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Title: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:32:27 PM
So, you've got £100k sterling saved in the bank and, upon arrival in your country of choice, you earn the median salary of the country you move to.

Where do you move to and why?

Edit - if you'd stay where you currently live, say where it is, explain what you'd do with the £100k and why it's your destination of choice.
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Post by: OpenC on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:34:24 PM
At the risk of coming over all Astroblack, I quite like it here tbh :lol:
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Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:35:28 PM
At the risk of coming over all Astroblack, I quite like it here tbh :lol:

:lol: That's fine.

Will add to the OP.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:40:07 PM
Good question. One I’ve often thought of. Do you live rambunctiously somewhere in the developing world blitzing your savings / trying to make it go further through investment or just live somewhere passable and pleasant getting by slightly better than you are already?
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Post by: Varadi on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:41:33 PM
Do we have to observe visa requirements or is there free rein?
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Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:41:47 PM
Good question. One I’ve often thought of. Do you live rambunctiously somewhere in the developing world blitzing your savings / trying to make it go further through investment or just live somewhere passable and pleasant getting by slightly better than you are already?

That's partly the reason for posting the question. You could barely last a year in the Cayman Islands living the dream but probably more than ten years in Thailand just plodding through 'normal' life.

Thought some of the responses would be interesting........
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Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:42:34 PM
Do we have to observe visa requirements or is there free rein?

Presume you've had the visa approved for permanent residence.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:43:00 PM
Would you need to spend the £100k on somewhere to live though? If you went somewhere with a very low salary that could be a big factor. Like Thailand or Sri Lanka etc...
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Troll on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:44:03 PM
Already did this a couple of years ago.  I'll stay where I am.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:44:20 PM
Would you need to spend the £100k on somewhere to live though? If you went somewhere with a very low salary that could be a big factor. Like Thailand or Sri Lanka etc...

Your choice. Your 'median' salary would cover the equivalent rent/mortgage on a normal 2.4 children style house in the relevant country or you can put the £100k and buy something a bit bigger but have no savings behind you.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:44:52 PM
Already did this a couple of years ago.  I'll stay where I am.

Which is where and why would you stay? And what would you spend your new found £100k on.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Troll on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:45:24 PM
Would you need to spend the £100k on somewhere to live though? If you went somewhere with a very low salary that could be a big factor. Like Thailand or Sri Lanka etc...

I assume you'd have to rent in most places if you couldn't buy outright.  Credit scores don't travel.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:46:59 PM
Would most likely stay exactly where I am in North Northumberland; I'm close enough to natural and urban environments (with Scotland and Newcastle) that satisfy my desire to get out into the countryside, and to and commune with reasonably friendly fellow human beings.  I've travelled a fair bit in my time and while I enjoyed it all, I've always enjoyed coming home as well.  Never found a landscape that's the match of Scotland; and a city is a city to me, and newcastle is a perfectly good one, I don't wish it was bigger or newer or anything :) add to that the charms of northumberland itself - the history, the beautiful bucolic countryside, a genuinely world-class coastline studded with ancient castles - and I'm happy, like. It took me a while to appreciate how lucky I was to be born and brought up here, but I do now.

Would buy a house easily with that budget and wage, and blow the rest on guitars, cameras and videogames tbh, I don't need much from life to keep me happy :)
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Troll on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:47:45 PM
Already did this a couple of years ago.  I'll stay where I am.

Which is where and why would you stay? And what would you spend your new found £100k on.

California - I'm not sure it needs further justification.  I'd be really interesting and pay off my car, and use the rest for a deposit on a house.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:48:20 PM
Would most likely stay exactly where I am in North Northumberland; I'm close enough to natural and urban environments (with Scotland and Newcastle) that satisfy my desire to get out into the countryside, and to and commune with reasonably friendly fellow human beings.  I've travelled a fair bit in my time and while I enjoyed it all, I've always enjoyed coming home as well.  Never found a landscape that's the match of Scotland; and a city is a city to me, and newcastle is a perfectly good one, I don't wish it was bigger or newer or anything :) add to that the charms of northumberland itself - the history, the beautiful bucolic countryside, a genuinely world-class coastline studded with ancient castles - and I'm happy, like. It took me a while to appreciate how lucky I was to be born and brought up here, but I do now.

Would buy a house easily with that budget and wage, and blow the rest on guitars, cameras and videogames tbh, I don't need much from life to keep me happy :)

:thup: Great post.

Do you have family that draws you to the area/keeps you there or not Open?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:48:54 PM
Already did this a couple of years ago.  I'll stay where I am.

Which is where and why would you stay? And what would you spend your new found £100k on.

California - I'm not sure it needs further justification.  I'd be really interesting and pay off my car, and use the rest for a deposit on a house.

Quality. Whereabouts in California?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:50:22 PM
Yeah, still got family here but as they would attest, I don't see a right lot of them tbh :lol: that's not part of my decision making at all, I probably see them as often as I would if I lived 400 miles away :blush:
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Troll on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:51:54 PM
Sacramento.

Actually, I tell a lie, I'd stay in state but move to San Diego.  San Francisco would be nice too but unaffordable on a median salary.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:52:33 PM
Would be tempted to go somewhere where a coastal house is £40k and the salary is 5 or whatever. Then you have 10 bonus years of salary in the bank and a nice place to live.

Not sure where in the world that is though, would have to be a very cheap country.

And extra £100k would go down well in London as well mind, I could live somewhere actually nice instead of just acceptable. But the average salary probably would cover the living costs.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:54:56 PM
Good question. One I’ve often thought of. Do you live rambunctiously somewhere in the developing world blitzing your savings / trying to make it go further through investment or just live somewhere passable and pleasant getting by slightly better than you are already?

That's partly the reason for posting the question. You could barely last a year in the Cayman Islands living the dream but probably more than ten years in Thailand just plodding through 'normal' life.

Thought some of the responses would be interesting........

Aye you I’d almost need an answer for both alternatives. Push came to shove I think I’d probably move somewhere cheaper but still developed enough to not lose comfort and amenity.

Andalucia, Valencia or Lisbon area would be canny. Better weather, food, outdoor lifestyle with access to cities, countryside and beach. Still easy enough to get back to UK, if needed, but connected well to travel elsewhere as I enjoy doing already. Hefty deposit for a gaff with a pool would be the main use of cash. Chance to learn a foreign language would be a big pull too. Assuming health and education provision are decent admittedly.

Couldn’t deal with the weather in Asia as much as it appeals on the cheap/picturesque/noncing scale. Saying all that I’d also be tempted to stay put and f*** the £100k straight up the wall until it ran out travelling the world. Probably die though.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Varadi on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:55:35 PM
Going to go for Australia, ideally Sydney's northern beaches. Just absolutely love the place - great city on your doorstep, some of the best beaches in the world and a laid back lifestyle that suits me perfectly.

Give me the visa and the job and you can keep the 100k tbh, but if you absolutely insist I'm tempted to go for a top notch camper van to get out and explore the country.

Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 07:56:38 PM
Two great shouts there :thup:.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: David Edgar on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:02:42 PM
Am I actually working for this median salary?  In my current profession?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:03:42 PM
If I’m working on the Thai median salary I’m not doing much.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:04:47 PM
Would unsurprisingly live in LA. That said I don't think I'd last too long on the median salary there though due to rent prices and car costs, so given the context of the question it's a bit harder. Honestly not sure.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:04:48 PM
Good question. One I’ve often thought of. Do you live rambunctiously somewhere in the developing world blitzing your savings / trying to make it go further through investment or just live somewhere passable and pleasant getting by slightly better than you are already?

