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Title: UFC - McGregor retires, accused of sexual assault
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 April 2007, 05:40:53 PM
I have been watching boxing sinne i was 9ish but for about a year i have been watching mma and for entertainment mma could very easily over take boxing in viewing.   :smitten:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 8 April 2007, 05:42:12 PM
You what now?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 8 April 2007, 05:44:15 PM
Uh huh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 April 2007, 05:48:12 PM
Pretty much saying MMA, ufc etc is much better than boxing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 8 April 2007, 05:49:54 PM
Aye this has what to do with football, Newcastle? :D
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 April 2007, 05:55:36 PM
woops wrong froums lol, can some 1 move it
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 8 April 2007, 06:01:59 PM
Aye, to the bin. :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 8 April 2007, 06:09:36 PM
Are the Mods off for Easter or something?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Sunday 8 April 2007, 06:39:36 PM
Never seen any UFC. What channel is it usually on?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 8 April 2007, 06:42:42 PM
Bravo. It's much better than boxing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:09:06 PM
GSP got dealt with last night by Cera.  Upset of the new millennium tbh.  :D  Good night of fighting last night, though. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:11:34 PM
Is it repeated tonight?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:16:34 PM
Is it repeated tonight?

It's available through PPV, mate and over here they make it available a couple days after the event.  I'm not sure about the UK.  I'm in Toronto and it was $40 CD, which is the equivalent of 20 quid.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:19:31 PM
Bit pricey. Who fought?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:23:48 PM
Bit pricey. Who fought?

www.ufc.com 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:24:14 PM
Some of the under cards were really good. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:42:37 PM
And now they have bought pride its going to get better.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrissy Bee on Sunday 8 April 2007, 07:53:31 PM
Is UFC fixed like WWF or like boxing?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 April 2007, 08:19:52 PM
I like the ufc bonus system $10000 for fight,knock out and submission of the night.  So you see more attackion packed fight you also get more if it does not go to the judges
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 8 April 2007, 08:58:52 PM
Is UFC fixed like WWF or like boxing?

It's not fixed, browse you tube, bound to be something on there.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Sunday 8 April 2007, 09:48:24 PM
Pride is far better than UFC in terms of the standard of fighters. Best fighter in the world right now is Fedor imo. The problem with watching MMA is it can quickly descend into a fight on the ground, and a lot of people don't like watching that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 8 April 2007, 11:01:41 PM
What channel is pride on?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Monday 9 April 2007, 01:12:15 AM
no idea
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 9 April 2007, 12:09:26 PM
Yeah pride is ahrd to get unless you downloadload it prde 34 is the lastest.  But there is loads of pridew stuff on youtube
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Nobby on Monday 9 April 2007, 12:14:12 PM
i love watching UFC etc, my gf hates it like, thinks its too violent, the highlights shows are the best
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 9 April 2007, 06:24:42 PM
UFC 69 is on bravo tongiht at 9pm.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Geordie Boyo on Monday 9 April 2007, 10:04:34 PM
The UFC now more less own Pride by the way.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2007/Mar-27-Tue-2007/sports/13414338.html

The UFC president Dana White now has the rights to use Pride mixed martial artists against the best in the UFC when he wants which is great for MMA when it comes to matching up the best fighters in the world.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=EventDetail.FightCard&eid=472

Keep an eye on the likes of Cro Cop, Arlovski & Liverpool's Michael Bisping at UFC 70. Cage Rage 21 just happens to be on the same night too.

http://www.cagerage.tv/nextevents.htm


We've got our own local MMA events too so I'd keep a look out for the likes of Total Combat & Valhalla and support our local fighters. A lot of the fights are semi-pro, but the only difference being is that there is no punching to the head when on the ground. There's always a few big name pro fighters to draw in the crowd so it’s always a pretty good night for entertainment value.





Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Tuesday 10 April 2007, 06:01:13 PM
Sanchez lost his bottle likel. I thought he would have killed him.

Liddell vs Rampage 2 next month. Should be class that, Rampage destroyed him the last time.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 22 April 2007, 12:33:32 AM
Mirko CroCop got KO'd from a high kick....
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ticaL on Sunday 22 April 2007, 12:37:06 AM
Mirko CroCop got KO'd from a high kick....

f***ing sickening shot. His ankle...

Shame the Arlovski/Kongo fights were utter gash.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 22 April 2007, 12:39:36 AM
I haven't seen it, as I was put in b****** work, and couldn't find anywhere to watch it in time. Don't think its repeated either.

GSP KO'd in the first round by Serra, now CroCop. Crazy s***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ticaL on Sunday 22 April 2007, 12:42:20 AM
I haven't seen it, as I was put in b****** work, and couldn't find anywhere to watch it in time. Don't think its repeated either.

GSP KO'd in the first round by Serra, now CroCop. Crazy s***.

Indeed. Now with the aquisition of Pride, looks like more fighters are going to be dethroned...(I'm thinking Liddell...)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 22 April 2007, 12:49:04 AM
Liddell got chinned off Rampage last time (his UFC 71 opponent) But Rampage hasn't been as good as he used to be lately. Either way, if Shogun comes over from PRIDE, he will beat anyone in the UFC at LHW.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Sunday 22 April 2007, 11:28:48 PM
My god, Cro Cop got KTFO. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 03:39:34 PM
My god, Cro Cop got KTFO. Unbelievable.

Caught the replay here the other night.  Knocked out the way he knocks out people(Cro Cop).  Pretty gash night
before that fight.  The skinny scouser was pretty good and Bisping destroyed that Aussie c***.  I wanna
see Bisping face a decent fighter, he's only fought bottom feeders.  Impressive, but I wanna see him fight
an opponent with a decent history. 

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 03:44:10 PM
Sinosic has fought alot of big names. Ortiz ect

UFC 72 seems to be pretty s****, the one in (Northern?) Ireland. Rich Franklin is the main event...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 03:48:08 PM
Sinosic has fought alot of big names. Ortiz ect

UFC 72 seems to be pretty s****, the one in (Northern?) Ireland. Rich Franklin is the main event...

What did Tito do to him?  Beat the s**** out of him as well.  I felt bad for Sinosic, the bloke was up against it.  Seemed
like a nice bloke as well. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 03:53:08 PM
Yeah, but Sinosic does have experience ect. Just saying :P

You gotta build Bisping up, if you put him straight in against the best he would get destroyed.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 04:08:35 PM
Yeah, but Sinosic does have experience ect. Just saying :P

You gotta build Bisping up, if you put him straight in against the best he would get destroyed.

Bisping has had quite a few fights, he's 14-0.  You're right about Sinosic, but I think they could
have found someone a little more challenging.  Human punching bags aren't entertaining.  I like
Bisping, he's a humble bloke and fights like it's his last, but give the guy someone who will offer a
bit of opposition.  Just saying.  ;)

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 04:12:38 PM
Yeah, Sinosic has lost his last 6 fights, and only won once (v Jeremy Horn)

Bisping will probably have another fight against someone not so good, then get a big fight.

Be good if he fought Babalu. Probably abit too much for him though.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 04:38:15 PM
Yeah, Sinosic has lost his last 6 fights, and only won once (v Jeremy Horn)

Bisping will probably have another fight against someone not so good, then get a big fight.

Be good if he fought Babalu. Probably abit too much for him though.



Isn't Babalu in a different weight class?  I say Forest Griffin would be a good fight with Bisping and
would give him a talent check.  Take him down and Bisping is for real.  Won't happen, though.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 04:57:50 PM
Since my last post on the first page I've really got into UFC. Watched both 69 and 70 and have been watching the ultimate fighter.

Gonzaga's KO of Cro Crop was brilliant.  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 05:03:45 PM
Since my last post on the first page I've really got into UFC. Watched both 69 and 70 and have been watching the ultimate fighter.

Gonzaga's KO of Cro Crop was brilliant.  :coolsmiley:

Shocked me when I was watching it.  Couture called it, though.  Gonzaga Vs. Couture will be brilliant. Both possess great stand-up and ground techniques.  I have a feeling we'll still see Cro Cop in a championship fight.  The Heavyweight Class is pretty thin on talent. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 06:01:36 PM
Since my last post on the first page I've really got into UFC. Watched both 69 and 70 and have been watching the ultimate fighter.

Gonzaga's KO of Cro Crop was brilliant.  :coolsmiley:

Shocked me when I was watching it.  Couture called it, though.  Gonzaga Vs. Couture will be brilliant. Both possess great stand-up and ground techniques.  I have a feeling we'll still see Cro Cop in a championship fight.  The Heavyweight Class is pretty thin on talent. 
Cro Crop's problem is adapting to UFC, like he said he had troubles with blurry vision after the elbows, something he wasn't used to when he was with PRIDE.

Hopefully Nogueira should spice up the Heavyweight division.
 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 06:01:51 PM
Babalu is 205 as is Bisping.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 06:35:45 PM
Babalu is 205 as is Bisping.

Right, mate.  Babalu is a bit s****, he lost to Lambert.  Rashad Evans beat up Lambert.  Evans and
Bisping would be a good fight to decide who faces Liddell. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 06:42:22 PM

Since my last post on the first page I've really got into UFC. Watched both 69 and 70 and have been watching the ultimate fighter.

Gonzaga's KO of Cro Crop was brilliant.  :coolsmiley:

Shocked me when I was watching it.  Couture called it, though.  Gonzaga Vs. Couture will be brilliant. Both possess great stand-up and ground techniques.  I have a feeling we'll still see Cro Cop in a championship fight.  The Heavyweight Class is pretty thin on talent. 
Cro Crop's problem is adapting to UFC, like he said he had troubles with blurry vision after the elbows, something he wasn't used to when he was with PRIDE.

Hopefully Nogueira should spice up the Heavyweight division.
 

I thought that Dana White was going to announce Fedor Emelianenko had joined UFC, bit dissatisfying.  Still, you're right, Nogueira should be able to make an impact. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 07:51:10 PM
Babalu is 205 as is Bisping.

Right, mate.  Babalu is a bit s****, he lost to Lambert.  Rashad Evans beat up Lambert.  Evans and
Bisping would be a good fight to decide who faces Liddell. 

Babalu isn't s***. Bisping won't be fighting Liddell for atleast 2 years. Nowhere near good enough. Evans isnt even ranked, so he shouldn't fight Liddell.

Evans is fighting Tito in July. If Liddell beats Rampage, hopefully Shogun will fight Liddell.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 08:36:34 PM
Babalu is 205 as is Bisping.

Right, mate.  Babalu is a bit s****, he lost to Lambert.  Rashad Evans beat up Lambert.  Evans and
Bisping would be a good fight to decide who faces Liddell. 

Babalu isn't s***. Bisping won't be fighting Liddell for atleast 2 years. Nowhere near good enough. Evans isnt even ranked, so he shouldn't fight Liddell.

Evans is fighting Tito in July. If Liddell beats Rampage, hopefully Shogun will fight Liddell.

I said a "bit s****", meaning he's off form losing to Lambert.  I don't think Bisping is as far away as you think he is.  Evans beats Tito and he's right up there, look at Cera and where did Gonzaga come from?  There's so many fighters out there that if you have the slightest bit more talent than most, you'll rise quickly. 

I remember in the 90's it was anybody in the crowd who felt like taking on someone, could.  Tank Abbott days and Gracie, who introduced MMA to UFC, practically. 




Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 25 April 2007, 11:14:55 PM
The problem with the UFC is most of the best LHW's are in Pride. Wanderlei Silva, Shogun, Arona, Dan Henderson and Rampage has just come across.

I like Bisping, but he's pretty sloppy. Gonzaga was already ranked I think before he fought CroCop. Serra was lucky.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Thursday 26 April 2007, 12:37:17 AM
The problem with the UFC is most of the best LHW's are in Pride. Wanderlei Silva, Shogun, Arona, Dan Henderson and Rampage has just come across.

I like Bisping, but he's pretty sloppy. Gonzaga was already ranked I think before he fought CroCop. Serra was lucky.

Agreed, mate.  Bisping get's too anxious in the cage, needs to work on his mental side of the game.  His conditioning seems
2nd to none (maybe Tito) and all round game is there, but you're right, Liddell would tear him to bits right now.  You never
know, though, anyone can beat anyone in this sport. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Thursday 26 April 2007, 05:47:01 PM
Except Fedor, noone cant beat him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 29 April 2007, 12:35:49 AM
Except Fedor, noone cant beat him.

Possibly, but they said the same about Mike Tyson.  Maybe Fedor will drop some weight and square off against Liddell (with Chuck adding some).  Fedor has lost, though, by way of TKO to Tsuyoshi Kohsaka.   
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 29 April 2007, 04:24:24 PM
Fedor lost because of a cut. Pretty s**** way to lose tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dave on Sunday 29 April 2007, 04:26:35 PM
Is it this where at some point one of them has to curl up on the floor and the other has to basically bum him to get him over? It got boring dead quickly when I watched it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Sunday 29 April 2007, 04:41:29 PM
Some fights are boring as f***, but some are class, just like boxing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Monday 30 April 2007, 01:33:10 AM
Yeah, those fights are terrible. Ones that end up on the ground, but it's all a part of MMA.  I prefer watching two fighters with stand-up game, but a mix of the two can be just as entertaining.  As long as Joe Roegan is doing the commentating, he knows so much about the sport just listening to him can be entertaining.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 30 April 2007, 03:29:57 PM
Best fight ever is Nick Diaz vs Robbie Lawler.

Anyone who watches that and still thinks UFC is s***, is a hom.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Thursday 3 May 2007, 09:51:52 PM
Best fight ever is Nick Diaz vs Robbie Lawler.

Anyone who watches that and still thinks UFC is s***, is a hom.



Forrest Griffin against that other guy from the ultimate fighter was a mint one like!!

UFC Is far more entertaining than boxing imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Sunday 27 May 2007, 11:15:25 AM
UFC 71 is on tonight on Bravo at 9pm.

It's not live so can people refrain from posting the results.

Should be a good show, I can honestly see Jackson beating Liddell. I think Liddell has become too much of a celebrity and will get cuaght out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Sunday 27 May 2007, 08:12:34 PM
anyone that hasnt seen UFC before should watch this main event on Bravo, should be an excellent fight
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Coubury on Sunday 27 May 2007, 08:31:21 PM
Im heading to UFC 72 in Belfast on the 16th June

Cant wait  :celb:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 27 May 2007, 09:54:33 PM
Quite the upset last night, that right hook hit like a lighting bolt on Liddell's chin.  Rampage has Chuck's number, no question.  Here's some video for those of you who missed it: http://video.nbcsports.com/player/?id=112030

Watch the interviews with Rampage, pretty funny stuff. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 28 May 2007, 02:21:49 AM
Best UFC I've ever seen like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Monday 28 May 2007, 10:05:02 AM
If anybody wants to see the fights they are on again tonight on Bravo and they are also uploaded onto dailymotion.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 28 May 2007, 12:54:20 PM
Houston Alexander vs Michael Bisping, would be good craic.

Rampage is hard as f***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Monday 28 May 2007, 01:14:41 PM
Houston Alexander vs Michael Bisping, would be good craic.

Rampage is hard as f***.
The Alexander/Jardine fight was f***ing awesome. Alexander vs Bisping would be class, hopefully it would be on the London card in September.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Monday 28 May 2007, 01:16:25 PM
Don't think this has been posted in here yet but UFC will be coming to London in September. Will be in the O2 arena.

Only fighter penciled in so far is Bisping.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Monday 28 May 2007, 03:00:37 PM
Some great fights last night, shame about the main event... was over way to quick.
The s*** thing about bravo is, you knew that the main fight could only be 1-2 rounds as it didnt start till about 11.45 and the program finished at 12!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Tuesday 29 May 2007, 08:43:59 PM
Should be a good show, I can honestly see Jackson beating Liddell. I think Liddell has become too much of a celebrity and will get cuaght out.
Looks like I was right on both counts. Various UFC sites have pictures and reports that Liddell was out clubbing in Vegas on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights the week of the fight and was at the clubs until atleast 2/3am each night. If this is the case then Liddell deserved to get knocked out. If I were Dana White I'd be having words as well, pretty stupid to be out partying the week of one of the biggest fights in UFC history. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: graemeh72 on Tuesday 29 May 2007, 10:48:52 PM
I don't believe in Aliens or UFOs for that matter
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 02:50:04 PM
I don't believe in Aliens or UFOs for that matter

Really?  That's surprising, cause your face looks like Uranus.   :razz:

ZING!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 02:53:55 PM
Should be a good show, I can honestly see Jackson beating Liddell. I think Liddell has become too much of a celebrity and will get cuaght out.
Looks like I was right on both counts. Various UFC sites have pictures and reports that Liddell was out clubbing in Vegas on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights the week of the fight and was at the clubs until atleast 2/3am each night. If this is the case then Liddell deserved to get knocked out. If I were Dana White I'd be having words as well, pretty stupid to be out partying the week of one of the biggest fights in UFC history. 

Links?   I dunno, depends what he was doing.  If he got enough rest, I don't see the big deal.  Didn't stop Georgie Best, did it?

Still, I see your point, Chuck fell guilty to his own hype.  Which is deserved hype, but he should have been weary of it. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 03:08:07 PM
Liddel had a bit of a gut on him. Didn't look in shape at all.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 05:29:10 PM
Meh, you guys are making too much of this.  I'm sure he didn't do anything out of the ordinary before this fight.  He got caught with a hook square on the chin, it could happen to anyone. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 06:04:17 PM
Meh, you guys are making too much of this.  I'm sure he didn't do anything out of the ordinary before this fight.  He got caught with a hook square on the chin, it could happen to anyone. 
If your out partying until 4am you are not going to be at your very best. Maybe he would still have got knocked out but at the end of the day the week before the biggest fight of your life you shouldn't be out clubbing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 06:06:37 PM
Meh, you guys are making too much of this.  I'm sure he didn't do anything out of the ordinary before this fight.  He got caught with a hook square on the chin, it could happen to anyone. 
If your out partying until 4am you are not going to be at your very best. Maybe he would still have got knocked out but at the end of the day the week before the biggest fight of your life you shouldn't be out clubbing.

How do you know he was out till 4am?  What if Rampage was out till 5am? 

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 06:32:07 PM
What has Rampage hypothetically going out till 5am got to do with anything. At the end of the day, Chuck has been KO'd twice by Rampage now. Shogun Rua is by far the best LHW in MMA.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 08:17:58 PM
What has Rampage hypothetically going out till 5am got to do with anything. At the end of the day, Chuck has been KO'd twice by Rampage now. Shogun Rua is by far the best LHW in MMA.

UHHH...he knocked Chuck out? Could have been partying harder than him?  It doesn't matter what either of them did.  Liddell was the same as he's always been and got knocked to the ground, pounded and couldn't defend himself.  End of. 

Shogun Rua?  Wrong, Rampage is right now.  He's got the only belt that matters and until Rua takes it from him (or anyone else), it's Quinton.  I suspect this fight will happen after Dan Henderson fight Rampage. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 09:49:18 PM
Last time Rua fought Rampage, he f***ing dominated him. Rua isn't even int he UFC so how can he get the belt from Rampage? Rampage is good, but he isn't as good as Shogun, or Wanderlei Silva for that matter.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Wednesday 30 May 2007, 10:36:10 PM
Anyone here watch Ultimate fighter on Bravo every tuesday? was a canny good/funny street fight on it last night!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Thursday 31 May 2007, 09:32:26 AM
Meh, you guys are making too much of this.  I'm sure he didn't do anything out of the ordinary before this fight.  He got caught with a hook square on the chin, it could happen to anyone. 
If your out partying until 4am you are not going to be at your very best. Maybe he would still have got knocked out but at the end of the day the week before the biggest fight of your life you shouldn't be out clubbing.

How do you know he was out till 4am?  What if Rampage was out till 5am? 


I know he was out until 4am and Rampage wasn't because their are articles on UFCMania, UFCcountdown, MMAWeekly and virtually every other UFC/MMA site showing pictures of him at all the big Vegas clubs.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Thursday 31 May 2007, 09:33:35 AM
Last time Rua fought Rampage, he f***ing dominated him. Rua isn't even int he UFC so how can he get the belt from Rampage? Rampage is good, but he isn't as good as Shogun, or Wanderlei Silva for that matter.
Rua's signing was announced at UFC 71
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Thursday 31 May 2007, 09:35:42 AM
Some more news on the london show for all interested. It will take place on September 8th at the O2.

The main event will be Mirko "Cro Crop" Filipovic against an unnamed opponent. Michael Bisping and Jess Liaudin will also feature on the card.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Thursday 31 May 2007, 11:18:25 AM
I didn't see it announced? Dan Henderson was.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Thursday 31 May 2007, 12:07:53 PM
I didn't see it announced? Dan Henderson was.
I don't think the announcement was shown on the UK show. Got to remember the version we get is edited in some places.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Thursday 31 May 2007, 05:27:46 PM
Meh, you guys are making too much of this.  I'm sure he didn't do anything out of the ordinary before this fight.  He got caught with a hook square on the chin, it could happen to anyone. 
If your out partying until 4am you are not going to be at your very best. Maybe he would still have got knocked out but at the end of the day the week before the biggest fight of your life you shouldn't be out clubbing.

How do you know he was out till 4am?  What if Rampage was out till 5am? 


I know he was out until 4am and Rampage wasn't because their are articles on UFCMania, UFCcountdown, MMAWeekly and virtually every other UFC/MMA site showing pictures of him at all the big Vegas clubs.
Just to add to that in the LA Times today Liddell has 'fessed up that he was out clubbing every night that week including the night before the fight, although he says that wasn't the reason for his defeat.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Thursday 31 May 2007, 06:56:10 PM
Meh, you guys are making too much of this.  I'm sure he didn't do anything out of the ordinary before this fight.  He got caught with a hook square on the chin, it could happen to anyone. 
If your out partying until 4am you are not going to be at your very best. Maybe he would still have got knocked out but at the end of the day the week before the biggest fight of your life you shouldn't be out clubbing.

How do you know he was out till 4am?  What if Rampage was out till 5am? 


I know he was out until 4am and Rampage wasn't because their are articles on UFCMania, UFCcountdown, MMAWeekly and virtually every other UFC/MMA site showing pictures of him at all the big Vegas clubs.
Just to add to that in the LA Times today Liddell has 'fessed up that he was out clubbing every night that week including the night before the fight, although he says that wasn't the reason for his defeat.

Haha...  dude got knocked out/down.  End of. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Thursday 31 May 2007, 06:58:14 PM
Last time Rua fought Rampage, he f****** dominated him. Rua isn't even int he UFC so how can he get the belt from Rampage? Rampage is good, but he isn't as good as Shogun, or Wanderlei Silva for that matter.
Rua's signing was announced at UFC 71

But those who watch UFC already knew that.  :D 

Just taking the p*ss, Andy mate.  Rampage has the belt, doesn't matter about the past.  I'll agree with you when Rua takes it from him. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Thursday 31 May 2007, 08:06:22 PM
Rua will take it from him, he's too good.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Thursday 31 May 2007, 08:09:59 PM
You're a fan, Andy?  I just want to see good fights, most of the time I don't care who wins.  Didn't care who won saturday. 

Well, that's a lie, I like seeing GSP do well as with Bisping. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Friday 1 June 2007, 10:32:48 AM
Rua, is the best fighter I've ever seen, apart from Fedor.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Friday 1 June 2007, 03:24:16 PM
How many times have you seen them?  I think it's impossible to label this guy "the best" or "unbeatable".  That's why the sport is so great, anyone can beat anyone else.  There are fighters who are better than others, but it's hard to label one guy, "The Best". 

I agree, they're both good and can't wait to see them fight in the UFC. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Saturday 9 June 2007, 03:10:17 PM
New info on the London event in September. Mirko "Cro Crop" Filopovic is no longer the main event.

The main event will know be Quinton “Rampage” Jackson vs. Dan Henderson for the UFC Light-Heavyweight Championship.

Let me just say solely because of that fight I will be there.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Saturday 9 June 2007, 08:16:02 PM
How much are tickets?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Happy Face on Saturday 9 June 2007, 08:23:33 PM
Can this be renamed?  I keep forgetting what it stands for and opening the thread in the mistaken belief I might be interested.  After doing this a few times, I now know to avoid the thread, but keep forgetting what it stands for and opening it to remind myself.

 :-[
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Sunday 10 June 2007, 03:41:53 PM
How much are tickets?
Hasn't been announced yet.

Also Mirko "Cro Crop" Filopovic will likely face Cheick Kongo in London.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 20 June 2007, 03:21:54 PM
Ultimate fighter finale on sunday. Penn v Pulver, Diaz v Manny.

Bravo is s***, the haven't even broadcast the second semi yet, but they are advertising the final, so they've spoilt the second semi.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Monday 25 June 2007, 08:43:46 PM
Kimbo just had a cage fight vs Mercer, 46 year old wawshed up ex HW champ, Kimbo won and now everyone on youtube is going OMG KIMBO WUD BATTER RAMPAGE OMGG :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Parky on Monday 25 June 2007, 09:09:48 PM
He's certainly scary in his bare knuckle guise. I wouldn't feel safe even with a crowbar. :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 25 June 2007, 09:40:37 PM
Cant wait to see Bisping VS Hamill
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 25 June 2007, 10:33:24 PM
Stacked should be class. Nog v Herring (Nog to win by sub) Tito v Rashad (Tito by ref stoppage, GNP) Sherk v Franca (Not sure on this one, probably Sherk though) and Anderson silva vs that guy whos name I've forgot. Silva to win though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 4 July 2007, 09:49:41 PM
Wanderlei Silva is supposedly fighting Chuck Liddell soon. Buzzin!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 26 August 2007, 12:01:25 PM
Quote
UFC LIVE on Setanta Sports 1

Setanta will be the only place to watch UFC 75, the first UFC super-card to take place in London in five years exclusively live throughout the UK this September.

The sold out UFC 75 will take place at London's O2 and will be headlined by the historic collisions between the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson and PRIDE FC counterpart Dan Henderson and is only available to Setanta Sports subscribers and is not available as a pay per view event.

UFC 75 will also feature an eagerly awaited grudge match as Britain's own undefeated UFC superstar Michael 'the Count' Bisping will attempt to settle an old score when he battles former Ultimate Fighter Season 3 teammate and bitter rival Matt 'the Hammer' Hamill in a three round light heavyweight contest.

Good stuff :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 26 August 2007, 04:26:53 PM
GSP, Cote and Couture all winning last night!  Some really good fights, glad that c*** Kendall Grove was rocked by Cote.  Can't wait for GSP to get his title rematch next year. 

Looking forward to UFC 75 in two weeks.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Li3nZ on Sunday 26 August 2007, 05:09:31 PM
Don't really understand this "MMA is better than boxing" lark like.... What do you mean better, and what specifically is better about it than the other? Some fights are more exciting.... Possibly, sometimes so, but not always. In my opinion to say this means you don't understand boxing or appreciate it for what it is. They're too different to compare, and financially MMA is still a long way off the size of boxing as a global spectacle and sport (although the less money involved is not neccessarily a bad thing!).

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 26 August 2007, 06:26:44 PM
Don't really understand this "MMA is better than boxing" lark like.... What do you mean better, and what specifically is better about it than the other? Some fights are more exciting.... Possibly, sometimes so, but not always. In my opinion to say this means you don't understand boxing or appreciate it for what it is. They're too different to compare, and financially MMA is still a long way off the size of boxing as a global spectacle and sport (although the less money involved is not neccessarily a bad thing!).



What's better?  Everything.  Boxing is f***ing boring, too long and has been ruined by criminals such as Don King.  Take the striking of boxing, add everything else in the world of combat sports and you have MMA.  There are so many different ways to win a fight and any fighter has the ability to beat another.  It just takes one mental slip to lose a fight. 

I don't really understand the lark about you giving an opinion on a subject you know nothing about?  Global spectacle, when was the last time a boxing match of importance was held anywhere outside the U.S.?  As for the financial aspect, the UFC will gross more from PPV than boxing this year.  Bet on it. 

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Li3nZ on Monday 27 August 2007, 01:12:07 PM
:)

Sorry if I offended you - I wasn't trying to start some sort of pathetic online war with you. I'm just saying it's a matter of opinion on what you prefer. I personally think boxing requires more nous but that's just my opinion. I have a feeling a lot of these cage fights are between idiots pumped up on roids, with little to zero skill - with the only ability being a psychotic thug. If this works, great. And it sure can be fun to watch. However, you simply couldn't just put one of these idiots in a ring and expect them to be able to box for example. However as you are well aware though boxers can jump ship and be very competitive... this should say sometihng. A real master like Ali has grace, skill, nous, and conditioning. There are many boxers who have small brains but the greatest are not just thugs but clever fighters - it's not so much an all out brawl or grapple on the floor which UFC tends to be.

If you think boxing is "f***ing boring" then you're not the best judge to compare are you! I do watch both, but just can't understand the sudden outburst of people like you who seem to NEED to shout it's better than boxing - why?

As for not knowing anything about the sport, I actually boxed with Empire in Blythe from the ages of 14 - 20 and was a northern junior ABA champion, national finalist, and senior Northern ABA Finalist.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Li3nZ on Monday 27 August 2007, 01:13:49 PM
And another thing I don't understand - why does the governing body of the UFC not allow the drugs monitoring team responsible for all main sports (including boxing - forget the name) regulate their fighers? Does this not make you ask some questions?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Saturday 29 December 2007, 08:59:47 PM
UFC 79 tonight.   Pretty good card with Liddell vs. Silva and Hughes vs. The French Karate God George "Rush" St. Pierre.  I'll be on pins and needles pulling for my fellow Francophone Countryman.  He demolished Hughes last time out, but hasn't had the same amount of time to train as Hughes as Serra had to back out. 

This is probably the biggest card in UFC history, hope it lives up to the billing.  :thup:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 30 December 2007, 08:01:23 AM
Not that anybody cares, but GSP just reassured the masses that he's the best welterweight fighter in the world.  Canaduh!!!  :thup:

Liddell Vs. Silva was a sick fight too!  A good battle to watch. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 30 December 2007, 05:21:41 PM
Not that anybody cares, but GSP just reassured the masses that he's the best welterweight fighter in the world.  Canaduh!!!  :thup:

Liddell Vs. Silva was a sick fight too!  A good battle to watch. 

I'd have loved to have seen Serra vs Hughes, but I think GSP has proved that Hughes isn't the force he used to think he was. Always comes across a complete prick on TV, so wanted Serra to teach him a lesson.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 30 December 2007, 06:21:31 PM
Not that anybody cares, but GSP just reassured the masses that he's the best welterweight fighter in the world.  Canaduh!!!  :thup:

Liddell Vs. Silva was a sick fight too!  A good battle to watch. 

I'd have loved to have seen Serra vs Hughes, but I think GSP has proved that Hughes isn't the force he used to think he was. Always comes across a complete prick on TV, so wanted Serra to teach him a lesson.

Hughes couldn't do anything against GSP, the farm boy was totally outclassed.  In the post fight interview GSP alluded to breaking Hughes arm and that he was sorry if it had popped.  I could tell by the smirk on his face that he was real sorry about it.  ;)

I think you'll still see Serra Vs. Hughes after GSP destroys Serra in the spring.  I could see it being and October retirement fight for both of them. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 31 December 2007, 12:11:40 AM
Devastated the Axe murderer lost. GSP is awesome like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: stozo on Monday 31 December 2007, 12:21:25 AM
The Axe Murderer...now that has to be the coolest nickname in all of sports.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 31 December 2007, 12:22:58 AM
Aye, definately
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Monday 31 December 2007, 12:55:58 AM
The Axe Murderer...now that has to be the coolest nickname in all of sports.

I thought the heavyweight bloke who fought had the best, "The Manic Hispanic".

Here's footage of the GSP fight.  Total domination doesn't even begin to describe how he ripped apart Hughes:

http://www.mmatko.com/georges-st-pierre-vs-matt-hughes-3-fight-video-ufc-79-nemesis/


Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shearergol on Monday 31 December 2007, 02:12:10 PM
Devastated the Axe murderer lost. GSP is awesome like.

Lost 3 out of 3 in the UFC now hasn't he? What is it with all of these Pride fighters looking poor in the cage? (apart from Jackson).

Can't see how Serra can beat GSP unless he catches him with a lucky punch again.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Monday 31 December 2007, 02:53:05 PM
Silva beat Chuck right?

EDIT - Just realised silva's the Axed murderer :blush:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Monday 31 December 2007, 03:07:22 PM
Wanderlei lost 2 fights in pride, and then against chuck in the ufc. I wouldnt say he looked poor to be fair, I thought he was class in the second round.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Monday 31 December 2007, 04:12:11 PM
Wanderlei lost 2 fights in pride, and then against chuck in the ufc. I wouldnt say he looked poor to be fair, I thought he was class in the second round.

He ate some mean shots and gave a focused Liddell a run for his money.  He keeps fighting like that and he'll be back for sure. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dave on Monday 31 December 2007, 04:23:05 PM
There's too much cuddling and rolling around on the floor for my liking.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Monday 31 December 2007, 04:26:05 PM
There's too much cuddling and rolling around on the floor for my liking.

Jesus Wept Dave, you could  have come up with a better cliche than that.   Watch the Liddell Vs. Silva fight, you pounce.  ;)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dave on Monday 31 December 2007, 04:27:39 PM
I didn't mean to start an argument, was just a comment. Whenever I see it they seem to spend a lot of time on the deck simply brawling. That doesn't appeal to me.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Monday 31 December 2007, 04:27:57 PM
Here's a link: http://www.mmatko.com/chuck-liddell-vs-wanderlei-silva-fight-video-ufc-79-nemesis/
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Monday 31 December 2007, 04:30:28 PM
I didn't mean to start an argument, was just a comment. Whenever I see it they seem to spend a lot of time on the deck simply brawling. That doesn't appeal to me.

UFC officials have been forcing them to stand up a lot of the time, if nothing is becoming of the ground game. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Monday 31 December 2007, 04:34:58 PM
Wow, check out this fight with Fedor:  http://www.mmatko.com/fedor-vs-hong-man-choi-fight-video-yarennoka/

Look at the size of the Korean bastid!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 1 January 2008, 12:13:32 AM
Veary please with ufc  79 btw
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: scum on Tuesday 1 January 2008, 12:24:46 PM
Wow, check out this fight with Fedor:  http://www.mmatko.com/fedor-vs-hong-man-choi-fight-video-yarennoka/

Look at the size of the Korean bastid!

did he break his arm at the end?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Tuesday 1 January 2008, 07:51:43 PM
I don't think so, even for a big man like that he'd have been in a lot more pain. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 January 2008, 05:41:11 PM
Saw an advert for Bravo tonight at 9pm, Brock Lesner fighting former champion in his debut MMM fight.

If anyone is interested.

I might give it a watch.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 27 January 2008, 08:23:34 PM
Saw an advert for Bravo tonight at 9pm, Brock Lesner fighting former champion in his debut MMM fight.

If anyone is interested.

I might give it a watch.

Just watch it on youtube mate.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 5 February 2008, 11:19:42 PM
Anyone watch UFC 81???

WWE Style: "YOU TAPPED OUT!, YOU TAPPED OUT!, YOU TAPPED OUT!,

Seriously, I always liked Brock Lesnar from his WWE days and he is an absloute beast, so ferocious, he nearly pummled Frank Mir to death and once he works on defending against submissions he will undoutedly become UFC heavyweight champ over the next couple of years.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: farfrompuken on Tuesday 5 February 2008, 11:36:39 PM
Lesnar showed his inexperience in the end. On a related note Nog is a beast; always takes a beating yet still manages to win (when he's not fighting Fedor!)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 6 February 2008, 01:28:28 AM
I'll be at UFC 83 in April.  Can't wait to see GSP lay a beating on Serra.  I've got know qualms with Serra, but he's owed a beating via GSP.   Oh, Filthy French Women, Montreal in the spring and UFC!!!  Does it get any better? 

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Baggio on Wednesday 3 September 2008, 11:30:54 PM
Biggest fight in UFC history

THE UFC today confirmed Randy Couture will make his Octagon return against Brock Lesnar at UFC 91, as SunSport previously revealed.
Heavyweight champion Couture, 45, resolved his 11-month legal battle with Zuffa – the UFC’s parent company - and penned a new, three-fight contract with the promotion.

He will face former WWE star Lesnar, 31, at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas in what UFC president Dana White says will be “the biggest fight in MMA history”.

The bout will be waged over five rounds and will see Lesnar challenge for Couture’s championship title belt in only his third UFC bout.

White said: “I can tell you this right now ... Couture vs Lesnar will be the biggest fight in UFC history.

“As you all know, we’ve had problems with Randy over the last few months, but we’ve got them all worked out now. Randy has always been our heavyweight champion.”

A previously announced clash between interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Frank Mir, scheduled for December, will determine the next contender for the UFC heavyweight crown.

Both fighters can currently be seen coaching teams of MMA wannabes in The Ultimate Fighter 8, and will fight each other for the interim gold.

The victor will then face the winner of the Lesnar vs Couture fight to determine who is the undisputed UFC heavyweight champion.

White added: “The winner of the Brock-Randy fight will be the heavyweight champion of the UFC.

“Obviously, the reality show is already in motion and Frank Mir and Antonio Nogueira are already scheduled to fight.

"They’ll fight for the interim title and then it will be Champion vs Champion when this thing’s all done. So it’s a pretty interesting little tournament.”

Couture confirmed he has settled his dispute with White and Zuffa and was raring to get back inside the cage.

He said: “”We cleared the air and addressed a lot of the issues, we’re both in a different place, and both the company and myself are trying to move forward.

“I think we understand each other and I certainly would much rather fight in the Octagon than anywhere else.

“Spending the last year in legal fights is not someplace where I’ve had a very good time. At 45, I can’t sit around in court rooms for very long – I want to fight.”

Under the new agreement, the UFC will also attempt to lock down a bout between Couture and No1 ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko in 2009.

The highly anticipated bout has been heralded as the fight of the decade.

White added: “We’re going to do everything we can to make that fight happen.

"Emelianenko’s under contract right now to another promotion and if he becomes available or something works out with that other promotion - obviously everybody knows how crazy we are about protecting our contracts. Well, we would never do that to somebody else."

The Russian ace is believed to have signed a multi-fight deal with UFC rival Affliction, but White ruled out any hope of a co-promotion bout.

But Couture admitted he was pleased to have resolved the matter and was at pains to point out the relationship between him and the UFC had been smoothed over.

He added: “I think a lot of compromises were made on both sides but we’re both ready to try and move forward.

“We’ve cleared the air and we’re both in different places than we were a year ago. Spending the last year in legal fights is not some place that I've had a very good time.”


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/ufc/article1641193.ece
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 3 September 2008, 11:41:12 PM
Don't like UFC much these days, boxing is back.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: jwillie on Thursday 4 September 2008, 12:22:22 AM
Are you serious? Randy v Brock is going to be a great fight!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 4 September 2008, 08:10:15 AM
Nog vs Brock after that fight hopefully
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 4 September 2008, 01:40:19 PM
Couture will win that one pretty easy like, he's past his best but still much too smart a fighter for the gung-ho Lesnar to have any chance.

GSP vs B.J Penn is the fight to be excited about.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Baggio on Thursday 4 September 2008, 03:27:11 PM
Couture will win that one pretty easy like, he's past his best but still much too smart a fighter for the gung-ho Lesnar to have any chance.

GSP vs B.J Penn is the fight to be excited about.

Lesnar will batter him.

Anyone see his last fight (I think) when he came out with the big right hook? :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 4 September 2008, 03:40:04 PM
Fancy a tenner on it?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Baggio on Thursday 4 September 2008, 03:44:33 PM
Fancy a tenner on it?

Go on then.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 4 September 2008, 03:52:57 PM
Cool :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGlxTdAzriM

I expect it to go down pretty much like this. Lesnar has a punchers chance, so to speak. Might pull out a big punch or kick and get a KO, but if he doesn't then eventually he'll walk into something and end up tapping.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Baggio on Thursday 4 September 2008, 03:59:29 PM
Lesnar has improved his awareness since then and I expect the match to go similar to his fight with Heath Herring, Brock to overpower Couture for the whole fight and win by decision.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 4 September 2008, 04:12:02 PM
Couture is on a whole different level to Herring, Lesnar will have to bring a lot more to the table than he did to stand a chance of outclassing Couture.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: farfrompuken on Thursday 4 September 2008, 11:17:56 PM
I think Couture has way too much experience for Lesnar and expect him to win although I wouldn't be surprised if Lesnar pulled it off. Nogueira will beat either of them though imo.

Fedor would destroy (and already has Nogueira) anyone in this 'tournament' though, UFC needs to sign him!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 5 September 2008, 10:48:16 AM
Fancy a tenner on it?

Go on then.

I would also like to bet on Brock.  And im not one of these wwe just started watching UFC people.  I watched it from 1 past pride and to were we are now and in my view brocks pure takedown power is going to destroy randy. :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Geordie Boyo on Friday 5 September 2008, 02:07:56 PM
I didn't mean to start an argument, was just a comment. Whenever I see it they seem to spend a lot of time on the deck simply brawling. That doesn't appeal to me.

Dave, do you ever see two blokes in the street on their feet taking turns in 'bopping' each other like you do in boxing?


When it comes to self-defence, not only is mixed martial arts very effective if you were attacked, but it's expressing the form of fighting in the most realistic way you're going to see in terms of it being a sport.


Brazilian Jujitsu involves over 100 techniques, which a lot of people tend to see as just rolling around & cuddling each other. It's combined with Greco Wrestling, judo & Thai clinches. Boxing & Thai boxing or vale tudo are forms of fighting that also are used within the cage/ring. Each martial art/form of fighting is combined to defend yourself in every way possible. I guess only knowledge would be the key to people getting more out of going to see MMA events and they'd learn to appreciate what these guys do more. A lot of people go because it's classed as blood thirsty CAGE fighting by some fickle journalists, so they expect nothing, but a bare knuckle stand-up war. It's great when you get that, but it's also great when you understand more about what's happening when the fight does go to the ground too.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 6 September 2008, 12:09:51 PM
If you want to watch a great ground fight look for Demian Maia and fights. 


http://www.pancrase.org/demian-maia-vs-jason-macdonald-ufc-87-seek-and-destroy-video/08-10-2008/ (http://www.pancrase.org/demian-maia-vs-jason-macdonald-ufc-87-seek-and-destroy-video/08-10-2008/)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 7 September 2008, 07:38:05 PM
chuck got knocked out COLD.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 7 September 2008, 07:39:40 PM
Saw that, I though UFC was all action but for ages they were just running around the ring trying to avoid each other.

Good punch though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Monday 8 September 2008, 09:45:07 PM
was a sweet KO like, especially considering it was Liddell on the recieving end.
Brock Lesnar VS Randy Courture should be a good fight
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 20 September 2008, 10:10:36 AM
If  we need some more people to joing our table.  About 5 its £40 and waitress service.

(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1171/ss7pk3.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Saturday 15 November 2008, 09:05:16 PM
Lesner vs Corture tonight. Cant wait....
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Baggio on Sunday 16 November 2008, 06:45:11 AM
 :smug:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 16 November 2008, 12:06:29 PM
For f***s sake is this not shown a couple of days later on Bravo anymore?

f***ing hate Setanta with a passion.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 16 November 2008, 05:20:36 PM
Corture's decision to stand with Lesner was weird to say the least. Thought Brock would win it first round tbh.

 I honestly think Dana White just fed Corture to Lesner to get the belt off him asap
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Ketsbaia on Sunday 16 November 2008, 06:09:40 PM
Lesnar woooooo  :celb:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Kimbo on Sunday 16 November 2008, 07:08:01 PM
What a load of guff that was. Are those 2 guys that fought supposed to be good?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 18 November 2008, 05:44:32 PM
What a load of guff that was. Are those 2 guys that fought supposed to be good?

Couture used to be, but he's kind of out of his depth at heavyweight and pretty much past it by all accounts. Still thought he'd beat Lesnar mind, who I still think is nothing special yet. Joke he was getting a title match at this point at all tbh after losing to Mir, even though I understand it from the business point of view for UFC.

Brock better pray that Mir upsets Nogueira, cos I think Brock might win a re-match against Mir. Nogueira will flatten him if it comes down to it though, which it probably will.

UFC's heavyweight division is a joke at the end of the day though, because Fedor would kill pretty much all of them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Rocker on Tuesday 18 November 2008, 05:53:05 PM
Brock's a pure c***. Quicker he get's KO'd the better.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 22 November 2008, 08:19:25 PM
Couture took a wildshot with this game, he hasnt had a big fight in a long time, f***ing hate that Lesnar c*** (hes got a penis tatooed on his chest, wtf), him and the likes of Hong Man Choi etc are just f***ing the game up.

Badr Hari is the future got damnit, he would ruin UFC`ers any day of the week. (not Silva though, noone alive can beat The Spider)

Haha screw all you Brock haters, get it right up yer!!

And btw that penis/sword tattoo on his chest is apparently to symbolise the pressure he felt he was always under as a pro wrestler with the tip of the sword/bell end pointing at his neck.

All hail king Brock!!  :coolsmiley:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: lankybellwipe on Saturday 22 November 2008, 08:23:51 PM
Anyone heard of Lee Shone? He'a a mate of mine, 12 fight 10 wins, and said he's going to Colarado in 2 weeks to fight, didn't mention the challengers name tho?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 22 November 2008, 08:43:15 PM
Anyone heard of Lee Shone? He'a a mate of mine, 12 fight 10 wins, and said he's going to Colarado in 2 weeks to fight, didn't mention the challengers name tho?

This is not another one of your typically ludicrous windups that I have no clue about is it?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: lankybellwipe on Saturday 22 November 2008, 08:56:35 PM
Anyone heard of Lee Shone? He'a a mate of mine, 12 fight 10 wins, and said he's going to Colarado in 2 weeks to fight, didn't mention the challengers name tho?

This is not another one of your typically ludicrous windups that I have no clue about is it?

nope, good friend!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmYCErYPLp4



One of those coming up tho!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 22 November 2008, 09:17:05 PM
Ah I see.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 23 November 2008, 11:35:50 PM
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Lee-Shone-4993 (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Lee-Shone-4993)

Lee 'CYCONE' Shone (born 29 December 1975, Newcastle upon Tyne, England) Shone's father English and his mother Irish. He is a professional mixed martial arts fighter with a fighting record of

His amateur record is 12-0-0 and boxing record of 0/1/0 So really his record is 1-1-0?

Tbh he might be good but the standard of MMA in the UK is canny s*** and looking at the videos etc i would not expect him to be a world beater.  Mind getting into team shamrock is not easy.  long as he can make some cash and have fun  Good luck to him.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Libertine on Wednesday 29 July 2009, 06:06:11 AM
According to The Los Angeles Times, UFC will be announcing at a media conference call this coming Friday that they have signed the world's best Heavyweight mixed-martial arts, Fedor Emelianenko.

This comes off the breaking news that Affliction was cancelling their "Trilogy" show scheduled for this Saturday, and folding the company, returning to UFC as a sponsor.

According to UFC president Dana White, once signed, Fedor will fight Brock Lesnar for the Heavyweight title in his debut. He claims Lesnar won't fight anyone else until he fights Fedor, and the same for Fedor with Lesnar. No tune-up fights for Fedor in the UFC, he'll come in straight against the champion.

If the rumors are correct, we should have confirmation after the conference call this Friday afternoon.

 :omg:


According to a recent Twitter entry by UFC president Dana White, "The Hungtington Beach Bad Boy" is back in the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

White simply "tweeted": "Welcome back Tito" on his Twitter page.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 29 July 2009, 02:05:42 PM
When Fedor pisses in Lesnars wounds maybe he finally will give up that big anabolic asshole.

You mean.. never?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 29 July 2009, 08:47:55 PM
Brock Lesnar could destroy 10 grizzly bears.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hggcraig on Wednesday 29 July 2009, 10:31:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOvtt7xfBA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOvtt7xfBA)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 30 July 2009, 06:59:06 PM
According to The Los Angeles Times, UFC will be announcing at a media conference call this coming Friday that they have signed the world's best Heavyweight mixed-martial arts, Fedor Emelianenko.

This comes off the breaking news that Affliction was cancelling their "Trilogy" show scheduled for this Saturday, and folding the company, returning to UFC as a sponsor.

According to UFC president Dana White, once signed, Fedor will fight Brock Lesnar for the Heavyweight title in his debut. He claims Lesnar won't fight anyone else until he fights Fedor, and the same for Fedor with Lesnar. No tune-up fights for Fedor in the UFC, he'll come in straight against the champion.

If the rumors are correct, we should have confirmation after the conference call this Friday afternoon.

 :omg:


According to a recent Twitter entry by UFC president Dana White, "The Hungtington Beach Bad Boy" is back in the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

White simply "tweeted": "Welcome back Tito" on his Twitter page.

He's not signing for the UFC.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Sunday 9 August 2009, 03:07:11 AM
Has anyone heard of Karl Garrat? He's well hard like, good friend of mine.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 9 August 2009, 03:11:40 AM
Channel?.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 9 August 2009, 03:15:11 AM
f*** ESPN.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 9 August 2009, 07:17:46 PM
How good is Anderson Silva? :lol:

Absolutely humiliated Forrest Griffin last night.

It's a shame he won't fight Machida, if he did I think we'd be looking at the first ever UFC competitor to hold two titles at once.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 9 August 2009, 07:25:14 PM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/34y4azc.gif)

(http://i26.tinypic.com/qpqrrr.gif)

:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 9 August 2009, 10:46:01 PM
Griffin got ridiculed, he gave up ffs  :facepalm:
The Prodigy showed that c*** Florian how it is done.

Im well satisfied with the event.

He was hurt well before that.  No point letting him ground and pound you for a bit more.  One thing you cant question with forest is his hear and toughness
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 9 August 2009, 10:49:27 PM
Aye, I think Forrest was basically on his last legs at that point.

Silva had already knocked him on his ass a couple of times and Forrest knew it'd be over very soon so he just went balls out trying to knock Silva out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Sunday 9 August 2009, 11:54:00 PM
Don't think there is a high enough level of competition or greatness in any of the combat sports atm.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Tuesday 11 August 2009, 07:39:19 PM
fapfapfapfapfap
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 11 August 2009, 08:34:07 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 8 February 2010, 07:30:12 PM
So, anyone watch 109? f*** man, Couture destroyed Coleman. Coleman was so stiff, looked 80 years old!  :lol:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 8 February 2010, 08:09:20 PM
Thiagos win over Swick was awesome, pretty decent event even if it wasn't a crazy one.
Look forward to Rush vs Hardy and Silva vs Belfort

Yeah Thiago was class, did you see those kicks? f*** me they were hard. Enjoyed Marquardt V Sonnen too.

How do you think Bisping will do at 110?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 8 February 2010, 08:41:15 PM
Bispings chin is exposed (got damnit Henderson really murdered him), if "The Axe" get a decent hit i think it will be over in the second round, Bisping needs to work on a good game plan to keep away from those haymakers or he will get knocked out quicker then lightning.
The Velasquez fight is most interesting though, could well be the future of UFC.

That punch that knocked Bisping out would have knocked pretty much anyone out though. I had Bisping edging the fight up until that point. But Yeah, the way Wanderlei comes out swinging, I just cant see how Bisping can avoid getting tagged big time. Hope Im wrong though, hope he can pull out the W.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 8 February 2010, 10:17:37 PM
Anybody found the last two years to be pretty dull? Only a times have I jumped out of my seat screaming. I guess things could heat up again now with Strikeforce making it big (overstatement of the year) and we've got some good fights every time on the WEC cards.

Silva vs. Belfort has me interested, been a fan of Vitor for a few years now like and i'm pretty sure he's got a dynamic enough game to win that fight. Don't be suprised to see him shoot in on Silva neither, people forgot how explosive his takedowns are and just focus on his fists.

Big Nog vs Cain. I'm getting the same vibes from that one as I did before Nogs rematch with Herring. That'll be a top fight that. UFC has certainly got a nice HW roster these days.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 9 February 2010, 02:21:29 AM
Bispings chin is exposed (got damnit Henderson really murdered him), if "The Axe" get a decent hit i think it will be over in the second round, Bisping needs to work on a good game plan to keep away from those haymakers or he will get knocked out quicker then lightning.
The Velasquez fight is most interesting though, could well be the future of UFC.

