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Title: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:18:21 PM
 :rant:Various sources saying he's about to sign for us from Frankfurt, one year loan with an option to buy

Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toontownman on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:21:19 PM
That's CM sorted.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Johneddy on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:24:35 PM
Left back aint he?
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Post by: CFlan on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:31:02 PM
f***ing loans, what a pathetic shitbox club we are :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Willow on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:31:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bgXDof1.png)
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: LV on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:33:03 PM
That’s taken like 6 years to get over the line
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: reefatoon on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:35:45 PM
That’s taken like 6 years to get over the line

Fast for Charnley.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Mikky on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:37:38 PM
That’s taken like 6 years to get over the line

And yet we still can’t afford to buy him outright
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:38:15 PM
Good loan signing to be fair.

And smart to just loan should give him the motivation to get back to his PSV form win a permanent move.

Found it understandable difficult to displace Kostic who contributed to 15 goals from wing back for Frankfurt :thup:

Not sure I’m allowed to post players form at other clubs but there you go for those who are interested.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: KaKa on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:39:58 PM
Good loan signing to be fair.

And smart to just loan needs to prove he can get back to his PSV form.

Found it understandable difficult to displace Kostic who contributed to 15 goals from wing back for Frankfurt :thup:

Not sure I’m allowed to post players form at other clubs but there you go for those who are interested.

:thup:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 2 August 2019, 02:47:32 PM
Heard this guy is not supplying money for necessities.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Andy on Friday 2 August 2019, 03:21:13 PM
Heard this guy is not supplying money for necessities.

:lol:

Necessaties for vot?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toontownman on Friday 2 August 2019, 03:24:01 PM
Bares..
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toontownman on Friday 2 August 2019, 03:29:32 PM
Back on track. He spent last year mainly being played at CM and wants to get back to LB where he made his name. I think the pooping on shouldn't be for the going Loan to buy, thats smart given his fitness/form. It's more that we have gone from a very highly touted target to a slightly tainted one.

Willems fits the wingback slot far better than N'Soki but is maybe a bigger gamble. Much higher ceiling and pedigree than the last two LB's we brought in though (not that hard). Understand the skepticism.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Disco on Friday 2 August 2019, 04:09:56 PM
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 2 August 2019, 04:26:33 PM
Heard this guy is not supplying money for necessities.

Yes he is not
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: 1964 on Friday 2 August 2019, 04:40:24 PM
Heard this guy is not supplying money for necessities.
Toilet paper, female sanitary products?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: TRon on Friday 2 August 2019, 04:46:43 PM
Back on track. He spent last year mainly being played at CM and wants to get back to LB where he made his name. I think the pooping on shouldn't be for the going Loan to buy, thats smart given his fitness/form. It's more that we have gone from a very highly touted target to a slightly tainted one.

Willems fits the wingback slot far better than N'Soki but is maybe a bigger gamble. Much higher ceiling and pedigree than the last two LB's we brought in though (not that hard). Understand the skepticism.

N'Soki seems to be a more highly rated calibre player, but we could probably use a genuine wing back more than a solid left sided defender so maybe Willems will fit the bill.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ian W on Friday 2 August 2019, 04:48:21 PM
What's wrong with Big Paully D like?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Tooj on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:01:10 PM
What's wrong with Big Paully D like?
He was probably a bit too pally with Rafa and understands the omnishambles of what's going on behind the scenes and isn't afraid to say it.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: TRon on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:12:15 PM
What's wrong with Big Paully D like?
He was probably a bit too pally with Rafa and understands the omnishambles of what's going on behind the scenes and isn't afraid to say it.

Somehow I doubt it. He'll probably be in the side as the left sided CB and one of the foreign contingent will get shifted on. Lejeune, Schar or Fernandez.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:14:29 PM
:thup: The good thing with loans is even if they're brilliant and win player of the season, you don't have to sign them.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Mike on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:16:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bgXDof1.png)

First pic looks like he just found out he's coming here.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:31:51 PM
Heard this guy is not supplying money for necessities.

:lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Big Geordie on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:46:11 PM
Am sure we were linked with this lad, when Pardew was manager?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Disco on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:56:46 PM
Am sure we were linked with this lad, when Pardew was manager?

We were. Circa World Cup 2014.

Looks like he’s had a tough paper-round mind.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Bimpy474 on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:01:27 PM
Tim Krul's mate or something, twitter exchange between them back then iirc.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:02:54 PM
He was at Newcastle v Arsenal in 2016 too to watch his pal Gini.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Bimpy474 on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:09:41 PM
He was at Newcastle v Arsenal in 2016 too to watch his pal Gini.

Ah that might it then, remember him twitter, Newcastle something like that.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:15:23 PM
Schar or Lejeune being peddled to make room for Dummett would make me sick.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sempuki on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:17:02 PM
Confirmed.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:17:42 PM
That was fast.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sempuki on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:17:52 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFC/status/1157339074061066241
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sempuki on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:18:25 PM
That was fast.
Charnley can seemingly multi-task.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Charlies on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:18:29 PM
That was erm quick (not counting the previous 7yr or so :lol: )
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: CFlan on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:18:50 PM
He’s been on the Ben Arfa diet.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:25:27 PM
Mad how quick that's been done.

Or not mad if it was just a case of the press not having a clue until this morning.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: taxfree on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:26:26 PM
That chin beard needs to go.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sempuki on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:26:55 PM
He’s been on the Ben Arfa diet.
Has quite a fat face.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: chopey on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:27:22 PM
Mad how quick that's been done.

Or not mad if it was just a case of the press not having a clue until this morning.

No income tax, no VAT Lovely Jubbly
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: cubaricho on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:27:41 PM
@Kanji is going to be so stoked. :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:31:13 PM
Chuffed for Kanji and Ikon, regardless of whether or not this dude’s any good :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:31:50 PM
Would be good to see him first choice but you know he’ll not drop Dummett or Ritchie.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: gdm on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:57:05 PM
Is he any good? Not played for Netherlands since 2016
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: UncleBingo on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:58:34 PM
Was his decision to sign a Jetro mull?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Big Geordie on Friday 2 August 2019, 06:59:21 PM
From a couple of Dutch mates, on FB;

Jeroen Thijssen - 22 time Dutch international, left back who was good at PSV, however a decent attacking Eredivisie wing back often struggles a level higher - as such at Frankfurt. Still, he's getting a bit older and now at age 25 he should be experienced enough. Excellent pace, cross, pass - but defensively (mostly due to his size, still a bit of a question mark) - I'd like him in a 532/352 line-up, next to 3 DCs.

Dirk-Jan van der Duim - Loadsa potential when he appeared on the scene, still has a ways to go to reach maximum level, I'd say. Press in the NL think he's going to play himself back in orange, playing on this level.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 2 August 2019, 07:41:13 PM
Better than kenedy anyway
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: La Parka on Friday 2 August 2019, 07:43:01 PM
Hench boi
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: TRon on Friday 2 August 2019, 07:49:06 PM
Am sure we were linked with this lad, when Pardew was manager?

We were. Circa World Cup 2014.

Looks like he’s had a tough paper-round mind.


One of those you could easily convince me was 35 rather than 25.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: SSFC on Friday 2 August 2019, 07:50:46 PM
We'll see how this one goes. IIRC another fullback on Frankfurt-Chandler was getting games instead of him at LB. Which is only noteworthy cause Chandler is the guy with more experience that couldnt beat Yedlin for the RB job for USA (Chandler is normally a RB). Now the timing may be off on when CHandler played there and Willems but I think they were both there for Frankfurt.

He is pretty well removed from the days where there was a ton of hype around Willems after PSV but maybe he can re-gain that quality.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Kanji on Friday 2 August 2019, 07:51:59 PM
Yuhhhhhh!

@Ikon where tf are you?!
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 2 August 2019, 08:04:22 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TintedHonorableAgama-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Wilson on Friday 2 August 2019, 08:08:57 PM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/iDMfrlspB76gbZRlKY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Gorilla on Friday 2 August 2019, 08:20:23 PM
I wonder if Kuyt will sign now.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Joey Linton on Friday 2 August 2019, 08:48:05 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: thomas on Friday 2 August 2019, 08:54:24 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 2 August 2019, 08:58:21 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.

Wrong.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 2 August 2019, 09:00:55 PM
Not sure how upgrading on Dummett is a bad thing.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: SSFC on Friday 2 August 2019, 09:21:47 PM
Not sure how upgrading on Dummett is a bad thing.

