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Title: Drugs
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:24:05 PM
article

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/03/drugs-prohibition-latin-america

'I guess it had to happen this way. The greatest social menace of the new century is not terrorism but drugs, and it is the poor who will have to lead the revolution. The global trade in illicit narcotics ranks with that in oil and arms. Its prohibition wrecks the lives of wealthy and wretched, east and west alike. It fills jails, corrupts politicians and plagues nations. It finances wars from Afghanistan to Colombia. It is utterly mad.

There is no sign of reform emanating from the self-satisfied liberal democracies of west Europe or north America. Reform is not mentioned by Barack Obama, Gordon Brown, Nicolas Sarkozy or Angela Merkel. Their countries can sustain prohibition, just, by extravagant penal repression and by sweeping the consequences underground. Politicians will smirk and say, as they did in their youth, that they can "handle" drugs.

No such luxury is available to the political economies of Latin America. They have been wrecked by Washington's demand that they stop exporting drugs to fuel America's unregulated cocaine market. It is like trying to stop traffic jams by imposing an oil ban in the Gulf.

Push has finally come to shove. Last week the Argentine supreme court declared in a landmark ruling that it was "unconstitutional" to prosecute citizens for having drugs for their personal use. It asserted in ringing terms that "adults should be free to make lifestyle decisions without the intervention of the state". This classic statement of civil liberty comes not from some liberal British home secretary or Tory ideologue. They would not dare. The doctrine is adumbrated by a regime only 25 years from dictatorship.

Nor is that all. The Mexican government has been brought to its knees by a drug-trafficking industry employing some 500,000 workers and policed by 5,600 killings a year, all to supply America's gargantuan appetite and Mexico's lesser one. Three years ago, Mexico concluded that prison for drug possession merely criminalised a large slice of its population. Drug users should be regarded as "patients, not criminals".

Next to the plate step Brazil and Ecuador. Both are quietly proposing to follow suit, fearful only of offending America's drug enforcement bureaucracy, now a dominant presence in every South American capital. Ecuador has pardoned 1,500 "mules" – women used by the gangs to transport cocaine over international borders. Britain, still in the dark ages, locks these pathetic women up in Holloway for years on end.

Brazil's former president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, co-authored the recent Latin American Commission on Drugs and Democracy. He declares the emperor naked. "The tide is turning," he says. "The war-on-drugs strategy has failed." A Brazilian judge, Maria Lucia Karam, of the lobby group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, tells the Guardian: "The only way to reduce violence in Mexico, Brazil or anywhere else is to legalise the production, supply and consumption of all drugs."

America spends a reported $70bn a year on suppressing drug imports, and untold billions on prosecuting its own citizens for drugs offences. Yet the huge profits available to Latin American traffickers have financed a quarter-century of civil war in Colombia and devastating social disruption in Mexico, Peru and Bolivia. Similar profits are aiding the war in Afghanistan and killing British soldiers.

The underlying concept of the war on drugs, initiated by Richard Nixon in the 1970s, is that demand can be curbed by eliminating supply. It has been enunciated by every US president and every British prime minister. Tony Blair thought that by occupying Afghanistan he could rid the streets of Britain of heroin. He told Clare Short to do it. Gordon Brown believes it to this day.

This concept marries intellectual idiocy – that supply leads demand – with practical impossibility. But it is golden politics. For 30 years it has allowed western politicians to shift blame for not regulating drug abuse at home on to the shoulders of poor countries abroad. It is gloriously, crashingly immoral.

The Latin American breakthrough is directed at domestic drug users, but this is only half the battle. There is no rational justification for making consumption legal but not the supply of what is consumed. We do not cure nicotine addiction by banning the Zimbabwean tobacco crop.

The absurdity of this position was illustrated by this week's "good news" that the 2009 Afghan poppy harvest had fallen back to its 2005 level. This was taken as a sign both that poppy eradication was "working" and that depriving Afghan peasants of their most lucrative cash crop somehow wins their hearts and minds and impoverishes the Taliban.

The Afghan poppy crop is largely a function of the price of poppies compared with that of wheat. The only time policy has disrupted this potent market was in 2001, when the old Taliban responded to American pressure by ruthlessly suppressing supply. Since the Nato occupation it has boomed, inevitably polluting Kabul politics and plunging western diplomats and commentators into hypocrisy over Hamid Karzai's corrupt regime. What did they think would happen?

The crop has shrunk because the wheat price has risen and the recession has dampened European demand. It will rise again. The policy of Nato and the UN's economically illiterate drug tsar, Antonio Maria Costa, of treating Afghan opium as the cause of heroin addiction, not a response to it, means trying to break supply routes and stamp out criminal gangs. It has failed, merely increasing heroin's risk premium. As long as there is demand, there will be supply. Water does not flow uphill, however much global bureaucrats pay each other to pretend otherwise.

The trade in drugs is a direct result of their unregulated availability on the streets of Europe and America. Making supply illegal is worse than pointless. It oils a black market, drives trade underground, cross-subsidises other crime and leaves consumers at the mercy of poisons. It is the politics of stupid. The incarceration (pdf) of thousands of poor people (11,000 in England and Wales alone) also deprives economies of a large labour pool.

As the Brazilian judge pointed out, the tide of violence associated with any illegal trade will not abate by only licensing consumption. The mountain that must be climbed is licensing, regulating and taxing supply, thus ending a prohibition now outstripping in absurdity and damage America's alcohol prohibition between the wars.

From the the deaths of British troops in Helmand to the narco-terrorism of Mexico and the mules cramming London's jails, the war on drugs can be seen only as a total failure, a vast self-imposed cost on western society. It is the greatest sweeping-under-the-carpet of our age.

The desperate politicians of Latin America have at last found the courage to grasp the nettle. Will Britain? According to the UN, it has the highest number of problem drug users in Europe. I imagine Gordon Brown and David Cameron agree with the Argentine supreme court, but they are too frightened to say so, let alone promise reform. In all they do they are guided by fear.

I sometimes realise that, if Britain still had the death penalty, no current political leader would have the guts to abolish it.'

I agree with this article.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:29:19 PM
Many have said it before this article, but still, it is the only solution.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:43:45 PM
or is it?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 5 September 2009, 02:48:02 PM
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: The Libertine on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:03:12 PM
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.

 :thup:

the "illegal = bad and legal = safe" argument falls down when you point out alcohol and cigarettes are legal/encouraged but kill millions worldwide every year.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:06:14 PM
I want to hear how anyone could argue against what appears to be clearly the most logical and best option.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Allmo on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:41:39 PM
We will never legalise drugs though, too much of 'Middle England' are of the mindset that one E will kill, one line of coke will have you addicted and you'll turn schzophrenic after one joint.

I generally agree that legalisation is the way forward to solve many problems that drugs cause, but it is dependant on what drugs are legalised. I would never ever agree with meth, smack and crack becoming legal, but they are the drugs that cause most problems. The people who generally believe legal is good, illegal is bad are in my eyes just thick, and in my eyes a sizeable chunk may be thick enough to think that if Heroin is legal, then it would be fine to try it, which I just can't argue is a good option at all.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Parky on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:49:09 PM
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:02:56 PM
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.

I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: LucaAltieri on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:09:46 PM
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.

I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'

First we need to tackle binge drinking then maybe... maybe... think about legalising/decriminalising other things.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mike on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:21:07 PM
Never in our lifetimes. At least not here. Prisons are a business.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Adam^ on Saturday 5 September 2009, 05:31:42 PM
I'm anti drugs, but having it legalised seems a far better idea to me. The fact that the government can tax it, the stuff is of decent quality (some sort of laws on what can be in it etc). Now how the f*** you do that, I have no idea. Obviously alcohol and smoking are legal and f*** people up, but they are a massive tax income so, they aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:05:52 PM
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.

I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'

That's a fair point, but as bad as many people are on drink, there's still plenty of people, I would say the majority in the grand scheme of things, that know how to enjoy it in a proper, respectful manner. 

What I meant was, the approach is simple.  Educate children with truths about drugs, and drink, incidentally, from a younger age.  Don't try to only scare them, but do tell them all sides of the debate.  Not just "You take 'DRUGS' and you turn into this *insert random dead junkie here*".

Drugs education in this country is utterly disgraceful, as it stands.  I remember the one session we got at school.  It consisted of a copper coming in, giving us a leaflet that showed us what LSD, E, cocaine, heroin and weed looked like then told us "most people turn out to be criminals" once they start them.  Oh, can't forget the old "gateway drug" comment with regards to weed, as well.  It's all bollocks. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Parky on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:21:24 PM
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.

I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'

That's a fair point, but as bad as many people are on drink, there's still plenty of people, I would say the majority in the grand scheme of things, that know how to enjoy it in a proper, respectful manner. 

What I meant was, the approach is simple.  Educate children with truths about drugs, and drink, incidentally, from a younger age.  Don't try to only scare them, but do tell them all sides of the debate.  Not just "You take 'DRUGS' and you turn into this *insert random dead junkie here*".

Drugs education in this country is utterly disgraceful, as it stands.  I remember the one session we got at school.  It consisted of a copper coming in, giving us a leaflet that showed us what LSD, E, cocaine, heroin and weed looked like then told us "most people turn out to be criminals" once they start them.  Oh, can't forget the old "gateway drug" comment with regards to weed, as well.  It's all bollocks. 

Getaway drug more like.  :razz:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: 80 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:25:26 PM
I want to hear how anyone could argue against what appears to be clearly the most logical and best option.

I'd love to play the contrary b****** but for most intents and purposes I can't in this instance.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Bowie on Saturday 5 September 2009, 06:53:29 PM
So it's only risen in 9 out of 20 studied areas, they fail to tell us what those other results are, it was categorized as illegal 3 years ago and the price has plunged since. FFS, just legalise the lot and be done with it. Those who want it will take it regardless, but organised crime will be reduced, petty crimes will be massively reduced and the government can tax it. Win all round!

Exactly, made a written speech on this subject last year for my English coursework. Would cut out so many negative side effects to illegal drugs; HIV being one of them within heroin addicts too. Obviously not proposing selling smack n' crack alongside alchopops in the off licence like, but just making all illegal drugs controlled.

Always agreed 100% on this subject. I hate the way people react when you propose it though when they haven't heard the benefits. Makes you sound like some sort of hippy stoner when it first comes out your mouth when infact it is the most logical solution.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Stephen927 on Saturday 5 September 2009, 07:02:38 PM
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/486710/mackeySouthParkMkay.jpg)

And thats all I've got to say about that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Haz on Saturday 5 September 2009, 07:07:07 PM
Legalise them if only to thwart those who make money out of human misery.  Push it into kids from the earliest age that there is something basically wrong with chemically inducing realities.  We are not equipped for it; the fact we are bright enough to exploit our environment in such away is incidental. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: toonlass on Friday 26 February 2010, 11:17:02 AM
No idea why this popped into my head, but does anyone sniff glue these days? I never have (btw) but it was a big problem when I was younger, and you always saw used glue bags around in back lanes etc. You could also tell who was a sniffer as they had a weird type of acne around their nose/mouth. Is it something people still do, or have other drugs made it obsolete?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 26 February 2010, 11:55:47 AM
Better, safer and more fun drugs are just as easily available nowadays, so I suppose that's why people don't sniff glue. Sniffing s*** is quite alot more dangerous than a fair few drugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Friday 26 February 2010, 12:14:15 PM
I'm sure in 100 years time they will look back and think why the f*** there isn
Yep.  Legalise and educate. 

Simple.

Would also expand the minds of some frigid people that seem to think illegal = bad.

I'm not sure I agree that educating the idiotic fuckwits of England is in any way 'Simple'

That's a fair point, but as bad as many people are on drink, there's still plenty of people, I would say the majority in the grand scheme of things, that know how to enjoy it in a proper, respectful manner. 

What I meant was, the approach is simple.  Educate children with truths about drugs, and drink, incidentally, from a younger age.  Don't try to only scare them, but do tell them all sides of the debate.  Not just "You take 'DRUGS' and you turn into this *insert random dead junkie here*".

Drugs education in this country is utterly disgraceful, as it stands.  I remember the one session we got at school.  It consisted of a copper coming in, giving us a leaflet that showed us what LSD, E, cocaine, heroin and weed looked like then told us "most people turn out to be criminals" once they start them.  Oh, can't forget the old "gateway drug" comment with regards to weed, as well.  It's all bollocks. 

Totally agree, in 100 years time they will look back and wonder why the f*** this wasn't done a long time ago. Could potentially solve so many problems.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Keefaz on Friday 26 February 2010, 12:16:55 PM
Love a bit of cake, me, on the weekends.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Bowie on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:07:28 PM
Glue's making a comeback man.





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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:08:26 PM
Tell you what, that crack is really more-ish.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:32:14 PM
What does glue do? any comparisons?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: toonlass on Friday 26 February 2010, 03:40:07 PM
What does glue do? any comparisons?

I heard it sticks model aeroplanes together really well like.  :colo:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 27 February 2010, 09:54:36 AM
Love a bit of cake, me, on the weekends.

:lol: It's a f***ing disgrace.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Thursday 2 September 2010, 08:23:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ruBtLIvJM
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 04:11:17 PM
http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/08/21/drug-dealers-in-the-netherlands-now-selling-marijuana/ (http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/08/21/drug-dealers-in-the-netherlands-now-selling-marijuana/)

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A few months ago, I discussed the tourist drug ban in the Netherlands, with a focus on my town, Maastricht.  NPR just ran a story on the intermediate term effects of the new regulations.  Some of the “coffee shops” (places where one could buy a pre-rolled or roll-you-own joint for €3) have reopened, as I predicted; others have not. Unsurprisingly, what has happened is that drug dealers, who previously had dealt only in hard drugs, are now also selling marijuana illegally.  While total consumption of weed has probably dropped, buyers are worse off, as are coffee-house owners, with the main beneficiaries being drug dealers.  As always, something that raises price in a legal market will increase demand in the illegal market.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 04:18:28 PM
:undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 04:19:13 PM
Makes sense.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Sifu on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 11:57:55 PM
I miss Alan Shearer 9 :undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Parky on Tuesday 21 August 2012, 11:59:34 PM
I miss Alan Shearer 9 :undecided:

He's on TT.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 22 August 2012, 12:00:01 AM
Glue's making a comeback man.





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:lol: :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Sifu on Wednesday 22 August 2012, 12:07:06 AM
I miss Alan Shearer 9 :undecided:

He's on TT.

TT :yao:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 22 August 2012, 11:13:07 AM
Anybody watched American Weed btw?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:17:08 PM
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/drugs-live-the-ecstasy-trial/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1 (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/drugs-live-the-ecstasy-trial/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1)

The first programme unravels the mysteries of MDMA, revealing how the drug affects the brain.

Professor David Nutt of Imperial College London will reveal the results of the scientific trial and the programme follows some of the volunteers - who include actor Keith Allen, novelist Lionel Shriver, a vicar, a former MP and an ex-soldier - through the trial.

The programme also looks at the potential side-effects and dangers of taking MDMA and includes a discussion with an expert who disagrees with the study and is sceptical about its purpose.


Could be an interesting watch.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:22:14 PM
I miss getting stoned.  I haven't been stoned for years now but i still get urges to have a smoke, the day i retire I'm going to walk out of work have a almighty propa stitcha bucket and a joint them more then likely collapse and die :lol:

Seriously though, i'd rather get stoned then drink tbh.......unfortunately for me i can only drink.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:22:46 PM
:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:23:51 PM
I miss getting stoned.  I haven't been stoned for years now but i still get urges to have a smoke, the day i retire I'm going to walk out of work have a almighty propa stitcha bucket and a joint them more then likely collapse and die :lol:

Seriously though, i'd rather get stoned then drink tbh.......unfortunately for me i can only drink.

Agreed. My friends can't seem to come to terms with that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:25:56 PM
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/drugs-live-the-ecstasy-trial/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1 (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/drugs-live-the-ecstasy-trial/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1)

The first programme unravels the mysteries of MDMA, revealing how the drug affects the brain.

Professor David Nutt of Imperial College London will reveal the results of the scientific trial and the programme follows some of the volunteers - who include actor Keith Allen, novelist Lionel Shriver, a vicar, a former MP and an ex-soldier - through the trial.

The programme also looks at the potential side-effects and dangers of taking MDMA and includes a discussion with an expert who disagrees with the study and is sceptical about its purpose.


Could be an interesting watch.

On weeeeeed

(http://i.imgur.com/0Ztvu.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:26:20 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: PCW1983 on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:27:22 PM
I miss getting stoned.  I haven't been stoned for years now but i still get urges to have a smoke, the day i retire I'm going to walk out of work have a almighty propa stitcha bucket and a joint them more then likely collapse and die :lol:

Seriously though, i'd rather get stoned then drink tbh.......unfortunately for me i can only drink.

Agreed. My friends can't seem to come to terms with that.

My lass doesn't either, but she's never smoked so i don't think she could.  Loads of my mates smoke, a couple are propa stoners like i used to be.......laughing so much and so hard that it feels like your bodys gonna snap in half.......f***ing hell man i miss that!

I cant take drugs because of work but i swear to god i'd be better at my job if i was stoned.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:35:24 PM
Why do we get 2 options for the poll? :lol: I picked yes and no
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:36:22 PM
Nescafe Black Gold straight into my veins
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 04:37:36 PM
I've got a meth lab in my shed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Oakie Doke on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 05:22:30 PM
Ali-G Drugs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZKW1WEVlM#)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:16:59 PM
Just put this on now. Funny as f***. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:18:55 PM
Couldn't think of anywhere I'd like to be any less than in a lab lying down in silence while I was cowied off my tits.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:22:11 PM
Student c***s.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:22:14 PM
She's off her tits
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:22:41 PM
Couldn't think of anywhere I'd like to be any less than in a lab lying down in silence while I was cowied off my tits.

I'd be trying to hoy out a load of shapes to the sound of the MRI scanner like. Proper techno vibe when you're in there.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:24:40 PM
Mark on ecstasy - Peep Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jihNDjeQGSE#ws)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:25:49 PM
Has Chris Morris produced this?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:28:09 PM
“Hi, this is Bruno Brooks. Only the fool would say “Yeah, I’ll enter the nightmare of Cake!” "
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:29:38 PM
jason Cook
Watching Drugs Live with the missus. We are experts from different ends. She is doing her PhD in psychology. I POUNDED the 90's.

f***ing love Jason Cook. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:31:17 PM
Neil Gibbons ‏@neilgibbons
Not feeling much off this Channel 4 MDMA show. Anyone else? Might do another on Channel 4+1. You having a good night? I'm Neil by the way.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:32:16 PM
Can't wait for the Leah Betts story to appear.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:33:59 PM
Can't wait for the Leah Betts story to appear.

Some knacker in year above us at Prudhoe snuffed it after a cowie sesh at Godskitchen.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:34:12 PM
What time's Come Down With Me on?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:27 PM
What time's Come Down With Me on?

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:34 PM
Can't wait for the Leah Betts story to appear.

I took ecstacy the night she died. Freaked out a bit the morning after, until I realised I wasn't actually dead, so it must have been alright.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:37 PM
That blonde doesn't look too happy.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:35:48 PM
Stolen that on me Twitter like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:48:30 PM
Give them somd decent music to listen to.  ffs
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:50:26 PM
rather boring when they're not doing owt like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:52:20 PM
Too much science, not enough people lying there chinned.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:54:55 PM
This arsehole looks like Colm Meaney.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 10:55:01 PM
Top bloke. Made for the cameras.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:03:29 PM
"You have my boom mic"
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:03:51 PM
She could psycho-analyse me any day.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:04:45 PM
Geet up Shabs lad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Gerrr in :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:36 PM
Shabs is f***ing quality. :lol:

Who are these f***ing pricks?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:50 PM
f***ing Shabs. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:05:57 PM
GAYS!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:06:42 PM
I'll be shocked if they didn't form a daisy chain when those cameras went ffs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:08:34 PM
Deary me, those lads.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:09:36 PM
I just want to talk to Shabbs. :lol:

What a respectable guy he is like. Those teeth too. Obviously f*** all to do with years of knashing his jaws together. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:10:14 PM
Get on Shabs, legend raver innit bruv. Should have got Dave the rave on.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:10:28 PM
Classic put a daft hat on when you're cowied off your tits in the house behaviour shown by those bent lads.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:11:43 PM
Shabs wont bite love, you can look at him.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:13:08 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.

I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.

Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:13:12 PM
They have fairly struggled with the live element of this. Hope tomorrow they give shabs what he needs to get this party started and draft in the happy mondays.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:15:15 PM
Shabs is trending!! HAHA
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:15:44 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.

I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.

Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.
:serious:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:22:22 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.

I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.

Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.

Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:23:01 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/notoriousbiggs/gurn.jpg)

Was hoping to see more of this.  Disappointed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:27:20 PM
Don't understand drugs any more :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:29:19 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.

I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.

Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.

Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:

Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:

When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:33:01 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.

I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.

Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.

Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:

Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:

When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.

It would've been even more of a success. :rose: As for your question, try it. I think it'd take a lot longer than that to go off? :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:35:41 PM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.

I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.

Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.

Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:

Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:

When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.

It would've been even more of a success. :rose: As for your question, try it. :thup:

School night, always feel ridiculously tired after weed. I've got nothing to do this weekend though.........
Thing is as with alcohol I'm a proper light weight, a few draws and I'm away. Will take ages to get through it all.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:37:16 PM
Dino pack it in man. I hate you right now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:39:08 PM
Dino pack it in man. I hate you right now.

Sorry bro :undecided:

N-O get baked party at my house  :aww:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 September 2012, 11:47:22 PM
Dino pack it in man. I hate you right now.

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Beren on Thursday 27 September 2012, 12:25:11 AM
Was hoping Jon Snow would take some and start rubbing Dr. Christian's chin.

I've got s*** loads of stupid hats, would love a bit of MDMA.

Seriously considering smoking the weed I've had for over a month now.

Couldn't believe it a few weeks ago btw you knob. Just as we're all leaving, "Oh, s***, forgot to say I've got a shitload of weed, sorry, should've said earlier. Oh well, see you later." :lol:

Didn't know you were into that Neil, thought you were a respectable young man or something. Fifa day would not have been a success with weed involved :lol:

When does the stuff go off? I think it's been about 2 months since my mate got it and left it at my flat.

It would've been even more of a success. :rose: As for your question, try it. :thup:

School night, always feel ridiculously tired after weed. I've got nothing to do this weekend though.........
Thing is as with alcohol I'm a proper light weight, a few draws and I'm away. Will take ages to get through it all.

What. A. f***ing. Dick.

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 27 September 2012, 01:10:58 AM
FFS. :lol: Dino I  have spare time and a pair of lungs. I'm back in newcastle on friday.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 27 September 2012, 01:15:28 AM
:lol: You t***s didn't see his face in Amsterdam man. I looked away for 2 seconds, looked back, the c***s face is white as a sheet. Can't take his booze, can't take his weed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 27 September 2012, 01:38:47 AM
:lol: Love a good whitey me like.
Title: Drugs
Post by: Dr Venkman on Thursday 27 September 2012, 05:37:13 PM
I'm anti drugs.

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 27 September 2012, 06:04:17 PM
I'm anti drugs.

What does this mean?

That he's completely boring.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 27 September 2012, 06:07:34 PM
:pilko:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 09:11:16 AM
An interesting read, no matter your persuasion.

http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html (http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html)

Having had bad trips as a full-on psychonaut, what those kids must have gone through... :nope:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:37:28 PM
I'm anti drugs.

What does this mean?

That he's completely boring.

Yeah, cos drugs make people more interesting.

Get real. Whether you're interesting or boring has got f*** all to do with drugs, mate.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:44:08 PM
On a different note...from the whose interesting or who is boring lark.


I tried that Tree Sherbet last weekend.

Intersting stuff but ill not be touching it ever again.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: cp40 on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:55:07 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/notoriousbiggs/gurn.jpg)



I bet hes interesting :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 12:56:39 PM
I'm anti drugs.

What does this mean?

That he's completely boring.

Yeah, cos drugs make people more interesting.

Get real. Whether you're interesting or boring has got f*** all to do with drugs, mate.

Nice. :lol:

I would think of someone that came out as anti-drink would equally be as boring.  Or I could have just been playing around, you moody b******.

On a more serious note, if someone is anti-something, they tend to be biased against it.  Spouting such things as bollocks and s***, and those people tend to be boring.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:02:12 PM
I'm anti drugs.

What does this mean?

That he's completely boring.

Yeah, cos drugs make people more interesting.

Get real. Whether you're interesting or boring has got f*** all to do with drugs, mate.

Nice. :lol:

I think someone that came out as anti-drink would equally be as boring.  Or I could have just been playing around, you moody b******.

I'm not moody. You're just a bit paranoid, that's all. That's what drugs do to you over time though. :snod: :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:11:19 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/notoriousbiggs/gurn.jpg)



I bet hes interesting :lol:

Charlie Adam is interesting, played for Liverpool and now Stoke.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:15:17 PM
On a different note...from the whose interesting or who is boring lark.


I tried that Tree Sherbet last weekend.

Intersting stuff but ill not be touching it ever again.



what the hell?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 6 October 2012, 01:18:08 PM
On a different note...from the whose interesting or who is boring lark.


I tried that Tree Sherbet last weekend.

Intersting stuff but ill not be touching it ever again.



what the hell?


Tired it when you were on holiday last friday.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Saturday 6 October 2012, 07:57:13 PM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Saturday 6 October 2012, 07:58:18 PM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:

Thats what i wanted to know
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 09:18:35 PM
Annihilation legal high leaves nine in hospital

Nine people have been hospitalised after taking the substance

Police have warned about the use of a "legal high" substance that has left nine people in hospital in the past three months.

They said Annihilation, described as herbal incense, is being used predominately by young people in and around Glasgow.

The most recent cases came on Wednesday, when three people became ill after taking it at the same time.

Symptoms can include increased heart rate, numbness and unconsciousness.

The longest that anyone affected by the substance has been kept in hospital was overnight, and that was for observations.

Strathclyde Police said Annihilation was one of many psychoactive substances they been made aware of in recent months.

Det Insp Jim Bradley, Glasgow City Centre Police Office, said it was important people understood the risks associated with taking substances such as Annihilation.

Medical attention

He added: "Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's safe. No one can predict the risks involved.

"Those who have taken the drug have experienced adverse health effects, including increased heart rate, unconsciousness, numbness in legs causing collapse, paranoia, aggression and self harming.

"The symptoms appear, in some cases, to last for several hours.

"Users can never be sure what they are taking or what the serious consequences can be. The adverse effects on an individual's health are not known but there is potential for short term or long term harm from these substances."

He also warned users against mixing Annihilation with any other legal highs, or with drugs or alcohol, as the consequences could be even more severe.

Anyone suffering from adverse effects after taking any legal high substance should seek immediate medical attention, the officer said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-19856505 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-19856505)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 09:55:30 PM
Legal highs.  Idiots.

:facepalm:

More proof, if ever needed in the first place, that we need a properly regulated drug market, but hey, let's keep the status quo.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:02:28 PM
An interesting read, no matter your persuasion.

http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html (http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/when-kids-accidentally-ingested-lsd.html)

Having had bad trips as a full-on psychonaut, what those kids must have gone through... :nope:

TBH, I think a kid that unwittingly took LSD would be better able to handle it (at least long-term) than an adult. More likely to forget, and less likely to think themselves into a bad trip.

I can't think of anything much worse than being "dosed" with LSD and not knowing what's going on. Practically a bad trip guaranteed right there. At least with a kid you could maybe bring them off the bad trip by asking them if they'd ever noticed how interesting their shoes are and putting positive ideas in their head. That's not going to work with an adult who's more worried about what the f*** is happening to him/her.

I had a really bad attack of the paras a year or two ago when a mate brought back some ridiculous weed from Amsterdam. I hadn't smoked in a long, long time and it properly knocked me for six. The only reason I managed to not absolutely lose it was because I knew from experience that I'd be right again in a few hours.

I can't imagine what that, let alone LSD, would do to someone with no experience, especially if there was nobody around who could talk them down and keep them a bit straight.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Yeah, true on the positive spin.  From the sounds of it they didn't do that though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:16:44 PM
Well, no. You can't expect people who can't keep their drugs away from their kids (or indeed people who'd spike someone else with drugs) to be any kind of help to the poor victim.

I've been there myself more than a few times (not as the victim, but the person trying to help someone having a—typically self-inflicted—bad experience), and I find distraction is the way to go. Worst thing you can let a person having a bad experience on drugs do is run with their own thoughts.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 6 October 2012, 10:19:37 PM
I know, been there all too often myself. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:05:52 PM
:)

Isn't it a wonder how people who can't handle drugs keep on taking them?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:07:22 PM
:)

Isn't it a wonder how people who can't handle drugs keep on taking them?

Same goes for the drink, tbh. And junk food. And ciggies...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:08:02 PM
Just had a little flashback there while replying to a post on RTG about when you last took drugs. Been years, enjoy the memories but wouldn't be bothered these days. :aww:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:19:14 PM
Never been interested in the illicit stuff personally. Smoked cigs for 2 years. Quit cold turkey 9 months ago, haven't had one since.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:22:43 PM
Think I get flashback from drugs but not sure if they are actual flashbacks :lol:

Had a proper weird day at work on Friday, kept vaguely remembering a dream I had the night before but it was actually real and I was desperately trying to remember who I was, had this weird almost warm feeling through my body.

This was all while I was sat at my desk, my colleague was even speaking to me at one point so I was trying to look like I was listening but having this freak out.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:23:37 PM
Aye, but we know you're a mental case. :p
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:23:47 PM
:)

Isn't it a wonder how people who can't handle drugs keep on taking them?

Same goes for the drink, tbh. And junk food. And ciggies...

Drink (and ciggies and junk food) are different to drugs in one important respect: you aren't suddenly off your tits/obese/cancer-ridden after one drink/burger/fag, whereas with drugs your typical dosage takes you straight to la-la-land.

Drugs are very much a black/white proposition; booze, burgers and fags aren't.

That is to say, it's a lot easier to say no to having a "dose" of drugs because you don't feel like being as high as a kite. Deciding whether to have one beer, burger or ciggie isn't really a straight-up question of whether you want to be hammered/obese/cancer-ridden or not.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Clay on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:24:17 PM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:

Thats what i wanted to know


Still needs answered.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:33:17 PM
Aye, but we know you're a mental case. :p

We do but these episodes somehow still surprise/scare me :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:36:10 PM
Aye, but we know you're a mental case. :p

We do but these episodes somehow still surprise/scare me :lol:

 :saylor:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:36:34 PM
Love yer really. :snod:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:40:38 PM
Made my night  :fwap:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:44:18 PM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:

Thats what i wanted to know


Still needs answered.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Saturday 6 October 2012, 11:45:05 PM
Even Google didn't know. :o
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:04:47 AM
I assume it's that plant food stuff that was doing the rounds last year, I forget the name.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:12:14 AM
http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://researchlsd.blogspot.co.uk/)

Nothing particular on there just now, but good reports and stories pop up on it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:24:41 AM
I assume it's that plant food stuff that was doing the rounds last year, I forget the name.

Meow meow or whatever is was?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:26:28 AM
I assume it's that plant food stuff that was doing the rounds last year, I forget the name.

Meow meow or whatever is was?

Whiskas, actually mate.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 7 October 2012, 12:29:08 AM
I assume it's that plant food stuff that was doing the rounds last year, I forget the name.

Meow meow or whatever is was?

Whiskas, actually mate.

Purrrrr..
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:25:10 PM
I thought we could double up the meaning of this thread.  I understand it's used currently to discuss drug legislation and the like?  Well I think people should pop in here and post whenever they're off their tits.  Stick this thread on ignore, MKSC.

I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker.  My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid.  Just so you know.

(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself).  Howay the lads.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:27:17 PM
wew  :frantic:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: madras on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:28:29 PM
Just had a little flashback there while replying to a post on RTG about when you last took drugs. Been years, enjoy the memories but wouldn't be bothered these days. :aww:
you're on RTG ?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:30:12 PM
I thought we could double up the meaning of this thread.  I understand it's used currently to discuss drug legislation and the like?  Well I think people should pop in here and post whenever they're off their tits.  Stick this thread on ignore, MKSC.

I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker.  My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid.  Just so you know.

(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself).  Howay the lads.

well jel.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 12 October 2012, 10:37:25 PM
I thought we could double up the meaning of this thread.  I understand it's used currently to discuss drug legislation and the like?  Well I think people should pop in here and post whenever they're off their tits.  Stick this thread on ignore, MKSC.

I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker.  My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid.  Just so you know.

(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself).  Howay the lads.

well jel.

:lol: As is ajewels (2 posts above you).  Those were his exact words, as he's now reiterated to me on Facebook.  He texted me "well jel".

ajewels is basically my best friend in real life, we need to get him posting on here more!  Up your game all. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Friday 12 October 2012, 11:12:34 PM
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Drugs+are+bad+mkay.+word+word+word+word+word_b90d15_3661895.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Saturday 13 October 2012, 02:14:02 AM
I thought we could double up the meaning of this thread.  I understand it's used currently to discuss drug legislation and the like?  Well I think people should pop in here and post whenever they're off their tits.  Stick this thread on ignore, MKSC.

I'm f***ed me like, I've only had 2 lines of coke but it's been so long since I've done it that I'm off my rocker.  My posting style this evening will be prolific, relentless, s***, prolifically relentlessly s***, arrogant, twattish and stupid.  Just so you know.

(GF is away so I fancied entertaining myself).  Howay the lads.

well jel.

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 13 October 2012, 10:17:47 AM
The f*** is Tree Sherbert?! :lol:

Thats what i wanted to know


Still needs answered.

Its that plant food stuff, or meow meow stuff.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Saturday 13 October 2012, 10:37:20 AM
FAO drug use experts: How long does it take cannabis/weed to leave your system in terms of a urination drug test. Twenty days or so should be enough, yeah?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 13 October 2012, 10:39:49 AM
FAO drug use experts: How long does it take cannabis/weed to leave your system in terms of a urination drug test. Twenty days or so should be enough, yeah?

2 weeks should do it unless you're talking about a regular user:

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana_test.htm (http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana_test.htm)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Saturday 13 October 2012, 11:35:34 AM
Just had a little flashback there while replying to a post on RTG about when you last took drugs. Been years, enjoy the memories but wouldn't be bothered these days. :aww:
you're on RTG ?

Aye, since 2002. :o
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Stephen927 on Saturday 13 October 2012, 12:48:11 PM
Had a brief flirtation with them but not fussed these days.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:18:22 AM
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/10/11/change-u-s-drug-laws-the-u-n-stands-in-the-way/ (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/10/11/change-u-s-drug-laws-the-u-n-stands-in-the-way/)

Didn't realise it has to start with the UN.  Not as optimistic as I once was.. :undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:42:31 AM
That's bollocks. Since when has anybody listened to the UN when they wanted to do something but the UN disagreed?

It really is about time that governments started taking a realistic approach to drugs (and prostitution). Prohibition has never worked in thousands of years, and it isn't going to start working now.

Drugs/prostitution needs to be brought out into the open where it'll be out of the hands of criminals.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:43:59 AM
Aye, but on this they appear to have listened to them.  In fact, on anything but war/Israel, they tend to listen to them.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:46:47 AM
Obviously I agree with you though.  The only future is a regulated drug market.  There's still a debate to be had on just how much freedom people should have to use s*** like heroin, crack and the like, but it definitely needs to come off the streets and be controlled.  In saying that, opium would be much better than heroin on the market.

There's just far too many arguments against prohibition to keep it going.  There's really not a single argument for it, now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 10:29:59 AM
Yeah. Heroin is a bit of a tricky one. But then you only have to look at this graph to see that booze is far and away the most harmful narcotic.

(http://download.thelancet.com/images/journalimages/0140-6736/PIIS0140673610614626.gr4.lrg.jpg)

I'm wondering how big a slice of the grey (crime) segment legalisation would remove, i.e. how much is due to the supply chain currently being controlled by criminals and how much is due to addicts robbing to be able to afford their next fix.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 10:34:23 AM
I think heroin is the one that should be medically regulated, with the intent of getting off it as it's just too destructive.  Opium isn't nearly as bad and it still baffles me how heroin pushed it out of the market given how vibrant the opium trade was less than a century ago. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Having never taken either, I've no idea. But I'm told heroin is f***ing amazing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:10:12 PM
it must be class. f*** that though

apparently there is something pretty mental (in a mental way, not good) someones mate had in croatia, which is produced by the human body when born or dying. cant remember what its called
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:14:11 PM
DMT (Dimethyltryptamine)? 

Pretty solid to get a hold of, but you can make it.  Also goes by the name of Ayahuasca.  Watch The Spirit Molecule for an insight.

Haven't touched heroin either, wacko, but I know not to due to my stupidly addictive nature.  Have ingested opium before though and never got hooked, more myths debunked.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:17:45 PM
memory blurry from last night, but that sounds about right #poet
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:19:44 PM
It's going through a bit of a bastardisation process at the moment.  Generally best used in serine environments, with the intention of overnight tripping, but now just seems to be getting used recreationally and most people missing the point of it and just wanting to escape reality. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:21:44 PM
Still gutted I've yet to sample DMT.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:25:08 PM
Bruce Parry tripped his balls off on Ayahuasca didn't he?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:29:00 PM
He did, also did something in one of his Africa episodes which was similar in process but completely different set of 'destinations'.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:44:29 PM
DMT sounds utterly mad. I've read a few experience tales on the net and it sounds as if it just beams you into a different world.

It may be one of those that you never fully get back to normal though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:46:51 PM
cant wait for amsterdam
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 04:55:09 PM
Not the case, Otter.  No-one has had any adverse side-effects from using DMT.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 05:28:35 PM
Not the case, Otter.  No-one has had any adverse side-effects from using DMT.

Just going off the videos I saw (there's a few on YouTube). None of them seemed the full shilling.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 14 October 2012, 05:31:16 PM
Not the case, Otter.  No-one has had any adverse side-effects from using DMT.

Big claim Bluf. Got any evidence?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 05:58:12 PM
Not the case, Otter.  No-one has had any adverse side-effects from using DMT.

Big claim Bluf. Got any evidence?

Having researched it, done it, and know plenty of people that do it on a regular basis.  There's 'retreats' all around the world that promote it, I doubt they'd do so if there were chances people could go nuts.  There's the real chance you'll not enjoy it, granted, but there's no chance of you going insane from it. 

Like I said to MW, watch The Spirit Molecule.  It's about a set of scientific studies done on the drug, not a video by over-enthusiastic druggers.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:03:24 PM
DMT sounds utterly mad. I've read a few experience tales on the net and it sounds as if it just beams you into a different world.

It may be one of those that you never fully get back to normal though.

Where do I sign up for some of that?

Who needs as balloon to space when you've got 'shrooms?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:06:52 PM
I must admit, whilst I would never try it, I did find the DMT experience tales fascinating. Any noteable experiences Bluf?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Well I drank a tea so it's a slower onslaught than doing DMT, which is the synthesised version of ayahuasca and you'd fire that in a pipe or bong and smoke it.  I wasn't at a retreat either, and did it in the house over my birthday last month.  These things need to be taken into account because without proper relaxation you're in danger of suppressing any potential drift off.  So many people do it and become underwhelmed because they've basically sat at a rowdy party and done some.  It's a pure waste, deserves far more respect..

Four hours in I did experience quite intense visuals, but none of the outer-body-experience results that it is most famous for.  See, when you go to these retreats, they give you a diet to follow for 14 days, it's essentially a vegan diet but not strictly.  Need to eat unprocessed foods, nuts of all kinds and s*** like that.  Me being my typical self, I didn't want to commit to that and just insisted on having it at mine (offering it no respect as I allude to above).  As a result, I conned myself out of anything profound, but when I fell asleep I had the most intense, vivid dreams, talking to things that can only be best described as entities. 

I didn't get any of the elf stuff that lots do, but I did get the sensation of travelling through space at the speed of light (I assume that's what it was, it was fast either way!), and looking back on our solar system.  Because I fell asleep, it's been difficult to remember, but I remember seeing visions from my childhood that I'd all but forgotten 'in real life'.  The best thing, or most interesting thing, was feeling like I'd been away for several days with so much in my head to talk about with my mate at the time, and being told I'd only been asleep for 30 minutes. 

I wasted a good opportunity that I'd waited nearly bloody ten years to have.  I'm due to do it again in early spring when the summer kicks back in, or possibly when I move into my new house and away from the chaotic and unpredictable area I'm in now if I can convince my mate to stop being a fanny.  Lots of banging and shouting would make you terrified under such influences, always have phones, buzzers turned off and TV's pulled out the wall so  you don't sit on the control, turn it on, and freak yourself the f*** out.

I've done quite a lot psychedelics in my time, but this one is the only one that's kept within our own 'reality', using space as a backdrop, as if to say those  you're talking to are real and watching you.  Others are just mind-f***s that can take you anywhere and lack any coherency and logic.  Even the most anti of drug users would have their perceptions changed after trying it.  I'd thoroughly recommend heading to a retreat if you ever hear about them.  Sadly, it's illegal here, but they do exist.  My ex's little brother frequently goes to one in Kilmarnock, but it costs him 100 quid a night, over the weekend, and with my best mate being able to 'make' it (you can buy the ingredients fairly legally), I quite resent the possibility of going down to Scotland's concrete jungle and trying to have an experience there.  There's a retreat in Peru, Tierra Vida Healing, that I'm pretty determined to get to and when I raise the cash I intend to go.  Main problem is the price of flights. 

Sorry I can't offer anything spectacular, but when I take it again, hopefully properly, I intend to write things up on Erowid, so would pop it here too.  Never fear it, but if you do have a slight fear of it, never do it recreationally, do it around people that are experienced on it and can keep you calm should you start to feel like you're losing control.  The idea is to let it control you, and the fight to remain in control is often what causes problems.  People try to control the outcome by thinking that thinking about not having a bad time is going to work, it won't.  As Leary said, you don't go on a boat trip thinking about sinking.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Si on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:51:39 PM
Never taken much of anything, but that does sound seriously intriguing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 October 2012, 06:57:33 PM
My ex's little brother frequently goes to one in Kilmarnock, but it costs him 100 quid a night, over the weekend, and with my best mate being able to 'make' it (you can buy the ingredients fairly legally), I quite resent the possibility of going down to Scotland's concrete jungle and trying to have an experience there.  There's a retreat in Peru, Tierra Vida Healing, that I'm pretty determined to get to and when I raise the cash I intend to go.  Main problem is the price of flights. 


i didnt have enough time, didnt realise it was this s*** but met people that had done it
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 07:49:40 PM
http://youtu.be/N4T5LduZ9vg (http://youtu.be/N4T5LduZ9vg)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 07:50:16 PM
I'll watch that sometime.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Well I drank a tea so it's a slower onslaught than doing DMT, which is the synthesised version of ayahuasca and you'd fire that in a pipe or bong and smoke it.  I wasn't at a retreat either, and did it in the house over my birthday last month.  These things need to be taken into account because without proper relaxation you're in danger of suppressing any potential drift off.  So many people do it and become underwhelmed because they've basically sat at a rowdy party and done some.  It's a pure waste, deserves far more respect..

Four hours in I did experience quite intense visuals, but none of the outer-body-experience results that it is most famous for.  See, when you go to these retreats, they give you a diet to follow for 14 days, it's essentially a vegan diet but not strictly.  Need to eat unprocessed foods, nuts of all kinds and s*** like that.  Me being my typical self, I didn't want to commit to that and just insisted on having it at mine (offering it no respect as I allude to above).  As a result, I conned myself out of anything profound, but when I fell asleep I had the most intense, vivid dreams, talking to things that can only be best described as entities. 

I didn't get any of the elf stuff that lots do, but I did get the sensation of travelling through space at the speed of light (I assume that's what it was, it was fast either way!), and looking back on our solar system.  Because I fell asleep, it's been difficult to remember, but I remember seeing visions from my childhood that I'd all but forgotten 'in real life'.  The best thing, or most interesting thing, was feeling like I'd been away for several days with so much in my head to talk about with my mate at the time, and being told I'd only been asleep for 30 minutes. 

I wasted a good opportunity that I'd waited nearly bloody ten years to have.  I'm due to do it again in early spring when the summer kicks back in, or possibly when I move into my new house and away from the chaotic and unpredictable area I'm in now if I can convince my mate to stop being a fanny.  Lots of banging and shouting would make you terrified under such influences, always have phones, buzzers turned off and TV's pulled out the wall so  you don't sit on the control, turn it on, and freak yourself the f*** out.

