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Title: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 3 August 2019, 04:59:58 PM
Too soon.

I know.

That strike though. Surely getting some minutes this year. What a pre-season for him and what a time for him and his family!
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:01:00 PM
Glad Shortstaff has become a thing . He's had a good pre season.
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Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:01:33 PM
Has he has any loan time?
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Post by: Sho'Time on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:02:09 PM
Has he scored? Livescore only seems to say Sean Longstaff has scored.
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Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:04:25 PM
Get him out on loan asap.
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Post by: loki679 on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:05:12 PM
Just as a point of order I think the thread titles should be just 'longstaff' and 'shortstaff'. No need for first names.
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Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:06:15 PM
Get him out on a big money transfer asap.
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Post by: taxfree on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:06:26 PM
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Post by: marki on Saturday 3 August 2019, 06:05:26 PM
             40 million bid incoming
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Post by: 1964 on Saturday 3 August 2019, 06:08:53 PM
Let's get the longstaff parents on a breeding programme, Mike will provide some romance via a couple of happy meals and a couple of hours in a travelodge
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Post by: TRon on Saturday 3 August 2019, 06:09:16 PM
Didn't even know Longstaff had a brother before pre-season, but turns out he is really highly rated by the staff.
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Post by: madras on Saturday 3 August 2019, 06:13:21 PM
Didn't even know Longstaff had a brother before pre-season, but turns out he is really highly rated by the staff.
Higher rated throughout his time here, I know that doesnt count for much at that age and level, was supposed to more crafted and technical than his brother who was more of a workhorse with a decent long range shot.

Would be great for them both to come through and fulfill their potential as locals coming through the ranks
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 3 August 2019, 06:18:40 PM
Would he be the first player born in the 21st century to play for us if he makes a competitive appearance?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 3 August 2019, 07:18:46 PM
Let's get the longstaff parents on a breeding programme, Mike will provide some romance via a couple of happy meals and a couple of hours in a travelodge
:lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 3 August 2019, 07:44:07 PM
Let's get the longstaff parents on a breeding programme, Mike will provide some romance via a couple of happy meals and a couple of hours in a travelodge

Brave New World
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Anderson on Saturday 3 August 2019, 07:44:22 PM
Would he be the first player born in the 21st century to play for us if he makes a competitive appearance?

Obafemi Martins.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: LV on Saturday 3 August 2019, 07:54:01 PM
Would he be the first player born in the 21st century to play for us if he makes a competitive appearance?

Obafemi Martins.

:lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 3 August 2019, 07:57:46 PM
He was the only player to play in 3 different centuries.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TBG on Saturday 3 August 2019, 08:36:03 PM
Matty and Sean to lift the 2022 World Cup. Our generations Charlton brothers mark my words.
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Post by: KaKa on Saturday 3 August 2019, 08:42:58 PM
Man, imagine how thrilled their folks must be with how things are coming together for them both. Fantastic for them.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Doc on Saturday 3 August 2019, 08:49:18 PM
Didn't even know Longstaff had a brother before pre-season, but turns out he is really highly rated by the staff.

Long or Short?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: covmag on Sunday 4 August 2019, 09:58:08 AM
I assumed it was the 50 million pounds man who scored.

 :cool:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Danh1 on Sunday 4 August 2019, 10:05:04 AM
Wasn’t their fatha a professional ice hockey player? Sure he used to post on Skunkers actually.

Some family.

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Post by: jack j on Sunday 4 August 2019, 10:14:45 AM
Fatha played ice hockey very high standard
There uncle is Alan Thompson pro footballer
There other uncle posted on skunkers

The toughest of the 3 is definitely posting on skunkers
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: KaKa on Sunday 4 August 2019, 11:50:00 AM
Ah, looks like it runs in the family then. Interesting.

Where did their dad play hockey out of interest?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Nobody on Sunday 4 August 2019, 12:12:55 PM
Ah, looks like it runs in the family then. Interesting.

Where did their dad play hockey out of interest?
Know he played for Djurgården (:anguish:) in Sweden for a bit. Know someone who knew him back then.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Greg on Sunday 4 August 2019, 01:35:32 PM
Ah, looks like it runs in the family then. Interesting.

Where did their dad play hockey out of interest?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Longstaff
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Pons Alias on Sunday 4 August 2019, 01:44:22 PM
s***, their Dad is younger than me (just)
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Post by: KaKa on Sunday 4 August 2019, 01:48:07 PM
Wow, that's fascinating. Didn't even realise there was an active Ice Hockey league in the UK. Pretty cool.

Always been amazed by what they can do on the ice, and most of those guys are big dudes too.

I mean going off Wiki, even their dad was 6 ft 2 and 225 pounds. That's a powerful build.

Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Nobody on Sunday 4 August 2019, 02:38:45 PM
Was it Bigstaff that squared it to him for the goal?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 4 August 2019, 03:19:53 PM
Was it Bigstaff that squared it to him for the goal?
Yep. Some ridiculousness from jetro and then ASM  both taking the p*ss on the ball before too.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Tyne81 on Monday 5 August 2019, 10:47:53 AM
Aren't they really good cricketers as well? Surely they must have some obese sibling who eats crayons and chases  dogs to restore equilibrium.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Monday 5 August 2019, 10:56:27 AM
Should go out on loan.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Monday 5 August 2019, 11:01:08 AM
Ah, looks like it runs in the family then. Interesting.

Where did their dad play hockey out of interest?
Know he played for Djurgården (:anguish:) in Sweden for a bit. Know someone who knew him back then.
Djurgården!😲🤢🤮

Well, the kids turned out well anyway...😉😄
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: loki679 on Monday 5 August 2019, 11:14:42 AM
Aren't they really good cricketers as well? Surely they must have some obese sibling who eats crayons and chases  dogs to restore equilibrium.

(https://www.newcastle-online.org/forum/avs/avatar_9365_1559774345.png)
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: sleazy on Monday 5 August 2019, 01:18:43 PM
yeah his Dad is a bit of a ledge on the hockey scene. Was a big part of Newcastle Vipers success. Nice guy too.
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Post by: covmag on Monday 5 August 2019, 02:14:35 PM
Shortstaff  :lol:
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Post by: nemtizz on Tuesday 6 August 2019, 11:36:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzT1uGFIu9Y

Why does Matty Longstaff sound like Kevin de Bruyne at 2:01
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Dunce on Saturday 10 August 2019, 08:17:01 PM
One of few bright spots at the club is this lad.
I think hes going to be the next paul scholes.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: duo on Saturday 10 August 2019, 08:27:54 PM
One of few bright spots at the club is this lad.
I think hes going to be the next paul scholes.
Ney pressure then...
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 10 August 2019, 08:59:19 PM
Aren't they really good cricketers as well? Surely they must have some obese sibling who eats crayons and chases  dogs to restore equilibrium.

(https://www.newcastle-online.org/forum/avs/avatar_9365_1559774345.png)
Longstiff?
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Post by: Pilko on Saturday 10 August 2019, 09:01:50 PM
One of few bright spots at the club is this lad.
I think hes going to be the next paul scholes.

Guaranteed 19 goals a season then as he'll score every f***ing time he plays at SJP.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 10 August 2019, 09:20:12 PM
One of few bright spots at the club is this lad.
I think hes going to be the next paul scholes.

The next Carrick & Scholes. Being on the title.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Dunce on Saturday 10 August 2019, 09:22:05 PM
Bring on the 150mill more like  :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 10 August 2019, 09:27:13 PM
We'll get more than 150m for their dad man
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Dunce on Saturday 10 August 2019, 09:28:32 PM
We'll get more than 150m for their dad man
Stud fees  :lol:
Title: Matty Longstaff
Post by: HawK on Sunday 6 October 2019, 05:06:05 PM
Nice long-range effort from the lad, some decent long-range passes too. Looks hungry, world apart from the Shelvey of recent at any rate.
Title: Re: Matty Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Sunday 6 October 2019, 05:09:02 PM
Nice long-range effort from the lad, some decent long-range passes too. Looks hungry, world apart from the Shelvey of recent at any rate.
https://www.newcastle-online.org/forum/index.php?topic=103129.msg7051861#msg7051861
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: HawK on Sunday 6 October 2019, 05:11:38 PM
Cheers :thup:
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Post by: NEEJ on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:07:49 PM
Strike!
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Post by: TRon on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:11:04 PM
Hopefully that will be the last time we have to watch Shelvey strolling around in front of the back four.
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Post by: La Parka on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:11:46 PM
Str8 like a banana
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Post by: hakka on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:11:46 PM
Doesn't look out of place, think he's done enough to show he can play in middle with this brother. Good strike for the goal, and great effort in first half too.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: duo on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:14:27 PM
Doesn't look out of place, think he's done enough to show he can play in middle with this brother. Good strike for the goal, and great effort in first half too.
^This
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:25:38 PM
That's what it's about. Loved it.
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Post by: David Edgar on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:25:48 PM
What a hit by the lad.  Some talent there.
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Post by: DJ_NUFC on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:27:52 PM
What a full debut but this lad, did really well, the small things and the big. I haven't seen a smile that big at St. James' in a long time.
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Post by: morla84 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:28:40 PM
Gonna buy mr and mrs longstaff some oysters and put some Barry white on for them
 :pedro: :pedro: :pedro:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: nemtizz on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:34:11 PM
That's what it's about. Loved it.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: morla84 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:35:48 PM
Love it how everyone likes to pick him up :lol:
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Post by: Wilson on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:40:23 PM
:aww:

