could be another potential star lost for us.  Next season will probably decide whether he's here long term or not.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 03:27:52 PM
Gutted for him tbh. Was hoping for him to play some sort of role in our run-in.

I hope he gets more game time next season, he is talented and I can see him fitting in well in a midfield three (as the most advanced player). In any case, I really hope he makes the grade with us.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 03:40:40 PM
Crock. Get rid.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Lush Vlad on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 03:44:23 PM
Loves an injury.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 03:49:30 PM
Get rid.

If we're talking about you, yes.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 03:49:43 PM
Spoiler
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Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Haris Vuckic on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 03:55:43 PM

Same ;)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 06:03:19 PM
The way I see it Pards is not fun of giving this young player 5 or 10 min so I don't see the use of it. Yesterday was a prime example HBA should have been replaced by Abeid.
(If I've understood your post correctly) How do you explain Ferguson playing a decent amount of time in the last two games then?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: BooBoo on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 06:07:37 PM
So injury prone.

I wonder whether the lad will ever make it with us. I thought this year would be his break through season but he's barely featured. Season long loan next year hopefully in the Championship.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Tiresias on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 06:19:59 PM
Poor guy.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Skirge on Monday 4 June 2012, 02:25:00 PM
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Title: Re: Haris Vučkić out for the rest of the season with knee injury
Post by: Tiresias on Monday 4 June 2012, 02:30:58 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić Back To NUFC July 2nd For Full Training
Post by: Cajun on Monday 4 June 2012, 02:51:21 PM
I think the 2-1-3 formation we played at times last season would suit him, him playing in the 1 role.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić Back To NUFC July 2nd For Full Training
Post by: Fenham Mag on Monday 4 June 2012, 03:12:53 PM
He'll score a few in Europe this season.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić Back To NUFC July 2nd For Full Training
Post by: themanupstairs on Monday 4 June 2012, 05:19:15 PM
I think the 2-1-3 formation we played at times last season would suit him, him playing in the 1 role.

 
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mike on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:31:32 PM
The answer to our back up forward situation?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:34:17 PM
No.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sifu on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:34:52 PM
Decent game tonight mind. Hopefully more of the same in future games :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:35:20 PM
He looked a bit more mobile and sharp than I've seen him before, still not sure if he has the physical attributes to make it big. Still only 19 though, easy to forget.

Hopefully he'll get more chances in Europe.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: optimistic nit on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:35:57 PM
very impressed with his positional play. the rest needs a bit of work imo.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BooBoo on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:36:49 PM
Started well but faded badly in the second half. Still not overly convinced.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: pete in thanet on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:37:35 PM
Me neither but the fella never stays fit
Title: Haris Vučkić
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Wasn't sure what his role was 2nd half.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:41:11 PM
Wasn't sure what his role was 2nd half.

Seemed to be playing alongside Ba.

Looks a little nervous at times with his touch and finishing but I still think he will end up more of a forward than a midfielder.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:43:31 PM
He started very well and could've had a hatrick in the first half, second half he faded, he looked unhappy with something and constantly looking at the bench, that being said I'm happy that he scored the winning goal, looks like he's got potential to be a hell of a player for us, just needs to stay fit and improve his attitude a bit.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:44:14 PM
Wasn't sure what his role was 2nd half.

Seemed to be playing alongside Ba.

Looks a little nervous at times with his touch and finishing but I still think he will end up more of a forward than a midfielder.

Yep.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Dave on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:45:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/N5aeS.jpg)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: binnsy on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:51:39 PM
Started well but faded although that may well be the lack of training after picking up yet another injury in the Academy game with Spurs on the first day of the season.  Don't think the plan was him to come on and play virtually 90 mins. 
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:52:21 PM
I like Vuckic. Needs a position.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:53:20 PM
I like Vuckic. Needs a position.

God.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Beren on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:53:29 PM
I like Vuckic. Needs a position.

Pardew's fourth striker.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:54:25 PM
I like Vuckic. Needs a position.

God.

Needs more experience before a role like that.

lol but srsly, what's up now?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:55:39 PM
He'll score a few in Europe this season.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:55:44 PM
I like Vuckic. Needs a position.

God.

Needs more experience before a role like that.

lol but srsly, what's up now?