That's partly the reason for posting the question. You could barely last a year in the Cayman Islands living the dream but probably more than ten years in Thailand just plodding through 'normal' life.

Thought some of the responses would be interesting........

Aye you I’d almost need an answer for both alternatives. Push came to shove I think I’d probably move somewhere cheaper but still developed enough to not lose comfort and amenity.

Andalucia, Valencia or Portugal would be canny. Better weather, food, outdoor lifestyle with access to cities, countryside and beach. Still easy enough to get back to UK, if needed, but connected well to travel elsewhere as I enjoy doing already. Hefty deposit for a gaff with a pool would be the main use of cash. Chance to learn a foreign language would be a big pull too.

Couldn’t deal with the weather in Asia as much as it appeals on the cheap/picturesque/noncing scale. Saying all that I’d also be tempted to stay put and f*** the £100k straight up the wall until it ran out travelling the world. Probably die though.

Yeah, south spain is probably most ideal place.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:05:46 PM
Am I actually working for this median salary?  In my current profession?

You are working in similar field to that of your current country. So you can't go from being a binman in the Uk to a Surgeon in the US, for example.
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Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:06:42 PM
Am I actually working for this median salary?  In my current profession?

You are working in similar field to that of your current country. So you can't go from being a binman in the Uk to a Surgeon in the US, for example.

If it's a median salary in my current field of work then LA every time :lol:
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:07:06 PM
If I’m working on the Thai median salary I’m not doing much.

No. But on the bright side, you'd be mortgage free, have cash in the bank still (probably) and only work as little as needed to pay for low living costs. That's kind of the purpose of the question really.

Do you push onwards/upwards or take the lifestyle choice?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:07:12 PM
Bali.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:08:25 PM
Thought about this loads too. I'd either stay here & move to somewhere quieter out of town, or do the equivalent but on the outskirts of Saint Petersburg. My needs/interests can be met/afforded pretty simply. Coastal or country paths to walk, clean air to breathe, a city nearby to be inspired by (in both its light & dark sides), a sense of history and story in my surroundings (can't stand pristine plastic cities/parts of cities) a shelf full of great books & some software to design & create artwork. The reason it'd be Russia if not England is because for me, their history, literature & arts are superb; for me only England & France are comparable in the regard but fall short. The feeling of being there, looks for signs of the life of said history, looking for marks of what may have inspired said arts & literature would fill me with fascination and joy for as long as I could live.

That'd be me. What about you, Minhosa?
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:08:30 PM
Yeah, right now I’d probably go for the slow pace by the beach.

I’d love New York or something as well, but the money would go on a deposit for a shoebox and the salary wouldn’t cover the mortgage.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:09:28 PM
Thought about this loads too. I'd either stay here & move to somewhere quieter out of town, or do the equivalent but on the outskirts of Saint Petersburg. My needs/interests can be met/afforded pretty simply. Coastal or country paths to walk, clean air to breathe, a city nearby to be inspired by (in both is light & dark sides), a sense of history and story in my surroundings (can't stand pristine plastic cities/parts of cities) a shelf full of great books & some software to design & create artwork. The reason it'd be Russia if not England is because for me, their history, literature & arts are superb; for me only England & France are comparable in the regard but fall short. The feeling of being there, looks for signs of the life of said history, looking for marks of what may have inspired said arts & literature would fill me with fascination and joy for as long as I could live.

That'd be me.

Very interesting, sounds similar to Istanbul/Turkey.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: alijmitchell on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:10:02 PM
The following places in Europe so far - Portugal, Slovenia, Croatia (I think for kids it’s probably amazing living there. There’s so much outdoor life) parts of Spain too. Outside of Europe I’ve enjoyed Japan but probably couldn’t live there forever. I don’t have any experience of North America but Canada always sounds nice.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:17:12 PM
Thought about this loads too. I'd either stay here & move to somewhere quieter out of town, or do the equivalent but on the outskirts of Saint Petersburg. My needs/interests can be met/afforded pretty simply. Coastal or country paths to walk, clean air to breathe, a city nearby to be inspired by (in both is light & dark sides), a sense of history and story in my surroundings (can't stand pristine plastic cities/parts of cities) a shelf full of great books & some software to design & create artwork. The reason it'd be Russia if not England is because for me, their history, literature & arts are superb; for me only England & France are comparable in the regard but fall short. The feeling of being there, looks for signs of the life of said history, looking for marks of what may have inspired said arts & literature would fill me with fascination and joy for as long as I could live.

That'd be me.

Very interesting, sounds similar to Istanbul/Turkey.

It does. I guess they're a few scenic/architectural similarities between Saint Petersburg and Istanbul. Certainly looks beautiful, does Istanbul, although for me Saint Petersburg has the edge due my love for related literature & arts.
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Post by: Ikon on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:28:04 PM
Cape Town, even if the water is freezing cold.
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Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:32:12 PM
Fishing for nonces in this thread, well played Minhosa you narc
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:42:31 PM
Places in central and South America probably a good option, affordable and good climate and coastline.
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Post by: Ikon on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:45:55 PM
Places in central and South America probably a good option, affordable and good climate and coastline.

Been to most places in South/Central America and I absolutely loved most of them. Not sure I'd like to live there permanently though. Medellin on a Saturday night aint too shabby though  :naughty: (like many other places)
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Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:46:28 PM
This median salary thing needs fleshing out. Median US salary is 56k. Life would be s***.
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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:47:40 PM
This median salary thing needs fleshing out. Median US salary is 56k. Life would be s***.

56k seems high, you sure that isn't household?
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Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:48:30 PM
Yes, sorry Neesy.

As I say, s***.
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Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Lived in Canada, would live there again. Newfoundland maybe. Or British Columbia.

Somewhere in Patagonia or southern Chile.

Never been to Scotland but think I’d probably like living in some small town in the Highlands. Or northern England.

I loathe humidity and enjoy rainy/cloudy/depressing weather.

But ultimately, America is my home and I imagine I’ll end up here long-term.
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Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:50:11 PM
"Living wage" in NYC is $78,903 :lol: You'd be homeless on 28k. Thanks a bunch Minhosa.

Actual numbers: The median individual income in New York City is $50,825. The median household income in New York City is $57,782.

jesus
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:55:54 PM
Easy to discount loads of obvious places.

America - people would get on your tits, even moreso at work and your cash wouldn’t go that far anywhere too decent
Australia - as above plus isolated from proper countries
NZ - too far away from anywhere else even if it is a beaut
Japan - expensive and working would be a drag
Canada - I’m sure it’s nice but nah. Too outdoorsy and not enough edge
SE Asia - too hot and seasonal plus Thailand/Nam/Cambodia you’d catch the bad aids eventually somehow
Central / South America - a lot of places would be very decent for a bit but living/working full time would become tiresome I’d imagine as infrastructure ain’t reliable. Amazing culture though. Mexico would appeal.
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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:00:14 PM
Easy to discount loads of obvious places.