Ray of light in an absolute shitstorm c*** of a mess.
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Post by: jdckelly on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:42:08 PM
:aww: great to see their family must be over the moon
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Post by: duo on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:46:04 PM
Never seen pundits big up a Newcastle player in a long long time.
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Post by: Andy on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:56:21 PM
Even ignoring the goal, he was very good today tbf. Good range of passing and a lot of energy in the middle. Certainly seems to be able to strike the ball too.
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:02:55 PM
I'm a bit detached now but even I couldn't stop smiling during that interview. Lush story :aww:
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Post by: Kanji on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:04:09 PM
No nerves. Doesn’t shy from ball or situation. His strikes on goal were never snatched either. Fearless player. Wonderful debut and may he stay fit and keep it going.
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Post by: Conjo on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:04:29 PM
Very impressed. Happy for him and his family.
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Post by: La Parka on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:07:52 PM
Bravery 20.
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Post by: Kanji on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:08:53 PM
:lol:
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Post by: Big Geordie on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:14:12 PM
Along with hit brother, this should be our centre-midfield pairing for the next 10+ years. He was terrific today and looks a real, real player. :thup:

Ashley will be seeing the £££ signs again.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: morla84 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 08:31:11 PM
First player born this millennium to score for us. Born when I was sitting my GCSE's 🤦‍♂️
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Post by: toontownman on Sunday 6 October 2019, 08:35:34 PM
Some errant passes and inexperienced moments, which should be expected but on the whole a hell of a debut. The energy was needed and really Bruce at last roll of the dice played a blinder playing up to the fans today with the team selection. It paid off.

Potentially such a great pairing with his brother. Very different players that compliment each other. Hopefully both can continue to grow and cement those places in the middle.
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Post by: Chicane on Sunday 6 October 2019, 08:40:36 PM
Must've been an amazing day for these two and their family :thup:
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Post by: nemtizz on Sunday 6 October 2019, 08:54:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTye9_WM8wM

:aww:
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Post by: Ian W on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:09:40 PM
That’s really nice like, can’t deny it.
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Post by: Sima on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:13:36 PM
Chuffed for them both.  Longstaff has been out of sorts so far this season but there looks to have been a marked improvement with Shortstaff as a partner.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:17:28 PM
Will surely spur Sean on. As much as he’ll be chuffed for him, last thing he’ll want is his kid brother taking his place in the team.
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Post by: Wilson on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:19:58 PM
First player born this millennium to score for us. Born when I was sitting my GCSE's 🤦‍♂️

Year after I took mine... Cheers for that.
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Post by: t00nraider on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:31:50 PM
Will surely spur Sean on. As much as he’ll be chuffed for him, last thing he’ll want is his kid brother taking his place in the team.

If it's a squad choice including Hayden, Shelvey and Ki, I don't think he's got too much to worry about.
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Post by: Toon No9 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:32:22 PM
Great game today by the Longstaff's!
Hopefully they can be our central midfield pairing for a long time now.
Hayden must be third choice after this!

...and Shelvey no way near the team.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: ikri on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:38:13 PM
Chuffed for them both.  Longstaff has been out of sorts so far this season but there looks to have been a marked improvement with Shortstaff as a partner.

It's almost as if they have some kind of natural, almost brotherly, understanding between them.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: La Parka on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:40:54 PM
The genuine emotion of the celebration was amazing. That's f***ing football.
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Post by: stlouismag on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Thrilled for them, and a lovely video. Just a couple of years older than my kids.
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Post by: Consortium of one on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:42:32 PM
A huge bright spot in a morose season.
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Post by: CPL on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:43:47 PM
What a heart warming interview, might be the only thing that keeps me interested this season. He was raw in some instances where he gave the ball away cheaply but what a way to make your full debut!
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Post by: Tsunami on Sunday 6 October 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Amazing stuff today; 2 young local lads winning the midfield battle against Man U with the younger scoring the winner on debut. Comic book material, you really have to hope the best for them, it’s hard not to be absolutely buzzing for them.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 10:00:46 PM
Matty reminds me a lot of Paul Scholes in the way he play.

Good positioning.
Good passer of the ball, both long and short.
Good shot.
Good tackler.
Good vision.
Seems to often make good decisions.
Good workrate.

Still very early days of course but looks to have all it takes to make it.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 6 October 2019, 10:01:50 PM
?s=21
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Post by: The Prophet on Sunday 6 October 2019, 10:34:01 PM
Even goal aside, he was very impressive today.
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Post by: D. Yimentov on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:16:34 PM
"Who's this ginger kid?"
                    - Steve Bruce
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Post by: Zero on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:28:26 PM
I know he could strike the ball very well, I just don’t know he could do it in his debut against Man Utd.

Great game. Hope to see him in Man Utd shirt together with Sean soon.
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Post by: Cronky on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:33:29 PM
Matty reminds me a lot of Paul Scholes in the way he play.

Good positioning.
Good passer of the ball, both long and short.
Good shot.
Good tackler.
Good vision.
Seems to often make good decisions.
Good workrate.

Still very early days of course but looks to have all it takes to make it.

Good comparison, apart from the tackling. Scholes couldn't tackle, but it never stopped him from having a go.

I suspect that tackling isn't Matty's strong point either, but we can't complain when the other parts of his game look so good.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:34:43 PM
Let's not get carried away.  Jamie McLean and Brian Kerr would have walks around man utd today tbh.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:38:21 PM
He was fantastic today and as someone else said, despite how detached I am from the club I found the interview lush and so pleased for the pair of them.

And then to negate it, Bruce sounded like an old man after 7 pints talking s*** about the match in the pub in his MOTD interview "this ginger kid, really good" etc. Feel for the pair of them working under this mong.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Charlies on Monday 7 October 2019, 12:47:53 AM
?s=20
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Post by: Gallowgate End on Monday 7 October 2019, 12:53:29 AM
Made me laugh how Gary Neville said that yesterday was what’s been missing in the last few years under Rafa Benitez seeing a young Geordie lad get his chance and score for Newcastle.

Pretty sure I saw Sean Longstaff get a chance in the team last season and score :laugh:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: huss9 on Monday 7 October 2019, 01:25:05 AM
his tackling and getting stuck in really impressed today. really needed that as the midfield has been a bit power-puff this season.
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Post by: Anderson on Monday 7 October 2019, 02:17:03 AM
Just watched their interview together again. :aww: :aww: :aww:

Mad how Sean comes across as a seasoned pro now too, less than 12 months after his own debut.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: tgarve on Monday 7 October 2019, 04:11:23 AM
As much as we have been terrible this season that was an amazing and quite heart wrenching performance. Hopefully they both keep it up
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Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 7 October 2019, 06:08:57 AM
Delighted for the lad.

This situation gets more and more like the late 80s every week. Remember when we had Gascoigne and Stevenson, maintaining the interest. Then we sold Gassa.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 7 October 2019, 08:09:10 AM
Interview was class like.
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Post by: neesy111 on Monday 7 October 2019, 09:25:06 AM
Yeah, that interview is superb.
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Post by: HTT on Monday 7 October 2019, 09:29:34 AM
Watched that interview as it come up on a mate’s feed. Class and that’s what it’s all about or should be for young home grown lads and indeed young kids full stop. Saw the goal as well, nice sweet hit strike. Delighted for them and happy to see them continue to prosper. I know people who know the family and they are are a good bunch. Matty looks about 14 bless him. Managed to watch a clip of the Sky Sports pundits talking about it as well and they all seemed genuinely moved by their performance, the moment and their interview. Lovely stuff.
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Post by: Disco on Monday 7 October 2019, 10:13:46 AM
Must've felt like a dream when he got up this morning. Chuffed for him and for Sean on recovering his form.
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Post by: Froggy on Monday 7 October 2019, 10:14:07 AM
Hard not to be happy for this wee w*****.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 7 October 2019, 12:09:14 PM
He did fantastic, during the first half an hour he looked a bit nervous but once he settled in he looked like he's been there all his life, really well taken goal too.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 October 2019, 05:01:26 PM
I'm Back. I blame Matty! Genuine happiness from a local young lad. What a debut from him  :smitten:
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Post by: huss9 on Monday 7 October 2019, 07:11:57 PM
lovely to see how pleased his teamates were for him. that bit where Krafth came over to celebrate with him was lush.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 7 October 2019, 07:16:26 PM
lovely to see how pleased his teamates were for him. that bit where Krafth came over to celebrate with him was lush.