Probably wouldnt be but I see reason to doubt that it is.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Joey Linton on Friday 2 August 2019, 10:04:03 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.

Wrong.

He's an awful footballer. Contributes absolutely nothing other than being a stopper.  If he wasn't a local lad he'd get way more criticism. 

If we can improve on him we absolutely should.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 2 August 2019, 10:05:41 PM
everyone is going to look s***/even shitter under Bruce.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: SSFC on Friday 2 August 2019, 10:11:51 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.

Wrong.

He's an awful footballer. Contributes absolutely nothing other than being a stopper.  If he wasn't a local lad he'd get way more criticism. 

If we can improve on him we absolutely should.

The premise of your argument is sound. No doubt we should look to improve. My issue, and Im not sure if there was extenuating circumstances as to why it happened, but Timmy Chandler (RB) was getting time above Willems at LB. Considering Chandler couldnt get a look in, while in his prime, over Yedlin going back over the last few years for USA. That is why I am reluctant to think this is an upgrade at all.

Kind of like the link to Krafth. I dont see any reason to think he is superior to either of the RB's we have. Just seems sideways moves to make sideways moves in the guise of actual improvement upon the guys we already have.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Bimpy474 on Friday 2 August 2019, 10:14:18 PM
If we stick with 3 at the back these two won't clash in positions anyhoo, if we switch to 4 then they will.

Think we'll see them both, Dummett left centre half and Jetro left wing back, rotated with Ritchie in the wing back position.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: mofo on Friday 2 August 2019, 10:15:16 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.

Wrong.

Dummett was fine last season.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 2 August 2019, 10:15:28 PM
If we stick with 3 at the back these two won't clash in positions anyhoo, if we switch to 4 then they will.

Think we'll see them both, Dummett left centre half and Jetro left wing back, rotated with Ritchie in the wing back position.

We have 4 centre halves better than PD though. 5 actually.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: number9shirt on Friday 2 August 2019, 10:32:13 PM
Finally Jetro is a Geordie. Bas Dost next...
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: LV on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:21:39 PM
Then Kuyt.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:40:07 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.

Wrong.

He's an awful footballer. Contributes absolutely nothing other than being a stopper.  If he wasn't a local lad he'd get way more criticism. 

If we can improve on him we absolutely should.

Wrong.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Ian W on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:40:14 PM
Why spend when you can lend? (TM)
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:40:31 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.

Wrong.

He's an awful footballer. Contributes absolutely nothing other than being a stopper.  If he wasn't a local lad he'd get way more criticism. 

If we can improve on him we absolutely should.

The premise of your argument is sound. No doubt we should look to improve. My issue, and Im not sure if there was extenuating circumstances as to why it happened, but Timmy Chandler (RB) was getting time above Willems at LB. Considering Chandler couldnt get a look in, while in his prime, over Yedlin going back over the last few years for USA. That is why I am reluctant to think this is an upgrade at all.

Kind of like the link to Krafth. I dont see any reason to think he is superior to either of the RB's we have. Just seems sideways moves to make sideways moves in the guise of actual improvement upon the guys we already have.

:thup:
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:44:18 PM
Why spend when you can lend? (TM)

Why spend at all (if you have a world class manager).
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:45:11 PM
Just seen this on Newcastle’s Facebook feed after the Willems announcement. No irony or hint that he’s joking...

“Won’t get a look in, Dummett’s a top class premier league left back who would get in any side with the exception of Liverpool.“
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Ian W on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:46:37 PM
It’s a bit like the racists and Brexit voters I suppose... it’s better we know they’re out there.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:48:21 PM
Just seen this on Newcastle’s Facebook feed after the Willems announcement. No irony or hint that he’s joking...

“Won’t get a look in, Dummett’s a top class premier league left back who would get in any side with the exception of Liverpool.“

Now that's ridiculous, but also is the same on here who think he's absolute dogshite.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:50:07 PM
He is dogshite.

The team second half of last season was transformed when we went to wing-backs and two ball playing CBs. Just having Ritchie on the left (who was slightly above average) comfortable on the ball made is so much better. Once Lejeune was injured and Dummett got back in the side, we lost a lot in the way we came out from defence.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Bimpy474 on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:54:56 PM
If we stick with 3 at the back these two won't clash in positions anyhoo, if we switch to 4 then they will.

Think we'll see them both, Dummett left centre half and Jetro left wing back, rotated with Ritchie in the wing back position.

We have 4 centre halves better than PD though. 5 actually.

Aye but one is injured and you need at least 5 to cover 3 positions, common sense to have decent cover.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 2 August 2019, 11:56:01 PM
He is dogshite.

The team second half of last season was transformed when we went to wing-backs and two ball playing CBs. Just having Ritchie on the left (who was slightly above average) comfortable on the ball made is so much better. Once Lejeune was injured and Dummett got back in the side, we lost a lot in the way we came out from defence.

 

He's not dogshite.  Absolute hyperbole to the max.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: tinoasprilla on Saturday 3 August 2019, 12:00:48 AM
Agree that dummet is gash. Hate the way he has to be square on to the ball to control it. Then his passing which to be fair has improved is still awful
 
Plus hes always injured for half the season
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 3 August 2019, 12:09:27 AM
He is dogshite.

The team second half of last season was transformed when we went to wing-backs and two ball playing CBs. Just having Ritchie on the left (who was slightly above average) comfortable on the ball made is so much better. Once Lejeune was injured and Dummett got back in the side, we lost a lot in the way we came out from defence.

 

He's not dogshite.  Absolute hyperbole to the max.

Your very next post.

People giving a single f*** about any signing man..have a f***ing word.

I feel like I’m watching another team make signings. I feel nothing.

Same, but TBF this guy falling out with Big Steve could provide some light entertainment.
:thup: If he's going to be a pain in the arse to manage, he gets my vote.

This x 1000.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 3 August 2019, 12:11:20 AM
He is dogshite.

The team second half of last season was transformed when we went to wing-backs and two ball playing CBs. Just having Ritchie on the left (who was slightly above average) comfortable on the ball made is so much better. Once Lejeune was injured and Dummett got back in the side, we lost a lot in the way we came out from defence.

 

He's not dogshite.  Absolute hyperbole to the max.

Your very next post.

People giving a single f*** about any signing man..have a f***ing word.

I feel like I’m watching another team make signings. I feel nothing.

Same, but TBF this guy falling out with Big Steve could provide some light entertainment.
:thup: If he's going to be a pain in the arse to manage, he gets my vote.

This x 1000.

As if they are the same context.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 3 August 2019, 12:12:43 AM
Dummett is the epitome of Mike Ashley’s Newcastle. Local, not good enough, but a section of the fans lap it up still.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: The Prophet on Saturday 3 August 2019, 12:30:50 AM
Six years in the making, we've monitored the f*** out of this lad.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 3 August 2019, 01:58:13 AM
Would like to think Jetro can surprise us. However the fact it's already been mentioned he is here as backup to dummett isnt a great sign.

Likewise how often to players that plummet from early promise come back. Especially here.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Hhtoon on Saturday 3 August 2019, 02:02:45 AM
Just seen this on Newcastle’s Facebook feed after the Willems announcement. No irony or hint that he’s joking...

“Won’t get a look in, Dummett’s a top class premier league left back who would get in any side with the exception of Liverpool.“

I'd say there is a massive dose of irony going on there.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Disco on Saturday 3 August 2019, 02:13:24 AM
Nut v Dummett versus Wullie v Duff...
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 3 August 2019, 03:02:17 AM
nut going OFF on PD. Lord.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: TRon on Saturday 3 August 2019, 07:36:57 AM
Would like to think Jetro can surprise us. However the fact it's already been mentioned he is here as backup to dummett isnt a great sign.

Likewise how often to players that plummet from early promise come back. Especially here.

Not sure where this idea has come from that he has been bought as a back up. More accurate to say that we didn't want to spend what it took on an upgrade so a few million on a player who can fight for the spot is probably more like it. If he's decent on the ball, that would give us the wing back option which we were missing on the left.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: HTT on Saturday 3 August 2019, 08:54:42 AM
Feels like we finally got Brett Emerton over the line with this one.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: SheikhShearer on Saturday 3 August 2019, 11:06:20 AM
Just seen this on Newcastle’s Facebook feed after the Willems announcement. No irony or hint that he’s joking...

“Won’t get a look in, Dummett’s a top class premier league left back who would get in any side with the exception of Liverpool.“

Just saw this belter, probably from the same bloke!