I think the Henderson fight was a loss that will ultimately make Bisping a better fighter. He was impressive in his last fight and I think he'll do well in his next.

There aren't any fights coming up that have me very interested, except maybe for Mir vs Lesnar part three, if Mir can get past Carwin. Rampage vs. Evans should be interesting too.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 9 February 2010, 02:56:20 AM
Bispings chin is exposed (got damnit Henderson really murdered him), if "The Axe" get a decent hit i think it will be over in the second round, Bisping needs to work on a good game plan to keep away from those haymakers or he will get knocked out quicker then lightning.
The Velasquez fight is most interesting though, could well be the future of UFC.

I think the Henderson fight was a loss that will ultimately make Bisping a better fighter. He was impressive in his last fight and I think he'll do well in his next.
I wouldn't count that fight with Kang atall, he got dropped in the first and didn't mount anything from his back, although his defence was great. He came out in the second round and beat a guy who was already faded out and beat, at the least though it will give Bisping some confidence. The fight with Wanderlei will be his true test though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 19 February 2010, 12:49:27 PM
UFC 110 is up tomorrow night.

Some of these vblogs of Bisping in Australia on his site are quite funny!

http://www.bisping.tv/
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Friday 19 February 2010, 01:49:35 PM
God I hope Bisping gets battered. Should be fun to watch, not likely to be a particularly tactical battle I wouldn't have thought. :lol:

Decent card, no real standout matches but solid all the way through.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 19 February 2010, 03:46:12 PM
Why do you hope Bisping gets battered?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 19 February 2010, 04:53:26 PM
Why do you hope Bisping gets battered?

I dont mind who winS. 

Like bisping beacuse he is from the UK

FUCKIGN LOVE SLIVA BECASUE HE IS SLIVA AND THEREFORE GOD!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Friday 19 February 2010, 04:55:35 PM
I hope Bisping wins, his videos have been really funny and he seems to be a sound guy.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 19 February 2010, 05:39:44 PM
I hope Bisping wins, his videos have been really funny and he seems to be a sound guy.

Silva is the nicest guy is the world...apart from when he is stamping on your face.  Seriously watch any video on youtube about him he is pure class.

http://thecagedoctors.com/2010/02/taking-a-ufc-ring-girl-to-prom-get-advice-from-wanderlei-silva/
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Friday 19 February 2010, 06:36:03 PM
Why do you hope Bisping gets battered?

Because Wanderlei is an absolute MMA icon, while Bisping is just a mouthy gobshite who thinks he's vastly, vastly better than he actually is.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 19 February 2010, 07:00:29 PM
I hope Bisping wins, his videos have been really funny and he seems to be a sound guy.

Silva is the nicest guy is the world...apart from when he is stamping on your face.  Seriously watch any video on youtube about him he is pure class.

http://thecagedoctors.com/2010/02/taking-a-ufc-ring-girl-to-prom-get-advice-from-wanderlei-silva/

I agree. Silva seems like a real stand-up guy. It would be a shame to watch him fall to Bisping.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 19 February 2010, 08:29:25 PM
Why do you hope Bisping gets battered?

Because Wanderlei is an absolute MMA icon, while Bisping is just a mouthy gobshite who thinks he's vastly, vastly better than he actually is.

See this is a view a lot of people have and imo it is complete bullshit. He is a sound bloke. He has a laugh and a joke on but is never overly disrespectful and in the build up to this fight its Silva who has been mouthing off like a tosspot, not Bisping. I didnt even think Bispings actions on TUF US V UK were that bad in all honesty.

Anyways, should be a good scrap, I think Bisping can win as long as he doesnt catch a wild one in the jaw in the opening round. The weight cut is gonna gas Silva big time imo, come midway through the second round if it lasts that long hes going to blowing out of his arse.

But who knows?

"Bring it on, come on!!"
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Friday 19 February 2010, 08:50:14 PM
Did anyone see Silva on UFC Unleashed? showed you how he prepares for a fight. he does this insane 30 minute circuit with only a snorkel to breath out of! i would have died after aout 23 seconds. I think Silva will KO Bisping, i doubt it will be as bad as the Ko when he faught Henderson though, that was just sick not to mention unnessasary.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Friday 19 February 2010, 09:00:10 PM
Its a great card tomorrow like, couple of the fights could be headliners. Ryan Bader vs Jardine should be a good one. Valasquez vs Big Nog should be a great fight, Nog is a legend but Velaquez is coming off a 7-0 win streak although he hasn't fought anyone as significant as Nogueira.

Watch out for UFC fight night 21st March, Jon 'Bones' Jones is fighting, anyone who is new to Ufc or hasn't seen him fight -  the kid is awesome, looks like a future champ from his last few fights and hes only about 22, destroyed stephan bonnar and matt hamill although he was disqualified for an illegal elbow, which is totally gay rule! you can knee someone in the face but you can't elbow straight down on your apponent, elbow has to be at an angle.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Saturday 20 February 2010, 04:12:01 PM
Wandy being a douche leading up to this fights, back to the old days is it Wand? The guy is normally classy, but he has been a w***** in the past and putting some heat on this fight. War Bisping I guess, he needs to win more than Silva.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 21 February 2010, 01:14:28 AM
Sums it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyu6qCnSfw
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 21 February 2010, 12:43:58 PM
Cain Velasquez is a f***ing animal.  Brilliant puncher.  I watched him dominate Cheick Kongo but this fight last night was brutal.  Would love to see him do that to Brock Lesnar.

As for Bisping, he did better than I thought he would, but overall Silva was more nasty and connected with better punches.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 21 February 2010, 12:44:13 PM
Sums it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyu6qCnSfw

very harsh, but very funny too! haha.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 21 February 2010, 06:37:15 PM
Bisping showed he'll never be champion. he doesn't hit hard enough to do any damage.

Silva looked ok for his first fight at 185lb.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 21 February 2010, 08:20:31 PM
Bisping showed he'll never be champion. he doesn't hit hard enough to do any damage.

Silva looked ok for his first fight at 185lb.

Very true about Bisping.  I think he is one of the top 10 in his weight but sadly not one of the top 5.  He's got lucky in the past.  He also punches like he is trying to score points, not to knock someone out.

Bisping needed to get his knee's in to the game but he rarely did.  He needs to train with someone like Dan Henderson, but sadly that will never happen as he hates Bisping.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 21 February 2010, 08:23:57 PM
Bisping got too cautious i think, he should have tried to take Silva to ground more but at the same time Silva defended those pretty decent.
Velasquez is just a heavy hitter, those punches was pure poetry in MMA fighting, massive
Second time only Nog gets knocked out as well.
Baders win was also massive, Jardine is just a difficult opponent to adapt to, such strange style.

I really like Velasquez.  He is not just a heavy hitter! his take downs and ground and pound game is brilliant, did you not see the Check Kongo fight? he just kept picking him up and throwing him to the ground, then beating his face each time he tried to get up. 

Baders win was good, very good left that won it.  I felt sorry for Keith Jardine, he's a very different fighter.  He always has his arms up in a crane sort of fashion.  He then scurrys around like a crab side ways and his footing his very odd, so you can't work out what he is going to do and he catches fighters out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 21 February 2010, 08:41:47 PM
Pretty dull card, all in all..

Velasquez does look a real talent though, seems like he can do it all. Looks the best bet to knock off Lesnar of the current heavyweights IMO.

Bisping - Silva was such a dull fight. Wanderlei doesn't look like he'll be much of a threat to Anderson Silva at 185 from what he showed last night. If you're struggling to beat the likes of Bisping it doesn't really bode well for you in all honesty.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 21 February 2010, 09:04:23 PM
Pretty dull card, all in all..

Velasquez does look a real talent though, seems like he can do it all. Looks the best bet to knock off Lesnar of the current heavyweights IMO.

Bisping - Silva was such a dull fight. Wanderlei doesn't look like he'll be much of a threat to Anderson Silva at 185 from what he showed last night. If you're struggling to beat the likes of Bisping it doesn't really bode well for you in all honesty.

Think that's a bit harsh, the fight wasn't that dull I thought.  I thought Bisping moved very well and countered a lot of Wanderlei's movement.  He won't be a threat to Anderson Silva as he can move even better than Bisping plus he can knock you out without even trying.  I doubt anyone will beat Anderson Silva at UFC unless it's at 205.  Someone like Rashead Evans, Shogun or Machida would be good fight for Anderson Silva as they all move fast and have knock out power.

Mirko Cro Cop vs Lesnar would be good too as he is so strong - however his opponent last night was so poor that perhaps he made him look better than he is.  I'm now a fan of Velasquez after seeing him perform well in a number of fights.  He's one tough and nasty b******!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 21 February 2010, 09:23:11 PM
Machida will never fight Silva though.

I think they are friends and training partners, so yes it probably isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 22 February 2010, 12:55:50 AM
To me it looked like defending that Guillotine at the end of the second round seriously gassed Bisping. From then on he looked pretty much f***ed. I think Bispings height does him no favours against smaller opponents with similar reach. It means his head is always out there, a prime target for the big haymaker. We seen it against Hendo and again against Silva.

Velasquez is a beast. Would love to see him take on Lesnar.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 22 February 2010, 05:52:52 AM
It's a shame that UFC is trying to engineer the Mir vs Lesnar rematch with this unnecessary interim title fight. I think the lineup for a heavyweight title shot should be:

1. Carwin
2. Velasquez
3. Dos Santos

Mir looked good in his last fight, but it was against Cheick Kongo, ffs. A win over Kongo should not have put Mir back into title contention. UFC are just praying that Mir gets past Carwin because people want to see him fight Lesnar again. Velasquez vs Lesnar is a much more interesting fight, I think.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 22 February 2010, 08:43:22 AM
Pretty dull card, all in all..

Velasquez does look a real talent though, seems like he can do it all. Looks the best bet to knock off Lesnar of the current heavyweights IMO.

Bisping - Silva was such a dull fight. Wanderlei doesn't look like he'll be much of a threat to Anderson Silva at 185 from what he showed last night. If you're struggling to beat the likes of Bisping it doesn't really bode well for you in all honesty.

Thought it was a great card myself?? Best since 100.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 22 February 2010, 12:46:24 PM
Pretty dull card, all in all..

Velasquez does look a real talent though, seems like he can do it all. Looks the best bet to knock off Lesnar of the current heavyweights IMO.

Bisping - Silva was such a dull fight. Wanderlei doesn't look like he'll be much of a threat to Anderson Silva at 185 from what he showed last night. If you're struggling to beat the likes of Bisping it doesn't really bode well for you in all honesty.

Thought it was a great card myself?? Best since 100.



Someone always says the card is dull....What would you say was a none dull card?

The bonner fights is maybe one of the best this year.  We got to see some great Rubber gard BJJ and see some quality striking from a top HW contender......
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: the_guv_nor on Monday 22 February 2010, 07:10:48 PM
Pretty dull card, all in all..

Velasquez does look a real talent though, seems like he can do it all. Looks the best bet to knock off Lesnar of the current heavyweights IMO.

Bisping - Silva was such a dull fight. Wanderlei doesn't look like he'll be much of a threat to Anderson Silva at 185 from what he showed last night. If you're struggling to beat the likes of Bisping it doesn't really bode well for you in all honesty.

Thought it was a great card myself?? Best since 100.



I agree, it was a great card. couple of KO's, a sick leg lock and a few TKO's couldn't have asked for more in terms of entertainment and there was alot of big fighters on the card.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 21 March 2010, 08:12:36 PM
Just a heads up, UFC LIVE Vera Vs Jones on ESPN tonight!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 22 March 2010, 06:07:13 PM
That was a hell of an elbow which finished Vera. Ouch.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 22 March 2010, 08:32:47 PM
Dos Santos is a tank like, he should be head and shoulders above Mir and Carwin for a title shot.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 22 March 2010, 08:43:05 PM
Vera  :facepalm:

he will never become something, all talk.
It's not like he did anything wrong in that fight, not many people will stop Jones takedowns and that elbow was as clean as it could get. Vera is still good talent, don't give up on him yet.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 22 March 2010, 08:54:53 PM
Jones is going to be one of the greats if he keeps it all on track, for a 22 year old he's unbelieveable.

Vera is just a journeyman anyway, the only person worth anything he's ever beaten was Mir, and that was f***ing years ago.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 22 March 2010, 09:10:50 PM
Anyone been watching the GSP V Hardy UFC Primetime show? Its quality, I always love these kind of shows. Helps me get pumped for a fight!! Its a 2 parter but only episode one seems to be up so far on youtube in any decent quality.

Ep 1. Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2hPgrQRdHo

Ep 1 Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWIdFBrA5c
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 22 March 2010, 09:27:20 PM
It's almost sad to watch that video of Hardy.

Poor b******.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 22 March 2010, 09:40:25 PM
Hardy will go shaolin monk on GSP's ass. Can't wait.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 22 March 2010, 09:43:12 PM
As we all know, Hardy will most likely get ass raped but as he is a Brit I am hoping that he can find one lucky punch and shock the world!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 22 March 2010, 09:54:34 PM
I've seen loads of Vera fights, and he never impress me.
he's jumping to much up and down in the division cutting weight and s***.
he should stick to one
He's only ever been a HW and LHW, and he's never jumped those weights, he's stuck to one or the other. You're talking cack.

And everybody counting Hardy out, people did that against Serra and Matt Hughes, and look what happened there. He got finished in both. Hardy has that solid power, great great boxing isn't scared atall of GSP, smells like an upset could be in order.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 22 March 2010, 09:55:12 PM
but that is what all people say before GSP's fights, it never works.

GSP is like Silva, you just can't break them, their mental game is too far advanced then rest of the fighters which is a great part of their games, the mental part.

im no particular fan of GSP, but he's a machine

GSP is class. No doubts. But he can still catch one on the chin again. The odds are against this, obviously. But it can happen.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 22 March 2010, 10:03:16 PM
I've seen loads of Vera fights, and he never impress me.
he's jumping to much up and down in the division cutting weight and s***.
he should stick to one
He's only ever been a HW and LHW, and he's never jumped those weights, he's stuck to one or the other. You're talking cack.

And everybody counting Hardy out, people did that against Serra and Matt Hughes, and look what happened there. He got finished in both. Hardy has that solid power, great great boxing isn't scared atall of GSP, smells like an upset could be in order.

so your saying Vera hasn't cut weight before?  :lol:

you amuse me
No. I said he's never jumped between weights like you claimed, I said he's fought at LHW and HW but only stuck to one weight at a time.

Your posts amuse me, clown.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 22 March 2010, 10:31:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=267i7rKeECA

He'll need something like this to happen, in all honesty.

GSP needs to stop being a c*** and put on 15 pounds and try and fight Anderson.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 09:31:20 AM
Jon Jones is a class act like!!

How do yo fight a guy like that?? great stand up , great take downs & so unpredictable.

Would like to see him fight a big hitter next, someone like V. Belfort or Thiago Silvia.

Vera is a good fight IMO he got robbed against Randy Couture & as someone said he didn't do to much wrong in this fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 09:39:46 AM
I'm watching UFC ON VERSUS tonight like. I'll report back. I'm noticing lots of thread activity so lets hope it was monumental.

Watched the first fight already, not exactly a classic.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 11:43:05 AM
Part 2 of the GSP V Hardy primetime show is on the website:

http://uk.ufc.com/

Just scroll along and click on Hardy's face.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 11:50:53 AM
Was a boring card all around, can't wait for the Hardy vs. GSP, that will be a f***ing classic.

very amped for that one

Thought it was a good card  (considering it was not a PPV ) the fights were not the best but it was still a pretty stacked card..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 11:54:11 AM
Was a boring card all around, can't wait for the Hardy vs. GSP, that will be a f***ing classic.

very amped for that one

Thought it was a good card  (considering it was not a PPV ) the fights were not the best but it was still a pretty stacked card..

Yeah, it was like a 'diet' PPV.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 11:56:49 AM
I felt sorry for Buentello against Kongo. It was basically a flabby guy from the local pub who'd just had 3 pints and a packet of crisps up against an absolute chiseled monster.  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 12:32:28 PM
He gave his all though, but those elbows are just mean.

Kongo is trying to develope his gameplan it seems, he's not only out to brawl anymore.

Yeah, dont get me wrong, total respect to Buentello, he took one hell of a beating. If I was across the octagon from Kongo I'd tap straight away from the first bell. f*** that for a laugh!  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 01:24:36 PM
Kongo will never be anything else but a gatekeeper in the heavyweight division.

Who's your money on between Mir & Carwin??

Think mir will take this one, although Carwin hits like a bus!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 01:27:27 PM
Kongo will never be anything else but a gatekeeper in the heavyweight division.

Who's your money on between Mir & Carwin??

Think mir will take this one, although Carwin hits like a bus!!

Carwin has hands like anvils. Mir will do well not to get ko'd tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 01:48:24 PM
I think Mir is one of the best strikers in the UFC but like you say it just takes one to land from Carwin..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 05:57:37 PM
You all suck.

I expected something massive from that UFC on versus s*** because of all the chatter, but all the fights were mediocre as s***.

When Vera was downed I thought he was gonna have some massive nasty injury or something just because of all this chatter. HMPH
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 06:38:41 PM
You all suck.

I expected something massive from that UFC on versus s*** because of all the chatter, but all the fights were mediocre as s***.

When Vera was downed I thought he was gonna have some massive nasty injury or something just because of all this chatter. HMPH

Massive nasty injury? He's fractured his face in 3 places apparently!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 07:20:07 PM
Hmm. I suppose that'll do.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 10:37:04 PM
You all suck.

I expected something massive from that UFC on versus s*** because of all the chatter, but all the fights were mediocre as s***.

When Vera was downed I thought he was gonna have some massive nasty injury or something just because of all this chatter. HMPH
Happens every time the UFC try and hype a free card, they put fights on that are brawling strikers that they think will put on Griffin vs. Bonnar style fights but it just never happens.

I think Mir is one of the best strikers in the UFC but like you say it just takes one to land from Carwin..
Wow. He's only looked great striking once, against a slow and horrible looking Big Nog. I wouldn't get too carried away yet.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 March 2010, 10:40:23 PM
You all suck.

I expected something massive from that UFC on versus s*** because of all the chatter, but all the fights were mediocre as s***.

When Vera was downed I thought he was gonna have some massive nasty injury or something just because of all this chatter. HMPH
Happens every time the UFC try and hype a free card, they put fights on that are brawling strikers that they think will put on Griffin vs. Bonnar style fights but it just never happens.

I actually meant after the event. I downloaded it but hadn't watched it, yet the UFC thread seemed to be getting bumped a lot. Therefore I assumed something mad had happened. Hmph. It's more of a UFC 111 hype thread atm really. Not such a bad thing. Looking forward to Mir vs Carwin. GSP will be good, but he'll just deal out his standard raping.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Wednesday 24 March 2010, 09:00:44 AM
You all suck.

I expected something massive from that UFC on versus s*** because of all the chatter, but all the fights were mediocre as s***.

When Vera was downed I thought he was gonna have some massive nasty injury or something just because of all this chatter. HMPH
Happens every time the UFC try and hype a free card, they put fights on that are brawling strikers that they think will put on Griffin vs. Bonnar style fights but it just never happens.

I think Mir is one of the best strikers in the UFC but like you say it just takes one to land from Carwin..
Wow. He's only looked great striking once, against a slow and horrible looking Big Nog. I wouldn't get too carried away yet.
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Err what about against Kongo?? he was picking him off every time?

Nog defo wasn't at his best when he fought him, But Mir demolished him man.. 1st time nog had ever been stopped!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Friday 26 March 2010, 12:29:28 AM
You all suck.

I expected something massive from that UFC on versus s*** because of all the chatter, but all the fights were mediocre as s***.

When Vera was downed I thought he was gonna have some massive nasty injury or something just because of all this chatter. HMPH
Happens every time the UFC try and hype a free card, they put fights on that are brawling strikers that they think will put on Griffin vs. Bonnar style fights but it just never happens.

I think Mir is one of the best strikers in the UFC but like you say it just takes one to land from Carwin..
Wow. He's only looked great striking once, against a slow and horrible looking Big Nog. I wouldn't get too carried away yet.
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Err what about against Kongo?? he was picking him off every time?

Nog defo wasn't at his best when he fought him, But Mir demolished him man.. 1st time nog had ever been stopped!

In the Kongo fight, I just seem to remember Mir landing one decent punch that was big enough to end it as a contest (big power doesn't mean good striking). And, Kongo isn't a great stiker by all mean, from what i've seen of his muay thai rules fights were shocking.

Nog was just plain awful, and full of staph.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 28 March 2010, 06:13:16 PM
Well, that was a downer. I thought the event took place today. It's not you fault mattis, but f*** f*** f*** f*** f***! :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 28 March 2010, 06:18:21 PM
f***ing hell Mir got rocked, those hands of Carwin is impressive like.

And Hardy, what a fighter he is, i can say that 99% of the fighters out there would have tapped.

Warrior heart, but GSP is just to athletic that it is insane, f***ing insane it is.

Who's gonna stop GSP, who?

Carwin is f***ing scary. I epxected Mir to win that to be honest, seeing Mir get rocked like that and slowly go to the ground was pretty shocking. Ref took his time too.

Hardy is ridiculous too, quite how he went through all that for 5 rounds is beyond me. GSP isn't gonna be beat by anyone unless he moves up, and even then it's questionable.

Well, that was a downer. I thought the event took place today. It's not you fault mattis, but f*** f*** f*** f*** f***! :lol:

Gutter. UFC = Saturday's, like, always. (Apart from the midweek affairs like)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 28 March 2010, 06:18:44 PM
I know, and I will remember not to check this thread next time, I just had to vent my frustration somewhere. Should be a good event even though I know the outcome of the two main events.  O0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 28 March 2010, 06:19:58 PM
I know, and I will remember not to check this thread next time, I just had to vent my frustration somewhere. Should be a good event even though I know the outcome of the two main events.  O0

Well leave this thread now before more detail is discussed! Go on, shoo!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 28 March 2010, 10:00:50 PM
Not bad UFC.  Carwin has a lot of power!  Thought GSP was excellent, Hardy did well to last 5 rounds with him.  Thought that Nate did well too.  Thought that Palhares was well naughty keeping hold of that heel hook after tap out and wrecking the poor guys knee. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 28 March 2010, 10:40:26 PM
Not bad UFC.  Carwin has a lot of power!  Thought GSP was excellent, Hardy did well to last 5 rounds with him.  Thought that Nate did well too.  Thought that Palhares was well naughty keeping hold of that heel hook after tap out and wrecking the poor guys knee. 

he should almost be fined for that one, he was way out of order on that one

I have a bit of sympathy for his situation. Wanting to wait for the referee to stop it and all.

Carwin amazed me. I knew he was 11-0 coming into that fight, but I just didn't see it coming. The question now is where does Mir go from here? He worked so hard to try to bridge the gap in size and strength with this new breed of heavyweights, and he was completely out powered and dominated by Carwin.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 29 March 2010, 12:13:26 AM
I was fully expecting Lesnar to conduct some interference wwe style when he stepped into the octagon after the Mir fight. Maybe land a heelish F5 on Carwin or something :lol:


Don't know if it's normal for a champion to come and "trash talk" after a fight like that. Im pretty new to UFC, but I found it funny.

Was pretty painful to watch the GSP vs Hardy fight. Hardy had nothing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 29 March 2010, 12:21:27 AM
Carwin is wicked scary like. I thought Lesnar looked terrible at ringside. That serious illness will surely have a massive impact on him and I can see Carwin KO'ing Lesnar if he's not careful. Should be class though.

GSP is just f***ing class. What can you say about him? Awesome fighter, great bloke too.

Its a wierd situation for Hardy. He got completely dominated but showed immense heart and how in the hell he never tapped out twice was f***ing unbelievable. Crazy submission escapes. Despite being completely dominated in the fight, In terms of his popularity with the American fans I think tonight was a massive turning point for him. The extreme toughness he showed coupled with his class towards GSP after the fight will have just earned him a whole lot of respect and many new fans.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 29 March 2010, 08:38:38 AM
I was fully expecting Lesnar to conduct some interference wwe style when he stepped into the octagon after the Mir fight. Maybe land a heelish F5 on Carwin or something :lol:


Don't know if it's normal for a champion to come and "trash talk" after a fight like that. Im pretty new to UFC, but I found it funny.

Was pretty painful to watch the GSP vs Hardy fight. Hardy had nothing.


It really isn't the case that Hardy has nothing, it's basically just that GSP has f***ing everything. Nobody at welterweight even has a chance against him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 29 March 2010, 11:53:10 AM
I was fully expecting Lesnar to conduct some interference wwe style when he stepped into the octagon after the Mir fight. Maybe land a heelish F5 on Carwin or something :lol:


Don't know if it's normal for a champion to come and "trash talk" after a fight like that. Im pretty new to UFC, but I found it funny.

Was pretty painful to watch the GSP vs Hardy fight. Hardy had nothing.


It really isn't the case that Hardy has nothing, it's basically just that GSP has f***ing everything. Nobody at welterweight even has a chance against him.

Exactly, the only way we may have seen a different outcome in this fight is if it were a kickboxing match instead.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 29 March 2010, 11:56:33 AM
Brits Ross Pearson (mackem!) and Andre winner are fighting on wednesday night at UFC fight night. Can anyone shed any light on their opponents? I honestly know very little about them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 29 March 2010, 02:03:02 PM
I was fully expecting Lesnar to conduct some interference wwe style when he stepped into the octagon after the Mir fight. Maybe land a heelish F5 on Carwin or something :lol:


Don't know if it's normal for a champion to come and "trash talk" after a fight like that. Im pretty new to UFC, but I found it funny.

Was pretty painful to watch the GSP vs Hardy fight. Hardy had nothing.


It really isn't the case that Hardy has nothing, it's basically just that GSP has f***ing everything. Nobody at welterweight even has a chance against him.

I just listened to an interview over at sherdog.com where Hardy figured that he wasn't overwhelmed by GSP. Truthfully, I don't know what fight he thought he was in. I was impressed by his toughness in not tapping and in his submission defence in general, but he clearly wasn't ready to fight someone of GSP's caliber.

What about this Paul Daley kid? He's fighting Koscheck in my neck of the woods in a couple months. Does anyone here think he has what it takes to get past Koscheck and be a reasonable challenger for the title?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 29 March 2010, 03:32:15 PM
I'm gonna say yes, but I've also never been impressed by Koscheck. Daley is only ever gonna be a top boxer to be honest, whether that's enough, we'll see.

He f***ing wiped the floor with Dustin Hazelett though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 29 March 2010, 08:29:45 PM
Brits Ross Pearson (mackem!) and Andre winner are fighting on wednesday night at UFC fight night. Can anyone shed any light on their opponents? I honestly know very little about them.
Pearson is fighting Dennis Siver, who is a very dynamic striker and holds some serious power. I wouldn't be worried though because his MMA game is very weak, his gas tank isn't there and he's not a very smart fighter. He still has that one punch power though.

Winner has an easier fight in my opinion, while Rafaello Oliveira is dangerous on the mat I don't think he'll get it there. Winner is stronger, faster, smarter and has the foot work to stumble Rafaellos takedown attempt. It'll take time, but i'm sure Winner will get the TKO after he wears Oliveira down.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 29 March 2010, 08:51:23 PM
Sherdog.com ranks Paul Daley as the 7th best Welterweight.

He needs to make sure he makes weight against Koscheck mind.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 29 March 2010, 09:05:47 PM
Sherdog.com ranks Paul Daley as the 7th best Welterweight.

He needs to make sure he makes weight against Koscheck mind.
A win here really puts him in there for a shot at the title like, I didn't think much of him before his UFC stint but he's been looking on fire lately. He's always had the power, but I like how calm he's looked and the way he has shrugged off takedown attempts has just been great. He offers something alittle different from Hardy I think, giving that he will push forward and throw rather than waiting for the counter.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 30 March 2010, 05:41:52 AM
Not bad UFC.  Carwin has a lot of power!  Thought GSP was excellent, Hardy did well to last 5 rounds with him.  Thought that Nate did well too.  Thought that Palhares was well naughty keeping hold of that heel hook after tap out and wrecking the poor guys knee. 

he should almost be fined for that one, he was way out of order on that one

He has been given a 3 month ban apparently. Don't know if that's much, but seeing as fighters are given a one month ban for lacerations I guess he came out rather lucky?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 30 March 2010, 09:04:52 AM
Well done Dan Hardy..
Showed great heart & a lot of balls in that fight.

GSP is really starting to do my head in now, He's scared to stand all he does is look for the take down time after time.. (don't get me wrong he's class & he's great at what he does just wish he would stand & bang a bit).

Time to move up I think!

Carwin looked immense, I would of put money on Mir beating him but he just got manhandled.

I was impressed with Ricardo Almadia Really like him looked a class act.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 30 March 2010, 04:36:55 PM
Well done Dan Hardy..
Showed great heart & a lot of balls in that fight.

GSP is really starting to do my head in now, He's scared to stand all he does is look for the take down time after time.. (don't get me wrong he's class & he's great at what he does just wish he would stand & bang a bit).

Time to move up I think!

Carwin looked immense, I would of put money on Mir beating him but he just got manhandled.

I was impressed with Ricardo Almadia Really like him looked a class act.

I think GSP is being done in by a lack of competition. It's good for the fans to watch people get knocked out, but I don't think that someone in his position is obligated to risk his health for no reason. Why should he trade punches when he doesn't have to? His goal is to win his fights and not have his career shortened.

On your other point, I agree with you, though. GSP needs to move up a weight class. He needs to start fighting people who can legitimately beat him so he's forced to take some risks. Until someone can force him to take those risks, we can't blame him for not taking them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 30 March 2010, 05:07:44 PM
Well done Dan Hardy..
Showed great heart & a lot of balls in that fight.

GSP is really starting to do my head in now, He's scared to stand all he does is look for the take down time after time.. (don't get me wrong he's class & he's great at what he does just wish he would stand & bang a bit).

Time to move up I think!

Carwin looked immense, I would of put money on Mir beating him but he just got manhandled.

I was impressed with Ricardo Almadia Really like him looked a class act.

I think GSP is being done in by a lack of competition. It's good for the fans to watch people get knocked out, but I don't think that someone in his position is obligated to risk his health for no reason. Why should he trade punches when he doesn't have to? His goal is to win his fights and not have his career shortened.

On your other point, I agree with you, though. GSP needs to move up a weight class. He needs to start fighting people who can legitimately beat him so he's forced to take some risks. Until someone can force him to take those risks, we can't blame him for not taking them.

Oh I agree with you, if I was GSP I would do exactly the same thing.
It just isn't the best to watch. GSP has great stand up just wish he would use it more..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 1 April 2010, 02:24:17 PM
WARNING. This post contains UFC fight night spoilers!!!!


Thought Pearson looked quality. I've been impressed with him ever since TUF and he just keeps on improving.

Big Country is a beast, man, what a KO.

Even though the hilarious power cut made me miss the last round and a half of Florians fight, he was in supreme control and made Gomi look like an amateur!

I didn't see it as it was a prelim but good to hear Winner won a convincing decision!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 10 April 2010, 02:02:27 AM
About time to pull this one up again. How about some predictions for the main card?

Anderson Silva (c) vs.  Demian Maia - Anderson by K.O in the 2nd round

BJ Penn (c) vs.  Frank Edgar - BJ Penn by submission in the 3rd round

Matt Hughes vs.  Renzo Gracie - Hughes by K.O in the 1st round

Terry Etim vs.  Rafael dos Anjos - Never seen any of them fight, so I have no clue. I guess Rafael two years will win by desicion.

Kendall Grove vs.  Mark Munoz - Grove by desicion.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 10 April 2010, 09:21:25 AM
About time to pull this one up again. How about some predictions for the main card?

Anderson Silva (c) vs.  Demian Maia - Anderson by K.O in the 2nd round

BJ Penn (c) vs.  Frank Edgar - BJ Penn by submission in the 3rd round

Matt Hughes vs.  Renzo Gracie - Hughes by K.O in the 1st round

Terry Etim vs.  Rafael dos Anjos - Never seen any of them fight, so I have no clue. I guess Rafael two years will win by desicion.

Kendall Grove vs.  Mark Munoz - Grove by desicion.


Matt Hughes is never going to KO anyone.  3 round ground and pound bet you £10 :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 10 April 2010, 11:58:51 AM
Should be a good card, nice to have a UFC event on at a reasonable time of the day for once!

Silva talking about cutting down to 170 so he can fight GSP, yet in the same breath saying he's interested in fighting at LHW nd even Heavyweight.

The guy is just unreal. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 10 April 2010, 07:58:56 PM
Penn looking far from convincing.

4 rounds in, I missed the first round and a half but from what Ive seen since there's been little to choose between the two.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 10 April 2010, 08:07:55 PM
Holy s***!!

New champion.

Won by unanimous decision.

50-45, 49-46, 48-47.

 :kasper:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 10 April 2010, 08:30:44 PM
While Silva is standing in front of Maia, with his hands casually hanging by his side inviting Maia to hit him.

Goldberg - "The first thing they teach you in MMA is to keep your hands up at all times."

Joe Rogan - " The first thing they should teach you is not to fight Anderson Silva."

:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: GAMMELL on Saturday 10 April 2010, 08:36:07 PM
That Silva dude is a right c*** of a man.  :lol:

Such a non-event this
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 10 April 2010, 08:54:38 PM
Silva basically goes Neo on it for two and a half rounds then just completely runs out of steam and limps home. :lol:

s*** fight, crowd aren't liking Anderson at all.

Still, win sets up the GSP fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: GAMMELL on Saturday 10 April 2010, 08:58:49 PM
That was an abysmal fight

Hope Rush burys the f***er.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Saturday 10 April 2010, 09:22:53 PM
Penn got robbed there I thought, landed much more effective stikes man. Anderson is starting to put a damper on the middleweight division now like, just swtiches off every fight. I'm hoping Sonnen will beat him actually, Silva won't be stopping that takedown.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 10 April 2010, 09:55:07 PM
I'm hoping Sonnen will beat him actually, Silva won't be stopping that takedown.

:lol:

Seriously, are you mad?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 12:50:32 AM
Penn got robbed there I thought, landed much more effective stikes man. Anderson is starting to put a damper on the middleweight division now like, just swtiches off every fight. I'm hoping Sonnen will beat him actually, Silva won't be stopping that takedown.

There's no way Penn won that fight. The Answer was f***ing class tonight I thought like.

Silva just pisses me off big time tbh. I am firmly in the corner of GSP if it happens. Would love him to do the f***er.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 11 April 2010, 01:03:15 AM
Hardly Silva's fault that people essentially s*** themselves every time they get in the ring with him.

Forrest is the only guy who has really gone in and tried to attack, and Silva made him look like an idiot.

It'll be interesting to see how he does cutting so much weight.

Pound for pound he's much better than GSP IMO, not sure at his height cutting down to 170 is so smart though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 01:30:32 AM
Hardly Silva's fault that people essentially s*** themselves every time they get in the ring with him.

Forrest is the only guy who has really gone in and tried to attack, and Silva made him look like an idiot.

It'll be interesting to see how he does cutting so much weight.

Pound for pound he's much better than GSP IMO, not sure at his height cutting down to 170 is so smart though.

Then why didn't Silva take a risk with a few combos and knock Maia out?!?! He basically gassed himself showboating in the humidity and had nothing left by the end of the 3rd.

As for the GSP fight, in the interests of fairness I think that it should be a catchweight fight at 175 or 177 or so. But, it seems like Silva wants the fight more so he may have to cut to 170. He has fought many times at that weight before I believe and even at 165 too but that was 12 years ago.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 11 April 2010, 01:33:33 AM
Penn got robbed there I thought, landed much more effective stikes man. Anderson is starting to put a damper on the middleweight division now like, just swtiches off every fight. I'm hoping Sonnen will beat him actually, Silva won't be stopping that takedown.

There's no way Penn won that fight. The Answer was f***ing class tonight I thought like.
At closer inspection, it's closer than you give it credit for. Edgar just looked alittle more busy due to all the faints and movement he put on. I won't argue he offical decision though because Penn could have stole the last two rounds if he listened to his corner and took him down.

I'm hoping Sonnen will beat him actually, Silva won't be stopping that takedown.

:lol:

Seriously, are you mad?
Bet you said that before the Nate Marquardt fight. I didn't say he would beat him, I said I hope he will and i'm pretty sure Sonnen can take Silva down and keep him down, it's a question if he has the discipline in his technique to do this over 5 rounds.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 01:36:14 AM
Edgar also scored 2 takedowns to Penn's none. Takedowns score big points.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 11 April 2010, 01:39:53 AM
Edgar also scored 2 takedowns to Penn's none. Takedowns score big points.
Takedowns used to score big points 4-5 years ago, not so much now. They certainly score points but not BIG points, BJ either stood back after straight away or Edgar got straight back up so it kind of negated the whole takedown if you ask me but nobody ever agrees on MMA scoring anyway.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 11 April 2010, 10:15:50 AM
Just finished watching UFC 112.  Ok, firstly Anderson Silva was a let down and I love watching him so it's really frustrating to wait so long to see him and the fight be poor.  For 2 and a half rounds Anderson Silva looked fast and strong but had a lot of time between exchanges.  He then showed his frustration tried to taunt Maia to come and attack.  The irony was that in rounds 4 and 5 Andersn Silva became a complete hypocrite and ran away himself.  I wasn't sure if Silva was tired or just being a dick really, he may have been trying to play act tired to lure Maia in.  When Silva was still attacking he did throw a couple great shots from strange angles and with excellent and unique foot work.  Anderson Silva makes out he wants to fight but really he is a counter-puncher and doesn't like throwing first and it's showed in a lot of fights.  I think it's 99% certain that if Silva went for him with a sustained attack he would have knocked him out but he just didn't.  I really want to see the GSP vs Silva fight, think GSP has the potential to win that won.

The other fights were pretty good.  I didn't think BJ Penn lost that fight.  All I saw was Penn landing the better shots? I thought Frankie Edgar showed some great speed and determination but didn't think he was better than Penn.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 10:55:20 AM
How can people think that Penn didn't lose that fight?!??

While I agree that he landed the more powerful and measured punches, they were not too many and Edgar certainly landed his fair share going by the state of BJ's face. Add to this the kicks, the takedowns and the fact that Edgar was clearly the fresher man in the last two rounds with BJ flagging pretty obviously then there really could have only been one winner.

Did anyone see Gracie wearing the Man City top?!?? I know its to do with the Arabs owning city but what a glory hunting b******!!! :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 11 April 2010, 11:01:03 AM
How can people think that Penn didn't lose that fight?!??


I've only watched it once and I felt that Penn won.  I need to see it again and pay more attention to what Edgar did I guess, perhaps I will change my view.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 11:14:29 AM
Im not saying that it wasnt a close fight but Edgar landed by far the more eye catching stuff and as we know rightly or wrongly, being the more eye catching fighter counts for a lot in fights that go to decision.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 11 April 2010, 12:09:06 PM
Bet you said that before the Nate Marquardt fight. I didn't say he would beat him, I said I hope he will and i'm pretty sure Sonnen can take Silva down and keep him down, it's a question if he has the discipline in his technique to do this over 5 rounds.

Nate Marquardt and Anderson Silva are absolutely worlds apart, that he can beat a journeyman like Marquardt says nothing for his ability to fight Silva.

Barring some sort of in-match heart defect striking Silva down, there's no way I can see him losing at MW, particularly to another middle of the road fighter like Sonnen.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 11 April 2010, 12:11:24 PM
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Then why didn't Silva take a risk with a few combos and knock Maia out?!?!

Cos he's smart.

You don't get to 11-0 in the octagon taking stupid risks trying to force a knockout in a fight that you have won anyway.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 12:52:34 PM
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Then why didn't Silva take a risk with a few combos and knock Maia out?!?!

Cos he's smart.

You don't get to 11-0 in the octagon taking stupid risks trying to force a knockout in a fight that you have won anyway.

Hmm ok. He should have finished the fight though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 01:18:13 PM
Check out the Dana White post show press conference. He slams AS big style!! He's well p*ssed off!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 11 April 2010, 02:18:36 PM
Aye, that was pretty scathing tbf.

Sounds like GSP-Silva is a no go now, which is a shame.

Really think the only thing to do with Silva now is put him in with some heavyweight fighters and see how he does. Mir has said he'd like to fight Silva, and Silva has said he'll fight in any of the 4 weight divisions other than Lightweight. Start with that.

Dana needs to shoulder some blame for this whole thing too btw, and I think that's a big part of why he's being so aggressive in his attack on Silva. Putting him in the ring with fighters like Maia is essentially pointless. He's ripping Silva for not going out and destroying people in Tyson-esque fashion but you can't expect guys to go out and basically abandon their entire style of fighting just because you want them to put on a show. When Belfort couldn't go they should have found him a LHW or HW to fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 11 April 2010, 02:33:43 PM
Just saw an interesting theory on another site actually.

Guy reckons this was deliberately done by Silva so White would start giving him some bigger profile fights.

Silva has a contract for 8 fights, after that he'll be retiring. He has said he wants to create his legacy as the best ever in those 8 fights, and that's not something he'll do fighting the likes of Maia.

Makes sense really if you look at how Silva went about the Maia fight.

2 rounds of basically taking the p*ss to illustrate how much better he is than his opponent, then 3 rounds of turning the fight into a snoozefest so White won't put him in there with any more fighters like Maia for fear of it happening again.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 11 April 2010, 02:44:27 PM
Just saw an interesting theory on another site actually.

Guy reckons this was deliberately done by Silva so White would start giving him some bigger profile fights.

Silva has a contract for 8 fights, after that he'll be retiring. He has said he wants to create his legacy as the best ever in those 8 fights, and that's not something he'll do fighting the likes of Maia.

Makes sense really if you look at how Silva went about the Maia fight.

2 rounds of basically taking the p*ss to illustrate how much better he is than his opponent, then 3 rounds of turning the fight into a snoozefest so White won't put him in there with any more fighters like Maia for fear of it happening again.
He's already dissmissed that, truth is the man is such a loose cannon nobody knows what he is going to do in his fights or his career.

Bet you said that before the Nate Marquardt fight. I didn't say he would beat him, I said I hope he will and i'm pretty sure Sonnen can take Silva down and keep him down, it's a question if he has the discipline in his technique to do this over 5 rounds.

Nate Marquardt and Anderson Silva are absolutely worlds apart, that he can beat a journeyman like Marquardt says nothing for his ability to fight Silva.

Barring some sort of in-match heart defect striking Silva down, there's no way I can see him losing at MW, particularly to another middle of the road fighter like Sonnen.
You cannot deny that it is a bad match up for Silva though. Many thought Nate was a much better wrestler and grappler than Silva and Sonnen dominated in that area. All he needs to do is avoid the stand up and get into range for a takedown and he will steal this fight but that's obviously easier said than done.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 03:24:56 PM
Why does it sound like Silva-GSP is a no go now like, Shak?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 03:30:36 PM
Is the new series of TUF on British TV anywhere? I cant seem to find it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 11 April 2010, 03:39:38 PM
Why does it sound like Silva-GSP is a no go now like, Shak?

Dana said "I don't wanna see that now" in one of his interviews after the fight last night.

With fans turning against Silva, the last thing he wants is GSP losing to Anderson and having such a fan hero get beaten by a guy that Dana doesn't seem to trust or like at all.

I think it'd be an amazing fight to see though, I really hope White comes to his senses and does what's best for the sport rather than try and get back at Silva for letting him down.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 03:43:31 PM
Dana White needs to stop being an egotistical nob-end and get the f***ing fight on man ffs!!!

I want GSP to f***ing cream the f***er!!!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 11 April 2010, 05:41:53 PM
Watched the slive fight today.  Tbh i dont really care about his performance.  I would have loved mia to win but thats just beacuse i train in BJJ.  Sliave f***ed him up hard in the first 3 rounds.  Mia should be going mental to catch silva if he wants to win the fight.....
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 11 April 2010, 06:17:28 PM
Watched the slive fight today.  Tbh i dont really care about his performance.  I would have loved mia to win but thats just beacuse i train in BJJ.  Sliave f***ed him up hard in the first 3 rounds.  Mia should be going mental to catch silva if he wants to win the fight.....
Maia was going ''mental'' to win the fight, he tried his best to earn a takedown but he just wasn't explosive enough. He was forced to throw haymakers at Silva in the final two rounds, something he would normally not do.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 06:23:48 PM
I was really hoping it would go to ground at somepoint just to see what Maia would do. But like the comms said, it was so humid that it made it even more difficult than normal to grab onto anyone and pull them down due to how slippery they become right from the off. So Maia was even more disadvantaged.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 11 April 2010, 07:46:35 PM
Dana White needs to stop being an egotistical nob-end and get the f***ing fight on man ffs!!!

I want GSP to f***ing cream the f***er!!!!!

It's a fight the fans want to see, but if Silva drops weight it would be a title fight, and I doubt White will give Silva a chance to hold two championships at the same time. I don't know if I agree with that, but I think he would have a point in not wanting Silva to represent the UFC in such a way.

As for Edgar, I agree with the decision. Penn did land some crisp shots, but Edgar controlled the pace of the fight, imo. He also had the take downs and did more noticeable damage to Penn.

I doubt that Penn will feel too bad about it, though, since he probably will move up a weight class now and won't have to worry about cutting weight to defend this title. GSP said that the fact that he holds the welterweight title is what's keeping him from moving to middleweight. So Penn should be able to concentrate on putting some extra muscle on and having a serious go at welterweight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 07:53:23 PM
Dana White needs to stop being an egotistical nob-end and get the f***ing fight on man ffs!!!

I want GSP to f***ing cream the f***er!!!!!

It's a fight the fans want to see, but if Silva drops weight it would be a title fight, and I doubt White will give Silva a chance to hold two championships at the same time. I don't know if I agree with that, but I think he would have a point in not wanting Silva to represent the UFC in such a way.

As for Edgar, I agree with the decision. Penn did land some crisp shots, but Edgar controlled the pace of the fight, imo. He also had the take downs and did more noticeable damage to Penn.

I doubt that Penn will feel too bad about it, though, since he probably will move up a weight class now and won't have to worry about cutting weight to defend this title. GSP said that the fact that he holds the welterweight title is what's keeping him from moving to middleweight. So Penn should be able to concentrate on putting some extra muscle on and having a serious go at welterweight.

Like I say, if they can persuade Rush to fight at a catchweight of 175 or so then the title wouldnt have to be on the line. Would really love to see it happen. Easier said than done, I know.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: GAMMELL on Sunday 11 April 2010, 07:54:06 PM
I miss Ken Shamrock
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 11 April 2010, 07:57:58 PM
GSP vs Silva. Couldn't give a s*** about the fight but I am interested to see how Silva looks dropping that weight and see if his power will still carry.

I don't think his fight with Sakurai at 167lbs holds much weight in telling us how he will perform against GSP, that Silva holds nothing to his current self and the fight wasn't anywhere near as fast paced as GSP would make it. Silva did spank Okami at 175lbs before he got DQ'd but again that Okami was very meh.



I miss Ken Shamrock
lol, he has had some serious stinkers that guy. I don't miss him atall, his stint in Pride was awesome though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 11 April 2010, 08:02:41 PM
Like I say, if they can persuade Rush to fight at a catchweight of 175 or so then the title wouldnt have to be on the line. Would really love to see it happen. Easier said than done, I know.

I really do hope that it happens one way or the other. Both fighters have been hampered by a lack of serious competition.

Personally, I think that Silva doesn't have the dedication or conditioning to take on GSP. GSP would find a way to take Silva down and would wear him out rather quickly.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 11 April 2010, 08:11:12 PM
Like I say, if they can persuade Rush to fight at a catchweight of 175 or so then the title wouldnt have to be on the line. Would really love to see it happen. Easier said than done, I know.

I really do hope that it happens one way or the other. Both fighters have been hampered by a lack of serious competition.

Personally, I think that Silva doesn't have the dedication or conditioning to take on GSP. GSP would find a way to take Silva down and would wear him out rather quickly.

Its certainly a hard one to call. Would love to see GSP put him on his arse.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 12 April 2010, 04:29:58 PM
Dissapointing to say the least.

Was waiting for Silva to end the fight in the 3rd round, and then thought, "is he so cocky that he will wait untill the very end to knock out Maia?". Was very anti climatic when the bell sounded at the end. I really like Silva, and had a good laugh from his showboating in the first two rounds. :lol: He really needs bigger fights. Every oponent he has had latley have been scared shitless, and I agree with Silva, that he is the champ, it is the challenger who should be taking the fight to Silva, not the other way around. A catchweight at 175 against GSP perhaps? Would be awsome to see no matter what the outcome will be.

Also, I agree with mattis that Penn shouldn't have lost the belt, although you have to give credit to Edgar for how he executed his game plan. I guess there will be a rematch coming soon. Penn deserves one unless he is now looking to step up to welterweight again.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 12 April 2010, 05:00:51 PM
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 12 April 2010, 07:22:32 PM
Of course Penn deserves to lose the belt on that fight?

Was he thoroughly outclassed and beaten soundly? No, but he was second best on the night and there's no real doubt that Edgar was the better man.

Not a big believer in the whole concept that you should have to thoroughly outclass your opponent to win the belt by decision.

I actually do think that the champion should get an extra point on each judges scorecard when a fight goes the distance, so if the judge has ruled it a 3-2 victory in rounds to the challenger then that would constitute a tie. But too many people subscribe to the idea that if an individual round is borderline then the champ should win theory IMO, and it leads to stuff like Shogun-Machida which was just w*** in all honesty.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 12 April 2010, 07:49:26 PM
Of course Penn deserves to lose the belt on that fight?

Was he thoroughly outclassed and beaten soundly? No, but he was second best on the night and there's no real doubt that Edgar was the better man.

Not a big believer in the whole concept that you should have to thoroughly outclass your opponent to win the belt by decision.

I actually do think that the champion should get an extra point on each judges scorecard when a fight goes the distance, so if the judge has ruled it a 3-2 victory in rounds to the challenger then that would constitute a tie. But too many people subscribe to the idea that if an individual round is borderline then the champ should win theory IMO, and it leads to stuff like Shogun-Machida which was just w*** in all honesty.
On a 10 point must system there's nothing wrong with the scoring of that fight. Machida could have easily stole the first 3 rounds, same goes for the Penn/Edgar.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 12 April 2010, 08:27:11 PM
Not the way UFC is supposed to be scored he couldn't have.

Machida landed a better percentage of his attempted strikes, I'll give him that. But Shogun did more damage with his and landed a greater quantity of strikes, so in terms of effective striking Machida was breaking even, at best.

Shogun however clearly dominated in terms of octagon control and was the more aggressive fighter in every round, and these are also supposedly considered as key elements in UFC scoring.

I actually happen to believe Machida will win the rematch, but as much as some people seem to want to try and justify that ruling there's no way he won the first time out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 12 April 2010, 08:37:22 PM
Not the way UFC is supposed to be scored he couldn't have.

Machida landed a better percentage of his attempted strikes, I'll give him that. But Shogun did more damage with his and landed a greater quantity of strikes, so in terms of effective striking Machida was breaking even, at best.

Shogun however clearly dominated in terms of octagon control and was the more aggressive fighter in every round, and these are also supposedly considered as key elements in UFC scoring.

I actually happen to believe Machida will win the rematch, but as much as some people seem to want to try and justify that ruling there's no way he won the first time out.
Yes, he did more damage and control... in the last two rounds. He had already given Machida the win by not doing enough early on, no doubt about it he won the last two rounds but they weren't dominant to get a 10-8 rounds. UFC scoring is round by round, which ment is was fair that Machida won. If it were in Pride FC, the outcome may have been different because they scored the fight on a whole.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 12 April 2010, 08:43:26 PM
Right, another one wading in having watched that crap.

Penn deserved to lose as far as I'm concerned. If you watch that fight muted then you wouldn't think any different imo. The commentators spend the first few rounds saying how amazing GSP/Silva/Penn are, without fail.  Penn did very little, Edgar dictated the pace, landed a decent amount of jabs and took him down twice. It was by no means a flashy victory but I couldn't have seen it any other way. Just look at the judges scorecards tbh.