Aye it was, although it's a shame he was even on the pitch to be celebrating.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: chopey on Monday 7 October 2019, 08:44:43 PM
wonderful

?s=20
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 October 2019, 08:50:27 PM
"Who's this ginger kid?"
                    - Steve Bruce

He thought he handed Jack Colback a start.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Mr Logic on Monday 7 October 2019, 08:51:41 PM
Worth opening a sweep on which Longstaff will be sold first? (Ashley's a c***)
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Collage on Monday 7 October 2019, 08:54:56 PM
Love that interview. Still have a feeling Sean is gonna be great.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: 1964 on Monday 7 October 2019, 09:01:52 PM
I don't think either has a tattoo which gives them extra cred for me
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Post by: Fugazi on Monday 7 October 2019, 09:34:23 PM
Saw them both in Lola's in Tynemouth after his goal against St. Etienne, both came across as proper sound. A credit to North Tyneside.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Pilko on Monday 7 October 2019, 09:34:37 PM
Contract is up at the end of the season. Probably was in line to be the next Cal Roberts as recently as 3 months ago.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 7 October 2019, 10:29:27 PM
Contract is up at the end of the season. Probably was in line to be the next Cal Roberts as recently as 3 months ago.

Steady on, scoring on his first start for the first team wasn't enough to save Cal so lets not get too overboard yet :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: James on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 07:03:07 AM
He’ll get a contract soon.

As an aside there was a very odd attack on Juan Mata by Lee Ryder framed against those good Longstaff boys.

Apparently they can be found helping their dad tidy up after ice hockey training. You won’t find Mata doing that apparently.

Very true as in midweek evenings you will find Mata out on Deansgate in Manchester, helping his dad tidy up his restaurant.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 08:23:02 AM
Mata is one of the most charitable footballers going too
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: mickthemagpie on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 08:29:09 AM
Well it's come as a real shock to me to find out Ryder is a dickhead.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 08:48:49 AM
Mata is one of the most charitable footballers going too

Thought that was well known. He always seems sound in interviews too.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 09:06:38 AM
Where's this from Ryder? It IS well known that Mata is one of the good guys.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: James on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 09:52:57 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/matty-longstaff-sean-transform-newcastle-17042670.amp

Quote
They still help dad David carry the kit into the ice rink for Whitley Warriors, something you couldn't see Mata or Marcus Rashford doing any time soon.[\quote]

Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 04:52:52 PM
:lol: completely needless by Ryder, with 0 context.

If the Longstaff brothers played football in London they'd not be able to help their father. Just mention they are humble lads who help their family out, showing a nice example of how still grounded and close they are to their old man.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 05:23:03 PM
You just know at no point during the writing of that did he stop and read it back and think, 'You know what, that applies to 80% of Newcastle's squad'. It was get it wrote and move on to interviewing Matty's school dinner nanny on if he had custard with his pudding so he can hit his target of at least three articles on Matty every day this week

Absolute thick as Beren's shoes that bloke.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: nemtizz on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 05:24:31 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/matty-longstaff-sean-transform-newcastle-17042670.amp

They still help dad David carry the kit into the ice rink for Whitley Warriors, something you couldn't see Mata or Marcus Rashford doing any time soon.

Mata is one of the nicest, most genuine professionals around. So f***ing weird.

Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 05:30:10 PM
Ryder is a strange man
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Mr Logic on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 07:28:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMbXcuqQFpQ

These two lads are pretty infectious in their enthusiasm and hapiness. Difficult for me to take being a miserable old git but I always end up smiling along with them.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 09:41:47 PM
The laugh when they say they aim for Chamions League this season :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: nemtizz on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 11:36:39 PM
Think these lads will make me want us to win again.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 10 October 2019, 12:04:14 AM
I like them but I can’t like the club.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 10 October 2019, 01:54:13 AM
I like them but I can’t like the club.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: morla84 on Thursday 10 October 2019, 06:23:08 AM
Canny bairns 👍
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: chopey on Thursday 10 October 2019, 06:31:22 AM
I like them but I can’t like the club.

The sad thing is I reckon 90% of Newcastle fans would rather see local lads come through the system and play for Newcastle than spend £500,000 a week on someone like Pogba.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 10 October 2019, 08:03:02 AM
I like them but I can’t like the club.

The sad thing is I reckon 90% of Newcastle fans would rather see local lads come through the system and play for Newcastle than spend £500,000 a week on someone like Pogba.

Poor example. If you gave me the choice of playing Sean or paying £90m and £500k a week for Pogba, I'd take Sean Longstaff purely for cost-effectiveness vs difference in ability. Although obviously Pogba is the far superior player on paper, he absolutely could not justify an output of £210m (his fee+5yr contract) as just one player vs say £13m over 5 years (£0 transfer and 50kp/w) for Longstaff.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: chopey on Thursday 10 October 2019, 08:13:32 AM
Poor example that you more eloquently described and agree with
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 10 October 2019, 09:47:03 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 10 October 2019, 08:07:47 PM
Think these lads will make me want us to win again.

same feeling, man
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Thursday 10 October 2019, 09:56:47 PM
The laugh when they say they aim for Chamions League this season :lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Johneddy on Friday 11 October 2019, 12:23:16 AM
The laugh when they say they aim for Chamions League this season :lol:

:lol:

There's a Chelsea trio that will bring the Longstaff lovers firmly back to earth...good but not great as we struggle against sheer pace next match
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Wilson on Friday 11 October 2019, 06:55:36 AM
:anguish:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Cronky on Friday 11 October 2019, 07:58:36 AM
Does anyone know what happened in that incident with him and Fred? All you could see on the box was Fred on the floor, then Fred and McTominay having a bit of a go at Matty.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Tsunami on Friday 11 October 2019, 09:10:59 AM
Does anyone know what happened in that incident with him and Fred? All you could see on the box was Fred on the floor, then Fred and McTominay having a bit of a go at Matty.

Fred was trying to intimidate him following a challenge, Matty went chest to chest and Fred took a dive. Fred must rank amongst the worst transfers for some time, he may operate ok in a good team with loads of time, possession and creative players beside him but in that Man U team he may as well be called Jack.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 11 October 2019, 12:22:47 PM
I like them but I can’t like the club.

The sad thing is I reckon 90% of Newcastle fans would rather see local lads come through the system and play for Newcastle than spend £500,000 a week on someone like Pogba.

I wouldn't like. Splashing the cash on top class players is great.

We are playing these because we haven't invested in our central midfield with class in 4 years. 2 from a relegation fodder Swansea, Diame a yo-yo midfielder type who has gone now and a lad that couldn't make it at Arsenal.

The Longstaff's have bailed us out. I'm not sure how much either was intended to be introduced into the first team and it's been great to see. But it's mostly down to having dire options in midfield.

If we sold or released the other lads, i'm not sure any would get regular time at other PL clubs. It's only our first choice CBs, GK, maybe one or two of the new signings. But our CMs or RWBs - not a chance imo.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Friday 11 October 2019, 02:56:06 PM
Poor example that you more eloquently described and agree with

 :lol: Oops. That misunderstanding was quite fitting of the morning I had.

Not quite sure why it's a "sad thing" though?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: chopey on Friday 11 October 2019, 04:43:17 PM
Its just sad that Ashley could run the club on a budget with the right people in charge and the place could take off.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: chopey on Saturday 12 October 2019, 07:52:04 AM
£850 a week with his contract running out in the summer, not sure how busy Charnley is over the next few weeks but I suggest he gets on this
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 12 October 2019, 10:21:29 AM
This is always the problem every time they plead poverty and every time an idiot suggests Ashley is doing as much as he can. You can do a lot better on the budget we've had. Case in point, our players performance under Rafa was consistently better, the sell on value of our players coached by him would be higher which would more than offset whatever salary demands he has and also buying more players. The idea that Ashley spends what he earns doesnt take into account he sells cheaply often and then panic spends often in january, which isn't where there is any value. This is what looking purely at money in and out misses not that that isn't damning enough.

Wouldn't surprise me if we fail to offer him a contract just by accident or something
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Paully on Friday 18 October 2019, 06:56:27 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7585207/How-Newcastle-brothers-Sean-Matty-Longstaff-talk-Toon.html
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Friday 18 October 2019, 03:07:42 PM
Would be great if we could sign long term deals for the Longstaff brothers and Woodman and re-sign young Gibson from Everton.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 18 October 2019, 03:30:20 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7585207/How-Newcastle-brothers-Sean-Matty-Longstaff-talk-Toon.html

Just love reading this type of stuff, what a tremendous story. Also love the Tampa Bay Lightning hats they have on!
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:02:16 PM
He's great when we have the ball, like his brother doesn't usually waste much. But think he's not quick enough to close players down when we aren't in possession.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:03:09 PM
He was poor, looks well below Sean's level.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:05:26 PM
He was poor, looks well below Sean's level.

Sean's not quick either, but his long legs give him a decent stride which means you don't feel that on the pitch.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Penn on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:05:52 PM
Sean is clearly significantly more gifted. Matty will have a Colback-esque career (which sounds inflammatory at this point but is inevitable).
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Greg on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:06:16 PM
He was poor, looks well below Sean's level.

Yet created our best chance other than goal. Some nice passing today but a few mistakes. Going to happen. Great prospect.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:07:54 PM
He was poor, looks well below Sean's level.

