Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:24:05 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/03/drugs-prohibition-latin-america
'I guess it had to happen this way. The greatest social menace of the new century is not terrorism but drugs, and it is the poor who will have to lead the revolution. The global trade in illicit narcotics ranks with that in oil and arms. Its prohibition wrecks the lives of wealthy and wretched, east and west alike. It fills jails, corrupts politicians and plagues nations. It finances wars from Afghanistan to Colombia. It is utterly mad.
There is no sign of reform emanating from the self-satisfied liberal democracies of west Europe or north America. Reform is not mentioned by Barack Obama, Gordon Brown, Nicolas Sarkozy or Angela Merkel. Their countries can sustain prohibition, just, by extravagant penal repression and by sweeping the consequences underground. Politicians will smirk and say, as they did in their youth, that they can "handle" drugs.
No such luxury is available to the political economies of Latin America. They have been wrecked by Washington's demand that they stop exporting drugs to fuel America's unregulated cocaine market. It is like trying to stop traffic jams by imposing an oil ban in the Gulf.
Push has finally come to shove. Last week the Argentine supreme court declared in a landmark ruling that it was "unconstitutional" to prosecute citizens for having drugs for their personal use. It asserted in ringing terms that "adults should be free to make lifestyle decisions without the intervention of the state". This classic statement of civil liberty comes not from some liberal British home secretary or Tory ideologue. They would not dare. The doctrine is adumbrated by a regime only 25 years from dictatorship.
Nor is that all. The Mexican government has been brought to its knees by a drug-trafficking industry employing some 500,000 workers and policed by 5,600 killings a year, all to supply America's gargantuan appetite and Mexico's lesser one. Three years ago, Mexico concluded that prison for drug possession merely criminalised a large slice of its population. Drug users should be regarded as "patients, not criminals".
Next to the plate step Brazil and Ecuador. Both are quietly proposing to follow suit, fearful only of offending America's drug enforcement bureaucracy, now a dominant presence in every South American capital. Ecuador has pardoned 1,500 "mules" – women used by the gangs to transport cocaine over international borders. Britain, still in the dark ages, locks these pathetic women up in Holloway for years on end.
Brazil's former president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, co-authored the recent Latin American Commission on Drugs and Democracy. He declares the emperor naked. "The tide is turning," he says. "The war-on-drugs strategy has failed." A Brazilian judge, Maria Lucia Karam, of the lobby group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, tells the Guardian: "The only way to reduce violence in Mexico, Brazil or anywhere else is to legalise the production, supply and consumption of all drugs."
America spends a reported $70bn a year on suppressing drug imports, and untold billions on prosecuting its own citizens for drugs offences. Yet the huge profits available to Latin American traffickers have financed a quarter-century of civil war in Colombia and devastating social disruption in Mexico, Peru and Bolivia. Similar profits are aiding the war in Afghanistan and killing British soldiers.
The underlying concept of the war on drugs, initiated by Richard Nixon in the 1970s, is that demand can be curbed by eliminating supply. It has been enunciated by every US president and every British prime minister. Tony Blair thought that by occupying Afghanistan he could rid the streets of Britain of heroin. He told Clare Short to do it. Gordon Brown believes it to this day.
This concept marries intellectual idiocy – that supply leads demand – with practical impossibility. But it is golden politics. For 30 years it has allowed western politicians to shift blame for not regulating drug abuse at home on to the shoulders of poor countries abroad. It is gloriously, crashingly immoral.
The Latin American breakthrough is directed at domestic drug users, but this is only half the battle. There is no rational justification for making consumption legal but not the supply of what is consumed. We do not cure nicotine addiction by banning the Zimbabwean tobacco crop.
The absurdity of this position was illustrated by this week's "good news" that the 2009 Afghan poppy harvest had fallen back to its 2005 level. This was taken as a sign both that poppy eradication was "working" and that depriving Afghan peasants of their most lucrative cash crop somehow wins their hearts and minds and impoverishes the Taliban.
The Afghan poppy crop is largely a function of the price of poppies compared with that of wheat. The only time policy has disrupted this potent market was in 2001, when the old Taliban responded to American pressure by ruthlessly suppressing supply. Since the Nato occupation it has boomed, inevitably polluting Kabul politics and plunging western diplomats and commentators into hypocrisy over Hamid Karzai's corrupt regime. What did they think would happen?
The crop has shrunk because the wheat price has risen and the recession has dampened European demand. It will rise again. The policy of Nato and the UN's economically illiterate drug tsar, Antonio Maria Costa, of treating Afghan opium as the cause of heroin addiction, not a response to it, means trying to break supply routes and stamp out criminal gangs. It has failed, merely increasing heroin's risk premium. As long as there is demand, there will be supply. Water does not flow uphill, however much global bureaucrats pay each other to pretend otherwise.
The trade in drugs is a direct result of their unregulated availability on the streets of Europe and America. Making supply illegal is worse than pointless. It oils a black market, drives trade underground, cross-subsidises other crime and leaves consumers at the mercy of poisons. It is the politics of stupid. The incarceration (pdf) of thousands of poor people (11,000 in England and Wales alone) also deprives economies of a large labour pool.
As the Brazilian judge pointed out, the tide of violence associated with any illegal trade will not abate by only licensing consumption. The mountain that must be climbed is licensing, regulating and taxing supply, thus ending a prohibition now outstripping in absurdity and damage America's alcohol prohibition between the wars.
From the the deaths of British troops in Helmand to the narco-terrorism of Mexico and the mules cramming London's jails, the war on drugs can be seen only as a total failure, a vast self-imposed cost on western society. It is the greatest sweeping-under-the-carpet of our age.
The desperate politicians of Latin America have at last found the courage to grasp the nettle. Will Britain? According to the UN, it has the highest number of problem drug users in Europe. I imagine Gordon Brown and David Cameron agree with the Argentine supreme court, but they are too frightened to say so, let alone promise reform. In all they do they are guided by fear.
I sometimes realise that, if Britain still had the death penalty, no current political leader would have the guts to abolish it.'
I agree with this article.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:29:19 PM
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:43:45 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:48:02 PM
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
Post by: The Libertine on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:03:12 PM
Yep. Legalise and educate.
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
:thup:
the "illegal = bad and legal = safe" argument falls down when you point out alcohol and cigarettes are legal/encouraged but kill millions worldwide every year.
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:06:14 PM
Post by: Allmo on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:41:39 PM
I generally agree that legalisation is the way forward to solve many problems that drugs cause, but it is dependant on what drugs are legalised. I would never ever agree with meth, smack and crack becoming legal, but they are the drugs that cause most problems. The people who generally believe legal is good, illegal is bad are in my eyes just thick, and in my eyes a sizeable chunk may be thick enough to think that if Heroin is legal, then it would be fine to try it, which I just can't argue is a good option at all.
Post by: Parky on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:49:09 PM
Yep. Legalise and educate.
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:02:56 PM
Yep. Legalise and educate.
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'
Post by: LucaAltieri on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:09:46 PM
Yep. Legalise and educate.
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'
First we need to tackle binge drinking then maybe... maybe... think about legalising/decriminalising other things.
Post by: Mike on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:21:07 PM
Post by: Adam^ on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:31:42 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:05:52 PM
Yep. Legalise and educate.
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'
That's a fair point, but as bad as many people are on drink, there's still plenty of people, I would say the majority in the grand scheme of things, that know how to enjoy it in a proper, respectful manner.
What I meant was, the approach is simple. Educate children with truths about drugs, and drink, incidentally, from a younger age. Don't try to only scare them, but do tell them all sides of the debate. Not just "You take 'DRUGS' and you turn into this *insert random dead junkie here*".
Drugs education in this country is utterly disgraceful, as it stands. I remember the one session we got at school. It consisted of a copper coming in, giving us a leaflet that showed us what LSD, E, cocaine, heroin and weed looked like then told us "most people turn out to be criminals" once they start them. Oh, can't forget the old "gateway drug" comment with regards to weed, as well. It's all bollocks.
Post by: Parky on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:21:24 PM
Yep. Legalise and educate.
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'
That's a fair point, but as bad as many people are on drink, there's still plenty of people, I would say the majority in the grand scheme of things, that know how to enjoy it in a proper, respectful manner.
What I meant was, the approach is simple. Educate children with truths about drugs, and drink, incidentally, from a younger age. Don't try to only scare them, but do tell them all sides of the debate. Not just "You take 'DRUGS' and you turn into this *insert random dead junkie here*".
Drugs education in this country is utterly disgraceful, as it stands. I remember the one session we got at school. It consisted of a copper coming in, giving us a leaflet that showed us what LSD, E, cocaine, heroin and weed looked like then told us "most people turn out to be criminals" once they start them. Oh, can't forget the old "gateway drug" comment with regards to weed, as well. It's all bollocks.
Getaway drug more like. :razz:
Post by: 80 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:25:26 PM
I want to hear how anyone could argue against what appears to be clearly the most logical and best option.
I'd love to play the contrary b****** but for most intents and purposes I can't in this instance.
Post by: Bowie on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:53:29 PM
So it's only risen in 9 out of 20 studied areas, they fail to tell us what those other results are, it was categorized as illegal 3 years ago and the price has plunged since. FFS, just legalise the lot and be done with it. Those who want it will take it regardless, but organised crime will be reduced, petty crimes will be massively reduced and the government can tax it. Win all round!
Exactly, made a written speech on this subject last year for my English coursework. Would cut out so many negative side effects to illegal drugs; HIV being one of them within heroin addicts too. Obviously not proposing selling smack n' crack alongside alchopops in the off licence like, but just making all illegal drugs controlled.
Always agreed 100% on this subject. I hate the way people react when you propose it though when they haven't heard the benefits. Makes you sound like some sort of hippy stoner when it first comes out your mouth when infact it is the most logical solution.
Post by: Stephen927 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 07:02:38 PM
And thats all I've got to say about that.
Post by: Haz on Saturday 5 September 2009, 07:07:07 PM
Post by: toonlass on Friday 26 February 2010, 11:17:02 AM
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 26 February 2010, 11:55:47 AM
Post by: colinmk on Friday 26 February 2010, 12:14:15 PM
Yep. Legalise and educate.
Simple.
Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'
That's a fair point, but as bad as many people are on drink, there's still plenty of people, I would say the majority in the grand scheme of things, that know how to enjoy it in a proper, respectful manner.
What I meant was, the approach is simple. Educate children with truths about drugs, and drink, incidentally, from a younger age. Don't try to only scare them, but do tell them all sides of the debate. Not just "You take 'DRUGS' and you turn into this *insert random dead junkie here*".
Drugs education in this country is utterly disgraceful, as it stands. I remember the one session we got at school. It consisted of a copper coming in, giving us a leaflet that showed us what LSD, E, cocaine, heroin and weed looked like then told us "most people turn out to be criminals" once they start them. Oh, can't forget the old "gateway drug" comment with regards to weed, as well. It's all bollocks.
Totally agree, in 100 years time they will look back and wonder why the f*** this wasn't done a long time ago. Could potentially solve so many problems.
Post by: Keefaz on Friday 26 February 2010, 12:16:55 PM
Post by: Bowie on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:07:28 PM
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Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:08:26 PM
Post by: MW on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:32:14 PM
Post by: toonlass on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:40:07 PM
What does glue do? any comparisons?
I heard it sticks model aeroplanes together really well like. :colo:
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 27 February 2010, 09:54:36 AM
Love a bit of cake, me, on the weekends.
:lol: It's a f***ing disgrace.
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Thursday 2 September 2010, 08:23:07 PM
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 04:11:17 PM
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A few months ago, I discussed the tourist drug ban in the Netherlands, with a focus on my town, Maastricht. NPR just ran a story on the intermediate term effects of the new regulations. Some of the “coffee shops” (places where one could buy a pre-rolled or roll-you-own joint for €3) have reopened, as I predicted; others have not. Unsurprisingly, what has happened is that drug dealers, who previously had dealt only in hard drugs, are now also selling marijuana illegally. While total consumption of weed has probably dropped, buyers are worse off, as are coffee-house owners, with the main beneficiaries being drug dealers. As always, something that raises price in a legal market will increase demand in the illegal market.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 04:18:28 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 04:19:13 PM
Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 11:57:55 PM
Post by: Parky on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 11:59:34 PM
I miss Alan Shearer 9 :undecided:
He's on TT.
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 22 August 2012, 12:00:01 AM
Glue's making a comeback man.
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:lol: :thup:
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 22 August 2012, 12:07:06 AM
I miss Alan Shearer 9 :undecided:
He's on TT.
TT :yao:
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 22 August 2012, 11:13:07 AM
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:17:08 PM
The first programme unravels the mysteries of MDMA, revealing how the drug affects the brain.
Professor David Nutt of Imperial College London will reveal the results of the scientific trial and the programme follows some of the volunteers - who include actor Keith Allen, novelist Lionel Shriver, a vicar, a former MP and an ex-soldier - through the trial.
The programme also looks at the potential side-effects and dangers of taking MDMA and includes a discussion with an expert who disagrees with the study and is sceptical about its purpose.
Could be an interesting watch.
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:22:14 PM
Seriously though, i'd rather get stoned then drink tbh.......unfortunately for me i can only drink.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:22:46 PM
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:23:51 PM
I miss getting stoned. I haven't been stoned for years now but i still get urges to have a smoke, the day i retire I'm going to walk out of work have a almighty propa stitcha bucket and a joint them more then likely collapse and die :lol:
Seriously though, i'd rather get stoned then drink tbh.......unfortunately for me i can only drink.
Agreed. My friends can't seem to come to terms with that.
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:25:56 PM
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/drugs-live-the-ecstasy-trial/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1 (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/drugs-live-the-ecstasy-trial/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1)
The first programme unravels the mysteries of MDMA, revealing how the drug affects the brain.
Professor David Nutt of Imperial College London will reveal the results of the scientific trial and the programme follows some of the volunteers - who include actor Keith Allen, novelist Lionel Shriver, a vicar, a former MP and an ex-soldier - through the trial.
The programme also looks at the potential side-effects and dangers of taking MDMA and includes a discussion with an expert who disagrees with the study and is sceptical about its purpose.
Could be an interesting watch.
On weeeeeed
(http://i.imgur.com/0Ztvu.jpg)
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:26:20 PM
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:27:22 PM
I miss getting stoned. I haven't been stoned for years now but i still get urges to have a smoke, the day i retire I'm going to walk out of work have a almighty propa stitcha bucket and a joint them more then likely collapse and die :lol:
Seriously though, i'd rather get stoned then drink tbh.......unfortunately for me i can only drink.
Agreed. My friends can't seem to come to terms with that.
My lass doesn't either, but she's never smoked so i don't think she could. Loads of my mates smoke, a couple are propa stoners like i used to be.......laughing so much and so hard that it feels like your bodys gonna snap in half.......f***ing hell man i miss that!
I cant take drugs because of work but i swear to god i'd be better at my job if i was stoned.
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:35:24 PM
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:36:22 PM
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:37:36 PM
Post by: Oakie Doke on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 05:22:30 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:16:59 PM
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:18:55 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:22:11 PM
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:22:14 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:22:41 PM
Couldn't think of anywhere I'd like to be any less than in a lab lying down in silence while I was cowied off my tits.
I'd be trying to hoy out a load of shapes to the sound of the MRI scanner like. Proper techno vibe when you're in there.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:24:40 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:25:49 PM
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:28:09 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:29:38 PM
Watching Drugs Live with the missus. We are experts from different ends. She is doing her PhD in psychology. I POUNDED the 90's.
f***ing love Jason Cook. :lol:
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:31:17 PM
Not feeling much off this Channel 4 MDMA show. Anyone else? Might do another on Channel 4+1. You having a good night? I'm Neil by the way.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:32:16 PM
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:33:59 PM
Can't wait for the Leah Betts story to appear.
Some knacker in year above us at Prudhoe snuffed it after a cowie sesh at Godskitchen.
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:34:12 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:27 PM
What time's Come Down With Me on?
:lol:
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:34 PM
Can't wait for the Leah Betts story to appear.
I took ecstacy the night she died. Freaked out a bit the morning after, until I realised I wasn't actually dead, so it must have been alright.
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:37 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:48 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:48:30 PM
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:50:26 PM
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:52:20 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:54:55 PM
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:55:01 PM
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:03:29 PM
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:03:51 PM
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:04:45 PM
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:36 PM
Who are these f***ing pricks?
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:50 PM
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:57 PM
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:06:42 PM
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:08:34 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:09:36 PM
What a respectable guy he is like. Those teeth too. Obviously f*** all to do with years of knashing his jaws together. :lol:
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:10:14 PM
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:10:28 PM
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:11:43 PM
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:13:08 PM
I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.
Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:13:12 PM
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:15:15 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:15:44 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.:serious:
I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.
Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:22:22 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.
I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.
Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Was hoping to see more of this. Disappointed.
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:27:20 PM
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:29:19 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.
I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.
Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:
Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:
When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:33:01 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.
I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.
Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:
Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:
When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.
It would've been even more of a success. :rose: As for your question, try it. I think it'd take a lot longer than that to go off? :thup:
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:35:41 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.
I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.
Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:
Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:
When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.
It would've been even more of a success. :rose: As for your question, try it. :thup:
School night, always feel ridiculously tired after weed. I've got nothing to do this weekend though.........
Thing is as with alcohol I'm a proper light weight, a few draws and I'm away. Will take ages to get through it all.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:37:16 PM
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:39:08 PM
Dino pack it in man. I hate you right now.
Sorry bro :undecided:
N-O get baked party at my house :aww:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:47:22 PM
Dino pack it in man. I hate you right now.
:lol:
Post by: Beren on Thursday 27 September 2012, 12:25:11 AM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.
I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.
Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:
Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:
When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.
It would've been even more of a success. :rose: As for your question, try it. :thup:
School night, always feel ridiculously tired after weed. I've got nothing to do this weekend though.........
Thing is as with alcohol I'm a proper light weight, a few draws and I'm away. Will take ages to get through it all.
What. A. f***ing. Dick.
:lol:
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 27 September 2012, 01:10:58 AM
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 27 September 2012, 01:15:28 AM
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 27 September 2012, 01:38:47 AM
Post by: Dr Venkman on Thursday 27 September 2012, 05:37:13 PM
I'm anti drugs.
What does this mean?
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 27 September 2012, 06:04:17 PM
I'm anti drugs.
What does this mean?
That he's completely boring.
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 27 September 2012, 06:07:34 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 09:11:16 AM
http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html (http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html)
Having had bad trips as a full-on psychonaut, what those kids must have gone through... :nope:
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:37:28 PM
I'm anti drugs.
What does this mean?
That he's completely boring.
Yeah, cos drugs make people more interesting.
Get real. Whether you're interesting or boring has got f*** all to do with drugs, mate.
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:44:08 PM
I tried that Tree Sherbet last weekend.
Intersting stuff but ill not be touching it ever again.
Post by: cp40 on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:55:07 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/notoriousbiggs/gurn.jpg)
I bet hes interesting :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:56:39 PM
I'm anti drugs.
What does this mean?
That he's completely boring.
Yeah, cos drugs make people more interesting.
Get real. Whether you're interesting or boring has got f*** all to do with drugs, mate.
Nice. :lol:
I would think of someone that came out as anti-drink would equally be as boring. Or I could have just been playing around, you moody b******.
On a more serious note, if someone is anti-something, they tend to be biased against it. Spouting such things as bollocks and s***, and those people tend to be boring.
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:02:12 PM
I'm anti drugs.
What does this mean?
That he's completely boring.
Yeah, cos drugs make people more interesting.
Get real. Whether you're interesting or boring has got f*** all to do with drugs, mate.
Nice. :lol:
I think someone that came out as anti-drink would equally be as boring. Or I could have just been playing around, you moody b******.
I'm not moody. You're just a bit paranoid, that's all. That's what drugs do to you over time though. :snod: :lol:
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:11:19 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/notoriousbiggs/gurn.jpg)
I bet hes interesting :lol:
Charlie Adam is interesting, played for Liverpool and now Stoke.
Post by: AfroP on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:15:17 PM
On a different note...from the whose interesting or who is boring lark.
I tried that Tree Sherbet last weekend.
Intersting stuff but ill not be touching it ever again.
what the hell?
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:18:08 PM
On a different note...from the whose interesting or who is boring lark.
I tried that Tree Sherbet last weekend.
Intersting stuff but ill not be touching it ever again.
what the hell?
Tired it when you were on holiday last friday.
Post by: icemanblue on Saturday 6 October 2012, 07:57:13 PM
Post by: AfroP on Saturday 6 October 2012, 07:58:18 PM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:
Thats what i wanted to know
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 09:18:35 PM
Nine people have been hospitalised after taking the substance
Police have warned about the use of a "legal high" substance that has left nine people in hospital in the past three months.
They said Annihilation, described as herbal incense, is being used predominately by young people in and around Glasgow.
The most recent cases came on Wednesday, when three people became ill after taking it at the same time.
Symptoms can include increased heart rate, numbness and unconsciousness.
The longest that anyone affected by the substance has been kept in hospital was overnight, and that was for observations.
Strathclyde Police said Annihilation was one of many psychoactive substances they been made aware of in recent months.
Det Insp Jim Bradley, Glasgow City Centre Police Office, said it was important people understood the risks associated with taking substances such as Annihilation.
Medical attention
He added: "Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's safe. No one can predict the risks involved.
"Those who have taken the drug have experienced adverse health effects, including increased heart rate, unconsciousness, numbness in legs causing collapse, paranoia, aggression and self harming.
"The symptoms appear, in some cases, to last for several hours.
"Users can never be sure what they are taking or what the serious consequences can be. The adverse effects on an individual's health are not known but there is potential for short term or long term harm from these substances."
He also warned users against mixing Annihilation with any other legal highs, or with drugs or alcohol, as the consequences could be even more severe.
Anyone suffering from adverse effects after taking any legal high substance should seek immediate medical attention, the officer said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-19856505 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-19856505)
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 09:55:30 PM
:facepalm:
More proof, if ever needed in the first place, that we need a properly regulated drug market, but hey, let's keep the status quo.
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:02:28 PM
An interesting read, no matter your persuasion.
http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html (http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html)
Having had bad trips as a full-on psychonaut, what those kids must have gone through... :nope:
TBH, I think a kid that unwittingly took LSD would be better able to handle it (at least long-term) than an adult. More likely to forget, and less likely to think themselves into a bad trip.
I can't think of anything much worse than being "dosed" with LSD and not knowing what's going on. Practically a bad trip guaranteed right there. At least with a kid you could maybe bring them off the bad trip by asking them if they'd ever noticed how interesting their shoes are and putting positive ideas in their head. That's not going to work with an adult who's more worried about what the f*** is happening to him/her.
I had a really bad attack of the paras a year or two ago when a mate brought back some ridiculous weed from Amsterdam. I hadn't smoked in a long, long time and it properly knocked me for six. The only reason I managed to not absolutely lose it was because I knew from experience that I'd be right again in a few hours.
I can't imagine what that, let alone LSD, would do to someone with no experience, especially if there was nobody around who could talk them down and keep them a bit straight.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:16:44 PM
I've been there myself more than a few times (not as the victim, but the person trying to help someone having a—typically self-inflicted—bad experience), and I find distraction is the way to go. Worst thing you can let a person having a bad experience on drugs do is run with their own thoughts.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:19:37 PM
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:05:52 PM
Isn't it a wonder how people who can't handle drugs keep on taking them?
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:07:22 PM
:)
Isn't it a wonder how people who can't handle drugs keep on taking them?
Same goes for the drink, tbh. And junk food. And ciggies...
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:08:02 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:19:14 PM
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:22:43 PM
Had a proper weird day at work on Friday, kept vaguely remembering a dream I had the night before but it was actually real and I was desperately trying to remember who I was, had this weird almost warm feeling through my body.
This was all while I was sat at my desk, my colleague was even speaking to me at one point so I was trying to look like I was listening but having this freak out.
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:23:37 PM
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:23:47 PM
:)
Isn't it a wonder how people who can't handle drugs keep on taking them?
Same goes for the drink, tbh. And junk food. And ciggies...
Drink (and ciggies and junk food) are different to drugs in one important respect: you aren't suddenly off your tits/obese/cancer-ridden after one drink/burger/fag, whereas with drugs your typical dosage takes you straight to la-la-land.
Drugs are very much a black/white proposition; booze, burgers and fags aren't.
That is to say, it's a lot easier to say no to having a "dose" of drugs because you don't feel like being as high as a kite. Deciding whether to have one beer, burger or ciggie isn't really a straight-up question of whether you want to be hammered/obese/cancer-ridden or not.
Post by: Clay on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:24:17 PM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:
Thats what i wanted to know
Still needs answered.
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:33:17 PM
Aye, but we know you're a mental case. :p
We do but these episodes somehow still surprise/scare me :lol:
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:36:10 PM
Aye, but we know you're a mental case. :p
We do but these episodes somehow still surprise/scare me :lol:
:saylor:
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:36:34 PM
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:40:38 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:44:18 PM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:
Thats what i wanted to know
Still needs answered.
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:45:05 PM
Post by: Disco on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:04:47 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:12:14 AM
Nothing particular on there just now, but good reports and stories pop up on it.
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:24:41 AM
I assume it's that plant food stuff that was doing the rounds last year, I forget the name.
Meow meow or whatever is was?
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:26:28 AM
I assume it's that plant food stuff that was doing the rounds last year, I forget the name.
Meow meow or whatever is was?
Whiskas, actually mate.
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:29:08 AM
I assume it's that plant food stuff that was doing the rounds last year, I forget the name.
Meow meow or whatever is was?
Whiskas, actually mate.
Purrrrr..
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:25:10 PM
I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker. My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid. Just so you know.
(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself). Howay the lads.
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:27:17 PM
Post by: madras on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:28:29 PM
Just had a little flashback there while replying to a post on RTG about when you last took drugs. Been years, enjoy the memories but wouldn't be bothered these days. :aww:you're on RTG ?
Post by: Disco on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:30:12 PM
I thought we could double up the meaning of this thread. I understand it's used currently to discuss drug legislation and the like? Well I think people should pop in here and post whenever they're off their tits. Stick this thread on ignore, MKSC.
I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker. My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid. Just so you know.
(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself). Howay the lads.
well jel.
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:37:25 PM
I thought we could double up the meaning of this thread. I understand it's used currently to discuss drug legislation and the like? Well I think people should pop in here and post whenever they're off their tits. Stick this thread on ignore, MKSC.
I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker. My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid. Just so you know.
(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself). Howay the lads.
well jel.
:lol: As is ajewels (2 posts above you). Those were his exact words, as he's now reiterated to me on Facebook. He texted me "well jel".
ajewels is basically my best friend in real life, we need to get him posting on here more! Up your game all. :lol:
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Friday 12 October 2012, 11:12:34 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Saturday 13 October 2012, 02:14:02 AM
I thought we could double up the meaning of this thread. I understand it's used currently to discuss drug legislation and the like? Well I think people should pop in here and post whenever they're off their tits. Stick this thread on ignore, MKSC.
I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker. My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid. Just so you know.
(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself). Howay the lads.
well jel.
:lol:
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 13 October 2012, 10:17:47 AM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:
Thats what i wanted to know
Still needs answered.
Its that plant food stuff, or meow meow stuff. :lol:
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Saturday 13 October 2012, 10:37:20 AM
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 13 October 2012, 10:39:49 AM
FAO drug use experts: How long does it take cannabis/weed to leave your system in terms of a urination drug test. Twenty days or so should be enough, yeah?
2 weeks should do it unless you're talking about a regular user:
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana_test.htm (http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana_test.htm)
Post by: Jill on Saturday 13 October 2012, 11:35:34 AM
Just had a little flashback there while replying to a post on RTG about when you last took drugs. Been years, enjoy the memories but wouldn't be bothered these days. :aww:you're on RTG ?
Aye, since 2002. :o
Post by: Stephen927 on Saturday 13 October 2012, 12:48:11 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Didn't realise it has to start with the UN. Not as optimistic as I once was.. :undecided:
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:42:31 AM
It really is about time that governments started taking a realistic approach to drugs (and prostitution). Prohibition has never worked in thousands of years, and it isn't going to start working now.
Drugs/prostitution needs to be brought out into the open where it'll be out of the hands of criminals.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:43:59 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:46:47 AM
There's just far too many arguments against prohibition to keep it going. There's really not a single argument for it, now.
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 10:29:59 AM
(http://download.thelancet.com/images/journalimages/0140-6736/PIIS0140673610614626.gr4.lrg.jpg)
I'm wondering how big a slice of the grey (crime) segment legalisation would remove, i.e. how much is due to the supply chain currently being controlled by criminals and how much is due to addicts robbing to be able to afford their next fix.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 10:34:23 AM
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:10:12 PM
apparently there is something pretty mental (in a mental way, not good) someones mate had in croatia, which is produced by the human body when born or dying. cant remember what its called
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:14:11 PM
Pretty solid to get a hold of, but you can make it. Also goes by the name of Ayahuasca. Watch The Spirit Molecule for an insight.
Haven't touched heroin either, wacko, but I know not to due to my stupidly addictive nature. Have ingested opium before though and never got hooked, more myths debunked.
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:17:45 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:19:44 PM
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:21:44 PM
Post by: Disco on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:25:08 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:44:29 PM
It may be one of those that you never fully get back to normal though.
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:46:51 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:55:09 PM
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 05:28:35 PM
Not the case, Otter. No-one has had any adverse side-effects from using DMT.
Just going off the videos I saw (there's a few on YouTube). None of them seemed the full shilling.
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 14 October 2012, 05:31:16 PM
Not the case, Otter. No-one has had any adverse side-effects from using DMT.
Big claim Bluf. Got any evidence?
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 05:58:12 PM
Not the case, Otter. No-one has had any adverse side-effects from using DMT.
Big claim Bluf. Got any evidence?
Having researched it, done it, and know plenty of people that do it on a regular basis. There's 'retreats' all around the world that promote it, I doubt they'd do so if there were chances people could go nuts. There's the real chance you'll not enjoy it, granted, but there's no chance of you going insane from it.
Like I said to MW, watch The Spirit Molecule. It's about a set of scientific studies done on the drug, not a video by over-enthusiastic druggers.
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:03:24 PM
DMT sounds utterly mad. I've read a few experience tales on the net and it sounds as if it just beams you into a different world.
It may be one of those that you never fully get back to normal though.
Where do I sign up for some of that?
Who needs as balloon to space when you've got 'shrooms?
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:06:52 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Four hours in I did experience quite intense visuals, but none of the outer-body-experience results that it is most famous for. See, when you go to these retreats, they give you a diet to follow for 14 days, it's essentially a vegan diet but not strictly. Need to eat unprocessed foods, nuts of all kinds and s*** like that. Me being my typical self, I didn't want to commit to that and just insisted on having it at mine (offering it no respect as I allude to above). As a result, I conned myself out of anything profound, but when I fell asleep I had the most intense, vivid dreams, talking to things that can only be best described as entities.
I didn't get any of the elf stuff that lots do, but I did get the sensation of travelling through space at the speed of light (I assume that's what it was, it was fast either way!), and looking back on our solar system. Because I fell asleep, it's been difficult to remember, but I remember seeing visions from my childhood that I'd all but forgotten 'in real life'. The best thing, or most interesting thing, was feeling like I'd been away for several days with so much in my head to talk about with my mate at the time, and being told I'd only been asleep for 30 minutes.
I wasted a good opportunity that I'd waited nearly bloody ten years to have. I'm due to do it again in early spring when the summer kicks back in, or possibly when I move into my new house and away from the chaotic and unpredictable area I'm in now if I can convince my mate to stop being a fanny. Lots of banging and shouting would make you terrified under such influences, always have phones, buzzers turned off and TV's pulled out the wall so you don't sit on the control, turn it on, and freak yourself the f*** out.
I've done quite a lot psychedelics in my time, but this one is the only one that's kept within our own 'reality', using space as a backdrop, as if to say those you're talking to are real and watching you. Others are just mind-f***s that can take you anywhere and lack any coherency and logic. Even the most anti of drug users would have their perceptions changed after trying it. I'd thoroughly recommend heading to a retreat if you ever hear about them. Sadly, it's illegal here, but they do exist. My ex's little brother frequently goes to one in Kilmarnock, but it costs him 100 quid a night, over the weekend, and with my best mate being able to 'make' it (you can buy the ingredients fairly legally), I quite resent the possibility of going down to Scotland's concrete jungle and trying to have an experience there. There's a retreat in Peru, Tierra Vida Healing, that I'm pretty determined to get to and when I raise the cash I intend to go. Main problem is the price of flights.
Sorry I can't offer anything spectacular, but when I take it again, hopefully properly, I intend to write things up on Erowid, so would pop it here too. Never fear it, but if you do have a slight fear of it, never do it recreationally, do it around people that are experienced on it and can keep you calm should you start to feel like you're losing control. The idea is to let it control you, and the fight to remain in control is often what causes problems. People try to control the outcome by thinking that thinking about not having a bad time is going to work, it won't. As Leary said, you don't go on a boat trip thinking about sinking.
Post by: Si on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:51:39 PM
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:57:33 PM
My ex's little brother frequently goes to one in Kilmarnock, but it costs him 100 quid a night, over the weekend, and with my best mate being able to 'make' it (you can buy the ingredients fairly legally), I quite resent the possibility of going down to Scotland's concrete jungle and trying to have an experience there. There's a retreat in Peru, Tierra Vida Healing, that I'm pretty determined to get to and when I raise the cash I intend to go. Main problem is the price of flights.
i didnt have enough time, didnt realise it was this s*** but met people that had done it
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 07:49:40 PM
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 07:50:16 PM
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Well I drank a tea so it's a slower onslaught than doing DMT, which is the synthesised version of ayahuasca and you'd fire that in a pipe or bong and smoke it. I wasn't at a retreat either, and did it in the house over my birthday last month. These things need to be taken into account because without proper relaxation you're in danger of suppressing any potential drift off. So many people do it and become underwhelmed because they've basically sat at a rowdy party and done some. It's a pure waste, deserves far more respect..
