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Title: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 5 August 2019, 07:17:15 AM
What’s ‘The Athletic’? Seen a load of journalists announce they’ve joined this morning (including Chris Waugh as the NUFC reporter).
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 5 August 2019, 07:18:32 AM
Looks like Caulkin too.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Sima on Monday 5 August 2019, 07:29:39 AM
Jonny Sharples is on board as well iirc.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: taxfree on Monday 5 August 2019, 07:37:13 AM
What’s ‘The Athletic’? Seen a load of journalists announce they’ve joined this morning (including Chris Waugh as the NUFC reporter).

https://theathletic.com/1079638/
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: David Edgar on Monday 5 August 2019, 08:01:28 AM
Jonny Sharples is on board as well iirc.

 :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: David Edgar on Monday 5 August 2019, 08:02:40 AM
Waugh's first contribution to the Atlantic is a puff piece on Almiron


I don't see the point in reading it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 5 August 2019, 08:04:46 AM
£9.99 a month or £30ish for the year in mine go...pass.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Monday 5 August 2019, 08:28:11 AM
Something doesn't sit right with me about a US company attempting to monopolise UK sports journalism.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/us-upstart-the-athletic-sends-shockwaves-through-british-football-media-1.3974420?mode=amp

Quote
Mather is unequivocal about The Athletic’s ambition to revolutionise the sports journalism industry.

He told the New York Times: “We will wait every local paper out and let them continuously bleed until we are the last ones standing. We will suck them dry of their best talent at every moment. We will make business extremely difficult for them."

Hmm yes this definitely appears to be a noble cause worthy of my money. No thanks.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 08:42:00 AM
£30 for the year isn't bad at all IMO.

I'm tempted.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 5 August 2019, 08:55:42 AM
It's amazing how people are used to free content nowadays.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:10:32 AM
I've talked myself into it.

There's loads of different sports (NFL a big draw) and all the reviews from the yanks are strong.

£2.50 a month is great value IMO.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: taxfree on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:21:01 AM
The price is very fair. No complaints at all. They have some decent names too in there. Caulkin the most notable one obviously.

Put off a bit from that Wullie post though.

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:29:44 AM
Turned twitter into LinkedIn. Horrific.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:34:58 AM
"Best ever group of writers"

Chris Waugh covering NUFC


This is a parody operation then?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: clintdempsey on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:39:37 AM
I signed up at the introductory price and after looking around a bit it definitely seems worth it. Waugh's articles are a couple of steps above what he did for the Chronicle at first glance. It's just nice with a dedicated sports magazine online without any ads that just works and loads fast and so on. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Sima on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:42:50 AM
Jonny Sharples is on board as well iirc.

 :lol:

I’ve been had, haven’t I? :okay:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: David Edgar on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:46:09 AM
I had actually thought you were in on the joke :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRC on Monday 5 August 2019, 10:21:19 AM
I've had it for a while for the US content and it really is excellent.

Not sure Chris Waugh is up to the standard of writer I expect from the Athletic, but let's see what he can do when not being edited by Ryder.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 10:41:02 AM
I've signed up, been browsing around the site and it's looks great.  They have Boxing and MMA which is an added bonus. Will get the app on my phone, and it will be useful when I'm travelling. Not convinced by Chris Waugh but will give him a chance.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: loki679 on Monday 5 August 2019, 10:49:56 AM
I've had it for a while for the US content and it really is excellent.

Not sure Chris Waugh is up to the standard of writer I expect from the Athletic, but let's see what he can do when not being edited by Ryder.

Imagine working all those years, getting your qualifications, serving your time and then having to have your writing checked by the window licker :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 5 August 2019, 11:00:01 AM
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: David Edgar on Monday 5 August 2019, 11:17:21 AM

Neil Custis of the Sun seems bitter :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: David Edgar on Monday 5 August 2019, 11:18:08 AM
Jonny Sharples is on board as well iirc.

 :lol:

I’ve been had, haven’t I? :okay:

I shouldn't have doubted


Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 12:03:34 PM
The Perez article is an interesting read.

“Things could be done better over there at Newcastle, but Leicester have given me the opportunity to do great things hopefully. There is big ambition. I think how football works, the way you have to look at football, that is the difference between Leicester and Newcastle. There is big motivation here to keep growing and to get better here at Leicester. I didn’t feel they had it at Newcastle."  :(
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Monday 5 August 2019, 12:19:19 PM
If you don’t want to pay for it. Don’t. If you don’t care to pay for sports articles across many sports from some US company. Don’t. You literally can make that decision for yourself.

I enjoy their coverage on all sports and adding the U.K. platform only serves the annual fee I pay even more. If you don’t follow any American sport or much else outside football then I can see why you’d not like it.

Caulkin is a staff writer too I saw.
 
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 5 August 2019, 01:06:49 PM
That post about bleeding locals dry, nah not for me. I might not like the Chronicle but imagine trying to say your looking to make people redundant and being proud of it. Tory as f***.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: triggs on Monday 5 August 2019, 01:46:07 PM
Something doesn't sit right with me about a US company attempting to monopolise UK sports journalism.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/us-upstart-the-athletic-sends-shockwaves-through-british-football-media-1.3974420?mode=amp

Quote
Mather is unequivocal about The Athletic’s ambition to revolutionise the sports journalism industry.

He told the New York Times: “We will wait every local paper out and let them continuously bleed until we are the last ones standing. We will suck them dry of their best talent at every moment. We will make business extremely difficult for them."

Hmm yes this definitely appears to be a noble cause worthy of my money. No thanks.
What a horrendous quote that is :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Gallowgate End on Monday 5 August 2019, 01:53:02 PM
Something doesn't sit right with me about a US company attempting to monopolise UK sports journalism.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/us-upstart-the-athletic-sends-shockwaves-through-british-football-media-1.3974420?mode=amp

Quote
Mather is unequivocal about The Athletic’s ambition to revolutionise the sports journalism industry.

He told the New York Times: “We will wait every local paper out and let them continuously bleed until we are the last ones standing. We will suck them dry of their best talent at every moment. We will make business extremely difficult for them."
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Hmm yes this definitely appears to be a noble cause worthy of my money. No thanks.

Jesus christ :anguish:

No thanks.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 5 August 2019, 01:53:47 PM
That post about bleeding locals dry, nah not for me. I might not like the Chronicle but imagine trying to say your looking to make people redundant and being proud of it. Tory as f***.

It's originally why I didn't subscribe after the first year, he's since apologized for it. Doesn't change that it's literally the opposite thing The Athletic should be trying to do.

Still, it's good content on every big sport you could want and now that they've increased their football coverage, which was the one weak link imo, it should get even better. Don't think you can go wrong buying a year at the intro price and seeing how you like it
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Hughesy on Monday 5 August 2019, 03:28:45 PM
Waugh isn't too bad, but strange they didn't go after Douglas, who I actually think (despite what people say on here) is a decent writer.  Some of his longer reads are quite good.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 5 August 2019, 03:37:17 PM
Feel free to merge if this thread is covered elsewhere.

Be interesting to see if Waugh changes his tune now that he's free from the NCJ, line toeing, shackles.

If he does, it'd be quite the indication of just how heavily influenced the NCJ mob are by the club.

Caulkin also confirmed to have joined the Athletic too (£60.00 per annum).

Ryder still sat by his phone dribbling away :lol:......
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 5 August 2019, 03:47:17 PM
Honestly if they would have hired Ryder I would've cancelled my subscription
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Monday 5 August 2019, 03:53:53 PM
Feel free to merge if this thread is covered elsewhere.

Be interesting to see if Waugh changes his tune now that he's free from the NCJ, line toeing, shackles.

If he does, it'd be quite the indication of just how heavily influenced the NCJ mob are by the club.

Caulkin also confirmed to have joined the Athletic too (£60.00 per annum).

Ryder still sat by his phone dribbling away :lol:......

Hadn't thought of that but they definitely have the feeling of falling back in line since Rafa left albeit

Douglas isn't a Newcastle fan and his life has been made easier by having Bruce
Ryder probably thinks Bruce is better than Rafa as he is a Geordie
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 5 August 2019, 03:59:24 PM
Feel free to merge if this thread is covered elsewhere.

Be interesting to see if Waugh changes his tune now that he's free from the NCJ, line toeing, shackles.

If he does, it'd be quite the indication of just how heavily influenced the NCJ mob are by the club.

Caulkin also confirmed to have joined the Athletic too (£60.00 per annum).

Ryder still sat by his phone dribbling away :lol:......

Hadn't thought of that but they definitely have the feeling of falling back in line since Rafa left albeit

Douglas isn't a Newcastle fan and his life has been made easier by having Bruce
Ryder probably thinks Bruce is better than Rafa as he is a Geordie

100% they'll be privately happy for Bruce. He's Ryder's dream but also good for the local press as he'll not be able to shut up in trying to please them, the feckless wonder.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: John P on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:10:40 PM
Yeah I saw The Athletic were hoovering up a lot of writers over the summer. I've taken the month free trial to see what it's like.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:13:36 PM
Yeah I saw The Athletic were hoovering up a lot of writers over the summer. I've taken the month free trial to see what it's like.

It's only offering me a one week trial.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:14:02 PM
Been reading throughout the day. It's fantastic, so much different content about teams and sports I'm interested in.

Seems like they're having daily Q&A's with podcasts being added. Early impressions: £30 for the year is an absolute bargain.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:14:46 PM
Been reading throughout the day. It's fantastic, so much different content about teams and sports I'm interested in.

Seems like they're having daily Q&A's with podcasts being added. Early impressions: £30 for the year is an absolute bargain.

Shows as £60 in the app?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:18:15 PM
One of the interesting ones for me is Adam Leventhal leaving SSN to cover Watford - surely that’s a huge step down pay-wise?

They’ve hoovered up most regional papers’ lead/secondary writers.

James Pearce was at the Liverpool Echo for yonks, that Brighton reporter was there more than 30 years and Phil Hay has left the YEP to keep covering Leeds. On the face of it, with their dedicated followers and reputation they should flourish but I’d be a bit concerned if I was a bit of a fringe writer.

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:21:33 PM
Been reading throughout the day. It's fantastic, so much different content about teams and sports I'm interested in.

Seems like they're having daily Q&A's with podcasts being added. Early impressions: £30 for the year is an absolute bargain.

Shows as £60 in the app?

I signed up onto website this morning. Free month, then £30 paid in a lump sum for next 12 months.

Seems to be loads of 50% codes on twitter from all journalists.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:26:57 PM
:thup: samptime29 - find the PL addition to now make it a perfect package of different sports content. I like to read vast amount of sports articles across the board so this is good s***. 
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:32:08 PM
I know I sound like I work for them :lol: but I've been shocked at how good it is.

I like reading stuff at work, at home, on phone when travelling. Perfect for that.

I spent £30 on a meal and a couple of drinks on Saturday FFS.  :lol:

For an avid Sport lover and reader - it's a no-brainer tbh.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Chicane on Monday 5 August 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Something doesn't sit right with me about a US company attempting to monopolise UK sports journalism.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/us-upstart-the-athletic-sends-shockwaves-through-british-football-media-1.3974420?mode=amp

Quote
Mather is unequivocal about The Athletic’s ambition to revolutionise the sports journalism industry.

He told the New York Times: “We will wait every local paper out and let them continuously bleed until we are the last ones standing. We will suck them dry of their best talent at every moment. We will make business extremely difficult for them."

Hmm yes this definitely appears to be a noble cause worthy of my money. No thanks.

ugh

Waugh isn't too bad, but strange they didn't go after Douglas, who I actually think (despite what people say on here) is a decent writer.  Some of his longer reads are quite good.

Douglas isn't bad, pretty average I'd say. The fact that Easy Ryder is his immediate competition makes him look like Wordsworth in comparison, probably why he keeps Lee around. Like having an ugly mate hang around with you to make you better looking by proxy  :smug:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ally on Monday 5 August 2019, 05:20:37 PM
Think it’s really poor they are not offering a flexible subscription, even if it’s a bit more pricey. £30 (£60 next year!) is not bad but they want your money up front rather than a Netflix style £6 a month that you can cancel anytime.

They’ve headhunted some of the best in the industry (and Chris Waugh) but will need to sell a LOT of subscriptions to pay all their wages and overheads if they are committed to zero advertising. Interesting concept and no one particularly likes a load of adverts I think we are all too accustomed to getting it for free. I understand the need for a paywall but the online world is too established imo.

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 5 August 2019, 05:37:16 PM
You still get a discount if you renew next year, fwiw. I bet no more than 10% of subscribers pay full price, there's promos all over the place
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tiresias on Monday 5 August 2019, 06:02:37 PM
Meh you get what you pay for and trinity mirrors clickbaiting business model has run local papers into the ground not competition from others.  I'm a sucker for good quality sports writing and if reviews are good I'll jump
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 06:21:22 PM
I like the comments sections on the articles. You often have the journalist's interacting and making further points, and users debating the article.

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Monday 5 August 2019, 06:41:52 PM
solid app for the phone as well that's good if your in transit or traveling a ton as well.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 5 August 2019, 06:45:47 PM
Been reading throughout the day. It's fantastic, so much different content about teams and sports I'm interested in.

Seems like they're having daily Q&A's with podcasts being added. Early impressions: £30 for the year is an absolute bargain.

I've had it since last year because of other sports i'm interested in, worth every penny. I didn't know they were investing in staff for football mind.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: mickthemagpie on Monday 5 August 2019, 07:14:29 PM
Could someone copy and paste any articles about us on here please?

Thanks in advance....
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 5 August 2019, 07:20:04 PM
Been reading throughout the day. It's fantastic, so much different content about teams and sports I'm interested in.

Seems like they're having daily Q&A's with podcasts being added. Early impressions: £30 for the year is an absolute bargain.

I've had it since last year because of other sports i'm interested in, worth every penny. I didn't know they were investing in staff for football mind.

Good to hear.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:09:08 PM
The app is slick as f***, like. But that quote Wullie highlighted doesn't sit right with me at all; it's absolutely lifting regardless of whether he apologised or not for it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tiresias on Monday 5 August 2019, 09:45:20 PM
Find me an internet venture without a c*** in charge and I will give you everything I own
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 5 August 2019, 10:26:57 PM
Doesn't take much to beat the Chronicle's coverage tbh. Yet more dull recollections of yesteryear. They f***ing love it.

?s=20
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 5 August 2019, 10:38:59 PM
The app is slick as f***, like. But that quote Wullie highlighted doesn't sit right with me at all; it's absolutely lifting regardless of whether he apologised or not for it.

I don't love the app, like. Pretty clunky having to continually press the back button at times and stuff like only being able to delete everything in your bookmarks rather than individual articles. I can't seem to unfollow my subscriptions, either?