Yet created our best chance other than goal. Some nice passing today but a few mistakes. Going to happen. Great prospect.

Seemed a bit panicky on the ball, hasn't got Sean's composure.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:10:55 PM
Sean is clearly significantly more gifted. Matty will have a Colback-esque career (which sounds inflammatory at this point but is inevitable).

He's a lot more positive than Colback and he doesn't hide from the ball. But physique wise, yes he will have the same limitations.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:12:37 PM
People comparing him to Cackback because of the colour of his hair! :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: NUFC on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:20:23 PM
Tbf neither Longstaff look like they will good enough to have a long PL career, both probably end up in the FL, fans always get carried away with the hype of young players after one or two decent appearances
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Sunday 27 October 2019, 04:24:02 PM
People comparing him to Cackback because of the colour of his hair! :lol:

His stature to be more accurate. But yes he has ginger hair as well.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 05:13:29 AM
Only room for one Longstaff in a first XI like. It’s a very similar dynamic to Colback & Anita. They’re pretty much the same player. Needs someone who can move the ball quickly and forward alongside one of them.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 28 October 2019, 08:01:23 AM
TBH, with the loss of Schar, I thought he might have rested Shortstuff for Shelvey.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Cf on Monday 28 October 2019, 08:12:51 AM
TBH, with the loss of Schar, I thought he might have rested Shortstuff for Shelvey.

As if bruce is even thinking about this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Conjo on Monday 28 October 2019, 08:46:24 AM
Both Longstaffs had this annoying habit this weekend of passing the ball backwards when they received the ball with their back to goal even though they had time to turn around and look for more positive options.

Besides that, and one awful pass by Matty in transition that could have lead to a good opportunity, I didn't see much wrong with either of their performances. Matty is clearly the pressing one while Sean is covering. Both did well imo with some really nice play a couple of times. Sean has struggled with the tempo of matches so far this season but felt he had a bit more spark about him, a bit more rapid more like what we saw last season so I hope it has just been a matter of getting back to form after his injury.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 28 October 2019, 10:28:46 AM
The poor lad is going to get destroyed by Bruce. He shouldn't be starting every game and be eased in and nurtured, not have a useless manager hoying you out there hoping he save his job single handed. He doesn't stand a chance.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 09:46:46 PM
The poor lad is going to get destroyed by Bruce. He shouldn't be starting every game and be eased in and nurtured, not have a useless manager hoying you out there hoping he save his job single handed. He doesn't stand a chance.

His brother has probably ensured he gets another 3 games anyway.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 02:39:55 PM
@Optimistic Nut they are definitely not similar players at all. Very different styles.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 02:52:54 PM
I think they are pretty similar players, but I also think they should work well in Rafas system since they seem to be decent all-rounders, being able to support an attack, play a killer pass, have a decent shot in them, press the ball and fall back. As long as they have a good understanding of covering each other I don't see what the issue with them being similar is.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 05:18:33 PM
I think they are pretty similar players, but I also think they should work well in Rafas system since they seem to be decent all-rounders, being able to support an attack, play a killer pass, have a decent shot in them, press the ball and fall back. As long as they have a good understanding of covering each other I don't see what the issue with them being similar is.

They aren't similar in stature as I mentioned before. That does make a difference in covering the ground, especially when pressing the ball which you have mentioned there. With Matty being smaller and having a shorter stride, he would need to be a bit quicker to make him an effective presser of the ball IMO. I think he has the same problem Colback did in this regard, for the same reasons. Better suited to us sitting deep, but that means he's not going to be getting forward as much to support the strikers.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 05:31:42 PM
Actually tried to watch the game at the weekend as the 5 year old was excited for the Liverpool match (how sad is that by the way) and from what I saw of the two brothers they are both neat and tidy, can mix it up physically, and obviously have talent, but there is not much attacking creativity between the two and any midfield needs that, it’s what Liverpool lacks and they are a great team. I feel they are the kind of players whose games will be better nurtured under someone like a Rafa tactically than under Bruce who will have them just putting a shift in which will see that they develop more into hard working neat and tidy clogger type players than anything else. There needs to be some attacking creativity in there (central midfield) and neither have that kind of instinct for me. Early days and it’s good they are getting games together and looking at least capable at this level, although this level can only really be considered standard wise based on the level of the team/position etc.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Pata on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 06:30:20 PM
Actually tried to watch the game at the weekend as the 5 year old was excited for the Liverpool match (how sad is that by the way) and from what I saw of the two brothers they are both neat and tidy, can mix it up physically, and obviously have talent, but there is not much attacking creativity between the two and any midfield needs that, it’s what Liverpool lacks and they are a great team. I feel they are the kind of players whose games will be better nurtured under someone like a Rafa tactically than under Bruce who will have them just putting a shift in which will see that they develop more into hard working neat and tidy clogger type players than anything else. There needs to be some attacking creativity in there (central midfield) and neither have that kind of instinct for me. Early days and it’s good they are getting games together and looking at least capable at this level, although this level can only really be considered standard wise based on the level of the team/position etc.

This is a bold take.

I've been happy with their attacking/creating play in any case, both can play a killer pass.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 06:37:45 PM
Actually tried to watch the game at the weekend as the 5 year old was excited for the Liverpool match (how sad is that by the way) and from what I saw of the two brothers they are both neat and tidy, can mix it up physically, and obviously have talent, but there is not much attacking creativity between the two and any midfield needs that, it’s what Liverpool lacks and they are a great team. I feel they are the kind of players whose games will be better nurtured under someone like a Rafa tactically than under Bruce who will have them just putting a shift in which will see that they develop more into hard working neat and tidy clogger type players than anything else. There needs to be some attacking creativity in there (central midfield) and neither have that kind of instinct for me. Early days and it’s good they are getting games together and looking at least capable at this level, although this level can only really be considered standard wise based on the level of the team/position etc.

This is a bold take.

I've been happy with their attacking/creating play in any case, both can play a killer pass.

They can pass, but so can a lot of players these days who have similar games in that area of the park, but lack attacking creativity going forwards in terms of flair, drive and instinct. See Jordan Henderson, the fella at Man Utd, Rice et al. Under a Rafa I feel that area of the older brother’s game especially wouldn’t curtail him too much as tactically and positionally I think he’d develop into a more deeper lying playmaker/Carrick type. Under Bruce his and others’ attacking/creative shortcomings will be highlighted more and eventually the good sides of their game dismissed more as they chase balls, throw themselves into tackles and look long. I hope I’m wrong of course, as they are both talented, but alongside each other without creative player in there the midfield will always lack something going forwards.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 06:39:38 PM
Actually tried to watch the game at the weekend as the 5 year old was excited for the Liverpool match (how sad is that by the way) and from what I saw of the two brothers they are both neat and tidy, can mix it up physically, and obviously have talent, but there is not much attacking creativity between the two and any midfield needs that, it’s what Liverpool lacks and they are a great team. I feel they are the kind of players whose games will be better nurtured under someone like a Rafa tactically than under Bruce who will have them just putting a shift in which will see that they develop more into hard working neat and tidy clogger type players than anything else. There needs to be some attacking creativity in there (central midfield) and neither have that kind of instinct for me. Early days and it’s good they are getting games together and looking at least capable at this level, although this level can only really be considered standard wise based on the level of the team/position etc.

What is being 'creative' anyway? A midfielder who can press effectively then move the ball on intelligently is miles better for me than someone like Shelvey who is a passenger but can ping the odd lovely 60 yd ball. I think both the Longstaffs use the ball pretty well and keep the game moving. But I think Matty is physically limited in his pressing because of his lack of pace.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 06:49:12 PM
Actually tried to watch the game at the weekend as the 5 year old was excited for the Liverpool match (how sad is that by the way) and from what I saw of the two brothers they are both neat and tidy, can mix it up physically, and obviously have talent, but there is not much attacking creativity between the two and any midfield needs that, it’s what Liverpool lacks and they are a great team. I feel they are the kind of players whose games will be better nurtured under someone like a Rafa tactically than under Bruce who will have them just putting a shift in which will see that they develop more into hard working neat and tidy clogger type players than anything else. There needs to be some attacking creativity in there (central midfield) and neither have that kind of instinct for me. Early days and it’s good they are getting games together and looking at least capable at this level, although this level can only really be considered standard wise based on the level of the team/position etc.

What is being 'creative' anyway? A midfielder who can press effectively then move the ball on intelligently is miles better for me than someone like Shelvey who is a passenger but can ping the odd lovely 60 yd ball. I think both the Longstaffs use the ball pretty well and keep the game moving. But I think Matty is physically limited in his pressing because of his lack of pace.

Someone, for me anyway, who can play quick forward attacking football at a high tempo further up the pitch in a way that dovetails the forwards. An Oxlaide Chamberlain to a Henderson or a Cabaye to a Shelvey... or a Longstaff.

Regardless, the team needs that kind of attacking play in midfield, under Rafa the team could kind of get away with it, under Bruce without such a player you’re left with players having to try and do it on their own, Almiron or the Gucci kid for example, while the Longstaffs huff and puff around in front of the back four like puppies chasing their own tail...