"Another face for Dummett to see off and prove - yet again - that he’s the best left back we’ve had and will have as other left backs come and go"
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: James on Saturday 3 August 2019, 11:48:58 AM
Nut,

Rafa got rid of a number of players but not Dummett. Why?
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 3 August 2019, 11:57:52 AM
Jetro jetro man, you gotta be a jetro man!
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Teslact on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:31:54 PM
Is this Jetro Willems by John Anderson, or did the band get back together?
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: TRon on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:34:38 PM
Nut,

Rafa got rid of a number of players but not Dummett. Why?

He's a solid defender basically. Rafa would prefer a full back who can play I would imagine, maybe he just didn't rate the scout recommendations.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: triggs on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:36:17 PM
Nut,

Rafa got rid of a number of players but not Dummett. Why?
Full backs weren't Rafa's strong point tbf

I think Dummett is a very good squad player
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:37:52 PM
Nut,

Rafa got rid of a number of players but not Dummett. Why?

He signed Lazaar, he tried to sign Targett, Lukaku, Tagliafico, Bryan,etc.

Suggests he wanted to replace him but was never allowed.

Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: AY on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:45:49 PM
I dont really understand this hate for Dummett. He was decent last season, not great, but as a left footer is a useful player and probably pretty cheap. Manquillo and Yedlin are much worse.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 3 August 2019, 05:47:53 PM
Manq looks like a man reborn at wing back compared to full back.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Joey Linton on Saturday 3 August 2019, 08:27:32 PM
Don't know much about him, but anything that sees Dummett further away from the starting 11 is good news.

Wrong.

He's an awful footballer. Contributes absolutely nothing other than being a stopper.  If he wasn't a local lad he'd get way more criticism. 

If we can improve on him we absolutely should.

Wrong.

We shouldn't improve on him if we can?  Are you a special kind of stupid?
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Joey Linton on Saturday 3 August 2019, 08:34:21 PM
Nut,

Rafa got rid of a number of players but not Dummett. Why?

Because Lazaar turned out to be dreadful.  No doubt he was initially signed as a direct replacement.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 3 August 2019, 10:30:59 PM
Aye, I’ve listed players we wanted to sign in his position since Rafa came in. It’s hardly as though he didn’t try to replace him.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 14 September 2019, 04:15:51 PM
Loads of quality this guy. He'll be a huge upgrade on Ritchie provided he gets time and isn't just dropped the second angry scotsman is back.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: TRon on Saturday 14 September 2019, 04:47:33 PM
Just nice to see someone show a bit of skill and hit a good strike. All the goals were quality, only difference is Liverpool get to see it every week because they buy good players.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 14 September 2019, 05:03:44 PM
He’s more confident in the box than any of our players.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: HTT on Saturday 14 September 2019, 05:07:16 PM
I don’t want to take anything away from what looked a cracking goal from the lad which he manufactured on his own using his skill and was fully deserving to see it hit the back of the net. But the keeper stretching his dive to reach the shot leading with his right arm and not his left instead was a mistake and an example of poor goalkeeping IMO. Their number 1 would have tipped it around for a corner I’m sure. Or maybe not...
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Heron on Saturday 14 September 2019, 05:54:02 PM
The goal is clouding judgement for me like. He does well to engineer the space for the shot, defender should have been tighter and not shown him inside from such a position. I don't know enough about goalkeeping but suspect HTT is correct, whilst maybe being harsh as it was very snap-shot.

Willem misplaced numerous passes throughout from the edge of our third. It caused unnecessary pressure and whilst that was a common theme throughout the squad it also doesn't mean he was exempt cause he scored a half decent goal.

Defensively looks fairly solid, good tackler, needs more time to bed in I think. Certainly looks a long shot more ready than Krafth.

Pet hate: People going on about the use of his weak foot in this instance. He's had one intention and that was to engineer a shot on goal, he achieved it and achieved it well. Any player at Premier League level should be hitting the target from there. That's not to say it wasn't a good goal, it was just good for his creativity to make and take the chance, not to hit it with his wrong foot.

He was nowhere near as effective as Ritchie today from a more wholeistic point of view but nor would I expect him to be.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 14 September 2019, 05:57:27 PM
He looks clumsy and a liability.

Forget the goal.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 14 September 2019, 10:34:47 PM
Great finish.

There's a reason why he's at nufc at not at his current club.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: TRon on Sunday 15 September 2019, 12:18:45 AM
Great finish.

There's a reason why he's at nufc at not at his current club.

What is that reason?

Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: tinoasprilla on Sunday 15 September 2019, 12:20:17 AM
The goal is clouding judgement for me like. He does well to engineer the space for the shot, defender should have been tighter and not shown him inside from such a position. I don't know enough about goalkeeping but suspect HTT is correct, whilst maybe being harsh as it was very snap-shot.

Willem misplaced numerous passes throughout from the edge of our third. It caused unnecessary pressure and whilst that was a common theme throughout the squad it also doesn't mean he was exempt cause he scored a half decent goal.

Defensively looks fairly solid, good tackler, needs more time to bed in I think. Certainly looks a long shot more ready than Krafth.

Pet hate: People going on about the use of his weak foot in this instance. He's had one intention and that was to engineer a shot on goal, he achieved it and achieved it well. Any player at Premier League level should be hitting the target from there. That's not to say it wasn't a good goal, it was just good for his creativity to make and take the chance, not to hit it with his wrong foot.

He was nowhere near as effective as Ritchie today from a more wholeistic point of view but nor would I expect him to be.

He will be a million times better than Ritchie
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 15 September 2019, 03:37:32 AM
I’ve seen enough the last two games to think he’s an upgrade on Ritchie like. Wouldn’t expect much against Liverpool at the best of times but thought he was excellent v Watford.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: themanupstairs on Sunday 15 September 2019, 08:33:04 AM
The goal is clouding judgement for me like. He does well to engineer the space for the shot, defender should have been tighter and not shown him inside from such a position. I don't know enough about goalkeeping but suspect HTT is correct, whilst maybe being harsh as it was very snap-shot.

Willem misplaced numerous passes throughout from the edge of our third. It caused unnecessary pressure and whilst that was a common theme throughout the squad it also doesn't mean he was exempt cause he scored a half decent goal.

Defensively looks fairly solid, good tackler, needs more time to bed in I think. Certainly looks a long shot more ready than Krafth.

Pet hate: People going on about the use of his weak foot in this instance. He's had one intention and that was to engineer a shot on goal, he achieved it and achieved it well. Any player at Premier League level should be hitting the target from there. That's not to say it wasn't a good goal, it was just good for his creativity to make and take the chance, not to hit it with his wrong foot.

He was nowhere near as effective as Ritchie today from a more wholeistic point of view but nor would I expect him to be.

 :bruce:
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: ATF on Sunday 15 September 2019, 10:50:23 AM
I don’t want to take anything away from what looked a cracking goal from the lad which he manufactured on his own using his skill and was fully deserving to see it hit the back of the net. But the keeper stretching his dive to reach the shot leading with his right arm and not his left instead was a mistake and an example of poor goalkeeping IMO. Their number 1 would have tipped it around for a corner I’m sure. Or maybe not...
Wrong on all counts. Against a shot destined for the top left corner, the keeper can reach higher with his right arm than his left arm which is underneath. And the power on the shot would have made it very difficult for any keeper in the world to tip it round the corner.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 15 September 2019, 12:32:39 PM
Odd bunch here. He constantly tried to make things work in an attacking sense and made some good challenges etc. scored a goal showing 0 fear like many of our players do and you still find a way to criticize.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: KaKa on Sunday 15 September 2019, 12:45:48 PM
They're not ready to give up on their assertion that he is fat and slow and another cheap rubbish signing.

Thought he performed really well in a tough game away at Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 15 September 2019, 01:00:42 PM
Delivered a peach of a cross to almiron as well
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 15 September 2019, 01:20:00 PM
Think it’s more just the negative atmosphere around NUFC really.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 15 September 2019, 01:20:45 PM
Can't take him serious with that poor excuse of a beard.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: HTT on Sunday 15 September 2019, 06:06:44 PM
I don’t want to take anything away from what looked a cracking goal from the lad which he manufactured on his own using his skill and was fully deserving to see it hit the back of the net. But the keeper stretching his dive to reach the shot leading with his right arm and not his left instead was a mistake and an example of poor goalkeeping IMO. Their number 1 would have tipped it around for a corner I’m sure. Or maybe not...
Wrong on all counts. Against a shot destined for the top left corner, the keeper can reach higher with his right arm than his left arm which is underneath. And the power on the shot would have made it very difficult for any keeper in the world to tip it round the corner.