I've done quite a lot psychedelics in my time, but this one is the only one that's kept within our own 'reality', using space as a backdrop, as if to say those  you're talking to are real and watching you.  Others are just mind-f***s that can take you anywhere and lack any coherency and logic.  Even the most anti of drug users would have their perceptions changed after trying it.  I'd thoroughly recommend heading to a retreat if you ever hear about them.  Sadly, it's illegal here, but they do exist.  My ex's little brother frequently goes to one in Kilmarnock, but it costs him 100 quid a night, over the weekend, and with my best mate being able to 'make' it (you can buy the ingredients fairly legally), I quite resent the possibility of going down to Scotland's concrete jungle and trying to have an experience there.  There's a retreat in Peru, Tierra Vida Healing, that I'm pretty determined to get to and when I raise the cash I intend to go.  Main problem is the price of flights. 

Sorry I can't offer anything spectacular, but when I take it again, hopefully properly, I intend to write things up on Erowid, so would pop it here too.  Never fear it, but if you do have a slight fear of it, never do it recreationally, do it around people that are experienced on it and can keep you calm should you start to feel like you're losing control.  The idea is to let it control you, and the fight to remain in control is often what causes problems.  People try to control the outcome by thinking that thinking about not having a bad time is going to work, it won't.  As Leary said, you don't go on a boat trip thinking about sinking.

:o

I didn't realise you were so committed to opening the doors of perception.

You've really piqued my interest, man. I'm gonna have to look into this properly. Do you know what the situation in the Netherlands is? Only 40 miles from here, like :)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 08:49:23 PM
Must say, beyond loving beer/whiskey/wine I'm not really into anything that f***s with my thought process, but that sounds amazing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 14 October 2012, 08:59:58 PM
One of the videos I watched, talked of the user watching as everything around him disassembled itself (furniture taking itself apart etc) and realising that everything has a shared energy that is completely beyond our normal comprehension.

So bizarre.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:00:29 PM
One of the videos I watched, talked of the user watching as everything around him disassembled itself (furniture taking itself apart etc) and realising that everything has a shared energy that is completely beyond our normal comprehension.

So bizarre.

Sounds class tbh. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:37:55 PM
:o

I didn't realise you were so committed to opening the doors of perception.

You've really piqued my interest, man. I'm gonna have to look into this properly. Do you know what the situation in the Netherlands is? Only 40 miles from here, like :)

I've been at since I was about 18 (ten years now, f***), when I used to try salvia (extract, not the leaves) all the time.  That was like the mindfuck I mentioned before, no logic to it all and at times scary as f***.  Would experiment doing it sober, then doing it on MDMA or acid.  Both with radically different effects on the salvia itself.  Salvia spectacular cause you flash into an OBE, go wherever you go, then you're back.  You look at your friend, and you've not even put the bong down it's over that fast.  It is, however, quite dangerous because you can thrash about like a mental patient.  I think there was a video on youtube of a couple doing it and some guy ends up stumbling out his window. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGnlqAvjFRo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGnlqAvjFRo) - Short version of the fall, and this is the couples' actual video, just so you know he doesn't die - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb76bpIWQPw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb76bpIWQPw) :lol: :facepalm:

Goes back to my point about ALWAYS having someone there that can watch out for you. 

After all that, I got into reading about Terence McKenna, and he'd been using ayahuasca for decades.  He's wrote many a book on it and makes valid points that well-educated people, scientists, anyone that's interested in expanding knowledge in the fields of physics or science in general, should be trying these things to expand their own perception and use the 'tools' that come from the experience. 

It's something the retreats encourage you to do too, to an extent.  That is, think about two or three things you want to learn, whether it be about your own psyche, or what your future might entail or how to overcome obstacles within your life, and see if you can find the answers when you're off on your trip.  Of course, no one is saying there is cast iron answers to any potential question.  It's a growing movement and we're all trying to discover what there is possible to discover when on the drug.  One thing for sure, though, you're not just "hallucinating", ie. "imagining it" like people ascribe to anyone who generally does acid or mushrooms.  That'll be hard for some to accept, but I can only say you need to try it before you can even think of trying to sum it up with a limited knowledge of science.

I'd generally never encourage anyone to try hallucinogenic drugs, especially if they're not into drugs at all, but DMT/ayahuasca is something I would.  It's a life-altering experience in terms of how you view reality and opens you up to all sorts of different kinds of metaphysical beliefs.  If you're looking for somewhere to start on it, watch the YT link at the top of the page, then look into Terence McKenna.  Sadly dead now, but a mountain of knowledge accumulated until his departure. 

Amsterdam?  I don't know.  Is that not a no-go for forrins now?  Not sure why you asked me. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:49:14 PM
I said "Netherlands", not "Amsterdam". Why do Brits always hear "Amsterdam" when you say "Netherlands"? :)

I ask because you seem to have done the research (there's a place in Kilmarnock, one in Peru etc.).

I know what you mean about not being able to explain it to someone who hasn't done it: how do you explain 'shrooms/LSD to someone who's never done it?

But you say it's a completely different experience to hallucinogens. I am very intrigued …

And having watched that video of that tit jumping/falling out of the window while his girlfriend just watched, I think I'll give salvia a miss.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 14 October 2012, 09:57:50 PM
So you did! :lol: :blush:

To be fair, I only heard about the Kilmarnock thing through luck, word of mouth.  The guy that runs it is an ex-copper too, which encourages me for some reason.  If they got rumbled, they'd be f***ed as it's a class A, I believe.  Which is ludicrous and further proof of the West's illogical drug class system. 

With regards to Peru, South America in general, at a guess, I think there's probably hundreds of them if not more kicking about but the one I mentioned was one suggested to me by friend that's done a tour of the region.  It's legal over there, so there's no problems.  Over here, we have bizarre drug laws as you know.

Yeah, good shout on salvia, not missing much.  Another experience I'll not be revisiting any time soon.  Still got my bottle from when I was a teen. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 07:25:55 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/15/drugs-policy-rethink-gambling-junk-food-drug-policy-commission_n_1965916.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/15/drugs-policy-rethink-gambling-junk-food-drug-policy-commission_n_1965916.html)

Wonder who they'll fire this time for suggesting such outlandish ideas.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:45:31 AM
So you did! :lol: :blush:

To be fair, I only heard about the Kilmarnock thing through luck, word of mouth.  The guy that runs it is an ex-copper too, which encourages me for some reason.  If they got rumbled, they'd be f***ed as it's a class A, I believe.  Which is ludicrous and further proof of the West's illogical drug class system. 

With regards to Peru, South America in general, at a guess, I think there's probably hundreds of them if not more kicking about but the one I mentioned was one suggested to me by friend that's done a tour of the region.  It's legal over there, so there's no problems.  Over here, we have bizarre drug laws as you know.

Yeah, good shout on salvia, not missing much.  Another experience I'll not be revisiting any time soon.  Still got my bottle from when I was a teen. 
Salvia is really hit and miss with regards to who it actually works on I thought, but when it works it really f***ing works. We had one lad who tried it and ended up fully convinced he was being eaten by a giant cornflake for about thirty seconds. Another just sat there laughing his heed off for about an hour, we thought we'd accidentally swapped it with Joker venom or something. Did nothing for me the one time I tried it, though. And I definitely wouldn't want to touch the stuff without someone relatively sober to look after you.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:46:52 AM
So I can't convince you to buy the rest of my bottle then?  Dammit! ;)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:52:31 AM
:lol: No f***ing way. I was hesitant to try it at first anyway, getting drunk is one thing but the idea that I might completely lose control of what I'm doing is another thing entirely for me like.

The worst thing I've ever seen someone take was that bubble stuff like. Had a mate who sniffed it fairly regularly, he showed me the dollar bill he used for it and one side of the paper was literally dyed red with his blood. And that was a 'legal' high, nee thanks.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:57:04 AM
The irony is some of this 'legal' high s*** is the most dangerous out there.  I've never touched a single thing.  Sad days when street corner dealers are more reliable than 'legal' websites. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cannabis-no-worse-than-junk-food-says-report-8211012.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cannabis-no-worse-than-junk-food-says-report-8211012.html)

:frantic:

Let's rock the boat of society!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BooBoo on Monday 15 October 2012, 06:14:40 PM
I watched the documentary last night.

Pretty fascinating tbh.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Monday 15 October 2012, 06:45:12 PM
going to amsterdam this weekend, doing the half marathon then got 2 nights to do whatever. definately going to see what the shrooms are saying.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 15 October 2012, 06:56:09 PM
Had mushrooms once or twice, the first time was on a school night.  WoW!  :lol:

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Monday 15 October 2012, 07:04:34 PM
shrooms mixed in yoghurt to help with the taste and in some cases the want/urge/need to hurl and when they start kicking drop a pill
then sit back and prepare yourself for a hell of a night

like wise with acid
drop a half a trip and then as s*** reaches that "fuzzy stage" when your just feeling it, double drop 2 pills or MDMA and you'll be sorted for most of the night. awesome combo that
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Revolution Number 9 on Monday 15 October 2012, 07:10:11 PM
shrooms mixed in yoghurt to help with the taste and in some cases the want/urge/need to hurl and when they start kicking drop a pill
then sit back and prepare yourself for a hell of a night

like wise with acid
drop a half a trip and then as s*** reaches that "fuzzy stage" when your just feeling it, double drop 2 pills or MDMA and you'll be sorted for most of the night. awesome combo that
Cracking the f*** up at your sig :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:08:04 PM
Done shrooms a couple of times in Amsterdam, really enjoyed the experience. First time was very hallucinogenic, was seeing and hearing all sorts. 2nd time did with more people in the room and was hilarious. Would deffo recommend it to anyone trusting that they're with people who are cool with it and they're getting genuine stuff of course.

As for salvia, watching a lad do it at a party a couple of weeks ago, absolutely lost his tits like in that video, attacked a table and send drinks and s*** everywhere. Didn't look very appealing tbh!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: John P on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Read an interesting article on the advantageous effects of LSD a while back: http://www.themorningnews.org/article/the-heretic (http://www.themorningnews.org/article/the-heretic)

Quite a long read but think it might interest a few in here.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 08:31:18 PM

As for salvia, watching a lad do it at a party a couple of weeks ago, absolutely lost his tits like in that video, attacked a table and send drinks and s*** everywhere. Didn't look very appealing tbh!

Exactly what's wrong with modern drug-takers.  No respect for the power they can wield.  Salvia should not be done at parties, as simple as that.  It's of no wonder people don't want drugs legalised.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:11:19 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?

Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.

The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:12:33 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?

Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.

The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:

Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:13:18 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?

Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.

The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:

Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?

I know Saskia's dead, if that helps?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:15:40 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?

Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.

The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:

Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?

I know Saskia's dead, if that helps?

Hit by an ash tray, I rest by case.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:16:40 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?

Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.

The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:

Have you never watched Eastenders ffs!?

I know Saskia's dead, if that helps?

Hit by an ash tray, I rest by case.

(http://cdn.overclock.net/6/60/600a95ef_I-See-What-You-Did-There-Rage-Face-Meme.png)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:26:40 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?

Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.

The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:

Did you see that graph I posted earlier?

Alcohol is far and away the most harmful drug available, legally or not. The illegality of narcotics other than alcohol is nothing more than a political pretence. It completely ignores all the evidence and the opinions of people who actually know what they're talking about (I mean scientists who've studied the matter, not drug users).

Any brandy-quaffing eejit who tells you "drugs are dangerous" simply doesn't know what they're talking about or is knowingly lying.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:29:50 PM
What's your stance on the legalisation of drugs, Bluf? Is it an "all or nothing" case?

Cannabis should be legalised, I know that. I can see the reasons for/against and don't buy this "gateway drug" crap. Can't say I know much about other specific drugs.

The attitudes to drugs are unlikely to undergo a major change when a climate of fear is fostered, whereby the status quo must be maintained as much as possible. Open-mindedness doesn't seem to be on this country's agenda. :dontknow:

Did you see that graph I posted earlier?

Alcohol is far and away the most harmful drug available, legally or not. The illegality of narcotics other than alcohol is nothing more than a political pretence. It completely ignores all the evidence and the opinions of people who actually know what they're talking about (I mean scientists who've studied the matter, not drug users).

Any brandy-quaffing eejit who tells you "drugs are dangerous" simply doesn't know what they're talking about or is knowingly lying.

Pretty much as I thought, in a nutshell. Only more eloquently put. :laugh:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:51:17 PM
I was talking to someone about this on Erowid, and he suggested that you should have to apply for a license/pass to be allowed access to the 'higher class' of drugs, stuff that could essentially kill if not careful.  It's not so much you need to pass an exam, but that you've had the pros and cons explained to you etc etc, you're informed properly as opposed to today.  Seems more reasonable than prohibition. 

Who knows, the sad thing is, if they just legalised cannabis it would probably hold off the grassroots call for a complete legalisation of drugs as most just want to be able to walk down the street with a joint and not be wary of getting nicked.  In saying that, E, coke, acid, etc are still 'fine' relatively speaking, and it's a farce people can have their nights, weekends, lives, careers ruined by being associated or caught with them.  It goes back to the classic making criminals out of nobodies. 

There's obviously certain drugs, like heroin, crack, that people should be kept away from.  That would be a route for Doctors and the use of proper rehabilitation techniques (see Holland/Switzerland for success stories), but the public would need to stop their f***ing greeting and accept this s*** happens and stop the blocking of such centres being built in 'their backyards'.  Had a massive argument with the ex's mum once over this.  She f***ing had a petition to stop a rehab centre being built nearby, even though she agreed you needed them.  It was successful.  f***ing arsewipe. 

Personally, I just want to be able to buy all the psychedelics I can without doing so illegally.  That moves on us onto the a different class of drug.  I'd, even though I started earlier than this, have an age limit of 21 possibly even 25, as there's a lot to suggest that problems can occur from use of these because the brain has yet to fully 'form' until the age of 25.  But I'd much rather have problems with authority because I was too young to do something than be told that I'm not allowed to do it at all.  It's difficult to work out because there's such a wide spectrum in psychedelics.  Mescaline, salvia, DMT, acid should be kept for later years, and I say that as someone that did it, successfully, at 17.  I did know one guy that lost it, never came back, from doing acid.  Sadly, he was fake tosser to begin with and when he took acid, I think his ego crumbled and just, I don't know, his mind melted. 

Mushrooms, weed are fine from 18 onwards though, the myth of "SKUNK" is hilarious. 

It's all incoherent, but the gears are beginning to turn with the powers that be, so what the public think, quite frankly, isn't going to matter a jot soon.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TheHoob on Monday 15 October 2012, 11:59:54 PM
One thing that would worry me about legalisation is that some people are f***ing idiots.

When that mcat was still legal I lost count of how many people told me they only do it because it's legal and therefore is safe/safer. I know people who wouldn't touch e's or coke with a barge pole but were perfectly happy to get smashed off their tits on mcat.

 :serious:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:01:18 AM
Aye, but anything that is legal at the moment is legal through loopholes, not because it's adhering to any laws or regulation.  But I agree, as I mentioned a few posts up, some druggers are idiots and show no respect to the drugs they use.  But some drunks are idiots.  People need to be allowed to be, and if they act out, they get nicked. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:03:42 AM
Yeah I know that but my point is that some people don't seem to.

When you have people equating legal with safe, there are always going to be some idiots who think they can just chuck any amount of it up their noses and think they'll be fine. I agree about the drunken idiots bit though, maybe it just boils down to people needing to be better informed about drugs, rather than just getting drugs are bad m'kayyy rammed down their throats.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:07:35 AM
Well, that goes back to my point that you might have to get a licence to buy drugs, and if so, you've had the drug explained to you.  If someone cretin wants to ram 10 grams of coke up his snout and have a heart attack, that's his decision.  Just like some idiot tanning a bottle of absinthe, getting in his car and driving into a wall.

There needs to be more educating with drugs.  There's none at the moment, legal or not.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:07:39 AM
One thing that would worry me about legalisation is that some people are f***ing idiots.

When that mcat was still legal I lost count of how many people told me they only do it because it's legal and therefore is safe/safer. I know people who wouldn't touch e's or coke with a barge pole but were perfectly happy to get smashed off their tits on mcat.

 :serious:

Aye I know people who were the exact same with that mephrodone s****.

A lot of sensible talk there Bluf, therefore I can only assume it will never happen!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TheHoob on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 12:32:36 AM
Well, that goes back to my point that you might have to get a licence to buy drugs, and if so, you've had the drug explained to you.  If someone cretin wants to ram 10 grams of coke up his snout and have a heart attack, that's his decision.  Just like some idiot tanning a bottle of absinthe, getting in his car and driving into a wall.

There needs to be more educating with drugs.  There's none at the moment, legal or not.

In an ideal world they could take a similar approach to some drugs as they do with alcohol, which is basically go for it, but don't overdo it and don't be a cock. People know not to drive, that it makes you feel this and that how to deal with it. Just cant see it happening for anything other than cannabis though, and even that seems like a long shot to me.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 06:51:04 AM
One thing that would worry me about legalisation is that some people are f***ing idiots.

When that mcat was still legal I lost count of how many people told me they only do it because it's legal and therefore is safe/safer. I know people who wouldn't touch e's or coke with a barge pole but were perfectly happy to get smashed off their tits on mcat.

 :serious:

Aye I know people who were the exact same with that mephrodone s****.

A lot of sensible talk there Bluf, therefore I can only assume it will never happen!

Depends. Attitudes change a lot as old folks pop their clogs and the electorate gets younger. You just have to look at gay marriage (or homosexuality in general). The only younger people against it are religious nutjobs, and opposing equal rights for gays has become politically untenable.

Brown apologised for the way Alan Turing was treated, and Cameron threatened to withdraw marriage privileges from the CofE.

Drugs may well go the same way. There have already been tentative steps. Hell, even the Americans are considering it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 10:35:24 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/15/party-drugs-embedded-youth-culture? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/15/party-drugs-embedded-youth-culture?)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 11:18:07 AM
Great to have the Blufster back firing on all cylinders.

Only Jimmy Johnstone comes close in the wee baldy Scotsman category.
Title: Re: Re: Drugs
Post by: Incognito on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 02:32:34 PM
Great to have the Blufster back firing on all cylinders.

Only Jimmy Johnstone comes close in the wee baldy Scotsman category.

Archie Gemmill ?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 02:34:43 PM
(http://imagensubida.infojardin.com/subas/images/rgh1336328828d.jpg)

?

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 16 October 2012, 02:39:54 PM
Cheers Tooj, I really appreciate being called Scottish. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 20 October 2012, 10:10:38 PM
http://in-a-perfect-world.podomatic.com/entry/2012-10-19T04_00_27-07_00 (http://in-a-perfect-world.podomatic.com/entry/2012-10-19T04_00_27-07_00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P80jROjrXA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P80jROjrXA)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Saturday 20 October 2012, 11:15:32 PM
Cheers Tooj, I really appreciate being called Scottish. 

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 21 October 2012, 12:09:14 PM
Not sure what afrop brought to mine last night, christ.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 October 2012, 12:59:57 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9597345/Afterlife-exists-says-top-brain-surgeon.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9597345/Afterlife-exists-says-top-brain-surgeon.html)

In here due to the fact he's talking about Outer Body Experiences.  Near death experience, releases DMT...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:31:38 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/03/cannabis-use-could-lead-schizophrenia_n_2068995.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/03/cannabis-use-could-lead-schizophrenia_n_2068995.html)

:hmm:

Why do these studies get recycled every couple of years..
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:34:23 PM
It could well lead to schizophrenia if you smoke s*** loads of it, just like alcohol could lead to liver failure and smoking could give you lung cancer.   The word is "moderation"
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:44:29 PM
Yup, but it's nice to scare and bring these futile points to the forefront again.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:46:09 PM
As always, just like when the alcohol laws in this country changed.  Just before they changed a certain news paper and a group of people thought the country would be on a constant bender.

Never happened.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 4 November 2012, 06:47:07 PM
:lol:

Fair bloody point that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Sunday 4 November 2012, 08:25:40 PM
Think Im going to attempt to quit the weed like, or at least cut down. I can feel it messing with my head a little bit and the stuff turns me into the mongiest, laziest docile, unproductive c*** going. Not just when I'm smoking or the day after, but in general. Had this problem last year and I stopped for about 2 month, felt fit as a fiddle and ended up smashing my coursework to the best of my ability, something Im struggling with right now. Not easy though when all of your friends smoke it on a regular basis.

Thats the problem with the stuff for me, it's so easy to fall into the trap of becoming a permanent stoner as opposed enjoying it every now and again.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Sunday 4 November 2012, 11:35:25 PM
Off to Amsterdam after Bruges, any particular hotspot for the cafes? Just get shrooms in there as well as weed?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Monday 5 November 2012, 12:40:48 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/03/cannabis-use-could-lead-schizophrenia_n_2068995.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/03/cannabis-use-could-lead-schizophrenia_n_2068995.html)

:hmm:

Why do these studies get recycled every couple of years..

What the f***? They tested a bunch of schizophrenics and some had previously used cannabis?

Test any group you f***ing want, and chances are some of them will have previously used cannabis.

Oh, the schizos with higher brain activity were the ones that smoked weed. Perhaps it calmed their higher brain activity down, i.e. they were self-medicating.

What a load of horseshit.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:34:03 AM
You read more than me, I just read the headline. :lol:

It's just tired research.  You'd be hard pushed to find experienced smokers that don't accept cannabis COULD cause you problems, but it's still our f***ing choice.  Would rather lose my marbles when I'm kicking the into the heavens, than drink myself into a fat bloated fucktard.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:50:00 AM
I know what you're saying.  I think it's the hidden quality of drugs though.  If we all smoked, we'd all be a hell of a lot more laid back and not all intent on earning money and making careers.  We'd be happy people, just happy to be.  The ancient amazon tribes are onto something... :whistle:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:51:24 AM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:53:07 AM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:

Well, this'll be fun :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Monday 5 November 2012, 11:59:59 AM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:

Weed makes a lot of people horny, though it has the opposite effect on me :(

Stuff like E and coke can make you horny, too, but the downside is it's really, really hard to come.

Why don't you try some Viagra/Cialis? It doesn't just help blokes who can't get it up to get it up, it helps those who can to get it up again and again and again within minutes of the last time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 12:04:43 PM
Can't help there.  f***ing stoned is great though.  f***ing on LSD is just otherworldly, and not always a nice otherworldly. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 5 November 2012, 12:04:58 PM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:

Weed makes a lot of people horny, though it has the opposite effect on me :(

Stuff like E and coke can make you horny, too, but the downside is it's really, really hard to come.

Why don't you try some Viagra/Cialis? It doesn't just help blokes who can't get it up to get it up, it helps those who can to get it up again and again and again within minutes of the last time.


Oh really? Didn't realise that.

Cheers, fella. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:27:45 PM
i think the most horny iv ever been was on coke, exploded. it can however have the opposite effect
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:52:08 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:56:13 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/)

Drugs are bad, mkay?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Monday 5 November 2012, 08:56:24 PM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Legal cocktail:  L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum.  1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount.  Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others. 

edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though.  Like a few days before you notice anything major. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 5 November 2012, 09:08:21 PM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:

Always found E a good sexual drug but once you get a stalk on, you are done for.

Acid as well, on an acid come down im f***ing rampant.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ryan_Taylor on Monday 5 November 2012, 10:07:35 PM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Legal cocktail:  L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum.  1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount.  Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others. 

edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though.  Like a few days before you notice anything major. 

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 01:51:14 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but:

Colorado and Washington supposedly legalise recreational weed, step in the right direction?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed (http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 02:07:50 PM
Interesting.   
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hudson on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 03:44:06 PM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:

There you go limpy   :p

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-SEX-PILLS-8000MG-HERBAL-ERECTILE-DYSUNCTION-IMPOTENCE-AID-ENLARGEMENT-/281012555566?pt=UK_Health_HealthCare_RL&var=580152251218&hash=item416da74f2e (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-SEX-PILLS-8000MG-HERBAL-ERECTILE-DYSUNCTION-IMPOTENCE-AID-ENLARGEMENT-/281012555566?pt=UK_Health_HealthCare_RL&var=580152251218&hash=item416da74f2e)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 04:22:54 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but:

Colorado and Washington supposedly legalise recreational weed, step in the right direction?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed (http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2012/11/07/colorado-washington-first-states-to-legalise-recreational-weed)


Aye, talked about in the US thread when the results came in.  Exciting times, the change is coming, hold your smoke in, boys.  The cops will be gone soon!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 07:04:36 PM
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/07/toke-up-washington-and-colorado-become-first-states-to-end-marijuana-prohibition/ (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/07/toke-up-washington-and-colorado-become-first-states-to-end-marijuana-prohibition/)

Quote
People will not be able to smoke in public, like at baseball games or in parks.
People growing their own plants can have up to six at a time, with no more than three being mature at any given time.
Growers will be allowed to possess their entire harvest, even if it exceeds one ounce.
Plants will have to be grown in secured areas that are not visible to the public.
Employers will not have to accommodate people who wish to smoke. Drug testing and firing based on marijuana will still be allowed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: johnnypd on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 08:22:09 PM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.

hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time  :bong:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 08:25:29 PM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.

hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time  :bong:

:lol: O0

I smoked a s*** lot last night down to this news.  Felt like an obligation. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: nuneaton on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 09:41:24 PM
only just seen this thread, f***ing hell, where do i start?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 09:45:31 PM
only just seen this thread, f***ing hell, where do i start?

Couple of Es, then some speed from the west end, round it all off with a nice big spliff.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 7 November 2012, 09:53:59 PM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Legal cocktail:  L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum.  1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount.  Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others. 

edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though.  Like a few days before you notice anything major. 

This is made all the more hilarious when I remember it's from the same man that made a sponge vagina.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hudson on Thursday 8 November 2012, 08:50:06 AM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.

hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time  :bong:

The stuff you get in Cali is amazing, never before in my life have i tripped of weed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 4 December 2012, 08:55:26 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/03/drugs-pleasure-reduce-harm (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/03/drugs-pleasure-reduce-harm)

Got to love Dr. Nutt, he's not going down quietly.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: womblemaster on Saturday 8 December 2012, 04:31:20 AM
Meth Zombie Plague Sweeping Across America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WbNxHjtKVM#ws)

How soon before it sweeps across wearside...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Sunday 16 December 2012, 05:38:11 PM
Vicodin. I don't get how people would want to use it recreationally. I'm taking it after dental surgery and it just makes me want to sleep. I'm no drug prude, but it doesn't seem super recreational.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ste on Sunday 16 December 2012, 08:53:30 PM
It isn't a recreational drug, more of a coping drug. As you say it makes you drowsy. A lot of people lean on it to give them a lil buzz and to kip during the day.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:57:52 AM
This whole cutforbieber thing because he smoked some weed  :facepalm:

Quote
weed is a gateway drug.. i heard from a friend that her mom died of a weeds overdose.. how can we get attention for this cause? #cut4bieber

I despair, I really do.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Kasper on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 01:05:39 AM
This whole cutforbieber thing because he smoked some weed  :facepalm:

Quote
weed is a gateway drug.. i heard from a friend that her mom died of a weeds overdose.. how can we get attention for this cause? #cut4bieber

I despair, I really do.


Seems like it started as a hoax and then people really started doing it :lol:

http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/ (http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 01:22:39 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:20:42 PM
This whole cutforbieber thing because he smoked some weed  :facepalm:

Quote
weed is a gateway drug.. i heard from a friend that her mom died of a weeds overdose.. how can we get attention for this cause? #cut4bieber

I despair, I really do.


Seems like it started as a hoax and then people really started doing it :lol:

http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/ (http://o.canada.com/2013/01/07/cuttingforbieber-is-fake-just-another-sick-4chan-joke/)

#cutbieber would be a much better campaign
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:30:26 PM
:thup:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: olliemort on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 12:39:08 PM
Snoop Lion f***ing hell haha
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 04:06:14 PM
:thup:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/singer-snoop-dogg-gives-a-bag-of-marijuana-to-homeless-men/314190-45-75.html)

Hero.  My mate met him when he was in Vegas a few years back.  I say met, more of a bumped into and shoehorned his way to the front, but said he got out of his 'truck', and was f***ing stinking of weed.  I want his life. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 04:17:52 PM
Singer?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 8 January 2013, 04:18:37 PM
Yeah.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:01:54 PM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.

hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time  :bong:

The stuff you get in Cali is amazing, never before in my life have i tripped of weed.

Is it even possible to get good stuff here? Been to amsterdam a few times and what I can get round here doesnt compare with it so I hardly ever bother unless its being shared about  :undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:10:57 PM
You can get some top quality s*** here, you don't need to leave the country.  You just need to know good dealers and growers.  Or an all in one growing-dealer. :frantic:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:14:36 PM
Drugs are a foreign concept these days, don't know a dealer, don't know what weight s***s dealt in.

Was never Pete Doherty but I would get royally ripped off if I attempted to get anything now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:17:35 PM
You wanna buy some Moon Dust, Caj? £70 a gram.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:21:18 PM
£70!?

I'll give you £34 for half a gram or I'm walking away.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 17 January 2013, 11:27:22 PM
I've been trying to find a decent "No Deal" picture for 3-4 minutes now but i'm struggling, so instead you're getting this image of Noel Edmonds, I hope it means something.

(http://i1.cdnds.net/10/19/tv_noel_edmonds.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 02:59:18 AM
http://youtu.be/UDlH9sV0lHU (http://youtu.be/UDlH9sV0lHU)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 10:37:06 AM
the more liberal parts of the US have reached a tipping point and there's no going back now. cannabis culture is widely entrenched already in places like california, legal changes just end up reflecting and codifying already long held attitudes.

hope these same attitudes start to become more prevalent in more reactionary lands, too. but i won't be holding my breath...well, maybe for 7 seconds at a time  :bong:

The stuff you get in Cali is amazing, never before in my life have i tripped of weed.

Is it even possible to get good stuff here? Been to amsterdam a few times and what I can get round here doesnt compare with it so I hardly ever bother unless its being shared about  :undecided:

Of course it is. As Bluf said you just need to know the right people. :thup:

One my mates was exactly the type of person Bluf described. He would only grow it to sell to our close circle of friends though. He's had to stop for the time being due to moving flats, but whenever you got stuff he always used to give you loads more than you would pay for the going rate. Was always a very good crop too.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 10:38:04 AM
Although I must admit if you don't know the right people it does seem to be a lot harder these days, even to get the quantity that you used to. A few years ago I'd easily have an ounce on order every month and could get more if I ran out/wanted more.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:00:54 AM
It would surely be much better if it was legal to grow cannabis for personal use.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:06:32 AM
We used to buy 9-bars so we could split them and get ounces far far cheaper.

Nowadays I wouldn't have a clue where to go. And I'm fancying some for the first time in over a decade.

I suspect the amount of dope that would get me high (these days) could be measured in draws rather than weight :lol:


Yeah, last time afrop was over mine...he came over with his missus, we had a smoke in the garden while the lasses were chatting..

I was f***ing SMASHED.  Wor lass was livid, couldn't even eat the dinner she made for us.

Then later massivley got the munchines.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:07:27 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:10:53 AM
I just sat in the chair popping in and out of reality,  it felt like the lasses was GABBLING super fast, me and afro seemed to get quieter....f*** ME IM STONED!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:25:45 AM
Sounds about right. I got properly stoned in Amsterdam last weekend for the first time in a few years, brain was absolutely fried.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Friday 18 January 2013, 01:35:50 PM
 :lol:

 I smoke on and off, it's good when you are playing music and that, helps with creativity. Had one joint in Amsterdam though in the summer there when we were over and I was off my tits. My girfriend didn't stop talking absolute s**** for about 3 hours. Big difference in the green we get and that stuff. There was a website not so long ago that myself and my friends ordered from and that was similar to the amsterdam stuff. I think they charge loads now though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jay Jay Sea on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:00:50 PM
Does anyboday know how easy/difficult for a chap to obtain LSD these days? Back in the day i used to do microdots when my pals were spoking skunk. I'd then have a blast of skunk about 2-3 hours of taking the LSD. I loved getting freaked out and tripping my bonce off. The only down for me was Friday nights when the group i knocked about with would insist on watching 'The Hitman and Her'. I LOATHED it. I was a Dylan/Hendrix/Stones freak and that 90's rave stuff just wasn't any good for my brain. Once, we watch it, no light on and i was propper tripping at the light shown coming from the TV but the music was send me into a mass state of paranoia. I took off to the bathroom through this thick dark skunk haze and locked the door. i stared at the mirror with the light off and man......i could see my face melting, my skin droping off and i swear i looked like Satan or the Devil or whatever they are supposed to look like. I was frightened to switch the light on, i got a towel, put it over my head and stuck my head in the toilet bowel. I was whiteying and tripping at the same time. i wanted to die..........i thought i was dying. After about 3 hours of locking myself in the bog and not letting anyone in, the lads had to kick the door off its hinges. I walked right on out of the flat and the sun was coming up at about 4.30am and sat on a bench, coming down. Anyway, i want some trips and wondered if they were obtainable. as readily as they were way back?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:01:17 PM
There's no difference, it just depends on the grower.  If you're a bad grower, it doesn't matter what seeds/strain you start with.  A particular process most people f*** the f*** up is the drying off.  It's vital to keep the stuff potent.

In  the last 6 months, I've smoked AK, Sensi, bluecheese, purple haze and northern lights.  No better or worse than you get in Amsterdam. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:02:50 PM
Does anyboday know how easy/difficult for a chap to obtain LSD these days?

Comes and goes, for me.  It becomes widely available in the summer, though, make a killing off people.  You just need to make contacts, and more importantly, hold on to them.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: johnnypd on Friday 18 January 2013, 03:28:24 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.

quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 04:05:55 PM
:lol:

 I smoke on and off, it's good when you are playing music and that, helps with creativity. Had one joint in Amsterdam though in the summer there when we were over and I was off my tits. My girfriend didn't stop talking absolute s**** for about 3 hours. Big difference in the green we get and that stuff. There was a website not so long ago that myself and my friends ordered from and that was similar to the amsterdam stuff. I think they charge loads now though.

Its a head f*** when two birds who aren't stoned are talking like Scatman John or whatever he is called.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Friday 18 January 2013, 05:13:03 PM
We used to buy 9-bars so we could split them and get ounces far far cheaper.

Nowadays I wouldn't have a clue where to go. And I'm fancying some for the first time in over a decade.

I suspect the amount of dope that would get me high (these days) could be measured in draws rather than weight :lol:


Yeah, last time afrop was over mine...he came over with his missus, we had a smoke in the garden while the lasses were chatting..

I was f***ing SMASHED.  Wor lass was livid, couldn't even eat the dinner she made for us.

Then later massivley got the munchines.

lol you were flattened like
was a good night, your Mrs was seriously unimpressed lol
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:17:51 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.

quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.

I blame the tobacco, man.  That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk.  There's the odd occasion, but mostly.  Tobacco ruins weed.  HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste.  Wrong on all levels.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:54:01 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.

quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.

I blame the tobacco, man.  That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk.  There's the odd occasion, but mostly.  Tobacco ruins weed.  HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste.  Wrong on all levels.

So you only smoke blunts? I think literally everyone i know that blazes and that i have blazed with use differing levels of baccy.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: johnnypd on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:54:44 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.

quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.

I blame the tobacco, man.  That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk.  There's the odd occasion, but mostly.  Tobacco ruins weed.  HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste.  Wrong on all levels.

I'm thinking the same thing, doesn't compare to smoking out of my water pipe.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:55:21 PM
Blazes. :lol:

I haven't smoked blunts for years like. That was a good time of my life.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:56:04 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.

quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.

I blame the tobacco, man.  That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk.  There's the odd occasion, but mostly.  Tobacco ruins weed.  HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste.  Wrong on all levels.

I'm thinking the same thing, doesn't compare to smoking out of my water pipe.

What type of pipe are you using? I need to re-invest.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:58:00 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.

quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.

I blame the tobacco, man.  That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk.  There's the odd occasion, but mostly.  Tobacco ruins weed.  HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste.  Wrong on all levels.

So you only smoke blunts? I think literally everyone i know that blazes and that i have blazed with use differing levels of baccy.

I'm a pipe/dignified bong man.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 06:58:19 PM
I'll try and find a picture of my baby that accidentally got smashed about a year ago. She was beautiful. :(
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:01:18 PM
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2900/21052008438.jpg) (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/21052008438.jpg/)

 :weep:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:02:18 PM
Oh yeah!  You got the same-ish one as me. :rose:

I remember that discussion. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dave on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:02:37 PM
I'll try and find a picture of my baby that accidentally got smashed about a year ago. She was beautiful. :(

In isolation this post is amazing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:03:58 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: johnnypd on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:04:07 PM
properly whiteyed last night then had to walk 30 mins home in the snow. never a great idea to smoke a huge spliff when you're already drunk.

quality's been excellent recently though the main problem is reliably getting your hands on good stuff on a regular basis. i was meant to buy last night and totally forgot, too. can't wait til we have US style dispensaries or coffeeshops in this country.

I blame the tobacco, man.  That's why I never smoke joints/spliffs/doobies/tobacco, instantly makes me sick, especially when drunk.  There's the odd occasion, but mostly.  Tobacco ruins weed.  HATE people that smoke joints, you're not even enjoying the herb for its taste.  Wrong on all levels.

I'm thinking the same thing, doesn't compare to smoking out of my water pipe.

What type of pipe are you using? I need to re-invest.

glass bubbler, bit like this one : http://www.alibongo.co.uk/catalog/hand-made-bubbler-pipe-lugworm-p-3979.html?oscsid=5f99154b0a6976d1a733ab5618578afc (http://www.alibongo.co.uk/catalog/hand-made-bubbler-pipe-lugworm-p-3979.html?oscsid=5f99154b0a6976d1a733ab5618578afc)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:36:45 PM
He'll need to get stoned before he looks at all those short cuts on his wallpaper.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:37:41 PM
We used to buy 9-bars so we could split them and get ounces far far cheaper.

Nowadays I wouldn't have a clue where to go. And I'm fancying some for the first time in over a decade.

I suspect the amount of dope that would get me high (these days) could be measured in draws rather than weight :lol:


Yeah, last time afrop was over mine...he came over with his missus, we had a smoke in the garden while the lasses were chatting..

I was f***ing SMASHED.  Wor lass was livid, couldn't even eat the dinner she made for us.

Then later massivley got the munchines.

lol you were flattened like
was a good night, your Mrs was seriously unimpressed lol

Yeah, how much did you put in that bifta?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:47:30 PM
:lol: That picture is about 6 years old man. I have learned the error of my ways now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 18 January 2013, 07:59:24 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Friday 18 January 2013, 08:34:13 PM
You can get some top quality s*** here, you don't need to leave the country.  You just need to know good dealers and growers.  Or an all in one growing-dealer. :frantic:

Well if you say so but can't exactly look them up in the yellow pages lol. When I was at uni I knew friends of friends who you could get it off but it was always average to crap stuff.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 09:56:17 PM
You can get some top quality s*** here, you don't need to leave the country.  You just need to know good dealers and growers.  Or an all in one growing-dealer. :frantic:

Well if you say so but can't exactly look them up in the yellow pages lol. When I was at uni I knew friends of friends who you could get it off but it was always average to crap stuff.

Well I've just come back from my dealer with a big bag of bluecheese and a bag of unknown homegrown.  I stunk the bus out on the way back, talk about looks that could kill. :lol:

I get you though, it's luck, it's willingness to pay more sometimes, when it comes to getting good stuff/dealers.  For years I did smoke s*** stuff, until I met someone through a friend at work.  My advice is, if you ever get a good dealer, NEVER lose his number. :thup:

In my experience, you get two kinds.  You get those that want to make a bit of money, but would rather peddle good stuff and would rather go without if s*** stuff is on the scene, or those that are just out for the profit and sell you s***, for the same price.  The latter is scum, and the sole reason cannabis should be legal.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 18 January 2013, 10:01:00 PM
Anybody on here have a vaporizer?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 10:04:16 PM
Never tried one, never mind have one. :undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:28:50 PM
LiveLeak.com - Drugs At Work (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=951_1358094884)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Bish on Friday 18 January 2013, 11:41:52 PM
He's at my uni  :laugh: Didn't realise that had gone viral!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Saturday 19 January 2013, 09:51:18 AM
 very funny watch  ;D shrooms are alot of fun
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 09:52:13 AM
He's at my uni  :laugh: Didn't realise that had gone viral!

Really? :lol:

Was this related to his course? :laugh:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Rocker on Saturday 19 January 2013, 10:10:27 AM
Take the 'U' out of drugs, what have you got? Drgs. Ever heard of anyone being addicted to Drgs?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 10:10:55 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/brain/high-hopes-why-science-is-seeking-a-pardon-for-psychedelics/article7529135/?page=all (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/brain/high-hopes-why-science-is-seeking-a-pardon-for-psychedelics/article7529135/?page=all)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 03:10:22 PM
From Graham Hancock:

Quote
Giving up the Green Bitch: Reflections on Cannabis, Ayahuasca and the mystery of plant teachers. By Graham Hancock

I have some personal stuff to share here and I intend to do so with complete openness in the hope that my experiences will prove helpful to some, thought-provoking to others, and might stir up discussion around issues of consciousness and cognitive liberty that are often neglected in our society. Please also “like” this post – if you do like it! – and share with your friends if you think they’ll find it of interest

I’m going to Brazil on Wednesday and I’ll be there for three weeks during which I’ll have seven sessions with the visionary brew known as Ayahuasca, the “Vine of Souls”, sacred amongst shamanistic cultures of the Amazon for thousands of years.

I’m not doing this for fun, or for recreation. Drinking Ayahuasca is an ordeal. It is, for a start, amongst the most horrible tastes and smells on the planet – a mixture of foot-rot, raw sewage, battery acid, sulfur and just a hint of chocolate. Within about 45 minutes of drinking it you frequently begin to suffer bouts of severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. It is not for nothing that it is also known as “the purge” in the Amazon! And then, alongside the light and joy and valuable life lessons that are often part of Ayahuasca journeys, there are the sometimes terrifying psychic challenges including visionary encounters with seemingly malevolent entities in convincingly freestanding parallel realms that can be distressing to say the least.

So… I’m bracing myself. But I don’t feel too much fear because of the deep understanding that has gradually settled on me during the ten years I’ve worked with Ayahuasca that a being of pure and boundless love, who may even be that being recognized by some ancient cultures as the mother goddess of our planet, has harnessed the brew, in the context of time-honoured ceremony, to gain access to human consciousness and to teach us to do the best we can with the precious gift of our life on this earth.

I know how strange this may sound to those who have never drunk the Amazonian brew and never encountered “Mother Ayahuasca” in one of her many forms. Moreover – let me be clear – I am not making any empirical claims about the reality-status of the sorts of experiences I’m talking about here. Perhaps they ARE all “within the brain” as skeptics say. Perhaps they ARE all imaginary (although if so we must explain the transpersonal character of these imaginings). Perhaps they ARE “just hallucinations”. Or perhaps what is going on here is that our brains are transceivers rather than generators of consciousness, in which case could it be that Ayahuasca temporarily “retunes the receiver wavelength of the brain”, giving us fleeting access to other levels or dimensions of reality not normally accessible to our senses? This is a serious question, and one that is taken seriously by increasing numbers of scientists working at the cutting edge of consciousness studies.

But setting aside the unsolved problem of whether Mother Ayahuasca is real or not, what is interesting is that at the level of phenomenology many, many people have undergone encounters with her during Ayahuasca sessions and have had their behavior and their outlook profoundly changed as a result. Those changes are real even if materialist science would like to reduce the entity who inspires them to a mere epiphenomenon of disturbed brain activity.

Very often this entity (who, I repeat, may or may not be real but is experienced as real) gives us profound moral lessons in the depths of the Ayahuasca journey. We may be shown episodes from our lives in which we have behaved unkindly or unjustly to others, or been mean-spirited and unloving, or have failed to live up to our own potential, and we will be shown these things with absolute clarity and transparency, with all illusions and excuses stripped away, so we are confronted with nothing more nor less than the cold, hard truth about ourselves. Such revelations can be very painful. Frequently people cry during Ayahuasca sessions because of them. But they bring insight and give us the chance to change our behavior in the future, to be more nurturing and less toxic, to be more considerate of others and to be more aware than we were before of the incredible privilege the universe has given us by allowing us to be born in a human body – an opportunity for growth and improvement of the soul that we absolutely must not waste.