With me? Nowt. Just answering your question bruv.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: optimistic nit on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:56:12 PM
I like Vuckic. Needs a position.

think that's pretty much the truth tbh. doesn't seem to be quick or technical enough yet for a number 10, or have the strikers instinct for a number 9. has some good attributes though.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:56:34 PM
Ah okay. :thup:
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 30 August 2012, 10:57:10 PM
He looked a bit more mobile and sharp than I've seen him before, still not sure if he has the physical attributes to make it big. Still only 19 though, easy to forget.

Hopefully he'll get more chances in Europe.
He's enthusiastic and is a big lad for his age but i'm still not convinced he'll make it as a premier league player.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: PCW1983 on Thursday 30 August 2012, 11:00:12 PM
He looked a bit more mobile and sharp than I've seen him before, still not sure if he has the physical attributes to make it big. Still only 19 though, easy to forget.

Hopefully he'll get more chances in Europe.
He's enthusiastic and is a big lad for his age but i'm still not convinced he'll make it as a premier league player.

Exactly this, really need to progress over the next year if he is to succeed. 
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 30 August 2012, 11:18:16 PM
He has a powerful shot in his left foot. It's good to see one of our players shoot from range and hit the target. It seems a rare commodity in our squad.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Mick on Thursday 30 August 2012, 11:30:14 PM
I thought he played well and was really good at turning his marker and moving forward, he looked to be our best forward tonight.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: morla84 on Thursday 30 August 2012, 11:32:23 PM
Glad he seems to be showing his promise, looked brilliant in the hole but went quiet when he was moved out to the left
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Post by: aussiemag on Thursday 30 August 2012, 11:33:42 PM
Could have a role to play up front this season, hed be our fourth best striker now. Even if hes not natural to that position.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Kanji on Friday 31 August 2012, 12:03:33 AM
He'll slowly find himself there IMO.  I think that is where we should use him this season if im honest. Others play the positions he's suited for better, but few have that left footed strike like him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: alexf on Friday 31 August 2012, 12:20:27 AM
Shame he doesn't have a great turn of speed or he would be a truly exciting prospect. Still he does have a lovely left foot and is tall enough to handle himself against strong defenders. Needs to work on a few other parts of his game but these European games could be the making of him.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 31 August 2012, 12:37:52 AM
For some reason i remembered this..Rooney, Tim Cahil, Lescott, Olly Murs and him playing Fifa against each other, Class..but also a bit random :lol:

FIFA 12 Pro Player Challenge | The House of Wayne Rooney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJio0dJo_gM#ws)
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Skirge on Friday 31 August 2012, 12:41:30 AM
Should have had a 1st half hatrick, was great tonight though, involved a lot found space well used the ball well but fk me he is slow for a young lad. Don't get how with his long legs and young age he is so sluggish.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sean on Friday 31 August 2012, 02:50:29 AM
What's this craic about not having the physical attributes, his problem is being able to take a game by the scruff of the neck and imposing himself on the game...
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sean on Friday 31 August 2012, 02:52:00 AM
Still not sure he will ever make i though, have never seen enough when he has featured
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: littlelunchbox on Friday 31 August 2012, 02:56:10 AM
this cumbersome kid is made of glass, talented but fragile.

Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Sean on Friday 31 August 2012, 03:46:34 AM
this cumbersome kid is made of glass, talented but fragile.
How do you reconcile cumbersome and fragile in the same sentence?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Tyson on Friday 31 August 2012, 07:37:18 AM
Bigger version of Viana.

Technically, lovely footballer with a prodigious left-peg. In central midfield - i don't think he has the physical durability (to handle the hustle & bustle & collisions you cop in the middle), and the engine required to shoulder a balanced workload (in attack & defense). The high-paced tempo & end-to-end nature of the top-flight has caught-out quality ball-players before, when asked to shoulder a balanced workload. Veron is probably the best example. And Viana (a free-roaming playmaker, with no defensive responsiblities, in a 5-man m'field set-up in Portugal) wasn't cut-out for it when SBR incorrectly earmarked as successor in Speed's deep-playmaking position. For us most recently, Guthrie's lack of legs caught him out when deployed in a 2-man central midfield. For Vuckic, it's a similar theme imo.