America - people would get on your tits, even moreso at work and your cash wouldn’t go that far anywhere too decent
Australia - as above plus isolated from proper countries
NZ - too far away from anywhere else even if it is a beaut
Japan - expensive and working would be a drag
Canada - I’m sure it’s nice but nah. Too outdoorsy and not enough edge
SE Asia - too hot and seasonal plus Thailand/Nam/Cambodia you’d catch the bad aids eventually somehow
Central / South America - most places would be decent for a bit but living/working full time would become tiresome I’d imagine as infrastructure ain’t reliable.

Guessing it's europe or africa then.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:02:11 PM
Easy to discount loads of obvious places.

America - people would get on your tits, even moreso at work and your cash wouldn’t go that far anywhere too decent
Australia - as above plus isolated from proper countries
NZ - too far away from anywhere else even if it is a beaut
Japan - expensive and working would be a drag
Canada - I’m sure it’s nice but nah. Too outdoorsy and not enough edge
SE Asia - too hot and seasonal plus Thailand/Nam/Cambodia you’d catch the bad aids eventually somehow. Great bait though.
Central / South America - most places would be decent for a bit but living/working full time would become tiresome I’d imagine as infrastructure ain’t reliable.

Guessing it's europe or africa then.

Didn’t think Africa needed actively discounting but aye, discount that n all.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:02:25 PM
Easy to discount loads of obvious places.

America - people would get on your tits, even moreso at work and your cash wouldn’t go far anywhere decent
Australia - as above plus isolated from proper countries
NZ - too far away from anywhere else even if it is a beaut
Japan - expensive and working would be a drag
Canada - I’m sure it’s nice but nah. Too outdoorsy and not enough edge
SE Asia - too hot and you’d catch the bad aids eventually
Central / South America - most places would be decent for a bit but living/working full time would become tiresome I’d imagine as infrastructure ain’t reliable.

 :lol:

I don't disagree with any of the above mind.
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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:04:12 PM
Anywhere along the Adriatic sea would be my ideal place in europe.
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Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:06:09 PM
i f***ing dare you to move to albania mate
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:07:32 PM
I reckon I could move to Hanoi, like (wouldn't fancy Saigon) but if I was earning what I earn now - not on their median salary.

Bobbing about somewhere in Spain would probably be areet.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:10:41 PM
I reckon I could move to Hanoi, like (wouldn't fancy Saigon) but if I was earning what I earn now - not on their median salary.

Bobbing about somewhere in Spain would probably be areet.

Aye Spain would be canny tbf. Every time I've been I've enjoyed the rhythm of life there. Stopped in Pamplona for a few months some years back, walked the path of Mikel Merino. Dece.
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Post by: Troll on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:14:19 PM
This median salary thing needs fleshing out. Median US salary is 56k. Life would be s***.

Median salary per capita for the whole country is $32k.  That's impossible to live on.  Can we quit our median salary job and get one that pays better?
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:16:28 PM
I'd either copy Disco, stay here and blow the 100k on travelling. I work in an industry where I can live comfortably enough in the UK. Or Move to LA. Mainly for the beaches and the weather but also the ease of finding a similar job I could walk in to. Spend the 100k on setting up. If I was single I'd liked to have maybe moved to work in Singapore and maybe Hong Kong, but would come home. Ultimately do want to end up back in Northumberland, like. OpenC nails it.
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Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 9 May 2019, 09:21:25 PM
Disco has the right idea for me, for the same reasons. I'd be more specific though and say Malaga. You can get the perfect balance between City/rural life there, plus it's only an hour away from Granada which is the last place left in Spain that chucks out free tapas with every drink - makes bar crawls incredible and quite sophisticated. :lol:
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Post by: UncleBingo on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:05:22 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:08:24 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.

Anywhere specific you’re looking out of interest?
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Post by: UncleBingo on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:12:05 PM
Thought about this loads too. I'd either stay here & move to somewhere quieter out of town, or do the equivalent but on the outskirts of Saint Petersburg. My needs/interests can be met/afforded pretty simply. Coastal or country paths to walk, clean air to breathe, a city nearby to be inspired by (in both its light & dark sides), a sense of history and story in my surroundings (can't stand pristine plastic cities/parts of cities) a shelf full of great books & some software to design & create artwork. The reason it'd be Russia if not England is because for me, their history, literature & arts are superb; for me only England & France are comparable in the regard but fall short. The feeling of being there, looks for signs of the life of said history, looking for marks of what may have inspired said arts & literature would fill me with fascination and joy for as long as I could live.

That'd be me. What about you, Minhosa?

Saint Petersburg is an interesting choice but it's a bit grim on the outskirts, unless you live somewhere like Pushkin which is really nice. The main issue I've found with living in Russia (my wife is from St.P) is not so much the weather, as their summers p*ss on ours, it's the lack of sunlight......basically, you never see the sun for about 4 months from the end of October, just dark grey skies every single day.......it's really depressing. The food's pretty grim too, and Putin's getting worse.
 Love the place apart from that, you're right about the culture there mind, there's so much to see and the people are very well read and educated in the main. It certainly gets a bad press in that respect.
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Post by: UncleBingo on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:16:01 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.

Anywhere specific you’re looking out of interest?

I looked to buy somewhere in a place called Oliva, which is about an hour from Valencia, really unspolit typical Spanish white town abut 2kms from the sea.....had a place lined up but the Mrs just didn't like the place.....2 opposing views of what type of Spain each other likes I guess. Have been looking further south and really liked Alicante as a city but still looking.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:21:22 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.

Anywhere specific you’re looking out of interest?

I looked to buy somewhere in a place called Oliva, which is about an hour from Valencia, really unspolit typical Spanish white town abut 2kms from the sea.....had a place lined up but the Mrs just didn't like the place.....2 opposing views of what type of Spain each other likes I guess. Have been looking further south and really liked Alicante as a city but still looking.

:thup: looks lovely. Need to examine the metro/regional rail lines going out from the cities. Best of both worlds.
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Post by: pedro111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:23:35 PM
You're all a bunch of soft cocks. For 100k, and a decent wage, a nice 2 bed semi in Waaaallsend and you're set for life man.

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Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:28:03 PM
Spain or France, to be with my Brexiteer bretheren.
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Post by: UncleBingo on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:33:51 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.

Anywhere specific you’re looking out of interest?

I looked to buy somewhere in a place called Oliva, which is about an hour from Valencia, really unspolit typical Spanish white town abut 2kms from the sea.....had a place lined up but the Mrs just didn't like the place.....2 opposing views of what type of Spain each other likes I guess. Have been looking further south and really liked Alicante as a city but still looking.

:thup: looks lovely. Need to examine the metro/regional rail lines going out from the cities. Best of both worlds.

I loved it, it has an amazing beach as well with literally nobody on it. The town's a little run down in places and a bit rough round the edges, but I liked that about it.....the people were really friendly as well. Gandia's a decent sized town 10 mintues up the road which has all the big shops and less than an hour on the train to Valenica. I was going to buy a nice 3 bed townhouse with a big terrace with sea views for 60k! Still gutted I didn't buy it.
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:44:28 PM
You're all a bunch of soft cocks. For 100k, and a decent wage, a nice 2 bed semi in Waaaallsend and you're set for life man.

3 or 4 properties in Teesside if you’re looking to establish an empire.
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:45:32 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.

Anywhere specific you’re looking out of interest?

I looked to buy somewhere in a place called Oliva, which is about an hour from Valencia, really unspolit typical Spanish white town abut 2kms from the sea.....had a place lined up but the Mrs just didn't like the place.....2 opposing views of what type of Spain each other likes I guess. Have been looking further south and really liked Alicante as a city but still looking.