Edit, re the last point, found it (manage national coverage)
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Si on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 12:15:33 AM
Signed up, this seems to have solved a huge gap in the market. Excited for what they do with the platform.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Pandamninator on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 12:30:11 AM
The guys behind it are the definition of douche Silicon Valley tech bros, but if they can get the product half as good as what they currently produce for the USA sports market, it's worth the every cent.

They were already producing some decent football content, but very top team centric - if anyone will do a good job shining the light on fatty, it's them.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 08:31:58 AM
Had a look this morning, and they're are loads of new articles.

Loving how bitter that snide Neil Custis is about the situation. Well funny.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 09:24:42 AM
Am I the only person who thinks the majority of football writing is complete gash? I genuinely wouldn’t dream of paying for it. You get zero tactical analysis from these people they barely understand the game imo
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 09:56:42 AM
Am I the only person who thinks the majority of football writing is complete gash? I genuinely wouldn’t dream of paying for it. You get zero tactical analysis from these people they barely understand the game imo
They've signed up Michael Cox (Zonal Marking guy), if you rate him?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 10:00:22 AM
Michael Cox is a good listen, regular on the Totally Football Show with James Richardson.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 10:05:48 AM
Am I the only person who thinks the majority of football writing is complete gash? I genuinely wouldn’t dream of paying for it. You get zero tactical analysis from these people they barely understand the game imo
They've signed up Michael Cox (Zonal Marking guy), if you rate him?

Aye he’s pretty good tbh. Just feel like the majority of football writing is gash.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: RS on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 10:24:09 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49236095
Bottom!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 10:30:06 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49236095
Bottom!
I think The Athletic had us down for 19th as well. :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Billy Pilgrim on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 10:35:40 AM
Football journalism is typically awful and they somehow show more hubris than agents. They behave as if they're somehow integral to the game and the oracles of truth. In reality most of them can barely string an original thought together and know f*** all about football.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 11:00:40 AM
The Michael Cox stuff has been pretty good tbh
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 11:17:44 AM
Football journalism is typically awful and they somehow show more hubris than agents. They behave as if they're somehow integral to the game and the oracles of truth. In reality most of them can barely string an original thought together and know f*** all about football.

Each to their own, but disagree with this. Clearly there is some s**** football journalism, but there's some great content out there IMO.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: JH on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 11:34:58 AM
The Chronicle’s content is getting worse. Click bait and filler nonsense.

And their website is the most un-user friendly experience ever.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 11:36:29 AM
‘Newcastle’s policy is shifting again to quality over quantity’

Full on propaganda vehicle now since sheikhover
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 11:37:22 AM
The Chronicle is turd. The website is horrific. Ryder is snider. Gash.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Pandamninator on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 11:41:53 AM
I for one am just shocked that Lee Ryder wasn't one of the chosen ones.

Obviously overplayed his hand during the negotiations and refused to budge from his two Greggs vouchers and a 6 pack per week demands that Keith Bishop is currently paying him.  Definitely overpriced for a man of his... talents.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 12:43:20 PM
Football journalism is typically awful and they somehow show more hubris than agents. They behave as if they're somehow integral to the game and the oracles of truth. In reality most of them can barely string an original thought together and know f*** all about football.

totally agree. paid way too much, way too much self importance. If anyone can tell me why either Custis brother deserves to comment on football then go for it
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: David Edgar on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 12:44:50 PM
‘Newcastle’s policy is shifting again to quality over quantity’

Full on propaganda vehicle now since sheikhover

Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf-esc.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 12:53:27 PM
Tbf I can name more journalists whose opinion I enjoy reading/listening to than I can ex-pros.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 01:00:31 PM
Football journalism is typically awful and they somehow show more hubris than agents. They behave as if they're somehow integral to the game and the oracles of truth. In reality most of them can barely string an original thought together and know f*** all about football.

totally agree. paid way too much, way too much self importance. If anyone can tell me why either Custis brother deserves to comment on football then go for it

Custis is utter gash, but The S*n isn't journalism.

If you get no enjoyment from well written football articles, then fair enough.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 01:02:27 PM
Never realised there was more than one Custis tbh, they must both spout s**** making it difficult to distinguish.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 01:35:27 PM
So does that mean someone like Caulkin has left the times and is solely in this now?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 01:38:05 PM
Football journalism is typically awful and they somehow show more hubris than agents. They behave as if they're somehow integral to the game and the oracles of truth. In reality most of them can barely string an original thought together and know f*** all about football.

totally agree. paid way too much, way too much self importance. If anyone can tell me why either Custis brother deserves to comment on football then go for it

Saw the Twitter storm when this was all released the other day. Every single one seemed like "Here's a cast iron opinion you might as well treat as fact about team x" that you'll look back on in 6 months and will be utter bullshit.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wallsendmag on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 03:37:06 PM

Apparently Rafa got us relegated, not McClaren.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 03:42:45 PM
Comparing Rafa's past record with Steve Bruce's with a straight face. I think I know what that'll 'be about' comparatively.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 04:13:03 PM

Apparently Rafa got us relegated, not McClaren.

"Europe with Hull"  :lol:

They didn't even make the groups.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 04:18:24 PM

Apparently Rafa got us relegated, not McClaren.

"Europe with Hull"  :lol:

They didn't even make the groups.


Don't want to make the groups man, you'll get yourself relegated. Far better throw the games and get knocked out early because you know you'll never play in Europe again. Might as well get relegated anyway because you're a great guy.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Interpolic on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 04:32:31 PM
Aren't the FA Cup final and Europe with Hull the same achievement? :lol:

So he's achieved one thing in his career, where even he has admitted they got lucky with their draws along the way.

Wow what an amazing 20 years he's had in the sport.  That one achievement is meant to somehow offset a f***ing 30% win percentage.

Edit - a 28.1% win percentage :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: GideonShandy on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 05:36:08 PM
BBC (McNulty) predicting that we'll finish 20th.

www.bbc.com/sport/football/49236095

Last year he predicted 18th.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 05:49:08 PM
I keep seeing loads of people referring to stuff like 'a blizzard of discontent from supporters'.

Is this really the case? I mean, as I'm sure will be evidenced by the near 50,000 bums on seats on Sunday, the match-going support is as loyal as ever. Meanwhile, well over a thousand people went down to Preston and sang Bruce's name. 16,000 people thought spending money on a friendly was a fair enough investment. You can see folks out and about wearing the new kit. The Facebook community seems extremely balanced, if not representing a picture of happiness rather than unhappiness. The only demonstration that has happened was absolutely minuscule and immediately laughed at by the manager himself.

It seems to me like people in the media are making stuff up again. "Oh, yeah, Newcastle? Rafa to Bruce. I bet they're all p*ssed off up there, aren't they? They're not? Full house on Sunday? I bet they're livid though. Protests n stuff. I'll write that anyway. 'Blizzard of discontent', that sounds good." I'm not in the city at the moment but I really don't feel like there's any evidence to suggest it's anything other than, basically, business as usual.

I hate the notion that Newcastle-Online is insular, and doesn't provide a broad, general view of Newcastle supporters, and basically just represents one side of any argument. But, at times, it does feel like we're a little bit alone in the universe. :lol:

Can we add a poll to one of the threads, like? Just a simple, 'how do you feel about NUFC right now?' With answers ranging from Ecstatic/Optimistic all the way through to Miserable/Hopeless. I'd be really keen to know how the majority of people who view this board actually feel right now. I feel like it would give me some headpeace.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 06:08:44 PM
Seems like more than historically seen @Yorkie

?s=19
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 06:10:10 PM
Hadn't realised the figures were that significant. :thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 06:18:12 PM
Eh !! but what else can Mike do ? He has spent £60 million this season, fuckin geordies expecting too much
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 06:22:43 PM
On a positive note I heard a bloke in the gym changing room saying “anyone who turns up deserves what they get” and he was older generation so there’s at least someone thinking along those lines
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 06:25:17 PM
So currently 35,000 or so have been sold in our 52,000 stadium. 68% full. 32% empty.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 10:23:53 PM
Hadn't realised the figures were that significant. :thup:

Its hard to gauge the outside world when social media flips and flops as much as it does! From the initial anger of Rafa leaving it seemed like everyone had enough, then recently after a few buys and wor Brewcie in charge it's felt like the tide has turned and we're in the minority.

If those ticket counts are accurate, plus those that have season tickets but won't be attending then it's looking much better than feared.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 01:22:00 AM

Apparently Rafa got us relegated, not McClaren.

Imagine being that disingenuous. What a f***ing butthole.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 07:57:22 AM

Apparently Rafa got us relegated, not McClaren.

I've done Douglas a disservice - I thought he was giving the situation at the Toon only a passing glance but no, he is indeed having a proper gander.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Si on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 08:07:36 AM
How many journalists has Bruce sucked off. Christ.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 08:28:14 AM
Mark Douglas: strange comments like.

Class article about Edu in The Athletic - didn't realise was working behind scenes at Arsenal.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Geordie_once_removed on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 08:52:12 AM
Am I the only person who thinks the majority of football writing is complete gash? I genuinely wouldn’t dream of paying for it. You get zero tactical analysis from these people they barely understand the game imo
I agree and this is why I've signed up to the trial.  Jury is still out as there have been some fairly mediocre articles about players that feel little more than promo pieces written by agents and one God awful article by supposed secret owner.  On the other hand there are some good articles, a good example being an analysis of what the promoted teams will bring in terms of tactics.  Will be interesting to see what their match reporting is like and the analysis of clubs transfer business is.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 02:39:21 PM

Apparently Rafa got us relegated, not McClaren.

He's really a stupid c*** like. FA cup LOSS with Hull where they played nobody above them to get there and a EL qualifying round loss to Lokeren is not success in anyones book.

Most of the journalists this summer have talked utter utter s****. Luke Edwards saying we've had a good window despite being weaker than we were before. Pete Graves and Downie just tow the sky line.

Barely an original thought amongst the lot of them. More insight, truth and sense is written on this forum almost every day than these clowns and thayts saying something.

 
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 03:52:04 PM
Not signed up to this, but the standard of sports ‘journalism/reporting’ in this country is shocking :lol:

Love a good analysis type article or good commentary on going’s on ala Culkin RE NUFC under Ashley.

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 04:25:15 PM
So wait is the Europe with 'ull a result of losing the cup final?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 04:26:48 PM
Aye, and didn't get through qualifying.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 04:28:53 PM
 :lol: :lol:

f***ing hell you can't count that twice.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 04:33:02 PM
Might as well have said "he's also had some successes (FA Cup final, final of the Football Association Challenge Cup, finalists in the Emirates FA Cup)"
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 04:43:03 PM
Might as well have said "he's also had some successes (FA Cup final, final of the Football Association Challenge Cup, finalists in the Emirates FA Cup)"

:lol: :lol: :lol:.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 05:19:03 PM
I keep seeing loads of people referring to stuff like 'a blizzard of discontent from supporters'.

Is this really the case? I mean, as I'm sure will be evidenced by the near 50,000 bums on seats on Sunday, the match-going support is as loyal as ever. Meanwhile, well over a thousand people went down to Preston and sang Bruce's name. 16,000 people thought spending money on a friendly was a fair enough investment. You can see folks out and about wearing the new kit. The Facebook community seems extremely balanced, if not representing a picture of happiness rather than unhappiness. The only demonstration that has happened was absolutely minuscule and immediately laughed at by the manager himself.

It seems to me like people in the media are making stuff up again. "Oh, yeah, Newcastle? Rafa to Bruce. I bet they're all p*ssed off up there, aren't they? They're not? Full house on Sunday? I bet they're livid though. Protests n stuff. I'll write that anyway. 'Blizzard of discontent', that sounds good." I'm not in the city at the moment but I really don't feel like there's any evidence to suggest it's anything other than, basically, business as usual.

I hate the notion that Newcastle-Online is insular, and doesn't provide a broad, general view of Newcastle supporters, and basically just represents one side of any argument. But, at times, it does feel like we're a little bit alone in the universe. :lol:

Can we add a poll to one of the threads, like? Just a simple, 'how do you feel about NUFC right now?' With answers ranging from Ecstatic/Optimistic all the way through to Miserable/Hopeless. I'd be really keen to know how the majority of people who view this board actually feel right now. I feel like it would give me some headpeace.

Proper feel like I'm rimming you at the moment Yorkie but once again you've absolutely nailed it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 05:22:13 PM
Might as well have said "he's also had some successes (FA Cup final, final of the Football Association Challenge Cup, finalists in the Emirates FA Cup)"

When journalists are so intellectually dishonest it's when you think there's some sort of shenanigans going on.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 05:30:24 PM
I keep seeing loads of people referring to stuff like 'a blizzard of discontent from supporters'.

Is this really the case? I mean, as I'm sure will be evidenced by the near 50,000 bums on seats on Sunday, the match-going support is as loyal as ever. Meanwhile, well over a thousand people went down to Preston and sang Bruce's name. 16,000 people thought spending money on a friendly was a fair enough investment. You can see folks out and about wearing the new kit. The Facebook community seems extremely balanced, if not representing a picture of happiness rather than unhappiness. The only demonstration that has happened was absolutely minuscule and immediately laughed at by the manager himself.

It seems to me like people in the media are making stuff up again. "Oh, yeah, Newcastle? Rafa to Bruce. I bet they're all p*ssed off up there, aren't they? They're not? Full house on Sunday? I bet they're livid though. Protests n stuff. I'll write that anyway. 'Blizzard of discontent', that sounds good." I'm not in the city at the moment but I really don't feel like there's any evidence to suggest it's anything other than, basically, business as usual.

I hate the notion that Newcastle-Online is insular, and doesn't provide a broad, general view of Newcastle supporters, and basically just represents one side of any argument. But, at times, it does feel like we're a little bit alone in the universe. :lol:

Can we add a poll to one of the threads, like? Just a simple, 'how do you feel about NUFC right now?' With answers ranging from Ecstatic/Optimistic all the way through to Miserable/Hopeless. I'd be really keen to know how the majority of people who view this board actually feel right now. I feel like it would give me some headpeace.

Proper feel like I'm rimming you at the moment Yorkie but once again you've absolutely nailed it.

Ronaldo would be proud of the fine young man Yorkie has turned out to be, easily one of the best posters on here nowadays who always seems to capture the thoughts and feelings I not only share and agree with, but a general round-up summary of things that always makes sense or for sound argument. 👍
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 05:30:43 PM
It just shows the sheer laziness of most modern day journalists. He remembered he got them in Europe, he just couldn't be arsed to spend 10 seconds looking up how successful or as it turns out unsuccessful they were.


Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 05:31:19 PM
Went off him after his gag about my old fiver. Prick.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 05:43:47 PM
Wouldnt even have qualified for it if it was now.

Look at their run for the cup final as well:

'Boro (championship)
Southend (league 1)
Brighton (championship)
Sunderland (second bottom of the PL)
Sheff United (league 1)

Outright favorites for every game no doubt.

Then 2-0 up in the final after 10 minutes and still lost it.