I’m obviously more concerned about this area or lack of their game more so being managed by Bruce in a Bruce team!
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Pata on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 06:56:47 PM
I don't really understand HTT's point. Both are good to very good passers based on limited showing and both have a great shot. Extremely small sample size so at least I wouldn't be able to have an opinion on flair, drive and instinct so far. They won't be massive dribblers but I don't think anyone expects that and at least Sean has been really good with the ball (at least last season) in very tight spots.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 08:27:22 PM
I think it would suit them to be the two central midfielders in a 4-2-3-1 system.

Only problem with that is we've not played well with 4 at the back for a few seasons now. Maybe that could be solved with a new RB and a new LB.

Would like us to line up like this:

                     Dubravka

New RB - Schar - Lejuene - New LB

            Shortstaff - Longstaff

           Bowen - Almiron - ASM

            Joelinton/New Striker
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 29 October 2019, 09:05:35 PM
                 Hayden
     S Longstaff    Almiron
ASM                        Joelinton

         Gayle/New striker
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 30 October 2019, 09:48:32 PM
I thought Lascelles and Lejeune were really good as a 2 tbh.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Charlies on Sunday 3 November 2019, 11:36:09 PM
Get in youngin

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Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: toontownman on Friday 27 December 2019, 02:33:17 PM
Another great goal and performance from him yesterday. Bright spot in an ugly mess. Think he will sign a new contract or walk away?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: HawK on Friday 27 December 2019, 02:34:38 PM
Lots of running, nack for goals, passes well. Needs to start using his head more than just his legs though and he might turn into a proper player.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: The Brittle Waster on Friday 27 December 2019, 04:00:35 PM
Another great goal and performance from him yesterday. Bright spot in an ugly mess. Think he will sign a new contract or walk away?

Run ... i think if hes got any sense he will run ...
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Friday 27 December 2019, 05:41:40 PM
Another great goal and performance from him yesterday. Bright spot in an ugly mess. Think he will sign a new contract or walk away?
Well, it's usually the case.
Either you stay or you go, isn't it?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 27 December 2019, 07:37:29 PM
Another great goal and performance from him yesterday. Bright spot in an ugly mess. Think he will sign a new contract or walk away?
Well, it's usually the case.
Either you stay or you go, isn't it?

?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 14 January 2020, 09:54:24 PM
Out of contract in the summer and on less than a grand a week apparently. Seems a bit mad we haven't offered him a new contract yet
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Mag_in_NZ on Tuesday 14 January 2020, 09:58:08 PM
Out of contract in the summer and on less than a grand a week apparently. Seems a bit mad we haven't offered him a new contract yet

Because every week that saves 10k/20k/30k* (*delete as applicable).....that’s the penny pinching slime-bucket operation Fat Ash has us working as
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 14 January 2020, 09:59:35 PM
Out of contract in the summer and on less than a grand a week apparently. Seems a bit mad we haven't offered him a new contract yet
Isn’t it just Sean who’s out of contract? Pretty sure it’s been reported that his deal is longer, though they want to renew it in anyway.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 14 January 2020, 10:01:45 PM
Out of contract in the summer and on less than a grand a week apparently. Seems a bit mad we haven't offered him a new contract yet
Isn’t it just Sean who’s out of contract? Pretty sure it’s been reported that his deal is longer, though they want to renew it in anyway.

No.  It's matty who is out of contract.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 14 January 2020, 10:51:01 PM
Hope the reason he hasn't signed a new contract yet is because he wants to leave for something better in the summer.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: tgarve on Tuesday 14 January 2020, 10:54:10 PM
Hope the reason he hasn't signed a new contract yet is because he wants to leave for something better in the summer.

t***
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:56:39 AM
He’s our most clinical finisher :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Robster on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 07:00:15 AM
Hope the reason he hasn't signed a new contract yet is because he wants to leave for something better in the summer.
t***
Concise :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Wilson on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 07:18:27 AM
Aye, needs to move on for his own sake.

I'd actually judge him for signing another contract with nufc :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Cronky on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 08:17:29 AM
It's true he lacks pace, but how many great midfielders could that have been said about - eg Scholes, Lampard? Everything else seems to be there, including a certain aggression in his game. It's been good to see him get into a few confrontations with opponents and stand up for himself. We could do with seeing a bit more of that from his brother.

In fact, he does remind me a bit of Scholes. I gather he has been offered a new contract, and it'll be a big boost if both the Longstaffs can be secured on longer contracts.

There are mixed feelings on here about his emergence. Obviously if you're pinning your hopes for the future on the team doing badly and Ashley being forced out as a result, then it isn't good news.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 08:34:10 AM
What are you pinning your hopes on?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 09:05:15 AM
This c*** got a new two year £800 a week contract yet ?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 09:07:24 AM
It's true he lacks pace, but how many great midfielders could that have been said about - eg Scholes, Lampard? Everything else seems to be there, including a certain aggression in his game. It's been good to see him get into a few confrontations with opponents and stand up for himself. We could do with seeing a bit more of that from his brother.

In fact, he does remind me a bit of Scholes. I gather he has been offered a new contract, and it'll be a big boost if both the Longstaffs can be secured on longer contracts.

There are mixed feelings on here about his emergence. Obviously if you're pinning your hopes for the future on the team doing badly and Ashley being forced out as a result, then it isn't good news.

Agree on the point about pace, which is the only doubt I have expressed about him, but he has so many other qualities maybe we shouldn't obsess about pace so much. I really do like him as a player, looks like he'll always have a goal in him as well, which is priceless in any team let alone ours.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: John P on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 09:10:27 AM
He’s our most clinical finisher :lol:

Yep :lol: He's really calm when he gets a chance, you don't often see that with midfielders.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 09:19:55 AM
I haven't seen him as much as some of you but I wouldn't say he lacks pace, he's very agile and good on the turn as well
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 09:25:46 AM
I haven't seen him as much as some of you but I wouldn't say he lacks pace, he's very agile and good on the turn as well

He's got a short stride which means he won't cover ground as quick as some. That was a huge problem with Colback, but unlike Jack, Matty is a very willing runner into space and that is gold in itself.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 10:18:45 AM
His finishing is actually quite decent. All 3 of his goals have been taken well tbf.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TBG on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 10:23:16 AM
Will be a conflicting one when he leaves and returns to play against us. On one hand he left us for a more ambitious club therefore deserves the Perez treatment, on the other hand he's a Geordie.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Anderson on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 10:39:34 AM
TA: “Have you ever had team-mates say to you, ‘Why the f*** have you just kicked me up the backside?’ or ‘Why are you hitting me?’”

MR: “(Laughs) Yeah, yeah. Matty (Longstaff) said to me tonight actually, ‘Matt, man, why are you hitting my head? It hurts’. But I love it. I love the feeling of winning, of succeeding, that togetherness. When you win it’s so good.”


:lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:38:54 AM
If you watch the video, Ritchie gives Matty a whack on the head after scoring.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:39:03 AM
TA: “Have you ever had team-mates say to you, ‘Why the f*** have you just kicked me up the backside?’ or ‘Why are you hitting me?’”

MR: “(Laughs) Yeah, yeah. Matty (Longstaff) said to me tonight actually, ‘Matt, man, why are you hitting my head? It hurts’. But I love it. I love the feeling of winning, of succeeding, that togetherness. When you win it’s so good.”


:lol:

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Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:05:56 PM
By any measure, he's an amazing prospect and the sky's the limit at the moment with this young lad. Been so very impressed with him. No doubt having his big brother at the same club and that sibling rivalry has pushed him and will keep pushing him (/Rafa). Keeping both together is going to be good for their development.

It almost seemed a lazy comparison with Scholes, after his first goal, and I think it was premature. But if there was one thing that Scholes had that this lad seems to also have, it's that fantastic off-the-ball awareness, to be in the right places at the right time to get those goals.