Silva is a t***. If you've no intention of attempting to finish the fight, don't come out acting like billy big bollocks. If you're gonna act the cocky t***, make sure you do the job.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 12 April 2010, 09:15:10 PM
Not the way UFC is supposed to be scored he couldn't have.

Machida landed a better percentage of his attempted strikes, I'll give him that. But Shogun did more damage with his and landed a greater quantity of strikes, so in terms of effective striking Machida was breaking even, at best.

Shogun however clearly dominated in terms of octagon control and was the more aggressive fighter in every round, and these are also supposedly considered as key elements in UFC scoring.

I actually happen to believe Machida will win the rematch, but as much as some people seem to want to try and justify that ruling there's no way he won the first time out.
Yes, he did more damage and control... in the last two rounds. He had already given Machida the win by not doing enough early on, no doubt about it he won the last two rounds but they weren't dominant to get a 10-8 rounds. UFC scoring is round by round, which ment is was fair that Machida won. If it were in Pride FC, the outcome may have been different because they scored the fight on a whole.

My hope is that it will be a better fight in the rematch than the original because Machida will come out to prove something.

I also think that Shogun should have won the fight, but it was close and I can see how the judges might have saw it differently. Ultimately I think it comes down to the fact that judges don't look on leg kicks as being worth as many points as take downs or head shots.

The reason why I think Shogun won the fight is that he controlled the pace and instigated his game plan better than Machida. Obviously that wasn't enough to win him the belt.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 12 April 2010, 09:16:45 PM
I agree. Shogun won that fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 12 April 2010, 09:36:09 PM
Obviously the UFC also think he won the fight, since he's getting a rematch. Montreal is a few hours away from me (about 8 hours in the car) but I can't make it for the UFC event. Makes me sad.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 13 April 2010, 04:09:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxcIDf_uk2s&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 13 April 2010, 04:39:52 PM
Pretty much anyone worth a p*ss at football could do that to be fair.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 16 April 2010, 01:16:55 PM
Anyone going to the Arena on Sunday to see Optimus? (Yeah I thought it was Transformer MMA too).

Card has a bunch of local no ones... and DAN SEVERN!

http://www.metroradioarena.co.uk/events/view.aspx?event=4045
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 16 April 2010, 03:42:52 PM
Anyone going to the Arena on Sunday to see Optimus? (Yeah I thought it was Transformer MMA too).

Card has a bunch of local no ones... and DAN SEVERN!

http://www.metroradioarena.co.uk/events/view.aspx?event=4045

Dave Elliot is not really a no one.  One of the most repected BJJ fighters in Newcastle.  And has some great local talent
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 16 April 2010, 04:58:25 PM
Yeah, thats my ignorance showing. Only really know people from UFC and Cage Rage  :-[
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 16 April 2010, 11:52:33 PM
Yeah, thats my ignorance showing. Only really know people from UFC and Cage Rage  :-[

His son has sick BJJ http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tyrone%20elliott&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1
Choked me out many a time

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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 17 April 2010, 12:25:55 AM
Im very new to all this, so I have to ask:

The Aldo vs Faber fight coming up the 24th, is this through another branch of UFC? They keep advertising it, but it isn't UFC?

The build up for the fight seems good. Is it worth spending money on? Anyone know anything about the two fighters?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Saturday 17 April 2010, 12:28:44 AM
The company that owns UFC owns WEC as well. The weight classes are mostly below UFC. In my experience, WEC always produces better fights. I'm almost never disappointed with it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 17 April 2010, 01:20:10 AM
hehe, after checking out WEC's homepage, Im left wondering how many bantamweights it would take to beat one Brock Lesnar. I mean, 61 kilos. Don't think I know -any- guys who weigh that little. :lol:

Must be some pretty high pace fights though. Think I'll order Aldo vs Faber ppv. Cheers  O0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 17 April 2010, 03:32:42 AM
WEC 48 should be good. Henderson vs Cerrone got fight of the year in 2009, so the rematch should be something to look forward to. Jose Aldo is one of the most exciting prospects in the featherweight division and should be able to take out Faber. Oh, and it's Strikeforce tomorrow which will feature three championship fights!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 19 April 2010, 03:25:41 PM
Picked every fight on the strikeforce card right, predicable as allways.   :weep: Strikeforce used to be good....
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 19 April 2010, 05:03:35 PM
Picked every fight on the strikeforce card right, predicable as allways.   :weep: Strikeforce used to be good....

So 3 title fights with the like of seeing Aoki fight in the USA is s***?  Is this becasue there were no knockouts?  I would be interested to know when you think Strikeforce starting getting so bad? 

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 19 April 2010, 05:27:07 PM
Well, at least it was a pretty entertaining end to the event :lol:

Bet Dana White creamed his pants when he found out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 19 April 2010, 06:35:56 PM
It wasn't a bad event overall. I think for the more casual spectators they would have preferred a more 'exciting' display of fights. Fight of the night however has to go to Jason Miller vs Cesar Gracie Jiu-Jitsu  ;D

I'm looking forward to UFC 113 in a few weeks time. Some quality match ups on that card.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 19 April 2010, 09:15:25 PM
Picked every fight on the strikeforce card right, predicable as allways.   :weep: Strikeforce used to be good....

So 3 title fights with the like of seeing Aoki fight in the USA is s***?  Is this becasue there were no knockouts?  I would be interested to know when you think Strikeforce starting getting so bad? 


Did I say it was s***? I said it used to be good, not that it is s*** and I couldn't care if Aoki was fighting in the US, Space or the moon. If you thought that was some good MMA, then good on you. Oh, and I love the sly dig ''no knockouts'' comment, I take it not enjoying shitty fights makes me a noob these days.

I really enjoyed their events back in 06 and 07, have some of the dvds also. Least you knew where it stood back then, nowdays I just feel the overall production is garbage and it gets on my tits while I watch.

Also, how bad did EA MMA look? I'll still be buyig but Jesus...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 19 April 2010, 09:34:32 PM
Picked every fight on the strikeforce card right, predicable as allways.   :weep: Strikeforce used to be good....

So 3 title fights with the like of seeing Aoki fight in the USA is s***?  Is this becasue there were no knockouts?  I would be interested to know when you think Strikeforce starting getting so bad? 


Did I say it was s***? I said it used to be good, not that it is s*** and I couldn't care if Aoki was fighting in the US, Space or the moon. If you thought that was some good MMA, then good on you. Oh, and I love the sly dig ''no knockouts'' comment, I take it not enjoying shitty fights makes me a noob these days.

I really enjoyed their events back in 06 and 07, have some of the dvds also. Least you knew where it stood back then, nowdays I just feel the overall production is garbage and it gets on my tits while I watch.

Also, how bad did EA MMA look? I'll still be buyig but Jesus...

Not trying to be a dick im just interested in what you feel was wrong with it?  It might be beacuse i train in BJJ i repect/enjoy the ground fighting more...

Middleweight Championship bout: Jake Shields vs. United States Dan Henderson
It was really good see see how shields recovered and went onto show he amazing BBJ against a high level wrestler who has fought loads of black belts.

Lightweight Championship bout: United States Gilbert Melendez  vs. Japan Shinya Aoki

Melendez after this fight is well on his way to overtaking BJ penn as the best P4P lightweight.  Not only did he beat up Aoki on the ground (Amazing) but he took the will from Aoki with all the takedown defence.

Light Heavyweight Championship  bout: Armenia Gegard Mousasi vs Muhammed Lawal

Im so upset Mousasi could not do anythign from the his back.  Maybe thats a credit to Lawal and how he controlled the fight.  He got caught with an up kick the swelled his eye but was never in danger.

As for the production yes its s*** but becasue its on network TV the cut out most of the intro's etc for time purposes...nothign is ever going to compare to pride but i will take s*** production if it mean MMA grows bigger. 

Problem you have is as MMA fighter get more rounded and even more so for the elite fighter you will get more 3/5 round points winners as it get harder to finish people.

I get were your coming from but tbh when i watch MMA i seem to enjoy even the "s***" fights because its MMA and i love it.



Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 19 April 2010, 10:00:28 PM
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Not trying to be a dick im just interested in what you feel was wrong with it?  It might be beacuse i train in BJJ i repect/enjoy the ground fighting more...
I've been training Judo for close to 15 years, worked lots of self defence grappling and BJJ and even done some Sambo. I respect the ground game more than you think. Only reason I am currently not doing anything other than Judo is because there is nothing in my area, when I move back to Newcastle i'll be back to MMA and BJJ.[/quote]


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Middleweight Championship bout: Jake Shields vs. United States Dan Henderson
It was really good see see how shields recovered and went onto show he amazing BBJ against a high level wrestler who has fought loads of black belts.
Fought lots of black belts and looked awful against lots of black belts. Shields did exactly what I though he'd do, survive an early attack and completely outwork Dan on the ground. Wasn't exactly exciting neither, just Shields moving from side control to mount and back again, then throwing really weak punches when on top but to honest i've got nothing against that I always like position over submission.[/quote]



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Lightweight Championship bout: United States Gilbert Melendez  vs. Japan Shinya Aoki

Melendez after this fight is well on his way to overtaking BJ penn as the best P4P lightweight.  Not only did he beat up Aoki on the ground (Amazing) but he took the will from Aoki with all the takedown defence.
Nothing to say here, solid win.

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Light Heavyweight Championship  bout: Armenia Gegard Mousasi vs Muhammed Lawal

Im so upset Mousasi could not do anythign from the his back.  Maybe thats a credit to Lawal and how he controlled the fight.  He got caught with an up kick the swelled his eye but was never in danger.
Gegard let himself down, didn't fight smart atall and let this fight slip completely out of his grasp. Gegard fought with no range and all his strikes came from in close which allowed him to be taken down so eas and he had no urgency off his back.

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As for the production yes its s*** but becasue its on network TV the cut out most of the intro's etc for time purposes...nothign is ever going to compare to pride but i will take s*** production if it mean MMA grows bigger. 
Not really an excuse for how trashy it looks.

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Problem you have is as MMA fighter get more rounded and even more so for the elite fighter you will get more 3/5 round points winners as it get harder to finish people.
I don't think so atall, obviously the styles make fights but I didn't see anybody really trying to go out there for a finish. I'd much rather see a 5 rounder it is exciting over a first round KO, trouble is none of the fights were extremly exciting.

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I get were your coming from but tbh when i watch MMA i seem to enjoy even the "s***" fights because its MMA and i love it.
I used to be the same 4-5 years ago, but now it's harder. I had no trouble sitting through the fights atall, I had just hoped for so much more.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 7 May 2010, 07:07:52 PM
It's TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME. Soon.

As a warmup for Shogun Rua's rematch against Lyoto Machida for the LHW belt, here's an interview with Machidas dad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBOZH_j_sI&feature=player_embedded

So anyone got any predictions for tomorrow?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Friday 7 May 2010, 07:17:39 PM
Shogun, Koscheck, Stout, Meathead, Belcher.

May is a great month for MMA. UFC 113, Strikeforce: Heavy Artillery, Mariusz Pudzianowski vs Tim Sylvia  :lol: and Dream 14.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 7 May 2010, 07:23:29 PM
My predictions would be:


Light Heavyweight Championship bout:  Lyoto Machida (c) vs.  Mauricio Rua
Welterweight bout:  Josh Koscheck vs.  Paul Daley
Lightweight bout:  Sam Stout vs.  Jeremy Stephens - No knowledge of any of them. I picked Stout because that's the coolest name.
Heavyweight bout:  Kimbo Slice vs.  Matt Mitrione
Middleweight bout:  Patrick Côté vs.  Alan Belcher
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Friday 7 May 2010, 07:23:58 PM
Shogun - Machida is tomorrow night?

Thought it was next week.

Sweet.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Friday 7 May 2010, 08:18:49 PM
Belcher over Cote? Wow.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 7 May 2010, 08:30:15 PM
Belcher is a pretty gritty fighter, and Cote has been out for a pretty long time. Cote will gas out in the third, and Belcher gets the win.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 7 May 2010, 08:47:02 PM
I kinda hope Mitrione will beat Kimbo
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Friday 7 May 2010, 09:19:55 PM
Belcher is really talented and physically big for a Middleweight, I also think Cote might be a bit rusty from his long lay off, but he definitely has a chance to KO Belcher if he's sharp and fit.
I really hope Daley wins but after Koscheck manhandled Anthony Johnson last time round, I'm not so sure if Daley can knock him out. Also the winner of the Daley/Kos fight will coach the next season of 'The Ultimate Fighter' against GSP and they will end up fighting for the title.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 7 May 2010, 09:20:48 PM
Well I really don't think Daley is ready for GSP like...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 7 May 2010, 10:22:48 PM
As much as i hate it Daley will lose.  Josh is talking the stand up game but he will take him down.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 7 May 2010, 10:25:53 PM
Nah nee chance, I'm gonna intimidate him via twitter and he'll choke.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 7 May 2010, 10:33:30 PM
Hes said so the latest days as well, that he will take it to the ground. If he manages to do that, then anything can happen. Im still pretty confident that Daley will hit that one gamechanger and get the win.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 7 May 2010, 11:07:27 PM
Check out Tom Lawlors weigh in  :smitten:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Friday 7 May 2010, 11:39:53 PM
Check out Tom Lawlors weigh in  :smitten:

Just Bleed and now Dan Severn..what a guy!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 7 May 2010, 11:44:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlE4KKPFXAo
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 8 May 2010, 04:41:20 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Saturday 8 May 2010, 05:28:35 PM
Just read that the winner of Koscheck / Daley will coach the next season of the Ultimate Fighter along side GSP. Now I really hope it's Koscheck. Would be much more interesting.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 8 May 2010, 06:08:52 PM
WAR SHOGUN!!!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Saturday 8 May 2010, 06:31:52 PM
God I hope Semtex wins, I've never rooted for a fighter so much.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 9 May 2010, 03:28:44 AM
Alan Belcher wins the opener.

(http://www.doletown.com/simpsons/barney/barneyburps.gif)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 9 May 2010, 03:59:15 AM
He looks so unfit. :lol:

Drake for an entrance song, I like it.

I also like how he runs round the octagon like a kid on a bouncey castle. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:40:19 AM
Not sure who I want to lose more, Daley or Koscheck... both are annoying as f*** and not anywhere near worthy of facing GSP.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:41:19 AM
When is the main event?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:42:06 AM
When is the main event?

After this fight.  Think we're going to see a knock out here, should be good. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:52:01 AM
:lol: f*** is this fake s***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:53:01 AM
Koscheck is so full of s***.  First opportunity he chutes and most of the round is on the ground.

WHAT AN IDIOT!!!! Koscheck should be booked for faking!!!!  Daley doesn't connect with the knee and Koscheck goes down.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:53:44 AM
:lol: That was sad.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:54:16 AM
Pathetic comes to mind.  Dana will let him have it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:55:33 AM
Daley's toe clipped his eye?  Fuckin' hell, Koscheck.  Alright, I want Semtex to win now. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:57:13 AM
The BS coming from the comms over that kick was a joke. He faked it cos he'd control of the fight and knew Semtex could start trading with him. He wants this on points cos he knows he won't knock Daley out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 04:59:50 AM
As much as Koscheck said he would stand and bang with Daley, there was no way that was going to happen.  This is boring, but can't see Daley winning this from the ground.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:00:41 AM
GSP!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:01:22 AM
How is Koscheck crazy? He's done nothing in this fight to suggest he's crazy. All he's done is give a boring fight after chatting s*** in the build up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:05:11 AM
Finish the fight, Koscheck, you boring f***. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:06:14 AM
:lol: f***ing hell.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:06:53 AM
Well, that was the time you'll see Daley in the UFC, stupid c***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:07:27 AM
Oh I hope GSP kicks the f***ing s*** out of Koscheck.

Stupid by Daley tbh, but I can see his frustration, if you're gonna claim to you'll stand up with a guy then do what he did especially after faking a kick. He wants to be in similar levels of trouble for faking that kick but he won't cos he's a US  fighter.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:08:51 AM
:lol: Trolling the Canadians. Well done, guy I didn't know existed ten minutes ago! Fly the flag!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:11:24 AM
Oh I hope GSP kicks the f***ing s*** out of Koscheck.

Stupid by Daley tbh, but I can see his frustration, if you're gonna claim to you'll stand up with a guy then do what he did especially after faking a kick. He wants to be in similar levels of trouble for faking that kick but he won't cos he's a US  fighter.

The faking was pathetic, but Daley didn't do himself any favors with that BS after the fight. Neither one of them should be coaches, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:12:03 AM
Oh I hope GSP kicks the f***ing s*** out of Koscheck.

Stupid by Daley tbh, but I can see his frustration, if you're gonna claim to you'll stand up with a guy then do what he did especially after faking a kick. He wants to be in similar levels of trouble for faking that kick but he won't cos he's a US  fighter.

WHAT? You can't compare the two, man.  I understand you're upset, but that was absolutely retarded from Daley.  You don't do that, the fight was over.  Daley doesn't deserve to be in the UFC with actions like that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:12:58 AM
They worked really hard editing that fight to make it look like it was even.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:13:50 AM
Oh I hope GSP kicks the f***ing s*** out of Koscheck.

Stupid by Daley tbh, but I can see his frustration, if you're gonna claim to you'll stand up with a guy then do what he did especially after faking a kick. He wants to be in similar levels of trouble for faking that kick but he won't cos he's a US  fighter.

WHAT? You can't compare the two, man.  I understand you're upset, but that was absolutely retarded from Daley.  You don't do that, the fight was over.  Daley doesn't deserve to be in the UFC with actions like that.
Yeh I agree Daley f***ed it up big style doing that I thought he was better than that, I'm just saying I know why he did it, not that it was cool to do it. It's just as much of a bitch move as faking a knee. Really neither should be coaching the talent of tomorrow.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:17:13 AM
Oh I hope GSP kicks the f***ing s*** out of Koscheck.

Stupid by Daley tbh, but I can see his frustration, if you're gonna claim to you'll stand up with a guy then do what he did especially after faking a kick. He wants to be in similar levels of trouble for faking that kick but he won't cos he's a US  fighter.

WHAT? You can't compare the two, man.  I understand you're upset, but that was absolutely retarded from Daley.  You don't do that, the fight was over.  Daley doesn't deserve to be in the UFC with actions like that.
Yeh I agree Daley f***ed it up big style doing that I thought he was better than that, I'm just saying I know why he did it, not that it was cool to do it. It's just as much of a bitch move as faking a knee. Really neither should be coaching the talent of tomorrow.

Nah, they don't, would rather see a rematch with Hardy.  I have a new respect for the Outlaw after his fight with GSP and I think he would be a decent coach. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:18:07 AM
Alright, come on Sho-gun!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:25:20 AM
YEAH!!!! SHOGUN!!!!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:26:38 AM
How was this ever in doubt? It's like a lion fighting a lamb.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:26:49 AM
!!!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:26:56 AM
Clipped him on the temple and punched his lights out in full mount.  AWESOME!!!  Shogun is back, baby!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:31:56 AM
Machida's eye was disgusting, bubbled at least double in size.  Man, those were some crazy shots he took on the ground.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 9 May 2010, 06:26:42 AM
"Semtex" is done, official from Dana.  Wasn't there someone on here that actually had their username as "Semtex" and a pic of him?  Might want to get on changing that asap. 

http://mmajunkie.com/news/19061/dana-white-following-cheap-shot-ufc-113s-paul-daley-wont-fight-in-the-ufc-again.mma (http://mmajunkie.com/news/19061/dana-white-following-cheap-shot-ufc-113s-paul-daley-wont-fight-in-the-ufc-again.mma)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 9 May 2010, 01:58:41 PM
So delighted for Shogun following the controversy at 104, in a way it's good for Machida whose been getting rather unnecessary hate due to the incident. Daley was silly to do that and the cut was expected, although I wish it properly connected so that he could have went out with a bang.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 9 May 2010, 03:07:56 PM
Happy for Shogun, but feel for Machida, clearly deluded to his chances to win this fight.

Not surprised about Semtex, still would like to see what might happen if a US fighter did that, last night proved they are very pro US.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:14:28 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/j6n4aq.gif)

Courtesy of Sherdog :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 9 May 2010, 05:45:53 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 9 May 2010, 06:29:23 PM
No debating that one. :lol:

Now...

Shogun against Anderson Silva please.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 10 May 2010, 12:03:55 AM
:lol: Mr Burnip will be changing his name and av pretty soon I guess?? :lol:

Until us Brits learn to wrestle we are never going to have a UFC WC.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 10 May 2010, 04:09:01 AM
:lol: Mr Burnip will be changing his name and av pretty soon I guess?? :lol:

Until us Brits learn to wrestle we are never going to have a UFC WC.

I hate Koscheck, but I was still pulling for him, simply because that fight proved that even if Daley would have got his shot in and won the fight, he was nowhere near ready for GSP. Only a well-rounded fighter is going to beat GSP at this weight class. What he did after the fight was mindless and he probably deserves to be shown the door. Probably a little harsh to say that he will never come back, though. If he can mature as a fighter and a person, he probably should be allowed to come back in a few years.

Very happy for Shogun. I'm glad that Machida lost. It's always irritated me that he refused to fight Silva. If you're not willing to take any fight, then you shouldn't be competing, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 10 May 2010, 08:03:24 AM
Machida refusing to take on silva?

Think you got that wrong, nobody of them wants to fight each other, they are best friends ffs

Makes no odds if they are best friends or not. They should still fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 10 May 2010, 08:34:04 AM
I hope Shogun destroys the f***er.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 10 May 2010, 10:43:14 AM
That's why GSP vs. Silva would be fun, just for the watch.

Too bad Dana has completely bottled that fight because he's terrified GSP would lose, which odds are he probably would.

It'd be the biggest fight in UFC history, the one everyone wants to see.

A few years ago you can bet Dana would have made it happen, regardless of his own feelings about it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 10 May 2010, 12:01:45 PM
You say Silva has no weakness but in his last fight his stamina was highly questionable.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Lotus on Monday 10 May 2010, 12:06:39 PM
Would spice up things that, and make White one happy man for once  :lol:
Dana seems very annoyd with Silva these days, with a good reason to it.

With that said Silva would outclass Shogun, as he does with every one else, he's just too good for anyone else, no weakness at all.
Can't see anyone matching up with Silva as of today, he will lose when he doesn't want to win or getting to old imo
Or a "one hit" lucky strike etc.

GSP and Silva is just the Chelsea/Manu of UFC, the tactical game is just to advanced compared to the others.
That's why GSP vs. Silva would be fun, just for the watch.

That's one thing i have noticed the last couple of years in UFC, the good ol crazy fights has gone away.
Can't even remember the last time i had a really exciting UFC event, last one for me was the Rampage vs. Liddell fight.
Loved that one.

Haven't Silva's losses been to grapplers?
Wouldn't underestimate Shogun's BJJ, he can also strike. Tbh, i'd bet on Shogun. Would be good to watch though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 10 May 2010, 01:21:26 PM
I'm not sure there's any real link that can be made between Silva's losses.

He lost on his debut, I doubt there's much you can learn from that.

Two of his other losses were in freak circumstances. He was DQ'd for an illegal kick to the head against Okami in a fight where he'd looked much the better fighter until that point. Against Ryo Chonan he beat the hell out of the guy until he was caught with arguably one of the greatest one off moves in MMA history.

The only other time outside his debut he was soundly and genuinely beaten was back in 2003, where he was taken down and submitted by some random dude whose name escapes me right now. The guy was some sort of journeyman who never amounted to much, popular opinion seems to be that Silva just completely underestimated the guy and was made to pay.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 10 May 2010, 01:33:14 PM
I watched some UFC fight last night on ESPN which had some Brazilian guy looking like the gayest UFC fighter in history. Tight white spendex shorts, and when he won his 'pal' crying on him like a bitch.

If it didn't mention he had just had a kid i'd have wondered.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Monday 10 May 2010, 01:41:35 PM
Did he have eyes on the back of his shorts? :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 10 May 2010, 01:45:17 PM
Did he have eyes on the back of his shorts? :lol:

possibly, they had green something on them, but i tried to focus above the waist. He won in the first round against another brazilian.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 10 May 2010, 03:06:20 PM
I think it was his brother (Murilo Rua) who was crying when he won the title. It would be awesome if Shogun just took out the entire Blackhouse camp of: Machida, Rogerio Nogueria and finally Anderson Silva.

Daiju Takase was the guy who beat Anderson Silva in 2003 via Triangle Choke. People always assume it was a fluke but the truth is Takase pretty much dominated him throughout. Same also applies to the Ryo Chonan fight, I think it's mainly due to the video of Josh Barnett claiming that Chonan was getting absolutely destroyed before he pulled off the submission. Even Bas Rutten mentioned that Silva was on his way to losing the fight unless he pulled off a KO in the final round.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 10 May 2010, 03:11:29 PM
Anyone seen that Jon 'Bones' Jones?

Fuking lethal lanky b******.

22yrs old, 85" reach!  :lol: 6ft 4"

Kids a great watching, fast, accurate and adventurous, spinning elbows, rapid jabs, high kicks, high knees, he's like the real life Dhalsim.



Anyone seen this lad recently? does anyone know when he's fighting next?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 10 May 2010, 03:19:51 PM
Jon Jones is fighting Vladimir Matyushenko next in August. Matyushenko has lots of experience and is fairly good but I think Jones will win that via razor sharp elbows.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 10 May 2010, 03:23:39 PM
Jon Jones is fighting Vladimir Matyushenko next in August. Matyushenko has lots of experience and is fairly good but I think Jones will win that via razor sharp elbows.

His elbows are deadly, i hope he's got his technique sorted and doesn't get disqualified again.

That reach man, its mental, 85 inches.  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 10 May 2010, 04:49:24 PM
Also, credit to Matt Mitrione for having good entrance music (Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man). There is some diablolical s**** that the fighters come out to. Take the main event as a prime example!

Good on yer Matt, son!  :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 10 May 2010, 05:43:30 PM
Yoshihiro Akiyama is another fighter who has excellent entrance music.  :smitten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJJtpZxF4ZE&feature=related
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 10 May 2010, 05:55:26 PM
Machida refusing to take on silva?

Think you got that wrong, nobody of them wants to fight each other, they are best friends ffs

I don't see the difference. If you want to compete in the UFC and be the champion, you should be willing to take on any fight that the fans want to see.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 10 May 2010, 08:26:53 PM
Buffer is the man!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYMP73rl13w&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 10 May 2010, 11:58:16 PM
Have to say I feel kind of bad for Semtex. Must be so frustrating to be on your back all the time, and not taking much punishment, lose and then to be called a pussy afterwards (don't know if that's what Kos said, but he definatly said something when he got up when the fight was over). No doubt he should be reprimanded, but kicking him out of UFC is a bit harsh imo.

Thought it was a good event all in all.

Edit: Apparently, when confrontet by Dana White after the fight, he said that he didn't hear the bell ring, and thought the fight was still going  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 09:28:15 AM
Yeah I feel slightly sorry for Daley too. It was when he was being held down with about 20 seconds to go that Kos was saying things in his ear. Apparently DW didn't like his excuse of not hearing the bell and when he asked Daley if he wanted to fight in the UFC again, Daley just shrugged his shoulders.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 09:53:13 AM
Kos is a total cock, always has been alwasy will be.

Shogun looked class I thought going into the fight he would be looking for the takedown.
His striking was great. reminded me of his old pride days when no one could touch him..

Felt sorry for Kimbo he doesnt belong in the UFC but at least he gave it a try.
Meathead looked really good I would like to see him fight a good grapler next to see how he does on the ground.

Beltcher looked really good also, Cote is no slouch

Good card, looking forward to Rampage vs Evans now. Predictions??
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 09:53:31 AM
Daley is an idiot, at least be a man and admit you took a cheap shot rather than try and lie and make some sort of BS excuse for it.

I doubt the door is closed for him permanently in UFC, but odds are it'll be a few years before he gets another shot after that stunt. From White's perspective you can't let a thing like that slide. You need to come down firm and nip that sort of stuff in the bud.

Koschek is such an annoying fighter though. Really dull, suffocating style and seems to have no honour about him either if the trashtalking and faking an illegal blow are anything to go by.

His fight with GSP is going to be so, so bad.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 09:57:09 AM
My money is on Evans, I think he'll frustrate Rampage and win it on points.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 10:00:59 AM
Aye it's the right way for him to fight, obviously.

My point was more that I just don't enjoy watching him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 11:18:02 AM
What are people's opinions about creating a Super Heavyweight division in the UFC?

Rashad and Florian were talking about this the other night on MMA live. 205-230 for HW and then 230+ for SH.

They used the Couture/Lesnar fight as an example of why this should happen. And I agree.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 11:28:21 AM
Nah.

In fact if it were up to me I'd do away with the weight limit in the HW altogther.

Would love to see some massive fatties getting in there and having a go, would spice up what is a really dull division no end.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 01:59:50 PM
He did what he needed to do to win, just like GSP and Silva.
Nothing wrong with that, can't remember the last fight GSP had that was really spectacular (BJ Penn fight was pretty good).
To win titles you need to be cynical some times, you can't complain about fighters who does what's needed to win.

Think it's good for him, he has developed pretty much lately and hopefully he can give GSP a go.

I really don't think Kos has developed much at all, Hes a world class wrestler & always has been.

GSP will finish him inside 2 rounds.

In the Daley fight he only got full mount once the rest of the time he just lay on him.

The difference between  Kos & Gsp is that Gsp is always looking for a more dominant position or trying to finish the fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 03:51:30 PM
He as developed his striking a lot since back in the day, looks more confident with that now.
Think his allround game is looking sharper and much more of a threat then last time against GSP.

Wouldn't be surprised if he shakes GSP but he won't win of course.

GSP and Silva is just unbeatable, tired of listening to all the "my one hit punch can take him out" talk before fights against them.
Same s*** every time and every time it ends up with Silva and GSP having full control of the fights.
Hopefully someone can bring up an upset but just can't see it as of today.

Love it when people say s*** like that!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 04:26:49 PM
Super heavyweight - they can bring in Butterbean, Mariusz Pudzianowski and Zuluzinho

It's a shame that Forrest Griffin pulled out of his fight with lil nog. Nogueira probably would have knocked him out to be fair, but it still would have been decent to watch.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 09:42:41 PM
Wouldn't be much competition in a SHW division. On the other hand, it would allow many fighters who has dropped down to LHW to fight at their natural weight class if the monsters that is Lesnar and Carwin moved up from HW.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 11 May 2010, 11:52:25 PM
Just seen this, the way Joe Rogan describes Brock Lesnar is hilarious!  :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2iqJPiggyc&feature=related
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Wednesday 12 May 2010, 12:17:16 AM
Just acquired this

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61X0WFATlxL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

8 Discs worth of full fights, should be enough to get me into the sport :D

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 12 May 2010, 12:19:53 AM
Looks good mate. Keep checking Five USA too. They are showing the current season of TUF and UFC 113 should be on in a couple of weeks too. Or if you have ESPN its on all the time there.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 13 May 2010, 06:37:17 PM
Just watched all of this.

ahahahahahahhahahahahah

May change my avatar.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 13 May 2010, 06:41:47 PM
:smug:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 10:03:28 AM
Watched UFC 113, a few fights from the 'Top 100' and I'm hooked!

Also acquired and watching all the seasons of the Ultimate fighterrrrrrr which is class, love it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 10:11:35 AM
Doesn't take very long to get hooked does it? :lol:

I watched Fight Night 20 some time ago, only because I'd seen everything else I use to watch. Was hooked instantly, and a few weeks after, I had downloaded UFC 90-110 and watched almost all of them.

I also downloaded some Strikeforce which I think is good as well. Check out Strikeforce Fedor vs Rogers to see the #1 heavyweight in action.

Speaking of Strikeforce, they had the heavy artillery on ppv not long ago. Anyone seen it? Thought Overeem looked like a beast. He called out the Fedor camp after he manhandled Rogers, and they have practicly accepted the challenge so long as he wins against Werdum on june 26th. Could be one of the best heavyweight bouts in a long time if it happend.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 05:45:43 PM
How can you say that? If you look at the Fedor vs Rogers fight, Rogers actually dominated Fedor until he got hit by that one hail mary punch. I think the fight would be more close then most people would think. I still give the edge to Fedor, but I wouldn't be surprised if Overeem got a surprise win.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 06:53:23 PM
I wouldn't say Rogers 'dominated' Fedor, he did however land that jab early on which caused considerable damage to Fedor's nose. He also landed a few punches in Fedor's guard. Aside from that Fedor landed more punches, secured more takedowns and had better control of the cage.

Overeem does stand a chance but he will be tested in a number of areas; in particular his stamina and chin. Let's hope Fedor quickly gets past Werdum so this fight can happen.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Friday 21 May 2010, 02:06:32 PM
My money is on Evans, I think he'll frustrate Rampage and win it on points.

I saw Evans knock out the Iceman the other night on Wired, what a hit.

Can't wait to see this one, when and where I can I watch it?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Friday 21 May 2010, 02:11:01 PM
8 days time.

It'll be on at 3AM Saturday night/ Sunday morning.

ESPN if you want to watch it on TV, but otherwise you should be able to get a stream on the night or else watch it at mmatko.com the next day.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Friday 21 May 2010, 02:14:58 PM
8 days time.

It'll be on at 3AM Saturday night/ Sunday morning.

ESPN if you want to watch it on TV, but otherwise you should be able to get a stream on the night or else watch it at mmatko.com the next day.

My birthday lol, might not be up at 3am, but will try.

Ta.  :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 21 May 2010, 04:07:56 PM
How can you say that? If you look at the Fedor vs Rogers fight, Rogers actually dominated Fedor until he got hit by that one hail mary punch. I think the fight would be more close then most people would think. I still give the edge to Fedor, but I wouldn't be surprised if Overeem got a surprise win.

Rogers dominated Fedor? yeah, uh uh

Fedors nose face has been through battles of death so it's not so weird he started bleeding at all, he does it all the time, doesn't mean he got faced by it at all.
Fedor is just like that, feels his opponents and when he has read them he starts to attack with fatal outcome.

too much skill in all areas imo

and so humble at the same time, great athlete.

Just love watching some of the earlier fights of Fedor when not so many knew him, a couple of commentators who got really surprised, especially Rutten.

Overeem will give him a fight to the end though, unless Werdum pulls out a giant penis out his pants and smack Fedor.

Yeah, I just watched the fight again. You are right, Fedor were the agressor all the fight actually. Don't know why I though Rogers were the dominant one :lol:

I still think Overeem can cause an upset though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Friday 21 May 2010, 05:25:40 PM
Absolutely shocking product placement in TUF this week :lol:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Friday 21 May 2010, 05:45:22 PM
Absolutely shocking product placement in TUF this week :lol:



"When I get out of the house, I'm buying the game IMMEDIATELY" (or something similar to that) :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 24 May 2010, 09:53:43 AM
Anyone seen the marius pudzi vs Tim Sylvia fight from Friday??

Man that was embarrassing.. Pudz just gave up... Pussy!!

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 24 May 2010, 10:01:11 AM
Anyone seen the marius pudzi vs Tim Sylvia fight from Friday??

Man that was embarrassing.. Pudz just gave up... Pussy!!



Bit harsh.  He is a strongman and thats it.  Its the worst feeling in the world when you are truely gassed and know your body cant cope.  Saying tht dont be an MMA fighter if you are going to do that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Monday 24 May 2010, 12:10:32 PM
Class media call for this weekends fight, funny as :lol: can't wait!

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=multiMedia.detail&gid=81898
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 24 May 2010, 12:23:12 PM
Anyone seen the marius pudzi vs Tim Sylvia fight from Friday??

Man that was embarrassing.. Pudz just gave up... Pussy!!



Bit harsh.  He is a strongman and thats it.  Its the worst feeling in the world when you are truely gassed and know your body cant cope.  Saying tht dont be an MMA fighter if you are going to do that.

Aye true a tad harsh. But he is w***.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 24 May 2010, 01:19:30 PM
Class media call for this weekends fight, funny as :lol: can't wait!

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=multiMedia.detail&gid=81898

Such a shame evans is so quiet.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 12:08:22 AM
Watching this Semtex bloke fighting in UfC 113, got ripped a point by rivaldo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 12:10:31 AM
Shouldn't have posted a Lost spoiler tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 12:13:54 AM
Not Impressed with either, coaches? WTF? Nee rampage or rashid these two.

Jon jones rocks. Lol.

How old is 113 btw?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 01:34:52 AM
I have a bad feeling that Rashad is just going to come out there and out-wrestle Rampage for 15 minutes just like GSP vs Hardy.

I was watching some videos on ufc.com and it really struck me that Rampage isn't training with guys who are going to get him ready for Rashad--particularly his wrestling. The difference in the quality of their camps was pretty obvious, and I think it's going to result in Rashad being far more prepared than Rampage, no matter how much Rampage thinks this has been his best camp.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 09:28:15 AM
It was pretty funny watching Rashad deal with Shane Carwin in their camp. I get the feeling he didn't love the experience.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 09:29:10 AM
Change your username man.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 09:32:48 AM
f*** that!

Why would I?

The first thing I'm doing on UFC2010 is making Paul Daley. I'm gonna terrorise you all with sly after match jabs.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 10:22:39 AM
Just finished watching the Ultimate fighter season 1, the Forrest v Stephan fight was immense! can't wait to start season 2.

Also been working my way through some UFC events, strikeforce, WEC, Dream, K-1 etc... can't get enough of it, absolutely mint :D
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 02:37:43 PM
Just finished watching the Ultimate fighter season 1, the Forrest v Stephan fight was immense! can't wait to start season 2.

Also been working my way through some UFC events, strikeforce, WEC, Dream, K-1 etc... can't get enough of it, absolutely mint :D

nice one. I would also recommend you check out some of the old PRIDE events.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 03:02:22 PM
Just finished watching the Ultimate fighter season 1, the Forrest v Stephan fight was immense! can't wait to start season 2.

Also been working my way through some UFC events, strikeforce, WEC, Dream, K-1 etc... can't get enough of it, absolutely mint :D

Checkout diego sanchez vs clay guida..

Cracking fight one of the best I have seen.

like others have said the older days of pride & K1 with the likes of cro cop & wanderlei silva are great.

Have you seen the first ufc??  A good watch & will give you some idea of how the sport has evolved.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 03:19:04 PM
The most recent WEC event (Aldo vs Faber) had an immense fight in the prelims. I forget their names... One was from Japan, one was from.. erm.. somewhere else.

Check it out!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 03:22:16 PM
It was pretty funny watching Rashad deal with Shane Carwin in their camp. I get the feeling he didn't love the experience.

Would you!?!  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 03:29:33 PM
The most recent WEC event (Aldo vs Faber) had an immense fight in the prelims. I forget their names... One was from Japan, one was from.. erm.. somewhere else.

Check it out!

Chan Sung 'Korean Zombie' Jung vs Leonard Garcia. Joe Rogan called it the best fight of the decade or something.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 03:31:11 PM
It was pretty funny watching Rashad deal with Shane Carwin in their camp. I get the feeling he didn't love the experience.

Would you!?!  :lol:

I mean, it'd be a laugh just the once. I'm willing to admit he'd probably get the better of me.

But I am like 3 weight classes below him, so it's not exactly fair. Rashad is only 1 below. I guess my equivalent would probably be Anderson Silva, and I'm pretty sure I could f*** him up.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 03:37:20 PM
It was pretty funny watching Rashad deal with Shane Carwin in their camp. I get the feeling he didn't love the experience.

Would you!?!  :lol:

I mean, it'd be a laugh just the once. I'm willing to admit he'd probably get the better of me.

But I am like 3 weight classes below him, so it's not exactly fair. Rashad is only 1 below. I guess my equivalent would probably be Anderson Silva, and I'm pretty sure I could f*** him up.



Haha, but Carwin still outweighs him by about 50lbs though. That alotta meat, mr.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 06:33:51 PM
I have a bad feeling that Rashad is just going to come out there and out-wrestle Rampage for 15 minutes just like GSP vs Hardy.

I was watching some videos on ufc.com and it really struck me that Rampage isn't training with guys who are going to get him ready for Rashad--particularly his wrestling. The difference in the quality of their camps was pretty obvious, and I think it's going to result in Rashad being far more prepared than Rampage, no matter how much Rampage thinks this has been his best camp.
I don't believe that for a second, some of the dudes he's had in wrestling with him and advising him are f***ing top class. It's not like he spent the whole camp wrestling with Bisping.

Anyways, sticking £200 on Page winning, have all the faith in the world in him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 06:41:24 PM
I have a bad feeling that Rashad is just going to come out there and out-wrestle Rampage for 15 minutes just like GSP vs Hardy.

I was watching some videos on ufc.com and it really struck me that Rampage isn't training with guys who are going to get him ready for Rashad--particularly his wrestling. The difference in the quality of their camps was pretty obvious, and I think it's going to result in Rashad being far more prepared than Rampage, no matter how much Rampage thinks this has been his best camp.
I don't believe that for a second, some of the dudes he's had in wrestling with him and advising him are f***ing top class. It's not like he spent the whole camp wrestling with Bisping.

Anyways, sticking £200 on Page winning, have all the faith in the world in him.

What price you getting for that & where from??
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 06:45:27 PM
I have a bad feeling that Rashad is just going to come out there and out-wrestle Rampage for 15 minutes just like GSP vs Hardy.

I was watching some videos on ufc.com and it really struck me that Rampage isn't training with guys who are going to get him ready for Rashad--particularly his wrestling. The difference in the quality of their camps was pretty obvious, and I think it's going to result in Rashad being far more prepared than Rampage, no matter how much Rampage thinks this has been his best camp.
I don't believe that for a second, some of the dudes he's had in wrestling with him and advising him are f***ing top class. It's not like he spent the whole camp wrestling with Bisping.

Anyways, sticking £200 on Page winning, have all the faith in the world in him.

What price you getting for that & where from??
Estimated Returns :  366.67, William Hill.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 06:48:45 PM
I have a bad feeling that Rashad is just going to come out there and out-wrestle Rampage for 15 minutes just like GSP vs Hardy.

I was watching some videos on ufc.com and it really struck me that Rampage isn't training with guys who are going to get him ready for Rashad--particularly his wrestling. The difference in the quality of their camps was pretty obvious, and I think it's going to result in Rashad being far more prepared than Rampage, no matter how much Rampage thinks this has been his best camp.
I don't believe that for a second, some of the dudes he's had in wrestling with him and advising him are f***ing top class. It's not like he spent the whole camp wrestling with Bisping.

Anyways, sticking £200 on Page winning, have all the faith in the world in him.

What price you getting for that & where from??
Estimated Returns :  366.67, William Hill.

Canny bet that!

Good luck.

People seem to forget that Rampage is a good wrestler with great take down defence.

I honestly think that Rampage will go for the take down pretty early on & GnP a victory.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 06:53:43 PM
You're damn right about that. I don't think Evans wrestling/cardio or striking is up to much either, his chin seems like garbage and just to me seems a step behind Page. Evans does have that speed that mixed with his power could drop anyone, I just don't see it happening in this fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 08:36:22 PM
Is there a site where you can bet on more than just the main fight?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 09:24:11 PM
Is there a site where you can bet on more than just the main fight?
William Hill...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 27 May 2010, 08:14:19 PM
I know many dont like him but good luck to Bisping at 114. WAR BISPING!!!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Thursday 27 May 2010, 09:51:51 PM
Started watching Pride 1 last night and it was mint! Two dudes near the start, both about 6'9 and one was an ex sumo wrestler :lol: Quality stuff.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 27 May 2010, 10:04:58 PM
Started watching Pride 1 last night and it was mint! Two dudes near the start, both about 6'9 and one was an ex sumo wrestler :lol: Quality stuff.

 :thup: keep it up. There are some absolutely amazing fights/fighters from PRIDE. Things to look out for: Fedor, Sakuraba vs Gracie family, Open weight tournaments, Middleweight/Lightweight Grand Prix's, The unstoppable Wanderlei Silva, PRIDE Bushido events (which featured lighter weight classes ) and finally the wonderful production with big entrances, amazing video packages and good commentary. Enjoy!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 27 May 2010, 11:02:36 PM
For anyone who likes the ground game....I used to train with this kid and he is unreal.  Royce Gracie loves him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHSn82_eOrk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHSn82_eOrk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0647i1sUBLo&feature=related

BTW he is dave elliots son...the best BJJ black belt in the north east
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Friday 28 May 2010, 12:33:13 AM
TUF was immense this week.. Tito is such a moron :lol: Can't help but like the guy.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 29 May 2010, 02:47:17 PM
What time do the UFC events usually start and finish over here? Debating wether to stay up for UFC 114 tonight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 29 May 2010, 02:49:56 PM
Late, just watch it tomorrow morning man. Nee point staying up. Just avoid the thread till you've seen it. Is what I do.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 29 May 2010, 03:10:23 PM
It won't start till like 2am and the main event will not be on till about 430am. Best do as Burnip says and watch it the morra. That's what I do. My freeview box always f***s up the recording of the UFC for some reason so I usually end up catching the repeat.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 29 May 2010, 03:13:15 PM
Aye good point, I'll just download it in the morning. Mate's having it on over his house and I can't really be arsed to sit up until 4:30am, probably wont even be enjoying it by that point.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 29 May 2010, 03:26:38 PM
Predictions: Evans, Bisping, lil Nog, Russow, Sanchez
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 29 May 2010, 03:32:18 PM
Aye good point, I'll just download it in the morning. Mate's having it on over his house and I can't really be arsed to sit up until 4:30am, probably wont even be enjoying it by that point.

Have you seen TUF 10 yet? Blatantly need to see that before this UFC event.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 29 May 2010, 03:38:18 PM
Aye good point, I'll just download it in the morning. Mate's having it on over his house and I can't really be arsed to sit up until 4:30am, probably wont even be enjoying it by that point.

Have you seen TUF 10 yet? Blatantly need to see that before this UFC event.

Nah not yet, still working my way through season 2 and 11 and various live shows. Is TUF 10 where they're both coaches or something?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 29 May 2010, 03:44:29 PM
Aye good point, I'll just download it in the morning. Mate's having it on over his house and I can't really be arsed to sit up until 4:30am, probably wont even be enjoying it by that point.

Have you seen TUF 10 yet? Blatantly need to see that before this UFC event.

Nah not yet, still working my way through season 2 and 11 and various live shows. Is TUF 10 where they're both coaches or something?

Yeah, although it's very likely they'll show an extensive video package beforehand to build the fight up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 29 May 2010, 05:03:54 PM
Got 6 hours of espn HD recording, had to make room for it on my V+ box, just in case am too p*ssed when i get in.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 29 May 2010, 06:06:45 PM
Don't like chuck. Chuck for loser of the year.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 29 May 2010, 06:48:12 PM


TUF this year has been a borefest tbh


Im glad you said that. This is the first time I've watched TUF, and I can't believe how s*** ALL the fights have been. Have there been more then one fight that's ended before round 2 or 3 because of anything else then DQ? Im glad I download this s***, as I usually just watch about 10 min of each episode because the fights are so boring I just fast forward them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:10:09 AM
I'm very excited bout this, build up starting now, hope I make it to the fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:15:02 AM
No build up on my 'channel' just adverts :( Not that I'll have any chance of making it to the first fight like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:17:44 AM
Here is how much I respect/fear Dave.

I could ask for one, but I'm honestly incapable of typing the words.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:18:50 AM
Primeministered.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:19:21 AM
Has there just been a knock out on your channel TT? Not sure if this is a prelim fight or not.

EDIT: Nah.. Chuck v Evans later apparently :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:21:48 AM
Primeministered.

...?

Oh!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:23:21 AM
I'm watching ufc primetime, then countdown then live
at 1am. Am a but mortal so not expected to make it to the end, at
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:23:26 AM
How many fights before the main event?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:23:59 AM
I want a job in criminal justice :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:25:22 AM
You guys have some crazy adverts btw :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:26:31 AM
Requim for a dream; feel like gettng up
ad throwing some shadow punches lol.

Am so hyped I reckon I cud take both
on hehe.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:27:32 AM
You guys have some crazy adverts btw :lol:

you not watching espn, free in virgin
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:27:50 AM
The undercard starts at 9, what are you watching, SpikeTV?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:29:36 AM
The channel I'm watching has spike in bottom corner but I don't think it's live.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:29:43 AM
I've seen Primetime already, well, 3 eps of it. Dunno if there are more.

How do I see the prelims or countdown? No ESPN :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:30:01 AM
Requim for a dream; feel like gettng up
ad throwing some shadow punches lol.

Am so hyped I reckon I cud take both
on hehe.


:lol: Good night like?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:30:34 AM
The channel I'm watching has spike in bottom corner but I don't think it's live.

Yeah this is just some s*** they're showing until 9.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:31:23 AM
The channel I'm watching has spike in bottom corner but I don't think it's live.

Yeah this is just some s*** they're showing until 9.

What time will that be here? 3am? Fuuuuuck that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:33:44 AM
2am prelims, and 3am start of the card. Might be goddamn 4:30 before the main event. You'll never ever make it.

Cable guide has this listed as a 10pm - 1am event.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:35:37 AM
Hmmm.. been a while since I've pulled an all nighter without a help, may aswell give it a shot, f*** all to do tomorrow anyway.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:40:25 AM
:lol: It ends over here twenty minutes away from where you are now, and I know for a fact I'm never going to make it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:41:27 AM
:lol: It ends over here twenty minutes away from where you are now, and I know for a fact I'm never going to make it.

Howay man Mike lad, lash the coffees on.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:43:47 AM
Requim for a dream; feel like gettng up
ad throwing some shadow punches lol.

Am so hyped I reckon I cud take both
on hehe.


it's been alright, went out with the family for a meal for me bday, now on me mam
n dads couch watching the build up with a few bevvirs, everyones gone to bed Inc wor lass so just me me iPhone jacques john smiths and espn, u keep flaking and nearly fallong asleep then the build gets me going again. I gave about 5% chance of making this.

:lol: Good night like?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:46:19 AM
:lol: It ends over here twenty minutes away from where you are now, and I know for a fact I'm never going to make it.

Howay man Mike lad, lash the coffees on.

:lol: I was on some blue collar s*** this morning, I got nothing, man. You're cracking on me like you'll be around when the fight starts.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:50:33 AM
:lol: It ends over here twenty minutes away from where you are now, and I know for a fact I'm never going to make it.

Howay man Mike lad, lash the coffees on.

:lol: I was on some blue collar s*** this morning, I got nothing, man. You're cracking on me like you'll be around when the fight starts.

:lol: I'm struggling now ffs.. If I can just make it past 2:30 I should be get a second wind to take me until 5am. I remember staying up no problem for the WWE events when I was a kid, guess it's a sign of old age kicking in these days.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:52:31 AM
That's some sobering s*** when it starts coming down. I can't even eat a decent meal without getting the 'itis now.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:02:14 AM
What the f***, that midget show called 'half pint brawlers' looks immense :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:02:48 AM
Ok I'm going to bed. Goodbye UFC thread, I will see you once I've caught up.

GO RAMPAGE.

I think.. I dunno, I'm so conflicted.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:04:39 AM
Stay up man, take the pain
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:06:19 AM
Stay up man, take the pain

No ESPN, would prefer to wait and HD it up at some point tomorrow than to try and struggle through a poor quality LEGAL online stream. Good Luck though boys.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:07:57 AM
I don't mind who wins, tho think Evans has the edge. Rampage is not prepared
properly and too intelligent or rampage.

I just hope it's toe to toe and after they shake hands or setup for a rematch
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:09:01 AM
What the f***, that midget show called 'half pint brawlers' looks immense :lol:

We have a midget combat show?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:09:22 AM
Stay up man, take the pain

No ESPN, would prefer to wait and HD it up at some point tomorrow than to try and struggle through a poor quality LEGAL online stream. Good Luck though boys.

gutter espn HD free on virgin here, about bloody
time they've been good for
something like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:09:39 AM
Midget Wrestling has been around for a while, Spike TV is now embracing it. More power to them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:09:45 AM
What the f***, that midget show called 'half pint brawlers' looks immense :lol:

We have a midget combat show?

http://www.halfpintbrawlers.com/

:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 01:12:40 AM
What the f***, that midget show called 'half pint brawlers' looks immense :lol:

We have a midget combat show?

http://www.halfpintbrawlers.com/

:lol:

God, Spike is unwatchable television.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 30 May 2010, 03:20:28 AM
Mike, do you have one of those unmentionable things that rhymes with scream?  PM, please.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 30 May 2010, 03:31:30 AM
Did my best, Bonk. Hope you get what you need.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 03:32:37 AM
Hathaway was fuking class, well done lad
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Sunday 30 May 2010, 03:49:26 AM
Brilliant win by Hathaway - that knee was brutal
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 30 May 2010, 03:51:31 AM
Did my best, Bonk. Hope you get what you need.