See how he goes all you want but dont dress up his f***ing failures as successes. must think we're all stupid. :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 05:59:25 PM
Went off him after his gag about my old fiver. Prick.

I never would have had you down for peddling dodgy notes ha ha. That’s something I’d do :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 7 August 2019, 06:13:15 PM
:lol: Cheers for the comments, especially Wullie.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Pandamninator on Thursday 8 August 2019, 01:35:09 AM
Might as well have said "he's also had some successes (FA Cup final, final of the Football Association Challenge Cup, finalists in the Emirates FA Cup)"

When journalists are so intellectually dishonest it's when you think there's some sort of shenanigans going on.

Then they wonder why blogs and the Athletic are coming along and eating their lunch (or in the case of the Athletic, why they weren't invited onto the new gravy train).
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 9 August 2019, 06:18:50 AM
Invalid Tweet ID?s=21
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Friday 9 August 2019, 07:35:37 AM
Eh. There was loads of stuff yesterday and a feature about Bruce on Wednesday. ???
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Friday 9 August 2019, 09:38:16 AM
Can't slate The Athletic for lack of content like  :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 19 August 2019, 08:30:35 AM
The rhetoric from the like of Edwards and that jumped up little c*** Waugh about 'level-headed fans giving him time' is f***ing ridiculous.

Like calling a spade a shovel is now somehow unfair because you do it as soon as it comes out of the garden shed.

Hugely disrespectful of fans who have endured the reigns of Pardew, McCLaren, Carver etc.

We're only too qualified to recognise s****.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 19 August 2019, 08:43:45 AM
Bruce and Ashley have tons of allies in the media like. They can peddle whatever narrative they like but the story is failure before time.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Collage on Monday 19 August 2019, 09:06:33 AM
:lol: :lol:

f***ing hell you can't count that twice.

"They won the FA Cup, and also qualified for the Community Shield"
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Si on Monday 19 August 2019, 10:01:53 AM
The article on Liverpool's prep for recovery after the Super cup was fascinating. Makes you realise how far behind we are off the pitch as well as on it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Monday 19 August 2019, 11:29:33 AM
The article on Liverpool's prep for recovery after the Super cup was fascinating. Makes you realise how far behind we are off the pitch as well as on it.

It really does, not counting the stadium which was built in another era, we are a championship outfit at best.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: mozy on Monday 19 August 2019, 01:42:48 PM
Really enjoying The Athletic so far tbh, content well above the s**** you get in free media these days.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Si on Monday 19 August 2019, 01:52:01 PM
Yeah it's very well done, the articles are so varied too.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 19 August 2019, 02:02:33 PM
Really enjoying The Athletic so far tbh, content well above the s**** you get in free media these days.

Yeah - for the most part me too but I'm not overly impressed with the NUFC stuff tbh.

Looking forward to Caulkin going live with them as he's been very quiet lately regarding NUFC.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRon on Monday 19 August 2019, 02:03:07 PM
Yeah it's very well done, the articles are so varied too.

Have they done one on Steve Bruce's in depth coaching sessions yet? Would love to read the analysis of his playbook and formation structures, and how he targets players specifically for each role in said formations.

 :bruce: :ructions:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 19 August 2019, 02:10:07 PM
The article on Liverpool's prep for recovery after the Super cup was fascinating. Makes you realise how far behind we are off the pitch as well as on it.

It really does, not counting the stadium which was built in another era, we are a championship outfit at best.

Cracking article. Agreed - makes us look pathetic.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Monday 19 August 2019, 05:07:21 PM
I've been enjoying the Q&As Waugh does though - at least he's trying to answer questions.

Love the overall coverage of footie though -
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 24 September 2019, 07:14:31 AM
Been sent an email to get this for £20 (66% off), assume anyone else who took a trial and didn't pay up will have them too. Took the plunge at that price, especially with Caulkin now on board.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Tuesday 24 September 2019, 06:00:58 PM
Been sent an email to get this for £20 (66% off), assume anyone else who took a trial and didn't pay up will have them too. Took the plunge at that price, especially with Caulkin now on board.

I think it's excellent - well worth the coin!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Munkey on Tuesday 24 September 2019, 06:43:43 PM
aye same. i signed up for the free trial and definitely getting subscription. some quality articles on there. main problem for me is finding the time to read all the stuff
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Thursday 26 September 2019, 12:08:13 PM
Really good article with Paul Ferris and Shearer!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Rafalove on Saturday 28 September 2019, 10:12:36 AM
https://youtu.be/vV3Ku2b1SOw
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Saturday 28 September 2019, 12:49:59 PM
Chris Waugh was canny on the TF podcast earlier in the week.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 30 September 2019, 01:29:24 PM
Can anyone remember a particularly derogatory term Luke Edwards used after the first few weeks of Bruce in relation to the fans having preconceived opinions about him? Cheers.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 3 October 2019, 07:15:16 PM
THEY'RE FROM NORTH SHIELDS, LEE'S FROM NORTH SHIELDS

?s=20


Club's continuing to sink further into the s*** and he's churning this muck out.  :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Rafalove on Saturday 12 October 2019, 01:28:53 PM
https://youtu.be/a5CKQcQavbk
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 15 October 2019, 03:00:29 PM
Saw that the other day. It's crazy how unstructured/unregulated the whole business is considering how much money is on the line.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 16 October 2019, 10:07:14 AM
Canny article by Daniel Taylor about Man Utd today in the Athletic - they did no homework when they signed Rojo and didn't realize he had to go court for bottling two people..............conveniently settled out of court of course!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 16 October 2019, 12:50:40 PM
https://theathletic.co.uk/1291861/2019/10/16/kevin-mirallas-exclusive-i-spoke-to-levy-and-pochettino-spurs-was-a-good-opportunity-so-i-pushed-to-leave/

“Martinez and Koeman wanted to play football but after, there was Allardyce,” Mirallas adds. “I don’t know if he even knew football because he only spent five minutes on the pitch in training. Nobody knows this, but it’s true. That’s difficult. You have to pick players at the weekend but you don’t watch training.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 18 October 2019, 04:29:24 AM
What the f*** is he doing in the time they're training? :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Anderson on Friday 18 October 2019, 05:23:06 AM
Drinking gravy.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Friday 18 October 2019, 08:54:11 AM
On talkSport pointing out where other managers are going wrong.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 18 October 2019, 11:36:14 AM
Gets paid £6m a year for doing next to nowt yet has the gall to slag off foreign managers who devote most of their life to mastering the sport. Arrogant w*****.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Friday 18 October 2019, 12:48:06 PM
TalkSport were spouting s**** the other day about man management skills being more important than tactics and that if Big Sam is linked with your club you should be happy about it and not see it as a backward step.

He’s definitely got shares in TS or summat, they are always blowing smoke up his ass and saying how great he is.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Friday 18 October 2019, 01:13:28 PM
They're just keep the regular guests sweet.

It's always the same handful of average players/managers coming on to give their thoughts on things. "Coming up unemployed Ian Holloway on how he would stop the rot at Spurs
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Friday 18 October 2019, 02:18:20 PM
Just pisses me off though how they actively advocate him for jobs. I understand they are WUMs but I just find it very weird
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Tuesday 22 October 2019, 11:16:03 AM
Cracking!

https://theathletic.com/1307687/2019/10/22/matchday-with-michael-flynn-access-all-areas-with-one-of-footballs-brightest-young-managers/
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Gallowgate End on Monday 28 October 2019, 07:09:30 PM
The rhetoric from the like of Edwards and that jumped up little c*** Waugh about 'level-headed fans giving him time' is f***ing ridiculous.

Like calling a spade a shovel is now somehow unfair because you do it as soon as it comes out of the garden shed.

George Caulkin.
“In May, they finished 13th. Twelve months earlier, it was 10th. If that implies consistently, safety, the stodge of mid-table, it is an inaccurate impression.”

The type of thing I’d expect Luke Edwards to write.

What is it with all our local journalists disrespecting the job Rafa Benitez did?

Edwards, Douglas, Waugh, Ryder and now Caulkin.

Disappointing.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: joeyt on Monday 28 October 2019, 07:31:56 PM
Caulkin does not deserve to be lumped in with them
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Monday 28 October 2019, 07:33:55 PM
It’s not even disrespectful. Blokes an oddball, a genuine danger.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 28 October 2019, 08:34:21 PM
The amount of s*** Ryder's churned out from Bruce today, man, without having the f***ing intelligence to question any of it. It's pathetic.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 28 October 2019, 08:36:26 PM
The amount of s*** Ryder's churned out from Bruce today, man, without having the f***ing intelligence to question any of it. It's pathetic.

He's blocked me on Twitter the baldy fraud and the user experience has improved ten fold. Absolute f*** nugget of a man.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 08:41:16 PM
I’ve complained about him but got no reply.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 28 October 2019, 08:49:41 PM
I’ve complained about him but got no reply.

Who? Easy Ryder?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 09:32:54 PM
Aye, to Neil Hodgkinson at The Chronicle.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 09:37:54 PM
This guy was handpicked by The Athletic. Sums up North East journalism.

?s=21

And although he does have a left foot, he is actually right-footed.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 09:52:15 PM
I just think of this when any of The Chronicle journalists attempt to write something decent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OXltf7oUOBI
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 14 November 2019, 10:34:19 AM
I see Chris Waugh did a piece last week waxing lyrical about the strength in depth across our defence, particularly centre back, but didn't spot the irony that it's all down to Rafa.

It seems like these journo's have been encouraged to remove Rafa from our history and lay all of the credit at Stevie's door.

I find it f***ing amazing how all of the press, and many fans, just move on, just get on with, just look at the situation likes it entirely normal.

It's almost like we never had one of the best coaches in the world at our club........
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 14 November 2019, 01:38:12 PM
I see Chris Waugh did a piece last week waxing lyrical about the strength in depth across our defence, particularly centre back, but didn't spot the irony that it's all down to Rafa.

It seems like these journo's have been encouraged to remove Rafa from our history and lay all of the credit at Stevie's door.

I find it f***ing amazing how all of the press, and many fans, just move on, just get on with, just look at the situation likes it entirely normal.

It's almost like we never had one of the best coaches in the world at our club........

For all of elite football's politics, economics and its reflections of its communities - NOTHING dictates public perception like results. Pick up 7 or 8 points from 15 and you'll always be right at rain, regardless of whether or not such a return matches expectations/potential and regardless of any glaring deficiencies.

That's why the whole Rafa-Goes-We-Go crack was never going to amount to anything particularly meaningful. You don't need to win many games to secure attendances.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 14 November 2019, 01:43:56 PM
I see Chris Waugh did a piece last week waxing lyrical about the strength in depth across our defence, particularly centre back, but didn't spot the irony that it's all down to Rafa.

It seems like these journo's have been encouraged to remove Rafa from our history and lay all of the credit at Stevie's door.

I find it f***ing amazing how all of the press, and many fans, just move on, just get on with, just look at the situation likes it entirely normal.

It's almost like we never had one of the best coaches in the world at our club........

For all of elite football's politics, economics and its reflections of its communities - NOTHING dictates public perception like results. Pick up 7 or 8 points from 15 and you'll always be right at rain, regardless of whether or not such a return matches expectations/potential and regardless of any glaring deficiencies.

That's why the whole Rafa-Goes-We-Go crack was never going to amount to anything particularly meaningful. You don't need to win many games to secure attendances.

Dunno like, there seems to be about 6 or 7 thousand that have actually stopped going since last season, and even after a good away win it was only 44k on Saturday.

Once people stop going thry generally don't go back i think.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 14 November 2019, 02:01:42 PM
It's promising but it's still not that meaningful a drop though. It's only really 'sort of' news. If it was half empty it would be a story.

I'll extend the point to media coverage as well though, which was Minhosa's main point.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 14 November 2019, 02:11:50 PM
I won’t go back till Mike Ashley is gone because I known Ashley&Bruce can’t take Newcastle anywhere long term.

Backing a manager who has proved a world class managerial ceiling when backed is something I could get behind.

It was just a massive opportunity missed and unforgivable that Mike Ashley didn’t let us see a backed Rafa Benitez.

For many fans it was Mike’s last chance to do things right.

When will we next have a manager of Rafa Benitez managerial ceiling?

Mike Ashley destroyed my hope no point going back till he’s gone.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 14 November 2019, 03:21:28 PM
I’d have probably been stupid enough to go back even without Rafa had we made a managerial appointment based on the best possible Head Coach available. Bruce was just a p*ss take and 40k and the media are lapping it up.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Sunday 17 November 2019, 10:44:58 PM
 :lol:

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Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Monday 18 November 2019, 04:12:50 AM
I see Chris Waugh did a piece last week waxing lyrical about the strength in depth across our defence, particularly centre back, but didn't spot the irony that it's all down to Rafa.

It seems like these journo's have been encouraged to remove Rafa from our history and lay all of the credit at Stevie's door.

I find it f***ing amazing how all of the press, and many fans, just move on, just get on with, just look at the situation likes it entirely normal.

It's almost like we never had one of the best coaches in the world at our club........

For all of elite football's politics, economics and its reflections of its communities - NOTHING dictates public perception like results. Pick up 7 or 8 points from 15 and you'll always be right at rain, regardless of whether or not such a return matches expectations/potential and regardless of any glaring deficiencies.

That's why the whole Rafa-Goes-We-Go crack was never going to amount to anything particularly meaningful. You don't need to win many games to secure attendances.

Agree with this. Results are the be all and end all for most. If Steve Bruce finishes in the top 8 with this side then Ashley is vindicated in the eyes of most.

People will stop going only when we're doing poorly on the pitch. If we go down and we're struggling in the championship, then we'll see really low crowds. For now, we're a few points off 5th. Though, as other have said; many have jacked it in already.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 18 November 2019, 07:45:03 AM
:lol:

?s=20

:lol:

Are they going to have the numbers to make it sustainable over here? Reading the comments it looks like the US content is helping it take a hit. Doubt they’re scrimping on wages given some of the journalists who’ve joined up either.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 18 November 2019, 08:14:25 AM
It'll be doomed to failure eventually imo.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 18 November 2019, 09:52:36 AM
They could have surely got someone better than Chris Waugh man.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Gallowgate End on Monday 18 November 2019, 09:53:53 AM
They could have surely got someone better than Chris Waugh man.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 18 November 2019, 03:40:39 PM
It'll be doomed to failure eventually imo.

i signed up for a free month then £30 for a year or something, there just wasn't enough content for me to be bothered even at that price

if i'm paying an NUFC specific journalist to read NUFC stories then i want to see the c*** exposing ashley/charnley etc. i don't want bruce fluff pieces i could get out of the chronicle with an ad blocker
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: tgarve on Monday 18 November 2019, 09:28:25 PM
They could have surely got someone better than Chris Waugh man.

Caulkins there also
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: HTT on Monday 18 November 2019, 11:02:02 PM
Has subscription access based content ever succeeded, outside of film/TV obviously?