Combine that with a great engine, I never see the lad stop running, and he's going to be very important. Ideally, I'd like to see him running less with the more experience he gets. The best players don't need to run, they are just where they need to be nearly all of the time. Like when Dummett had that crazy top speed stat a few years ago, because he has to sprint like a mad-man to recover his position if he over-extends. If he had a better footballing brain, he'd not need to do that.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:31:52 PM
I would love for him to sign a long term contract with his boyhood club but would absolutely be celebrating if he got a deal at someone like Dortmund or something that will develop him into a class footballer.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:36:48 PM
Out of contract in the summer and on less than a grand a week apparently. Seems a bit mad we haven't offered him a new contract yet

WHAT :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Can hear Shelvey calling him a 'peasant' in training every day.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 12:46:26 PM
When I saw the goal I thought it was an amazing piece of skill, didn’t realise he kicked it against the defender’s face. :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Boo Boy on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 01:08:05 PM
Out of contract in the summer and on less than a grand a week apparently. Seems a bit mad we haven't offered him a new contract yet

WHAT :lol:

He is still on £850 a week. his contract has never been updated since he was an under 23 player. The club are still trying to get him on he cheap rather than pay the going rate for a premier league player
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: The College Dropout on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 01:44:11 PM
If he’s smart he’ll string the club along all spring then decide what he wants to do in the summer.  This club is going nowhere fast.  If we are still in the PL it’s worth staying awhile as we won’t pay for more first team CMs than needed. 
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 01:55:49 PM
Out of contract in the summer and on less than a grand a week apparently. Seems a bit mad we haven't offered him a new contract yet

WHAT :lol:

He is still on £850 a week. his contract has never been updated since he was an under 23 player. The club are still trying to get him on he cheap rather than pay the going rate for a premier league player

Sean hasn't had his contract extended either. He's still on the same deal he was on before he broke into the first team.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 02:57:20 PM
NUFC have a history over the Ashley era of signing young players who have made a good impression in the short term to long contracts with high wages. They've been burned by this quite a few times. Maybe they are trying to take a more considered approach with the Longstaff brothers?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: LV on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 03:52:03 PM
Or maybe they just don’t know what they f*** they are doing.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Vuckic & Ranger are two examples mind.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 04:48:04 PM
Aarons too
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 04:49:21 PM
Unconfirmed but I'm hearing you don't need to always offer players a 6 year deal.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 04:50:04 PM
5.5 year deal at this stage surely.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 04:58:38 PM
Sterry's still stinking the place up.

Barlaser too, but that's harsh as he actually looks like a footballer unlike Sterry and I actually thought he'd get a shot before the Longstaffs.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 05:01:16 PM
they gave long term deals to those guys who never actually showed much of a stink of promise in the first team.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 05:02:57 PM
Sterry's still stinking the place up.

Barlaser too, but that's harsh as he actually looks like a footballer unlike Sterry and I actually thought he'd get a shot before the Longstaffs.

Craig Hope was on about Barlaser this morning, saying he'd been decent at wherever he's at.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 05:06:54 PM
Sterry's still stinking the place up.

Barlaser too, but that's harsh as he actually looks like a footballer unlike Sterry and I actually thought he'd get a shot before the Longstaffs.

Craig Hope was on about Barlaser this morning, saying he'd been decent at wherever he's at.

Rotherham's fans love him, Accrington's did last year too.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 05:10:45 PM
Aye, looked canny the couple of times I saw him play last season. Probably get a crack at a lower Championship club you'd imagine next season, particularly if Rotherham go up.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 05:27:27 PM
Unconfirmed but I'm hearing you don't need to always offer players a 6 year deal.
A 2 year contract on "fair" wages with a clause to review the salary based on appearances and performance would seem reasonable. Problem is, another club could take the risk and offer better terms.

I think Joelinton got a 6 year contract so Ashley isn't done with the super long contracts just yet.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 05:54:41 PM
Surely any sensible club wouldn't need to change their team any more often than 6 years?

Like a mattress.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: LV on Wednesday 15 January 2020, 11:35:43 PM
Surely any sensible club wouldn't need to change their team any more often than 6 years?

Like a mattress.

A p*ss-stained one
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: LV on Friday 31 January 2020, 07:55:12 AM
Linked to both Milan clubs :lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 1 February 2020, 11:19:13 PM
Linked to both Milan clubs :lol:

It should have been sorted long before now, but instead it looks like they will let him walk away, for buttons. And who could blame the lad?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 2 February 2020, 01:56:14 AM
They will both sign within a month imo.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TBG on Sunday 2 February 2020, 08:58:26 AM
Aye with them both being announced at the same time.

The Chronicle can do a 30 page collectors pull out piece on them and how the club is in safe hands with a Geordie in charge and Geordies running the midfield.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Monday 3 February 2020, 05:35:37 PM
Suspect it may be bollocks but doesn't sound like what should be the easiest contract talks are going well.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: loki679 on Monday 3 February 2020, 05:41:48 PM
How are we going to boo him if he goes abroad? 

Hope humpty numpty has the foresight to arrange a pre-season friendly with Shortstaffs new team so the wongaloids can give him the reception his disgusting ambition and desire to improve himself deserves.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Monday 3 February 2020, 05:48:21 PM
Bruce is apparently concerned, - you f***ing prick - give the kid what he deserves. Same for Sean. Stop being so f***ing thick and cheap.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Strawberry on Monday 3 February 2020, 05:54:42 PM
What a shame if he leaves  :huff:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Monday 3 February 2020, 06:08:11 PM
Suspect it may be bollocks but doesn't sound like what should be the easiest contract talks are going well.

Wonder if both brothers are being advised to run down their contracts now.

Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: toon25 on Monday 3 February 2020, 06:40:06 PM
‘They hold all the power these days. We often see it with young players’.

Excellent man management there Steve. You fat c***.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TK-421 on Monday 3 February 2020, 07:07:52 PM
‘They hold all the power these days. We often see it with young players’.

Excellent man management there Steve. You fat c***.


:jesuswept: Just seen those quotes from him. That is unreal to call a young player out like that, and basically blame him/his agent for the contract situation.  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Rocker on Monday 3 February 2020, 07:16:45 PM
Fat, pug-faced c***.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Monday 3 February 2020, 07:51:35 PM
Matty might be thinking twice about staying if he's aware of interest from other clubs. Not sure any players are looking at our current style of play and management and getting excited about it. I'm certain Schar for one will be pushing for a move away.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 3 February 2020, 07:54:09 PM
this kid could very well be the real deal with proper coaching, i hope he f***s us right off and goes somewhere decent
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Monday 3 February 2020, 08:01:06 PM
Suspect it may be bollocks but doesn't sound like what should be the easiest contract talks are going well.

Wonder if both brothers are being advised to run down their contracts now.



Sean’s doesn’t end until 2022 so he’ll be waiting a while.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TBG on Monday 3 February 2020, 08:06:30 PM
Let's hope he gets the Perez treatment on his return to St James' with another team. How dare he leave for a club with ambition.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 3 February 2020, 08:10:03 PM
Let's hope he gets the Perez treatment on his return to St James' with another team. How dare he leave for a club with ambition.

:lol: He'd quite definitely get a hero's welcome.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Monday 3 February 2020, 08:10:42 PM
Let's hope he gets the Perez treatment on his return to St James' with another team. How dare he leave for a club with ambition.

But then the Carroll treatment if he heroically comes home on a free after pissing his career away. What a boon it would be for Jack Colback’s team ahead of the season at the Lonsdale Slip-on Dome.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: triggs on Monday 3 February 2020, 11:59:25 PM
Matty might be thinking twice about staying if he's aware of interest from other clubs. Not sure any players are looking at our current style of play and management and getting excited about it. I'm certain Schar for one will be pushing for a move away.
He's probably getting f***ed by the club money wise in the negotiations. Often happens when a kid comes through for their local team. The club thinks they can take advantage of their loyalty
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Gorilla on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:32:40 PM
What a f***ing goal.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:44:27 PM
He never stopped running, both him and his brother did good today.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:46:13 PM
I thought the opposite with Matty. Second cup game I’ve seen him play where he completely goes missing in the second half and his closing down/tackles is nowhere near the player. He’s got a long way to go if he’s going to make it at a top level.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:47:13 PM
Looked like he was playing deep while Sean was pushed up, which seemed a bit odd.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:48:25 PM
Bruce just rolling dice at this point.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 10:53:49 PM
I thought the opposite with Matty. Second cup game I’ve seen him play where he completely goes missing in the second half and his closing down/tackles is nowhere near the player. He’s got a long way to go if he’s going to make it at a top level.

I disagree. I thought he had a great game. Every other player, apart from Bentaleb, looked liable to f*** up whenever they were in possession.

Matty isn't a great tackler for sure, but his work-rate makes up for that, to a great extent.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 11:01:44 PM
I thought the opposite with Matty. Second cup game I’ve seen him play where he completely goes missing in the second half and his closing down/tackles is nowhere near the player. He’s got a long way to go if he’s going to make it at a top level.

I disagree. I thought he had a great game. Every other player, apart from Bentaleb, looked liable to f*** up whenever they were in possession.

Matty isn't a great tackler for sure, but his work-rate makes up for that, to a great extent.

I hope I’m wrong. Just seems like he runs around a lot and is bypassed very easily.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 4 February 2020, 11:25:30 PM
I thought the opposite with Matty. Second cup game I’ve seen him play where he completely goes missing in the second half and his closing down/tackles is nowhere near the player. He’s got a long way to go if he’s going to make it at a top level.

I disagree. I thought he had a great game. Every other player, apart from Bentaleb, looked liable to f*** up whenever they were in possession.

Matty isn't a great tackler for sure, but his work-rate makes up for that, to a great extent.

I hope I’m wrong. Just seems like he runs around a lot and is bypassed very easily.