I keep finding things, thanks Mikey.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:31:39 AM
Rampage has no chance :weep:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:34:58 AM
Wandered in nicely in timke for this.

Should be class.

Jesus f***ing christ what a f***ing punch by f***ing Russow.

f***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:37:35 AM
Wandered in nicely in timke for this.

Should be class.

Jesus f***ing christ what a f***ing punch by f***ing Russow.

f***.

Lovely knock out but he was getting owned the first 2 rounds.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:38:05 AM
Wandered in nicely in timke for this.

Should be class.

Jesus f***ing christ what a f***ing punch by f***ing Russow.



f***.

Seriously. That was crazy.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:41:27 AM
Knee to the body....OUCH.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:44:48 AM
Please lose Bisping.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 30 May 2010, 05:14:28 AM
Wandered in nicely in timke for this.

Should be class.

Jesus f***ing christ what a f***ing punch by f***ing Russow.

f***.

Lovely knock out but he was getting owned the first 2 rounds.

Aye he doesn't look like much of a hero, still pretty awesome KO though.

Solid win for Bisping, he and Miller really get on it would seem. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 30 May 2010, 05:21:42 AM
Man, that preview video was like something out of WWE. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 30 May 2010, 05:31:41 AM
Heavily pro-Rampage crowd. :lol:

Damn, this is awesome.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 30 May 2010, 05:34:00 AM
My brother was going mental like, saying how they're gonna kick s*** out of each other. And just as I say 'No they won't' Rampage takes a smack to the mush. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Sunday 30 May 2010, 05:55:59 AM
Rashad wins on points
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 30 May 2010, 12:32:52 PM
My brother was going mental like, saying how they're gonna kick s*** out of each other. And just as I say 'No they won't' Rampage takes a smack to the mush. :lol:

That start was amazing.

Awesome fight in the end, Rampage really f***ed up by not going after Rashad when he had him rocked. The ref almost jumped in on it when Rampage had him down and was pounding away.

Glad Evans won, all in all. Rampage is the more likeable fighter in general, but he deserved to get his ass handed to him with all that's gone on.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:40:34 PM
The rematch should be good, hopefully Rampage is better conditioned for it but he was simply beat by intelligence and speed, he had only one answer his strength and didn't follow up on it.

I'm gutted for Rampage, it's going to hurt him hard but hopefully he keeps going and comes back stronger, and better mentally prepared.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:54:01 PM
I think that a fully focused, properly conditioned and clear minded Rampage can win the rematch.

Good card all in all. A good night for our British fighters; Hathaway looks a real talent, still only 22 and a solid win for Bisping. I just wish he would go for broke on occasion and throw caution to the wind in search of a finish; but Miller is a dangerous guy who I like and wish all the best for the future after his tragic personal life recently.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 30 May 2010, 04:58:07 PM
Oh, and little Nog 100% lost that fight too.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 30 May 2010, 05:25:45 PM
f***ing Evans, what a bitch he is

if you gonna talk about standing and banging and knocking out people then at least stick to your words

pussy

Apart from one big hit in the 3rd round he outclassed Rampage from start to finish.

Landed some really nice shots and was generally the aggressor while Rampage kind of stood there waiting for something miraculous to happen that would hand him the fight.

Rampage was the real pussy, he should have gone for broke in the 3rd, especially after the knockdown. But he knew it was a one off fluke shot and if he went after him he'd probably end up on his ass.

No reason for there to be a rematch any time soon either. Evans will surely get a shot at Shogun and rightfully so after such a convincing win.

Really was pissing me off last night thinking about the matches Anderson Silva could be having in the division while he's toiling away in the MW division.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 30 May 2010, 06:10:12 PM
Really impressed with Jason Brilz despite the absolutely robbery. Also very impressed with Hathaway too, I hope he joins a world class gym to fulfill his potential.

Evans is going to takedown and hold Shogun for 25 minutes in their title fight so I hope Shogun works on his takedown defense. If Shogun lands one clean strike then Evans will crumble like he did against Machida.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 07:17:57 PM
I thought it was a decent event, not really a bad fight amongst them, thought that Hathaway looked canny immense.. Also the crowd was annoying as f***, booing on all the time when a fight slowed down and being totally fickle for the last fight booing the s*** out of Evans then bumming him after he won, daft :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 30 May 2010, 07:21:22 PM
I have a bad feeling that Rashad is just going to come out there and out-wrestle Rampage for 15 minutes just like GSP vs Hardy.

I was watching some videos on ufc.com and it really struck me that Rampage isn't training with guys who are going to get him ready for Rashad--particularly his wrestling. The difference in the quality of their camps was pretty obvious, and I think it's going to result in Rashad being far more prepared than Rampage, no matter how much Rampage thinks this has been his best camp.
I don't believe that for a second, some of the dudes he's had in wrestling with him and advising him are f***ing top class. It's not like he spent the whole camp wrestling with Bisping.

Anyways, sticking £200 on Page winning, have all the faith in the world in him.

Gutted :lol::lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 30 May 2010, 07:24:11 PM
I have a bad feeling that Rashad is just going to come out there and out-wrestle Rampage for 15 minutes just like GSP vs Hardy.

I was watching some videos on ufc.com and it really struck me that Rampage isn't training with guys who are going to get him ready for Rashad--particularly his wrestling. The difference in the quality of their camps was pretty obvious, and I think it's going to result in Rashad being far more prepared than Rampage, no matter how much Rampage thinks this has been his best camp.
I don't believe that for a second, some of the dudes he's had in wrestling with him and advising him are f***ing top class. It's not like he spent the whole camp wrestling with Bisping.

Anyways, sticking £200 on Page winning, have all the faith in the world in him.

Gutted :lol::lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 30 May 2010, 08:01:10 PM
(http://simpsonitos.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/homer_they_fall_painting.png)

Russow vs Duffee
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 30 May 2010, 08:05:32 PM
 :lol: Did you see Duffee's legs? Joe Rogan got it right when he labelled them 'horse legs'.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 30 May 2010, 08:28:45 PM
Was nice to see a fat lad in the UFC. Gives you hope.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 30 May 2010, 08:32:16 PM
Did anyone else see the look Joe Rogan gave Mike Goldberg before the main event when he said "This is the most anticipated fight, in UFC history"?

It was like, "wtf!?! course it's not!"  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 30 May 2010, 08:34:39 PM
Was nice to see a fat lad in the UFC. Gives you hope.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mmafighting.com/media/2008/09/roynelson.jpg)

 :snod:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 30 May 2010, 08:37:08 PM
Jesus christ, I thought he was going to be slightly podgy! :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:11:10 AM
Was nice to see a fat lad in the UFC. Gives you hope.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mmafighting.com/media/2008/09/roynelson.jpg)

 :snod:


I love Big Country. Sitting on your opponents arms and then pounding their defensless face is what the sport is all about imo.

Anyway, just finished watching this (refused to watch non-hd version). A little disappointed Rampage didn't mush Evans' face in when he had the chance in the third, ffs I stood up and started punching for him. Apparently this does not help.

Happy with both British performances too. Like Bisping or not, it's good for the UK and UK gyms if they're seen to be producing decent contenders. Didn't quite work with Rampage unfortunately.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 10:38:42 AM
Canny card.

Thought Hathaway looked class, Sanchez is a good fighter who has fought the best in the business
Really good win.

Bisping looked really sharp against a dangerous Miller & he seemed to be throwing alot more weight
behind his punches.

nog looked s*** & should of lost that fight. ( still think he's class though )

Duffee got KTFO!!! the ufc & Dana will be gutted about this, he was being mooted as the next Matt Hughes ( clean living, God fearing, UFC poster boy )

Evans looked really sharp & fought a great fight, Rampage looked out of shape ( ring rust ) he just couldn't muster the energy to finish him in the third.

Also  Diabate looked class against cain, I've not seen too much of him but he looked awesome..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 10:41:07 AM
Duffee will be back, I can't see this stopping Dana turning him into the poster boy. He's got plenty of time.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 12:10:39 PM
He will be back no doubt, But his chin looked very suspect can't see him doing much tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 07:14:31 PM
He will be back no doubt, But his chin looked very suspect can't see him doing much tbh.

Definitely agree with that. I'm betting that he's been knocked out a few times before outside of MMA for him to go down that easy. Most fighters wouldn't have gone out from that shot.

With the main event, I said it before the fight and I think I was proven right: Rampage made a big mistake with his training camp. It was obvious from the build up and even more obvious during and after the fight that Evans was way better prepared than Rampage. IMO, Rampage was training with guys that were below him, while Evans was training with monsters like Carwin and GSP. It makes a huge difference. Also, he clearly wasn't prepared to combat Evans' wrestling and that comes down to his training camp.

Evans is a bit of a tool but I respect that he worked harder than Rampage and was rewarded with the victory.

BTW, does anyone actually care about the next fight card? I'm finding it really hard to get into Liddell vs Franklin and the rest of the card doesn't look too stellar. Thiago v Kampmann might end up being a decent fight and there's a good chance someone is getting knocked out in the Rothwell fight, but nothing in that card really stands out to me.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 07:24:22 PM
He will be back no doubt, But his chin looked very suspect can't see him doing much tbh.

Somewhat agree, but it's to earlt to tell because of the fact that he was totally gassed and the punch hit him right in the temple. Awsome knockout though :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 07:27:38 PM
I think it was just a case of Duffee was completely and utterly gassed out. Did you see him in his corner at the end of the second round? He looked well and truely f***ed.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 07:28:14 PM
He will be back no doubt, But his chin looked very suspect can't see him doing much tbh.

Definitely agree with that. I'm betting that he's been knocked out a few times before outside of MMA for him to go down that easy. Most fighters wouldn't have gone out from that shot.

With the main event, I said it before the fight and I think I was proven right: Rampage made a big mistake with his training camp. It was obvious from the build up and even more obvious during and after the fight that Evans was way better prepared than Rampage. IMO, Rampage was training with guys that were below him, while Evans was training with monsters like Carwin and GSP. It makes a huge difference. Also, he clearly wasn't prepared to combat Evans' wrestling and that comes down to his training camp.

Evans is a bit of a tool but I respect that he worked harder than Rampage and was rewarded with the victory.

BTW, does anyone actually care about the next fight card? I'm finding it really hard to get into Liddell vs Franklin and the rest of the card doesn't look too stellar. Thiago v Kampmann might end up being a decent fight and there's a good chance someone is getting knocked out in the Rothwell fight, but nothing in that card really stands out to me.

Nah, it's clearly a bit of a filler event. Not arsed at all.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:51:01 PM
Aye, 115 is a bit of a filler. However, it does feature a lot of fighters who are generally considered to be good strikers especially in the main event and co-main event. Quite looking forward to 116, especially the Wanderlei vs Sexyama fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 10:36:21 PM
I'm pretty excited about Lesnar v Carwin, I have to admit. Mostly because it's almost certain to end in spectacular fashion.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 12 June 2010, 08:41:26 AM
Ufc 115 tonight.

Liddell vs Franklin: tough fight to call I like both fighters, I think franklin will grind out a decision.
 
Cro Cop vs Barry: Cro Cop has really struggled in the ufc & I think he'll get knocked out in rd 1
Barry is way underestimated imo.
 
Thiago vs Kampman: Think this could be fight of the night, Both fighters like to stand. Thiago rd 3 Ko.
 
Rothwell vs yevel: Haven't got a clue about this fight tbh, the only time I've seen Yevel was when he got ko'd by JDS. Rothwell 1st round KO??

Should be a good watch..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 13 June 2010, 01:21:46 AM
Franklin, Barry, Thiago, Rothwell, MacDonald.

I think this might be the end of Mirko Cro Cop :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 13 June 2010, 11:24:53 PM
Brilliant, brilliant card. I HEART Cro Cop!!

Liddell was winning the fight up until the KO. He just got caught sweet. Doesnt particularly say anything about if hes still got it or not. He was on the attack and got clipped, simple as that; he didnt take a massive arse whipping. I hope he comes back.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 13 June 2010, 11:29:44 PM
Barry had far too much respect for Cro Cop. I think Liddell should have one final match against Tito Ortiz. Kampmann was very impressive, I think he should fight the winner of Thiago Alves and Jon Fitch to fight the winner of GSP and Kos.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 13 June 2010, 11:31:46 PM
Chuck was pressing forward but tbh I think his chin is weak now. All fighters say once you get ko'ed your never the same. Hope he calls it a day now.
 
Barry should of beat cro cop he showed him far to much respect.
 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 13 June 2010, 11:32:59 PM
Barry had far too much respect for Cro Cop. I think Liddell should have one final match against Tito Ortiz. Kampmann was very impressive, I think he should fight the winner of Thiago Alves and Jon Fitch to fight the winner of GSP and Kos.

Did you read my mind??
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 14 June 2010, 12:04:44 AM
Barry should have beat Cro Cop? :lol: You think its respect that lost him the fight? Thats mental.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 14 June 2010, 08:45:02 AM
Barry should have beat Cro Cop? :lol: You think its respect that lost him the fight? Thats mental.

Yeah no doubt about it. After the second knock down he just stood off him, Cro cop said he was seeing double????

Cro cop is so far past it, He's to slow now. What did he do in the fight that impressed you??

He walks straight forward throwing straights. He's so one dimensional that's why he was caught twice by Barry, Mma has evolved so much since the days when he was in his prime.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 14 June 2010, 11:08:37 PM
I agree on the too much respect front. They clearly wanted to stand but Cro Cop knew at the end of the day they were there to fight, by whatever means. Barry should've jumped on him and pounded away after dropping him twice.

Glad Franklin won like :)

Also, impressed by Kampmann. Impressive comeback streak/performance(s) after getting a pummelling from Semtex... :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 15 June 2010, 01:18:58 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/6/14/1517234/ufc-115-mirko-cro-cop-talks#comments

Quote
"In addition to winning the Pride Grand Prix Finals, [UFC 115] it’s my favorite fight of my career [but] most of the training proved to me that I am now too old for this…I don’t know about a new contract with the UFC. I believe that I gave this game a lot, I fought with the greatest fighters," Cro Cop said.

"For 20 years I lived this life and now I have no motivation for the fight, no mental strength for all the Spartan training. I am no longer so hungry for victory. I will not stop training, but if I am asleep I’ll stay in bed and practice an hour later."

"I have some [seminar] contacts around the seminar circuit in the U.S., Australia, Europe and even Brazil," Cro Cop said.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 19 June 2010, 11:39:47 PM
Just seen TUF on 5Usa, how many eps is it in? I know the finale is actually on tonight as well.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 20 June 2010, 02:17:42 AM
Keith Jardine has three consecutive losses now, surely he will be cut if he loses to Matt Hamill tonight?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 06:00:36 PM
Glad Court McGee won TUF, though I didn't have anything against the other guy. I'm sure UFC were happy to, as Court seems like a guy they can really market, with his past problems and all.

But let's get on to the big MMA story (and I don't mean Werdum vs. Fedor).

Lesnar vs. Carwin. Who's it going to be?

I think Carwin in the first round by glorious knock out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 06:58:51 PM
I think that if Lesnar can avoid the big KO punch and take it to the ground then I think he'll win comfortably.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 07:45:26 PM
I think that if Lesnar can avoid the big KO punch and take it to the ground then I think he'll win comfortably.

I hope this so very much
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 09:02:22 PM
I think that if Lesnar can avoid the big KO punch and take it to the ground then I think he'll win comfortably.

I hope this so very much

Lesnar is a super freak athlete. I know Carwin is a strong wrestler but I just can't see how Carwin can cope with his freakish strength and agility. Like Joe Rogan said, Lesnar is the product of pure blood viking warriors f***ing pure blood viking warriors for hundreds of years out in the woods of Minnesota; apart from a big KO punch I don't see Carwin winning.

That said, what kind of shape will Brock be in after his terrible illness? That is a huge factor to take into account imo.

Should be good.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 09:04:55 PM
Lesner's body has totally changed since the WWE. Obviously lack of drugs is the main issue like.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 09:12:44 PM
Lesner's body has totally changed since the WWE. Obviously lack of drugs is the main issue like.


100% different training methods... also.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 09:18:20 PM
Who do you think would win in the clinch between Lesnar and Carwin?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 22 June 2010, 09:20:56 PM
Who do you think would win in the clinch between Lesnar and Carwin?
As in what?

I could very well see Carwin pushing Lesnar against the fence and landing some hard shots, but I think Lesnar could just as easy win takedowns from that position.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Wednesday 23 June 2010, 02:07:58 AM
Wanderlei out of 116 due to injured ribs, Chris Leben to replace him against Sexyama.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 23 June 2010, 02:20:23 AM
I hope to god Lesnar win. Will not hear the end of it from the MMA hardcore fans who hate his guts just because of his background if he loses.

That being said, I think Lesnar will win. Have seen some videos of his training camp, and some videos where he is training with Randy Couture, and he looks lean and fit. He says he is in great shape, weighs around 280, and therefore won't have to cut as much weight like has had to before which can only be good for his cardio. His athletisism, speed and wrestling ability will win this for him. He is more polished technically as well, according to Couture, and if anyone should know it, it's him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 23 June 2010, 02:21:13 AM
Wanderlei out of 116 due to injured ribs, Chris Leben to replace him against Sexyama.

Damn, he doesn't care much for restitution, does he? :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Thursday 24 June 2010, 03:45:24 AM
Who do you think would win in the clinch between Lesnar and Carwin?
As in what?

I could very well see Carwin pushing Lesnar against the fence and landing some hard shots, but I think Lesnar could just as easy win takedowns from that position.

I think that this is where the fight will be won or lost. It will quickly end up with one of the fighters pushed up against the cage and whoever wins that battle will win the fight, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Thursday 24 June 2010, 09:16:53 AM
Can't wait for this fight.

I think lesnar has got this, Carwins chin doesn't look great to me.

Lesnar by first rd ko.

(although I thought Mir would beat Carwin) :undecided:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 24 June 2010, 11:41:43 AM
I hope to god Lesnar win. Will not hear the end of it from the MMA hardcore fans who hate his guts just because of his background if he loses.

Most people hate him because he's a complete tit, tbf.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 24 June 2010, 06:29:26 PM
And he behaves like a tit in the Octagon because people booed him from day one, because of his background. f***ing loved it when he flipped of the crowd when he beat Mir.

In interviews he is honest and confident but down to earth, like a fighter should be.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 24 June 2010, 07:40:23 PM
He basically brings a bit of the best part of proffesional wrestling to UFC with the way he acts in the Octagon and on the mic. Its refreshing iyam.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 June 2010, 07:52:13 PM
He basically brings a bit of the best part of proffesional wrestling to UFC with the way he acts in the Octagon and on the mic. Its refreshing iyam.

TBH Pride did the whole wee sports entertaiment thing ages ago.   Look at Rampage they wanted him to say he was homeless and eats out of a bin
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 24 June 2010, 08:02:01 PM
Well its refreshing in the UFC. A bit of pro wrestling mic skills and the general pro wrestling hardman act makes MMA a whole lot more exciting.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 24 June 2010, 08:03:42 PM
He basically brings a bit of the best part of proffesional wrestling to UFC with the way he acts in the Octagon and on the mic. Its refreshing iyam.

TBH Pride did the whole wee sports entertaiment thing ages ago.   Look at Rampage they wanted him to say he was homeless and eats out of a bin

Didn't he go on TV and act like an ape?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 24 June 2010, 08:08:15 PM
What I meant was that he brings mic skills and the ability to play the heel well and anger an arena full of people to good effect, all of which he learnt in pro wrestling. I didnt mean the whole daft pro wrestling storylines and stuff.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 June 2010, 08:15:04 PM
What I meant was that he brings mic skills and the ability to play the heel well and anger an arena full of people to good effect, all of which he learnt in pro wrestling. I didnt mean the whole daft pro wrestling storylines and stuff.

Good example is Tito.   Total dick but people love to hate him
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Thursday 24 June 2010, 08:24:40 PM
I want Brock to get knocked out because he talked sh*t about the Canadian health system.  ;D

I agree that Brock is a good thing for the UFC but I'm definitely one of those guys who loves to hate him. I'll pay for the PPV because I want to see him get humbled. UFC needs more guys like that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 June 2010, 09:32:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz2kxTc7vYE&feature=related

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 24 June 2010, 09:34:30 PM
What I meant was that he brings mic skills and the ability to play the heel well and anger an arena full of people to good effect, all of which he learnt in pro wrestling. I didnt mean the whole daft pro wrestling storylines and stuff.

Strangely, the way UFC do their hype packages, and let the Fighters just talk trash to each other, is classic old school (AWA, etc) style wrestling build up!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 24 June 2010, 09:51:37 PM
What I meant was that he brings mic skills and the ability to play the heel well and anger an arena full of people to good effect, all of which he learnt in pro wrestling. I didnt mean the whole daft pro wrestling storylines and stuff.

Strangely, the way UFC do their hype packages, and let the Fighters just talk trash to each other, is classic old school (AWA, etc) style wrestling build up!

Very true but very few are any good at it. They aint no Ric Flair. Woooooo
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 24 June 2010, 09:52:40 PM
What I meant was that he brings mic skills and the ability to play the heel well and anger an arena full of people to good effect, all of which he learnt in pro wrestling. I didnt mean the whole daft pro wrestling storylines and stuff.

Strangely, the way UFC do their hype packages, and let the Fighters just talk trash to each other, is classic old school (AWA, etc) style wrestling build up!

Very true but very few are any good at it. They aint no Ric Flair. Woooooo
Matt Hamill?!  :frantic:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 24 June 2010, 10:17:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVRuhNhdFh8


More of these entrances please! :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 24 June 2010, 11:19:59 PM
MORE YOU WILL HAVE!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dNs4aKbG30   :smitten: :smitten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ThGNl1KqgQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tyc3Zjp25g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-It91_1NHxY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUfqa8zLdYg



Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 25 June 2010, 05:55:21 PM
(http://middleeasy.com/images/stories/organizations/strikeforcela/fedorplush.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 25 June 2010, 07:23:58 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 25 June 2010, 07:30:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz2kxTc7vYE&feature=related



I love it when Dana asks him if he has ever been kicked in the leg and Toney goes "Yeah, front kick, back kick, side check kick".  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 27 June 2010, 06:28:01 PM
Well, that's Fedors reputation down the toilet then.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 27 June 2010, 06:45:46 PM
Fedor looses to Werdum got damn it, nice arm bar

Damn, way to go with the no warning spoilers, man.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 27 June 2010, 07:33:36 PM
Thats's why mma so good!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 27 June 2010, 08:23:24 PM
Fedor looses to Werdum got damn it, nice arm bar

Damn, way to go with the no warning spoilers, man.

pwnd :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 28 June 2010, 02:06:10 AM
Just watched the fight. Wow, how anticlimatic. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 28 June 2010, 10:11:59 AM
Well, that's Fedors reputation down the toilet then.

First proper loss in 7 years.  I would never say its toilet time yet.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 28 June 2010, 04:57:35 PM
He kept going in to that arm-bar though, that is what makes me think it's something wrong.
Fedor didn't seem to be him self in that fight imo

Nah he just thought Werdum was really hurt & went for the finish..

He'll be back..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 28 June 2010, 05:15:38 PM
Well, that's Fedors reputation down the toilet then.

First proper loss in 7 years.  I would never say its toilet time yet.

Ok, maybe toilet time is taking it a bit far. Hes been getting a lot of critisism because of his M-1 Global connection, and since he doesn't sign with UFC without them getting co-promotion people often thinks he is dodging fights with the top HW in the world. As long as he was unbeaten though, there was still this mystique around him, but now he has lost to a UFC cast off. Dana must be creaming his pants after this. If UFC went into new negotiations with Fedor/M-1, they would not have a good enough case this time around to demand co-promotion of the event..

His reputation may not have taken a nosedive, but his stock certainly has. Strikeforce took a beating too, as it seemed like this fight was only to build up a fight between Overeem and Fedor. What happens now? Only winners here are UFC.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 29 June 2010, 11:11:39 PM
http://latestmmanewsnow.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/dana-white-fedor-just-got-beat-by-a-guy-who-couldnt-cut-it-in-the-ufc/


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UFC president Dana White was one of many who watched as Fedor suffered his first defeat in ten years to the heavily decorated Brazillian Jiu-Jistu practitioner Fabricio Werdum.  White who has been very vocal on his thoughts of the Russian heavyweight claimed he felt vindicated while on tour for UFC 116.

“I’ve been saying it for years, Fedor is not a top 10 heavyweight. He just got beat by a guy who couldn’t cut it in the UFC in the first round. There’s at least 10 fighters in the UFC right now who would beat Fedor even worse.”

Despite the harsh criticism White stated he would still be willing to offer the former WAMMA champion a new contract if he wishes to sign on with the UFC.

“Tell you what, if he wants to sign with the UFC now, the previous contract where I offered him an insane amount of money is off the table. I’ll give him a new contract, 20K to show and 20K to win. If he doesn’t accept it, too bad.”

Kind of confirms what Im saying, although im sure this is Dana showing some good old fashioned schadenfreude as well :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 29 June 2010, 11:47:22 PM
The only reason Dana White wanted to sign Fedor was so one of his guys could end his streak. Now that it's broken, I can't see why he would go over his way to sign him anymore. The last bit in that article is obviously bullshit. Why would he want to sign him for a ridiculous amount of money, if he thought he wasn't top 10 HW in the first place? Kind of contradicting himself, which isn't unusual for Dana, but my point stands that Fedors stock fell dramatically after his streak was ended by a guy who couldn't cut it in the UFC.

Doesn't make Dana less of a cock though. Fedor is humble and respectable, even in defeat as we all learnt now. Fedor deserves better than those comments by Dana.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 29 June 2010, 11:57:10 PM
He never seems worked up or especially happy when he wins either though
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Wednesday 30 June 2010, 09:37:14 AM
http://latestmmanewsnow.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/dana-white-fedor-just-got-beat-by-a-guy-who-couldnt-cut-it-in-the-ufc/


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UFC president Dana White was one of many who watched as Fedor suffered his first defeat in ten years to the heavily decorated Brazillian Jiu-Jistu practitioner Fabricio Werdum.  White who has been very vocal on his thoughts of the Russian heavyweight claimed he felt vindicated while on tour for UFC 116.

“I’ve been saying it for years, Fedor is not a top 10 heavyweight. He just got beat by a guy who couldn’t cut it in the UFC in the first round. There’s at least 10 fighters in the UFC right now who would beat Fedor even worse.”

Despite the harsh criticism White stated he would still be willing to offer the former WAMMA champion a new contract if he wishes to sign on with the UFC.

“Tell you what, if he wants to sign with the UFC now, the previous contract where I offered him an insane amount of money is off the table. I’ll give him a new contract, 20K to show and 20K to win. If he doesn’t accept it, too bad.”

Kind of confirms what Im saying, although im sure this is Dana showing some good old fashioned schadenfreude as well :lol:

Give your head a f***ing shake man Dana...

Like who???

Werdum caught him in a armbar all the best fighters get caught, look at Anderson silva when he tapped to the flying heel hook by Chonan. (possibly the best sub ever)

People get beat & come back stronger. Gsp, Silva , Bj penn , Brock etc etc...

I'm not a Fedor fan & I think he is ducking the UFC but Dana talks so much s***!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 30 June 2010, 10:02:46 AM
Thing is as i see it, it was a arm-bar which he almost seemed to let Verdum do, it wasn't a crazy knockout or such.

Fedor almost seemed fed up, didn't looked all that worked up about losing, found that particularly strange.

Soon as you go to the ground with a guy who has BJJ at his level your in trouble.   Fedor had no chance with how he got caught. The worst thing you can do in a submission is to thrash about trying to get out.  He stayed calm and relaxed but it was in far to tight.


EVERYONE GETS CAUGHT AT SOMETIME
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 30 June 2010, 10:03:37 AM
Fedor almost seemed fed up, didn't looked all that worked up about losing, found that particularly strange.

He looks fed up and ready to sleep everytime i see him.  Thats what fedor does
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 2 July 2010, 10:12:16 AM
Wll back to MMA training tonight after 6 months off....Going to be brutal!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Friday 2 July 2010, 12:28:49 PM
Wll back to MMA training tonight after 6 months off....Going to be brutal!!

Where you training like mate??
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 2 July 2010, 12:34:53 PM
I honestly don't know how someone would like to do mma on a hobby basis. I mean, I've never been in a fight in my entire life, be it in a controlled environment or on the streets or what ever, but I could probably squeeze out a tear by bitchslapping myself. :lol:

I truly respect people who can go through with it, no matter what level they are on. Pain sucks.

Fun to watch though, from the softest, most comfortable spot in my sofa. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 2 July 2010, 08:04:52 PM
Wll back to MMA training tonight after 6 months off....Going to be brutal!!

Where you training like mate??

I always heard that there was some guy who trained near Eldon Square, think he was a pretty old respected British Guy.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Friday 2 July 2010, 08:15:41 PM
Wll back to MMA training tonight after 6 months off....Going to be brutal!!

Where you training like mate??

I always heard that there was some guy who trained near Eldon Square, think he was a pretty old respected British Guy.
Just like the Kung Fu Masters of old, MMA gyms are shrouded in mystery.....
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 2 July 2010, 08:17:46 PM
 :lol:Its exactly like that!

Its probably the big bearded homeless guy you always see walking about, he's some aged saged MMA Master.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 2 July 2010, 09:50:52 PM
Wll back to MMA training tonight after 6 months off....Going to be brutal!!
I honestly don't know how someone would like to do mma on a hobby basis. I mean, I've never been in a fight in my entire life, be it in a controlled environment or on the streets or what ever, but I could probably squeeze out a tear by bitchslapping myself. :lol:

I truly respect people who can go through with it, no matter what level they are on. Pain sucks.

Fun to watch though, from the softest, most comfortable spot in my sofa. :lol:

Tbh i dont do much stand up i musch prefer to grapple.  I also dont "fight" maybe one day i will have one or two semi pro.  I love BJJ though

Wll back to MMA training tonight after 6 months off....Going to be brutal!!

Where you training like mate??

I always heard that there was some guy who trained near Eldon Square, think he was a pretty old respected British Guy.


I used to train with him.  Only proble is be moved to north shields and its to far away to travel.  I now train with his best stunet and about 4 purple belts in BJJ. 

Dave is amazing and his son is going to be even better.  He is one of very few 'home grown' British black belts and the first ever BJJ black belt in the North East.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2728/17/103/503013673/n503013673_1628428_4556362.jpg) :smitten:
(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1628429&id=503013673)   :smitten:


(http://graciebarranewcastle.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/2009-10-24-at-14-03-58.jpg?w=460)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0647i1sUBLo


I train at the Faktory now
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Saturday 3 July 2010, 10:01:34 PM
Something coming on tonight, right? Worthwhile card?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 3 July 2010, 10:02:36 PM
Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin

Lesnar vs Carwin
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 3 July 2010, 10:52:27 PM
(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2866/sexyama12.jpg)

vs

(http://www.mmahq.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/11947.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 3 July 2010, 11:47:45 PM
(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2866/sexyama12.jpg)

vs


I just cum!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 4 July 2010, 02:37:35 AM
Watching the prelims on TV now. Not sure if I'll watch the main stuff.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 4 July 2010, 02:46:57 AM
:lol: s***, I doubt that I'll make it.

This prelim fight is pretty good, tbh. One of the guys fights like a fake ass Apollo Creed.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 4 July 2010, 02:55:59 AM
:lol: Holy s*** that guy got cracked.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 4 July 2010, 02:58:07 AM
What was he thinking there?

:lol: I don't know enough about the sport to speculate. I know it didn't work out at all, though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 4 July 2010, 06:19:27 AM
I don't know how to make a hidden content button, so don't read further if you haven't watched UFC116.

Maybe I'm naive but I don't think Dana has any control over the refs. But regardless of that, I thought that Lesnar was defending himself and it would have been harsh to end that fight.

But bottom line is that this was the best card in a long time. They were all great fights with some great finishes. Well worth the money.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 4 July 2010, 02:28:03 PM
One of the best UFC events in recent memory.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 4 July 2010, 02:36:19 PM
Warning spoilers below!!






No way should it have been stopped?? He was defending himself by covering up!! Also he kicked
out twice. carwin gassed big style.

Supprised how much brock backed off mind.

What a great f***ing card Leben is a dog, chris lytle lookes class & Bonnar is truley the american physco..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 4 July 2010, 04:22:59 PM
SPOILERS

Like f*** they should've stopped the fight. Brock Lesnar can cover his whole head with 1 of his arms ffs. People have just got a massive chip on their shoulder re: Brock.

Anyway, GTFI. It seems the trick to making someone tap, is not to learn perfect technique, but just get arms big enough so that even the poorest of chokes is unbearable.

GET THE f*** IN
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 4 July 2010, 04:40:22 PM
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: CaPiTaL cHaP on Sunday 4 July 2010, 05:14:34 PM
Just watched it. What a f**king embarrassment that that was for a a title fight. How a dude can tire himself out in 1 round, spending half of it smacking the other guys arms was a school fight. I'll give Lesnar credit for at doing some stamina training but watching the way he backed off while under attack was ridiculous. Neither of these guys have much brains when it comes to fighting. Carwin had ample opportunity to finish that fight with a lock when Lesnar was all over the place. Went for a glory finish and blew himself out by punching Lesnar's forearms.

Rather watch fighters like GSP any day of the week, got genuine skill and strategy. This was just watching 2 bullys breath really hard on each other.

I reckon about half the people on this board, if they miraculously turned 6 ft 4 and 23st could look at those 2 and think 'i could do that.' How many could watch a real mixed martial artist with a great grappling game and think that kind of ability is remotely attainable.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 4 July 2010, 05:38:51 PM
God, some of you are so full of s***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 4 July 2010, 05:54:34 PM
(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/129469/34hvs4x.gif)

Gerald Harris' Slam KO from last night! Love the facial expression of Joe Silva in the background  ;D
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 4 July 2010, 09:14:11 PM
Just finished it, feel pretty f***ing pumped up after that event :lol: Awesome stuff.

Spoiler
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 4 July 2010, 10:20:30 PM
ESPN will be showing The Korean Zombie vs Leonard Garcia fight from WEC 48 tonight at 03:00am. For those who haven't seen it; the fight has been labeled as one of the greatest of all time, with Joe Rogan declaring it the fight of the decade. Be sure not to miss it!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 4 July 2010, 10:33:12 PM
ESPN will be showing The Korean Zombie vs Leonard Garcia fight from WEC 48 tonight at 03:00am. For those who haven't seen it; the fight has been labeled as one of the greatest of all time, with Joe Rogan declaring it the fight of the decade. Be sure not to miss it!
Cracking fight that, I love Chan Sung Jung fights, Garcia ain't half bad either.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: CaPiTaL cHaP on Sunday 4 July 2010, 10:58:33 PM
God, some of you are so full of s***.

If you mean the wrestler fan boys who like to see oiled up men covered in tattoos baiting each other before fighting like a bunch of over weight bouncers then i agree.

If you mean me then you must one of them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 4 July 2010, 11:53:45 PM
Aye, was unbelievable that.

Spoiler
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:aww:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: CaPiTaL cHaP on Monday 5 July 2010, 12:24:41 AM
Apologies for being tetchy earlier, was having a murderous day with the kids.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 5 July 2010, 04:26:24 AM
As long as no one can beat Lesnar, he is the best. Technique counts for s*** if you can't utilize it. Simple really. Don't think the match should have been stopped in the first round. God I love Brock!


Oh, and Chris Leben  :o


UFC 116 was great!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 5 July 2010, 10:35:51 AM
Brock is like some cartoon character that can be shot, boiled, set on fire, dropped off a cliff, hit by a train, then by two buses, 5 cars, trampled by 20 wild horses, endure several paper cuts and still get up and smile.

 :crazy2:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 10 July 2010, 11:43:34 PM
Finally got round to seeing 116 only a week late! :lol:

What a card!! I thought Lesnar was done for in that first round but credit to him that he came back and got the sub. If he can stay conscious after a pumelling off Carwin then he need not fear anybodies standup game.

Loved Lesnar celebrating in the crowd with Goldberg, Austin and The Rock. What a big f*** you to all the snobby MMA fans. Hahahaha. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 12 July 2010, 02:17:59 PM
Quote
Just watched it. What a f**king embarrassment that that was for a a title fight. How a dude can tire himself out in 1 round, spending half of it smacking the other guys arms was a school fight
Not many athletes in the world can throw that many punches and not seize up, have you ever watched super heavyweight boxing?

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I'll give Lesnar credit for at doing some stamina training but watching the way he backed off while under attack was ridiculous.
Lesnar is still learning, you've got to remember he's only had 6 MMA fights and a few years of real training. He was obviously worried about Carwins power and for good reason too, i've never seen him back off from strikes like that before.

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her of these guys have much brains when it comes to fighting.
Lol, what? I take it you didn't see Brocks beautiful transition from half guard to mount, then from mount to the arm-triangle choke. Brocks gameplan was perfect and smart, get the takedown, only problem was Carwin didn't let him have it on a plate in the first round.

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Carwin had ample opportunity to finish that fight with a lock when Lesnar was all over the place
Carwin was never ever in a position where he could have had a submission.  If he paced himself and worked into dominant ground position then he may have had a chance but instead he stood over him throwing punches. It's also very hard and very draining for a man of Carwins size to lock onto a submission.

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Rather watch fighters like GSP any day of the week, got genuine skill and strategy. This was just watching 2 bullys breath really hard on each other.
Aye because it's so uncommon for the lighter weights to have more skill and technique. The fight was exciting, regardless of strategy.

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I reckon about half the people on this board, if they miraculously turned 6 ft 4 and 23st could look at those 2 and think 'i could do that.'
Well, they couldn't.

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How many could watch a real mixed martial artist with a great grappling game and think that kind of ability is remotely attainable.
The kind of people who think Lesnar and Carwin are garbage fighters with no skill?



God, some of you are so full of s***.

If you mean the wrestler fan boys who like to see oiled up men covered in tattoos baiting each other before fighting like a bunch of over weight bouncers then i agree.

If you mean me then you must one of them.
I didn't even mean you, I was aiming at the posters screaming corruption of the referees decision to not end the fight in the first round.

I've also been a fan of MMA for many, many years now. I've also been training martial arts since I could walk and I find your last comment ignorant really. I am by no means some fanboy of mens muscles who likes watching two idiots brawl in the street.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 12 July 2010, 03:27:41 PM
AOKI i want to f*** his BJJ !!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 12 July 2010, 07:49:58 PM
(http://www.mma-manifesto.com/images/stories/shiny%20aoki%20middle%20finger.jpg)

Shinya Aoki def. Slim via submission (achilles lock) - Round 1, 0:07
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 12 July 2010, 09:58:18 PM
I have a pair of them pants in black. 

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3691/57219406.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 21 July 2010, 01:01:41 AM
UFC 120 is going to be at the 02 in London on 16th October. Bisping, Hardy and Hathaway all on the card. Tickets on sale Friday.

Seriously fancy going to this like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Wednesday 21 July 2010, 01:10:21 AM
Canny pricey like! Would love to go though but the cost of the ticket plus travel/accommodation just wouldn't be worth it for me  :undecided:

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Tickets for UFC 120 are priced at £50, £75, £100, £125, £175 and £250 and will go on sale via ticketmaster.co.uk

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 21 July 2010, 01:14:42 AM
Aye it'll definately be a £50 nose bleed ticket for me like! :lol: or I might just wait till the next one in Manchester but that could be years away and I can't see them coming to Newcastle again anytime soon.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Wednesday 21 July 2010, 01:33:32 AM
I went to 105 so I think I will have to give this one a miss. Although, if they add Wanderlei Silva vs Chris Leben to this card then I might reconsider. It's just a shame that the original plan of Vitor Belfort vs Michael Bisping didn't happen as that would have been a good number one contenders fight for the Middleweight championship and would have been a better main event.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 21 July 2010, 11:42:31 PM
Aye it'll definately be a £50 nose bleed ticket for me like! :lol: or I might just wait till the next one in Manchester but that could be years away and I can't see them coming to Newcastle again anytime soon.

The UFC is hoping to come to Britain on 'four to six' occasions next year as it begins to put in place major plans to introduce Fight Nights to the European scene.

UFC UK president Marshall Zelaznik is the man charged with delivering top MMA action to multiple countries around Europe, and he spoke exclusively to ESPN.co.uk after officially announcing UFC 120, which will take place in London on October 16.

"My hope is that it will provide four to six guaranteed UFC events in the UK next year. We're hoping to hold one more European event [in addition to UFC 120] before the end of the year, and then we'll get these extra nights planned for next year.

"We'd like to come to Liverpool, Scotland, Newcastle, Birmingham, these places provide 10,000-seaters which will be great for Fight Nights."


you sure ;)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Thursday 22 July 2010, 11:22:53 AM
Aye... because everything Marshall Zelaznik says is set in stone gold.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 22 July 2010, 03:18:15 PM
Takanori Gomi vs Ross Pearson at Metro Radio Arena please.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 31 July 2010, 06:48:44 PM
Throughout August UFC fighters will be touring the UK to take part in exclusive signing sessions at GAME and Gamestation. Get your copy of UFC Undisputed 2010 signed by the likes of Ross Pearson, Dan Hardy, Michael Bisping, Paul Taylor and many more.

4 August - Newcastle
Gamestation, Metrocentre, Gateshead, NE11 9YZ

5 August - Glasgow
Gamestation, 83 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow, G2 3DD

6 August - London
GAME London, 100 Oxford Street, London, W1D 9LL

11 August - Sunderland
Gamestation, 27 Blandford Street, Sunderland, SR1 3JH

12 August - Sheffield
Gamestation, Meadowhall Shopping Centre, Sheffield, S9 1ER

13 August - Birmingham
Gamestation, 138 New Street, Birmingham, B2 4NS

19 August - Nottingham
GAME, Listergate, Nottingham, NG1 7DE

20 August - Liverpool
Gamestation, 72 Lord Street, Liverpool, L2 1TL
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 1 August 2010, 05:55:33 PM
Anybody planning to watch the ufc on vs show tonight? I can't see Jones needing more than a round to win. Some of the other fights look promising though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 1 August 2010, 07:48:27 PM
Anybody planning to watch the ufc on vs show tonight? I can't see Jones needing more than a round to win. Some of the other fights look promising though.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to Gomi as he's always been exciting but Tyson Griffin is a really bad match up for him.

Matyushenko could very well derail the Jon Jones hype train, although it's unlikely. Also the Okami/Munoz fight is a good matchup to determine who gets a middleweight title shot after Belfort. Pretty decent card for a Versus event.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 1 August 2010, 10:36:16 PM
The last versus card ended up being really bad so I'm hopeful about this one.

I'm really looking forward to the next ppv though. Particularly JDS vs Nelson.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 2 August 2010, 02:51:41 AM
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 2 August 2010, 03:31:00 PM
Absolutely delighted for Gomi. He's one of the most exciting lightweights in the world and I am glad he picked up the victory.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 2 August 2010, 05:08:27 PM
Absolutely delighted for Gomi. He's one of the most exciting lightweights in the world and I am glad he picked up the victory.

It was a great win.

They need to give Jones a real challenger now. I know they're trying to build him up slowly but he's a legitimate title contender IMO.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 2 August 2010, 05:45:33 PM
Potential opponents for Jones:

Forrest Griffin: Former champion and a big name. Jones gas tank will be put to the test.

Winner of lil Nog and Ryan Bader: Good eliminator fight for Jones although I'm not entirely won over by Ryan Bader yet and lil nog looked poor (and should have lost) against Jason Brilz.

Rich Franklin: A top fighter but Jones' reach advantage will make this fight look like Silva/Franklin 2

Lyoto Machida: Bad match up for Jones and I don't think they'll ruin his hype by feeding him to Machida.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 2 August 2010, 09:37:41 PM
Jones would seriously f*** up Griffin..

Nog would be a good fight, I totally agree about Bader he's not impressed me at all.

Rich Franklin would give anyone a fight, think this would be a cracking fight.

Machida who knows???
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 3 August 2010, 02:57:15 PM
I think the most realistic fight for Jones out of that list would be the winner of Nog vs Bader.

Obviously the winner of Machida v Rampage would be an interesting fight, but that wouldn't fit with their current policy of bringing him up slowly. It would have to be a title eliminator and I think that would come too soon for Jones.

I doubt that Forest would take a fight with Jones at this point in his career. Jones would likely demolish him and his career would be all but over.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 3 August 2010, 02:59:49 PM
Doesn't really matter who Jones faces, he'll beat them. The longer they wait the more he's going to kill them when he finally faces them.

You can't beat Dhalsim and his 85 inch reach.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Wednesday 4 August 2010, 12:13:31 PM
Rich Franklin seems the best candidate to me. They have to stop feeding him people that your casual fan has never heard of, it'll start to do more harm than good soon enough.

Franklin is someone that pretty much anyone who watches the sport is familiar with, he's a respected former champion who has beaten two icons of the sport in the last year (Wanderlei and Liddell). But he's someone that Jones would still beat pretty comfortably I reckon.

My guess is they'll give him Thiago Silva, and Jones will kill him.

Would like to see him fight Bader though, if I could choose. That'd be bad for business though, so don't imagine Dana will go for it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Wednesday 4 August 2010, 07:21:56 PM
Predictions for this weekend?

Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen
My Pick: Silva by KO in 1st round

Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
My Pick: Fitch by Decision

Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
My pick: dos Anjos by Submission in 2nd round

Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
My Pick: Almeida by Submission in 1st round

Roy Nelson vs. Junior dos Santos
My Pick: dos Santos by TKO in 2nd round
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Wednesday 4 August 2010, 07:39:51 PM
I don't think these will happen but this is what I would like to see:

Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen
My Pick: Sonnen by Decision (Based on his performance at 112, it's likely Silva will come out and KO Sonnen in the first)

Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
My Pick: Alves TKO Fitch (Fitch is only exciting if he's getting wrecked by GSP, the other times he is just boring)

Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
My pick: Clay Guida by Decision (Guida is relentless and his fights are always exciting)

Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
My Pick: Almeida by Decision (Almeida has excellent BJJ but I think Hughes experience will negate that)

Roy Nelson vs. Junior dos Santos
My Pick: Roy Nelson by TKO in 2nd round (Crucifix position) (Roy Nelson is hilarious, therefore he should win)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Wednesday 4 August 2010, 07:52:05 PM
Ex-UFC lightweight contender Roger Huerta in a street fight:

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=06122435-fea9-4358-91eb-330a87db4f24

Some guy hits a girl from behind and Huerta chases him and wrecks him. The footage is a bit rubbish but it looks like Huerta picks up the KO victory ;)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 4 August 2010, 08:16:55 PM
Yeah, fair play to him.

Professional fighters should be encouraged to kick the s*** out of scumbags like that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Wednesday 4 August 2010, 09:03:12 PM

Roy Nelson vs. Junior dos Santos
My Pick: Roy Nelson by TKO in 2nd round (Crucifix position) (Roy Nelson is hilarious, therefore he should win)

I desperately want Nelson to win (we share a similar physique after all) but I don't see it happening.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Thursday 5 August 2010, 04:03:03 PM
I don't think these will happen but this is what I would like to see:

Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen
My Pick: Sonnen by Decision (Based on his performance at 112, it's likely Silva will come out and KO Sonnen in the first)

Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
My Pick: Alves TKO Fitch (Fitch is only exciting if he's getting wrecked by GSP, the other times he is just boring)

Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
My pick: Clay Guida by Decision (Guida is relentless and his fights are always exciting)

Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
My Pick: Almeida by Decision (Almeida has excellent BJJ but I think Hughes experience will negate that)

Roy Nelson vs. Junior dos Santos
My Pick: Roy Nelson by TKO in 2nd round (Crucifix position) (Roy Nelson is hilarious, therefore he should win)
I go against all of your picks, so it's on. Let the best man win :-)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 5 August 2010, 04:53:19 PM
I'd like Silva, Alves, Dos Anjos, Hughes and Dos Santos to pick up the wins.,

I think Silva, Fitch, Guida, Hughes and Dos Santos will win.

Fitch is the most boring fighter I've ever seen. Hope he gets KTFO in a few seconds of the first round.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 5 August 2010, 05:06:25 PM
A few updates concerning 117:

Sonnen is already making excuses by saying he has a stomach bug and he hasn't studied any Anderson Silva tapes until yesterday. That being said..Sonnen could be playing mind games as the guy is the biggest troll in MMA.


Thiago Alves didn't attend the public workout session because he is having some serious weight cutting issues.
I can see Fitch grinding out a decision now due to Alves' weight issues. Fitch has spoken that if Alves is noticeably above 170 (like against Hughes) then he might not take the catchweight fight.

JDS' English has improved a lot which makes him a lot more marketable now. Nelson has stated that he will stand with JDS but I reckon once he feels Dos Santos' power he will look to shoot immediately.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 5 August 2010, 10:55:11 PM
I don't think these will happen but this is what I would like to see:

Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen
My Pick: Sonnen by Decision (Based on his performance at 112, it's likely Silva will come out and KO Sonnen in the first)

Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
My Pick: Alves TKO Fitch (Fitch is only exciting if he's getting wrecked by GSP, the other times he is just boring)

Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
My pick: Clay Guida by Decision (Guida is relentless and his fights are always exciting)

Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
My Pick: Almeida by Decision (Almeida has excellent BJJ but I think Hughes experience will negate that)

Roy Nelson vs. Junior dos Santos
My Pick: Roy Nelson by TKO in 2nd round (Crucifix position) (Roy Nelson is hilarious, therefore he should win)
I go against all of your picks, so it's on. Let the best man win :-)

Sorry but i agree your picks are wrong.  Dont be fooled by the hype machine .  Sliva will tap im quicked than dan henderson
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 5 August 2010, 11:35:54 PM
I'll stick to my picks but once again they're mostly based on people I want to win, not who I think will win  :blush:

I usually root for:

Underdogs (Russow KOing Duffee is my favourite moment this year)
Hype machine killers (See above)
PRIDE alumni
anti-blankets (I understand that wrestling is an essential and very effective aspect of MMA, but sometimes people just lay and pray which is infuriating imo)
Fedor  :coolsmiley:


Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 7 August 2010, 03:29:32 PM
Looking forward to tonights card, there's a few of them I haven't seen fight yet so should be good :)

Is anyone stopping up for it?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 7 August 2010, 06:44:02 PM
Looking forward to tonights card, there's a few of them I haven't seen fight yet so should be good :)

Is anyone stopping up for it?

Don't be daft mate; I would never stop up till crazy oclock to see the end of a UFC event. Just tape it and watch it tomorrow.

I pray that Sonnen can pull this off like because I f***ing despise that c*** Silva.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 7 August 2010, 06:48:09 PM
I haven't been sleeping well so I might be up for it anyway :) Couldn't manage it for the last one like, felt like my eyes were bleeding by 1am :lol:

I quite like Silva, only seen a couple of his fights but he seems far too good for everyone else tbh.. comes across as a smug c*** though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 7 August 2010, 07:02:51 PM
Exactly, he lost a lot of fans after the last fight. What a c***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 7 August 2010, 07:51:26 PM
Thiago Alves fails to make weight again; I can see Fitch winning this fight due to Alves being totally fatigued from the weight cut.

Sonnen's trash talking has been hilarious but after the 112 display, I think Silva has to win in a convincing manner, therefore he will most likely finish Sonnen early on.