I’d rather subscribe to N.O to read posts than subscribe to read some sports journalism from various reporters.

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Greg on Monday 18 November 2019, 11:17:33 PM
Some good stuff in The Athletic, time will tell if they can keep it up. Loved George Caulkin's recent piece with Steve Howey.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 18 November 2019, 11:20:29 PM
Has subscription access based content ever succeeded, outside of film/TV obviously?

I’d rather subscribe to N.O to read posts than subscribe to read some sports journalism from various reporters.



Financial times made a success of it, but guessing their readership is to an audience that can afford to pay.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: HTT on Monday 18 November 2019, 11:40:11 PM
Has subscription access based content ever succeeded, outside of film/TV obviously?

I’d rather subscribe to N.O to read posts than subscribe to read some sports journalism from various reporters.



Financial times made a success of it, but guessing their readership is to an audience that can afford to pay.

I used to pay to subscribe to various webmaster sites/forums back in the day like Sitepoint and Webmasterworld, but only because they were specific to me in terms of educating myself, developing new skills, discussing among peers ideas and such which combined were essential valuable business tools.

I subscribe to various offline print magazines (cars), but again only because they are specific to my niche interests that they cover. As much as I enjoy reading articles by GC and interviews with certain players, I don’t think I’d ever feel compelled enough to pay and subscribe to this website so I can read an interview with Steve Howay or read GC’s thoughts on things at NUFC.

I’m surprised they have successfully managed to get whatever number they have already to subscribe to such a model, but I won’t be surprised if this model quickly fails full stop or becomes a free to access model sooner rather than later.

I’m obviously no expert, but I’d imagine they would make more money operating a free platform and focusing more on video/podcast/vlog content to generate revenues from advertisers and sponsors rather than subscribers.

Either way, if they help to put an end to the likes of the Chronicle and the likes of Lee Ryder, more power to them.

I’ll not be paying to read/watch their content though.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 19 November 2019, 01:02:55 AM
They could have surely got someone better than Chris Waugh man.
well with what they're (probably) paying the other big name journalists on there they had to make cuts somewhere. Just be glad its someone who can pretend to write instead of lee ryder
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 19 November 2019, 02:04:44 AM
They're not making money off their US subscribers so I'm sure it's the same for the UK launch. They be backed by major venture capital funding for a while, possibly less than they thought now the VC is being questioned as a way to build a company.

It's worth it for me personally, but I also follow US sports. If you don't you're only getting Waugh/Caulkin and maybe one or two non-NUFC related articles you're interested in per week.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 19 November 2019, 06:42:22 AM
Has subscription access based content ever succeeded, outside of film/TV obviously?

I’d rather subscribe to N.O to read posts than subscribe to read some sports journalism from various reporters.

NYT, WAPO, Daily Beast, etc.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 19 November 2019, 10:21:15 AM
I didn't buy it for Newcastle stuff, I don't even read that. So much of the other stuff is brilliant.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 19 November 2019, 11:54:08 AM
They're not making money off their US subscribers so I'm sure it's the same for the UK launch. They be backed by major venture capital funding for a while, possibly less than they thought now the VC is being questioned as a way to build a company.

It's worth it for me personally, but I also follow US sports. If you don't you're only getting Waugh/Caulkin and maybe one or two non-NUFC related articles you're interested in per week.
They are owned by Steve Jobs’ widow. They have plenty of money to see them through an new area launches and transition periods until they get it right.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Thursday 21 November 2019, 01:38:13 PM
Brilliant Klopp interview

Jurgen Klopp exclusive: When we start a team meeting the only thing I really know I am going to say is the first sentence

https://theathletic.com/1384977/2019/11/21/jurgen-klopp-exclusive-when-we-start-a-team-meeting-the-only-thing-i-really-know-i-am-going-to-say-is-the-first-sentence/?source=shared-article
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 24 November 2019, 11:11:53 AM
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Sunday 24 November 2019, 11:22:10 AM
Pains me he’s from up here. RTG personified.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 24 November 2019, 11:38:16 AM
What's he even on about? Pissy that he didn't get invited to the good writers' club?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Sunday 24 November 2019, 12:34:31 PM
He's an absolute mess.

Went into full meltdown a while back because he missed a flight. It was glorious.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 25 November 2019, 10:16:43 PM
I see it's down to the fans to deliver a "brutal verdict" because the Chronicle won't call out that rotten mess for what it really was.

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Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 25 November 2019, 10:22:30 PM
Not brave enough to personally account for a negative opinion. Chronicle are completely complicit in Ashleys NUFC. Arseholes.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 25 November 2019, 10:22:51 PM
I see it's down to the fans to deliver a "brutal verdict" because the Chronicle won't call out that rotten mess for what it really was.

?s=20

That man cannot write well.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 5 December 2019, 05:54:07 AM
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If Chris Waugh has bagged an interview with Laurent Robert I take back everything bad I’ve ever said about him.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 5 December 2019, 08:04:31 AM
Wasn't aware of that Pod On The Tyne until I got The Athletic the other day. Much trepidation.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 5 December 2019, 10:36:05 AM
Wasn't aware of that Pod On The Tyne until I got The Athletic the other day. Much trepidation.
It only launched last week tbf.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 5 December 2019, 10:40:06 AM
The Athletic's new pods are pretty good but I refuse to listen to NUFC ones in general. Anything to forget they exist, please :thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 5 December 2019, 12:26:57 PM
It’s probably Pancrate he’s got hold of.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 10 December 2019, 10:02:02 AM
?s=21

Does someone fancy giving an overview of this?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 10 December 2019, 10:34:24 AM
Was gonna have a read at lunch time, will do if no one else has.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 10 December 2019, 10:51:58 AM
?s=21

Does someone fancy giving an overview of this?
You already burned through your free articles, like?

Very brief summary - Bobby was like a father to him. He was happiest whilst playing for NUFC. Souness is a c***. Regretted the Portsmouth move (and Derby). Hasn't been to town for about 7 years and misses it greatly but the club have never asked him back. Very briefly covers both the Anal Oliver incident (I'm assuming he's the journalist in question) and the Bernard KO. :lol:

Nothing revelatory in there, but a good read nonetheless. He'll have his UEFA Pro License by next year as well. A very unlikely candidate.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Tuesday 10 December 2019, 11:37:36 AM
Damn he's aged badly.

Went from looking "would" to looking like he delivers pizza for a takeway in Gateshead.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 10 December 2019, 12:09:15 PM
?s=21

Does someone fancy giving an overview of this?
You already burned through your free articles, like?

Very brief summary - Bobby was like a father to him. He was happiest whilst playing for NUFC. Souness is a c***. Regretted the Portsmouth move (and Derby). Hasn't been to town for about 7 years and misses it greatly but the club have never asked him back. Very briefly covers both the Anal Oliver incident (I'm assuming he's the journalist in question) and the Bernard KO. :lol:

Nothing revelatory in there, but a good read nonetheless. He'll have his UEFA Pro License by next year as well. A very unlikely candidate.

:thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: SteV on Thursday 26 December 2019, 01:22:41 PM
The Athletic have an offer on today only, years subscription for £24.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 26 December 2019, 04:36:48 PM
Desperate.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 26 December 2019, 04:57:32 PM
More offers than DFS.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 26 December 2019, 05:04:50 PM
I got the £24 offer a while back. Fantastic value, like. Brilliant pieces every day.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Strawberry on Thursday 26 December 2019, 08:07:43 PM
They are the best. They worth every penny.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 26 December 2019, 08:36:15 PM
I can’t get away with Chris Waugh. I used the one week trial to read the Robert interview. Cancelled before it ended because I didn’t like his writing style and didn’t think there was enough content.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 26 December 2019, 08:43:27 PM
You're right, like. I thought there'd be more than 4-5 pieces a day, considering that huge hiring haul.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Saturday 4 January 2020, 09:55:47 PM
Genuinely tempted to ring Total Sport or whatever station this moron appears on next - just to call him a thick c*** and be kicked off air.

(If you can't be arsed to read the thread for context, someone is stating Brighton have a style under Potter and we don't under lardhead).

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Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ElDiablo on Saturday 4 January 2020, 09:59:41 PM
Pisses me off that Caulkin is mates with him. The bloke is a f***ing cretin and worse a WUM with it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:04:10 PM
Noshes off Bruce for baccy.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:11:53 PM
Noshes off Bruce for baccy.

Be class if someone still going to games for whatever reason could get that on a banner and take it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:23:45 PM
Luke is a male Katie Hopkins, the Richard Keys of written media, I don't for one second think he believes half of what he says, he's nailed his stance on Bruce to the mast and cannot and will not back down. He's just stirring the pot to create controversy, to be relevant and edgy, he's just a WUM and does it for the likes.

When it all goes tits up he's the one who's going to look like the prat he is.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 4 January 2020, 10:26:08 PM
He's proper rattled is Bruce's Luke.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Anon on Sunday 5 January 2020, 09:50:36 AM
He's just one of those kids at school everyone winds up until they explode and they t*** someone. He has every right to disagree with the fans' takes on things, but his constant bewildered exasperation that the fans liked Rafa and think Bruce is s*** is pretty boring patter. He's a journalist, use your words to convince people.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 5 January 2020, 10:48:04 AM
Can’t stand the journalists telling supporters to calm down. It’s such a disrespectful tone and attitude to have towards supporters of s football club who’ve had been dealt with more crap than good over a lifetime of support.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Sunday 5 January 2020, 10:49:01 AM
Can’t stand the journalists telling supporters to calm down. It’s such a disrespectful tone and attitude to have towards supporters of s football club who’ve had been dealt with more crap than good over a lifetime of support.

 :snod:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Darth Crooks on Sunday 5 January 2020, 12:41:47 PM
Can’t stand the journalists telling supporters to calm down. It’s such a disrespectful tone and attitude to have towards supporters of s football club who’ve had been dealt with more crap than good over a lifetime of support.

Yeah I don’t know what they think gives them the authority.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:12:35 PM
Some are fans, some are not. I know Lee and George actually give a s*** about NE football. Some of the others actually just do this for a living and live in the area, their connection to the club and region revolves around their pay.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:18:42 PM
Can’t stand the journalists telling supporters to calm down. It’s such a disrespectful tone and attitude to have towards supporters of s football club who’ve had been dealt with more crap than good over a lifetime of support.

Said it so many times on here, I like about 3/4 football journalists. The rest are condescending wanks, who’ve never kicked a ball in their life and know next to nothing about the game. They don’t pay to watch the matches but feel like they can dig out fans who’ve put in loads over their lifetime. I will say though I play five a side with Craig Hope occasionally and he’s a sound bloke and class player
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:19:23 PM
Can’t stand the journalists telling supporters to calm down. It’s such a disrespectful tone and attitude to have towards supporters of s football club who’ve had been dealt with more crap than good over a lifetime of support.

Edwards is just a troll with a salary these days. Absolutely abysmal patter.

Feeble as it is, there is a fight against Mike Ashley. And if you're not with the fight, you're against those who are. And everyone who falls into the latter category is a default piece of s***. Edwards flies that flag beautifully.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:32:52 PM
Can’t stand the journalists telling supporters to calm down. It’s such a disrespectful tone and attitude to have towards supporters of s football club who’ve had been dealt with more crap than good over a lifetime of support.

Edwards is just a troll with a salary these days. Absolutely abysmal patter.

Feeble as it is, there is a fight against Mike Ashley. And if you're not with the fight, you're against those who are. And everyone who falls into the latter category is a default piece of s***. Edwards flies that flag beautifully.

I’d love you to tweet that at him
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Sean on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:36:07 PM
Can’t stand the journalists telling supporters to calm down. It’s such a disrespectful tone and attitude to have towards supporters of s football club who’ve had been dealt with more crap than good over a lifetime of support.

Agree. I still maintain thousands of fans bombarding all the Telegraphs channels/contact details with complaints would get quite annoying quite quickly for them.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:36:19 PM
I'm not on Twitter. Fire away, enjoy being blocked.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:38:34 PM
I'm not on Twitter. Fire away, enjoy being blocked.

I already am
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:48:11 PM
:lol: :thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:51:06 PM
:lol: :thup:

:lol:

I don’t think he likes the words journalistic, integrity and compromised in the same sentence.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 5 January 2020, 01:59:44 PM
It's a bit depressing how there are dozens and dozens of excellent writers and fledging journalists out there who would chew their leg off to be in the position of the likes of Edwards and Ryder. I've got a journalism degree but am 'glad' to say I regretted my choice as early as my second year and ended up doing something entirely different; but for those who have a real passion for it, it must be so demoralising seeing chumps like them get the big gigs.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 5 January 2020, 02:04:22 PM
Noa, from here, though I weirdly don’t know his username is a cracking sports journalist in Sweden and a really  good bloke as well. His writing is great.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Sunday 5 January 2020, 02:05:20 PM
Probably comes down to who you know to get gigs like that.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Sunday 5 January 2020, 11:10:38 PM
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Another hard hitting story from Ryder and the boys
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 5 January 2020, 11:25:05 PM
:lol:

"It's outside the ground. The end."
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Sunday 5 January 2020, 11:25:19 PM
The Strawberry is popular with home fans as it sells beer and is located very close to the stadium. [/Look Ma I’m a journalist]
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Greg on Monday 6 January 2020, 12:15:24 AM
It's a worthwhile piece on its history to give more attention to the planning application currently under consideration by NCC for a large new building to effectively wrap around it, but the headline is stupid.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 6 January 2020, 02:08:57 AM
I’ve just mentioned this on the ‘unpopular opinions’ thread, and on SSC.

The Strawberry is a s*** pub.
It doesn’t have any features that are of any note. Anytime I’ve been in (match day and none match day) it has been dirty, sticky tables, glasses not washed properly, dust on fixtures and fittings etc. It doesn’t offer any decent food, and the drinks it offers is the regular s*** you find in social clubs and the supermarket.

It’s only popular due to it’s proximity to SJP, if it wasn’t for this then it would have closed down years ago.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 6 January 2020, 02:15:09 AM
It's a worthwhile piece on its history to give more attention to the planning application currently under consideration by NCC for a large new building to effectively wrap around it, but the headline is stupid.
People are going on as if it’s being knocked down, not that it would be a bad idea in my opinion.
It’s not being knocked down though, in fact the owners of the pub are in favour of the development. In their opinion it will hopefully provide a drinking and eating place for the hundreds on employees being based in the building which would give them some sort of income on a non-match day.
If you look at the article, the pictures show that in the past the pub was surrounded and even connected to other buildings around in the past.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 7 January 2020, 10:03:47 PM
The Chronicle with a full article today on who has increased and decreased in value in the squad according to Transfermarkt. Stealing a living.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 7 January 2020, 10:08:11 PM
The Chronicle with a full article today on who has increased and decreased in value in the squad according to Transfermarkt. Stealing a living.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 8 January 2020, 11:26:34 AM
Good Caulkin article in the Athletic about Boro vs Spurs on Sunday!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Saturday 11 January 2020, 10:13:46 PM
Douglas desperately trying to make out everything is cush on Twitter and peddling more “this time last season” bollocks.