My good mate is a top-class amateur ‘keeper and he says poor goalkeeping. Mind he was drunk...

Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 18 September 2019, 10:28:01 AM
I don’t want to take anything away from what looked a cracking goal from the lad which he manufactured on his own using his skill and was fully deserving to see it hit the back of the net. But the keeper stretching his dive to reach the shot leading with his right arm and not his left instead was a mistake and an example of poor goalkeeping IMO. Their number 1 would have tipped it around for a corner I’m sure. Or maybe not...
Wrong on all counts. Against a shot destined for the top left corner, the keeper can reach higher with his right arm than his left arm which is underneath. And the power on the shot would have made it very difficult for any keeper in the world to tip it round the corner.

My good mate is a top-class amateur ‘keeper and he says poor goalkeeping. Mind he was drunk...



He absolutely had to go with his right arm there - if you twist your body in the air, you can reach further (literally, the width of your shoulders). And if you're right handed, you'd train that skill especially, because even stretching with your left wouldn't be as strong.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: duo on Sunday 6 October 2019, 06:48:16 PM
Makes the difference to us this lad  :thup:
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: TRon on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:10:57 PM
It's funny, before the goal I was going to mention that he hadn't been in the game much, but he has some real quality about him if we can get him bombing on a bit more. A lot of that goal was down to him, fabulous footwork.
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: tinoasprilla on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:20:29 PM
Thought we looked better today with him and Yedelin at wingback
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:21:15 PM
Can’t wait to see Ritchie come in for him. :(
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Amir_9 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:27:02 PM
Hetero for Jetro.

Decent signing so far.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Big Geordie on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:28:18 PM
Yup - put a shift in and great play for the goal. :thup:
Title: Re: Official: Jetro Willems joins NUFC on loan
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:28:49 PM
Think he’ll get about 4-5 goals too. Seems to be at least once a match where the ball seems to end up at his feet just inside the box. Not all fall perfectly but there’ll be a few more this season where I can see him taking a touch and smashing it in.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Bimpy474 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 07:31:05 PM
Think he looks quite good myself, once he's up to speed in our league i reckon he'll kick on.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Sunday 6 October 2019, 10:32:33 PM
His footwork is so agile and he's so physically impressive. Polar opposite of Ritchie.

Just know Ritchie will still be first choice though.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:24:22 PM
much better today. really stepped up.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:25:59 PM
Offensively good, not sure on his defending.

10x better than signing krathwerk.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: D. Yimentov on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:33:22 PM
His gait reminds me of Geremi. Looks like he needs a bit WD-40 round his knees and elbows. Canny feet mind.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Sho'Time on Sunday 6 October 2019, 11:41:36 PM
He still reminds me of Cacapa for some reason. Very nifty with the ball at his feet, mind.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 7 October 2019, 12:15:30 PM
His skills on the ball are really quite impressive, he is a much better option for us than Ritchie.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Monday 7 October 2019, 01:11:30 PM
he hasn’t gotten a chance to do free kicks yet but he used to take them at PSV
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Monday 7 October 2019, 05:02:25 PM
Kanji :thup: ;) Good skills from Jetro. Starting to find some form again. Would probably be great in a 5-aside team with his technical ability in tight situations.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: KaKa on Monday 7 October 2019, 05:35:08 PM
Another that was ridiculed early on :lol:

Now everyone is smitten. Stop it.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 7 October 2019, 07:46:50 PM
Can't work out if he's good or s***, prob somewhere inbetween.

Already a goal and assist.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: huss9 on Monday 7 October 2019, 10:34:03 PM
really quick feet, and loves a chop.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 7 October 2019, 10:35:34 PM
Me too, had lamb ones today.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 8 October 2019, 03:26:03 AM
Kanji :thup: ;) Good skills from Jetro. Starting to find some form again. Would probably be great in a 5-aside team with his technical ability in tight situations.

Ikon, you need to go back and look through my posts to you about signing him (finally) if you haven’t already :lol: I’m happy you’re back brotha!
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Menace on Tuesday 8 October 2019, 07:38:48 AM
I wonder how much Frankfurt would want for him
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 8 October 2019, 08:16:47 AM
£6-8m I’d guess.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Sho'Time on Tuesday 8 October 2019, 08:23:36 AM
Would be a decent buy for the Championship next season.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 8 October 2019, 12:37:23 PM
There's already a set price with the loan. Got to take it imo.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 9 October 2019, 03:14:09 PM
There's already a set price with the loan. Got to take it imo.

Aye, no brainer.  He's a big upgrade on what we had.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: La Parka on Friday 11 October 2019, 09:00:03 AM
Sorry jetro. I doubted you.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 11 October 2019, 11:23:20 AM
I'm still sceptical. He see-saw's from woeful to handy too often.

Will be interesting to see if he can be arsed to drag us out the s**** when we're in the relegation zone come christmas.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: STM on Friday 11 October 2019, 11:43:11 AM
I just think he washt fit in his first couple of outings. I blame Bruce.

Hes nicely into things at the moment. He can actually play football which is a massive bonus to a football team like.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 11 October 2019, 12:12:49 PM
Looks a natural wing back
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: joeyt on Friday 11 October 2019, 01:30:58 PM
I'm still sceptical. He see-saw's from woeful to handy too often.

Will be interesting to see if he can be arsed to drag us out the s**** when we're in the relegation zone come christmas.

If we're relying on a left wing back to be the one to drag us out of the s*** then we'll be in serious trouble.  Seems a bit of an odd character attack on him
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 11 October 2019, 01:32:04 PM
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 11 October 2019, 02:35:06 PM
I'm still sceptical. He see-saw's from woeful to handy too often.

Will be interesting to see if he can be arsed to drag us out the s**** when we're in the relegation zone come christmas.

If we're relying on a left wing back to be the one to drag us out of the s*** then we'll be in serious trouble.  Seems a bit of an odd character attack on him

We'll be reliant on everybody, though. If one player gives up the fight then we're f***ed. Does seem strange to single him out in this way.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 16 October 2019, 04:25:29 AM
Chronicle quoting German media saying the option to buy fee is £10m and that we’re keen to activate it. Hope we do.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 16 October 2019, 04:41:12 AM
Loosely related, was seeing what Gregory van der Wiel was up to. His career didn’t half nosedive. Still only 31 but without a club since leaving Toronto FC. Thought he was going to be a star.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 16 October 2019, 09:01:19 AM
In todays market that's peanuts and we'll be daft not to. However, we're just f***ing daft so whatever. We'll likely spend the next 6 month trying to haggle them down to 7 or 8.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 2 November 2019, 08:30:13 PM
Another very good performance from him. Nice assist, but all-round his game is impressive.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 2 November 2019, 08:44:52 PM
he's got to try getting a level of consistency, but then again that applies to most of this team.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sh74 on Saturday 2 November 2019, 09:26:29 PM
Been a good signing.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 2 November 2019, 09:45:30 PM
loan?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 2 November 2019, 10:26:04 PM
Was being called worse than s**** after 5 minutes as well. :lol:

Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 2 November 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Was being called worse than s**** after 5 minutes as well. :lol:

*puts hand up*
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 2 November 2019, 10:33:02 PM
loan?

With a reasonable fee in the loan deal. Less than 10m from memory
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: durhamunigeordie on Sunday 3 November 2019, 09:31:24 AM
Good performance yesterday. Seems to be getting better each game.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toon25 on Sunday 3 November 2019, 09:34:58 AM
Makes a big difference to have someone mobile and that can pass the ball.

Wonder where Ritchie will be shoehorned in when he’s fit
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: madras on Sunday 3 November 2019, 09:37:35 AM
Makes a big difference to have someone mobile and that can pass the ball.

Wonder where Ritchie will be shoehorned in when he’s fit
Not what I'd do but 5-3-2 dropping Almiron, Bringing Ritchie on the left of the 3.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 3 November 2019, 10:45:06 AM
Goodbye counter attack
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Menace on Sunday 3 November 2019, 11:02:41 AM
Sell Ritchie buy Jetro.

Surely we could get £8-10M for Ritchie
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: TRon on Monday 4 November 2019, 03:26:55 PM
Makes a big difference to have someone mobile and that can pass the ball.