(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss274/AndrewSky94/silvasaweirdo.png?t=1281041349)

Alves :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 8 August 2010, 12:06:11 AM
Was just watching the weigh in. Sonnen should have been a Pro Wrestler with those mic skills.  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 August 2010, 12:48:32 AM
I decided to stay up and watch it with a bottle of that fizzy french expensive stuff....By myself how depressing!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 8 August 2010, 01:46:02 AM
You do realise that the main event is gonna be pushing 6am right?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 August 2010, 01:49:05 AM
You do realise that the main event is gonna be pushing 6am right?

yeah i have a few bottles :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 8 August 2010, 01:51:46 AM
I am wide awake now but f*** it I'm just gonna tape it and try and get some sleep then get up about 8am to watch it. Just been watching the countdown show. Sonnen is hilarious; honestly I could listen to this guy talk all day! :lol: just hope he can back it up tonight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 03:11:08 AM
What a way to start the card!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 03:21:37 AM
Do we use spoiler tags until tomorrow or do we just post as we please :D?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 03:34:50 AM
Yeah I guess it's like the LOST thread, it would be wise to stay out until you've seen the latest episode.

Anyway back to topic:

Nelson is insane, a lesser man would have been TKO/KOed in the first. How many people would stand and trade with JDS! I think Nelson will have gained a lot of new fans tonight  :clap:

JDS vs winner of Cain and Brock!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 03:53:41 AM
Thank God that one is over already, that fight had 15 minute decision written all over it. Good finish though!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 03:57:57 AM
Great card so far. The Guida/Dos Anjos fight should be a war.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 04:22:44 AM
Guida is relentless! good win for him. I hope Fitch doesn't ruin this card.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Sunday 8 August 2010, 04:57:23 AM
Jesus Rogan we get it, he was half a pound over and took the purse hit.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 05:08:58 AM
(http://i35.tinypic.com/dhei4l.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 05:51:57 AM
Sonnen.. :no:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 8 August 2010, 12:36:03 PM
That was a fight  :lol:

You can't rest one moment against Silva, not even a second.

Silva was very lucky, he was dominated for 4 and a half rounds.  Silva showed a great chin tonight, he took a lot of punishment.  It was weird that Silva's short elbows from the bottom did more damage from a blood loss point of view.  Didn't like Sonnen's silly tap and then pretend you didn't bullshit.  He did tap, and he didn't bring it up afterwards so I guess he knows he tapped really.  Sonnen did two things right though, one was showing Silva no respect from the first bell and putting him under pressure.  Too many opponents are tentative for the first 60 seconds and Silva just works out their speed and timing in that time, he didn't get the chance to do that in any round really.  The second was the relentless wrestling and take downs.  Great stuff.  The 5 rounds on Championship fights saved Silva tonight, and fair play to him for sorting it out in the end.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 August 2010, 01:36:22 PM
http://br.ufc.com/media/Real_Quick_w_Swick_Colorado_Rapids
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 8 August 2010, 02:18:10 PM
f***ing devastated for Sonnen. He just had to lie on him for 2 more minutes and he'd be the new champion. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. Not happy like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 8 August 2010, 02:36:12 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2metxs3.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 8 August 2010, 02:58:48 PM
Sonnen should have did what Silva did at 112 and run for the remaining 2 minutes! Credit to Silva for the comeback though. Silva's chin seemed suspect against Sonnen who isn't know for great striking, therefore it would be interesting to see what Vitor Belfort can do.

Even though Silva won, I think he lost his aura of invincibility last night, similarly to Machida/Shogun 1.



(http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/chael-sonnen-9.jpg)

:clap:


Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 8 August 2010, 03:16:07 PM
As Rogan said though, Silva hasn't met many of Sonnens wrestling caliber, and if it is true that Silva had some broken rib bones then you can imagine why he was so easily taken down.
Fair play to both though, great fight to watch.

Dan Henderson was the last I know of, and he made it tough for Silva, but in the end Silva got him.  I didn't hear broken ribs, just heard injured ribs. Probably bruised ribs, surely he couldn't fight with broken ribs? he would be in danger of damaging internal organs with good shot to the mid section.

As you say though, great fight. :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 8 August 2010, 06:20:17 PM
f***ing devastated for Sonnen. He just had to lie on him for 2 more minutes and he'd be the new champion. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. Not happy like.

Same, was sweating like f*** during the last two rounds praying he'd go on to win it :lol: fair play to Silva though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 9 August 2010, 02:03:35 PM
Honestly I'm still p*ssed off about the result. Ordinarily I'd be over the moon if a guy who was getting pummelled for 4 and a half rounds somehow pulled off a submission victory but in this instance I'm gutted. f*** you Anderson Silva.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 9 August 2010, 02:09:48 PM
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Amazing. Gotta LOVE that ending.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 9 August 2010, 02:18:28 PM
No you don't gotta love that ending ffs! What you do gotta love is Steven Seagal showing up in Silvas corner! :lol:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 9 August 2010, 04:53:14 PM
A lot of talk that Chael needs to work on his submission defense (which might be true) but my lord, the man needs to learn how to finish a fight. That was the difference, imo. The fact that he went that long without getting submitted by Silva shows that his sub defense isn't terrible. It was never likely that he would be able to go 25 minutes with a fighter of Silva's quality without getting caught, and that's just what happened.

He proved that he's a tremendous athlete with one hell of a gas tank, but until he can go that one step further and put someone away, he'll always wind up second best.

BTW, I think the UFC should check to see if Silva is even a human being at this point. He took a lot of punishment and didn't lose a drop of blood. He barely even looked like he was in a fight afterward.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 9 August 2010, 04:53:34 PM
Sonnen during the post fight conference:

"Listen, fighting Anderson Silva is a lot like eating Chinese food, once you've done it, twenty minutes later you're going to want to do it again.  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 9 August 2010, 05:16:37 PM
You don't get many high calibre wrestlers who are known to regularly finish fights, they're more likely to grind out a decision based on their superior grappling. Sonnen is known for his relentless pressure and takedowns (as evident from his wins against Okami and Marquardt) but he isn't very good at anything else. I mean, you get a guy like Lesnar with wrestling credentials but he also has considerable power in his hands which makes for an effective ground and pound. The way I saw it was Sonnen was just making sure the referee wouldn't stand them up by constantly hitting Silva, albeit not very hard, on route to a decision victory.

It's a shame that you're not allowed knees to the head of a downed opponent in America. I guess in America it's more wrestling-friendly.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 28 August 2010, 09:19:28 PM
Ufc 118 tonight..   O0

Predictions???

Edgar vs Penn. Penn 2nd rd ko!!   :pow:

Couture vs Toney: Couture by decapitation!!  :angry:

Ken Flo vs Maynard: Ken flo decision..  :smitten:

Diaz vs Davis: ???? god knows fight of the night!!  :knuppel2:

Mia vs Miranda: Mia 2nd rd Submission.  :undecided:

Really like the look of this card.

Thoughts??
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 28 August 2010, 09:51:27 PM
May aswell give this a go.

Penn
Couture
Ken Flo
Erm.... Who? :lol: Okay Diaz has the better name so him.
Erm.. Yeah Mia.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Saturday 28 August 2010, 11:09:52 PM
Really interested to see that Toney fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 29 August 2010, 03:56:31 AM
Really interested to see that Toney fight.

Yeah, man. I absolutely cannot stand MMA, but this is a must-see.

As a boxer, i'd obviously like to see the boxer win. But Toney's scum, and I hope he gets anihilated.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Sunday 29 August 2010, 04:12:31 AM
Not into UFC either, but I'd love to see this. Hopefully my friends will have it on tonight. Toney's is going to be destrpyed tonight. He's not even a competitiver boxer. He is not an athlete. He looks he should be sweeping a barbershop.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 29 August 2010, 01:19:08 PM
:lol: Before Roy Jones beat the absolute hell out of him, Toney was a fine boxer. That James Toney hasn't been around in a long time though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 29 August 2010, 01:23:50 PM
Right, this was not as good as I was hoping for overall, probably because there was no knockouts at all.  First fight and last fight was the best.  Great work by Neat Diaz, he's getting better!  Thought that Kenny was very poor, started with energy but didn't make it count.  As soon as Maynard got him to the ground Kenny looked awful. Maia looked really good but couldn't finish. 

The Couture vs. Toney fight was a bit of a joke.  Don't think Toney even landed a punch while standing.  Couture was never going to give Toney a stand up fight as it would suit Toney, when on the ground he was shown up as a joker.

Frankie Edgar looked really good. Very fast, just too much for BJ Penn who seemed to give up after round 2.  The commentators were right about his corner giving him terrible advice, or no advice as it seemed.  Just trying to talk him up in to fighting instead of offering guidance.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 29 August 2010, 01:24:32 PM
Really wish someone would PM me when the UFC live events are on, missed this one as well  :rant:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Sunday 29 August 2010, 01:26:05 PM
He's definitely a character who once had a fair bit of talent. I actually respect him, but he had no chance. It would be like making Sol Campbell play linebacker. I remember when an old, fat Toney nearly beat Samuel Peter with his "speed". It was at this point that we realised the Nigerian Nightmare might not dominate the heavyweight division in the way we expected.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mike on Sunday 29 August 2010, 01:28:20 PM
:lol: At least he didn't have to change his nickname after that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 29 August 2010, 06:24:11 PM
Aye, the card was a bit of a letdown.

Diaz looked really sharp, I've always liked him & it finally seems he's found his weight class.
 
Gutted with ken flo. Maynard looked really good & I think he will give edgar a great fight.
 
Edgar demolished penn, it will be intresting to see how the rematch goes against maynard.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Monday 30 August 2010, 12:34:15 PM
That was all a bit meh, still enjoyed it but it lacked the excitement of the last few cards imo..

Learned a lot about ground game from watching it though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 30 August 2010, 01:17:25 PM
That was all a bit meh, still enjoyed it but it lacked the excitement of the last few cards imo..

Learned a lot about ground game from watching it though.

If you think that card lacked excitement, I'd skip 119 & 120 tbh. Well, apart from 120 is full of brits, but the fact that Bisping is the main event makes it hella underwhelming.

Anyway, enjoyed 118, Lauzon was pretty impressive in the prelims and Edgar walked all over BJ. Was pretty sad to see BJ at the end.

James Toney is a big fat joke of a man.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Monday 30 August 2010, 02:12:00 PM
I should have said the fights lacked excitement, the card looked good in theory (from the fighters I knew) and I was hyped to f*** for the Couture fight :lol:

Looking forward to 119 though, haven't seen Cro Cop fight before, and I've liked what I've seen from Lil Nog and Sherk so far so it looks Okay to me. Watching TUF 3 at the moment so actually quite looking forward to seeing Bisping fight,  he's a funny f***er :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 30 August 2010, 02:25:11 PM
They always give Cro Cop massive respect (I assume due to his career achievements - ones that I never saw), but he's gonna get brutally bummed by Mir.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 30 August 2010, 05:00:44 PM
They always give Cro Cop massive respect (I assume due to his career achievements - ones that I never saw), but he's gonna get brutally bummed by Mir.

Yeah, it's not nearly as interesting a fight now that Cro Cop is in for Nog. Mir will be motivated and is going to end that fight within the first two minutes, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 30 August 2010, 09:02:43 PM
Two amusing things from 118:

- Did anyone else spot when BJ entered the ring and his corner was trying to unfurl his banner thing and it got wedged in the side of his head? BJ was like 'wtf is that in the side of my head?' then with sheer horror in his eyes he slowly turned his head to the left and then 's*** man its only my banner thing!' :lol:

- One of Penn's coaches referred to Edgar as "That little cocksucker", then shook his hand afterwards! :lol: I wonder if Edgar would have shook his hand if he had known lol.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 30 August 2010, 09:49:42 PM
Didn't see point a, but I'm sure point b isn't a big deal like. Standard motivational patter. I mean, it was completely useless for BJ, who needed something a little more technical than they were offering.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 31 August 2010, 12:08:54 AM
Didn't see point a, but I'm sure point b isn't a big deal like. Standard motivational patter. I mean, it was completely useless for BJ, who needed something a little more technical than they were offering.

But point a) was so funny; his banner was wedged in the side of his head for a good 5 seconds before he reacted. Was pissing myself :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Wednesday 15 September 2010, 04:04:42 PM
Bump.

Some good fights tonight on free TV. Marquardt vs Palhares should be an interesting match-up. It's a big step up for Palhares, though, so I expect Marquardt to grind it out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 15 September 2010, 08:23:01 PM
Aye and the Mackem Ross Pearsons fighting. Anyone know anything about his opponent?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 15 September 2010, 08:35:11 PM
Cole miller Submitted dan lauzon in this last fight at ufc 108, but that was a long time ago. Injured since then? Dunno.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 15 September 2010, 09:00:52 PM
TUF 12 starts tonight too!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 15 September 2010, 09:03:34 PM
TUF 12 starts tonight too!

What channel?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 15 September 2010, 09:06:05 PM
TUF 12 starts tonight too!

What channel?

ESPN I think.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 15 September 2010, 09:10:16 PM
In America I was referring to. No clue about here.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 16 September 2010, 01:04:17 AM
Hope Pearson wins but Cole Miller is a great BJJ fighter and I think he will have a considerable height advantage on Pearson too. It will be a good fight to test Pearsons grappling skills.

Efrain Escudero proved that Miller has a fairly weak chin and I think Ross can win this if he keeps it standing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 18 September 2010, 12:57:29 AM
No one seen this yet then?

Shame Pearson lost; I thought he was winning the fight with some beautiful leg kicks and he just got clocked and it was game over.

That Brazilian kid I forget his name was f***ing class like. To get knee'd full force in the bollocks and have the ref rush you back when you've got 5 minutes to recover then go on to choke Escudero was top drawer. He's got a bright future for sure.

Yet again we see more controversy in a main event!! Palhares goes for the heel hook but Nate slips out and Palhares is like WTF? And to all intents and purposes he stops fighting and points at the ref saying 'hes greased up' then Nate the Great just dives on him and pounds him out. What a strange ending because I thought Palhares was going to win that one for sure up until that strange incident.

All in all it was a good card. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 18 September 2010, 01:09:03 AM
I enjoyed it, as well as TUF12 debut. Pretty much the same feelings as yourself, pretty sad that Pearson lost, but Cole Miller looks like a pretty handy fighter, no shame in that.

Pretty rubbish ending fight though, you run that fight again and Palhares will mush him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 18 September 2010, 01:19:25 AM
I thought Pearson did well to defend the earlier submission attempts, shame he got caught with that punch though.

Quite looking forward to this season's TUF as lightweights tend to put on better fights, unlike the heavyweights who gas after 1 minute.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Saturday 18 September 2010, 08:19:30 AM
 That palhares one sounds like something out of WWE, I imagine him turning to the ref screaming and waving his arms about, then nate sneaks up behind him, smashes him with a chair and wins the fight :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 18 September 2010, 02:06:47 PM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/DaAzNgUy808/116u91fjpg.gif)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 20 September 2010, 02:27:18 PM
Sonnen tested positive for performance enhancing drugs after his fight with Silva. What a dumb-ass. There goes his rematch in January.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/CSAC-Sonnen-Positive-for-PEDs-at-UFC-117-26978 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/CSAC-Sonnen-Positive-for-PEDs-at-UFC-117-26978)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Monday 20 September 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Shame, was looking forward to the rematch..  :undecided:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 September 2010, 02:35:33 PM
HA, stupid forest dwelling country f***er, didn't deserve a rematch against the Spider.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 20 September 2010, 02:36:02 PM
Has Pearson dropped a weight? He looked tiny.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 20 September 2010, 03:00:51 PM
HA, stupid forest dwelling country f***er, didn't deserve a rematch against the Spider.

I agree. He lost that fight. I don't care how good he looked, he shouldn't get a rematch. Looks like he took care of that himself, though.

If he ends up getting a suspension, it will be interesting to see who they give the title shot to. Marquardt has to be in the running, but it will probably go to the winner of Belfort v Okami, and will likely be pushed into February or March.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 20 September 2010, 04:54:13 PM
Has Pearson dropped a weight? He looked tiny.

No, hes always been a lightweight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 20 September 2010, 04:58:37 PM
HA, stupid forest dwelling country f***er, didn't deserve a rematch against the Spider.

Course he did, he dominated him for 4 and a half rounds. Id like to know how much these PED's actually enhance you tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 September 2010, 05:08:06 PM
HA, stupid forest dwelling country f***er, didn't deserve a rematch against the Spider.

Course he did, he dominated him for 4 and a half rounds. Id like to know how much these PED's actually enhance you tbh.

It's irrelevant how much they enhanced you tbh, if the guy is stupid enough to try it, then he should be suspended for a long time.

And yeah, Sonnen dominated him, but he can't finish fights, so he's useless.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Monday 20 September 2010, 06:25:36 PM
Quote
A few notable points that have emerged since yesterday's bombshell that Chael Sonnen tested positive for performance enhancing drugs following UFC 117...

- According to the L.A. Times' Lance Pugmire, Sonnen tested positive for a "natural steroid" before his fight with Anderson Silva. Natural steroids, such as androstenedione and dehydroepiandrosterone, aren't chemically altered like synthetic steroids, and can be sold over-the-counter as supplements at health food stores.

- Sonnen is facing a year-long suspension and a $2,500 fine, which he has 30 days to appeal. According to California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer George Dodd, Sonnen’s positive test emerged from a urine sample he gave before the fight that was processed through the UCLA Olympic drug-testing lab.

- When asked to comment on the situation by Yahoo!'s Kevin Iole, UFC president Dana White would only say that he's leaving Sonnen's punishment in the hands of the CSAC: “When [a UFC fighter] fails a test, the government is going to fine them and suspend them and tell them they can’t make a living for a year. So should I come in after they’ve already lost the ability to make a living for a year and been fined all this money and, in the worst economic disaster in the history of the world, fine them another huge amount and take away their ability to make a living even longer? These are guys with homes and families and personal lives and bills and debts and obligations, just like me and you. After they lost all this money already, money that, A, they’ve probably already spent and B, which they owe taxes, do I fine them another huge amount? What else do you do to a human being?”

- If you feel like giving Chael the benefit of the doubt, keep in mind that there's a long list of over-the-counter cold and flu products that have triggered false positives in drug tests. Remember how Sonnen said he had a stomach bug in the week leading up to the fight?

So far, there's been no official statement from Sonnen on the PED situation. We'll let you know as soon as he makes one...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 September 2010, 06:29:26 PM
I really wouldn't be surprised if it's from a bottle of calpol or some such, but this situation has been seen countless times before in many sports. MMA is big bucks now and they need to pay the same attention to what they're putting in their body. I've sympathy, but not too much.

Unless he did it deliberately, which would make him a total retard.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 20 September 2010, 06:33:39 PM
Has Pearson dropped a weight? He looked tiny.

No, hes always been a lightweight.

Not that light, at least a stone off since TUF.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 20 September 2010, 09:30:24 PM
Has Pearson dropped a weight? He looked tiny.

No, hes always been a lightweight.

Not that light, at least a stone off since TUF.

If he had lost a stone since the Ultimate Fighter then that would mean that he was competing at welterweight on the show; which he wasnt. If he had lost a stone since the show that would mean that he is now 140lbs, which he isnt. He weighed in at 156 pounds against Miller.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 20 September 2010, 09:41:24 PM
He for sure was fighting at 155 on TUF.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 September 2010, 09:44:47 PM
The Ultimate Fighter S12 starts on Sky Sports tomorrow :thup:

If you've not already downloaded it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 20 September 2010, 09:51:17 PM
Has Pearson dropped a weight? He looked tiny.

No, hes always been a lightweight.

Not that light, at least a stone off since TUF.

If he had lost a stone since the Ultimate Fighter then that would mean that he was competing at welterweight on the show; which he wasnt. If he had lost a stone since the show that would mean that he is now 140lbs, which he isnt. He weighed in at 156 pounds against Miller.

Must be some HD camera trick, I've seen him fight since TUF, but he looked different for some reason the other night. I know he puts on quite a bit (22lbs i was just reading) when not training, when he joined TUF camp he might have not been in the best of shape but you'd imagine he'd make sure he was with such a opportunity to make it. Must be just me.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 September 2010, 09:53:11 PM
Maybe he didn't put as much on after the weigh-ins this time round? There's no stats for anyone to prove you wrong on that one, so go with it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 20 September 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Maybe he didn't put as much on after the weigh-ins this time round? There's no stats for anyone to prove you wrong on that one, so go with it.

 :lol:

He looked like he'd been shrink rapped, maybe lost body weight and gained muscle. I'm going with that!  :razz:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ED209 on Monday 20 September 2010, 10:36:15 PM
I find all this macho cage fighting rubbish
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 September 2010, 10:52:37 PM
good for you
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Monday 20 September 2010, 10:55:17 PM
Watching Pride knockouts, Bas Rutten should commentate in UFC tbh he's class :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 20 September 2010, 11:10:29 PM
TT, I think what SEMTEX was saying about him not putting on weight since the weigh in could be true. Maybe in the past he piled on the pounds but this time he maybe didnt. I'm willing to accept that.

Another thing that I think might explain it maybe something to do with where they are fighting. On TUF the fighters look bigger cause they are fighting in what is basically a small gym whereas the other night Pearson was figting in a massive arena so he looked smaller. I know the octagon is the same size but everything else is on a different scale so maybe that explains it?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 20 September 2010, 11:14:50 PM
I find all this macho cage fighting bollocks highly homo erotic. The Local meat  heads love it. I think its a pile of excrement.

Pfft.......(In a posh voice) It's called 'Mixed Martial Arts' don't you know?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 21 September 2010, 01:01:21 AM
TT, I think what SEMTEX was saying about him not putting on weight since the weigh in could be true. Maybe in the past he piled on the pounds but this time he maybe didnt. I'm willing to accept that.

Another thing that I think might explain it maybe something to do with where they are fighting. On TUF the fighters look bigger cause they are fighting in what is basically a small gym whereas the other night Pearson was figting in a massive arena so he looked smaller. I know the octagon is the same size but everything else is on a different scale so maybe that explains it?

I was obviously going OTT with the stone comment, but there was something different about him, even wor lass went fuking hell, has he lost weight? So both of us for some reason thought it, it could be an illusion, weight gained after or not in this case, but he looked smaller and more defined than on TUF where he for me had a rounder figure.

The step up in class maybe just him piling on muscle and trimming down even further, its a shame his game plan didn't live up to the effort in training if that's the case. I quite like the mackem being a name over there in a sport which doesn't exist to 90% of the UK.

Though much prefer Hatherway (H-something) young lad about 22, lanky, killer knees.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 21 September 2010, 09:45:34 AM
Big fight this weekend..


Alex Reid vs Tom Watson.  :fishing:

In all seriousness is Alex Reid any good?? I know Kong Watson is as I've seen him fight before.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 21 September 2010, 09:53:22 AM
He hasn't fought since 2007, and before that, he lost 6 fights in a row. I think I'd know where to put my money.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 24 September 2010, 02:19:22 PM
UFC 119 tomorrow night.

Might put a few beans on Mir to win, it's only 1.40, but he's gonna win, so it seems GUARANTEED.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Friday 24 September 2010, 03:05:36 PM
UFC 119 tomorrow night.

Might put a few beans on Mir to win, it's only 1.40, but he's gonna win, so it seems GUARANTEED.



 :nope: although I do think he will win.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 24 September 2010, 03:11:24 PM
:lol: It's GUARANTEED. 100% NAILED-ON. FREE MONEY.







:shifty:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 24 September 2010, 11:58:56 PM
I know a Croatian guy who swears that he used to live on the same street as Cro Cop so I guess I have to support Mirko. Always loved watching him fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 25 September 2010, 10:35:23 PM
Tom Kong Watson about to KO Alex Reid on Bravo.  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SAK on Saturday 25 September 2010, 10:41:58 PM
First round to Reid.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 25 September 2010, 10:43:44 PM
 :lol:

Aye can't believe it, expect it to be over by now, though too many elbows getting in to Reid, Watson looks like he can take it and tactically recover hanging on to Reid.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 25 September 2010, 10:49:24 PM
1-1

Reid just seems thick.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SAK on Saturday 25 September 2010, 10:53:20 PM
Yeah, idiot keeps dropping his guard.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 25 September 2010, 10:54:25 PM
Proper showboating and nearly getting knocked out. Can only think he's hurt badly and thinks the best way is to make himself look big rather than concentrate fully on the fight and have some sort of game plan.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 25 September 2010, 10:55:14 PM
I'd love to see him go through TUF.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 25 September 2010, 11:08:57 PM
He's got some heart, but nowt much else.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SAK on Saturday 25 September 2010, 11:09:44 PM
Took some big hits and rode them out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 25 September 2010, 11:10:40 PM
Would say 4-1 in rounds to TKW.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 25 September 2010, 11:37:46 PM
Well done Alex Reid... showed great heart & also looked a decent fighter. Would of liked to see him in better condition.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 26 September 2010, 03:05:44 AM
Prelims have been excellent do far.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 26 September 2010, 01:00:01 PM
Ah bugger, 119 last night?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 26 September 2010, 08:31:27 PM
I don't know what I can say about that event. The less said the better. And 120 looks s***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 26 September 2010, 09:01:35 PM
Yeah, by all accounts its one of the worst UFC events in recent history. Glad I missed it now.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 26 September 2010, 10:30:59 PM
f***ing hell man, can't believe I sat through all of that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 26 September 2010, 10:34:39 PM
Did anyone watch the prelims? They were spot on, the actual event was s**** though, Alex Reid's fight was better than anything 119 offered.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 26 September 2010, 10:35:42 PM
I'm downloading the prelims, which I've not seen, nor do I know the results of. I'm hoping that they rescue the event for me.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 26 September 2010, 10:37:57 PM
I'm downloading the prelims, which I've not seen, nor do I know the results of. I'm hoping that they rescue the event for me.

Just imagine they are the main event. Main event 3/10, prelims 7/10...normal standard of prelims 4/10 imo

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 26 September 2010, 10:39:52 PM
Oh my days, Arianny Celeste is soon going to be selling life-size stickers of herself on her website. I wonder if the GF would mind if I put a hole in the sticker and stuck it on top of her?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 26 September 2010, 10:42:49 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 27 September 2010, 03:16:32 AM
Terrible bunch of fights. Can't all be great, I guess.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 27 September 2010, 01:29:27 PM
So glad I didn't get to watch this now. Sounds like it was bloody awful on all accounts. Hope ufc 120 will be better. Doesn't look like it though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 27 September 2010, 05:27:32 PM
I wish Cro Cop would just unleash a flurry of kicks once in a while man but having said that he is massively out weighed in the Heavyweight division. He comes in right at the bottom of the scale. A 205-240 division would be ideal for him.

Thought Bader lost that fight....

Can't stand all this 120 hate; sure theres no massive name on the card but from a British point of view it is a mega intersting card and I bet we get to see some great fights.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 27 September 2010, 05:48:11 PM
You thought Bader lost? Did he not get 30-27 * 3??

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 27 September 2010, 05:48:58 PM
As far as 120 goes, Hathaway is the only name of any interest, the rest are filler at best.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 27 September 2010, 05:52:07 PM
Hathaway looked class last time out, fingers crossed he's trained hard and improved.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 27 September 2010, 09:00:28 PM
As far as 120 goes, Hathaway is the only name of any interest, the rest are filler at best.

What, you have no interest in Dan Hardy? Hathaway looks class like tbf and despite everything I still root for Bisping to win his fights.

Yeah I thought Bader lost; he lost the standup every round imo and just kept taking Nog down but apart from the first round he did no damage when he got him down. Like Rogan says, "Did that takedown score more than that knee?" I don't think it did tbh.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:45:40 PM
Anyone looking forward to tomorrow night? (Sunday morning) I can't wait :D

Just watched the TUF season with Bisping in so I'm looking forward to seeing him fight, he seems like a decent guy imo..  also agree about Hathaway I thought he looked class against Sanchez, be interesting to see if it was a one off performance. Haven't seen Dan Hardy yet but interested to see him going by what Pedro said.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:47:04 PM
Dan Hardy was impressive against GSP. In that he should've tapped about 4 times, but just refused. Never looked like doing anything positive though, got dominated. Saying all this, he's a good fighter and should win.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:48:29 PM
Should be decent, certainly no worse than 119 (which I didn't watch but the internet tells me is rubbish).
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: underthesea on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Not really that excited for 120, just seems like the boring prelim for the 121 PPV with Lesnar and Velasquez which I am pumped for.  Could be proved wrong though, and some of the card does look decent, especially looking forward to seeing Hardy again.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:51:15 PM
It's a decent card for a decent night of fighting, nothing more. Nothing very flashy, that'll come next week.

I personally guarantee that it will be three thousand times better than 119. Otherwise I will eat my own testicles.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:51:48 PM
Should be decent, certainly no worse than 119 (which I didn't watch but the internet tells me is rubbish).

Probably the only bad event I've watched since getting into it, didn't enjoy it at all, couple of decent rounds but that was about it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:53:56 PM
I could put on a card with my mates and it'd be better than 119. And none of them watch UFC or know how to fight.

Tho my fat nerd mate is a Jiu Jitsu black belt. He'd probably headline it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:55:30 PM
Should be decent, certainly no worse than 119 (which I didn't watch but the internet tells me is rubbish).

Probably the only bad event I've watched since getting into it, didn't enjoy it at all, couple of decent rounds but that was about it.

I've watched every UFC event from the start (thank you torrents), the early day shows were hard to get into since the fights lasted 60minutes and people just lay on each other.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 15 October 2010, 03:57:00 PM
UFC 100 Greatest Fights is an interesting compilation - it shows a few early fights. The guy with 1 boxing glove looked like a treat to watch.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 15 October 2010, 04:01:20 PM
UFC 100 Greatest Fights is an interesting compilation - it shows a few early fights. The guy with 1 boxing glove looked like a treat to watch.

Some of the early fights were insane, as there weren't very many rules (at least compared to today), and you had little skinny guys trying to fight huge fat guys. Tank Abbott was half decent if the fight lasted under a minute, if not he'd gas out straight away.

I've got them all on disk if you want to borrow a few, can drop them off tomorrow (when you pick me up for Football like).
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Friday 15 October 2010, 04:05:47 PM
Should be decent, certainly no worse than 119 (which I didn't watch but the internet tells me is rubbish).

Probably the only bad event I've watched since getting into it, didn't enjoy it at all, couple of decent rounds but that was about it.

I've watched every UFC event from the start (thank you torrents), the early day shows were hard to get into since the fights lasted 60minutes and people just lay on each other.

Aye I've seen some of those, that was before it came a sport imo.. some pretty funny weight differences, good to go back and see how much MMA has developed in such a short space of time.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 15 October 2010, 04:06:30 PM
Yeah, about that, I'm not insured on the car anymore. I've no clue how to get there.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 15 October 2010, 04:07:18 PM
Yeah, about that, I'm not insured on the car anymore. I've no clue how to get there.

Knock on my door, and I'll get my lass to give us a lift.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: underthesea on Friday 15 October 2010, 04:08:20 PM
It's a decent card for a decent night of fighting, nothing more. Nothing very flashy, that'll come next week.

I personally guarantee that it will be three thousand times better than 119. Otherwise I will eat my own testicles.

It would do well to do worse than 119.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 15 October 2010, 04:16:10 PM
Styles make fights!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 15 October 2010, 04:18:23 PM
Styles make fights!

Shonie Carter and that Canadian Ninja guy (something Newton) were fun to watch back in the day.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Friday 15 October 2010, 06:00:50 PM
TBH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0_svVIDORQ&p=C69C97B113338698&playnext=1&index=5

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 15 October 2010, 07:07:47 PM
McSwanker is now a light heavyweight, did not realise that. Maybe he won't be so s*** after all.

Hopefully not.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 October 2010, 01:54:38 PM
McSwanker is now a light heavyweight, did not realise that. Maybe he won't be so s*** after all.

Hopefully not.

Hate the guy.  I hope he never wins a fight ever again
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 16 October 2010, 02:30:31 PM
Looking forward to tonight, I think there could be some great fights!

Bisping vs Sexyyama will be a war.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 October 2010, 02:49:33 PM
Condit hardy....Every fright condit is in is a war!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 October 2010, 04:02:15 PM
The bets are in

Paul Sass @ 1/2
Match Betting
Mark Holst v Paul Sass   Pending   £10.00
   
Cheick Kongo @ 1/2
Match Betting
Cheick Kongo v Travis Browne   Pending

Michael Bisping @ 1/2
Match Betting
Michael Bisping v Yoshihiro Akiyama   Pending  - If i was not betting i would have wanted Sexy to win but i think bisping will keep it standing and out point him.

Dan Hardy @ 8/15
Match Betting
Carlos Condit v Dan Hardy   Pending

John Hathaway @ 1/5
Match Betting
John Hathaway v Mike Pyle
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 16 October 2010, 07:26:11 PM
No Prelims on ESPN tonight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 October 2010, 07:45:01 PM
Prelim

Spoiler
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:06:06 PM
Draw?!!? f***ing draw?!!?

Congo lost that s*** IMO. Without the docked point.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:06:15 PM
A draw? Oh dear.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:12:32 PM
Seems the bet gets refunded.  Why hold the shorts he had round 2 and 3 !
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:42:13 PM
My stream i s***.  only thing i get to see is the fights none of the interviews etc
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: GAMMELL on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:48:52 PM
Dan Hardy there :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: GAMMELL on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:54:10 PM
f***ing WOW, Condit KO'd Hardy inside the 1st. f*** me
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: GAMMELL on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:54:55 PM
That was some f***ing left hand
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 16 October 2010, 09:59:03 PM
Howay Bisping lad :smitten:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: GAMMELL on Saturday 16 October 2010, 10:29:05 PM
Kick straight to the bollox... Nice on Bisping
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Saturday 16 October 2010, 10:37:54 PM
Good fight and a decent event :)

Bisping is going to be in Hollyoaks? :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 16 October 2010, 10:47:22 PM
Not overly impressed with that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 17 October 2010, 09:00:21 PM
Gave Burnip a disk with UFC 11-16(I think) on it, couldn't find the earlier ones, but I'll have a good look.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 18 October 2010, 01:11:58 AM
Pretty crap event in all honesty.

That should be a massive lesson for Hathaway; I'm sure he'll learn from it.

Gutted for Hardy like; despite his brash, full on style he is really a classy guy and I wish him all the best in the future. Condit was basically awesome tonight, that punch would have knocked anybody out.

Bisping, oh Bisping.....you have great workrate and nice technical ability but there are two reasons why you will never be champion: you can't finish the top guys and you can't take much punishment. To me he is always one reasonable shot away from being knocked out; Silva would KO him no doubt. That said, I do hope he can do it one day somehow.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 18 October 2010, 08:27:16 AM
Bisping is not my favourite guy in the world, but I think that's a harsh judgement. Sexyama was not going down, he could have stood there all night taking shots from Drederick Tatum and he still wouldn't have gone down.

Bisping dominated him and did what he had to do to win, but this is Sexyama's 3rd Fight of the Night in a row, and there's a reason why. (Other than the rest of the fights being s***!)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 18 October 2010, 12:55:34 PM
I wouldn't say its a harsh assesment tbh; I like Bisping and always want him to win. I was gutted when Henderson KO'd him but that's just it, I don't think he can take much punishment at all. In his recent fights he always seems to so close to getting KO'd out of nowhere by a half decent punch never mind a proper haymaker like Hardy ate. Take this fight for example, I think it was about twice Sexyama landed a couple of half decent shots and Bisping was in serious trouble but he managed to survive once by escaping and also being saved by the bell. It was the same against Wandy. Wish him every success though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 18 October 2010, 04:36:02 PM
Lesnar V Velasquez Primetime ep1:  :thup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg1qbpQ5_Eg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYK8azvOaug&feature=related
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Monday 18 October 2010, 04:39:09 PM
How mint does Brock look with that beard man :lol: One step closer to being a real viking.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 18 October 2010, 04:41:09 PM
If my facial hair was 25 times longer, it'd look like that. All I need now is the tattoos and me == Brock.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 18 October 2010, 04:49:01 PM
You'd have to grow about a foot and gain like 300lb of muscle like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 18 October 2010, 04:50:22 PM
I'd also have to work on an American accent, but I didn't feel the need to explicitly state all these minor details.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 18 October 2010, 05:02:13 PM
Primetime ep2:  :thup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp7m8CRo0kk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQEqg3vNZg
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 18 October 2010, 09:49:41 PM
I'd also have to work on an American accent, but I didn't feel the need to explicitly state all these minor details.

You'd be married to Sable too, or once upon a time you would have. Hmm.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 24 October 2010, 02:56:41 AM
Prelims have been decent.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 24 October 2010, 04:13:02 AM
I'm sure these fights are better than I think, but all I want to see is Lesnar's fight. Sign of a good headliner, I guess.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 24 October 2010, 05:23:16 AM
 :kinnear:

Spoiler
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 24 October 2010, 05:30:39 AM
Pretty damn impressive.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 24 October 2010, 08:07:17 AM
Badest man on the planet :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 24 October 2010, 10:22:55 AM
Almost feel a bit disappointed with the ease he was destroyed. I wanted to believe he was a total machine after the Carwin beat down recovery, but I think it just showed Carwin's lack of intelligence/gas.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 24 October 2010, 02:28:10 PM
Almost whitied when I saw the hole in Lesnar's face
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 24 October 2010, 05:38:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHtxPew5Os

Skip to 46 seconds in for the Gem!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 24 October 2010, 05:52:50 PM
Ha, lie down Lesnar you high voiced w*****.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 24 October 2010, 06:11:00 PM
Great show.

Sanchez fight was awesome :) Fight of the night imo..

Lesner just looked like he was scared of getting punched.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: 1878 on Sunday 24 October 2010, 06:32:10 PM
Good to see Lesnar have some humility knocked into him last night
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 24 October 2010, 06:34:57 PM
Brock Lesnar acts no different to the majority of other fighters, everyone just has a pointless chip on their shoulder about him for no reason. I assume the justificaiton for the bitching is that he was 'fast tracked' to a title shot. If that hadn't happened, half the people in this thread wouldn't have a clue what the UFC was tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: 1878 on Sunday 24 October 2010, 06:37:34 PM
Brock Lesnar acts no different to the majority of other fighters, everyone just has a pointless chip on their shoulder about him for no reason. I assume the justificaiton for the bitching is that he was 'fast tracked' to a title shot. If that hadn't happened, half the people in this thread wouldn't have a clue what the UFC was tbh.

The way he acted after his first few wins was a disgrace tbh. Not 'no different to the majority of other fighters'.

He was very disrespectful and loudmouthed in a sport that generally has more mutual respect than the likes of boxing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Sunday 24 October 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Brock Lesnar acts no different to the majority of other fighters, everyone just has a pointless chip on their shoulder about him for no reason. I assume the justificaiton for the bitching is that he was 'fast tracked' to a title shot. If that hadn't happened, half the people in this thread wouldn't have a clue what the UFC was tbh.

Don't you just mean Mattis? Don't see anyone else having a chip on their shoulder.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 24 October 2010, 06:43:42 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2nkigc9.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 24 October 2010, 06:53:51 PM
Brock Lesnar acts no different to the majority of other fighters, everyone just has a pointless chip on their shoulder about him for no reason. I assume the justificaiton for the bitching is that he was 'fast tracked' to a title shot. If that hadn't happened, half the people in this thread wouldn't have a clue what the UFC was tbh.

Don't you just mean Mattis? Don't see anyone else having a chip on their shoulder.

Not necessarily just here, I'm talking UFC fans as a whole tbh, they can't deal with Brock. Dunno if they're just being fags over his WWE tenure or what.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 24 October 2010, 07:00:22 PM
I love brock...becasue he brings fans into MMA.  Anything that gets people interested in MMA is fine by me!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 24 October 2010, 07:09:04 PM
Lesnar is great because he sells fights and has a legit collegiate wrestling background. He's still fairly new to the MMA scene and will improve as time goes on, though I feel he needs to join a proper training camp to develop his skills.

On another note, I was a bit disappointed with Joe Rogan's commentary during the Jake Shields fight. I know he's more biased towards BJJ fighters (like Slim) but his commentary last night was ridiculous.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 24 October 2010, 07:37:31 PM
Lesnar is great because he sells fights and has a legit collegiate wrestling background. He's still fairly new to the MMA scene and will improve as time goes on, though I feel he needs to join a proper training camp to develop his skills.

On another note, I was a bit disappointed with Joe Rogan's commentary during the Jake Shields fight. I know he's more biased towards BJJ fighters (like Slim) but his commentary last night was ridiculous.

Tbh i had Shields losing that fight.  Yeah Rogan loves the BJ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6_k9rtDL8M&feature=related
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 24 October 2010, 07:37:33 PM
Taker. :smitten:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 25 October 2010, 12:30:57 AM
Wow, great card; Velasquez is the man like. All credit to him.

I still love watching brock though and hope he comes back strong. Like already said he sells fights brilliantly and is a f***ing beast! Just wish he started training in MMA aged 18 instead of 31. Can you imagine that? Surely he'd be unbeatable.

Diego Sanchez was f***ing class too. Loved that screaming slam. :lol:

Rogan made that comment about the way Shields looked at the weigh in and if you listened carefully at the end of the first round Shields said something along the lines of that he was f***ed up off the weight cut. His grappling is seriously impressive. I was tying myself up in knots just watching the f***er!

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 25 October 2010, 01:14:25 AM
Another classic Joe Rogan line from last night:

"Ladies and gentlemen, this is Brock Lesnar. A thousand years ago the only time you ever saw a guy like this was when he arrived on your shore in a boat and then you ran." :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 25 October 2010, 08:41:35 AM
I'm looking forward to Brock making his way back up. Brock vs Big Country would be a hoot.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 25 October 2010, 08:42:04 AM
That is, after Shane Carwin has mushed Big Country's face into a fine paste.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 25 October 2010, 09:53:25 AM
Who is next in line for Title shot status anyway? Dos Santos? Can't really think of anyone else.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Monday 25 October 2010, 10:02:33 AM
Dos Santos got the number 1 contender spot by beating Nelson if I remember correctly.

I love Brock, I think he has curbed his attitude since the second Mir fight and is a lot more modest now than he's previously been.

It's hard to see who Brock's next fight could be against to be honest.  If Nelson goes down to Carwin, surely that knocks him down the rankings again?  I wonder whether somebody like Nogueira would be a good next opponent?

Can't believe I didn't see Rampage vs. Machida as the next main event as well, two of my favourite fighters, gona be a hard one to watch!

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 25 October 2010, 10:17:04 AM
I loved Brocks entrance the other night, it was proper WWE style; a bit of Metallica, pulling some angry faces and shoving coppers out of the way. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 25 October 2010, 11:01:02 AM
Maybe Brock can take on Brendan Schaub. That'd be funny.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 25 October 2010, 11:25:47 AM
Brock is gonna meet two decent fighters at most then he's gonna get a title shot again knowing Dana well.
Before those games he's gonna put proper tough ones against Velasquez so he's proper shaked and stired til Brock gets to meet him again.

White is NOT happy seeing Velasquez as a champion and he will use the first chance he gets to get Lesnar back in the title shot race, f***ing disgrace really but no one gets as many pay-per-views as Brock though.

For real?  I mean the latin community went nuts, sure thats what UFC wanted.

Brock will get more chances, but he is a limited fighter.
Most games  he wins by brute force, both Dos Santos and Velasquez is better fighters IMO.
Be interesting to see if Brock try to get new training partners or join a better camp to get more technical skills.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 25 October 2010, 11:30:10 AM
Brock needs to give up on standing up with people and just shoot. Shoot shoot and more shoot. Get some real technical ground skills and he'll be respected far more. It's not like he's a bad wrestler, given his credentials, but he took Velasquez down and failed to keep him down. I was really unimpressed with that personally.

Ultimately, the list of top heavyweights isn't all that impressive, and he's already beaten a handful of them, so it's not like he doesn't deserve to be "there or thereabouts".

p.s. Cain isnt even Mexican, he's a phoney.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 25 October 2010, 11:43:00 AM
Yeah, know that, but UFC played the mexican card as much as they could, money money money but i dont blame them.
And tbf he have mexican herritage, and he`s father is Mexican, so i would say he is Mexican by heart, American on paper.

Yup, he deserves to be there, but he really want to go down as a real legend, and want to be the ultimate fighter.
There are a lot of things he need to address to get there.
It was identical match as the Carwin fight, but Cain was just smarter and a lot more stamina.
Brock need to get some BJJ training to get more skills on the floor, he relies to much on brute wrestling, and in the end its not enough agains the top dogs.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 25 October 2010, 02:07:30 PM
Brock will be back, it's only his 6th fight man.

Jds will beat cain, Brock will beat Jds...... simples!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 25 October 2010, 02:59:09 PM
Brock will be back, it's only his 6th fight man.

Jds will beat cain, Brock will beat Jds...... simples!!

(http://img.imtwelve.com/gallery/f***%20yeah67n.jpg)

 :colo:

Jds will beat cain though..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 09:29:31 AM
I am not so sure JDS will beat Cain tbh.

JDS is a better boxer/strike, but Cain is more well rounded, and he will take JDS down and GnP him for a win.
The JDS v Cain match will be a f***ing fight, can`t wait.

I actually think Carwin will have a better shot at taking Cain tbh, if he manages to strike him down first round.
I think Carwin got a wakeup call against Brock, and will work on he`s stamina.
Carwin will KO Nelson at UFC 125 (something JDS did not manage), so i think he will get the winner of JDS and Cain (who i hope meet at UFC 128)

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 10:12:14 AM
Tbh I can't see JDS beating Cain. Not a chance in hell tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 10:19:30 AM
Now that's just silly talk pedro. I think Cain has the advantage, but not by much. JDS should not be underestimated.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 10:39:47 AM
Now that's just silly talk pedro. I think Cain has the advantage, but not by much. JDS should not be underestimated.

I don't think its silly talk. Just can't see JDS putting Cain away at any point; even with strikes. I've always been impressed with Cain but after seeing him dominate Brock he is surely the complete fighter.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 10:47:48 AM
Now that's just silly talk pedro. I think Cain has the advantage, but not by much. JDS should not be underestimated.

I don't think its silly talk. Just can't see JDS putting Cain away at any point; even with strikes. I've always been impressed with Cain but after seeing him dominate Brock he is surely the complete fighter.

It's not that straightforward though, Cain couldn't put away Cheick Kongo a year ago, JDS couldn't put away fatty, it happens. What if Big Country doesn't get taken out by Carwin next month? Then how do you judge JDS's ability? Too judgemental, too soon. Cain is not the perfect fighter.

Also, maybe JDS can't put Cain away, but then maybe Cain can't put JDS away too. You don't know.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 10:53:27 AM
Yeah I know what your saying SEMMY, things change all the time but f*** me man, Cain destroyed brock so easily it was like the effort it took him was like he was making a leisurely jam sandwich on a sunday afternoon or something. No sweat.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 10:55:24 AM
Carwin is too much muscles like Brock is that's why they have to get a quick knockout or they are gassed.
Cain is just a smart fighter, think he will last for a while.

Brock Has good cardio as he showed against herring & couture, Joe Rogan said on saturday that brock had gassed I don't think he had, He was just beaten by a better fighter.

Cain vs Jds will be a war, Cain showed against Kongo that he's not as effective when he's on the back foot & one things for certain Jds will not be sitting back.

Don't know why but I really don't like cain, I honestly thought brock would beat him..
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 10:55:51 AM
Yeah I know what your saying SEMMY, things change all the time but f*** me man, Cain destroyed brock so easily it was like the effort it took him was like he was making a leisurely jam sandwich on a sunday afternoon or something. No sweat.

I'd put it down to Brock's inadequacies as a MMA fighter rather than Cain's dominance. Brock has a lot to learn, JDS won't have the same basic flaws.

You'll see paedro, you'll see.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 11:34:56 AM
Yeah I know what your saying SEMMY, things change all the time but f*** me man, Cain destroyed brock so easily it was like the effort it took him was like he was making a leisurely jam sandwich on a sunday afternoon or something. No sweat.

I'd put it down to Brock's inadequacies as a MMA fighter rather than Cain's dominance. Brock has a lot to learn, JDS won't have the same basic flaws.

You'll see paedro, you'll see.

JDS vs cain is in my eyes as even match as you can get, it will be a bloodbath ;)
But i am curious about JDS ground game, Cain can and will try to get him on he`s back.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 11:50:30 AM
Yeah I know what your saying SEMMY, things change all the time but f*** me man, Cain destroyed brock so easily it was like the effort it took him was like he was making a leisurely jam sandwich on a sunday afternoon or something. No sweat.

I'd put it down to Brock's inadequacies as a MMA fighter rather than Cain's dominance. Brock has a lot to learn, JDS won't have the same basic flaws.

You'll see paedro, you'll see.

Hey, less of this paedro stuff, young man. Cain to win via a figure four leg lock in round 2.  :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 11:59:36 AM
Cain won't have the chance tbh, not once the Dos Santos Stunner has hit him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 12:30:25 PM
Yeah I know what your saying SEMMY, things change all the time but f*** me man, Cain destroyed brock so easily it was like the effort it took him was like he was making a leisurely jam sandwich on a sunday afternoon or something. No sweat.

I'd put it down to Brock's inadequacies as a MMA fighter rather than Cain's dominance. Brock has a lot to learn, JDS won't have the same basic flaws.

You'll see paedro, you'll see.

JDS vs cain is in my eyes as even match as you can get, it will be a bloodbath ;)
But i am curious about JDS ground game, Cain can and will try to get him on he`s back.

Dos Santos is a black belt it Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Hits like a tank & has a great chin.

50/50 I'd say but I want Jds to win  :snod:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:02:54 PM
Yeah I know what your saying SEMMY, things change all the time but f*** me man, Cain destroyed brock so easily it was like the effort it took him was like he was making a leisurely jam sandwich on a sunday afternoon or something. No sweat.

I'd put it down to Brock's inadequacies as a MMA fighter rather than Cain's dominance. Brock has a lot to learn, JDS won't have the same basic flaws.

You'll see paedro, you'll see.

JDS vs cain is in my eyes as even match as you can get, it will be a bloodbath ;)
But i am curious about JDS ground game, Cain can and will try to get him on he`s back.

Dos Santos is a black belt it Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Hits like a tank & has a great chin.

50/50 I'd say but I want Jds to win  :snod:

He`s a brown belt isent he? And i can`t se how it really matters tbh.
Roy Nelson even have a black belt under Gracie :)

Its more about how comfortable they are on the back in a MMA fight, and we have seen none of this from JDS.

He might prove me wrong on the ground game, and i will eat my words, but i think Cain is stronger there.

Agree with you on the 50/50 odds though ;)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:04:10 PM
No matter what, we're all agreed that pedro is 100% wrong.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:12:58 PM
No matter what, we're all agreed that pedro is 100% wrong.

WHATATAT?

Cain will win. FACT.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:15:43 PM
No matter what, we're all agreed that pedro is 100% wrong.

Yes.   :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:27:37 PM
Yeah I know what your saying SEMMY, things change all the time but f*** me man, Cain destroyed brock so easily it was like the effort it took him was like he was making a leisurely jam sandwich on a sunday afternoon or something. No sweat.

I'd put it down to Brock's inadequacies as a MMA fighter rather than Cain's dominance. Brock has a lot to learn, JDS won't have the same basic flaws.

You'll see paedro, you'll see.

JDS vs cain is in my eyes as even match as you can get, it will be a bloodbath ;)
But i am curious about JDS ground game, Cain can and will try to get him on he`s back.

Dos Santos is a black belt it Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Hits like a tank & has a great chin.

50/50 I'd say but I want Jds to win  :snod:

He`s a brown belt isent he? And i can`t se how it really matters tbh.
Roy Nelson even have a black belt under Gracie :)

Its more about how comfortable they are on the back in a MMA fight, and we have seen none of this from JDS.

He might prove me wrong on the ground game, and eat my words, but i thinK Cain is stronger there.

Agree with you on the 50/50 odds though ;)

Ahh I thought he was a black belt  O0

Still with big nog as his trainer I'm pretty certain it will be good  :shifty:

I do think Cain is stronger on the ground, But he needs to get it there first.

Either way I can't wait to watch it!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:28:05 PM
No matter what, we're all agreed that pedro is 100% wrong.

Yes.   :lol:

Yup !!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:30:05 PM
When Cain destroys him I want and expect some kind of compensation from all you wicked folk.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:43:44 PM
From what I've seen they're both f***ing nails, should be a great fight when it happens.