Totally ignoring the fact the football is s**** and we’re just bumbling from one game to the next with no long term goal.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Gallowgate End on Saturday 11 January 2020, 10:42:55 PM
?s=20

You have to laugh :laugh:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: SteV on Saturday 11 January 2020, 10:44:27 PM
Douglas desperately trying to make out everything is cush on Twitter and peddling more “this time last season” bollocks.

Totally ignoring the fact the football is s**** and we’re just bumbling from one game to the next with no long term goal.

I think that’s a very harsh assessment of what he’s said. His last tweet is actually “they’re not out of it by any stretch...”

He’s probably looking at it optimistically, but I think the point he’s trying to make is that there’s often wild overreaction on Twitter, to a couple of good wins or a couple of bad losses. Which is true, although hardly groundbreaking news.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: SteV on Saturday 11 January 2020, 10:47:34 PM
?s=20

You have to laugh :laugh:

Why?

Edit - Ah, you’re probably referring to the response rather than what Douglas said.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Gallowgate End on Saturday 11 January 2020, 11:04:19 PM
?s=20

You have to laugh :laugh:

Why?

Edit - Ah, you’re probably referring to the response rather than what Douglas said.

Both.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Monday 13 January 2020, 03:02:33 PM
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Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Collage on Monday 13 January 2020, 07:08:59 PM
The Strawberry is popular with home fans as it sells beer and is located very close to the stadium. [/Look Ma I’m a journalist]

:lol: :lol:

Principal Skinner is an old man who lives in the school. Lisa?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Big Geordie on Monday 13 January 2020, 07:32:14 PM
Should be named and shamed
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: morla84 on Monday 13 January 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Luka Magnolia would still be on the run if Ryder had been leading the Facebook detective group
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Monday 13 January 2020, 08:41:48 PM
The Strawberry is popular with home fans as it sells beer and is located very close to the stadium. [/Look Ma I’m a journalist]

:lol: :lol:

Principal Skinner is an old man who lives in the school. Lisa?

Lovely reference.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:34:43 AM
Been on to this before here, but it's beyond me that there isn't even more criticism directed towards the local media coverage of NUFC. It's failing everyone and everything. Maybe it's an outside perspective as I'm familiar with other sorts of football journalism in Sweden, more critically orientated and performed in a more open, available media climate, but jesus f***ing christ.

They're not doing journalism. The Chronicle is a content bureau, masquerading as a newspaper. They haven't had one single news story of their own in years now, yet Lee Ryder's job description seems to be detailed towards hunting news. They're not capable of producing one percentage of anything resembling investigative journalism, yet they've had one of the most corrupt and shameful football clubs in Europe in front of their nose for more than twelve years now. Their opinion pieces are apologetic at best, there's no criticism of the actual problem at hand. This mentality serves one purpose, and that is to preserve access and keep good relationships with the people they're covering. But what are they getting back? Nothing. No exclusives, no stories, nothing. Nobody is saying anything interesting to them, nothing is worth reading. So why not switch to actual journalism? Go for them. Get banned, but be honest and do your job.

I mean, they all know what's going on. They know they're not reporting on a real football club, they know it's going nowhere, they know progressing into the 4th round of the FA cup by beating Rochdale isn't a sign of anything, they know all the season tickets were given away because people are walking away from the club, and that it's a sign of desperation. It should be portrayed as such, not as a "nice gesture". f***ing hell. They know Joelinton and most of our other senior players aren't performing because Bruce is grossly incompetent, yet they pretend it's about him and confidence, they pretend the "mood" has been lifted because we managed to overturn a League One club. They're just pretending, and that's not journalism.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:39:27 AM
Beautifully put but I'm not sure who you're referring to with the first paragraph? They're routinely criticised on here, I don't think a single poster would have a good word to say about the Chronicle these days.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:41:42 AM
Perhaps in a concerted non Twitter lone wolf mental way perhaps is meant.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:41:54 AM
Beautifully put but I'm not sure who you're referring to with the first paragraph? They're routinely criticised on here, I don't think a single poster would have a good word to say about the Chronicle these days.

Maybe I'm not on here enough anymore, but this needs to be an aspect reaching outside of this forum, not just to Twitter etc but broader platforms should point finger at them. I'm not sure who exactly though, maybe Football365 or other independent sites. Maybe even other papers. It really is part of the problem.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:59:37 AM
Been on to this before here, but it's beyond me that there isn't even more criticism directed towards the local media coverage of NUFC. It's failing everyone and everything. Maybe it's an outside perspective as I'm familiar with other sorts of football journalism in Sweden, more critically orientated and performed in a more open, available media climate, but jesus f***ing christ.

They're not doing journalism. The Chronicle is a content bureau, masquerading as a newspaper. They haven't had one single news story of their own in years now, yet Lee Ryder's job description seems to be detailed towards hunting news. They're not capable of producing one percentage of anything resembling investigative journalism, yet they've had one of the most corrupt and shameful football clubs in Europe in front of their nose for more than twelve years now. Their opinion pieces are apologetic at best, there's no criticism of the actual problem at hand. This mentality serves one purpose, and that is to preserve access and keep good relationships with the people they're covering. But what are they getting back? Nothing. No exclusives, no stories, nothing. Nobody is saying anything interesting to them, nothing is worth reading. So why not switch to actual journalism? Go for them. Get banned, but be honest and do your job.

I mean, they all know what's going on. They know they're not reporting on a real football club, they know it's going nowhere, they know progressing into the 4th round of the FA cup by beating Rochdale isn't a sign of anything, they know all the season tickets were given away because people are walking away from the club, and that it's a sign of desperation. It should be portrayed as such, not as a "nice gesture". f***ing hell. They know Joelinton and most of our other senior players aren't performing because Bruce is grossly incompetent, yet they pretend it's about him and confidence, they pretend the "mood" has been lifted because we managed to overturn a League One club. They're just pretending, and that's not journalism.

That's absolutely spot on. 

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Go for them. Get banned, but be honest and do your job.

Should be tweeted at every Chronicle 'journalist' in reply to every puff piece article they post.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:04:52 PM
A link to that post should be aimed at them all.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:12:15 PM
Wonder how much ad revenue the parent company gets from Mike Ashley affiliated companies.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:19:09 PM
Chronicle readers -Marry, f***, kill.

Steve Bruce, Charlotte Crosby, The Sayers
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 10:30:28 PM
Been on to this before here, but it's beyond me that there isn't even more criticism directed towards the local media coverage of NUFC. It's failing everyone and everything. Maybe it's an outside perspective as I'm familiar with other sorts of football journalism in Sweden, more critically orientated and performed in a more open, available media climate, but jesus f***ing christ.

They're not doing journalism. The Chronicle is a content bureau, masquerading as a newspaper. They haven't had one single news story of their own in years now, yet Lee Ryder's job description seems to be detailed towards hunting news. They're not capable of producing one percentage of anything resembling investigative journalism, yet they've had one of the most corrupt and shameful football clubs in Europe in front of their nose for more than twelve years now. Their opinion pieces are apologetic at best, there's no criticism of the actual problem at hand. This mentality serves one purpose, and that is to preserve access and keep good relationships with the people they're covering. But what are they getting back? Nothing. No exclusives, no stories, nothing. Nobody is saying anything interesting to them, nothing is worth reading. So why not switch to actual journalism? Go for them. Get banned, but be honest and do your job.

I mean, they all know what's going on. They know they're not reporting on a real football club, they know it's going nowhere, they know progressing into the 4th round of the FA cup by beating Rochdale isn't a sign of anything, they know all the season tickets were given away because people are walking away from the club, and that it's a sign of desperation. It should be portrayed as such, not as a "nice gesture". f***ing hell. They know Joelinton and most of our other senior players aren't performing because Bruce is grossly incompetent, yet they pretend it's about him and confidence, they pretend the "mood" has been lifted because we managed to overturn a League One club. They're just pretending, and that's not journalism.

I know you're a journalist yourself - and you've nailed it. Having worked in local newspapers myself, before a bit of a career change, I 100% agree with you. Given he's chief Newcastle United reporter, Lee Ryder is an embarrassment. He appears incapable of writing anything that isn't just a summary of a match he's watched or involves simply typing up quotes fed to him - without question.

I've worked at a paper, where the reporter covering the local club continually tried to press those at the top about dubious comments/promises they'd made to the fans. He knew he was pissing the club off, but it most definitely didn't stop him and they didn't ban him out of spite, like Ashley has done.

The issue is, they're a small part of a much wider media group. Reach PLC also own the MEN, Liverpool Echo, Birmingham Mail and many others. I'd be interested to see whether clubs in those cities are put under any level of scrutiny too.

It feels like the only scrutiny there'll ever really be - of any club - is from the national press. David Conn is one example.

Given clubs now operate their own media teams and are capable of producing their own written content, social media coverage and videos, they're not as reliant on local press. The local press need the club - to generate clicks and still shift a few hard copies - more than the clubs need them.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 10:34:43 PM
Been on to this before here, but it's beyond me that there isn't even more criticism directed towards the local media coverage of NUFC. It's failing everyone and everything. Maybe it's an outside perspective as I'm familiar with other sorts of football journalism in Sweden, more critically orientated and performed in a more open, available media climate, but jesus f***ing christ.

They're not doing journalism. The Chronicle is a content bureau, masquerading as a newspaper. They haven't had one single news story of their own in years now, yet Lee Ryder's job description seems to be detailed towards hunting news. They're not capable of producing one percentage of anything resembling investigative journalism, yet they've had one of the most corrupt and shameful football clubs in Europe in front of their nose for more than twelve years now. Their opinion pieces are apologetic at best, there's no criticism of the actual problem at hand. This mentality serves one purpose, and that is to preserve access and keep good relationships with the people they're covering. But what are they getting back? Nothing. No exclusives, no stories, nothing. Nobody is saying anything interesting to them, nothing is worth reading. So why not switch to actual journalism? Go for them. Get banned, but be honest and do your job.

I mean, they all know what's going on. They know they're not reporting on a real football club, they know it's going nowhere, they know progressing into the 4th round of the FA cup by beating Rochdale isn't a sign of anything, they know all the season tickets were given away because people are walking away from the club, and that it's a sign of desperation. It should be portrayed as such, not as a "nice gesture". f***ing hell. They know Joelinton and most of our other senior players aren't performing because Bruce is grossly incompetent, yet they pretend it's about him and confidence, they pretend the "mood" has been lifted because we managed to overturn a League One club. They're just pretending, and that's not journalism.

I know you're a journalist yourself - and you've nailed it. Having worked in local newspapers myself, before a bit of a career change, I 100% agree with you. Given he's chief Newcastle United reporter, Lee Ryder is an embarrassment. He appears incapable of writing anything that isn't just a summary of a match he's watched or involves simply typing up quotes fed to him - without question.

I've worked at a paper, where the reporter covering the local club continually tried to press those at the top about dubious comments/promises they'd made to the fans. He knew he was pissing the club off, but it most definitely didn't stop him and they didn't ban him out of spite, like Ashley has done.

The issue is, they're a small part of a much wider media group. Reach PLC also own the MEN, Liverpool Echo, Birmingham Mail and many others. I'd be interested to see whether clubs in those cities are put under any level of scrutiny too.

It feels like the only scrutiny there'll ever really be - of any club - is from the national press. David Conn is one example.

Given clubs now operate their own media teams and are capable of producing their own written content, social media coverage and videos, they're not as reliant on local press. The local press need the club - to generate clicks and still shift a few hard copies - more than the clubs need them.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/voice-echo-liverpool-fc-owners-3423942
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 10:40:09 PM
Been on to this before here, but it's beyond me that there isn't even more criticism directed towards the local media coverage of NUFC. It's failing everyone and everything. Maybe it's an outside perspective as I'm familiar with other sorts of football journalism in Sweden, more critically orientated and performed in a more open, available media climate, but jesus f***ing christ.

They're not doing journalism. The Chronicle is a content bureau, masquerading as a newspaper. They haven't had one single news story of their own in years now, yet Lee Ryder's job description seems to be detailed towards hunting news. They're not capable of producing one percentage of anything resembling investigative journalism, yet they've had one of the most corrupt and shameful football clubs in Europe in front of their nose for more than twelve years now. Their opinion pieces are apologetic at best, there's no criticism of the actual problem at hand. This mentality serves one purpose, and that is to preserve access and keep good relationships with the people they're covering. But what are they getting back? Nothing. No exclusives, no stories, nothing. Nobody is saying anything interesting to them, nothing is worth reading. So why not switch to actual journalism? Go for them. Get banned, but be honest and do your job.

I mean, they all know what's going on. They know they're not reporting on a real football club, they know it's going nowhere, they know progressing into the 4th round of the FA cup by beating Rochdale isn't a sign of anything, they know all the season tickets were given away because people are walking away from the club, and that it's a sign of desperation. It should be portrayed as such, not as a "nice gesture". f***ing hell. They know Joelinton and most of our other senior players aren't performing because Bruce is grossly incompetent, yet they pretend it's about him and confidence, they pretend the "mood" has been lifted because we managed to overturn a League One club. They're just pretending, and that's not journalism.

I know you're a journalist yourself - and you've nailed it. Having worked in local newspapers myself, before a bit of a career change, I 100% agree with you. Given he's chief Newcastle United reporter, Lee Ryder is an embarrassment. He appears incapable of writing anything that isn't just a summary of a match he's watched or involves simply typing up quotes fed to him - without question.

I've worked at a paper, where the reporter covering the local club continually tried to press those at the top about dubious comments/promises they'd made to the fans. He knew he was pissing the club off, but it most definitely didn't stop him and they didn't ban him out of spite, like Ashley has done.

The issue is, they're a small part of a much wider media group. Reach PLC also own the MEN, Liverpool Echo, Birmingham Mail and many others. I'd be interested to see whether clubs in those cities are put under any level of scrutiny too.

It feels like the only scrutiny there'll ever really be - of any club - is from the national press. David Conn is one example.

Given clubs now operate their own media teams and are capable of producing their own written content, social media coverage and videos, they're not as reliant on local press. The local press need the club - to generate clicks and still shift a few hard copies - more than the clubs need them.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/voice-echo-liverpool-fc-owners-3423942

Published just under seven years ago. I'm not so sure you'd see something like that now.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Sunday 19 January 2020, 07:54:27 PM
?s=20

Hate Edwards
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheGuv on Sunday 19 January 2020, 07:59:50 PM
?s=20

Hate Edwards

Does he do it on purpose?

I’m quite looking forward to Douglas, Edwards et al refusing to admit they ever liked Bruce when we go on a 10 match run without a win next season.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Sunday 19 January 2020, 08:00:14 PM
People replying are happy to pin Murphy, Muto et al on Benitez, when it's since been suggested they were picked by Nickson and put to him.