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why Ayahuasca has been so very successful in getting people off addictions to harmful hard drugs. For example, Dr Jacques Mabit has for many years been offering heroin and cocaine addicts incredibly effective treatments with Ayahuasca at his Takiwasi clinic in Tarapoto, Peru, where they might typically undergo 12 sessions with Ayahuasca in the space of a month. See here: http://www.takiwasi.com/docs/arti_ing/ayahuasca_in_treatment_addictions.pdfA (http://www.takiwasi.com/docs/arti_ing/ayahuasca_in_treatment_addictions.pdfA) very high proportion of participants have such powerful revelations about the roots of their own problems and behavior during the sessions that they leave Takiwasi completely free of addiction, often without withdrawal symptoms, and never resume their habit. The success rate is far better than any of the conventional Western treatments for drug addiction.

Likewise in Canada Dr Gabor Mate was offering phenomenally successful Ayahuasca healing sessions to his drug-addicted patients before the Canadian government stepped in and stopped his work on the grounds that Ayahuasca itself is an illegal drug – see here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/bc-doctor-agrees-to-stop-using-amazonian-plant-to-treat-addictions/article4250579/. (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/bc-doctor-agrees-to-stop-using-amazonian-plant-to-treat-addictions/article4250579/.)

Yes, indeed, Ayahuasca IS an illegal drug, in the narrow Western definition of the term that allows big pharmaceutical companies to make billions out of marketing consciousness-altering substances like Prozac or Ritalin but will send us to prison for exploring our own consciousness with time-honoured sacred plants such as those that go into the Ayahuasca brew.

The plants concerned, which are simply cooked together with water, are the Ayahuasca vine, Banisteriopsis caapi , and a shrub from the coffee family, Psychotria viridis, called chacruna in the Amazon. (A very few other plants are also known to produce an effective brew, but B. caapi and P. viridis are probably the most widely used).

The illegal element, contained in the leaves of P. viridis, is dimethyltryptamine (DMT), arguably the most powerful hallucinogen known to man. Normally in the West when we encounter DMT it must be smoked – producing a rapid, overwhelming, but short-lived (12-15 mins) alteration of consciousness, with which there is no negotiation. The smoking route has to be taken because there is an enzyme in our gut called monoamine oxidase that switches off DMT on contact. The ancient shamanistic societies of the Amazon, however, have found a workaround for this problem in the form of B.caapi, the vine itself, the other ingredient of the Ayahuasca brew which, it turns out, contains a monamine oxidase inhibitor that switches off that enzyme in our gut and allows the DMT in the chacruna leaves to be absorbed orally. The result is a long, reflective (up to four hour) visionary journey with which a great deal of negotiation is possible and that is very different qualitatively from the intense but brief experience of smoked DMT.

How, thousands of years ago, did shamans manage to select these two plants out of the estimated 150,000 different species found in the Amazon and learn to marry them together with water to produce the extraordinary potion that we know as Ayahuasca? It is a bit of mystery but shamans today claim it was not done by trial and error. Their ancestors, they say, were taught the secret by spirit beings as a gift to mankind.

Certainly those who have experienced the profound healing of harmful addictions that Ayahuasca can bring would agree that the brew is a very special gift. And in this matter I speak not only from my knowledge of the research but also from personal experience.

In my case the addiction was not to heroin or cocaine but took the form of a 24-year cannabis habit that I began in 1987 at the age of 37 and that I stopped abruptly at the age of 61 after five traumatic – but ultimately positive and life-changing – Ayahuasca sessions in Brazil in October 2011.

In what I have to say next I want to make a number of things extremely clear.

(1) I am not putting down or disparaging cannabis or those who choose to use it. The “Green Bitch” in the title of this article is not cannabis itself but the abusive, self-indulgent relationship, entirely my own responsibility, that I had developed with the herb.

(2) I recognize that cannabis can be an immensely helpful plant ally and that it has uniquely beneficial medicinal applications.

(3) Quite apart from these medicinal properties, I recognize that the sensual qualities of cannabis can also be of great value – enhanced appreciation of food, music, the joys of love-making, the wonders of nature, and so on and so forth

(4) I believe absolutely and unconditionally that it is the right of adults – an inalienable and fundamental human right – to make sovereign decisions over their own consciousness, including the right to enjoy the effects of cannabis, and to benefit from its medicinal properties, should they choose to do.

(5) I remain as strongly opposed as I have ever been to that wicked and evil enterprise called “the war on drugs” which only serves to empower criminal gangs on the one hand and the worst and most controlling elements of government on the other. My views on this matter have not changed a jot since I wrote this article, “The War on Consciousness”, in 2009: http://www.grahamhancock.com/features/the-war-on-onsciousness.php. (http://www.grahamhancock.com/features/the-war-on-onsciousness.php.)

(6) Last but not least, I fully recognize that I myself benefitted greatly from some aspects of my long relationship with cannabis. It lightened me up a lot in all sorts of ways and encouraged me to explore unusual connections between things that I would not normally have connected. I was a current affairs journalist when I was 37 (that was in 1987 -- I was born in 1950) and I had written some non-fiction books on travel and current affairs issues, but I don't believe I would ever have moved on to writing about ancient mysteries (still non-fiction, although many of my critics would disagree!) if it hadn't been for the new way of thinking that cannabis drew me into.

My first investigation of an ancient mystery was “The Sign and The Seal: A Quest for the Lost Ark of the Covenant” (http://bit.ly/WdzHSr (http://bit.ly/WdzHSr)), which I began to research seriously in 1987, shortly after getting into cannabis. “The Sign and The Seal” was published in 1992. During the writing of that book it was my habit to smoke cannabis only in the evenings for an hour or two before going to bed, but things changed from 1992 onwards when I began to work on my next non-fiction historical mystery “Fingerprints of the Gods” (http://bit.ly/HLvTqa (http://bit.ly/HLvTqa)). This was when I began to smoke cannabis all day long and to experiment with writing while I was stoned. I liked the result and it soon became my practice to light up my first joint (or pipe if it was hash) the moment I sat down at my desk in the morning and then just to carry on smoking all day long until I went to bed – often in the small hours of the morning. This remained my habit thereafter – smoking continuously from morning to night, whether writing or not, and gradually seeking out stronger and stronger strains of the herb.

In 2006 or 2007 I switched from combustion products to a Volcano vaporiser and at the same time began to buy from a grower who has amazing green fingers and produces incredibly powerful varieties of bud, most usually a variety called "Cheese" – I guess because of the smell – but way stronger than anybody else's product of that name that I have sampled.

Cannabis had always exaggerated paranoid tendencies that I probably have already, but these began to come more and more to the fore from 2007 onwards with very negative effects on my behaviour. The worst was that with absolutely no real-world justification at all I began to become increasingly jealous and suspicious of my beloved partner Santha, who is the most honest and true person I could ever hope to know. We would have increasingly frequent shouting matches, always initiated by me, as I accused her of all sorts of things that she had not done and would never do. And while part of me knew I was behaving in a more and more crazy way I couldn't stop the behaviour or the feelings that were causing it. We still had happy times but the jealousy and suspicion kept tightening their grip on me and I can honestly say that I made Santha's life a misery between 2007 and 2011. It is a miracle and a tribute to her goodness of heart, care and love for me that she didn't simply walk out and leave me, but instead patiently and tolerantly persisted with me and tried to get me to see sense.

So what was it those five sessions of Ayahuasca showed me in October 2011 that led me abruptly, overnight, to end my cannabis habit? After all I had already been smoking cannabis for 16 years when I first began to drink Ayahuasca in 2003, initially as part of the research for my last non-fiction book “Supernatural” (http://bit.ly/IID9NF (http://bit.ly/IID9NF)) but later as a form of regular spiritual work. I drank Ayahuasca at least three times a year every year after that so what changed, what was so different, about those sessions in 2011?

When I look back on the whole process now, I can see that right from the very first session Ayahuasca was giving me messages about the need to moderate my cannabis habit, and showing me how my obsessional relationship with the herb was feeding and empowering negative aspects of my character. What’s more I received those messages loud and clear! But by then I was already so involved with cannabis, so convinced that I could not live my life without its help, and so sure that all my creativity would dry up and wither if I did not continue to smoke it, that I simply ignored and blanked out what Ayahuasca was trying to tell me. Perhaps if I hadn’t done that and had listened carefully instead, I have could have got my relationship with cannabis into some sort of constructive balance and stayed within the boundaries of responsible use rather than self-indulgent abuse, and perhaps then I would never have needed to reject the herb completely as Ayahuasca finally compelled me to do in 2011.

The process began on 30 September 2011 just before Santha and I flew down to Brazil. We were in the United States, at a location I won’t disclose, where I smoked a pipe of pure DMT.

I had smoked DMT before. My first two experiences, in England in 2004, were terrifying (for those who are interested I describe them in my book “Supernatural” [http://bit.ly/IID9NF]). Then in 2009 I had three pipes in one night in the same US location I found myself in in 2011 and had amazing healing experiences. Rotating lights moving all over my body, a sense that I was being scanned and that something was being fixed, some (slightly scary) computer-like circuitry that seemed to be sentient, an encounter with a sorcerer/magician figure who opened a rip in the earth for me and showed me an ancient buried city, etc, etc. It was all great fun and rather exciting. Same thing happened in 2010 – two pipes that time, separated by about an hour – and more beautiful, healing experiences.

So when I found myself back at the same location in the US in 2011 I felt relaxed and welcomed what I expected would be another pleasant healing excursion to the DMT realms. I certainly had no expectation that anything particularly disturbing or terrifying would happen to me.

Turned out I was wrong.

As soon as I took my first long draw I had the unsettling feeling that something intelligent and not necessarily friendly had leapt into my head from the spherical glass pipe. I held in the smoke as long as I could, then took another long draw. By now there was a crackling buzzing sound in my ears and I felt utterly overwhelmed and had to lie back at once (I always lie back; no way can I stay sitting up!). Immediately things were very different (though with some similarities) from all my previous smoked DMT experiences. The first thing I saw was something like a mandala with an ivory background and intricate brick-red geometric lines –like tracks – inside it. Between the lines, or tracks, imposed on the ivory background, were a large number of clock faces with weird hands. I've seen something like this before, not under smoked DMT, but under a very strong dose of Ayahuasca. It terrified me then, don't know why, and it proceeded to terrify me again. Then I realised that the mandala (only an approximation; there was something very like computer circuitry about it as well, or even like one of those toy race-car tracks where little electric cars whizz round and round) was sentient and focussed on me. I got a hint of eyes or feelers. There was something very menacing about the whole scene, and I began to feel uncomfortable and restless in my body and had enough of my everyday consciousness left at that point to wish profoundly that I hadn't smoked the pipe, and felt myself struggling – uselessly of course – against the effect. Then I heard an ominous voice, filled with a sort of malicious glee, that said very clearly "YOU'RE OURS NOW". And I thought, s***, yes, I am yours now, not much I can do about it, but it's only for about ten more minutes and then I'm out of here.

Since it was pointless to struggle I resigned myself to the situation and thought, OK then, get on with it, and immediately the mandala/intelligence and lots of its little helpers (who I felt but cannot describe) were all over me. I had the sense that my body was a huge, fat, bloated cocoon and that these beings were tearing it apart, tearing off lumps of matter and throwing them aside, getting access to the real, hidden me. I was aware that this was a place of absolute truth, like the Hall of Maat in the ancient Egyptian tradition, and that everything about me was known here, every thought, every action, good and bad, throughout my whole life – and the sense that the real hidden me within the cocoon was utterly transparent to these beings and that they were finding me wanting. About as far from being "justified in the judgement" – as the Egyptian texts put it – as it is possible to be, and that therefore I might face annihilation here. And I heard something like a trumpet blast and a loud voice that announced, as though this were a proclamation at court: "NOW THE GREAT UNFOLDING WILL BEGIN". Or possibly: "NOW THE GREAT TRANSFORMATION WILL BEGIN."

That was the point where I lost consciousness of the material realm completely, and indeed of everything else. Feeling utterly helpless, utterly in the power of whatever process I was going through and of the intelligence that was running it, I fell into a darkness that seemed to last forever. I have no conscious recollection of what happened to me in there, only the conviction that it was something massive. When I began to come out of it there were some moments – though this felt much longer than moments – when I was deeply confused and disoriented and had absolutely no idea where I was or why I was there. I could see the room around me but didn't recognise it, didn't even know it was a room at first, or even what a room is, and it kept melting back into that other terrifying reality out of which I was emerging. This has never happened to me with DMT before – I’ve always known, even in the depths of the experience, that I was having that experience because I had smoked a pipe of DMT and my body was in a specific place, which I did not forget, at a specific time. This was completely different and very, very scary.

Gradually my eyes began to focus, I remembered I had smoked DMT, and I looked around and saw Santha sitting on the edge of the bed, very calm, and incredibly strong. I was immersed in a wild melting storm of colours and the only clear sure thing in the whole place for me was Santha with her amazing strength and beauty, and lines of light emerging from her body and rising up out of her and surrounding her. I remember falling to my knees on the floor in front of her and telling her "I found you again" or something such (the sense was that I had known her in a past life and had found her again in this one) and also telling her that she is a goddess. I felt shaken, but basically happy to be back on planet normal and was able to witness the sessions of several other participants without actually falling apart or melting down.

Over the next two days as we left the US and made the journey to Brazil I thought quite a lot about what had happened to me and began to feel very apprehensive. If I had been "theirs" for 10 minutes and it had been so overwhelming, what was it going to be like for me being "theirs" for four hours at a time in the upcoming Ayahuasca sessions (since DMT is, of course, the primary active ingredient of Ayahuasca)??

Accordingly on the night of the first session in Brazil (Monday 3 Oct) I chickened out and had a (for me) small cup of just 80 mililitres. Nothing much happened that night. Just restlessness and annoyance at myself for not taking a bigger dose.

So on the night of the second session – Wednesday 5 Oct – I increased the dose to 140 mililitres. The first two hours passed uneventfully and I was thinking, with some relief, that nothing was going to happen when I became aware of a great serpent looking at me. Just the eye filled with wisdom and compassion. I got the message – I can work with you but you have to surrender to me. So I did surrender and in fact said out loud "I surrender". Immediately she was inside me – a huge, very warm, almost hot presence inside my chest. I was immobilised, literally pressed down onto the mattress and felt a tremendous vibrating sensation inside my chest and along my arms, and I thought – Wow! This is weird. But I could no longer resist or do anything about it, and the presence (whom I construe as Mother Ayahuasca) worked her way down into my abdomen and then down to my groin, and then back up again all the way up my trunk, up inside my chest, into my neck and finally into my head where she spent a very long time. I felt I was in the hands of a great power that was doing stuff with me whether I liked it or not. I have always trusted Mother Aya so I didn't feel fear and stayed calm while this was being done to me.

Then suddenly the presence left, and I could move again, and I thought – what an amazing blessing Mother Aya has just given me, to work with me for so long, and I felt sure that I had been healed. But just when I was feeling that, I was suddenly back into the same DMT space again that I had got lost in in the US and the feeling of calm and healing gave way to terror. I was aware once again of an entity (one this time; not many) all over my body, dancing around me, filled with malice, and I spent the next half hour or so in utter terror, and also feeling in some way betrayed by Mother Aya – that she had left me in the hands of this, that she had let me be "theirs" again.

The third session I took a low dose and pretty much escaped under the radar.

The fourth session I increased the dose, and Santha also took a larger dose, and we went through an extraordinary series of traumas together. Santha had the sense of some terrible dark being pulling out her heart and saying to her "I'm going to take you to teach Graham a lesson". She communicated this to me – and I at this point had the DMT trickster all over me again – and I totally freaked out. I had a massive realisation of all the pain I had caused Santha in recent years, and how this was a black mark on my soul and how I had absolutely got to do something about it and stop living selfishly for me and start being a nurturing, loving, giving and above all trusting presence in her life – otherwise I would be doomed, and I would doom her too. I was filled with grief and terror that she would die right there on the mattress beside me. Both of us were sobbing and crying. Santha grabbed hold of me and said "don't let them take me" and our shaman came over to help and began singing just an amazingly poignant and beautiful song which in due course helped to ground both of us.

The next morning in the sharing (a common feature of Ayahuasca sessions worldwide) I expressed my intent to change my behaviour and be a better partner to Santha in the future, and I said I was determined to change my relationship with cannabis. I didn't think it was realistic, after 24 years, to give it up completely but I resolved to go back to my pre-1992 pattern of only smoking at night and never again all day as well.

On the fifth session, after the traumas of the fourth, I took a very small cup of Ayahuasca – less than 50 militres; still I didn't quite get under the radar. I was approached by entities offering me food and drink but I remembered the rule expressed in many ancient cultures that one should never eat food in the Underworld (witness, for example, the story of Demeter and Persephone) so I refused and opened my eyes to stop the vision.

At the final sharing I once more expressed my intent to rid my life of all jealousy and suspicion towards my wonderful Santha, and to get my relationship with cannabis under tight control, smoking only at night, not all day.

We flew home on 14 October arriving 15 October. Very tiring and uncomfortable journey with no legroom and the fasten-seat-belts sign on almost all night. I naturally wanted to comfort myself with a little cannabis when we got back so I fired up my vaporiser and filled a nice fat bag. But as soon as I started to smoke it I began to feel really awful – as though my head were filling up with a poisonous fog. Immediate massive paranoia set in and I felt I was on the edge of going completely insane. I persevered and took a few more puffs but the feeling of madness just got worse and worse. Panic and total self-revulsion seized me. Something I have never felt before with the herb. The upshot was that I squeezed out the rest of the vapor in the bag to get rid of it without smoking it and put the vaporiser away. As I walked upstairs from my office, filled with paranoia, convinced I was going crazy, and disgusted at myself, I suddenly realised that my stated intention in Brazil "to change my relationship with cannabis and use less of it" just wasn't enough. It wasn't good enough just to use it less. It hit me with the force of a revelation. I could never smoke cannabis again or I would be doomed. I had become a complete slave to my abusive, seductive relationship with the herb, it had exacerbated the worst aspects of my personality, and my only hope was to give it up completely. Sure, I reasoned, it might be difficult for me to write without it (since for so long it had been inextricably interlinked with my writing life) but I was just going to have to deal with that.

So I have not smoked any more, well over a year has passed, and I remain resolutely determined never to smoke again. I feel free now. Liberated. As though a whole new chapter of my life has opened up in front of me. I find myself enjoying little things I didn't enjoy before, appreciating every moment that I am not stoned and that my head is clear. It feels GREAT to have a clear head! My concerns about the effect on my writing have also turned out to be completely groundless. I had feared I would loose my inspiration without the herb to inspire me but quite the opposite has turned out to be the case. I am buzzing with new ideas and creativity. Also I’m MUCH more efficient – writing between three and five times as many words a day as I did before.

Last but not least my crazy jealousy and suspicion of Santha have evaporated like a bad dream. I simply don't have those feelings any more, or the toxic behaviour that used to go with them. We're having lots of fun together and have rediscovered the positive and beautiful basis for our love.

As to my soul, I think I’ve been given another chance – a chance not to be found wanting in the judgement when death finally comes. I am grabbing that chance with both hands.

Graham Hancock, January 2013

The experiences described in this article were also the subject of a talk I gave at a recent TEDx conference in London. When the video of that 18-minute talk is up on the web I will post the link here.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Saturday 19 January 2013, 06:05:13 PM

Yeah, how much did you put in that bifta?

Just what I would normally whack in to a spliff for you.
but it was some pretty decent gear
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Bish on Saturday 19 January 2013, 06:08:39 PM
He's at my uni  :laugh: Didn't realise that had gone viral!

Really? :lol:

Was this related to his course? :laugh:

Don't think so, his Facebook is hilarious though, 90% of the content is based around him being off his tits
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 January 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote text is tiny...link to the real article?

Reading that :yao:

It's actually just a post on his FB page. 

https://www.facebook.com/GrahamHancockDotCom/posts/564442543584242 (https://www.facebook.com/GrahamHancockDotCom/posts/564442543584242)

Aye, taken me some time to get through it.  One for later...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Sunday 20 January 2013, 07:27:49 AM
This thread just makes you want to get bombed. In Australia now, wouldn't have a clue where to look for the stuff, and it would probably cost a fortune. Cost $500 for 30 E's at the last festival we were at. :lol: Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 20 January 2013, 10:30:36 AM
Was in Camden yesterday and was told that they have a special license to sell drugs and are the only place in the country to have it while they were trying to sell me some biscuits for £20 :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 20 January 2013, 10:35:42 AM
I think they were possibly telling the truth, for what it's worth. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 20 January 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Made him questioning my lass if she was a cop (to which she replied "don't know" btw) a little suspicious then, maybe he just takes an active interest in peoples careers   :laugh:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Tuesday 22 January 2013, 07:04:32 PM
I've always wondered whats the difference between weed and hash?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 22 January 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Hash is a resin, it's used by rolling all the sticky pollen together off the actual plants.  There's many different ways to make the resin, when I grew, I tried making some and it was pretty sweet but I wasted a s*** load of plant doing it.  When I say a s*** load, I mean literally over a hundred quids worth of potential skunk.

http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/difference-between-pot-and-hash (http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/difference-between-pot-and-hash)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 02:09:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Gd4D8td.jpg)

 :aww:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 02:21:17 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 07:48:50 PM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21167709 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21167709)

A lot of gear that
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 January 2013, 07:50:39 PM
What a waste.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 26 January 2013, 07:22:37 PM
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-future-of-drugs
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Saturday 26 January 2013, 07:27:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Gd4D8td.jpg)

 :aww:

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Saturday 26 January 2013, 07:34:48 PM
Anyone used Silk Road?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 26 January 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Nut, will look into it though as it looks interesting...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 05:26:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/3shL389L2EY
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 05:45:35 PM
Progress is like a bitch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21254907
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 05:46:23 PM
I could do with a big fat bifta now! 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:03:08 PM
Tramadol is a nasty, nasty drug. Been off it for two days, after an op, and I've been, and still am, sketchy as f***. Never known withdrawal like it. Stick to codeine, kids.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:10:13 PM
I could do with a big fat bifta now! 

that makes 2 of us!!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:26:54 PM
Soon for me :megusta:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:29:12 PM
Tramadol is a nasty, nasty drug. Been off it for two days, after an op, and I've been, and still am, sketchy as f***. Never known withdrawal like it. Stick to codeine, kids.

Loved it. :lol:

Should be starting it again on Friday actually.  Although I'll need to be careful with it this time, no time to f*** about.  I found codeine withdrawal quite bad, to be honest with you.  I had been on it for nearly a year.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:34:38 PM
Tramadol is a nasty, nasty drug. Been off it for two days, after an op, and I've been, and still am, sketchy as f***. Never known withdrawal like it. Stick to codeine, kids.

Loved it. :lol:

Should be starting it again on Friday actually.  Although I'll need to be careful with it this time, no time to f*** about.  I found codeine withdrawal quite bad, to be honest with you.  I had been on it for nearly a year.

What did you love about it? What was your dosage? Just felt dirty as f*** to me, like. Read up on it a bit, seems as if it's a more synthetic version of codeine phosphate.

I take codeine for problems with my guts, but only ever a couple times a year. Means I don't get dependent or build up a tolerance. Codeine buzz is lovely. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:39:14 PM
Codeine's great, aye, but doesn't last long at all.  Lucky if I'm high for more than 30 minutes. 

Tramadol gave me a s*** load of energy, felt like I was on E'.  Remember being in work once, being so hyper that I had a word with myself in the bathroom mirror about calming down.  Work couldn't say s***, every c*** knew I was buzzing.  Used to have to take about 300mg over the course of a day when my knee was really bad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:49:12 PM
:lol: I don't look at it recreationally, like. It's just a nice bonus when I feel shitty enough to have to take it. Very mellow indeed.

I was taking 100mg of Tramadol every four hours and I was climbing the f***ing walls. My lass was sick of me chatting absolute s****. Felt like some really cheap coke, or nasty speed. Needed it for the pain, but as soon as it eased I ditched them. Past two days have been horrific, but no way am I touching any more. Apparently bodybuilders buy them for a fiver a pill, so that seems a good option with more than 60 odd left. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:54:04 PM
:lol:

Aye, some people are well into them.  I would never pay, I just like the plus sides when my knee is f***ed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:54:51 PM
I take 100mg every four hours and have been for the last 18 months or so.

I'm going to be a nightmare if they fix my back. :lol:

Although as I've been on that high of a dosage for so long it doesn't really touch the sides anymore.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:55:34 PM
f***ing s***, 18 months? :lol:

Enjoy your withdrawals when you get them. :laugh:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:56:50 PM
18 months?! Mate, honestly, just end it all now. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 06:59:07 PM
Bunch of dafties ye lot
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 07:48:32 PM
The names for green are getting ridiculous now, I'm sure its just idiot dealers who don't know their strains and make s*** up. Just picked up a quarter of "Silverback" ffs, the hell is that? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 09:48:20 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: chicken little on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 09:53:55 PM
The names for green are getting ridiculous now, I'm sure its just idiot dealers who don't know their strains and make s*** up. Just picked up a quarter of "Silverback" ffs, the hell is that? :lol:

i've bought two lately on account of the names, 'green crack' (smashed my brain out) and 'laughing train' (did not make me feel like laughing one bit).
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 09:54:45 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess

What's your technique? What papers do you use?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:05:31 PM
Mine always end up like sheeps tampons...afro and his
his bro are perfect at building joints
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:19:05 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess

What's your technique? What papers do you use?

nothing special. long silver rizla, roach from travelcard on the right, roll it tight but not too tight, needs to breathe, lick the some of the part of the skin you're meant to, but lick mostly the outside (only lick outside for a ciggy). yourself?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:20:08 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess

With ciggies, I leave tobacco everywhere. With weed, I very carefully roll in an old plastic lunchbox (fittingly branded "Spacemaker") cos I'm gonna smoke all the scraps in it at some point.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:30:51 PM
How are people in terms of neatness when rolling? I make a right mess

What's your technique? What papers do you use?

nothing special. long silver rizla, roach from travelcard on the right, roll it tight but not too tight, needs to breathe, lick the some of the part of the skin you're meant to, but lick mostly the outside (only lick outside for a ciggy). yourself?
I use 3 normal sized skins (red Zig zags my preferred ones) stick two together by licking the end of the gum on one. Then lick the gum on the third. Fold in half, place in between the other two then remove so they then stick together.

Really can't stand kingsize skins.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:32:29 PM
That's the way my mates do it, Tooj.  Not rolled with paper in years though, love getting cigar skins and doing blunts.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:34:56 PM
There you go just done one. You can see in the middle what I mean by how it's now stuck together.

So even though I use three skins only two are in the finished item. So it burns better.

(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5668/n5btvzs.jpg) (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/n5btvzs.jpg/)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:35:31 PM
I use a rolling tray when necessary, great invention. Not a fan of DVD cases
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:36:12 PM
That's the way my mates do it, Tooj.  Not rolled with paper in years though, love getting cigar skins and doing blunts.
Going to give ye old blunts a shot over the weekend. Haven't had one for about 5 years so I expect not to function until next Wednesday.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:36:15 PM
I always end up leaving bits of baccy at the end and after a few it tallies up
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 January 2013, 10:41:20 PM
I use a rolling tray when necessary, great invention. Not a fan of DVD cases

Don't start me on DVD cases. :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Thursday 31 January 2013, 12:11:27 AM
One of my mates perfected the art of back-skinning with the silver skins, really are the nicest joints I've smoked. Pretty much no paper.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Thursday 31 January 2013, 07:41:47 AM
I always use them, hate joining small ones
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:02:08 AM
can back roll a perfect cone, can roll a normal bifta, can skin a blunt, can stick 2 or 3 little papers together and i think i did 3 big papers once as a challenge round gimps house.

but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:43:20 AM
Speaking of tramadol, I really don't like that. A girl gave me a some when I had a bad shoulder. So i was just sitting in the house having a few beers one night, playing on the computer, with an empty stomach. Took these and sometime later saw a massive spider on the wall. Freaked the f*** out and panned with with a pringles can; except it disappeared (figured it fell on the carpet)

Queue half an hour later and I see another one, me thinking it was the same one again smashed it and found a leg afterwards. Still no body.

Then what the f*** would you know, 2 of the b******s appeared on each wall. So I thought f*** this s***, ran downstairs and slept on the couch under loads of blankets in an igloo. Woke up to some odd questions the morning after, but did find 1 spider corpse. Freaky s***.

I didn't think they would make you trip?  ???
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:44:42 AM
You shouldn't drink on opiates or take opiates after drinking.  Can't blame the drugs all the time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:45:26 AM
You shouldn't drink on opiates or take opiates after drinking.  Can't blame the drugs all the time.

Yeah, there's a lesson :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 31 January 2013, 08:45:37 AM
can back roll a perfect cone, can roll a normal bifta, can skin a blunt, can stick 2 or 3 little papers together and i think i did 3 big papers once as a challenge round gimps house.

but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it


Down with tobacco. :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 31 January 2013, 10:34:42 AM
can back roll a perfect cone, can roll a normal bifta, can skin a blunt, can stick 2 or 3 little papers together and i think i did 3 big papers once as a challenge round gimps house.

but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it


Hes my biffta butler  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 31 January 2013, 10:35:25 AM
can back roll a perfect cone, can roll a normal bifta, can skin a blunt, can stick 2 or 3 little papers together and i think i did 3 big papers once as a challenge round gimps house.

but since I packed in the tabs i only smoke pipes now, roll spliffs for gimp and thats about it


Down with tobacco. :thup:


He also took on the challenge on one new year of using those brandy flavoured cigar leaves or summik.  Impressive.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:20:08 PM
One of my mates perfected the art of back-skinning with the silver skins, really are the nicest joints I've smoked. Pretty much no paper.

Hehe. I can do that. Only ever bother if I'm trying to show off, though. Can't be bothered waiting for it to dry.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:23:54 PM
What is back skinning? Honestly, never heard of it. I'm well versed in 'Ls', tulips and all that, but that's new to me.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:31:20 PM
You have the paper reversed (sticky strip at the front on the outside), so the sticky strip is what you tuck in as you roll. Then you lick the paper thoroughly from the outside, and when it's dry, you only have one layer of paper around the joint, much like a cigarette. If you want to be really clever, you can then light the large bit of paper hanging off at the roach end, let the flame run up to the business end and start smoking.

You have to be able to roll very well for it to work.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:33:37 PM
I must admit, I do miss a good f***ing cone.  Back in the early days, they were the s***.  Remember about 20 of us, no exaggeration, just passing them about my living room, trying not to knock over the 10 buckets and bongs along the way.  However, I do also remember the smell of my f***ing carpet after said buckets and bongs got knocked over in all their glory.  Had to pay 150 quid to have my carpet shampooed, twice, in one sitting.  The true casualty of drugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Oakie Doke on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:34:19 PM
bloody hippies.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 06:44:05 PM
What is back skinning? Honestly, never heard of it. I'm well versed in 'Ls', tulips and all that, but that's new to me.

A picture says a thousand words:

(http://momama.net/images/backroll.jpg)

Just wish there were more than tobacco in it :(
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:03:00 PM
Aahhhh right, aye, I've seen people doing that. King size silvers all the way for me, like. Absolute piece of p*ss to roll. Used to love making massive L cones at Uni, twisting it and singing round the edges to remove the top. Looked absolutely mint.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:16:28 PM
:)

We used to give the end a good licking, then fold it down like the end of a cigar. Not so easy to get the bugger lit, mind you.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:28:20 PM
Going to have to cut out all the drugs for about a month or so as I'm doing a medical trial. going to be so difficult when im around people who use them regularly, in particular green, which is smoked nigh on every day in my house.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:29:49 PM
Zaius was it you who did the medical trial a while back, or at least planned on it?

How did it go if it was? Worth it etc :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:35:09 PM
Aye did one to fund my holiday to Aiya Napa :lol:

Easiest £900 I've ever made. 4 Night stay at some ward in London, it was for some kind of hay fever drug. Took the pill, got my blood tested a few times a day, piece of p*ss. Always a risk of the unknown but an alright way to make a bit of cash if you pick and choose the right trial like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:39:54 PM
Love a backroll, although liquorice skins used in the manner of Mr Tooj's description is my favorite roll. :thup:

Rolled some big 'uns at Dino's once, kicked some arse on FIFA too, as I remember.  :smug:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:42:03 PM
Aye did one to fund my holiday to Aiya Napa :lol:

Easiest £900 I've ever made. 4 Night stay at some ward in London, it was for some kind of hay fever drug. Took the pill, got my blood tested a few times a day, piece of p*ss. Always a risk of the unknown but an alright way to make a bit of cash if you pick and choose the right trial like.

:lol:

Wow, I've never actually known anyone to do this.  Amazing. :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:50:07 PM
Aye did one to fund my holiday to Aiya Napa :lol:

Easiest £900 I've ever made. 4 Night stay at some ward in London, it was for some kind of hay fever drug. Took the pill, got my blood tested a few times a day, piece of p*ss. Always a risk of the unknown but an alright way to make a bit of cash if you pick and choose the right trial like.
:thup: class :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 1 February 2013, 07:59:58 PM
Love a backroll, although liquorice skins used in the manner of Mr Tooj's description is my favorite roll. :thup:

Rolled some big 'uns at Dino's once, kicked some arse on FIFA too, as I remember.  :smug:

Gangster.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 1 February 2013, 10:35:43 PM
I don't smoke weed but my rollies are liquorice skins, menthol filters.  They're brilliant.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 1 February 2013, 10:59:22 PM
Us it generally frowned upon to drive after a little bifta? Like not a full on Doob, just a nice little relaxer.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 1 February 2013, 11:06:25 PM
I think it is, but it's easily down to the person.  When I was at college in 07, I was frequently getting stoned with my mate in his car, as was he.  Would take pipes whilst driving.   I guess, though, in general it's just not advisable.

Think your scenario would be alright. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Friday 1 February 2013, 11:13:13 PM
Us it generally frowned upon to drive after a little bifta? Like not a full on Doob, just a nice little relaxer.

Will probably feel a little silly when you kill a young family due to impaired reaction times.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 1 February 2013, 11:18:53 PM
Us it generally frowned upon to drive after a little bifta? Like not a full on Doob, just a nice little relaxer.

Will probably feel a little silly when you kill a young family due to impaired reaction times.

Yeah, you see thats not going to happen though. Definitely not any more so than having a pint if lager or something anyway. Not saying it's big or clever and I haven't done it in years, but I used to like having one then going fir a drive late at night. tunes on, heaters on.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 2 February 2013, 10:56:18 AM
Us it generally frowned upon to drive after a little bifta? Like not a full on Doob, just a nice little relaxer.

Will probably feel a little silly when you kill a young family due to impaired reaction times.

Should have put "bus full of school children" for added effect. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 2 February 2013, 01:40:54 PM
I nearly did, thought that would be too obvious though :troll:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 3 February 2013, 02:58:47 PM
Has anyone seen 'The House I Live In'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_I_Live_In_%282012_film%29

Well worth seeing. :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 5 February 2013, 04:45:51 PM
Will get onto that. :thup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2395HLF4Yw

Terribly long, but if you're into this sort of thing...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 6 February 2013, 10:59:39 AM
Has anyone seen 'The House I Live In'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_I_Live_In_%282012_film%29

Well worth seeing. :thup:

Watched this last night Wuliie, bloody hell. I guess you always knew in the back of your mind this is roughly what is going on but this really hammers it home.  :dave:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 7 February 2013, 05:15:48 PM
I watched The House I Live In yesterday and it's really hard hitting. Thanks for the recommendation Wullie. :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 February 2013, 09:44:23 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/17yearold-girl-left-brain-damaged-after-smoking-synthetic-marijuana-8481733.html

Brutal, absolutely brutal.

However, yet another reason drugs, particularly marijuana, should be legalised and regulated. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Thursday 7 February 2013, 11:22:59 PM
Another example of ridiculous laws causing more trouble than they're supposed to prevent.

Politicians are scumbags.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Monday 11 February 2013, 07:08:13 AM
I had some MDMA on Saturday night, according to the guy who sold it anyway. It was the best stuff I've ever had. I've had MDMA at home before but this stuff just blew me away and it was in the tiniest capsule I've ever seen. I had it right at the end of the party though and started peaking when I was in a taxi on my way to another party. :lol: The taxi man had a right chuckle at me.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Monday 11 February 2013, 08:28:45 AM
I had some MDMA on Saturday night, according to the guy who sold it anyway. It was the best stuff I've ever had. I've had MDMA at home before but this stuff just blew me away and it was in the tiniest capsule I've ever seen. I had it right at the end of the party though and started peaking when I was in a taxi on my way to another party. :lol: The taxi man had a right chuckle at me.

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 11 February 2013, 09:43:35 AM
I had some MDMA on Saturday night, according to the guy who sold it anyway. It was the best stuff I've ever had. I've had MDMA at home before but this stuff just blew me away and it was in the tiniest capsule I've ever seen. I had it right at the end of the party though and started peaking when I was in a taxi on my way to another party. :lol: The taxi man had a right chuckle at me.

MDMA is clean n sexy.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:30:44 AM
I'm so f***ed right now :lol:  :smitten: :love: :buck2:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:31:40 AM
Good bump :lol: I have a small amount of resen in front of me, at least it's something.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:36:51 AM
Hurt myself at the weekend and the hospital put me on diazepam, codeine and dicolfenac. Then had a snus and some 'amnesia' to smoke and that's me in bed :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:06:30 PM
Whats everyone's stoned food of choice?

I get massive cravings for endless bags of Onion ring crisps. Recently I cant get enough of plain greek yoghurt though. Excess Pizza is always classic too. Love eating when high.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:07:17 PM
Chocolate. Any chocolate. So, so much chocolate.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:27:25 PM
Those newish Oreo Cadbury's bars don't half do the trick when I'm on a munchie.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:35:30 PM
BOURBONS.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:40:26 PM
Sainsbury's Tast the Difference Milk Chocolate with Pistachios is an absolute dream, like. Inhaled a bar of that last night. Nutella on anything or, preferably, out of the jar, is another winner.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:47:59 PM
Hurt myself at the weekend and the hospital put me on diazepam, codeine and dicolfenac. Then had a snus and some 'amnesia' to smoke and that's me in bed :lol:

Diclofenac. :lol: 

That'll not do much for you mate, just another NSAID like profen.  Reminds me of a time when my mate came back from wherever the f***, Italy I think, going, "been on the codeine and Tylenol" all week, feel like s*** on FB.  Well, burst his bubble when I informed him he'd basically been taking paracetamol with his already laden in paracetamol codeine tablets.  Silly man.  Not that you're doing the same, obviously!

Nice cocktail otherwise though, chief!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 14 February 2013, 01:49:36 PM
Any form of biscuit is my downfall like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 14 February 2013, 03:23:21 PM
Any form of biscuit is my downfall like.

Disco biscuits?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Any form of biscuit is my downfall like.

Truth...and crazy sour skittles.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:33:14 PM
Ah, Tangfastics! Eaten until you've removed at least the top three layers of skin from the inside of your mouth.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:39:45 PM
Cereal and OJ
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:48:24 PM
Twix Straws with a sweet cuppa are fantastic. Though sometimes I get so baked I can't even lift my arms to eat, nevermind open a chocolate wrapper.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 04:58:26 PM
What are prices like in the UK for an eighth or a quarter?





 :whistle:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 14 February 2013, 05:05:32 PM
What are prices like in the UK for an eighth or a quarter?





 :whistle:

1/8th is £20 but unless you've got a good dealer its not often that its actually an 1/8th.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 14 February 2013, 05:17:00 PM
I guess with exchange rates that works out to about the same over here. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who deals, so he packs everything pretty tight and it's only $35/40. If I'm here in Chicago I'll be looking at 50/60 for an 1/8 though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 14 February 2013, 05:18:53 PM
Aye, definitely less than an 8th.

I remember the good old days of those big bags being packed full of green. Now I barely get half a small bag. Might report the thieving gypos.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 14 February 2013, 11:18:03 PM
See this hemp hype, is it really as potentially useful as made out by pro-weeders?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:36:07 AM
What does an MDMA capsule cost back in the UK? Had such a good time on it last week that I want some more this weekend but they're so expensive here it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:37:21 AM
No idea what a capsule costs, I just get it in grams.  Which range from 25-60 depending on quality of stuff/dealer.  Capsules man, someone's out to make a bit of money.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:46:00 AM
No idea what a capsule costs, I just get it in grams.  Which range from 25-60 depending on quality of stuff/dealer.  Capsules man, someone's out to make a bit of money.

It was sickening learning the prices at the beginning, couldn't get a pill of E for any less than $25. Everything's just inflated with the wages here I guess.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:50:51 AM
Holy s***, about 15 quid? :o

Time to come home. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 15 February 2013, 08:02:02 AM
Holy s***, about 15 quid? :o

Time to come home. 

Aye. :lol: I wasn't massively into much back home so I didn't really realise how cheap it was until I came here. In Perth sure it's $250 for a gram of coke. I simply couldn't pay that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:32:28 PM
I spend 30 and get a really good amount of Thai weed. You can get skunk for 20 but after 6 spliffs or so that's gone

As for munchies, generally get pizza delivered for dinner. Other snacks include various chocolate, sweets like haribo or wine gums, mars ice creams are just perfect, twisters also go down well.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:33:27 PM
I spend 30 and get a really good amount of Thai weed. You can get skunk for 20 but after 6 spliffs or so that's gone

As for munchies, generally get pizza delivered for dinner. Other snacks include various chocolate, sweets like haribo or wine gums, mars ice creams are just perfect, twisters also go down well.

We'd be good stoner pals in another universe. O0
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 15 February 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Holy s***, about 15 quid? :o

Time to come home. 

Aye. :lol: I wasn't massively into much back home so I didn't really realise how cheap it was until I came here. In Perth sure it's $250 for a gram of coke. I simply couldn't pay that.

I'll keep that price in mind when I'm in Perth in December. :lol:

Though I'm generally scared about how much I'll spend in the 10 days I'm there.

:scared:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Friday 15 February 2013, 08:15:57 PM
I spend 30 and get a really good amount of Thai weed. You can get skunk for 20 but after 6 spliffs or so that's gone

As for munchies, generally get pizza delivered for dinner. Other snacks include various chocolate, sweets like haribo or wine gums, mars ice creams are just perfect, twisters also go down well.

We'd be good stoner pals in another universe. O0

Perhaps one day...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 15 February 2013, 08:48:00 PM
Got myself a lovely 1940's lighter from a vintage shop in Heaton the other day. Proper nice little thing, :aww:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 16 February 2013, 01:15:06 AM
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/34110/title/Is-Cannabis-Really-That-Bad-/

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201210/psilocybin-and-brain-function
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Tuesday 19 February 2013, 08:31:53 PM
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-future-of-drugs

Love vice magazine. Crushing honesty though!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 08:59:00 PM
Forgot, actually came in this thread yesterday to state that had some weed with friends on the weekend and once again it was crap. Would love a rateyourdealer.com website!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 09:39:48 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 09:42:08 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Wednesday 20 February 2013, 11:01:10 PM
:lol: fo! Someone tell me where to get some good weed in this town ! :'( Also I note that the weed smoking rasta smilie has gone.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 21 February 2013, 12:20:42 AM
Forgot, actually came in this thread yesterday to state that had some weed with friends on the weekend and once again it was crap. Would love a rateyourdealer.com website!

Silk Road has a feedback system. I've not used it though. (yet)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 22 February 2013, 04:51:13 PM
What age do people stop taking drugs then? Imagine i'll stop with the class A's or 'party' drugs the more I settle down like. Couldnt ever see me stopping smoking green though. Is it an age thing? at 40 year old do you ever still fancy a few lines and reet session?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:11:45 PM
What age do people stop taking drugs then? Imagine i'll stop with the class A's or 'party' drugs the more I settle down like. Couldnt ever see me stopping smoking green though. Is it an age thing? at 40 year old do you ever still fancy a few lines and reet session?

at 35 I can quite happily say yes! I'll have a few lines some pills and some smoke, quite happily once in a while for a good sesh
cant be doing the all weekened thing though and when i had some pills at xmas it took me a while to fully recover, but then I was also p*ssed as fook
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:17:51 PM
Never really taken many drugs, feel like I'm missing out.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:21:20 PM
What age do people stop taking drugs then? Imagine i'll stop with the class A's or 'party' drugs the more I settle down like. Couldnt ever see me stopping smoking green though. Is it an age thing? at 40 year old do you ever still fancy a few lines and reet session?