Blooding him in the deep, left-side slot (of the fluid front 3) looks the best bet, in a full-strenghth line-up. Although it would be a brave decison at the selection table admittedly. The lad has an eye for a pass, and obviously the technical ability to back that up. Cisse, Ba, and HBA (depending on who is used on the day) will actually anticipate an attempted killer ball, and playing alongside those guys will show off his two best attributes while fast-tracking his development. And from a player devolopment angle, he's missed alot of footy & is playing catch-up. Make-or-break season for him now, and plodding alongside thick-as-s**** attackers (like Obertan), in a second-tier line-up doesn't help. 
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Lotus on Friday 31 August 2012, 07:47:13 AM
I think his player role model should be someone like Cantona. We'll be extremely lucky if he gets to be half as good though !
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: oldtype on Friday 31 August 2012, 08:01:31 AM
Yesterday was the first time I ever saw him and thought "hmm, he might actually turn out decent."

Hopefully this is a breakout year for him
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: STM on Friday 31 August 2012, 08:16:04 AM
Finally got a glimpse of why he is so highly rated. I agree that he needs work on elements of his game but don't agree that he can't cut it physically.

He may not have the pace but he certainly has the power.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Cronky on Friday 31 August 2012, 08:18:08 AM
Bigger version of Viana.

Technically, lovely footballer with a prodigious left-peg. In central midfield - i don't think he has the physical durability (to handle the hustle & bustle & collisions you cop in the middle), and the engine required to shoulder a balanced workload (in attack & defense). The high-paced tempo & end-to-end nature of the top-flight has caught-out quality ball-players before, when asked to shoulder a balanced workload. Veron is probably the best example. And Viana (a free-roaming playmaker, with no defensive responsiblities, in a 5-man m'field set-up in Portugal) wasn't cut-out for it when SBR incorrectly earmarked as successor in Speed's deep-playmaking position. For us most recently, Guthrie's lack of legs caught him out when deployed in a 2-man central midfield. For Vuckic, it's a similar theme imo.

Blooding him in the deep, left-side slot (of the fluid front 3) looks the best bet, in a full-strenghth line-up. Although it would be a brave decison at the selection table admittedly. The lad has an eye for a pass, and obviously the technical ability to back that up. Cisse, Ba, and HBA (depending on who is used on the day) will actually anticipate an attempted killer ball, and playing alongside those guys will show off his two best attributes while fast-tracking his development. And from a player devolopment angle, he's missed alot of footy & is playing catch-up. Make-or-break season for him now, and plodding alongside thick-as-s**** attackers (like Obertan), in a second-tier line-up doesn't help. 

Sadly, I pretty much agree with that. I fear his lack of pace will always restrict him.

His decision-making on the ball also seems a bit naive. He's trying very hard to prove himself, so perhaps as a result he's attempting things that aren't really on. He doesn't look relaxed.

I think, like Viana, he'll be more suited to the continental game.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: sicko2ndbest on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:17:32 PM
I don't think he can fit into a system. Lack of pace means he can't play up top and lack of energy means midfields a no-no.

I don't think he's good enough lads, weak link tonight....
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BooBoo on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:19:09 PM
He's such a nothing player. Neither a forward or a midfielder.

Not holding my breath on this lad.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:20:05 PM
I don't think he can fit into a system. Lack of pace means he can't play up top and lack of energy means midfields a no-no.

I don't think he's good enough lads, weak link tonight....
I did always have you down as a homosexual bigamist, like.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Smal on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:21:30 PM
Think he needs someone quick who moves up front with him rather than Shola. Someone who plays off the shoulder who he can slide passes through to would be ideal
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:33:24 PM
Had a fair few chances now. Never writing him off just yet, but needs to play somewhere where he understands what he can provide on a pitch.

Just vanishes every time he plays for us
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:36:15 PM
Do any of you actually know his age? f***ing hell man, give him a chance.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: BooBoo on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:37:22 PM
Do any of you actually know his age? f***ing hell man, give him a chance.

He's had quite a few tbh. How many does he get?
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: littlelunchbox on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:37:37 PM
don't know whats good about him,

he's tall and has a great shot on him thats it.

he can't challenge in the air regardless of his height, he doesn't impose himself physically on the field, scared of getting stuck in and his passing has been woeful.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: palnese on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:45:00 PM
Needs to man the f*** up if he wants to make in England.
Title: Re: Haris Vučkić
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 08:45:06 PM
Looks like Van Persie when you squint, plays nothing like him though.. :lol:
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