:thup: looks lovely. Need to examine the metro/regional rail lines going out from the cities. Best of both worlds.

Got a friend who moved to Denia, photos look excellent.
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Post by: BottledDog on Thursday 9 May 2019, 10:59:29 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.

Anywhere specific you’re looking out of interest?

I looked to buy somewhere in a place called Oliva, which is about an hour from Valencia, really unspolit typical Spanish white town abut 2kms from the sea.....had a place lined up but the Mrs just didn't like the place.....2 opposing views of what type of Spain each other likes I guess. Have been looking further south and really liked Alicante as a city but still looking.

:thup: looks lovely. Need to examine the metro/regional rail lines going out from the cities. Best of both worlds.

I loved it, it has an amazing beach as well with literally nobody on it. The town's a little run down in places and a bit rough round the edges, but I liked that about it.....the people were really friendly as well. Gandia's a decent sized town 10 mintues up the road which has all the big shops and less than an hour on the train to Valenica. I was going to buy a nice 3 bed townhouse with a big terrace with sea views for 60k! Still gutted I didn't buy it.

Damn what? Just did a quick search and couldn't find anything there other than apartments under £200,000.

My search skills are lacking. :lol:
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Post by: UncleBingo on Thursday 9 May 2019, 11:36:39 PM
Another shout for Spain for me, absolutely fantastic country & that has everything, especially when you get away from the tourist traps. I'm planning on buying a place there asap (if Brexit doesn't f*** things up) and live between the UK and there as soon as I retire.

Anywhere specific you’re looking out of interest?

I looked to buy somewhere in a place called Oliva, which is about an hour from Valencia, really unspolit typical Spanish white town abut 2kms from the sea.....had a place lined up but the Mrs just didn't like the place.....2 opposing views of what type of Spain each other likes I guess. Have been looking further south and really liked Alicante as a city but still looking.

:thup: looks lovely. Need to examine the metro/regional rail lines going out from the cities. Best of both worlds.

I loved it, it has an amazing beach as well with literally nobody on it. The town's a little run down in places and a bit rough round the edges, but I liked that about it.....the people were really friendly as well. Gandia's a decent sized town 10 mintues up the road which has all the big shops and less than an hour on the train to Valenica. I was going to buy a nice 3 bed townhouse with a big terrace with sea views for 60k! Still gutted I didn't buy it.

Damn what? Just did a quick search and couldn't find anything there other than apartments under £200,000.

My search skills are lacking. :lol:

Try www.kyero.com and search for a townhouse.
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Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Friday 10 May 2019, 12:11:18 AM
The median salary part of this eliminates the vast majority of countries in the world. I would much rather live in Nigeria, Brazil, or Russia (St. Petersburg. Wonderul city.) for cultural/personal reasons than Japan for instance, but not at the expense of the majority of my income.

America is the top country in my opinion, as I mentioned a while back, so I suppose there given the income requirement. Maryland, Lousiana, Texas, and New York are best states I've visited, but the national average salary is a pittance in the Northeast and a good salary in the south, so probably Texas or Louisana. There are a lot of good cities in Europe that would qualify if not again for the median salary cavaet. Generally, living in any major city on the average national salary will be miserable, given the price inflation in these places.

I have a child (and wife) and will soon have more, so the money would be going towards them as nearly all money goes.
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Post by: Yorkie on Friday 10 May 2019, 12:33:30 AM
Home is home but ironically I'd spend the money on travelling.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 10 May 2019, 07:45:38 AM
Buenos Aires. Incredible city
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Post by: r0cafella on Friday 10 May 2019, 07:55:30 AM
I'd either copy Disco, stay here and blow the 100k on travelling. I work in an industry where I can live comfortably enough in the UK. Or Move to LA. Mainly for the beaches and the weather but also the ease of finding a similar job I could walk in to. Spend the 100k on setting up. If I was single I'd liked to have maybe moved to work in Singapore and maybe Hong Kong, but would come home. Ultimately do want to end up back in Northumberland, like. OpenC nails it.

Work part might be a bitch here in Singapore. Hours are longer than European countries.
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Post by: HTT on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:37:54 AM
Tynemouth which is the actual plan.
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Post by: Shearergol on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:55:33 AM
My issue would be having to learn a new language, which I really can’t be bothered with anymore. So i’d Be looking at English speaking countries. I’d stay here in the UK, use the money to set up my own business and live extremely sensibly until it’s sustainable.
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Post by: steve_69 on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:58:15 AM
Somewhere with an outdoor lifestyle, a better climate than the UK, and where the people don't seem like arseholes - Spain, New Zealand, Canada spring to mind but it'd probably need some more thorough research.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Friday 10 May 2019, 09:48:05 AM
Somewhere in northern Italy. 100k and the median salary probably wouldn't be enough to get the dream place of one of those villas on Lake Como so probably Tuscany. Home here in the northeast will always be home, though.
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Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Friday 10 May 2019, 10:30:49 AM
I haven’t travelled to all the places i want to yet but i think out of the places i’ve been then Ibiza would suit me best.  It can be anything you want it be.  It’s got the weather, it’s got the nightlife, it’s got the beaches and scenery, the food is excellent which i think surprises people who go for the first time, you’re also a short flight from some great European cities.  The Tourists/clubbers in the summer would be irritating so you would need to live in one of the quiet areas, some of which are beautiful.  No idea what the median wage would be out there but i’d be happy living somewhere simple and quiet, as long as i had a car i could get about the island no problem.
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Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 10 May 2019, 10:36:49 AM
South of Spain is decent. I live there now and one of the major drawbacks is money. Its the poorest region of Spain and wages are pretty s****, its difficult to save. The weather is class though (most of the time). It's a decent place to retire to for sure. I feel like a lot of folk get their fingers burned though, they assume it's like England in the sun and it's really not, especially in the cities. It can be difficult to integrate if you dont speak the language and I think couples and families end up feeling isolated. A decent 'ex-pat' community is a must for wherever you live imo, especially if you're relatively young.

Right now, I'd move back to Saigon for a year rather than spending another year here though, but that's somewhere I hands down wouldn't choose to live forever, the place is wild and especially not on a 'median local wage'. Off to China for a while next, then possibly back to the UK. The North East has so much to offer, its just a shame the weather is atrocious.
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Post by: Varadi on Friday 10 May 2019, 11:04:09 AM
Somewhere in northern Italy. 100k and the median salary probably wouldn't be enough to get the dream place of one of those villas on Lake Como so probably Tuscany. Home here in the northeast will always be home, though.

Italy is a good shout, would probably be next on my list. Have spent quite a bit of time in Umbria in particular and it's a gorgeous part of the world, so much top scenery and history.

Surprisingly reasonably priced property too, 100k would get you a really nice place.
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Post by: Disco on Friday 10 May 2019, 11:08:19 AM
South of Spain is decent. I live there now and one of the major drawbacks is money. Its the poorest region of Spain and wages are pretty s****, its difficult to save. The weather is class though (most of the time). It's a decent place to retire to for sure. I feel like a lot of folk get their fingers burned though, they assume it's like England in the sun and it's really not, especially in the cities. It can be difficult to integrate if you dont speak the language and I think couples and families end up feeling isolated. A decent 'ex-pat' community is a must for wherever you live imo, especially if you're relatively young.