Wonder where Ritchie will be shoehorned in when he’s fit

Is he actually mobile? Maybe it's just his body shape but he doesn't appear to be that quick. Great feet though.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: STM on Monday 4 November 2019, 05:27:58 PM
I think hes mint. His decision making on the ball is excellent.

Would have had about 10 more assists/key passes had he had better players in front of him finishing things off.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: tinoasprilla on Monday 4 November 2019, 08:26:53 PM
Sell Ritchie buy Jetro.

Surely we could get £8-10M for Ritchie

Totally agree with this
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 4 November 2019, 08:29:23 PM
Why does it have to be one or the other?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 5 November 2019, 12:13:24 PM
Ritchie’s good cover. Willems has earned the shirt though imo. Decent enough at the back and probably more dangerous in attack than Ritchie.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Joe_F on Saturday 9 November 2019, 05:58:00 PM
Love him.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:03:55 PM
Harshly blamed initially for their goal.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:05:47 PM
Doubted this signing at first but he's given us much balance at the fullback position.  Fair play.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:12:21 PM
Looking better with each game. Makes the Arsenal fiasco all the more embarrassing.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: STM on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:15:09 PM
Sign him now. Hes worth double the price we have agreed.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:37:19 PM
Really like his shooting technique with either foot. Rarely skies it
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:39:22 PM
I’ve been saying for an eternity how good he is. I’m glad he’s risen to the challenge in the PL. love this player.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:39:29 PM
Looking better with each game. Makes the Arsenal fiasco all the more embarrassing.

Meanwhile Paully D was nearly dropping us in it again with that sort of pass.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Marmoset on Saturday 9 November 2019, 06:39:44 PM
Harshly blamed initially for their goal.

Dummet would've got there  ;) 
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: steve_69 on Saturday 9 November 2019, 07:13:27 PM
Harshly blamed initially for their goal.

Dummet would've got there  ;) 

Watching it back, it looks like he was blocked/checked by a Bournemouth defender which is why he lost his man.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: reefatoon on Saturday 9 November 2019, 07:17:19 PM
Harshly blamed initially for their goal.

Wouldn’t really say it was harsh, he had already lost his man before being blocked off. Was caught a little flat footed I thought. Had a great game though and gets right up the pitch when we get forward.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 9 November 2019, 07:28:58 PM
Harshly blamed initially for their goal.

Wouldn’t really say it was harsh, he had already lost his man before being blocked off. Was caught a little flat footed I thought. Had a great game though and gets right up the pitch when we get forward.

Had Wilson not stepped in front of him he’d have got to him easily.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: STM on Saturday 9 November 2019, 07:40:40 PM
It was a great move for their corner. Got to give them credit.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Saturday 9 November 2019, 07:46:35 PM
I’ve been saying for an eternity how good he is. I’m glad he’s risen to the challenge in the PL. love this player.

That makes two of us mate :) :thup:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 10 November 2019, 01:07:05 AM
I’ve been saying for an eternity how good he is. I’m glad he’s risen to the challenge in the PL. love this player.

That makes two of us mate :) :thup:

100%. You and I have been on the Jetro bandwagon since the PSV days.

In all seriousness he gets up the pitch and is a genuine attacking threat via carrying the ball, crossing or shooting on goal. Usually gets it on target every time too. He used to take a ton of set pieces at PSV, would love to see him hit some corners.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Marmoset on Sunday 10 November 2019, 09:17:09 AM
Yeah he's been a big improvement, suits the role really well.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 14 November 2019, 11:30:53 AM
In all seriousness he gets up the pitch and is a genuine attacking threat via carrying the ball, crossing or shooting on goal. Usually gets it on target every time too. He used to take a ton of set pieces at PSV, would love to see him hit some corners.

i'm not 100% sold on the guy but said i'd like to see someone competent instead of ritchie in the LWB role as i think we'd look much better for it and i reckon i'm right

ritchie has his strengths but i never felt comfortable with his overall use of the ball in that role, thought he got his head down too much and ignored a lot of good passing opportunities
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 14 November 2019, 12:22:35 PM
We’ve only conceded a goal every 83 minutes with Willems playing so it’s hardly like we’re leaking goals when he plays, and he looks a genuine threat almost every game. He has to play imo, quality player.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: TRon on Saturday 30 November 2019, 01:18:03 PM
Goal apart, one thing which really sets Jetro apart from the rest of the team, is that he is a pretty good footballer.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 30 November 2019, 02:06:06 PM
Very good close feet.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: samptime29 on Saturday 30 November 2019, 02:36:10 PM
Really like this guy - been very consistent.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 30 November 2019, 02:38:55 PM
Was written off as a fat mess 10 mins into his debut. Never forget.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 30 November 2019, 02:46:51 PM
Was written off as a fat mess 10 mins into his debut. Never forget.

He got better, Dummett's ability to weight a pass hasn't unfortunately.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 30 November 2019, 03:27:05 PM
Sign him up
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 30 November 2019, 03:30:33 PM
I thought he was older than 25.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 30 November 2019, 04:32:56 PM
Also there's got to be a massive f***ing asterisk next to his name when listing goals scored by defenders. He could easily be playing further forward.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 30 November 2019, 05:03:06 PM
He was a step or two faster before the injuries too FYI
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 30 November 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Also there's got to be a massive f***ing asterisk next to his name when listing goals scored by defenders. He could easily be playing further forward.

Could have had about 3 more this season too. He gets at least one chance like that a game and seems to work the keeper or go close.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: triggs on Saturday 30 November 2019, 05:37:11 PM
I thought he was older than 25.
Played left back for Holland at Euro 2012 at 17
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 30 November 2019, 11:05:56 PM
Finish.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Sunday 1 December 2019, 11:12:31 AM
Awesome footballer. Technically, he's world class.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 1 December 2019, 11:20:55 AM
We need to make this permanent in January like.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 1 December 2019, 11:34:18 AM
Awesome footballer. Technically, he's world class.

100%
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 1 December 2019, 11:43:47 AM
Possibly one of the top 5 left backs in the league. Hugely impressive all-round footballer.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: TRon on Sunday 1 December 2019, 11:53:07 AM
Awesome footballer. Technically, he's world class.

The game is quite simple really, you buy good footballers and you tend to produce good football. Can you imagine us scoring that goal with Dummett at left back?

We don't have good possession stats because we don't have enough players with that technical abilty. Also Willems has football intelligence to go with that skill. He's not going to run down blind alleys like some of our more gifted players.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Sunday 1 December 2019, 12:00:12 PM
Agree with everything said, especially the intelligence bit.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 1 December 2019, 12:51:14 PM
His intelligence and footballing ability is mainly why he was so highly rated at a young age. Injuries sort of ruined his career a bit, but he’s really flourished for us. He’s also your classically gifted all around Dutch player too. He’s just good at mostly everything.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 1 December 2019, 12:52:07 PM
Reminds me of Anita in that respect.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 1 December 2019, 12:52:11 PM
Also @Ikon and I get to finally see him play for us - f***ing years of wishing about it :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: triggs on Sunday 1 December 2019, 01:15:35 PM
Reminds me of Anita in that respect.
Christ
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Sunday 1 December 2019, 01:47:46 PM
Also @Ikon and I get to finally see him play for us - f***ing years of wishing about it :lol:

Yeah we've been tiresome, going on about him :lol: Just wish it would have been under different circumstances, like ambition and all that..
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Sunday 1 December 2019, 03:40:03 PM
Reminds me of Anita in that respect.
Christ

Insulting to Jetro that.  :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: madras on Sunday 1 December 2019, 03:44:38 PM
Reminds me of Anita in that respect.
Christ

Insulting to Jetro that.  :lol:
Anita or Christ ?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: KaKa on Sunday 1 December 2019, 08:36:44 PM
Reminds me of Anita in that respect.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/f79dc86e65ed6357e10fcbf30561d87e/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Monday 2 December 2019, 05:54:12 AM
class player, class middle name
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 03:51:06 PM
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 05:02:35 PM
That’s frigging class. :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 06:17:26 PM
Play him up front.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Wilson on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 06:55:05 PM
What the f*** was that :lol:

I didn't even notice that on the day.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 07:59:06 PM
That’s goal of the game for me after seeing that, if that’d been Bergkamp or someone...
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: CPL on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:22:04 PM
Did he mean to flick it up or flick it on ?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:25:59 PM
If he didn't mean to do that then he adjusted incredibly quickly and calmly like :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Astroblack on Tuesday 3 December 2019, 09:33:25 PM
I think he did mean it. His foot follows through in that upward direction after the initial contact.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Wallsendmag on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 04:26:20 AM
Reminds me of Anita in that respect.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 04:44:24 PM
This does it so much more justice. :fwap:

Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: James on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:20:47 PM
Reminds me of Anita in that respect.