However I'm going to join camp Pedro.. Cain FTW  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:47:21 PM
From what I've seen they're both f***ing nails, should be a great fight when it happens.

However I'm going to join camp Pedro.. Cain FTW  :coolsmiley:

Thankyou Clay. :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:50:54 PM
Dudes, if you check my post you see that i do think Cain will win.
But i just are a little more on the fence, and think it will be a very open fight.
Can go both ways, but i am 99,7% sure Cain would want to make this a ground game.

But this is a fight i would not bet on  ;D
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 01:53:44 PM
I think Cain will win too, but I'm not a paedro who think it'll be a walkover. Clay, I think you're in the everyone-but-pedro camp :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quit with this paedro s*** will you?  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 05:32:28 PM
When u agree with me, you're Pedro, if you disagree, it's paedro for you!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 06:17:18 PM
I am not so sure JDS will beat Cain tbh.

JDS is a better boxer/strike, but Cain is more well rounded, and he will take JDS down and GnP him for a win.
The JDS v Cain match will be a f***ing fight, can`t wait.

I actually think Carwin will have a better shot at taking Cain tbh, if he manages to strike him down first round.
I think Carwin got a wakeup call against Brock, and will work on he`s stamina.
Carwin will KO Nelson at UFC 125 (something JDS did not manage), so i think he will get the winner of JDS and Cain (who i hope meet at UFC 128)



f***, Carwin pulled from UFC 125, back injury  :dave:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 06:18:23 PM
!? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Who can replace him?! Roy Nelson vs...? Mir? Cro Cop!?

BAH
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 06:20:15 PM
PLEASE LET IT BE BROCK
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 06:41:32 PM
!? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Who can replace him?! Roy Nelson vs...? Mir? Cro Cop!?

BAH

Mir would be my guess or brendon schaub.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 06:51:28 PM
!? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Who can replace him?! Roy Nelson vs...? Mir? Cro Cop!?

BAH

Mir would be my guess or brendon schaub.

He only fought Schaub a year ago, I'm not sure a rematch is on the cards quite yet. It'd be a very boring choice anyway, certainly not "co-main event" status.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 October 2010, 08:51:17 PM
Mir is my guess, but i really have no idea... :laugh2:

Disappointed with all this tbh, really wanted to see if Carwin could knock Nelson. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Wednesday 27 October 2010, 01:09:06 AM
Mir or Kongo, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 27 October 2010, 08:25:04 AM
If it's Kongo, they better reduce it from co-main event status, Kongo is a waste of my time.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Wednesday 27 October 2010, 09:19:57 AM
Maybe Travis Browne could stand in, or Jon Madsen (who had a good win at 121)?

Doesn't seem to be many other fighters that really warrant stepping in.

I can see it being Mir, but maybe Nogueira or Kongo could take it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 28 October 2010, 05:59:17 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/10/28/dana-white-wec-ufc-to-merge-in-2011/

Quote
World Extreme Cagefighting is merging with its sister organization the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

In the video interview below, Dana White exclusively confirmed that the merger will take place in January 2011. In addition, White said that four UFC events will air live on Versus in 2011.

The final two WEC cards will air on the cable network on Nov. 11 and Dec. 16, which means that starting next year, the UFC will absorb WEC's 135, 145 and 155 weight classes.

White explained the timing of the decision and what this means for all parties involved. He also provided updates on what's next for Brock Lesnar and Tito Ortiz, as well as his take on the Undertaker-Lesnar exchange following UFC 121.

Mixed feelings on this. WEC has helped some of the smaller guys get some exposure, but with little in terms of payout. If UFC is to take them on board hopefully they'll get the exposure and a decent pay out. Little guys fight insane anyway.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 28 October 2010, 06:07:40 PM
Positive for me. Hopefully it means more UFC events rather than less opportunities for WEC fighters.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 28 October 2010, 06:17:45 PM
What's the deal with the lightweights though? Merged belts?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 28 October 2010, 06:18:16 PM
WWF style BELT V BELT!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 28 October 2010, 07:01:20 PM
They'll probably market Jose Aldo as the next Anderson Silva.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: 1878 on Thursday 28 October 2010, 07:21:55 PM
They'll probably market Jose Aldo as the next Anderson Silva.

:thup:

Aldo is brilliant.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 28 October 2010, 07:29:39 PM
They'll probably market Jose Aldo as the next Anderson Silva.

:thup:

Aldo is brilliant.

Yeah, he's a machine.  His kicks are insane.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 28 October 2010, 08:27:36 PM
UFC TV station is coming  :frantic:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Thursday 28 October 2010, 09:24:40 PM
What's the deal with the lightweights though? Merged belts?

The winner of the Henderson-Pettis match in December becomes the official #1 contender for the UFC lightweight title.

Also looks like Aldo will defend the title in the co-main event for the January 1 card now, replacing Big Country vs Carwin.

I think this is good news. One or two fights in these weight classes on each UFC card means there will be guaranteed good fights on PPVs. I'll miss the full out WEC events, though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 28 October 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Not sure we'll get MORE UFC events, can't see them letting the WEC guys hold a card up. If anything we'll be getting less events, since we won't be getting the WEC events. Reckon a lot of these guys will appear on UFC Fight Night, and there'll probably be an Ultimate Fighter Season based around them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 09:02:40 PM
Most of you have probably seen this but what do you think this was all about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSBdoz1L3xs&NR=1
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 09:06:06 PM
No clue why they don't like each other, but I'll drink a cup of my own p*ss if it results in any form of WWE matchup, if thats what you were getting at.

Is everyone up-to-date with TUF? I didn't think I could dislike Koscheck more, but I'm proved wrong week after week.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 09:09:37 PM
No clue why they don't like each other, but I'll drink a cup of my own p*ss if it results in any form of WWE matchup, if thats what you were getting at.

Is everyone up-to-date with TUF? I didn't think I could dislike Koscheck more, but I'm proved wrong week after week.

Apparently some people think The Undertaker saying "Do you wanna do it" was him questioning Brocks desire to be in the UFC, especially when Taker says to the interviewer that he thought that maybe Brock didnt train hard enough for the fight. Taker used to mentor Lesnar in the WWE by all accounts.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 09:13:37 PM
No clue why they don't like each other, but I'll drink a cup of my own p*ss if it results in any form of WWE matchup, if thats what you were getting at.

Is everyone up-to-date with TUF? I didn't think I could dislike Koscheck more, but I'm proved wrong week after week.

Apparently some people think The Undertaker saying "Do you wanna do it" was him questioning Brocks desire to be in the UFC, especially when Taker says to the interviewer that he thought that maybe Brock didnt train hard enough for the fight. Taker used to mentor Lesnar in the WWE by all accounts.

I don't sign up to that like, I just think Brock probably looked at him in some intimidating way / said something raji, and Taker was just holding his ground asking whether he wanted to fight, in a big macho stylie. Nowt more.

Who knows, but I just don't read much into this at all.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 09:15:39 PM
Lesnar and Taker have always been reported to be good friends so the stare down was a little strange.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 09:34:30 PM
"Management representing a top UFC fighter has sent feelers to WWE about joining the company when his UFC contract expires. It's said the fighter is one of the last people you'd expect to join pro wrestling."

credit: lordsofpain.net
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 10:21:48 PM
Quote
We’ll have more in the next issue on the Undertaker/Brock Lesnar confrontation after Lesnar’s title
loss.
What happened was as Lesnar was leaving to go backstage after his loss, Ariel Helwani was
interviewing Undertaker. On the clip, Undertaker, sitting in the front row (tickets courtesy of the UFC)
looked at Lesnar and asked if he wanted to go right now. Lesnar kept walking. Helwani didn’t know
about the angle the two were doing and was shocked, although he did get Undertaker to say that if he
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was 20 years younger, would he have done MMA instead of pro wrestling. He said it was a lock that
he would have, but he was too late in the game to make the change.
The short version is that dialogue has been floated about Lesnar appearing at WrestleMania in a role
similar to that of Floyd Mayweather from two years ago. Mayweather received seven figures(not the
$20 million said but a couple of million was real) as a guest star. While Lesnar makes huge money in
MMA, appearing at Mania would give him a chance to make very close to a big fight number, maybe
even more, without having to go through a hard training camp and a fight.
That info was a well guarded secret that very few were aware of. I don’t believe a formal offer was
made, but dialogue did exist. Undertaker chartered a flight from Anaheim to Minneapolis, since he
couldn’t afford to risk commercial travel and a problem that could get him in late.
When he got to the show, he was vague about what happened or why it happened. It’s said almost
nobody knew. Dana White wasn’t clued in. Helwani wasn’t either. It was just lucky he was there, but if
he wasn’t, the confrontation would have happened and they likely were counting on either someone
with a phone would take video or people at ringside would see it and word would get out, and
probably and without video, the word would likely end up being magnified as people’s imaginations
would run wild.
A lot of people thought the confrontation was legitimate based on past heat between the two. Stories
abounded about there being heat over a girl from years back, heat over the night Undertaker refused to
put Lesnar over in a PPV main event (which ended up leading to a bigger match where Undertaker did
put him over), or heat over the way Lesnar left the company with the idea Undertaker was mad
because Lesnar didn’t return the favor and put him over. While Undertaker and Lesnar may not have
been social friends, there was mutual respect. Undertaker is actually a Lesnar fan and one of the
biggest UFC fans among the WWE performers. The idea was to test the waters. Nothing was said on
WWE television, because Undertaker was being buried alive at the PPV and teased not to return, so it
made no sense. Plus, there is no deal. It only makes sense that Lesnar would be interested in doing
something if he can get that kind of money.
However, the issue is White has made it clear that he will not allow anyone under contract to do pro
wrestling. White told tmz.com that they have Lesnar under an exclusive contract that doesn’t allow
him to do boxing or pro wrestling without his permission.
WWE creative didn’t even know what was or wasn’t real the next day, but apparently were clued in
and told to come up with ideas, based on Lesnar being a guest referee for Undertaker’s Mania match,
this week talked about being against either Kane, or more likely, Wade Barrett. The idea would be to
tease a confrontation between the two, similar to the Steve Austin/Mike Tyson angle in 1998. The idea
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of Lesnar vs. Undertaker in a singles main event, while obviously the dream main event scenario for
Mania, had issues over the finish. When the idea was cooked up, Lesnar was UFC champion and
wasn’t going to lose at Mania, and they didn’t want Undertaker losing.
While almost nobody expects Lesnar to return to pro wrestling any time soon, perhaps never, because
he hated the travel, making huge money for a single date and not having to do the schedule is a
different ball game.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 10:27:33 PM
I have read that and I am still confused as to what the f*** was going on.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 9 November 2010, 10:29:07 PM
Drink my own p*ss.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 13 November 2010, 09:45:03 AM
First UFC ever in Germany starts in 11 hours. Any predictions?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 13 November 2010, 10:22:33 AM
It'll be s***. That's my prediction.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 13 November 2010, 11:37:32 AM
Hope the two English lads win but it is a monumentally s*** card.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 13 November 2010, 11:38:13 AM
It's because it's in Gormany & it's not even a PPV. Spike TV freebie.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: geordiemonster on Saturday 13 November 2010, 11:45:16 AM
Hope the two English lads win but it is a monumentally s*** card.

I often find the cards with the big names in tend to be pretty disappointing.  Best UFC I've seen by a long way was "Fight for the troops" a couple of years ago.  Josh Koscheck was probably the biggest name there, but there was some fantastic fights and some incredible knockouts with not as much of the rolling around on the ground that I dislike while watching MMA.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 13 November 2010, 11:47:34 AM
Hope the two English lads win but it is a monumentally s*** card.

I often find the cards with the big names in tend to be pretty disappointing.  Best UFC I've seen by a long way was "Fight for the troops" a couple of years ago.  Josh Koscheck was probably the biggest name there, but there was some fantastic fights and some incredible knockouts with not as much of the rolling around on the ground that I dislike while watching MMA.

UFC 119 + 120 had fairly low ranked fighters, and they were terrible. Whilst some of the no name fighters can obviously perform, the hype behind the big-name fights certainly helps make the events imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 13 November 2010, 02:15:11 PM
Looks like a s*** card yeah, but the fights might be good.

Looking forward to Siver roundhouse kicking Winner Norris style though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 13 November 2010, 09:16:55 PM
Totally forgot to invite Dan over to watch this.  :iamatwat:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 13 November 2010, 09:17:59 PM
Haha the card is too awful to justify wheeling my bike out. AND I'VE GOT A HORRIBLE COLD.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 13 November 2010, 09:24:39 PM
Its alreet, we've all got the bug too. It hasn't been too bad - UFC I mean.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 13 November 2010, 10:21:09 PM
* Middleweight bout: United States Jorge Rivera vs. Italy Alessio Sakara - Sakara has flu.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 13 November 2010, 10:41:18 PM
Pretty average card as expected. Siver looked good though.

It's interesting now to see who will win between Silva and Belfort, as I think Okami is the type of fighter that can break down Belfort but I can't see him causing much trouble for Silva.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 14 November 2010, 04:34:39 PM
Pretty awful fights, tbh.

The WEC event midweek was great though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 14 November 2010, 10:05:34 PM
Nothing spectacular this weekend.
Looking forward to next round, BJ V Hughes and Rampage vs Machida   O0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 15 November 2010, 07:14:06 AM
Main Event was terrible like. Dennis Siver vs. Andre Winner was probably FOTN, if only because they swung at each other like two Andy Carrolls.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 15 November 2010, 02:30:45 PM
I thought the event was alright tbh. Marquadt vs Okami was decent as far as I'm concerned, but it wasn't a headline fight by a long shot. You put that fight in the middle of the night and people would be praising it.

That Czech guy that they showed at the end was a f***ing scary beast.

Oh, and McCray lost. Shame.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 15 November 2010, 02:33:16 PM
I thought the event was alright tbh. Marquadt vs Okami was decent as far as I'm concerned, but it wasn't a headline fight by a long shot. You put that fight in the middle of the night and people would be praising it.

That Czech guy that they showed at the end was a f***ing scary beast.
Oh, and McCray lost. Shame.

Ay, f***ing hell. Good move of him to go down a weight class.
Going to be fun to watch him against a fighter who can hold him for a round or two, check he`s cardio.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 15 November 2010, 03:09:48 PM
Some good fights on 122, but nothing spectacular.

I think Okami has a good chance of beating both Belfort and Silva. Okami is prettry similar to Sonnen, and look how close he came. Have Okami had a close fight with Silva before as well? Imagine I heard something about that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 15 November 2010, 03:22:23 PM
Some good fights on 122, but nothing spectacular.

I think Okami has a good chance of beating both Belfort and Silva. Okami is prettry similar to Sonnen, and look how close he came. Have Okami had a close fight with Silva before as well? Imagine I heard something about that.

Rogan said that Okami beat Silva, but it was cos Silva was DQ.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 15 November 2010, 04:21:18 PM
I think Silva is too much for Okami; it will be hard keeping Silva down without the risk of getting submitted. Belfort on the other hand has always had trouble with high quality wrestlers and with Okami's grinding style, it's a good opportunity for Okami to secure the decision.

I'm still hoping Silva will fight either GSP or Shogun before he retires.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 15 November 2010, 10:08:34 PM
Nowt to do with UFC but i just got 2 stripes on my BJJ white belt making it 3 stripes....im off to get p*ssed :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Monday 15 November 2010, 11:52:02 PM
Slim has an Adidas belt.




Seriously though, congrats.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 16 November 2010, 09:32:17 AM
Congrats Slim. I have no idea what it means though. What does it mean?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 16 November 2010, 11:54:06 AM
Way to go, Slim. I've been training for three months. Have yet to earn my first stripe, but I don't think it will be long. How long did it take you to get three stripes?

EDIT: Conjo, getting stripes on your belt is how you get promoted in BJJ. You start with a white belt and then have to earn four stripes on your belt before you can move up to blue, and then four stripes on your blue before moving to purple, etc. So, when you're training BJJ you don't move up belt colours as quickly as you would in other martial arts (in my opinion).
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 16 November 2010, 06:51:06 PM
Way to go, Slim. I've been training for three months. Have yet to earn my first stripe, but I don't think it will be long. How long did it take you to get three stripes?

EDIT: Conjo, getting stripes on your belt is how you get promoted in BJJ. You start with a white belt and then have to earn four stripes on your belt before you can move up to blue, and then four stripes on your blue before moving to purple, etc. So, when you're training BJJ you don't move up belt colours as quickly as you would in other martial arts (in my opinion).


Maybe 3-4 months could be more though.  He is tight as f*** when giving out belts or stripes.   Should get your first stripe soon if you have a basic understanding.  I think i only got it becasue i roll with purple belts all the time he gave me my first.

Who do you train under?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Wednesday 17 November 2010, 06:57:48 PM
Way to go, Slim. I've been training for three months. Have yet to earn my first stripe, but I don't think it will be long. How long did it take you to get three stripes?

EDIT: Conjo, getting stripes on your belt is how you get promoted in BJJ. You start with a white belt and then have to earn four stripes on your belt before you can move up to blue, and then four stripes on your blue before moving to purple, etc. So, when you're training BJJ you don't move up belt colours as quickly as you would in other martial arts (in my opinion).


Maybe 3-4 months could be more though.  He is tight as f*** when giving out belts or stripes.   Should get your first stripe soon if you have a basic understanding.  I think i only got it becasue i roll with purple belts all the time he gave me my first.

Who do you train under?

My gym is Team Submission Factory in Sudbury, Ontario, Canada. We're affiliated with RGDA Jiu-Jitsu (Royler Gracie & David Adiv).

It's tough to get stripes at my gym as well. About six months to get your first if you're going regularly and improving at a good pace. Obviously I wish I had one by now, but it will make that first stripe all the better when I get it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Wednesday 17 November 2010, 09:51:43 PM
Hopefully i will get up to Canada at some point...have to pop in :)

On that note piseed off today with the MMA guys coming in trying to beast it and use no skill.  Im like 10 stone so its not hard for them to do.  You can hear them breathing heavy and there heart going like its the f***ing UFC.   Just sat in half guard for 5 min untill he gasses out. 

Nowt worse than an ego in the GYM.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 18 November 2010, 02:34:54 PM
Hopefully i will get up to Canada at some point...have to pop in :)

On that note piseed off today with the MMA guys coming in trying to beast it and use no skill.  Im like 10 stone so its not hard for them to do.  You can hear them breathing heavy and there heart going like its the f***ing UFC.   Just sat in half guard for 5 min untill he gasses out. 

Nowt worse than an ego in the GYM.

Forget Marcelo Garcia, Roger Gracie and Braulio Estima; N-O's Slim is going to win the next ADCC :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Thursday 18 November 2010, 05:43:51 PM
Hopefully i will get up to Canada at some point...have to pop in :)

On that note piseed off today with the MMA guys coming in trying to beast it and use no skill.  Im like 10 stone so its not hard for them to do.  You can hear them breathing heavy and there heart going like its the f***ing UFC.   Just sat in half guard for 5 min untill he gasses out. 

Nowt worse than an ego in the GYM.

Forget Marcelo Garcia, Roger Gracie and Braulio Estima; N-O's Slim is going to win the next ADCC :thup:

I triangled Royce Gracie....Think he let me though :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Thursday 18 November 2010, 06:51:03 PM
Some interesting fights this weekend.

Hughes v Penn III has potential. I'm personally looking forward to Lauzon v Sotiropoulos, and it's been good to watch the progress of Phil Davis.

I don't know what to make of Rampage v Machida. Rampage's performance against Rashad Evans was lackluster, and I can't help but feel that he's just going to get out-pointed again in a cagey and unentertaining fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 18 November 2010, 08:18:05 PM
This has been a s*** 6 months or so for the British UFC fighters like. All the main ones have lost fights and some of them have lost multiple ones. Hope 2011 is better. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 19 November 2010, 12:58:31 AM
Some interesting fights this weekend.

Hughes v Penn III has potential. I'm personally looking forward to Lauzon v Sotiropoulos, and it's been good to watch the progress of Phil Davis.

I don't know what to make of Rampage v Machida. Rampage's performance against Rashad Evans was lackluster, and I can't help but feel that he's just going to get out-pointed again in a cagey and unentertaining fight.

Apparently, Rampage has trained like a beast since the Evans fight. Add to the fact that Rampage hadn't fought for a long while before the Evans fight I'd say  Rampage could give Machida a good fight. He won't win though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Friday 19 November 2010, 09:51:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N78SuVHM9CM

These PRIDE pre-fight videos were absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 19 November 2010, 10:04:51 PM
^^^ Class!! Gotta love Cro Cop! Wild Boys!  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 20 November 2010, 02:13:52 PM
Some interesting fights this weekend.

Hughes v Penn III has potential. I'm personally looking forward to Lauzon v Sotiropoulos, and it's been good to watch the progress of Phil Davis.

I don't know what to make of Rampage v Machida. Rampage's performance against Rashad Evans was lackluster, and I can't help but feel that he's just going to get out-pointed again in a cagey and unentertaining fight.

Apparently, Rampage has trained like a beast since the Evans fight. Add to the fact that Rampage hadn't fought for a long while before the Evans fight I'd say  Rampage could give Machida a good fight. He won't win though.

Hope your right about Rampage training hard, Although Machida is one of my fav fighters!!

Hughes to beat Penn.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 21 November 2010, 01:30:21 PM
Controversial decision in the Rampage fight. The plus side is that Rampage and Machida both looked good.

Thought it was a really enjoyable event.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 21 November 2010, 07:00:33 PM
I scored it 29-28 for Rampage. This was an instance, I think, where Machida won the fight over the 15 minutes, but Rampage won it over three rounds, if that makes sense. It probably doesn't.  ;D
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 21 November 2010, 07:18:49 PM
Good event, that.

The main event was very close, it would be nice to see Machida being more aggressive like he was in the last round. I guess we can see some potential rematches with Rashad Evans after Shogun knocks him out in the first round.

Also, I really hope Penn wrecks Jon Fitch at UFC 127.

ps - Rampage coming out to the PRIDE theme  :smitten:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 21 November 2010, 09:13:24 PM
Glad rampage won but......One day we can have  Asian scoring.   Who won  the FIGHT not each round
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 22 November 2010, 02:45:49 AM
Oh god, please let Penn beat the crap out of Fitch!!

I fear that Fitch will take him like he does with everyone else though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 22 November 2010, 07:13:10 AM
Oh god, please let Penn beat the crap out of Fitch!!

I fear that Fitch will take him like he does with everyone else though.

Fitch won't get away with sleeping on top of BJ for three rounds like he does with everyone else though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 22 November 2010, 08:56:04 AM
I was really surprised at the end of the fight that rampage said Machida wooped his ass..

I also scored the fight 29-28 to page.

Good card, nice to see Paul Kelly get the win.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 22 November 2010, 08:57:32 AM
Rampage came away looking really classy after the fight. Hughes looks like he might be thinking about retiring.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: 1878 on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:15:44 AM
I didn't think the decision in the main event was controversial at all.

Bouts are scored by round.

Machida can't do literally almost nothing for the first two rounds then expect to get the decision. Even though his performance in the last round outstripped what Rampage had done in the previous two, it just doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:18:44 AM
Ok event.

Rampage won the fight, looked in good form.
Machida is a better fighter IMO, but was to passive in the first two rounds, it lost him the fight.

Unfortunately for Rampage, he needs to get he`s kicks going, he is far to predictable.


Bj V Hughes was a little disappointing for me. I was hoping for a epic fight, with good BJJ and wrestling.
But BJ was on fire from the moment he entered the ring, was really pumped up.
Hughes tend to be better and better as the fight goes, but he was not given that opportunity by BJ  :aww:

Also, i was impressed with Falcao, it was a boring fight. but he showed what he was made of.
I think the match up was pretty bad for him, as Harris is a hard fighter to go against. Weird style.
Hope he Falcao get a good match up next, and can show more of he`s skill. Think he can go far tbh.

*Edit* Did anyone think it was something strange in the first round? The clock say it was 8 sec left when Falcao had the submission, clock goes away, then 2 sec later the horn goes of and ref stops the match? Even the 10 sec warning clap goes of, and the match is stoped 4 sec after.
So Falcao should won by submission tbh.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TOie9lrUv-I/AAAAAAAAAaQ/zeYs5mIo930/s1600/2.gif)

Phil Davies, very good fighter, who`s next like? Wonderlock :pow:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 22 November 2010, 01:58:21 PM
Just finished watching this. I was 29-28 Rampage personally, Machida did nothing for 2 rounds tbh.

I was pretty impressed by Falcao as well tbh, I don't buy this s*** about impressing the crowds. His job is to win enough rounds, he did it. Pretty brave tactic, but round 1 & 2 were comfortable, and Harris barely attacked in round 3. I do understand that in the long run he needs to get over with crowds a bit to work his way up, but I'm sure that wasn't a priority tonight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 22 November 2010, 02:15:25 PM
Fitch couldn't finish a slice of pizza. BJ will need to either keep it standing or start practicing his rubber guard.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 22 November 2010, 02:24:18 PM
Anyone else watch Edson Barboza vs. Mike Lullo?

I wonder how Mike Lullo felt the next day?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 22 November 2010, 02:26:33 PM
Anyone else watch Edson Barboza vs. Mike Lullo?

I wonder how Mike Lullo felt the next day?

Haha, indeed.
Bet he had some pain in the leg  :lol:

Barboza looked dangerous man, excellent Muay Thay, those legkicks was powerfull!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 22 November 2010, 02:38:35 PM
I agree that you can't blame Falcoa for that 3rd round. He won the first two rounds decisively, which means it became Harris' prerogative to finish the fight in the third round. Falcoa got what he wanted; he won the fight and will be able to step back up rather quickly for another pay day.

As for Penn v Fitch, this fight on the weekend didn't answer any questions about Penn's fitness or motivation. He was quicker than an aging Hughes and caught him with a good shot, but that doesn't mean that he's now the "old BJ Penn." I expect Fitch to take him down and grind him into a decision loss, just like every other fight. BJ is way too small for a guy like Fitch.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:33:27 PM
Dudes, is it no one else who is upset, or wondering what happend at the end of round 1 in the Harris v Falcao match? Seriously, WTF :idiot2:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:39:06 PM
Didn't notice at the time, generally assume the on screen time is an estimate and that's why it disappears well before end of the round. When there are stoppages etc, the on screen time probably is way out of whack.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:39:57 PM
Fitch couldn't finish a slice of pizza. BJ will need to either keep it standing or start practicing his rubber guard.

 :lol:

Perfectly summed up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ED209 on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:43:34 PM
why are all the supposed MMA types who get in my gym utter mongs???  one of the idiots was wearing a full on bobble hat on the treadmill earlier and his mate one of them headband ear warmer things.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 22 November 2010, 10:02:27 PM
Just noticed CH5 are showing the the Main Event tonight. Is this the first UFC Main Event they've shown?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:21:02 AM
Didn't notice at the time, generally assume the on screen time is an estimate and that's why it disappears well before end of the round. When there are stoppages etc, the on screen time probably is way out of whack.

But, when the 10 sec warning goes, its suppose to be 10 sec left. Falcao went for the submission and timed it perfectly.
Also, read that people have checked the match, and first round was 6 sec short.
Pretty big f*** up by UFC tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:26:27 AM
Ah well I trust the horn. Thats pretty messed up then, no chance he would have survived.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:18:03 AM
Bilsping (sp?) Looked good last night although the bloke he thought was really a one trick pony. Was a good fight though, not a regular watcher but the few fights I have seen tended to just be rolling about on the floor.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:59:39 AM
Ah well I trust the horn. Thats pretty messed up then, no chance he would have survived.

Probably why the guy didn't let go at first, his mental clock was telling him there was still a few seconds left... or he might have just wanted to choke the guy out after the horn.

ESPN were a bit dodgy with the live coverage, missed a minute out of one round because the adverts over ran.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 12:05:12 PM
Just noticed CH5 are showing the the Main Event tonight. Is this the first UFC Main Event they've shown?

No.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 12:05:45 PM
Bilsping (sp?) Looked good last night although the bloke he thought was really a one trick pony. Was a good fight though, not a regular watcher but the few fights I have seen tended to just be rolling about on the floor.

Bisping fighting last night? Eh?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 12:07:00 PM
Decent event all in all, little dissapointed that the Penn Hugues fight didnt last longer and tbh Machida was the victor. Even Rampage said so. Rampage looked good though and was very classy at the end.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 12:19:41 PM
 :lol: He said that Machida kicked his ass man; what more do you want?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 12:29:16 PM
Pedro, do you honestly think Machida won that match?

It was a very close match, Rampage won first two rounds, on aggression and octagon control alone.
Last round Machida won, no doubt.

What Rampage say is irrelevant, he had the last round fresh in mind, and he was not in a state to judge that himself.
It was a fair win for Rampage, but i was not impressed and are sure Machida would have won with 2 more rounds.

I really wish it was a 5 round match tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 12:34:11 PM
Its the shitty 3 round thing that f***s everything up. So Rampage won over the 3 rounds but it could be argued that Machida won the last round by 2 points. In terms of it being a fight Machida won it clear as day; Rampage said he got his ass kicked and he did. I can see how Rampage was given the decision but Machida won it in terms of a fight. Main events should be five rounds title or not imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 12:46:55 PM
Its the shitty 3 round thing that f***s everything up. So Rampage won over the 3 rounds but it could be argued that Machida won the last round by 2 points. In terms of it being a fight Machida won it clear as day; Rampage said he got his ass kicked and he did. I can see how Rampage was given the decision but Machida won it in terms of a fight. Main events should be five rounds title or not imo.

I kind of agree with most of what you say. But there are a scoring system in UFC, and fighters should be aware of that.
Its implemented to give fighers a reason to fight each round, and not just dance around.

What pisses me off its that it was a very close fight, and had Machida been a little more aggressive in the first two rounds, he would have won it.
He was to scared of the KO power of Rampage IMO.
Should have bombed on with legkicks, and set the pace of the fight.
He did not, and got controled around the octagon by Rampage.

Last round was good, but to late for Machida.

Indeed, all main events, 5 rounds.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 01:13:27 PM
I think the rules are fine the way they are. Machida lost the fight and it was entirely his fault. He should have been more aggressive earlier in the fight or worked harder to end the fight in the third knowing he was down 2-0.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 01:16:34 PM
I think the rules are fine the way they are. Machida lost the fight and it was entirely his fault. He should have been more aggressive earlier in the fight or worked harder to end the fight in the third knowing he was down 2-0.

 :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 01:20:37 PM
Anyways, is everyone getting ready to masturbate in the glory of the excellence of GSP next month? Cant wait!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 01:24:23 PM
Ay, looking forward to it, he is a beast.     :ken:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 06:08:21 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 06:29:05 PM
I'm really looking forward to UFC 125; two of the most feared strikers in the lighter divisions in Aldo and Gomi should provide some top entertainment. Shame the main event between Maynard and Edgar will likely end in a dull Jon Fitch-esque decision.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 06:32:12 PM
Dan, you watched any of those UFCs yet? Probably too late to get the disk back off you now, like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 06:35:50 PM
I'm really looking forward to UFC 125; two of the most feared strikers in the lighter divisions in Aldo and Gomi should provide some top entertainment. Shame the main event between Maynard and Edgar will likely end in a dull Jon Fitch-esque decision.

Well forward to Aldo's UFC debut.  He'll be champion at 155lbs sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 06:51:11 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 06:59:20 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:04:59 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:05:15 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.

In round 3.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:05:33 PM
Dan, you watched any of those UFCs yet? Probably too late to get the disk back off you now, like.

Not yet man CALMDOWN
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:06:50 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.

In round 3.

This is going nowhere so I am going to trash talk you. f*** you, you punk ass bitch.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:11:36 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.

In round 3.

This is going nowhere so I am going to trash talk you. f*** you, you punk ass bitch.

Learn the rules paedro. n00b
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:16:09 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.

In round 3.

This is going nowhere so I am going to trash talk you. f*** you, you punk ass bitch.

Learn the rules paedro. n00b

f*** the rules; the Dragon ate his ass up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:31:50 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.

In round 3.

This is going nowhere so I am going to trash talk you. f*** you, you punk ass bitch.

Learn the rules paedro. n00b

f*** the rules; the Dragon ate his ass up.

You touch children.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:35:04 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.

In round 3.

This is going nowhere so I am going to trash talk you. f*** you, you punk ass bitch.

Learn the rules paedro. n00b

f*** the rules; the Dragon ate his ass up.

You touch children.

That is completely uncalled-for. Mods, I politely request that you issue a Mr Daniel SEMTEX Burnip with a ban.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:37:10 PM
Dan, you watched any of those UFCs yet? Probably too late to get the disk back off you now, like.

Not yet man CALMDOWN

 :frantic:

It was a subtle way of saying I'm going to miss you :( :weep: :weep: :weep:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:38:20 PM
Paedro man, fighters know the rules, the fight is judged round-by-round, rampage won that fight comfortably. Machida did nothing in 2 rounds. No-one wants your opinion on what the rules should be paedro, fact is that Rampage won under current UFC rules.

f*** off man did he, not comfortably anyways; like Rampage said, "he bloodied my nose, he kicked my ass".

in rnd 3

Meh, still whooped his aaaass.

In round 3.

This is going nowhere so I am going to trash talk you. f*** you, you punk ass bitch.

Learn the rules paedro. n00b

f*** the rules; the Dragon ate his ass up.

You touch children.

That is completely uncalled-for. Mods, I politely request that you issue a Mr SEMTEX with a ban.

HOW MAN, DATA PROTECTION ACT
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:39:44 PM
 :lol: , I have my statesmanlike reputation to think of as well you know?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:40:51 PM
There are some stellar fights on UFC 125, notwithstanding the terrible main event.

It's great watching Aldo, though I'm not sure that Grispi has a chance. Guida v Gomi should be a barn-burner. Chris Leben always puts on a show. Brown v Nunes has a lot of potential. Should be great.

UFC 124, on the other hand, doesn't seem very interesting aside from GSP v Koschek. I'm a big Dustin Hazelett fan though, and he's on the card.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:41:13 PM
I will remove my comment if you remove yours. We have a deal, yes?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:44:10 PM
I'll remove your anus
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Heneage on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:45:15 PM
You threatened that before. Empty threat.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:46:07 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:47:56 PM
Take it to PM you f***ing perverts.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:51:23 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 07:58:25 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.

Its going to covered in a curry s*** as well. Beef Madras. I dont think you're up to it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:01:54 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.

Its going to covered in a curry s*** as well. Beef Madras. I dont think you're up to it.

What were we talking about again?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:02:39 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.

Its going to covered in a curry s*** as well. Beef Madras. I dont think you're up to it.

What were we talking about again?

Machida kicking Rampages behind I think.  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:04:13 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.

Its going to covered in a curry s*** as well. Beef Madras. I dont think you're up to it.

What were we talking about again?

Machida kicking Rampages behind I think.  :lol:

Rampage MURDERED him FFS
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:06:28 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.

Its going to covered in a curry s*** as well. Beef Madras. I dont think you're up to it.

What were we talking about again?

Machida kicking Rampages behind I think.  :lol:

Rampage MURDERED him FFS

He lightly peppered him in the 1st & 2nd.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:07:06 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.

Its going to covered in a curry s*** as well. Beef Madras. I dont think you're up to it.

What were we talking about again?

Machida kicking Rampages behind I think.  :lol:

Rampage MURDERED him FFS

He lightly peppered him in the 1st & 2nd.

= WIN 2-1 victory
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 08:15:43 PM
I'll remove your anus

And I will shitty it all up real nice for you. Still wanna remove it?

With my teeth.

Its going to covered in a curry s*** as well. Beef Madras. I dont think you're up to it.

What were we talking about again?

Machida kicking Rampages behind I think.  :lol:

Rampage MURDERED him FFS

He lightly peppered him in the 1st & 2nd.

= WIN 2-1 victory

Not when his anus was REMOVED in the 3rd.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 23 November 2010, 11:14:04 PM
"The WEC's final 145-pound champ, Jose Aldo, who was officially awarded his new UFC title prior to this past Saturday's UFC 123 event, has suffered an undisclosed injury in training and has been forced to withdraw from a scheduled bout with top contender Josh Grispi"

Aldo out of 125. :(


Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Wednesday 24 November 2010, 03:55:52 AM
Wow..Gerald Harris has been cut from the UFC.

This is an absolute joke! 3-1 in the UFC, 2 Knockout of the nights (one of which is highlight reel material). Sure, he wasn't very impressive on Saturday but does that really warrant the release of a fighter who was on a good run? shocking decision by Zuffa.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 24 November 2010, 09:47:09 AM
Wow..Gerald Harris has been cut from the UFC.

This is an absolute joke! 3-1 in the UFC, 2 Knockout of the nights (one of which is highlight reel material). Sure, he wasn't very impressive on Saturday but does that really warrant the release of a fighter who was on a good run? shocking decision by Zuffa.

Well that's a bit messed up. More to it than meets the eye? Or just a pretty heavily stacked roster of talent already? Odd.

Also: http://insidefights.com/2010/11/24/ufc-in-talks-over-timekeeper-issue-in-harrisfalcao-fight/ Non-story really, just says 'oops' more than anything.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Thursday 25 November 2010, 08:11:25 PM
Is it Michael Bisping in the Skoda advert punching the car door? Seen it a few times and it's driving me mad.. Google is of no use whatsoever.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 25 November 2010, 08:11:58 PM
Is it Michael Bisping in the Skoda advert punching the car door? Seen it a few times and it's driving me mad.. Google is of no use whatsoever.

It is not. I have googled that before, and it led me to his twitter, in which he denied it!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Thursday 25 November 2010, 08:13:24 PM
Well that's disappointing... he's lying.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Saturday 27 November 2010, 03:55:44 PM
Jose Aldo out of 125 with a neck injury.  :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 27 November 2010, 04:00:42 PM
Dan, you watched any of those UFCs yet? Probably too late to get the disk back off you now, like.

Not yet man CALMDOWN

 :frantic:

It was a subtle way of saying I'm going to miss you :( :weep: :weep: :weep:

Copied them f***ers to my f***ing hard drive. Will drop that f***ing dvd through your f***ing door next time I'm f***ing driving (being driven) nearby.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 27 November 2010, 04:08:12 PM
Want the rest of the disks to copy and keep you entertained?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 27 November 2010, 04:16:24 PM
Nah it's ok, I'll just legally steam them online from ufc.com. :shifty: But these can provide entertainment in the meantime. Well.. maybe entertainment isn't the right word.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 27 November 2010, 04:24:29 PM
 :lol:

A history lesson. Some of the fights are decent, others are just long, long, boring bouts.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 7 December 2010, 11:19:17 AM
So did anyone watch the Strikeforce event this weekend?

Just saw it, and god, Ko-o-rama. Great card! :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 7 December 2010, 12:09:46 PM
So did anyone watch the Strikeforce event this weekend?

Just saw it, and god, Ko-o-rama. Great card! :lol:

Brutal.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 7 December 2010, 06:40:29 PM
So did anyone watch the Strikeforce event this weekend?

Just saw it, and god, Ko-o-rama. Great card! :lol:

It was a good card if you like KOs, but only because there were so many mismatches. Scott Smith vs Paul Daley was a joke. The bigger joke was that they tried to play Smith up as some sort of contender.

Best part of the night was the first round of Kyle vs Big Foot, though. Pretty exciting stuff.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Friday 10 December 2010, 06:40:02 PM
Absolutely epic weekend for fight fans.

K-1 World Grand Prix Final
UFC 124
Khan vs Maidana

For those interested - K-1 World GP Finals will start tomorrow at 7AM, I expect it to be the highlight of the weekend.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Friday 10 December 2010, 07:45:58 PM
So did anyone watch the Strikeforce event this weekend?

Just saw it, and god, Ko-o-rama. Great card! :lol:

The Semtex KO was possibly the biggest/best I've ever seen. Shame he didn't do that the Kosh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 11 December 2010, 12:08:01 AM
Think I'll download it!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 11 December 2010, 12:21:00 AM
What's World Combat League like on Extreme?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Saturday 11 December 2010, 12:36:50 AM
What's World Combat League like on Extreme?

I don't think I've ever seen it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 11 December 2010, 12:39:40 AM
Just seen the advert now, not sure its 'Cage Fighting', seems to be mat based kickboxing or something. Seems cheap as hell.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Saturday 11 December 2010, 10:54:27 AM
Absolutely epic weekend for fight fans.

K-1 World Grand Prix Final
UFC 124
Khan vs Maidana

For those interested - K-1 World GP Finals will start tomorrow at 7AM, I expect it to be the highlight of the weekend.

Class fight weekend. Is Overeem in the K-1? At least it may help cheer me up afer the match. Any predictions for the UFC?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 12 December 2010, 03:25:49 AM
Absolutely epic weekend for fight fans.

K-1 World Grand Prix Final
UFC 124
Khan vs Maidana

For those interested - K-1 World GP Finals will start tomorrow at 7AM, I expect it to be the highlight of the weekend.

Class fight weekend. Is Overeem in the K-1? At least it may help cheer me up afer the match. Any predictions for the UFC?

Overeem does both, MMA and K-1. He actually won the grand prix last night but I thought he had a easy route. In my opinion, Badr Hari would have won it easily but he's got too many problems outside of the ring. If Hari can control his temper and keep out of jail (lol) he can easily become one of the best strikers in the world.

As for UFC, I think GSP will stop Koscheck.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Sunday 12 December 2010, 02:24:42 PM
GSP was outstanding in his fight and has huge amounts of class in interviews.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 12 December 2010, 05:14:56 PM
A great display by GSP for sure. I wonder if he will have permanently humbled Koscheck after giving him such a beating.

The moment of the night for me was the sick BJJ technique by Mark Bocek on Dustin Hazelett. That's not an easy technique to hit, especially against a guy with Hazelett's credentials.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Sunday 12 December 2010, 06:39:28 PM
A great display by GSP for sure. I wonder if he will have permanently humbled Koscheck after giving him such a beating.

The moment of the night for me was the sick BJJ technique by Mark Bocek on Dustin Hazelett. That's not an easy technique to hit, especially against a guy with Hazelett's credentials.

I doubt Kosh will stay humble for long as he really needs to sell his future fights because we know a lot of lay and pray is coming from him in the future. Especially if he fights Hardy.

That was very high level BJJ as you pointed out both guys have really top class BJJ and I've never seen that in a fight before!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 13 December 2010, 02:12:08 AM
Disgrace that the main event got FOTN though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 13 December 2010, 04:47:34 AM
After a few of lacklustre events, I thought 124 really delivered in terms of good fights and some great finishes.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 13 December 2010, 11:45:13 AM
Indeed, very good event.
GSP is a machine, so complete fighter i almost make me sick  :lol:

Hope he goes up a weight class as they mentioned.
Now THAT whould be interesting!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 13 December 2010, 01:17:00 PM
Man, the UC MMA on Sky Sports is funny as f***. Bunch of Cockneys talking tough, without sounding like they know what they're talking about. Its great.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 13 December 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Indeed, very good event.
GSP is a machine, so complete fighter i almost make me sick  :lol:

Hope he goes up a weight class as they mentioned.
Now THAT whould be interesting!

It's a tough call for me. I'd hate to see GSP get dominated by Chael Sonnen, but it would likely happen. I think he's too small to go up.

I think the prerogative is on someone in the WW division to figure GSP out, rather than GSP dropping his title and moving up to a weight division that would potentially ruin his legacy.

I agree with the comment above about the FOTN award. It was silly to let the fans vote on it, when they won't be nearly as interested in the under-card fights.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 13 December 2010, 06:14:31 PM
It was unfortunate in terms of the fight that Koschecks eye swelled up so early; it would have been interesting to see how he would have performed in the later rounds with more than one eye. Might have been more difficult for GSP.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Monday 13 December 2010, 06:54:37 PM
I really miss the GSP of old who used to finish fighters.

When I compare him to other top fighters like Fedor, Shogun and Silva, I notice a distinct lack of ambition to finish fights decisively. The Jackson camp has always been criticised for their gameplans to win decisions rather than by knockout or submission; it's almost as if they're scared of losing and this in turn leads to very defensive tactics, which to their credit pays off.

Fedor, for example has only been in four decision victories in the past eight years (two against Big Nog, one against Cro Cop and one against a K-1 World Champion) and I guess that's why so many people have him as their favourite fighter, he always goes for the finish regardless of who he is facing. Even his only (proper) loss was against the best BJJ heavyweight in the world and he jumped head first into his guard!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Monday 13 December 2010, 11:37:08 PM
GSP and Jacksons fighters get stick for not finishing fights but in the last two GSP fights I can't fault him. Against Hardy it wasn't simple lay and pray, he was working for submissions and would have had one if the armbar wasn't on at a bad angle.  The Kos fight probably should have been a stoppage in my opinion, the dude couldn't see anything out of that eye.

The FON in a Canada was only going to one guy/fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Tuesday 14 December 2010, 09:46:34 AM
The Mac Danzig knockout was pretty special, and Jim Miller is starting to look like a good shout for a title shot now.  I wonder if Miller could step up and face the winner of Edgar/Maynard though, who else is there between him and a title shot?

Looking forward to seeing Guida fight next PPV, should be a goodun!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 14 December 2010, 10:04:53 AM
Danzig's K.O was a light version of Daleys K.O a week ago. Still good though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Tuesday 14 December 2010, 11:54:36 AM
Apparently Guida loves Newcastle Brown Ale. Thought I'd share that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 14 December 2010, 02:12:44 PM
As much as I like Guida, Takanori Gomi is one of my favourite LW fighters of all time and I really hope he wins at 125.

Check out this fan-made trailer (which evidently is better than most official UFC promo videos):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDZrH_6heI0&translated=1
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Thursday 16 December 2010, 01:19:33 PM
Danzig's K.O was a light version of Daleys K.O a week ago. Still good though.

Didn't realise Daley was fighting again now, might have to have a scout for that fight!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 16 December 2010, 02:09:14 PM
Search up Strikeforce Henderson vs Babalu 2. The whole event is worth scouting.  O0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Thursday 16 December 2010, 08:05:33 PM
The Mac Danzig knockout was pretty special, and Jim Miller is starting to look like a good shout for a title shot now.  I wonder if Miller could step up and face the winner of Edgar/Maynard though, who else is there between him and a title shot?

Looking forward to seeing Guida fight next PPV, should be a goodun!

The winner of the Ben Henderson v Anthony Pettis bout on WEC tonight gets the winner of Edgar v Maynard next....which is ridiculous by the way.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Thursday 16 December 2010, 11:18:13 PM
I know very little about the WEC, are either of those two actually worthy of a title shot?

Also, just watched the Strikeforce ppv as recommended, some amazing knockouts!  I've heard good things about Babalu but Henderson absolutely dominated him!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Thursday 16 December 2010, 11:21:08 PM
They have to give the WEC guys something to make it seem like the merger wasn't just about Aldo/Faber and getting the word "cage" out of the title.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Friday 17 December 2010, 12:08:49 AM
It's a great shame we're losing WEC as they always put on exciting cards, I hope it carries over into the UFC.

The featherweight division is probably my second favourite weight class, just tons of talented and exciting fighters in America and Japan at that weight. Plus, some of the 155 guys will start considering dropping down, and vice versa.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 17 December 2010, 03:59:58 AM
The WEC lightweights aren't as good as UFC, IMO. No way do Henderson or Pettis deserve a UFC title shot.

The lighter weight classes are mint though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Friday 17 December 2010, 09:37:43 AM
I agree, lighter weights make for exciting fights. Don't know why but it does. I'm happy the UFC absorbed them as it should cut down the number of cards that don't have any no.1 contender or title fights. I'm not saying all cards need that or other fights are boring but I like a title fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Friday 17 December 2010, 09:42:40 AM
Wow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv62134BiVk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 17 December 2010, 06:01:10 PM
That pettis kick was f***ing ridiculous. Made it to espn sports center
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 17 December 2010, 06:41:54 PM
What makes that kick all the more spectacular was that he pulled it off in the fifth round of a title fight against the champion when he was arguably on his way to losing the fight by decision. He needed to do something and he went for the craziest thing in this history of MMA...and pulled it off.

You couldn't have written a better ending to the WEC.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Friday 17 December 2010, 07:23:22 PM
What makes that kick all the more spectacular was that he pulled it off in the fifth round of a title fight against the champion when he was arguably on his way to losing the fight by decision. He needed to do something and he went for the craziest thing in this history of MMA...and pulled it off.

You couldn't have written a better ending to the WEC.

This.

Although saying it's the craziest is a bold statement really.

And the more ESPN get into mma the better for uk viewers so long may it continue.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 17 December 2010, 07:55:22 PM
I agree it's probably not the craziest thing ever, but it was a thing of beauty, especially under the circumstances.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Friday 17 December 2010, 07:59:07 PM
I think it's pretty freaking close. And I could see people could get carried away in the moment. Just after that kick I'd have sworn White was black and the football is the worst thing ever! I'd have agreed to anything right then!

Actually just after Hathaway hit Sanchez with that knee I swear I saw the answers to life.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 18 December 2010, 02:22:42 PM
Agreed. It's definitely up there.

Although I think Russow's hammerfist of death against Todd Duffee is my favourite moment of the year:

(http://i55.tinypic.com/5wifxj.gif)

 :cheesy:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 18 December 2010, 09:44:06 PM
Did you know Todd Duffee has been releaded by the UFC??? ... well I didnt.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Saturday 18 December 2010, 09:55:22 PM
Did you know Todd Duffee has been releaded by the UFC??? ... well I didnt.

Aye. They reckon it's because of his attitude. The UFC doesn't need him as much as he needs them.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 18 December 2010, 10:06:07 PM
Did you know Todd Duffee has been releaded by the UFC??? ... well I didnt.

Aye. They reckon it's because of his attitude. The UFC doesn't need him as much as he needs them.

Heard he was supposed to be a cock.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 18 December 2010, 10:07:32 PM
Did you know Todd Duffee has been releaded by the UFC??? ... well I didnt.

Aye. They reckon it's because of his attitude. The UFC doesn't need him as much as he needs them.

Heard he was supposed to be a cock.

Which makes Russow's hammerfist of doom even more pleasing  O0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Saturday 18 December 2010, 11:10:52 PM
Seems like the UFC did the right thing as all of us fans think he's a c**t. Although I'd not tell him, he's a freakish athlete.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 18 December 2010, 11:14:09 PM
Seems like the UFC did the right thing as all of us fans think he's a c**t. Although I'd not tell him, he's a freakish athlete.

Nah hed beat on you for 14 mins then you'd knock him out!! :snod:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Thursday 30 December 2010, 03:30:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Z7aVb49p8

 :mackems:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 30 December 2010, 10:23:22 AM
^^ Brilliant!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 31 December 2010, 03:23:11 PM
Duffee got knocked out in 19 seconds last night by Overeem. Remember how promising this guy looked once upon a time?

Anyway, some great fights tomorrow night with the UFC. I hope that Edgar gets past Maynard, but I don't see it. Edgar will likely lose and drop a weight class, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 31 December 2010, 03:49:36 PM
Hard to predict the Edgar fight, but one thing is for certain - it will go the distance.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 31 December 2010, 04:25:35 PM
REDEMPTION!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 1 January 2011, 03:00:05 PM
Duffee got knocked out in 19 seconds last night by Overeem. Remember how promising this guy looked once upon a time?

Anyway, some great fights tomorrow night with the UFC. I hope that Edgar gets past Maynard, but I don't see it. Edgar will likely lose and drop a weight class, imo.

I watched all 7 hours of Dynamite 2010!! last night, epic stuff. The Aoki K1/MMA special rules match is a MUST watch.

As for 125, I hope Gomi wins. He'll either KO Guida or get wrestled to death.

Hard to predict the Edgar fight, but one thing is for certain - it will go the distance.

:lol: Yes
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 2 January 2011, 06:11:45 PM
Great night of fights. I'm thrilled for Clay Guida. I love that guy.

I scored the main event as a draw, but I'm puzzled that one judge gave it to Edgar outright.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 2 January 2011, 07:08:05 PM
Annother example of why you should judge it on the fight as a whole....not rounds
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 2 January 2011, 08:24:25 PM
Sad to see Gomi get beat like that, the guy really needs to have a proper training camp.