Right now, I'd move back to Saigon for a year rather than spending another year here though, but that's somewhere I hands down wouldn't choose to live forever, the place is wild and especially not on a 'median local wage'. Off to China for a while next, then possibly back to the UK. The North East has so much to offer, its just a shame the weather is atrocious.

Good luck. Where abouts?
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Post by: HTT on Friday 10 May 2019, 11:12:13 AM
My wife wants us to buy land in Kenya and build a family home over there, she is already building her own small) house (to rent out) and she has a share in a tuck tuck business high she gets about 1k a year from :lol:

I’d only move there if I was retired and the kids were up. Where one of her aunts live though it’s beautiful, but a gated community and not the safest for white foreign migrants.
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Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 10 May 2019, 12:15:53 PM
I'd get myself a little apartment in Denmark and spend all day wolf-whistling the beautiful women.
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Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 10 May 2019, 12:31:06 PM
South of Spain is decent. I live there now and one of the major drawbacks is money. Its the poorest region of Spain and wages are pretty s****, its difficult to save. The weather is class though (most of the time). It's a decent place to retire to for sure. I feel like a lot of folk get their fingers burned though, they assume it's like England in the sun and it's really not, especially in the cities. It can be difficult to integrate if you dont speak the language and I think couples and families end up feeling isolated. A decent 'ex-pat' community is a must for wherever you live imo, especially if you're relatively young.

Right now, I'd move back to Saigon for a year rather than spending another year here though, but that's somewhere I hands down wouldn't choose to live forever, the place is wild and especially not on a 'median local wage'. Off to China for a while next, then possibly back to the UK. The North East has so much to offer, its just a shame the weather is atrocious.

Good luck. Where abouts?

Cheers. Hangzhou if I get the position I interviewed for. Shanghai or Shenzhen if not.
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 10 May 2019, 12:41:07 PM
What do you do work wise Zaius?
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Post by: TBG on Friday 10 May 2019, 12:42:42 PM
Doctor.
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 10 May 2019, 12:49:30 PM
:lol:
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Post by: madras on Friday 10 May 2019, 01:15:30 PM
Ibiza, from the places I've been. Get away from San An and the likes it's the most beautiful place Ive been to.

Iceland would be my shout from places I haven't been to.......yet.

No idea what I'd do there as I dont think my line of work exists on either Island. Probably why they appeal.
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Post by: triggs on Friday 10 May 2019, 01:44:13 PM
Think Iceland would be absolutely miserable to live in full time like :lol:
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Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 10 May 2019, 02:35:09 PM
Aye. Summer would be majestic, Winter would be haunting.
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Post by: Doctor Zaius on Friday 10 May 2019, 03:24:22 PM
What do you do work wise Zaius?

English Teacher
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Post by: Beren on Friday 10 May 2019, 04:05:11 PM
Iceland or London.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 10 May 2019, 04:22:04 PM
Iceland is fabulous but it’s too quiet. There’s almost no infrastructure/urban area other than Reykjavik. Most naturally beautiful place I’ve ever been like.
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Post by: Tomato Deuce on Friday 10 May 2019, 04:30:11 PM
Feel like a little cabin in the middle of f***ing nowhere Iceland would be a nice place to spend 6 months of the year.
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Post by: Gottlob on Friday 10 May 2019, 05:04:53 PM
I think I could happily live in Reykjavik. I'm living right now in the north of Sweden with a very similar climate - it's a bit colder here in the winter and warmer in the summer, and in the depths of winter perhaps we get a few extra minutes of sunlight. There are positives and negatives, with the negatives obviously outweighing the positives if you need a bit of heat and don't enjoy snow and ice underfoot for four months of the year. It is nice having very distinct seasons, and really affects the dynamics of everyday life: in the winter you do spend more time indoors getting warm and cosy and all of that sickly sweet stuff, whereas when the spring comes it encourages you to get out and explore and people make the most of the sun. One effect of all the snow is that even in the dark it's actually quite bright and vibrant outside, very different from being grey and overcast.

The centre of Reykjavik feels more cramped but it's a great cultural city, there are outdoor swimming pools and the countryside is really your playground. I've spent most of my life in England and while there's plenty to like a lot of the city centres feel quite crowded and there are aspects of the culture that don't feel that fun. I spent one year in Amsterdam which is a fantastic city in so many ways and really straddles the line between a sort of global city with so many world class museums in particular, while still maintaining a sort of small-town or overgrown village feel. But as with all major cities and capitals, it's easy to feel like you're all living on top of each other.

The ideal is one place in a major capital - New York, Saint Petersburg, Paris, Amsterdam would be my top picks - and another place somewhere secluded, like say the outskirts of Reykjavik or where I'm at. Of course in the future we will be clambering over sunstricken dehydrated corpses for a place in the now teeming north.
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Post by: Ikon on Friday 10 May 2019, 05:08:14 PM
Buenos Aires. Incredible city

I'd eat and drink myself to death there.
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Friday 10 May 2019, 05:14:07 PM
If it wasn't for the darkness during the winter I'd live in Iceland, like. Easy. My SAD would quickly kill me over there as it is, though.
It's actually one of the main reasons I quite like it here. The longer nights in Spring and Summer is the most exciting f***ing thing in the world to me. Moving towards the equator and it getting darker earlier but canny constant all year round is a major turn off.
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Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 10 May 2019, 06:38:43 PM
Aye. Much more concerned about daylight than temp. Not sure I could take anything shorter than a Newcastle winter day.

Reykjavik is also pretty small. Might struggle to entertain after a few years.
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 10 May 2019, 06:43:20 PM
Buenos Aires. Incredible city

I'd eat and drink myself to death there.

That’s the plan
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Post by: cubaricho on Friday 10 May 2019, 06:44:00 PM
Some of y'all have never been to the Florida Keys and it shows.
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Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 10 May 2019, 06:53:26 PM
Considering moving to London currently (brexit dependent), so would choose London or perhaps Berlin or Amsterdam. Never been to Tokyo but if it weren't the massive time difference to where I am now I'd consider it.

Basically anywhere in a big city with a lot going on in a developed nation. I want some goddamn health care and good infrastructure
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 10 May 2019, 07:08:37 PM
We do a fantastic stabbing right now
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Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 10 May 2019, 07:12:41 PM
Some of y'all have never been to the Florida Keys and it shows.

Pasty white geordies would last two weeks tops. Myself included.
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Post by: HTT on Friday 10 May 2019, 07:16:55 PM
I’d love to live in some woodlands in a nature type eco home surrounded by wildlife.

My brother in law lived in parts of Asia for a year renting, Thailand, China, Vietnam. He come back though, missed his kids and Newcastle.

My plan is to save up as much as I can and buy a lovely big family home in Tynemouth or around that area because as much as it rains and the temptation to live elsewhere in England or abroad, we are spoiled here in Northumberland and the North East and I don’t think I’d ever want to live anywhere else for my best years while my kids are still young.

We have a caravan home at Amble and the boys love it, so much to do, see and visit. Our countryside and coastlines are superb and in the summer I love nowt better than spending a full day out along Tynemouth, Whitleybay and even over to South of there.

Durham is quite nice too.

My sis live in Twickenham and I love it, but the price of properties to rent or by and the driving issues would devalue any of the pros especially what a fraction of the money gets me here.

I’d like a holiday home abroad one day if I could and if I didn’t have kids and a business I’d have loved to live abroad for a while. Barcelona and Paris for a year would be great for example and I love travelling around Germany and Belgium.