Look, Anita was probably one of the worst players to have made it to fifty games for this club. Was complete cack as a CM plus a barely passable back up full back.

His only redeeming feature was that he wasn’t Colback
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:24:29 PM
Anita wasn't THAT bad, England was probably the worst league for him to play in though, he probably would have been ok if he stayed in Holland, or played for a mid table Spanish team.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: James on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:32:19 PM
Anita wasn't THAT bad, England was probably the worst league for him to play in though, he probably would have been ok if he stayed in Holland, or played for a mid table Spanish team.

Aged just 30 he has been a free agent since the summer having been released by Leeds following an unsuccessful loan spell at Willem II
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:38:11 PM
Always liked Vurn
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: James on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:44:01 PM
Why?

He was an absolutely pathetic player, even as a CM in The Championship.

Only counting PL appearances he had one of our all time worst win % as an individual.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:45:12 PM
He never played CM in the Championship
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: James on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:50:33 PM
He did, the first two games, lost both and he was terrible. Rafa never played him in midfield ever again.

He chose Colback ahead of him, that is how bad he was.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:53:22 PM
He played right mid in those games not CM

He was decent at right back in the Championship but overall a disappointing signing
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:57:10 PM
Was also s**** at Leeds
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: mozy on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 06:58:21 PM
The old Colback vs Anita debate, those were the days.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 07:13:16 PM
Had a crackin' arse.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 07:42:11 PM
I don't care how passable as a championship full back he was. He's nowhere near Willems in any way.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 09:57:03 PM
I was joking FWIW.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Willow on Wednesday 4 December 2019, 10:07:04 PM
How much would this guy cost? Was it a full season loan?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 5 December 2019, 12:00:52 AM
Anita was technically a pretty handy footballer.

s**** otherwise mind. Not anywhere near physical enough
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: TRC on Thursday 5 December 2019, 12:49:11 PM
Wasn't he really good in the West Ham win that kept us up?


Love Willems like
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 5 December 2019, 09:28:58 PM
He's a top class left-back, how we got him so easily is beyond me, we must try to get him on a full time basis
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Thursday 5 December 2019, 09:33:35 PM
One of our best players, if not the best, together with Lejeune, Schar and maybe Dubs.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: sh74 on Thursday 5 December 2019, 09:51:26 PM
That nutmeg second half. :naughty:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 5 December 2019, 10:13:29 PM
One of our best players, if not the best, together with Lejeune, Schar and maybe Dubs.

Beggining to feel like we might not see two of them again.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Friday 6 December 2019, 05:21:40 PM
https://instagram.com/stories/jwillems15/2192916522446872008?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=1eyk6vo9geb6h (https://instagram.com/stories/jwillems15/2192916522446872008?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=1eyk6vo9geb6h)
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Friday 6 December 2019, 05:22:48 PM
Loved that nutmeg during the game. Class!
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: SteV on Monday 23 December 2019, 10:29:43 AM
Do we know what is/was wrong with him?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 23 December 2019, 10:31:43 AM
Groin injury, expected to be fit for Man Utd game.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: SteV on Monday 23 December 2019, 10:36:30 AM
Groin injury, expected to be fit for Man Utd game.

 O0
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 23 December 2019, 10:44:37 AM
Groin injury, expected to be fit for Man Utd game.

 O0

I reckon he'll be on bench for Man Utd game, start Everton game.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: SteV on Monday 23 December 2019, 10:48:51 AM
Groin injury, expected to be fit for Man Utd game.

 O0

I reckon he'll be on bench for Man Utd game, start Everton game.

Who's LWB if Dummett's knackered as well though? Could play Yedlin or Krafth there if required I suppose.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 23 December 2019, 10:54:01 AM
Groin injury, expected to be fit for Man Utd game.

 O0

I reckon he'll be on bench for Man Utd game, start Everton game.

Who's LWB if Dummett's knackered as well though? Could play Yedlin or Krafth there if required I suppose.

Yeah that's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 23 December 2019, 12:07:58 PM
Another plus point from Saturday with him being out was that it got Lejeune’s foot back in the door. You’d surely think when Willems is fit that we’ve finally fallen on our best defence?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Monday 23 December 2019, 02:45:15 PM
Willems - Lejeune - Fede - Schar - Manquillo
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toontownman on Monday 23 December 2019, 04:41:52 PM
Willems - Lejeune - Fede - Schar - Manquillo
Yummy.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 23 December 2019, 05:05:25 PM
I love Fernandez but I think Lascelles just edges it. He’ll have to wait for his slot in the team to open up though. I remember when he got the injury that people were worried we’d miss his leadership skills (similar to Ritchie) but I don’t think we’ve missed either of them in the first XI.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Monday 23 December 2019, 05:08:46 PM
We really need so sort out our CM, as we can't control that area of the pitch at all. Shelvey has scored a few goals but he's definitely not the solution Imo.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 23 December 2019, 05:13:55 PM
If we can offload Ki and sign a midfielder I think they could maintain a top 10 finish.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: madras on Monday 23 December 2019, 05:18:48 PM
I know Palace allowed us to funnel the ball to Dummett but imagine Willems or Ritchie with the opportunities we had out left on Saturday.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Odear on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:01:07 PM
Cruciate ligament injury. I think that could well have been his last game for the club.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: cubaricho on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:07:58 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: chopey on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:30:37 PM
Ashley straight in with a £100k bid
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Cruciate ligament injury. I think that could well have been his last game for the club.

Has it been confirmed yet?

Gutted to lose him. My favourite NUFC player atm alongside Miggy
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Just a propheteer on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:46:32 PM
Cruciate ligament injury. I think that could well have been his last game for the club.

Has it been confirmed yet?

Gutted to lose him. My favourite NUFC player atm alongside Miggy

Same. huge blow
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:47:55 PM
What’s Jordan Lukaku up to?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:49:09 PM
Or Barreca
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 18 January 2020, 10:54:30 PM
If true sad for him, been very good
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Gorilla on Saturday 18 January 2020, 11:01:14 PM
Cruciate ligament injury. I think that could well have been his last game for the club.

Has it been confirmed yet?

Gutted to lose him. My favourite NUFC player atm alongside Miggy

Same. huge blow
Massive, he has been excellent and key this season.  You don't get a left back like him for under 20M.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Saturday 18 January 2020, 11:11:28 PM
Total bugger that if it’s his ACL, 6 months minimum realistically
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Odear on Sunday 19 January 2020, 04:03:33 AM
Cruciate ligament injury. I think that could well have been his last game for the club.

Has it been confirmed yet?

Gutted to lose him. My favourite NUFC player atm alongside Miggy

Just going by what Bruce has said in an interview after the game. It looked quite innocuous at the time which usually means it’s going to be serious.

And yeah, gutted for him. He’s been a major upgrade on Dummett. We’re lucky Rafa got Ritchie used to playing LWB because we’ll need him there now.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: t00nraider on Sunday 19 January 2020, 11:42:05 AM
Can we cancel his contract?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Sunday 19 January 2020, 11:49:52 AM
We'd lose the option to buy him, so f*** that.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 19 January 2020, 12:18:32 PM
Gutted over this injury. Love this player.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 19 January 2020, 12:33:00 PM
gonna be a cheeky £3m bid going in from charnley to exploit his injury.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Just a propheteer on Sunday 19 January 2020, 12:33:45 PM
Huge loss. Our most important player alongside Saint and Almiron
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Ikon on Sunday 19 January 2020, 01:57:58 PM
Gutted over this injury. Love this player.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 19 January 2020, 03:17:28 PM
Huge loss. Our most important player alongside Saint and Almiron

This. What a gutter. Been a pleasure but this is likely the end for him in a Newcastle shirt :*(
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 19 January 2020, 03:25:10 PM
Huge loss. Our most important player alongside Saint and Almiron

This. What a gutter. Been a pleasure but the his is likely the end for him in a Newcastle shirt :*(

Does he have a history of Injuries?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: TRon on Sunday 19 January 2020, 03:43:23 PM
Huge loss. Our most important player alongside Saint and Almiron

This. What a gutter. Been a pleasure but the his is likely the end for him in a Newcastle shirt :*(

Does he have a history of Injuries?