On that basis, we can blame fathead for signing Joelinton and Krafth then. :thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Sunday 19 January 2020, 08:19:34 PM
?s=20

They're determined to gloss over the fact the squad is weaker and the football is absolutely rotten.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Sunday 19 January 2020, 08:32:10 PM
Bruce has had some major good luck as well this season
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Rafalove on Sunday 19 January 2020, 08:43:04 PM
don’t disagree too much with what has been said tbh. That’s not really the point though is it? Bruce is a yes man. He’ll be happy to not have any real say on anything at the club, not being able to take the club forward with his vision. He also probably doesn’t really have much of a vision.

We need a vision, more than anything else. We need long term planning, infrastructural changes. A complete review and change of the club is required. There is literally no one else in the world I would want more to do that job than Rafa Benitez.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Sunday 19 January 2020, 08:46:37 PM
I tried to play devils advocate with Douglas earlier and when I got a reply got straight to the point about Ashley, surprisingly he got quiet. Not an ounce of backbone between them. I had the Ashley conversation with Edwards also, who admitted he was the real issue but again wouldn't elaborate on the issue. Journalism is dead in this country.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Sunday 19 January 2020, 09:04:13 PM
I tried to play devils advocate with Douglas earlier and when I got a reply got straight to the point about Ashley, surprisingly he got quiet. Not an ounce of backbone between them. I had the Ashley conversation with Edwards also, who admitted he was the real issue but again wouldn't elaborate on the issue. Journalism is dead in this country.

Yep. It really pisses me off. We're unlikely to go down so therefore there isn't an issue. None of them, maybe with the exception of Craig Hope and possibly Caulkin, are prepared to continue sticking the boot in where the hierarchy is concerned.

They also fail to see that we're continuing to bounce along from game to game with no real plan in place.

I can't get over the narrative of yesterday's game. We scored a late winner and some of them are going on like it was a well-deserved three points and all is well. If that hadn't gone in, the story should very much have been that while we were happy to get a point, we were absolutely vile offensively.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ScottishMagpie on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:12:02 AM
I tried to play devils advocate with Douglas earlier and when I got a reply got straight to the point about Ashley, surprisingly he got quiet. Not an ounce of backbone between them. I had the Ashley conversation with Edwards also, who admitted he was the real issue but again wouldn't elaborate on the issue. Journalism is dead in this country.

Yep. It really pisses me off. We're unlikely to go down so therefore there isn't an issue. None of them, maybe with the exception of Craig Hope and possibly Caulkin, are prepared to continue sticking the boot in where the hierarchy is concerned.

They also fail to see that we're continuing to bounce along from game to game with no real plan in place.

I can't get over the narrative of yesterday's game. We scored a late winner and some of them are going on like it was a well-deserved three points and all is well. If that hadn't gone in, the story should very much have been that while we were happy to get a point, we were absolutely vile offensively.

Spot on!!  Just finished listening to the TF podcast.  f*** me!   :huff:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 02:17:35 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: This Q&A with Ryder, man.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-news-transfers-live-17609247

Absolute drivel. No insight whatsoever.

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Q: What has happened to Sean Longstaff this season? His form has gone backwards.

LR: Sean sets high standards and will be striving to improve them. We should be patient with Sean though.

He’s a good player with lots of attributes.

Form is temporary, quality is permanent

Thanks Lee :thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 02:18:19 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: This Q&A with Ryder, man.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-news-transfers-live-17609247

Absolute drivel. No insight whatsoever.

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Q: What has happened to Sean Longstaff this season? His form has gone backwards.

LR: Sean sets high standards and will be striving to improve them. We should be patient with Sean though.

He’s a good player with lots of attributes.

Form is temporary, quality is permanent

Thanks Lee :thup:

:spit:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 03:12:27 PM
what i love about the athletic (not on the content) is that you have a genuine dialogue with the writers. I have had a chance to interact with Waugh and Caulkin multiple times and do really enjoy that back & forth with them.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 03:14:54 PM
I really enjoyed your messages to Caulkin the other day
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 03:25:32 PM
I really enjoyed your messages to Caulkin the other day

Hahaha - i got misquoted for the girls aloud one. ffs, made me laugh my ass off. I commented on it, and Waugh apologized.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 03:29:14 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: This Q&A with Ryder, man.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-news-transfers-live-17609247

Absolute drivel. No insight whatsoever.

Quote
Q: What has happened to Sean Longstaff this season? His form has gone backwards.

LR: Sean sets high standards and will be striving to improve them. We should be patient with Sean though.

He’s a good player with lots of attributes.

Form is temporary, quality is permanent

Thanks Lee :thup:

If anything, the quality was temporary. He's not played often enough for the 'class is permanent' spiel :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 03:45:37 PM
what i love about the athletic (not on the content) is that you have a genuine dialogue with the writers. I have had a chance to interact with Waugh and Caulkin multiple times and do really enjoy that back & forth with them.

:thup:

I slagged Waugh off the other day and Caulkin out of nowhere leapt to his defence. Was like being told off by your favourite teacher.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 06:24:46 PM
I really respect Waugh's opinion and his commitment to interacting with the subscribers - we've genuinely had some really good dialogue and PMs on Twitter discussing all things Newcastle on and off the pitch (business side too) and he really tries to thoroughly answer everything. I'm hopeful he's enjoying this gig at Athletic because it's easily the best sports platform I've known in some time. Between the plethora of articles on different teams, tactics, historical events, etc. to the Q&A stuff.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 07:52:23 PM
Meh. If you believe the only topic worth discussing is how to destroy Mike Ashley, you'd have less time for Waugh and Caulkin. Not talking about the day to day, praising Bruce and occasionally saying 'Ashley is s***.'

Sadly it's not realistic so you can't get angry at them for it. They're worlds away from the Chronicle obviously.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Newintoon on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 10:34:16 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/steve-bruce-newcastle-squirming-safety-21338264

This is a great article
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 10:39:39 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/steve-bruce-newcastle-squirming-safety-21338264

This is a great article

"Squirming to safety on the cheap, with ugly smash-and-grabs, unjustly rewards the poverty of ambition which has held the club back throughout Ashley’s tenure."
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 10:40:05 PM
Refreshing to see an article which makes one of the only relevant points. A rare thing these days.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: The Bonk on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 10:46:53 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/steve-bruce-newcastle-squirming-safety-21338264

This is a great article

"Squirming to safety on the cheap, with ugly smash-and-grabs, unjustly rewards the poverty of ambition which has held the club back throughout Ashley’s tenure."

Hasn't put a word wrong in that entire article.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 10:50:26 PM
The Mirror is part of Reach PLC - the same as the Evening Bruceicle.

Bet they don't pick up on those views and put it in their shitty live blog.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Big Geordie on Wednesday 22 January 2020, 11:10:08 PM
It's an excellent piece from The Mirror. Puts our local sycophantic rag to shame.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Thursday 23 January 2020, 01:23:15 AM
Brilliant, hits the nail on the head, more of this please!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 23 January 2020, 05:55:02 AM
Someone gets it, or is at least willing to say so.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Thursday 23 January 2020, 06:59:06 AM
Yep, great article. Nice not to get any Bruce/Ashley propaganda for once.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: John P on Friday 24 January 2020, 01:56:03 PM
Another fantastic article from the away end by Caulkin in The Athletic this week. He really seems to be enjoying the licence to write what he wants, complete with lots of swearing, it's brilliant.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Saturday 25 January 2020, 11:23:26 PM
This guy is PAID to write about sports  ;D

?s=19
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 25 January 2020, 11:38:35 PM
Rory Smith, a top notch football writer, very sassily referred to Luke Edwards as 'one of football's great minds' on the Set Piece Menu podcast the other day, before quoting some ridiculous hogwash he'd tweeted the other day. Was satisfying.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 25 January 2020, 11:52:02 PM
To quote Jennifer Taylor Clarke, North-East journalism just seems like one big boys’ club. All seem pally, and most of them are clueless.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: The Bonk on Sunday 26 January 2020, 01:18:47 AM
To quote Jennifer Taylor Clarke, North-East journalism just seems like one big boys’ club. All seem pally, and most of them are clueless.

Hate to paint Caulkin with that brush. The rest, dump the bucket.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: huss9 on Monday 27 January 2020, 10:25:21 AM
john gibson seems to be the only local-based journo brave/stupid enough to ask the pertinent questions at the moment.

thats what we've come to.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Andymc1 on Monday 27 January 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Another fantastic article from the away end by Caulkin in The Athletic this week. He really seems to be enjoying the licence to write what he wants, complete with lots of swearing, it's brilliant.

Just stumbled across that this morning :thup: Superb stuff as usual from Caulkin.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Saturday 1 February 2020, 10:14:39 PM
Nowt to do with Newcastle but local moron Custis has had another spectacular meltdown this evening. A true embarrassment to his profession and the region.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:06:54 PM
Nowt to do with Newcastle but local moron Custis has had another spectacular meltdown this evening. A true embarrassment to his profession and the region.

Sean or Neil? And what's the craic?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:10:56 PM
Nowt to do with Newcastle but local moron Custis has had another spectacular meltdown this evening. A true embarrassment to his profession and the region.

Sean or Neil? And what's the craic?

Always Neil. He has been crying on about Mediawatch (https://www.football365.com/mediawatch) all week as he got exposed for being utterly s**** and it looks like he’s had a few drinks tonight and lost the plot again, not for the first time.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:17:01 PM
Nowt to do with Newcastle but local moron Custis has had another spectacular meltdown this evening. A true embarrassment to his profession and the region.

Sean or Neil? And what's the craic?

Always Neil. He has been crying on about Mediawatch (https://www.football365.com/mediawatch) all week as he got exposed for being utterly s**** and it looks like he’s had a few drinks tonight and lost the plot again, not for the first time.

:thup: just had a read of hie twitter page. What a throbber.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:23:11 PM
The bloke is barely literate.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:30:02 PM
Give me strength. No wonder Waugh wanted out.


Rest of the thread is an utter carcrash too. Master stroke by the fat man getting them on board.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: The Little Waster on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:37:05 PM
Give me strength. No wonder Waugh wanted out.


Thats a disgraceful quote from Douglas . After 12 years of this s**** to try and defend the regime shows hes bought  n paid for
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mag_in_NZ on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:37:38 PM
Give me strength. No wonder Waugh wanted out.


f*** me! The heed twins (thumb and cabbage) want to make it a successful club, that’s like letting Ted the Tramp do brain surgery.......the outcome isn’t really going to be the best 💁
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:02:16 AM
"See what they're doing with FA Cup" :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:37:12 AM
"See what they're doing with FA Cup" :lol:

2 draws against League 1 opposition. :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:47:09 AM
Like a loving dog when you throw the ball out the back of your hand. Pleased to learn English, fellow slaphead, Lee Charnley has been replaced by a namesake who is pro-success though.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wolfcastle on Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:51:08 AM
Scandalous. Something needs done about this. Its blatant propaganda. Get a rival paper on it or lets get it out there somehow.
Always said - if the Oyston's had the pockets to get the media onside they could have hollowed Blackpool into oblivion to the same sounds were subjected to "trying to sell" "doing well" "fans won't give the Oystons a chance" etc.
As we all know if you have the media onside and controlled you CAN do anything in some countries. Can't be allowed to become the norm here or rich owners can do anything in football or elsewhere. Very dangerous road if this isn't nipped in the bud, exactly why something should be done.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 2 February 2020, 10:05:45 AM
The Chronicle is owned by Reach plc (owners of Mirror Group). As physical newspaper sales are a shadow of what they were their business model will be about hits on their websites. The Chronicle churning out puff pieces and squad news every week will gain them more hits consistently than a critical analysis of Mike Ashley and the club. That would also be biting the hand that feeds them. I don't expect anything from The Chronicle apart from click bait headlines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reach_plc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Reach_plc_titles
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Sunday 2 February 2020, 10:51:46 AM
Give me strength. No wonder Waugh wanted out.


Rest of the thread is an utter carcrash too. Master stroke by the fat man getting them on board.

“Oooooh Stephen! Your hands are so soft! w*** me off next please!!!”
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:02:54 AM
Craig Hope. Brilliant. People mention Caulkin but I think he’s the best at the minute.

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Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: mickthemagpie on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:04:54 AM
He was excellent, Henry Winter on the other hand............
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: triggs on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:18:30 AM
Bang on, and well put as well
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Big Geordie on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:21:08 AM
Can't disagree at all with Craig Hope, there. :thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Groundhog63 on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:40:19 AM
Can't disagree at all with Craig Hope, there. :thup:

"believe your eyes"           
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:41:44 AM
He was excellent, Henry Winter on the other hand............

Not watched that vid yet but he plummeted in my estimations quite recently. Summat about England and Southgate; was like he was willing is to slip up against Panama.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tiresias on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:45:25 AM
Craig Hope. Brilliant. People mention Caulkin but I think he’s the best at the minute.

?s=21

Absolutely bang on
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: STM on Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:55:50 AM
Spot on from Craig Hope. My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:12:18 PM
Bang on from Hope that.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: kingxlnc on Sunday 2 February 2020, 01:01:45 PM
"It's the Hope that kills you..."

Quite literally in this case!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 2 February 2020, 09:32:29 PM
Think Cox can sometimes come across a bit arrogant but I agree with a lot of what he says and find him really interesting to listen to on podcasts. This seems to have gained quite a few Twitter reactions

?s=19
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 2 February 2020, 09:34:29 PM
I agree with that, although his responses are shallow.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: midds on Sunday 2 February 2020, 09:36:42 PM
I agree with that.

So do I. But how do you define it? That’s the issue.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 2 February 2020, 09:44:02 PM
No attempt to play the ball.

It happens to Almiron and ASM pretty much every game
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Sunday 2 February 2020, 09:45:50 PM
Not for me, Clive.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 2 February 2020, 09:53:40 PM
Not for me, Clive.

Absolutely knew you would be against it
  You love a good south American s*** housery of a player
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Sunday 2 February 2020, 09:57:17 PM
I do but it’s nowt to do with that. It’s too big a punishment for a relatively standard offence. Laws should be designed to keep XI players on the field as much as possible like how they changed the last man one not so long back. It’s also highly subjective, how close do you need to be to the ball etc.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: jdckelly on Sunday 2 February 2020, 10:01:10 PM
yeah I honestly think thats a stupid idea
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 2 February 2020, 10:39:42 PM
Yeah I don't go along with that at all. Tactical fouls are a t***'s move but the punishment is proportionate. Clear goalscoring opportunity, red, owt else, yellow. Sfair enough iyam.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 2 February 2020, 10:55:28 PM
sin bins would be a decent options for situations such as this.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 2 February 2020, 10:58:11 PM
Think Cox can sometimes come across a bit arrogant but I agree with a lot of what he says and find him really interesting to listen to on podcasts. This seems to have gained quite a few Twitter reactions

?s=19

How do you define it though? I agree though the ones where players just get hacked with zero intention to try and win the ball back,they should be red
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: tgarve on Monday 3 February 2020, 03:05:38 AM
I do but it’s nowt to do with that. It’s too big a punishment for a relatively standard offence. Laws should be designed to keep XI players on the field as much as possible like how they changed the last man one not so long back. It’s also highly subjective, how close do you need to be to the ball etc.