For sure, his defending is weak. But his touch on the ball, his vision, and his passing is top class. Can you imagine how well he'd do in a better team where he gets more time and space, and more options for his passing? I hope that'll be us, in time, but sadly I doubt it.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Wednesday 5 February 2020, 08:06:50 AM
I thought he was the best player on the park in the first half but he faded badly towards the end. Really enjoy watching him knock it about the midfield with ease at times, it's a shame we won't see it too often in the PL.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 5 February 2020, 08:32:11 AM
Even during the last 10 minutes of extra time he was making full burst runs getting forward.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Rebellious on Wednesday 5 February 2020, 08:34:50 AM
Anyone notice when dickhead brought Hayden on he kept Matty as the deep midfielder and put Hayden out wide left ?  I would have had Matty there and Hayden in Matty`s place.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 5 February 2020, 10:49:20 AM
Anyone notice when dickhead brought Hayden on he kept Matty as the deep midfielder and put Hayden out wide left ?  I would have had Matty there and Hayden in Matty`s place.

To me it just looked like they were all running about trying to close down in a haphazard way.

A couple of seconds after introducing our fourth CM, all of them were ahead of the ball when we gave it away.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 5 February 2020, 11:02:15 AM
It's insane that we haven't sorted his contract out - Bruce said last summer that he was our best player in pre-season so it should have been done and dusted then!

Randomly, I've heard he's going to Watford which seems bizarre?!
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: The Brittle Waster on Sunday 9 February 2020, 08:14:10 PM
Surely him and his brother are more realistic in their long term view of Nufc than the fans ? If they have any brain cells they are gone if they stay they must be thick and would deserve the mediocre careers that would ensue
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Coffee_Johnny on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 10:48:20 AM
There’s nothing mediocre about a career in the premier league. I would imagine that clinging onto that for as long as is possible is the (realistic) main goal of most young professionals.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 11:01:09 AM
I thought the opposite with Matty. Second cup game I’ve seen him play where he completely goes missing in the second half and his closing down/tackles is nowhere near the player. He’s got a long way to go if he’s going to make it at a top level.

I disagree. I thought he had a great game. Every other player, apart from Bentaleb, looked liable to f*** up whenever they were in possession.

Matty isn't a great tackler for sure, but his work-rate makes up for that, to a great extent.

I think his lack of ability to cover ground will end up preventing him making it to the top sadly. He's very good on the ball, but in the premier, ability to close down seems to be a premium attribute these days, and I'm not convinced his attacking qualities will be enough to make up for what he lacks defensively. Unless he plays as a withdrawn striker rather than a midfielder.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 12:27:55 PM
I thought the opposite with Matty. Second cup game I’ve seen him play where he completely goes missing in the second half and his closing down/tackles is nowhere near the player. He’s got a long way to go if he’s going to make it at a top level.

I disagree. I thought he had a great game. Every other player, apart from Bentaleb, looked liable to f*** up whenever they were in possession.

Matty isn't a great tackler for sure, but his work-rate makes up for that, to a great extent.

I think his lack of ability to cover ground will end up preventing him making it to the top sadly. He's very good on the ball, but in the premier, ability to close down seems to be a premium attribute these days, and I'm not convinced his attacking qualities will be enough to make up for what he lacks defensively. Unless he plays as a withdrawn striker rather than a midfielder.

It made it even more baffling to me that Bruce played Sean in the 10 role rather that him as he seems more natural in the holding type role whereas as Matty is more of a goal threat. I guess it paid off for him in the short term.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Strawberry on Tuesday 11 February 2020, 01:42:30 PM
Shame they dont agree a deal with Matty. Any club in the land will tie him up for long term.

Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 13 February 2020, 02:12:43 AM
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if it wasn't a big PR play.

Give it a month and in comes hero Bruce and ties them both down to long term contracts. Lots of quotes about how great the gaffer is and how he played such a pivotal role in them signing. The importance of keeping local lads and Ashleys long term vision of the club etc..
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: John P on Thursday 13 February 2020, 10:09:24 AM
I know for a fact that some players at the club agree and sign new contracts months before they are actually announced. I'm guessing the club do this so they can announce them at an opportune time. However, I don't think that's the case with Longstaff, I reckon they're probably just offering him f*** all and he understandably doesn't want to sign a s*** contract.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: tgarve on Thursday 13 February 2020, 05:08:41 PM
I know for a fact that some players at the club agree and sign new contracts months before they are actually announced. I'm guessing the club do this so they can announce them at an opportune time. However, I don't think that's the case with Longstaff, I reckon they're probably just offering him f*** all and he understandably doesn't want to sign a s*** contract.

How do you know that for a fact?

I’m not having a go just curious
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: John P on Friday 14 February 2020, 11:59:45 AM
I know for a fact that some players at the club agree and sign new contracts months before they are actually announced. I'm guessing the club do this so they can announce them at an opportune time. However, I don't think that's the case with Longstaff, I reckon they're probably just offering him f*** all and he understandably doesn't want to sign a s*** contract.

How do you know that for a fact?

I’m not having a go just curious

A very close friend of mine is friends with a first team player and told me about a new contract that was signed months before it was announced.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 14 February 2020, 03:30:50 PM
i'm actually starting to think this deal won't get done and he'll go for free.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 14 February 2020, 03:40:02 PM
Think it's already done and they'll announce it at the same time Bruce is given his 8 year contract.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 14 February 2020, 05:33:25 PM
I know for a fact that some players at the club agree and sign new contracts months before they are actually announced. I'm guessing the club do this so they can announce them at an opportune time. However, I don't think that's the case with Longstaff, I reckon they're probably just offering him f*** all and he understandably doesn't want to sign a s*** contract.

How do you know that for a fact?

I’m not having a go just curious

A very close friend of mine is friends with a first team player and told me about a new contract that was signed months before it was announced.

Very close friend? Not close enough to introduce you to his other mates though?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: John P on Saturday 15 February 2020, 12:02:30 AM
I know for a fact that some players at the club agree and sign new contracts months before they are actually announced. I'm guessing the club do this so they can announce them at an opportune time. However, I don't think that's the case with Longstaff, I reckon they're probably just offering him f*** all and he understandably doesn't want to sign a s*** contract.

How do you know that for a fact?

I’m not having a go just curious

A very close friend of mine is friends with a first team player and told me about a new contract that was signed months before it was announced.

Very close friend? Not close enough to introduce you to his other mates though?

Yes, a very good friend I used to work with who still lives in Newcastle. I don't live in Newcastle any more so only see my mate a few times a year at weekends when, funnily enough, the first team player is a bit busy.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 15 February 2020, 12:14:12 AM
A contract similar to Carroll’s would be reasonable surely? Probably not as high as £75k for every start but something like £15-20k basic and £40-50k when he’s picked is fair.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 15 February 2020, 02:35:44 AM
I know for a fact that some players at the club agree and sign new contracts months before they are actually announced. I'm guessing the club do this so they can announce them at an opportune time. However, I don't think that's the case with Longstaff, I reckon they're probably just offering him f*** all and he understandably doesn't want to sign a s*** contract.

How do you know that for a fact?

I’m not having a go just curious

A very close friend of mine is friends with a first team player and told me about a new contract that was signed months before it was announced.

Very close friend? Not close enough to introduce you to his other mates though?

Yes, a very good friend I used to work with who still lives in Newcastle. I don't live in Newcastle any more so only see my mate a few times a year at weekends when, funnily enough, the first team player is a bit busy.

Hmmm. That's acceptable.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 15 February 2020, 08:08:48 AM
I think he will sign, but unfortunately I can't see any incentive for him to sign at this point. The longer he waits, the more other clubs will come sniffing, and the better the contract he's likely to get.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 15 February 2020, 10:19:57 AM
I'd love to know what the hold up is.

Be alright if we had an assertive manager who wasn't s*** scared of the owner.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 15 February 2020, 10:34:58 AM
Reckon the Longstaffs/ their agent will only agree to a new contract for Matty if the club also give Sean an improved deal at the same time
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Sima on Saturday 15 February 2020, 10:51:27 AM
A contract similar to Carroll’s would be reasonable surely? Probably not as high as £75k for every start but something like £15-20k basic and £40-50k when he’s picked is fair.

He's a young player with seemingly his best years in front of him, why would he agree to a type of contract that is reserved for has-beens that can barely get fit enough to appear on the pitch?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Saturday 15 February 2020, 11:01:26 AM
Sounds like he trying to steal Mikes hard earned money. Sickening. He is clearly not a real Geordie like Steve or Andy.

Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Paully on Saturday 15 February 2020, 11:12:56 AM
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Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 15 February 2020, 02:01:47 PM
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They've missed a trick by not photoshopping Yedlin into Bruce.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Menace on Saturday 15 February 2020, 02:33:04 PM
The irony in that pic is this bellend buying a season ticket.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 15 February 2020, 05:14:02 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Saturday 22 February 2020, 06:40:58 PM
Wonder if Bruce has been told not to play him because he’s trying to steal Mike’s money?
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 22 February 2020, 06:43:49 PM
Seems the only logical reason given he’s our best fit midfielder next to Hayden
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Paully on Friday 28 February 2020, 09:33:57 AM
From the Athletic - Inter, Marseille and a Bundesliga team want him


Matty is still on the original professional deal he signed in July 2018, which runs out in June, and is being paid roughly £850 a week. Good money for some but Newcastle’s top earner, fellow midfielder, Jonjo Shelvey, receives almost 100 times that.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Disco on Friday 28 February 2020, 09:48:39 AM
I'd be pretty impressed if he showed some gumption and went to play in Germany.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Conjo on Friday 28 February 2020, 09:54:23 AM
He's such a likeable character. Wish he has good consultation that recommends what is best for his development in the long term and don't sign anything this club puts forward to him.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 28 February 2020, 10:34:11 AM
Honestly needs to go to Germany
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: loki679 on Friday 28 February 2020, 11:39:26 AM
I think he's going to be a really good player and if the club aren't willing to pay what it takes to keep him then I wouldn't begrudge him a move away.  Would be nice to see him go abroad if he does go.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 28 February 2020, 12:11:17 PM
go abroad son, and f***ing slate the club when you do it
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: St1pe on Friday 28 February 2020, 12:11:39 PM
Would also like to see him move to a different league. He’s a very English centre mid at the minute, lots of charging around but not a great deal of finesse or tactics to his play. Would love to see what a good coach could do for him.