When we went to Brussels last year I could picture myself being happy living there for a while and Heidelberg too.

Right now though it’s all about the kids, good schools, being close to family and being close to places that allow us to go on bike rides, camping, exploring rocks and caves, sandy beaches, boat trips, exploring castles and historic landmarks.

For all my criticism I’m lucky to have been born a Geordie. We have everything on our doorstep and can acces Scotland, Cumbria and Yorkshire in a few hours drive.

What takes away from our cities and towns is the people or rather the growing arseholes and the w***** nobhead levels of anti-social, charver, binge drinking loutish culture that they bring wherever they go, be it the City center or places like Tynemouth on a hot day and even events like classic car shows or music and food festivals.

From Newcastle to Exeter it’s the same s*** which you don’t get in other places abroad, unless the English arrive on masse anyway.

Great thread btw, very interesting reading. Me, and I don’t know if this is percular to me, I’d rather put my life savings into buying a house to live here than rent, but anywhere else and abroad I’d rather have the money sitting in the bank. I don’t know if it’s a homely tribal settlement mentality wired into us or something.

Great thread btw.
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Post by: Disco on Friday 10 May 2019, 07:33:58 PM
Some of y'all have never been to the Florida Keys and it shows.

Pasty white geordies would last two weeks tops. Myself included.

Sounds sweaty as f***. Hurricanes would keep you on your feet (or not as the case may be) though.
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Post by: chopey on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:04:29 PM
I plan to retire to Blanchland or Wolsingham if I can get the right property
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:24:30 PM
Blanchland is gorgeous like.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:34:31 PM
Thought about this loads too. I'd either stay here & move to somewhere quieter out of town, or do the equivalent but on the outskirts of Saint Petersburg. My needs/interests can be met/afforded pretty simply. Coastal or country paths to walk, clean air to breathe, a city nearby to be inspired by (in both its light & dark sides), a sense of history and story in my surroundings (can't stand pristine plastic cities/parts of cities) a shelf full of great books & some software to design & create artwork. The reason it'd be Russia if not England is because for me, their history, literature & arts are superb; for me only England & France are comparable in the regard but fall short. The feeling of being there, looks for signs of the life of said history, looking for marks of what may have inspired said arts & literature would fill me with fascination and joy for as long as I could live.

That'd be me. What about you, Minhosa?

Saint Petersburg is an interesting choice but it's a bit grim on the outskirts, unless you live somewhere like Pushkin which is really nice. The main issue I've found with living in Russia (my wife is from St.P) is not so much the weather, as their summers p*ss on ours, it's the lack of sunlight......basically, you never see the sun for about 4 months from the end of October, just dark grey skies every single day.......it's really depressing. The food's pretty grim too, and Putin's getting worse.
 Love the place apart from that, you're right about the culture there mind, there's so much to see and the people are very well read and educated in the main. It certainly gets a bad press in that respect.

Interesting, thanks for that :thup: I haven't seen Pushkin, but tbh I'm not terribly apposed to the so called grimmer parts out of the centre. I'm a bit of a freak for high rise apartment blocks & social housing. Recently spent a month travelling round Belarus & loved meandering through the high rise apartment blocks/estates  in Gomel night & day. Perhaps it'd become old and I'd long for something a bit more pleasant or quaint but I'm sure Petersburg offers that in abundance too.
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Post by: chopey on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:46:52 PM
Blanchland is gorgeous like.

Aye unfortunately its mostly owned by arabs though for grouse shooting.
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Post by: Disco on Friday 10 May 2019, 10:02:26 PM
Blanchland is gorgeous like.

Aye unfortunately its mostly owned by arabs though for grouse shooting.

Can’t have sky either. Sunday lunch and a pint of their own at the Lord Crewe almost makes up for it.
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Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 11 May 2019, 07:57:24 AM
For me, it would be Marco Island in Florida.

I'd use £80k as a deposit on a place and then £20k deposit on a car (with having no credit history there) and then, on the median salary, spend my free time fishing off the beautiful white beaches, eating great food and reading books on my balcony.

Relatively low cost living of the dream.

@Infinitely Content - sorry mate, just noticed that you asked me a couple of pages ago.
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Post by: geordie john on Saturday 11 May 2019, 02:55:18 PM
I admit we're living the dream right now! Retired 2 years ago (I ran my own business) sold everything and moved to the middle of France. Bought (cash!) a fabulous old house, acre of land. Spend 2 years making it a modern, safe home. Rewire, re-plumb, total decorate, made the land a garden and massive veg patch. We grow our own food, mostly. Have about 12 fruit trees, vegetables, Fruit bushes, 60 strawberry plants, a big pool. Life can be tough, France is not cheap, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Traffic- what's traffic?
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Post by: Varadi on Saturday 11 May 2019, 04:42:58 PM
Sounds fantastic!

You mind me asking what sort of budget you managed the move on? Or what you reckon the minimum something similar could be done on?
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Post by: madras on Saturday 11 May 2019, 05:29:25 PM
I admit we're living the dream right now! Retired 2 years ago (I ran my own business) sold everything and moved to the middle of France. Bought (cash!) a fabulous old house, acre of land. Spend 2 years making it a modern, safe home. Rewire, re-plumb, total decorate, made the land a garden and massive veg patch. We grow our own food, mostly. Have about 12 fruit trees, vegetables, Fruit bushes, 60 strawberry plants, a big pool. Life can be tough, France is not cheap, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Traffic- what's traffic?
Bloody immigrants  ;D
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Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Saturday 11 May 2019, 07:10:50 PM
I admit we're living the dream right now! Retired 2 years ago (I ran my own business) sold everything and moved to the middle of France. Bought (cash!) a fabulous old house, acre of land. Spend 2 years making it a modern, safe home. Rewire, re-plumb, total decorate, made the land a garden and massive veg patch. We grow our own food, mostly. Have about 12 fruit trees, vegetables, Fruit bushes, 60 strawberry plants, a big pool. Life can be tough, France is not cheap, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Traffic- what's traffic?

That’s class 👍
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Post by: UncleBingo on Saturday 11 May 2019, 07:12:22 PM
Thought about this loads too. I'd either stay here & move to somewhere quieter out of town, or do the equivalent but on the outskirts of Saint Petersburg. My needs/interests can be met/afforded pretty simply. Coastal or country paths to walk, clean air to breathe, a city nearby to be inspired by (in both its light & dark sides), a sense of history and story in my surroundings (can't stand pristine plastic cities/parts of cities) a shelf full of great books & some software to design & create artwork. The reason it'd be Russia if not England is because for me, their history, literature & arts are superb; for me only England & France are comparable in the regard but fall short. The feeling of being there, looks for signs of the life of said history, looking for marks of what may have inspired said arts & literature would fill me with fascination and joy for as long as I could live.

That'd be me. What about you, Minhosa?

Saint Petersburg is an interesting choice but it's a bit grim on the outskirts, unless you live somewhere like Pushkin which is really nice. The main issue I've found with living in Russia (my wife is from St.P) is not so much the weather, as their summers p*ss on ours, it's the lack of sunlight......basically, you never see the sun for about 4 months from the end of October, just dark grey skies every single day.......it's really depressing. The food's pretty grim too, and Putin's getting worse.
 Love the place apart from that, you're right about the culture there mind, there's so much to see and the people are very well read and educated in the main. It certainly gets a bad press in that respect.

Interesting, thanks for that :thup: I haven't seen Pushkin, but tbh I'm not terribly apposed to the so called grimmer parts out of the centre. I'm a bit of a freak for high rise apartment blocks & social housing. Recently spent a month travelling round Belarus & loved meandering through the high rise apartment blocks/estates  in Gomel night & day. Perhaps it'd become old and I'd long for something a bit more pleasant or quaint but I'm sure Petersburg offers that in abundance too.

If you're ever serious about it, give me a shout as I've got friends and family who live there.

One more negative, the air quality can be really bad, especially in the summer.....far too many s*** box cars knocking about coupled with cheap low quality fuel  make it a nightmare sometimes.
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Post by: Gottlob on Saturday 11 May 2019, 09:54:32 PM
I visited Saint Petersburg for about five weeks a number of years ago, on a language course that was really just a means for the visit, and I've been back since and stayed in hotels but on that occasion stayed in an apartment in the area round Prospekt Bolshevikov metro station. It's not particularly out of the way and there were plenty of shops especially by the metro, but the bulk of the area was fairly grim high-rise apartments. It was a fun area to stay in though, certainly never felt dangerous, and there is something quite spartan and liberating about the high-rises, even if it's probably very different to live there permanently.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 12 May 2019, 12:14:39 AM
Thought about this loads too. I'd either stay here & move to somewhere quieter out of town, or do the equivalent but on the outskirts of Saint Petersburg. My needs/interests can be met/afforded pretty simply. Coastal or country paths to walk, clean air to breathe, a city nearby to be inspired by (in both its light & dark sides), a sense of history and story in my surroundings (can't stand pristine plastic cities/parts of cities) a shelf full of great books & some software to design & create artwork. The reason it'd be Russia if not England is because for me, their history, literature & arts are superb; for me only England & France are comparable in the regard but fall short. The feeling of being there, looks for signs of the life of said history, looking for marks of what may have inspired said arts & literature would fill me with fascination and joy for as long as I could live.

That'd be me. What about you, Minhosa?

Saint Petersburg is an interesting choice but it's a bit grim on the outskirts, unless you live somewhere like Pushkin which is really nice. The main issue I've found with living in Russia (my wife is from St.P) is not so much the weather, as their summers p*ss on ours, it's the lack of sunlight......basically, you never see the sun for about 4 months from the end of October, just dark grey skies every single day.......it's really depressing. The food's pretty grim too, and Putin's getting worse.
 Love the place apart from that, you're right about the culture there mind, there's so much to see and the people are very well read and educated in the main. It certainly gets a bad press in that respect.

Interesting, thanks for that :thup: I haven't seen Pushkin, but tbh I'm not terribly apposed to the so called grimmer parts out of the centre. I'm a bit of a freak for high rise apartment blocks & social housing. Recently spent a month travelling round Belarus & loved meandering through the high rise apartment blocks/estates  in Gomel night & day. Perhaps it'd become old and I'd long for something a bit more pleasant or quaint but I'm sure Petersburg offers that in abundance too.

If you're ever serious about it, give me a shout as I've got friends and family who live there.

One more negative, the air quality can be really bad, especially in the summer.....far too many s*** box cars knocking about coupled with cheap low quality fuel  make it a nightmare sometimes.

Definitely something I'm wanting to do, even if it's just for a certain number of years before returning back to England. Of course it will be dependent on being able to find work in my field there prior to moving. I work at a place doing graphic design/web design here (NE) & wish to continue on that career path. I'll also need to develop my Russian language ability which is still very much beginner level but improved a fair bit whilst in Belarus. But yeah, it's an option I'd seriously entertain should the right opportunity arise.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: geordie john on Sunday 12 May 2019, 07:02:32 AM
Sounds fantastic!

You mind me asking what sort of budget you managed the move on? Or what you reckon the minimum something similar could be done on?

Varadi, it can be done cheaply, it all depends on what you want and where it is. In some parts of rural France there are run down places that can be bought for €40k-50k, plus renovation costs which are expensive! We spent a total of about €1350k and we run it as an occasional B&B to bring in some cash. You can spend a lot more it you want to! Thinking of doing it?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Sunday 12 May 2019, 08:56:16 AM
I admit we're living the dream right now! Retired 2 years ago (I ran my own business) sold everything and moved to the middle of France. Bought (cash!) a fabulous old house, acre of land. Spend 2 years making it a modern, safe home. Rewire, re-plumb, total decorate, made the land a garden and massive veg patch. We grow our own food, mostly. Have about 12 fruit trees, vegetables, Fruit bushes, 60 strawberry plants, a big pool. Life can be tough, France is not cheap, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Traffic- what's traffic?

Amazing. Love hearing about stories like this.

I've got a client who's just turned 50. We were chatting a while ago and he said he'd be retired within 12-18 months. f***ing hell, I thought, he's really young to be retired. Turns out he's had a plan his whole life. To be retired by 52 at the latest, sell one of his two houses and then spend the money from that on a boat (£180k).

He's already identified the boat he wants and he plans to sail around the world meeting his daughters wherever they choose to go annually on holiday. They go to Italy or wherever, he'll sail in to meet them etc.

He'll rent out his other home to help support it but, brilliantly imho, he's trained at night school for the last few years to be become a marine engineer/mechanic meaning he can fix his own boat and then get paid to fix other folks boats.

His current day job? A shopping centre manager.

He plans, health allowing, to do this until he's 65 and then return to the UK working in Tesco's or wherever to top up his pension as he'll miss the last ten years of pension contributions due to the early 'retirement'.

Love it when people have a plan and not just a dream.....
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Sunday 12 May 2019, 08:57:33 AM
Sounds fantastic!

You mind me asking what sort of budget you managed the move on? Or what you reckon the minimum something similar could be done on?

Varadi, it can be done cheaply, it all depends on what you want and where it is. In some parts of rural France there are run down places that can be bought for €40k-50k, plus renovation costs which are expensive! We spent a total of about €1350k and we run it as an occasional B&B to bring in some cash. You can spend a lot more it you want to! Thinking of doing it?

Great to hear you've had the balls to go through with your plan. So many people talk the talk but come up with a million reasons why they can't do stuff. Out of interest, what did you do before retiring John? And do you use those skills in France?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: geordie john on Sunday 12 May 2019, 09:18:23 AM
I admit we're living the dream right now! Retired 2 years ago (I ran my own business) sold everything and moved to the middle of France. Bought (cash!) a fabulous old house, acre of land. Spend 2 years making it a modern, safe home. Rewire, re-plumb, total decorate, made the land a garden and massive veg patch. We grow our own food, mostly. Have about 12 fruit trees, vegetables, Fruit bushes, 60 strawberry plants, a big pool. Life can be tough, France is not cheap, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Traffic- what's traffic?

Amazing. Love hearing about stories like this.

I've got a client who's just turned 50. We were chatting a while ago and he said he'd be retired within 12-18 months. f***ing hell, I thought, he's really young to be retired. Turns out he's had a plan his whole life. To be retired by 52 at the latest, sell one of his two houses and then spend the money from that on a boat (£180k).

He's already identified the boat he wants and he plans to sail around the world meeting his daughters wherever they choose to go annually on holiday. They go to Italy or wherever, he'll sail in to meet them etc.

He'll rent out his other home to help support it but, brilliantly imho, he's trained at night school for the last few years to be become a marine engineer/mechanic meaning he can fix his own boat and then get paid to fix other folks boats.

His current day job? A shopping centre manager.

He plans, health allowing, to do this until he's 65 and then return to the UK working in Tesco's or wherever to top up his pension as he'll miss the last ten years of pension contributions due to the early 'retirement'.

Love it when people have a plan and not just a dream.....

Great story! I love it when people actually DO something rather than just think about it. Life is too short......
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: geordie john on Sunday 12 May 2019, 09:23:47 AM
Sounds fantastic!

You mind me asking what sort of budget you managed the move on? Or what you reckon the minimum something similar could be done on?

Varadi, it can be done cheaply, it all depends on what you want and where it is. In some parts of rural France there are run down places that can be bought for €40k-50k, plus renovation costs which are expensive! We spent a total of about €1350k and we run it as an occasional B&B to bring in some cash. You can spend a lot more it you want to! Thinking of doing it?

Great to hear you've had the balls to go through with your plan. So many people talk the talk but come up with a million reasons why they can't do stuff. Out of interest, what did you do before retiring John? And do you use those skills in France?

For so many years there were reasons not to do it. Mother ageing, kids living at home at school, work, mortgage.......then there comes a time when it is possible to do it. I miss the UK zero %. Too many people, too much traffic, politicians, Brexit, shitty roads, poor funding of NHS, Police, Schools, it's basically going down the drain, despite it being a great place with fabulous countryside. I miss family but that's it, and they come over on cheap flights whenever they can.
I ran a decorating business in the Uk and have always been practical, so I've used all of my skills - and learnt some - to do up the house here with my wife. Labour is expensive and materials certainly are so you get used to being economical with things! My wife and I did the whole house and garden.
Great question and appreciate your interest!
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: frankpingel on Sunday 12 May 2019, 09:26:53 AM
I retired at 50 and for me that's it, couldn't go back doing some sort of work to top my pensions up as that's not my idea of being retired. Mind geordie john seems to have nailed it, my feeling are more towards the client of Minhosa, starting to work again at 65? Not for me.
Great thread idea though, enjoying reading folks ideas and dreams.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: geordie john on Sunday 12 May 2019, 09:29:36 AM
This is a great thread and some great stories.
Wife and I worked bloody hard all our life and there comes a point when you say 'you know, there must be more to it than this'. My advice - do it, whatever it is, just do it. I swore a very long time ago my last words before I leave this world will never, ever be 'if only'......
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Sunday 12 May 2019, 09:47:43 AM
I retired at 50 and for me that's it, couldn't go back doing some sort of work to top my pensions up as that's not my idea of being retired. Mind geordie john seems to have nailed it, my feeling are more towards the client of Minhosa, starting to work again at 65? Not for me.
Great thread idea though, enjoying reading folks ideas and dreams.

I spoke to him about that funnily enough. His argument was that living at sea for a large % of the year is actually very physically demanding and if he waited ten more years he's not 100% sure he'd have the strength/health/energy hence his decision to do it that way. The Tesco thing would be nothing when he's had so much responsibility in the past tbh. I think it's just a pension topper if he needs it. He might not.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Sunday 12 May 2019, 09:51:14 AM
Sounds fantastic!

You mind me asking what sort of budget you managed the move on? Or what you reckon the minimum something similar could be done on?

Varadi, it can be done cheaply, it all depends on what you want and where it is. In some parts of rural France there are run down places that can be bought for €40k-50k, plus renovation costs which are expensive! We spent a total of about €1350k and we run it as an occasional B&B to bring in some cash. You can spend a lot more it you want to! Thinking of doing it?

Great to hear you've had the balls to go through with your plan. So many people talk the talk but come up with a million reasons why they can't do stuff. Out of interest, what did you do before retiring John? And do you use those skills in France?

For so many years there were reasons not to do it. Mother ageing, kids living at home at school, work, mortgage.......then there comes a time when it is possible to do it. I miss the UK zero %. Too many people, too much traffic, politicians, Brexit, shitty roads, poor funding of NHS, Police, Schools, it's basically going down the drain, despite it being a great place with fabulous countryside. I miss family but that's it, and they come over on cheap flights whenever they can.
I ran a decorating business in the Uk and have always been practical, so I've used all of my skills - and learnt some - to do up the house here with my wife. Labour is expensive and materials certainly are so you get used to being economical with things! My wife and I did the whole house and garden.
Great question and appreciate your interest!

Amazing and some achievement for you and the Mrs.

Our long term will 100% be out of the UK for many of the reasons you mention. For the other reasons you mention (the hurdles that prevent you from doing it now) we just need to time it right.

I think it will be at least 12 years for us due to the age of the kids, their schooling etc etc. If it wasn't for that, we'd already be abroad thqh.

As it is, it has to be a retirement plan rather than a working life plan I think. Who knows....
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: geordie john on Sunday 12 May 2019, 10:08:46 AM
Minhosa, The timing must be 100% right for anyone to do it without regrets. I do wish I / we could have done it earlier but family stopped us doing it. In reality, many Britts out here have come with young family and most, although not all, settle in really well and the kids are bilingual. I'm 66 now and in good health, but so wished I could have done it 10 years ago. Getting work is difficult but not impossible if you have good skills and learn the language. The B&B side tops up my pension, but we have to be careful about spending and saving. We do live a good, healthy clean life, eat good food and drink our own wine. My days of working in London seem a very long time ago!
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: henke on Monday 13 May 2019, 08:21:10 AM
I lived in Sydney, the wife loves the place too and not for the first we're weighing up going. With savings and plenty of equity in our house we thought we'd be able to live somewhere decent. Not like the one bed s*** hole I used to live in. But the exchange rate will probably kill it, we'd be living 30 miles from a beach and spending 2 hours a day in traffic.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 13 May 2019, 08:30:59 AM
I lived in Sydney, the wife loves the place too and not for the first we're weighing up going. With savings and plenty of equity in our house we thought we'd be able to live somewhere decent. Not like the one bed s*** hole I used to live in. But the exchange rate will probably kill it, we'd be living 30 miles from a beach and spending 2 hours a day in traffic.

What do you do for work Henke? And would you stay in the same career over there?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: henke on Monday 13 May 2019, 09:08:45 AM
I'm a spark, well instruments by trade. There's plenty of project engineer type jobs in the city I'm qualified for but like I said I'd be two hours a day in traffic.
We've considered fifo jobs but it seems insane that to give my kids a better life I'd be away from home 50% of the time.
And yeah I love my job, couldn't imagine doing anything else.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 13 May 2019, 09:29:09 AM
I liked LA to visit but it looked a living nightmare to live in :lol: suppose it’s a similar attitude towards central London - where I live
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: cubaricho on Monday 13 May 2019, 09:43:24 AM
LA is f***ing trash.
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 02:13:53 AM
LA is f***ing trash.

It's absolutely awful.  There are some cool places to visit there, but then you leave them and remember you're still in LA.

Is there a worse place on Earth than Venice Beach?
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: geordie john on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 02:45:33 PM
LA is f***ing trash.

It's absolutely awful.  There are some cool places to visit there, but then you leave them and remember you're still in LA.

Is there a worse place on Earth than Venice Beach?

Surely Las Vagas tops any bill? Hell on Earth......
Title: Re: Living Anywhere in the World.......
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 03:04:29 PM
I guess it depends if you prefer walking to dinner/drinks/a show or sitting in endless traffic.