He does now. Should be more than enough to persuade Mike's stooges not to make the move permanent.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 19 January 2020, 03:44:59 PM
Huge loss. Our most important player alongside Saint and Almiron

This. What a gutter. Been a pleasure but the his is likely the end for him in a Newcastle shirt :*(

Does he have a history of Injuries?

He does now. Should be more than enough to persuade Mike's stooges not to make the move permanent.

I was thinking would he be a risk even after recovering from this - would be a good buy still for 8-12 million ish
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: xLiaaamx on Sunday 19 January 2020, 07:05:24 PM
If we don't terminate the loan it must mean we're still planning to buy him then?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 19 January 2020, 07:12:45 PM
If we don't terminate the loan it must mean we're still planning to buy him then?

Nope.

Only if clause is there that we can terminate.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: toon25 on Sunday 19 January 2020, 09:02:22 PM
I’d terminate my own loan if it meant I could get away from being treated by the medical dept here
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 19 January 2020, 09:15:57 PM
I’d terminate my own loan if it meant I could get away from being treated by the medical dept here

:lol: for those who've played Fallout 3, our medical dept is:

Spoiler
[close]
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 20 January 2020, 09:59:16 AM
Front ligament done. Out for 6 to 9 months :(
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Disco on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:02:57 AM
Farewell sweet prince.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: Wilson on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:10:38 AM
Fuckin hell.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: BergenMagpie on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:14:10 AM
So typical. Best left back we've had for ages. Hope he makes a full recovery for a long and successful career.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: Ian W on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:27:23 AM
Looked a bad one at the time.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems
Post by: joeyt on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:40:06 AM
Front ligament done. Out for 6 to 9 months :(

Was he in line for a potential Euros call up too?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:55:42 AM
Gutted for him. Deserves to be signed permanently and looks like we'll end the loan early.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: KaKa on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:59:06 AM
Has he had any previous knee issues?

If not I think we'll still get him, possibly at a reduced fee.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:01:52 AM
Has he had any previous knee issues?

If not I think we'll still get him, possibly at a reduced fee.

Why would the selling club sell at a reduce fee without looking into other suitors?  Especially since he's done well for us.  Will likely not be sorted until the next transfer window at the earliest, still might get him cheaper.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:08:15 AM
Has he had any previous knee issues?

If not I think we'll still get him, possibly at a reduced fee.

He has. Been out for half a year in 2016 with knee problems, although not sure if related.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: KaKa on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:22:57 AM
Has he had any previous knee issues?

If not I think we'll still get him, possibly at a reduced fee.

Why would the selling club sell at a reduce fee without looking into other suitors?  Especially since he's done well for us.  Will likely not be sorted until the next transfer window at the earliest, still might get him cheaper.

Yes, I meant we would get him cheaper, and not necessarily right now but perhaps come the summer.

Other suitors may well have been interested, but they're more likely to be turned off by the injury.

However, we'll be more likely to want to keep him as he has done so well and we're already familiar with him, and I am pretty certain he'll want to stay with us too.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: KaKa on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:23:51 AM
Has he had any previous knee issues?

If not I think we'll still get him, possibly at a reduced fee.

He has. Been out for half a year in 2016 with knee problems, although not sure if related.

Ah, okay. Might be an issue if it turns out it's a similar injury to the same knee.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems likely out for the rest of the season
Post by: sempuki on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:27:24 AM
Has he had any previous knee issues?

If not I think we'll still get him, possibly at a reduced fee.

He has. Been out for half a year in 2016 with knee problems, although not sure if related.
Poor bugger has had a number of knee injuries:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jetro-willems/verletzungen/spieler/146258
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Magpie on Monday 20 January 2020, 11:56:16 AM
Looked such an innocuous challenge aswell, shame.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Kanji on Monday 20 January 2020, 12:55:37 PM
Gutted for him. I’m sure he would have joined officially over the summer and it would have been a welcome addition to the squad. Seemingly was happy living in the city and playing his best stuff in some time.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: toon25 on Monday 20 January 2020, 01:06:14 PM
Absolutely f***ing gutted.

Was our only attacking threat in many a game gone by. Always an outlet.

f***ing hell.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Consortium of one on Monday 20 January 2020, 01:58:24 PM
Gutted for him.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: TRon on Monday 20 January 2020, 02:52:23 PM
Stands to reason. He's looked our best footballer by a distance.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: huss9 on Monday 20 January 2020, 03:19:22 PM
gutted for him, but every cloud.....
he may get a proper club once he's fixed.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 20 January 2020, 04:15:40 PM
Not in the least bit surprised that he's injured. Bruce has been too reliant on him. Same as ASM. And Almiron, but he seems to be unbreakable [we shall see, of course...].

He pulled up late in a game not so long back, and that should have been a sign he needed a rest, but no. I mean let's be honest, without him and ASM we had nowt going forward.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: joeyt on Monday 20 January 2020, 05:17:06 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jJX3KhcwX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 20 January 2020, 05:18:18 PM
Not in the least bit surprised that he's injured. Bruce has been too reliant on him. Same as ASM. And Almiron, but he seems to be unbreakable [we shall see, of course...].

He pulled up late in a game not so long back, and that should have been a sign he needed a rest, but no. I mean let's be honest, without him and ASM we had nowt going forward.

Eh? That happens whether he'd played recently or not.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 20 January 2020, 05:18:31 PM
We will sign him for £1m now and Bruce will have him playing in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Klaus on Monday 20 January 2020, 05:19:48 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jJX3KhcwX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link



 :'( :'(   :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Disco on Monday 20 January 2020, 05:21:08 PM
Sounds like a right soft c***.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Kanji on Monday 20 January 2020, 07:07:02 PM
 @Ikon and I are not allowed to have nice things
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: frankpingel on Monday 20 January 2020, 07:15:59 PM
Hope he recovers fully and that we are able to see him playing in b&w again.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: chopey on Monday 20 January 2020, 07:19:05 PM
If the purpose of the loan was to find out if we liked him and he liked us, he's obviously good enough, so sign him up.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Ian W on Monday 20 January 2020, 08:00:33 PM
If I had feelings it would be a shame.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 20 January 2020, 08:43:38 PM
If the purpose of the loan was to find out if we liked him and he liked us, he's obviously good enough, so sign him up.
Not many clubs would sign a player with a serious injury until they knew he'd fully recovered.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: joeyt on Monday 20 January 2020, 08:44:31 PM
If the purpose of the loan was to find out if we liked him and he liked us, he's obviously good enough, so sign him up.
Not many clubs would sign a player with a serious injury until they knew he'd fully recovered.

 :cba:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: joeyt on Monday 20 January 2020, 08:45:34 PM
Think we also signed Dan Gosling when he was crocked for ages. If there's profit to potentially be made we'll jump at it
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:02:37 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jJX3KhcwX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link



 :(

Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Robster on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:04:16 PM
Comes across like a really lovely fella. Deserves a better club tbh.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: LV on Monday 20 January 2020, 10:49:57 PM
Gutted for him. Good player, good bloke.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 02:54:44 AM
@Ikon and I are not allowed to have nice things

:( poor b******

Jetro that is.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 03:13:01 AM
Hope we still sign him, he's looked very good for us this season, easily the best left back we've had in ages.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 07:27:19 AM
He's the best left-back we had in a really long while, looks quality and i hope we get him back.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: STM on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 08:10:45 AM
Presumably we will wait until he is over his injury before deciding to sign him permanently. Obviously hes incapable of passing a medical for 6 months or whatever.

Everything else should be in place. They would be mad not to sign him. They wont get better value for a left back.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Sho'Time on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 08:15:30 AM
Don't sign him now, we'd have to pay him more money that could be better served gaining interest in Mike Ashley's back pocket.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: James on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 08:43:32 AM
I’d extend his loan until the end of next season with his optional transfer clause being made compulsory after 20-30 more league games. That sounds win win win to me.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: SteV on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 10:05:54 AM
I’d extend his loan until the end of next season with his optional transfer clause being made compulsory after 20-30 more league games. That sounds win win win to me.

Not sure that's a win win for Frankfurt mind...
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 11:08:23 AM
Despite everything going on with the owner and questions over the manger it’s really nice to see a player that actually visibly wants to play for us and thrive doing so. It’d be a real disappointment if we didn’t sign him permanently.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Wilson on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 11:37:28 AM
The club don't deserve that much commitment from any players imo.  I like willems, the injuries a massive shame, but he's better off away from here, like every other player.  Hopefully he fully recovers and has a great career elsewhere.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: James on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 12:32:36 PM
I’d extend his loan until the end of next season with his optional transfer clause being made compulsory after 20-30 more league games. That sounds win win win to me.