Four hours in I did experience quite intense visuals, but none of the outer-body-experience results that it is most famous for. See, when you go to these retreats, they give you a diet to follow for 14 days, it's essentially a vegan diet but not strictly. Need to eat unprocessed foods, nuts of all kinds and s*** like that. Me being my typical self, I didn't want to commit to that and just insisted on having it at mine (offering it no respect as I allude to above). As a result, I conned myself out of anything profound, but when I fell asleep I had the most intense, vivid dreams, talking to things that can only be best described as entities.
I didn't get any of the elf stuff that lots do, but I did get the sensation of travelling through space at the speed of light (I assume that's what it was, it was fast either way!), and looking back on our solar system. Because I fell asleep, it's been difficult to remember, but I remember seeing visions from my childhood that I'd all but forgotten 'in real life'. The best thing, or most interesting thing, was feeling like I'd been away for several days with so much in my head to talk about with my mate at the time, and being told I'd only been asleep for 30 minutes.
I wasted a good opportunity that I'd waited nearly bloody ten years to have. I'm due to do it again in early spring when the summer kicks back in, or possibly when I move into my new house and away from the chaotic and unpredictable area I'm in now if I can convince my mate to stop being a fanny. Lots of banging and shouting would make you terrified under such influences, always have phones, buzzers turned off and TV's pulled out the wall so you don't sit on the control, turn it on, and freak yourself the f*** out.
I've done quite a lot psychedelics in my time, but this one is the only one that's kept within our own 'reality', using space as a backdrop, as if to say those you're talking to are real and watching you. Others are just mind-f***s that can take you anywhere and lack any coherency and logic. Even the most anti of drug users would have their perceptions changed after trying it. I'd thoroughly recommend heading to a retreat if you ever hear about them. Sadly, it's illegal here, but they do exist. My ex's little brother frequently goes to one in Kilmarnock, but it costs him 100 quid a night, over the weekend, and with my best mate being able to 'make' it (you can buy the ingredients fairly legally), I quite resent the possibility of going down to Scotland's concrete jungle and trying to have an experience there. There's a retreat in Peru, Tierra Vida Healing, that I'm pretty determined to get to and when I raise the cash I intend to go. Main problem is the price of flights.
Sorry I can't offer anything spectacular, but when I take it again, hopefully properly, I intend to write things up on Erowid, so would pop it here too. Never fear it, but if you do have a slight fear of it, never do it recreationally, do it around people that are experienced on it and can keep you calm should you start to feel like you're losing control. The idea is to let it control you, and the fight to remain in control is often what causes problems. People try to control the outcome by thinking that thinking about not having a bad time is going to work, it won't. As Leary said, you don't go on a boat trip thinking about sinking.
:o
I didn't realise you were so committed to opening the doors of perception.
You've really piqued my interest, man. I'm gonna have to look into this properly. Do you know what the situation in the Netherlands is? Only 40 miles from here, like :)
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 08:49:23 PM
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 08:59:58 PM
So bizarre.
Post by: Neil on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:00:29 PM
One of the videos I watched, talked of the user watching as everything around him disassembled itself (furniture taking itself apart etc) and realising that everything has a shared energy that is completely beyond our normal comprehension.
So bizarre.
Sounds class tbh. :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:37:55 PM
:o
I didn't realise you were so committed to opening the doors of perception.
You've really piqued my interest, man. I'm gonna have to look into this properly. Do you know what the situation in the Netherlands is? Only 40 miles from here, like :)
I've been at since I was about 18 (ten years now, f***), when I used to try salvia (extract, not the leaves) all the time. That was like the mindfuck I mentioned before, no logic to it all and at times scary as f***. Would experiment doing it sober, then doing it on MDMA or acid. Both with radically different effects on the salvia itself. Salvia spectacular cause you flash into an OBE, go wherever you go, then you're back. You look at your friend, and you've not even put the bong down it's over that fast. It is, however, quite dangerous because you can thrash about like a mental patient. I think there was a video on youtube of a couple doing it and some guy ends up stumbling out his window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGnlqAvjFRo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGnlqAvjFRo) - Short version of the fall, and this is the couples' actual video, just so you know he doesn't die - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb76bpIWQPw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb76bpIWQPw) :lol: :facepalm:
Goes back to my point about ALWAYS having someone there that can watch out for you.
After all that, I got into reading about Terence McKenna, and he'd been using ayahuasca for decades. He's wrote many a book on it and makes valid points that well-educated people, scientists, anyone that's interested in expanding knowledge in the fields of physics or science in general, should be trying these things to expand their own perception and use the 'tools' that come from the experience.
It's something the retreats encourage you to do too, to an extent. That is, think about two or three things you want to learn, whether it be about your own psyche, or what your future might entail or how to overcome obstacles within your life, and see if you can find the answers when you're off on your trip. Of course, no one is saying there is cast iron answers to any potential question. It's a growing movement and we're all trying to discover what there is possible to discover when on the drug. One thing for sure, though, you're not just "hallucinating", ie. "imagining it" like people ascribe to anyone who generally does acid or mushrooms. That'll be hard for some to accept, but I can only say you need to try it before you can even think of trying to sum it up with a limited knowledge of science.
I'd generally never encourage anyone to try hallucinogenic drugs, especially if they're not into drugs at all, but DMT/ayahuasca is something I would. It's a life-altering experience in terms of how you view reality and opens you up to all sorts of different kinds of metaphysical beliefs. If you're looking for somewhere to start on it, watch the YT link at the top of the page, then look into Terence McKenna. Sadly dead now, but a mountain of knowledge accumulated until his departure.
Amsterdam? I don't know. Is that not a no-go for forrins now? Not sure why you asked me. :lol:
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:49:14 PM
I ask because you seem to have done the research (there's a place in Kilmarnock, one in Peru etc.).
I know what you mean about not being able to explain it to someone who hasn't done it: how do you explain 'shrooms/LSD to someone who's never done it?
But you say it's a completely different experience to hallucinogens. I am very intrigued …
And having watched that video of that tit jumping/falling out of the window while his girlfriend just watched, I think I'll give salvia a miss.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:57:50 PM
To be fair, I only heard about the Kilmarnock thing through luck, word of mouth. The guy that runs it is an ex-copper too, which encourages me for some reason. If they got rumbled, they'd be f***ed as it's a class A, I believe. Which is ludicrous and further proof of the West's illogical drug class system.
With regards to Peru, South America in general, at a guess, I think there's probably hundreds of them if not more kicking about but the one I mentioned was one suggested to me by friend that's done a tour of the region. It's legal over there, so there's no problems. Over here, we have bizarre drug laws as you know.
Yeah, good shout on salvia, not missing much. Another experience I'll not be revisiting any time soon. Still got my bottle from when I was a teen.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 07:25:55 AM
Wonder who they'll fire this time for suggesting such outlandish ideas.
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:45:31 AM
So you did! :lol: :blush:Salvia is really hit and miss with regards to who it actually works on I thought, but when it works it really f***ing works. We had one lad who tried it and ended up fully convinced he was being eaten by a giant cornflake for about thirty seconds. Another just sat there laughing his heed off for about an hour, we thought we'd accidentally swapped it with Joker venom or something. Did nothing for me the one time I tried it, though. And I definitely wouldn't want to touch the stuff without someone relatively sober to look after you.
To be fair, I only heard about the Kilmarnock thing through luck, word of mouth. The guy that runs it is an ex-copper too, which encourages me for some reason. If they got rumbled, they'd be f***ed as it's a class A, I believe. Which is ludicrous and further proof of the West's illogical drug class system.
With regards to Peru, South America in general, at a guess, I think there's probably hundreds of them if not more kicking about but the one I mentioned was one suggested to me by friend that's done a tour of the region. It's legal over there, so there's no problems. Over here, we have bizarre drug laws as you know.
Yeah, good shout on salvia, not missing much. Another experience I'll not be revisiting any time soon. Still got my bottle from when I was a teen.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:46:52 AM
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:52:31 AM
The worst thing I've ever seen someone take was that bubble stuff like. Had a mate who sniffed it fairly regularly, he showed me the dollar bill he used for it and one side of the paper was literally dyed red with his blood. And that was a 'legal' high, nee thanks.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:57:04 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cannabis-no-worse-than-junk-food-says-report-8211012.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cannabis-no-worse-than-junk-food-says-report-8211012.html)
:frantic:
Let's rock the boat of society!
Post by: BooBoo on Monday 15 October 2012, 06:14:40 PM
Pretty fascinating tbh.
Post by: Steggy on Monday 15 October 2012, 06:45:12 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 15 October 2012, 06:56:09 PM
Post by: AfroP on Monday 15 October 2012, 07:04:34 PM
then sit back and prepare yourself for a hell of a night
like wise with acid
drop a half a trip and then as s*** reaches that "fuzzy stage" when your just feeling it, double drop 2 pills or MDMA and you'll be sorted for most of the night. awesome combo that
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 15 October 2012, 07:10:11 PM
shrooms mixed in yoghurt to help with the taste and in some cases the want/urge/need to hurl and when they start kicking drop a pillCracking the f*** up at your sig :lol:
then sit back and prepare yourself for a hell of a night
like wise with acid
drop a half a trip and then as s*** reaches that "fuzzy stage" when your just feeling it, double drop 2 pills or MDMA and you'll be sorted for most of the night. awesome combo that
Post by: JCONA on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:08:04 PM
As for salvia, watching a lad do it at a party a couple of weeks ago, absolutely lost his tits like in that video, attacked a table and send drinks and s*** everywhere. Didn't look very appealing tbh!
Post by: John P on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Quite a long read but think it might interest a few in here.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:31:18 PM
As for salvia, watching a lad do it at a party a couple of weeks ago, absolutely lost his tits like in that video, attacked a table and send drinks and s*** everywhere. Didn't look very appealing tbh!
Exactly what's wrong with modern drug-takers. No respect for the power they can wield. Salvia should not be done at parties, as simple as that. It's of no wonder people don't want drugs legalised.
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:11:19 PM
Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.
The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Post by: Cajun on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:12:33 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?
Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.
The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:13:18 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?
Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.
The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?
I know Saskia's dead, if that helps?
Post by: Cajun on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:15:40 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?
Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.
The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?
I know Saskia's dead, if that helps?
Hit by an ash tray, I rest by case.
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:16:40 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?
Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.
The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?
I know Saskia's dead, if that helps?
Hit by an ash tray, I rest by case.
(http://cdn.overclock.net/6/60/600a95ef_I-See-What-You-Did-There-Rage-Face-Meme.png)
Post by: wacko on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:26:40 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?
Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.
The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Did you see that graph I posted earlier?
Alcohol is far and away the most harmful drug available, legally or not. The illegality of narcotics other than alcohol is nothing more than a political pretence. It completely ignores all the evidence and the opinions of people who actually know what they're talking about (I mean scientists who've studied the matter, not drug users).
Any brandy-quaffing eejit who tells you "drugs are dangerous" simply doesn't know what they're talking about or is knowingly lying.
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:29:50 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?
Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.
The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Did you see that graph I posted earlier?
Alcohol is far and away the most harmful drug available, legally or not. The illegality of narcotics other than alcohol is nothing more than a political pretence. It completely ignores all the evidence and the opinions of people who actually know what they're talking about (I mean scientists who've studied the matter, not drug users).
Any brandy-quaffing eejit who tells you "drugs are dangerous" simply doesn't know what they're talking about or is knowingly lying.
Pretty much as I thought, in a nutshell. Only more eloquently put. :laugh:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:51:17 PM
Who knows, the sad thing is, if they just legalised cannabis it would probably hold off the grassroots call for a complete legalisation of drugs as most just want to be able to walk down the street with a joint and not be wary of getting nicked. In saying that, E, coke, acid, etc are still 'fine' relatively speaking, and it's a farce people can have their nights, weekends, lives, careers ruined by being associated or caught with them. It goes back to the classic making criminals out of nobodies.
There's obviously certain drugs, like heroin, crack, that people should be kept away from. That would be a route for Doctors and the use of proper rehabilitation techniques (see Holland/Switzerland for success stories), but the public would need to stop their f***ing greeting and accept this s*** happens and stop the blocking of such centres being built in 'their backyards'. Had a massive argument with the ex's mum once over this. She f***ing had a petition to stop a rehab centre being built nearby, even though she agreed you needed them. It was successful. f***ing arsewipe.
Personally, I just want to be able to buy all the psychedelics I can without doing so illegally. That moves on us onto the a different class of drug. I'd, even though I started earlier than this, have an age limit of 21 possibly even 25, as there's a lot to suggest that problems can occur from use of these because the brain has yet to fully 'form' until the age of 25. But I'd much rather have problems with authority because I was too young to do something than be told that I'm not allowed to do it at all. It's difficult to work out because there's such a wide spectrum in psychedelics. Mescaline, salvia, DMT, acid should be kept for later years, and I say that as someone that did it, successfully, at 17. I did know one guy that lost it, never came back, from doing acid. Sadly, he was fake tosser to begin with and when he took acid, I think his ego crumbled and just, I don't know, his mind melted.
Mushrooms, weed are fine from 18 onwards though, the myth of "SKUNK" is hilarious.
It's all incoherent, but the gears are beginning to turn with the powers that be, so what the public think, quite frankly, isn't going to matter a jot soon.
Post by: TheHoob on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:59:54 PM
When that mcat was still legal I lost count of how many people told me they only do it because it's legal and therefore is safe/safer. I know people who wouldn't touch e's or coke with a barge pole but were perfectly happy to get smashed off their tits on mcat.
:serious:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:01:18 AM
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:03:42 AM
When you have people equating legal with safe, there are always going to be some idiots who think they can just chuck any amount of it up their noses and think they'll be fine. I agree about the drunken idiots bit though, maybe it just boils down to people needing to be better informed about drugs, rather than just getting drugs are bad m'kayyy rammed down their throats.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:07:35 AM
There needs to be more educating with drugs. There's none at the moment, legal or not.
Post by: colinmk on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:07:39 AM
One thing that would worry me about legalisation is that some people are f***ing idiots.
When that mcat was still legal I lost count of how many people told me they only do it because it's legal and therefore is safe/safer. I know people who wouldn't touch e's or coke with a barge pole but were perfectly happy to get smashed off their tits on mcat.
:serious:
Aye I know people who were the exact same with that mephrodone s****.
A lot of sensible talk there Bluf, therefore I can only assume it will never happen!
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:32:36 AM
Well, that goes back to my point that you might have to get a licence to buy drugs, and if so, you've had the drug explained to you. If someone cretin wants to ram 10 grams of coke up his snout and have a heart attack, that's his decision. Just like some idiot tanning a bottle of absinthe, getting in his car and driving into a wall.
There needs to be more educating with drugs. There's none at the moment, legal or not.
In an ideal world they could take a similar approach to some drugs as they do with alcohol, which is basically go for it, but don't overdo it and don't be a cock. People know not to drive, that it makes you feel this and that how to deal with it. Just cant see it happening for anything other than cannabis though, and even that seems like a long shot to me.
Post by: wacko on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 06:51:04 AM
One thing that would worry me about legalisation is that some people are f***ing idiots.
When that mcat was still legal I lost count of how many people told me they only do it because it's legal and therefore is safe/safer. I know people who wouldn't touch e's or coke with a barge pole but were perfectly happy to get smashed off their tits on mcat.
:serious:
Aye I know people who were the exact same with that mephrodone s****.
A lot of sensible talk there Bluf, therefore I can only assume it will never happen!
Depends. Attitudes change a lot as old folks pop their clogs and the electorate gets younger. You just have to look at gay marriage (or homosexuality in general). The only younger people against it are religious nutjobs, and opposing equal rights for gays has become politically untenable.
Brown apologised for the way Alan Turing was treated, and Cameron threatened to withdraw marriage privileges from the CofE.
Drugs may well go the same way. There have already been tentative steps. Hell, even the Americans are considering it.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 10:35:24 AM
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 11:18:07 AM
Only Jimmy Johnstone comes close in the wee baldy Scotsman category.
Post by: Incognito on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 02:32:34 PM
Great to have the Blufster back firing on all cylinders.
Only Jimmy Johnstone comes close in the wee baldy Scotsman category.
Archie Gemmill ?
Post by: wacko on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 02:34:43 PM
?
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 02:39:54 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 20 October 2012, 10:10:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P80jROjrXA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P80jROjrXA)
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 20 October 2012, 11:15:32 PM
Cheers Tooj, I really appreciate being called Scottish.
:lol:
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 21 October 2012, 12:09:14 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 October 2012, 12:59:57 PM
In here due to the fact he's talking about Outer Body Experiences. Near death experience, releases DMT...
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:31:38 PM
:hmm:
Why do these studies get recycled every couple of years..
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:34:23 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:44:29 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:46:09 PM
Never happened.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:47:07 PM
Fair bloody point that.
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Sunday 4 November 2012, 08:25:40 PM
Thats the problem with the stuff for me, it's so easy to fall into the trap of becoming a permanent stoner as opposed enjoying it every now and again.
Post by: MW on Sunday 4 November 2012, 11:35:25 PM
Post by: wacko on Monday 5 November 2012, 12:40:48 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/03/cannabis-use-could-lead-schizophrenia_n_2068995.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/03/cannabis-use-could-lead-schizophrenia_n_2068995.html)
:hmm:
Why do these studies get recycled every couple of years..
What the f***? They tested a bunch of schizophrenics and some had previously used cannabis?
Test any group you f***ing want, and chances are some of them will have previously used cannabis.
Oh, the schizos with higher brain activity were the ones that smoked weed. Perhaps it calmed their higher brain activity down, i.e. they were self-medicating.
What a load of horseshit.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:34:03 AM
It's just tired research. You'd be hard pushed to find experienced smokers that don't accept cannabis COULD cause you problems, but it's still our f***ing choice. Would rather lose my marbles when I'm kicking the into the heavens, than drink myself into a fat bloated fucktard.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:51:24 AM
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:53:07 AM
What's the best sexual drug?
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Well, this'll be fun :lol:
Post by: wacko on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:59:59 AM
What's the best sexual drug?
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Weed makes a lot of people horny, though it has the opposite effect on me :(
Stuff like E and coke can make you horny, too, but the downside is it's really, really hard to come.
Why don't you try some Viagra/Cialis? It doesn't just help blokes who can't get it up to get it up, it helps those who can to get it up again and again and again within minutes of the last time.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 12:04:43 PM
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 5 November 2012, 12:04:58 PM
What's the best sexual drug?
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Weed makes a lot of people horny, though it has the opposite effect on me :(
Stuff like E and coke can make you horny, too, but the downside is it's really, really hard to come.
Why don't you try some Viagra/Cialis? It doesn't just help blokes who can't get it up to get it up, it helps those who can to get it up again and again and again within minutes of the last time.
Oh really? Didn't realise that.
Cheers, fella. :lol:
Post by: MW on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:27:45 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Post by: Neil on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:56:13 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/)
Drugs are bad, mkay?
Post by: thomas on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:56:24 PM
What's the best sexual drug?Legal cocktail: L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum. 1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount. Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others.
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though. Like a few days before you notice anything major.
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 5 November 2012, 09:08:21 PM
What's the best sexual drug?
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Always found E a good sexual drug but once you get a stalk on, you are done for.
Acid as well, on an acid come down im f***ing rampant.
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 5 November 2012, 10:07:35 PM
What's the best sexual drug?Legal cocktail: L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum. 1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount. Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others.
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though. Like a few days before you notice anything major.
:lol:
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 01:51:14 PM
Colorado and Washington supposedly legalise recreational weed, step in the right direction?
http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed (http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed)
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 02:07:50 PM
Post by: Hudson on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 03:44:06 PM
What's the best sexual drug?
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
There you go limpy :p
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-SEX-PILLS-8000MG-HERBAL-ERECTILE-DYSUNCTION-IMPOTENCE-AID-ENLARGEMENT-/281012555566?pt=UK_Health_HealthCare_RL&var=580152251218&hash=item416da74f2e (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-SEX-PILLS-8000MG-HERBAL-ERECTILE-DYSUNCTION-IMPOTENCE-AID-ENLARGEMENT-/281012555566?pt=UK_Health_HealthCare_RL&var=580152251218&hash=item416da74f2e)
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 04:22:54 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but:
Colorado and Washington supposedly legalise recreational weed, step in the right direction?
http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed (http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed)
Aye, talked about in the US thread when the results came in. Exciting times, the change is coming, hold your smoke in, boys. The cops will be gone soon!
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 07:04:36 PM
Quote
People will not be able to smoke in public, like at baseball games or in parks.
People growing their own plants can have up to six at a time, with no more than three being mature at any given time.
Growers will be allowed to possess their entire harvest, even if it exceeds one ounce.
Plants will have to be grown in secured areas that are not visible to the public.
Employers will not have to accommodate people who wish to smoke. Drug testing and firing based on marijuana will still be allowed.
Post by: johnnypd on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 08:22:09 PM
hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time :bong:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 08:25:29 PM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.
hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time :bong:
:lol: O0
I smoked a s*** lot last night down to this news. Felt like an obligation.
Post by: nuneaton on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 09:41:24 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 09:45:31 PM
only just seen this thread, f***ing hell, where do i start?
Couple of Es, then some speed from the west end, round it all off with a nice big spliff.
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 09:53:59 PM
What's the best sexual drug?Legal cocktail: L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum. 1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount. Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others.
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though. Like a few days before you notice anything major.
This is made all the more hilarious when I remember it's from the same man that made a sponge vagina.
Post by: Hudson on Thursday 8 November 2012, 08:50:06 AM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.
hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time :bong:
The stuff you get in Cali is amazing, never before in my life have i tripped of weed.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 4 December 2012, 08:55:26 AM
Got to love Dr. Nutt, he's not going down quietly.
Post by: womblemaster on Saturday 8 December 2012, 04:31:20 AM
How soon before it sweeps across wearside...
Post by: B-more Mag on Sunday 16 December 2012, 05:38:11 PM
Post by: Ste on Sunday 16 December 2012, 08:53:30 PM
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:57:52 AM
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weed is a gateway drug.. i heard from a friend that her mom died of a weeds overdose.. how can we get attention for this cause? #cut4bieber
I despair, I really do.
Post by: Kasper on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 01:05:39 AM
This whole cutforbieber thing because he smoked some weed :facepalm:Quoteweed is a gateway drug.. i heard from a friend that her mom died of a weeds overdose.. how can we get attention for this cause? #cut4bieber
I despair, I really do.
Seems like it started as a hoax and then people really started doing it :lol:
http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/ (http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/)
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 01:22:39 AM
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:20:42 PM
This whole cutforbieber thing because he smoked some weed :facepalm:Quoteweed is a gateway drug.. i heard from a friend that her mom died of a weeds overdose.. how can we get attention for this cause? #cut4bieber
I despair, I really do.
Seems like it started as a hoax and then people really started doing it :lol:
http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/ (http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/)
#cutbieber would be a much better campaign
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:30:26 PM
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html)
Post by: olliemort on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:39:08 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 04:06:14 PM
:thup:
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html)
Hero. My mate met him when he was in Vegas a few years back. I say met, more of a bumped into and shoehorned his way to the front, but said he got out of his 'truck', and was f***ing stinking of weed. I want his life.
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 04:17:52 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 04:18:37 PM
Post by: JCONA on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:01:54 PM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.
hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time :bong:
The stuff you get in Cali is amazing, never before in my life have i tripped of weed.
Is it even possible to get good stuff here? Been to amsterdam a few times and what I can get round here doesnt compare with it so I hardly ever bother unless its being shared about :undecided:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:10:57 PM
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:14:36 PM
Was never Pete Doherty but I would get royally ripped off if I attempted to get anything now.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:17:35 PM
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:21:18 PM
I'll give you £34 for half a gram or I'm walking away.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:27:22 PM
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Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 02:59:18 AM
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 10:37:06 AM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.
hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time :bong:
The stuff you get in Cali is amazing, never before in my life have i tripped of weed.
Is it even possible to get good stuff here? Been to amsterdam a few times and what I can get round here doesnt compare with it so I hardly ever bother unless its being shared about :undecided:
Of course it is. As Bluf said you just need to know the right people. :thup:
One my mates was exactly the type of person Bluf described. He would only grow it to sell to our close circle of friends though. He's had to stop for the time being due to moving flats, but whenever you got stuff he always used to give you loads more than you would pay for the going rate. Was always a very good crop too.
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 10:38:04 AM
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:00:54 AM
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:06:32 AM
We used to buy 9-bars so we could split them and get ounces far far cheaper.
Nowadays I wouldn't have a clue where to go. And I'm fancying some for the first time in over a decade.
I suspect the amount of dope that would get me high (these days) could be measured in draws rather than weight :lol:
Yeah, last time afrop was over mine...he came over with his missus, we had a smoke in the garden while the lasses were chatting..
I was f***ing SMASHED. Wor lass was livid, couldn't even eat the dinner she made for us.
Then later massivley got the munchines.
Post by: Disco on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:07:27 AM
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Post by: colinmk on Friday 18 January 2013, 01:35:50 PM
I smoke on and off, it's good when you are playing music and that, helps with creativity. Had one joint in Amsterdam though in the summer there when we were over and I was off my tits. My girfriend didn't stop talking absolute s**** for about 3 hours. Big difference in the green we get and that stuff. There was a website not so long ago that myself and my friends ordered from and that was similar to the amsterdam stuff. I think they charge loads now though.
Post by: Jay Jay Sea on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:00:50 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:01:17 PM
In the last 6 months, I've smoked AK, Sensi, bluecheese, purple haze and northern lights. No better or worse than you get in Amsterdam.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:02:50 PM
Does anyboday know how easy/difficult for a chap to obtain LSD these days?
Comes and goes, for me. It becomes widely available in the summer, though, make a killing off people. You just need to make contacts, and more importantly, hold on to them.
Post by: johnnypd on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:28:24 PM
quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 04:05:55 PM
:lol:
I smoke on and off, it's good when you are playing music and that, helps with creativity. Had one joint in Amsterdam though in the summer there when we were over and I was off my tits. My girfriend didn't stop talking absolute s**** for about 3 hours. Big difference in the green we get and that stuff. There was a website not so long ago that myself and my friends ordered from and that was similar to the amsterdam stuff. I think they charge loads now though.
Its a head f*** when two birds who aren't stoned are talking like Scatman John or whatever he is called.
Post by: AfroP on Friday 18 January 2013, 05:13:03 PM
We used to buy 9-bars so we could split them and get ounces far far cheaper.
Nowadays I wouldn't have a clue where to go. And I'm fancying some for the first time in over a decade.
I suspect the amount of dope that would get me high (these days) could be measured in draws rather than weight :lol:
Yeah, last time afrop was over mine...he came over with his missus, we had a smoke in the garden while the lasses were chatting..
I was f***ing SMASHED. Wor lass was livid, couldn't even eat the dinner she made for us.
Then later massivley got the munchines.
lol you were flattened like
was a good night, your Mrs was seriously unimpressed lol
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:17:51 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.
quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
I blame the tobacco, man. That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk. There's the odd occasion, but mostly. Tobacco ruins weed. HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste. Wrong on all levels.
Post by: Steggy on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:54:01 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.
quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
I blame the tobacco, man. That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk. There's the odd occasion, but mostly. Tobacco ruins weed. HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste. Wrong on all levels.
So you only smoke blunts? I think literally everyone i know that blazes and that i have blazed with use differing levels of baccy.
Post by: johnnypd on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:54:44 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.
quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
I blame the tobacco, man. That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk. There's the odd occasion, but mostly. Tobacco ruins weed. HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste. Wrong on all levels.
I'm thinking the same thing, doesn't compare to smoking out of my water pipe.
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:55:21 PM
I haven't smoked blunts for years like. That was a good time of my life.
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:56:04 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.
quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
I blame the tobacco, man. That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk. There's the odd occasion, but mostly. Tobacco ruins weed. HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste. Wrong on all levels.
I'm thinking the same thing, doesn't compare to smoking out of my water pipe.
What type of pipe are you using? I need to re-invest.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:58:00 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.
quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
I blame the tobacco, man. That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk. There's the odd occasion, but mostly. Tobacco ruins weed. HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste. Wrong on all levels.
So you only smoke blunts? I think literally everyone i know that blazes and that i have blazed with use differing levels of baccy.
I'm a pipe/dignified bong man.
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:58:19 PM
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:01:18 PM
:weep:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:02:18 PM
I remember that discussion. :lol:
Post by: Dave on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:02:37 PM
I'll try and find a picture of my baby that accidentally got smashed about a year ago. She was beautiful. :(
In isolation this post is amazing.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:03:58 PM
Post by: johnnypd on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:04:07 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.
quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
I blame the tobacco, man. That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk. There's the odd occasion, but mostly. Tobacco ruins weed. HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste. Wrong on all levels.
I'm thinking the same thing, doesn't compare to smoking out of my water pipe.
What type of pipe are you using? I need to re-invest.
glass bubbler, bit like this one : http://www.alibongo.co.uk/catalog/hand-made-bubbler-pipe-lugworm-p-3979.html?oscsid=5f99154b0a6976d1a733ab5618578afc (http://www.alibongo.co.uk/catalog/hand-made-bubbler-pipe-lugworm-p-3979.html?oscsid=5f99154b0a6976d1a733ab5618578afc)
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:36:45 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:37:41 PM
We used to buy 9-bars so we could split them and get ounces far far cheaper.
Nowadays I wouldn't have a clue where to go. And I'm fancying some for the first time in over a decade.
I suspect the amount of dope that would get me high (these days) could be measured in draws rather than weight :lol:
Yeah, last time afrop was over mine...he came over with his missus, we had a smoke in the garden while the lasses were chatting..
I was f***ing SMASHED. Wor lass was livid, couldn't even eat the dinner she made for us.
Then later massivley got the munchines.
lol you were flattened like
was a good night, your Mrs was seriously unimpressed lol
Yeah, how much did you put in that bifta?
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:47:30 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:59:24 PM
Post by: JCONA on Friday 18 January 2013, 08:34:13 PM
You can get some top quality s*** here, you don't need to leave the country. You just need to know good dealers and growers. Or an all in one growing-dealer. :frantic:
Well if you say so but can't exactly look them up in the yellow pages lol. When I was at uni I knew friends of friends who you could get it off but it was always average to crap stuff.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 09:56:17 PM
You can get some top quality s*** here, you don't need to leave the country. You just need to know good dealers and growers. Or an all in one growing-dealer. :frantic:
Well if you say so but can't exactly look them up in the yellow pages lol. When I was at uni I knew friends of friends who you could get it off but it was always average to crap stuff.
Well I've just come back from my dealer with a big bag of bluecheese and a bag of unknown homegrown. I stunk the bus out on the way back, talk about looks that could kill. :lol:
I get you though, it's luck, it's willingness to pay more sometimes, when it comes to getting good stuff/dealers. For years I did smoke s*** stuff, until I met someone through a friend at work. My advice is, if you ever get a good dealer, NEVER lose his number. :thup:
In my experience, you get two kinds. You get those that want to make a bit of money, but would rather peddle good stuff and would rather go without if s*** stuff is on the scene, or those that are just out for the profit and sell you s***, for the same price. The latter is scum, and the sole reason cannabis should be legal.
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Post by: JCONA on Saturday 19 January 2013, 09:51:18 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 09:52:13 AM
He's at my uni :laugh: Didn't realise that had gone viral!
Really? :lol:
Was this related to his course? :laugh:
Post by: Rocker on Saturday 19 January 2013, 10:10:27 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 10:10:55 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 03:10:22 PM
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Giving up the Green Bitch: Reflections on Cannabis, Ayahuasca and the mystery of plant teachers. By Graham Hancock
I have some personal stuff to share here and I intend to do so with complete openness in the hope that my experiences will prove helpful to some, thought-provoking to others, and might stir up discussion around issues of consciousness and cognitive liberty that are often neglected in our society. Please also “like” this post – if you do like it! – and share with your friends if you think they’ll find it of interest
I’m going to Brazil on Wednesday and I’ll be there for three weeks during which I’ll have seven sessions with the visionary brew known as Ayahuasca, the “Vine of Souls”, sacred amongst shamanistic cultures of the Amazon for thousands of years.
I’m not doing this for fun, or for recreation. Drinking Ayahuasca is an ordeal. It is, for a start, amongst the most horrible tastes and smells on the planet – a mixture of foot-rot, raw sewage, battery acid, sulfur and just a hint of chocolate. Within about 45 minutes of drinking it you frequently begin to suffer bouts of severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. It is not for nothing that it is also known as “the purge” in the Amazon! And then, alongside the light and joy and valuable life lessons that are often part of Ayahuasca journeys, there are the sometimes terrifying psychic challenges including visionary encounters with seemingly malevolent entities in convincingly freestanding parallel realms that can be distressing to say the least.
So… I’m bracing myself. But I don’t feel too much fear because of the deep understanding that has gradually settled on me during the ten years I’ve worked with Ayahuasca that a being of pure and boundless love, who may even be that being recognized by some ancient cultures as the mother goddess of our planet, has harnessed the brew, in the context of time-honoured ceremony, to gain access to human consciousness and to teach us to do the best we can with the precious gift of our life on this earth.
I know how strange this may sound to those who have never drunk the Amazonian brew and never encountered “Mother Ayahuasca” in one of her many forms. Moreover – let me be clear – I am not making any empirical claims about the reality-status of the sorts of experiences I’m talking about here. Perhaps they ARE all “within the brain” as skeptics say. Perhaps they ARE all imaginary (although if so we must explain the transpersonal character of these imaginings). Perhaps they ARE “just hallucinations”. Or perhaps what is going on here is that our brains are transceivers rather than generators of consciousness, in which case could it be that Ayahuasca temporarily “retunes the receiver wavelength of the brain”, giving us fleeting access to other levels or dimensions of reality not normally accessible to our senses? This is a serious question, and one that is taken seriously by increasing numbers of scientists working at the cutting edge of consciousness studies.
But setting aside the unsolved problem of whether Mother Ayahuasca is real or not, what is interesting is that at the level of phenomenology many, many people have undergone encounters with her during Ayahuasca sessions and have had their behavior and their outlook profoundly changed as a result. Those changes are real even if materialist science would like to reduce the entity who inspires them to a mere epiphenomenon of disturbed brain activity.
Very often this entity (who, I repeat, may or may not be real but is experienced as real) gives us profound moral lessons in the depths of the Ayahuasca journey. We may be shown episodes from our lives in which we have behaved unkindly or unjustly to others, or been mean-spirited and unloving, or have failed to live up to our own potential, and we will be shown these things with absolute clarity and transparency, with all illusions and excuses stripped away, so we are confronted with nothing more nor less than the cold, hard truth about ourselves. Such revelations can be very painful. Frequently people cry during Ayahuasca sessions because of them. But they bring insight and give us the chance to change our behavior in the future, to be more nurturing and less toxic, to be more considerate of others and to be more aware than we were before of the incredible privilege the universe has given us by allowing us to be born in a human body – an opportunity for growth and improvement of the soul that we absolutely must not waste.
Perhaps this is one of the reasons why Ayahuasca has been so very successful in getting people off addictions to harmful hard drugs. For example, Dr Jacques Mabit has for many years been offering heroin and cocaine addicts incredibly effective treatments with Ayahuasca at his Takiwasi clinic in Tarapoto, Peru, where they might typically undergo 12 sessions with Ayahuasca in the space of a month. See here: http://www.takiwasi.com/docs/arti_ing/ayahuasca_in_treatment_addictions.pdfA (http://www.takiwasi.com/docs/arti_ing/ayahuasca_in_treatment_addictions.pdfA) very high proportion of participants have such powerful revelations about the roots of their own problems and behavior during the sessions that they leave Takiwasi completely free of addiction, often without withdrawal symptoms, and never resume their habit. The success rate is far better than any of the conventional Western treatments for drug addiction.
Likewise in Canada Dr Gabor Mate was offering phenomenally successful Ayahuasca healing sessions to his drug-addicted patients before the Canadian government stepped in and stopped his work on the grounds that Ayahuasca itself is an illegal drug – see here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/bc-doctor-agrees-to-stop-using-amazonian-plant-to-treat-addictions/article4250579/. (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/bc-doctor-agrees-to-stop-using-amazonian-plant-to-treat-addictions/article4250579/.)
Yes, indeed, Ayahuasca IS an illegal drug, in the narrow Western definition of the term that allows big pharmaceutical companies to make billions out of marketing consciousness-altering substances like Prozac or Ritalin but will send us to prison for exploring our own consciousness with time-honoured sacred plants such as those that go into the Ayahuasca brew.
The plants concerned, which are simply cooked together with water, are the Ayahuasca vine, Banisteriopsis caapi , and a shrub from the coffee family, Psychotria viridis, called chacruna in the Amazon. (A very few other plants are also known to produce an effective brew, but B. caapi and P. viridis are probably the most widely used).
The illegal element, contained in the leaves of P. viridis, is dimethyltryptamine (DMT), arguably the most powerful hallucinogen known to man. Normally in the West when we encounter DMT it must be smoked – producing a rapid, overwhelming, but short-lived (12-15 mins) alteration of consciousness, with which there is no negotiation. The smoking route has to be taken because there is an enzyme in our gut called monoamine oxidase that switches off DMT on contact. The ancient shamanistic societies of the Amazon, however, have found a workaround for this problem in the form of B.caapi, the vine itself, the other ingredient of the Ayahuasca brew which, it turns out, contains a monamine oxidase inhibitor that switches off that enzyme in our gut and allows the DMT in the chacruna leaves to be absorbed orally. The result is a long, reflective (up to four hour) visionary journey with which a great deal of negotiation is possible and that is very different qualitatively from the intense but brief experience of smoked DMT.
How, thousands of years ago, did shamans manage to select these two plants out of the estimated 150,000 different species found in the Amazon and learn to marry them together with water to produce the extraordinary potion that we know as Ayahuasca? It is a bit of mystery but shamans today claim it was not done by trial and error. Their ancestors, they say, were taught the secret by spirit beings as a gift to mankind.
Certainly those who have experienced the profound healing of harmful addictions that Ayahuasca can bring would agree that the brew is a very special gift. And in this matter I speak not only from my knowledge of the research but also from personal experience.
In my case the addiction was not to heroin or cocaine but took the form of a 24-year cannabis habit that I began in 1987 at the age of 37 and that I stopped abruptly at the age of 61 after five traumatic – but ultimately positive and life-changing – Ayahuasca sessions in Brazil in October 2011.
In what I have to say next I want to make a number of things extremely clear.
(1) I am not putting down or disparaging cannabis or those who choose to use it. The “Green Bitch” in the title of this article is not cannabis itself but the abusive, self-indulgent relationship, entirely my own responsibility, that I had developed with the herb.
(2) I recognize that cannabis can be an immensely helpful plant ally and that it has uniquely beneficial medicinal applications.
(3) Quite apart from these medicinal properties, I recognize that the sensual qualities of cannabis can also be of great value – enhanced appreciation of food, music, the joys of love-making, the wonders of nature, and so on and so forth
(4) I believe absolutely and unconditionally that it is the right of adults – an inalienable and fundamental human right – to make sovereign decisions over their own consciousness, including the right to enjoy the effects of cannabis, and to benefit from its medicinal properties, should they choose to do.
(5) I remain as strongly opposed as I have ever been to that wicked and evil enterprise called “the war on drugs” which only serves to empower criminal gangs on the one hand and the worst and most controlling elements of government on the other. My views on this matter have not changed a jot since I wrote this article, “The War on Consciousness”, in 2009: http://www.grahamhancock.com/features/the-war-on-onsciousness.php. (http://www.grahamhancock.com/features/the-war-on-onsciousness.php.)
(6) Last but not least, I fully recognize that I myself benefitted greatly from some aspects of my long relationship with cannabis. It lightened me up a lot in all sorts of ways and encouraged me to explore unusual connections between things that I would not normally have connected. I was a current affairs journalist when I was 37 (that was in 1987 -- I was born in 1950) and I had written some non-fiction books on travel and current affairs issues, but I don't believe I would ever have moved on to writing about ancient mysteries (still non-fiction, although many of my critics would disagree!) if it hadn't been for the new way of thinking that cannabis drew me into.
My first investigation of an ancient mystery was “The Sign and The Seal: A Quest for the Lost Ark of the Covenant” (http://bit.ly/WdzHSr (http://bit.ly/WdzHSr)), which I began to research seriously in 1987, shortly after getting into cannabis. “The Sign and The Seal” was published in 1992. During the writing of that book it was my habit to smoke cannabis only in the evenings for an hour or two before going to bed, but things changed from 1992 onwards when I began to work on my next non-fiction historical mystery “Fingerprints of the Gods” (http://bit.ly/HLvTqa (http://bit.ly/HLvTqa)). This was when I began to smoke cannabis all day long and to experiment with writing while I was stoned. I liked the result and it soon became my practice to light up my first joint (or pipe if it was hash) the moment I sat down at my desk in the morning and then just to carry on smoking all day long until I went to bed – often in the small hours of the morning. This remained my habit thereafter – smoking continuously from morning to night, whether writing or not, and gradually seeking out stronger and stronger strains of the herb.
In 2006 or 2007 I switched from combustion products to a Volcano vaporiser and at the same time began to buy from a grower who has amazing green fingers and produces incredibly powerful varieties of bud, most usually a variety called "Cheese" – I guess because of the smell – but way stronger than anybody else's product of that name that I have sampled.
Cannabis had always exaggerated paranoid tendencies that I probably have already, but these began to come more and more to the fore from 2007 onwards with very negative effects on my behaviour. The worst was that with absolutely no real-world justification at all I began to become increasingly jealous and suspicious of my beloved partner Santha, who is the most honest and true person I could ever hope to know. We would have increasingly frequent shouting matches, always initiated by me, as I accused her of all sorts of things that she had not done and would never do. And while part of me knew I was behaving in a more and more crazy way I couldn't stop the behaviour or the feelings that were causing it. We still had happy times but the jealousy and suspicion kept tightening their grip on me and I can honestly say that I made Santha's life a misery between 2007 and 2011. It is a miracle and a tribute to her goodness of heart, care and love for me that she didn't simply walk out and leave me, but instead patiently and tolerantly persisted with me and tried to get me to see sense.
So what was it those five sessions of Ayahuasca showed me in October 2011 that led me abruptly, overnight, to end my cannabis habit? After all I had already been smoking cannabis for 16 years when I first began to drink Ayahuasca in 2003, initially as part of the research for my last non-fiction book “Supernatural” (http://bit.ly/IID9NF (http://bit.ly/IID9NF)) but later as a form of regular spiritual work. I drank Ayahuasca at least three times a year every year after that so what changed, what was so different, about those sessions in 2011?
When I look back on the whole process now, I can see that right from the very first session Ayahuasca was giving me messages about the need to moderate my cannabis habit, and showing me how my obsessional relationship with the herb was feeding and empowering negative aspects of my character. What’s more I received those messages loud and clear! But by then I was already so involved with cannabis, so convinced that I could not live my life without its help, and so sure that all my creativity would dry up and wither if I did not continue to smoke it, that I simply ignored and blanked out what Ayahuasca was trying to tell me. Perhaps if I hadn’t done that and had listened carefully instead, I have could have got my relationship with cannabis into some sort of constructive balance and stayed within the boundaries of responsible use rather than self-indulgent abuse, and perhaps then I would never have needed to reject the herb completely as Ayahuasca finally compelled me to do in 2011.
The process began on 30 September 2011 just before Santha and I flew down to Brazil. We were in the United States, at a location I won’t disclose, where I smoked a pipe of pure DMT.
I had smoked DMT before. My first two experiences, in England in 2004, were terrifying (for those who are interested I describe them in my book “Supernatural” [http://bit.ly/IID9NF]). Then in 2009 I had three pipes in one night in the same US location I found myself in in 2011 and had amazing healing experiences. Rotating lights moving all over my body, a sense that I was being scanned and that something was being fixed, some (slightly scary) computer-like circuitry that seemed to be sentient, an encounter with a sorcerer/magician figure who opened a rip in the earth for me and showed me an ancient buried city, etc, etc. It was all great fun and rather exciting. Same thing happened in 2010 – two pipes that time, separated by about an hour – and more beautiful, healing experiences.
So when I found myself back at the same location in the US in 2011 I felt relaxed and welcomed what I expected would be another pleasant healing excursion to the DMT realms. I certainly had no expectation that anything particularly disturbing or terrifying would happen to me.
Turned out I was wrong.
As soon as I took my first long draw I had the unsettling feeling that something intelligent and not necessarily friendly had leapt into my head from the spherical glass pipe. I held in the smoke as long as I could, then took another long draw. By now there was a crackling buzzing sound in my ears and I felt utterly overwhelmed and had to lie back at once (I always lie back; no way can I stay sitting up!). Immediately things were very different (though with some similarities) from all my previous smoked DMT experiences. The first thing I saw was something like a mandala with an ivory background and intricate brick-red geometric lines –like tracks – inside it. Between the lines, or tracks, imposed on the ivory background, were a large number of clock faces with weird hands. I've seen something like this before, not under smoked DMT, but under a very strong dose of Ayahuasca. It terrified me then, don't know why, and it proceeded to terrify me again. Then I realised that the mandala (only an approximation; there was something very like computer circuitry about it as well, or even like one of those toy race-car tracks where little electric cars whizz round and round) was sentient and focussed on me. I got a hint of eyes or feelers. There was something very menacing about the whole scene, and I began to feel uncomfortable and restless in my body and had enough of my everyday consciousness left at that point to wish profoundly that I hadn't smoked the pipe, and felt myself struggling – uselessly of course – against the effect. Then I heard an ominous voice, filled with a sort of malicious glee, that said very clearly "YOU'RE OURS NOW". And I thought, s***, yes, I am yours now, not much I can do about it, but it's only for about ten more minutes and then I'm out of here.
Since it was pointless to struggle I resigned myself to the situation and thought, OK then, get on with it, and immediately the mandala/intelligence and lots of its little helpers (who I felt but cannot describe) were all over me. I had the sense that my body was a huge, fat, bloated cocoon and that these beings were tearing it apart, tearing off lumps of matter and throwing them aside, getting access to the real, hidden me. I was aware that this was a place of absolute truth, like the Hall of Maat in the ancient Egyptian tradition, and that everything about me was known here, every thought, every action, good and bad, throughout my whole life – and the sense that the real hidden me within the cocoon was utterly transparent to these beings and that they were finding me wanting. About as far from being "justified in the judgement" – as the Egyptian texts put it – as it is possible to be, and that therefore I might face annihilation here. And I heard something like a trumpet blast and a loud voice that announced, as though this were a proclamation at court: "NOW THE GREAT UNFOLDING WILL BEGIN". Or possibly: "NOW THE GREAT TRANSFORMATION WILL BEGIN."
That was the point where I lost consciousness of the material realm completely, and indeed of everything else. Feeling utterly helpless, utterly in the power of whatever process I was going through and of the intelligence that was running it, I fell into a darkness that seemed to last forever. I have no conscious recollection of what happened to me in there, only the conviction that it was something massive. When I began to come out of it there were some moments – though this felt much longer than moments – when I was deeply confused and disoriented and had absolutely no idea where I was or why I was there. I could see the room around me but didn't recognise it, didn't even know it was a room at first, or even what a room is, and it kept melting back into that other terrifying reality out of which I was emerging. This has never happened to me with DMT before – I’ve always known, even in the depths of the experience, that I was having that experience because I had smoked a pipe of DMT and my body was in a specific place, which I did not forget, at a specific time. This was completely different and very, very scary.
Gradually my eyes began to focus, I remembered I had smoked DMT, and I looked around and saw Santha sitting on the edge of the bed, very calm, and incredibly strong. I was immersed in a wild melting storm of colours and the only clear sure thing in the whole place for me was Santha with her amazing strength and beauty, and lines of light emerging from her body and rising up out of her and surrounding her. I remember falling to my knees on the floor in front of her and telling her "I found you again" or something such (the sense was that I had known her in a past life and had found her again in this one) and also telling her that she is a goddess. I felt shaken, but basically happy to be back on planet normal and was able to witness the sessions of several other participants without actually falling apart or melting down.
Over the next two days as we left the US and made the journey to Brazil I thought quite a lot about what had happened to me and began to feel very apprehensive. If I had been "theirs" for 10 minutes and it had been so overwhelming, what was it going to be like for me being "theirs" for four hours at a time in the upcoming Ayahuasca sessions (since DMT is, of course, the primary active ingredient of Ayahuasca)??
Accordingly on the night of the first session in Brazil (Monday 3 Oct) I chickened out and had a (for me) small cup of just 80 mililitres. Nothing much happened that night. Just restlessness and annoyance at myself for not taking a bigger dose.
So on the night of the second session – Wednesday 5 Oct – I increased the dose to 140 mililitres. The first two hours passed uneventfully and I was thinking, with some relief, that nothing was going to happen when I became aware of a great serpent looking at me. Just the eye filled with wisdom and compassion. I got the message – I can work with you but you have to surrender to me. So I did surrender and in fact said out loud "I surrender". Immediately she was inside me – a huge, very warm, almost hot presence inside my chest. I was immobilised, literally pressed down onto the mattress and felt a tremendous vibrating sensation inside my chest and along my arms, and I thought – Wow! This is weird. But I could no longer resist or do anything about it, and the presence (whom I construe as Mother Ayahuasca) worked her way down into my abdomen and then down to my groin, and then back up again all the way up my trunk, up inside my chest, into my neck and finally into my head where she spent a very long time. I felt I was in the hands of a great power that was doing stuff with me whether I liked it or not. I have always trusted Mother Aya so I didn't feel fear and stayed calm while this was being done to me.
Then suddenly the presence left, and I could move again, and I thought – what an amazing blessing Mother Aya has just given me, to work with me for so long, and I felt sure that I had been healed. But just when I was feeling that, I was suddenly back into the same DMT space again that I had got lost in in the US and the feeling of calm and healing gave way to terror. I was aware once again of an entity (one this time; not many) all over my body, dancing around me, filled with malice, and I spent the next half hour or so in utter terror, and also feeling in some way betrayed by Mother Aya – that she had left me in the hands of this, that she had let me be "theirs" again.
The third session I took a low dose and pretty much escaped under the radar.
The fourth session I increased the dose, and Santha also took a larger dose, and we went through an extraordinary series of traumas together. Santha had the sense of some terrible dark being pulling out her heart and saying to her "I'm going to take you to teach Graham a lesson". She communicated this to me – and I at this point had the DMT trickster all over me again – and I totally freaked out. I had a massive realisation of all the pain I had caused Santha in recent years, and how this was a black mark on my soul and how I had absolutely got to do something about it and stop living selfishly for me and start being a nurturing, loving, giving and above all trusting presence in her life – otherwise I would be doomed, and I would doom her too. I was filled with grief and terror that she would die right there on the mattress beside me. Both of us were sobbing and crying. Santha grabbed hold of me and said "don't let them take me" and our shaman came over to help and began singing just an amazingly poignant and beautiful song which in due course helped to ground both of us.
The next morning in the sharing (a common feature of Ayahuasca sessions worldwide) I expressed my intent to change my behaviour and be a better partner to Santha in the future, and I said I was determined to change my relationship with cannabis. I didn't think it was realistic, after 24 years, to give it up completely but I resolved to go back to my pre-1992 pattern of only smoking at night and never again all day as well.
On the fifth session, after the traumas of the fourth, I took a very small cup of Ayahuasca – less than 50 militres; still I didn't quite get under the radar. I was approached by entities offering me food and drink but I remembered the rule expressed in many ancient cultures that one should never eat food in the Underworld (witness, for example, the story of Demeter and Persephone) so I refused and opened my eyes to stop the vision.
At the final sharing I once more expressed my intent to rid my life of all jealousy and suspicion towards my wonderful Santha, and to get my relationship with cannabis under tight control, smoking only at night, not all day.
We flew home on 14 October arriving 15 October. Very tiring and uncomfortable journey with no legroom and the fasten-seat-belts sign on almost all night. I naturally wanted to comfort myself with a little cannabis when we got back so I fired up my vaporiser and filled a nice fat bag. But as soon as I started to smoke it I began to feel really awful – as though my head were filling up with a poisonous fog. Immediate massive paranoia set in and I felt I was on the edge of going completely insane. I persevered and took a few more puffs but the feeling of madness just got worse and worse. Panic and total self-revulsion seized me. Something I have never felt before with the herb. The upshot was that I squeezed out the rest of the vapor in the bag to get rid of it without smoking it and put the vaporiser away. As I walked upstairs from my office, filled with paranoia, convinced I was going crazy, and disgusted at myself, I suddenly realised that my stated intention in Brazil "to change my relationship with cannabis and use less of it" just wasn't enough. It wasn't good enough just to use it less. It hit me with the force of a revelation. I could never smoke cannabis again or I would be doomed. I had become a complete slave to my abusive, seductive relationship with the herb, it had exacerbated the worst aspects of my personality, and my only hope was to give it up completely. Sure, I reasoned, it might be difficult for me to write without it (since for so long it had been inextricably interlinked with my writing life) but I was just going to have to deal with that.
So I have not smoked any more, well over a year has passed, and I remain resolutely determined never to smoke again. I feel free now. Liberated. As though a whole new chapter of my life has opened up in front of me. I find myself enjoying little things I didn't enjoy before, appreciating every moment that I am not stoned and that my head is clear. It feels GREAT to have a clear head! My concerns about the effect on my writing have also turned out to be completely groundless. I had feared I would loose my inspiration without the herb to inspire me but quite the opposite has turned out to be the case. I am buzzing with new ideas and creativity. Also I’m MUCH more efficient – writing between three and five times as many words a day as I did before.
Last but not least my crazy jealousy and suspicion of Santha have evaporated like a bad dream. I simply don't have those feelings any more, or the toxic behaviour that used to go with them. We're having lots of fun together and have rediscovered the positive and beautiful basis for our love.
As to my soul, I think I’ve been given another chance – a chance not to be found wanting in the judgement when death finally comes. I am grabbing that chance with both hands.
Graham Hancock, January 2013
The experiences described in this article were also the subject of a talk I gave at a recent TEDx conference in London. When the video of that 18-minute talk is up on the web I will post the link here.
Post by: AfroP on Saturday 19 January 2013, 06:05:13 PM
Yeah, how much did you put in that bifta?
Just what I would normally whack in to a spliff for you.
but it was some pretty decent gear
Post by: Bish on Saturday 19 January 2013, 06:08:39 PM
He's at my uni :laugh: Didn't realise that had gone viral!
Really? :lol:
Was this related to his course? :laugh:
Don't think so, his Facebook is hilarious though, 90% of the content is based around him being off his tits
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote text is tiny...link to the real article?
Reading that :yao:
It's actually just a post on his FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/GrahamHancockDotCom/posts/564442543584242 (https://www.facebook.com/GrahamHancockDotCom/posts/564442543584242)
Aye, taken me some time to get through it. One for later...
Post by: Froggy on Sunday 20 January 2013, 07:27:49 AM
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Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 22 January 2013, 07:07:11 PM
http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/difference-between-pot-and-hash (http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/difference-between-pot-and-hash)
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 02:09:23 PM
:aww:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 02:21:17 PM
Post by: MW on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 07:48:50 PM
A lot of gear that
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 07:50:39 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 26 January 2013, 07:22:37 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Saturday 26 January 2013, 07:27:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Gd4D8td.jpg)
:aww:
:lol:
Post by: ElDiablo on Saturday 26 January 2013, 07:34:48 PM
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Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 05:45:35 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21254907
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 05:46:23 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:03:08 PM
Post by: AfroP on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:10:13 PM
I could do with a big fat bifta now!
that makes 2 of us!!
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:26:54 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:29:12 PM
Tramadol is a nasty, nasty drug. Been off it for two days, after an op, and I've been, and still am, sketchy as f***. Never known withdrawal like it. Stick to codeine, kids.
Loved it. :lol:
Should be starting it again on Friday actually. Although I'll need to be careful with it this time, no time to f*** about. I found codeine withdrawal quite bad, to be honest with you. I had been on it for nearly a year.
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:34:38 PM
Tramadol is a nasty, nasty drug. Been off it for two days, after an op, and I've been, and still am, sketchy as f***. Never known withdrawal like it. Stick to codeine, kids.
Loved it. :lol:
Should be starting it again on Friday actually. Although I'll need to be careful with it this time, no time to f*** about. I found codeine withdrawal quite bad, to be honest with you. I had been on it for nearly a year.
What did you love about it? What was your dosage? Just felt dirty as f*** to me, like. Read up on it a bit, seems as if it's a more synthetic version of codeine phosphate.
I take codeine for problems with my guts, but only ever a couple times a year. Means I don't get dependent or build up a tolerance. Codeine buzz is lovely. :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:39:14 PM
Tramadol gave me a s*** load of energy, felt like I was on E'. Remember being in work once, being so hyper that I had a word with myself in the bathroom mirror about calming down. Work couldn't say s***, every c*** knew I was buzzing. Used to have to take about 300mg over the course of a day when my knee was really bad.
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:49:12 PM
I was taking 100mg of Tramadol every four hours and I was climbing the f***ing walls. My lass was sick of me chatting absolute s****. Felt like some really cheap coke, or nasty speed. Needed it for the pain, but as soon as it eased I ditched them. Past two days have been horrific, but no way am I touching any more. Apparently bodybuilders buy them for a fiver a pill, so that seems a good option with more than 60 odd left. :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:54:04 PM
Aye, some people are well into them. I would never pay, I just like the plus sides when my knee is f***ed.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:54:51 PM
I'm going to be a nightmare if they fix my back. :lol:
Although as I've been on that high of a dosage for so long it doesn't really touch the sides anymore.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:55:34 PM
Enjoy your withdrawals when you get them. :laugh:
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:56:50 PM
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Post by: chicken little on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 09:53:55 PM
The names for green are getting ridiculous now, I'm sure its just idiot dealers who don't know their strains and make s*** up. Just picked up a quarter of "Silverback" ffs, the hell is that? :lol:
i've bought two lately on account of the names, 'green crack' (smashed my brain out) and 'laughing train' (did not make me feel like laughing one bit).
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 09:54:45 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess
What's your technique? What papers do you use?
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:05:31 PM
his bro are perfect at building joints
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:19:05 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess
What's your technique? What papers do you use?
nothing special. long silver rizla, roach from travelcard on the right, roll it tight but not too tight, needs to breathe, lick the some of the part of the skin you're meant to, but lick mostly the outside (only lick outside for a ciggy). yourself?
Post by: wacko on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:20:08 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess
With ciggies, I leave tobacco everywhere. With weed, I very carefully roll in an old plastic lunchbox (fittingly branded "Spacemaker") cos I'm gonna smoke all the scraps in it at some point.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:30:51 PM
I use 3 normal sized skins (red Zig zags my preferred ones) stick two together by licking the end of the gum on one. Then lick the gum on the third. Fold in half, place in between the other two then remove so they then stick together.How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess
What's your technique? What papers do you use?
nothing special. long silver rizla, roach from travelcard on the right, roll it tight but not too tight, needs to breathe, lick the some of the part of the skin you're meant to, but lick mostly the outside (only lick outside for a ciggy). yourself?
Really can't stand kingsize skins.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:32:29 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:34:56 PM
So even though I use three skins only two are in the finished item. So it burns better.
(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5668/n5btvzs.jpg) (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/n5btvzs.jpg/)
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:35:31 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:36:12 PM
That's the way my mates do it, Tooj. Not rolled with paper in years though, love getting cigar skins and doing blunts.Going to give ye old blunts a shot over the weekend. Haven't had one for about 5 years so I expect not to function until next Wednesday.
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:36:15 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:41:20 PM
I use a rolling tray when necessary, great invention. Not a fan of DVD cases
Don't start me on DVD cases. :knuppel2:
Post by: colinmk on Thursday 31 January 2013, 12:11:27 AM
Post by: MW on Thursday 31 January 2013, 07:41:47 AM
Post by: AfroP on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:02:08 AM
but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it
Post by: JS on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:43:20 AM
Queue half an hour later and I see another one, me thinking it was the same one again smashed it and found a leg afterwards. Still no body.
Then what the f*** would you know, 2 of the b******s appeared on each wall. So I thought f*** this s***, ran downstairs and slept on the couch under loads of blankets in an igloo. Woke up to some odd questions the morning after, but did find 1 spider corpse. Freaky s***.
I didn't think they would make you trip? ???
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:44:42 AM
Post by: JS on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:45:26 AM
You shouldn't drink on opiates or take opiates after drinking. Can't blame the drugs all the time.
Yeah, there's a lesson :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:45:37 AM
can back roll a perfect cone, can roll a normal bifta, can skin a blunt, can stick 2 or 3 little papers together and i think i did 3 big papers once as a challenge round gimps house.
but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it
Down with tobacco. :thup:
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 31 January 2013, 10:34:42 AM
can back roll a perfect cone, can roll a normal bifta, can skin a blunt, can stick 2 or 3 little papers together and i think i did 3 big papers once as a challenge round gimps house.
but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it
Hes my biffta butler :lol:
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 31 January 2013, 10:35:25 AM
can back roll a perfect cone, can roll a normal bifta, can skin a blunt, can stick 2 or 3 little papers together and i think i did 3 big papers once as a challenge round gimps house.
but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it
Down with tobacco. :thup:
He also took on the challenge on one new year of using those brandy flavoured cigar leaves or summik. Impressive.
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:20:08 PM
One of my mates perfected the art of back-skinning with the silver skins, really are the nicest joints I've smoked. Pretty much no paper.
Hehe. I can do that. Only ever bother if I'm trying to show off, though. Can't be bothered waiting for it to dry.
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:23:54 PM
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:31:20 PM
You have to be able to roll very well for it to work.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:33:37 PM
Post by: Oakie Doke on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:34:19 PM
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:44:05 PM
What is back skinning? Honestly, never heard of it. I'm well versed in 'Ls', tulips and all that, but that's new to me.
A picture says a thousand words:
(http://momama.net/images/backroll.jpg)
Just wish there were more than tobacco in it :(
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:03:00 PM
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:16:28 PM
We used to give the end a good licking, then fold it down like the end of a cigar. Not so easy to get the bugger lit, mind you.
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:28:20 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:29:49 PM
How did it go if it was? Worth it etc :lol:
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:35:09 PM
Easiest £900 I've ever made. 4 Night stay at some ward in London, it was for some kind of hay fever drug. Took the pill, got my blood tested a few times a day, piece of p*ss. Always a risk of the unknown but an alright way to make a bit of cash if you pick and choose the right trial like.
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:39:54 PM
Rolled some big 'uns at Dino's once, kicked some arse on FIFA too, as I remember. :smug:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:42:03 PM
Aye did one to fund my holiday to Aiya Napa :lol:
Easiest £900 I've ever made. 4 Night stay at some ward in London, it was for some kind of hay fever drug. Took the pill, got my blood tested a few times a day, piece of p*ss. Always a risk of the unknown but an alright way to make a bit of cash if you pick and choose the right trial like.
:lol:
Wow, I've never actually known anyone to do this. Amazing. :thup:
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:50:07 PM
Aye did one to fund my holiday to Aiya Napa :lol::thup: class :lol:
Easiest £900 I've ever made. 4 Night stay at some ward in London, it was for some kind of hay fever drug. Took the pill, got my blood tested a few times a day, piece of p*ss. Always a risk of the unknown but an alright way to make a bit of cash if you pick and choose the right trial like.
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:59:58 PM
Love a backroll, although liquorice skins used in the manner of Mr Tooj's description is my favorite roll. :thup:
Rolled some big 'uns at Dino's once, kicked some arse on FIFA too, as I remember. :smug:
Gangster.
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 1 February 2013, 10:35:43 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 1 February 2013, 10:59:22 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 1 February 2013, 11:06:25 PM
Think your scenario would be alright.
Post by: Cajun on Friday 1 February 2013, 11:13:13 PM
Us it generally frowned upon to drive after a little bifta? Like not a full on Doob, just a nice little relaxer.
Will probably feel a little silly when you kill a young family due to impaired reaction times.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 1 February 2013, 11:18:53 PM
Us it generally frowned upon to drive after a little bifta? Like not a full on Doob, just a nice little relaxer.
Will probably feel a little silly when you kill a young family due to impaired reaction times.
Yeah, you see thats not going to happen though. Definitely not any more so than having a pint if lager or something anyway. Not saying it's big or clever and I haven't done it in years, but I used to like having one then going fir a drive late at night. tunes on, heaters on.
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 2 February 2013, 10:56:18 AM
Us it generally frowned upon to drive after a little bifta? Like not a full on Doob, just a nice little relaxer.
Will probably feel a little silly when you kill a young family due to impaired reaction times.
Should have put "bus full of school children" for added effect. :lol:
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 2 February 2013, 01:40:54 PM
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 3 February 2013, 02:58:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_I_Live_In_%282012_film%29
Well worth seeing. :thup:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 5 February 2013, 04:45:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2395HLF4Yw
Terribly long, but if you're into this sort of thing...
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 6 February 2013, 10:59:39 AM
Has anyone seen 'The House I Live In'?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_I_Live_In_%282012_film%29
Well worth seeing. :thup:
Watched this last night Wuliie, bloody hell. I guess you always knew in the back of your mind this is roughly what is going on but this really hammers it home. :dave:
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 7 February 2013, 05:15:48 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 February 2013, 09:44:23 PM
Brutal, absolutely brutal.
However, yet another reason drugs, particularly marijuana, should be legalised and regulated.
Post by: wacko on Thursday 7 February 2013, 11:22:59 PM
Politicians are scumbags.
Post by: Froggy on Monday 11 February 2013, 07:08:13 AM
Post by: Al Moody on Monday 11 February 2013, 08:28:45 AM
I had some MDMA on Saturday night, according to the guy who sold it anyway. It was the best stuff I've ever had. I've had MDMA at home before but this stuff just blew me away and it was in the tiniest capsule I've ever seen. I had it right at the end of the party though and started peaking when I was in a taxi on my way to another party. :lol: The taxi man had a right chuckle at me.
:lol: :lol:
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 11 February 2013, 09:43:35 AM
I had some MDMA on Saturday night, according to the guy who sold it anyway. It was the best stuff I've ever had. I've had MDMA at home before but this stuff just blew me away and it was in the tiniest capsule I've ever seen. I had it right at the end of the party though and started peaking when I was in a taxi on my way to another party. :lol: The taxi man had a right chuckle at me.
MDMA is clean n sexy.
Post by: JS on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:30:44 AM
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:31:40 AM
Post by: JS on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:36:51 AM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:06:30 PM
I get massive cravings for endless bags of Onion ring crisps. Recently I cant get enough of plain greek yoghurt though. Excess Pizza is always classic too. Love eating when high.
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:07:17 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:27:25 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:35:30 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:40:26 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:47:59 PM
Hurt myself at the weekend and the hospital put me on diazepam, codeine and dicolfenac. Then had a snus and some 'amnesia' to smoke and that's me in bed :lol:
Diclofenac. :lol:
That'll not do much for you mate, just another NSAID like profen. Reminds me of a time when my mate came back from wherever the f***, Italy I think, going, "been on the codeine and Tylenol" all week, feel like s*** on FB. Well, burst his bubble when I informed him he'd basically been taking paracetamol with his already laden in paracetamol codeine tablets. Silly man. Not that you're doing the same, obviously!
Nice cocktail otherwise though, chief!
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:49:36 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 14 February 2013, 03:23:21 PM
Any form of biscuit is my downfall like.
Disco biscuits?
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Any form of biscuit is my downfall like.
Truth...and crazy sour skittles.
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:33:14 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:39:45 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:48:24 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:58:26 PM
:whistle:
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 14 February 2013, 05:05:32 PM
What are prices like in the UK for an eighth or a quarter?
:whistle:
1/8th is £20 but unless you've got a good dealer its not often that its actually an 1/8th.
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 05:17:00 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 14 February 2013, 05:18:53 PM
I remember the good old days of those big bags being packed full of green. Now I barely get half a small bag. Might report the thieving gypos.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 14 February 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:36:07 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:37:21 AM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:46:00 AM
No idea what a capsule costs, I just get it in grams. Which range from 25-60 depending on quality of stuff/dealer. Capsules man, someone's out to make a bit of money.
It was sickening learning the prices at the beginning, couldn't get a pill of E for any less than $25. Everything's just inflated with the wages here I guess.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:50:51 AM
Time to come home.
Post by: Froggy on Friday 15 February 2013, 08:02:02 AM
Holy s***, about 15 quid? :o
Time to come home.
Aye. :lol: I wasn't massively into much back home so I didn't really realise how cheap it was until I came here. In Perth sure it's $250 for a gram of coke. I simply couldn't pay that.
Post by: MW on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:32:28 PM
As for munchies, generally get pizza delivered for dinner. Other snacks include various chocolate, sweets like haribo or wine gums, mars ice creams are just perfect, twisters also go down well.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:33:27 PM
I spend 30 and get a really good amount of Thai weed. You can get skunk for 20 but after 6 spliffs or so that's gone
As for munchies, generally get pizza delivered for dinner. Other snacks include various chocolate, sweets like haribo or wine gums, mars ice creams are just perfect, twisters also go down well.
We'd be good stoner pals in another universe. O0
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Holy s***, about 15 quid? :o
Time to come home.
Aye. :lol: I wasn't massively into much back home so I didn't really realise how cheap it was until I came here. In Perth sure it's $250 for a gram of coke. I simply couldn't pay that.
I'll keep that price in mind when I'm in Perth in December. :lol:
Though I'm generally scared about how much I'll spend in the 10 days I'm there.
:scared:
Post by: MW on Friday 15 February 2013, 08:15:57 PM
I spend 30 and get a really good amount of Thai weed. You can get skunk for 20 but after 6 spliffs or so that's gone
As for munchies, generally get pizza delivered for dinner. Other snacks include various chocolate, sweets like haribo or wine gums, mars ice creams are just perfect, twisters also go down well.
We'd be good stoner pals in another universe. O0
Perhaps one day...
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 15 February 2013, 08:48:00 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 16 February 2013, 01:15:06 AM
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201210/psilocybin-and-brain-function
Post by: JCONA on Tuesday 19 February 2013, 08:31:53 PM
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-future-of-drugs
Love vice magazine. Crushing honesty though!
Post by: JCONA on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 08:59:00 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 09:42:08 PM
Post by: JCONA on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 11:01:10 PM
Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 21 February 2013, 12:20:42 AM
Forgot, actually came in this thread yesterday to state that had some weed with friends on the weekend and once again it was crap. Would love a rateyourdealer.com website!
Silk Road has a feedback system. I've not used it though. (yet)
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 22 February 2013, 04:51:13 PM
Post by: AfroP on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:11:45 PM
What age do people stop taking drugs then? Imagine i'll stop with the class A's or 'party' drugs the more I settle down like. Couldnt ever see me stopping smoking green though. Is it an age thing? at 40 year old do you ever still fancy a few lines and reet session?
at 35 I can quite happily say yes! I'll have a few lines some pills and some smoke, quite happily once in a while for a good sesh
cant be doing the all weekened thing though and when i had some pills at xmas it took me a while to fully recover, but then I was also p*ssed as fook
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:17:51 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:21:20 PM
What age do people stop taking drugs then? Imagine i'll stop with the class A's or 'party' drugs the more I settle down like. Couldnt ever see me stopping smoking green though. Is it an age thing? at 40 year old do you ever still fancy a few lines and reet session?
I still smoke a good amount at 28. Aint done owt else for a while but put it in front of me and I'll gnaw you're hand off.
Don't let the b******s grind you down, Zaius.
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:29:52 PM
im 37 btw
Dont forget people still drink and smoke into their 70s and 80s.
Not that i'd be pilled off my face on E in a care home like.
Post by: AfroP on Friday 22 February 2013, 07:05:57 PM
Same as afro, just now and then...its good to have a mind meldge now and again. See the world in a different light.
im 37 btw
Dont forget people still drink and smoke into their 70s and 80s.
Not that i'd be pilled off my face on E in a care home like.
nah they'd be giving you far more legal s*** in the care home :-)
Post by: Froggy on Friday 22 February 2013, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 22 February 2013, 09:22:51 PM
When will you stop drinking?
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 22 February 2013, 09:30:59 PM
Post by: Tooj on Friday 22 February 2013, 09:35:05 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Saturday 23 February 2013, 11:19:33 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 23 February 2013, 01:56:54 PM
AGAIN, another reason for appropriate legislation on drugs, honest drug education and an awareness of the dangers. Is any of the above true, Jim, if you're knowledgeable about that sort of stuff?
Post by: JCONA on Saturday 23 February 2013, 05:24:56 PM
Post by: Hudson on Saturday 23 February 2013, 10:08:26 PM
Hey, would you do drugs if I told you I came home with three capsules of DMT this evening? :shifty:
Where did you get that from, Graham hanckock recons that stuff is the best out of mind and body experiance. Apparently it has a very high sucess rate and getting addicts off there addicition.
Post by: Jill on Saturday 23 February 2013, 10:14:43 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 23 February 2013, 10:53:26 PM
Hey, would you do drugs if I told you I came home with three capsules of DMT this evening? :shifty:
Where did you get that from, Graham hanckock recons that stuff is the best out of mind and body experiance. Apparently it has a very high sucess rate and getting addicts off there addicition.
Morrisons. Fiver a capsule.
I got it off a dealer in Glasgow, you madsack. :lol:
Post by: ED209 on Sunday 24 February 2013, 12:36:38 PM
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 24 February 2013, 12:39:36 PM
drugs is for mugs
:thup:
Playing arcade games in he 90s told me winners don't use drugs and tbf I never saw a single crackhead beating Bison so they were probably right.
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 24 February 2013, 06:02:04 PM
drugs is for mugs
:thup:
Playing arcade games in he 90s told me winners don't use drugs and tbf I never saw a single crackhead beating Bison so they were probably right.
I dont know like, im pretty handy on games when wrecked...tho not watching afrop on COD MW2 running round at high speed stabbing people, gave me motion sickness and had to go to bed.
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 24 February 2013, 06:44:10 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 24 February 2013, 09:05:32 PM
Are you still the best dancer in Wallsend?
Im pretty hot tbh but i was never the best dancer on the estate. That went to a guy who looks like an ex chelsea player, cant remember his name. Played for liverpool as well.
Sit hot he was, Sunday nights in the local club. Could narf shift.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 6 March 2013, 11:02:39 PM
Interesting read.
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:05:21 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:09:23 AM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:12:34 AM
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:16:26 AM
It's risky. You're taking an awful lot of trust in the sender. Do not advise...
Well the senders not what im scared of. Known him my whole life/best mate. I'm more worried of it getting intercepted or something and then they've got my address and s*** or something like that.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:23:02 AM
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:34:03 AM
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:37:12 AM
Precisely. Do you trust him enough not to f*** it up. :lol:
:lol: Well yeah, i do. Just wanted to know whether they check post at all or not with scanners or sniffer dogs or something.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:37:16 AM
Anyway just get him to send it, it's not like the Royal Mail have sniffer dogs.
Post by: chicken little on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:14:44 PM
carrying through customs isn't as scary/stupid as it sounds, though i am prone to some idiocy. carrying into croatia (f*** that) for one, and also coming back from a heavy weekend in manchester and realising, halfway over the north sea, i've got half-a-dozen pills in my pocket i had completely forgot about buying.
but aye. smuggling is fun, easy, and a good way to make an absolutely minimal amount of money.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:17:38 PM
More established places use vacuum bags. DVD cases. f***ing DVD cases. :lol:
Post by: chicken little on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:28:10 PM
might as well stick a few of these in here seeing as i'll never get another opportunity :bong: :bong: :bong: :bong: :bong: :bong: :bong: :bong: :bong: :bong:
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:51:42 PM
Post by: AfroP on Thursday 7 March 2013, 06:36:10 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Thursday 7 March 2013, 07:49:44 PM
I once took a load of stuff to Disney Land Paris as well, eurostar - no security check at all.
Wouldn't try that s*** nowadays like.
I'm going to a pals summer house in the south of France this summer and would love to take a bit of weed, but it's obviously not happening.
Post by: colinmk on Thursday 7 March 2013, 08:13:05 PM
Post by: JS on Thursday 7 March 2013, 08:43:01 PM
This seems to be like the only thing that stops my mind and just lets me totally relax and :aww: :aww: . Is that bad? ???
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 7 March 2013, 08:47:02 PM
Post by: AfroP on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:21:21 PM
afro order dome stuff
for when and what?
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:39:28 PM
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:43:42 PM
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:44:17 PM
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:44:38 PM
Post by: BillClinton on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:46:40 PM
Post by: Cajun on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:12:46 AM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:29:45 AM
Post by: colinmk on Friday 8 March 2013, 10:10:00 AM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".
Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 10:16:16 AM
Post by: Rocker on Friday 8 March 2013, 10:40:35 AM
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 11:34:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9PgLBN1MZhM
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 11:36:09 AM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".
Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).
Would not touch a legal high, talked about this with pals before. Weird scenario.
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:09:46 PM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".
Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).
Would not touch a legal high, talked about this with pals before. Weird scenario.
I tried that one people were calling Meow Meow a while ago when it was still legal. Hated it. It was nice at the time, but the comedown was rough and it f***ing stank.
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:12:53 PM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".
Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).
Would not touch a legal high, talked about this with pals before. Weird scenario.
I tried that one people were calling Meow Meow a while ago when it was still legal. Hated it. It was nice at the time, but the comedown was rough and it f***ing stank.
Yeah had, I think i called it Tree Sherbet.
I was waxed after a couple of small lines. Kept me up all night/
Post by: Steggy on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:47:47 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:51:03 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:51:51 PM
Not really heard much about legal highs. Just curious, why are people saying they wouldn't touch them?
For me, it's to do with the fact that people don't really know much about them yet, if they're fairly newly designed drugs.
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:54:52 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:58:02 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:59:52 PM
Post by: colinmk on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:17:31 PM
Because they're just variations on the established chemical compounds, put together to avoid legal restrictions, with absolutely zero consideration for how it'd effect the body.
Exactly. I realise people cut normal drugs with other s**** but I'd much rather that risk than the legal highs.
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:26:51 PM
Because they're just variations on the established chemical compounds, put together to avoid legal restrictions, with absolutely zero consideration for how it'd effect the body.
Exactly. I realise people cut normal drugs with other s**** but I'd much rather that risk than the legal highs.
However dealers cut their drugs - they're not going to do it with dangerous chemicals or anything dodgy. At the end of the day they want your repeat business. Love the old wives tale of things being cut with rat poison and all the rest of it.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:36:07 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:42:54 PM
Is that any different to any other drug though dependant on who you get it off? (although replace "legal restrictions" with "cost")
Well, I don't remember a bag of weed ever rotting out someone's stomach and rendering someone a vegetable. Whereas a legal high 'substitute' for weed did. Inochi gets it spot on. The deaths caused by these legal highs have been far worse than anything caused by traditional drugs.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:48:24 PM
I'm more thinking about pills. Weed isn't a chemical drug, it's a plant so you cannot really go wrong unless you're smoking tack, which I haven't seen anyone do in like 10 year :lol:Is that any different to any other drug though dependant on who you get it off? (although replace "legal restrictions" with "cost")
Well, I don't remember a bag of weed ever rotting out someone's stomach and rendering someone a vegetable. Whereas a legal high 'substitute' for weed did. Inochi gets it spot on. The deaths caused by these legal highs have been far worse than anything caused by traditional drugs.
I cannot really see the difference in risk from a pill to a 'legal high' (depending on what the legal high is obviously), both are chemically engineered to give you a buzz... I'm not massively clued up though.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:51:52 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:54:15 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:58:57 PM
The deaths from E have largely been due to people over drinking water, flooding their system. It's extremely rare you hear of people dying because of something that was cut into E, or coke etc. These pills that get sold that caused deaths are largely down to chemicals that should never be thrown into the mix together. I know where I stand with every traditional illicit drug, but these f***ers leave you in a bad place if they do f*** you. I guess the hysteria is probably a bit overboard at times though. But I'll never get over anyone losing their stomach over a 'legal high'.:thup:
Yeah I know what you mean. They aren't even strictly "legal" anyway are they? And aren't exactly easier to get hold of so it is probably a bit pointless.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:00:51 PM
I'm more thinking about pills. Weed isn't a chemical drug, it's a plant so you cannot really go wrong unless you're smoking tack, which I haven't seen anyone do in like 10 year :lol:Is that any different to any other drug though dependant on who you get it off? (although replace "legal restrictions" with "cost")
Well, I don't remember a bag of weed ever rotting out someone's stomach and rendering someone a vegetable. Whereas a legal high 'substitute' for weed did. Inochi gets it spot on. The deaths caused by these legal highs have been far worse than anything caused by traditional drugs.
I cannot really see the difference in risk from a pill to a 'legal high' (depending on what the legal high is obviously), both are chemically engineered to give you a buzz... I'm not massively clued up though.
Here, divn't be dissin' Tac man, ye little fuckin' radge packet.
Had some tac/resin not too long ago as couldn't get weed. Amazing, man. So much more mellow than weed, I could just go throughout the day constantly smoking tac. Not in a bong or owt, like.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:03:49 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:04:45 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:05:24 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:
It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.
Post by: colinmk on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:06:45 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:06:55 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:07:23 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:
It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.
There's a hash cafe down here (London) run by a Moroccan family. They sell a few different types of hash and resin, each one i've tried has been bloody lovely. Some you don't even need to burn to crumble it. Must go back there sometime.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:09:39 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:10:15 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:
It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.
There's a hash cafe down here (London) run by a Moroccan family. They sell a few different types of hash and resin, each one i've tried has been bloody lovely. Some you don't even need to burn to crumble it. Must go back there sometime.
That sounds amazing! I've had some proper, Moroccan squidgy black before. Rolled a geet thick snake into a joint, with no idea how strong it was. Fell asleep/passed out on the bog in some random lasses apartment in Barcelona.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:11:16 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:12:36 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:
It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.
There's a hash cafe down here (London) run by a Moroccan family. They sell a few different types of hash and resin, each one i've tried has been bloody lovely. Some you don't even need to burn to crumble it. Must go back there sometime.
That sounds amazing! I've had some proper, Moroccan squidgy black before. Rolled a geet thick snake into a joint, with no idea how strong it was. Fell asleep/passed out on the bog in some random lasses apartment in Barcelona.
It's great. You have to have a membership card or be a guest of somebody who does when you go in. You go through a door of what looks like an abandoned building, up the stairs and then there's somebody on the door. Stepping inside, it smells of mint tea - drapes and curtains everywhere and 2 massive rooms, one of them with 5 pool tables.
Think I've lost my membership card, though, and don't hang about with the person who first took me.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:13:14 PM
I've seen resin and pollen like, just not the ounces of old.
Bounce for an Ounce.
Fuckin' whistle crew
Post by: Disco on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:18:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:21:11 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:21:28 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw
:anguish:
FFS Mc Fuckin Stompin, the only MC who sounds like he has another mans balls in his mouth while rapping.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:23:28 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck when I was 16:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw
:lol: Wasn't Barker's car by any chance was it?
Post by: Disco on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:25:32 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck when I was 16:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw
:lol: Wasn't Barker's car by any chance was it?
:lol: Nah but it doesn't surprise he liked this drivel, was a Hexham lad.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 11 March 2013, 01:07:27 AM
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Monday 11 March 2013, 03:11:11 AM
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 March 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck when I was 16:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw
TBF this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J_6WHvaiuw
After 5/6 pills, 3 in the morning, packed rave. Mint at the time.
Post by: MW on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 12:43:43 AM
Post by: wacko on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 07:50:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gWA491H4U
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 08:01:45 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 08:44:06 PM
Post by: AfroP on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 09:10:31 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/people-whose-lives-were-destroyed-by-marijuana
I hope to god that article is not for real and is just a massive p*ss take
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 09:18:36 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 10:54:06 PM
:dowie:
Post by: JS on Wednesday 13 March 2013, 07:07:16 AM
The woman that is on Twitter is real, I actually stumbled upon her the day before I read/posted that link. Absolutely moronic c***. Can't work out if it's just a parody.
I thought that would have been easy for you - 100% a parody
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 13 March 2013, 07:27:28 AM
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 19 March 2013, 10:58:33 PM
Never had it before but have seen Bluf and Tooj champion it on several occasions so looking forward to giving these bad boys a try.
Post by: jotenko on Tuesday 19 March 2013, 10:59:23 PM
GOD WILL NOT BE HAPPY
DONT TAKE DRUGS YOU WILL DIE
I ONLY TAKE ALCOHOL HAXIXE AND COCAINE
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 March 2013, 11:00:21 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 02:25:40 AM
:crazy2:
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 02:35:01 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 01:56:39 PM
Post by: BillClinton on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 09:22:01 PM
Post by: JS on Saturday 23 March 2013, 11:02:09 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 27 March 2013, 12:20:10 PM
Never running out again. I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 27 March 2013, 12:37:17 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 27 March 2013, 12:42:43 PM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals. Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark. I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery. I've never felt so bad. Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live.
Never running out again. I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.
Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 28 March 2013, 12:22:34 AM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals. Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark. I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery. I've never felt so bad. Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live.
Never running out again. I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.
Can imagine opiate withdrawal to be complete torture.
Benzo withdrawal is f***ing horrific an all. No energy, no sleep, no appetite, a lot of puking/dry retching and general constant feelings of panic and anxiety.
You just have to gradually reduce your dosage one step at a time, it's a long and hard b****** of a process.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 28 March 2013, 12:35:33 AM
Post by: JB on Thursday 28 March 2013, 12:38:38 AM
:bong: :bong: :bong:
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 28 March 2013, 01:18:51 AM
I am doing some drugs right now, tonight should be good.
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 28 March 2013, 08:23:34 AM
I might do a live web feed for when I eventually stop taking them. :lol:Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals. Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark. I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery. I've never felt so bad. Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live.
Never running out again. I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.
Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 28 March 2013, 08:45:02 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:19:30 AM
I might do a live web feed for when I eventually stop taking them. :lol:Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals. Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark. I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery. I've never felt so bad. Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live.
Never running out again. I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.
Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
You'll need to do something, chief. I'd wean off them as properly as I could, it's notoriously hard to kick (I'm sure you know), but I forgot just how bad!
Post by: jotenko on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:20:08 AM
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:26:45 AM
I might do a live web feed for when I eventually stop taking them. :lol:Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals. Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark. I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery. I've never felt so bad. Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live.
Never running out again. I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.
Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
You'll need to do something, chief. I'd wean off them as properly as I could, it's notoriously hard to kick (I'm sure you know), but I forgot just how bad!
I didn't have much experience of tramadol, so had no idea how intense the withdrawal would be after only a fortnight. Boggles my mind how long term users manage without it.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:35:24 AM
Post by: MW on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:42:29 PM
Post by: ElDiablo on Friday 29 March 2013, 02:08:58 AM
Post by: Slim on Friday 29 March 2013, 02:14:53 AM
booked for amsterdam the late may bank holiday weekend. cant wait. be class if we get to the final, 2 trips in 2 weeks. bigger group this time as well, was just me and 1 mate last time
Cheers for the invite
Post by: JCONA on Friday 29 March 2013, 09:56:01 AM
How easy is it to get anything else apart from weed in Amsterdam?Used to be gangs of black lads hassling you to buy anything and everything at nights walking down the touristy (red light) streets. Last time I went there there wasn't as many though
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 29 March 2013, 09:58:26 AM
Post by: MW on Friday 29 March 2013, 10:02:05 AM
booked for amsterdam the late may bank holiday weekend. cant wait. be class if we get to the final, 2 trips in 2 weeks. bigger group this time as well, was just me and 1 mate last time
Cheers for the invite
:okay: its my uni house from our last year
Post by: chicken little on Friday 29 March 2013, 03:06:12 PM
It's unbelievably easy, like. Get asked at least once down every street, I'd worry more about the people trying to sell.
don't buy from these people. whatever drugs you get, if they actually are drugs, are more than likely to be s****. aside from chatting onto locals in pubs/whatever, the best bet would be to get in a cab outside the train station and just straight up ask the driver if they would be able to sort you out.
aside from weed, coke is all over the place (got some myself for the four day weekend, as it happens) and very good quality if you have a decent connection. same dudes will usually be able to get mdma and all.
other stuff, i dunno. sure it isn't that hard.
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Used to be gangs of black lads hassling you to buy anything and everything at nights walking down the touristy (red light) streets. Last time I went there there wasn't as many though
moved to the warmoesstraat last summer, and these f***ers are all over the shop. more and more crackheads and all.
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 March 2013, 08:07:12 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:20:06 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:21:42 AM
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:22:55 AM
Had some sniff last night, worryingly seem to be back addicted to it, I gave up all drugs, and I used to hammer them every weekend going to raves from the age of 15-23. No idea why I have restarted :anguish:
Good craic?
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:25:12 AM
You had some last night, and you've decided 24 hours later you're addicted to it again? :lol:
You had some last night, and you've decided 24 hours later you're addicted to it again? :lol:
haha nah, been for the past few months, considering I hadnt had any for a good 4 years, and I mean anything. I have no idea why its suddenly reappeared. Need to pack it in, like now really
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:26:03 AM
Had some sniff last night, worryingly seem to be back addicted to it, I gave up all drugs, and I used to hammer them every weekend going to raves from the age of 15-23. No idea why I have restarted :anguish:
Good craic?
Nah it was f***ing awful as well. Really weak and basically couldn't sleep so drove home from a mates at 6.30 am. Rough as
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:27:15 AM
You had some last night, and you've decided 24 hours later you're addicted to it again? :lol:
haha nah, been for the past few months, considering I hadnt had any for a good 4 years, and I mean anything. I have no idea why its suddenly reappeared. Need to pack it in, like now really
Ah, fair enough, chief. I get you, pack it in if it worries you. Although, that it worries you tends to be a good thing.
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:31:19 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:33:28 AM
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:40:51 AM
Post by: MW on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:49:21 AM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:54:23 AM
It shouldn't be physically difficult to cut out just as alcohol isn't?
Post by: chicken little on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:45:32 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:47:06 AM
Post by: chicken little on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:53:32 AM
Post by: chicken little on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:54:07 AM
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 30 March 2013, 02:11:26 AM
Post by: B-more Mag on Saturday 30 March 2013, 11:46:09 AM
meanwhile, i've spent the best part of a decade thinking i should do something about the fact i smoke 3-5 joints a day to no avail.
3 to 5 a day? :lol: What kind of work do you do? (None of my business, really.)
Post by: Al Moody on Sunday 31 March 2013, 12:58:20 PM
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 31 March 2013, 01:35:48 PM
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SEA DMT
GOD MOLECULE OR BARNACLE REPELLENT?
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Writing almost exclusively about psychoactives, it is not unusual for me to be contacted by strangers who wish to report on the effects of various drugs. Most of these reports are uninteresting, but occasionally I receive something unusual. The following letter from a pseudonymous tryptamine chemist serves as a prime example:
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Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 31 March 2013, 04:58:41 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in? :angel:
:lol:
Post by: Al Moody on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:15:53 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in? :angel:
:lol:
I'm serious you git. I'll be on the old soda waters when we go to watch the mackem match.
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:28:14 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in? :angel:
:lol:
I'm serious you git. I'll be on the old soda waters when we go to watch the mackem match.
:lol: Will you f***, you're worse than me.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:29:20 PM
Post by: Rocker on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:30:20 PM
So had 8 20mg Valiums, 11 Tramadols, a couple of pints (paid for by Tommy, no less), then I a good smoke when I got home. Drugs are good, mmkay.
Jesus. How are you still typing?
I'd be ruined.
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 31 March 2013, 06:41:45 PM
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Post by: icemanblue on Sunday 31 March 2013, 07:37:31 PM
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Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:22:03 PM
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:29:44 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:
Do you work with writers for a soap opera?
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:30:58 PM
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:32:31 PM
I work with a bunch of men over the age 40...
That explains a lot tbh.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:46:40 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:
Aye, it's pathetic. I lost a good few friends post-school years because I was a junkie. A junkie that smoked cannabis. Utter, utter brainwashed simpletons.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:48:24 PM
Bluf loves a couple of huge dids, like.
I don't know what this means?
Post by: BillClinton on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:48:30 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:
Yup its very annoying. Especially with jobs where you have to take a drug test, yet people can show up Monday completely hungover, barely able to function and it's not a problem.
Post by: thomas on Sunday 31 March 2013, 09:26:45 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:I work with 4 people who remind me of https://twitter.com/ConcernedMom420 ,except they're serious :sigh:
Post by: Al Moody on Sunday 31 March 2013, 09:44:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s:lol:
Post by: Froggy on Monday 1 April 2013, 08:11:54 AM
Bluf loves a couple of huge dids, like.
I don't know what this means?
Dids is slang for pills IIRC.
Post by: JS on Monday 1 April 2013, 12:22:55 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in? :angel:
I'll join ya :snod: :sad:
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 1 April 2013, 04:47:14 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in? :angel:
I'll join ya :snod: :sad:
You'll find it a very lonely exercise. :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 1 April 2013, 05:17:53 PM
Bluf loves a couple of huge dids, like.
I don't know what this means?
Dids is slang for pills IIRC.
Oh, I see! Nah, I prefer organic drugs, mushrooms, weed, ayahuasca. Stuff we can grow, not create in a lab. The best chemically produced drug in the last 100 years is LSD, however.
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 2 April 2013, 09:55:06 PM
Hammering drugs on a weekend isn't an addiction man, an addiction is when your body is dependent on the drug.
It shouldn't be physically difficult to cut out just as alcohol isn't?
This is the issue, I have to drink to cut out anxiety, then when I drink I automatically need it. I don't even like drinking particularly, means to and ends.
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 2 April 2013, 11:29:49 PM
So I reckon this could help my new fitness regime a fair bit and also help me re-focus on my job. All I know is I'm not feeling as tired as I usually do at this time of night :lol:
Post by: BillClinton on Wednesday 3 April 2013, 05:09:49 PM
Can't be long now till the attitude changes, the positives are really overwhelming the negatives and people are starting to notice.
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 3 April 2013, 06:17:18 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:
Aye, it's pathetic. I lost a good few friends post-school years because I was a junkie. A junkie that smoked cannabis. Utter, utter brainwashed simpletons.
Aye a lot of people I know are like that too. I've never touched drugs in my life (alcohol doesn't count because as everyone knows - it's not a drug, it's a drink!) but there's loads of people willing to drop someone just cos they do drugs. So long as it doesn't endanger me in any way I couldn't give a f*** tbh. Despite my relatively anti-drug standing I dated a bird into pills, weed, coke, the lot for six months last year. Was interesting to say the least, in fairness she could see it didn't interest me and therefore never pushed me further than "want one?" ... "nar" .... "alright".
That said, I used to know people at sixth form and that who literally talked about nowt else - when they were last high, what it was, what they were doing, when they were next high and why I was boring for not being high - they're just as bad as the ones who go mental over someone smoking cannabis like. Boring t***s.
Post by: MW on Saturday 6 April 2013, 12:26:02 PM
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 13 April 2013, 09:50:58 AM
The sun is shining and I've woken up and decided to listen to Geogaddi. :( :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 13 April 2013, 10:17:51 AM
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Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 13 April 2013, 10:39:01 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 13 April 2013, 07:09:26 PM
:lol: You're a monster.
Had another 300mg of codeine. Feel like absolute bliss. It's almost as if I just walk due to the wind.
Post by: JS on Monday 29 April 2013, 12:24:53 AM
Might walk to kfc again and get 2 family meals :lol:
Post by: Steggy on Monday 29 April 2013, 04:36:53 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 29 April 2013, 04:46:53 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 29 April 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Monday 29 April 2013, 05:53:59 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Monday 29 April 2013, 07:35:19 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 29 April 2013, 07:50:05 PM
BOOOOOOOM!
Talk about a hit. :lol:
Post by: AfroP on Monday 29 April 2013, 07:58:34 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge. We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.
BOOOOOOOM!
Talk about a hit. :lol:
bag of speed wrapped up in a rizla and neck that
Post by: JS on Monday 29 April 2013, 08:19:37 PM
Post by: JS on Monday 29 April 2013, 08:21:17 PM
:smitten:
:frantic: :angel:
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 29 April 2013, 08:30:06 PM
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Post by: JS on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 03:53:15 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:01:34 PM
Reminds me of a random lad that used to pop up now and then in our social group, he was like a one man rave. We would all be down stairs chilling out and he would still be on the decks mixing away for hours, usually the same two tracks, practicing the same mix over and over, while MCing to himself.
One man rave!
We had a session at mine years ago him and another good pal came round about 2 am in the morning, one lad played a set of hard house, then this lad went on and to this day we are convinced he played the same set, record for f***ing record.
He also had a snake.
Post by: hakka on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:16:31 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge. We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.
BOOOOOOOM!
Talk about a hit. :lol:
Urrgghh... the taste of speed. Horrible stuff. Used to always drop it in rizla bombs, remember a few occasions where I couldn't swallow it and it just emptied from the rizla in my mouth. Makes me feel sick just thinking of it.
Funny stuff speed. Very energetic and postive, but the over-thinking and sketchyness it can lead to when taken too often or coming down isn't always fun. Also not being able to sleep for 2 nights plus in a row when your trying is gash!
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:23:55 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge. We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.
BOOOOOOOM!
Talk about a hit. :lol:
Urrgghh... the taste of speed. Horrible stuff. Used to always drop it in rizla bombs, remember a few occasions where I couldn't swallow it and it just emptied from the rizla in my mouth. Makes me feel sick just thinking of it.
Funny stuff speed. Very energetic and postive, but the over-thinking and sketchyness it can lead to when taken too often or coming down isn't always fun. Also not being able to sleep for 2 nights plus in a row when your trying is gash!
Nah, never liked the stuff. It served a purpose at the time.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:27:29 PM
Post by: hakka on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:31:45 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge. We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.
BOOOOOOOM!
Talk about a hit. :lol:
Urrgghh... the taste of speed. Horrible stuff. Used to always drop it in rizla bombs, remember a few occasions where I couldn't swallow it and it just emptied from the rizla in my mouth. Makes me feel sick just thinking of it.
Funny stuff speed. Very energetic and postive, but the over-thinking and sketchyness it can lead to when taken too often or coming down isn't always fun. Also not being able to sleep for 2 nights plus in a row when your trying is gash!
Nah, never liked the stuff. It served a purpose at the time.
I spent best part of 2003 to 3005 on it, pretty much every Friday/Saturday. Even hit a low point where a few days a week I was doing it and getting up and going work still - f*** knows how I got away with it. Eventually hit a point where I just wondered why the f*** I was doing it so much so stopped. Have done it a couple times since but it's a dirty drug if done a lot and as you say, served a purpose at a time.
Does make you dance your tits off all night like mdma can be a bit mongy and at times and you want to sit down but speed was always about being on the move.
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:53:35 PM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:55:36 PM
Post by: hakka on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:59:56 PM
:lol:
3005... f***ing good year that but enough was enough. Futurama was bang on with it's predictions, like.
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 11:04:23 PM
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 11:09:14 PM
2003-3005 is a canny time to be on speed like, bet you're glad you're off it tbh.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/n72oy.jpg)
"Right, I was on speed from 2003-3005, you would nee believe my adventures"
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 11:10:18 PM
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:05:57 AM
The outlawing of drugs such as cannabis, MDMA and LSD amounts to the “the worst case of scientific censorship since the Catholic Church banned the works of Copernicus and Galileo”, the former Government drugs advisor Professor David Nutt has claimed.
Professor Nutt, who was dismissed from the Home Office’s advisory council on drugs in 2009 after clashing with ministers, said that UN conventions on drugs in the 1960s and 1970s have delayed the development of “innovative treatments” for PTSD and depression by 30 years and also set back research into areas of neuroscience such as consciousness.
In a paper published today with two other scientists in the journal Nature Reviews Neuroscience, he said that drugs policy is being driven by “politics, not science”.
Professor Nutt left the Home Officer in 2009 after suggesting that taking MDMA ecstasy was no more dangerous than horse-riding and that alcohol and tobacco were more dangerous than many illegal drugs.
The possession of psychoactive drugs such cannabis, MDMA (ecstasy) and LSD for scientific purposes is stringently regulated in the UK and most other countries, in accordance with UN conventions that were agreed in response to the emergence of drug culture in the 1960s and 1970s.
Applying for a Government licence can be costly and time-consuming and many scientists are put off by a culture of “repression” surrounding drug science, Professor Nutt said.
“The laws scare off funders and most scientists are scared because they think if they break the law, they might get arrested,” he told The Independent. “I’m sure at some point someone’s going to arrest me. There is a sense of repression to the point that most people won’t do it.”
The paper, which is published to coincide with a conference on scientific research with psychedelics at Imperial College London, points to evidence that cannabis, MDMA and psychedelics such as LSD and psilocybin (the compound found in magic mushrooms) have unexplored medicinal benefits and argues that laws should be updated.
Small clinical studies of MDMA, which was originally used in the USA in the 1970s to improve communication in psychotherapy sessions, suggested that it could play a highly beneficial role in the treatment of PTSD patients. The paper’s authors said the drug could also help with “end of life anxiety” and couples therapy”.
Medical use of marijuana is already legal in 17 US states, and the drug has been shown to have benefits such as anxiety reduction and pain relief. However, Professor Nutt said that UK restrictions had blocked development of therapeutic applications for any of cannabis’ 16 active ingredients.
LSD, meanwhile, was widely researched in the 1950s and 1960s, with more than 1,000 papers investigating outcomes for more than 40,000 patients, with evidence suggesting that the drug might be an effective treatment for alcoholism, before bans on the drug around the world ended further research.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-worst-case-of-scientific-censorship-since-the-catholic-church-banned-the-works-of-galileo-scientists-call-for-drugs-to-be-legalised-to-allow-proper-study-of-their-properties-8654514.html
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:08:04 AM
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Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:38:54 AM
Was like Chris Morris was talking.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:40:13 AM
Miss High Times 2010 favourited one of my tweets the other day. Best moment of my life. :aww:
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 12:55:43 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 12:57:04 PM
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 09:07:06 PM
It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:09:12 PM
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:13:05 PM
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:18:07 PM
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:20:04 PM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:23:07 PM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.
It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Only been off it 12 days what you expect.
Post by: AfroP on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:01:17 PM
its also really annoying that i cant seem to get any weed in newcastle.
walk past the bong shop nearly everyday, and it make me want to buy a bong and some weed and get high as fook
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:33:50 PM
Tied up somewhere in some Glaswegan woman's basement.
:lol: trippin' his tits off.
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 13 June 2013, 12:15:49 AM
You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Post by: Weezertron on Thursday 13 June 2013, 12:29:59 AM
You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
And he packed it in at the grand old age of 13 :lol:
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:21:42 PM
:dontknow: What age do most people start? 9-12 or so you would think. I always played football (or basketball if I was lucky) with the older boys and they would smoke afterwards. Those were great times in my life, man. :lol: I only stopped because both basketball and a job I had required drug urine tests.You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
And he packed it in at the grand old age of 13 :lol:
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:23:07 PM
:dontknow: What age do most people start? 9-12 or so you would think. I always played football (or basketball if I was lucky) with the older boys and they would smoke afterwards. Those were great times in my life, man. :lol: I only stopped because both basketball and a job I had required drug urine tests.You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
And he packed it in at the grand old age of 13 :lol:
:lol: No you wouldn't, you zany b******.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:25:38 PM
Post by: wormy on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:27:04 PM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:28:59 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:31:04 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:32:26 PM
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:33:33 PM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:35:22 PM
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:36:06 PM
One can only assume they're a bit more lax in Nigeria. 9 year olds smoking weed here would cause mass outrage.We didn't go around telling everyone :lol: It was Africa for goodness sake, our parents would have literally beaten the hell out of us. Half of the people in this thread are talking about ketamine and E pill. I'm amazed this shocks people.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:37:24 PM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us
That explains a lot.
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:40:07 PM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us
That explains a lot.
:lol:
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:41:12 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis. :sweetjesus:
I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:43:05 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis. :sweetjesus:
I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.
Not sure, the quality is far superior in amsterdam. Though I packed in weed when i was 16 so we are talking 11 years ago I have no idea the various strengths now. The legalisation of Ecstasy would be far greater jump in quality imo and safety
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:48:31 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis. :sweetjesus:
I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.
Surely it would be better. No reliance on some shady dealer, proper weights, a lot cheaper and gurantee'd quality because it's all above board and your hand isnt forced so to speak. The stuff I had in Amsterdam was noticeably better than anything here, and I'm not so much of a connoisseur.
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:50:42 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis. :sweetjesus:
I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.
Surely it would be better. No reliance on some shady dealer, proper weights, a lot cheaper and gurantee'd quality because it's all above board and your hand isnt forced so to speak. The stuff I had in Amsterdam was noticeably better than anything here, and I'm not so much of a connoisseur.
Never done it in Amsterdam so I couldn't use that as a yardstick, personally - but if it was globally legalised I don't think the quality would be better on the whole. It would be mass-produced by 'the corporation' out to exploit the new wave of annoying first-time stoners.
The shady dealer thing is easy as f***, in my experience. Couldn't be f***ed queueing to buy weed.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:52:42 PM
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Post by: Tooj on Thursday 13 June 2013, 05:52:31 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 June 2013, 05:59:27 PM
Post by: Shak on Thursday 13 June 2013, 06:00:43 PM
My local friend took me for a midnight drive through some shifty areas while completely baked though, was class. People standing on corners openly selling drugs, brilliant.
Post by: McCormick on Thursday 13 June 2013, 06:27:35 PM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 14 June 2013, 03:40:40 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 14 June 2013, 10:59:41 AM
I genuinely can't sleep without having a j about half an hour before bed, been like this for about 6 years. Anyone else experience this?
To a degree. I'm usually always on something that helps me to sleep. Insomnia is not to be f***ed about with and I've not got the stamina for all-nighters.
Post by: Stu on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:01:18 AM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us
That explains a lot.
:lol:
Post by: Disco on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:05:29 AM
:lol: I started at 18. Geriatric compared to Baba.
You never smoked at school?
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:06:29 AM
'would nee' :lol:
Oi, keep me out of this.
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:40:47 AM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us
That explains a lot.
:lol:
AWWWWWWWW, you found another of my posts to comment on.
Post by: Stu on Friday 14 June 2013, 12:15:51 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 14 June 2013, 12:22:34 PM
A Stu vs SanToon black hole of craic.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 14 June 2013, 12:23:45 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 14 June 2013, 03:06:34 PM
:anguish:
A Stu vs SanToon black hole of craic.
I'm rising above it. I'm better than that.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 14 June 2013, 03:08:19 PM
:lol: I started at 18. Geriatric compared to Baba.
You never smoked at school?
Had the odd Bucket, but here and there. Maybe 3/4 in total. I was a charva sympathiser, so stopped short of full blown.
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 16 June 2013, 09:40:25 AM
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Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 16 June 2013, 10:14:07 AM
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 28 June 2013, 04:20:13 AM
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 28 June 2013, 08:33:00 AM
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:06:02 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:12:07 PM
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:25:15 PM
The bigger ones look very odd, and they're silly expensive for smoking kit. I've tried one of the pen ones before, which was pretty nice, but even that cost over a hundred quid.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:29:59 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:33:40 PM
I wouldn't recommend getting anything cheap, you'll just waste the precious stuff in a poor quality vape. They're good, but nothing beats rolling up and passing one about, unfortunately.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:36:14 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:37:19 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:38:28 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:38:53 PM
PRISMMMMMM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:40:09 PM
Post by: henke on Friday 28 June 2013, 06:59:31 PM
Anyhoo, i wouldn't mind a wee dabble again. Just for old times sake. Buuuuut does anyone know if you can still buy proper pills? Ie similar to what they used to be like in terms of mgs mdma. I know that there's that much synthetic stuff coming from the far east now i'm dubious i'd be buying what i was actually looking for.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 07:15:44 PM
Post by: henke on Friday 28 June 2013, 07:22:30 PM
Post by: Disco on Friday 28 June 2013, 08:26:25 PM
Half a g of MDMA will see you right though, comedowns aren't as bad as cowies but still fairly abysmal. 2 days after was always my low point.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 10 July 2013, 08:23:21 PM
It's time! :frantic:
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 25 July 2013, 08:07:08 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 25 July 2013, 08:21:24 PM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 26 July 2013, 10:04:37 AM
Buying a bag of weed tomorrow. Will be my first hit in quite a while. Can't stand tobacco anymore so it looks like an apple pipe for me. :lol:
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Post by: JS on Friday 26 July 2013, 02:26:33 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 July 2013, 02:29:17 PM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:12:53 PM
Post by: Neil on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:14:00 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:17:07 PM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:18:12 PM
You manky scrote. :lol:
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Post by: AfroP on Saturday 27 July 2013, 01:53:43 PM
Post by: Slim on Saturday 27 July 2013, 01:57:52 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Saturday 27 July 2013, 02:25:39 PM
Choooo Choooo magic mushroom train will be calling soon
:lol: f*** that train, man.
Post by: JS on Sunday 28 July 2013, 02:04:28 PM
Post by: colinmk on Sunday 28 July 2013, 02:14:05 PM
Post by: SGSC on Sunday 28 July 2013, 03:00:21 PM
Ketamine is some crazy s***. Told myself i'd never do it again but after being 10 beers deep all sense went out the window.
Post by: JS on Sunday 28 July 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Would love a wee smoke of some quality hash right now, not the UK s**** but the suff you get from the coffee shops. Leeeeeegalize it ya c***s.
I hear ya. In all honesty I just can't be arsed with drink much anymore, it's expensive and can turn people into pure dickheads. Give me some brownies, stoner movies and some good mates anyday over a s*** session in The Gate on a Saturday night
Post by: AfroP on Sunday 28 July 2013, 04:32:11 PM
I hear ya. In all honesty I just can't be arsed with drink much anymore, it's expensive and can turn people into pure dickheads. Give me some brownies, stoner movies and some good mates anyday over a s*** session in The Gate on a Saturday night
this!
Post by: Slim on Sunday 28 July 2013, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: angrypirate71 on Sunday 28 July 2013, 11:12:33 PM
TBH if I some weed now just want go someplace on my own or feel nervousCharacteristics of a sativa dominant strain tbh, try and avoid "haze" types if you've got a bit of choice.
Indica leaning weed may suit you better. Sativa strains tend to get you high - more uppy and hyper, whereas Indicas provide more of a heavy stoned feeling. Of course, all of this info is useless if your supplier doesn't know what he's got either, which is common.
Post by: thomas on Sunday 28 July 2013, 11:13:30 PM
Choooo Choooo magic mushroom train will be calling soon:thup:
Post by: alexthegreat on Monday 5 August 2013, 12:08:45 AM
Uruguay draft marijuana law:
State would control the production, distribution, commerce and consumption of marijuana
Consumers have to be over 18 and registered
Marijuana to be sold at licensed pharmacies
Sales are limited to 40g (1.4oz) per month
Registered users can grow up to six plants at home
The Uruguayan government argues that by bringing the sale of cannabis under state control, it will remove profits from drug dealers and divert users from harder drugs.
The bill was approved by 50 of the 96 MPs present in the House of Representatives following a fierce 13-hour debate in the capital, Montevideo.
The state would assume "the control and regulation of the importation, exportation, plantation, cultivation, the harvest, the production, the acquisition, the storage, the commercialisation and the distribution of cannabis and its by-products".
Buyers would have to be registered on a database and be over the age of 18. They would be able to buy up to 40g (1.4oz) per month in specially licensed pharmacies or grow up to six plants at home.
President Jose Mujica says he has never tried marijuana but believes it should be legalised.
They clearly have a far better leader than any of the complete w*****s politics in this country produces:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20243493
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Jose Mujica: The world's 'poorest' president
It's a common grumble that politicians' lifestyles are far removed from those of their electorate. Not so in Uruguay. Meet the president - who lives on a ramshackle farm and gives away most of his pay.
Laundry is strung outside the house. The water comes from a well in a yard, overgrown with weeds. Only two police officers and Manuela, a three-legged dog, keep watch outside.
This is the residence of the president of Uruguay, Jose Mujica, whose lifestyle clearly differs sharply from that of most other world leaders.
President Mujica has shunned the luxurious house that the Uruguayan state provides for its leaders and opted to stay at his wife's farmhouse, off a dirt road outside the capital, Montevideo.
The president and his wife work the land themselves, growing flowers.
This austere lifestyle - and the fact that Mujica donates about 90% of his monthly salary, equivalent to $12,000 (£7,500), to charity - has led him to be labelled the poorest president in the world.
"I may appear to be an eccentric old man... But this is a free choice."
"I've lived like this most of my life," he says, sitting on an old chair in his garden, using a cushion favoured by Manuela the dog.
"I can live well with what I have."
His charitable donations - which benefit poor people and small entrepreneurs - mean his salary is roughly in line with the average Uruguayan income of $775 (£485) a month.
President Mujica's VW Beetle All the president's wealth - a 1987 VW Beetle
In 2010, his annual personal wealth declaration - mandatory for officials in Uruguay - was $1,800 (£1,100), the value of his 1987 Volkswagen Beetle
Post by: JS on Thursday 16 January 2014, 07:46:14 PM
I'm got serious couch lock now like. Nothing like a nice pipe to see off a long day. Buckled like :aww: :laugh:
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 10:24:04 AM
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Post by: Slim on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:00:33 PM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?
If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:06:02 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:10:44 PM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?
If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
Haha. She didn't know I was a naughty f***er before we got together, no. It's not something I broadcast. Especially not on a first or second date.
Not saying I'll never get tremendous'd again, that would be highly unlikely, but I appreciate the motivation to chill out for now.
I'm quite proud of myself to tell the truth. Longest without drugs or cigarettes in years.
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:13:35 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:16:31 PM
Worra mug.
Fair comment m8.
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:25:20 PM
Post by: Rocker on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:28:28 PM
Worra mug.
Fair comment m8.
Looks like Dean Ambrose in your sig. The guy on the left. Ringer.
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:28:35 PM
I'll probably abstain until then, and then have some sort of heart attack in the dance tent off half a pill.
Post by: triggs on Friday 17 January 2014, 03:32:22 PM
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugsHaven't had any drugs in ages now.
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?
If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
Post by: Slim on Friday 17 January 2014, 04:50:11 PM
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugsHaven't had any drugs in ages now.
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?
If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
I just hate people who think nothing about going out getting p*ssed but then grief drugs.
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 05:02:54 PM
Post by: Steggy on Friday 17 January 2014, 05:07:39 PM
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:07:36 AM
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugsHaven't had any drugs in ages now.
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?
If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
He seems to take a hell of a lot of drugs, you can see why he might be a bit defensive about it :D
Post by: MKSC on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:58:38 AM
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugsHaven't had any drugs in ages now.
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?
If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
He seems to take a hell of a lot of drugs, you can see why he might be a bit defensive about it :D
If you're anti-drugs on here you're likely to get abuse off the 'mad crazy raving' people. I stay out of the debate now as my 'drugs are bad' stance is not welcome.
Post by: KDT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 12:09:07 PM
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugsHaven't had any drugs in ages now.
My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!
Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.
Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?
If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
He seems to take a hell of a lot of drugs, you can see why he might be a bit defensive about it :D
If you're anti-drugs on here you're likely to get abuse off the 'mad crazy raving' people. I stay out of the debate now as my 'drugs are bad' stance is not welcome.
Shut your noise.
Post by: Slim on Saturday 18 January 2014, 12:31:00 PM
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 09:57:26 PM
All for weed really, haven't really noticed much of a weed culture going on. Don't have it extremely regularly, have it socially. Nice treat too. (boring milner! hurhurhur). It's nice either way. Causes some harm like any drug. Harms are vastly overplayed by the mass media. And so on with various Bill Hicks anecdotes I could go on about.
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:08:18 PM
Couldn't help but notice the Pet Hates thread getting overrun by drugs talk, ideal chance to bring up this thread.
All for weed really, haven't really noticed much of a weed culture going on. Don't have it extremely regularly, have it socially. Nice treat too. (boring milner! hurhurhur). It's nice either way. Causes some harm like any drug. Harms are vastly overplayed by the mass media. And so on with various Bill Hicks anecdotes I could go on about.
Neil confirmed Wacky Backy addict. Next step is the horse my friend? Do you want to saddle up? Or keep on walking?
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:09:11 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:12:11 PM
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:25:48 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:29:09 PM
yeah, lsd is one thing I wish I'd done more of. Just don't have 10 hours to kill anymore. :(
Yeah it's a commitment tbh. Good laugh though. Had some ridiculous times on it
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:29:45 PM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:29:57 PM
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:32:17 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
Stay as you are, drugs r 4 mugs m8.
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:34:32 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:35:52 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.
Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:36:22 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.
Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:
:lol: scares me that your mind went straight there.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:39:29 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.
Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:
:lol: scares me that your mind went straight there.
:lol: Naturally came to me since I was reading some article about Christ Bearer (rapper) cutting his dick off and jumping out the third floor or something the other day while on PCP.
Post by: MW on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:40:37 PM
Alcohol is far worse than drugs personally. Get myself into way too many problems drinking , that never really happens with night out drugs (which are taken every couple months tops)
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:42:59 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.
Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:
:lol: scares me that your mind went straight there.
:lol: Naturally came to me since I was reading some article about Christ Bearer (rapper) cutting his dick off and jumping out the third floor or something the other day while on PCP.
Yeah that PCP stuff sounds nuts. Never saw anyone with it over here. Bit like Meth, met one person here with it. So rare. DMT was the maddest thing I've ever seen anyone on I reckon
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:43:52 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
If your happy thats fine.
But when people say I don't care about drugs but I drink really confuses me.
Alcohol and smoking are far more risky than MDMA or magic mushrooms.
"If you can't have fun without them"
Its not that people can't have fun without them its the fact it makes it 10000x better.
You could go out and not drink but still have fun but you would agree it more fun drinking.
It always seems to be the people that have never tried the drug that say how bad they are or pointless.
It was developed and still used to treat people that are depressed or case to get terminally ill people to talk to their family and feel better.
Less chance of me ever getting in a fight with someone on MDMA than beer.
Why don't you try some MDMA just a bit and and then tell me if its pointless?
If you feel the same I would respect that.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:48:27 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:49:10 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:51:01 PM
Neck a pill for your first gan and you'll be spot on, bomb some MDMA and you'll probably never want to look at drugs again.
Always preferred pills me. Dat taste of MDMA man :anguish:
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:55:42 PM
Wow, you really convinced me there son. I'll got get myself a pill and come back to you. :lol: Nah for reals, I don't see the point and probably never will try anything. Way I was raised, I don't disrespect anyone who does them as long as they don't abuse it same goes for alcohol. Everyone has their ways with stuff, mine definitely won't be pills or snorting s*** up through my deviated septum :lol:
Just makes me sad when I hear people missing out on such amazing things becasue they have been brain washed that they are so wrong.
Drugs really open your mind and help you learn so much about yourself its unreal.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:05:53 PM
It's horrible gear imo, only bombed it a couple of times but I've seen people sniff it thinking they're sneaking a line of coke and then sit there in tears as they've just half blown their nose off.Neck a pill for your first gan and you'll be spot on, bomb some MDMA and you'll probably never want to look at drugs again.
Always preferred pills me. Dat taste of MDMA man :anguish:
Not a fan of tripping or anything like, which is what I suppose people who haven't had any think when they hear drugs, just a bit of coke or a joint now and then depending on what I'm doing. Cannot really see the difference from drinking or smoking tbh.
Post by: SiLvOR on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:06:44 PM
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:09:13 PM
I wana try coke. I sound like a 13 year old girl, but I just do :lol:
Come to the Gateshead match and Santoon will sort ya pet.
I will be close to make sure you are safe
Post by: SiLvOR on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:15:44 PM
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:23:08 PM
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:24:06 PM
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:25:33 PM
http://www.trufflemagic.com/magic-truffles-webshop/magic-truffle-bulk-deals/
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:27:43 PM
best i have ever used
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:31:00 PM
http://mush-e-mart.com/
best i have ever used
Got them fine and that?
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Neck a pill for your first gan and you'll be spot on, bomb some MDMA and you'll probably never want to look at drugs again.
:lol: Naaah, man. Get Flip to gum some madman and he'd be aaal awa the shop. He'd be hooked.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:07:13 AM
http://mush-e-mart.com/
best i have ever used
Got them fine and that?
:lol: Do we trust slim with this?
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:08:10 AM
http://mush-e-mart.com/
best i have ever used
Got them fine and that?
:lol: Do we trust slim with this?
He's actually pretty organised IRL
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:08:55 AM
Drugs online would be so bad.
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:09:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/e3fHore.jpg)
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:11:53 AM
If you wanna chill out for a few hours feeling great just eat a load of diazys or clonazepam, or my personal favourite, etizolam.
Post by: thomas on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:12:37 AM
Looks legit :mou:I'm gonna do it. Will report back immediately or in 5-10 years, depending on the breaks.
(http://i.imgur.com/e3fHore.jpg)
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:15:21 AM
Weed's s***.
If you wanna chill out for a few hours feeling great just eat a load of diazys or clonazepam, or my personal favourite, etizolam.
Prescription drug innit.
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:19:15 AM
Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips. Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:21:15 AM
I buy etizolam online, cheap aswell. Better than paying £1 a pill off some knacker for a diazy.
Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips. Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.
Pm a brother a link? Been looking for a decent site like
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:23:27 AM
I buy etizolam online, cheap aswell. Better than paying £1 a pill off some knacker for a diazy.
Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips. Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.
Pm a brother a link? Been looking for a decent site like
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:23:56 AM
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:25:20 AM
Have a feeling when I make it for a night out in Newcastle I'll be meeting up with SanToon. :lol:
:thup: do it man, me and slim have been carrying the torch for NO nights recently
Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:27:06 AM
I buy etizolam online, cheap aswell. Better than paying £1 a pill off some knacker for a diazy.
Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips. Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.
Pm a brother a link? Been looking for a decent site like
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:27:59 AM
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:29:10 AM
Have a feeling when I make it for a night out in Newcastle I'll be meeting up with SanToon. :lol:
:thup: do it man, me and slim have been carrying the torch for NO nights recently
Me and Decky have been talking about it for the summer. Would imagine it'll be around August time as we've so many gigs in July. Hopefully we get you near the start of the season and go for a double whammy. I was for coming over to go to Shark Bar for Mania and then nobody from the wrestling thread bothered. :lol: Ma was booking the flights for my birthday and all. Rage.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:29:54 AM
Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:30:50 AM
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:32:07 AM
Have a feeling when I make it for a night out in Newcastle I'll be meeting up with SanToon. :lol:
:thup: do it man, me and slim have been carrying the torch for NO nights recently
Me and Decky have been talking about it for the summer. Would imagine it'll be around August time as we've so many gigs in July. Hopefully we get you near the start of the season and go for a double whammy. I was for coming over to go to Shark Bar for Mania and then nobody from the wrestling thread bothered. :lol: Ma was booking the flights for my birthday and all. Rage.
:lol: yeah man do it, try get a decent amount of people out will be a laugh. Class city to go out in.
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:32:26 AM
I feel like Dave is going to come in here in a minute and we're in for it.
:lol: same. Paranoia kicking in
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:34:30 AM
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:35:31 AM
I'd go for 50.
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:37:56 AM
2 of them gives you a good, chilled feeling for a good few hours. They are the most euphoric of all benzos imo and kick in fast.
I'd go for 50.
They any good for like sleeping, bang one for a decent nights sleep or whatever? Used to have Diaz before sleep sometimes was mint
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:38:59 AM
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:39:11 AM
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:41:04 AM
The best, lights out after 10 minutes.
:thup: sounds class.
Post by: JS on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:54:34 AM
Weed's s***.
If you wanna chill out for a few hours feeling great just eat a load of diazys or clonazepam, or my personal favourite, etizolam.
Prescription drug innit.
Together is great pain relief man. Don't get the weed hate myself like
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Post by: Flip on Thursday 24 April 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Wow, you really convinced me there son. I'll got get myself a pill and come back to you. :lol: Nah for reals, I don't see the point and probably never will try anything. Way I was raised, I don't disrespect anyone who does them as long as they don't abuse it same goes for alcohol. Everyone has their ways with stuff, mine definitely won't be pills or snorting s*** up through my deviated septum :lol:
Just makes me sad when I hear people missing out on such amazing things becasue they have been brain washed that they are so wrong.
Drugs really open your mind and help you learn so much about yourself its unreal.
That how you realized the most intimate things about you? Just like Santoon and his friends? Definitely staying off drugs if that's the case :p
Post by: odog on Thursday 24 April 2014, 10:08:30 AM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:42:25 PM
Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 April 2014, 01:44:02 PM
Biggest problem with drugs are the quality. Needs to be legal so quality is controlled.
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:29:20 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:32:13 PM
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:33:21 PM
Any legals that are good from a sex point of view? It could be increased horniness, firmer erection, more load. (:yao:), or whatever.
:lol: I doubt it. Illegally coke is unreal for it but it can be difficult to get a root sometimes. If you get the balance right though, hallelujah.
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:45:00 PM
Sniff loads of wizz
Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-GAL!
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:55:33 PM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 24 April 2014, 03:04:32 PM
Any legals that are good from a sex point of view? It could be increased horniness, firmer erection, more load. (:yao:), or whatever.
:lol: I doubt it. Illegally coke is unreal for it but it can be difficult to get a root sometimes. If you get the balance right though, hallelujah.
I struggle to stand to attention (without any aid) on any sort of gear if im honest like. Probably a psychological thing more than owt else. Good job there is stuff readily available to combat such things.
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 April 2014, 03:04:47 PM
It is legal, I'll sell you some. £50 a gram.
You're such a w*****. :yao:
( Like me. )
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 24 April 2014, 07:09:17 PM
The best, lights out after 10 minutes.
So if I took a couple at work I would be found fast asleep at my desk shortly after? :lol:
Post by: ED209 on Thursday 24 April 2014, 07:51:27 PM
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Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 April 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 09:05:11 PM
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 3 May 2014, 01:54:24 AM
Post by: Neil on Saturday 3 May 2014, 02:34:14 AM
Post by: thomas on Saturday 3 May 2014, 02:48:02 AM
i hope my load enhancing trick has helped a few souls over the years.What's the best sexual drug?Legal cocktail: L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum. 1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount. Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others.
No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.
If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.
Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though. Like a few days before you notice anything major.
Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 3 May 2014, 10:26:52 AM
.... is there a pill that contains all three ingredients that you've listed? Or do I need to take them separately?
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 3 May 2014, 10:55:03 AM
yes
:thup:
Got a ton of those last night and 18mg of Diazepam. :lol:
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 3 May 2014, 10:58:19 AM
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 3 May 2014, 11:02:14 AM
Got a load of that stuff Messi was on about. Lost about 3 days this week :lol:
Aye I've that too. :lol: Going to lose a month shortly I feel.
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 3 May 2014, 11:10:16 AM
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 3 May 2014, 11:15:08 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.
Post by: Jimburst on Saturday 3 May 2014, 09:55:29 PM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.
:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 10:24:53 AM
I asked the missus where the pot of chilli sauce came from, apparently she went to town for a few hours the other day, brought me food back which I apparently ate. Don't remember any of this :lol:
Took one later on Saturday and have lost loads of my stuff! :lol: These things aren't right or I have had a bad batch! Complete memory loss and random stuff happening.
Post by: davy_fulla on Monday 5 May 2014, 10:57:30 AM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.
agree. whenever i think back to the funniest times of my life there's always a couple of cowies involved. met a mate i'd never seen in years in foundation one night. went back to his for an after party. met some other lads there and they're now my closest friends and we're godparents to each others kids. the 2000s was a mad decade for me. a blur of stupidity and stories that you just couldn't make up. ah the magic of mdma!!!!
Post by: Tooj on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:08:44 AM
Aye, now they only target pain. :(Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.
:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:10:42 AM
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:16:41 AM
My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh
In one session? :lol:
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:21:04 AM
My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh
In one session? :lol:
Yeah man, I was speaking to him at about 11am and he'd done 3 and snorted another. I was mega para that he'd die or whatever so was trying to contact him all day. Didn't hear from till about 24 hours later. Broken latop, crate of beer down, and only 1 pack left of the 100 he'd ordered. They guy is honestly superhuman.
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:23:47 AM
My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh
In one session? :lol:
Yeah man, I was speaking to him at about 11am and he'd done 3 and snorted another. I was mega para that he'd die or whatever so was trying to contact him all day. Didn't hear from till about 24 hours later. Broken latop, crate of beer down, and only 1 pack left of the 100 he'd ordered. They guy is honestly superhuman.
Fair play. I don't have the minerals/psychological make up to deal with s*** like that. One makes me do weird s***, two really weird s*** (probably). 40!? I'd be spending a lot of time in prison/a mental health facility.
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:25:24 AM
My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh
In one session? :lol:
Yeah man, I was speaking to him at about 11am and he'd done 3 and snorted another. I was mega para that he'd die or whatever so was trying to contact him all day. Didn't hear from till about 24 hours later. Broken latop, crate of beer down, and only 1 pack left of the 100 he'd ordered. They guy is honestly superhuman.
Fair play. I don't have the minerals/psychological make up to deal with s*** like that. One makes me do weird s***, two really weird s*** (probably). 40!? I'd be spending a lot of time in prison/a mental health facility.
I had a couple yesterday and felt okay but I've smashed Vallys in the past tbh. Yeah I don't have the capacity these days. I could feel myself wanting more on them though but manages to curtail myself.
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:40:38 AM
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:44:23 AM
I've done a lot of vallium at times and been relatively okay, I really think I got a dodgy batch of this stuff :lol:
:lol: how have you found them? I sort of feel like valium slightly stronger/quicker acting. Defo income memory about as well
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 12:40:11 PM
I've done a lot of vallium at times and been relatively okay, I really think I got a dodgy batch of this stuff :lol:
:lol: how have you found them? I sort of feel like valium slightly stronger/quicker acting. Defo income memory about as well
I find this stuff a lot quicker acting, I have fell asleep then apparently done a lot of stuff I don't realise I have done.
Considering binning them all tbh, concerned I might to do something I can't take back :lol:
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Monday 5 May 2014, 01:33:03 PM
Remember standing in my mates living room in nothing but my keks while his mum was sat in there and my mate was asleep.
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 10 May 2014, 11:57:26 AM
Went to run a bath but noticed the bath mat was wet, had to do some investigation and it turns out at some point between posting on here and going to sleep I had a bath but I don't remember it at all! :lol:
Some serious memory loss going on tbh! :lol:
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:20:57 PM
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:26:55 PM
I really like the feeling it gives me at the time but I am just waiting for that moment when I wake up and there are 4 dead people also in the room :lol:
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:34:15 PM
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:38:41 PM
Oh the etizolam. :lol:
Yeah :lol:
Most drugs have always had some weird s*** going on in my head so these reactions are probably different to the majority. I am just prone to doing some weird s*** whenever the chemical balance of my brain is slightly adjusted :lol:
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 11 May 2014, 08:22:53 PM
Had one of these to get myself asleep last night, woke up, have been posting on here then woke up when my phone was ringing about 11.35am.
Went to run a bath but noticed the bath mat was wet, had to do some investigation and it turns out at some point between posting on here and going to sleep I had a bath but I don't remember it at all! :lol:
Some serious memory loss going on tbh! :lol:
All of this after one? What the hell. :lol:
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:01:23 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:11:28 PM
Post by: TheHoob on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:15:31 PM
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:18:13 PM
If I completely forgot I had a bath after one I'd still be curled up, crying and freaking out.
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:21:19 PM
Post by: JS on Sunday 11 May 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 16 May 2014, 12:54:25 PM
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 16 May 2014, 04:48:20 PM
Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 16 May 2014, 05:40:49 PM
Post by: Cajun on Friday 16 May 2014, 09:40:36 PM
Intrigued about this Etizolam, like.
Don't take my experiences as anything to go by, I was a semi-regular drug user about 12-13 years ago and had a good night off half a pill once.
I think I just lucked out with how easy it is for something to have an effect on me :lol:
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 16 May 2014, 09:42:56 PM
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Post by: BrettNUFC on Saturday 17 May 2014, 01:30:37 AM
The memory loss would be too bad in public like. I'd be convinced I'd had a w*** or something. Be horrible
No wonder you think you're good at snooker if you have memory loss on these drugs and forget how s*** you actually are :lol:
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Saturday 17 May 2014, 05:20:25 AM
and get me to sleep. :lol:
I'd probably recommend you get 2mg diclazepam. The effects are less subtle but last a lot longer. No intensity.
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 17 May 2014, 07:13:24 AM
Can't believe yous get such a dig off them, they chill me oot
and get me to sleep. :lol:
I'd probably recommend you get 2mg diclazepam. The effects are less subtle but last a lot longer. No intensity.
Will have a bit of a shopping spree on payday, try ALL the drugs!
Had a couple of these last night, no mental stuff but slept like a baby which is a miracle for me really.
Good recommendation all in all, even with the weird stuff :thup:
Post by: Ameritoon on Saturday 17 May 2014, 07:20:27 AM
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 17 May 2014, 09:29:21 AM
The memory loss would be too bad in public like. I'd be convinced I'd had a w*** or something. Be horrible
No wonder you think you're good at snooker if you have memory loss on these drugs and forget how s*** you actually are :lol:
:lol: rattled. It's a shame you can't appreciate the tactical side of the game. 2 sessions down and I'm already looking the better player
Post by: BrettNUFC on Saturday 17 May 2014, 01:43:26 PM
The memory loss would be too bad in public like. I'd be convinced I'd had a w*** or something. Be horrible
No wonder you think you're good at snooker if you have memory loss on these drugs and forget how s*** you actually are :lol:
:lol: rattled. It's a shame you can't appreciate the tactical side of the game. 2 sessions down and I'm already looking the better player
:spit:
Post by: Rocker on Saturday 17 May 2014, 07:32:11 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 17 May 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.
:lol:
Post by: triggs on Sunday 18 May 2014, 12:38:00 AM
Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.Saying alcohol is a drink is like saying flour is a food
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 18 May 2014, 02:03:16 AM
Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.
:lol: good lad
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 18 May 2014, 09:50:07 AM
Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.Saying alcohol is a drink is like saying flour is a food
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Post by: henke on Friday 23 May 2014, 05:21:53 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.
:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?
These are £30 for 100 x 100mg caps in Mexico, and you can buy them over the counter. Apart from brilliant pain relief you get a nice warm opiate hug off them so I brought a load back.
Post by: Froggy on Friday 23 May 2014, 08:20:14 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.
:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?
These are £30 for 100 x 100mg caps in Mexico, and you can buy them over the counter. Apart from brilliant pain relief you get a nice warm opiate hug off them so I brought a load back.
Last time I had them I took 16 over the space of a couple of hours. Nice high but the nausea afterwards was awful. I could barely move without being sick. It went away quick enough mind.
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Friday 23 May 2014, 07:38:10 PM
Never tried molly so looking forward to testing. The garys are a tenner a pop, bit pricey.
Post by: Slim on Friday 23 May 2014, 09:00:55 PM
Explains the way Neesy looks at me
Post by: Froggy on Friday 23 May 2014, 09:20:56 PM
Sweet, my source has got a load if dutch pills and dutch mdma in.
Never tried molly so looking forward to testing. The garys are a tenner a pop, bit pricey.
MDMA is so f***ing good. :lol:
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 23 May 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Sweet, my source has got a load if dutch pills and dutch mdma in.
Never tried molly so looking forward to testing. The garys are a tenner a pop, bit pricey.
Had a Dutch pill must have been at least 14 years ago. Bermuda Triangle think it was called. Was insane. In a good way
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Friday 23 May 2014, 11:26:44 PM
Last pills I had from Holland were nintendos. Blew the chin clean off me.
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 24 May 2014, 09:35:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJK5YpMLZY
Explains the way Neesy looks at me
Blasted.
:lol: :lol:
Last time I tripped was 1999 before the FA cup Semi Final with Spurs....Went to Morpeth first where my pal was DJing, had some drinks and I think I had a bad pint and felt a bit sick/off. Went back to or other pals flat and they had some trips. I really didnt fancy one at all but was talked into necking a half...Felt f***ing sick the rest of the night and this lass kept leaning across me and leaning on me. Really annoying. With no real effects happening from the acid.
Got to 8 am in the morning and I got a lift home still feeling f***ing sick, got in the house sat down on the bog, had a s*** and started tripping my face off. Man what a time for it to kick in :lol: :lol:
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 24 May 2014, 11:24:14 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: wacko on Saturday 24 May 2014, 11:56:06 AM
Got to 8 am in the morning and I got a lift home still feeling f***ing sick, got in the house sat down on the bog, had a s*** and started tripping my face off. Man what a time for it to kick in :lol: :lol:
Had to s*** a few times on shrooms. Very strange experience. Would recommend :thup:
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Saturday 24 May 2014, 12:13:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJK5YpMLZY
Explains the way Neesy looks at me
:lol: :lol:
Love that.
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 26 May 2014, 12:13:15 PM
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 31 May 2014, 06:03:08 AM
Looks like I signed off here last night around 9:45 and can't remember anything since. Have loads of missed calls and texts from my lass.
Worst thing is I didn't take any yesterday.
Post by: Neil on Saturday 31 May 2014, 05:34:09 PM
Post by: Troll on Saturday 31 May 2014, 05:50:53 PM
Post by: Open_C on Saturday 31 May 2014, 05:51:57 PM
Leads to watching the news through your fingers hoping that it wasn't you, presumably :undecided:
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 31 May 2014, 08:04:01 PM
No offence mate but what the hell's up with you? Seemingly every post I see from you now is about you necking a fuckload of drugs. :lol: Each to their own and all that, hope you're alright like.
:thup:
Agree with this like, you need to be careful Cajun. Are they drugs designed to calm you down? I'm hardly one to preach on this subject like but these things can get on top of you before you've even realised if you don't watch what you're doing.
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 31 May 2014, 08:58:15 PM
I like how half his posts are "jokey psychopath", and the others are about memory loss. A dangerous combination.
Blacked out today, no-one found dead.
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:02:13 PM
Cajun:
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Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:04:05 PM
You need to see the full version as there are far more people off their tits, back in the days when lil ones cost £20 and f***ed you up all night long as they were strong MDMA, not like today where it could be bubble or all sorts of s***/legal high in them.
The tall chap with the two fingers giving it f*** is :lol:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHWTM8ey9g
Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:04:42 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:16:53 PM
Ha, that video above is from '86 I think, but it's Doncater Warehoue. One of the DJ's playing in the video is a very young M-Zone who I know quite well and have DJ'd with him lots of times in various events in South West of England.
You need to see the full version as there are far more people off their tits, back in the days when lil ones cost £20 and f***ed you up all night long as they were strong MDMA, not like today where it could be bubble or all sorts of s***/legal high in them.
The tall chap with the two fingers giving it f*** is :lol:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHWTM8ey9g
You know M-Zone? Quality. I was massively into hardcore from like 2000 onwards like still follow it a bit and wont ever lose the love of it. But Mark EG/M -xone were nearly always on the raves I went to tbh
Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:37:58 PM
Used to be in to Hardcore from around early to mid 90's, but from 2001 got hooked on what Mark EG and M-Zone were playing and left Hardcore behind.
https://soundcloud.com/djhakka-1
Here's all my mixes posted online, mostly home/studio mixes but also live ones in there. Nothing Hardcore but if I like Mark EG and M-Zone stuff you will find plenty they used to caine.
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:44:17 PM
Yeah I've been a DJ for 13 years now and done a lot of good events when it was at it's peak, so of over the course of the years met M-Zone and Mark EG quite a bit, both lovely people who really care about music scene. I play mostly Hard Trance and Hardstyle but I've done the odd Hardcore set. Also play Techno and Trance as well.
Used to be in to Hardcore from around early to mid 90's, but from 2001 got hooked on what Mark EG and M-Zone were playing and left Hardcore behind.
https://soundcloud.com/djhakka-1
Here's all my mixes posted online, mostly home/studio mixes but also live ones in there. Nothing Hardcore but if I like Mark EG and M-Zone stuff you will find plenty they used to caine.
:thup: nice one man. Yeah I remember I used to like the Hard Trance a lot, hardcore was obviously my main one, but often there would be a hard dance room so I'd catch Mark EG and M-Zone if taking a break from the hardcore. Gabba is prob my favourite dance music outside of Hardcore. It's just relentlessly evil
Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:46:47 PM
:thup:
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Ah Gabba! haha, that's always got a special place in my heart. Never tried to mix it or make it, but as you say it's pure evil and relentless, totally sick sounds! :lol:
:thup:
Yeah its mental. Probably the best set I've seen was Viper at The sanctuary prob 2002. Came on after Breeze and Styles had played like a a full on euphoric hardcore set, everyone buzzing, loved up. Viper comes on and plays the harshest set ever and totally switched the vibe in there. Aamazing
Post by: Slim on Saturday 31 May 2014, 11:03:52 PM
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:38:13 AM
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:42:18 AM
Cheers for the concerns. I'll be alright :)
You're going of the rails man, it's time for a forum intervention. We will save you, you'll thanks us in the end.
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:44:57 AM
Jon man you mess, I've got your Websleuths thread loaded and ready to go when you finally crack.
Won't be long, I would PM you a few clues but I want to take out as many as possible :)
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:49:12 AM
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Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:52:41 AM
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:54:06 AM
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:57:37 AM
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:00:11 AM
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:03:03 AM
Perhaps it's a drug related euphemism though :undecided:
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:30:32 AM
Tits are rubbish, btw.
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:48:41 AM
Post by: Froggy on Sunday 1 June 2014, 02:26:12 PM
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Post by: davy_fulla on Sunday 1 June 2014, 11:00:35 PM
Ha, that video above is from '86 I think, but it's Doncater Warehoue. One of the DJ's playing in the video is a very young M-Zone who I know quite well and have DJ'd with him lots of times in various events in South West of England.
You need to see the full version as there are far more people off their tits, back in the days when lil ones cost £20 and f***ed you up all night long as they were strong MDMA, not like today where it could be bubble or all sorts of s***/legal high in them.
The tall chap with the two fingers giving it f*** is :lol:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHWTM8ey9g
Guy at about 2 mins is having a reet old gurn. Looks like sloth out the goonies
Post by: davy_fulla on Sunday 1 June 2014, 11:03:00 PM
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 15 June 2014, 10:13:24 AM
They also give me darks thoughts.
Post by: Sargey on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 04:50:44 PM
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Guy at 2.38 haha
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 06:52:48 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 07:07:48 PM
Post by: Slim on Saturday 2 August 2014, 05:04:01 PM
Police are warning everyone at #KendalCalling about the harmful effect of a strong batch of MDMA at the festival #notodrugs #notworththerisk
Warning people there is strong MDMA around will only encourage people to buy it.
What a stupid warning.
Just take a half
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 30 October 2014, 11:51:35 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 30 October 2014, 12:58:21 PM
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 30 October 2014, 01:11:52 PM
Third degree gurns all over the place.
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 30 October 2014, 01:31:03 PM
There really is some ridiculous pills about at the minute like.
Third degree gurns all over the place.
:lol:
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Thursday 30 October 2014, 01:56:52 PM
Staggering it needed to be said.
There's no link between severe penalties and any kind of crime that I can see. It's a massive fallacy that government has to maintain. The thought of the penalty enters the mind of an absolutely tiny proportion of offenders... just seems obvious that people don't work like that.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 30 October 2014, 02:02:20 PM
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Post by: Astroblack on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 12:10:44 AM
Tried xanax a couple times. Blacked out both times. First time my friend was with me and he took me home. Second time I woke up at a co workers house. Don't remember a single thing from both nights and I'll never do the stuff again.
Post by: summerof69 on Saturday 7 March 2015, 12:48:17 AM
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:43:59 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:51:47 AM
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:54:12 AM
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:55:33 AM
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 01:28:03 AM
I'm beginning to think though it isn't just misinformation, an even bigger problem is people simply don't want to know. The evidence in favour of legalisation is so overwhelming it's almost stupid, yet we're still many years away from it in all likelihood.
I ask because I just watched it. Like a lot of people was pro-legalisation before watching it but some of the factual evidence is just incredible.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 02:12:43 AM
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 11:32:24 PM
Post by: Slim on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:10:50 AM
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/rt3okm.jpg)
Makes no sense
Most likely you would be home on a come down.
Sounds like they are talking about Pill or MDMA but why would you have a blocked nose unless doing coke.
And £150 must be on about coke.
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:26:19 AM
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:41:26 AM
Got myself an Adderoll prescription and a diagnosis for ADD. Pretty good so far. Went from getting a 50 in one of my classes to getting a 103. Haven't had many side affects yet because I researched the thing and only take them for high stress situations. Quite good for a night out, too. I have quite a bit of anxiety and this stuff keeps my head up. Makes me feel normal tbh. I'm in the US. Curious if they're allowed in England.
Tried xanax a couple times. Blacked out both times. First time my friend was with me and he took me home. Second time I woke up at a co workers house. Don't remember a single thing from both nights and I'll never do the stuff again.
When I tried Adderall, it really f***ed me up. I'm not used to being so antsy.
I took toporimate for my headaches, and it's the worst s*** I have ever taken. My headaches got worst, and it f***ed up my whole system. Made me paranoid, and caused pins and needles everywhere. I stopped it after 10 days and refused to take it again. I'd rather take several hits of acid than that horrible stuff.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:43:40 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 20 June 2015, 06:45:35 PM
Post by: Slim on Monday 22 June 2015, 04:59:46 PM
https://youtu.be/W8yYJ_oV6xk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 June 2015, 06:28:58 PM
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 22 June 2015, 06:34:51 PM
I'm sure most politicians know the terrible effects of prohibition as well, but no-one will stick their neck out. Self preservation, it's terribly bad PR to be seen supporting drug reform.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 June 2015, 06:50:54 PM
I'm bored of them now though, just hurry up and get this s*** decriminalised already.
Post by: Noodles on Monday 22 June 2015, 08:10:50 PM
Jesus I well wanna watch the opening scene of layer cake right about now :lol:
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 22 June 2015, 08:27:43 PM
I honestly do think we'll see an end to prohibition in our lifetime.
Jesus I well wanna watch the opening scene of layer cake right about now :lol:
Yeah? How come? I hope so, but I can't see it myself
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 June 2015, 08:31:15 PM
Post by: Noodles on Tuesday 23 June 2015, 09:12:29 AM
I honestly do think we'll see an end to prohibition in our lifetime.
Jesus I well wanna watch the opening scene of layer cake right about now :lol:
Yeah? How come? I hope so, but I can't see it myself
Purely based on the turning of the tide of public opinion mate. People will see the figures coming out of Portugal and realise that the criminalisation of users has been a policy as barbaric as the criminalising of failed suicides used to be.
Post by: sixx on Sunday 5 July 2015, 07:46:12 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:19:52 PM
Everywhere but progressive Britain.
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:34:31 PM
I took a concerta like 7 hours ago. Feel like I could be up until christmas. Never doing this again. f***.
How many mg?
Post by: B-more Mag on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:35:47 PM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:39:17 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html
Yeah, a lot of people baulk at the idea of 'legalising' stronger drugs. It's understandable, but it's definitely a bit short-sighted.
Post by: colinmk on Monday 6 July 2015, 10:04:32 PM
I took a concerta like 7 hours ago. Feel like I could be up until christmas. Never doing this again. f***.
How many mg?
What's a concerta?
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 02:02:31 AM
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 02:28:17 AM
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 07:14:05 AM
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 12:27:46 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 12:31:54 PM
Any "safe" sexual drugs?
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 12:38:55 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html
All for legalising some of the lesser drugs, but definitely not this. Last thing we need is more smackheads draining the economy. Let them crack on with killing themselves.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 01:34:56 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 01:38:52 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 01:55:19 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html
All for legalising some of the lesser drugs, but definitely not this. Last thing we need is more smackheads draining the economy. Let them crack on with killing themselves.
I don't know the ins and outs of drug usage and trade where you are, but here (meaning Baltimore, specifically, but I'm fairly certain in many other cities as well) the heroin deaths are concentrated in areas where the population is almost entirely black, poverty, unemployment, and murder rates are disproportionately high, and neighborhoods often look like war zones. A lot of this is the result of the U.S's history of slavery, segregation, and post-segregation racism, of both the overt and institutional varieties. In light of all that, I'd rather give people a better shot at surviving than continue to abandon them.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 04:05:53 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html
All for legalising some of the lesser drugs, but definitely not this. Last thing we need is more smackheads draining the economy. Let them crack on with killing themselves.
I don't know the ins and outs of drug usage and trade where you are, but here (meaning Baltimore, specifically, but I'm fairly certain in many other cities as well) the heroin deaths are concentrated in areas where the population is almost entirely black, poverty, unemployment, and murder rates are disproportionately high, and neighborhoods often look like war zones. A lot of this is the result of the U.S's history of slavery, segregation, and post-segregation racism, of both the overt and institutional varieties. In light of all that, I'd rather give people a better shot at surviving than continue to abandon them.
Much the same here, but swapping racial factors for class ones.
Post by: henke on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 04:10:19 PM
Post by: Astroblack on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 05:25:44 PM
I took a concerta like 7 hours ago. Feel like I could be up until christmas. Never doing this again. f***.
How many mg?
What's a concerta?
Its ADHD medicine. Its like weak meth. I take adderalls. They're similar and help with focus, attention and for me, anxiety.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 9 July 2015, 05:47:40 PM
http://reset.me/personal-story/psychedelics-arent-just-for-the-mentally-ill-theyre-for-normal-people-like-me-too/
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I don’t have a story for you about suffering from PTSD or having chronic fear, but I think it is equally important, if not more so, to share the experiences of people like me. Everybody has varying degrees of trauma in their life. I know that there are things that have happened to me that I have never dealt with, although they are far less traumatic than the experiences that come from spending massive amounts of time in combat zones or immersed in twisted environments and relationships.
I am currently 29-years old and three years ago I decided to make a “30 Before 30″ list. Some of the things were simple dreams I just never made time to do, like being able to do a handstand without using the wall. Others were more challenging; This summer I’m going on a survival trip in the mountains with only a utility knife and bow and arrows.
About the time I began compiling my list was the same time I began listening to one of my favorite comedian’s podcast: Joe Rogan. At this point, marijuana is basically the only drug I have ever used, although pretty regularly. I actually prefer it to alcohol. I once had an amazing night using coke and realized I needed to stay far, far away from it. I've never even smoked a cigarette, because I thought they were disgusting, and still do.
I had plenty of friends talk about doing psychedelics. I had been at parties where people had ‘shrooms or LSD and offered them to me. I just wasn’t interested. I didn't think negatively of it, I just didn't feel compelled to do them. Hearing Joe Rogan describe his experience with psychedelics just piqued my interest. I'm a research nerd and began reading everything I could get my hands on about psilocybin, peyote, mescaline, ayahuasca… I couldn’t get enough. My personality begs to be completely immersed in whatever it is I’m interested in, and to know every aspect of it, positive or negative.
Psilocybin mushrooms quickly went on my 30 Before 30 list. I began meditating every day, because I believed if I could get really good at that I would be able to guide my psychedelic experience. I put the word out to “my people” that I was in the market. Occasionally, I would check in with them. Three years went by…
I had been told a few times that somebody had something for me. It never worked out. My best friend got some, we made a great plan, but then he backed out at the last minute (that’s a different story of the heart, he didn't think he would enjoy the trip because of emotional baggage). I was devastated.
The same friend reached out to me again a couple of months ago. We made the same plans to go to my lake house outside of the city we live in. He had always taken them recreationally and I wanted to experience them, so this was going to be new to him too, despite this being his forty-ish time doing them. I had set a clear intention about what I wanted out of this trip, and I felt pulled out to the lake house the entire hour long drive. I even enjoyed the taste of the mushrooms and licked my fingers clean, which my buddy said has probably never happened in the history of the world.
I’m getting long-winded, so I’ll not go into great detail about the trip (although, I did write a detailed account of it). Ultimately, I ate an eighth of really amazing psilocybin mushrooms and had a mind-bending experience. The thoughts I had and things I saw will stay burned in my memory forever. Even after staying in the lake house from 6pm until about 8am the next day and not sleeping a wink, I felt rejuvenated. I also felt like I had birthed something, as if I had put in hard labor to create something that I loved.
I had always heard Joe Rogan say, “Yea, you gotta do them about every two months or so to reset.” I was still trying to sort out everything that next day and thought that there was no f***ing way I could ever do this every two months, even though I loved every moment of the experience. I had felt the universe wrap its arms around me and felt amazing amounts of love, but it was so much. I’m not a mother, but in my mind it would be like going from conception to birth in a matter of hours every two months.
Not a day passes that I don’t think back to something from those moments with vivid memory. However, today I feel as if I could totally do that every two months to reset. Things get swept aside so much in my daily life. There’s still trauma that I’ve buried under years of silence and eventually disregarded completely as ever happening.
Psychedelics aren’t just for the physically or mentally ill. It’s for people like me too. I refuse to be ashamed that this was something I did and will do again, but I know the looks I get when I openly talk about it are meant to shame me. I hope you are able to make a difference in the stigma that surrounds drugs like these. I would love to be a part of it in any way that I can.
And unrelated but an enlightening read:
https://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/drugs-and-the-meaning-of-life/
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 10 July 2015, 07:18:27 AM
Any "safe" sexual drugs?
PM if needed.
Post by: henke on Friday 10 July 2015, 02:29:57 PM
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Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 25 July 2015, 12:13:35 PM
Post by: Cunning_Linguist on Saturday 25 July 2015, 01:32:36 PM
Just have licenced outlets, like coffee shops that do it.
TO be honest, I think that the Government should be concentrating more on the COcaine in this country as in the area I live, I can pretty much get a gram of Coke delivered to my door quicker than a f***ing Pizza...
Post by: TheGuv on Saturday 25 July 2015, 01:37:53 PM
Although for years it seems ridiculous that weed hasn't been legalised.
The money the government could make off it man :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 1 August 2015, 02:53:30 PM
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Professor David Nutt: Why Banning LSD and Magic Mushrooms is the Worst Censorship of Medicine in World History
BY RESHMA BIRING · JULY 30, 2015
Speaking at Breaking Convention, a three-day conference held in London that aimed to explore the benefits of psychedelic drugs as medicines, amongst other topics, Professor David Nutt talked to me about his concerns on how the law is interfering with medical research and why LSD is still a problem child.
Professor David Nutt is to drug science what David Attenborough is to the natural world. A renowned neuropsychopharmacologist based at Imperial College, London, Professor Nutt is famed for sparking debates around illegal drugs and government policies. He is one of a few voices for the psychedelic community, and those researching banned substances, who speaks candidly about drugs by using science to back up what he says.
Hearing him talk at Breaking Convention about how laws are making it very difficult to research psychedelic drugs, makes it feel like the human race is missing out on something: a giant leap for medicine that politicians are happy to shun. When the idea that psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin (the compound found in magic mushrooms) can be used to treat a variety of mental health issues, such as addictions, anxiety and depression, why wouldn’t you want to delve into the rabbit hole of research, and see where it takes you?
Shrouded in red tape and a bad political reputation, LSD was banned in the UK and thrown into deep space in 1966. Roll forward nearly half a century and politicians still won’t change their stance on what could be the wonder drug for therapeutic practice, regardless of what positive findings have been produced.
“Politicians have this peculiar fear of LSD,” asserts Professor Nutt. “Albert Hoffman [the Swiss scientist who first synthesised the drug in 1938] said LSD was his ‘problem child’. There is no doubt it is still a problem child for very many politicians, for reasons that are historic, based on ignorance and on disinformation.”
Public opinion about the drug, which is notoriously associated with hippy culture, paints a different picture where psychedelics are more socially acceptable than the Government leads us to believe.
“One of the interesting things about psychedelics is that there is an enormous amount of sympathy in the general public to their use, particularly as medicines,” explains Professor Nutt. “A lot of people are very angry that they have been denied to the public as medicines for over 50 years. My own view is that this is the worst censorship of medicine and clinical research in the history of the world. If you really want to use [psychedelics] as medicine, it’s important to have a sound scientific underpinning.”
Professor Nutt and his team have been busy pioneering the use of techniques called ‘brain imaging’ to explore how psychedelics work in the brain. They have achieved three studies with psilocybin and have just completed the world’s first ever brain-imaging study with LSD, and the results are exciting for scientists, doctors and patients alike.
“We’ve [discovered] that these drugs have quite profound effects, for instance, they switch off the part of the brain that causes depression. Now we’re doing a trial using psilocybin to treat depression because we think where conventional treatments fail, psilocybin might work.”
But even though the outcome of these tests has proved quite promising, the stumbling blocks to this research are still present. The biggest and most obvious challenge is that these drugs are illegal. Only a very small handful of hospitals in the UK have permission to hold drugs like cannabis or psilocybin, which means Professor Nutt and his team can spend years of valuable time in getting extra permissions to do their work.
“The depression trial took three years to work through all the different regulations. We spent almost all the money we had just getting the drug and getting through those regulations,” explains Professor Nutt.
When you consider that a normal drug trial might take six months to get going, the research into psychedelics is very costly – at least 10 times that of other trials. And money doesn’t come easily. As the Government doesn’t stand by this line of research, crowdfunding has been one of the options to bring in the cash for this research. But when there’s lives at stake, isn’t it about time the Government turned their heads and tuned in their ears, instead of copping out whenever they catch wind that perhaps these so-called ‘bad drugs’ can actually be useful?
“The world needs to wake up to the potential of drugs like LSD and psilocybin, and also cannabis,” proclaims Professor Nutt. “These drugs have enormous potential. Every day that goes on with these drugs illegal, patients are suffering; patients are committing suicide because they are not getting treated for their depressions or their pain. So, it is a priority for medicine in the world to reverse these laws.”
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Post by: henke on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 04:32:01 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
I've just looked into it.
As an adhd sufferer myself I can't understand how whizz would help me in any way at all?
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 04:37:37 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 04:50:40 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
I've just looked into it.
As an adhd sufferer myself I can't understand how whizz would help me in any way at all?
Because it's a different drug. They're not literally giving speed to kids with ADD. :lol:
Post by: LucaAltieri on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 05:23:47 PM
The bit I find most disturbing is that they don't actually know how Adderall works. They have a rough idea but nothing concrete. I guess that's why they refer to it as "practicing" medicine.
I also looked at Modafinil which is supposed to be milder and awesome. My Dr seems open to it but wanted to try me on a standard treatment first. So far, no complaints. I'm getting s*** done.
Post by: Jill on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 06:42:42 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.
God that's a blast from the past. My cousin used to bang on about it when we were about 14. I tried some but never really found it to be anything spectacular.
Post by: henke on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 06:46:56 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
I've just looked into it.
As an adhd sufferer myself I can't understand how whizz would help me in any way at all?
Because it's a different drug. They're not literally giving speed to kids with ADD. :lol:
Ah right. :lol: Sounded like pouring petrol on a fire.
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 18 March 2016, 12:41:26 PM
Post by: thomas on Friday 18 March 2016, 01:05:20 PM
Missed this. :lol: What were 14 year olds doing with grey market brain drugs?! Legit studying/learning purposes?Adderall is the s***. That is all.I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.
God that's a blast from the past. My cousin used to bang on about it when we were about 14. I tried some but never really found it to be anything spectacular.
Post by: Jill on Friday 18 March 2016, 01:27:10 PM
Missed this. :lol: What were 14 year olds doing with grey market brain drugs?! Legit studying/learning purposes?Adderall is the s***. That is all.I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.
God that's a blast from the past. My cousin used to bang on about it when we were about 14. I tried some but never really found it to be anything spectacular.
My cousin heard about it online and ordered some because he was having trouble concentrating at school. I don't know how much of it he actually used for learning purposes though and how much was just consumed because it was there. :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 12:22:03 PM
Animal.
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I wouldn't have thought it possible to get 3g up each nostril without them clogging up!
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 10:22:39 PM
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Fear and Loathing in Guangzhou:lol: :lol:
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Post by: Neil on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 11:59:12 PM
What did you tell them? Sorry pal ive been up all night sniffing and im far too wired to come in?
I believe that is the correct protocol.
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Unbelievable work.
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Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 24 March 2016, 05:01:23 PM
Still, don't do for doing's sake.
Post by: thomas on Thursday 24 March 2016, 05:51:26 PM
Post by: Beren on Thursday 24 March 2016, 06:32:30 PM
I'm hardly enjoying anything in life. So I was wondering if drugs might help. (Bear in mind that I'm a total drug newbie.)
That's a bad starting place tbh.
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Post by: henke on Friday 25 March 2016, 01:23:25 AM
MDMA and LSD.
Candy flip, cracking idea! 😁
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 25 March 2016, 05:47:10 AM
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 25 March 2016, 05:52:36 AM
I'm hardly enjoying anything in life. So I was wondering if drugs might help. (Bear in mind that I'm a total drug newbie.)
Sounds like Zoloft might be a start.
Failing that, as bluff mentioned, MDMA/ketamine has been shown to effectively treat anhedonia.
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Post by: Slim on Saturday 26 March 2016, 12:04:34 PM
Even I would say don't do it with your mindset....I would try 5THP first and see how you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jntds3XAJ8
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Saturday 26 March 2016, 12:47:09 PM
Would be seriously careful if you're a bit delicate at the minute like, even ecstasy is good fun at the time but not exactly good for your mental well being afterwards.
Absolutely this. Worst possible time to dabble.
Post by: Mr Logic on Saturday 26 March 2016, 01:00:23 PM
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An international commission of medical experts is calling for global drug decriminalisation, arguing that current policies lead to violence, deaths and the spread of disease, harming health and human rights.
The commission, set up by the Lancet medical journal and Johns Hopkins University in the United States, finds that tough drugs laws have caused misery, failed to curb drug use, fuelled violent crime and spread the epidemics of HIV and hepatitis C through unsafe injecting.
Post by: TheHoob on Saturday 26 March 2016, 02:11:28 PM
Would be seriously careful if you're a bit delicate at the minute like, even ecstasy is good fun at the time but not exactly good for your mental well being afterwards.
Absolutely this. Worst possible time to dabble.
:thup:
Ecstasy can make me feel pretty down for a good week even if I'm in a good place at the time, could imagine it being a nightmare if you're already in the dumps.
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 03:50:07 AM
I'm hardly enjoying anything in life. So I was wondering if drugs might help. (Bear in mind that I'm a total drug newbie.)
This is the worst thing you could ever resort to.
You feel bad/down, yeah a few drinks and a gram of charlie will pick you up and you'll feel good, but the next day you'll just feel worse than you did to begin with. Then it will get to the stage where you're chasing it and being sober will make you feel bored and potentially depressed so you'll drink and take more gear regularly. It's one big downward spiral.
If you wanna take drugs, take them when when you're in a good place and feeling well. It will be a great experience and you won't wake up feeling even worse than you were to begin with if you're already feeling down.
If you wanna feel better about yourself, join a gym.. go swimming, do something productive. Take it from someone who's been there, don't start a gear habit.
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Post by: Dinho lad on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 03:25:37 PM
Are you in a relationship, Dinho?
:yao:
Post by: Dinho lad on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 03:26:56 PM
Will try HTP as it's a natural supplement, it's a shame I was too chicken to try drugs when I in a normal state of mind!
Post by: Open_C on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 08:02:04 PM
it's a shame I was too chicken to try drugs when I in a normal state of mind!
It's really not, tbh :)
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Meh, I'm easily put off. Will give it a miss, then.
Will try HTP as it's a natural supplement, it's a shame I was too chicken to try drugs when I in a normal state of mind!
Its not but when your better pop over my house and we will soon sort that out!
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 25 July 2016, 05:40:51 PM
https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=35684
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 27 August 2016, 08:17:59 PM
A fascinating read.
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Saturday 1 October 2016, 05:08:23 PM
I didn't think I was a prude, I'll smoke weed every now and again and I knew my girlfriend did before we got together, but I've found she does it more than I realize and it's become a source of tension. I guess I view it similar to getting p*ssed, cool on a friday night or the odd weekend but not cool when it's just commonplace.
She'll smoke often on a weekday, it doesn't matter what time. Sometimes before work (at a cafe, she doesn't like the job). In the evening again. On the weekends quite often before going out for lunch, maybe again at night. It's not every single day and she can go periods without because she hasn't been able to buy any, but it's pretty typical. I thought I didn't mind weed but I'm growing to resent coming into her flat (which I basically live at) and smelling it lingering from earlier.
She acts like I'm being a prude the one time we argued about it when at lunch time on a saturday I said 'You're not going to smoke now are you?'.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 1 October 2016, 05:12:02 PM
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Saturday 1 October 2016, 07:47:35 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
Post by: colinmk on Saturday 1 October 2016, 08:11:51 PM
It depends a lot on your state of mind, some people it suits and some it doesn't. I know people that can smoke during the day and they are fine though, can still function perfectly well. Another person I know of smokes in morning at times, is an absolute state and it clearly effects her life in a bad way. These days if I did that I'd be a mess too, makes me paranoid for a start.
Post by: Slim on Saturday 1 October 2016, 09:37:58 PM
Agree with Bluf, and would just add that it really effects everyone differently so I'd judge it on that more than just that she smokes a lot. From about 15 until early 20s I was same as her, smoking every day without fail and would spark a joint as soon as come home etc. It was great for a while but I just got older, got a bit bored of that lifestyle and felt it was slowing me down so gradually stopped and now hardly ever. Looking back I would say that for a few years just did it to relieve boredom and can relate to what she says about it making things more interesting. There comes a time when you think that maybe you should try and sort that out rather than just getting stoned to counter it though.
It depends a lot on your state of mind, some people it suits and some it doesn't. I know people that can smoke during the day and they are fine though, can still function perfectly well. Another person I know of smokes in morning at times, is an absolute state and it clearly effects her life in a bad way. These days if I did that I'd be a mess too, makes me paranoid for a start.
I used to smoke all the time in my 20's but now there is no way I can handle it now. But I think she should be able to see your point and have a sensible chat. If not f*** her off as she is not worth your time.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 2 October 2016, 12:11:25 AM
Fully understand what Bluf's saying, I know a few people like that, but it's pretty hard to wrap your head around it when you're with them all the time and you know they're not fully with you.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 2 October 2016, 12:03:43 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
See, that's where I always draw the line funnily enough. I'll never smoke if I'm going to work or something semi-responsible, dealing with public. That's where my sober self is quite useful. In saying that, it makes me a better parent at home. I'll actually play with the kids, get right into it with the toys and stuff. :lol: Instead of sort of just managing them. Sometimes I'll find myself, laying there playing with the lego or something and they've buggered off to watch the TV for the last half hour. :blush:
I can imagine her digging in though. From a personal point of view, I get like that when I feel like someone is misunderstanding my desire to smoke. Usually parents! :laugh: It isn't like other drugs or drink, it's not a destructive thing for the most part. I don't care what anyone has to say on that matter (not directed at you or anyone here, by the way). Unless you're one of the wake & bakers or a teenage smoker. Never healthy to smoke in the morning, you need to let your brain breathe. And despite pretty much smoking since I was 16, if I had a choice to go back and do it all again, I'd certainly hold off until I was at least 18 before getting into it like that. At that age it does hold you back. Fucksake, I was growing it back then, making money from it. :lol:
That's why I'm completely out in the open about my use, and it's kind of worked out this time as the other half is very accepting as opposed to the ex, who smoked constantly herself until she started cheating then used my smoking and attitude as a reason for that. c***. There's no point me pretending it's all great. A lack of my sobriety might be why I'm too content to have not achieved much in my life, given up on any ambitions and also not be bothered by that.
It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing. My old social circle is exactly like you've described. Weed has a culture very much to itself. If anything, I think the fact it's still frowned upon, criminalised and whatever is what drives us to the defensive position and digging in. I'm sure of that. I have no answers for you man, ultimately it's things like these that drive people apart. What's not advertised when you get to know one another, what you learn about each other when you're actually together more and more. I doubt you'll get her to back down, I've honestly never met a weed smoker that has ever accepted the argument against and I suppose you could include me in that. :lol: As Colin said, it suits some and not others. I guess it'll boil down to pros and cons and what wins that. Sorry bud. :thup:
There's definitely a lot of stereotypes that need blown away but that's a wider issue, not related to yourself. One is this gateway drug pish, which, to be fair, I'd not heard in many many years, until Owen f***ing Smith said it in the leadership election. :lol: for me it's a closed door drug, helps me battle addiction to real gateway drugs. What a f***ing plank he was.
EDIT: Whoa, too many smilies. This is what happens when you type a post over the course of an hour.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 2 October 2016, 04:19:03 PM
Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:
My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Sunday 2 October 2016, 06:26:53 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
See, that's where I always draw the line funnily enough. I'll never smoke if I'm going to work or something semi-responsible, dealing with public. That's where my sober self is quite useful. In saying that, it makes me a better parent at home. I'll actually play with the kids, get right into it with the toys and stuff. :lol: Instead of sort of just managing them. Sometimes I'll find myself, laying there playing with the lego or something and they've buggered off to watch the TV for the last half hour. :blush:
I can imagine her digging in though. From a personal point of view, I get like that when I feel like someone is misunderstanding my desire to smoke. Usually parents! :laugh: It isn't like other drugs or drink, it's not a destructive thing for the most part. I don't care what anyone has to say on that matter (not directed at you or anyone here, by the way). Unless you're one of the wake & bakers or a teenage smoker. Never healthy to smoke in the morning, you need to let your brain breathe. And despite pretty much smoking since I was 16, if I had a choice to go back and do it all again, I'd certainly hold off until I was at least 18 before getting into it like that. At that age it does hold you back. Fucksake, I was growing it back then, making money from it. :lol:
That's why I'm completely out in the open about my use, and it's kind of worked out this time as the other half is very accepting as opposed to the ex, who smoked constantly herself until she started cheating then used my smoking and attitude as a reason for that. c***. There's no point me pretending it's all great. A lack of my sobriety might be why I'm too content to have not achieved much in my life, given up on any ambitions and also not be bothered by that.
It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing. My old social circle is exactly like you've described. Weed has a culture very much to itself. If anything, I think the fact it's still frowned upon, criminalised and whatever is what drives us to the defensive position and digging in. I'm sure of that. I have no answers for you man, ultimately it's things like these that drive people apart. What's not advertised when you get to know one another, what you learn about each other when you're actually together more and more. I doubt you'll get her to back down, I've honestly never met a weed smoker that has ever accepted the argument against and I suppose you could include me in that. :lol: As Colin said, it suits some and not others. I guess it'll boil down to pros and cons and what wins that. Sorry bud. :thup:
There's definitely a lot of stereotypes that need blown away but that's a wider issue, not related to yourself. One is this gateway drug pish, which, to be fair, I'd not heard in many many years, until Owen f***ing Smith said it in the leadership election. :lol: for me it's a closed door drug, helps me battle addiction to real gateway drugs. What a f***ing plank he was.
EDIT: Whoa, too many smilies. This is what happens when you type a post over the course of an hour.
Really thanks, it's good to get another view. She should care about how I feel about it but I also shouldn't impose some kind of unfounded view of what it means to smoke so often, I've never been around it.
Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:
My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.
I do think it's different. I maybe missed those social circles in the UK and get an exaggerated impression of it, but it just seems much more widespread here. Here in Chicago I just smell it when I'm out and about all the time, way more than in the UK, and my girlfriend considers it hard to get a hold of here compared to LA.
Post by: louistoon on Sunday 2 October 2016, 11:51:27 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
See, that's where I always draw the line funnily enough. I'll never smoke if I'm going to work or something semi-responsible, dealing with public. That's where my sober self is quite useful. In saying that, it makes me a better parent at home. I'll actually play with the kids, get right into it with the toys and stuff. :lol: Instead of sort of just managing them. Sometimes I'll find myself, laying there playing with the lego or something and they've buggered off to watch the TV for the last half hour. :blush:
I can imagine her digging in though. From a personal point of view, I get like that when I feel like someone is misunderstanding my desire to smoke. Usually parents! :laugh: It isn't like other drugs or drink, it's not a destructive thing for the most part. I don't care what anyone has to say on that matter (not directed at you or anyone here, by the way). Unless you're one of the wake & bakers or a teenage smoker. Never healthy to smoke in the morning, you need to let your brain breathe. And despite pretty much smoking since I was 16, if I had a choice to go back and do it all again, I'd certainly hold off until I was at least 18 before getting into it like that. At that age it does hold you back. Fucksake, I was growing it back then, making money from it. :lol:
That's why I'm completely out in the open about my use, and it's kind of worked out this time as the other half is very accepting as opposed to the ex, who smoked constantly herself until she started cheating then used my smoking and attitude as a reason for that. c***. There's no point me pretending it's all great. A lack of my sobriety might be why I'm too content to have not achieved much in my life, given up on any ambitions and also not be bothered by that.
It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing. My old social circle is exactly like you've described. Weed has a culture very much to itself. If anything, I think the fact it's still frowned upon, criminalised and whatever is what drives us to the defensive position and digging in. I'm sure of that. I have no answers for you man, ultimately it's things like these that drive people apart. What's not advertised when you get to know one another, what you learn about each other when you're actually together more and more. I doubt you'll get her to back down, I've honestly never met a weed smoker that has ever accepted the argument against and I suppose you could include me in that. :lol: As Colin said, it suits some and not others. I guess it'll boil down to pros and cons and what wins that. Sorry bud. :thup:
There's definitely a lot of stereotypes that need blown away but that's a wider issue, not related to yourself. One is this gateway drug pish, which, to be fair, I'd not heard in many many years, until Owen f***ing Smith said it in the leadership election. :lol: for me it's a closed door drug, helps me battle addiction to real gateway drugs. What a f***ing plank he was.
EDIT: Whoa, too many smilies. This is what happens when you type a post over the course of an hour.
Really thanks, it's good to get another view. She should care about how I feel about it but I also shouldn't impose some kind of unfounded view of what it means to smoke so often, I've never been around it.Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:
My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.
I do think it's different. I maybe missed those social circles in the UK and get an exaggerated impression of it, but it just seems much more widespread here. Here in Chicago I just smell it when I'm out and about all the time, way more than in the UK, and my girlfriend considers it hard to get a hold of here compared to LA.
Depends where you live you cant really generalise to a whole country. Smelt weed round liverpool all the time when I lived there.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 7 October 2016, 01:16:27 PM
:thup:
Post by: henke on Friday 7 October 2016, 07:38:54 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Friday 7 October 2016, 07:55:26 PM
Also Joe Rogan with Rick Doblin the founder of maps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prxam5Lp4S4
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 7 October 2016, 08:17:19 PM
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Friday 7 October 2016, 08:45:27 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Friday 7 October 2016, 08:58:37 PM
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Post by: Charlies on Friday 7 October 2016, 09:10:37 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 7 October 2016, 09:42:34 PM
Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication. I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic. You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people. I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner. Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed.
My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference. For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force. It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you. Sorry it's s*** for you. She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it. Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far. The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.
I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is. For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating.
It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.
This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:
My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.
:lol: nah. The missus was smoking at school at 16 or some s***. Their schooling basically means their final year of high school is just mass debauchery because they're already accepted at a university.
Post by: Greg on Sunday 6 November 2016, 03:30:15 PM
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A teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub
An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 6 November 2016, 03:32:59 PM
QuoteA teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub
An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528
Poor soul.
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 6 November 2016, 11:35:45 PM
QuoteA teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub
An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528
Unlucky. Could have been prevented if drugs weren't illegal.
Post by: colinmk on Sunday 6 November 2016, 11:43:51 PM
QuoteA teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub
An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528
Unlucky. Could have been prevented if drugs weren't illegal.
Indeed, it's absolutely mental in this day and age that we aren't much further on with this.
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 21 November 2016, 01:08:03 AM
Heartwrenching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeU2tDRTlMM
Post by: Ndegwa on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 12:36:34 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3969696/Anne-Atkins-says-cannabis-shattered-life-Cambridge-graduate-daughter.html
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The figure in the hospital bed was someone we barely recognised. Thin, unkempt and whey-faced, hair chopped off with kitchen scissors, I knew it was my daughter Lara, but something had changed her horribly.
We longed to throw our arms around her and cuddle her, but the antagonism in her eyes held me and my husband back.
This was something entirely new. Over the many, troubled years of our second eldest daughter’s life, my husband Shaun and I had seen many different Laras: the kind little girl who delighted everyone with her cheeky poems and limericks. The talented artist. The quicksilver violinist. The brilliant scholar with an acerbic wit.
And, latterly, the desperately-ill adolescent and young woman, trying to survive a world which often frightened and confused her.
But not this. Never this.
And then she let us have it, subjecting us to the most blistering few minutes of our lives, so painful I can hardly bear to repeat it: ‘I hate you. I’ve always hated you. I’ve hated you since I was 12, and I’ve never wanted you in my life. I don’t want you to speak to me for the next 20 years, to make up for my not having a voice as a child.’
I was shaking for a week after that dreadful morning in November 2013, and carried on crying every day for pretty much the next two years. What had transformed our lovely, 28-year-old, daughter into this bitter, spite-filled stranger?
Lara herself lays the blame unequivocally at the feet of cannabis, though she was never even an average user. She only ever allowed herself a puff or two a day, for medicinal purposes, and has used just 5 grams in total in her life.
But it was enough to make her high every day for nine months, and — tragically — enough to devastate her personality, perceptions, relationships, health and nearly her life.
So, when I hear of the liberal elite, led by Nick Clegg, calling for the legalisation of cannabis because ‘it’s not very harmful’ or ‘everyone’s doing it’, it makes me not just sad, but angry. The U.S. states of Colorado and Washington decriminalised cannabis four years ago. Not surprisingly, use is way up, including by minors — but so too is cannabis-related crime, homelessness, suicide, hospitalisation and alcoholism.
And the black market still thrives.
A cross-party group of MPs has called for an end to the ‘embarrassment’ that is our current drugs policy, and found that legalisation could bring in £1 billion in tax.
Well I don’t care how embarrassing it is, or how much it nets. Cannabis is not the cuddly, harmless puff we pretend it is: it wrecks lives, as it wrecked our daughter Lara’s — incidentally, a very talented Cambridge graduate who could have been filling the country’s tax coffers in a much more wholesome way, but has never yet been able to work.
Nor is it true, as Conservative MP Peter Lilley said, that ‘currently cannabis can only be obtained from illegal gangs who also push hard drugs’.
Lara obtained hers from a family friend, in our pleasant leafy neighbourhood, and it is widely and readily available in that privileged seat of learning, Cambridge University itself.
While I’ve always believed the drug utterly ruins the lives of an unfortunate small minority — as a vicar’s wife in Fulham, West London, I’ve seen, first-hand, lives destroyed by it — Lara herself goes further. She maintains that it damages everyone it touches, even in the tiniest of amounts and for any length of time.
I always knew Lara was the last person who should have dabbled in drugs. Mental illness runs in our family: two of Lara’s cousins, of the same age, have had problems, and the links between schizoprenia, psychosis and cannabis are well-documented.
An imaginative and eccentric child, Lara — whom we call Bink — was always quirky. But soon after she gained a place at the prestigious St Paul’s Girls’ School in London, aged 11, her quirkiness took a worrying turn.
Ostracised by a schoolfriend and desperately lonely, she started to worry about her personal cleanliness. This developed into a problem with obsessive washing. Unknown to us, she’d get up every day at 3 am to wash her clothes then go to school in them wet, so she could be ‘clean’.
At 15, with us growing increasingly concerned about her troubles, she was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder by a psychiatrist friend. At 16, after waiting an agonising year for treatment due to an administrative error, she took a ‘gesture’ overdose in a desperate bid for help.
I knew that’s all it was — she’d called for help as soon as she’d taken the drugs — but suddenly the big guns of the medical profession took notice and said she must be hospitalised.
We had just settled her in hospital when the nurse dropped the bombshell: at 16 she was an ‘adult’, and we, her parents, had no rights. Not to take her home, nor to see her notes; not to visit — and certainly not to veto her treatment.
How often have I berated myself for not going straight back upstairs and telling her to pack her bags!
After that, we could only watch, appalled, as her condition worsened ten-fold: robbed of the intellectual stimulation of school and home, surrounded by patients with acute (and very different) mental illnesses, put in worse-than-useless therapy all day, denied fresh air and exercise and rake-thin within a week.
At least I knew she was as opposed to medication as I was.
But how long can you hold out, aged 16 and as vulnerable as a child, cut off from your family and with all the adults supposedly ‘caring’ for you, bullying you instead? After six weeks, Lara gave in and took the pills.
So began an addiction to anti-depressants which was to propel her, eventually, into the grips of an even more damaging drug: cannabis. Though she was never addicted to cannabis, she holds both responsible for the havoc wreaked in her life.
Over the next few years, with a few intermittent fits and starts, Lara managed to continue with school and gained a place at Cambridge to read English Literature.
But life was a monumental struggle: she was sleeping for 18 to 20 hours a day. Repeatedly, she asked her GP (as did I) why she couldn’t stay awake. It took a fellow undergraduate to tell her it was down to her medication.
So that Easter 2011, she gradually came off the drugs over six weeks. None of us knew how much she was suffering with withdrawal. But in daily agony, on the point of another breakdown and facing the loss of her university place — but determined not to go back on the medication which had done her so much harm — she looked around for something to get her through.
And that something was cannabis.
Of course, she kept it from us. She knew how passionately we were both opposed to it. Cannabis had never been part of our comfortable, middle-class lives, but we knew of the ravages it could wreak from a few unfortunate members of our parish.
To Lara, though, it became a lifeline. Easily susceptible, her tiny puff got her through each day. And, ironically, she says that it worked. It gave her a window in the pain, a few hours of relief. And, yes, despite sometimes clinging on to life by her fingertips, she got a good degree.
But, underneath, her personality was being eroded. Intelligent friends, her therapist and, most shockingly, a psychiatrist, all knew she was using it and didn’t stop her. The psychiatrist even asserted that alcohol would do more damage than cannabis.
What no one told her, however, was that it could also render her irresponsive, sometimes even mute, and incapable of seeing that her family loved her and longed to help.
She was, she says now, tormented and in hell. But the cannabis itself made her incapable of isolating the problem. She knew something was terribly wrong, but not what it was.
Within weeks of her starting to use it, I knew something was desperately amiss. Although she never smoked cannabis in front of me, I became more and more distressed as our previously gentle and kind daughter started to astonish us with some brutally unkind behaviour.
It seems so petty, but little things, tiny acts of selfishness and spite, told me something had robbed us of our lovely girl. One evening, I cooked her favourite curry for her and some friends who longed to meet her, but she didn’t bother to turn up.
She never answered her phone, or apologised — and couldn’t see why she had to.
Back at university, she never rang us and she even started to live elsewhere. Her little sister Rose, now 13 and by far Lara’s biggest fan, couldn’t work out what was going on. Her sister had always had time for her; but now she had become an unreliable ‘fruitcake’.
Nevertheless, Lara looked stunning at her graduation and at her sister Serena’s wedding in the summer of 2013, although she spent the evening outside the marquee in tears.
She then planned to spend a month or two catching up with friends before joining the world of work. It never happened. She drifted, living off benefits, staying with friends, once sleeping rough for a month in a desperate bid to get treatment.
She had long since stopped using cannabis, realising the impact on her mental health, but the damage had been done.
Then came that call, in the dead of night, in November 2013. She’d left a strange note at a friend’s house, possibly suggesting suicide.
The police called us and we dropped everything to go to the hospital — where we were dismissed in a tirade of insults and accusations. All she knew was that she was in terrible pain. For the next two years, Shaun and I hardly saw our daughter, and sometimes we didn’t know whether she was alive or dead.
Most painfully, we had to tell Rose’s boarding school not to put calls through from her adored sister, or let her visit. We just didn’t know her any more. It was more painful than all her previous years of illness put together. Occasionally she would make contact, angry and unrecognisable.
Then one night 18 months ago, at 1.30am, she rang asking for help. Something had broken in her, and she wanted to come home.
She’d been away for so long that for ages she’d felt she couldn’t come back. But she knew her only chance of getting well was to reach out and hope someone was there to catch her.
Of course, we were. I collected her immediately. We had never seen her so ill, frequently unable even to speak: but she was home.
Caring for her over the past year has not been easy, but our lovely daughter is slowly returning, though there is still a long haul before she will be able to fend for herself, let alone seek employment.
Two weeks ago she took her first step to independence, moving to supported accommodation in Cambridge. She speaks of her ‘four-year psychosis’, and is convinced that cannabis was the cause of her dramatic decline. Yes, her mental health problems were already there, but that in itself made her dangerously susceptible to the drug.
Currently, she says, we have the worst of everything: cannabis is both socially acceptable and unregulated. She maintains we need to make it safer and change society’s attitude. Not until cannabis has become as unacceptable as hard drugs will we really be getting to grips with it.
Lara has friends who will never recover from the effects of cannabis, living in hospitals for the rest of their lives. She considers herself extremely lucky to have come back from that place. As a child, Lara dreamed of being a writer — and a mother. But after her terrible experiences, part of her is frightened of passing on the illness she inherited.
Ask her what she’d like to be one day, and she says: ‘Myself.’ There is a team of supportive friends praying for her, all of us believing that one day her dream will come true.
An absolutely staggering article of unverified anecdotes that's likely completely fabricated to boot. Wow.
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 08:45:55 AM
Post by: Jill on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 08:49:57 AM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 09:48:08 AM
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:18:52 AM
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:22:34 AM
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Lara has friends who will never recover from the effects of cannabis, living in hospitals for the rest of their lives. She considers herself extremely lucky to have come back from that place
Seriously, where the f*** they getting their gear :lol:
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:26:58 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:47:18 AM
They've blatantly been speed balling and then said it was cannabis to get in less trouble. :lol:
:lol:
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:48:51 AM
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 11:38:04 AM
Post by: Jaqen on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 02:23:55 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 03:03:43 PM
They haven't really thought this through.
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 03:06:39 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 03:12:04 PM
There are a lot of deluded pot smokers out there. Believe anything their dealers and pot puffing friends tell them.
"pot puffing friends" ffs :lol: they're a scream like, it'd be funnier if they weren't running the country.
Post by: Ndegwa on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 04:55:49 PM
Still nothing like anecdotal evidence to ensure a drug isn't given at the very least a thoroughly sensible reclassification.
This is my main gripe mate, this kind of propaganda will convince many on 'that' side of the spectrum that cannabis is incredibly harmful and therefore not suitable for decriminlaisation/legalisation.
'But the evidence points to..'
'THERE WAS THIS CAMBRIDGE GRADUATE WHO PLAYED THE VIOLIN WHO HAD HER LIFE RUINED BY CANNABIS AND SPENT WEEKS IN A HOPSITAL FULL OF WEED-INDUCED MENTAL WASTERS'
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 1 December 2016, 08:18:41 AM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 1 December 2016, 09:54:51 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 1 December 2016, 11:37:46 AM
I look forward to seeing her slowly unravel in front of the cameras.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 4 December 2016, 02:06:48 PM
lucky she's not an absolute smackhead tbh
Post by: U2 on Sunday 4 December 2016, 06:59:09 PM
What the f***ing hell is that :lol:QuoteLara has friends who will never recover from the effects of cannabis, living in hospitals for the rest of their lives. She considers herself extremely lucky to have come back from that place
Seriously, where the f*** they getting their gear :lol:
That was a direct quote from the Chris Morris, which was followed by "With more on the story, Ted Maul reports..."
Post by: Klaus on Sunday 4 December 2016, 07:04:04 PM
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 7 December 2016, 08:15:35 PM
Post by: Northbourne66 on Monday 27 February 2017, 10:30:12 PM
Ive known vivid hallucinations, alice in wonderland type dreams.
Its not something you can do and have any form of lucid conversation. Its a dangerous thing to do. Gas and petrol i cant comment on but the effects appear similar
Massive craze in the eightys
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Monday 27 February 2017, 10:39:27 PM
I am an incredible light weight with drugs (as with alcohol). One or two draws of a joint has been enough for a whole night of entertainment. More and I start to freak out. I tried M-cat which was rubbish, I chatted s*** a bit and gurned a lot. MDMA made me freak out which was a shame as I really wanted to enjoy the stuff. Other than that not really tried anything else.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 1 March 2017, 01:42:37 PM
Looks interesting.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 4 March 2017, 11:25:08 AM
Not sure how you even come up with the idea to give dolphins LSD, but quite an interesting read. But, drugs bad.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 11 March 2017, 08:19:32 PM
:angel:
Post by: Tooj on Monday 3 April 2017, 06:35:17 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/apr/03/john-oliver-marijuana-legalization?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 3 April 2017, 07:13:21 PM
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Oliver then played a recording of Nixon talking about how he thought there was a Jewish conspiracy to legalize the drug in the 70s. The Controlled Substances Act in 1970, which is still in effect and means marijuana is classed as a schedule one drug, the highest possible classification, alongside heroin.
All the motivations laid bare in a couple lines. Racially motivated and no understanding of the drug at all. Only thing missing is the cultural impact. Certainly 60 and 70s America did not want any sort of endorsement or prolonging of the hippy culture that held them to account or otherwise didn't believe in their politics.
Post by: Foluwashola on Tuesday 4 April 2017, 08:34:41 PM
http://www.thekindland.com/wellness/harvard-study-smoking-weed-improves-brain-functions-2330
:angel:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3520257/The-cannabis-smoke-likely-loser-finds-international-study.html
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 07:37:27 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 07:39:18 PM
You would imagine you'd strain it in hot water with it being tea, aye?
Or just smerk it
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 07:41:19 PM
http://www.thekindland.com/wellness/harvard-study-smoking-weed-improves-brain-functions-2330
:angel:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3520257/The-cannabis-smoke-likely-loser-finds-international-study.html
Quite a way to spin it. :lol:
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 08:07:39 PM
:lol: so it just arrived? Madness.
You would imagine you'd strain it in hot water with it being tea, aye?
Or just smerk it
Aye. :lol: New house too so about two people know my address and it wasn't them.
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 08:37:09 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 08:38:59 PM
Post by: Disco on Sunday 9 April 2017, 07:26:52 PM
Becoming more and more an issue in town n all I've noticed n all. Poor folk.
Post by: Open_C on Sunday 9 April 2017, 07:44:49 PM
Post by: Disco on Sunday 9 April 2017, 07:58:29 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 9 April 2017, 08:30:32 PM
Some radical ideas are needed to sort out the homelessness. We've had two deaths in the last 2 weeks, it's f***ing shameful. Don't care what they're taking, to be quite honest with you. I'd take everything I could if I was on the streets. f*** living through that.
Another shining example of the illegalisation of a drug doing exactly nothing to stop the problems created by said drug.
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 9 April 2017, 08:33:01 PM
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/spice-nightmare-manchester-city-centre-12870520
Becoming more and more an issue in town n all I've noticed n all. Poor folk.
Yeah, I've noticed it as well.
Post by: Open_C on Sunday 9 April 2017, 08:57:13 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:26:12 PM
Post by: Open_C on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Granted but I've never seen anything like it before; and it's more that it now seems to be doing the same on the streets which really surprises me
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:32:10 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:34:32 PM
I don't know bluf, having worked in that sort of environment for 20 years that's always my assumption (although i can certainly confirm that in my experience at least some people do indeed take heroin, at least to begin with, because they see other people enjoying it) but i just don't see that many links between the traditional drugs of choice and this one :dontknow: it's so much more desperate and grim and unpredictable and the pure number of people who end up in a seriously bad way after taking it would, I assumed, be enough for people to think, "maybe not this one, no"
Fair enough. :thup:
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Monday 10 April 2017, 05:52:00 AM
Not too dissimilar to M-kat when that came along. Not seen many doing Spice round this way. You'd have to think the prevelance in prisons is linked to there being not too much to do on offer in prisons.
Nothing like that. Mkat is and still is used as a 'party drug'. You didnt have people in that state in a city centre off Mkat.
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 10 April 2017, 10:03:33 AM
Post by: Tooj on Monday 10 April 2017, 10:05:03 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 10 April 2017, 10:44:54 PM
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Psychedelics are very powerful drugs and Dylan admitted accidentally tripping at work when he took too big a microdose.
:lol:
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 09:39:05 AM
The first few days were trippy as hell, but after about 4 days it levelled off and all the clichés started to come true.
There were no crazy visions or anything just a feeling of synchronicity with my entire environment.
I do it again tomorrow if I knew how to get some.
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 09:44:12 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 10:07:38 AM
Going to job interviews, accidentally tripping. :laugh:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 03:55:44 PM
Nutt on the ball, again.
Post by: Jaqen on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 04:34:46 PM
I did an experiment bac in 1996 where I took one microdot every day for 1 month. It was the best times.
The first few days were trippy as hell, but after about 4 days it levelled off and all the clichés started to come true.
There were no crazy visions or anything just a feeling of synchronicity with my entire environment.
I do it again tomorrow if I knew how to get some.
Pushing Taboo ships from Europe and delivers in a few days usually :)
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 13 April 2017, 09:36:40 AM
I received something called Ferimon hemp tea in the post. I didn't order it and have no idea where it came from, but it definitely smells like green. :lol: What is it? How do I use it effectively?
Turns out this was for an elderly guy across the street. He has terminal cancer and has been using this to help him. Was told he had three months to live in August and is still going strong and feels as good as he has done in years. You could tell the guy just wanted some company too. Sat with him for an hour talking about different remedies and his career in the airforce. Lovely man. Hope he pulls through somehow.
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 09:49:44 AM
I received something called Ferimon hemp tea in the post. I didn't order it and have no idea where it came from, but it definitely smells like green. :lol: What is it? How do I use it effectively?
Turns out this was for an elderly guy across the street. He has terminal cancer and has been using this to help him. Was told he had three months to live in August and is still going strong and feels as good as he has done in years. You could tell the guy just wanted some company too. Sat with him for an hour talking about different remedies and his career in the airforce. Lovely man. Hope he pulls through somehow.
That's a nice story.
Especially since I thought you were going to say you smoked his medicine and he died.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:00:26 AM
But top marks to you, we ignore the elderly too much.
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:07:05 AM
Sounds f***ing grim. :lol:
But top marks to you, we ignore the elderly too much.
I know what you're saying. I feel the same, confronted with an opportunity to share some time with the elderly, I'd rather mince my eyeballs.
But this little vignette has fondly reminded me of some of the great oldies I have met in my time.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:12:30 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:19:19 AM
"Eeeh, Kanye. Now there was a character."
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:35:14 AM
Although, their stories are often of a horrific world war :undecided:
Nah, most don't actually talk about the war, in my experience. What they give is an insight into how life carries on even in the face of such atrocities.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:38:32 AM
I feel for the youth of today, mind. Because I can't think what fascinating stories my generation will have to share.2016 has enough stories on its own. Absolutely loads has happened. The big ones are probably our generation being both pre and post internet, 9/11, The global financial crisis, Trump, Brexit They're pretty much our Telephone, Pearl Harbor/The Blitz, The Great Depression, and Reagan (?) right there. Imo we're also likely to be a generation that had a form of prohibition as well.
"Eeeh, Kanye. Now there was a character."
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:41:30 AM
I also almost bought way too much stuff in the shops having only taken a tenner out with me. I just walked out and left it at the self-checkout cause I couldn't be arsed. My bacon rolls were a delight though.
Post by: B-more Mag on Tuesday 25 April 2017, 09:37:02 PM
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 25 April 2017, 09:39:30 PM
http://interactive.fusion.net/death-by-fentanyl/
Post by: B-more Mag on Tuesday 25 April 2017, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 May 2017, 05:08:39 PM
When will the pennies drop.
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 14 May 2017, 01:49:06 PM
Post by: Tooj on Monday 22 May 2017, 06:09:22 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 06:10:26 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 07:17:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiNwrY-dSA
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 07:19:42 PM
This accurate ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiNwrY-dSA
It's not a bad effort, but no. Like it says at the beginning, literally impossible to replicate a trip as they're different for everyone and each time.
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 22 May 2017, 07:55:18 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:01:11 PM
It's horrible when it gets too heavy. Definitely had that experience too, like I say, no bad effort. It just seems too generalised though, but admittedly I didn't watch the whole thing. I mean, there's actual hallucinations that can go on, not just colours blending and swaying.
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:02:43 PM
I totally got that kaleidoscope s*** last time I did shrooms, had to lie down in my tent in the foetal position for a few hours til it wore off
I wonder if looking into a kaleidoscope would've altered your state back to normal, enabling you to continue to strut your stuff on the grassy rave hill.
hmmmmm food for thought.
Post by: thomas on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:08:26 PM
:lol:had ones where it's like
It's horrible when it gets too heavy. Definitely had that experience too, like I say, no bad effort. It just seems too generalised though, but admittedly I didn't watch the whole thing. I mean, there's actual hallucinations that can go on, not just colours blending and swaying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foxD6ZQlnlU
then I sit up and realize the pattern of the fractal I 'fell down' was just the fibers of the rug and I've been laying face down and bug-eyed for 15 minutes in complete silence staring at the floor
Post by: thomas on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:09:16 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:10:39 PM
EDITL The shrooms vid, not thomas's.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:18:57 PM
:lol:had ones where it's like
It's horrible when it gets too heavy. Definitely had that experience too, like I say, no bad effort. It just seems too generalised though, but admittedly I didn't watch the whole thing. I mean, there's actual hallucinations that can go on, not just colours blending and swaying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foxD6ZQlnlU
then I sit up and realize the pattern of the fractal I 'fell down' was just the fibers of the rug and I've been laying face down and bug-eyed for 15 minutes in complete silence staring at the floor
That's splendid. :lol:
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:20:39 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.
Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:24:18 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.
Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.
So long as you have someone with you you'll be absolutely fine, like. All the cliche's that you hear about it are completely true, like. It's totally life-changing in terms of your outlook.
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:25:40 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.
Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.
Don't do it in a graveyard.
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:34:15 PM
Think i''ll probably work up to acid with shrooms first. Had magic truffles in amsterdam (very low dose) though i'm not quite sure how much of the effects were down to truffles or the MDMA turning in to MDA, which i'd also had that night.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:34:37 PM
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:35:24 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.
Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.
So long as you have someone with you you'll be absolutely fine, like. All the cliche's that you hear about it are completely true, like. It's totally life-changing in terms of your outlook.
100% this. I've done it twice and I absolutely loved it. Couldn't stop laughing on one of the experiences.
Perfect relaxed setting with mates and good music. It lasts a few while though.
Setting and friends is key like. Wouldn't want to be on Acid roaming hectic streets solo like :lol:
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:37:30 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:37:34 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.
Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.
So long as you have someone with you you'll be absolutely fine, like. All the cliche's that you hear about it are completely true, like. It's totally life-changing in terms of your outlook.
:smitten:
I'm always wary of suggesting to take something, but what I can say is, I too had these fears. To the extent I was vehemently anti-drugs at one point, making up stories about people I knew having terrible effects. Remarkably, to a group of friends I'd hung out with since I was 10 years old and knew I was talking pure utter s****. Just more myths added to the layers. But can't argue at all with what you've said, it's absolutely mind-altering in terms of perception and empathy. It's not for everyone, but in terms of hallucinogens, as long as you've got your good people around you, you're fine. It's generally not like taking an unknown pill, passed through dealer to dealer, with cutting and bullshit. This is the central reason we need drugs legalised and regulated. People ARE going to take them so wouldn't you prefer they were safe? That doesn't mean ALL drugs (although that is my personal argument), but weed and hallucinogens (including MDMA), definitely.
Bad trips come from bad vibes around you, an anxiety that snowballs out of control. I've had some really bad times, it happens to the best of us, and funnily enough my first 'trip' was a disaster. Spent the night in a corner, sitting in a chair, wary to leave because I didn't know some of the people waltzing around the house. Second time was pure:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/26ufdipQqU2lhNA4g/giphy.gif)
Utterly literally. I'd never realised how held back, repressed I was. It was this that led me to abandon many of my rightwing leanings (I was a bit of a Brit' Nationalist for a time). Remember listening to Aphex Twin, and my head bobbing about thinking it was in a pinball machine. Leaving the room, looking into the hall and it seemed about ten miles long. I miss that specific experience so much. :(
I did go on to do too much though and some more bad experiences involving sellotaping knives to my wall so I didn't do something naughty. Taking it sparingly now and it's a constant pleasure.
Post by: Tooj on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:51:57 PM
Might have mentioned it before, but one of the lads my mate went to Leeds festival with had DMT and was shouting at people walking towards one of the stages to 'turn back... tha killing us' as he thought they were being marched into a concentration campProper thick as f*** doing something as powerful as DMT in that environment like.
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 22 May 2017, 09:27:23 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 09:35:34 PM
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 24 May 2017, 08:57:08 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/23/study-hallucinogenic-mushrooms-safest-recreational-drug-lsd?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Post by: louistoon on Thursday 25 May 2017, 04:43:43 PM
This accurate ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiNwrY-dSA
It's not a bad effort, but no. Like it says at the beginning, literally impossible to replicate a trip as they're different for everyone and each time.