Hate the double jeopardy rule
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wolfcastle on Monday 3 February 2020, 09:32:58 PM
Corrupted Ashley apologist Samuel has gotten stuck into West Ham's owners in the paper today. Wonder why? Not nice when its your own club i guess but perfectly fine somewhere else.
They've had a £240million net spend, he says, since they took over but the "football is rotten" so a fans revolt is justified.
Dear me.  Imagine having that for 13years, a fraction of the net spend, not trying to move forward and an indefinite future of the same ahead.
This guy is pathetic and pathetic at his job. Sullivan and Gold have missed a trick. For the right price he'd turn a blind eye and even condone whatever grievance they have, if there is one beyond being frationally worse than their 40year average on the field.

*mackems would have you believe there's no such thing as net spend and were the only ones that mention it. Apart from that I wanted to rip the thing up and choke him on it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Monday 3 February 2020, 11:21:48 PM
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 3 February 2020, 11:23:21 PM
He's the absolute pits of journalism. Hate him so much.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 3 February 2020, 11:23:46 PM
He's on another planet, that lad.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Big Geordie on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 12:15:27 AM
That's laughable from Edwards. Almost implying that we should be grateful for avoiding relegation every season!

Prick
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 12:27:40 AM
I wish someone would physically put him down because he’s an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 12:33:18 AM

I haven’t seen unhinged trolling of such high quality since the leaked JFK phone call.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: STM on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 08:31:04 AM
Yes, Steve Bruce's relegation scrap is exactly the same as SBR finishing 5th. Exactly. I mean christ, what a comparison.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 08:54:29 AM

I haven’t seen unhinged trolling of such high quality since the leaked JFK phone call.

Jesus Christ, that’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen. Absolute mess of a human being.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 08:55:23 AM
Presumably it's just doing the Talksport thing at this point?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 08:59:06 AM
Just contrary opinions to get reaction I guess, yeah. That and a natural affiliation (parasitic relationship) with the club.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 09:13:36 AM
Corrupted Ashley apologist Samuel has gotten stuck into West Ham's owners in the paper today. Wonder why? Not nice when its your own club i guess but perfectly fine somewhere else.
They've had a £240million net spend, he says, since they took over but the "football is rotten" so a fans revolt is justified.
Dear me.  Imagine having that for 13years, a fraction of the net spend, not trying to move forward and an indefinite future of the same ahead.
This guy is pathetic and pathetic at his job. Sullivan and Gold have missed a trick. For the right price he'd turn a blind eye and even condone whatever grievance they have, if there is one beyond being frationally worse than their 40year average on the field.

*mackems would have you believe there's no such thing as net spend and were the only ones that mention it. Apart from that I wanted to rip the thing up and choke him on it.
difference is I suppose Gold and Sullivan sold west hams home and moved to the soulless olympic stadium with the promise of champions league competing for trophys etc and where are they?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: John P on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 09:27:38 AM

What an annoying prick this guy is. Aside from making absolutely ludicrous comparisons and writing utter rubbish, the way he speaks and responds to people on Twitter is incredibly condescending and patronising.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 09:44:03 AM
Luke Edwards does admit he just does it to get a reaction from people. He has completely gone off the rails since last summer even before Bruce was linked with the job.

The only journalists I have time for now are George Caulkin and Craig Hope.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:00:33 AM
Just ignore him them. He works for a hard-right trolling outlet, it's not hard. I can't imagine many in the NE postcode are ardent Telegraph readers.

The Brucicle lads are way worse IMO.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:02:12 AM
Read a cracking article about Leeds class of '93 and their comparison with the Man Utd class of '92.

Basically, Howard Wilkinson > Alex Ferguson. Where Fergie got rid of Kanchelskis, Ince etc to allow the younger generation to thrive, Wilkinson brought in Brian Deane and Nigel Worthington. The rest is history.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wolfcastle on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 02:29:44 PM
Corrupted Ashley apologist Samuel has gotten stuck into West Ham's owners in the paper today. Wonder why? Not nice when its your own club i guess but perfectly fine somewhere else.
They've had a £240million net spend, he says, since they took over but the "football is rotten" so a fans revolt is justified.
Dear me.  Imagine having that for 13years, a fraction of the net spend, not trying to move forward and an indefinite future of the same ahead.
This guy is pathetic and pathetic at his job. Sullivan and Gold have missed a trick. For the right price he'd turn a blind eye and even condone whatever grievance they have, if there is one beyond being frationally worse than their 40year average on the field.

*mackems would have you believe there's no such thing as net spend and were the only ones that mention it. Apart from that I wanted to rip the thing up and choke him on it.
difference is I suppose Gold and Sullivan sold west hams home and moved to the soulless olympic stadium with the promise of champions league competing for trophys etc and where are they?

They're around where they usually are and the moving to a bigger stadium was obviously an attempt to grow the club and move it forward.
If they stayed at limited capacity Upton Park they couldn't do that. Man City did the same exact thing for the same exact reasons. It doesn't always work out and every new stadium is soulless but they tried. Its the promise everybody has when moving to a new ground and its never panned out. mackems, boro, Millwall, Darlington, Spurs are no better now than before, Southampton are no better. Doesn't mean its the wrong thing to do.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Boo Boy on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 03:05:50 PM
Corrupted Ashley apologist Samuel has gotten stuck into West Ham's owners in the paper today. Wonder why? Not nice when its your own club i guess but perfectly fine somewhere else.
They've had a £240million net spend, he says, since they took over but the "football is rotten" so a fans revolt is justified.
Dear me.  Imagine having that for 13years, a fraction of the net spend, not trying to move forward and an indefinite future of the same ahead.
This guy is pathetic and pathetic at his job. Sullivan and Gold have missed a trick. For the right price he'd turn a blind eye and even condone whatever grievance they have, if there is one beyond being frationally worse than their 40year average on the field.

*mackems would have you believe there's no such thing as net spend and were the only ones that mention it. Apart from that I wanted to rip the thing up and choke him on it.
difference is I suppose Gold and Sullivan sold west hams home and moved to the soulless olympic stadium with the promise of champions league competing for trophys etc and where are they?

They're around where they usually are and the moving to a bigger stadium was obviously an attempt to grow the club and move it forward.
If they stayed at limited capacity Upton Park they couldn't do that. Man City did the same exact thing for the same exact reasons. It doesn't always work out and every new stadium is soulless but they tried. Its the promise everybody has when moving to a new ground and its never panned out. mackems, boro, Millwall, Darlington, Spurs are no better now than before, Southampton are no better. Doesn't mean its the wrong thing to do.

it is the wrong thing to do. same when we nearly moved to leazes park
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 03:19:17 PM
Corrupted Ashley apologist Samuel has gotten stuck into West Ham's owners in the paper today. Wonder why? Not nice when its your own club i guess but perfectly fine somewhere else.
They've had a £240million net spend, he says, since they took over but the "football is rotten" so a fans revolt is justified.
Dear me.  Imagine having that for 13years, a fraction of the net spend, not trying to move forward and an indefinite future of the same ahead.
This guy is pathetic and pathetic at his job. Sullivan and Gold have missed a trick. For the right price he'd turn a blind eye and even condone whatever grievance they have, if there is one beyond being frationally worse than their 40year average on the field.

*mackems would have you believe there's no such thing as net spend and were the only ones that mention it. Apart from that I wanted to rip the thing up and choke him on it.
difference is I suppose Gold and Sullivan sold west hams home and moved to the soulless olympic stadium with the promise of champions league competing for trophys etc and where are they?

They're around where they usually are and the moving to a bigger stadium was obviously an attempt to grow the club and move it forward.
If they stayed at limited capacity Upton Park they couldn't do that. Man City did the same exact thing for the same exact reasons. It doesn't always work out and every new stadium is soulless but they tried. Its the promise everybody has when moving to a new ground and its never panned out. mackems, boro, Millwall, Darlington, Spurs are no better now than before, Southampton are no better. Doesn't mean its the wrong thing to do.

it is the wrong thing to do. same when we nearly moved to leazes park

Seems to have worked out quite well for Spurs. Cracking atmosphere there on Sunday.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 03:30:13 PM
Spurs is right in Tottenham at the exact same site, seems a great move. Obviously West Ham is bad because it's a different town and a bad stadium.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 03:33:02 PM
it helps that new white hart lane is basically where the old one was and was designed from the start for football, the olympic stadium is a hybrid athletic's stadium/converted to football stadium that Gold and Sullivan jumped on because it was a very cheap way of getting a 60k stadium and be able to sell off Upton Park for a decent chunk of cash
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 05:42:49 PM
Let off a bit of steam to Luke Edwards on one of his Tweets. I probably come across as a bit of a cock but I feel better for it. :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:00:12 PM
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Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: geordie_b on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:12:43 PM
He should be getting stuck into his mate Edwards whilst watching this s****
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 6 February 2020, 07:07:09 PM
Found myself half agreeing with Mark Douglas here...crikey.

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Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Paully on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 09:31:28 AM
Next Big Thing: Liverpool’s new £50m training complex has been designed with input from Edwards, Inglethorpe, Klopp and Henderson

https://theathletic.com/1584555/2020/02/11/liverpool-training-complex-kirkby-next-big-thing/?source=shared-article
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 02:05:46 PM
Gorgeous facility
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 02:13:28 PM
Found myself half agreeing with Mark Douglas here...crikey.

?s=21

Not that surprising since he's just saying what quite a few, including you have been saying from pretty much August. :lol:

I mean tbf, Douglas is one of the better local journalists IMO, but even he tends to chop and change his opinion after a couple of seemingly good results.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 03:02:15 PM
Next Big Thing: Liverpool’s new £50m training complex has been designed with input from Edwards, Inglethorpe, Klopp and Henderson

https://theathletic.com/1584555/2020/02/11/liverpool-training-complex-kirkby-next-big-thing/?source=shared-article

The Athletic is well worth the subscription, some fantastic content on there.

Also just looking at the plans for that facility, we're so far behind it's unreal.  :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 03:21:27 PM
Next Big Thing: Liverpool’s new £50m training complex has been designed with input from Edwards, Inglethorpe, Klopp and Henderson

https://theathletic.com/1584555/2020/02/11/liverpool-training-complex-kirkby-next-big-thing/?source=shared-article

The Athletic is well worth the subscription, some fantastic content on there.

Also just looking at the plans for that facility, we're so far behind it's unreal.  :lol:


The gym in our office building that has a $10 per month fee to use is better than the NUFC gym.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: mickthemagpie on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 03:40:48 PM
Presumably the Leicester City one will be twice as good as it's costing twice as much-

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746 (https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746)

It's all very depressing :(
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Jinky Jim on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 03:51:34 PM
Presumably the Leicester City one will be twice as good as it's costing twice as much-

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746 (https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746)

It's all very depressing :(

It’s just down the road from me.....it’s a former 18 hole golf course. They’ve managed to keep some of the holes and therefore a 9 hole golf course after training for the players.....What do we have...a plastic pool and wheelie bins for their entertainment.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 04:05:00 PM
I like that Liverpool are good with a 50m and Leicester are dropping 100m :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: B-more Mag on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 04:06:03 PM
Presumably the Leicester City one will be twice as good as it's costing twice as much-

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746 (https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746)

It's all very depressing :(

It’s just down the road from me.....it’s a former 18 hole golf course. They’ve managed to keep some of the holes and therefore a 9 hole golf course after training for the players.....What do we have...a plastic pool and wheelie bins for their entertainment.

Borehole!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 04:45:38 PM
Presumably the Leicester City one will be twice as good as it's costing twice as much-

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746 (https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/drone-footage-shows-progress-leicester-3412746)

It's all very depressing :(

Leicester aren't even traditionally a football city, at least not in my lifetime. It's just incredible how our local press have managed to connive with Ashley to sleepwalk us into oblivion.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 04:54:58 PM
God knows how they've spent 100M on a training ground and 100M on players over the summer.

Like Charnley once told The Chronicle:

Quote
“It is about priorities.

“There is a pot of money. Where is the greater need? At this time it’s on field.

“It’s not unreasonable, the pot of money can only go so far.

“You go and spend it on the training ground it means there is less to spend on the team.

“Spend it on the Academy, there is less to spend on the team.

“Spend too much on wages, there’s less to spend on the team.

“That doesn’t mean we don’t spend in all those areas, because we do, but our view has been at this point in time the priority is what goes on to the field.”

“It doesn’t mean we don’t want to update the training ground.

“Does it mean at some point in time we would like to update the training ground? Absolutely, yes.

“It is about priorities. It doesn’t stop us doing what we need to do on a daily basis.
“Our pitches are very good, our gym is perfectly adequate and functional.

“Do we have a swimming pool or water facilities? No.

“Would we like to have it at some stage? Absolutely.”

They need to sort their priorities.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 05:18:04 PM
What an ambitious vision Charnley projects to the fanbase and competition  :lol:

So small time
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 05:49:21 PM
our adequate and functional football team is lucking its way to safety creating the sum total of f*** all each match; but nah carry on Lee.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 06:04:10 PM
Such a patronising, disingenuous little lickspittle.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 06:04:34 PM
Kanji I mean, not Charnley.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 06:10:36 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 07:45:21 PM
This is Leicester's new training ground. Even Bournemouth have plans in place to build a state of the art training ground. Newcastle are so far behind.

?s=20
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 07:58:26 PM
Nah, it doesn't matter man!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 08:05:30 PM
f*** that......................... give me sufficient and perfectly adequate any day of the week
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 08:08:05 PM
Charnley's saying that the club don't spend money on a new training ground or upgrading current facilities in order to prioritise first team squad signings is just another excuse from the club. Remember a few years ago when the club went three transfer windows in a row without making a permanent signing, what were the priorities then?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Friday 14 February 2020, 02:54:41 PM
Special report in The Independent investigating the financial disparity in football and how it has destroyed the unpredictability of the sport

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html

“We don’t want too many Leicester Citys.”

These were the words spoken by a senior figure from the Premier League’s ‘big six’ clubs, in the kind of high-end London hotel you can easily imagine.

 “A more democratic league would be bad for business.”
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Wullie on Friday 14 February 2020, 02:59:58 PM
It's a really good piece.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Conjo on Friday 14 February 2020, 03:24:39 PM
A part of me wish they just made an exclusive super league so we can start to watch a more fair and balanced Premier League. Maybe I'm giving the general football fan base too much credit these days, but I'd like to think that the super league would fail massively.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Friday 14 February 2020, 04:27:21 PM
Follow up article: -

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-super-clubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9334826.html
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 14 February 2020, 05:06:47 PM
Special report in The Independent investigating the financial disparity in football and how it has destroyed the unpredictability of the sport

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html

“We don’t want too many Leicester Citys.”