Not sure that's a win win for Frankfurt mind...

It guarantees them £7.5m if he returns at a similar level and stays fit. If he doesn’t we are paying his wage for a year.

The alternative is that he goes back to Frankfurt and his value will depreciate as it will be hard to take a risk on him with that injury.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: SteV on Tuesday 21 January 2020, 01:24:17 PM
I’d extend his loan until the end of next season with his optional transfer clause being made compulsory after 20-30 more league games. That sounds win win win to me.

Not sure that's a win win for Frankfurt mind...

It guarantees them £7.5m if he returns at a similar level and stays fit. If he doesn’t we are paying his wage for a year.

The alternative is that he goes back to Frankfurt and his value will depreciate as it will be hard to take a risk on him with that injury.

If he doesn't come back the same player (and fingers crossed he does) though, and he doesn't meet the required number of games, they are then left with a player who's value has dropped significantly.

If i'm Frankfurt, i'm pushing for the deal to carried through on the price agreed, now or in the summer. Try and get us to take the risk on his fitness.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: KaKa on Friday 31 January 2020, 01:12:49 PM
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Asked if the club would move for Willems in the summer, head coach Bruce said: “Jetro, we have to make sure he has had the op, and the rehabilitation is good. He impressed us all. He found it difficult to start with, but turned into a really good player for us. We’ll have a look at it.”

On 29-year-old Rose, Bruce said: “If he does well, we’ll have an opportunity to make it permanent.”
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: joeyt on Friday 31 January 2020, 02:19:46 PM
Did Willems struggle early on?

Other than Bruce not telling him what position he was playing in his first appearance
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 31 January 2020, 02:22:35 PM
Did Willems struggle early on?

Other than Bruce not telling him what position he was playing in his first appearance

Yeah, struggled for the first 7 minutes. Then looked pretty decent.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Kanji on Friday 14 February 2020, 02:43:08 PM
Jetro apparently back in Newcastle today...

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Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Menace on Friday 14 February 2020, 03:44:39 PM
Probably having a bin bath.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: TBG on Friday 14 February 2020, 03:45:25 PM
Told to man up and run his injury off.

Should last 80mins against Arsenal.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: toontownman on Friday 14 February 2020, 07:39:40 PM
Medical ahead of proposed move?

"He failed, we tried."
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: danny on Friday 14 February 2020, 08:58:42 PM
Oh come on guys, hes reaching out to us  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: joeyt on Monday 17 February 2020, 06:15:47 PM
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Jetro Willems has confirmed he wants to stay at Newcastle after his loan spell from Eintracht Frankfurt was cut short by injury.

In quotes carried by the Daily Star, the wing-back said: “Newcastle means a lot to me. I always had a feeling before I came that it was going to be a great year. Everything about Newcastle felt right – the club, the fans, the competition just suited me. I liked playing for Steve Bruce. I like him.

“He's more of a coach who speaks a lot with the players. He gives them a role in team and everyone knows what they need to be doing. He gave me a lot of freedom so it suits me how Steve manages. He was great for me.”
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: David Edgar on Monday 17 February 2020, 06:43:28 PM
And there it is again.  "He gave me lots of freedom."

The man simply doesn't do modern tactical football.  Players love it, but ultimately the team suffers.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 17 February 2020, 07:20:28 PM
He’s been a big loss to the team like. Ritchie doesn’t have his athleticism, need Rose to step up.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 17 February 2020, 07:21:41 PM
And there it is again.  "He gave me lots of freedom."

The man simply doesn't do modern tactical football.  Players love it, but ultimately the team suffers.

Works for someone like Willems individually, because he's a clever player and knows how to play his role.

Doesn't for Yedlin on the other side for example, who is anything but.

Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 02:18:35 AM
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Jetro Willems has confirmed he wants to stay at Newcastle after his loan spell from Eintracht Frankfurt was cut short by injury.

In quotes carried by the Daily Star, the wing-back said: “Newcastle means a lot to me. I always had a feeling before I came that it was going to be a great year. Everything about Newcastle felt right – the club, the fans, the competition just suited me. I liked playing for Steve Bruce. I like him.

“He's more of a coach who speaks a lot with the players. He gives them a role in team and everyone knows what they need to be doing. He gave me a lot of freedom so it suits me how Steve manages. He was great for me.”

Aye he gave him plenty of freedom when he came on as a sub in his first game. Didn't even tell him what position to play.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 10:14:41 AM
Bruce is the exact opposite of Rafa, which is why as much I was against Mitro ever playing he would be ideal in this side under this c***.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 02:54:52 PM
Bruce is the exact opposite of Rafa, which is why as much I was against Mitro ever playing he would be ideal in this side under this c***.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 03:20:28 PM
I don’t think Mitro would look that good either TBH.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: aussiemag on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 03:29:06 PM
For all his deficiencies, at least Mitro attacked the box.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 03:37:25 PM
For all his deficiencies, at least Mitro attacked the box.

He wouldn't have anything to attack in this side. One of his complaints about Rafa was that he didn't like being so isolated and having to track back.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 19 February 2020, 03:38:24 PM
From what I’ve seen Willems seems a good player.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: nemtizz on Thursday 12 March 2020, 06:13:44 PM

Both signing for Wolves then.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 5 April 2020, 09:58:19 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jJX3KhcwX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Out for the season, loan ends, yet still think he'll be playing football for us again....and due to 'God's plan', he might just play again this season.  :frantic:
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: SheikhShearer on Saturday 11 April 2020, 11:37:55 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-zGo9thisD/?igshid=13jvyepai2tb5

His middle name isn't Sexer for nothing
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Willow on Saturday 11 April 2020, 04:31:56 PM
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Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 25 April 2020, 05:18:22 PM
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Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: STM on Saturday 25 April 2020, 05:19:40 PM
Would be a no brainer. Hes so comfortable at this level.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 25 April 2020, 05:21:02 PM
I’d take him over Rose at least.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Lenny on Saturday 25 April 2020, 05:23:46 PM
I hope we sign him. He's an an entertaining player to watch.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: STM on Saturday 25 April 2020, 05:24:33 PM
I’d take him over Rose at least.

Even in an extravagant spending spree, I'd rather take Willems who I trust and throw money at more important areas. Obviously this all depends on who the manager is and what the new structure is going to look like etc.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 25 April 2020, 06:53:32 PM
Been answering a lot of questions to fans on Twitter.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Ikon on Saturday 25 April 2020, 06:58:13 PM
Absolutely class.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 25 April 2020, 07:12:44 PM
Love Willems. Definitely have him over rose. Not that I would complain if we keep rose too.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Sho'Time on Saturday 25 April 2020, 07:16:49 PM
Definitely not interested in seeing Rose back here. Jetro is far superior. If we aren't getting him then let's get someone else and not Rose.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 25 April 2020, 07:35:10 PM
Definitely not interested in seeing Rose back here. Jetro is far superior. If we aren't getting him then let's get someone else and not Rose.

Totally agree. Rose was such a Bruceosaurus signing. Completely on the way down and looking for one last move.

Would rather play Dummett than Rose.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 25 April 2020, 07:42:47 PM
Let's not be too hasty.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 25 April 2020, 07:49:29 PM
Let's not be too hasty.

:lol: I'm totally serious.

Can't stand Rose or the c*** that signed him.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 25 April 2020, 08:14:50 PM
Why can't you stand Rose?
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 25 April 2020, 08:29:57 PM
Why can't you stand Rose?

I think he’s finished and offers f*** all. Also, I hate pretty much everyone associated with this version of Nufc so my hatred is not exclusive to him tbf.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 25 April 2020, 08:52:04 PM
Rose was a high class Dummett. A little easier on the ball, but in reality was offering nothing going forward
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 25 April 2020, 08:55:18 PM
If we're going to continue playing with three central defenders and wing backs sure I'd have him here on a permanent deal. Don't think he'd do particularly well in a back 4 with more defensive duties though.
Title: Re: Jetro Willems out for the season
Post by: Gorilla on Saturday 25 April 2020, 10:02:00 PM
If we're going to continue playing with three central defenders and wing backs sure I'd have him here on a permanent deal. Don't think he'd do particularly well in a back 4 with more defensive duties though.
He's been one of our best players if not the best.  We should sign him my only concern is he doesn't have a great injury record.