I still smoke a good amount at 28. Aint done owt else for a while but put it in front of me and I'll gnaw you're hand off.

Don't let the b******s grind you down, Zaius.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 22 February 2013, 05:29:52 PM
Same as afro, just now and then...its good to have a mind meldge now and again.  See the world in a different light.


im 37 btw


Dont forget people still drink and smoke into their 70s and 80s.

Not that i'd be pilled off my face on E in a care home like.


Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Friday 22 February 2013, 07:05:57 PM
Same as afro, just now and then...its good to have a mind meldge now and again.  See the world in a different light.


im 37 btw


Dont forget people still drink and smoke into their 70s and 80s.

Not that i'd be pilled off my face on E in a care home like.




nah they'd be giving you far more legal s*** in the care home :-)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 22 February 2013, 07:25:00 PM
f***ing hell man, I love drugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 22 February 2013, 09:22:51 PM
Aye, you stop when you stop loving, not when you hit an age.

When will you stop drinking?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 22 February 2013, 09:30:59 PM
Hey, would  you do drugs if I told you I came home with three capsules of DMT this evening? :shifty:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 22 February 2013, 09:35:05 PM
c***.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Saturday 23 February 2013, 11:19:33 AM
:lol: Jesus man, me and my girlfriend are maybe coming up to scotland soon, I might send her off to do some shopping and drop by yours for a cheeky entheogenic experience.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 23 February 2013, 01:56:54 PM
I had to get them cause the other way nearly killed me, apparently...  Being on SSRIs, then taking the brew which contains MOAIs is allegedly dangerous and would explain my lack of a proper hit when I did it last. :undecided:

AGAIN, another reason for appropriate legislation on drugs, honest drug education and an awareness of the dangers.  Is any of the above true, Jim, if you're knowledgeable about that sort of stuff?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Saturday 23 February 2013, 05:24:56 PM
Probably going to try silk road. Heard about it years ago but forgot about it. Anyone had any experiences with it ?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hudson on Saturday 23 February 2013, 10:08:26 PM
Hey, would  you do drugs if I told you I came home with three capsules of DMT this evening? :shifty:

Where did you get that from, Graham hanckock recons that stuff is the best out of mind and body experiance. Apparently it has a very high sucess rate and getting addicts off there addicition.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Saturday 23 February 2013, 10:14:43 PM
Sometimes I properly fancy having the odd pill or something, but not only am I not really inclined these days I wouldn't even know who to contact. :lol: Just be nice to re-live some of the good old days.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 23 February 2013, 10:53:26 PM
Hey, would  you do drugs if I told you I came home with three capsules of DMT this evening? :shifty:

Where did you get that from, Graham hanckock recons that stuff is the best out of mind and body experiance. Apparently it has a very high sucess rate and getting addicts off there addicition.

Morrisons.  Fiver a capsule. 

I got it off a dealer in Glasgow, you madsack. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ED209 on Sunday 24 February 2013, 12:36:38 PM
drugs is for mugs
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 24 February 2013, 12:39:36 PM
drugs is for mugs

:thup:

Playing arcade games in he 90s told me winners don't use drugs and tbf I never saw a single crackhead beating Bison so they were probably right.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 24 February 2013, 06:02:04 PM
drugs is for mugs

:thup:

Playing arcade games in he 90s told me winners don't use drugs and tbf I never saw a single crackhead beating Bison so they were probably right.

I dont know like, im pretty handy on games when wrecked...tho not watching afrop on COD MW2 running round at high speed stabbing people, gave me motion sickness and had to go to bed.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 24 February 2013, 06:44:10 PM
Are you still the best dancer in Wallsend?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Sunday 24 February 2013, 09:05:32 PM
Are you still the best dancer in Wallsend?

Im pretty hot tbh but i was never the best dancer on the estate.  That went to a guy who looks like an ex chelsea player, cant remember his name.  Played for liverpool as well.

Sit hot he was, Sunday nights in the local club.  Could narf shift.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 6 March 2013, 11:02:39 PM
http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/the-dark-side-of-ayahuasca-20130215

Interesting read.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:05:21 AM
Anybody ever got someone to send them drugs in the post? Is it super risky?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:09:23 AM
It's risky.  You're taking an awful lot of trust in the sender.  Do not advise...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:12:34 AM
Sent weed to France a couple of times. Wrapped the baggies in cling film and then put it in a bottle of shampoo. Boxed it and sent it. Got there on both occasions.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:16:26 AM
It's risky.  You're taking an awful lot of trust in the sender.  Do not advise...

Well the senders not what im scared of. Known him my whole life/best mate. I'm more worried of it getting intercepted or something and then they've got my address and s*** or something like that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:23:02 AM
Precisely.  Do you trust him enough not to f*** it up. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:34:03 AM
Sad state of affairs if he doesn't trust his best mate, like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:37:12 AM
Precisely.  Do you trust him enough not to f*** it up. :lol:

 :lol: Well yeah, i do. Just wanted to know whether they check post at all or not with scanners or sniffer dogs or something.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 7 March 2013, 12:37:16 AM
My mate used to buy drugs over the f***ing internet from some kid in America :lol:

Anyway just get him to send it, it's not like the Royal Mail have sniffer dogs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: chicken little on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:14:44 PM
i've posted from amsterdam to mates in the uk no problem; made up name on the front, f*** all name on the back and there's not really much they can do beyond intercept it. mate of mine tried it, got home in time to find a letter from the royal mail basically saying don't be playing silly buggers. he did bung it in a tobacco pouch in an unpadded envelope like. best i've found is just to tape it to the inside of a dvd case. 

carrying through customs isn't as scary/stupid as it sounds, though i am prone to some idiocy. carrying into croatia (f*** that) for one, and also coming back from a heavy weekend in manchester and realising, halfway over the north sea, i've got half-a-dozen pills in my pocket i had completely forgot about buying.

but aye. smuggling is fun, easy, and a good way to make an absolutely minimal amount of money.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:17:38 PM
If it's enough to warrant an arrest, we're talking 1000s of quids worth, then what they do is they have an officer go undercover as the Postie.  Make sure the person signs for it then they arrest you.  This is what happened to a dolt that ordered 2000 valiums from India on Topix.  Beyond that, Royal Mail won't disclose how they track and/or intercept drugs. 

More established places use vacuum bags.  DVD cases.  f***ing DVD cases. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: chicken little on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:28:10 PM
aye, well i'm not doing bulk or anything like that, most i've ever done is about a half (and that was one of the occasions i walked through with it in my bag). dvd cases are right, just a little bag taped down flat inside a dvd case. cover the bag all over with duct tape and not much stink escapes.

might as well stick a few of these in here seeing as i'll never get another opportunity  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:  :bong:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Thursday 7 March 2013, 05:51:42 PM
He's sending MDMA anyway, not weed. So smell won't be a problemooo.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Thursday 7 March 2013, 06:36:10 PM
i could really murder some good weed, and a good lads game sesh!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Thursday 7 March 2013, 07:49:44 PM
I used to have this girl send me coke in empty cassette cases to my mam and dads house when I was younger. Regularly. Utterly ridiculous.

I once took a load of stuff to Disney Land Paris as well, eurostar - no security check at all.

Wouldn't try that s*** nowadays like.

I'm going to a pals summer house in the south of France this summer and would love to take a bit of weed, but it's obviously not happening.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Thursday 7 March 2013, 08:13:05 PM
I know of much success sending green in cd/dvd cases just normal post. If I was sending a larger amount I would probably look at local couriers and send it inside something like a cheap guitar amp.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Thursday 7 March 2013, 08:43:01 PM
Ahhh lovely green  :smitten:

This seems to be like the only thing that stops my mind and just lets me totally relax and  :aww: :aww: . Is that bad? ???
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 7 March 2013, 08:47:02 PM
afro order dome stuff
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:21:21 PM
afro order dome stuff

for when and what?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:39:28 PM
MDMA is beautiful, f***ing beautiful.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:43:42 PM
Could just have some now actually.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:44:17 PM
Would f***ing love some now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TC_16 on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:44:38 PM
I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BillClinton on Thursday 7 March 2013, 10:46:40 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:12:46 AM
Is valium that readily available on "the streets"?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:29:45 AM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Friday 8 March 2013, 10:10:00 AM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".

Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 10:16:16 AM
Aye, I'd stay away personally. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Rocker on Friday 8 March 2013, 10:40:35 AM
I would f***ing love drugs, if I wasn't scared shitless of them.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 11:34:45 AM
Good video but we already know most of it anyway....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9PgLBN1MZhM
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 11:36:09 AM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".

Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).

Would not touch a legal high, talked about this with pals before.  Weird scenario.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:09:46 PM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".

Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).

Would not touch a legal high, talked about this with pals before.  Weird scenario.

I tried that one people were calling Meow Meow a while ago when it was still legal. Hated it. It was nice at the time, but the comedown was rough and it f***ing stank.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:12:53 PM
Had some Benzo fury last night like. Was a bit like E but less intense and not as much of a comedown. First ever "legal high".

Ooft, don't like these legal highs at all. In my mind they are much more dangerous than regular drugs and that mephrodone stuff left me feeling f***ed up when I tried it(a lot more than 'normal' drugs).

Would not touch a legal high, talked about this with pals before.  Weird scenario.

I tried that one people were calling Meow Meow a while ago when it was still legal. Hated it. It was nice at the time, but the comedown was rough and it f***ing stank.


Yeah had, I think i called it Tree Sherbet.

I was waxed after a couple of small lines.  Kept me up all night/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:47:47 PM
Not really heard much about legal highs. Just curious, why are people saying they wouldn't touch them?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:51:03 PM
A couple of people died from them I think (probably no more than any other drug). Bubble was/is class though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:51:51 PM
Not really heard much about legal highs. Just curious, why are people saying they wouldn't touch them?

For me, it's to do with the fact that people don't really know much about them yet, if they're fairly newly designed drugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:54:52 PM
Because they're just variations on the established chemical compounds, put together to avoid legal restrictions, with absolutely zero consideration for how it'd effect the body.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:58:02 PM
Is that any different to any other drug though dependant on who you get it off? (although replace "legal restrictions" with "cost")
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 12:59:52 PM
Yeah, it is, I guess. But, most do have some kind of history of use.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:17:31 PM
Because they're just variations on the established chemical compounds, put together to avoid legal restrictions, with absolutely zero consideration for how it'd effect the body.

Exactly. I realise people cut normal drugs with other s**** but I'd much rather that risk than the legal highs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:26:51 PM
Because they're just variations on the established chemical compounds, put together to avoid legal restrictions, with absolutely zero consideration for how it'd effect the body.

Exactly. I realise people cut normal drugs with other s**** but I'd much rather that risk than the legal highs.

However dealers cut their drugs - they're not going to do it with dangerous chemicals or anything dodgy. At the end of the day they want your repeat business. Love the old wives tale of things being cut with rat poison and all the rest of it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:36:07 PM
I got given half a one of those blue defqons the other week like which made my nose blue so f*** knows what was in that, walking home in the morning with blue nostril. Mingin'.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:42:54 PM
Is that any different to any other drug though dependant on who you get it off? (although replace "legal restrictions" with "cost")

Well, I don't remember a bag of weed ever rotting out someone's stomach and rendering someone a vegetable.  Whereas a legal high 'substitute' for weed did.  Inochi gets it spot on.  The deaths caused by these legal highs have been far worse than anything caused by traditional drugs. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:48:24 PM
Is that any different to any other drug though dependant on who you get it off? (although replace "legal restrictions" with "cost")

Well, I don't remember a bag of weed ever rotting out someone's stomach and rendering someone a vegetable.  Whereas a legal high 'substitute' for weed did.  Inochi gets it spot on.  The deaths caused by these legal highs have been far worse than anything caused by traditional drugs. 
I'm more thinking about pills. Weed isn't a chemical drug, it's a plant so you cannot really go wrong unless you're smoking tack, which I haven't seen anyone do in like 10 year :lol:

I cannot really see the difference in risk from a pill to a 'legal high' (depending on what the legal high is obviously), both are chemically engineered to give you a buzz... I'm not massively clued up though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:51:52 PM
FWIW when I say "legal high" I'm pretty much just thinking of MKAT (even though it's not legal anymore). I don't think I've tried anything else other than salvia.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:54:15 PM
The deaths from E have largely been due to people over drinking water, flooding their system.  It's extremely rare you hear of people dying because of something that was cut into E, or coke etc.  These pills that get sold that caused deaths are largely down to chemicals that should never be thrown into the mix together.  I know where I stand with every traditional illicit drug, but these f***ers leave you in a bad place if they do f*** you.  I guess the hysteria is probably a bit overboard at times though.  But I'll never get over anyone losing their stomach over a 'legal high'. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 02:58:57 PM
The deaths from E have largely been due to people over drinking water, flooding their system.  It's extremely rare you hear of people dying because of something that was cut into E, or coke etc.  These pills that get sold that caused deaths are largely down to chemicals that should never be thrown into the mix together.  I know where I stand with every traditional illicit drug, but these f***ers leave you in a bad place if they do f*** you.  I guess the hysteria is probably a bit overboard at times though.  But I'll never get over anyone losing their stomach over a 'legal high'. 
:thup:

Yeah I know what you mean. They aren't even strictly "legal" anyway are they? And aren't exactly easier to get hold of so it is probably a bit pointless.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:00:51 PM
Is that any different to any other drug though dependant on who you get it off? (although replace "legal restrictions" with "cost")

Well, I don't remember a bag of weed ever rotting out someone's stomach and rendering someone a vegetable.  Whereas a legal high 'substitute' for weed did.  Inochi gets it spot on.  The deaths caused by these legal highs have been far worse than anything caused by traditional drugs. 
I'm more thinking about pills. Weed isn't a chemical drug, it's a plant so you cannot really go wrong unless you're smoking tack, which I haven't seen anyone do in like 10 year :lol:

I cannot really see the difference in risk from a pill to a 'legal high' (depending on what the legal high is obviously), both are chemically engineered to give you a buzz... I'm not massively clued up though.

Here, divn't be dissin' Tac man, ye little fuckin' radge packet.

Had some tac/resin not too long ago as couldn't get weed. Amazing, man. So much more mellow than weed, I could just go throughout the day constantly smoking tac. Not in a bong or owt, like.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:03:49 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:04:45 PM
f*** it have a bucket, haarrrrr
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:05:24 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:

It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:06:45 PM
From about the age of 14 -18 we smoked soapy flat out. Green was like some kind of mystical thing we only ever heard about.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:06:55 PM
:lol: Remember the tac days of old, burning through big lumps of plastic in the middle of it. :anguish:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:07:23 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:

It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.

There's a hash cafe down here (London) run by a Moroccan family. They sell a few different types of hash and resin, each one i've tried has been bloody lovely. Some you don't even need to burn to crumble it. Must go back there sometime. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:09:39 PM
Good proper resin is the s***.  I'd probably stab someone for a bit of pollen right now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:10:15 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:

It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.

There's a hash cafe down here (London) run by a Moroccan family. They sell a few different types of hash and resin, each one i've tried has been bloody lovely. Some you don't even need to burn to crumble it. Must go back there sometime. 

That sounds amazing! I've had some proper, Moroccan squidgy black before. Rolled a geet thick snake into a joint, with no idea how strong it was. Fell asleep/passed out on the bog in some random lasses apartment in Barcelona.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:11:16 PM
I've seen resin and pollen like, just not the ounces of old.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:12:36 PM
Don't think I've seen or had any since I was about 16, still see people knocking about in hot rock riddled trackies like :lol:

It's nice, man. Charvas and their buckets give it a bad name.

There's a hash cafe down here (London) run by a Moroccan family. They sell a few different types of hash and resin, each one i've tried has been bloody lovely. Some you don't even need to burn to crumble it. Must go back there sometime. 

That sounds amazing! I've had some proper, Moroccan squidgy black before. Rolled a geet thick snake into a joint, with no idea how strong it was. Fell asleep/passed out on the bog in some random lasses apartment in Barcelona.

It's great. You have to have a membership card or be a guest of somebody who does when you go in. You go through a door of what looks like an abandoned building, up the stairs and then there's somebody on the door. Stepping inside, it smells of mint tea - drapes and curtains everywhere and 2 massive rooms, one of them with 5 pool tables.

Think I've lost my membership card, though, and don't hang about with the person who first took me.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:13:14 PM
I've seen resin and pollen like, just not the ounces of old.

Bounce for an Ounce.

Fuckin' whistle crew
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:18:35 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck when I was 16:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:21:11 PM
f***ing hell. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:21:28 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw

 :anguish:

FFS Mc Fuckin Stompin, the only MC who sounds like he has another mans balls in his mouth while rapping. 

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:23:28 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck when I was 16:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw

:lol: Wasn't Barker's car by any chance was it?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Friday 8 March 2013, 03:25:32 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck when I was 16:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw

:lol: Wasn't Barker's car by any chance was it?

:lol: Nah but it doesn't surprise he liked this drivel, was a Hexham lad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 11 March 2013, 01:07:27 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/people-whose-lives-were-destroyed-by-marijuana
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Monday 11 March 2013, 03:11:11 AM
I'd love some right now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 March 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Pretty sure my life peaked sitting in the back of someones car smoking a tac hot can with this on the tapedeck when I was 16:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9Yb1cUmLw

TBF this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J_6WHvaiuw

After 5/6 pills, 3 in the morning, packed rave. Mint at the time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 12:43:43 AM
Just had a spliff and got into bed and had the deepest thoughts about doors, and a topic I have decided to bring up
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 07:50:36 PM
I'm so f***ing old. Taking pills makes me think of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gWA491H4U
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 08:01:45 PM
f***, I'm old :(
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 08:44:06 PM
Great CHOON, some other good remixs out there as well.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 09:10:31 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/people-whose-lives-were-destroyed-by-marijuana

I hope to god that article is not for real and is just a massive p*ss take
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 09:18:36 PM
The woman that is on Twitter is real, I actually stumbled upon her the day before I read/posted that link.  Absolutely moronic c***.  Can't work out if it's just a parody. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 12 March 2013, 10:54:06 PM
http://tokesignals.com/lsd-could-be-taken-off-schedule-i-before-marijuana/

:dowie:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Wednesday 13 March 2013, 07:07:16 AM
The woman that is on Twitter is real, I actually stumbled upon her the day before I read/posted that link.  Absolutely moronic c***.  Can't work out if it's just a parody. 

I thought that would have been easy for you - 100% a parody
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 13 March 2013, 07:27:28 AM
You obviously haven't learnt how gullible I am. :yao:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 19 March 2013, 10:58:33 PM
Just talking to a mate and he said some idiot he was in a car with on sunday night left a load of 100mg tramadol behind him, and my mate being the dead on lad he is swiped them and said nothing.

Never had it before but have seen Bluf and Tooj champion it on several occasions so looking forward to giving these bad boys a try.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: jotenko on Tuesday 19 March 2013, 10:59:23 PM
DRUGS ARE FROM DEVIL

GOD WILL NOT BE HAPPY

















DONT TAKE DRUGS YOU WILL DIE

I ONLY TAKE ALCOHOL HAXIXE AND COCAINE
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 March 2013, 11:00:21 PM
If you have no opioid/opiate tolerance, it'll be great fun for a while.  Never take more than 300mg, you're just f***ing about with your safety otherwise.  But as Tooj said to me the other day, it barely touches the sides with us any more.  Used it too much.  Great for pain-relief though, which is the point I guess. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 02:25:40 AM
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/03/medical_marijuana_overdose_dabbing.php

 :crazy2:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 02:35:01 AM
Damn, I've done dabs a few times. It's definitely one of the most intense highs I've ever had, we were hitting a vape and bong with this too. I was probably high for six or seven straight hours, I've never had anything like it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 01:56:39 PM
Yeah, I've done hash oils, not tried this particular concoction but it's grasping at straws to try and attribute marijuana as the cause of death.  It's an accident.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BillClinton on Wednesday 20 March 2013, 09:22:01 PM
Yeah, a friend and I were doing them one time and he freaked out and had to go to the hospital because of an accelerated heart rate and high blood pressure. Turns out his heart is just f***ed and smoking that much only intensified it. So I'm sure it's only other conditions exposed by being that high that cause it and not the weed itself. People just want to find something wrong with it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Saturday 23 March 2013, 11:02:09 AM
Had the onesie and the bong on the go last night like with a massive bag of food, chill out tunes and beautiful night sleep. Can't think of a better after work routine. Get straight up in the morning and hit the gym before work. It's nice
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 27 March 2013, 12:20:10 PM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals.  Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark.  I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery.  I've never felt so bad.  Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live. 

Never running out again.  I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 27 March 2013, 12:37:17 PM
Adderall makes you incredible at Call of Duty.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Wednesday 27 March 2013, 12:42:43 PM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals.  Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark.  I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery.  I've never felt so bad.  Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live. 

Never running out again.  I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.

Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 28 March 2013, 12:22:34 AM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals.  Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark.  I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery.  I've never felt so bad.  Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live. 

Never running out again.  I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.

Can imagine opiate withdrawal to be complete torture.

Benzo withdrawal is f***ing horrific an all.  No energy, no sleep, no appetite, a lot of puking/dry retching and general constant feelings of panic and anxiety.

You just have to gradually reduce your dosage one step at a time, it's a long and hard b****** of a process.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 28 March 2013, 12:35:33 AM
Oh yeah.  I've a bad history of forcing myself to go cold turkey because I tan my prescriptions too fast, it's unpleasant but codeine I could generally handle, Tramadol was another f***ing planet.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JB on Thursday 28 March 2013, 12:38:38 AM
Smoked some weed for the first time in many months today. :D
 :bong: :bong: :bong:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 28 March 2013, 01:18:51 AM
:thup:

I am doing some drugs right now, tonight should be good.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 28 March 2013, 08:23:34 AM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals.  Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark.  I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery.  I've never felt so bad.  Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live. 

Never running out again.  I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.

Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
I might do a live web feed for when I eventually stop taking them. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 28 March 2013, 08:45:02 AM
Just put a DVD of Trainspotting on a loop, mate. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:19:30 AM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals.  Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark.  I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery.  I've never felt so bad.  Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live. 

Never running out again.  I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.

Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
I might do a live web feed for when I eventually stop taking them. :lol:

You'll need to do something, chief.  I'd wean off them as properly as I could, it's notoriously hard to kick (I'm sure you know), but I forgot just how bad!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: jotenko on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:20:08 AM
You people are fuckin' awesome!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:26:45 AM
Not sure who it was, Inochi perhaps, but f***ing, you were damn right on the Tramadol withdrawals.  Gubbed 90 in 10 days, felt too ashamed to go to the doctor's for another prescription until at least the two week mark.  I was five days with out any in the end, and f***ing hell, what misery.  I've never felt so bad.  Felt like I'd done 10 straight days of hill-walking, got a bad hangover, dropped into a depression and given up will to live. 

Never running out again.  I'll take the lecture from the doctor any day.

Aye, that was me. Horrific couple of days, and I wasn't gubbing them quite at your rate! :lol:
I might do a live web feed for when I eventually stop taking them. :lol:

You'll need to do something, chief.  I'd wean off them as properly as I could, it's notoriously hard to kick (I'm sure you know), but I forgot just how bad!

I didn't have much experience of tramadol, so had no idea how intense the withdrawal would be after only a fortnight. Boggles my mind how long term users manage without it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:35:24 AM
When I first came off it I didn't even think about it.  Talking about 3 years ago, went back to work after the op' and was plumped onto codeine.  It's only really now I realise why I found work so f***ing stressful at the time.  It was SO f***ing bad, had to get bumped up on my anti-depressants.  Not sure my Doc' understands the concept of tapering off drugs.  She just seems to pull me off them, but I'll not have that this time. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Thursday 28 March 2013, 10:42:29 PM
booked for amsterdam the late may bank holiday weekend. cant wait. be class if we get to the final, 2 trips in 2 weeks. bigger group this time as well, was just me and 1 mate last time
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Friday 29 March 2013, 02:08:58 AM
How easy is it to get anything else apart from weed in Amsterdam?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Friday 29 March 2013, 02:14:53 AM
booked for amsterdam the late may bank holiday weekend. cant wait. be class if we get to the final, 2 trips in 2 weeks. bigger group this time as well, was just me and 1 mate last time

Cheers for the invite
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JCONA on Friday 29 March 2013, 09:56:01 AM
How easy is it to get anything else apart from weed in Amsterdam?
Used to be gangs of black lads hassling you to buy anything and everything at nights walking down the touristy (red light) streets. Last time I went there there wasn't as many though
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 29 March 2013, 09:58:26 AM
It's unbelievably easy, like. Get asked at least once down every street, I'd worry more about the people trying to sell.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Friday 29 March 2013, 10:02:05 AM
booked for amsterdam the late may bank holiday weekend. cant wait. be class if we get to the final, 2 trips in 2 weeks. bigger group this time as well, was just me and 1 mate last time

Cheers for the invite

:okay: its my uni house from our last year
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: chicken little on Friday 29 March 2013, 03:06:12 PM
It's unbelievably easy, like. Get asked at least once down every street, I'd worry more about the people trying to sell.

don't buy from these people. whatever drugs you get, if they actually are drugs, are more than likely to be s****. aside from chatting onto locals in pubs/whatever, the best bet would be to get in a cab outside the train station and just straight up ask the driver if they would be able to sort you out.

aside from weed, coke is all over the place (got some myself for the four day weekend, as it happens) and very good quality if you have a decent connection. same dudes will usually be able to get mdma and all.

other stuff, i dunno. sure it isn't that hard.

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Used to be gangs of black lads hassling you to buy anything and everything at nights walking down the touristy (red light) streets. Last time I went there there wasn't as many though

moved to the warmoesstraat last summer, and these f***ers are all over the shop. more and more crackheads and all.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 March 2013, 08:07:12 PM
I'm pretty sure I have the best dealer out there. He smokes us out anytime we go to his house to buy, packs everything extremely tight, and has no problem with fronting. Today he's going out of his way to drop off some for me and a friend because neither of us have a car to get to his place, on top of all this he's a really nice guy. The People's Drug Dealer.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:20:06 AM
Had some sniff last night, worryingly seem to be back addicted to it, I gave up all drugs, and I used to hammer them every weekend going to raves from the age of 15-23. No idea why I have restarted :anguish:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:21:42 AM
You had some last night, and you've decided 24 hours later you're addicted to it again? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:22:55 AM
Had some sniff last night, worryingly seem to be back addicted to it, I gave up all drugs, and I used to hammer them every weekend going to raves from the age of 15-23. No idea why I have restarted :anguish:

Good craic?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:25:12 AM
You had some last night, and you've decided 24 hours later you're addicted to it again? :lol:
You had some last night, and you've decided 24 hours later you're addicted to it again? :lol:

haha nah, been for the past few months, considering I hadnt had any for a good 4 years, and I mean anything. I have no idea why its suddenly reappeared. Need to pack it in, like now really
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:26:03 AM
Had some sniff last night, worryingly seem to be back addicted to it, I gave up all drugs, and I used to hammer them every weekend going to raves from the age of 15-23. No idea why I have restarted :anguish:

Good craic?

Nah it was f***ing awful as well. Really weak and basically couldn't sleep so drove home from a mates at 6.30 am. Rough as
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:27:15 AM
You had some last night, and you've decided 24 hours later you're addicted to it again? :lol:

haha nah, been for the past few months, considering I hadnt had any for a good 4 years, and I mean anything. I have no idea why its suddenly reappeared. Need to pack it in, like now really

Ah, fair enough, chief.  I get you, pack it in if it worries you.  Although, that it worries you tends to be a good thing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:31:19 AM
Yeah it does to be honest. I've always thought drugs masked anxieties well, thats why I enjoyed them, but thats not a healthy outlook. And for some reason the will power I had has vanished and I cant resist it. Thing is, I'll be in Dalston tomorrow and drinking and drinking is the facilitator. We used to call it "One Pint-ten Pills" As soon as you have a beer,thats it. you need the next level up
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:33:28 AM
Keep an eye on it man, I always find it best shifting my addictions rather than trying to end them.  It generally always lands on weed. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:40:51 AM
!00% on the money. I always have to have something, be it Coke/Pills/Base or red bull or chocolate, its bizarre I can't have like a life without a certain addiction to something
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:49:21 AM
You're making me want some :okay:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 30 March 2013, 12:54:23 AM
Hammering drugs on a weekend isn't an addiction man, an addiction is when your body is dependent on the drug.

It shouldn't be physically difficult to cut out just as alcohol isn't?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: chicken little on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:45:32 AM
maybe not an addiction as such, but there's nowt wrong with realizing something isn't too clever. i get that way with coke: not taking it all the time but thinking about it and getting a giddy-on about getting some. it's usually my sign to knock it off for a while.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:47:06 AM
:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: chicken little on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:53:32 AM
meanwhile, i've spent the best part of a decade thinking i should do something about the fact i smoke 3-5 joints a day to no avail.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: chicken little on Saturday 30 March 2013, 01:54:07 AM
(cos it's not proper drugs like)  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 30 March 2013, 02:11:26 AM
Hello again chaps, thanks in advance for ruining my bank holiday weekend.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Saturday 30 March 2013, 11:46:09 AM
meanwhile, i've spent the best part of a decade thinking i should do something about the fact i smoke 3-5 joints a day to no avail.

3 to 5 a day? :lol: What kind of work do you do? (None of my business, really.)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Sunday 31 March 2013, 12:58:20 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in?  :angel:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 31 March 2013, 01:35:48 PM
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/sea-dmt-000481-v20n3

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SEA DMT
GOD MOLECULE OR BARNACLE REPELLENT?


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Writing almost exclusively about psychoactives, it is not unusual for me to be contacted by strangers who wish to report on the effects of various drugs. Most of these reports are uninteresting, but occasionally I receive something unusual. The following letter from a pseudonymous tryptamine chemist serves as a prime example:

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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 31 March 2013, 04:58:41 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in?  :angel:

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:15:53 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in?  :angel:

:lol:

I'm serious you git. I'll be on the old soda waters when we go to watch the mackem match.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:28:14 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in?  :angel:

:lol:

I'm serious you git. I'll be on the old soda waters when we go to watch the mackem match.

:lol: Will you f***, you're worse than me.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:29:20 PM
So had 8 20mg Valiums, 11 Tramadols, a couple of pints (paid for by Tommy, no less), then I a good smoke when I got home.  Drugs are good, mmkay.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Rocker on Sunday 31 March 2013, 05:30:20 PM
So had 8 20mg Valiums, 11 Tramadols, a couple of pints (paid for by Tommy, no less), then I a good smoke when I got home.  Drugs are good, mmkay.

Jesus. How are you still typing?


I'd be ruined.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 31 March 2013, 06:41:45 PM
8 20mg Valiums? f*** me :lol: I have 5 10mg before I fly and that makes me feel  :sleepy2:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Sunday 31 March 2013, 06:43:43 PM
Bluf loves a couple of huge dids, like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Sunday 31 March 2013, 07:37:31 PM
That's a heavy day, man. Got to respect the thought process involved in accepting free alcohol after a cocktail of prescription drugs. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:14:49 PM
I did make sure I had only two!  All those drugs though gave me the balls to scale all the monuments for my photos yesterday.  It was a heavy day, aye, even heavier morning.  I think the valiums were largely pish.  Some sort of Sri Lankan efforts, barely made my made my eyes wobble, never mind knock me off my balance.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:15:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:22:03 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:29:44 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:

Do you work with writers for a soap opera?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:30:58 PM
I work with a bunch of men over the age 40...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:32:31 PM
I work with a bunch of men over the age 40...

That explains a lot tbh.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:46:40 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:

Aye, it's pathetic.  I lost a good few friends post-school years because I was a junkie.  A junkie that smoked cannabis.  Utter, utter brainwashed simpletons.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:48:24 PM
Bluf loves a couple of huge dids, like.

I don't know what this means?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BillClinton on Sunday 31 March 2013, 08:48:30 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:

Yup its very annoying. Especially with jobs where you have to take a drug test, yet people can show up Monday completely hungover, barely able to function and it's not a problem.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Sunday 31 March 2013, 09:26:45 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:
I work with 4 people who remind me of https://twitter.com/ConcernedMom420 ,except they're serious :sigh:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Sunday 31 March 2013, 09:44:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Monday 1 April 2013, 08:11:54 AM
Bluf loves a couple of huge dids, like.

I don't know what this means?

Dids is slang for pills IIRC.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Monday 1 April 2013, 12:22:55 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in?  :angel:

I'll join ya  :snod:  :sad:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 1 April 2013, 04:47:14 PM
Think i'm going to pack everything in, booze included, for April. Who's in?  :angel:

I'll join ya  :snod:  :sad:

You'll find it a very lonely exercise. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 1 April 2013, 05:17:53 PM
Bluf loves a couple of huge dids, like.

I don't know what this means?

Dids is slang for pills IIRC.

Oh, I see!  Nah, I prefer organic drugs, mushrooms, weed, ayahuasca.  Stuff we can grow, not create in a lab.  The best chemically produced drug in the last 100 years is LSD, however.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 2 April 2013, 09:55:06 PM
Hammering drugs on a weekend isn't an addiction man, an addiction is when your body is dependent on the drug.

It shouldn't be physically difficult to cut out just as alcohol isn't?

This is the issue, I have to drink to cut out anxiety, then when I drink I automatically need it. I don't even like drinking particularly, means to and ends.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 2 April 2013, 11:29:49 PM
I've given up smoking ganja on weekdays for a while, obviously not 100% strict as sometimes you come home from work and 'need' a beer or whatever, but for the most part I'm going to save it for weekends. Just feel like I'd like it to be special again, I haven't been without a smoke for two consecutive days (apart from one family holiday) for almost 5 years now :lol:

So I reckon this could help my new fitness regime a fair bit and also help me re-focus on my job. All I know is I'm not feeling as tired as I usually do at this time of night :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BillClinton on Wednesday 3 April 2013, 05:09:49 PM
http://www.endalldisease.com/spain-study-confirms-hemp-oil-cures-cancer-without-side-effects/

Can't be long now till the attitude changes, the positives are really overwhelming the negatives and people are starting to notice.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 3 April 2013, 06:17:18 PM
Anyone else f***ing hate it when you talk to a non-weed smoker about smoking weed and they act like you're a serious drug addict and try to tell you EVERYONE who smokes weed will get paranoid delusions? Everyone I work with is basically like this and the worst part is most of the people I work with are serious heavy drinkers :lol:

Aye, it's pathetic.  I lost a good few friends post-school years because I was a junkie.  A junkie that smoked cannabis.  Utter, utter brainwashed simpletons.

Aye a lot of people I know are like that too. I've never touched drugs in my life (alcohol doesn't count because as everyone knows - it's not a drug, it's a drink!) but there's loads of people willing to drop someone just cos they do drugs. So long as it doesn't endanger me in any way I couldn't give a f*** tbh. Despite my relatively anti-drug standing I dated a bird into pills, weed, coke, the lot for six months last year. Was interesting to say the least, in fairness she could see it didn't interest me and therefore never pushed me further than "want one?" ... "nar" .... "alright".

That said, I used to know people at sixth form and that who literally talked about nowt else - when they were last high, what it was, what they were doing, when they were next high and why I was boring for not being high - they're just as bad as the ones who go mental over someone smoking cannabis like. Boring t***s.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Saturday 6 April 2013, 12:26:02 PM
not drugs but we were sniffing a lot of snuff last night, first time i've had, i liked it, good buzz
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 13 April 2013, 09:50:58 AM
Well this morning I am massively regretting my self imposed abstinence from weed.

The sun is shining and I've woken up and decided to listen to Geogaddi. :( :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 13 April 2013, 10:17:51 AM
Just had 210mg of codeine, and 300mg tramadol.  Swimming in bliss just now. :aww:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 13 April 2013, 10:28:55 AM
:lol: You're a monster.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 13 April 2013, 10:39:01 AM
Just tanned a lovely pipe.  Now walking the 6 mile walk from the bird's to mine.  Drugs are great, mm'kay?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 13 April 2013, 07:09:26 PM
:lol: You're a monster.

Had another 300mg of codeine.  Feel like absolute bliss.   It's almost as if I just walk due to the wind.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Monday 29 April 2013, 12:24:53 AM
Doctor put me on 240mg of those per day and 2g of paracetamol :yao: Now I'm just sitting here stoned to f*** of some new weed and doped up on that stuff :lol: listening to Amorphis :lol: :yao:

Might walk to kfc again and get 2 family meals :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Monday 29 April 2013, 04:36:53 PM
im going to say bad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 29 April 2013, 04:46:53 PM
It's a perfectly good night idea.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 29 April 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Nah, nothing wrong with it tbh. I definitely wouldn't worry if you're not dead yet.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Monday 29 April 2013, 05:53:59 PM
I'll PM you my address if you want rid of them. You Pussy.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Monday 29 April 2013, 07:35:19 PM
Go ahead, mate. Go wild. Have a lie in if you want. I've just rang your school.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 29 April 2013, 07:50:05 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge.  We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.

BOOOOOOOM!


Talk about a hit.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Monday 29 April 2013, 07:58:34 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge.  We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.

BOOOOOOOM!


Talk about a hit.  :lol:

bag of speed wrapped up in a rizla and neck that
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Monday 29 April 2013, 08:19:37 PM
I'll be joining you there on this jounrye like.. welcome to the wreckafon :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Monday 29 April 2013, 08:21:17 PM
 :love: :aww: Smack some 80% Stroh in there too. f*** yeah. Sitting on the stairs, or (as i call it the stairway to heaven/0 and hanging out the window of hope :P

 :smitten:

 :frantic: :angel:

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 29 April 2013, 08:30:06 PM
You not got work tomorrow?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 29 April 2013, 08:37:14 PM
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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Monday 29 April 2013, 09:24:12 PM
I just made a massive chocolate cannibacake!!! Been on that, some more stroh and a few codeine. Yeeeeeeeeyyyy :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Monday 29 April 2013, 10:31:37 PM
I need some.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 29 April 2013, 11:52:04 PM
Not as far as I can tell like :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 12:32:12 AM
If you're not mashing the pills up and snorting them with the coke, then it's pointless even having them.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 03:53:15 PM
I had to teach a class today. Gonna run home and smash the remainder of this cake in like. Tonight shall be fun
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:01:34 PM
 :lol: :lol:

Reminds me of a random lad that used to pop up now and then in our social group, he was like a one man rave.  We would all be down stairs chilling out and he would still be on the decks mixing away for hours, usually the same two tracks, practicing the same mix over and over, while MCing to himself.

One man rave!

We had a session at mine years ago him and another good pal came round about 2 am in the morning, one lad played a set of hard house, then this lad went on and to this day we are convinced he played the same set, record for f***ing record.

 He also had a snake.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:16:31 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge.  We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.

BOOOOOOOM!


Talk about a hit.  :lol:

Urrgghh... the taste of speed. Horrible stuff. Used to always drop it in rizla bombs, remember a few occasions where I couldn't swallow it and it just emptied from the rizla in my mouth. Makes me feel sick just thinking of it.

Funny stuff speed. Very energetic and postive, but the over-thinking and sketchyness it can lead to when taken too often or coming down isn't always fun. Also not being able to sleep for 2 nights plus in a row when your trying is gash!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:23:55 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge.  We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.

BOOOOOOOM!


Talk about a hit.  :lol:

Urrgghh... the taste of speed. Horrible stuff. Used to always drop it in rizla bombs, remember a few occasions where I couldn't swallow it and it just emptied from the rizla in my mouth. Makes me feel sick just thinking of it.

Funny stuff speed. Very energetic and postive, but the over-thinking and sketchyness it can lead to when taken too often or coming down isn't always fun. Also not being able to sleep for 2 nights plus in a row when your trying is gash!

Nah, never liked the stuff.  It served a purpose at the time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:27:29 PM
I remember getting some pills that seemed to have literally no mdma in but loads of speed. Got no come up so necked about 4 in an hour. Never had a worse Sunday.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:31:45 PM
In our younger days, when we had little spare wedge.  We used to buy speed, this is going back to the earl/mid 90s, used to pour speed in a glass of water then microwave it.

BOOOOOOOM!


Talk about a hit.  :lol:

Urrgghh... the taste of speed. Horrible stuff. Used to always drop it in rizla bombs, remember a few occasions where I couldn't swallow it and it just emptied from the rizla in my mouth. Makes me feel sick just thinking of it.

Funny stuff speed. Very energetic and postive, but the over-thinking and sketchyness it can lead to when taken too often or coming down isn't always fun. Also not being able to sleep for 2 nights plus in a row when your trying is gash!

Nah, never liked the stuff.  It served a purpose at the time.

I spent best part of 2003 to 3005 on it, pretty much every Friday/Saturday. Even hit a low point where a few days a week I was doing it and getting up and going work still - f*** knows how I got away with it. Eventually hit a point where I just wondered why the f*** I was doing it so much so stopped. Have done it a couple times since but it's a dirty drug if done a lot and as you say, served a purpose at a time.

Does make you dance your tits off all night like mdma can be a bit mongy and at times and you want to sit down but speed was always about being on the move.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:53:35 PM
2003-3005 is a canny time to be on speed like, bet you're glad you're off it tbh.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:55:36 PM
He was so wired he traveled into the future.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 10:59:56 PM
Just realised what I've posted.

 :lol:

3005... f***ing good year that but enough was enough. Futurama was bang on with it's predictions, like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 11:04:23 PM
We've all been there mate, just have a spliff and it'll be okay.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 11:09:14 PM
2003-3005 is a canny time to be on speed like, bet you're glad you're off it tbh.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/n72oy.jpg)

"Right, I was on speed from 2003-3005, you would nee believe my adventures"
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 30 April 2013, 11:10:18 PM
:lol: :lol: Love a limmy.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Wednesday 1 May 2013, 05:30:20 PM
More than half a gram of speed always made me puke. Haven't touched the stuff in about 15 years. I wouldn't mind getting me hands on some pills, again, though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 1 May 2013, 06:13:58 PM
'would nee' :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 1 May 2013, 08:49:59 PM
Wouldnae? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 1 May 2013, 11:53:01 PM
:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: nazza06 on Thursday 2 May 2013, 12:04:06 AM
This thread (and that picture of green in particular) is a horrible read when your only dealer is about 45 miles away.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Thursday 2 May 2013, 12:22:54 AM
45 miles? Pfft. Mine has f***ed off to America. Selfish t*** :(
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:05:57 AM
'The worst case of scientific censorship since the Catholic Church banned the works of Galileo': Scientists call for drugs to be legalised to allow proper study of their properties

The outlawing of drugs such as cannabis, MDMA and LSD amounts to the “the worst case of scientific censorship since the Catholic Church banned the works of Copernicus and Galileo”, the former Government drugs advisor Professor David Nutt has claimed.

Professor Nutt, who was dismissed from the Home Office’s advisory council on drugs in 2009 after clashing with ministers, said that UN conventions on drugs in the 1960s and 1970s have delayed the development of “innovative treatments” for PTSD and depression by 30 years and also set back research into areas of neuroscience such as consciousness.

In a paper published today with two other scientists in the journal Nature Reviews Neuroscience, he said that drugs policy is being driven by “politics, not science”.

Professor Nutt left the Home Officer in 2009 after suggesting that taking MDMA ecstasy was no more dangerous than horse-riding and that alcohol and tobacco were more dangerous than many illegal drugs.

The possession of psychoactive drugs such cannabis, MDMA (ecstasy) and LSD for scientific purposes is stringently regulated in the UK and most other countries, in accordance with UN conventions that were agreed in response to the emergence of drug culture in the 1960s and 1970s.

Applying for a Government licence can be costly and time-consuming and many scientists are put off by a culture of “repression” surrounding drug science, Professor Nutt said.

“The laws scare off funders and most scientists are scared because they think if they break the law, they might get arrested,” he told The Independent. “I’m sure at some point someone’s going to arrest me. There is a sense of repression to the point that most people won’t do it.”

The paper, which is published to coincide with a conference on scientific research with psychedelics at Imperial College London, points to evidence that cannabis, MDMA and psychedelics such as LSD and psilocybin (the compound found in magic mushrooms) have unexplored medicinal benefits and argues that laws should be updated.

Small clinical studies of MDMA, which was originally used in the USA in the 1970s to improve communication in psychotherapy sessions, suggested that it could play a highly beneficial role in the treatment of PTSD patients. The paper’s authors said the drug could also help with “end of life anxiety” and couples therapy”.

Medical use of marijuana is already legal in 17 US states, and the drug has been shown to have benefits such as anxiety reduction and pain relief. However, Professor Nutt said that UK restrictions had blocked development of therapeutic applications for any of cannabis’ 16 active ingredients.

LSD, meanwhile, was widely researched in the 1950s and 1960s, with more than 1,000 papers investigating outcomes for more than 40,000 patients, with evidence suggesting that the drug might be an effective treatment for alcoholism, before bans on the drug around the world ended further research.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-worst-case-of-scientific-censorship-since-the-catholic-church-banned-the-works-of-galileo-scientists-call-for-drugs-to-be-legalised-to-allow-proper-study-of-their-properties-8654514.html
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:08:04 AM
Aye but has anyone got any for the weekend?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:16:30 AM
Plenty, marra.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:23:27 AM
Howay marra, spread the joy marra
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:38:54 AM
I was at Alnwick Gardens the other day and took in the tour of the poison garden. Was ridiculous hearing our guide go on about saying "cannabis is known for causing mental health issues and bringing on paranoia in a lot of people. Last year I was talking to one of our visitors who works in a mental health hospital and they had one patient who had one joint and it was mixed with crystal meth and he has been there ever since." :anguish:

Was like Chris Morris was talking.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:40:13 AM
(http://karmajello.com/postcont/2012/04/miss-high-times-bakes-weed-brownies.jpg)

Miss High Times 2010 favourited one of my tweets the other day. Best moment of my life.  :aww:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:58:15 AM
Get out. Quitter.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 12:39:23 PM
I'm back on it now daft kernt.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 12:55:43 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 12:57:04 PM
Total quit fag.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Weezertron on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 09:07:06 PM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.

It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Where is Bluf these days?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:09:12 PM
Tied up somewhere in some Glaswegan woman's basement.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:13:05 PM
Well, as long as he's happy.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:18:07 PM
Can buy weed legally now in Barcelona and there doesn't seem to be any fuss or problems with the system, tried three different types when I was over last month. The quality of that stuff and the stuff you get illegally over here is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:20:04 PM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.

It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 10:23:07 PM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.

It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.

Only been off it 12 days what you expect.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:01:17 PM
really annoying how places all over the world seem to be happy to relax laws on weed and in some cases legalise it for recreational usage, but over here its still vilified and demonised by the dogmatic brainwashing media puppets of the government.

its also really annoying that i cant seem to get any weed in newcastle.
walk past the bong shop nearly everyday, and it make me want to buy a bong and some weed and get high as fook
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11:33:50 PM
Tied up somewhere in some Glaswegan woman's basement.

:lol: trippin' his tits off.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 13 June 2013, 12:15:49 AM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.

It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Weezertron on Thursday 13 June 2013, 12:29:59 AM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.

It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:

And he packed it in at the grand old age of 13  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:21:42 PM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.

It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:

And he packed it in at the grand old age of 13  :lol:
:dontknow: What age do most people start? 9-12 or so you would think. I always played football (or basketball if I was lucky) with the older boys and they would smoke afterwards. Those were great times in my life, man. :lol: I only stopped because both basketball and a job I had required drug urine tests.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:23:07 PM
I smoked weed for the first time in june. I've now ran out of the stuff and I can't really say I'm desperate to get anymore.

It was alright, but I was really expecting something better.
Honestly, it improves over time. I was 10 or so when I started and it did nothing for me at all. By the time I stopped using, it was something I really enjoyed partaking in.
You were 10 when you started smoking weed? :lol:

And he packed it in at the grand old age of 13  :lol:
:dontknow: What age do most people start? 9-12 or so you would think. I always played football (or basketball if I was lucky) with the older boys and they would smoke afterwards. Those were great times in my life, man. :lol: I only stopped because both basketball and a job I had required drug urine tests.

:lol: No you wouldn't, you zany b******.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:25:38 PM
:lol: I started at 18. Geriatric compared to Baba.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wormy on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:27:04 PM
That's mental. :lol: I think most people I know would be shocked to discover you started smoking cigarettes at 10, let alone weed. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:28:59 PM
One can only assume they're a bit more lax in Nigeria. 9 year olds smoking weed here would cause mass outrage.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:31:04 PM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:32:26 PM
If we were chicken most of us would taste horrible.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:33:33 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:35:22 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis.  :sweetjesus:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:36:06 PM
One can only assume they're a bit more lax in Nigeria. 9 year olds smoking weed here would cause mass outrage.
We didn't go around telling everyone :lol: It was Africa for goodness sake, our parents would have literally beaten the hell out of us. Half of the people in this thread are talking about ketamine and E pill. I'm amazed this shocks people.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:37:24 PM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us

That explains a lot.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:40:07 PM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us

That explains a lot.

 :lol: 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:41:12 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis.  :sweetjesus:

I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:43:05 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis.  :sweetjesus:

I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.

Not sure, the quality is far superior in amsterdam. Though I packed in weed when i was 16 so we are talking 11 years ago I have no idea the various strengths now. The legalisation of Ecstasy would be far greater jump in quality imo and safety
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:48:31 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis.  :sweetjesus:

I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.

Surely it would be better. No reliance on some shady dealer, proper weights, a lot cheaper and gurantee'd quality because it's all above board and your hand isnt forced so to speak. The stuff I had in Amsterdam was noticeably better than anything here, and I'm not so much of a connoisseur.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:50:42 PM
Wonder how long until it's legalised here. 60 years maybe? Imagine the quality on a regular basis.  :sweetjesus:

I don't like having to 'illegally' do something so harmless, but personally don't think it would be better if legalised. Can of worms, I know.

Surely it would be better. No reliance on some shady dealer, proper weights, a lot cheaper and gurantee'd quality because it's all above board and your hand isnt forced so to speak. The stuff I had in Amsterdam was noticeably better than anything here, and I'm not so much of a connoisseur.

Never done it in Amsterdam so I couldn't use that as a yardstick, personally - but if it was globally legalised I don't think the quality would be better on the whole. It would be mass-produced by 'the corporation' out to exploit the new wave of annoying first-time stoners.

The shady dealer thing is easy as f***, in my experience. Couldn't be f***ed queueing to buy weed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 13 June 2013, 04:52:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl-rcmNLv8k


Spoiler
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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 13 June 2013, 05:52:31 PM
I think I was about 14 the first time I dabbled.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 June 2013, 05:59:27 PM
:morph:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shak on Thursday 13 June 2013, 06:00:43 PM
Had the head absolutely blown clean off me a couple of times so far in Colombia. I'm not used to weed this strong anymore, my tolerance is gone. :lol:

My local friend took me for a midnight drive through some shifty areas while completely baked though, was class. People standing on corners openly selling drugs, brilliant.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: McCormick on Thursday 13 June 2013, 06:27:35 PM
I genuinely can't sleep without having a j about half an hour before bed, been like this for about 6 years. Anyone else experience this?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 14 June 2013, 03:40:40 AM
I smoked weed about twice a month before I went to Amsterdam. The first night I was there I had the head blown clean off me by some of their stuff. It was magic though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 14 June 2013, 10:59:41 AM
I genuinely can't sleep without having a j about half an hour before bed, been like this for about 6 years. Anyone else experience this?

To a degree.  I'm usually always on something that helps me to sleep.  Insomnia is not to be f***ed about with and I've not got the stamina for all-nighters.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Stu on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:01:18 AM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us

That explains a lot.

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:05:29 AM
:lol: I started at 18. Geriatric compared to Baba.

You never smoked at school?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:06:29 AM
'would nee' :lol:

Oi, keep me out of this.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 14 June 2013, 11:40:47 AM
My whole social group prob starte smoking around 10/11 by 14 some of us taking pills etc. That was the norm for us

That explains a lot.

:lol:

AWWWWWWWW, you found another of my posts to comment on. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Stu on Friday 14 June 2013, 12:15:51 PM
Pretty sure it was SDBS I quoted. Keep up.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 14 June 2013, 12:22:34 PM
:anguish:

A Stu vs SanToon black hole of craic.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 14 June 2013, 12:23:45 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 14 June 2013, 03:06:34 PM
:anguish:

A Stu vs SanToon black hole of craic.

I'm rising above it. I'm better than that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 14 June 2013, 03:08:19 PM
:lol: I started at 18. Geriatric compared to Baba.

You never smoked at school?

Had the odd Bucket, but here and there. Maybe 3/4 in total. I was a charva sympathiser, so stopped short of full blown.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 16 June 2013, 09:40:25 AM
I think i'm blind
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 16 June 2013, 09:42:33 AM
Too much American cheese?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 16 June 2013, 10:14:07 AM
64 lines of it
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 28 June 2013, 04:20:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJvHrx1X-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 28 June 2013, 08:33:00 AM
Had s*** loads of coke last weekend...didnt reslly enjoy it.  think im done.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:06:02 PM
Anyone own or tried a vapouriser? Worth the outlay?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:12:07 PM
Tried, loved, couldn't afford.  Wouldn't opt for it full time myself, as I do love a good pipe.  Worth if you have no such cravings, or really are concerned about the effect it has on your lungs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: icemanblue on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:25:15 PM
Prefer a joint to a pipe, to be honest. Even less likely to be having a good effect. Thinking long term a bit.

The bigger ones look very odd, and they're silly expensive for smoking kit. I've tried one of the pen ones before, which was pretty nice, but even that cost over a hundred quid.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:29:59 PM
It's extortionate stuff.  Thing that worried me the most when I thought about it, was a) what if it's s****, and b) I'll end up breaking it. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:33:40 PM
Can get a used volcano for around £300, they're meant to be the boy.

I wouldn't recommend getting anything cheap, you'll just waste the precious stuff in a poor quality vape. They're good, but nothing beats rolling up and passing one about, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:36:14 PM
Pipes all the way.  Tobacco is the great ruiner of weed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:37:19 PM
Bluf, you don't know s***.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:38:28 PM
You, wee man, you keep puffing your tobacco.  I'll enjoy the sweet pure taste of my green.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:38:53 PM
I don't do drugs, mate.


PRISMMMMMM
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 05:40:09 PM
:bong:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Friday 28 June 2013, 06:59:31 PM
Moving away from weed... I did E pretty much every weekend from '95 until '03, finally giving up in '06. Partly because most of my mates had moved on but mostly due to the fact i was having to take a handful of the f***ers to get any sort of effect and it was ruining me for a full week afterwards.

Anyhoo, i wouldn't mind a wee dabble again. Just for old times sake. Buuuuut does anyone know if you can still buy proper pills? Ie similar to what they used to be like in terms of mgs mdma. I know that there's that much synthetic stuff coming from the far east now i'm dubious i'd be buying what i was actually looking for.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 28 June 2013, 07:15:44 PM
Best just getting MDMA these days mon.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Friday 28 June 2013, 07:22:30 PM
I'll maybe do a write up. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Friday 28 June 2013, 08:26:25 PM
I've not them for a while but we were getting old school supergurners a couple of year back for £5-10 a pill and they melted your face off but I think it's down to supply and demand with them.

Half a g of MDMA will see you right though, comedowns aren't as bad as cowies but still fairly abysmal. 2 days after was always my low point.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 10 July 2013, 08:23:21 PM
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/when-nasas-former-supercomputer-tripped-on-dmt

It's time! :frantic:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 25 July 2013, 08:07:08 PM
Buying a bag of weed tomorrow. Will be my first hit in quite a while. Can't stand tobacco anymore so it looks like an apple pipe for me. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 25 July 2013, 08:21:24 PM
:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 26 July 2013, 10:04:37 AM
Buying a bag of weed tomorrow. Will be my first hit in quite a while. Can't stand tobacco anymore so it looks like an apple pipe for me. :lol:

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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Friday 26 July 2013, 02:26:33 PM
Was thinking about smoking through an apple, but I imagine the smoke can become absorbed into the apple and so on. Still an efficient smoking apparatus?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 July 2013, 02:29:17 PM
Works a beauty. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:12:53 PM
Much nicer taste than one of those shitty pipes you can get at tobacconists as well. I smoked about a gram and then ate the apple. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:14:00 PM
 :kurt:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:17:07 PM
You manky scrote.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 26 July 2013, 09:18:12 PM
You manky scrote.  :lol:

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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Saturday 27 July 2013, 01:53:43 PM
eating the apple gets you high as f*** as well cause the apple is porous so it absorbs smoke and THC
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Saturday 27 July 2013, 01:57:52 PM
Choooo Choooo magic mushroom train will be calling soon
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Saturday 27 July 2013, 02:25:39 PM
Choooo Choooo magic mushroom train will be calling soon

:lol: f*** that train, man.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Sunday 28 July 2013, 02:04:28 PM
Heading off to Amsterdam later in the year, gonna stay in the flying pig hostel. Just going alone like, but I've read some really good things. Football, drugs and whores - how can any young person say no to that? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Sunday 28 July 2013, 02:14:05 PM
Would love a wee smoke of some quality hash right now, not the UK s**** but the suff you get from the coffee shops. Leeeeeegalize it ya c***s.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SGSC on Sunday 28 July 2013, 03:00:21 PM
:lol: What an absolutely insane night.

Ketamine is some crazy s***. Told myself i'd never do it again but after being 10 beers deep all sense went out the window.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Sunday 28 July 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Would love a wee smoke of some quality hash right now, not the UK s**** but the suff you get from the coffee shops. Leeeeeegalize it ya c***s.

I hear ya. In all honesty I just can't be arsed with drink much anymore, it's expensive and can turn people into pure dickheads. Give me some brownies, stoner movies and some good mates anyday over a s*** session in The Gate on a Saturday night
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Sunday 28 July 2013, 04:32:11 PM

I hear ya. In all honesty I just can't be arsed with drink much anymore, it's expensive and can turn people into pure dickheads. Give me some brownies, stoner movies and some good mates anyday over a s*** session in The Gate on a Saturday night

this!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Sunday 28 July 2013, 04:45:00 PM
TBH if I some weed now just want go someplace on my own or feel nervous
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: angrypirate71 on Sunday 28 July 2013, 11:12:33 PM
TBH if I some weed now just want go someplace on my own or feel nervous
Characteristics of a sativa dominant strain tbh, try and avoid "haze" types if you've got a bit of choice.
Indica leaning weed may suit you better. Sativa strains tend to get you high - more uppy and hyper, whereas Indicas provide more of a heavy stoned feeling. Of course, all of this info is useless if your supplier doesn't know what he's got either, which is common.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Sunday 28 July 2013, 11:13:30 PM
Choooo Choooo magic mushroom train will be calling soon
:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: alexthegreat on Monday 5 August 2013, 12:08:45 AM
Cant see if this has been posted elsewhere but Uruguay have approved a bill to legalize cannabis:

Uruguay draft marijuana law:

    State would control the production, distribution, commerce and consumption of marijuana
    Consumers have to be over 18 and registered
    Marijuana to be sold at licensed pharmacies
    Sales are limited to 40g (1.4oz) per month
    Registered users can grow up to six plants at home

The Uruguayan government argues that by bringing the sale of cannabis under state control, it will remove profits from drug dealers and divert users from harder drugs.

The bill was approved by 50 of the 96 MPs present in the House of Representatives following a fierce 13-hour debate in the capital, Montevideo.

The state would assume "the control and regulation of the importation, exportation, plantation, cultivation, the harvest, the production, the acquisition, the storage, the commercialisation and the distribution of cannabis and its by-products".

Buyers would have to be registered on a database and be over the age of 18. They would be able to buy up to 40g (1.4oz) per month in specially licensed pharmacies or grow up to six plants at home.


President Jose Mujica says he has never tried marijuana but believes it should be legalised.

They clearly have a far better leader than any of the complete w*****s  politics in this country produces:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20243493
Quote
Jose Mujica: The world's 'poorest' president
It's a common grumble that politicians' lifestyles are far removed from those of their electorate. Not so in Uruguay. Meet the president - who lives on a ramshackle farm and gives away most of his pay.

Laundry is strung outside the house. The water comes from a well in a yard, overgrown with weeds. Only two police officers and Manuela, a three-legged dog, keep watch outside.

This is the residence of the president of Uruguay, Jose Mujica, whose lifestyle clearly differs sharply from that of most other world leaders.

President Mujica has shunned the luxurious house that the Uruguayan state provides for its leaders and opted to stay at his wife's farmhouse, off a dirt road outside the capital, Montevideo.

The president and his wife work the land themselves, growing flowers.

This austere lifestyle - and the fact that Mujica donates about 90% of his monthly salary, equivalent to $12,000 (£7,500), to charity - has led him to be labelled the poorest president in the world.

"I may appear to be an eccentric old man... But this is a free choice."

"I've lived like this most of my life," he says, sitting on an old chair in his garden, using a cushion favoured by Manuela the dog.

"I can live well with what I have."

His charitable donations - which benefit poor people and small entrepreneurs - mean his salary is roughly in line with the average Uruguayan income of $775 (£485) a month.
President Mujica's VW Beetle All the president's wealth - a 1987 VW Beetle

In 2010, his annual personal wealth declaration - mandatory for officials in Uruguay - was $1,800 (£1,100), the value of his 1987 Volkswagen Beetle
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Thursday 16 January 2014, 07:46:14 PM
Why has this not been bumped in 6 months? Disgraceful  :huff:

I'm got serious couch lock now like. Nothing like a nice pipe to see off a long day. Buckled like  :aww: :laugh:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 10:24:04 AM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:00:33 PM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.

Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?

If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:06:02 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:10:44 PM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.

Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?

If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?

Haha. She didn't know I was a naughty f***er before we got together, no. It's not something I broadcast. Especially not on a first or second date. 

Not saying I'll never get tremendous'd again, that would be highly unlikely, but I appreciate the motivation to chill out for now.

I'm quite proud of myself to tell the truth. Longest without drugs or cigarettes in years.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:13:35 PM
Worra mug.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:16:31 PM
Worra mug.

Fair comment m8.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:25:20 PM
:lol: Nah I think it's good.  We're nearly 30 FFS, we need to cut down.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Rocker on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:28:28 PM
Worra mug.

Fair comment m8.

Looks like Dean Ambrose in your sig. The guy on the left. Ringer.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 02:28:35 PM
Aye. I'm still 29 when we're at Glastonbury.

I'll probably abstain until then, and then have some sort of heart attack in the dance tent off half a pill.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: triggs on Friday 17 January 2014, 03:32:22 PM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.

Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?

If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugs
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Friday 17 January 2014, 04:50:11 PM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.

Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?

If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugs

I just hate people who think nothing about going out getting p*ssed but then grief drugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 17 January 2014, 05:02:54 PM
She's not anti drugs by any stretch, she's anti cocaine. Which I can understand.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Steggy on Friday 17 January 2014, 05:07:39 PM
am oot raving tonight. get in
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 18 January 2014, 08:07:36 AM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.

Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?

If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugs

He seems to take a hell of a lot of drugs, you can see why he might be a bit defensive about it :D
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MKSC on Saturday 18 January 2014, 11:58:38 AM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.

Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?

If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugs

He seems to take a hell of a lot of drugs, you can see why he might be a bit defensive about it :D

If you're anti-drugs on here you're likely to get abuse off the 'mad crazy raving' people. I stay out of the debate now as my 'drugs are bad' stance is not welcome.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: KDT on Saturday 18 January 2014, 12:09:07 PM
Haven't had any drugs in ages now.

My new lass detests coke, due to past experiences - and went mental when I had a bit (one line, off a friend) on a night out before Christmas. Other than a minor slip up on Christmas eve I've not touched anything. Not even been smoking!

Went to the docs a couple of days ago and was told I have high blood pressure for my age. Need to go back in a month and if it's the same, need to lose some weight and lead a healthier life style. I have actually been doing this for the last 6 weeks or so anyway, so hopefully I won't keel over any time soon.

Anyway, drugs are for mugs.

Really makes me sad this.
You should tell her to F off.
Did she know you take drugs before and stay with you?

If you want to take it take it really has nothing to do with her.
Would she stop drinking if you said you did not like it?
:lol: You'd think it was a bad thing to stop taking drugs

He seems to take a hell of a lot of drugs, you can see why he might be a bit defensive about it :D

If you're anti-drugs on here you're likely to get abuse off the 'mad crazy raving' people. I stay out of the debate now as my 'drugs are bad' stance is not welcome.

Shut your noise.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Saturday 18 January 2014, 12:31:00 PM
Dont don't even take that many drugs...just have a imagination or autistic
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 09:57:26 PM
Couldn't help but notice the Pet Hates thread getting overrun by drugs talk, ideal chance to bring up this thread.

All for weed really, haven't really noticed much of a weed culture going on. Don't have it extremely regularly, have it socially. Nice treat too. (boring milner! hurhurhur). It's nice either way. Causes some harm like any drug. Harms are vastly overplayed by the mass media. And so on with various Bill Hicks anecdotes I could go on about.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:08:18 PM

Couldn't help but notice the Pet Hates thread getting overrun by drugs talk, ideal chance to bring up this thread.

All for weed really, haven't really noticed much of a weed culture going on. Don't have it extremely regularly, have it socially. Nice treat too. (boring milner! hurhurhur). It's nice either way. Causes some harm like any drug. Harms are vastly overplayed by the mass media. And so on with various Bill Hicks anecdotes I could go on about.

Neil confirmed Wacky Backy addict. Next step is the horse my friend? Do you want to saddle up? Or keep on walking?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:09:11 PM
I love them. If I had a lot of money, it's plausible that I would have a lot of problems. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:12:11 PM
I'm all seriousness I loved em from the age of 14 when I had my first pill. to about 23. Always preferred uppers like pills/sniff and psychedelics to weed like. Got massively bored of them after. IMO there isn't one single experience on the planet that rivals the peak of a really good pill. Ridiculous scenes.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:25:48 PM
yeah, lsd is one thing I wish I'd done more of. Just don't have 10 hours to kill anymore. :(
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:29:09 PM

yeah, lsd is one thing I wish I'd done more of. Just don't have 10 hours to kill anymore. :(

Yeah it's a commitment tbh. Good laugh though. Had some ridiculous times on it
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:29:45 PM
I sometimes wonder if I'm missing out when it comes to certain things, but then I always find I'm more than happy just getting p*ssed or just getting high. Depending on the company, I can thoroughly enjoy doing both. Particularly the latter; I find it quite versatile, can enjoy it in just about every environment including (especially?) on my own.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:29:57 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:32:17 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

Stay as you are, drugs r 4 mugs m8.
Title: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:34:32 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:35:52 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.

Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:36:22 PM

Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.

Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:

:lol: scares me that your mind went straight there.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:39:29 PM

Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.

Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:

:lol: scares me that your mind went straight there.

:lol: Naturally came to me since I was reading some article about Christ Bearer (rapper) cutting his dick off and jumping out the third floor or something the other day while on PCP.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: MW on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:40:37 PM
Until about 6 weeks ago I smoked weed at least a few times a week, every day pretty much. Then I started a new role at work and realised I couldn't do both. Had some gear on Friday night and then bought some to get some sleep, had some Saturday then gave it to a mate. Feel so much better without it felt so s*** at the weekend having smoked.

Alcohol is far worse than drugs personally. Get myself into way too many problems drinking , that never really happens with night out drugs (which are taken every couple months tops)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:42:59 PM


Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.

Ah right, you only get to know your mates when you've sucked them off while on drugs. Jesus. :lol:

:lol: scares me that your mind went straight there.

:lol: Naturally came to me since I was reading some article about Christ Bearer (rapper) cutting his dick off and jumping out the third floor or something the other day while on PCP.

Yeah that PCP stuff sounds nuts. Never saw anyone with it over here. Bit like Meth, met one person here with it. So rare. DMT was the maddest thing I've ever seen anyone on I reckon
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:43:52 PM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

If your happy thats fine.

But when people say I don't care about drugs but I drink really confuses me.
Alcohol and smoking are far more risky than MDMA or magic mushrooms.

"If you can't have fun without them"

Its not that people can't have fun without them its the fact it makes it 10000x better.
You could go out and not drink but still have fun but you would agree it more fun drinking.

It always seems to be the people that have never tried the drug that say how bad they are or pointless.

It was developed and still used to treat people that are depressed or case to get terminally ill people to talk to their family and feel better.
Less chance of me ever getting in a fight with someone on MDMA than beer.

Why don't you try some MDMA just a bit and and then tell me if its pointless?
If you feel the same I would respect that.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:48:27 PM
Wow, you really convinced me there son. I'll got get myself a pill and come back to you. :lol: Nah for reals, I don't see the point and probably never will try anything. Way I was raised, I don't disrespect anyone who does them as long as they don't abuse it same goes for alcohol. Everyone has their ways with stuff, mine definitely won't be pills or snorting s*** up through my deviated septum :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:49:10 PM
Neck a pill for your first gan and you'll be spot on, bomb some MDMA and you'll probably never want to look at drugs again.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:51:01 PM

Neck a pill for your first gan and you'll be spot on, bomb some MDMA and you'll probably never want to look at drugs again.

Always preferred pills me. Dat taste of MDMA man :anguish:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 10:55:42 PM
Wow, you really convinced me there son. I'll got get myself a pill and come back to you. :lol: Nah for reals, I don't see the point and probably never will try anything. Way I was raised, I don't disrespect anyone who does them as long as they don't abuse it same goes for alcohol. Everyone has their ways with stuff, mine definitely won't be pills or snorting s*** up through my deviated septum :lol:

Just makes me sad when I hear people missing out on such amazing things becasue they have been brain washed that they are so wrong.
Drugs really open your mind and help you learn so much about yourself its unreal.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:05:53 PM

Neck a pill for your first gan and you'll be spot on, bomb some MDMA and you'll probably never want to look at drugs again.

Always preferred pills me. Dat taste of MDMA man :anguish:
It's horrible gear imo, only bombed it a couple of times but I've seen people sniff it thinking they're sneaking a line of coke and then sit there in tears as they've just half blown their nose off.

Not a fan of tripping or anything like, which is what I suppose people who haven't had any think when they hear drugs, just a bit of coke or a joint now and then depending on what I'm doing. Cannot really see the difference from drinking or smoking tbh.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SiLvOR on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:06:44 PM
I wana try coke. I sound like a 13 year old girl, but I just do :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:09:13 PM
I wana try coke. I sound like a 13 year old girl, but I just do :lol:

Come to the Gateshead match and Santoon will sort ya pet.
I will be close to make sure you are safe
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SiLvOR on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:15:44 PM
:lol: if I lived close I'd be like a little bit tempted
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:23:08 PM
Anyone banged on coke? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:24:06 PM
Aye, it's f***ing annoying.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:25:33 PM
Anyone reckon these would be any good? (The site is legal...i think)

http://www.trufflemagic.com/magic-truffles-webshop/magic-truffle-bulk-deals/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:27:43 PM
http://mush-e-mart.com/

best i have ever used
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:31:00 PM
http://mush-e-mart.com/

best i have ever used

Got them fine and that?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 23 April 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Neck a pill for your first gan and you'll be spot on, bomb some MDMA and you'll probably never want to look at drugs again.

:lol: Naaah, man. Get Flip to gum some madman and he'd be aaal awa the shop. He'd be hooked.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:07:13 AM
http://mush-e-mart.com/

best i have ever used

Got them fine and that?

:lol: Do we trust slim with this?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:08:10 AM

http://mush-e-mart.com/

best i have ever used

Got them fine and that?

:lol: Do we trust slim with this?

He's actually pretty organised IRL
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:08:55 AM
I'm going to end up sniffing pop tarts in my own kitchen again aren't I.

Drugs online would be so bad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:09:53 AM
Looks legit :mou:

(http://i.imgur.com/e3fHore.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:11:53 AM
Weed's s***.

If you wanna chill out for a few hours feeling great just eat a load of diazys or clonazepam, or my personal favourite, etizolam.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:12:37 AM
Looks legit :mou:

(http://i.imgur.com/e3fHore.jpg)

I'm gonna do it. Will report back immediately or in 5-10 years, depending on the breaks.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:15:21 AM
Weed's s***.

If you wanna chill out for a few hours feeling great just eat a load of diazys or clonazepam, or my personal favourite, etizolam.

Prescription drug innit.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:19:15 AM
I buy etizolam online, cheap aswell.  Better than paying £1 a pill off some knacker for a diazy.

Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips.  Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:21:15 AM

I buy etizolam online, cheap aswell.  Better than paying £1 a pill off some knacker for a diazy.

Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips.  Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.

Pm a brother a link? Been looking for a decent site like
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:23:27 AM

I buy etizolam online, cheap aswell.  Better than paying £1 a pill off some knacker for a diazy.

Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips.  Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.

Pm a brother a link? Been looking for a decent site like
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:23:56 AM
Have a feeling when I make it for a night out in Newcastle I'll be meeting up with SanToon. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:25:20 AM

Have a feeling when I make it for a night out in Newcastle I'll be meeting up with SanToon. :lol:

:thup: do it man, me and slim have been carrying the torch for NO nights recently
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:27:06 AM

I buy etizolam online, cheap aswell.  Better than paying £1 a pill off some knacker for a diazy.

Proper pharmacutical pressed ones aswell come in strips.  Usually just bang a couple after a night out on charlie or meph so I can get straight to sleep with no comedown, but also great for chilling out on.

Pm a brother a link? Been looking for a decent site like
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:27:59 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:29:10 AM

Have a feeling when I make it for a night out in Newcastle I'll be meeting up with SanToon. :lol:

:thup: do it man, me and slim have been carrying the torch for NO nights recently

Me and Decky have been talking about it for the summer. Would imagine it'll be around August time as we've so many gigs in July. Hopefully we get you near the start of the season and go for a double whammy. I was for coming over to go to Shark Bar for Mania and then nobody from the wrestling thread bothered. :lol: Ma was booking the flights for my birthday and all. Rage.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:29:54 AM
How many of these are we looking at for a "good time" Messi? Seems a waste to get 10.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:30:50 AM
I feel like Dave is going to come in here in a minute and we're in for it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:32:07 AM


Have a feeling when I make it for a night out in Newcastle I'll be meeting up with SanToon. :lol:

:thup: do it man, me and slim have been carrying the torch for NO nights recently

Me and Decky have been talking about it for the summer. Would imagine it'll be around August time as we've so many gigs in July. Hopefully we get you near the start of the season and go for a double whammy. I was for coming over to go to Shark Bar for Mania and then nobody from the wrestling thread bothered. :lol: Ma was booking the flights for my birthday and all. Rage.

:lol: yeah man do it, try get a decent amount of people out will be a laugh. Class city to go out in.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:32:26 AM

I feel like Dave is going to come in here in a minute and we're in for it.

:lol: same. Paranoia kicking in
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:34:30 AM
Should maybe hide this from guests or something. :lol: I always have brain farts and never realise when I do wrong stuff on the forum. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:35:31 AM
2 of them gives you a good, chilled feeling for a good few hours.  They are the most euphoric of all benzos imo and kick in fast.

I'd go for 50.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:37:56 AM

2 of them gives you a good, chilled feeling for a good few hours.  They are the most euphoric of all benzos imo and kick in fast.

I'd go for 50.

They any good for like sleeping, bang one for a decent nights sleep or whatever? Used to have Diaz before sleep sometimes was mint
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:38:59 AM
The best, lights out after 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:39:11 AM
:lol: I'm cross referencing everything on the site with reviews from the drug sub reddit. :lol: I'm going to be minced for weeks.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:41:04 AM

The best, lights out after 10 minutes.

:thup: sounds class.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:54:34 AM
Weed's s***.

If you wanna chill out for a few hours feeling great just eat a load of diazys or clonazepam, or my personal favourite, etizolam.

Prescription drug innit.

Together is great pain relief man. Don't get the weed hate myself like
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:58:49 AM
It's great, I just hate tobacco, so it's a pipe or an apple.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Flip on Thursday 24 April 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Wow, you really convinced me there son. I'll got get myself a pill and come back to you. :lol: Nah for reals, I don't see the point and probably never will try anything. Way I was raised, I don't disrespect anyone who does them as long as they don't abuse it same goes for alcohol. Everyone has their ways with stuff, mine definitely won't be pills or snorting s*** up through my deviated septum :lol:

Just makes me sad when I hear people missing out on such amazing things becasue they have been brain washed that they are so wrong.
Drugs really open your mind and help you learn so much about yourself its unreal.


That how you realized the most intimate things about you? Just like Santoon and his friends? Definitely staying off drugs if that's the case :p
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: odog on Thursday 24 April 2014, 10:08:30 AM
Are blues, yellows and wobblies still popular with the youth of today or have those f*** awful legal high s**** took over? I've done a bit of this and that in my time and dabble on and off now but nowt too serious but those mixed with alcohol were crazy. Once when I was about 14/15 I done a bottle of Vodka in with a mate and dropped ten blues. Was f***ed for three days in a weird and chilled way. I knew of others at the time who used to drop them and do some insane psychotic criminal s***. Sure it was about a quid a blue or wobbly and about 50p for yellows. Bargain.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 24 April 2014, 12:42:25 PM
I feel like I literally cant do pills anymore, the comedown is that horrific. It never used to be, but these days it's not worth it. Mdma not as much, but had a an absolutely lifting comedown on it about a month or so ago and ive been reluctant to session on it since.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 April 2014, 01:44:02 PM
Would never touch legal high's
Biggest problem with drugs are the quality.  Needs to be legal so quality is controlled.
 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:29:20 PM
Any legals that are good from a sex point of view? It could be increased horniness, firmer erection, more load. (:yao:), or whatever.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:32:13 PM
Sniff loads of wizz
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:33:21 PM
Any legals that are good from a sex point of view? It could be increased horniness, firmer erection, more load. (:yao:), or whatever.

:lol: I doubt it. Illegally coke is unreal for it but it can be difficult to get a root sometimes. If you get the balance right though, hallelujah.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:45:00 PM
Sniff loads of wizz

Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-GAL!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 24 April 2014, 02:55:33 PM
It is legal, I'll sell you some. £50 a gram.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 24 April 2014, 03:04:32 PM
Any legals that are good from a sex point of view? It could be increased horniness, firmer erection, more load. (:yao:), or whatever.

:lol: I doubt it. Illegally coke is unreal for it but it can be difficult to get a root sometimes. If you get the balance right though, hallelujah.

I struggle to stand to attention (without any aid) on any sort of gear if im honest like. Probably a psychological thing more than owt else. Good job there is stuff readily available to combat such things.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 April 2014, 03:04:47 PM
It is legal, I'll sell you some. £50 a gram.

You're such a w*****. :yao:

( Like me. )
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 24 April 2014, 07:09:17 PM
The best, lights out after 10 minutes.

So if I took a couple at work I would be found fast asleep at my desk shortly after? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ED209 on Thursday 24 April 2014, 07:51:27 PM
drugs are for mugs, losers!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 April 2014, 07:52:43 PM
Less drugs, more hugs.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 April 2014, 08:47:17 PM
More drugs, more hugs
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 24 April 2014, 09:05:11 PM
Heroin
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 3 May 2014, 01:54:24 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Saturday 3 May 2014, 02:34:14 AM
yes
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Saturday 3 May 2014, 02:48:02 AM
What's the best sexual drug?

No, no.... I'm not saying I'm looking for one of those Viagra drugs. I mean drugs that would make you...... well..... bang your bird around for longer.

If not, then anything that that makes you ejaculate some more.

Not saying I've got a problem there..... it's just would be nice to try some s*** like that for a change. :joey:
Legal cocktail:  L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum.  1000mg, 50mg, 100mg respectively once a day with meals. increases load volume + consistency a ridiculous amount.  Improves erection firmness. Quite fun alone or with others. 

edit: You have to be taking it for a little while though.  Like a few days before you notice anything major. 
i hope my load enhancing trick has helped a few souls over the years.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 3 May 2014, 10:26:52 AM
Still haven't bothered to try it. But might do now....

.... is there a pill that contains all three ingredients that you've listed? Or do I need to take them separately?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 3 May 2014, 10:55:03 AM
yes

:thup:

Got a ton of those last night and 18mg of Diazepam. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 3 May 2014, 10:58:19 AM
Got a load of that stuff Messi was on about. Lost about 3 days this week :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 3 May 2014, 11:02:14 AM
Got a load of that stuff Messi was on about. Lost about 3 days this week :lol:

Aye I've that too. :lol: Going to lose a month shortly I feel.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 3 May 2014, 11:10:16 AM
I asked the missus where the pot of chilli sauce came from, apparently she went to town for a few hours the other day, brought me food back which I apparently ate. Don't remember any of this :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 3 May 2014, 11:15:08 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?
I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Saturday 3 May 2014, 09:55:29 PM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?
I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.

:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 10:24:53 AM
I asked the missus where the pot of chilli sauce came from, apparently she went to town for a few hours the other day, brought me food back which I apparently ate. Don't remember any of this :lol:

Took one later on Saturday and have lost loads of my stuff! :lol: These things aren't right or I have had a bad batch! Complete memory loss and random stuff happening.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: davy_fulla on Monday 5 May 2014, 10:57:30 AM
Is it wrong that I've never tried any drugs? Don't really see the point either. Seems completely pointless. If you can't have fun without them, what type of person are you? Granted I do have more fun with alcohol :lol:

:lol: I had fun without em too. Just something to do I guess. Can honestly say the funniest/best times of my life were in those days. Get to know your mates way better after a few pills, binds friendships I think.

agree.  whenever i think back to the funniest times of my life there's always a couple of cowies involved.  met a mate i'd never seen in years in foundation one night. went back to his for an after party.  met some other lads there and they're now my closest friends and we're godparents to each others kids. the 2000s was a mad decade for me.  a blur of stupidity and stories that you just couldn't make up.  ah the magic of mdma!!!!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:08:44 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?
I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.

:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?
Aye, now they only target pain. :(
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:10:42 AM
My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:16:41 AM
My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh

In one session? :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:21:04 AM

My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh

In one session? :lol:

Yeah man, I was speaking to him at about 11am and he'd done 3 and snorted another. I was mega para that he'd die or whatever so was trying to contact him all day. Didn't hear from till about 24 hours later. Broken latop, crate of beer down, and only 1 pack left of the 100 he'd ordered. They guy is honestly superhuman.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:23:47 AM

My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh

In one session? :lol:

Yeah man, I was speaking to him at about 11am and he'd done 3 and snorted another. I was mega para that he'd die or whatever so was trying to contact him all day. Didn't hear from till about 24 hours later. Broken latop, crate of beer down, and only 1 pack left of the 100 he'd ordered. They guy is honestly superhuman.

Fair play. I don't have the minerals/psychological make up to deal with s*** like that. One makes me do weird s***, two really weird s*** (probably). 40!? I'd be spending a lot of time in prison/a mental health facility.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:25:24 AM


My mate did about 40plus those things messi reccomended. Safe to say he can't remember s***. He's superhuman with s**** like that tbh

In one session? :lol:

Yeah man, I was speaking to him at about 11am and he'd done 3 and snorted another. I was mega para that he'd die or whatever so was trying to contact him all day. Didn't hear from till about 24 hours later. Broken latop, crate of beer down, and only 1 pack left of the 100 he'd ordered. They guy is honestly superhuman.

Fair play. I don't have the minerals/psychological make up to deal with s*** like that. One makes me do weird s***, two really weird s*** (probably). 40!? I'd be spending a lot of time in prison/a mental health facility.

I had a couple yesterday and felt okay but I've smashed Vallys in the past tbh. Yeah I don't have the capacity these days. I could feel myself wanting more on them though but manages to curtail myself.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:40:38 AM
I've done a lot of vallium at times and been relatively okay, I really think I got a dodgy batch of this stuff :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 5 May 2014, 11:44:23 AM

I've done a lot of vallium at times and been relatively okay, I really think I got a dodgy batch of this stuff :lol:

:lol: how have you found them? I sort of feel like valium slightly stronger/quicker acting. Defo income memory about as well
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Monday 5 May 2014, 12:40:11 PM

I've done a lot of vallium at times and been relatively okay, I really think I got a dodgy batch of this stuff :lol:

:lol: how have you found them? I sort of feel like valium slightly stronger/quicker acting. Defo income memory about as well

I find this stuff a lot quicker acting, I have fell asleep then apparently done a lot of stuff I don't realise I have done.

Considering binning them all tbh, concerned I might to do something I can't take back :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Monday 5 May 2014, 01:33:03 PM
Benzo blackouts, man.  Always a horrifying experience.

Remember standing in my mates living room in nothing but my keks while his mum was sat in there and my mate was asleep.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 10 May 2014, 11:57:26 AM
Had one of these to get myself asleep last night, woke up, have been posting on here then woke up when my phone was ringing about 11.35am.

Went to run a bath but noticed the bath mat was wet, had to do some investigation and it turns out at some point between posting on here and going to sleep I had a bath but I don't remember it at all! :lol:

Some serious memory loss going on tbh! :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:20:57 PM
Vallium again?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:26:55 PM
Nah that s*** Messi recommended.  Vallium has never been a problem for me.

I really like the feeling it gives me at the time but I am just waiting for that moment when I wake up and there are 4 dead people also in the room :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:34:15 PM
Oh the etizolam. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 10 May 2014, 12:38:41 PM
Oh the etizolam. :lol:

Yeah :lol:

Most drugs have always had some weird s*** going on in my head so these reactions are probably different to the majority. I am just prone to doing some weird s*** whenever the chemical balance of my brain is slightly adjusted :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 11 May 2014, 08:22:53 PM
Had one of these to get myself asleep last night, woke up, have been posting on here then woke up when my phone was ringing about 11.35am.

Went to run a bath but noticed the bath mat was wet, had to do some investigation and it turns out at some point between posting on here and going to sleep I had a bath but I don't remember it at all! :lol:

Some serious memory loss going on tbh! :lol:

All of this after one? What the hell. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:01:23 PM
My brain is f***ed :lol: I could take a Nuforen plus and wake up in a field, dressed as Fireman Sam with dead dolphins scattered around me :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:11:28 PM
Dead dolphins :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TheHoob on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:15:31 PM
Getting prescription meds recommended from a football forum was never likely to end well  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:18:13 PM
I had 4 last night and all that happened was casually talking to my can of tango about how good my crispy duck was whilst drifting off to sleep. Was p*ssed as a fart aswell mind.

If I completely forgot I had a bath after one I'd still be curled up, crying and freaking out.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 11 May 2014, 09:21:19 PM
If Cajun wakes up one day covered in blood eating someones foot I was never a member of this forum.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: JS on Sunday 11 May 2014, 10:47:13 PM
This thread is gold after a good smoke like :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 16 May 2014, 12:54:25 PM
Not exactly a drug I know, but has anyone tried Nitric Oxide?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Friday 16 May 2014, 04:48:20 PM
Intrigued about this Etizolam, like.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 16 May 2014, 05:40:49 PM
First time I've been in this thread, spent the last 20 minutes just creasing. Mainly at the thought of Cajun's dead dolphins episode.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Friday 16 May 2014, 09:40:36 PM
Intrigued about this Etizolam, like.



Don't take my experiences as anything to go by, I was a semi-regular drug user about 12-13 years ago and had a good night off half a pill once.

I think I just lucked out with how easy it is for something to have an effect on me :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 16 May 2014, 09:42:56 PM
They're a bit intense like. More so than Vallys I reckon
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Friday 16 May 2014, 09:46:20 PM
Still haven't tried one at work, not sure how I would be around a lot of people and trying to be productive.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 16 May 2014, 10:30:39 PM
The memory loss would be too bad in public like. I'd be convinced I'd had a w*** or something. Be horrible
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BrettNUFC on Saturday 17 May 2014, 01:30:37 AM
The memory loss would be too bad in public like. I'd be convinced I'd had a w*** or something. Be horrible

No wonder you think you're good at snooker if you have memory loss on these drugs and forget how s*** you actually are  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Saturday 17 May 2014, 05:20:25 AM
Can't believe yous get such a dig off them, they chill me oot
and get me to sleep. :lol:

I'd probably recommend you get 2mg diclazepam. The effects are less subtle but last a lot longer.  No intensity.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 17 May 2014, 07:13:24 AM
Can't believe yous get such a dig off them, they chill me oot
and get me to sleep. :lol:

I'd probably recommend you get 2mg diclazepam. The effects are less subtle but last a lot longer.  No intensity.


Will have a bit of a shopping spree on payday, try ALL the drugs!

Had a couple of these last night, no mental stuff but slept like a baby which is a miracle for me really.

Good recommendation all in all, even with the weird stuff :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Saturday 17 May 2014, 07:20:27 AM
I am 80% sure I just bought a dime bag from Chief Keef
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 17 May 2014, 09:29:21 AM

The memory loss would be too bad in public like. I'd be convinced I'd had a w*** or something. Be horrible

No wonder you think you're good at snooker if you have memory loss on these drugs and forget how s*** you actually are  :lol:

:lol: rattled. It's a shame you can't appreciate the tactical side of the game. 2 sessions down and I'm already looking the better player
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BrettNUFC on Saturday 17 May 2014, 01:43:26 PM

The memory loss would be too bad in public like. I'd be convinced I'd had a w*** or something. Be horrible

No wonder you think you're good at snooker if you have memory loss on these drugs and forget how s*** you actually are  :lol:

:lol: rattled. It's a shame you can't appreciate the tactical side of the game. 2 sessions down and I'm already looking the better player

 :spit:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Rocker on Saturday 17 May 2014, 07:32:11 PM
Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 17 May 2014, 09:23:23 PM

Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.

:lol: 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: triggs on Sunday 18 May 2014, 12:38:00 AM
Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.
Saying alcohol is a drink is like saying flour is a food
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 18 May 2014, 02:03:16 AM
Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.

:lol: good lad
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 18 May 2014, 09:50:07 AM

Some people say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink.
Saying alcohol is a drink is like saying flour is a food

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Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Friday 23 May 2014, 05:21:53 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?
I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.

:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?

These are £30 for 100 x 100mg caps in Mexico, and you can buy them over the counter. Apart from brilliant pain relief you get a nice warm opiate hug off them so I brought a load back.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 23 May 2014, 08:20:14 AM
Is Tramadol Hydrochloride any use?
I have to take 8 of those f***ers a day.

:lol: Jesus man, I had 4 the other day and I was cained. All day. I suppose the effects lessen with use?

These are £30 for 100 x 100mg caps in Mexico, and you can buy them over the counter. Apart from brilliant pain relief you get a nice warm opiate hug off them so I brought a load back.

Last time I had them I took 16 over the space of a couple of hours. Nice high but the nausea afterwards was awful. I could barely move without being sick. It went away quick enough mind.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Friday 23 May 2014, 07:38:10 PM
Sweet, my source has got a load if dutch pills and dutch mdma in.

Never tried molly so looking forward to testing. The garys are a tenner a pop, bit pricey.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Friday 23 May 2014, 09:00:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJK5YpMLZY


Explains the way Neesy looks at me
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Friday 23 May 2014, 09:20:56 PM
Sweet, my source has got a load if dutch pills and dutch mdma in.

Never tried molly so looking forward to testing. The garys are a tenner a pop, bit pricey.

MDMA is so f***ing good. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 23 May 2014, 09:22:32 PM

Sweet, my source has got a load if dutch pills and dutch mdma in.

Never tried molly so looking forward to testing. The garys are a tenner a pop, bit pricey.

Had a Dutch pill must have been at least 14 years ago. Bermuda Triangle think it was called. Was insane. In a good way
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Friday 23 May 2014, 11:26:44 PM
Can't wait to dyson some Molly.

Last pills I had from Holland were nintendos.  Blew the chin clean off me.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 24 May 2014, 09:35:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJK5YpMLZY


Explains the way Neesy looks at me

Blasted.

 :lol: :lol:

Last time I tripped was 1999 before the FA cup Semi Final with Spurs....Went to Morpeth first where my pal was DJing, had some drinks and I think I had a bad pint and felt a bit sick/off.  Went back to or other pals flat and they had some trips.  I really didnt fancy one at all but was talked into necking a half...Felt f***ing sick the rest of the night and this lass kept leaning across me and leaning on me.  Really annoying.  With no real effects happening from the acid.

Got to 8 am in the morning and I got a lift home still feeling f***ing sick, got in the house sat down on the bog, had a s*** and started tripping my face off.  Man what a time for it to kick in  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 24 May 2014, 11:24:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PZoE2H66hk

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: wacko on Saturday 24 May 2014, 11:56:06 AM
Got to 8 am in the morning and I got a lift home still feeling f***ing sick, got in the house sat down on the bog, had a s*** and started tripping my face off.  Man what a time for it to kick in  :lol: :lol:

Had to s*** a few times on shrooms. Very strange experience. Would recommend :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Saturday 24 May 2014, 12:13:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJK5YpMLZY


Explains the way Neesy looks at me

:lol: :lol:

Love that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 26 May 2014, 12:13:15 PM
Hahaha that is definitely neesy like!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 31 May 2014, 06:03:08 AM
Think I might have to knock these on the head like :lol:

Looks like I signed off here last night around 9:45 and can't remember anything since. Have loads of missed calls and texts from my lass.

Worst thing is I didn't take any yesterday.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Saturday 31 May 2014, 05:34:09 PM
No offence mate but what the hell's up with you? Seemingly every post I see from you now is about you necking a fuckload of drugs. :lol: Each to their own and all that, hope you're alright like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Saturday 31 May 2014, 05:50:53 PM
I like how half his posts are "jokey psychopath", and the others are about memory loss.  A dangerous combination.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Open_C on Saturday 31 May 2014, 05:51:57 PM

Leads to watching the news through your fingers hoping that it wasn't you, presumably :undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 31 May 2014, 08:04:01 PM
No offence mate but what the hell's up with you? Seemingly every post I see from you now is about you necking a fuckload of drugs. :lol: Each to their own and all that, hope you're alright like.

:thup:

Agree with this like, you need to be careful Cajun.  Are they drugs designed to calm you down?  I'm hardly one to preach on this subject like but these things can get on top of you before you've even realised if you don't watch what you're doing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 31 May 2014, 08:58:15 PM
I like how half his posts are "jokey psychopath", and the others are about memory loss.  A dangerous combination.

Blacked out today, no-one found dead.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:02:13 PM
Cajun is Jack Nicholson in The Shining to me like. Avatars have a lasting effect on people.

Cajun:
(http://www.tvbomb.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/3203925213_0f1d854f95.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:04:05 PM
Ha, that video above is from '86 I think, but it's Doncater Warehoue. One of the DJ's playing in the video is a very young M-Zone who I know quite well and have DJ'd with him lots of times in various events in South West of England.

You need to see the full version as there are far more people off their tits, back in the days when lil ones cost £20 and f***ed you up all night long as they were strong MDMA, not like today where it could be bubble or all sorts of s***/legal high in them.

The tall chap with the two fingers giving it f*** is  :lol:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHWTM8ey9g

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:04:42 PM
Skip to 2.10 and watch on, epic gurn!  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:16:53 PM
Ha, that video above is from '86 I think, but it's Doncater Warehoue. One of the DJ's playing in the video is a very young M-Zone who I know quite well and have DJ'd with him lots of times in various events in South West of England.

You need to see the full version as there are far more people off their tits, back in the days when lil ones cost £20 and f***ed you up all night long as they were strong MDMA, not like today where it could be bubble or all sorts of s***/legal high in them.

The tall chap with the two fingers giving it f*** is  :lol:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHWTM8ey9g

You know M-Zone? Quality. I was massively into hardcore from like 2000 onwards like still follow it a bit and wont ever lose the love of it. But Mark EG/M -xone were nearly always on the raves I went to tbh
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:37:58 PM
Yeah I've been a DJ for 13 years now and done a lot of good events when it was at it's peak, so of over the course of the years met M-Zone and Mark EG quite a bit, both lovely people who really care about music scene. I play mostly Hard Trance and Hardstyle but I've done the odd Hardcore set. Also play Techno and Trance as well.

Used to be in to Hardcore from around early to mid 90's, but from 2001 got hooked on what Mark EG and M-Zone were playing and left Hardcore behind.

https://soundcloud.com/djhakka-1

Here's all my mixes posted online, mostly home/studio mixes but also live ones in there. Nothing Hardcore but if I like Mark EG and M-Zone stuff you will find plenty they used to caine.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:44:17 PM
Yeah I've been a DJ for 13 years now and done a lot of good events when it was at it's peak, so of over the course of the years met M-Zone and Mark EG quite a bit, both lovely people who really care about music scene. I play mostly Hard Trance and Hardstyle but I've done the odd Hardcore set. Also play Techno and Trance as well.

Used to be in to Hardcore from around early to mid 90's, but from 2001 got hooked on what Mark EG and M-Zone were playing and left Hardcore behind.

https://soundcloud.com/djhakka-1

Here's all my mixes posted online, mostly home/studio mixes but also live ones in there. Nothing Hardcore but if I like Mark EG and M-Zone stuff you will find plenty they used to caine.

:thup: nice one man.  Yeah I remember I used to like the Hard Trance a lot, hardcore was obviously my main one, but often there would be a hard dance room so I'd catch Mark EG and M-Zone if taking a break from the hardcore. Gabba is prob my favourite dance music outside of Hardcore. It's just relentlessly evil
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:46:47 PM
Ah Gabba! haha, that's always got a special place in my heart. Never tried to mix it or make it, but as you say it's pure evil and relentless, totally sick sounds!  :lol:

 :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 31 May 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Ah Gabba! haha, that's always got a special place in my heart. Never tried to mix it or make it, but as you say it's pure evil and relentless, totally sick sounds!  :lol:

 :thup:

Yeah its mental. Probably the best set I've seen was Viper at The sanctuary prob 2002. Came on after Breeze and Styles had played like a a full on euphoric hardcore set, everyone buzzing, loved up. Viper comes on and plays the harshest set ever and totally switched the vibe in there. Aamazing
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Saturday 31 May 2014, 11:03:52 PM
Disco is the best drug going
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 08:41:54 AM
Cheers for the concerns. I'll be alright :)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:38:13 AM
Jon man you mess, I've got your Websleuths thread loaded and ready to go when you finally crack.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:42:18 AM
Cheers for the concerns. I'll be alright :)

You're going of the rails man, it's time for a forum intervention. We will save you, you'll thanks us in the end.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:44:57 AM
Jon man you mess, I've got your Websleuths thread loaded and ready to go when you finally crack.

Won't be long, I would PM you a few clues but I want to take out as many as possible :)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:49:12 AM
You've PM'd me enough weird s*** while you've been on these drugs without offering more.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:50:19 AM
Ah.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:52:41 AM
Nah, you've definitely posted stuff you wouldn't want to make public (nee tits or owt though!).
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:54:06 AM
This thread is strange
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 09:57:37 AM
I think it's the people in it that are strange.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:00:11 AM
Jill is off (not yet sent picture of her) tits.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:03:03 AM
Jill is off tits? Well that's a shame (although I didn't realise she was into them) tbh

Perhaps it's a drug related euphemism though  :undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:30:32 AM
Cajun has gone demented, I think.

Tits are rubbish, btw.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Belfast Mags on Sunday 1 June 2014, 10:48:41 AM
Jill pls
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Sunday 1 June 2014, 02:26:12 PM
This thread has started to turn me on a little bit.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Sunday 1 June 2014, 08:08:03 PM
Makes sense you have Giggs as your avatar then.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: davy_fulla on Sunday 1 June 2014, 11:00:35 PM
Ha, that video above is from '86 I think, but it's Doncater Warehoue. One of the DJ's playing in the video is a very young M-Zone who I know quite well and have DJ'd with him lots of times in various events in South West of England.

You need to see the full version as there are far more people off their tits, back in the days when lil ones cost £20 and f***ed you up all night long as they were strong MDMA, not like today where it could be bubble or all sorts of s***/legal high in them.

The tall chap with the two fingers giving it f*** is  :lol:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHWTM8ey9g

Guy at about 2 mins is having a reet old gurn.  Looks like sloth out the goonies
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: davy_fulla on Sunday 1 June 2014, 11:03:00 PM
Ha didn't realise he was on all the way through. Legend. He's prob about 60 yr old now rocking back and forwards talking to his cat haha
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 15 June 2014, 10:13:24 AM
Have to say these drugs have really helped with my anxiety, a little worried how far though. I have been a proper cheeky c*** to my boss recently. She seems to be responding well at the moment but I think I am going to take it too far.

They also give me darks thoughts.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Sargey on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 04:50:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzP1XC51kro
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 05:02:47 PM
What the f*** is that? :lol:

Guy at 2.38 haha
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 06:52:48 PM
http://www.iflscience.com/chemistry/amazing-photographs-drugs-under-microscope
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 15 July 2014, 07:07:48 PM
That club is f***ing revolting
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Saturday 2 August 2014, 05:04:01 PM
Cumbria PoliceVerified account ‏@Cumbriapolice

Police are warning everyone at #KendalCalling about the harmful effect of a strong batch of MDMA at the festival #notodrugs #notworththerisk

Warning people there is strong MDMA around will only encourage  people to buy it.
What a stupid warning.

Just take a half
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 30 October 2014, 11:51:35 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29824764
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 30 October 2014, 12:58:21 PM
Staggering it needed to be said.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 30 October 2014, 01:11:52 PM
There really is some ridiculous pills about at the minute like.

Third degree gurns all over the place.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 30 October 2014, 01:31:03 PM
There really is some ridiculous pills about at the minute like.

Third degree gurns all over the place.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AyeDubbleYoo on Thursday 30 October 2014, 01:56:52 PM
Staggering it needed to be said.

There's no link between severe penalties and any kind of crime that I can see. It's a massive fallacy that government has to maintain. The thought of the penalty enters the mind of an absolutely tiny proportion of offenders... just seems obvious that people don't work like that.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 30 October 2014, 02:02:20 PM
:nods:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 30 October 2014, 02:13:47 PM
http://www.grahamhancock.com/features/the-war-on-onsciousness.php
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 3 November 2014, 01:55:46 PM
Aye, definitely.  It's also cheap as f*** in South America and generally a lot better quality than anything you get outwith SA.  Legalise it ALL~!~!~!!~!~!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Astroblack on Tuesday 4 November 2014, 12:10:44 AM
Got myself an Adderoll prescription and a diagnosis for ADD. Pretty good so far. Went from getting a 50 in one of my classes to getting a 103. Haven't had many side affects yet because I researched the thing and only take them for high stress situations. Quite good for a night out, too. I have quite a bit of anxiety and this stuff keeps my head up. Makes me feel normal tbh. I'm in the US. Curious if they're allowed in England.

Tried xanax a couple times. Blacked out both times. First time my friend was with me and he took me home. Second time I woke up at a co workers house. Don't remember a single thing from both nights and I'll never do the stuff again.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Saturday 7 March 2015, 12:48:17 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/05/psychedelic-drugs-like-lsd-could-be-used-to-treat-depression-study-suggests
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:43:59 AM
Anyone got any thoughts on The Culture High?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:51:47 AM
Another spot on documentary on the farce that is drug prohibition.  I'm bored of them now though, just hurry up and get this s*** decriminalised already.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:54:12 AM
:thup: Bored of it too, thought about watching that many times while high but it's just pointless now. We know which side is going to win eventually, get it over with please.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:55:33 AM
Ridiculous we are this far down the line and not even considered a reality. Says a lot a about the constraints of the world right now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 01:28:03 AM
When you step back and actually look at the facts, it's just totally farcical. I think most people know something's up, yet the decriminalisation campaign are still widely perceived as hippies after a quick fix.

I'm beginning to think though it isn't just misinformation, an even bigger problem is people simply don't want to know. The evidence in favour of legalisation is so overwhelming it's almost stupid, yet we're still many years away from it in all likelihood.

I ask because I just watched it. Like a lot of people was pro-legalisation before watching it but some of the factual evidence is just incredible.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 02:12:43 AM
Have you seen 'The House I Live In'?  Out a couple of years back, probably the thinking man's version of TCH.  It was that one that basically stopped me seeking out more information to valid our sort of stance.  Hate the complete lack of action on it in the UK.  Sad times when the US is opening up to a more liberal stance on drugs before we are even talking about it. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 11:32:24 PM
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/rt3okm.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:10:50 AM
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/rt3okm.jpg)

Makes no sense

Most likely you would be home on a come down.
Sounds like they are talking about Pill or MDMA but why would you have a blocked nose unless doing coke.

And £150 must be on about coke.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:26:19 AM
Mephedrone.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:41:26 AM
Got myself an Adderoll prescription and a diagnosis for ADD. Pretty good so far. Went from getting a 50 in one of my classes to getting a 103. Haven't had many side affects yet because I researched the thing and only take them for high stress situations. Quite good for a night out, too. I have quite a bit of anxiety and this stuff keeps my head up. Makes me feel normal tbh. I'm in the US. Curious if they're allowed in England.

Tried xanax a couple times. Blacked out both times. First time my friend was with me and he took me home. Second time I woke up at a co workers house. Don't remember a single thing from both nights and I'll never do the stuff again.

When I tried Adderall, it really f***ed me up. I'm not used to being so antsy.

I took toporimate for my headaches, and it's the worst s*** I have ever taken. My headaches got worst, and it f***ed up my whole system. Made me paranoid, and caused pins and needles everywhere. I stopped it after 10 days and refused to take it again.  I'd rather take several hits of acid than that horrible stuff.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:43:40 AM
You say several hits of acid like that's a bad thing, QM. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 20 June 2015, 06:45:35 PM
http://reset.me/personal-story/psilocybin-mushrooms-gave-me-the-compassion-to-forgive-myself/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Monday 22 June 2015, 04:59:46 PM
Argument over.

https://youtu.be/W8yYJ_oV6xk
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 June 2015, 06:28:58 PM
Wonder if, as they legalise cannabis more and more, there will be a review of those cases where possession of weed got some poor c*** the jail. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 22 June 2015, 06:34:51 PM
I get sick of watching videos like that, tbh. The only people who watch s*** like that are people who take the f***ing things, who already know the score.

I'm sure most politicians know the terrible effects of prohibition as well, but no-one will stick their neck out. Self preservation, it's terribly bad PR to be seen supporting drug reform.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 June 2015, 06:50:54 PM
Copy cat.

I'm bored of them now though, just hurry up and get this s*** decriminalised already.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Noodles on Monday 22 June 2015, 08:10:50 PM
I honestly do think we'll see an end to prohibition in our lifetime.

Jesus I well wanna watch the opening scene of layer cake right about now :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 22 June 2015, 08:27:43 PM
I honestly do think we'll see an end to prohibition in our lifetime.

Jesus I well wanna watch the opening scene of layer cake right about now :lol:

Yeah? How come? I hope so, but I can't see it myself
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 June 2015, 08:31:15 PM
There's heavy progress in America, then we'll copy.  Eventually.  Guess it depends if you/he just means weed or all drugs like, say, Portugal.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Noodles on Tuesday 23 June 2015, 09:12:29 AM
I honestly do think we'll see an end to prohibition in our lifetime.

Jesus I well wanna watch the opening scene of layer cake right about now :lol:

Yeah? How come? I hope so, but I can't see it myself

Purely based on the turning of the tide of public opinion mate. People will see the figures coming out of Portugal and realise that the criminalisation of users has been a policy as barbaric as the criminalising of failed suicides used to be.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sixx on Sunday 5 July 2015, 07:46:12 AM
I took a concerta like 7 hours ago. Feel like I could be up until christmas. Never doing this again. f***.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:19:52 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/public-to-have-say-on-legality-of-drugs-340721.html

Everywhere but progressive Britain.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:34:31 PM
I took a concerta like 7 hours ago. Feel like I could be up until christmas. Never doing this again. f***.

How many mg?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:35:47 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 6 July 2015, 06:39:17 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html

Yeah, a lot of people baulk at the idea of 'legalising' stronger drugs.  It's understandable, but it's definitely a bit short-sighted. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Monday 6 July 2015, 10:04:32 PM
I took a concerta like 7 hours ago. Feel like I could be up until christmas. Never doing this again. f***.

How many mg?

What's a concerta?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 02:02:31 AM
I've added a new poll, see what the general opinion is amongst the forum.  Mainly because those that do smoke it just assume everyone thinks the same as them. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 02:28:17 AM
The poll doesn't lie. The people have spoken.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 07:14:05 AM
Where's the option to change it to a class A?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 12:27:46 PM
Any "safe" sexual drugs?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 12:31:54 PM
Any "safe" sexual drugs?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 12:38:55 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html

All for legalising some of the lesser drugs, but definitely not this. Last thing we need is more smackheads draining the economy. Let them crack on with killing themselves.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 01:34:56 PM
Even though it's been successful in other countries? As we move from penalising addicts to offering proper rehabilitation.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 01:38:52 PM
There is some evidence to suggest that legalisation reduces the number of addicts.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 01:55:19 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html

All for legalising some of the lesser drugs, but definitely not this. Last thing we need is more smackheads draining the economy. Let them crack on with killing themselves.

I don't know the ins and outs of drug usage and trade where you are, but here (meaning Baltimore, specifically, but I'm fairly certain in many other cities as well) the heroin deaths are concentrated in areas where the population is almost entirely black, poverty, unemployment, and murder rates are disproportionately high, and neighborhoods often look like war zones. A lot of this is the result of the U.S's history of slavery, segregation, and post-segregation racism, of both the overt and institutional varieties. In light of all that, I'd rather give people a better shot at surviving than continue to abandon them.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 04:05:53 PM
In the first quarter of this year at least 39 people in Baltimore died from overdoses involving heroin laced with fentanyl. I can't help but think decriminalization and regulation would be better than the system we have right now. We'd have to figure out a way to deal with the shadow economy without further injuring already decimated communities but, f***, between incarcerations and overdoses, we've got to change something. Of course that assumes that a critical mass of people actually care--which may be a stretch.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/blog/bs-hs-fentanyl-in-heroin-20150706-story.html

All for legalising some of the lesser drugs, but definitely not this. Last thing we need is more smackheads draining the economy. Let them crack on with killing themselves.

I don't know the ins and outs of drug usage and trade where you are, but here (meaning Baltimore, specifically, but I'm fairly certain in many other cities as well) the heroin deaths are concentrated in areas where the population is almost entirely black, poverty, unemployment, and murder rates are disproportionately high, and neighborhoods often look like war zones. A lot of this is the result of the U.S's history of slavery, segregation, and post-segregation racism, of both the overt and institutional varieties. In light of all that, I'd rather give people a better shot at surviving than continue to abandon them.

Much the same here, but swapping racial factors for class ones.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 04:10:19 PM
Aside from that it wasn't the skag that killed them, it was the stuff it was cut with. If you had "clean" regulated heroin they'd still be alive.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Astroblack on Wednesday 8 July 2015, 05:25:44 PM
I took a concerta like 7 hours ago. Feel like I could be up until christmas. Never doing this again. f***.

How many mg?

What's a concerta?

Its ADHD medicine. Its like weak meth. I take adderalls. They're similar and help with focus, attention and for me, anxiety.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 9 July 2015, 05:47:40 PM
Bar a few cringey bits, I could have written that word for word.   :kasper:

http://reset.me/personal-story/psychedelics-arent-just-for-the-mentally-ill-theyre-for-normal-people-like-me-too/

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I don’t have a story for you about suffering from PTSD or having chronic fear, but I think it is equally important, if not more so, to share the experiences of people like me. Everybody has varying degrees of trauma in their life. I know that there are things that have happened to me that I have never dealt with, although they are far less traumatic than the experiences that come from spending massive amounts of time in combat zones or immersed in twisted environments and relationships.

I am currently 29-years old and three years ago I decided to make a “30 Before 30″ list. Some of the things were simple dreams I just never made time to do, like being able to do a handstand without using the wall. Others were more challenging; This summer I’m going on a survival trip in the mountains with only a utility knife and bow and arrows.

About the time I began compiling my list was the same time I began listening to one of my favorite comedian’s podcast: Joe Rogan. At this point, marijuana is basically the only drug I have ever used, although pretty regularly. I actually prefer it to alcohol. I once had an amazing night using coke and realized I needed to stay far, far away from it. I've never even smoked a cigarette, because I thought they were disgusting, and still do.

I had plenty of friends talk about doing psychedelics. I had been at parties where people had ‘shrooms or LSD and offered them to me. I just wasn’t interested. I didn't think negatively of it, I just didn't feel compelled to do them. Hearing Joe Rogan describe his experience with psychedelics just piqued my interest. I'm a research nerd and began reading everything I could get my hands on about psilocybin, peyote, mescaline, ayahuasca… I couldn’t get enough. My personality begs to be completely immersed in whatever it is I’m interested in, and to know every aspect of it, positive or negative.

Psilocybin mushrooms quickly went on my 30 Before 30 list. I began meditating every day, because I believed if I could get really good at that I would be able to guide my psychedelic experience. I put the word out to “my people” that I was in the market. Occasionally, I would check in with them. Three years went by…

I had been told a few times that somebody had something for me. It never worked out. My best friend got some, we made a great plan, but then he backed out at the last minute (that’s a different story of the heart, he didn't think he would enjoy the trip because of emotional baggage). I was devastated.

The same friend reached out to me again a couple of months ago. We made the same plans to go to my lake house outside of the city we live in. He had always taken them recreationally and I wanted to experience them, so this was going to be new to him too, despite this being his forty-ish time doing them. I had set a clear intention about what I wanted out of this trip, and I felt pulled out to the lake house the entire hour long drive. I even enjoyed the taste of the mushrooms and licked my fingers clean, which my buddy said has probably never happened in the history of the world.

I’m getting long-winded, so I’ll not go into great detail about the trip (although, I did write a detailed account of it). Ultimately, I ate an eighth of really amazing psilocybin mushrooms and had a mind-bending experience. The thoughts I had and things I saw will stay burned in my memory forever. Even after staying in the lake house from 6pm until about 8am the next day and not sleeping a wink, I felt rejuvenated. I also felt like I had birthed something, as if I had put in hard labor to create something that I loved.

I had always heard Joe Rogan say, “Yea, you gotta do them about every two months or so to reset.” I was still trying to sort out everything that next day and thought that there was no f***ing way I could ever do this every two months, even though I loved every moment of the experience. I had felt the universe wrap its arms around me and felt amazing amounts of love, but it was so much. I’m not a mother, but in my mind it would be like going from conception to birth in a matter of hours every two months.

Not a day passes that I don’t think back to something from those moments with vivid memory. However, today I feel as if I could totally do that every two months to reset. Things get swept aside so much in my daily life. There’s still trauma that I’ve buried under years of silence and eventually disregarded completely as ever happening.

Psychedelics aren’t just for the physically or mentally ill. It’s for people like me too. I refuse to be ashamed that this was something I did and will do again, but I know the looks I get when I openly talk about it are meant to shame me. I hope you are able to make a difference in the stigma that surrounds drugs like these. I would love to be a part of it in any way that I can.

And unrelated but an enlightening read:

https://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/drugs-and-the-meaning-of-life/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 10 July 2015, 07:18:27 AM
Any "safe" sexual drugs?


PM if needed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Friday 10 July 2015, 02:29:57 PM
Sniff butane while having a w***.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Parky on Saturday 25 July 2015, 12:06:46 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/25/cannabis-legalisation-petition-government-website
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 25 July 2015, 12:13:35 PM
A debate, that'll be a spectacle.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Cunning_Linguist on Saturday 25 July 2015, 01:32:36 PM
Legalise pot in the UK like they do in The Dam (I'm going there in T- 3 Weeks).

Just have licenced outlets, like coffee shops that do it.

TO be honest, I think that the Government should be concentrating more on the COcaine in this country as in the area I live, I can pretty much get a gram of Coke delivered to my door quicker than a f***ing Pizza...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TheGuv on Saturday 25 July 2015, 01:37:53 PM
I've never taken any drugs before.

Although for years it seems ridiculous that weed hasn't been legalised.

The money the government could make off it man :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 1 August 2015, 02:53:30 PM
http://psypressuk.com/2015/07/30/professor-david-nutt-why-banning-lsd-and-magic-mushrooms-is-the-worst-censorship-of-medicine-in-world-history/

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Professor David Nutt: Why Banning LSD and Magic Mushrooms is the Worst Censorship of Medicine in World History

BY RESHMA BIRING · JULY 30, 2015

Speaking at Breaking Convention, a three-day conference held in London that aimed to explore the benefits of psychedelic drugs as medicines, amongst other topics, Professor David Nutt talked to me about his concerns on how the law is interfering with medical research and why LSD is still a problem child.

Professor David Nutt is to drug science what David Attenborough is to the natural world. A renowned neuropsychopharmacologist based at Imperial College, London, Professor Nutt is famed for sparking debates around illegal drugs and government policies. He is one of a few voices for the psychedelic community, and those researching banned substances, who speaks candidly about drugs by using science to back up what he says.

Hearing him talk at Breaking Convention about how laws are making it very difficult to research psychedelic drugs, makes it feel like the human race is missing out on something: a giant leap for medicine that politicians are happy to shun. When the idea that psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin (the compound found in magic mushrooms) can be used to treat a variety of mental health issues, such as addictions, anxiety and depression, why wouldn’t you want to delve into the rabbit hole of research, and see where it takes you?

Shrouded in red tape and a bad political reputation, LSD was banned in the UK and thrown into deep space in 1966. Roll forward nearly half a century and politicians still won’t change their stance on what could be the wonder drug for therapeutic practice, regardless of what positive findings have been produced.

“Politicians have this peculiar fear of LSD,” asserts Professor Nutt. “Albert Hoffman [the Swiss scientist who first synthesised the drug in 1938] said LSD was his ‘problem child’. There is no doubt it is still a problem child for very many politicians, for reasons that are historic, based on ignorance and on disinformation.”

Public opinion about the drug, which is notoriously associated with hippy culture, paints a different picture where psychedelics are more socially acceptable than the Government leads us to believe.

“One of the interesting things about psychedelics is that there is an enormous amount of sympathy in the general public to their use, particularly as medicines,” explains Professor Nutt. “A lot of people are very angry that they have been denied to the public as medicines for over 50 years. My own view is that this is the worst censorship of medicine and clinical research in the history of the world. If you really want to use [psychedelics] as medicine, it’s important to have a sound scientific underpinning.”

Professor Nutt and his team have been busy pioneering the use of techniques called ‘brain imaging’ to explore how psychedelics work in the brain. They have achieved three studies with psilocybin and have just completed the world’s first ever brain-imaging study with LSD, and the results are exciting for scientists, doctors and patients alike.

“We’ve [discovered] that these drugs have quite profound effects, for instance, they switch off the part of the brain that causes depression. Now we’re doing a trial using psilocybin to treat depression because we think where conventional treatments fail, psilocybin might work.”

But even though the outcome of these tests has proved quite promising, the stumbling blocks to this research are still present. The biggest and most obvious challenge is that these drugs are illegal. Only a very small handful of hospitals in the UK have permission to hold drugs like cannabis or psilocybin, which means Professor Nutt and his team can spend years of valuable time in getting extra permissions to do their work.

“The depression trial took three years to work through all the different regulations. We spent almost all the money we had just getting the drug and getting through those regulations,” explains Professor Nutt.

When you consider that a normal drug trial might take six months to get going, the research into psychedelics is very costly – at least 10 times that of other trials. And money doesn’t come easily. As the Government doesn’t stand by this line of research, crowdfunding has been one of the options to bring in the cash for this research. But when there’s lives at stake, isn’t it about time the Government turned their heads and tuned in their ears, instead of copping out whenever they catch wind that perhaps these so-called ‘bad drugs’ can actually be useful?

“The world needs to wake up to the potential of drugs like LSD and psilocybin, and also cannabis,” proclaims Professor Nutt. “These drugs have enormous potential. Every day that goes on with these drugs illegal, patients are suffering; patients are committing suicide because they are not getting treated for their depressions or their pain. So, it is a priority for medicine in the world to reverse these laws.”
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:10:21 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/28/why-are-drugs-illegal-google-answer
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: LucaAltieri on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 03:16:33 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 04:32:01 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.

I've just looked into it.

As an adhd sufferer myself I can't understand how whizz would help me in any way at all?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 04:37:37 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 04:50:40 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.

I've just looked into it.

As an adhd sufferer myself I can't understand how whizz would help me in any way at all?

Because it's a different drug.  They're not literally giving speed to kids with ADD. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: LucaAltieri on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 05:23:47 PM
 :lol:

The bit I find most disturbing is that they don't actually know how Adderall works. They have a rough idea but nothing concrete. I guess that's why they refer to it as "practicing" medicine.

I also looked at Modafinil which is supposed to be milder and awesome. My Dr seems open to it but wanted to try me on a standard treatment first. So far, no complaints. I'm getting s*** done.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 06:42:42 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.

God that's a blast from the past. My cousin used to bang on about it when we were about 14. I tried some but never really found it to be anything spectacular.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 06:46:56 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.

I've just looked into it.

As an adhd sufferer myself I can't understand how whizz would help me in any way at all?

Because it's a different drug.  They're not literally giving speed to kids with ADD. :lol:

Ah right. :lol: Sounded like pouring petrol on a fire.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 18 March 2016, 12:41:26 PM
To be fair, they are both amphetamines, right? And Aderall has recreational purposes similar to other amphetamines. Definitely seems counterintuitive, I don't know how it's meant to work.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Friday 18 March 2016, 01:05:20 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.

God that's a blast from the past. My cousin used to bang on about it when we were about 14. I tried some but never really found it to be anything spectacular.
Missed this. :lol: What were 14 year olds doing with grey market brain drugs?! Legit studying/learning purposes?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Friday 18 March 2016, 01:27:10 PM
Adderall is the s***. That is all.
I've been taking 2g daily of piracetam. Takes about a week to kick in but changes everything. Similar results with focus & cognition.

God that's a blast from the past. My cousin used to bang on about it when we were about 14. I tried some but never really found it to be anything spectacular.
Missed this. :lol: What were 14 year olds doing with grey market brain drugs?! Legit studying/learning purposes?

My cousin heard about it online and ordered some because he was having trouble concentrating at school. I don't know how much of it he actually used for learning purposes though and how much was just consumed because it was there. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 12:22:03 PM
:lol:

Animal.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 12:22:07 PM
:lol: as you do.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 02:39:36 PM
I wouldn't mind trying piracetam, can you still get it online?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 02:46:46 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Elliottman on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 06:09:25 PM
Sounds like you're having a great time to be fair.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 06:10:44 PM
How much is a gram over there?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Foluwashola on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 06:17:18 PM
 :lol: Mad b******. Never saw the appeal of getting absolutely blitzed on your tod like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Pixelphish on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 06:18:04 PM
Taxi driver is pure loving it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 09:16:50 PM
f***ing hell :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 09:18:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZCznCaOdBo#t=730
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 10:00:10 PM
Jesus, good effort. :lol:

I wouldn't have thought it possible to get 3g up each nostril without them clogging up!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 10:22:39 PM
Doesn't make a difference as far as I'm concerned. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 10:24:39 PM
Fear and Loathing in Guangzhou
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 10:25:49 PM
Sorry, 6 grams of coke? You ok bro? Or I am just a pussy?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 11:12:44 PM
f***ing hell man, that's a lot of coke. From a massive f***-up like me I'd like to think that means something
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 11:19:25 PM
:lol: Don't know how you're doing this. Totally with ElDiablo here. Also, I love that you have a wife and kids. Hope for the future.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 11:56:30 PM
What did you tell them? Sorry pal ive been up all night sniffing and im far too wired to come in? What time is it anyway, was it a leave a message on the answer machine job?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 11:59:12 PM
What did you tell them? Sorry pal ive been up all night sniffing and im far too wired to come in?

I believe that is the correct protocol.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Thursday 24 March 2016, 12:08:20 AM
Answer machine messages aren't the way to go like. Doesn't matter what you say, all the guy listening to it is hearing is im a tired c*** and I fancied a day off.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 24 March 2016, 12:52:31 PM
:lol: amazing
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Andymc1 on Thursday 24 March 2016, 01:07:02 PM
Last few pages man :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Thursday 24 March 2016, 04:36:52 PM
f***ing hell. I think I'm a naughty c*** getting the occasional one gram in when my lass is away.

Unbelievable work.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 March 2016, 04:41:44 PM
Any drug that will make you enjoy things more???
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Al Moody on Thursday 24 March 2016, 04:42:54 PM
What things would you like to enjoy more?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 March 2016, 04:49:41 PM
I'm hardly enjoying anything in life. So I was wondering if drugs might help. (Bear in mind that I'm a total drug newbie.)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Thursday 24 March 2016, 04:50:32 PM
Almost certainly not, in the long term.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 24 March 2016, 04:50:32 PM
But to answer your question, more sex related enjoyment would be nice.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 24 March 2016, 05:01:23 PM
MDMA and LSD can broaden your horizons.  Also, backed up by the medical establishment. :aww:

Still, don't do for doing's sake.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Thursday 24 March 2016, 05:51:26 PM
and if you're a first timer please have a sitter
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Beren on Thursday 24 March 2016, 06:32:30 PM
I'm hardly enjoying anything in life. So I was wondering if drugs might help. (Bear in mind that I'm a total drug newbie.)

That's a bad starting place tbh.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: tgarve on Friday 25 March 2016, 01:07:39 AM
I would seek help rather than drugs mate
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Friday 25 March 2016, 01:23:25 AM
MDMA and LSD.

Candy flip, cracking idea! 😁
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 25 March 2016, 05:47:10 AM
Jesus. After that I can't post about my Adderall. Someone needs to start a "pussy drugs" thread safe space for the rest of us away from Mark Renton.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 25 March 2016, 05:52:36 AM
I'm hardly enjoying anything in life. So I was wondering if drugs might help. (Bear in mind that I'm a total drug newbie.)

Sounds like Zoloft might be a start.

Failing that, as bluff mentioned, MDMA/ketamine has been shown to effectively treat anhedonia.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 25 March 2016, 09:08:35 PM
Thanks, I will do further research about them. Already heard news that ecstasy might be medically legalised.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 25 March 2016, 10:58:17 PM
Would be seriously careful if you're a bit delicate at the minute like, even ecstasy is good fun at the time but not exactly good for your mental well being afterwards.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Saturday 26 March 2016, 12:04:34 PM
You do drugs to have fun with your mates or add something to a night.
Even I would say don't do it with your mindset....I would try 5THP first and see how you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jntds3XAJ8
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Saturday 26 March 2016, 12:47:09 PM
Would be seriously careful if you're a bit delicate at the minute like, even ecstasy is good fun at the time but not exactly good for your mental well being afterwards.

Absolutely this. Worst possible time to dabble.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr Logic on Saturday 26 March 2016, 01:00:23 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/mar/24/medical-experts-call-for-global-drug-decriminalisation

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An international commission of medical experts is calling for global drug decriminalisation, arguing that current policies lead to violence, deaths and the spread of disease, harming health and human rights.

The commission, set up by the Lancet medical journal and Johns Hopkins University in the United States, finds that tough drugs laws have caused misery, failed to curb drug use, fuelled violent crime and spread the epidemics of HIV and hepatitis C through unsafe injecting.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TheHoob on Saturday 26 March 2016, 02:11:28 PM
Would be seriously careful if you're a bit delicate at the minute like, even ecstasy is good fun at the time but not exactly good for your mental well being afterwards.

Absolutely this. Worst possible time to dabble.

 :thup:

Ecstasy can make me feel pretty down for a good week even if I'm in a good place at the time, could imagine it being a nightmare if you're already in the dumps.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 03:50:07 AM
I'm hardly enjoying anything in life. So I was wondering if drugs might help. (Bear in mind that I'm a total drug newbie.)

This is the worst thing you could ever resort to.

You feel bad/down, yeah a few drinks and a gram of charlie will pick you up and you'll feel good, but the next day you'll just feel worse than you did to begin with.  Then it will get to the stage where you're chasing it and being sober will make you feel bored and potentially depressed so you'll drink and take more gear regularly.  It's one big downward spiral.

If you wanna take drugs, take them when when you're in a good place and feeling well.  It will be a great experience and you won't wake up feeling even worse than you were to begin with if you're already feeling down.

If you wanna feel better about yourself, join a gym.. go swimming, do something productive.  Take it from someone who's been there, don't start a gear habit.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 05:48:39 AM
..what am I on about I'm f***ing wrecked.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 12:20:49 PM
I appreciate your advice. Might give HTP a try.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 12:30:49 PM
Can I suggest going to the doctor rather than just taking whatever Slim recommends?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 01:38:42 PM
I've been there and seen a psychologist. Slight improvement, nothing more.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: TRC on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 01:48:20 PM
There is a depression/anxiety thread on here, that may help more than this thread.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: reefatoon on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 02:00:06 PM
Some good advice in here Dinho lad. While the high's are good, the low's are f***ing awful. Really wouldn't recommend you dabbling while you are feeling like you are.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 02:02:05 PM
Yeah, agree that drugs are a bad idea if you're in a bad state of mind like. Probably more something that extenuates how you're already feeling, rather than transforms how you're feeling in my experience. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 02:05:03 PM
Especially if you're doing it by yourself. Like Messi says try and do something productive, I know that's hard motivation when you feel emotionally dead like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tisd09 on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 02:09:29 PM
I've had a tough 18 months and have done more stuff (mainly coke) in that time that throughout all of my 20's and the come downs are horrendous some worse than others, but like some have said on here if you are feeling like s**** anyway I would give then a wide berth, at times I wish I would have taken my own advice. I had not taken anything since New Years Eve but had some a few weeks ago (i've been in a lot better place lately) and for a few days it brought my right back down.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 03:25:37 PM
Are you in a relationship, Dinho?

:yao:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dinho lad on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 03:26:56 PM
Meh, I'm easily put off. Will give it a miss, then.

Will try HTP as it's a natural supplement, it's a shame I was too chicken to try drugs when I in a normal state of mind!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Open_C on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 08:02:04 PM


it's a shame I was too chicken to try drugs when I in a normal state of mind!

It's really not, tbh :)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Meh, I'm easily put off. Will give it a miss, then.

Will try HTP as it's a natural supplement, it's a shame I was too chicken to try drugs when I in a normal state of mind!

Its not but when your better pop over my house and we will soon sort that out!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 25 July 2016, 05:40:51 PM
The absolute best way to go for festivals and society in general



https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=35684
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 27 August 2016, 08:17:59 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/26/neil-woods-undercover-cop-who-abandoned-the-war-on-drugs

A fascinating read. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Saturday 1 October 2016, 05:08:23 PM
Question about 'when does weed become too much'?'.

I didn't think I was a prude, I'll smoke weed every now and again and I knew my girlfriend did before we got together, but I've found she does it more than I realize and it's become a source of tension. I guess I view it similar to getting p*ssed, cool on a friday night or the odd weekend but not cool when it's just commonplace.

She'll smoke often on a weekday, it doesn't matter what time. Sometimes before work (at a cafe, she doesn't like the job). In the evening again. On the weekends quite often before going out for lunch, maybe again at night. It's not every single day and she can go periods without because she hasn't been able to buy any, but it's pretty typical. I thought I didn't mind weed but I'm growing to resent coming into her flat (which I basically live at) and smelling it lingering from earlier.

She acts like I'm being a prude the one time we argued about it when at lunch time on a saturday I said 'You're not going to smoke now are you?'.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 1 October 2016, 05:12:02 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Saturday 1 October 2016, 07:47:35 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Saturday 1 October 2016, 08:11:51 PM
Agree with Bluf, and would just add that it really effects everyone differently so I'd judge it on that more than just that she smokes a lot. From about 15 until early 20s I was same as her, smoking every day without fail and would spark a joint as soon as come home etc. It was great for a while but I just got older, got a bit bored of that lifestyle and felt it was slowing me down so gradually stopped and now hardly ever. Looking back I would say that for a few years just did it to relieve boredom and can relate to what she says about it making things more interesting. There comes a time when you think that maybe you should try and sort that out rather than just getting stoned to counter it though.

It depends a lot on your state of mind, some people it suits and some it doesn't. I know people that can smoke during the day and they are fine though, can still function perfectly well. Another person I know of smokes in morning at times, is an absolute state and it clearly effects her life in a bad way. These days if I did that I'd be a mess too, makes me paranoid for a start.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Saturday 1 October 2016, 09:37:58 PM
Agree with Bluf, and would just add that it really effects everyone differently so I'd judge it on that more than just that she smokes a lot. From about 15 until early 20s I was same as her, smoking every day without fail and would spark a joint as soon as come home etc. It was great for a while but I just got older, got a bit bored of that lifestyle and felt it was slowing me down so gradually stopped and now hardly ever. Looking back I would say that for a few years just did it to relieve boredom and can relate to what she says about it making things more interesting. There comes a time when you think that maybe you should try and sort that out rather than just getting stoned to counter it though.

It depends a lot on your state of mind, some people it suits and some it doesn't. I know people that can smoke during the day and they are fine though, can still function perfectly well. Another person I know of smokes in morning at times, is an absolute state and it clearly effects her life in a bad way. These days if I did that I'd be a mess too, makes me paranoid for a start.

I used to smoke all the time in my 20's but now there is no way I can handle it now.  But I think she should be able to see your point and have a sensible chat.  If not f*** her off as she is not worth your time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 2 October 2016, 12:11:25 AM
I'd be the same as you like Grant for the most part, I wouldn't really care if she was doing it on a night watching a film or whatever, but during the day it would definitely irritate me.

Fully understand what Bluf's saying, I know a few people like that, but it's pretty hard to wrap your head around it when you're with them all the time and you know they're not fully with you.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 2 October 2016, 12:03:43 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)

See, that's where I always draw the line funnily enough.  I'll never smoke if I'm going to work or something semi-responsible, dealing with public.  That's where my sober self is quite useful.  In saying that, it makes me a better parent at home.  I'll actually play with the kids, get right into it with the toys and stuff. :lol: Instead of sort of just managing them.  Sometimes I'll find myself, laying there playing with the lego or something and they've buggered off to watch the TV for the last half hour. :blush:

I can imagine her digging in though.  From a personal point of view, I get like that when I feel like someone is misunderstanding my desire to smoke.  Usually parents! :laugh:  It isn't like other drugs or drink, it's not a destructive thing for the most part.  I don't care what anyone has to say on that matter (not directed at you or anyone here, by the way).  Unless you're one of the wake & bakers or a teenage smoker.  Never healthy to smoke in the morning, you need to let your brain breathe.  And despite pretty much smoking since I was 16, if I had a choice to go back and do it all again, I'd certainly hold off until I was at least 18 before getting into it like that.  At that age it does hold you back.  Fucksake, I was growing it back then, making money from it. :lol:

That's why I'm completely out in the open about my use, and it's kind of worked out this time as the other half is very accepting as opposed to the ex, who smoked constantly herself until she started cheating then used my smoking and attitude as a reason for that.  c***.  There's no point me pretending it's all great.  A lack of my sobriety might be why I'm too content to have not achieved much in my life, given up on any ambitions and also not be bothered by that.

It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.  My old social circle is exactly like you've described.  Weed has a culture very much to itself.  If anything, I think the fact it's still frowned upon, criminalised and whatever is what drives us to the defensive position and digging in.  I'm sure of that.  I have no answers for you man, ultimately it's things like these that drive people apart.  What's not advertised when you get to know one another, what you learn about each other when you're actually together more and more.  I doubt you'll get her to back down, I've honestly never met a weed smoker that has ever accepted the argument against and I suppose you could include me in that. :lol: As Colin said, it suits some and not others.  I guess it'll boil down to pros and cons and what wins that.  Sorry bud. :thup:

There's definitely a lot of stereotypes that need blown away but that's a wider issue, not related to yourself.  One is this gateway drug pish, which, to be fair, I'd not heard in many many years, until Owen f***ing Smith said it in the leadership election. :lol:   for me it's a closed door drug, helps me battle addiction to real gateway drugs.  What a f***ing plank he was. 

EDIT: Whoa, too many smilies.  This is what happens when you type a post over the course of an hour.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 2 October 2016, 04:19:03 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.
Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.

There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:

My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Sunday 2 October 2016, 06:26:53 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)

See, that's where I always draw the line funnily enough.  I'll never smoke if I'm going to work or something semi-responsible, dealing with public.  That's where my sober self is quite useful.  In saying that, it makes me a better parent at home.  I'll actually play with the kids, get right into it with the toys and stuff. :lol: Instead of sort of just managing them.  Sometimes I'll find myself, laying there playing with the lego or something and they've buggered off to watch the TV for the last half hour. :blush:

I can imagine her digging in though.  From a personal point of view, I get like that when I feel like someone is misunderstanding my desire to smoke.  Usually parents! :laugh:  It isn't like other drugs or drink, it's not a destructive thing for the most part.  I don't care what anyone has to say on that matter (not directed at you or anyone here, by the way).  Unless you're one of the wake & bakers or a teenage smoker.  Never healthy to smoke in the morning, you need to let your brain breathe.  And despite pretty much smoking since I was 16, if I had a choice to go back and do it all again, I'd certainly hold off until I was at least 18 before getting into it like that.  At that age it does hold you back.  Fucksake, I was growing it back then, making money from it. :lol:

That's why I'm completely out in the open about my use, and it's kind of worked out this time as the other half is very accepting as opposed to the ex, who smoked constantly herself until she started cheating then used my smoking and attitude as a reason for that.  c***.  There's no point me pretending it's all great.  A lack of my sobriety might be why I'm too content to have not achieved much in my life, given up on any ambitions and also not be bothered by that.

It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.  My old social circle is exactly like you've described.  Weed has a culture very much to itself.  If anything, I think the fact it's still frowned upon, criminalised and whatever is what drives us to the defensive position and digging in.  I'm sure of that.  I have no answers for you man, ultimately it's things like these that drive people apart.  What's not advertised when you get to know one another, what you learn about each other when you're actually together more and more.  I doubt you'll get her to back down, I've honestly never met a weed smoker that has ever accepted the argument against and I suppose you could include me in that. :lol: As Colin said, it suits some and not others.  I guess it'll boil down to pros and cons and what wins that.  Sorry bud. :thup:

There's definitely a lot of stereotypes that need blown away but that's a wider issue, not related to yourself.  One is this gateway drug pish, which, to be fair, I'd not heard in many many years, until Owen f***ing Smith said it in the leadership election. :lol:   for me it's a closed door drug, helps me battle addiction to real gateway drugs.  What a f***ing plank he was. 

EDIT: Whoa, too many smilies.  This is what happens when you type a post over the course of an hour.

Really thanks, it's good to get another view. She should care about how I feel about it but I also shouldn't impose some kind of unfounded view of what it means to smoke so often, I've never been around it.
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.
Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.

There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:

My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.

I do think it's different. I maybe missed those social circles in the UK and get an exaggerated impression of it, but it just seems much more widespread here. Here in Chicago I just smell it when I'm out and about all the time, way more than in the UK, and my girlfriend considers it hard to get a hold of here compared to LA.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: louistoon on Sunday 2 October 2016, 11:51:27 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)

See, that's where I always draw the line funnily enough.  I'll never smoke if I'm going to work or something semi-responsible, dealing with public.  That's where my sober self is quite useful.  In saying that, it makes me a better parent at home.  I'll actually play with the kids, get right into it with the toys and stuff. :lol: Instead of sort of just managing them.  Sometimes I'll find myself, laying there playing with the lego or something and they've buggered off to watch the TV for the last half hour. :blush:

I can imagine her digging in though.  From a personal point of view, I get like that when I feel like someone is misunderstanding my desire to smoke.  Usually parents! :laugh:  It isn't like other drugs or drink, it's not a destructive thing for the most part.  I don't care what anyone has to say on that matter (not directed at you or anyone here, by the way).  Unless you're one of the wake & bakers or a teenage smoker.  Never healthy to smoke in the morning, you need to let your brain breathe.  And despite pretty much smoking since I was 16, if I had a choice to go back and do it all again, I'd certainly hold off until I was at least 18 before getting into it like that.  At that age it does hold you back.  Fucksake, I was growing it back then, making money from it. :lol:

That's why I'm completely out in the open about my use, and it's kind of worked out this time as the other half is very accepting as opposed to the ex, who smoked constantly herself until she started cheating then used my smoking and attitude as a reason for that.  c***.  There's no point me pretending it's all great.  A lack of my sobriety might be why I'm too content to have not achieved much in my life, given up on any ambitions and also not be bothered by that.

It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.  My old social circle is exactly like you've described.  Weed has a culture very much to itself.  If anything, I think the fact it's still frowned upon, criminalised and whatever is what drives us to the defensive position and digging in.  I'm sure of that.  I have no answers for you man, ultimately it's things like these that drive people apart.  What's not advertised when you get to know one another, what you learn about each other when you're actually together more and more.  I doubt you'll get her to back down, I've honestly never met a weed smoker that has ever accepted the argument against and I suppose you could include me in that. :lol: As Colin said, it suits some and not others.  I guess it'll boil down to pros and cons and what wins that.  Sorry bud. :thup:

There's definitely a lot of stereotypes that need blown away but that's a wider issue, not related to yourself.  One is this gateway drug pish, which, to be fair, I'd not heard in many many years, until Owen f***ing Smith said it in the leadership election. :lol:   for me it's a closed door drug, helps me battle addiction to real gateway drugs.  What a f***ing plank he was. 

EDIT: Whoa, too many smilies.  This is what happens when you type a post over the course of an hour.

Really thanks, it's good to get another view. She should care about how I feel about it but I also shouldn't impose some kind of unfounded view of what it means to smoke so often, I've never been around it.
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.
Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.

There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:

My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.

I do think it's different. I maybe missed those social circles in the UK and get an exaggerated impression of it, but it just seems much more widespread here. Here in Chicago I just smell it when I'm out and about all the time, way more than in the UK, and my girlfriend considers it hard to get a hold of here compared to LA.

Depends where you live you cant really generalise to a whole country. Smelt weed round liverpool all the time when I lived there.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 7 October 2016, 01:16:27 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/mdma-sex-relationships-couples-therapy-can-it-work-a7349836.html

:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Friday 7 October 2016, 07:38:54 PM
Has there not been zillions of MDMA trials over the years? I don't think anyone could argue it doesn't have therapeutic uses. It kept me and my ex together through the late nineties, and we hated each other Monday to Friday.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Friday 7 October 2016, 07:55:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhhi9H8fNdc



Also Joe Rogan with Rick Doblin the founder of maps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prxam5Lp4S4
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 7 October 2016, 08:17:19 PM
:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Friday 7 October 2016, 08:45:27 PM
Always fancied trying it but not at all relaxed about taking a pill when I'm not 100% sure it is what it's supposed to be.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Friday 7 October 2016, 08:58:37 PM
You can get testing kits, also a website called pill report can give you more info about the specific strength of your pill aswell as whether or not there have been any bad ones going around. Tried it myself for the first time a few months ago, and it was.......magnificent. Regret not trying it previousley though as i have said safety is paramount.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Friday 7 October 2016, 09:08:41 PM
Theres also a website 'weidnos' based in the uk where you can send a sample anonymously to have it lab analysed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Friday 7 October 2016, 09:10:37 PM
Wedinos.. Sorry
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 7 October 2016, 09:42:34 PM
I can understand why people don't like someone being stoned a lot, but as someone that is, it's very much a case of self-medication.  I'm generally wired without it, far too driven and erratic.  You can generally tell as I'll be ranting in the politics thread and having goes at people.  I don't like sober me, but it's only when I've pure blasted it that I'm a stereotype stoner.  Most of the time the smoking just slows my brain down a bit so I can actually relax at home instead of acting like I'm on speed. 

My partner doesn't smoke but she's no problem with me doing it cause she sees the difference.  For some people it's an occasion drug, but for others it's a stabilising force.  It can also become a lifestyle thing where you're not so much addicted to the weed, but the relaxation it gives you.  Sorry it's s*** for you.  She might not admit it, but she might have underlying mental health problems that lead her to it.  Antidepressants can be great (I'm on them!) but only take you so far.  The stereo type of weed smokers doesn't help but it really isn't helpful for people that just want a relaxing life that otherwise cannot achieve it.

Thanks Bluf, it's good to get that perspective.

I don't think she's wired without it, and I don't think she'd say she is.  For work, she says it makes her more chilled out being with colleagues and customer's that she finds annoying. In general use she reckons it just makes things more interesting, whether that's tv or walking around downtown. My completely non-expert judgement would be to say for her to use it so habitually that she's not addicted to the weed, but like you say addicted to the effect of it. She doesn't act hardcore stoned when on it, but can be a bit spacey and unfocussed, and since I like her not-stoned, I find it irritating. 

It might be some culture clash. Obviously people smoke in the UK but it sounds like it might be more normal to be like that where she's from. She's from LA, it sounds like all her friends do that, they get stoned, drive around LA, go to the beach on your average tonight. To me, I struggle with the idea of it being an every day thing.

This came about today cos she's going to town with a friend. Yesterday I know they got stoned before they went. Today the three of us were going, but as non-confrontationally as possible, said I'm not if they're going to be stoned (I genuinely don't want to, it's not a power play or anything). She said they might so it's up to me (I didn't go). (On other things I'm sure we'd say "I won't if you don't want me to" but she's clearly digging in on this.)
It's definitely a culture clash, although not sure if it's a US/UK thing.
Might be talking absolute s**** here, but I think they 'grow up' to stuff like this a lot later than we do in the UK.

There's obviously cross-over, but you're typical UK 'stoners' are 14 year old bairns sucking buckets round the back of school. Then going home to one of their mate's radge mother's houses to play FIFA or Call of Duty with a can pipe. Most stop after they've left school or college or whatever where as the odd few who can hack it carry on :lol:

My experience of the US smokers is basically dafties on twitter, but it seems to be early to mid 20s 'smoking dank bowls' driving about town in the sun, like Grant is onabout. It all seems massively out in the open.


:lol: nah. The missus was smoking at school at 16 or some s***. Their schooling basically means their final year of high school is just mass debauchery because they're already accepted at a university.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Greg on Sunday 6 November 2016, 03:30:15 PM
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A teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub

An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 6 November 2016, 03:32:59 PM
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A teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub

An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528

Poor soul.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 6 November 2016, 11:35:45 PM
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A teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub

An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528

Unlucky. Could have been prevented if drugs weren't illegal.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: colinmk on Sunday 6 November 2016, 11:43:51 PM
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A teenager dies after taking drugs at a Newcastle nightclub

An 18-year-old girl has died after taking what police believe were illegal drugs at a Newcastle nightclub.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37888528

Unlucky. Could have been prevented if drugs weren't illegal.

Indeed, it's absolutely mental in this day and age that we aren't much further on with this.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 21 November 2016, 01:08:03 AM

Heartwrenching


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeU2tDRTlMM
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ndegwa on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 12:36:34 AM
I am absolutely dumbfounded and speechless by this Daily Mail article on cannabis. A concerned mum who reckons her daughter's life was ruined by smoking 5 grams of cannabis over a 9 month period. 5 grams. All the key phrases are in there - 'University Graduate', 'Cambridge', 'middle-class'. 2 puffs a day turned her into an anorexic, psychotic, suicidal, schizophrenic mess.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3969696/Anne-Atkins-says-cannabis-shattered-life-Cambridge-graduate-daughter.html

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The figure in the hospital bed was someone we barely recognised. Thin, unkempt and whey-faced, hair chopped off with kitchen scissors, I knew it was my daughter Lara, but something had changed her horribly.
We longed to throw our arms around her and cuddle her, but the antagonism in her eyes held me and my husband back.
This was something entirely new. Over the many, troubled years of our second eldest daughter’s life, my husband Shaun and I had seen many different Laras: the kind little girl who delighted everyone with her cheeky poems and limericks. The talented artist. The quicksilver violinist. The brilliant scholar with an acerbic wit.
And, latterly, the desperately-ill adolescent and young woman, trying to survive a world which often frightened and confused her.
But not this. Never this.

And then she let us have it, subjecting us to the most blistering few minutes of our lives, so painful I can hardly bear to repeat it: ‘I hate you. I’ve always hated you. I’ve hated you since I was 12, and I’ve never wanted you in my life. I don’t want you to speak to me for the next 20 years, to make up for my not having a voice as a child.’
I was shaking for a week after that dreadful morning in November 2013, and carried on crying every day for pretty much the next two years. What had transformed our lovely, 28-year-old, daughter into this bitter, spite-filled stranger?
Lara herself lays the blame unequivocally at the feet of cannabis, though she was never even an average user. She only ever allowed herself a puff or two a day, for medicinal purposes, and has used just 5 grams in total in her life.
But it was enough to make her high every day for nine months, and — tragically — enough to devastate her personality, perceptions, relationships, health and nearly her life.
So, when I hear of the liberal elite, led by Nick Clegg, calling for the legalisation of cannabis because ‘it’s not very harmful’ or ‘everyone’s doing it’, it makes me not just sad, but angry. The U.S. states of Colorado and Washington decriminalised cannabis four years ago. Not surprisingly, use is way up, including by minors — but so too is cannabis-related crime, homelessness, suicide, hospitalisation and alcoholism.
And the black market still thrives.
A cross-party group of MPs has called for an end to the ‘embarrassment’ that is our current drugs policy, and found that legalisation could bring in £1 billion in tax.

Well I don’t care how embarrassing it is, or how much it nets. Cannabis is not the cuddly, harmless puff we pretend it is: it wrecks lives, as it wrecked our daughter Lara’s — incidentally, a very talented Cambridge graduate who could have been filling the country’s tax coffers in a much more wholesome way, but has never yet been able to work.
Nor is it true, as Conservative MP Peter Lilley said, that ‘currently cannabis can only be obtained from illegal gangs who also push hard drugs’.
Lara obtained hers from a family friend, in our pleasant leafy neighbourhood, and it is widely and readily available in that privileged seat of learning, Cambridge University itself.
While I’ve always believed the drug utterly ruins the lives of an unfortunate small minority — as a vicar’s wife in Fulham, West London, I’ve seen, first-hand, lives destroyed by it — Lara herself goes further. She maintains that it damages everyone it touches, even in the tiniest of amounts and for any length of time.
I always knew Lara was the last person who should have dabbled in drugs. Mental illness runs in our family: two of Lara’s cousins, of the same age, have had problems, and the links between schizoprenia, psychosis and cannabis are well-documented.

An imaginative and eccentric child, Lara — whom we call Bink — was always quirky. But soon after she gained a place at the prestigious St Paul’s Girls’ School in London, aged 11, her quirkiness took a worrying turn.
Ostracised by a schoolfriend and desperately lonely, she started to worry about her personal cleanliness. This developed into a problem with obsessive washing. Unknown to us, she’d get up every day at 3 am to wash her clothes then go to school in them wet, so she could be ‘clean’.
At 15, with us growing increasingly concerned about her troubles, she was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder by a psychiatrist friend. At 16, after waiting an agonising year for treatment due to an administrative error, she took a ‘gesture’ overdose in a desperate bid for help.
I knew that’s all it was — she’d called for help as soon as she’d taken the drugs — but suddenly the big guns of the medical profession took notice and said she must be hospitalised.
We had just settled her in hospital when the nurse dropped the bombshell: at 16 she was an ‘adult’, and we, her parents, had no rights. Not to take her home, nor to see her notes; not to visit — and certainly not to veto her treatment.
How often have I berated myself for not going straight back upstairs and telling her to pack her bags!

After that, we could only watch, appalled, as her condition worsened ten-fold: robbed of the intellectual stimulation of school and home, surrounded by patients with acute (and very different) mental illnesses, put in worse-than-useless therapy all day, denied fresh air and exercise and rake-thin within a week.
At least I knew she was as opposed to medication as I was.
But how long can you hold out, aged 16 and as vulnerable as a child, cut off from your family and with all the adults supposedly ‘caring’ for you, bullying you instead? After six weeks, Lara gave in and took the pills.
So began an addiction to anti-depressants which was to propel her, eventually, into the grips of an even more damaging drug: cannabis. Though she was never addicted to cannabis, she holds both responsible for the havoc wreaked in her life.
Over the next few years, with a few intermittent fits and starts, Lara managed to continue with school and gained a place at Cambridge to read English Literature.
But life was a monumental struggle: she was sleeping for 18 to 20 hours a day. Repeatedly, she asked her GP (as did I) why she couldn’t stay awake. It took a fellow undergraduate to tell her it was down to her medication.
So that Easter 2011, she gradually came off the drugs over six weeks. None of us knew how much she was suffering with withdrawal. But in daily agony, on the point of another breakdown and facing the loss of her university place — but determined not to go back on the medication which had done her so much harm — she looked around for something to get her through.
And that something was cannabis.

Of course, she kept it from us. She knew how passionately we were both opposed to it. Cannabis had never been part of our comfortable, middle-class lives, but we knew of the ravages it could wreak from a few unfortunate members of our parish.
To Lara, though, it became a lifeline. Easily susceptible, her tiny puff got her through each day. And, ironically, she says that it worked. It gave her a window in the pain, a few hours of relief. And, yes, despite sometimes clinging on to life by her fingertips, she got a good degree.
But, underneath, her personality was being eroded. Intelligent friends, her therapist and, most shockingly, a psychiatrist, all knew she was using it and didn’t stop her. The psychiatrist even asserted that alcohol would do more damage than cannabis.
What no one told her, however, was that it could also render her irresponsive, sometimes even mute, and incapable of seeing that her family loved her and longed to help.
She was, she says now, tormented and in hell. But the cannabis itself made her incapable of isolating the problem. She knew something was terribly wrong, but not what it was.
Within weeks of her starting to use it, I knew something was desperately amiss. Although she never smoked cannabis in front of me, I became more and more distressed as our previously gentle and kind daughter started to astonish us with some brutally unkind behaviour.
It seems so petty, but little things, tiny acts of selfishness and spite, told me something had robbed us of our lovely girl. One evening, I cooked her favourite curry for her and some friends who longed to meet her, but she didn’t bother to turn up.
She never answered her phone, or apologised — and couldn’t see why she had to.

Back at university, she never rang us and she even started to live elsewhere. Her little sister Rose, now 13 and by far Lara’s biggest fan, couldn’t work out what was going on. Her sister had always had time for her; but now she had become an unreliable ‘fruitcake’.
Nevertheless, Lara looked stunning at her graduation and at her sister Serena’s wedding in the summer of 2013, although she spent the evening outside the marquee in tears.
She then planned to spend a month or two catching up with friends before joining the world of work. It never happened. She drifted, living off benefits, staying with friends, once sleeping rough for a month in a desperate bid to get treatment.
She had long since stopped using cannabis, realising the impact on her mental health, but the damage had been done.
Then came that call, in the dead of night, in November 2013. She’d left a strange note at a friend’s house, possibly suggesting suicide.
The police called us and we dropped everything to go to the hospital — where we were dismissed in a tirade of insults and accusations. All she knew was that she was in terrible pain. For the next two years, Shaun and I hardly saw our daughter, and sometimes we didn’t know whether she was alive or dead.
Most painfully, we had to tell Rose’s boarding school not to put calls through from her adored sister, or let her visit. We just didn’t know her any more. It was more painful than all her previous years of illness put together. Occasionally she would make contact, angry and unrecognisable.
Then one night 18 months ago, at 1.30am, she rang asking for help. Something had broken in her, and she wanted to come home.

She’d been away for so long that for ages she’d felt she couldn’t come back. But she knew her only chance of getting well was to reach out and hope someone was there to catch her.
Of course, we were. I collected her immediately. We had never seen her so ill, frequently unable even to speak: but she was home.
Caring for her over the past year has not been easy, but our lovely daughter is slowly returning, though there is still a long haul before she will be able to fend for herself, let alone seek employment.
Two weeks ago she took her first step to independence, moving to supported accommodation in Cambridge. She speaks of her ‘four-year psychosis’, and is convinced that cannabis was the cause of her dramatic decline. Yes, her mental health problems were already there, but that in itself made her dangerously susceptible to the drug.
Currently, she says, we have the worst of everything: cannabis is both socially acceptable and unregulated. She maintains we need to make it safer and change society’s attitude. Not until cannabis has become as unacceptable as hard drugs will we really be getting to grips with it.
Lara has friends who will never recover from the effects of cannabis, living in hospitals for the rest of their lives. She considers herself extremely lucky to have come back from that place. As a child, Lara dreamed of being a writer — and a mother. But after her terrible experiences, part of her is frightened of passing on the illness she inherited.
Ask her what she’d like to be one day, and she says: ‘Myself.’ There is a team of supportive friends praying for her, all of us believing that one day her dream will come true.

An absolutely staggering article of unverified anecdotes that's likely completely fabricated to boot. Wow.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 08:45:55 AM
It's the Daily Mail, nothing should surprise us anymore, don't waste your time reading that s***, ironically it's probably bad for your health.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jill on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 08:49:57 AM
Even when I prepared myself for the Daily Mail I then saw Femail and immediately stopped reading. :lol: Worst section of a s*** paper.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 09:48:08 AM
Yeah, drugs caused all her issues. Far more likely than taking drugs to escape her issues or for you know, fun.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:18:52 AM
:lol:  Five grams over nine months.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:22:34 AM
What the f***ing hell is that :lol:

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Lara has friends who will never recover from the effects of cannabis, living in hospitals for the rest of their lives. She considers herself extremely lucky to have come back from that place

Seriously, where the f*** they getting their gear :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:26:58 AM
They've blatantly been speed balling and then said it was cannabis to get in less trouble.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:47:18 AM
They've blatantly been speed balling and then said it was cannabis to get in less trouble.  :lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 10:48:51 AM
Still nothing like anecdotal evidence to ensure a drug isn't given at the very least a thoroughly sensible reclassification.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 11:38:04 AM
BRING BACK NATIONAL SERVICE AND BAN YOUNG PEOPLE.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jaqen on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 02:23:55 PM
 :lol: Making 5 grams last 9 months is the only newsworthy part of that story, surely that's got to be some sort of record?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 03:03:43 PM
5 grams. High every day for 9-months :lol:

They haven't really thought this through.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 03:06:39 PM
Apparently I should have sustained permanent drain bamage years ago.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 03:12:04 PM
The comments are surprisingly fine on the whole, but then you read the odd out of touch weirdo

There are a lot of deluded pot smokers out there. Believe anything their dealers and pot puffing friends tell them.

"pot puffing friends" ffs :lol: they're a scream like, it'd be funnier if they weren't running the country.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Ndegwa on Wednesday 30 November 2016, 04:55:49 PM
Still nothing like anecdotal evidence to ensure a drug isn't given at the very least a thoroughly sensible reclassification.

This is my main gripe mate, this kind of propaganda will convince many on 'that' side of the spectrum that cannabis is incredibly harmful and therefore not suitable for decriminlaisation/legalisation.

'But the evidence points to..'
'THERE WAS THIS CAMBRIDGE GRADUATE WHO PLAYED THE VIOLIN WHO HAD HER LIFE RUINED BY CANNABIS AND SPENT WEEKS IN A HOPSITAL FULL OF WEED-INDUCED MENTAL WASTERS'
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 1 December 2016, 08:18:41 AM
:lol: you can probably buy 5g blunts in Amsterdam, legally. Imagine being high for 9 months, what a terrible mistake.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 1 December 2016, 09:54:51 AM
Lara quite clearly hates her parents.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 1 December 2016, 11:37:46 AM
The mother should start a nationwide campaign to ban the stuff.

I look forward to seeing her slowly unravel in front of the cameras.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 4 December 2016, 02:06:48 PM
kid was waking up at 3am, washing her clothes and going to school in them wet yet none of the family ever noticed :lol:

lucky she's not an absolute smackhead tbh
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: U2 on Sunday 4 December 2016, 06:59:09 PM
What the f***ing hell is that :lol:

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Lara has friends who will never recover from the effects of cannabis, living in hospitals for the rest of their lives. She considers herself extremely lucky to have come back from that place

Seriously, where the f*** they getting their gear :lol:

That was a direct quote from the Chris Morris, which was followed by "With more on the story, Ted Maul reports..."
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Klaus on Sunday 4 December 2016, 07:04:04 PM
Alcohol should be criminalised.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 7 December 2016, 08:15:35 PM
Going to see David Nutt talk next month.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Northbourne66 on Monday 27 February 2017, 10:30:12 PM
Glue has no comparison i can think off. The effects are extreme , sometimes you dont know who or what you are!
Ive known vivid hallucinations, alice in wonderland type dreams.
Its not something you can do and have any form of lucid conversation. Its a dangerous thing to do. Gas and petrol i cant comment on but the effects appear similar
Massive craze in the eightys
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Monday 27 February 2017, 10:39:27 PM
Isn't sniffing glue a bit like Russian roulette? All of my knowledge comes from high school informational videos.

I am an incredible light weight with drugs (as with alcohol). One or two draws of a joint has been enough for a whole night of entertainment. More and I start to freak out. I tried M-cat which was rubbish, I chatted s*** a bit and gurned a lot. MDMA made me freak out which was a shame as I really wanted to enjoy the stuff. Other than that not really tried anything else.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 1 March 2017, 01:42:37 PM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/a-new-understanding-film-shows-how-psilocybin-changes-perception-2017-2?r=US&IR=T

Looks interesting.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 4 March 2017, 11:25:08 AM
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/what-weve-learned-from-giving-dolphins-lsd

Not sure how you even come up with the idea to give dolphins LSD, but quite an interesting read.  But, drugs bad.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 11 March 2017, 08:19:32 PM
http://www.thekindland.com/wellness/harvard-study-smoking-weed-improves-brain-functions-2330

 :angel:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Monday 3 April 2017, 06:35:17 PM
John Oliver on marijuana legalization: 'This is genuinely worth worrying about'

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/apr/03/john-oliver-marijuana-legalization?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 3 April 2017, 07:13:21 PM
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Oliver then played a recording of Nixon talking about how he thought there was a Jewish conspiracy to legalize the drug in the 70s. The Controlled Substances Act in 1970, which is still in effect and means marijuana is classed as a schedule one drug, the highest possible classification, alongside heroin.

All the motivations laid bare in a couple lines.  Racially motivated and no understanding of the drug at all.  Only thing missing is the cultural impact.  Certainly 60 and 70s America did not want any sort of endorsement or prolonging of the hippy culture that held them to account or otherwise didn't believe in their politics. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Foluwashola on Tuesday 4 April 2017, 08:34:41 PM
http://www.thekindland.com/wellness/harvard-study-smoking-weed-improves-brain-functions-2330

 :angel:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3520257/The-cannabis-smoke-likely-loser-finds-international-study.html
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 07:37:27 PM
I received something called Ferimon hemp tea in the post. I didn't order it and have no idea where it came from, but it definitely smells like green. :lol: What is it? How do I use it effectively?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 07:39:18 PM
:lol: so it just arrived? Madness.

You would imagine you'd strain it in hot water with it being tea, aye?

Or just smerk it
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 07:41:19 PM
http://www.thekindland.com/wellness/harvard-study-smoking-weed-improves-brain-functions-2330

 :angel:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3520257/The-cannabis-smoke-likely-loser-finds-international-study.html

Quite a way to spin it. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 08:07:39 PM
:lol: so it just arrived? Madness.

You would imagine you'd strain it in hot water with it being tea, aye?

Or just smerk it

Aye. :lol: New house too so about two people know my address and it wasn't them.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 08:37:09 PM
Once bought some weed online that didn't turn up.  Messaged the guy and he sent it again (which I got a couple of days later) then a couple of weeks later the original weed turned up.  :lol:  Then over the next month I got another bag of weed, as well as some hash in the post.  Must have been about £200 worth of cannabis I got for free there.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 5 April 2017, 08:38:59 PM
Never had the bottle to do that like. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Sunday 9 April 2017, 07:26:52 PM
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/spice-nightmare-manchester-city-centre-12870520

Becoming more and more an issue in town n all I've noticed n all. Poor folk.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Open_C on Sunday 9 April 2017, 07:44:49 PM
Been the scourge of prisons for a couple of years now. I literally cannot comprehend people seeing folk in that state and thinking 'got to get me some of that'
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Sunday 9 April 2017, 07:58:29 PM
Aye, can imagine. Watched a couple of programmes on it and despite it going from being legal to illegal in my, limited, experience it seems to be getting worse. Whether it's just because I spend a lot of time in the city though...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 9 April 2017, 08:30:32 PM
Isn't it about escapism though, OC?  Nobody takes heroin because they see someone loving it so much, but because they don't want to feel anymore.

Some radical ideas are needed to sort out the homelessness.  We've had two deaths in the last 2 weeks, it's f***ing shameful.  Don't care what they're taking, to be quite honest with you.  I'd take everything I could if I was on the streets.  f*** living through that.

Another shining example of the illegalisation of a drug doing exactly nothing to stop the problems created by said drug.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 9 April 2017, 08:33:01 PM
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/spice-nightmare-manchester-city-centre-12870520

Becoming more and more an issue in town n all I've noticed n all. Poor folk.

Yeah, I've noticed it as well. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Open_C on Sunday 9 April 2017, 08:57:13 PM
I don't know bluf, having worked in that sort of environment for 20 years that's always my assumption (although i can certainly confirm that in my experience at least some people do indeed take heroin, at least to begin with, because they see other people enjoying it) but i just don't see that many links between the traditional drugs of choice and this one :dontknow: it's so much more desperate and grim and unpredictable and the pure number of people who end up in a seriously bad way after taking it would, I assumed, be enough for people to think, "maybe not this one, no"
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:26:12 PM
Those incarcerated of course being bastions of sensible decision making.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Open_C on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:29:59 PM

Granted but I've never seen anything like it before; and it's more that it now seems to be doing the same on the streets which really surprises me
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:32:10 PM
Not too dissimilar to M-kat when that came along. Not seen many doing Spice round this way. You'd have to think the prevelance in prisons is linked to there being not too much to do on offer in prisons.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 9 April 2017, 09:34:32 PM
I don't know bluf, having worked in that sort of environment for 20 years that's always my assumption (although i can certainly confirm that in my experience at least some people do indeed take heroin, at least to begin with, because they see other people enjoying it) but i just don't see that many links between the traditional drugs of choice and this one :dontknow: it's so much more desperate and grim and unpredictable and the pure number of people who end up in a seriously bad way after taking it would, I assumed, be enough for people to think, "maybe not this one, no"

Fair enough. :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Monday 10 April 2017, 05:52:00 AM
Not too dissimilar to M-kat when that came along. Not seen many doing Spice round this way. You'd have to think the prevelance in prisons is linked to there being not too much to do on offer in prisons.

Nothing like that. Mkat is and still is used as a 'party drug'. You didnt have people in that state in a city centre off Mkat.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 10 April 2017, 10:03:33 AM
Well I've seen enough to say otherwise.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Monday 10 April 2017, 10:05:03 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39516345
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 10 April 2017, 10:44:54 PM
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Psychedelics are very powerful drugs and Dylan admitted accidentally tripping at work when he took too big a microdose.

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 09:39:05 AM
I did an experiment bac in 1996 where I took one microdot every day for 1 month. It was the best times.

The first few days were trippy as hell, but after about 4 days it levelled off and all the clichés started to come true.

There were no crazy visions or anything just a feeling of synchronicity with my entire environment.

I do it again tomorrow if I knew how to get some.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 09:44:12 AM
I wonder if you can still have a tenth of a bad trip and what that might entail.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 10:07:38 AM
Definitely intrigued by this.   Can get tabs an all. 

Going to job interviews, accidentally tripping. :laugh:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 03:55:44 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/spice-legal-highs-zombie-plague-walking-zombies-manchester-legal-highs-ban-psychoactive-substances-a7678931.html

Nutt on the ball, again.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jaqen on Wednesday 12 April 2017, 04:34:46 PM
I did an experiment bac in 1996 where I took one microdot every day for 1 month. It was the best times.

The first few days were trippy as hell, but after about 4 days it levelled off and all the clichés started to come true.

There were no crazy visions or anything just a feeling of synchronicity with my entire environment.

I do it again tomorrow if I knew how to get some.

Pushing Taboo ships from Europe and delivers in a few days usually :)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 13 April 2017, 09:36:40 AM
I received something called Ferimon hemp tea in the post. I didn't order it and have no idea where it came from, but it definitely smells like green. :lol: What is it? How do I use it effectively?

Turns out this was for an elderly guy across the street. He has terminal cancer and has been using this to help him. Was told he had three months to live in August and is still going strong and feels as good as he has done in years. You could tell the guy just wanted some company too. Sat with him for an hour talking about different remedies and his career in the airforce. Lovely man. Hope he pulls through somehow.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 09:49:44 AM
I received something called Ferimon hemp tea in the post. I didn't order it and have no idea where it came from, but it definitely smells like green. :lol: What is it? How do I use it effectively?

Turns out this was for an elderly guy across the street. He has terminal cancer and has been using this to help him. Was told he had three months to live in August and is still going strong and feels as good as he has done in years. You could tell the guy just wanted some company too. Sat with him for an hour talking about different remedies and his career in the airforce. Lovely man. Hope he pulls through somehow.

That's a nice story.

Especially since I thought you were going to say you smoked his medicine and he died.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:00:26 AM
Sounds f***ing grim. :lol:

But top marks to you, we ignore the elderly too much.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:07:05 AM
Sounds f***ing grim. :lol:

But top marks to you, we ignore the elderly too much.

I know what you're saying. I feel the same, confronted with an opportunity to share some time with the elderly, I'd rather mince my eyeballs.

But this little vignette has fondly reminded me of some of the great oldies I have met in my time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:12:30 AM
:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:19:19 AM
I feel for the youth of today, mind. Because I can't think what fascinating stories my generation will have to share.

"Eeeh, Kanye. Now there was a character."
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:35:14 AM
Although, their stories are often of a horrific world war :undecided:

Nah, most don't actually talk about the war, in my experience. What they give is an insight into how life carries on even in the face of such atrocities.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:38:32 AM
I feel for the youth of today, mind. Because I can't think what fascinating stories my generation will have to share.

"Eeeh, Kanye. Now there was a character."
2016 has enough stories on its own. Absolutely loads has happened. The big ones are probably our generation being both pre and post internet, 9/11, The global financial crisis, Trump, Brexit They're pretty much our Telephone, Pearl Harbor/The Blitz, The Great Depression, and Reagan (?) right there. Imo we're also likely to be a generation that had a form of prohibition as well.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 13 April 2017, 10:41:30 AM
I'm really tired like, but having a bit of difficulty following that post. :blush: :lol:

I also almost bought way too much stuff in the shops having only taken a tenner out with me.  I just walked out and left it at the self-checkout cause I couldn't be arsed.  My bacon rolls were a delight though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Tuesday 25 April 2017, 09:37:02 PM
Holy f***. I've just read that we've started having OD deaths from carfentanil-laced heroin around here. I hadn't heard of it before. Apparently its potency is 10,000 times that of morphine and 5,000 times heroin, and it was intended for use as a tranquilizer for elephants and hippos.  :scared:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Tuesday 25 April 2017, 09:39:30 PM
There's a documentary on it here.

http://interactive.fusion.net/death-by-fentanyl/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: B-more Mag on Tuesday 25 April 2017, 09:43:00 PM
:thup: Thanks. I 'll check it out.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 May 2017, 05:08:39 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/undercover-cop-heroin-addict-drugs-decriminalised-why-neil-woods-brighton-derbyshire-a7730011.html

When will the pennies drop.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 14 May 2017, 01:49:06 PM
http://drugabuse.com/featured/drug-and-alcohol-abuse-across-generations/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Monday 22 May 2017, 06:09:22 PM
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/music-festivals-poised-allow-revellers-061644766.html
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 06:10:26 PM
Saw that, it's a good move.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 07:17:33 PM
This accurate ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiNwrY-dSA
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 07:19:42 PM
This accurate ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiNwrY-dSA

It's not a bad effort, but no.  Like it says at the beginning, literally impossible to replicate a trip as they're different for everyone and each time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 22 May 2017, 07:55:18 PM
I totally got that kaleidoscope s*** last time I did shrooms, had to lie down in my tent in the foetal position for a few hours til it wore off
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:01:11 PM
:lol:

It's horrible when it gets too heavy.  Definitely had that experience too, like I say, no bad effort.  It just seems too generalised though, but admittedly I didn't watch the whole thing.  I mean, there's actual hallucinations that can go on, not just colours blending and swaying. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:02:43 PM
I totally got that kaleidoscope s*** last time I did shrooms, had to lie down in my tent in the foetal position for a few hours til it wore off

I wonder if looking into a kaleidoscope would've altered your state back to normal, enabling you to continue to strut your stuff on the grassy rave hill.

hmmmmm food for thought.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:08:26 PM
:lol:

It's horrible when it gets too heavy.  Definitely had that experience too, like I say, no bad effort.  It just seems too generalised though, but admittedly I didn't watch the whole thing.  I mean, there's actual hallucinations that can go on, not just colours blending and swaying. 
had ones where it's like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foxD6ZQlnlU

then I sit up and realize the pattern of the fractal I 'fell down' was just the fibers of the rug and I've been laying face down and bug-eyed for 15 minutes in complete silence staring at the floor
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:09:16 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:10:39 PM
The first 2 minutes is nothing like what I've experienced, but it gets a bit closer with the visuals and sounds later on. It's been years since I had shrooms, but in my experience shrooms aren't really about the visuals anyway, certainly not compared to acid where you reach a triumphant state of clarity and you can concentrate on the beautiful visuals. For me I've always spent most of my limited time on shrooms trying to escape my consciousness, the visuals, the sounds, everything, because it was f***ing awful, even the mild ones. :lol:

EDITL The shrooms vid, not thomas's.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:18:57 PM
:lol:

It's horrible when it gets too heavy.  Definitely had that experience too, like I say, no bad effort.  It just seems too generalised though, but admittedly I didn't watch the whole thing.  I mean, there's actual hallucinations that can go on, not just colours blending and swaying. 
had ones where it's like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foxD6ZQlnlU

then I sit up and realize the pattern of the fractal I 'fell down' was just the fibers of the rug and I've been laying face down and bug-eyed for 15 minutes in complete silence staring at the floor

That's splendid. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:20:39 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.


Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:24:18 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.


Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.

So long as you have someone with you you'll be absolutely fine, like. All the cliche's that you hear about it are completely true, like. It's totally life-changing in terms of your outlook.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:25:40 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.


Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.

Don't do it in a graveyard.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:34:15 PM
:lol:

Think i''ll probably work up to acid with shrooms first. Had magic truffles in amsterdam (very low dose) though i'm not quite sure how much of the effects were down to truffles or the MDMA turning in to MDA, which i'd also had that night.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:34:37 PM
Might have mentioned it before, but one of the lads my mate went to Leeds festival with had DMT and was shouting at people walking towards one of the stages to 'turn back... tha killing us' as he thought they were being marched into a concentration camp :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:35:24 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.


Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.

So long as you have someone with you you'll be absolutely fine, like. All the cliche's that you hear about it are completely true, like. It's totally life-changing in terms of your outlook.

100% this. I've done it twice and I absolutely loved it. Couldn't stop laughing on one of the experiences.

Perfect relaxed setting with mates and good music. It lasts a few while though.

Setting and friends is key like. Wouldn't want to be on Acid roaming hectic streets solo like  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:37:30 PM
f*** :lol: takes some balls to take that thing. Love listening to Joe Rogan talking about it, DMT that is.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:37:34 PM
not the greatest sales pitch for acid, i know, but it really is loads of fun, everyone should try it.


Really tempted to try acid but I'm absolutely terrified of what a bad trip would be like.

So long as you have someone with you you'll be absolutely fine, like. All the cliche's that you hear about it are completely true, like. It's totally life-changing in terms of your outlook.

:smitten:

I'm always wary of suggesting to take something, but what I can say is, I too had these fears.  To the extent I was vehemently anti-drugs at one point, making up stories about people I knew having terrible effects.  Remarkably, to a group of friends I'd hung out with since I was 10 years old and knew I was talking pure utter s****.  Just more myths added to the layers.  But can't argue at all with what you've said, it's absolutely mind-altering in terms of perception and empathy.  It's not for everyone, but in terms of hallucinogens, as long as you've got your good people around you, you're fine. It's generally not like taking an unknown pill, passed through dealer to dealer, with cutting and bullshit.  This is the central reason we need drugs legalised and regulated.  People ARE going to take them so wouldn't you prefer they were safe?  That doesn't mean ALL drugs (although that is my personal argument), but weed and hallucinogens (including MDMA), definitely. 

Bad trips come from bad vibes around you, an anxiety that snowballs out of control.  I've had some really bad times, it happens to the best of us, and funnily enough my first 'trip' was a disaster.  Spent the night in a corner, sitting in a chair, wary to leave because I didn't know some of the people waltzing around the house.  Second time was pure: 

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26ufdipQqU2lhNA4g/giphy.gif)

Utterly literally.  I'd never realised how held back, repressed I was.  It was this that led me to abandon many of my rightwing leanings (I was a bit of a Brit' Nationalist for a time).  Remember listening to Aphex Twin, and my head bobbing about thinking it was in a pinball machine.  Leaving the room, looking into the hall and it seemed about ten miles long.  I miss that specific experience so much. :(

I did go on to do too much though and some more bad experiences involving sellotaping knives to my wall so I didn't do something naughty.  Taking it sparingly now and it's a constant pleasure. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Monday 22 May 2017, 08:51:57 PM
Might have mentioned it before, but one of the lads my mate went to Leeds festival with had DMT and was shouting at people walking towards one of the stages to 'turn back... tha killing us' as he thought they were being marched into a concentration camp
Proper thick as f*** doing something as powerful as DMT in that environment like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 22 May 2017, 09:27:23 PM
I never tried DMT like. My mate said it was amazing though, something along the lines of 'reality is your plaything' was his description of it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 22 May 2017, 09:35:34 PM
:love:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 24 May 2017, 08:57:08 PM
Study finds mushrooms are the safest recreational drug

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/23/study-hallucinogenic-mushrooms-safest-recreational-drug-lsd?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: louistoon on Thursday 25 May 2017, 04:43:43 PM
This accurate ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiNwrY-dSA

It's not a bad effort, but no.  Like it says at the beginning, literally impossible to replicate a trip as they're different for everyone and each time.