Annother example of why you should judge it on the fight as a whole....not rounds

Did you see your boy Aoki a few days ago? it was hilarious.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 2 January 2011, 10:17:16 PM
Aye its even worse that he was amazing in the standing round...then gets down like that :)

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Sunday 2 January 2011, 10:25:32 PM
Really good card I thought, glad to see Guida win!

Surprised by the Main Event result, but glad to see Maynard not come away with the belt, never liked the guy!

Was surprised to see Leben get beaten so convincingly, but I must admit I knew nothing of Stann before the fight!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 3 January 2011, 01:57:40 AM
Duffee got knocked out in 19 seconds last night by Overeem. Remember how promising this guy looked once upon a time?

Anyway, some great fights tomorrow night with the UFC. I hope that Edgar gets past Maynard, but I don't see it. Edgar will likely lose and drop a weight class, imo.

I watched all 7 hours of Dynamite 2010!! last night, epic stuff. The Aoki K1/MMA special rules match is a MUST watch.

As for 125, I hope Gomi wins. He'll either KO Guida or get wrestled to death.

Hard to predict the Edgar fight, but one thing is for certain - it will go the distance.

:lol: Yes

Got my prediction right, but f***ing hell I though I had jinxed it for a couple of minutes there. :lol:

Really glad Maynard didn't get the win. Edgar will take him next time if he doesn't get caught like that again. Great show of heart, great chin, great cardio. Real life Rocky Balboa.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Tuesday 4 January 2011, 03:33:36 PM
Brilliant card :) The last fight was epic, such a shame it ended as a draw.

Thought Leben was classy in defeat, suprised to see him beaten so easily though, also 126 looks canny, looking forward to seeing Forrest back in action.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 4 January 2011, 06:34:52 PM
After watching it again, im even more happy that Maynard didn't get the win. After the fight were over, Edgar went over to Maynard to shake his hand after a brilliant performance, but Maynard turned away, and raised his hand in victory to somehow influence the judges. On top of that, the way he spoke after the fight and in the post-fight conferance about how he deserved  the win. Hope he never gets the belt, dickhead.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 4 January 2011, 07:52:28 PM
Just watched it now, brilliant!

Guida is just fun to watch  :smitten:

Was sooo happy Edgar kept the belt, what a chin and spirit!! :clap:
Love that guy.
Little disappointed with a draw, but most likely correct.
Looking forward to the rematch!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 4 January 2011, 08:59:39 PM
Guida is class like; love his all round attitude, his drum solos and the fact that he lives on a bus!  :lol:

Maynard proper gassed himself after that first round and basically offered next to nothing for the rest of the fight, credit to Edgar though it would have been so easy for him to give up but he showed the true heart of a champion to pull through. TBF the ref deserves credit too because he could have easily stopped it in the 1st.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Saturday 8 January 2011, 09:04:45 PM
Aye its even worse that he was amazing in the standing round...then gets down like that :)
Amazing? No. Glad he got knocked the f*** out after that display of clowning.


Sad to see Gomi get beat like that, the guy really needs to have a proper training camp.
He's got one, actually.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Saturday 8 January 2011, 09:57:51 PM
Aye its even worse that he was amazing in the standing round...then gets down like that :)
Amazing? No. Glad he got knocked the f*** out after that display of clowning.


Sad to see Gomi get beat like that, the guy really needs to have a proper training camp.
He's got one, actually.



I'm uncertain what you mean by "He's got one" as he literally does own his own gym (Rascal Gym) but it's far from the standard that is expected of him.

Gomi trains in his own gym with his students, this type of training isn't sufficient when it comes to fighting on a big stage like the UFC. It's not comparable to the type of training you get at other camps such as AKA, Jackson Submission Fighting or Xtreme Couture, places that are filled with top trainers and top fighters who push you to the limit. He's worked out at AKA and Xtreme Couture in the past, but only briefly. He really needs to push himself if he wants to regain the form he had during his amazing run in PRIDE.
He's one of my favourite fighters but MMA is evolving and Gomi is not.

Fingers crossed that Omigawa and Kid can do well in the following months, though the former has a difficult first opponent in Chad Mendes but the dream fight I want to see is:

(http://www.mmahq.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/aldo-400x300.jpg)
Jose Aldo

VS.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mmafighting.com/media/2010/12/hiokibeatssandro.jpg)
Hatsu Hioki
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 10 January 2011, 07:58:01 PM
I'm sorry but owning and training in a gym is completely different from a 'fight camp', there's this notion in MMA that you need to train in a gym full of top 10 fighters, but, this isn't true at all. Evan at a place like Jacksons and Xtreme Couture all the fighters in that stable don't train together very often aside from the ocasional sparring session and when they're rolling some jits. I refuse to believe Gomi doesn't know how to set up a proper fight camp for a big fight.

What it comes down to is his heart, clearly, because you're talking about people needing to 'push' him to regain previous form, no ammount of sparring partners or coaches are going to give that.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 10 January 2011, 08:01:17 PM
I am so looking forward to Strikeforce Grand Prix   :frantic:
f***ing immense card.
Starts 12 feb.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs790.ash1/168012_485611868228_61345743228_6066777_3227764_n.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Monday 10 January 2011, 08:17:41 PM
That bracket on the left is f***ing mad, really. I'll hoy some money on Sergie though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 10 January 2011, 10:59:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct101llYcZU&feature=player_embedded


Two fighters named for TUF!     They look sick!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Tuesday 11 January 2011, 12:31:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct101llYcZU&feature=player_embedded


Two fighters named for TUF!     They look sick!
One of these is you, right?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Tuesday 11 January 2011, 07:59:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct101llYcZU&feature=player_embedded


Two fighters named for TUF!     They look sick!
One of these is you, right?

Could only dream of having their BJJ skills
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 11 January 2011, 03:31:35 PM
I'm really looking forward to Arlovski vs Kharitonov out of the opening bouts, two really good strikers with Sambo backgrounds.

I think most fans are hoping to see the highly anticipated bout between Fedor and Overeem, of course I'll be rooting for Fedor but the Reem has been tearing through people as of late. I also reckon Barnett will make it to the finals.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 12 January 2011, 09:15:39 PM
Not sure if its been mentioned but Brock Lesnar and JDS are the coaches for the new season of TUF.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Wednesday 12 January 2011, 10:23:59 PM
Strange choices but one things for sure, this season will definitely get good ratings. Cain's long term injury must have resulted in a number of changes for the UFC HW division.

Mir vs Lesnar would have been better as Mir is obsessed with beating Lesnar and they really hate each other. On the other hand, I guess they don't want to keep JDS out of the spotlight and this is a way of building him up for his eventual title shot against Cain. Oh, and it will apparently be Welterweights this season.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Wednesday 12 January 2011, 11:14:05 PM
There's been a lot of bad blood in the past 2-3 TUF's (GSP Koscheck was reasonably tame mind), so it makes sense to have a pair with less of a rivalry really.

Brock will bring in a hell of a lot of viewers so from Dana's perspective he's an obvious choice as a heavyweight coach, but other than JDS, I can't really think of anyone else in the heavyweight division that I could go opposite him.  As said above, Lesnar and Mir despise each other, so I'd have been amazed if they lasted the whole season without them decking each other! 

With Velasquez and Carwin injured, the only other real heavyweight options (discounting Mir) that I can think of would be Nelson and Big Nog. 

I'd like to think it has the promise to be a great season with those two as coaches, but Lesnar's relatively "new" to MMA and JDS is a very quiet person so it could be interesting!

Does anyone know what JDS' english is like?  I seem to remember he was ok with it.

Also, I've just seen online that Mir will fight Nelson at UFC 130, just imagine if they were the TUF coaches haha.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Sunday 16 January 2011, 08:24:54 PM
Some of the fanmade videos are actually better than the official stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HBIavLiCxM

I refuse to believe Gomi doesn't know how to set up a proper fight camp for a big fight.

What's interesting this time round is that there hasn't been much coverage following his defeat. When he lost to Florian, he came out and mentioned all his flaws and what he must do to succeed in America. Perhaps he's taking a long break and we'll hear from him in the following months.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 16 January 2011, 09:37:10 PM
Some of the fanmade videos are actually better than the official stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HBIavLiCxM

I refuse to believe Gomi doesn't know how to set up a proper fight camp for a big fight.

What's interesting this time round is that there hasn't been much coverage following his defeat. When he lost to Florian, he came out and mentioned all his flaws and what he must do to succeed in America. Perhaps he's taking a long break and we'll hear from him in the following months.

It's always been a fickle sport, maybe nobody is letting him talk.

I hear ya' on the fanmade videos, UFC have made more effort as of late though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 18 January 2011, 01:12:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjOiPkueto&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: bywater on Tuesday 18 January 2011, 03:46:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjOiPkueto&feature=player_embedded#!

:lol:

Some of the comments are great too:

This story really touched me. As a young boy, I lost my penis in a mexican cock fighting accident. Because I now have a metal penis, I'm no longer allowed to work in the porn industry. I hope his appeal goes through!  :lol:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 6 February 2011, 01:24:12 AM
Jon Bones Jones fighting tonight.  :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 6 February 2011, 02:42:57 AM
Liverpudlian being a c*** as per usual
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 6 February 2011, 02:46:08 AM
Liverpudlian being a c*** as per usual

Yeah, that was not cool.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 6 February 2011, 03:49:59 AM
Some great ground technique here like  :yikes:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 6 February 2011, 04:24:46 AM
Effortless, didn't even get out of 2nd gear.

Legend.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 6 February 2011, 04:27:01 AM
Shogun vs jones  :kasper: can't fuking wait.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 6 February 2011, 06:36:10 AM
Main event finisher  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Sunday 6 February 2011, 02:57:22 PM
Silva is incredible, never seen anything like him.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 6 February 2011, 07:38:28 PM
Silva had me screaming "oh my god, what just happened..."

Great fighter. It's funny, as for a brief moment I wondered if Belfort was going to give him a rough contest then boom. It's over.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 7 February 2011, 01:02:58 AM
Was it a lack of concentration or was he just too fast for him?

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Monday 7 February 2011, 01:08:00 AM
Kick to the face. Man. I thought Silva was going to fanny about like the last 2-3 fights he's had, but bang!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 7 February 2011, 07:06:24 AM
Silva is always slow in the beginning though. I always thought he would win, but not in that fashion.

(http://imgboot.com/images/vegita2011/fc126silkobel.gif)
 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 7 February 2011, 09:45:38 AM
Silva is the man.. Best p4p in the world.

Forest looked really rusty thought it could of went either way.

Jones looked great too, Fighting Shogun is a whole different story though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 7 February 2011, 09:52:02 AM
No way is Jones winning against Shogun if the Shogun that faced Machida turn up. Jones climb to the title shot has been against wrestlers, which are poor match ups for their sake. It remains to be seen if he can handle Shoguns striking and BJJ.

The thing im worried about is that he is coming back from yet another long injury. Last time he did that, he had a couple of horrible matches against Griffin and Coleman.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 7 February 2011, 12:31:56 PM
No way is Jones winning against Shogun if the Shogun that faced Machida turn up. Jones climb to the title shot has been against wrestlers, which are poor match ups for their sake. It remains to be seen if he can handle Shoguns striking and BJJ.

The thing im worried about is that he is coming back from yet another long injury. Last time he did that, he had a couple of horrible matches against Griffin and Coleman.

He fought Bonnar who wil stand & trade all day..

I think it will be a close fight but I can't see anyone beating Jones at L-heavyweight.

He's huge, if he does go on to win the title & defend it a few times I could definitely see him stepping up to heavyweight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Monday 7 February 2011, 12:39:32 PM
Jones will win, he's amazing.

I think we should buy him to replace Carroll.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 7 February 2011, 03:15:37 PM
Jones has come in early favorite by the bookies, which I don't agree with. Everyone thought that Machida was unbeatable until Shogun walked in the cage with him. Jones hasn't been tested yet and it remains to be seen how he'll deal with adversity.

It makes all the more for an interesting title fight, though. It'll be interesting to see how it goes down.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Beren on Monday 7 February 2011, 07:54:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93uyDLhTQYQ
 
What a bullshitter :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Monday 7 February 2011, 08:07:56 PM
It's true, Seagal taught him that kick.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 7 February 2011, 08:23:41 PM
UFC 126 was very good!

Jon Jones is a very exiting fighter, no doubt!
But i cant help to believe he is a little overhyped at the moment.
 
He will get a fair chance for the belt against Shogun Rua.
Shogun have not fought for almost a year when this fight is scheduled, so we have to wait and see what Shogun Rua turns up...

I will give Shogun Rua my vote of confidence now. He have a lot of experience and if he manage to keep it standing, its he`s to take.
I am afraid this match came a little bit to early for Jones.

But time will show, i will not be surprised if Jones go on a win this, and be as dominant as Anderson Silva in he`s weight class.

Anderson Silva, what can you say, who can beat him atm? Fighting machine....
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 7 February 2011, 08:36:25 PM
No way is Jones winning against Shogun if the Shogun that faced Machida turn up. Jones climb to the title shot has been against wrestlers, which are poor match ups for their sake. It remains to be seen if he can handle Shoguns striking and BJJ.

The thing im worried about is that he is coming back from yet another long injury. Last time he did that, he had a couple of horrible matches against Griffin and Coleman.

He fought Bonnar who wil stand & trade all day..

I think it will be a close fight but I can't see anyone beating Jones at L-heavyweight.

He's huge, if he does go on to win the title & defend it a few times I could definitely see him stepping up to heavyweight.


Shogun Rua have no problem with bigger fighters, he have shown this before.
He KO`d Alistair Overeem (HUGE AS FOOK) twice, Coleman and the Iceman.

Size does no really matter, technique, movement, and cardio will win you the fights.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Monday 7 February 2011, 09:41:55 PM
(http://i.min.us/icikxI.gif)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 7 February 2011, 09:43:18 PM
(http://i.min.us/icikxI.gif)

f***ing hell man    :nope:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: colinmk on Monday 7 February 2011, 10:06:25 PM
Don't get how that kick knocked hm out, did his heel connect? Looked like he connected more with the toe area to me?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Monday 7 February 2011, 10:19:10 PM
Don't get how that kick knocked hm out, did his heel connect? Looked like he connected more with the toe area to me?

Connected with the ball of his foot, nearly took Belfort's head off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVd-HjR0oP0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: colinmk on Monday 7 February 2011, 10:25:59 PM
Don't get how that kick knocked hm out, did his heel connect? Looked like he connected more with the toe area to me?

Connected with the ball of his foot, nearly took Belfort's head off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVd-HjR0oP0

So he did! Must have some f***ing solid feet. I do a bit of Muay Thai and we have never been taught that one, wonder where it comes from or if he just made it up. Don't really follow UFC, my mate was telling me to aquire the earlier ones though before the weight divisions.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 7 February 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Don't get how that kick knocked hm out, did his heel connect? Looked like he connected more with the toe area to me?

Connected with the ball of his foot, nearly took Belfort's head off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVd-HjR0oP0

So he did! Must have some f***ing solid feet. I do a bit of Muay Thai and we have never been taught that one, wonder where it comes from or if he just made it up. Don't really follow UFC, my mate was telling me to aquire the earlier ones though before the weight divisions.

I am not shiting you, but it was no other than Steven Seagal who taught him that   ;D

http://www.mmaconvert.com/2011/02/06/steven-seagal-taught-anderson-silva-the-front-kick-that-he-knocked-vitor-belfort-out-with-at-ufc-126/
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 8 February 2011, 01:23:29 AM
No way is Jones winning against Shogun if the Shogun that faced Machida turn up. Jones climb to the title shot has been against wrestlers, which are poor match ups for their sake. It remains to be seen if he can handle Shoguns striking and BJJ.

The thing im worried about is that he is coming back from yet another long injury. Last time he did that, he had a couple of horrible matches against Griffin and Coleman.

He fought Bonnar who wil stand & trade all day..

I think it will be a close fight but I can't see anyone beating Jones at L-heavyweight.

He's huge, if he does go on to win the title & defend it a few times I could definitely see him stepping up to heavyweight.


Shogun Rua have no problem with bigger fighters, he have shown this before.
He KO`d Alistair Overeem (HUGE AS FOOK) twice, Coleman and the Iceman.

Size does no really matter, technique, movement, and cardio will win you the fights.


It's the cardio bit that worries me regarding Shogun. If he comes to this fight in shape, he will beat Jones.

Shogun is a far superior striker to Bonnar. Jones doesn't really have a good standup game, at least considering his long reach advantage. The few "strikers" he has faced, he has taken down and gone back to his wrestling. He might get Shogun to the ground, but I can't see him holding him down for long periods.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Tuesday 8 February 2011, 03:44:35 PM
Decent card I suppose although I wish someone would batter the f*** out of Silva, sick of the sight of him now :lol:

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 8 February 2011, 03:48:30 PM
You're fighting a losing battle if you're supporting Silva's opponents like.

He won't be losing anytime soon.

Really good card with some big old fights imo. Cerrone impressed be on the prelims like. He just seemed so in control on the ground. Maybe it was just that the scouse fellah was s****, who knows.

Bones was good value too. Outclassed Bader, surprised me tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 09:57:57 AM
No way is Jones winning against Shogun if the Shogun that faced Machida turn up. Jones climb to the title shot has been against wrestlers, which are poor match ups for their sake. It remains to be seen if he can handle Shoguns striking and BJJ.

The thing im worried about is that he is coming back from yet another long injury. Last time he did that, he had a couple of horrible matches against Griffin and Coleman.

He fought Bonnar who wil stand & trade all day..

I think it will be a close fight but I can't see anyone beating Jones at L-heavyweight.

He's huge, if he does go on to win the title & defend it a few times I could definitely see him stepping up to heavyweight.


Shogun Rua have no problem with bigger fighters, he have shown this before.
He KO`d Alistair Overeem (HUGE AS FOOK) twice, Coleman and the Iceman.

Size does no really matter, technique, movement, and cardio will win you the fights.


Of-course size matters, Well more so strength.

Overeem is a big bloke but his ground game is questionable.

coleman & chuck have no size advantage over shogun.

The thing is Jones has great wrestling along with his size he will throw most LHW around as he pleases.

Like I said I think it will be a good fight which could go either way but my money will be on Jones.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 11:40:04 AM
I thought the card was brilliant. Would have liked a little more from the Griffin/Franklin fight but all is forgotten after the main event.

Also the WWE style announcement of Jones' title shot was a bit funny. And unfortunately I think he has a real chance. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 12:43:29 PM
No way is Jones winning against Shogun if the Shogun that faced Machida turn up. Jones climb to the title shot has been against wrestlers, which are poor match ups for their sake. It remains to be seen if he can handle Shoguns striking and BJJ.

The thing im worried about is that he is coming back from yet another long injury. Last time he did that, he had a couple of horrible matches against Griffin and Coleman.

He fought Bonnar who wil stand & trade all day..

I think it will be a close fight but I can't see anyone beating Jones at L-heavyweight.

He's huge, if he does go on to win the title & defend it a few times I could definitely see him stepping up to heavyweight.


Shogun Rua have no problem with bigger fighters, he have shown this before.
He KO`d Alistair Overeem (HUGE AS FOOK) twice, Coleman and the Iceman.

Size does no really matter, technique, movement, and cardio will win you the fights.


Of-course size matters, Well more so strength.

Overeem is a big bloke but his ground game is questionable.

coleman & chuck have no size advantage over shogun.

The thing is Jones has great wrestling along with his size he will throw most LHW around as he pleases.

Like I said I think it will be a good fight which could go either way but my money will be on Jones.

Ok, size matter, but not as much as the attributes i mentioned...

Jones is a very good wrestler, one of the best in UFC now i think.
But don`t underestimate Shoguns BJJ. Not only does Jones have to be carefull of Shogun`s standing game, but
also Shoguns ground game. Shogun is so much better standing, and can focus more on takedown defence.

I will wait to make a judgment until nearer the event.
Try to get a feel on how Shogun does at trining, how motivated he is.
He do not have a good record comming back from injuries/breaks.


Cant wait for this weekend, Strikeforce GP is starting, Fedor vs Silva.
The strikeforce GP is the best HW div in the sports at the moment imo.

WAR FEDOR!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 01:20:26 PM
Decent card I suppose although I wish someone would batter the f*** out of Silva, sick of the sight of him now :lol:

Sad that there's still so much Silva hate.

The guy is an absolute phenom and we may never see the likes of him again, Dana f***ed up by putting a load of guys in the ring with him that were absolutely f***ing terrified of engaging him and as a result we got some pathetic bouts. The only way those fights would have been interesting is if Silva had gone charging in recklessly trying to finish the fight, which would have been stupid of him. Sure the dancing s*** was a stupid move on his part, but I think he just got p*ssed off trying to fight guys who were clearly there to just lose on points and collect their paycheck.

Meanwhile GSP has spent the last 3 years lying on top of people and everyone loves him.

Hope they move him to LHW full time or else let him cut weight to fight GSP, he'll be gone in a few years and it'd be a shame to not get the absolute best matches available from the little time he has left.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 04:06:48 PM
Decent card I suppose although I wish someone would batter the f*** out of Silva, sick of the sight of him now :lol:

Sad that there's still so much Silva hate.

The guy is an absolute phenom and we may never see the likes of him again, Dana f***ed up by putting a load of guys in the ring with him that were absolutely f***ing terrified of engaging him and as a result we got some pathetic bouts. The only way those fights would have been interesting is if Silva had gone charging in recklessly trying to finish the fight, which would have been stupid of him. Sure the dancing s*** was a stupid move on his part, but I think he just got p*ssed off trying to fight guys who were clearly there to just lose on points and collect their paycheck.

Meanwhile GSP has spent the last 3 years lying on top of people and everyone loves him.

Hope they move him to LHW full time or else let him cut weight to fight GSP, he'll be gone in a few years and it'd be a shame to not get the absolute best matches available from the little time he has left.

You're just as bad with that comment, Shakkers! Ask Josh Koscheck or John Fitch how their eye's felt after GSP "layed on them" for five rounds:

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/610305/11_st-pierre_koscheck19.jpg)

(http://cdn.cagepotato.com/www/sites/default/files/method%3Dget%26s%3Djosh-koscheck-eye.jpg)

(http://cdn.cagepotato.com/www/sites/default/files/JonFitch_0133.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 04:37:49 PM
No way is Jones winning against Shogun if the Shogun that faced Machida turn up. Jones climb to the title shot has been against wrestlers, which are poor match ups for their sake. It remains to be seen if he can handle Shoguns striking and BJJ.

The thing im worried about is that he is coming back from yet another long injury. Last time he did that, he had a couple of horrible matches against Griffin and Coleman.

He fought Bonnar who wil stand & trade all day..

I think it will be a close fight but I can't see anyone beating Jones at L-heavyweight.

He's huge, if he does go on to win the title & defend it a few times I could definitely see him stepping up to heavyweight.


Shogun Rua have no problem with bigger fighters, he have shown this before.
He KO`d Alistair Overeem (HUGE AS FOOK) twice, Coleman and the Iceman.

Size does no really matter, technique, movement, and cardio will win you the fights.


Of-course size matters, Well more so strength.

Overeem is a big bloke but his ground game is questionable.

coleman & chuck have no size advantage over shogun.

The thing is Jones has great wrestling along with his size he will throw most LHW around as he pleases.

Like I said I think it will be a good fight which could go either way but my money will be on Jones.

Ok, size matter, but not as much as the attributes i mentioned...

Jones is a very good wrestler, one of the best in UFC now i think.
But don`t underestimate Shoguns BJJ. Not only does Jones have to be carefull of Shogun`s standing game, but
also Shoguns ground game. Shogun is so much better standing, and can focus more on takedown defence.

I will wait to make a judgment until nearer the event.
Try to get a feel on how Shogun does at trining, how motivated he is.
He do not have a good record comming back from injuries/breaks.


Cant wait for this weekend, Strikeforce GP is starting, Fedor vs Silva.
The strikeforce GP is the best HW div in the sports at the moment imo.

WAR FEDOR!

 :thup:

Can't see Silva causing Fedor to many problems..

Will this be shown in the UK anywhere??
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 09:05:12 PM
I don't think the Strikeforce GP will be in tv in the uk live but it may appear later on some dodgy sky channel.

Also I don't think it's the best heavyweights in the world. AO and Fedor.... Not as deep as the UFC.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 09:56:11 PM
I don't think the Strikeforce GP will be in tv in the uk live but it may appear later on some dodgy sky channel.

Also I don't think it's the best heavyweights in the world. AO and Fedor.... Not as deep as the UFC.

I respect that you don't think that, but come on  :lol:

Its just the opposite of what you say, UFC have the best from light heavyweight and down, but Strikeforce is king of HW at the moment.
Dept of UFC HW? Please elaborate...  Dept is equal at best.

The HW they have who are good IMO is:
Cain V.
Big Nog
JDS

Carwin severely lacks cardio. Injured, what shape will he come back in.
Lesnar, where do we have him, will he come back? Is he 100% focused. He need to change training camp. Have all it take to be the best, but need to train technique.
Cro Cop, Way past it as far as i can see. Last payday.
Mir, at best, he is good. I think he is pretty much done. (IMO)

Strikforce.

Overeem, next big thing. Beast. He is what Lesnar can become.
Fedor. Legend.
Arlovski, exiting fighter, to bad he have a soft chin.
Bigfoot - Monster, good BJJ.
Werdum- Best BJJ in the game imo. Cut to early from UFC.


Barnett - Dont like him, but good fighter. Drug head  :crazy2:
Rogers - Not as good as above, had 10-0 record. But lost two in a row to Fedor and The reem.

I think the top 3 SF fighter are better than the top 3 UFC.
I also think SF have a better dept and variation.

Its not without reason the SF GP is the most anticipated event in years, and its not only because of Fedor...
 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Wednesday 9 February 2011, 11:22:27 PM
AS you've said the UFC has Cain, JDS, Big Nog as it's main guys - in terms of MMA not marketing.

Brock is the most rediculous athlete in MMA (maybe Bones comes close). He needs to learn a lot quickly and doing it his way will always be a problem. He's the next coach on TUF so we'll see what he's learned and the types of guys he working with - if he goes to Greg Jackson he could be the most boring but unstoppable heavyweight going.

Carwin has ok cardio i think he just spunked his wad in the Lesner fight. Also coming back from an injurt lay off and a drug rumour may test him.

As far as I can see Mir and Cro Cop are done, they're too big for lightheavy and too small for todays heavyweights.

SF has AO who I have a new respect fro after he won the k-1. Fedor and Werdum.

Rogers is good and although he's on a two fight loosing streak his fight against Fedor was awesome.
Arlovski is small and old not to mention glass chinned. I loved the man for years so I'll still give SF that.

The UFC has  Pat Barry, Matt Mitrione, Big Country, Big Sexy, Schaub  and Struve in the wings who i'm excited buy.

I think a UFC SF draw is a fair result.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 10 February 2011, 12:47:13 AM
Rampage v Evans @ UFC 130.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 10 February 2011, 01:21:46 AM
Think Rampage will turn up this time?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 10 February 2011, 03:16:40 AM
Booooooring. Just seen this fight, and it wasn't pleasing on the eye. Will be just the same this time, even if Rampage turn up like he did against Machida.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 10 February 2011, 03:23:11 AM
Rampage f***ing BEAT Machida. 2 out of 3 rounds pedro, f*** you pedro.

f*** pedro.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 10 February 2011, 03:50:04 AM
Thiago Silva is NOT injured, and will face Rampage at UFC 130 as planned.
http://www.tatame.com/2011/02/09/Thiago-Silva--Im-not-injured-and-Im-looking-forward-to-fight-Rampage

Edit: But he may have been juicing before the match with Vera, and thus Rashad is maybe still fighting Rampage.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/22401/thiago-silvas-status-in-doubt-for-ufc-130-rampage-jackson-could-face-rashad-evans.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+mmajunkie+(MMAjunkie.com+Feed%
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 10 February 2011, 08:37:18 AM
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Thursday 10 February 2011, 08:51:40 AM
AS you've said the UFC has Cain, JDS, Big Nog as it's main guys - in terms of MMA not marketing.

Brock is the most rediculous athlete in MMA (maybe Bones comes close). He needs to learn a lot quickly and doing it his way will always be a problem. He's the next coach on TUF so we'll see what he's learned and the types of guys he working with - if he goes to Greg Jackson he could be the most boring but unstoppable heavyweight going.

Carwin has ok cardio i think he just spunked his wad in the Lesner fight. Also coming back from an injurt lay off and a drug rumour may test him.

As far as I can see Mir and Cro Cop are done, they're too big for lightheavy and too small for todays heavyweights.

SF has AO who I have a new respect fro after he won the k-1. Fedor and Werdum.

Rogers is good and although he's on a two fight loosing streak his fight against Fedor was awesome.
Arlovski is small and old not to mention glass chinned. I loved the man for years so I'll still give SF that.

The UFC has  Pat Barry, Matt Mitrione, Big Country, Big Sexy, Schaub  and Struve in the wings who i'm excited buy.

I think a UFC SF draw is a fair result.

Brock is a good Athlete, no doubt. But will he give up Deathclutch and go to a better camp?
If not, he will never reach he`s potential. He is not top 10 HW imo. I was feed wrestlers and grapplers on he`s
way up. As soon as he meet a very good striker, with good takedown defense, he was clueless. Cain destroyed him.
Same in the Carwin fight, Brock was lucky to survive 1st round. To bad Carwins cardio sucks.

Agree with you on Brock to Jackson camp, jesus. That would be grinding :lol:
It would be fun to see how he would evolve if he went to Brazil and trained at Chute Boxe.
That could be some nasty s*** right there.... 

Also Cain is out injured in UFC, so they are talking about a interm belt in 2011.

Hard to say, but SF heavyweight for me is now far more exiting than UFC.
I cant wait to follow the GP in 2011.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 10 February 2011, 09:14:08 AM
In an interview with Bas Rutten, he explains how people aren't allowed to punch Lesnar in training which, if true, explains a lot.

He is training with people like Pat Barry who is one of the best strikers in the HW division, but what does it matter if he isn't allowed to really challenge Lesnar in his stand up?

Nothing wrong with the people Lesnar surrounds himself with in his camp, but he really need someone else to call the shots on how he trains for fights.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Thursday 10 February 2011, 09:58:00 AM
In an interview with Bas Rutten, he explains how people aren't allowed to punch Lesnar in training which, if true, explains a lot.

He is training with people like Pat Barry who is one of the best strikers in the HW division, but what does it matter if he isn't allowed to really challenge Lesnar in his stand up?

Nothing wrong with the people Lesnar surrounds himself with in his camp, but he really need someone else to call the shots on how he trains for fights.

Indeed, but that will not happen in Deathclutch.
He can not be the manager, owner, and main fighter in his gym.

He need to hand over all responsibility to his trainers, he need to be pushed by them, they have to set the pace.

I want him over to another gym, he needs it. As you say, the people around him are good, but they cant work with tied hands.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Thursday 10 February 2011, 07:21:23 PM
Got my tickets for UFC 129 today and they're pretty decent. Can't wait to go to my first live MMA event.

I disagree totally that Strikeforce has the best HW division.

Fedor was a great fighter, but hasn't looked good in his last two fights and I question his desire to fight tough opponents.
Arlofski hasn't won a fight in a few years.
Werdum was cut by the UFC and then beat Strikeforce's alleged top guy quick and easy.
Overeem is a gifted fighter but hasn't fought anyone of note.
Bigfoot got absolutely manhandled by a Light Heavyweight in his last fight and was lucky, imo, to get out of the first round and get the win.

Cain, JDS, Lesnar, Carwin, Nelson, Mir...any of these guys would walk straight through the Strikeforce Grand Prix, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Thursday 10 February 2011, 07:46:57 PM
I'd be so hyped to go to UFC129. GSP is a total legend and Aldo isn't to far behind him either. I didn't really like GSP before he was a coach on TUF but he's got so much talent and class.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Thursday 10 February 2011, 08:45:09 PM
Got my tickets for UFC 129 today and they're pretty decent. Can't wait to go to my first live MMA event.

I disagree totally that Strikeforce has the best HW division.

Fedor was a great fighter, but hasn't looked good in his last two fights and I question his desire to fight tough opponents.
Arlofski hasn't won a fight in a few years.
Werdum was cut by the UFC and then beat Strikeforce's alleged top guy quick and easy.
Overeem is a gifted fighter but hasn't fought anyone of note.
Bigfoot got absolutely manhandled by a Light Heavyweight in his last fight and was lucky, imo, to get out of the first round and get the win.

Cain, JDS, Lesnar, Carwin, Nelson, Mir...any of these guys would walk straight through the Strikeforce Grand Prix, imo.

Wow, nice man, i envy you  O0

About UFC v SF.
Quote
Cain, JDS, Lesnar (?), Carwin, Nelson, Mir...any of these guys would be potential winners of the Strikeforce Grand Prix, imo.

Its a joke man. We all know Werdum was cut way to early from UFC... Its not even a argument.



Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Thursday 10 February 2011, 09:00:34 PM
I would accept Mir and Nelson as questionable (although I still rate them higher than most of the SF guys) but people are way too fast to write off Carwin because he gassed against Lesnar. The man is a beast and I'm sure that I heard he wasn't 100% for that fight. He's quite possibly the most dangerous heavyweight on the planet.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 10 February 2011, 09:09:24 PM
Carwin is a monster, and I still have it down as dumb luck Lesnar beat him. Be class to see them both fight each other after having a real good training game to 'counter' each other's strength. Lesnar would be unstoppable if he upped his standing game, and had a decent gameplan (or two).
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Thursday 10 February 2011, 09:16:11 PM
I would accept Mir and Nelson as questionable (although I still rate them higher than most of the SF guys) but people are way too fast to write off Carwin because he gassed against Lesnar. The man is a beast and I'm sure that I heard he wasn't 100% for that fight. He's quite possibly the most dangerous heavyweight on the planet.

Agree about Carwin. I like him, i really do.
But what do you mean by writing him of just because of the Lesnar fight? Its his first fight who went into 2 round in UFC.
He did not handle that very well.   :lol:
When he gets back, hope he get the Nelson fight, then if he wins. Either JDS or Cain.
Then we judge O0

Lets see who wins the SF GP. I think it will be Overeem, maybe Fedor.
If Overeem wins, he will go to UFC soon i think. He always seem up for it!

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 11 February 2011, 12:48:58 AM
Got my tickets for UFC 129 today and they're pretty decent. Can't wait to go to my first live MMA event.

I disagree totally that Strikeforce has the best HW division.

Fedor was a great fighter, but hasn't looked good in his last two fights and I question his desire to fight tough opponents.
Arlofski hasn't won a fight in a few years.
Werdum was cut by the UFC and then beat Strikeforce's alleged top guy quick and easy.
Overeem is a gifted fighter but hasn't fought anyone of note.
Bigfoot got absolutely manhandled by a Light Heavyweight in his last fight and was lucky, imo, to get out of the first round and get the win.

Cain, JDS, Lesnar, Carwin, Nelson, Mir...any of these guys would walk straight through the Strikeforce Grand Prix, imo.

Meh, he got caught by a quicker fighter, but kept his composure. Never ever got manhandled.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 11 February 2011, 02:28:23 AM
Got my tickets for UFC 129 today and they're pretty decent. Can't wait to go to my first live MMA event.

I disagree totally that Strikeforce has the best HW division.

Fedor was a great fighter, but hasn't looked good in his last two fights and I question his desire to fight tough opponents.
Arlofski hasn't won a fight in a few years.
Werdum was cut by the UFC and then beat Strikeforce's alleged top guy quick and easy.
Overeem is a gifted fighter but hasn't fought anyone of note.
Bigfoot got absolutely manhandled by a Light Heavyweight in his last fight and was lucky, imo, to get out of the first round and get the win.

Cain, JDS, Lesnar, Carwin, Nelson, Mir...any of these guys would walk straight through the Strikeforce Grand Prix, imo.

Meh, he got caught by a quicker fighter, but kept his composure. Never ever got manhandled.

Yeah, I overstated that, but he was lucky to not lose that fight. I don't think that he was taking it very seriously, though, to be fair to him.

I'm not a UFC fanboy, I just don't rate the Strikeforce guys very highly. Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to the tournament, I just think that it's false to claim that these eight guys are at ahead of the top heavyweights in the UFC.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Friday 11 February 2011, 03:17:55 AM
Been watching some of Silva's earlier UFC fights, man. :smitten:

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Anderson_Silva_vs_Chris_Leben_UFC_Ultimate_Fight?vid=10000865

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Anderson_Silva_vs_Rich_Franklin_I_UFC_64_Unstoppab?vid=10000866

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Anderson_Silva_vs_Travis_Lutter_UFC_67_All_or_Noth?vid=10000867

http://www.mmavideosonline.net/fight/222/nate-marquardt-vs-anderson-silva/

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Anderson_Silva_vs_Rich_Franklin_II_UFC_77?vid=10000869

http://www.mmageeks.co.cc/2010/11/anderson-silva-vs-dan-henderson-fight.html

http://www.fightauthority.com/fist-fight.php?fid=254

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Forrest_Griffin_vs_Anderson_Silva_UFC_101_Declara?vid=10005948&tid=100

The Forrest fight is still incredible to watch, also you forget just how dominant Franklin had been until he crossed Silva's path. Just got completely overwhelmed though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 11 February 2011, 07:42:59 AM
Got my tickets for UFC 129 today and they're pretty decent. Can't wait to go to my first live MMA event.

I disagree totally that Strikeforce has the best HW division.

Fedor was a great fighter, but hasn't looked good in his last two fights and I question his desire to fight tough opponents.
Arlofski hasn't won a fight in a few years.
Werdum was cut by the UFC and then beat Strikeforce's alleged top guy quick and easy.
Overeem is a gifted fighter but hasn't fought anyone of note.
Bigfoot got absolutely manhandled by a Light Heavyweight in his last fight and was lucky, imo, to get out of the first round and get the win.

Cain, JDS, Lesnar, Carwin, Nelson, Mir...any of these guys would walk straight through the Strikeforce Grand Prix, imo.

Meh, he got caught by a quicker fighter, but kept his composure. Never ever got manhandled.

Yeah, I overstated that, but he was lucky to not lose that fight. I don't think that he was taking it very seriously, though, to be fair to him.

I'm not a UFC fanboy, I just don't rate the Strikeforce guys very highly. Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to the tournament, I just think that it's false to claim that these eight guys are at ahead of the top heavyweights in the UFC.

Dont think you will find anyone saying that here :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 13 February 2011, 04:27:48 AM
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 13 February 2011, 04:49:35 AM
Spoiler
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 13 February 2011, 04:51:09 AM
 :kasper:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 13 February 2011, 04:57:32 AM
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 13 February 2011, 05:10:45 AM
Please don't say anything more without spoiler tags
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Sunday 13 February 2011, 08:51:10 AM
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Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Sunday 13 February 2011, 11:05:15 AM
Wow at the SF GP first fights :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 13 February 2011, 11:28:52 AM
Please don't say anything more without spoiler tags

Sorry man, was a little drunk and didn't think much last night  :angel:


Anyways, the morning after a event, if you want to keep the results a secret, i advice not go into this tread O0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 14 February 2011, 02:29:20 AM
Didn't spoil to much thankfully. Great fights, and Silva vs Reem/Werdum will be a great one as well.



Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 14 February 2011, 03:29:04 AM
Just watched this s***. Only my 2nd strikeforce event.

Anyway, quite the face mashing by bigfoot there, impressive. Two scary ass guys in that main event.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Tuesday 15 February 2011, 11:31:06 PM
Big step for the UFC/MMA in NYC?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEkWdunXEfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEwAZ5S0Ix8
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 17 February 2011, 05:14:47 PM
Was f***ing devastated when Silva landed that KO kick on Belfort. I WANT THE f***er BEATEN INTO RETIREMENT!!!!!111111111111
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 17 February 2011, 05:17:25 PM
Why?

I don't get the Anderson hate.  He's the best P4P ever, just watch and admire his greatness.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 17 February 2011, 05:21:41 PM
Why?

I don't get the Anderson hate.  He's the best P4P ever, just watch and admire his greatness.

His last few fights just p*ssed me off big time with his dancing and prancing against Maia and his last second win against Sonnen after losing 4 and a half rounds. Just want him beat now tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Thursday 17 February 2011, 06:29:20 PM
Why?

I don't get the Anderson hate.  He's the best P4P ever, just watch and admire his greatness.

His last few fights just p*ssed me off big time with his dancing and prancing against Maia and his last second win against Sonnen after losing 4 and a half rounds. Just want him beat now tbh.

Yes those two fights you have mentioned were annoying, but he's destroyed loads more in fights than he has pranced around in. Look at the Forest Griffin fight for example.

Pointless to get worked up over 2 fights when he has s*** loads of decent ones before and after.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 17 February 2011, 07:10:36 PM
Why?

I don't get the Anderson hate.  He's the best P4P ever, just watch and admire his greatness.

His last few fights just p*ssed me off big time with his dancing and prancing against Maia and his last second win against Sonnen after losing 4 and a half rounds. Just want him beat now tbh.

The Sonnen fight was one of the most legendary things I've ever seen.

You know he suffered a cracked rib in the first round of that fight, right? He basically allowed Sonnen to lie on top of him and beat the s*** out of him for 20 minutes, just waiting for that hint of a mistake that would allow him to submit him from his back. And then he took advantage when it came.

Was amazing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Thursday 17 February 2011, 11:38:34 PM
I thought the line they were taking was Silva cracked a rib pre fight?

which if true is mighty freaking impressive!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 17 February 2011, 11:59:09 PM
Yeah I heard that he cracked his rib pre fight too. its not just his last few fights why I dislike him, I dislike the general way he acts and the attitude he gives off and speak English man, you've had long enough to learn it ffs, you probably speak it fluently; certainly better than the pigeon s*** you come out with at present but for some reason you won't speak it. Oh and I don't like his face either; the sooner he is defeated the better. Stick him in with Cain.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 18 February 2011, 06:59:30 AM
I hope he retires undefeated in the UFC, crushing GSP on the way.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 18 February 2011, 08:01:38 AM
I hope he retires undefeated in the UFC, crushing GSP on the way.

I will certainly be supporting GSP in that one, for sure!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Friday 18 February 2011, 09:06:56 AM
Attitude wise I can see how people don't like him. But in a skill sense he is on another planet to 99.9% of people (Segal being the exception of course).

His popularity is probably the reason he only gets around $200,000 per fight and Lesnar/toney etc get $500,000

If he fights GSP I'll be cheating for Rush but that's not because I hate Silva, I freaking love GSP.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 18 February 2011, 09:29:51 AM
I think he has the right mindset for his matches. If you want my belt, come and take it. Why should he go out of his way just to please the fans, when there is a big risk that he can get tagged?

If his opponent doesn't engage, he won't get the belt, and Silva come out of the fight without a scratch and still champion.

Doesn't happen too often though. Only fights I can think of that has been poor have been the Maia and Leites fights.

I like his attitude, but I agree that he should learn to speak english.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 18 February 2011, 11:20:30 AM
Don't get me wrong I am a great admirer of his skills I just don't like his attitude that all.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 18 February 2011, 03:41:37 PM
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Why should Anderson Silva learn to speak English!?? He lives in Brazil doesn't he? Jeez.

I pity those who dislike Anderson Silva tbh, because no matter how much you want to see him fail, it will never ever happen.

Also, I don't have any desperate need for a GSP - Silva fight because it's just gonna play into Silva's hands, he'd have an unfair advantage and it wouldn't prove anything IMO.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Friday 18 February 2011, 05:01:25 PM
I think I'm with you Semtex on q few of those points. He speaks Portugese I guess and that's his language, end of that for me.

A "super" fight with GSP would be awesome if they were the same weight but I feel like it's only going to be a hinderance to GSP. If I was Anderson I probably wouldn't want that fight except for the $$$$. If hecwins it's because he's the bigger man and it was hard for GSP to make the weight. If he looses everyone that wants to dethrone him gets there way b
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Friday 18 February 2011, 05:42:44 PM
I pity those who dislike Anderson Silva tbh, because no matter how much you want to see him fail, it will never ever happen.

Probably will tbh, nobody in MMA seems to retire before their decline costs them a loss or two. Look at Fedor.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 18 February 2011, 06:04:47 PM
I'm not so sure. I see Anderson Silva walking out when he knows it's his time. Maybe that'll be after a loss, maybe not.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 18 February 2011, 07:21:05 PM
Anderson Silva should learn English because he is making his fortune working for a company in an English speaking country. Plus he already knows some English and from what Ive heard he speaks English miles better than what you hear him speak in the UFC but for some reason he refuses not to speak it. Baffling. Put him in with CAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNnn!!!!!!!11111
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 18 February 2011, 07:28:05 PM
So f*** if he's working for an English speaking company. It's not like he has important board meetings to attend every day. He's a fighter. Who gives a f*** if he wants a translator in his minute long interview after a fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 18 February 2011, 07:30:24 PM
So f*** if he's working for an English speaking company. It's not like he has important board meetings to attend every day. He's a fighter. Who gives a f*** if he wants a translator in his minute long interview after a fight.

I want to remove your anus. Plus, Machida DID beat Rampage, you f***er!!!!!!111
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 18 February 2011, 07:40:30 PM
Hope Bisping smashes Rivera.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 18 February 2011, 07:43:50 PM
Mackem boy is fighting that night too. Hope he gets back on track.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 18 February 2011, 07:48:39 PM
Mackem boy is fighting that night too. Hope he gets back on track.

Aye, always liked him, shame hes a Mackem, like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 19 February 2011, 07:24:26 AM
So f*** if he's working for an English speaking company. It's not like he has important board meetings to attend every day. He's a fighter. Who gives a f*** if he wants a translator in his minute long interview after a fight.

And pre match interviews, press conferances, promotional events.

I see it just like Tevez, who has been in England for several years now, and still can't speak the language. It's embarrasing tbh.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 19 February 2011, 10:10:52 AM
So f*** if he's working for an English speaking company. It's not like he has important board meetings to attend every day. He's a fighter. Who gives a f*** if he wants a translator in his minute long interview after a fight.

And pre match interviews, press conferances, promotional events.

I see it just like Tevez, who has been in England for several years now, and still can't speak the language. It's embarrasing tbh.

EXACTLY!!! Finally, a man with sense; SEMTEX, you could learn a thing or two from him. If I was living or working in a new country, the first thing I would do is learn the language as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 19 February 2011, 01:20:13 PM
He goes to the US once every 8 months or something. You're both full of s***. Tevez lives and works in England all year.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Saturday 19 February 2011, 02:11:51 PM
(http://www.mmaconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/post-images/shogun_jones_epic.jpg)

Class photo. :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 19 February 2011, 02:15:55 PM
Hope Bisping smashes Rivera.

I think that's Bisping's appeal in the UFC, the Brits hope he wins and Yanks want to see him smashed to bits. UFC 'book' him right (to steal a wrestling phrase), in that they keep him interesting, and give him people to beat, so he's just credible enough to be used against decent fighters (which usually knock him to bits).
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 26 February 2011, 10:30:36 AM
Hope Bisping smashes Rivera.

I think that's Bisping's appeal in the UFC, the Brits hope he wins and Yanks want to see him smashed to bits. UFC 'book' him right (to steal a wrestling phrase), in that they keep him interesting, and give him people to beat, so he's just credible enough to be used against decent fighters (which usually knock him to bits).

Like who?? Apart from Hendo ??

Looking forward to tonight.

Penn vs Fitch - Fitch via decision

Bisping vs Rivera - Bisping 2nd round tko

G sot vs Silver -  :celb: fight of the night I think!  - Silver decision

Also fancy Lytle who is on a good run of wins.

Pearson will get a decision vs Fisher.

Also if anyone's interested paul daley's fight ( Bamma 5 )  is on sky channel 114 SyFY.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 26 February 2011, 11:10:42 AM
Bispings alright man, hes not the nob end people make him out to be. I always want him to win.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 26 February 2011, 11:50:09 AM
Skip to 5:28, Bispings smack talk!!  ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbvKTpvsh3k
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Saturday 26 February 2011, 11:59:18 AM
I love Bisping and I hope he kicks the sh*t out of the whole division!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Saturday 26 February 2011, 05:21:32 PM
Rivera has been acting like an absolute idiot. I hope Bisping demolishes him.

Here are my picks: B.J., Bisping, G-Sot. Don't know / care about the rest, except I'd like to see Nick Ring get a win, as a fellow Canadian.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Saturday 26 February 2011, 05:31:40 PM
"Faggot motherfuck.. you, you prick"

:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Saturday 26 February 2011, 07:26:38 PM
"Faggot motherfuck.. you, you prick"

:lol:

Classic insults.

 :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 26 February 2011, 11:56:53 PM
Semtex easily the best thing bamma has seen ad probably will see lol.

What a sp**, should be on the way to the top if the ufc.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 February 2011, 02:58:43 AM
Enjoyed the Pearson fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 February 2011, 01:38:40 PM
Thought all but the main evet were good tonight.

Something so punchable about blowjob penns face.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Sunday 27 February 2011, 07:55:23 PM
Semtex is far too good for BAMMA, So is Ken Shamrock for that matter.

I thought UFC was a good event, again the judging was a bit suspect but what's new?

Bisping was class :D and that's all that matters!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 28 February 2011, 10:31:49 AM
Really good card with some appalling judging.

Glad Bisping won but a shame he acted a bit of a nob after it even though he apologised in his interview.

BJ was going to retire there if he had lost the decision. (which he should have).

Really loved seeing Ebersole; had never seen him before but he injected some personality and humour into his fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 28 February 2011, 04:42:36 PM
It did end up being a good card.

Rivera should never have continued fighting, but in a lot of ways, that illegal knee was the best thing that could have happened to him. He talked himself into a corner against a far superior fighter. The fight was going to go the way it did, so at least Rivera has an excuse now and can move ahead with his career with a little pride intact.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 28 February 2011, 04:46:03 PM
Bispings takedowns looked great, so slick; I just hate how his head is always so high during the standup, it always seems to me like he could get knocked out at any time and Rivera clipped him hard a few times, one nearly flooring him in the second. He needs to correct this somehow.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Monday 28 February 2011, 11:12:23 PM
Bispings takedowns looked great, so slick; I just hate how his head is always so high during the standup, it always seems to me like he could get knocked out at any time and Rivera clipped him hard a few times, one nearly flooring him in the second. He needs to correct this somehow.

This is a bit of a worry but it's not like it's a massive flaw, he's been KO'd once in his carrer and that was buy a massive massive shot. It may have wobbled Sexyama!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 28 February 2011, 11:15:37 PM
Bispings takedowns looked great, so slick; I just hate how his head is always so high during the standup, it always seems to me like he could get knocked out at any time and Rivera clipped him hard a few times, one nearly flooring him in the second. He needs to correct this somehow.

This is a bit of a worry but it's not like it's a massive flaw, he's been KO'd once in his carrer and that was buy a massive massive shot. It may have wobbled Sexyama!

Yeah I know what you mean but in almost every fight hes had in the last few years he seems to get rocked needlessly because his chin is too high.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: NewBoyPeetah on Tuesday 1 March 2011, 11:15:12 AM
Bispings takedowns looked great, so slick; I just hate how his head is always so high during the standup, it always seems to me like he could get knocked out at any time and Rivera clipped him hard a few times, one nearly flooring him in the second. He needs to correct this somehow.

This is a bit of a worry but it's not like it's a massive flaw, he's been KO'd once in his carrer and that was buy a massive massive shot. It may have wobbled Sexyama!

Yeah I know what you mean but in almost every fight hes had in the last few years he seems to get rocked needlessly because his chin is too high.

He does see to get hit a bit with straight right hands, Henderson, Sexyama and now Jorge. However in the first couple of cases I think it was his movement that led him to get hit. In the past he's had a bad habbit of backing off in a straight line. He corrected this against Henderson but instead he circled the wrong way!  Maybe he didn't respect the talents of his last two opponents enough and thought what the hell.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 13 March 2011, 10:46:56 AM
Zuffa bought Strikefoce. Interesting times ahead.
Strikforce will run independently for now, but i can see some monster matches in the making.
Velasquez v Overeem anyone?? :celb:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Zuffa-Purchases-Strikeforce-30800 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Zuffa-Purchases-Strikeforce-30800)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 13 March 2011, 03:13:11 PM
Hmmm. This reminds me of WWF buying WCW. Everything went to tits after that little buyout. Do not like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 19 March 2011, 08:25:29 PM
Mint fight tonight!!!! Woohooo!!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 19 March 2011, 09:09:47 PM
Hmmm. This reminds me of WWF buying WCW. Everything went to tits after that little buyout. Do not like.