I'd say its pretty accurate. Obvs each trip is different but if I were to amalgamate all of my trips into a 5 minute video then I'd say thats pretty much it.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 May 2017, 02:33:36 PM
Post by: Tooj on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:04:33 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:09:47 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:33:28 PM
Post by: Troll on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:57:31 PM
They really should do like, no way Glasgow can be unique in this. I don't understand the biology (if that's the right term to use, probably not :lol:) behind their growth, but believe it's something to do with the base they grow on. So if they grew once, they'll grow again in the same place unless it's all uplifted or destroyed.
Mushrooms are just the fruit of the fungus. The rest of the organism is underground.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 May 2017, 06:10:02 PM
They're pretty distinctive. Once you know what you're getting, can't go wrong.
Post by: HTT on Sunday 28 May 2017, 08:25:01 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 28 May 2017, 08:48:22 PM
Post by: HTT on Monday 29 May 2017, 07:34:16 PM
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 29 May 2017, 08:50:02 PM
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Post by: HTT on Monday 29 May 2017, 08:59:15 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Tuesday 30 May 2017, 12:04:37 AM
An hour to recover from a few drags on a jigga? Sounds like you need to build up your tolerance.
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 30 May 2017, 06:03:00 PM
Was a canny sized joint ha ha and to be fair, I've never smoked the s*** in 20 years or so and haven't had a tab in 8 years or so. I was coughing my guts up yesterday like and I'm so glad I'm off that kind of stuff. Was funny though, got the giggles and munchies and felt canny mellow, but over thought which I do anyway and ended up with my head battered.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 02:18:34 PM
http://www.talkingdrugs.org/france-stop-prosecuting-cannabis-possession
Post by: summerof69 on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 02:23:29 PM
The dominoes continue to fall. First HTT, then France:
http://www.talkingdrugs.org/france-stop-prosecuting-cannabis-possession
Corbyn next with a late manifesto pledge, please.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 06:23:20 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 06:31:22 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-silkroad-idUSKBN18R23A
Without those murders... :whistle:
Post by: newsted on Thursday 15 June 2017, 08:52:02 PM
Drugs in warfare. Soljaz been off their tits forever.
Post by: Troll on Thursday 15 June 2017, 09:24:31 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 6 July 2017, 06:42:51 PM
The first-ever clinical trial researching #MDMA combined with psychotherapy to treat #alcoholism is explored by @UPI https://t.co/uaM8A3yo2H pic.twitter.com/PtCm5ELYJB
— MAPS (@MAPS) July 6, 2017
Nice to see some out of the box thinking. :icon_salut:
Post by: Troll on Thursday 6 July 2017, 07:31:09 PM
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 6 July 2017, 07:41:29 PM
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 6 July 2017, 08:18:45 PM
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Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 6 July 2017, 08:49:16 PM
That's one way of doing it.My alcoholic mate used to go canny hard on mdma and other class As as a sort of self-prescribed thing. The only thing it really did was expertly conceal his alcoholism from everyone. It was years before it dawned on anyone that he was an alcoholic because the natural concern when there was any was with his intake of class As.
Post by: Slim on Friday 7 July 2017, 01:59:10 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 9 July 2017, 04:58:34 PM
Post by: Tooj on Friday 14 July 2017, 08:28:29 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 14 July 2017, 06:15:36 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/money/how-smoking-weed-can-you-10796231
They start evicting you for smoking cannabis. :lol:
Post by: Charlies on Monday 24 July 2017, 10:47:10 PM
Hansa, one of the biggest black markets of the darkweb, has been in the hands of the Dutch police for a month now. It's a mega attack for the police, which starts a search for buyers and sellers on the site.
At the same time, the FBI announces that Alphabay, the largest black market of the darkweb, has been rolled up. This website, including drugs and weapons, has not been available since 6 July.
Together with the FBI, the Dutch police have taken action: by keeping Hansa in the air last month, many Alphabay users flew to Hansa. In this way, the police wanted to gather as much information as possible about buyers and sellers.
'People need to worry'
At Hansa, the police switched off the encryption that users initially thought were safe to communicate with each other. They exchanged addresses, for example, to send drugs.
"A lot of people can take care of the coming time," said Martijn Egberts, prosecutor. He emphasizes that both buyers and sellers will be addressed, but will focus on people behind orders of, for example, 'more than 90 pills'.
By a security company's tip, the police found the location of Hansa's server, which eventually turned out to be in Lithuania. The server has been seized. It also seized 1000 bit coins with a value of 2 million euros.
Arrests
There have now been four drug dealers in the Netherlands and in the near future, the police are trying to identify more buyers and sellers. "A wealth of information obtained will be further investigated in the coming period," said the spokesman.
Over 50,000 orders have been made at Hansa last month, especially for soft and hard drugs. The police emphasize that it has not sold drugs itself, but only offered the platform. This was done to collect as much information from buyers and sellers as possible.
Source: rtlz.nl
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 03:06:19 PM
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/18/the-history-channel-is-finally-telling-the-stunning-secret-story-of-the-war-on-drugs/
I've been recording them and got round to watching the first three in the last couple of days. Really excellent stuff that I'd highly recommend.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 03:08:34 PM
Read more promising stuff about Ketamine and depression today. Wish they'd get a move on. :whistle:
Post by: Jaqen on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 08:25:13 PM
For anyone who may be interested, didn't even know bay was down.
Hansa, one of the biggest black markets of the darkweb, has been in the hands of the Dutch police for a month now. It's a mega attack for the police, which starts a search for buyers and sellers on the site.
At the same time, the FBI announces that Alphabay, the largest black market of the darkweb, has been rolled up. This website, including drugs and weapons, has not been available since 6 July.
Together with the FBI, the Dutch police have taken action: by keeping Hansa in the air last month, many Alphabay users flew to Hansa. In this way, the police wanted to gather as much information as possible about buyers and sellers.
'People need to worry'
At Hansa, the police switched off the encryption that users initially thought were safe to communicate with each other. They exchanged addresses, for example, to send drugs.
"A lot of people can take care of the coming time," said Martijn Egberts, prosecutor. He emphasizes that both buyers and sellers will be addressed, but will focus on people behind orders of, for example, 'more than 90 pills'.
By a security company's tip, the police found the location of Hansa's server, which eventually turned out to be in Lithuania. The server has been seized. It also seized 1000 bit coins with a value of 2 million euros.
Arrests
There have now been four drug dealers in the Netherlands and in the near future, the police are trying to identify more buyers and sellers. "A wealth of information obtained will be further investigated in the coming period," said the spokesman.
Over 50,000 orders have been made at Hansa last month, especially for soft and hard drugs. The police emphasize that it has not sold drugs itself, but only offered the platform. This was done to collect as much information from buyers and sellers as possible.
Source: rtlz.nl
To add to this, several dream vendors have listed the PGP key of the Dutch National Police on their profile on Dream market.
Seems like they've probably managed to infiltrate a number of markets through their work on Hansa. Seems a bit daft to blatantly list their own PGP key for the compromised vendors but I guess it will cause enough panic and suspicion to put off a lot of buyers regardless. Apparently they've used beacon images in xlsx files which a number of the biggest vendors opened without completely protecting themselves and exposed their IP address. Going to be some serious years getting dished out :lol:
Post by: Charlies on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 11:13:58 PM
For anyone who may be interested, didn't even know bay was down.
Hansa, one of the biggest black markets of the darkweb, has been in the hands of the Dutch police for a month now. It's a mega attack for the police, which starts a search for buyers and sellers on the site.
At the same time, the FBI announces that Alphabay, the largest black market of the darkweb, has been rolled up. This website, including drugs and weapons, has not been available since 6 July.
Together with the FBI, the Dutch police have taken action: by keeping Hansa in the air last month, many Alphabay users flew to Hansa. In this way, the police wanted to gather as much information as possible about buyers and sellers.
'People need to worry'
At Hansa, the police switched off the encryption that users initially thought were safe to communicate with each other. They exchanged addresses, for example, to send drugs.
"A lot of people can take care of the coming time," said Martijn Egberts, prosecutor. He emphasizes that both buyers and sellers will be addressed, but will focus on people behind orders of, for example, 'more than 90 pills'.
By a security company's tip, the police found the location of Hansa's server, which eventually turned out to be in Lithuania. The server has been seized. It also seized 1000 bit coins with a value of 2 million euros.
Arrests
There have now been four drug dealers in the Netherlands and in the near future, the police are trying to identify more buyers and sellers. "A wealth of information obtained will be further investigated in the coming period," said the spokesman.
Over 50,000 orders have been made at Hansa last month, especially for soft and hard drugs. The police emphasize that it has not sold drugs itself, but only offered the platform. This was done to collect as much information from buyers and sellers as possible.
Source: rtlz.nl
To add to this, several dream vendors have listed the PGP key of the Dutch National Police on their profile on Dream market.
Seems like they've probably managed to infiltrate a number of markets through their work on Hansa. Seems a bit daft to blatantly list their own PGP key for the compromised vendors but I guess it will cause enough panic and suspicion to put off a lot of buyers regardless. Apparently they've used beacon images in xlsx files which a number of the biggest vendors opened without completely protecting themselves and exposed their IP address. Going to be some serious years getting dished out :lol:
There's going to be quite a few nervous people now :lol:
More on aplhabay closure here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/07/20/dark-web-drugs-to-suicide-accused-alexandre-cazes/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwi-kY2M-6fVAhUKDMAKHb4xAxMQFghHMA0&usg=AFQjCNHv35UhwYrpCB6LCzf3cxN7dIufgQ&cf=1
Guy was apparently worth $26 million, but 'hung himself' in a Thai jail a few days after arrest...
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 01:49:28 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 30 July 2017, 03:33:23 PM
In contrast, LSD usually lasts anywhere between 7-14 hours, more if you can't sleep. Which is a nightmare if you're not enjoying yourself...
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:27:09 PM
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:31:01 PM
Shrooms are weird like, the last time I did them wasn't great as I had to lie in a tent taking in the annoying kaleidoscopes but had some good times too.
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:32:12 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:34:29 PM
Good times ? Really ? I find it hard to imagine what a good trip would be like.
Spending four hours looking at the picture below and dying of laughter for no good reason.
(https://pics.me.me/look-at-goofys-fuckin-stance-8-13-pm-hes-gonna-hyuck-22855843.png)
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:36:43 PM
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 31 July 2017, 04:17:41 AM
So i'm back. Didn't really enjoy myself, possibly the worst experience of my life actually. Still trying to make sense of it all. For a while I really wasn't sure where I began and everything else ended. Didn't learn too much about myself which I was disappointed with. Though there's not much difference between reality and imagination.
made me think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGf2loLAwVE
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 July 2017, 02:15:26 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 31 July 2017, 02:34:22 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 July 2017, 02:38:31 PM
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 31 July 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Starting to worry about my friend, he hasn't really recovered since yesterday and has just gone home early from work
:undecided:
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 12 October 2017, 08:48:17 AM
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 12:22:14 AM
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Sunday 29 October 2017, 01:36:57 AM
I had a lot of great times taking all sorts with my mates years ago.. but towards the end it was s***. Maybe thats just where my life was in general. Drugs definitely opened my mind.. but as father of 2 kids I wouldnt speak about my past to my kids and I certainly wouldnt allow it in any form.
Would I do it again? Probably.
For the record though.. If you have problems it will only make them worse. Maybes mask them for a while.. but they will always come back further down the line. Lost a lot of good friends a long the way.
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 October 2017, 11:55:16 AM
Post by: AfroP on Monday 30 October 2017, 10:18:34 AM
That video was decent in terms of who he spoke to, but he seemed a bit too keen to push the really blinkered cannabis being a gateway drug nonsense. That woman saying she'd rather her kids took heroin than smoked skunk as well, obviously insanely influenced by the work that she solely concentrates on.
Something seriously wrong if a parent would rather see their kid smacked off their tits and in that horrible cycle of addiction than puffing a bit weed.
Shows just how poorly educated people actually are and how ignorant
I wouldn't wish heroin addiction on my worse enemy
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 30 October 2017, 10:32:30 AM
Not watched it, but if that was indeed said, they should be locked up for child endangerment. No wonder our drug laws are amongst some of the worst in the developed world, with an electorate made up that idiocy.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 30 October 2017, 11:01:26 AM
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 30 October 2017, 11:36:45 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 30 October 2017, 03:05:24 PM
Worth considering what might have led her to this conclusion.
All I can think is that she is comparing Heroin in it's purest form to Cannabis in it's worst.
Pure heroin/morphine/opium, administered correctly, isn't really dangerous at all. For the record, 'administered correctly' covers all the arguments about addiction, overdose and impurities.
Pure cannabis is just as harmless, if less complicated, but if you are the type to smoke it in a joint with tobacco, you increase the long term dangers.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 30 October 2017, 03:08:58 PM
She's oversimplifying it quite clearly. Probably a "heroin just gets you addicted, you can get past that, but weed will destroy your mind! :frantic:" I've known people who have destroyed themselves with weed, but they were also on SSRIs, from dodgy backgrounds, or predisposed to mental illness in the first place.
I do not, however, accept smoking weed will give you these problems when you've never had these problems to begin with. Problem is when you've got mid-teens starting it (which I do think is too early having smoked from that age myself), so it's difficult to know what their mental journey was going to be. If that makes sense.
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 30 October 2017, 03:16:59 PM
Again, without seeing it, I think she's probably falling into the trap that weed creates mental illness. Now I don't doubt it does with certain people, but these people might have gone the same way but in a different form if they'd tanned drink or smoked opium (as in, they always had that potential to go a bit mental)
She's oversimplifying it quite clearly. Probably a "heroin just gets you addicted, you can get past that, but weed will destroy your mind! :frantic:" I've known people who have destroyed themselves with weed, but they were also on SSRIs, from dodgy backgrounds, or predisposed to mental illness in the first place.
Ok I'm gonna watch it.
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 30 October 2017, 04:08:32 PM
Not the kind of thing you want to tell the world in a BBC documentary, but I can see it working to a degree.
Just read your bit about youngsters and I agree. Definite dangers with taking mind altering substances, whilst the mind is still developing.
Although I can't deny a morbid fascination in the experimental possibilities. Imagine if every child from this day forward was given a dose of ayahuasca in the womb.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 30 October 2017, 04:58:09 PM
I'm by no means some "weeeeed is fine mayyyn" guy like, it's blatantly not in your best interest to be hammering buckets every morning, but you can say that about anything. It will take over and ruin a small number of people's lives (whether they would have ruined their lives in another manner is debatable) but we take those liberties with probably the majority of things in the modern world.
As for youngsters they'll more than likely be off it altogether or smoking it only occasionally by the time they're in their 20s from my experience, it probably has some impact, but again, those same bairns are going to be downing bottles of Bella and smoking 10 a day anyway.
Post by: The Little Waster on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 10:31:31 PM
You would think Newcastle was Columbia when you go out now.. been in working mens clubs and seen cues for the cubicles. Even worse in the town when you get people who couldnt f*** off full of charlie.
Kill them kill them all ...
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 13 November 2017, 06:47:08 PM
And the rest of the world is finally catching up with us stupid druggies.
Post by: thomas on Monday 13 November 2017, 10:04:10 PM
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The drug, which causes users to vomit or 'purge' before inducing hallucinations, is brewed by boiling stems of the ayahuasca vine with leaves from the chacruna plant. Chacruna contains the potent potent psychedelic compound dimethyltryptamine, better known as DMT, an illegal class A drug in the UK.Haven't taken it but I understand that's a "purge" like no other.
Also just get your hands on some acid.
Post by: summerof69 on Wednesday 15 November 2017, 10:18:31 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 18 November 2017, 05:10:01 PM
Can't believe this debate is even happening. Quite horrific a baby has died, but it has zero relevance to the debate on whether weed should be smoked, legal or not.
Post by: AfroP on Monday 20 November 2017, 12:16:50 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/marijuana-overdose-baby-colorado-dr-christopher-hoyte-dr-thomas-nappe-a8062256.html
Can't believe this debate is even happening. Quite horrific a baby has died, but it has zero relevance to the debate on whether weed should be smoked, legal or not.
reading the comments it seems the doctors may not be telling the whole story and simply blaming cannabis.
it all happened in 2015
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 20 November 2017, 11:57:46 PM
https://inews.co.uk/explainers/can-think-neighbours-smoking-cannabis/
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 12:12:13 AM
Admittedly the smell can be a pain in the arse, but be a grown up and f***ing tell them and see what you can do to work it out.
Post by: AfroP on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 03:28:13 PM
What the f***?
https://inews.co.uk/explainers/can-think-neighbours-smoking-cannabis/
there was a very similar(probably the same)article on the chronicle site.
absolutely disgraceful. me sitting in my living room having a bit smoke, with a wax burner on to help counter the smell. minding my own business not bothering or hurting anyone. next door neighbor getting p*ssed as f***, stinking the place out with tabs and braying on his front door to get let in when p*ssed. and he can report me. but i cant say feck all to him.
thats not right
Post by: Rumpelstiltskin Solano on Thursday 14 December 2017, 03:04:45 PM
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 14 December 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Post by: Troll on Thursday 14 December 2017, 03:35:22 PM
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 14 December 2017, 04:01:44 PM
More likely to be the illness causing it than the medication.
Is that a common effect of the illness in elderly people? Or is it something of particular concern, in your view?
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 14 December 2017, 04:06:52 PM
Post by: Troll on Thursday 14 December 2017, 09:28:29 PM
More likely to be the illness causing it than the medication.
Is that a common effect of the illness in elderly people? Or is it something of particular concern, in your view?
It's a common symptom of fever, which usually presents with pneumonia.
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 14 December 2017, 09:30:29 PM
More likely to be the illness causing it than the medication.
Is that a common effect of the illness in elderly people? Or is it something of particular concern, in your view?
It's a common symptom of fever, which usually presents with pneumonia.
Thanks. To be honest, just knowing that it's likely stemming from the pneumonia and not the medication has been reassuring to know (until a doctor can confirm) for myself and my mam, so thank you.
Post by: Slim on Thursday 14 December 2017, 10:19:59 PM
Post by: cubaricho on Friday 15 December 2017, 06:07:02 AM
Love 'em O0
:lol:
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 15 December 2017, 09:17:26 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#
How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?
Post by: Charlies on Saturday 16 December 2017, 08:15:09 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#
How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?
Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor. But who knows.
The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 December 2017, 09:45:58 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 17 December 2017, 12:01:48 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#
How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?
Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor. But who knows.
The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.
:thup:
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 17 December 2017, 12:19:29 AM
Start that documentary man " 59 people died last year" 59 out of 65.64 Mil is really f*** all
Every f***er in the country isn't mashed on pills though.
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 17 December 2017, 10:46:26 AM
Post by: hakka on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:09:58 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#
How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?
Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor. But who knows.
The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.
:thup:
I still only take a half of any new pill and see how I go. It's so difficult to know if it's strong, average or even if it's MDMA. I've taken ecstasy since 2000, quality was more consistent and cleaner back then, over the years it got weaker as pills got cheaper, and from around 2009 when that mephedrone/legal highs were doing the rounds, getting a quality pill was very difficult. There was a shift to buying pure MDMA crystals as at least then you could get away from the randomness of it and get what you want. Seems last few years there's been a resurgence of more expensive and strong pills, but with random degrees of strong. Definitely think this is causing the surge in pill deaths of late, as for many years you never heard of any across the country.
Funnily enough, thinking back to 2000 sort of era, people in clubs really looked after those that were new to pills. There was a lot of awareness about not over doing it, drinking water, resting, looking out for each other... it was part of why going out back then, the culture and making friends was class. These days in clubs if someone got themselves in a state they become a target for WUM's and laughs. Shame really, but think that respecting that a drug is dangerous and you have to take it slowy and responsibly is being lost.
It's different in other countries mind, I bought a pill in Amsterdam in 2016 at huge rave for 5 euro. The dude said careful, these are strong. It was big, like a shield shape, pink and almost size of my thumbnail. I broke it in to 1/3's and shared with 2 others. Had to be the cleanest and floatiest high I've had in over 10 years. None of the lethargic sleepy feelings, just happy and floating around. Lasted the whole night, didn't need any more at all. Slept fine in the morning for a few hours and felt champion the day after. God knows what difference was in MDMA production but it was so much cleaner than what we get over here.
Post by: Slim on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:19:15 PM
I always get my stuff from Holland and its rare I even get a comedown now. Difference is dealers are trying to outdo each other on quality.
Post by: Charlies on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:46:08 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#
How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?
Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor. But who knows.
The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.
:thup:
I still only take a half of any new pill and see how I go. It's so difficult to know if it's strong, average or even if it's MDMA. I've taken ecstasy since 2000, quality was more consistent and cleaner back then, over the years it got weaker as pills got cheaper, and from around 2009 when that mephedrone/legal highs were doing the rounds, getting a quality pill was very difficult. There was a shift to buying pure MDMA crystals as at least then you could get away from the randomness of it and get what you want. Seems last few years there's been a resurgence of more expensive and strong pills, but with random degrees of strong. Definitely think this is causing the surge in pill deaths of late, as for many years you never heard of any across the country.
Funnily enough, thinking back to 2000 sort of era, people in clubs really looked after those that were new to pills. There was a lot of awareness about not over doing it, drinking water, resting, looking out for each other... it was part of why going out back then, the culture and making friends was class. These days in clubs if someone got themselves in a state they become a target for WUM's and laughs. Shame really, but think that respecting that a drug is dangerous and you have to take it slowy and responsibly is being lost.
It's different in other countries mind, I bought a pill in Amsterdam in 2016 at huge rave for 5 euro. The dude said careful, these are strong. It was big, like a shield shape, pink and almost size of my thumbnail. I broke it in to 1/3's and shared with 2 others. Had to be the cleanest and floatiest high I've had in over 10 years. None of the lethargic sleepy feelings, just happy and floating around. Lasted the whole night, didn't need any more at all. Slept fine in the morning for a few hours and felt champion the day after. God knows what difference was in MDMA production but it was so much cleaner than what we get over here.
:thup:
The early 2000's were great in respect to the quality pills, those lovely MDA/MDMA combinations. Lovely.I believe the surge in the rc scene came just after the biggest safrole oil bust (to that date) which caused the MDMA drought, resulting in all those shitty piperzine pills & no doubt causing a surge in deaths. Mephedrone really took off at this time because it mimics the effect of the good s***, It was ok/cheap when it first came out (if you didn't mind smelling like cat p*ss for a few days) but it turned out to be significantly more addictive & harmful in the long run.
Your right about the clubs too. That feeling of just love between everyone, chatting s*** to random people used to be glorious that & seeing glasses & beards everywhere :aww: seems like thats all gone now. I see people now showing off dd'ing pills I know are strong as f***, I mean granted you'll be munted but I f***ing doubt it'll be enjoyable not knowing what the hell is going on & festering in a corner the whole night.
Post by: Charlies on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:55:39 PM
I have not bought anything off a dealer for nearly 6-7 years. I use forums on DarkWeb to check out actual lab results so I get the full breakdown and quantity and quality of MDMA.
I always get my stuff from Holland and its rare I even get a comedown now. Difference is dealers are trying to outdo each other on quality.
I used to do exactly the same but lost a fair bit of bc due to sites being closed & stupidly having coin in my site wallet, I shudder to think about it when I see the price of it now.
Aint used it for a while, quality & price cannot be beaten locally thats for sure. Saying that the best pills I've for a while came from a uk source (dark web) rainbow drops, little but clean only popped up in the uk so I'd assume they were made here.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 17 December 2017, 02:26:07 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:05:19 PM
Another country doing smart things. Obviously we won't though. Repeat after me, WAR ON DRUGS. WAR ON DRUGS.
Post by: AfroP on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:14:19 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/norway-parliament-drugs-decriminalise-recreational-cocaine-heroin-marijuana-a8111761.html
Another country doing smart things. Obviously we won't though. Repeat after me, WAR ON DRUGS. WAR ON DRUGS.
WE MUST STOP THIS DEMON SKUNK DRUG THATS KILLING OUR CHILDREN AND FORCING PEOPLE TO ROB AND BE SCUMMY CHARVA'S!!
REPORT YOUR NEIGHBORS AND YOUR FRIENDS TO THE POLICE!!! :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:19:56 PM
Start that documentary man " 59 people died last year" 59 out of 65.64 Mil is really f*** all
:lol: :lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:27:41 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/norway-parliament-drugs-decriminalise-recreational-cocaine-heroin-marijuana-a8111761.html
Another country doing smart things. Obviously we won't though. Repeat after me, WAR ON DRUGS. WAR ON DRUGS.
WE MUST STOP THIS DEMON SKUNK DRUG THATS KILLING OUR CHILDREN AND FORCING PEOPLE TO ROB AND BE SCUMMY CHARVA'S!!
REPORT YOUR NEIGHBORS AND YOUR FRIENDS TO THE POLICE!!! :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
Gateway drug~!~!~! :frantic:
I loved that one. If there is such a thing as a gateway drug, or substance, it's f***ing alcohol. I notice they don't use it much anymore though, because it's been thoroughly debunked.
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:58:41 PM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 03:53:35 PM
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 07:33:05 PM
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 07:50:00 PM
So is it safe to buy online? Seems mental :lol: Putting the Special in Special Delivery :lol:
I find this concept barmy too tbh :lol:
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 07:55:58 PM
So is it safe to buy online? Seems mental :lol: Putting the Special in Special Delivery :lol:
Relatively so I'd say, never had any issues what so ever. They normally disguise whatever in a phone case/dvd case or such, aslong as your not buying shitloads that is :lol:
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:35:50 PM
So is it safe to buy online? Seems mental :lol: Putting the Special in Special Delivery :lol:
Relatively so I'd say, never had any issues what so ever. They normally disguise whatever in a phone case/dvd case or such, aslong as your not buying shitloads that is :lol:
Cool. But you pay extra for this fancy packaging?
Guess you could always :dontknow: when the law comes.
Also, I'd probably have to vpn and go to a part of the Web I really don't want to?
The pricing for postage varies but I'd usually end up paying ~5-7£ obviously depends on weight / size. A vpn would be advisable yes.
I've only ever stuck to the drug market places on the dark web, reddit can be good to find out the best ones. You'll also need to dl tor. Its all easy to do just make sure you read up about it before jumping in feet first.
Post by: Jaqen on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:50:26 PM
I love the thought of a pill turning up in the post. But it sounds like too much effort for a lazy f***er like me.
I'll give it some thought, though :thup:
:thup:
It's canny easy once you get the hang of it but thats also the problem, things like coke / ket / lsd / pills are cheap as f*** and in general really good quality. Obviously this can lead to unwanted problems addiction & such, you know when you go on shopping sprees on ebay amazon or whatever while p*ssed well it can end up like that but with class a's appearing a few days later.
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:52:17 PM
Never had a problem ordering online either. Works out cheaper and you know what you’re getting.
:thup:
Used to be more scared meeting dealers & ending up with s**** half the time.
Post by: Troll on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 09:20:55 PM
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:01:45 AM
Only used it for weed, but it's really easy. All you do is download Tor, register at a marketplace, and transfer in some bitcoin. After that it's just like using Amazon. It's always well-packaged and vacuum sealed - there's no smell and no way you'd get caught unless the postie was actually opening your mail.
Best to stick to UK people if you can. So I've heard.
Otherwise you might end up with a polite letter from the border force. Again, so I've heard.
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:27:19 PM
Excellent.
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:28:14 PM
Only used it for weed, but it's really easy. All you do is download Tor, register at a marketplace, and transfer in some bitcoin. After that it's just like using Amazon. It's always well-packaged and vacuum sealed - there's no smell and no way you'd get caught unless the postie was actually opening your mail.
Best to stick to UK people if you can. So I've heard.
Otherwise you might end up with a polite letter from the border force. Again, so I've heard.
I only ever ordered from the UK, but mainly for the delivery time - it was often next day delivery.
Post by: henke on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:31:51 PM
How on earth you get caught with hundreds of pills and avoid jail is beyond me like. Have to say I'm glad it did happen.
Post by: AfroP on Monday 1 January 2018, 01:24:01 PM
Recreational use now allowed in California.
Can be holding an ounce and grow 6 plants.
Industry expected to total 5.8billion dollars by 2021
And here we are in the UK still demonising it in the press and not even talking about medical use
Post by: Slim on Monday 1 January 2018, 05:17:20 PM
It isn't risk free. A kid I know is on a suspended sentence, by the skin of his f***ing teeth, after customs rumbled him and a few of his pals. Google ecstasy and Carlisle crown court if you're interested, around last June.
How on earth you get caught with hundreds of pills and avoid jail is beyond me like. Have to say I'm glad it did happen.
LOL well yeah having a few hundred pills is obviously risky as f***. Think what me and most people are talking about is the police ain't going to come after you for a few g.
Especially how hard it is to prove you ordered them and the resources they have now.
Post by: summerof69 on Tuesday 9 January 2018, 08:08:21 PM
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Post by: Flip on Thursday 11 January 2018, 06:13:43 AM
Can we keep discussion of using the Dark web to procure illegal substances strictly to PMs please, f***ing hell. :lol:
:lol:
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 January 2018, 06:22:28 PM
Another nation, smart things etc.
Post by: Hudson on Thursday 11 January 2018, 07:02:19 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42532776
Recreational use now allowed in California.
Can be holding an ounce and grow 6 plants.
Industry expected to total 5.8billion dollars by 2021
And here we are in the UK still demonising it in the press and not even talking about medical use
It's been looked at in the house of commons under the 10 minute rule, expect it to be ready post brexit
https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2017-19/legalisationofcannabismedicinalpurposes.html
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 January 2018, 07:04:03 PM
Post by: Hudson on Thursday 11 January 2018, 07:08:04 PM
As much as the push for medical use is good an all, it distracts from the fact we should be allowed to buy, smoke and have weed for recreational use. I'd imagine us getting to the point of medical weed, then sitting on our arse and acting like we've achieved something.
We will just end up like Cali and it's medical use
"Hi doc i cannot sleep can you give me a medical note for weed"
"Yeah thast £50 please"
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 January 2018, 11:25:01 PM
Moving on. Does anyone here eat their weed? I don't mean that as crudely as the question is framed, obviously in cakes and what not, but just want to gauge some experiences. I got given a few cupcakes for christmas off the in-laws, and I'll be honest, didn't think much of it. I'd previously once ingested weed in my teens, I used to burn pollen or more likely resin into yogurts and that, well, that floored me. I remember still being stoned well into Monday morning at school. :shifty:
Post by: Troll on Friday 12 January 2018, 02:42:19 AM
Agree with that. We're the epitome of half-arsed reform and progression.
Moving on. Does anyone here eat their weed? I don't mean that as crudely as the question is framed, obviously in cakes and what not, but just want to gauge some experiences. I got given a few cupcakes for christmas off the in-laws, and I'll be honest, didn't think much of it. I'd previously once ingested weed in my teens, I used to burn pollen or more likely resin into yogurts and that, well, that floored me. I remember still being stoned well into Monday morning at school. :shifty:
I just ordered some online (COMPLETELY LEGALLY DAVE) so I'll report back once I've tried them. My previous experiences with them have varied, but I think it'll be easier to judge when they come from a proper dispensary.
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 12 January 2018, 11:12:36 PM
Agree with that. We're the epitome of half-arsed reform and progression.
Moving on. Does anyone here eat their weed? I don't mean that as crudely as the question is framed, obviously in cakes and what not, but just want to gauge some experiences. I got given a few cupcakes for christmas off the in-laws, and I'll be honest, didn't think much of it. I'd previously once ingested weed in my teens, I used to burn pollen or more likely resin into yogurts and that, well, that floored me. I remember still being stoned well into Monday morning at school. :shifty:
First time is always the best.
My first time, about 8 of us baked some cookies and it was all cool, then we went out to the pub, and in the beer garden everybody began speaking backwards. And everybody uderstood everybody. It was quite an amazing time.
Another time, I was on my way to see Porgy and Bess, at the Barbican after work so was running late and knew I wouldn't have time to have a doobie before, so I just had a little nibble. At one point the orchestra transformed into a giant tiara, crowning the stage.
Post by: newsted on Saturday 13 January 2018, 12:11:46 AM
Post by: triggs on Saturday 13 January 2018, 12:28:43 AM
You are weird, man. :lol::lol:
Post by: Keggy_Keagal on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 06:05:02 PM
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Post by: AfroP on Sunday 18 February 2018, 12:33:31 PM
Absolute disgrace that this poor kid has to suffer because narrow minded, fear mongering idiots make stupid decisions. Ffs, if it can get past the FCC in the US it should pass any tests we have.
And the fact that it's proven to work for the little dude as well.
I do find it annoying that this English family went to the Netherlands for the treatment and had to come back as they didn't have medical insurance.
But the rest of Europe comes here and gets free healthcare in the NHS.
c***s
Post by: Troll on Sunday 18 February 2018, 03:21:42 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-43101716
Absolute disgrace that this poor kid has to suffer because narrow minded, fear mongering idiots make stupid decisions. Ffs, if it can get past the FCC in the US it should pass any tests we have.
And the fact that it's proven to work for the little dude as well.
I do find it annoying that this English family went to the Netherlands for the treatment and had to come back as they didn't have medical insurance.
But the rest of Europe comes here and gets free healthcare in the NHS.
c***s
That's not how it works.
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 19 February 2018, 02:13:05 PM
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Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 20 March 2018, 03:39:31 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/wj7qzb/cocaine-is-the-hidden-mixer-in-newcastles-economy?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it
Timeout London ran a front cover in 2005 saying the same thing about London.
As always we're years behind.
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 19 May 2018, 12:36:05 PM
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Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 22 May 2018, 02:39:25 PM
Illicit drug use should not be a crime, says Royal College of Physicians. Drugs policy will not change or progress as