I'd say its pretty accurate. Obvs each trip is different but if I were to amalgamate all of my trips into a 5 minute video then I'd say thats pretty much it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 May 2017, 02:33:36 PM
They grow every October for a few weeks before the frost sets in just about anywhere like.  Easily pick 300-400 every time, it's a beautiful thing.  When you're out on the farms and fields just outside Glasgow, the farmers or what have you are generally more than happy for you to do it as well.  Even managed to find some in Glasgow Green last year when walking the dog. :kasper:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:04:33 PM
They used to grow on the town moor, not sure if they do anymore mind.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:09:47 PM
They really should do like, no way Glasgow can be unique in this.  I don't understand the biology (if that's the right term to use, probably not :lol:) behind their growth, but believe it's something to do with the base they grow on.  So if they grew once, they'll grow again in the same place unless it's all uplifted or destroyed.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:33:28 PM
How do you know you're picking the right ones? You not terrified of dying a slow and agonising death ?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Friday 26 May 2017, 03:57:31 PM
They really should do like, no way Glasgow can be unique in this.  I don't understand the biology (if that's the right term to use, probably not :lol:) behind their growth, but believe it's something to do with the base they grow on.  So if they grew once, they'll grow again in the same place unless it's all uplifted or destroyed.

Mushrooms are just the fruit of the fungus.  The rest of the organism is underground.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 26 May 2017, 06:10:02 PM
That's what I said, isn't it?

They're pretty distinctive. Once you know what you're getting, can't go wrong.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HTT on Sunday 28 May 2017, 08:25:01 PM
Currently wrecked off half a green snowt, first time in 20 years and never had a tab in 8 years. Wtf am I doing, daft c***. So relaxed tho so oh yeah!
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 28 May 2017, 08:48:22 PM
:lol: enjoy
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HTT on Monday 29 May 2017, 07:34:16 PM
Never again, glad I'm over that s***. It was good don't get me wrong, nice and relaxed, but again I couldn't live that life again. So much stronger than 20 years ago it seems.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 29 May 2017, 08:50:02 PM
HTT last night:

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/ac843f0a5cf5afcd9b6654e006ee9561/tumblr_inline_ooiyykYOvE1uhanrr_500.gif)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HTT on Monday 29 May 2017, 08:59:15 PM
Took me over an hour to recover like, was well spaced. Felt good. Im glad I'm not into that s*** these days though. Was out for a few pints locally the other night and one of the lads had a bit green so I got him to roll me a joint.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Tuesday 30 May 2017, 12:04:37 AM
An hour to recover from a few drags on a jigga? Sounds like you need to build up your tolerance.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 30 May 2017, 06:03:00 PM
An hour to recover from a few drags on a jigga? Sounds like you need to build up your tolerance.

Was a canny sized joint ha ha and to be fair, I've never smoked the s*** in 20 years or so and haven't had a tab in 8 years or so. I was coughing my guts up yesterday like and I'm so glad I'm off that kind of stuff. Was funny though, got the giggles and munchies and felt canny mellow, but over thought which I do anyway and ended up with my head battered.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 02:18:34 PM
The dominoes continue to fall.  First HTT, then France:

http://www.talkingdrugs.org/france-stop-prosecuting-cannabis-possession
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 02:23:29 PM
The dominoes continue to fall.  First HTT, then France:

http://www.talkingdrugs.org/france-stop-prosecuting-cannabis-possession




Corbyn next with a late manifesto pledge, please.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 06:23:20 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-silkroad-idUSKBN18R23A
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 31 May 2017, 06:31:22 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-silkroad-idUSKBN18R23A

Without those murders... :whistle:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: newsted on Thursday 15 June 2017, 08:52:02 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08n3wnk

Drugs in warfare. Soljaz been off their tits forever.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Thursday 15 June 2017, 09:24:31 PM
When I saw David Nutt he talked about how important drugs were in WW2.  Both sides gave their soldiers amphetamines, but while we were all on speed, the Nazis were off their tits on crystal meth.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 6 July 2017, 06:42:51 PM

Nice to see some out of the box thinking. :icon_salut:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Thursday 6 July 2017, 07:31:09 PM
:lol:  It's hard to focus on your pint when you're chewing your jaw off.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 6 July 2017, 07:41:29 PM
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 6 July 2017, 08:18:45 PM
f***ing now they start doing this, f*** off
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 6 July 2017, 08:26:15 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 6 July 2017, 08:49:16 PM
That's one way of doing it.

My alcoholic mate used to go canny hard on mdma and other class As as a sort of self-prescribed thing. The only thing it really did was expertly conceal his alcoholism from everyone. It was years before it dawned on anyone that he was an alcoholic because the natural concern when there was any was with his intake of class As.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Friday 7 July 2017, 01:59:10 PM
If I take MDMA after about and hour I have no interest in beer.  It just tastes s*** and actually prefer water.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 9 July 2017, 04:58:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=856TBCokG3U
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Friday 14 July 2017, 08:28:29 AM
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/bjxy4q/the-highs-and-lows-of-the-governments-new-drug-strategy
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 14 July 2017, 06:15:36 PM
Just when you think you're getting somewhere:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/money/how-smoking-weed-can-you-10796231

They start evicting you for smoking cannabis. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Monday 24 July 2017, 10:47:10 PM
For anyone who may be interested, didn't even know bay was down.


Hansa, one of the biggest black markets of the darkweb, has been in the hands of the Dutch police for a month now. It's a mega attack for the police, which starts a search for buyers and sellers on the site.

At the same time, the FBI announces that Alphabay, the largest black market of the darkweb, has been rolled up. This website, including drugs and weapons, has not been available since 6 July.

Together with the FBI, the Dutch police have taken action: by keeping Hansa in the air last month, many Alphabay users flew to Hansa. In this way, the police wanted to gather as much information as possible about buyers and sellers.

'People need to worry'

At Hansa, the police switched off the encryption that users initially thought were safe to communicate with each other. They exchanged addresses, for example, to send drugs.

"A lot of people can take care of the coming time," said Martijn Egberts, prosecutor. He emphasizes that both buyers and sellers will be addressed, but will focus on people behind orders of, for example, 'more than 90 pills'.

By a security company's tip, the police found the location of Hansa's server, which eventually turned out to be in Lithuania. The server has been seized. It also seized 1000 bit coins with a value of 2 million euros.

Arrests

There have now been four drug dealers in the Netherlands and in the near future, the police are trying to identify more buyers and sellers. "A wealth of information obtained will be further investigated in the coming period," said the spokesman.

Over 50,000 orders have been made at Hansa last month, especially for soft and hard drugs. The police emphasize that it has not sold drugs itself, but only offered the platform. This was done to collect as much information from buyers and sellers as possible. 


Source:  rtlz.nl
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 03:06:19 PM
Anybody watched these yet?

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/18/the-history-channel-is-finally-telling-the-stunning-secret-story-of-the-war-on-drugs/

I've been recording them and got round to watching the first three in the last couple of days. Really excellent stuff that I'd highly recommend.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 03:08:34 PM
I'll get on that.  :thup:

Read more promising stuff about Ketamine and depression today.  Wish they'd get a move on. :whistle:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jaqen on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 08:25:13 PM
For anyone who may be interested, didn't even know bay was down.


Hansa, one of the biggest black markets of the darkweb, has been in the hands of the Dutch police for a month now. It's a mega attack for the police, which starts a search for buyers and sellers on the site.

At the same time, the FBI announces that Alphabay, the largest black market of the darkweb, has been rolled up. This website, including drugs and weapons, has not been available since 6 July.

Together with the FBI, the Dutch police have taken action: by keeping Hansa in the air last month, many Alphabay users flew to Hansa. In this way, the police wanted to gather as much information as possible about buyers and sellers.

'People need to worry'

At Hansa, the police switched off the encryption that users initially thought were safe to communicate with each other. They exchanged addresses, for example, to send drugs.

"A lot of people can take care of the coming time," said Martijn Egberts, prosecutor. He emphasizes that both buyers and sellers will be addressed, but will focus on people behind orders of, for example, 'more than 90 pills'.

By a security company's tip, the police found the location of Hansa's server, which eventually turned out to be in Lithuania. The server has been seized. It also seized 1000 bit coins with a value of 2 million euros.

Arrests

There have now been four drug dealers in the Netherlands and in the near future, the police are trying to identify more buyers and sellers. "A wealth of information obtained will be further investigated in the coming period," said the spokesman.

Over 50,000 orders have been made at Hansa last month, especially for soft and hard drugs. The police emphasize that it has not sold drugs itself, but only offered the platform. This was done to collect as much information from buyers and sellers as possible.


Source:  rtlz.nl

To add to this, several dream vendors have listed the PGP key of the Dutch National Police on their profile on Dream market.

Seems like they've probably managed to infiltrate a number of markets through their work on Hansa. Seems a bit daft to blatantly list their own PGP key for the compromised vendors but I guess it will cause enough panic and suspicion to put off a lot of buyers regardless. Apparently they've used beacon images in xlsx files which a number of the biggest vendors opened without completely protecting themselves and exposed their IP address. Going to be some serious years getting dished out :lol:



Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 11:13:58 PM
For anyone who may be interested, didn't even know bay was down.


Hansa, one of the biggest black markets of the darkweb, has been in the hands of the Dutch police for a month now. It's a mega attack for the police, which starts a search for buyers and sellers on the site.

At the same time, the FBI announces that Alphabay, the largest black market of the darkweb, has been rolled up. This website, including drugs and weapons, has not been available since 6 July.

Together with the FBI, the Dutch police have taken action: by keeping Hansa in the air last month, many Alphabay users flew to Hansa. In this way, the police wanted to gather as much information as possible about buyers and sellers.

'People need to worry'

At Hansa, the police switched off the encryption that users initially thought were safe to communicate with each other. They exchanged addresses, for example, to send drugs.

"A lot of people can take care of the coming time," said Martijn Egberts, prosecutor. He emphasizes that both buyers and sellers will be addressed, but will focus on people behind orders of, for example, 'more than 90 pills'.

By a security company's tip, the police found the location of Hansa's server, which eventually turned out to be in Lithuania. The server has been seized. It also seized 1000 bit coins with a value of 2 million euros.

Arrests

There have now been four drug dealers in the Netherlands and in the near future, the police are trying to identify more buyers and sellers. "A wealth of information obtained will be further investigated in the coming period," said the spokesman.

Over 50,000 orders have been made at Hansa last month, especially for soft and hard drugs. The police emphasize that it has not sold drugs itself, but only offered the platform. This was done to collect as much information from buyers and sellers as possible.


Source:  rtlz.nl

To add to this, several dream vendors have listed the PGP key of the Dutch National Police on their profile on Dream market.

Seems like they've probably managed to infiltrate a number of markets through their work on Hansa. Seems a bit daft to blatantly list their own PGP key for the compromised vendors but I guess it will cause enough panic and suspicion to put off a lot of buyers regardless. Apparently they've used beacon images in xlsx files which a number of the biggest vendors opened without completely protecting themselves and exposed their IP address. Going to be some serious years getting dished out :lol:

There's going to be quite a few nervous people now :lol:

More on aplhabay closure here

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/07/20/dark-web-drugs-to-suicide-accused-alexandre-cazes/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwi-kY2M-6fVAhUKDMAKHb4xAxMQFghHMA0&usg=AFQjCNHv35UhwYrpCB6LCzf3cxN7dIufgQ&ampcf=1

Guy was apparently worth $26 million, but 'hung himself' in a Thai jail a few days after arrest...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 01:49:28 PM
May be about to do shrooms. what effects will I get from 1g and what effects will I get from 2g ? and how long will it last ?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 30 July 2017, 03:33:23 PM
Shrooms usually last about 4-6 hours, feels like much more though.  Depends how many you take, I've never taken them in gram measurements, just actual mushroom quantity.  Either way, more will be more intense, if it's a first time there's nothing wrong with doing the lesser amount. 

In contrast, LSD usually lasts anywhere between 7-14 hours, more if you can't sleep.  Which is a nightmare if you're not enjoying yourself...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:27:09 PM
So i'm back. Didn't really enjoy myself, possibly the worst experience of my life actually. Still trying to make sense of it all. For a while I really wasn't sure where I began and everything else ended. Didn't learn too much about myself which I was disappointed with. Though there's not much difference between reality and imagination.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:31:01 PM
Shrooms are weird like, the last time I did them wasn't great as I had to lie in a tent taking in the annoying kaleidoscopes but had some good times too.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:32:12 PM
Good times ? Really ? I find it hard to imagine what a good trip would be like.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:34:29 PM
Good times ? Really ? I find it hard to imagine what a good trip would be like.

Spending four hours looking at the picture below and dying of laughter for no good reason.

(https://pics.me.me/look-at-goofys-fuckin-stance-8-13-pm-hes-gonna-hyuck-22855843.png)
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 30 July 2017, 10:36:43 PM
:lol: how much was that on ?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 31 July 2017, 04:17:41 AM
So i'm back. Didn't really enjoy myself, possibly the worst experience of my life actually. Still trying to make sense of it all. For a while I really wasn't sure where I began and everything else ended. Didn't learn too much about myself which I was disappointed with. Though there's not much difference between reality and imagination.

made me think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGf2loLAwVE
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 July 2017, 02:15:26 PM
I nearly posted saying that I really don't like shrooms, had a really bad time on them in Amsterdam - throwing up, my sick turning into insects, God (actually just a white dressing gown) and the devil (actually just nothing) behind me in the mirror, horizontal surfaces jerking up and down, etc -  and found them really heady. Decided against saying anything because I didn't want it to feed into any doubts that you had and influence you having a bad time. But now that you've had a bad time, aye, I don't like mushrooms at all either. :lol: I found acid much more like the experience that you've described there.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 31 July 2017, 02:34:22 PM
Kinda wish you said something now :lol:. Nevermind. Tbh I can't imagine Amsterdam is a good place to do them. Being somewhere unfamiliar and uncomfortable would have made the trip even worse. My friend still hasn't fully recovered. He had two panick attacks last night, and I have a headache. Thankfully we only had 1g, what I want to know is, who are these f***ing lunatics going round and having 5g plus? Mad c***s.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 31 July 2017, 02:38:31 PM
I dunno about other people, but if I go into it with anybody elses's bad experiences in the back of my mind, it's almost a certainty that I'll have a bad time too, so it was probably still best not to say.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 31 July 2017, 04:04:42 PM
 Actually that's a good point mate.


Starting to worry about my friend, he hasn't really recovered since yesterday and has just gone home early from work

 :undecided:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 12 October 2017, 08:48:17 AM
https://www.marijuana.com/news/2017/10/uk-bill-legalizing-medical-cannabis-passes-first-reading-unopposed/?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 12:22:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTywVPTt79k
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Sunday 29 October 2017, 01:36:57 AM
You would think Newcastle was Columbia when you go out now.. been in working mens clubs and seen cues for the cubicles. Even worse in the town when you get people who couldnt f*** off full of charlie.

I had a lot of great times taking all sorts with my mates years ago.. but towards the end it was s***. Maybe thats just where my life was in general. Drugs definitely opened my mind.. but as father of 2 kids I wouldnt speak about my past to my kids and I certainly wouldnt allow it in any form.

Would I do it again? Probably.



For the record though.. If you have problems it will only make them worse. Maybes mask them for a while.. but they will always come back further down the line. Lost a lot of good friends a long the way.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 October 2017, 11:55:16 AM
That video was decent in terms of who he spoke to, but he seemed a bit too keen to push the really blinkered cannabis being a gateway drug nonsense. That woman saying she'd rather her kids took heroin than smoked skunk as well, obviously insanely influenced by the work that she solely concentrates on.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Monday 30 October 2017, 10:18:34 AM
That video was decent in terms of who he spoke to, but he seemed a bit too keen to push the really blinkered cannabis being a gateway drug nonsense. That woman saying she'd rather her kids took heroin than smoked skunk as well, obviously insanely influenced by the work that she solely concentrates on.

Something seriously wrong if a parent would rather see their kid smacked off their tits and in that horrible cycle of addiction than puffing a bit weed.
Shows just how poorly educated people actually are and how ignorant
I wouldn't wish heroin addiction on my worse enemy
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 30 October 2017, 10:32:30 AM
:thup:

Not watched it, but if that was indeed said, they should be locked up for child endangerment.  No wonder our drug laws are amongst some of the worst in the developed world, with an electorate made up that idiocy. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 30 October 2017, 11:01:26 AM
Aye without watching it, any suggestion at all that you would rather your child take smack than weed completely invalidates anything you could say on drugs like :lol:

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 30 October 2017, 11:36:45 AM
Her job is in drug rehabilitation as well. That's the most worrying thing. I wouldn't even expect that sort of s*** from Jeff Sessions tbh.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 30 October 2017, 03:05:24 PM
Having not watched it, I'm not going to jump to any conclusions. However it does seem, on the face of it, a peculiar position to take.

Worth considering what might have led her to this conclusion.

All I can think is that she is comparing Heroin in it's purest form to Cannabis in it's worst.

Pure heroin/morphine/opium, administered correctly, isn't really dangerous at all. For the record, 'administered correctly' covers all the arguments about addiction, overdose and impurities.

Pure cannabis is just as harmless, if less complicated, but if you are the type to smoke it in  a joint with tobacco, you increase the long term dangers.


Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 30 October 2017, 03:08:58 PM
Again, without seeing it, I think she's probably falling into the trap that weed creates mental illness.  Now I don't doubt it does with certain people, but these people might have gone the same way but in a different form if they'd tanned drink or smoked opium (as in, they always had that potential to go a bit mental) 

She's oversimplifying it quite clearly.  Probably a "heroin just gets you addicted, you can get past that, but weed will destroy your mind! :frantic:"  I've known people who have destroyed themselves with weed, but they were also on SSRIs, from dodgy backgrounds, or predisposed to mental illness in the first place. 

I do not, however, accept smoking weed will give you these problems when you've never had these problems to begin with.  Problem is when you've got mid-teens starting it (which I do think is too early having smoked from that age myself), so it's difficult to know what their mental journey was going to be.  If that makes sense.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 30 October 2017, 03:16:59 PM
Again, without seeing it, I think she's probably falling into the trap that weed creates mental illness.  Now I don't doubt it does with certain people, but these people might have gone the same way but in a different form if they'd tanned drink or smoked opium (as in, they always had that potential to go a bit mental) 

She's oversimplifying it quite clearly.  Probably a "heroin just gets you addicted, you can get past that, but weed will destroy your mind! :frantic:"  I've known people who have destroyed themselves with weed, but they were also on SSRIs, from dodgy backgrounds, or predisposed to mental illness in the first place.

Ok I'm gonna watch it.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 30 October 2017, 04:08:32 PM
Seen it and I think, maybe, it is a kind of reverse psychology to discourage her son from smoking skunk, rather than encouraging him to take heroin.

Not the kind of thing you want to tell the world in a BBC documentary, but I can see it working to a degree.

Just read your bit about youngsters and I agree. Definite dangers with taking mind altering substances, whilst the mind is still developing.

Although I can't deny a morbid fascination in the experimental possibilities. Imagine if every child from this day forward was given a dose of ayahuasca in the womb.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 30 October 2017, 04:58:09 PM
I skipped ahead to her part. She's suggesting that if we don't wake up and say the unsayable then loads of people are going to be topping themselves because they can't deal with 'the voices'.

I'm by no means some "weeeeed is fine mayyyn" guy like, it's blatantly not in your best interest to be hammering buckets every morning, but you can say that about anything. It will take over and ruin a small number of people's lives (whether they would have ruined their lives in another manner is debatable) but we take those liberties with probably the majority of things in the modern world.

As for youngsters they'll more than likely be off it altogether or smoking it only occasionally by the time they're in their 20s from my experience, it probably has some impact, but again, those same bairns are going to be downing bottles of Bella and smoking 10 a day anyway.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: The Little Waster on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 10:31:31 PM
You would think Newcastle was Columbia when you go out now.. been in working mens clubs and seen cues for the cubicles. Even worse in the town when you get people who couldnt f*** off full of charlie.


Kill them kill them all ...
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 13 November 2017, 06:47:08 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/ayahuasca-drug-amazon-tribes-psychedelic-hallucinogenic-depression-alcoholism-treatment-exter-a8052161.html

And the rest of the world is finally catching up with us stupid druggies. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Monday 13 November 2017, 10:04:10 PM
Quote
The drug, which causes users to vomit or 'purge' before inducing hallucinations, is brewed by boiling stems of the ayahuasca vine with leaves from the chacruna plant. Chacruna contains the potent potent psychedelic compound dimethyltryptamine, better known as DMT, an illegal class A drug in the UK.
Haven't taken it but I understand that's a "purge" like no other.

Also just get your hands on some acid.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Wednesday 15 November 2017, 10:18:31 PM
Gone to pot on itv plus one now. Pretty interesting to see how weed has helped some people who suffer seizures.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 18 November 2017, 05:10:01 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/marijuana-overdose-baby-colorado-dr-christopher-hoyte-dr-thomas-nappe-a8062256.html

Can't believe this debate is even happening.  Quite horrific a baby has died, but it has zero relevance to the debate on whether weed should be smoked, legal or not. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Monday 20 November 2017, 12:16:50 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/marijuana-overdose-baby-colorado-dr-christopher-hoyte-dr-thomas-nappe-a8062256.html

Can't believe this debate is even happening.  Quite horrific a baby has died, but it has zero relevance to the debate on whether weed should be smoked, legal or not. 

reading the comments it seems the doctors may not be telling the whole story and simply blaming cannabis.
it all happened in 2015
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 20 November 2017, 11:57:46 PM
What the f***?

https://inews.co.uk/explainers/can-think-neighbours-smoking-cannabis/
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 12:12:13 AM
What a sad f***ing w*****. :lol:

Admittedly the smell can be a pain in the arse, but be a grown up and f***ing tell them and see what you can do to work it out. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Wednesday 22 November 2017, 03:28:13 PM
What the f***?

https://inews.co.uk/explainers/can-think-neighbours-smoking-cannabis/

there was a very similar(probably the same)article on the chronicle site.
absolutely disgraceful. me sitting in my living room having a bit smoke, with a wax burner on to help counter the smell. minding my own business not bothering or hurting anyone. next door neighbor getting p*ssed as f***, stinking the place out with tabs and braying on his front door to get let in when p*ssed. and he can report me. but i cant say feck all to him.
thats not right 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Rumpelstiltskin Solano on Thursday 14 December 2017, 03:04:45 PM
Love 'em  O0
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 14 December 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Need a bit of advice if anyone knows much about the medically prescribed drug field. My Granda who is 83 (and very fit & active for his age), last week caught Pneumonia. After taking a course of antibiotics last week, he was yesterday given a new, stronger course as the first failed to shift it. Today he has been delirious & hallucinating, believing he is seeing & hearing my Nanna who passed away years ago, as well as seeing ants on his sitting room floor amongst other hallucinations. To be polite the doctors are an unhelpful bunch of a f***ers and are constantly just palming off my Mam's attempts to get advice & help when there is clearly something not right about the medication he is on. Can anyone offer any advice? It's a bit worrying tbh.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Thursday 14 December 2017, 03:35:22 PM
More likely to be the illness causing it than the medication.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 14 December 2017, 04:01:44 PM
More likely to be the illness causing it than the medication.

Is that a common effect of the illness in elderly people? Or is it something of particular concern, in your view?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 14 December 2017, 04:06:52 PM
I was given some antibiotics a while back that sent me loopy like.  Head spinning, feeling sick, could hear voices and people moving about in the house when I was home alone - opening doors, clumping up stairs etc.  Strangely enough I'd had the same antibiotics a few weeks earlier and was fine with them.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Thursday 14 December 2017, 09:28:29 PM
More likely to be the illness causing it than the medication.

Is that a common effect of the illness in elderly people? Or is it something of particular concern, in your view?

It's a common symptom of fever, which usually presents with pneumonia.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 14 December 2017, 09:30:29 PM
More likely to be the illness causing it than the medication.

Is that a common effect of the illness in elderly people? Or is it something of particular concern, in your view?

It's a common symptom of fever, which usually presents with pneumonia.

Thanks. To be honest, just knowing that it's likely stemming from the pneumonia and not the medication has been reassuring to know (until a doctor can confirm) for myself and my mam, so thank you.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Thursday 14 December 2017, 10:19:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: cubaricho on Friday 15 December 2017, 06:07:02 AM
Love 'em  O0

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 15 December 2017, 09:17:26 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#

How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Saturday 16 December 2017, 08:15:09 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#

How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?

Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor.  But who knows.

The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.


Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 December 2017, 09:45:58 PM
Start that documentary man " 59 people died last year" 59 out of 65.64 Mil is really f*** all
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 17 December 2017, 12:01:48 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#

How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?

Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor.  But who knows.

The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.




:thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 17 December 2017, 12:19:29 AM
Start that documentary man " 59 people died last year" 59 out of 65.64 Mil is really f*** all
Every f***er in the country isn't mashed on pills though.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 17 December 2017, 10:46:26 AM
If only.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: hakka on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:09:58 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#

How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?

Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor.  But who knows.

The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.

:thup:

I still only take a half of any new pill and see how I go. It's so difficult to know if it's strong, average or even if it's MDMA. I've taken ecstasy since 2000, quality was more consistent and cleaner back then, over the years it got weaker as pills got cheaper, and from around 2009 when that mephedrone/legal highs were doing the rounds, getting a quality pill was very difficult. There was a shift to buying pure MDMA crystals as at least then you could get away from the randomness of it and get what you want. Seems last few years there's been a resurgence of more expensive and strong pills, but with random degrees of strong. Definitely think this is causing the surge in pill deaths of late, as for many years you never heard of any across the country.

Funnily enough, thinking back to 2000 sort of era, people in clubs really looked after those that were new to pills. There was a lot of awareness about not over doing it, drinking water, resting, looking out for each other... it was part of why going out back then, the culture and making friends was class. These days in clubs if someone got themselves in a state they become a target for WUM's and laughs. Shame really, but think that respecting that a drug is dangerous and you have to take it slowy and responsibly is being lost.

It's different in other countries mind, I bought a pill in Amsterdam in 2016 at huge rave for 5 euro. The dude said careful, these are strong. It was big, like a shield shape, pink and almost size of my thumbnail. I broke it in to 1/3's and shared with 2 others. Had to be the cleanest and floatiest high I've had in over 10 years. None of the lethargic sleepy feelings, just happy and floating around. Lasted the whole night, didn't need any more at all. Slept fine in the morning for a few hours and felt champion the day after. God knows what difference was in MDMA production but it was so much cleaner than what we get over here.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:19:15 PM
I have not bought anything off a dealer for nearly 6-7 years.  I use forums on DarkWeb to check out actual lab results so I get the full breakdown and quantity and quality of MDMA.

I always get my stuff from Holland and its rare I even get a comedown now.  Difference is dealers are trying to outdo each other on quality.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:46:08 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04h7s06/drugs-map-of-britain-6-newcastle-superstrength-ecstasy#

How much have the auld cowies changed over the past 2 year or so? Noticeably so? Or is it just a bit of a media frenzy?

Over say the past 4 years they just seem to be getting stronger & stronger but the majority of them seem to leave you in that kind of monged state after say like an hour peak. I've read its down to the way mdma is synthesized now, using a different precursor.  But who knows.

The media frenzy is more than likely the result of kids thinking they can double/tripple drop 250mg+ pills, and ending up in hospital or taking some sort of rc/bunk pill thinking its mdma, a test kit costs a fiver and saves either pegging it or ending up in a bad way.

:thup:

I still only take a half of any new pill and see how I go. It's so difficult to know if it's strong, average or even if it's MDMA. I've taken ecstasy since 2000, quality was more consistent and cleaner back then, over the years it got weaker as pills got cheaper, and from around 2009 when that mephedrone/legal highs were doing the rounds, getting a quality pill was very difficult. There was a shift to buying pure MDMA crystals as at least then you could get away from the randomness of it and get what you want. Seems last few years there's been a resurgence of more expensive and strong pills, but with random degrees of strong. Definitely think this is causing the surge in pill deaths of late, as for many years you never heard of any across the country.

Funnily enough, thinking back to 2000 sort of era, people in clubs really looked after those that were new to pills. There was a lot of awareness about not over doing it, drinking water, resting, looking out for each other... it was part of why going out back then, the culture and making friends was class. These days in clubs if someone got themselves in a state they become a target for WUM's and laughs. Shame really, but think that respecting that a drug is dangerous and you have to take it slowy and responsibly is being lost.

It's different in other countries mind, I bought a pill in Amsterdam in 2016 at huge rave for 5 euro. The dude said careful, these are strong. It was big, like a shield shape, pink and almost size of my thumbnail. I broke it in to 1/3's and shared with 2 others. Had to be the cleanest and floatiest high I've had in over 10 years. None of the lethargic sleepy feelings, just happy and floating around. Lasted the whole night, didn't need any more at all. Slept fine in the morning for a few hours and felt champion the day after. God knows what difference was in MDMA production but it was so much cleaner than what we get over here.

:thup:

The early 2000's were great in respect to the quality pills, those lovely MDA/MDMA combinations. Lovely.I believe the surge in the rc scene came just after the biggest safrole oil bust (to that date) which caused the MDMA drought, resulting in all those shitty piperzine pills & no doubt causing a surge in deaths. Mephedrone really took off at this time because it mimics the effect of the good s***, It was ok/cheap when it first came out (if you didn't mind smelling like cat p*ss for a few days) but it turned out to be significantly more addictive & harmful in the long run.

Your right about the clubs too. That feeling of just love between everyone, chatting s*** to random people used to be glorious that & seeing glasses & beards everywhere  :aww: seems like thats all gone now. I see people now showing off dd'ing pills I know are strong as f***, I mean granted you'll be munted but I f***ing doubt it'll be enjoyable not knowing what the hell is going on & festering in a corner the whole night.

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Sunday 17 December 2017, 01:55:39 PM
I have not bought anything off a dealer for nearly 6-7 years.  I use forums on DarkWeb to check out actual lab results so I get the full breakdown and quantity and quality of MDMA.

I always get my stuff from Holland and its rare I even get a comedown now.  Difference is dealers are trying to outdo each other on quality.

I used to do exactly the same but lost a fair bit of bc due to sites being closed & stupidly having coin in my site wallet, I shudder to think about it when I see the price of it now.

Aint used it for a while, quality & price cannot be beaten locally thats for sure. Saying that the best pills I've for a while came from a uk source (dark web) rainbow drops, little but clean only popped up in the uk so I'd assume they were made here.

 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 17 December 2017, 02:26:07 PM
MDMA is a wonderful drug.  It's another wonderful drug having its name dragged through the mud because of incoherent prohibition and the way it makes its way to the 'market'. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:05:19 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/norway-parliament-drugs-decriminalise-recreational-cocaine-heroin-marijuana-a8111761.html

Another country doing smart things.  Obviously we won't though.  Repeat after me, WAR ON DRUGS.  WAR ON DRUGS. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:14:19 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/norway-parliament-drugs-decriminalise-recreational-cocaine-heroin-marijuana-a8111761.html

Another country doing smart things.  Obviously we won't though.  Repeat after me, WAR ON DRUGS.  WAR ON DRUGS. 

WE MUST STOP THIS DEMON SKUNK DRUG THATS KILLING OUR CHILDREN AND FORCING PEOPLE TO ROB AND BE SCUMMY CHARVA'S!!
REPORT YOUR NEIGHBORS AND YOUR FRIENDS TO THE POLICE!!!  :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:19:56 PM
Start that documentary man " 59 people died last year" 59 out of 65.64 Mil is really f*** all
Every f***er in the country isn't mashed on pills though.

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:27:41 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/norway-parliament-drugs-decriminalise-recreational-cocaine-heroin-marijuana-a8111761.html

Another country doing smart things.  Obviously we won't though.  Repeat after me, WAR ON DRUGS.  WAR ON DRUGS. 

WE MUST STOP THIS DEMON SKUNK DRUG THATS KILLING OUR CHILDREN AND FORCING PEOPLE TO ROB AND BE SCUMMY CHARVA'S!!
REPORT YOUR NEIGHBORS AND YOUR FRIENDS TO THE POLICE!!!  :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:


Gateway drug~!~!~! :frantic:

I loved that one.  If there is such a thing as a gateway drug, or substance, it's f***ing alcohol.  I notice they don't use it much anymore though, because it's been thoroughly debunked. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 02:58:41 PM
I personally believe there are no gateway drugs, like, including alcohol. It's just a mindset that you're going to look for stronger stuff if your vice or vices aren't doing it for you. Particularly if the 'doing it for you' bit isn't having fun, but a way of coping with problems in your life or with mental health problems.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 03:53:35 PM
I don't disagree at all. :thup:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 07:33:05 PM
The internet is the biggest gateway going
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 07:50:00 PM
So is it safe to buy online? Seems mental :lol: Putting the Special in Special Delivery :lol:

I find this concept barmy too tbh :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 07:55:58 PM
So is it safe to buy online? Seems mental :lol: Putting the Special in Special Delivery :lol:

Relatively so I'd say, never had any issues what so ever. They normally disguise whatever in a phone case/dvd case or such, aslong as your not buying shitloads that is :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:35:50 PM
So is it safe to buy online? Seems mental :lol: Putting the Special in Special Delivery :lol:

Relatively so I'd say, never had any issues what so ever. They normally disguise whatever in a phone case/dvd case or such, aslong as your not buying shitloads that is :lol:

Cool. But you pay extra for this fancy packaging?

Guess you could always :dontknow: when the law comes.

Also, I'd probably have to vpn and go to a part of the Web I really don't want to?

The pricing for postage varies but I'd usually end up paying ~5-7£ obviously depends on weight / size.  A vpn would be advisable yes.

I've only ever stuck to the drug market places on the dark web, reddit can be good to find out the best ones. You'll also need to dl tor. Its all easy to do just make sure you read up about it before jumping in feet first.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jaqen on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Never had a problem ordering online either. Works out cheaper and you know what you’re getting.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:50:26 PM
I love the thought of a pill turning up in the post. But it sounds like too much effort for a lazy f***er like me.

I'll give it some thought, though :thup:

:thup:

It's canny easy once you get the hang of it but thats also the problem, things like coke / ket / lsd / pills are cheap as f*** and in general really good quality. Obviously this can lead to unwanted problems addiction & such, you know when you go on shopping sprees on ebay amazon or whatever while p*ssed well it can end up like that but with class a's appearing a few days later.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 08:52:17 PM
Never had a problem ordering online either. Works out cheaper and you know what you’re getting.

:thup:

Used to be more scared meeting dealers & ending up with s**** half the time.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Tuesday 19 December 2017, 09:20:55 PM
Only used it for weed, but it's really easy.  All you do is download Tor, register at a marketplace, and transfer in some bitcoin.  After that it's just like using Amazon.  It's always well-packaged and vacuum sealed - there's no smell and no way you'd get caught unless the postie was actually opening your mail.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:01:45 AM
Only used it for weed, but it's really easy.  All you do is download Tor, register at a marketplace, and transfer in some bitcoin.  After that it's just like using Amazon.  It's always well-packaged and vacuum sealed - there's no smell and no way you'd get caught unless the postie was actually opening your mail.

Best to stick to UK people if you can. So I've heard.

Otherwise you might end up with a polite letter from the border force. Again, so I've heard.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:27:19 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:28:14 PM
Only used it for weed, but it's really easy.  All you do is download Tor, register at a marketplace, and transfer in some bitcoin.  After that it's just like using Amazon.  It's always well-packaged and vacuum sealed - there's no smell and no way you'd get caught unless the postie was actually opening your mail.

Best to stick to UK people if you can. So I've heard.

Otherwise you might end up with a polite letter from the border force. Again, so I've heard.

I only ever ordered from the UK, but mainly for the delivery time - it was often next day delivery.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: henke on Wednesday 20 December 2017, 10:31:51 PM
It isn't risk free. A kid I know is on a suspended sentence, by the skin of his f***ing teeth, after customs rumbled him and a few of his pals. Google ecstasy and Carlisle crown court if you're interested, around last June.

How on earth you get caught with hundreds of pills and avoid jail is beyond me like. Have to say I'm glad it did happen.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Monday 1 January 2018, 01:24:01 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42532776

Recreational use now allowed in California.
Can be holding an ounce and grow 6 plants.
Industry expected to total 5.8billion dollars by 2021
And here we are in the UK still demonising it in the press and not even talking about medical use
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Slim on Monday 1 January 2018, 05:17:20 PM
It isn't risk free. A kid I know is on a suspended sentence, by the skin of his f***ing teeth, after customs rumbled him and a few of his pals. Google ecstasy and Carlisle crown court if you're interested, around last June.

How on earth you get caught with hundreds of pills and avoid jail is beyond me like. Have to say I'm glad it did happen.

LOL well yeah having a few hundred pills is obviously risky as f***.  Think what me and most people are talking about is the police ain't going to come after you for a few g.

Especially how hard it is to prove you ordered them and the resources they have now.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: summerof69 on Tuesday 9 January 2018, 08:08:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiW4gE7gB4
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 10:59:19 PM
Can we keep discussion of using the Dark web to procure illegal substances strictly to PMs please, f***ing hell. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Flip on Thursday 11 January 2018, 06:13:43 AM
Can we keep discussion of using the Dark web to procure illegal substances strictly to PMs please, f***ing hell. :lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 January 2018, 06:22:28 PM
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/10-01-2018/theres-some-strong-ecstasy-going-around-so-we-need-to-make-pill-testing-easy/

Another nation, smart things etc. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hudson on Thursday 11 January 2018, 07:02:19 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42532776

Recreational use now allowed in California.
Can be holding an ounce and grow 6 plants.
Industry expected to total 5.8billion dollars by 2021
And here we are in the UK still demonising it in the press and not even talking about medical use

It's been looked at in the house of commons under the 10 minute rule, expect it to be ready post brexit

https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2017-19/legalisationofcannabismedicinalpurposes.html

Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 January 2018, 07:04:03 PM
As much as the push for medical use is good an all, it distracts from the fact we should be allowed to buy, smoke and generally have weed for recreational use.  I'd imagine us getting to the point of medical weed, then sitting on our arse and acting like we've achieved something.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Hudson on Thursday 11 January 2018, 07:08:04 PM
As much as the push for medical use is good an all, it distracts from the fact we should be allowed to buy, smoke and have weed for recreational use.  I'd imagine us getting to the point of medical weed, then sitting on our arse and acting like we've achieved something.

We will just end up like Cali and it's medical use

"Hi doc i cannot sleep can you give me a medical note for weed"

"Yeah thast £50 please"
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 January 2018, 11:25:01 PM
Agree with that.  We're the epitome of half-arsed reform and progression. 

Moving on.  Does anyone here eat their weed?  I don't mean that as crudely as the question is framed, obviously in cakes and what not, but just want to gauge some experiences.  I got given a few cupcakes for christmas off the in-laws, and I'll be honest, didn't think much of it.  I'd previously once ingested weed in my teens, I used to burn pollen or more likely resin into yogurts and that, well, that floored me.  I remember still being stoned well into Monday morning at school. :shifty:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Friday 12 January 2018, 02:42:19 AM
Agree with that.  We're the epitome of half-arsed reform and progression. 

Moving on.  Does anyone here eat their weed?  I don't mean that as crudely as the question is framed, obviously in cakes and what not, but just want to gauge some experiences.  I got given a few cupcakes for christmas off the in-laws, and I'll be honest, didn't think much of it.  I'd previously once ingested weed in my teens, I used to burn pollen or more likely resin into yogurts and that, well, that floored me.  I remember still being stoned well into Monday morning at school. :shifty:

I just ordered some online (COMPLETELY LEGALLY DAVE) so I'll report back once I've tried them.  My previous experiences with them have varied, but I think it'll be easier to judge when they come from a proper dispensary.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 12 January 2018, 11:12:36 PM
Agree with that.  We're the epitome of half-arsed reform and progression. 

Moving on.  Does anyone here eat their weed?  I don't mean that as crudely as the question is framed, obviously in cakes and what not, but just want to gauge some experiences.  I got given a few cupcakes for christmas off the in-laws, and I'll be honest, didn't think much of it.  I'd previously once ingested weed in my teens, I used to burn pollen or more likely resin into yogurts and that, well, that floored me.  I remember still being stoned well into Monday morning at school. :shifty:

First time is always the best.

My first time, about 8 of us baked some cookies and it was all cool, then we went out to the pub, and in the beer garden everybody began speaking backwards. And everybody uderstood everybody. It was quite an amazing time.

Another time, I was on my way to see Porgy and Bess, at the Barbican after work so was running late and knew I wouldn't have time to have a doobie before, so I just had a little nibble. At one point the orchestra transformed into a giant tiara, crowning the stage.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: newsted on Saturday 13 January 2018, 12:11:46 AM
You are weird, man. :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: triggs on Saturday 13 January 2018, 12:28:43 AM
You are weird, man. :lol:
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Keggy_Keagal on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 06:05:02 PM
Interested in the possibilities of online. If anyone would care to pm. Thx .
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Rumpelstiltskin Solano on Thursday 1 February 2018, 11:13:27 AM
Have had to stop puffing the herb now after many years because it gives me horrendous muscle cramps and pains moving through my body, very annoying but saving me a bit of dosh at least  :lol:  What was once my way out has now become a no go, anyone recommend anything that gives a similar effect
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: AfroP on Sunday 18 February 2018, 12:33:31 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-43101716

Absolute disgrace that this poor kid has to suffer because narrow minded, fear mongering idiots make stupid decisions. Ffs, if it can get past the FCC in the US it should pass any tests we have.
And the fact that it's proven to work for the little dude as well.
I do find it annoying that this English family went to the Netherlands for the treatment and had to come back as they didn't have medical insurance.
But the rest of Europe comes here and gets free healthcare in the NHS.
c***s
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Troll on Sunday 18 February 2018, 03:21:42 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-43101716

Absolute disgrace that this poor kid has to suffer because narrow minded, fear mongering idiots make stupid decisions. Ffs, if it can get past the FCC in the US it should pass any tests we have.
And the fact that it's proven to work for the little dude as well.
I do find it annoying that this English family went to the Netherlands for the treatment and had to come back as they didn't have medical insurance.
But the rest of Europe comes here and gets free healthcare in the NHS.

c***s

That's not how it works.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 19 February 2018, 02:13:05 PM
I don’t even know what i’m on right now but it’s 6am and I feel amazing.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 19 February 2018, 02:52:47 PM
An educated guess says ecstasy. 
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 19 February 2018, 02:57:03 PM
:lol: Say what you like about nordic forward thinking politics, but I bet they've got f*** all cowies. I know where I'd rather lay my head.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 19 February 2018, 03:06:03 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 20 March 2018, 02:29:45 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/wj7qzb/cocaine-is-the-hidden-mixer-in-newcastles-economy?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 20 March 2018, 03:39:31 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/wj7qzb/cocaine-is-the-hidden-mixer-in-newcastles-economy?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

Timeout London ran a front cover in 2005 saying the same thing about London.

As always we're years behind.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 19 May 2018, 12:36:05 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/mbkedp/the-governments-drugs-minister-must-step-down?utm_source=vicefbuk
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 May 2018, 12:39:49 PM
For fucksake. :anguish:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: thomas on Saturday 19 May 2018, 12:45:17 PM
we need to cut the bullshit about medicinal uses and just legalize it across the board :lol: i mean, i 100% applaud and appreciate the attempts at backdooring legitimacy through promoting medical benefits of it but ... just let people get high, man.
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 19 May 2018, 12:48:40 PM
Yes!  Always hated supporting the medicinal arguments for that reason.  :lol:
Title: Re: Drugs
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 22 May 2018, 02:39:25 PM