These were the words spoken by a senior figure from the Premier League’s ‘big six’ clubs, in the kind of high-end London hotel you can easily imagine.

 “A more democratic league would be bad for business.”

I wish the ‘big 6’ would f*** off with Real Madrid, Barcelona etc like.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Friday 14 February 2020, 05:48:16 PM
fantastic article and thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: tgarve on Saturday 15 February 2020, 11:47:01 AM
A part of me wish they just made an exclusive super league so we can start to watch a more fair and balanced Premier League. Maybe I'm giving the general football fan base too much credit these days, but I'd like to think that the super league would fail massively.

I don’t think it would and the prem would then become the equivalent of the championship
Any talent would go to the super league teams and the games would be a dirge of talent
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 16 February 2020, 01:13:56 PM
Special report in The Independent investigating the financial disparity in football and how it has destroyed the unpredictability of the sport

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html

“We don’t want too many Leicester Citys.”

These were the words spoken by a senior figure from the Premier League’s ‘big six’ clubs, in the kind of high-end London hotel you can easily imagine.

 “A more democratic league would be bad for business.”

Follow up article: -

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-super-clubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9334826.html

I've not listened to it yet, but there's an Independent podcast as a sort of accompaniment to these pieces.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRon on Sunday 16 February 2020, 02:31:38 PM
A part of me wish they just made an exclusive super league so we can start to watch a more fair and balanced Premier League. Maybe I'm giving the general football fan base too much credit these days, but I'd like to think that the super league would fail massively.

I don’t think it would and the prem would then become the equivalent of the championship
Any talent would go to the super league teams and the games would be a dirge of talent

We watch a dirge of talent every week, don't see how it could be a negative for us.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 16 February 2020, 02:47:44 PM
Special report in The Independent investigating the financial disparity in football and how it has destroyed the unpredictability of the sport

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html

“We don’t want too many Leicester Citys.”

These were the words spoken by a senior figure from the Premier League’s ‘big six’ clubs, in the kind of high-end London hotel you can easily imagine.

 “A more democratic league would be bad for business.”

Follow up article: -

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-super-clubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9334826.html

I've not listened to it yet, but there's an Independent podcast as a sort of accompaniment to these pieces.

... features a disappointing dollop of point-missing when it comes to our wanting rid of Ashley.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Monday 17 February 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Pro Bruce press aka the “calm down collective” as I’ll call them from now on are f***ing disgraceful. You can’t be a journalist of any sport and be as disrespectful to the actual fans themselves and tell them what they can and can’t feel. Some of these journalists support other teams and they have the f***ing backbone to tell us that we’re wrong and they are right and we should be letting Bruce get on with it for now.

No. f*** off.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Sean on Monday 17 February 2020, 09:55:10 PM
Pro Bruce Ashley press aka the “calm down collective” as I’ll call them from now on are f***ing disgraceful. You can’t be a journalist of any sport and be as disrespectful to the actual fans themselves and tell them what they can and can’t feel. Some of these journalists support other teams and they have the f***ing backbone to tell us that we’re wrong and they are right and we should be letting  Bruce Ashley get on with it for now.

No. f*** off.

Think that's where the anger should be directed. Bruce just deserves laughter. And he should be allowed to 'get on with it'.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 18 February 2020, 09:29:32 PM
Douglas crying on Twitter randomly.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 18 February 2020, 10:23:20 PM
Douglas crying on Twitter randomly.

lol his tweet about lejeune and schar, f***ing kill me.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 18 February 2020, 11:02:55 PM
What’s he saying? I’m blocked.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 18 February 2020, 11:11:22 PM
What’s he saying? I’m blocked.

On the running of the club...

“Ashley doesn't do interviews but when I've spoken to Lee Charnley (not recently) I've asked those questions. The answers seem to elicit as much anger towards us as not speaking to him!”

“But if you look mate, there's a string of @s aimed at me and others - as if the suffering of the football club is something to do with the Chronicle or me. I promise you, I want the club to win and be successful. I have no love for Ashley whatsoever and have written that”

On CBs...

“Lejeune doesn't look right, I don't think. I think he doesn't fancy Schar personally...”

On Joelinton...

“I'm not in as many presser as I used to be so can't tell you if he has directly but there has been loads of questions about his position. I think it's one to ask again. Apparently the Joelinton scouting reports all said he was not a central striker.”

On the books...

“Interesting one, this. I've been told NUFC Trust are working with the club on this, hence we've not followed it up. I'll check progress. Annual accounts aren't far off btw”

Soft and complicit as f***. That’s before the Bruce stuff.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 18 February 2020, 11:27:43 PM
:thup:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 12:04:16 AM
I can remember at the start of the season when Charnley was interviewed by that lot and he promised to communicate more with the fanbase.

Of course, nothing since then  :lol:

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Rafalove on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 12:32:56 AM
Wasn’t it rumoured they decided not to publish a story that would have looked bad so they could get that exclusive too?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 04:34:54 PM
Wonderful piece about Atalanta's Champion's League journey


"In their maiden Champions League campaign, they became the first team since Newcastle United in 2002-03 to progress from the competition's group phase after losing their first three matches"

"Whatever happens, everybody will love this team forever."
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 04:37:59 PM
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: BirtleyMag on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 05:24:38 PM
Wasn’t it rumoured they decided not to publish a story that would have looked bad so they could get that exclusive too?

Think this is what you’re referring to. Whether or not it was true or not is up for debate. Just looks like another fake ITK account to me.

?s=21
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 05:37:13 PM
Wouldn’t someone else just publish them?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 05:54:01 PM
ah, the black cloud :lol: those were the days
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mag_in_NZ on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 07:48:45 PM
Wasn’t it rumoured they decided not to publish a story that would have looked bad so they could get that exclusive too?

Think this is what you’re referring to. Whether or not it was true or not is up for debate. Just looks like another fake ITK account to me.

?s=21

Truth, lies, ITK or not the chronic are nothing more than the PR arm of SDFC and should be treated as such, they are fed what the club wants in the general populace.....Ryder today “there’s no bid on the table” ..... like the lackey would know this....

I would respect them more if they just came out and admitted this, the days of them investigating went a long time ago
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 07:51:49 PM
Not sure if they really count as journalists in the traditional sense. Suppose they do attend press conferences, but I bet you could do their job from anywhere in the world with absolutely no access to the club. It’s pants.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 08:00:44 PM
It’s just specifically related content these days. If they wanted the club could easily do it far better in house and have them closed.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 11:51:31 PM
?s=19

Worthy of a read, full thread on link
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Disco on Thursday 20 February 2020, 10:24:46 AM
Just read the Rondon Athletic piece in the Steve Bruce Chronicle. Fans rightly calling the Venezuelan out. If he loved the club so much why didn't he play for free?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Rafalove on Thursday 20 February 2020, 10:51:08 AM
They’re not really saying that are they?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: John P on Thursday 20 February 2020, 11:11:34 AM
Just read the Rondon Athletic piece in the Steve Bruce Chronicle. Fans rightly calling the Venezuelan out. If he loved the club so much why didn't he play for free?

Good article. Sounds like he absolutely loved it here and was desperate to stay. Shame he's an OAP.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: HTT on Thursday 20 February 2020, 03:57:40 PM
Just read the Rondon Athletic piece in the Steve Bruce Chronicle. Fans rightly calling the Venezuelan out. If he loved the club so much why didn't he play for free?

He’s Mexican man.

Worse than Lee Ryder FFS!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 20 February 2020, 04:08:14 PM
Just read the Rondon Athletic piece in the Steve Bruce Chronicle. Fans rightly calling the Venezuelan out. If he loved the club so much why didn't he play for free?

He’s Mexican man.

Worse than Lee Ryder FFS!

Think it might be time to let this one go :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: HTT on Thursday 20 February 2020, 04:09:41 PM
Just read the Rondon Athletic piece in the Steve Bruce Chronicle. Fans rightly calling the Venezuelan out. If he loved the club so much why didn't he play for free?

He’s Mexican man.

Worse than Lee Ryder FFS!

Think it might be time to let this one go :lol:

Never!
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Rafalove on Friday 21 February 2020, 11:12:01 AM
https://youtu.be/mwSL2ReHTEw
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Bimpy474 on Friday 21 February 2020, 11:22:16 AM
Just read the Rondon Athletic piece in the Steve Bruce Chronicle. Fans rightly calling the Venezuelan out. If he loved the club so much why didn't he play for free?

He’s Mexican man.

Worse than Lee Ryder FFS!

Think it might be time to let this one go :lol:

Never!

Not getting involved in this one.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Friday 21 February 2020, 11:29:55 AM
https://youtu.be/mwSL2ReHTEw

Mugs.

Could have saved themselves some money and just sacked Klopp, brought in Gerrard and re signed Robbie Fowler.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Saturday 22 February 2020, 07:35:01 AM
Also, much cheaper just to have council bins full of rainwater than a heated pool. Idiots.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 22 February 2020, 09:41:48 AM
?s=21

:lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Darth Crooks on Saturday 22 February 2020, 09:51:21 AM
Next up John talks moisturisers and anti aging creams...
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: geordie john on Saturday 22 February 2020, 10:14:57 AM
On press coverage and the Chronicle in particular, I really don't understand how we all put up with their s***. Blatantly doing everything not to upset MA, printing garbage stories, complete works of fiction designed to appease the 'faithful' who will go to every game irrespective of the s*** being served up.

When the Sun printed those lies about Liverpool, the local population not only refused to buy it, but made sure that everyone else knew it was utter lies. The Sun was never (and is still not) the same again.

Why can't we do this to the Chronicle?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TBG on Saturday 22 February 2020, 11:20:53 AM
How else will I know what the Sayers are up to and what past and present Geordie Shore cast members have to say on current political and topical matters?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Saturday 22 February 2020, 11:54:51 AM
How else would I find out how Ian W saves less than £1 per year?
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Collage on Saturday 22 February 2020, 04:11:14 PM
?s=21

:spit:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mike on Saturday 22 February 2020, 04:13:19 PM
?s=21

:lol:

God in Heaven.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: chopey on Sunday 23 February 2020, 04:12:18 AM
?s=20

He's lost it
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: adam on Sunday 23 February 2020, 05:02:42 AM
?s=20

He's lost it

The constant online confrontations really aren't worth being a NE journalist. They must make what, $35k at the most? Id rather be a sparky.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Pandamninator on Sunday 23 February 2020, 05:14:31 AM
?s=20

He's lost it

For someone who constantly posted 4 times  week how they aren't bothered what people say about him, he does seem to get some hot and bothered in the replies alot.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tribesman on Sunday 23 February 2020, 09:30:18 AM
Journalists like Mark Douglas can f*** off jumping on the bandwagon when its now convenient for journalists to feed off the negativity for clicks on articles. Fans have been saying for months that performances did not reflect results and it was just a matter of time before the wheels came off yet it was dismissed as being overly negative and not giving Bruce the credit he deserved.

The only journalist that comes out with any credit this season is Craig Hope. He had Bruce figured out from the first match this season and didn't spout the Bruce is a "nice guy" line as if it means anything.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 23 February 2020, 09:33:44 AM
:thup:

Also, even though bugger all has changed in terms of performances but results are now being reflected in them, I see the Soccer Saturday lot have moved on from, ‘look at how well Bruce is doing’ to blaming the players rather than Bruce.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tribesman on Sunday 23 February 2020, 09:44:38 AM
Its typical media coverage when it comes to pfms like Bruce.

Give them all the credit when things go well. Shift the blame to everyone and everything when things go badly.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 23 February 2020, 11:14:36 AM
Has anyone got a link to the Caulkin article I think it was before Christmas where he was talking about getting results despite performances? I can’t find it.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Tribesman on Sunday 23 February 2020, 11:57:52 AM
Lee Ryder for f*** sake.  :lol:

Invalid Tweet ID?s=20
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Sunday 23 February 2020, 12:28:09 PM
Run, kick, tackle, run - 6/10

We are pathetic :lol:
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TRon on Sunday 23 February 2020, 02:33:43 PM
?s=20

He's lost it

The constant online confrontations really aren't worth being a NE journalist. They must make what, $35k at the most? Id rather be a sparky.

The problem isn't the confrontations, it's that he's wrong. If he was right, he would be telling us about it 4 times a day never mind 4 times a week. If you're a sparky, you would be expected to know your stuff about electrics. 35k still 35k too much if you are a football journalist publishing horseshit.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: LV on Sunday 23 February 2020, 02:41:37 PM
?s=20

He's lost it

The constant online confrontations really aren't worth being a NE journalist. They must make what, $35k at the most? Id rather be a sparky.

The problem isn't the confrontations, it's that he's wrong. If he was right, he would be telling us about it 4 times a day never mind 4 times a week. If you're a sparky, you would be expected to know your stuff about electrics. 35k still 35k too much if you are a football journalist publishing horseshit.

:thup: absolutely this.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 23 February 2020, 02:42:48 PM
?s=20

He's lost it

The constant online confrontations really aren't worth being a NE journalist. They must make what, $35k at the most? Id rather be a sparky.

The problem isn't the confrontations, it's that he's wrong. If he was right, he would be telling us about it 4 times a day never mind 4 times a week. If you're a sparky, you would be expected to know your stuff about electrics. 35k still 35k too much if you are a football journalist publishing horseshit.

We've fitted an electric oven with 1mm twin core, and because the house hasn''t burned down it was obviously the right decision. "What the f*** have people been doing, wasting 2.5mm all these years?"

Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: The Little Waster on Sunday 23 February 2020, 02:52:08 PM
Passive aggressive . Now that Brucieball has run aground on the rocks of reality Luke doesnt want to play anymore but he still gets a dig in .
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Mattoon on Sunday 23 February 2020, 03:55:15 PM
He'll keep his head down and ignore all the tweets until we manage to scrape a draw or fluke a win and then it'll all come rising back to the top. He's an imbecile.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 25 February 2020, 01:06:03 PM
The Evening Bruceicle are exhausting their contacts book again. Comments from John Lickylips urging fans to be careful what they wish for re: a takeover.

Personally think they need to ask the Sayers family - or Barnesy - just to get some fresh perspective.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 25 February 2020, 01:09:48 PM
There’s very little news in football, and a lot of papers and social media to fill/sell.

They should really be part time and just do match reports.
Title: Re: NCJ/The Athletic/General Press Coverage
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Tuesday 25 February 2020, 05:53:47 PM
Where did it all go wrong for Deportivo La Coruña?

Twenty years after winning La Liga, the club are battling to avoid relegation to the third tier. How did it come to this?


https://www.theguardian.com/football/copa90/2020/feb/25/deportivo-la-coruna-la-liga-wrong-spain?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1582651401