 :thup:

Could be very bad news for the industry - nowhere to go now.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SAK on Saturday 19 March 2011, 09:12:17 PM
Shogun vs jones, can't wait. I hope Shogun smashes Jones to bits.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Saturday 19 March 2011, 10:55:28 PM
Shogun vs jones, can't wait. I hope Shogun smashes Jones to bits.
:nope: :nope:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 20 March 2011, 01:48:33 AM
Jon jones on the day of his biggest fight of his career takes out a mugger with a leg kick after chasing him down for a mile and kept him grounded untilthe cops got there. Legend.

How unlucky must you be to go mugging in a park the day Jon jones just happens to be meditating there.  :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 20 March 2011, 04:40:20 AM
Shogun vs jones, can't wait. I hope Shogun smashes Jones to bits.


  :mackems:

Most one-sided fight I've ever seen, made shogun look like a White Audley Harrison  :lol:

Brilliant

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Ginola on Sunday 20 March 2011, 04:55:09 AM
Aye, Jones was untouched at the end of the fight and Shogun was just a mess, totally dominated from start to finish.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SAK on Sunday 20 March 2011, 09:55:02 AM
Shogun vs jones, can't wait. I hope Shogun smashes Jones to bits.


  :mackems:

Most one-sided fight I've ever seen, made shogun look like a White Audley Harrison  :lol:

Brilliant



Yeah he took a beating. Disappointed.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 20 March 2011, 12:40:42 PM
Shogun quit. He tapped at the end. Who can beat bones Jones???
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 21 March 2011, 11:54:04 AM
Hmmm. This reminds me of WWF buying WCW. Everything went to tits after that little buyout. Do not like.

 :thup:

Could be very bad news for the industry - nowhere to go now.

No, its not imo.
There are still a lot of other organisations, that should not be a problem.
I think they will keep Strikeforce as a 2nd division.
We want to see the best fighting the best, now its possible.


Oh, Jon Jones is a beast!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 12:14:48 AM
I wanna see Bones Jones destroy the w***** that is The Spider Silva!!!!111
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 12:18:25 AM
Hmmm. This reminds me of WWF buying WCW. Everything went to tits after that little buyout. Do not like.

 :thup:

Could be very bad news for the industry - nowhere to go now.

No, its not imo.
There are still a lot of other organisations, that should not be a problem.
I think they will keep Strikeforce as a 2nd division.
We want to see the best fighting the best, now its possible.


Oh, Jon Jones is a beast!

Well, time will tell, but if you p*ss Dana off now... you're screwed!

Think Cro-Cop should probably retire. Ever since he was Cro-Cop'd he hasn't been the same.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 12:28:22 AM
Man I love Cro Cop but you're right its about time he retired. And where was the Wild Boys music? A guy who can walk out to Duran Duran and still look cool as f*** is absolutely nails. I knew he'd lose when I saw that he came out to different music. :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 12:41:41 AM
Its not so much he came out and got beat, its more that he came out and put up a good fight and as soon as he took one hit he was out. He was look 'good' up until he took the hit. It'll be sad to see him go, but he's played his part in UFC history.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 12:56:12 AM
Yeah he was definitely winning the fight up until the KO. He was feeling confident and throwing more kicks; shame he got knocked out whilst throwing a kick; would have been interesting to see it land, it might have even KO'd Shuab.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 12:58:24 AM
http://mmajunkie.com/news/22905/dana-white-following-ufc-128-loss-mirko-cro-cop-headed-to-retirement.mma

Quote
Following back-to-back losses and his steady descent in the world heavyweight rankings, Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic (27-9-2 MMA, 4-5 UFC) apparently is headed into retirement.

Ah, well. For the best.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 09:56:25 AM
Cro cop have looked out of it lately. Think he came to the UFC for the last paycheck.(i dont blame him)
He is truely one of the all time MMA legends, and he`s latest fights have not done nothing to change that.
I am happy that he have retired, he need a well earned rest.

Jon jones, the man is crazy. Trained MMA for 3 years :lol:
He will keep the LHW belt a while. (Mind i did say the same about Machida and Rua.)
LHW belt is cursed, almost impossible to defend that f***er.

Jones is just 23 years, he will grow out of the LHW div. soon enough, think we will see him in HW div within 5 years.
He is just to big to be a lwh, and as soon as he gets more meat on the bones, he will be to heavy.

Quote
Well, time will tell, but if you p*ss Dana off now... you're screwed!

Well, i agree with you Chris. But it will always be like that.
Dana is a ass at times, but so is the some of the fighters and agents.
We still have Belltor, BAMMA, M1 and a shitloads of Brazilian vale tudo organizations ready to step up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 10:02:56 AM
Who says he's going to get more meat on his bones? Hes 23; should be fully grown.

So, does anyone give Rashad a hope in hells chance against Jones?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 10:43:57 AM
Who says he's going to get more meat on his bones? Hes 23; should be fully grown.

So, does anyone give Rashad a hope in hells chance against Jones?

I say he will get more meat on the bones.  :lol:
You are not grown out when you are 23 in this game.
Several hours of training each day, he will gain more muscles over time.
He has so little bodyfat already, so when he goes up in weight, it will be very hard for him to cut weight.

Rashad does not have a chance imo. I cant see where he is a better fighter then Jones.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 01:07:38 PM
Just watched the event, good s***. Impressive by Jon Jones. Rest of the card was mediocre like. Jim Miller looked good again. Faber didn't exactly put on a show. Schaub looked canny but that's probably more down to Cro Cop looking done.

This whole merger thing... and the upcoming Diaz v Daley fight... Daley is gonna want to hope he wins that s***.. who knows what Dana's stance is with him now...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:35:43 PM
Dont forget that Hardy and Hathaway are fighting on the Fight Night 24 card on Saturday night.  :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:37:06 PM
Dont forget that Hardy and Hathaway are fighting on the Fight Night 24 card on Saturday night.  :thup:

On ESPN too!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:39:07 PM
Dont forget that Hardy and Hathaway are fighting on the Fight Night 24 card on Saturday night.  :thup:

On ESPN too!

Yep!, the day that ESPN loses the UFC to SKY is the day that I cancel my subscription.  :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:41:46 PM
 :lol:

ESPN is kind to me, so they're safe. Remember there was a rumour years ago that WWE made all cable networks agree that they couldn't carry another wrestling or MMA promotion alongside a WWE program. Not sure if that carried over to SKY or not.

If SKY did get UFC, it'd be on box office. :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:42:23 PM
I wonder if Sky will go the PPV route... it happened with WWE, it'll happen with UFC tbh.

The whole hour earlier thing will be good for the UK though. s**** for the US West Coast like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:49:47 PM
:lol:

ESPN is kind to me, so they're safe. Remember there was a rumour years ago that WWE made all cable networks agree that they couldn't carry another wrestling or MMA promotion alongside a WWE program. Not sure if that carried over to SKY or not.

If SKY did get UFC, it'd be on box office. :(
I wouldn't be sure of that, not for a long time yet. PPV buys have always been dogshite over here, even when they were with sky the first time.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:53:25 PM
Hope that's the case, don't fancy (and won't) buying any UFC PPVs in the future. Only PPV I buy is Wrestlemania, and I don't even buy that anymore.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:53:46 PM
:lol:

ESPN is kind to me, so they're safe. Remember there was a rumour years ago that WWE made all cable networks agree that they couldn't carry another wrestling or MMA promotion alongside a WWE program. Not sure if that carried over to SKY or not.

If SKY did get UFC, it'd be on box office. :(

Ive got it basically for the UFC and NFL Monday Night Football aswell as the occasional football game. If they lose the UFC then they lose me. I think SKY are after it too considering they took on TUF.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:55:35 PM
Really, Really want Shoguns 128 walkout t-shirt but cant find it on sale for a decent price. :(
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:57:23 PM
Really, Really want Shoguns 128 walkout t-shirt but cant find it on sale for a decent price. :(
When can you ever find MMA shirts for a decent price?!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:57:33 PM
:lol:

ESPN is kind to me, so they're safe. Remember there was a rumour years ago that WWE made all cable networks agree that they couldn't carry another wrestling or MMA promotion alongside a WWE program. Not sure if that carried over to SKY or not.

If SKY did get UFC, it'd be on box office. :(

Ive got it basically for the UFC and NFL Monday Night Football aswell as the occasional football game. If they lose the UFC then they lose me. I think SKY are after it too considering they took on TUF.

Aye, depends what you want from it, I get: Italian Football, German Football, Ice Hockey, Baseball, NFL, UFC, NBA, so, I'm good.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 07:59:01 PM
The only decent priced MMA shirts are 5 years old and related to old seasons of TUF or some mediocre fighter who never made it big....

I've got a Korean Zombie tshirt. It's mint.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 08:02:59 PM
Me wanty so bad...... :(


(http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_624000/ff_624198_xl.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 08:03:47 PM
How much are they?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 08:04:53 PM
Bout £30.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 08:06:07 PM
Aye, that's a bit steep.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 08:32:22 PM
One Korean zombie shirt? Pfft! I have three.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 08:33:19 PM
f***ing Tories
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 08:44:53 PM
f***ing Tories
Well played.

(http://mmasoldier.com/mma/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Korean-Zombie-Sleeps.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 09:11:47 PM
So where do you get these cheap old MMA tshirts from?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 23 March 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Just a quick heads up. I noticed the UFC store have got a sale on and If you sign up to the newsletter (which takes 20 seconds) you get a further 10% off. They're not the greatest t-shirts by any means but there's some canny ones and I just bought 6 UFC T shirts for £31.88 delivered.

http://www.ufcstore.eu/index.php?v=ufcuk_ufc_mens_t-shirts&sort=price
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 24 March 2011, 12:29:30 AM
Me wanty so bad...... :(


(http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_624000/ff_624198_xl.jpg)

The blue bad boy one is class as well but £30 for a t-shirt of unknown quality is too steep for me.

Wants a Jon Jones one but none are as good as the two shogun ones ive seen
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Shak on Thursday 24 March 2011, 06:51:27 AM
Jones is a f***ing beast like.

Hope we get to see Jones-Shogun 2 at some point in the future though, Shogun tends to suck in his first fight or two back from injury. Still reckon Jones would have him, but I do think there's a much better fight in Shogun than the one he put up last Saturday.

Jones is something special though, no doubt, gonna be a lot of fun watching him run wild over the LHW division the next few years.

If he cleans out the division he's easily got the size to move to HW at some point in the future too, gonna be a fun career to follow.

Silva v Jones at some point in the future seems like an absolutely epic dream match. GSP seems like he doesn't want to fight Silva, and in all honesty I'm not sure how good a fight that would be in any case. Silva v Jones though is a f***ing dream match in terms of how well their styles would match up. Few years down the road though if it does happen I would guess, hopefully Silva doesn't decline in the interim.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Thursday 24 March 2011, 09:01:20 AM
Transition period at the moment, busy building new stars up. Its to be expected when 1 guy dominates a division for so long, gives no one else a chance to really shine or gain much of a name. Plus, a lot of older guys are just too old now. Franklin is like 2nd generation of modern UFC guys, and he's fading out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 25 March 2011, 08:24:41 AM
Quote
John Olaf "The Viking" Einemo set to face Shane Carwin in UFC debut

John Olaf Einemo is finally set to return to the Fight Game after a long, life threatening battle with health and he is not wasting any time. At UFC 131 in Vancouver on June 11, the Norwegian will face off against #5 ranked Heavyweight Shane Carwin. John Olaf Who?, you may be asking yourself and why is the UFC throwing him to the wolves?? Its the UFC and Mr. Carwin that should be on check. Einemo internationally known for his grappling prowess and also known as the only man ever to beat famed Brazilian Jiu Jitsu ace Roger Gracie at the ADCC in Abu Dhabi.
Once signed with the UFC and asked whom he would like to fight, the 6'6" Norge scoffed "I will fight anyone, any time, No problem, eh?" also commented he wanted to fight the best and not wait around, if they want him to fight Cain Velasquez, he smiled and said "bring it on". Knowing the UFC brass wouldn't throw him into a title fight, Einemo turned his attention to the next best ranked fighter available (with Lesnar and JDS tied up in TUF) #5 ranked Shane Carwin. Instantly signing his contract and calling out Carwin, Einemo awaited patiently for Carwin's team to sign, and now "it's on"...
Einemo and his entire Camp confidently let it be known that this fight is only the beginning of "The Animal" Einemo making up for lost time. Spending over 3 years sparring and improving his stand up with Golden Glory the most devastating striking camp in the game, added with his other worldly grappling skills; trust me when I tell you, do not sleep on Einemo. His sparring partners and camp don't know a training speed, they all train all the time and fight in training like its a fight. That's how you win 5 of the last 6 K-1 world Grand Prix' and revolutionize the Fight Game.
With the likes of Strikeforce, Dream, K-1 world champion Alistair Overeem, Sergei Kharitonov, Semmy Schilt, Gokhan Saki pounding on each other every day; Einemo, those mentioned and the other stars not mentioned will all be a force from here on out. You want some? "Who's Next?"
by Rey Miles

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3013/einemomessagecarwinandt.jpg)

http://mmajunkie.com/news/22952/shane-carwin-meets-newcomer-jon-olav-einemo-at-ufc-132.mma (http://mmajunkie.com/news/22952/shane-carwin-meets-newcomer-jon-olav-einemo-at-ufc-132.mma)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 25 March 2011, 08:57:11 AM
Jepp, Einemo is pretty good, seen his fights, and he moves very well on the ground.
I can`t wait to see him in the UFC, but i think Carwin will be a to big test so early.

But it will be interesting to see his standup game now, Golden Glory has some badass standup guys.
Guess he have picked up a thing or two!

The problem i see with this matchup is that Carwin is a good wrestler, and heavy hands.
All the matches where he faced grappling/sub guys who go for the clinch to get takedowns, its like:
Get in clinch, create 5 inch of space, uppercut-of-massdestruction, DING!!!! TKO!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 25 March 2011, 01:57:10 PM
Carwin is an absolute beast and potentially the best heavyweight in MMA. He's a huge test for someone making his UFC debut, especially one who hasn't had an MMA fight since 2006. I'd be surprised if Einemo doesn't get creamed, though I admit that I don't know much about him.

Some good fights this weekend as well. Phil Davis is one of my favorite fighters. I hope they don't rush him into a title shot against Bones, if he keeps his form.

And Hardy will be on his way to Strikeforce after he gets knocked out this weekend.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 25 March 2011, 02:02:38 PM
I'm looking forward to watching UFC Live without falling asleep. When I spent 3 months at Penn State I walked past the Lionheart gym every day, Phil Davis was probably inside, punching people. Should've signed up for a beating.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Friday 25 March 2011, 02:04:42 PM
I'm looking forward to watching UFC Live without falling asleep. When I spent 3 months at Penn State I walked past the Lionheart gym every day, Phil Davis was probably inside, punching people. Should've signed up for a beating.

 :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Friday 25 March 2011, 02:09:30 PM
According to Davis' wiki page, he only has a blue belt in BJJ. That's crazy. His jiu-jitsu is sick.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 25 March 2011, 02:29:03 PM
What's peoples thoughts on Bamma? We've just started tagging it at work and as I'm not a fan of MMA at all I'm not really clued up on it.  Is it any good?  They seem to be banging on about this Icelandic kid called Gunnar Nelson who's supposed to be the next big thing.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 25 March 2011, 03:59:03 PM
Carwin is an absolute beast and potentially the best heavyweight in MMA. He's a huge test for someone making his UFC debut, especially one who hasn't had an MMA fight since 2006. I'd be surprised if Einemo doesn't get creamed, though I admit that I don't know much about him.

Some good fights this weekend as well. Phil Davis is one of my favorite fighters. I hope they don't rush him into a title shot against Bones, if he keeps his form.

And Hardy will be on his way to Strikeforce after he gets knocked out this weekend.

I f***ing hope not!! Love Dan Hardy me like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 25 March 2011, 10:13:26 PM
What's peoples thoughts on Bamma? We've just started tagging it at work and as I'm not a fan of MMA at all I'm not really clued up on it.  Is it any good?  They seem to be banging on about this Icelandic kid called Gunnar Nelson who's supposed to be the next big thing.

Is that the one on Extreme TV?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 26 March 2011, 03:25:43 PM
Now I don't know if it'll work for UK people or not, but there are 5 prelim fights streaming for free on Facebook tonight. It starts at 7:30PM EST (11:30PM GMT).

http://www.facebook.com/UFC

There are quite a few interesting prelims as well, given that Bruce Leeroy, Hathaway, Sean McKorckle (SP!?!), Jon Madsen & many more are likely not on the main show.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Saturday 26 March 2011, 06:09:53 PM
Hathaway not on the main card?!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 26 March 2011, 06:18:42 PM
Hathaway not on the main card?!

The event is only two hrs. Pretty sure he'll be top of the prelims.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 26 March 2011, 06:21:49 PM
(http://db.tt/wTn8RhF)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 26 March 2011, 06:22:59 PM
I'm actually getting quite excited about this event, the card and prelim card is stacked with fighters I'm interested in. :thup: :thup:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 26 March 2011, 11:34:50 PM
GONNA START SPOILERIZING RIGHT NOW. EVENT HAS STARTED.

I hope Christian Morecraft gets demolished. He just roarred at the camera ffs
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Kasper on Sunday 27 March 2011, 12:05:22 AM
Liking this MacDonald fella
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 12:06:45 AM
Aye. Unfortunately I can barely work out who is who with this f***ing Facebook stream. s*** idea Zuffa, f***ing s***.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Kasper on Sunday 27 March 2011, 12:08:28 AM
Really good fight this
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 02:08:00 AM
Hathaway uninspiring, Alex Caceres looked out of his league, Mackems Semezar ( :lol:) looked good.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 27 March 2011, 02:16:42 AM
Good quality on facebook for me. Is there more fights tonight on there? Only got the end of the Bruce Leroy fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 02:21:58 AM
Good quality on facebook for me. Is there more fights tonight on there? Only got the end of the Bruce Leroy fight.

John madden fight is coming up soon
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 02:22:15 AM
... Madsen...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 27 March 2011, 02:23:37 AM
Nice. Hope Russow hammerfists him to death like he did against Duffe :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 02:35:15 AM
I kinda like Madsen, he came across like a nice chap on TUF
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 03:50:04 AM
I think I love The Korean Zombie
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 March 2011, 04:05:56 AM
The Korean zombie is quality, got some nice t-shirts out as well.

Phil Davis looks a handful, hope I stay awake for it.

Been browsing mma warehouse, love the badboy stuff, especially rua. I'm hoping bones comes out with some good stuff, a bit bland in comparison. Rip off delivery charges, put 6 shirts in me basket, $220, $45 of it delivery. Ouch.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 March 2011, 04:33:04 AM
I've stayed up for this?

Hardy ffs.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 04:57:16 AM
Johnson sucks for lying about how he'd approach the fight. Not that it's any excuse like :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 05:11:52 AM
Phil did what he says on the tin like. At least he didn't come I'm saying he was gonna stand and bang.. Lookin at you Mr Rumble.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 27 March 2011, 05:34:43 AM
Rumble did what he had to do coming in after a long layoff with a huge weight cut. Can hardly blame him for doing the lay and prey for the last two rounds. Hopefully he'll do better in his next fight, but he should be fighting at 185, at least.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 27 March 2011, 11:50:59 AM
Hardy is f***ing God awful. Seriously...
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 March 2011, 03:10:15 PM
It was a crap showing last night from everyone bar the korean zombie.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 03:23:21 PM
That bantamweight fight was canny also. Both men showed immense spirit in that one.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Sunday 27 March 2011, 04:11:06 PM
It was a crap showing last night from everyone bar the korean zombie.

Amir Sadollah?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Gemmill on Sunday 27 March 2011, 06:16:57 PM
I've just started watching this, and am getting quite into it.  Been downloading some of the older fights that a lad at work has recommended.

One thing though.  They should rename hammerfists as hammerhands.  It sounds much better, especially with a Geordie accent. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Sunday 27 March 2011, 06:39:07 PM
Aye, they should get Jeff from Byker Grove to take over for Mike Goldberg.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Gemmill on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:03:33 PM
Sid Waddell + UFC = HAMMAHANDS.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:12:31 PM
UFC is a bit too hugging for me and it seems at times there are obvious openings but people don't take advantage for whatever reason.

Basically I just don't understand it.

We had a UFC vs Boxer debate the other day though, was obviously heavily weighted towards the boxer but was interesting none the less. MMA fighters are absolutely hard as f*** though.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:24:11 PM
MMA vs Boxer discussion is pointless. MMA rules - MMA win, Boxer rules, Boxer win. Otherwise, if you're just talking WHOSE HARDEST?! then I'd go MMA cos boxing is more rule based, and there are nee rules on the street man
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:33:21 PM
The argument was more speed vs technique, you get a boxer in there (like Pacquiao) and he would tear any of them apart before they had a chance to get anything off.

To be honest I was siding more towards MMA as a kick must have longer reach than a punch for a start..

As said, it was interesting but not really going to happen.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:36:27 PM
You should have a look at James Toney's MMA career, I'm sure that's pretty representative of how Manny would fare... honest :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:42:25 PM
You should have a look at James Toney's MMA career, I'm sure that's pretty representative of how Manny would fare... honest :lol:

Out of shape and old, can't really compare with Manny.

Edit: just seen Couture was 47! Mental!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:54:33 PM
The argument was more speed vs technique, you get a boxer in there (like Pacquiao) and he would tear any of them apart before they had a chance to get anything off.

To be honest I was siding more towards MMA as a kick must have longer reach than a punch for a start..

As said, it was interesting but not really going to happen.



Mma fighters with only one discipline, even the best of the best tend to not do so well against those with several.

Worlds greatest boxers wouldn't stand a chance against the best mma fighters. Boxers couldn't cope with being hit so hard with knees, heels, elbows, and difference gloves, nevermind mma fighters who specialise in take downs and wrestling.

Boxers are only used to protecting themselves from fists, their natural guard goes out the window and really only their punching strength and technique can help them out, 10% of what it takes to be a decent mma fighter.

Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 27 March 2011, 07:57:41 PM
The argument was more speed vs technique, you get a boxer in there (like Pacquiao) and he would tear any of them apart before they had a chance to get anything off.

To be honest I was siding more towards MMA as a kick must have longer reach than a punch for a start..

As said, it was interesting but not really going to happen.



Mma fighters with only one discipline, even the best of the best tend to not do so well against those with several.

Worlds greatest boxers wouldn't stand a chance against the best mma fighters. Boxers couldn't cope with being hit so hard with knees, heels, elbows, and difference gloves, nevermind mma fighters who specialise in take downs and wrestling.

Boxers are only used to protecting themselves from fists, their natural guard goes out the window and really only their punching strength and technique can help them out, 10% of what it takes to be a decent mma fighter.



That's pretty much what I thought (but you have more knowledge behind it). We spar with kick boxers and Muay Thai fighters, boxing rules but the respect they give us you think you are god. That's just the respect they have as part of their sports though and it's fantastic. 
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 March 2011, 08:18:20 PM
The argument was more speed vs technique, you get a boxer in there (like Pacquiao) and he would tear any of them apart before they had a chance to get anything off.

To be honest I was siding more towards MMA as a kick must have longer reach than a punch for a start..

As said, it was interesting but not really going to happen.



Mma fighters with only one discipline, even the best of the best tend to not do so well against those with several.

Worlds greatest boxers wouldn't stand a chance against the best mma fighters. Boxers couldn't cope with being hit so hard with knees, heels, elbows, and difference gloves, nevermind mma fighters who specialise in take downs and wrestling.

Boxers are only used to protecting themselves from fists, their natural guard goes out the window and really only their punching strength and technique can help them out, 10% of what it takes to be a decent mma fighter.



That's pretty much what I thought (but you have more knowledge behind it). We spar with kick boxers and Muay Thai fighters, boxing rules but the respect they give us you think you are god. That's just the respect they have as part of their sports though and it's fantastic.  

Muay Thai fighters in particular are very respectful of their own sport, their competitors and especially their training. Boxing is known for teaching discipline and respect in even the most unlikely people, Muay Thai is very much the same, but even more so. Every MT fighter does a dance/pray before a fight, can't remember who to, but its to the MT as an art or something like that. One of my mates is a MT fighter, so been told all about it, several times, even had demonstrations on the p*ss which left a couple of us with very bruised shins...though I can proudly say i withstood him and hurt him.  :snod: Next day there was no winner however.  :lol:

Just think if you went from boxing, to kickboxing then to MT, how much more knowledge you'd have as a fighter. Then throw american wrestling in to the equation or brazilian jiu jitsu, even if its just minor, you'd be a more complete fighter, when no rules apply, the one with several disciplines will have more in the locker, and as long as they are of equal size, strength etc...then its obvious who has the upper hand.

You should try MT, a few of my mates are doing it now and love it. I'm far too lazy.


Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 27 March 2011, 08:27:59 PM
Know thanks, Muay Thai fighters are f***ed up :lol: (their training and stuff, as said they had a massive amount of respect).

They did bow when touching gloves and after the fight, it was just a touch of class really.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 March 2011, 08:30:40 PM
Wai khru ram muay

Wai khru ram muay (Thai: ไหว้ครูรำมวย, RTGS: wai khru ram muai, IPA: [wâːj kʰrūː rām mūɛj]) is an action of respect in Thai culture that is performed by participants in Muay Thai competitions. Wai is an action of Thais to show respect to others by putting the hands together like in prayer. Khru means teacher. Ram means dance in the old Thai traditional style. Muay means boxing. Usually Thais prefer to call it short ram muay or wai khru. Ram muay is the way to show respect to the teachers and the trainers. Also, in past muay thai was usually fought in front of the king, so ram muay was also to apologize to the King for the brutality in fighting.
The fighter first performs the wai khru, circling the ring three times before kneeling and bowing three times as a sign of respect to God and man. He also bows to Buddha to ask for protection for himself and his opponent and for an honourable fight.
The fighter then performs the ram muay, whose simple movements demonstrate a fighter's control and style. Each fighter performs the ram muay on each side of the ring to demonstrate his prowess to the audience. The ram muay is a personal ritual, ranging from the very complex to the very simple, and often contains clues about who trained the fighter and where the fighter is from.
The practitioner may wear a headband called a mongkhon and armbands known as pra jiad during the ceremony, and the Ram Muay may be accompanied by music. The mongkhon is unique to Thai boxing and not worn in Cambodia or Burma.


The Ultimate Fighter MT version was class, some great fights in there, did anyone see it?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 27 March 2011, 08:34:20 PM
Know thanks, Muay Thai fighters are f***ed up :lol: (their training and stuff, as said they had a massive amount of respect).

They did bow when touching gloves and after the fight, it was just a touch of class really.

It's the shin damage for me, bruises the size of fists, inch thick gashes all over and bits of bone moving above under the skin, naa, i'm good playing on the 360 mate cheers.  :laugh:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Sunday 27 March 2011, 08:36:27 PM
That's why I box, my little shins would snap in half first kick :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Monday 28 March 2011, 12:35:01 PM
I'm a big Hardy fan but if he can't get up to his feet once he's on his back, his days will be numbered in the UFC.

The problem is now that he's got three consecutive losses, surely one more and he's gona be cut?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 29 March 2011, 02:30:07 AM
Quote
why does everybody p*ss and moan about boxing vs mma? Every other fighting style puts itself to the test by entering mma. That includes kick boxing, muay thai, jiu jitsu, wrestling, karate, and yes, boxing.

random comment on youtube from the Toney vs Couture fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 29 March 2011, 02:37:48 AM
Because it's a popular spectator sport.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 01:17:25 AM
I'm a big Hardy fan but if he can't get up to his feet once he's on his back, his days will be numbered in the UFC.

The problem is now that he's got three consecutive losses, surely one more and he's gona be cut?

The one thing in Hardys favour is that Dana really likes him and has said so since the fight: "I f***ing love that kid!" so he definitely has at least one more fight in the UFC. The biggest disappointment for me was that he seemed to have learnt nothing from the GSP fight and was taken down and dominated so easily again. Like I say, I like Hardy too, he has charisma and is a really cool, likable lad and I hope he can turn his fortunes around in the UFC.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 02:03:30 AM
Hard to know if his TDD is improved, since he basically fought a LHW with wrestling background. Johnson started his cut to 170 at 230 pounds. Insane.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 02:10:14 AM
Very true Conjo. I feel sorry for Hardy because I know he is better than he showed the other night. Another thing is that Hardy is a pretty big draw so I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 02:15:30 AM
He ain't getting cut anytime soon. He'll have another fight in England against someone s****, which he'll win. Then he may get back on the ladder, but he's gonna have to improve, and fast.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 02:36:48 AM
I never agree with cutting someone just because they have lost a few in a row. Take Hardy for example: he lost to the champ then he loses to what is surely a top 6 WW in Condit then loses to basically a LH. Dan Hardy is far from being the worst WW in the division so cutting him would be madness. I think he wants to fight Lytle next.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 03:45:32 AM
Even if Hardy got cut, he would just go to Strikeforce. But, yeah, I agree that he's not going to get the axe from UFC just yet. He needs to take a major step down in competition, though, and work his way back up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 30 March 2011, 08:14:38 AM
Indeed, boild my p*ss when they cut "good" fighters, and keeps s***, old, feeder fighters longer down the ladder.
The way UFC cut Federico Werdum still get me angry.... :angry:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 31 March 2011, 05:35:47 PM
Ricardo Almeida has retired.

That is all.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Friday 1 April 2011, 08:26:39 AM
Anthony Pettis answered a question I've always been wondering...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqxy4m7CQ9o&annotation_id=annotation_373657&feature=iv

Spoiler
[close]
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 5 April 2011, 09:06:56 AM
Wand vs Leben confirmed for UFC 132 :celb:
I just love Wanderlei!  :lol:

There are some very interesting events coming up now.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: colinmk on Tuesday 5 April 2011, 10:23:42 AM
Know thanks, Muay Thai fighters are f***ed up :lol: (their training and stuff, as said they had a massive amount of respect).

They did bow when touching gloves and after the fight, it was just a touch of class really.

I've been doing it for about a year now, love it. Takes ages to condition the shins though, mine are still sore after an hour or two of sparring with shinnies on. I've never western boxing but I think you would be able to apply a lot of the basic footwork and movement to muay thai. Would take a while getting used to blocking the kicks, knees and going for the clinches though which are extremely tiring.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Wednesday 6 April 2011, 02:41:13 AM
Indeed, boild my p*ss when they cut "good" fighters, and keeps s***, old, feeder fighters longer down the ladder.
The way UFC cut Federico Werdum still get me angry.... :angry:

They never 'cut' Werdum at all, negotiations just broke down on singing a contract extension.


Hard to know if his TDD is improved, since he basically fought a LHW with wrestling background. Johnson started his cut to 170 at 230 pounds. Insane.

It's not really hard to know, he didn't do anything to shoot his hips and fight off a takedown... actually, he initiated a lot of the grappling himself via the clinch and shooting for a single (I think?). I think the real question lies with his fight IQ, which he seeminly has none of.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 6 April 2011, 08:16:28 AM
Indeed, boild my p*ss when they cut "good" fighters, and keeps s***, old, feeder fighters longer down the ladder.
The way UFC cut Federico Werdum still get me angry.... :angry:

They never 'cut' Werdum at all, negotiations just broke down on singing a contract extension.

Hard to know if his TDD is improved, since he basically fought a LHW with wrestling background. Johnson started his cut to 170 at 230 pounds. Insane.

It's not really hard to know, he didn't do anything to shoot his hips and fight off a takedown... actually, he initiated a lot of the grappling himself via the clinch and shooting for a single (I think?). I think the real question lies with his fight IQ, which he seeminly has none of.

:lol: You seriously see it that way?
He was a titel contender, and lost to JDS. Then UFC offer him half the money he was on.
Maybe they do not call it to cut him, but they forced him out, sounds better don`t it :lol:

Its just so stupid move by UFC to lose him like that. He was, and still is a top 10 HW fighter.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 7 April 2011, 10:13:08 PM
TUF 13 on ESPN right now, new season, just started
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Thursday 7 April 2011, 11:26:47 PM
Fighting Fight magazine has a UFC vs Boxing feature this month if anyone is interested considering we were discussing it recently.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 8 April 2011, 07:52:51 AM
TUF 13 on ESPN right now, new season, just started

Saw the first episode the other day, some interesting fighters.
Will watch episode nr 2 today.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Friday 8 April 2011, 08:18:11 AM
Two first episodes have been a total snooze fest imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 8 April 2011, 09:40:21 AM
Fighting Fight magazine has a UFC vs Boxing feature this month if anyone is interested considering we were discussing it recently.

What is there to discuss? UFC walks all over boxing

Word!  O0
It so stupid to even compare them, boxing is a small part of what MMA are.
Boxing have no defence for 90% of what MMA have to offer.

Boxing can be a decent starting point, but alone, nee chance!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 9 April 2011, 05:02:01 AM
Paul Daley fighting for the Strickeforce welterweight championship against Nick Diaz tomorrow. Could be good fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Sunday 10 April 2011, 06:59:19 AM
Spoiler...




























That's why diaz is champion. What a chin,  Daley did alright though
Hope he still gets a shot in the ufc.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Sunday 10 April 2011, 10:42:40 AM
And also why the fight should be judged as a whole.....Mousasi SMASHED Jardine
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 10 April 2011, 04:05:46 PM
The end to that Diaz Daley fight confused me. I need to rewatch. It just seemed that Daley become groggy without me noticing any particularly big hit. Had to turn it off the second it ended as the match has started, but it just seemed odd.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: foon on Sunday 10 April 2011, 05:38:14 PM
Who is the 4% that voted against UFC vs. Strikeforce Superfights? Crazy.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Sunday 10 April 2011, 07:47:02 PM
Who is the 4% that voted against UFC vs. Strikeforce Superfights? Crazy.

Probably people who have been watching Strikeforce for years and needlessly 'siding' with them over UFC, rather than just appreciating both companies. Like WCW vs WWF!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Sunday 10 April 2011, 09:46:44 PM
Strikforce was really good yesterday. Diaz is class! Was 4 entertaining fights  O0


Oh, this was kind of fun!

"http://www.youtube.com/v/9qOsm8DTYeI&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3">
"http://www.youtube.com/v/t3ubsks6ZXU&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3">
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 11 April 2011, 03:22:27 AM
And also why the fight should be judged as a whole.....Mousasi SMASHED Jardine

Not sure it needs to be judged as a whole. Mousasi should have won on points even with the point deducted. The problem is the judges, and that none of them have any legit MMA background.

Ricardo Almeida has retired, and is working on becoming a judge. Hope more retired fighters follows, as that could solve the abysmal judging we have seen for a long time now.

Strikeforce on saturday was really good, as their 3-4 last events also have been.

Let's see Melendez vs. Maynard/Edgar, Diaz vs. GSP, Overeem vs. Cain/Dos Santos/Lesnar  O0
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 12 April 2011, 11:38:10 PM
Nah sorry been watching a fair bit of UFC and you get a top boxer (not overweight, average boxer )vs a UFC fighter and the boxer destroys him. They can't defend punches and don't seem to throw when they have obvious openings.

A 10 and a half/11 stone UFC fighter vs Manny Pacquiao and Manny would destroy him within the first round including working each other out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: colinmk on Tuesday 12 April 2011, 11:48:08 PM
Nah sorry been watching a fair bit of UFC and you get a top boxer (not overweight, average boxer )vs a UFC fighter and the boxer destroys him. They can't defend punches and don't seem to throw when they have obvious openings.

A 10 and a half/11 stone UFC fighter vs Manny Pacquiao and Manny would destroy him within the first round including working each other out.

Are you talking boxing rules yeah?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 12 April 2011, 11:58:44 PM
Nope any rules, UFC fighters look very hesitant. You get a quickly or powerful boxer in there which will take the fight to the UFC lad and they would get torn apart.

I know people will talk about the greater range of "weapons. The ufc figthers have but I really think a quick boxer would end the fight before the ufc lad has worked his way into the fight. The stance is too open, to square on and too hesitant. They don't seem to really block punches, they move a bit but they always look to try and go for the ground work.

Boxing all the way :snod:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: colinmk on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 12:09:00 AM
Nope any rules, UFC fighters look very hesitant. You get a quickly or powerful boxer in there which will take the fight to the UFC lad and they would get torn apart.

I know people will talk about the greater range of "weapons. The ufc figthers have but I really think a quick boxer would end the fight before the ufc lad has worked his way into the fight. The stance is too open, to square on and too hesitant. They don't seem to really block punches, they move a bit but they always look to try and go for the ground work.

Boxing all the way :snod:

Dunno really. I have not seen that much UFC but some of the ju-jitsu guys are very, very good at getting their opponent on the deck and obviously when that happens it is gameover. I know what you mean about their stance but they just have to get through one or two hits to get into the grappling position. Muay Thai all the way!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 12:10:14 AM
Jose Aldo would destroy Pacquiao.

Pac Man wouldn't stand a chance against Jose's leg kicks.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 07:34:34 AM
Nope any rules, UFC fighters look very hesitant. You get a quickly or powerful boxer in there which will take the fight to the UFC lad and they would get torn apart.

I know people will talk about the greater range of "weapons. The ufc figthers have but I really think a quick boxer would end the fight before the ufc lad has worked his way into the fight. The stance is too open, to square on and too hesitant. They don't seem to really block punches, they move a bit but they always look to try and go for the ground work.

Boxing all the way :snod:

Are you just trying to wind us up? :lol:
Boxers will always have a punchers chance, and be able to overwhelm people in the start of the fight, but once they get to the elite mma guys, the are usually taken down quickly and disposed of in an efficient manner.

Good examples are Belfort and Baroni. They tore apart many lower level fighters in the first round with their boxing, but as soon as they meet a guy with good wrestling who are able to take them down, they brake mentally.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 08:05:12 AM
Nah just fancied the debate again as I was watching UFC, I still can't understand why they don't punch so much when on the ground though, there always seems to be massive opportunities but they don't take them. I dunno!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 09:43:16 AM
Think it's partly down the fighters pacing them selves so they don't gas to early, fear of losing the dominant position/being swept, and also fear of being submitted as they are leaving a lot limbs out for the opponent to grab onto.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Clay on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 09:54:35 AM
Pinning someone to the ground and maintaining dominant position, looking for and defending submissions will use a hell of a lot of energy without blowing even more on punches, I'm no expert but I expect it's a hell of a lot harder to hurt/knock a guy out when you're lying on top of them! look at how f***ed Carwin was in the Brock fight :)
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 12:20:54 PM
Yeah that makes a lot of sense actually. There was obviously a reason but I just couldn't see it.

I do like UFC more than I used to, I have to say the submission/ground work isn't my cup of tea but I have seen some good fights recently including someone getting knocked it with a straight kick to the face which was pretty cool, oh and some black dude doing a round house type move with his elbow :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 12:49:09 PM
That sounds like John bones jones, best fighter in the UFC  :snod:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 12:52:10 PM
Nope any rules, UFC fighters look very hesitant. You get a quickly or powerful boxer
in there which will take the fight to the UFC lad
 and they would get torn apart.

I know people will talk about the greater range of "weapons.
The ufc figthers have but I really think a quick boxer would end the fight before the ufc lad has worked his way into the fight.
The stance is too open, to square on and too hesitant.
They don't seem to really block punches, they move a bit but they always look to try and go for the ground work.

Boxing all the way :snod:

You wum you! :lol:
Some of the top UFC guys are pro boxers also, Antônio Rogério Nogueira, won many big boxing championships in south america.
Nick Diaz is on very very good boxer, 3-0 so far i think. If i heard right this weekend, he had in the contract that he can
walk away from MMA and go pro boxing at anytime. He even have a agreement to meet Roy Jones Jr or something.

Add black belt in BJJ to that, and its done deal. The boxer wont throw a punch in that match before its on the ground.

Boxing is just way to limited against top MMA fighters.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: kingdawson on Wednesday 13 April 2011, 03:09:15 PM
I'm going back to train for Greco Roman wrestling next week :celb:. Used to do it loads when i was around 15 to about 19 but not done any form of training since. I used to be damn good to but i got f***ing lazy. I really can't wait.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 25 April 2011, 10:26:13 PM
http://mmajunkie.com/news/23365/jon-...or-ufc-133.mma

Quote
: With UFC light-heavyweight champion Jon Jones (13-1 MMA, 7-1 UFC) injured, UFC officials have now booked a bout between the champ's original opponent, Rashad Evans (15-1-1 MMA, 10-1-1 UFC), and replacement Phil Davis (9-0 MMA, 5-0 UFC).

 Sources today confirmed with MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) the new matchup, which takes place at UFC 133. The Canadian Press' Neil Davidson first reported the opponent switch, which was later officially announced by the UFC.

 A source told MMAjunkie.com that Jones is facing a lengthy recovery from a torn right-hand ligament suffered in his title win. A timetable for his return wasn't immediately available.

 Although not officially announced, UFC 133 is expected to take place Aug. 6 in Philadelphia. The main card is expected to air on pay-per-view.

 The change of plans means another speed bump in Evans' request to reclaim the UFC's light-heavyweight title.

 Evans had been in line to fight then-champ Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 128 before a knee injury forced Evans off the card. As Rua healed from his own knee injury, Evans sat out nearly a year waiting for the title shot rather than taking a non-championship bout and risking his shot at the belt. But when he lost the slot due to injury, UFC officials gave it to Jones following his early-February victory over fellow top prospect Ryan Bader at UFC 126.

 Jones won the title from Rua in dominant fashion at UFC 128, which set up a meeting with Evans, a former training partner with whom he's now had a very public fallout.

 But rather than Jones, Evans next will fight Davis, a former NCAA Division I national wrestling champion. Davis is 9-0 in his pro career, and the past five fights have come in the UFC. With victories over Brian Stann, Alexander Gustafsson, Rodney Wallace and Tim Boetsch, he began drawing comparisons to Jones. In this past month's UFC Fight Night 24 headliner, Davis scored one of his biggest wins yet: a hard-fought unanimous-decision victory over notable Antonio Rogerio Nogueira.

 For the latest on UFC 133, stay to tuned to the UFC Rumors section of the site.


Donno what to think.  ???
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 25 April 2011, 10:42:31 PM
I know what to think. Get. The. f***. In.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Monday 25 April 2011, 11:45:15 PM
Cajun man, 9 times out of ten the boxer would get f***ed up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Cajun on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 10:32:30 AM
Cajun man, 9 times out of ten the boxer would get f***ed up.

:lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 11:17:28 AM
Anyone else really disappointed with the Ultimate Fighter so far?  All the fights have been s****!  Can't believe how much of a pansy that guy was in the last one considering he was giving it the biggun beforehand!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 11:19:04 AM
I know what to think. Get. The. f***. In.

Yeah, but what a f***ing mismatch tbh.
Evans will wipe the floor with Davis.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 11:20:55 AM
Anyone else really disappointed with the Ultimate Fighter so far?  All the fights have been s****!  Can't believe how much of a pansy that guy was in the last one considering he was giving it the biggun beforehand!

Agree. The match in ep3 was good though.
But the 3 other have been w***.

That last one was so s***. Taped 0,1 sec after the choke was secured.  :iamatwat:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Kasper on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 11:21:31 AM
Anyone else really disappointed with the Ultimate Fighter so far?  All the fights have been s****!  Can't believe how much of a pansy that guy was in the last one considering he was giving it the biggun beforehand!

Aye. All the fights have been 2 or 3 rounds of two guys leaning against each other :thdn:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 02:49:32 PM
I've got tickets to UFC 129 this weekend. Can't wait. What are your predictions?

Mine: GSP. Aldo. Brilz. Machida. Bocek. Diaz. Pearson.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 02:59:27 PM
I've got tickets to UFC 129 this weekend. Can't wait. What are your predictions?

Mine: GSP. Aldo. Brilz. Machida. Bocek. Diaz. Pearson.

You lucky f***! :lol:

I think your predictions are spot on, but i have Henderson instead of Brilz.
Maybe even a feeling of a upset with GSP v Shilds :shifty:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 03:06:35 PM
Don't believe the hype machine over Jake Shields. He's a great BJJ guy, but average in every other way. Say what you want about GSP, but he is the master at making his opponents fight his game and eats one-dimensional fighters for lunch. He's going to batter Shields for five rounds, imo.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 05:38:20 PM
I've got tickets to UFC 129 this weekend. Can't wait. What are your predictions?

Mine: GSP. Aldo. Brilz. Machida. Bocek. Diaz. Pearson.

Nice one, hope you enjoy it. I'll be expecting a review!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 07:08:24 PM
Don't believe the hype machine over Jake Shields. He's a great BJJ guy, but average in every other way. Say what you want about GSP, but he is the master at making his opponents fight his game and eats one-dimensional fighters for lunch. He's going to batter Shields for five rounds, imo.

That hype machine have went by without notice. Does anyone really expect him to win?
But he is the best BJJ/SW guy GSP has meet imo, Shields moves like no other on the ground.

I do not expect Shields to win, but i got this feeling...
One mistake from GSP, and it can be over... Just saying :pow:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 26 April 2011, 07:30:49 PM
I know what to think. Get. The. f***. In.

Yeah, but what a f***ing mismatch tbh.
Evans will wipe the floor with Davis.

Well im only bothered because it's in philly and it's shortly after my birthday. :)

I dont think it's quite the mismatch you think. There's no doubting that Mr Wonderful will have no intentions other than to take him down and roll around for three rounds. And I hope he does it.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 27 April 2011, 11:11:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx3q1nJCVk
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: PENKAAA on Wednesday 27 April 2011, 02:23:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx3q1nJCVk

Terry Tate Office linebacker rip-off
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Friday 29 April 2011, 04:37:57 PM
Another underwhelming fight in TUF this week!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 30 April 2011, 05:33:11 AM
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/191977/156u2au.jpg)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Slim on Saturday 30 April 2011, 02:03:30 PM
Had talksport on last night and the presenter said cage fighting was scripted!!  Someone pulled him and he said he was told by 2 fighters it was....c***
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 1 May 2011, 10:45:34 PM
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/192349/bighominick.jpg)

Hominick's head after the Aldo fight last night.  Jesus christ.  :kasper:
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: thewellander on Monday 2 May 2011, 01:20:12 AM
Just got back home from Toronto. Was a great event. The crowd was way into Rory MacDonald smashing Nate Diaz, and of course, for Hominick, who is now a Canadian national hero. Everyone seemed pretty let down by the GSP v Jake Shields fight. I hope they get Nick Diaz in the ring with GSP next. He might actually attempt to win the fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Monday 2 May 2011, 03:32:50 AM
Yet another uneventful GSP fight. I respect his ability. He is probably the best p4p fighter in the world, but f*** me how boring it is to see him fight.

If he fought Nick Diaz he would just take him down like he did Hardy, Alves and Penn and stay on top for 25 minutes without being able to finish the fight.

The days of GSP beating his opponents at their own game is sadly over. He won't lose until he meets someone with better wrestling than him.


UFC 129 was generally awsome though. Great fights, great atmosphere. A milestone in the UFC history.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: mofo on Monday 2 May 2011, 10:23:10 AM
cracking card.  how good was machidas kick!!
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SAK on Monday 2 May 2011, 06:06:09 PM
^^^^
The karate kid style crane kick was brilliant. Also loved the way GSP kept Jake Shields at bay with his jab especially when Shield stepped right into one and dropped to the mat.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 3 May 2011, 02:32:02 AM
Just watching this now. Massively impressed by Ben Henderson. Especially when he got out of the anaconda/guillotine attempt in the second round and just unleashed the rage. Really good fight.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 3 May 2011, 03:10:47 AM
Machidas KO. Jeeeeezassss
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Chrisjraby on Thursday 5 May 2011, 12:06:37 AM
Turned out to be one of the best events in a long time, i've been getting a bit disappointed with the performances in the last few but this was fantastic overall (except the GSP fight obviously).  I managed to forget about the undercard fights on facebook once again, were any of them any good?

One thing that still confuses me now is how the judges can score the fights so differently.  If I remember correctly, wasn't the GSP fight scored something like 50-43, 48-47 and 48-47?  Madness.

I did have a good chuckle when Shields started to taunt GSP, can't remember if it was in the 3rd or 4th round, but what was he trying to get at?  Shields hardly made any attempts to even attack GSP, and GSP isn't the kind of fighter who is going to lose his head and just go for the kill.  Surely he learnt that from the Koscheck build up and fight?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 5 May 2011, 01:21:42 AM
Shields wasn't trying to do anything other than get GSP to make a mistake and attack. It'll happen every fight with GSP tbh.

Getting to the point where I want GSP dealt with.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 6 May 2011, 04:58:26 PM
Was in stitches when Machida thanked Steven Seagal for teaching him the front kick to the face! I thought that Seagal was the worlds ultimate bullshitter when he was taking the credit for Anderson Silva's face kick the other month but when Machida thanked him for it I couldnt believe it!  :lol:

Steven Seagal is ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!1111111
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: PENKAAA on Friday 6 May 2011, 08:34:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3N5Rnx37O0

Joe Rogan was teaching the turning side kick to GSP before ufc 129 and you can see many occasions where he was using it in the match. Rogan is amazing at that kick like.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Dokko on Friday 6 May 2011, 08:49:14 PM
My virgin box missed the final round of the gsp fight, what happened?
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 6 May 2011, 08:50:26 PM
f*** all.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Friday 6 May 2011, 08:59:26 PM
My virgin box missed the final round of the gsp fight, what happened?


Same to me mate.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 6 May 2011, 09:00:30 PM
worth remembering for future events that you get a few long fights, especially 5 rounders, the thing will overrun, and Virgin boxes/Verizon FIOS boxes (in my case), will not record until the end of the show. Manual recording is the way forward. I nearly had this issue with the UFC Fight for Troops event.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Friday 6 May 2011, 09:05:42 PM
worth remembering for future events that you get a few long fights, especially 5 rounders, the thing will overrun, and Virgin boxes/Verizon FIOS boxes (in my case), will not record until the end of the show. Manual recording is the way forward. I nearly had this issue with the UFC Fight for Troops event.

Cheers for that, assumed it was a random box f*** up.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: hakka on Friday 6 May 2011, 09:08:12 PM
Was in stitches when Machida thanked Steven Seagal for teaching him the front kick to the face! I thought that Seagal was the worlds ultimate bullshitter when he was taking the credit for Anderson Silva's face kick the other month but when Machida thanked him for it I couldnt believe it!  :lol:

Steven Seagal is ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!1111111

Yeah agree, it's pretty class that fighters are taking on his advice and winning using it! And it's a very entertaining type of knock out.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: pedro111 on Friday 6 May 2011, 09:12:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3N5Rnx37O0

Joe Rogan was teaching the turning side kick to GSP before ufc 129 and you can see many occasions where he was using it in the match. Rogan is amazing at that kick like.

Wow I knew Rogan was hard but f*** me those kicks are f***ing sick!, absolutely devastating. GSP said in another interview that Rogan has the best spinning back kick hes ever seen in his life and that if he hits someone with it they are going down, 100%.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 8 May 2011, 10:44:46 AM
Rogan is the perfect match for the UFC. He loves the sport, practices several disciplines and connects well with the target audience. They should find someone better to partner him on the commentator table. Eddie Bravo, Frank Mir or Bas Rutten would be class. Goldberg was just at the place in the right time.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 9 May 2011, 10:40:52 AM
129 was a near perfect event, bar GSP v Shields, i really struggled to keep a wake to see the last rounds...

Ben Henderson, i knew he was good, but he suprised me. Really good composure.

Machida KO was just sick, one for the history books.
Randy, hats off, what a man. Good for him to retire now, let his body get a rest.
Title: Re: UFC etc
Post by: High Five o/ on Monday 9 May 2011, 10:48:55 AM
Really dropped out of the whole UFC thing, fed up with it  :-[
Can somebody update me on some of what has happened last couple of events?

Just watch 129