I’d like him to stay here but I just don’t see him improving to a Premier League player in our setup.
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Post by: Wilson on Friday 28 February 2020, 01:04:22 PM
Think I'd prefer to see them stay and become successful elsewhere in the Premier league.
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Post by: ManDoon on Friday 28 February 2020, 01:13:28 PM
850 quid for a PL footballer, f***ing lol
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Post by: Rafalove on Friday 28 February 2020, 02:00:52 PM
go abroad son, and f***ing slate the club when you do it


This. Would be pretty class seeing him go to a big club and become a regular. Would have a team in Europe to cheer for.
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Post by: geordie john on Friday 28 February 2020, 03:45:53 PM
From the Athletic - Inter, Marseille and a Bundesliga team want him


Matty is still on the original professional deal he signed in July 2018, which runs out in June, and is being paid roughly £850 a week. Good money for some but Newcastle’s top earner, fellow midfielder, Jonjo Shelvey, receives almost 100 times that.

We are a shameful club in every way. Ashley has brought us - dragged  us - into the gutter. £850 a week? For f***s sake.......we get what we deserve....
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Post by: Cf on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:17:26 PM
It's nice to know you can earn more than a premier league footballer.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Cf on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:18:05 PM
From the Athletic - Inter, Marseille and a Bundesliga team want him


Matty is still on the original professional deal he signed in July 2018, which runs out in June, and is being paid roughly £850 a week. Good money for some but Newcastle’s top earner, fellow midfielder, Jonjo Shelvey, receives almost 100 times that.

Also this has to be a mistake. There is no way we are paying Shelvey £850,000 a week.
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Post by: Disco on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:19:53 PM
From the Athletic - Inter, Marseille and a Bundesliga team want him


Matty is still on the original professional deal he signed in July 2018, which runs out in June, and is being paid roughly £850 a week. Good money for some but Newcastle’s top earner, fellow midfielder, Jonjo Shelvey, receives almost 100 times that.

Also this has to be a mistake. There is no way we are paying Shelvey £850,000 a week.

850*100 ≠ 850,000
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Post by: soyt on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:23:40 PM
Should pay his own salary if he loves the club. Or play for free. He is gettin tens of pounds for the od cameo, oh the greed.
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Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:28:25 PM
The £850 a week Matty is supposedly paid is his contract before breaking into the first team. As I understand it Matty now wants a wage which reflects his promotion to the first team squad. With his contract coming to an end he can play hardball with NUFC, especially if there are other clubs interested. I read he wants £25K a week. I guess NUFC are trying to avoid another situation where they give a young player who has broken into the first team a fantastic deal against the risk that they could be a flash in the pan.
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Post by: magorific on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:38:33 PM
From the Athletic - Inter, Marseille and a Bundesliga team want him


Matty is still on the original professional deal he signed in July 2018, which runs out in June, and is being paid roughly £850 a week. Good money for some but Newcastle’s top earner, fellow midfielder, Jonjo Shelvey, receives almost 100 times that.

Also this has to be a mistake. There is no way we are paying Shelvey £850,000 a week.

850*100 ≠ 850,000

= 85,000
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Post by: Disco on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:42:57 PM
The £850 a week Matty is supposedly paid is his contract before breaking into the first team. As I understand it Matty now wants a wage which reflects his promotion to the first team squad. With his contract coming to an end he can play hardball with NUFC, especially if there are other clubs interested. I read he wants £25K a week. I guess NUFC are trying to avoid another situation where they give a young player who has broken into the first team a fantastic deal against the risk that they could be a flash in the pan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42130297
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Post by: Ian W on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:43:33 PM
The £850 a week Matty is supposedly paid is his contract before breaking into the first team. As I understand it Matty now wants a wage which reflects his promotion to the first team squad. With his contract coming to an end he can play hardball with NUFC, especially if there are other clubs interested. I read he wants £25K a week. I guess NUFC are trying to avoid another situation where they give a young player who has broken into the first team a fantastic deal against the risk that they could be a flash in the pan.

Better to give those deals to older players who are proven to be s****.
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Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:50:00 PM
I'm not saying the club is correct to not offer Matty a good deal, I'm saying they've been badly burned numerous times before giving big wages and long deals to players they then can't get rid of (Ranger, Aarons, Vučkić, etc).
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Post by: loki679 on Friday 28 February 2020, 04:57:14 PM
25k a week isn't big wages for a PL first team squad member
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 February 2020, 05:01:13 PM
25k a week isn't big wages for a PL first team squad member

It should be the minimum imo with how much money is around.
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Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Friday 28 February 2020, 05:03:26 PM
25k a week isn't big wages for a PL first team squad member

It's not. He's also not been in the first team much (even though some of us may think he should have been over others). You'd think they could give him a contract with a good wage but with clauses to increase his wages based on certain targets. Easier said than done if another team is willing to take the risk on giving him a higher wage and a longer contract straight off.
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Post by: Cf on Saturday 29 February 2020, 09:58:31 AM
From the Athletic - Inter, Marseille and a Bundesliga team want him


Matty is still on the original professional deal he signed in July 2018, which runs out in June, and is being paid roughly £850 a week. Good money for some but Newcastle’s top earner, fellow midfielder, Jonjo Shelvey, receives almost 100 times that.

Also this has to be a mistake. There is no way we are paying Shelvey £850,000 a week.

850*100 ≠ 850,000

f***ing hell I'm an idiot. Trained maths teacher too. No wonder the country is going to s***.
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Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 29 February 2020, 10:40:10 AM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?
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Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 29 February 2020, 10:40:53 AM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: Keggy_Keagal on Saturday 29 February 2020, 10:59:55 AM
Just give him the f***ing money. To think of the amounts wasted over the years on utter dross, it's hardly a king's ransom.
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Post by: Cronky on Saturday 29 February 2020, 11:02:08 AM
I'm not saying the club is correct to not offer Matty a good deal, I'm saying they've been badly burned numerous times before giving big wages and long deals to players they then can't get rid of (Ranger, Aarons, Vučkić, etc).

25k isn't an unreasonable demand in today's climate, especially if other clubs are after him. He looks far more comfortable at first team level than Aarons or Vuckic ever did.

Ranger was a terrible waste of talent. The minute he got that contract, he wasn't bothered, but he had the raw ability to have a really good career, I think.
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Post by: Shearergol on Saturday 29 February 2020, 12:28:12 PM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.

Really?
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Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 29 February 2020, 12:45:45 PM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.

Really?

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Post by: triggs on Saturday 29 February 2020, 12:47:27 PM
Common for players to get way higher wages when they are signed on a free so would believe that Colback wage
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Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 29 February 2020, 01:15:08 PM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.

Really?

Well close to it, signed on a free so means more wages.


Also apparently we were amazingly in a wage war with west ham over his signature.
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Post by: TRon on Saturday 29 February 2020, 05:01:31 PM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.

Really?

Well close to it, signed on a free so means more wages.


Also apparently we were amazingly in a wage war with west ham over his signature.


Moyes was the manager then as well wasn't he?
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Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 29 February 2020, 05:02:20 PM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.

Really?

Well close to it, signed on a free so means more wages.


Also apparently we were amazingly in a wage war with west ham over his signature.


Moyes was the manager then as well wasn't he?

No, he had just been sacked at Man Utd.
Title: Re: Matty Shortstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 29 February 2020, 05:05:58 PM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.

Really?

Well close to it, signed on a free so means more wages.


Also apparently we were amazingly in a wage war with west ham over his signature.


Moyes was the manager then as well wasn't he?

No, he had just been sacked at Man Utd.

Who was manager then? Just trying to figure out which chump would rate Colback so highly. I'm assuming it was a PFM.
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Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 29 February 2020, 05:09:16 PM
£25k a week is fair enough. What’s Colback on again?

60k.

Really?

Well close to it, signed on a free so means more wages.


Also apparently we were amazingly in a wage war with west ham over his signature.


Moyes was the manager then as well wasn't he?

No, he had just been sacked at Man Utd.

Who was manager then? Just trying to figure out which chump would rate Colback so highly. I'm assuming it was a PFM.

Allardyce of course.
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Post by: TRon on Saturday 29 February 2020, 05:10:17 PM
:lol: