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NUFC => Football => Topic started by: Rich on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:36:41 PM

Title: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Rich on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:36:41 PM

Seems to be gathering pace, this one.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Anderson on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:37:06 PM
Thread!  :frantic:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: STM on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:37:32 PM
f*** sake. I've used all the hot water.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:38:02 PM
9m?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: NITON on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:39:32 PM
Before we get too excited. Joselu has a better goal record in German football than this guy...
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:39:40 PM
Waiting for the Ryder "Understand no agreement has been reached between NUFC and Mainz for Muto. United remain interested however."
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:40:27 PM
Before we get too excited. Joselu has a better goal record in German football than this guy...
Joselu also has a better goals per minute ratio for Real Madrid at the Bernabeu than Cristiano.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Elliottman on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:41:33 PM
Before we get too excited. Joselu has a better goal record in German football than this guy...

I see very little excitement here.

What position is he? Striker or number 10?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:42:15 PM
Probably Muto to do about nothing.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:43:24 PM
Hello, Muto.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:43:45 PM
Hello, Muto.

:lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:47:03 PM

Seems to be gathering pace, this one.
Kyodo news is reliable. Always wanted us to sign a Japanese player (lived there for 10 years and have a Japanese wife) although know very little about Muto.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:47:56 PM
Hello, Muto.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: shakey jake on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:48:07 PM
Hello, Muto.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Ikon on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:48:37 PM
Hai! Wakarimaze Sempukisan. Cool, love Japanese people :thup:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:50:31 PM
All for this lad. Bit of a turn of pace about him, and if he can bring that work rate, discipline and commitment Japan displayed at the World Cup I'm sure Rafa will value him highly.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:50:45 PM
Before we get too excited. Joselu has a better goal record in German football than this guy...

No doesn't.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:54:15 PM
All for this lad. Bit of a turn of pace about him, and if he can bring that work rate, discipline and commitment Japan displayed at the World Cup I'm sure Rafa will value him highly.

Same feeling. Can’t remember this guy specifically but was really impressed by Japan.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Bimpy474 on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:54:41 PM
Hello, Muto.

You absolute f***er, I've been sitting on that all day  :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Elric on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:57:36 PM
All for this lad. Bit of a turn of pace about him, and if he can bring that work rate, discipline and commitment Japan displayed at the World Cup I'm sure Rafa will value him highly.

Ashley will probably ask him to pick up any litter in the stands as well.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Menace on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 07:59:09 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: geordiedean on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:01:27 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.

Easily pleased
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:02:47 PM
Wasn't sure about this happening until I saw Kyodo news.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: RodneyCisse on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:04:25 PM
He’s pretty good looking.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:05:26 PM
What kind of player is he? Striker, wide forward?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: geordiedean on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:05:35 PM
All for this lad. Bit of a turn of pace about him, and if he can bring that work rate, discipline and commitment Japan displayed at the World Cup I'm sure Rafa will value him highly.

Same feeling. Can’t remember this guy specifically but was really impressed by Japan.

Played 1 game against Poland iirc was it  and see how he adapts. Kagawa struggled a bit and he's the superstar of the country. Yoshida and Okazaki have been ok though
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:07:22 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.
Would like Bryan too but still far from great imo.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: gdm on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:10:23 PM
All for this lad. Bit of a turn of pace about him, and if he can bring that work rate, discipline and commitment Japan displayed at the World Cup I'm sure Rafa will value him highly.

Same feeling. Can’t remember this guy specifically but was really impressed by Japan.

Only played 82 mins
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: gdm on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:11:40 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.

Nah it’d still be pretty s***.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Bimpy474 on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:12:49 PM
We desperately need left back cover, or to make Dummett that cover.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Mr Logic on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:13:29 PM
What kind of player is he? Striker, wide forward?

From the clips I just watched looked more like Perez than Mitro if that's any help.
(Taking a leaf out of the Dennis Wise School of Scouting)
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:19:59 PM
We desperately need left back cover, or to make Dummett that cover.
Dummett is absolutely fine for where we are.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:22:10 PM
Class, another sideways-step signing. Also means Mitro is definitely away then. Show Ash the ££££
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:23:35 PM
Rondon and Muto for Mitrovic and Gayle? Christ knows if that represents any actual improvement.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Bimpy474 on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:23:59 PM
We desperately need left back cover, or to make Dummett that cover.
Dummett is absolutely fine for where we are.

Aye but we need cover, at the moment we have a winger doing it in Cal Roberts, Manquillo as well but nope, i'm not having him he's utterly awful. Mbabu would have been better to keep as full back cover imo.

But we need a proper LB as cover or competition for Dummett.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:24:52 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.

How? Look at the way all the teams around us and the newly promoted teams are going about their business. We haven't actually improved on a single position from last season, even with these players incoming.

Rondon - Mitro : very little comparison between the 2, for the money and potential I'd rather Mitro
Muto - Gayle : a 1 in 3 striker in Germany, looks handy but ultimately doesn't score many... very Gayle-esque by the sounds of it.
Schar - Mbemba : complete sideways step

It's a complete f***ing joke. We're pathetic.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:24:52 PM
What kind of player is he? Striker, wide forward?

From the clips I just watched looked more like Perez than Mitro if that's any help.
(Taking a leaf out of the Dennis Wise School of Scouting)

:thup:

Wouldn’t hurt to have competition for Ayoze. I wonder how well they’d play together though. Guess we’ll have to hope that we can get Rondon through the door.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:26:56 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.

How? Look at the way all the teams around us and the newly promoted teams are going about their business. We haven't actually improved on a single position from last season, even with these players incoming.

Rondon - Mitro : very little comparison between the 2, for the money and potential I'd rather Mitro
Muto - Gayle : a 1 in 3 striker in Germany, looks handy but ultimately doesn't score many... very Gayle-esque by the sounds of it.
Schar - Mbemba : complete sideways step

It's a complete f***ing joke. We're pathetic.

We’ve done the absolute bare minimum yet again.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: gdm on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:28:46 PM
The likes of Rondon, muto and Schar are the types of player we’ll struggle to get off our books in 2 years
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:30:28 PM
Time for a transfer Sentō
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:30:33 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.

How? Look at the way all the teams around us and the newly promoted teams are going about their business. We haven't actually improved on a single position from last season, even with these players incoming.

Rondon - Mitro : very little comparison between the 2, for the money and potential I'd rather Mitro
Muto - Gayle : a 1 in 3 striker in Germany, looks handy but ultimately doesn't score many... very Gayle-esque by the sounds of it.
Schar - Mbemba : complete sideways step

It's a complete f***ing joke. We're pathetic.

:thup:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: geordiedean on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:33:04 PM
Rondon and Muto for Mitrovic and Gayle? Christ knows if that represents any actual improvement.

Throiw in Joselu we may get 10 goals between them

Totally uninspiring set of forwards the absolute worst in the league
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:34:33 PM
It's the usual thing isn't it. Get people into a position where they think they won't be fed and they'll be grateful for the crumbs.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: morla84 on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:34:35 PM
Muto dressed as Lamb?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:35:47 PM
I think that would be good business by Rafa considering how much he's restricted.

Everyone knows that football is much more complicated that analysis of man versus man. I think Rafa has done well to maintain the quality of the squad and perhaps he's confident that they'll actually improve it. Considering he's better placed to judge, I think we can rest a little bit easier, surely? I mean if this was the business done by Pardew, we'd have a good reason to panic, yes! But no, they were picked by a much better manager than the likes of Pardew.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:37:31 PM
It's the usual thing isn't it. Get people into a position where they think they won't be fed and they'll be grateful for the crumbs.

(https://i.imgur.com/JNKUatG.jpg)

Poor Yoshi

(you're right, like)
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:39:12 PM
I think that would be good business by Rafa considering how much he's restricted.

Everyone knows that football is much more complicated that analysis of man versus man. I think Rafa has done well to maintain the quality of the squad and perhaps he's confident that they'll actually improve it. Considering he's better placed to judge, I think we can rest a little bit easier, surely? I mean if this was the business done by Pardew, we'd have a good reason to panic, yes! But no, they were picked by a much better manager than the likes of Pardew.

It has nothing to do with Rafa and to be honest has nothing to do with him keeping us up or doing well, it's about the absolute c*** of an owner we have hamstringing us.

I'm not panicking, I'm almost past caring about what happens as it inevitably looks like whether we stay up or not, Rafa is away at the end of the season and the best chance we've ever had since Bobby to "wake the sleeping giant", win a trophy, or do anything which makes us love and feel proud of our club is gone.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:39:29 PM
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto

(Leon Kompowsky’s - Happy Birthday Lisa)
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:39:56 PM
Sell Mitrovic for £18m, get Muto in for £9m?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:42:02 PM
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto

(Leon Kompowsky’s - Happy Birthday Lisa)

:lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto

(Leon Kompowsky’s - Happy Birthday Lisa)
Love it
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: madras on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:42:42 PM
Sell Mitrovic for £18m, get Muto in for £9m?
£9mill transfer fee. Then wages, agents fee, signing on fee, flowers for his Mrs, the cost of getting his name put on his tops all mounts up.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: duo on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:42:58 PM
He'll give his all we can be sure of that - rather this lad than Rondon.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:44:37 PM
He'll give his all we can be sure of that - rather this lad than Rondon.
Why?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:44:44 PM
I think that would be good business by Rafa considering how much he's restricted.

Everyone knows that football is much more complicated that analysis of man versus man. I think Rafa has done well to maintain the quality of the squad and perhaps he's confident that they'll actually improve it. Considering he's better placed to judge, I think we can rest a little bit easier, surely? I mean if this was the business done by Pardew, we'd have a good reason to panic, yes! But no, they were picked by a much better manager than the likes of Pardew.

It has nothing to do with Rafa and to be honest has nothing to do with him keeping us up or doing well, it's about the absolute c*** of an owner we have hamstringing us.

I'm not panicking, I'm almost past caring about what happens as it inevitably looks like whether we stay up or not, Rafa is away at the end of the season and the best chance we've ever had since Bobby to "wake the sleeping giant", win a trophy, or do anything which makes us love and feel proud of our club is gone.

Yeah, of course we should have done better, no one is denying that. But this doesn't mean that we necessarily have gone backwards.

I'm too resigned to Rafa leaving, but this doesn't mean that I don't want things to carry on business as usual as much as possible. Though if we go down this season, and that Rafa was leaving anyway, it wouldn't be the worse news in the world!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:45:22 PM
He'll give his all we can be sure of that - rather this lad than Rondon.

*London, ye daft racist
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:45:24 PM
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto

(Leon Kompowsky’s - Happy Birthday Lisa)

:lol:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:48:03 PM
He looked ok at the world cup, but that doesn't really mean a lot, it was only a couple of games. I'm just worried these low fee bargains are going to turn out to be low impact as well when it comes to moving into the Premier league.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: andydunc on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:48:58 PM
Here’s hoping he’s 2018 version of Bellamy.  Hard working, fast, little fella!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:49:46 PM
Hope he scores exclusively terrible goals and wheels away like a mad man every time
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:50:01 PM
Another day down.
Another day down, no players in.

Sold one though!
Another day of f*** all. :thup:

Run that transfer bath, Dave. Weeee're back :pow:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto

(Leon Kompowsky’s - Happy Birthday Lisa)

Yes.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:52:15 PM


He looked ok at the world cup, but that doesn't really mean a lot, it was only a couple of games.

One game
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:54:48 PM
I think that would be good business by Rafa considering how much he's restricted.

Everyone knows that football is much more complicated that analysis of man versus man. I think Rafa has done well to maintain the quality of the squad and perhaps he's confident that they'll actually improve it. Considering he's better placed to judge, I think we can rest a little bit easier, surely? I mean if this was the business done by Pardew, we'd have a good reason to panic, yes! But no, they were picked by a much better manager than the likes of Pardew.

It has nothing to do with Rafa and to be honest has nothing to do with him keeping us up or doing well, it's about the absolute c*** of an owner we have hamstringing us.

I'm not panicking, I'm almost past caring about what happens as it inevitably looks like whether we stay up or not, Rafa is away at the end of the season and the best chance we've ever had since Bobby to "wake the sleeping giant", win a trophy, or do anything which makes us love and feel proud of our club is gone.

Yeah, of course we should have done better, no one is denying that. But this doesn't mean that we necessarily have gone backwards.

I'm too resigned to Rafa leaving, but this doesn't mean that I don't want things to carry on business as usual as much as possible. Though if we go down this season, and that Rafa was leaving anyway, it wouldn't be the worse news in the world!

But why is not going backwards being seen as something we can be remotely happy with? We haven't went forward, Ashley has continued to pocket all the money from broadcasting, merchandise, gates etc. not to mention the advertising of his f***ing tat everywhere.

If Rafa is leaving regardless, I couldn't give a f*** if we go down - it might actually be the straw that breaks the camels back both for him and the fans.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:55:24 PM
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto

(Leon Kompowsky’s - Happy Birthday Lisa)

Class :lol:

Or it's a chance to replace Mitro's on fire with Muto's on fire
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: gdm on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 08:55:55 PM
He looked ok at the world cup, but that doesn't really mean a lot, it was only a couple of games. I'm just worried these low fee bargains are going to turn out to be low impact as well when it comes to moving into the Premier league.

All 82 mins in a 1-0 defeat
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:00:41 PM
He looked ok at the world cup, but that doesn't really mean a lot, it was only a couple of games. I'm just worried these low fee bargains are going to turn out to be low impact as well when it comes to moving into the Premier league.

All 82 mins in a 1-0 defeat

Well let's hope his Bundesliga pedigree was solid enough to tempt us to splash that big cash.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:04:42 PM
Looks like a Japanese Mikel Arteta n all.

He’ll likely be gash and horrifically lightweight but let’s crack open the happōshu‘s because we’re too tight to pay for real beer.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Lush Vlad on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:07:35 PM
This guy, Schar and Rondon and it's not been all bad I guess.

How? Look at the way all the teams around us and the newly promoted teams are going about their business. We haven't actually improved on a single position from last season, even with these players incoming.

Rondon - Mitro : very little comparison between the 2, for the money and potential I'd rather Mitro
Muto - Gayle : a 1 in 3 striker in Germany, looks handy but ultimately doesn't score many... very Gayle-esque by the sounds of it.
Schar - Mbemba : complete sideways step

It's a complete f***ing joke. We're pathetic.

Whilst I agree with your closing line and am disgusted with the transfer window, yet again.  Rafa won't/wouldn't play 2 of the 3 and Gayle is just nowhere near good enough to play as the lone forward.  So the only slight positive I can take, is at least Rafa is getting his players in, that might actually feature.  Albeit 6th/7th choice or worse on his list. 

Clutching at straws?  100% I am :lol: but I'm trying to find the small flakes of gold, buried amongst the copious amounts of dung.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:09:45 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/352ok7l.jpg)
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:13:46 PM
Do you think he'll sign?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wJcJAo3mIbs/SXqsUE8OfDI/AAAAAAAAAfg/DVmVf79S_p0/s320/banzai.jpg)
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:17:50 PM
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto
Muto, he’s a striker
Yoshinori Muto

(Leon Kompowsky’s - Happy Birthday Lisa)

Intro first verse redux:

Muto, he’s a striker
He comes from Toe-key-oh
He gave us the gift of lots of goals
Now here’s how his song goes...
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Lush Vlad on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:18:07 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/352ok7l.jpg)

He'd certainly take my breath away, if we signed him.

WALKING ON THE MOOOOOON!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Tiresias on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:36:45 PM
If he turns out to be total s*** do you think it will finally provoke a mutony.

I'll see myself out
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: GeordieDazzler on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 09:58:19 PM
Muto and Mato dream team up front
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:00:41 PM
No idea why he's getting such a massively negative reaction like. Few years ago a player like him would be welcomed, Schar too. Now it's people ridiculing them before they've even kicked a ball.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:04:14 PM
Ridiculing the method, not the player. We go for poor quality players, there's no getting away from that. If they end up being decent it's through luck not design.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:04:43 PM
Kaka been on to tell us we’ll be surprised just how good this lad will be?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:10:48 PM
No idea why he's getting such a massively negative reaction like. Few years ago a player like him would be welcomed, Schar too. Now it's people ridiculing them before they've even kicked a ball.

?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Mr Logic on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:31:05 PM
Ridiculing the method, not the player. We go for poor quality players, there's no getting away from that. If they end up being decent it's through luck not design.

Poor seems like a tad exaggerated, they're both internationals. If that's poor what adjective best fits the like of Joselu?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:37:43 PM
Ridiculing the method, not the player. We go for poor quality players, there's no getting away from that. If they end up being decent it's through luck not design.

Poor seems like a tad exaggerated, they're both internationals. If that's poor what adjective best fits the like of Joselu?
godfuckingawful
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:39:07 PM
Ridiculing the method, not the player. We go for poor quality players, there's no getting away from that. If they end up being decent it's through luck not design.

Poor seems like a tad exaggerated, they're both internationals. If that's poor what adjective best fits the like of Joselu?

Poor - as in he's a player we went for. :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:39:58 PM
No idea why he's getting such a massively negative reaction like. Few years ago a player like him would be welcomed, Schar too. Now it's people ridiculing them before they've even kicked a ball.

Eventually when you are fed enough bullshit you stop you stop caring and no matter what no signing will be recieved positively.

I'm personally there, I couldn't care less who is signed.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Hhtoon on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 10:57:06 PM
No idea why he's getting such a massively negative reaction like. Few years ago a player like him would be welcomed, Schar too. Now it's people ridiculing them before they've even kicked a ball.

To be fair there's only a couple of people foaming at the mouth about it and they're doing that about anything in every thread. Everyone else is digging at the methods which are undeniably pretty grim.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: sugoinufc on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 11:26:12 PM

Seems to be gathering pace, this one.
Kyodo news is reliable. Always wanted us to sign a Japanese player (lived there for 10 years and have a Japanese wife) although know very little about Muto.

Studied japanese and lived there as well...so i pretty much feels the same. Muto seems cool...but not sure how he can improve us? Like his style of play and do not want to see joselu or a tank forward like rondon.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 25 July 2018, 11:30:09 PM
Before we get too excited. Joselu has a better goal record in German football than this guy...

No he doesn't, unless you mean he just played more games in Germany..  Both records of goals per minute are quite similar, but Muto's is a bit better.

Anyway Joselu's record in Germany was pretty good, and the league is hardly poor.  Which makes you wonder what happened to him since 2014 ???
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:35:22 AM
Kaka been on to tell us we’ll be surprised just how good this lad will be?

Looking forward to how silly so many of you are going to look tbh.

Where did Burnley finish in the league last year again?

While The likes of Stoke, Southampton and Everton where buying and buying all the fancy 'names'.

We will see.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Stottie on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:36:20 AM
It sounds like he would (also) work as cover for Perez at #10. Osako played well as Japan's main striker at the World Cup, so there's no shame in him getting a limited look in there.

After Gayle and Joselu, the first thing I would be looking at is the ability to put his foot through the ball. Neither of them shoots with any conviction.

Selfish reasons here, but only two PL games a week are shown live on Japanese tv now, it used to be five, so its good for toon fans in Japan. Leicester get chosen a fair bit because of Okazaki.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Bellars on Thursday 26 July 2018, 03:00:49 AM
Anyone think marketability in Japan could have something to do with this transfer?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 26 July 2018, 03:26:16 AM
Not really
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:12:32 AM
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2018/07/f98bb50a6374-soccer-muto-on-verge-of-sealing-newcastle-deal-source.html

As he looks ahead to a potential move to England before the close of the transfer window, Muto said, "My goal is to net 10 goals, a number I haven't reached during a season (overseas)."

He's the striker Newcastle DESERVES, but not the one it NEEDS right now.   

Provided we actually bring in another striker capable of 15-20 goals I am happy with Muto. Has pace and works hard. Will be a like replacement for Gayle.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: geordiedean on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:33:24 AM
15 to 20 goal strikers cost over 20m

No chance we ever get one of them let's be content with a fella that's never scored 10 FFS

Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:17:39 AM
It sounds like he would (also) work as cover for Perez at #10. Osako played well as Japan's main striker at the World Cup, so there's no shame in him getting a limited look in there.

After Gayle and Joselu, the first thing I would be looking at is the ability to put his foot through the ball. Neither of them shoots with any conviction.

Selfish reasons here, but only two PL games a week are shown live on Japanese tv now, it used to be five, so its good for toon fans in Japan. Leicester get chosen a fair bit because of Okazaki.

The big problem with that of course, is that it is Perez who should be cover as #10 for someone who is actually good enough to perform consistently in the Premier league. Nothing against Mutu, but as a signing, it has all the hallmarks of settling for someone who isn't really Rafa's first choice for the position. Needless to say, I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Hhtoon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:21:48 AM
15 to 20 goal strikers cost over 20m

No chance we ever get one of them let's be content with a fella that's never scored 10 FFS

A bit more than 20m. 7 players hit over 15 goals from 5 different teams....Vardy and Lukaku from outside the top 4.
10 goals would be a good return for a first season, hopefully Rafa can get him in a system that enables that.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Altamullan on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:26:30 AM
If he’s never done it before, seems massively unlikely he is going to achieve it in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: LRD on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:36:48 AM
Feel he's coming in as competition for Ayoze and as another option on the left rather than being the main man.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:49:56 AM
I think that would be good business by Rafa considering how much he's restricted.

Everyone knows that football is much more complicated that analysis of man versus man. I think Rafa has done well to maintain the quality of the squad and perhaps he's confident that they'll actually improve it. Considering he's better placed to judge, I think we can rest a little bit easier, surely? I mean if this was the business done by Pardew, we'd have a good reason to panic, yes! But no, they were picked by a much better manager than the likes of Pardew.

It has nothing to do with Rafa and to be honest has nothing to do with him keeping us up or doing well, it's about the absolute c*** of an owner we have hamstringing us.

I'm not panicking, I'm almost past caring about what happens as it inevitably looks like whether we stay up or not, Rafa is away at the end of the season and the best chance we've ever had since Bobby to "wake the sleeping giant", win a trophy, or do anything which makes us love and feel proud of our club is gone.

Yeah, of course we should have done better, no one is denying that. But this doesn't mean that we necessarily have gone backwards.

I'm too resigned to Rafa leaving, but this doesn't mean that I don't want things to carry on business as usual as much as possible. Though if we go down this season, and that Rafa was leaving anyway, it wouldn't be the worse news in the world!

But why is not going backwards being seen as something we can be remotely happy with? We haven't went forward, Ashley has continued to pocket all the money from broadcasting, merchandise, gates etc. not to mention the advertising of his f***ing tat everywhere.

If Rafa is leaving regardless, I couldn't give a f*** if we go down - it might actually be the straw that breaks the camels back both for him and the fans.


I never implied that. I was looking it at it with some degree of objectivity. (ie, there is no evidence, when it comes to directly comparing our Ins and Outs, that we've actually downgraded. Apart from maybe Merino, but he didn't really play a big part in the team's improvement towards the end of last season)

Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Zero on Thursday 26 July 2018, 07:04:22 AM
Feel he's coming in as competition for Ayoze and as another option on the left rather than being the main man.

Correct
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: AY on Thursday 26 July 2018, 07:54:06 AM
Ridiculing the method, not the player. We go for poor quality players, there's no getting away from that. If they end up being decent it's through luck not design.

Poor seems like a tad exaggerated, they're both internationals. If that's poor what adjective best fits the like of Joselu?

Poor - as in he's a player we went for. :lol:

Then who are the players people would be happy for? Any names?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Thursday 26 July 2018, 07:56:15 AM
?s=21
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: STM on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:24:44 AM
I wish I could enjoy transfers.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Pip on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:27:54 AM
I’m positive about this. Young, has pace, looks like he works hard. Will fit into the team. The PL is a league of pacy players anyway and our team really suffered without it last year. Having an outlet ball is huge for the way Benitez wants to play. I think he’ll be a good addition based on some Wise scouting.
Title: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Pip on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:28:50 AM
I’m just glad we haven’t gone for the big club hasbeen cast offs. Give me a random foreigner over an experienced PL player making a step down any day of the week. Plus this dude is young.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Pip on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:29:59 AM
It sounds like he would (also) work as cover for Perez at #10. Osako played well as Japan's main striker at the World Cup, so there's no shame in him getting a limited look in there.

After Gayle and Joselu, the first thing I would be looking at is the ability to put his foot through the ball. Neither of them shoots with any conviction.

Selfish reasons here, but only two PL games a week are shown live on Japanese tv now, it used to be five, so its good for toon fans in Japan. Leicester get chosen a fair bit because of Okazaki.

The big problem with that of course, is that it is Perez who should be cover as #10 for someone who is actually good enough to perform consistently in the Premier league. Nothing against Mutu, but as a signing, it has all the hallmarks of settling for someone who isn't really Rafa's first choice for the position. Needless to say, I hope I'm wrong.

Clearly this is not Rafa’s first choice but it doesn’t mean that he won’t start ahead of Perez.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:31:58 AM
He's 26 so he's not that young
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Gorilla on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:32:12 AM
Perez was blinding at the end of last season. I think he will start with Perez initially.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: gdm on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:03:03 AM
I don’t hate the signing I just hate that he’s probably way down Rafa’s list
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:03:42 AM
*off to resurrect Pokemon thread*
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: ShearMagic on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:25:52 AM
Korean & Japanese players this window. Commercial benefits for Fat Mike definitely outweigh the 'cost'.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:29:16 AM
Korean & Japanese players this window. Commercial benefits for Fat Mike definitely outweigh the 'cost'.

Did cross my mind like. Never had a single Korean/Japanese player, now two in one window? It's not like we've even sold one to accommodate Muto.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:47:26 AM
I'm pretty sure that's a coincidence guys.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: BeloEmre on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:59:18 AM
Keith Downie says fee agreed, on his way to UK.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:00:22 AM
Keith Downie says fee agreed, on his way to UK.
Happy with this one. Hope we sign another forward though.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:04:54 AM
£9.5m - now on SSN yellow bar.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Roids on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:10:48 AM
Does anyone know anything about this lad (outside of YouTube :/ )
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:13:34 AM
By the looks of Youtube appears to be no better than Gayle or Mitro in the finishing department.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: STM on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:14:31 AM
By the looks of Youtube appears to be no better than Gayle or Mitro in the finishing department.

By all accounts he's being signed for his industry.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:14:41 AM
He’s a handsome bugger, like.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:15:39 AM
Hopefully he’ll help to ramp those shirt sales in Asia up even further. :thup:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Muto
Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:23:05 AM
It sounds like he would (also) work as cover for Perez at #10. Osako played well as Japan's main striker at the World Cup, so there's no shame in him getting a limited look in there.

After Gayle and Joselu, the first thing I would be looking at is the ability to put his foot through the ball. Neither of them shoots with any conviction.

Selfish reasons here, but only two PL games a week are shown live on Japanese tv now, it used to be five, so its good for toon fans in Japan. Leicester get chosen a fair bit because of Okazaki.

The big problem with that of course, is that it is Perez who should be cover as #10 for someone who is actually good enough to perform consistently in the Premier league. Nothing against Mutu, but as a signing, it has all the hallmarks of settling for someone who isn't really Rafa's first choice for the position. Needless to say, I hope I'm wrong.

Clearly this is not Rafa’s first choice but it doesn’t mean that he won’t start ahead of Perez.

As long as Rafa is happy with the signing, so am I. I just don't want it to be another Joselu where he says you have to pay £5m for someone who can kick a ball.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:25:22 AM
He’s a handsome bugger, like.

So is Schar. Even if we end up in a relegation struggle, it shoud shoot us op the league in the Premier dreamboat rankings.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: STM on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:26:02 AM
Can't wait for the, "That should please Newcastle fans, who are upset at their transfer dealings so far."

This should take our bet spend to a whopping 6m or so.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: STM on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:26:44 AM
He’s a handsome bugger, like.

So is Schar. Even if we end up in a relegation struggle, it shoud shoot us op the league in the Premier dreamboat rankings.

Will be our first double, along with the balance sheet trophy.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:31:42 AM
By the sounds of it I don't think he's going to be the main striker, that'll probably be Rondon if he comes. Think Muto will play like a number 10. Happy with the signing at least, if not somewhat underwhelmed.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Zero on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:31:56 AM
I think I can give some info:

1. He is young
It's correct.  He just started his professional career at the age of 21 which is normal for players from Japan. Although he is 26 this is only his 6th season as a pro.  He is young.

2.  He is quick
Correct but he isn't as quick as Bellamy. Please also note that he suffered ACL 2 years ago and his right knee is a concern.

3.  He is talented
I can't provide much proofs on this but 3 years ago Chelsea approached him and got turned down because he wanted to learn his trade in Bundesliga and thus chose Mainz instead.


It is a good gamble imo.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: junkhead on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:33:09 AM
The project owner on the thing I'm working at now is a big Mainz fan. I'm having a conference call with him in 30 minutes. Will try to get a detailed scouting report.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Aiston on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:34:11 AM
Someone call in Godzilla.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Village Idiot on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:35:35 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:36:00 AM
£9.5m for a 26 yr old is the equivalent of £40m for most normal clubs. I'm hoping that means he's worth a lot more potentially, otherwise I can't see our lot spending that much on a gamble.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Zero on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:36:52 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:37:11 AM
Well he can kick the ball £4.5m further forward than Joselu, so it's progress i suppose.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Cookie1892 on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:37:22 AM
Yo yo yoshinori

to the tune of 7 nation army...
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:37:39 AM
I think I can give some info:

1. He is young
It's correct.  He just started his professional career at the age of 21 which is normal for players from Japan. Although he is 26 this is only his 6th season as a pro.  He is young.

2.  He is quick
Correct but he isn't as quick as Bellamy. Please also note that he suffered ACL 2 years ago and his right knee is a concern.

3.  He is talented
I can't provide much proofs on this but 3 years ago Chelsea approached him and got turned down because he wanted to learn his trade in Bundesliga and thus chose Mainz instead.


It is a good gamble imo.

Means nowt, he'd have signed and then plyed his trade at Vitesse, then the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:38:04 AM
Yo yo yoshinori

to the tune of 7 nation army...

no
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Cookie1892 on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:38:06 AM
we will also sell loads of sports direct tat in Japan now
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Cookie1892 on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:38:57 AM
Yo yo yoshinori

to the tune of 7 nation army...

no

Its Yo not No

didnt you read it properly man woman man you
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Village Idiot on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:39:38 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page who have him as a striker. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Kasper on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:40:26 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Isn't he? Seems to have played upfront for Mainz.

Either as a center forward in 433 or center forward in 442.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Cookie1892 on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:40:50 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Have we timewarped back to the 50's?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: dabe on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:42:06 AM
I am optimistic. He can create depth and space, which you'd hope Shelvey and Ki would strive on with long through balls.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: triggs on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:42:16 AM


£9.5m for a 26 yr old is the equivalent of £40m for most normal clubs. I'm hoping that means he's worth a lot more potentially, otherwise I can't see our lot spending that much on a gamble.

Of course it's a gamble, most signings are. We've spent more on gambles before
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Village Idiot on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:42:31 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Have we timewarped back to the 50's?

I just never know what to call in English a forward that plays on the left or right of the attack, what we call an "extremo".  :lol:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Zero on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:42:50 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Yea basically like that, just like Ayoze, a No.10. Of course you can stick him to play upfront but his natural position is a wide / second striker.

A good signing imo. We badly need someone to play No.10 when Ayoze is in bad form.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: LRD on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:43:34 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Have we timewarped back to the 50's?

I just never know what to call in English a forward that plays on the left or right of the attack, what we call an "extremo".  :lol:

Inside forward?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:43:54 AM
He better not be our only new striker. Then again, if it's both him and Rondon :anguish:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: sbnufc on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:45:15 AM
Whoscored and Transfermarkt (in particular) are most reliable about a player

(https://i.imgur.com/2hyLu90.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/u0frO3D.png)

He's a striker, like
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: dabe on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:46:53 AM
He's a forward, he can play anywhere up front, more flexible than Ayoze.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Village Idiot on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:47:20 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Yea basically like that, just like Ayoze, a No.10. Of course you can stick him to play upfront but his natural position is a wide / second striker.

A good signing imo. We badly need someone to play No.10 when Ayoze is in bad form.

Call me nitpicker, but I think we need someone that improves on the dudes that play badly no matter their form!

I just want to look at NUFC's squad and be able to say "yeah, this guy will do 10+ a season". Not 15, just 10...
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:47:29 AM
He's travelling from Japan or Mainz?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Village Idiot on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:48:06 AM
Oh f***, I said "we" again.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: LRD on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:48:51 AM
He's travelling from Japan or Mainz?

Japan.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:52:26 AM
I like the idea of having two players like Perez and Muto together. When Perez had Cabella with him when he first game in they played a lot of lovely one two's off each other before Pardew decided that was far too attacking and brought back Gouffran. I think they'll link up nicely as they both have clever movement.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Zero on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:59:21 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Yea basically like that, just like Ayoze, a No.10. Of course you can stick him to play upfront but his natural position is a wide / second striker.

A good signing imo. We badly need someone to play No.10 when Ayoze is in bad form.

Call me nitpicker, but I think we need someone that improves on the dudes that play badly no matter their form!

I just want to look at NUFC's squad and be able to say "yeah, this guy will do 10+ a season". Not 15, just 10...

I understand your point, I just think when Ayoze is in form he is our best player, so it is a bit harsh to hope someone cost under 10m could already be our best player lol

Like Ayoze, Muto can play striker when needed, but he is definitely not the "striker" type we want to lead the line.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:02:21 AM
Will prove to be a useful signing as an adaptable forward I reckon.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:10:05 AM
Has nobody checked the planes destination?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:10:42 AM
We've needed an athletic competitive forward player that can perform that second striker role, as competition to Perez at the very least. I still expect us to bring in Rondon on loan as the one to lead the line.

That would be an improvement on what we had last year, tbh. Rondon has shown in the past, in La Liga, that he can bag a decent number of goals if in the right set up.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: M1tche on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:29:32 AM
Maybe Rafa thinks he can do a similar role to what Dirk Kuyt did for him at Liverpool
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:29:36 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Yea basically like that, just like Ayoze, a No.10. Of course you can stick him to play upfront but his natural position is a wide / second striker.

A good signing imo. We badly need someone to play No.10 when Ayoze is in bad form.

I also think Perez isn't really suited to the #10 role how Rafa envisions it, normally it needs a lot of pulling out wide, and Perez doesn't really have the pace to exploit that properly. Maybe Mutu will offer more in that dept.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:37:04 AM
I really really hope he's good.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: arnonel on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:43:14 AM
Cult hero in the making
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:48:24 AM
The fat c*** wanted to promote his s*** business in Asia and it has taken him 12 years to sign a player from that region. Says it all.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:54:10 AM
Ridiculing the method, not the player. We go for poor quality players, there's no getting away from that. If they end up being decent it's through luck not design.

Poor seems like a tad exaggerated, they're both internationals. If that's poor what adjective best fits the like of Joselu?

Poor - as in he's a player we went for. :lol:

Then who are the players people would be happy for? Any names?

Whichever names are on Rafa's preferred list, rather than the ones on his 3rd or 4th list. 
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Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:56:12 AM
Scoring record isn't particularly awe-inspiring for a striker, and he's moving to a higher level now. :dontknow:

Ah well, always had a soft spot for Japanese players, I was a huge Captain Tsubasa fan as a kid.

He is not a striker.

Fair enough, all my knowledge on him comes from his whoscored page. Is he an outside forward? A second striker?

Yea basically like that, just like Ayoze, a No.10. Of course you can stick him to play upfront but his natural position is a wide / second striker.

A good signing imo. We badly need someone to play No.10 when Ayoze is in bad form.

Call me nitpicker, but I think we need someone that improves on the dudes that play badly no matter their form!

I just want to look at NUFC's squad and be able to say "yeah, this guy will do 10+ a season". Not 15, just 10...

I understand your point, I just think when Ayoze is in form he is our best player, so it is a bit harsh to hope someone cost under 10m could already be our best player lol

Like Ayoze, Muto can play striker when needed, but he is definitely not the "striker" type we want to lead the line.

Yup, close to it at least.

I'm wondering if Rafa is thinking of having Ayoze and Muto both playing as "second strikers". There were times last season when that's where Ayoze played as opposed to a #10, and it might suit Rafa's pressing style to have two players of that type harrying the defence.

The question is, of course, would they score enough goals?
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from:  Steve Cram
Eeyer marra, Mewto is proper forrin s****. Wey've got reeyal British pleyers like Dylan McGewch.
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Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:26:08 PM
:lol: Mewtwo. I can't believe I missed that!
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Post by: KaKa on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:37:46 PM
Okazaki at Leicester has proved to be a fantastic support striker that really helps get the best out of Vardy. So much so that he has managed to fight off £25m Iheanacho so far.

Hoping Muto can bring similar type of qualities with more threat going forward.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: junkhead on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:38:57 PM
OK, so I had a cracking conversation with my Mainz-supporting PM about Muto.. It's fair to say he loves him - it was like he was describing his son. Apparently he's a very clever, humble, brave and hardworking lad. My boss even referred to him as the "golden son/sun" whatever the f*** this means :lol: He talked several minutes about his character and personality before I interrupted him to ask about his actual footballing qualities.

Muto has adapted very quickly to the German league and even spoke understandable German in his first few months there, until he made some mistake in an interview, which resulted in the media making a bit of fun of him. From then on he only did interviews with an interpreter, cause "he didn't want to offend the fans with his broken German". Also said that he had a bad knee injury two years ago and suffered a re-occurrence after preseason, causing him to miss nearly an year. Despite that he has returned as fit and athletic as ever and hasn't had any injury problems since.

Football-wise Muto is more of a support striker than a target man. Despite that he has almost exclusively led the line for Mainz as a lone striker "cause they had nobody better at that role". He runs the channels and often looks for space on the wings. He's not tall but very athletic and surprisingly strong in aerial duels. His best attributes are his athleticism, agility, work rate and clever off the ball movement.

All in all, very encouraging report :lol: Seems like the lad can fit in great at the Ayoze position or even leading the line in a Gayle-sort of way. I guess his pace means that he can be used as a more attacking option on the wings too. Sounds like a perfect Rafa-type attacker.
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Post by: joeyt on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:39:11 PM
Shouldn't have any work permit issues should he?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:44:52 PM
Yoshi on the plane like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX1a3JngmpI
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:44:55 PM
:lol: Mewtwo. I can't believe I missed that!

Dying to see Rafa sub him via pokeball

A wild Muto appears!
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:53:42 PM
OK, so I had a cracking conversation with my Mainz-supporting PM about Muto.. It's fair to say he loves him - it was like he was describing his son. Apparently he's a very clever, humble, brave and hardworking lad. My boss even referred to him as the "golden son/sun" whatever the f*** this means :lol: He talked several minutes about his character and personality before I interrupted him to ask about his actual footballing qualities.

Muto has adapted very quickly to the German league and even spoke understandable German in his first few months there, until he made some mistake in an interview, which resulted in the media making a bit of fun of him. From then on he only did interviews with an interpreter, cause "he didn't want to offend the fans with his broken German". Also said that he had a bad knee injury two years ago and suffered a re-occurrence after preseason, causing him to miss nearly an year. Despite that he has returned as fit and athletic as ever and hasn't had any injury problems since.

Football-wise Muto is more of a support striker than a target man. Despite that he has almost exclusively led the line for Mainz as a lone striker "cause they had nobody better at that role". He runs the channels and often looks for space on the wings. He's not tall but very athletic and surprisingly strong in aerial duels. His best attributes are his athleticism, agility, work rate and clever off the ball movement.

All in all, very encouraging report :lol: Seems like the lad can fit in great at the Ayoze position or even leading the line in a Gayle-sort of way. I guess his pace means that he can be used as a more attacking option on the wings too. Sounds like a perfect Rafa-type attacker.

What did he say that was misinterpreted?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Kasper on Thursday 26 July 2018, 12:58:37 PM


What did he say that was misinterpreted?

Sieg heil
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:00:39 PM
OK, so I had a cracking conversation with my Mainz-supporting PM about Muto.. It's fair to say he loves him - it was like he was describing his son. Apparently he's a very clever, humble, brave and hardworking lad. My boss even referred to him as the "golden son/sun" whatever the f*** this means :lol: He talked several minutes about his character and personality before I interrupted him to ask about his actual footballing qualities.

Muto has adapted very quickly to the German league and even spoke understandable German in his first few months there, until he made some mistake in an interview, which resulted in the media making a bit of fun of him. From then on he only did interviews with an interpreter, cause "he didn't want to offend the fans with his broken German". Also said that he had a bad knee injury two years ago and suffered a re-occurrence after preseason, causing him to miss nearly an year. Despite that he has returned as fit and athletic as ever and hasn't had any injury problems since.

Football-wise Muto is more of a support striker than a target man. Despite that he has almost exclusively led the line for Mainz as a lone striker "cause they had nobody better at that role". He runs the channels and often looks for space on the wings. He's not tall but very athletic and surprisingly strong in aerial duels. His best attributes are his athleticism, agility, work rate and clever off the ball movement.

All in all, very encouraging report :lol: Seems like the lad can fit in great at the Ayoze position or even leading the line in a Gayle-sort of way. I guess his pace means that he can be used as a more attacking option on the wings too. Sounds like a perfect Rafa-type attacker.

What did he say that was misinterpreted?

(https://i.gifer.com/5c7W.gif)
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: junkhead on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:04:47 PM
...

What did he say that was misinterpreted?

I don't know :) My colleague's English isn't the best so it's possible that I've misinterpreted that bit. He was saying it as an example of how respectful he has been towards the club and the fans.

Forgot to add that he ended our conversation by declaring that he was happy with the 10 million fee, which slightly contradicts everything he told me before :lol:
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Post by: LRD on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:10:57 PM
Forgot to add that he ended our conversation by declaring that he was happy with the 10 million fee, which slightly contradicts everything he told me before :lol:

Signed for 2.5m and in last year of contract.
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Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:17:42 PM
Yeah it's all relative, i imagine Mainz are not exactly flushed with cash either.
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Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:18:01 PM

 :sweetjesus:
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Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:49:26 PM

 :sweetjesus:

:lol:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: BrickTop on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:56:06 PM
Did he feature much at the World Cup? I've got him as 1 start and 1 sub at a glance...
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Altamullan on Thursday 26 July 2018, 01:59:36 PM


What did he say that was misinterpreted?

Sieg heil
:lol: (deserves some appreciation)
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: TK-421 on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:01:39 PM

 :sweetjesus:

Better than Joselu then.
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Post by: Chicane on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:02:47 PM
Hello Muto.
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Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:07:57 PM

 :sweetjesus:

Better than Joselu then.

And Gayle, more importantly.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:10:55 PM
Like I said last week, £40-50m gets you a 12 plus goal a season man. Anyone else is in the 6-9 bracket but could potentially score more if the team plays well. If him and/or Rondon manage that then we’ve upgraded.
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Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:13:28 PM


What did he say that was misinterpreted?

Sieg heil

 :lol: Simple but effective.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: LRD on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:23:33 PM
'Physical, intelligent and quick' - Former bosses on Yoshinori Muto as Newcastle agree fee
Everything you need to know about Japanese striker Yoshinori Muto


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ByAndrew Musgrove
11:53, 26 JUL 2018UPDATED12:27, 26 JUL 2018
SPORT

Rafa Benitez is on the search for a new striker and the Magpies have now made their move for the 26-year-old, while West Brom’s Salomon Rondon is also high on the list for the United manager.

With two weeks to go until the transfer window closes, the Magpies look set to add the Japanese forward to their squad ahead of the Premier League campaign.

Here’s all you need to know about Yoshinori Muto.

The basic information about Yoshinori Muto
He’s 26 and plays as a striker for Mainz. He featured at the World Cup this summer for Japan appearing once in the competition.

How did last season go for Muto?
He featured 30 times for Mainz in all competitions - 27 in the league as the German side battled against relegation. In the end Mainz finished three points above the drop zone - a position they had occupied until five weeks before the season finished. He was the club’s top scorer in the league with eight goals - netting a further three in the cup.

His career before Mainz
He arrived in Germany from FC Tokyo in May 2015 on a four-year contract - meaning he’ll be out of contract next summer. He hit 23 goals in 51 games for FC Tokyo before his move to Mainz. He hit seven goals in his debut season in the Bundesliga and a further five the season after.

What do they say about him?
Ranko Popovic was the manager who gave Muto his chance at FC Tokyo in July 2013 and he spoke about the striker.

“His potential was amazing, I didn’t see for a long time such an intelligent player like Muto. He’s a different guy, he’s not such a usual player. Muto is something like a noble. He has something different to all other players because he comes from a good family, he has good education, he was at university. A very smart, intelligent guy. He has something which you cannot learn.”

What about his style of play?
Popovic focused on one thing - Muto’s speed.

“He was so fast. So speedy and so strong. And also so confident. He has a lot of confidence. In our training games, Muto always had chances. Amazing. He had 10 or 12 chances in every game.”

Previous Mainz head coach Martin Schmidt spoke about Muto’s efforts on the pitch on his Bundesliga debut back in 2015, noting his running and ability to defend from the front.

“He’s not a striker that stands still and waits for the ball. Yoshi, with his engine and his passion, did what [Shinji] Okazaki was doing for us before he left,” he told the club’s official website. “I was delighted with his performance. He was relentless in irritating and pressuring the opposition, and, in a way, was our first line of defence, perhaps even the most important. By working so hard, he took a lot of pressure off our defenders.”

Could he cut it in the Premier League?
Popovic in 2015 told Bleacher Report that Muto would be ‘refreshing’ in England’s top flight - this was at the time the striker was linked to Chelsea.

“[If he goes] I’m 100 per cent sure Muto can be refreshing for the Premier League,” he said. “This is a big thing for Japan, for Japanese football, for Muto. But please don’t take all the responsibility for all Japan now on your back. You are going there only to play football. Do things your way, and all Japan will be proud of you.”

Goalkeeper Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi also added his thoughts: “He is physical and has the ability to finish off chances, as well as being able to work shooting opportunities for himself. I think he would suit the English style.”

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-yoshinori-muto-profile-14954758
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Post by: Menace on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:40:51 PM
Sounds like Okazaki...
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Post by: geordiedean on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:49:41 PM
10 or 12 chances every game yet has never scored 10 goals a season....eek
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Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:55:21 PM
'Physical, intelligent and quick' - Former bosses on Yoshinori Muto as Newcastle agree fee
Everything you need to know about Japanese striker Yoshinori Muto


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ByAndrew Musgrove
11:53, 26 JUL 2018UPDATED12:27, 26 JUL 2018
SPORT

Rafa Benitez is on the search for a new striker and the Magpies have now made their move for the 26-year-old, while West Brom’s Salomon Rondon is also high on the list for the United manager.

With two weeks to go until the transfer window closes, the Magpies look set to add the Japanese forward to their squad ahead of the Premier League campaign.

Here’s all you need to know about Yoshinori Muto.

The basic information about Yoshinori Muto
He’s 26 and plays as a striker for Mainz. He featured at the World Cup this summer for Japan appearing once in the competition.

How did last season go for Muto?
He featured 30 times for Mainz in all competitions - 27 in the league as the German side battled against relegation. In the end Mainz finished three points above the drop zone - a position they had occupied until five weeks before the season finished. He was the club’s top scorer in the league with eight goals - netting a further three in the cup.

His career before Mainz
He arrived in Germany from FC Tokyo in May 2015 on a four-year contract - meaning he’ll be out of contract next summer. He hit 23 goals in 51 games for FC Tokyo before his move to Mainz. He hit seven goals in his debut season in the Bundesliga and a further five the season after.

What do they say about him?
Ranko Popovic was the manager who gave Muto his chance at FC Tokyo in July 2013 and he spoke about the striker.

“His potential was amazing, I didn’t see for a long time such an intelligent player like Muto. He’s a different guy, he’s not such a usual player. Muto is something like a noble. He has something different to all other players because he comes from a good family, he has good education, he was at university. A very smart, intelligent guy. He has something which you cannot learn.”

What about his style of play?
Popovic focused on one thing - Muto’s speed.

“He was so fast. So speedy and so strong. And also so confident. He has a lot of confidence. In our training games, Muto always had chances. Amazing. He had 10 or 12 chances in every game.”

Previous Mainz head coach Martin Schmidt spoke about Muto’s efforts on the pitch on his Bundesliga debut back in 2015, noting his running and ability to defend from the front.

“He’s not a striker that stands still and waits for the ball. Yoshi, with his engine and his passion, did what [Shinji] Okazaki was doing for us before he left,” he told the club’s official website. “I was delighted with his performance. He was relentless in irritating and pressuring the opposition, and, in a way, was our first line of defence, perhaps even the most important. By working so hard, he took a lot of pressure off our defenders.”

Could he cut it in the Premier League?
Popovic in 2015 told Bleacher Report that Muto would be ‘refreshing’ in England’s top flight - this was at the time the striker was linked to Chelsea.

“[If he goes] I’m 100 per cent sure Muto can be refreshing for the Premier League,” he said. “This is a big thing for Japan, for Japanese football, for Muto. But please don’t take all the responsibility for all Japan now on your back. You are going there only to play football. Do things your way, and all Japan will be proud of you.”

Goalkeeper Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi also added his thoughts: “He is physical and has the ability to finish off chances, as well as being able to work shooting opportunities for himself. I think he would suit the English style.”

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-yoshinori-muto-profile-14954758

Sounds like an identikit Rafa forward..
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Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:55:23 PM

 :sweetjesus:

:lol:

Tbf, I saw a journalist's Tweet yesterday that said he could be a really decent purchase. Nobody really knows.

It all depends on why he's been brought in - I'm hoping for a Bellamy-esque player that can open up gaps for our midfielders (who need to pitch in more this year), and provide a better counter option on the break.
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Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:55:48 PM
I have no idea whether he'll be a success, so hopefully he surprises us, but it certainly seems like another try-hard striker with minimal ability to actually score. I see that Rafa wants a striker who works hard/brings others into play, but I'm going to go wild and guess that this fella wasn't exactly his #1 pick. Another depth option when we don't even have a worthy starting XI.
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:56:25 PM
Rafa’s main requirement is someone who’s always moving and running channels, so you can see why he’s been signed.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 26 July 2018, 02:57:51 PM
10 or 12 chances every game yet has never scored 10 goals a season....eek
He scored 10 goals a season in Japan, which is what that quote is referring to
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 03:00:35 PM
Rafa’s main requirement is someone who’s always moving and running channels, so you can see why he’s been signed.

Bellamy's goals record was also questioned when we signed him but Bobby insisted on getting him because his pace and movement transformed the entire side. Let's hope it turns out like that, although Bellamy cost £6m back then when the transfer fees were probably a small percentage of what they are now, which tells you everything about our spending these days.
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Post by: Dave on Thursday 26 July 2018, 03:06:33 PM
When we signed Bellamy we already had Shearer.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 26 July 2018, 03:09:21 PM
Sounds like Okazaki...

Be the accent mate
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: SSFC on Thursday 26 July 2018, 03:17:11 PM
His fee, for a striker, is pretty much nothing and we know what the status quo looks like with the side. We needed 2 strikers (well we dont personnel wise but lets be honest) and we shall see who the other one is. If selling Mbemba for Schar allowed a little bit of extra money (plus other sales potentially) to get Muto instead of Joselu, why not.

Now at the end of the window if we are sitting here with Muto, Joselu, and Gayle then I will not be pleased so let this play out.

This is all in the reality of this turd sandwich situation where we see teams spending and were making a profit on roster fodder, I wish the reality of the situation was different.
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Post by: STM on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:04:01 PM
Confirmed by Mainz
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Post by: Paully on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:05:27 PM
?s=21
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Post by: Elric on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:06:57 PM
In b4 NPWankery deal collapse :lol:
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Post by: Ian W on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:11:38 PM

Unlike Ryder to tweet without rubbishing a deal.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:13:18 PM
?s=19

Dat English
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Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:17:43 PM
Doesn't sound very confirmed to me. Sounds like the type of thing that we'll hardball over trying to make perfect for us and collapse it over
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Stal on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:18:31 PM
?s=19

Dat English

I hate to defend Ryder like, but has he not just ran that through a translator?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Rich on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:19:38 PM
?s=19

Dat English

I hate to defend Ryder like, but has he not just ran that through a translator?

Well aye, but as a journalist you'd think he might try to tidy it up a bit :lol:
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Post by: joeyt on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:20:39 PM
He probably has but surely as a journalist you need to proof read it so it makes sense
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Disco on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:48:36 PM
Wonder if he'll make Ki his little Korean bitch?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:55:15 PM
Goes without saying Japan is better than Korea.

Just like it goes without saying that Denmark is better than Norway and Sweden
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Post by: DJ_NUFC on Thursday 26 July 2018, 04:56:24 PM
He'll always be one of my all time favourite characters from modern Japanese cinema.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQI7mt8g7ZYCpq8KIFihah0nCwD9u-MKftQu1Fv47EeUm3ajFt)
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Post by: TRon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 05:00:22 PM
When we signed Bellamy we already had Shearer.

Even assuming we go for Rondon, obviously we have to accept that these aren't first choice targets, so expectations aren't going to be Shearer/Bellamy standards, it will be an inferior version.
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Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 26 July 2018, 05:00:26 PM
He'll always be one of my all time favourite characters from modern Japanese cinema.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQI7mt8g7ZYCpq8KIFihah0nCwD9u-MKftQu1Fv47EeUm3ajFt)

Too many to chose from
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Post by: ponsaelius on Thursday 26 July 2018, 05:13:29 PM
Goes without saying Japan is better than Korea.

Goes without saying that you're wrong
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 26 July 2018, 05:14:35 PM
Shameless attempt to try and wind up the Scandos
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: khay on Thursday 26 July 2018, 05:42:45 PM
Plane landed yet? 3pm press conference tomorrow?
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Thursday 26 July 2018, 05:49:36 PM
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Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 26 July 2018, 05:56:17 PM

Oh, poor, naive Mainz. Never count your NUFC deals until the fax ink is dry.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: dabe on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Looking at his season by season Games/Goals, he's done pretty well sans a knee injury hit season in 16/17...(20(7), 19(5) and 27(8) for Mainz).

Also think most (not all; see Cockback) players improve under good managers...we have Rafa.
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Post by: oldtype on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:28:18 PM
NUFC signs Korean player :megusta:

NUFC signs Japanese player :scared:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:29:25 PM
Japan is best Korea.
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Post by: thomas on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:29:27 PM
That _is_ an interesting fact.
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Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:30:16 PM
I'm just amazed at the sheer genius of Gianfranco Shola.
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Post by: Sima on Thursday 26 July 2018, 06:36:44 PM
I'm just amazed at the sheer genius of Gianfranco Shola.

:lol:

It's incredible.
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Post by: TheInfiniteOdyssey on Thursday 26 July 2018, 07:51:17 PM
Little compilation here.

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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 26 July 2018, 07:56:32 PM
Some of the goals remind me of Chicharito. A lot of tap-ins.
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Post by: Menace on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:01:14 PM
Looks a nuisance.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:06:38 PM
If he means we sell Gayle he’ll be my favourite ever player.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:16:30 PM
If he means we sell Gayle he’ll be my favourite ever player.

 :lol: This (Soz Dwight)
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: STM on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:17:13 PM
At some point this season this c***s going to score and I'm going to be shouting at the tv "gan on Ki lad," like a right f***ing racist.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:19:17 PM
Two footed and gets a fair few headers, hope he settles in English footy, could be a right bargain.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:21:23 PM
He is one handsome b******, like.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Scoot on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:25:38 PM
He is one handsome b******, like.

We do seem to sign a canny few handsome ones, like (no homo)

Aye, Andy O'Brien was a stunner.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 26 July 2018, 08:26:12 PM
He is one handsome b******, like.

We do seem to sign a canny few handsome ones, like (no homo)

Rafa's shortlist has blatantly got mixed up with his 'lads I wanna shag' list. Hope they're decent players.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:17:36 PM
He is one handsome b******, like.

We do seem to sign a canny few handsome ones, like (no homo)

Aye, Andy O'Brien was a stunner.


nomalo tbh
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: chopey on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:22:43 PM
How lovely, watch a fuckin film on that brow
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 26 July 2018, 09:27:25 PM
I want a doctor, to take a picture, so I can look at him from inside as well.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Altamullan on Thursday 26 July 2018, 10:46:47 PM
... really think so?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Mikky on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:01:49 PM
Just noticed Spurs are losing Son to the Asian games - wonder what the deal with Ki and Muto is?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: LFEE on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:14:03 PM
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Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Ginola on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:15:03 PM
If he means we sell Gayle he’ll be my favourite ever player.

Joselu second choice :sweetjesus:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Willow on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:23:43 PM
I'm just amazed at the sheer genius of Gianfranco Shola.

:lol:

It's incredible.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/877790581002469376/1yhx_zyM_400x400.jpg)
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:25:18 PM
Just noticed Spurs are losing Son to the Asian games - wonder what the deal with Ki and Muto is?
They are like the Olympics, so can only bring 3 players over 23 (or something like that), so don't think either of them will be going.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:32:36 PM
I'm just amazed at the sheer genius of Gianfranco Shola.

:lol:

It's incredible.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/877790581002469376/1yhx_zyM_400x400.jpg)
That’s just Sammy, man.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: LRD on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:54:05 PM
Just noticed Spurs are losing Son to the Asian games - wonder what the deal with Ki and Muto is?
They are like the Olympics, so can only bring 3 players over 23 (or something like that), so don't think either of them will be going.

Neither have been called up. Even if they were, we can refuse yo let them go.

We will likely lose both to the Asian Cup for one month early next year though. Which is why we cannot afford to let Hayden leave.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 26 July 2018, 11:58:22 PM
I'm just amazed at the sheer genius of Gianfranco Shola.

:lol:

It's incredible.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/877790581002469376/1yhx_zyM_400x400.jpg)
That’s just Sammy, man.
It's like a Shola, Sammy, Zola, and a young Fat Sam hybrid.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Teasy on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:39:06 AM
If he means we sell Gayle he’ll be my favourite ever player.

Joselu second choice :sweetjesus:

Because Gayle fixes that problem?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: oldtype on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:56:27 AM
Just noticed Spurs are losing Son to the Asian games - wonder what the deal with Ki and Muto is?
They are like the Olympics, so can only bring 3 players over 23 (or something like that), so don't think either of them will be going.

Neither have been called up. Even if they were, we can refuse yo let them go.

We will likely lose both to the Asian Cup for one month early next year though. Which is why we cannot afford to let Hayden leave.

Suspect Ki will announce his international retirement soonish
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: ennyoueffsea on Friday 27 July 2018, 01:02:09 AM
He is one handsome b******, like.

We do seem to sign a canny few handsome ones, like (no homo)

Aye, Andy O'Brien was a stunner.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180727/f2417159ac479b086cf9dedda885a244.jpg)
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Disco on Friday 27 July 2018, 01:09:57 AM
If he means we sell Gayle he’ll be my favourite ever player.

Such a weird and focussed hatred even for a miserable f***er like you.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: TRon on Friday 27 July 2018, 07:14:02 AM
Some of the goals remind me of Chicharito. A lot of tap-ins.

Looking at the videos, the comparisons with Bellamy look way off, he does look more of a nippy striker around the box like Okazaki.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Zero on Friday 27 July 2018, 07:26:33 AM
Okazaki also played like that in Bundesliga.  Typical Japanese forward.  They may be able to play as a "striker" there but no way they could replicate that in EPL, just like Okazaki would never be able to lead the line.

They are excellent supporting casts behind the main striker though.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: UncleBingo on Friday 27 July 2018, 07:28:55 AM
Some of the goals remind me of Chicharito. A lot of tap-ins.

Looking at the videos, the comparisons with Bellamy look way off, he does look more of a nippy striker around the box like Okazaki.

Racist.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 27 July 2018, 07:45:41 AM
Some of the goals remind me of Chicharito. A lot of tap-ins.

Looking at the videos, the comparisons with Bellamy look way off, he does look more of a nippy striker around the box like Okazaki.

 :kasper:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Gorilla on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:07:12 AM
Mainz have been playing him as their main Striker. In my opinion if he is playing as an SS he'll be more likely to score more than he has at Mainz but he'll also create more space for whichever shitcunt we sign to play as our main Striker.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Lush Vlad on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:28:46 AM
From my extensive 5 minutes of scouting, I love the fact that he seems to be genuinely two footed.  Makes a refreshing change to see a player willing to shift it onto their 'weaker' foot to fashion a chance or to go early on either side to make sure they get a shot off.  I mean, everywhere says he is right footed?  But seemed to score more off his left, yet neither looked particularly unnatural for him. 

Also seemed to steal a lot of goals from other people and very nearly miss some tap ins :lol:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: nufcjb on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:05:04 AM
Were Kagawa and Park Ji-Sung at Manure at the same time? That's the only time recently i remember a Japanese and a Korean at the same club.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: GeordieDazzler on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:09:21 AM
Were Kagawa and Park Ji-Sung at Manure at the same time? That's the only time recently i remember a Japanese and a Korean at the same club.

Nope they just missed each other Park left the summer Kagawa arrived.

I suspect there is a few times in Germany this has happened though.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Greg on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:10:26 AM
Were Kagawa and Park Ji-Sung at Manure at the same time? That's the only time recently i remember a Japanese and a Korean at the same club.

No.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: GeordieDazzler on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:13:04 AM
A quick Google tells me that Ausburg currently have two Koreans and one Japanese player  :thup:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: John P on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:25:06 AM
Why are there so many Asian players in the Bundesliga compared to other European leagues?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: LRD on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:26:48 AM
Less money plus proven record of players from selected Asia markets?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: LRD on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:30:57 AM
The Japanese especially. Think it's also a case of similar ethos between the Germans and Japanese.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto travelling to NUFC to undergo medical
Post by: Ginola on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:39:24 AM
If he means we sell Gayle he’ll be my favourite ever player.

Joselu second choice :sweetjesus:

Because Gayle fixes that problem?

Gayle is a better option than Joselu, so yeah
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Menace on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:50:36 AM
How long's this prick's medical
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: TRon on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:09:43 AM
Okazaki also played like that in Bundesliga.  Typical Japanese forward.  They may be able to play as a "striker" there but no way they could replicate that in EPL, just like Okazaki would never be able to lead the line.

They are excellent supporting casts behind the main striker though.

Well I don't think there's any way we've bought him to play as the main striker, he looks like he'll be the supporting striker like Perez  - although whether he's an improvement on Perez might be debatable.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:10:42 AM
How long's this prick's medical



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Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Disco on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:13:23 AM
Why are there so many Asian players in the Bundesliga compared to other European leagues?

I think it's just a historical thing. The first Koreans/Japanese to go over did really well so other clubs started investigating those markets plus the players are cheap so it's low risk.

Bit like how there used to be loads of Scando's in the PL back in the day.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:17:12 AM
Okazaki also played like that in Bundesliga.  Typical Japanese forward.  They may be able to play as a "striker" there but no way they could replicate that in EPL, just like Okazaki would never be able to lead the line.

They are excellent supporting casts behind the main striker though.

Well I don't think there's any way we've bought him to play as the main striker, he looks like he'll be the supporting striker like Perez  - although whether he's an improvement on Perez might be debatable.
Think we'll play a mixture behind the striker, lot of hard work and movement.

Kenedy, Perez, Murphy, Muto, Ritchie, Atsu, Aarons (if he stays) isn't a bad set of options imo.

If we'd just spend some c***ing money on a legit striker I think we'd have a canny team myself, though some better full back options would be good mind.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:22:52 AM
So why cant he play up front? Is this a typical "He's small so he needs to be number 10" thing?
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: r0cafella on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:24:30 AM
Kenedy aside it’s about what you’d expect from a team fighting for survival.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Sho'Time on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:33:59 AM
So why cant he play up front? Is this a typical "He's small so he needs to be number 10" thing?

Aye, nowt to do with his below-average goalscoring record in a worse league.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:34:50 AM
Sandal wearing goldfish tender.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 27 July 2018, 11:05:02 AM
So why cant he play up front? Is this a typical "He's small so he needs to be number 10" thing?

Aye, nowt to do with his below-average goalscoring record in a worse league.

Joselu's is worse over there but I don't see people suggesting he convert to a number 10.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:08:23 PM
How long's this prick's medical


:kinnear:
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Zero on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:15:40 PM
So why cant he play up front? Is this a typical "He's small so he needs to be number 10" thing?

He can play there just like what Perez did. I don't think that's what you want as a "striker" in EPL though.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Zero on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:16:09 PM
Heard that he is pending work permit to seal the deal.
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Peppe on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:20:06 PM
SEAL! THAT! DEAL!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Ty_Pennington.jpg)
Title: Re: SSN: Yoshinori Muto to undergo NUFC medical
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:36:13 PM
Mutos quick and wants to run in behind defenders doesn't he?  Sounds like gayle replacement more than perez, both could play with latter dropping back and doing the hold up work which he isn't that suited for really but don't see them as that similar from descriptions. 
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Pilko on Friday 27 July 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Sandal wearing goldfish tender.

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 27 July 2018, 02:34:13 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 27 July 2018, 02:36:53 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT1XGWbE0XiBDX2T8Q/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 27 July 2018, 02:50:34 PM
He'll get a discretionary permit, takes a bit of time but he's an international (albeit his lack of game time and the fact japan don't rank that high will count against him) but he is coming from one of the top leagues which is one of the other requirements.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Rich on Friday 27 July 2018, 02:53:21 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:

Eh? Maybe not a guaranteed one, but I’d be amazed if he was rejected altogether.

Coming from a tier one league in Europe, significant transfer fee and will be on good wages.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Greg on Friday 27 July 2018, 02:56:47 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:

Eh? Maybe not a guaranteed one, but I’d be amazed if he was rejected altogether.

Coming from a tier one league in Europe, significant transfer fee and will be on good wages.

Due to Japan's FIFA ranking he needs to have played in 75% of their games in the last two years for it to be straightforward.

Not sure if he has.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: covmag on Friday 27 July 2018, 02:59:30 PM

surely you check these things before you bid ffs
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: joeyt on Friday 27 July 2018, 03:00:19 PM

surely you check these things before you bid ffs
'We tried'
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: dabe on Friday 27 July 2018, 03:02:59 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:

Eh? Maybe not a guaranteed one, but I’d be amazed if he was rejected altogether.

Coming from a tier one league in Europe, significant transfer fee and will be on good wages.

Due to Japan's FIFA ranking he needs to have played in 75% of their games in the last two years for it to be straightforward.

Not sure if he has.

He has not.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Rich on Friday 27 July 2018, 03:05:03 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:

Eh? Maybe not a guaranteed one, but I’d be amazed if he was rejected altogether.

Coming from a tier one league in Europe, significant transfer fee and will be on good wages.

Due to Japan's FIFA ranking he needs to have played in 75% of their games in the last two years for it to be straightforward.

Not sure if he has.

He hasn’t, but for the reasons I mentioned it should still go through discretionary or on appeal.

There’s lots of precedent there, even Kenedy when he originally joined Chelsea. Poorer league, lower fee and probably lower wages.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Rich on Friday 27 July 2018, 03:13:14 PM
https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/8/2/9085083/kenedy-chelsea-work-permit

Decent article on Kenedy's signing there, got a couple of tables in it showing how they break down the "points" in the first and second review stage for a work permit.

He'll possibly qualify based on the first stage, but if not he should definitely get through on the second (as the points are added together and you only need 4).

Stage 1
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Stage 2
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Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Disco on Friday 27 July 2018, 04:20:33 PM
Passed his medical.
Title: Re: Chronicle: Yoshinori Muto agrees terms and passes medical, work permit awaited
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Signed subject to work permit

https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/muto-move-agreed-subject-to-governing-body-endorsement-work-permit
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:19:14 PM
Played against us last year, Rafa obviously must have liked something.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Rich on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:25:39 PM
Don’t know why but I’m tickled pink we’ve got a Japanese and South Korean in the squad.

Excited to see what this guy can do under Rafa.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:26:34 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:
maybe a blessing.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: sempuki on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:27:15 PM
My eldest son will definitely want the new shirt with Muto's name on now. Hope this is another one of Rafa's excellent judgements.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: Rocker on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:27:25 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:
maybe a blessing.


Miserable c***.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: sempuki on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:28:18 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:
maybe a blessing.
Of course he will. Not getting the negativity when we haven't seen him play yet.
Title: Re: Reports: Yoshinori Muto set to join NUFC
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:32:49 PM
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:
maybe a blessing.
Fewmin at the thought of another forrin coming through the door. Brexit means Brexit.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Paully on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:33:04 PM
He must be top of our twitter followers table! 221K!
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:37:26 PM
He must be top of our twitter followers table! 221K!

Yedlin has 378k.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Mr Logic on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:37:44 PM
 :fishing:
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:
maybe a blessing.


Miserable c***.

f***ing convinced he only posts for the :fishing: then sits back like :cumsplatteredovereverything:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Dave on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:43:56 PM
https://www.unibet.co.uk/blog/football/world-cup/world-cup-one-to-watch-yoshinori-muto-%E2%80%93-japan%E2%80%99s-super-sub-who-has-the-speed-to-torment-tiring-defences-1.1030569
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Rich on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:44:58 PM
:fishing:
Sounds like he might not get a work permit. Only us  :lol:
maybe a blessing.


Miserable c***.

f***ing convinced he only posts for the :fishing: then sits back like :cumsplatteredovereverything:

You reckon? :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 27 July 2018, 08:52:39 PM
"Haha, I made you think I'm a c***. Gotcha!"
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: 54 on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:25:41 PM
Feel like he might flop, a right flash in Japan.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:28:57 PM
Laughed at that as well when I saw it on Twitter. :lol: I was just surprised it wasn't Joey.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 27 July 2018, 09:59:22 PM
Don’t know why but I’m tickled pink we’ve got a Japanese and South Korean in the squad.

Excited to see what this guy can do under Rafa.
Exactly the same.  Despite my Korean links I'm unreasonably happy about us signing Muto. Japan were the bollocks in the world cup.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: KaKa on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Feel like he might flop, a right flash in Japan.

 ;D
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Dokko on Friday 27 July 2018, 10:07:05 PM
Another thinking outside the box signing, I reckon he will do well, may not just be goals but general style of play.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Ritchie on Friday 27 July 2018, 11:24:15 PM
Think he'll be better than expected, although I thought the same last year when we signed Joselu.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Dave on Friday 27 July 2018, 11:40:45 PM
I know absolutely nothing about him, so I'd be lying if I said it was an exciting signing considering how much the really good strikers go for these days. Any new striker always gets your hopes up though. Interested to see how he gets on. :thup:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: nufcjb on Saturday 28 July 2018, 12:17:32 AM
Don’t know why but I’m tickled pink we’ve got a Japanese and South Korean in the squad.

Excited to see what this guy can do under Rafa.
Funny, I've felt the same way ever since we were set to sign this lad. A Korean and a Japanese playing for Newcastle United.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: LRD on Saturday 28 July 2018, 12:20:28 AM
Wonder if the Japanese version of oldtype will sign up to this forum.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 28 July 2018, 12:24:50 AM
Well he enjoys fishing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlczChjFekZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=5edizhutlwic
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 28 July 2018, 12:30:52 AM
But what's he doing with Brendan Rodgers?
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Post by: LRD on Saturday 28 July 2018, 12:33:09 AM
Too bad there is no Chinese player worthy of signing to add to the lot.
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Post by: Zero on Saturday 28 July 2018, 01:21:58 AM
Too bad there is no Chinese player worthy of signing to add to the lot.
I can guarantee you no Chinese player has the quality to perform in EPL.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 28 July 2018, 03:04:28 AM
Give it 14 years or so and my boy will be the Chinese Shearer. :thup:

The other one's a big b****** so he's gonna be a Lascelles.

Both signing for Newcastle, obv.
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Post by: Stottie on Saturday 28 July 2018, 09:59:59 AM
I had a look on Squawka and Muto's standout stat is his shooting accuracy, about 65% over the three seasons at Mainz. He doesn't shoot much, and doesn't seem to play that much looking at the minutes played, but gets a relatively high number of those shots on target and makes them count.

Last season Muto scored 7 from 32 shots, Joselu 3 from 44, Gayle 5 from 52, Ayoze 7 from 56. All league only. Muto had 5 from 18 the season before.
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Post by: LRD on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Different leagues though.
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Post by: joeyt on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:08:20 AM
Presume he can still train with us while we wait for his work permit, as just read the permit won;t be decided until late next week.

Obviously he's not going to Portugal but hope he can do some work on the training ground to get him up to speed as he'll be behind Mitrovic and Ki in terms of fitness I imagine
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Post by: 1964 on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:50:47 AM
Well he enjoys fishing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlczChjFekZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=5edizhutlwic
That’s a wrasse that can change sex, oddly enough Muto looks like he could as well
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Post by: Stottie on Saturday 28 July 2018, 11:55:02 AM
Different leagues though.

True, but Muto's shot accuracy and goals/shots taken are good even compared to Bundesliga stars like Lewandowski, Timo Werner and James Rodriguez. Aubameyang played in both leagues last season and his shot accuracy number actually went up after he joined Arsenal. It went bit under the radar with Arsenal's woes and Wenger going, but he's started really hot and could well be a force this season.

Anyway, if Muto can hit the target better than the scatterguns that are Joselu and Gayle, and to a lesser extent Perez, that would do nicely.
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Post by: Tooj on Saturday 28 July 2018, 01:04:26 PM
https://www.eifmagazine.com/2018/06/17/samurai-blue-v-taeguk-warriors-rivalry-reconciliation/

Quite a decent piece here actually on the whole Japan vs South Korea rivalry.
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Post by: Odear on Saturday 28 July 2018, 01:31:25 PM
Looking forward to seeing him play. I guess this will be instead of Rondon which I’m not too disappointed with.

I think Muto will be more of a team player. And more importantly won’t be as docile as Joselu
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 28 July 2018, 01:39:13 PM
We want Rondon too. It just depends on the Mitrovic transfer I assume, which is something that seems to be elduing us evermore as the days of the window tick down.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: hoppaz on Saturday 28 July 2018, 02:10:07 PM
Highly rated just two years ago and knee injury has curtailed his career. If you take the fact I read elsewhere he made 18 sub appearances his goals per min on the pitch ain't too shabby...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/yoshinori-muto-scouting-report-japanese-7177748.amp (https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/yoshinori-muto-scouting-report-japanese-7177748.amp)
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Post by: STM on Saturday 28 July 2018, 02:13:59 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.
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Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 28 July 2018, 06:37:01 PM
Bit pathetic that we barely scrape together a deal and then have to struggle to get the lad a work permit.
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Post by: Pilko on Saturday 28 July 2018, 07:32:06 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.
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Post by: Gorilla on Saturday 28 July 2018, 07:44:10 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.
f***ing spanish c***. Learn how to get the bones and hair out of your bacon you stupid tosser.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 28 July 2018, 07:50:26 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.
And a few on this forum iirc.
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Post by: TRon on Saturday 28 July 2018, 08:13:58 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

I predict Muto will become a fan favourite and detested by a good few as well. Being Japanese might be a factor in both.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Disco on Saturday 28 July 2018, 08:44:37 PM
Can't wait to throw delicious pork and chive gyozas at him, the ramen guzzling c***.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 28 July 2018, 09:53:48 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

I predict Muto will become a fan favourite and detested by a good few as well. Being Japanese might be a factor in both.
Aye, can't wait to hear stories about the Brexit Brigade calling him racial slurs at the game when he doesn't dribble past 6 Tottenham players and English it in the Gallowgate net on the opening day.
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Post by: Shadow Puppets on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:01:01 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should. Barring a good 5 games at the end of the season, he’s been woeful for 2 years.
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Post by: geordiedean on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:34:30 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should he's s**** and unbelievably lightweight not good enough at all
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:40:46 PM
Christ.
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Post by: Dave on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:41:04 PM
FWIW the clique reckons you're s***.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Disco on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:41:57 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should he's s**** and unbelievably lightweight not good enough at all

Alreet George Gormby, give us a rendition of “When I’m licking windows” please.
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Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:42:15 PM
Might as well just admit you touch kids, tbh.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Dave on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:42:26 PM
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Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:43:42 PM
:lol:

Ringing endorsement.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:43:58 PM
Assume by 'problem' he's referring to the work permit? Hope so.
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Post by: Disco on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:44:17 PM
Tbf to Alan Parditez we was energyless.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:44:53 PM
:lol:

Ringing endorsement.
No problem referring to the work permit?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:45:31 PM
:lol: 'Should I say "I can't see any weaknesses in his game"? No, that's mad, he's average at best, I'll go with "I don't see any problem with him"
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Post by: LionOfGosforth on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:46:11 PM
"He can bring us energy". Fuckin hell, that's the least enthused i've ever heard Rafa about a signing. Get rid.
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Post by: Pilko on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:47:20 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should. Barring a good 5 games at the end of the season, he’s been woeful for 2 years.

He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should he's s**** and unbelievably lightweight not good enough at all

Say hi to the rest of the miserable old w*****s in the East Stand for me lads.
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Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:47:32 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should. Barring a good 5 games at the end of the season, he’s been woeful for 2 years.

Lies.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:49:14 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should. Barring a good 5 games at the end of the season, he’s been woeful for 2 years.

He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should he's s**** and unbelievably lightweight not good enough at all

Say hi to the rest of the miserable old w*****s in the East Stand for me lads.
What about the miserable young w*****s?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:49:27 PM
There's some truth in GD's gammon fueled outrage like. Perez definitely needs competition for that #10 spot at least.
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Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:49:57 PM
:lol:

Ringing endorsement.
No problem referring to the work permit?

Yes of course that bit is. I just think with a striker if all you says is 'brings energy' then it's pretty worrying.
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Post by: Dave on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:50:59 PM
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:51:02 PM
There's some truth in GD's gammon fueled outrage like. Perez definitely needs competition for that #10 spot at least.
:lol:

It's the advocating of abusing players that's pure :anguish:, like. Agree with you though.
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Post by: Bimpy474 on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:52:17 PM
I'm not reading too much into that tweet, he may have said more and you get no context on how he said it.
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Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 28 July 2018, 10:52:54 PM
He will be a fan favourite but not particularly prolific in front of goal. Similar to Perez.

Perez gets abused in the ground by all the old c***s who think they know best like.

So he should he's s**** and unbelievably lightweight not good enough at all

:lol:
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Post by: geordiedean on Sunday 29 July 2018, 12:15:28 AM
There's some truth in GD's gammon fueled outrage like. Perez definitely needs competition for that #10 spot at least.

The people who rate him in here is mind boggling apart from about half a dozen games based over the Championship and Premier League the last 2 seasons he's been absolutely hopeless. He's one of the most infuriating players we have with his serious lack of strength on the ball. You watch him and at times a 5 year old could push him over and dispossess him

To think he's our only option as a number 10 is terrifying
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Post by: Disco on Sunday 29 July 2018, 01:47:31 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/v32Xl7qvTW4G4/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Ian W on Sunday 29 July 2018, 02:10:40 AM
Perez can be annoying with falling over in challenges but you have to learn to overlook it because he’s one of our most important players.
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Post by: DJ_NUFC on Sunday 29 July 2018, 02:19:48 AM
There's some truth in GD's gammon fueled outrage like. Perez definitely needs competition for that #10 spot at least.

The people who rate him in here is mind boggling apart from about half a dozen games based over the Championship and Premier League the last 2 seasons he's been absolutely hopeless. He's one of the most infuriating players we have with his serious lack of strength on the ball. You watch him and at times a 5 year old could push him over and dispossess him

To think he's our only option as a number 10 is terrifying

Hey geordiedean. Here you are. We were looking all over for you during the purple patch our team was having, when Perez was scoring goals for fun, working his ass off, and the whole forum was on a high.

Good to know you only come around to spout absolute s****.
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Post by: Stottie on Sunday 29 July 2018, 03:11:07 AM
I am way happier about this deal than if we were giving Liverpool 20M for Danny Ings.
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Post by: Altamullan on Sunday 29 July 2018, 06:41:45 AM
I am way happier about this deal than if we were giving Liverpool 20M for Danny Ings.
:thup: me too. Ignoring the extreme ends of the name calling 'debate' over Ayoze, also really pleased to have an option, if indeed Muto is an option to cover that role. Ayoze has yet to put in a convincing full season, or anything like it. Some good patches and great touches, but we need more, especially playing the Rafa Way.
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Post by: UncleBingo on Sunday 29 July 2018, 07:28:34 AM
Is geordiedean the utter mong who posts on RTG too?
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 29 July 2018, 07:32:04 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/v32Xl7qvTW4G4/giphy.gif)

FFS  :lol:
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Post by: steve_69 on Sunday 29 July 2018, 08:59:57 AM
There's some truth in GD's gammon fueled outrage like. Perez definitely needs competition for that #10 spot at least.

The people who rate him in here is mind boggling apart from about half a dozen games based over the Championship and Premier League the last 2 seasons he's been absolutely hopeless. He's one of the most infuriating players we have with his serious lack of strength on the ball. You watch him and at times a 5 year old could push him over and dispossess him

To think he's our only option as a number 10 is terrifying

Can’t believe I’m saying this but I agree with Geordiedean.
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Post by: hakka on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:09:12 AM
I thought Perez proved his worth 2nd half of last season, really got back to his best.
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Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:16:34 AM
Definitely only signing him to tidy the changing room after every match like.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:18:39 AM
I would maybe get the Perez criticism a year or two ago, but to criticise him now when he's clearly developed quite a bit seems unfair to me. Even in pre-season I think he's shown strong signs that he's continuing to really grow into that number 10 role, he looks a threat always imo, makes good, positive runs with the ball, decision making is getting better and his movement is fantastic. That coupled with his well-documented traits of hassling midfielders and defenders to win the ball back up high, and his very good finishing and I think you get a rather good player.

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Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:20:29 AM
I would maybe get the Perez criticism a year or two ago, but to criticise him now when he's clearly developed quite a bit seems unfair to me. Even in pre-season I think he's shown strong signs that he's continuing to really grow into that number 10 role, he looks a threat always imo, makes good, positive runs with the ball, decision making is getting better and his movement is fantastic. That coupled with his well-documented traits of hassling midfielders and defenders to win the ball back up high, and his very good finishing and I think you get a rather good player.



He’s spent the season playing alongside some of the worst strikers we’ve ever had. Can’t blame him for that. I find him extremely frustrating but he is vital to us unless we’re gonna change our stance and spend £40m on a quality number 10.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:23:47 AM
He gets criticism because more often than not he's where our often limited possession ends and that's including in matches where he scores/plays well. If he improves on that he'll be a good all round player, but at the moment that's a big area of weakness for him. He definitely needs someone to challenge him for that position so that they improve the team or push Perez to. Without his purple patch at the end of last season I'd have him down as our worst regular starter tbh.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:34:38 AM
He gets criticism because more often than not he's where our often limited possession ends and that's including in matches where he scores/plays well. If he improves on that he'll be a good all round player, but at the moment that's a big area of weakness for him. He definitely needs someone to challenge him for that position so that they improve the team or push Perez to. Without his purple patch at the end of last season I'd have him down as our worst regular starter tbh.

I'd argue that is as much a reflection of Gayle & Joselu being quite terrible as it is of Perez's ability. I'd agree one of the weaker parts to his game is his decision making, IE. releasing the ball at the right time before running into trouble, but there's only so much of that he can improve without options around him to play 1-2's and such with. Hopefully with Kenedy & Muto up there with him he might have more options in the final third, as even when paired Mitrovic who had decent link up play and made himself available he looked much better, I thought. Gayle especially hides away so much.
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Post by: Sho'Time on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:38:27 AM
He gets criticism because more often than not he's where our often limited possession ends and that's including in matches where he scores/plays well. If he improves on that he'll be a good all round player, but at the moment that's a big area of weakness for him. He definitely needs someone to challenge him for that position so that they improve the team or push Perez to. Without his purple patch at the end of last season I'd have him down as our worst regular starter tbh.

I'd argue that is as much a reflection of Gayle & Joselu being quite terrible as it is of Perez's ability. I'd agree one of the weaker parts to his game is his decision making, IE. releasing the ball at the right time before running into trouble, but there's only so much of that he can improve without options around him to play 1-2's and such with. Hopefully with Kenedy & Muto up there with him he might have more options in the final third, as even when paired Mitrovic who had decent link up play he looked much better, I thought.

Don't agree with this. For all of his poor finishing last season, Gayle was making some really intelligent runs that were giving him a lot of chances to score. Despite his purple patch of scoring, Perez was frustratingly wasteful of possession in a lot of games.
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Gayle had some good games, yes, but he went missing so much man. There was some games last season where I'm not even sure he touched the ball over like 70 minutes. It's no wonder Perez was running into dead ends at times.

I'm not saying it's only the fault of the strikers, but I was making the point that's it's more of a shared responsibility situation than purely a fault of Perez.
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Post by: TRon on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:47:19 AM
If we are expecting players like Perez and Mutu to light up the Premier league, I think we are being slightly delusional. You get what you pay for at the end of the day, and we haven't spent much on either of them when you look at today's market. Until we actually spend some proper money on strikers, Perez is still probably our best forward, although I haven't seen Mutu yet, maybe he'll turn out to be a lot better than the £9m fee would suggest.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 July 2018, 11:03:33 AM
I don't agree with any of the excuses for Perez losing possession. If it was a case of him not having an option for a pass you'd be able to see that and you'd maybe see other players having the same problem too, but you don't, he regularly ignores an option in order to run with the ball and then loses it, or he does the running bit then gets caught on the ball, or overplays it. It's easily his biggest weakness and hopefully he works on it because we'll be a much better team for it.
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Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 29 July 2018, 11:05:42 AM
I don't agree with any of the excuses for Perez losing possession. If it was a case of him not having an option for a pass you'd be able to see that and you'd maybe see other players having the same problem too, but you don't, he regularly ignores an option in order to run with the ball and then loses it, or he does the running bit then gets caught on the ball, or overplays it. It's easily his biggest weakness and hopefully he works on it because we'll be a much better team for it.

Maybe Peres gives them that option.
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Post by: Zero on Sunday 29 July 2018, 11:16:44 AM
I don't think it's pure coincidence that Ayoze was having a great 2nd half when playing alongside Kenedy.

We need covers anyway.  The Muto deal is a great deal by all accounts.
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Post by: KaKa on Sunday 29 July 2018, 11:20:39 AM
If we are expecting players like Perez and Mutu to light up the Premier league, I think we are being slightly delusional. You get what you pay for at the end of the day, and we haven't spent much on either of them when you look at today's market. Until we actually spend some proper money on strikers, Perez is still probably our best forward, although I haven't seen Mutu yet, maybe he'll turn out to be a lot better than the £9m fee would suggest.

Bro, his name is Muto :lol:

Can I ask did you expect Kenedy to perform like he did for us last season? How about Diame once moved to midifield?

You absolutely do not always get what you pay for.

How do Palace feel about Benteke right now?

How do Leicester feel having £25m Iheanacho on the bench every week? How about £15m Musa never starting games? And then being shipped out on loan?

There are absolutely no guarantees based on the fee. You can end up spending vast amounts on a player that osn't that good, or you may actually have a good player, but with a manager who has no clue.

I firmly believe that with Rafa in charge anyone he brings in will perform at their very best and will do very well for us.
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Post by: Rich on Sunday 29 July 2018, 11:22:21 AM
Optimistic KaKa is no malo.
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Post by: KaKa on Sunday 29 July 2018, 11:30:47 AM
I don't even think I'm being optimistic. More realistic :lol:

I just know what we have in Rafa. I think he was more prepared for Mike's foolishness this summer, and so would have had a far more exhaustive list this time around, of players of all price levels that he felt he could get something out of.

In contrast, I think he was caught a little off guard by Mike's behaviour last year, and it really left us scrambling, hence us getting someone like Joselu at the very end of the window.

Even with Joselu, I would not be surprised in the least if even he improves a fair bit, having had a full pre-season with the manager this time around. He did come in very late last summer, and a lot was asked of him right away.

I believe in Rafa man. Think the guy is phenomenal.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 29 July 2018, 12:01:51 PM
One of the best things about Rafa is that he builds squads full of excellent character. So, even if we can only afford players with obvious technical deficiencies/limitations, he finds players who will generally relish the opportunity to improve and will fight for the shirt (Merino the only exception so far). So at least they're bringing something to the table.

It would be cool to see what he could build with even a modest transfer budget. Imagine if we could get players who were really good and really cared.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: TRon on Sunday 29 July 2018, 12:03:28 PM
If we are expecting players like Perez and Mutu to light up the Premier league, I think we are being slightly delusional. You get what you pay for at the end of the day, and we haven't spent much on either of them when you look at today's market. Until we actually spend some proper money on strikers, Perez is still probably our best forward, although I haven't seen Mutu yet, maybe he'll turn out to be a lot better than the £9m fee would suggest.

Bro, his name is Muto :lol:

Can I ask did you expect Kenedy to perform like he did for us last season? How about Diame once moved to midifield?

You absolutely do not always get what you pay for.

How do Palace feel about Benteke right now?

How do Leicester feel having £25m Iheanacho on the bench every week? How about £15m Musa never starting games? And then being shipped out on loan?

There are absolutely no guarantees based on the fee. You can end up spending vast amounts on a player that osn't that good, or you may actually have a good player, but with a manager who has no clue.

I firmly believe that with Rafa in charge anyone he brings in will perform at their very best and will do very well for us.

I would feel a lot more confident if I was 100% convinced Muto was someone Rafa was desperate to bring in, he wasn't exactly bubbling with enthusiasm when he mentioned him. Honestly, it feels more like a squad signing at the moment, I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: ElCid on Sunday 29 July 2018, 12:27:41 PM
If we are expecting players like Perez and Mutu to light up the Premier league, I think we are being slightly delusional. You get what you pay for at the end of the day, and we haven't spent much on either of them when you look at today's market. Until we actually spend some proper money on strikers, Perez is still probably our best forward, although I haven't seen Mutu yet, maybe he'll turn out to be a lot better than the £9m fee would suggest.

Exactly neither are what we should have as first team players in attempting to move forward. Rafa knows this and that’s why he would like to bring upgrades in unfortunately the fat c*** and his f***ing useless muppet administrator persistently leave it too late/offer peanuts and then Rafa is forced to make do with targets well down his preferred list. Ultimately it’s the reason he will be gone next summer.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: George Bailey on Sunday 29 July 2018, 12:30:43 PM
Based on absolutely nothing and with zip knowledge of the lad I am optimistic this lad is going to do well.
Have no idea why, other than Rafa, but I think he could be stupendous.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: HawK on Sunday 29 July 2018, 12:33:25 PM
Looks like KaKa's had his weekly backhander into his PayPal account cleared. How many posts a week do you need to get paid for supporting Ashley's lack of investment in the club? :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: KaKa on Sunday 29 July 2018, 12:43:02 PM
Looks like KaKa's had his weekly backhander into his PayPal account cleared. How many posts a week do you need to get paid for supporting Ashley's lack of investment in the club? :lol:

Mike Ashley is dense man. He doesn't realise that with average financial support his current manager could have us competing easily for the top 6 with a slight chance of even breaking into the top 4. He is wasting an incredible opportunity. Unfortunately, we are stuck with the oaf.

Now, with that said, I believe Rafa is so good that even with players down his list we will still have a team to really get behind and enjoy because we will still be competitive and fun to watch. That's all I'm saying.

I think people thinking these players are going to be terrible and therefore the team will be terrible, and the likes of Wolves, Fulham and Everton are going to put us to shame will prove to be massively inaccurate.

This isn't difficult to understand.

Now, if Rafa continues to excel even under these ridiculous conditions, maybe the fat man eventually realises that he cannot ever afford to let the guy go, and perhaps eventually does the right thing.

Alternatively, maybe someone form the outside looks at the potential of the club and what Rafa continues to achieve in such ridiculous conditions, and just throws what money Ashley wants at him, and takes us over.

I am not writing off our situation with Rafa still here that's all. Doesn't mean I'm supporting MA, but you are entitled to perceive it that way, being the dingbat that you are  :D ;)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Bimpy474 on Sunday 29 July 2018, 01:37:59 PM
Kaka is seeing the best in a bad deal, and why not it's the only thing we have to cling on to, it doesn't mean we can't still hate Ashley and know he's f***ing us over.

The one thing i think Kaka is wrong about is Ashley realizing what he has in Rafa, Ashley is too pig headed and only cares about money, everything else is secondary. I hope Kaka is right about someone seeing the potential the club has with Rafa in charge, we all hope that now.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: HawK on Sunday 29 July 2018, 03:53:49 PM
Looks like KaKa's had his weekly backhander into his PayPal account cleared. How many posts a week do you need to get paid for supporting Ashley's lack of investment in the club? :lol:

Mike Ashley is dense man. He doesn't realise that with average financial support his current manager could have us competing easily for the top 6 with a slight chance of even breaking into the top 4. He is wasting an incredible opportunity. Unfortunately, we are stuck with the oaf.

Now, with that said, I believe Rafa is so good that even with players down his list we will still have a team to really get behind and enjoy because we will still be competitive and fun to watch. That's all I'm saying.

I think people thinking these players are going to be terrible and therefore the team will be terrible, and the likes of Wolves, Fulham and Everton are going to put us to shame will prove to be massively inaccurate.

This isn't difficult to understand.

Now, if Rafa continues to excel even under these ridiculous conditions, maybe the fat man eventually realises that he cannot ever afford to let the guy go, and perhaps eventually does the right thing.

Alternatively, maybe someone form the outside looks at the potential of the club and what Rafa continues to achieve in such ridiculous conditions, and just throws what money Ashley wants at him, and takes us over.

I am not writing off our situation with Rafa still here that's all. Doesn't mean I'm supporting MA, but you are entitled to perceive it that way, being the dingbat that you are  :D ;)

Well, there's absolutely no way I can come back from that :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: QuakesMag on Sunday 29 July 2018, 06:04:52 PM
:lol: Kaka learned his insults from a 96 year old lady named Mildred.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: KaKa on Sunday 29 July 2018, 06:45:28 PM
Shut it you twerp  :laugh:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: QuakesMag on Sunday 29 July 2018, 07:01:58 PM
Mildred talking about the olden times in the Rosie the Riveter factories. One of those dames was a heck of a jive bomber.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Interpolic on Sunday 29 July 2018, 07:58:46 PM
Kaka learned his insults from a 96 year old lady named Mildred.
Shut it you twerp 
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: khay on Sunday 29 July 2018, 10:18:03 PM
Any idea what day this is likely to be concluded? I we talking Monday or some point before Friday.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Toon No9 on Sunday 29 July 2018, 11:04:23 PM
Any idea what day this is likely to be concluded? I we talking Monday or some point before Friday.
Monday IS some point before Friday!😉
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: khay on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 03:16:04 PM
Any idea what day this is likely to be concluded? I we talking Monday or some point before Friday.
Monday IS some point before Friday!😉

some point between Tuesday and Friday now?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: HawK on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 03:28:27 PM
Any idea what day this is likely to be concluded? I we talking Monday or some point before Friday.
Monday IS some point before Friday!😉

some point between Tuesday and Friday now?

Nope, still some point before Friday :thup:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Odear on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 03:39:20 PM
I think Pérez will fare better once he returns to Spain.

I’m reluctantly in agreement with the above comments. He’s been more infuriating than he has been brilliant. But his average is simply just average and that’s nowhere near good enough for this level.

How many other teams would he be an automatic first choice?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 03:44:41 PM
Plenty of PL clubs would start him

6 goals and 5 assists with the s**** he had in front of him is not bad at all.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 03:47:39 PM
Plenty of PL clubs would start him

6 goals and 5 assists with the s**** he had in front of him is not bad at all.

6 goals is nowhere near good enough over the course of a season for a number 10

Our levels of apathy and expectation are lower than a snakes belly now
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 03:49:48 PM
Perez didn't get 6 though did he? he got 8.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: Stottie on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 04:40:08 PM
Plenty of PL clubs would start him

6 goals and 5 assists with the s**** he had in front of him is not bad at all.

As Liam says it was 8 and you're right, it's not bad at all.
Pascal Gross at Brighton was viewed as one of the non-top 6 signings of the season for similar output.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 04:43:37 PM
Oh my bad, not sure how i f***ed that up haha. 8 is very decent from the 10 postion
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing next week)
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 31 July 2018, 04:44:58 PM
Interesting that whoscored has him scoring 2 in 3 playing straight up FW.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing this week)
Post by: khay on Thursday 2 August 2018, 11:46:27 AM
Friday press conference ?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing this week)
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 2 August 2018, 11:49:36 AM
He needs to run for the hills and not go anywhere near this s*** tip joke run of a club.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing this week)
Post by: LRD on Thursday 2 August 2018, 11:50:57 AM
"I've made a huge mistake."
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing this week)
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 2 August 2018, 12:03:59 PM
Part of me wants this to fall through tbh.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing this week)
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 12:19:35 PM
So it's gonna be Muto upfront and Perez behind?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing this week)
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:15:44 PM
Done
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:17:07 PM
Ashley in! Rafa out!
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:26:43 PM
Feel so sad for both Muto and Schar. Imagine joining a club in such turmoil.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC
Post by: St1pe on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:26:49 PM
Good luck to him, we’re going to need something.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Ikon on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:29:54 PM
Kamikaze attack on Ashley and you will always be remembered as the best striker ever Muto.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:30:23 PM
Ashley in! Rafa out!
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Muto joins NUFC subject to work permit (hearing this week)
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:32:19 PM
Done

Confirmation, there's your confirmation.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:34:26 PM
Unlucky lad. If you'd played in a worse league they might have denied it and you could have avoided coming to this shitheap of a club.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: khay on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:35:26 PM
Yay! Going to be a star.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:42:34 PM
Bought himself an oversized Primark work shirt for the photoshoot
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180802/98a3dd90b9a47793c2f536b4d25270e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Disco on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:52:06 PM
Loving the boxes in the corner of the image.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:53:02 PM
Loving the boxes in the corner of the image.

:lol:

So amateur.

Looks like the gave him Charnley’s shirt as well.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:57:05 PM
Loving the boxes in the corner of the image.

:lol:

So amateur.

Looks like the gave him Charnley’s shirt as well.

That's Rafa's office isn't it? :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: 54 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:57:44 PM
Loving the boxes in the corner of the image.

:lol:

So amateur.

Looks like the gave him Charnley’s shirt as well.
I don't particularly get how it's amateur, it's just a design they're using this season for bordering photos, I actually quite like it.

Edit: I'm a dumbass. You meant physical boxes. Not the border of the image. :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: SuperFlat on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:58:46 PM
Actual boxes, mate.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:58:49 PM
Welcome, Yoshi :thup:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 02:59:10 PM
Loving the boxes in the corner of the image.



So amateur.

Looks like the gave him Charnley’s shirt as well.
I don't particularly get how it's amateur, it's just a design they're using this season for bordering photos, I actually quite like it.
The actual f***ing box, not the bordering
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:04:26 PM
Box
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Sima on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:12:24 PM
Actual boxes, mate.

:lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Gorilla on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:15:48 PM
Actual boxes, mate.

:lol:
Maybe the cash has been delivered for Rafa to spend.

EDIT:
Or Rafa is clearing out his office.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: geordiedean on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:16:30 PM
Looks like there's a wicker basket there filled with papers must be the transfer lucky dip
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:21:11 PM
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2h51aft.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Odear on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:23:52 PM
“Ok Rafa, you can have 100m to spend as you like over the next 8 days OR, you can have what’s inside the box”

“Thé box! Thé box!”

And so the transfer window came to pass
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: LRD on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:24:02 PM
Wore a full suit for his Mainz reveal.

Lack of effort and clearly has no respect for the club. Sell.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Disco on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:26:09 PM
Japanese salary man shirt >>>
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Collage on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:27:06 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad68afeee9613426dea54940e63cb4bd/tenor.gif?itemid=5888690)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: nufc4eva on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:30:04 PM
Hope he's mint and we sell for 30 million in a year, will be so proud.

My YouTube scouting appears to show he uses both feet, hope he works like f***. Great asset for championship
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Collage on Thursday 2 August 2018, 03:50:39 PM
Wore a full suit for his Mainz reveal.

Lack of effort and clearly has no respect for the club. Sell.

When in Rome...
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Dave on Thursday 2 August 2018, 04:10:41 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad68afeee9613426dea54940e63cb4bd/tenor.gif?itemid=5888690)

:lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 2 August 2018, 04:21:01 PM
Happy days!
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 2 August 2018, 04:58:27 PM
Good signing. Maybe Rafa wants to stop whining and start being a bit positive. #absolutecuntsontwitterandfacebook.

Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: steve_69 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 05:01:18 PM
Good signing. Maybe Rafa wants to stop whining and start being a bit positive. #absolutecuntsontwitterandfacebook.



Are you being serious?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 2 August 2018, 05:02:36 PM
Good signing. Maybe Rafa wants to stop whining and start being a bit positive. #absolutecuntsontwitterandfacebook.



Are you being serious?

Look at his hashtag dude
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 2 August 2018, 05:03:27 PM
Good signing. Maybe Rafa wants to stop whining and start being a bit positive. #absolutecuntsontwitterandfacebook.



Are you being serious?
I think the hashtag solves that mystery.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: TRon on Thursday 2 August 2018, 05:04:52 PM
In hindsight this is actually a massive signing. £9.5m for a 26 yr old? f*** me, I'll take it. Welcome aboard Muto!
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Gorilla on Thursday 2 August 2018, 05:07:40 PM
In hindsight this is actually a massive signing. £9.5m for a 26 yr old? f*** me, I'll take it. Welcome aboard Muto!
I know a bloke who is 26. You can have him for 9.5 Million if you want
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: steve_69 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 05:08:42 PM
Good signing. Maybe Rafa wants to stop whining and start being a bit positive. #absolutecuntsontwitterandfacebook.



Are you being serious?
I think the hashtag solves that mystery.

I didn't know which way he was going. I haven't seen any c***s on Twitter and Facebook, everyone seems to be united in their hatred of Ashley  :dowie:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:19:54 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Odear on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:25:44 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:26:22 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Collage on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:26:47 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Favourable for Sports Direct in Asia.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:27:49 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
My guess is the signings we've made so far don't want mental wages and the ones we're unable to get want the going rate. I'm not convinced it's all down to fees, still think Ashley is hung up on what happened with Allardyce.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Bellars on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:33:07 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
My guess is the signings we've made so far don't want mental wages and the ones we're unable to get want the going rate. I'm not convinced it's all down to fees, still think Ashley is hung up on what happened with Allardyce.

I can't think that far back. The brain damage over the years and through the managers has been too traumatic. What happened with Allardyce again?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Hello Muto

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Djm4jkwX4AA3KmR.png)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:47:50 PM
Weirdest abs i've ever seen
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:54:56 PM
Hello Muto

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Djm4jkwX4AA3KmR.png)

"I've made a huge mistake"
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: STM on Thursday 2 August 2018, 06:55:20 PM
Why do his abs look like his face? Weird.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: HawK on Thursday 2 August 2018, 07:04:43 PM
Pretty sure that's the cheapest MFI kitchen cabinet set you can get.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Anderson on Thursday 2 August 2018, 07:41:29 PM
Weirdest abs i've ever seen

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ChCckO_F0Ss/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 2 August 2018, 07:41:58 PM
Poor f***er
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 2 August 2018, 07:45:29 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

Oldtype already poured cold water on this theory re: Ki. I imagine it’s much the same for Muto and Japan.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Elliottman on Thursday 2 August 2018, 07:51:24 PM
Looks like a tank
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Menace on Thursday 2 August 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Scenes when this guy scores 20 and we get top 8.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 2 August 2018, 08:03:30 PM
Scenes when this guy scores 20 and we get top 8.

7th. Just missing the bonuses.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Kasper on Thursday 2 August 2018, 10:14:01 PM
Muto arrives...

(https://i.imgur.com/xZYuNR1.gif)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Willow on Thursday 2 August 2018, 10:16:48 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Thursday 2 August 2018, 10:25:19 PM
Weirdest abs i've ever seen

They look like the sorting hat
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Thursday 2 August 2018, 10:55:10 PM
Supposed to be really quick, which is what we need and looks like a poacher from the very little Iv seen.

Hope he does well, I like the look of him.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: khay on Thursday 2 August 2018, 11:04:53 PM
Any idea on squad number?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: duo on Thursday 2 August 2018, 11:20:21 PM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
:lol:

Anyone is an improvement over Joselu.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: duo on Thursday 2 August 2018, 11:22:45 PM
Pretty sure that's the cheapest MFI kitchen cabinet set you can get.
I bet Charnley fitted it himself as well
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Odear on Thursday 2 August 2018, 11:59:47 PM
🙂

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united-have-actually-spent-real-money-on-a-footballer-193154

Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Paully on Friday 3 August 2018, 12:02:12 AM
Muto arrives...

(https://i.imgur.com/xZYuNR1.gif)

Brilliant as always mate!
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: loki679 on Friday 3 August 2018, 04:13:37 AM
🙂

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united-have-actually-spent-real-money-on-a-footballer-193154



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Today's news will come as a pleasant surprise to Benitez then, as he finally has another striker in his squad to compete with Dwight Gayle

Joselu - :okay:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: chicken little on Friday 3 August 2018, 07:37:20 AM
Weirdest abs i've ever seen

just a reminder that that mad freak carragher doesn't have a navel on account of having been born with his guts on the outside

(https://i.imgur.com/bqKzRsT.jpg)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 3 August 2018, 07:45:43 AM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
My guess is the signings we've made so far don't want mental wages and the ones we're unable to get want the going rate. I'm not convinced it's all down to fees, still think Ashley is hung up on what happened with Allardyce.

I can't think that far back. The brain damage over the years and through the managers has been too traumatic. What happened with Allardyce again?

Alan Smith, Geremi, Barton, Rosenthal. The list goes on
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 3 August 2018, 07:48:07 AM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
My guess is the signings we've made so far don't want mental wages and the ones we're unable to get want the going rate. I'm not convinced it's all down to fees, still think Ashley is hung up on what happened with Allardyce.

I can't think that far back. The brain damage over the years and through the managers has been too traumatic. What happened with Allardyce again?

Alan Smith, Geremi, Barton, Rosenthal. The list goes on
The ridiculous thing is it's an impossible thing to avoid in football. All Ashley has done is spend 10 years doing the exact same thing only with younger players. We're always saddled with s*** players to get rid of, every club is really.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 3 August 2018, 07:51:31 AM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
My guess is the signings we've made so far don't want mental wages and the ones we're unable to get want the going rate. I'm not convinced it's all down to fees, still think Ashley is hung up on what happened with Allardyce.

I can't think that far back. The brain damage over the years and through the managers has been too traumatic. What happened with Allardyce again?

Alan Smith, Geremi, Barton, Rosenthal. The list goes on
The ridiculous thing is it's an impossible thing to avoid in football. All Ashley has done is spend 10 years doing the exact same thing only with younger players. We're always saddled with s*** players to get rid of, every club is really.

True, I just think Allardyce saddled us with a lot of it early on in Ashley's reign of terror and that set the scene where he then looked for value in every deal and not the fact you have to pay for quality players and may or may not see a healthy return on all of them but that's supplemented by other income streams.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 3 August 2018, 07:53:53 AM
Why have we signed this guy? What about him makes Ashley think he’s worth it? Hmm.........

Potential shirt sales in Japan / exposure to new markets etc. It’s fairly straightforward.

I was kinda making that point tbh
My guess is the signings we've made so far don't want mental wages and the ones we're unable to get want the going rate. I'm not convinced it's all down to fees, still think Ashley is hung up on what happened with Allardyce.

I can't think that far back. The brain damage over the years and through the managers has been too traumatic. What happened with Allardyce again?

Alan Smith, Geremi, Barton, Rosenthal. The list goes on
The ridiculous thing is it's an impossible thing to avoid in football. All Ashley has done is spend 10 years doing the exact same thing only with younger players. We're always saddled with s*** players to get rid of, every club is really.

True, I just think Allardyce saddled us with a lot of it early on in Ashley's reign of terror and that set the scene where he then looked for value in every deal and not the fact you have to pay for quality players and may or may not see a healthy return on all of them but that's supplemented by other income streams.
Yeah absolutely. Some of those deals were f***ing horrible tbph but as ever Ashley's reaction wasn't proportionate nor sensible.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Friday 3 August 2018, 04:13:15 PM
Has Rafa actually said anything about this guy?  Usually he’ll give us some info on what kind of player he is and what he’ll bring to the team, but i haven’t seen anything so far.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 3 August 2018, 04:14:37 PM
Has Rafa actually said anything about this guy?  Usually he’ll give us some info on what kind of player he is and what he’ll bring to the team, but i haven’t seen anything so far.

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Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 3 August 2018, 04:15:58 PM
Wonder if whoever runs his Twitter is being sarcastic with the #nufctransfers bit.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 3 August 2018, 04:17:25 PM
Newcastle boss Rafael Benitez said: "I am really pleased to have Yoshinori Muto with us. We were following him for quite a while. Hopefully he can bring us his energy and work-rate and help the team to improve and be better for the new season."
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Friday 3 August 2018, 04:19:11 PM
Cheers Opti Nut 👍
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: HawK on Friday 3 August 2018, 08:15:52 PM
Pretty sure that's the cheapest MFI kitchen cabinet set you can get.
I bet Charnley fitted it himself as well

Judging by the alignment on several of the handles it's not a bad shout.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 12:31:12 AM
I know nowt of this player, but I've been in Germany visiting family for a few days recently and our neighbour a Leverkusen fan and his wife a Frankfurt fan (she studied in Newcastle and lived here for a while) both said we would like him as he doesn’t stop running, is technically gifted, quick and can do a number of jobs. He was highly rated at one point apparently. They also said what has happed to NUFC lately is sad. They said at the price we got him for he will be good value for money and should have no problem fitting in.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 01:48:55 AM
I know nowt of this player, but I've been in Germany visiting family for a few days recently and our neighbour a Leverkusen fan and his wife a Frankfurt fan (she studied in Newcastle and lived here for a while) both said we would like him as he doesn’t stop running, is technically gifted, quick and can do a number of jobs. He was highly rated at one point apparently. They also said what has happed to NUFC lately is sad. They said at the price we got him for he will be good value for money and should have no problem fitting in.

:thup:

Don’t think we’ve signed a single bad egg under Rafa. No lazy c***s, no clubhouse cancers.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: morpeth mag on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 03:34:41 PM
Lazaar?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 03:40:39 PM
Incredible how Rafa is finding these players who are available, affordable, want to come and have decent characters.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 03:41:29 PM
Lazaar?

s*** player but not a bad egg. No skipping training or like.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 03:46:38 PM
Is he still knocking about? Forgot he existed.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Parky on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 03:48:00 PM
Looks like a tidy striker who can also come in from the left. 1/3 record in the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: HawK on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 04:14:16 PM
Damnit, catching myself singing 'Rondon Calling' under my breath at work :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 04:15:06 PM
Wrong thread bozo.

 :)
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: HawK on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 04:16:18 PM
Wrong thread bozo.

 :)

:lol: Whoosh!!!
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 04:16:58 PM
Oh man :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: BeloEmre on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 07:39:56 PM
Is he available on Saturday or is he still waiting to fix the visa issues?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 08:13:00 PM
Is he available on Saturday or is he still waiting to fix the visa issues?

 :serious:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: BeloEmre on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 08:14:39 PM
Is he available on Saturday or is he still waiting to fix the visa issues?

 :serious:
What?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 08:18:07 PM
Are you living in a box?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: BeloEmre on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 08:21:30 PM
He didn’t play against Augsburg because he’s still waiting for some visa formalities to be sorted out, thats why i’m asking...
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 08:28:30 PM
He didn’t play against Augsburg because he’s still waiting for some visa formalities to be sorted out, thats why i’m asking...
Formalities are sorted out, he didn’t play because he only had 1 training session with the rest of the squad.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: BeloEmre on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 08:30:15 PM
He didn’t play against Augsburg because he’s still waiting for some visa formalities to be sorted out, thats why i’m asking...
Formalities are sorted out, he didn’t play because he only had 1 training session with the rest of the squad.
Not according to Matthew Raisbeck:
He has the work permit but won’t play today because he’s still sorting out the formalities of the visa.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 7 August 2018, 11:53:50 PM
Aye, a work permit isn't a visa, lads :lol:
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 8 August 2018, 12:07:49 AM
Surely we'd have it done within a week

If he can't train without it then no chance he's involved though.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 8 August 2018, 12:17:18 AM
Surely we'd have it done within a week

If he can't train without it then no chance he's involved though.

Depends on the visa office, they have to do everything by the book.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 8 August 2018, 09:02:30 AM
So our top signing this season is actually Viktor Navorski
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: TRon on Saturday 11 August 2018, 05:50:48 PM
i wonder if we've underrated this signing because few of us knew much about him and the relatively low fee?

The Times had an article today 'Six low key signings which could make a big impact' and guess who was one of those six?


Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 11 August 2018, 05:51:52 PM
i wonder if we've underrated this signing because few of us knew much about him and the relatively low fee?

The Times had an article today 'Six low key signings which could make a big impact' and guess who was one of those six?

Really liked the look of him today. Seemed to come on and take the game in his stride, a certain air of confidence.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Collage on Saturday 11 August 2018, 05:54:46 PM
i wonder if we've underrated this signing because few of us knew much about him and the relatively low fee?

The Times had an article today 'Six low key signings which could make a big impact' and guess who was one of those six?

Really liked the look of him today. Seemed to come on and take the game in his stride, a certain air of confidence.

Yep. Looked quick, good on the ball and, as you say, confident.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: TRon on Saturday 11 August 2018, 05:55:04 PM
i wonder if we've underrated this signing because few of us knew much about him and the relatively low fee?

The Times had an article today 'Six low key signings which could make a big impact' and guess who was one of those six?

Really liked the look of him today. Seemed to come on and take the game in his stride, a certain air of confidence.

Yeah, don't want to get carried away, but he seems to have really good feet and some swagger.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 11 August 2018, 05:58:59 PM
Liked him today, makes good runs and got dribbling skills. And he's one handsome b****** n'al.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:01:46 PM
Excited to see how he does for us. Think he has some good tools to be quite effective and adds something to the 10 position that we've not had for ages.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:06:59 PM
All the attention has all been on Rondon aswell. Muto hasnt even been mentioned much in our coverage.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: captainhaircut on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:14:49 PM
Did he play 10 when he came on?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Bimpy474 on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:17:55 PM
Did he play 10 when he came on?

Sort of, we had both front players quite far forward but he was dropping in.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:18:41 PM
Did he play 10 when he came on?

replaced perez but roamed around, ran into channels and on the shoulders of the defenders...looked well suited to it to me
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:18:59 PM
He pressed when we didnt have the ball but he was getting straight on the shoulder when we did. Hard to tell.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:21:21 PM
yeah hard to tell but really looks like he's going to be on the shoulder a lot whereas perez plays in front all the time

could turn out f***ing mint if him and rondon strike up an understanding
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: TRon on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:25:23 PM
yeah hard to tell but really looks like he's going to be on the shoulder a lot whereas perez plays in front all the time

could turn out f***ing mint if him and rondon strike up an understanding

Those runs into the channels could transform us if he can do it to good effect. Perez tries his best, but he's not quick enough either physically or mentally.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:31:38 PM
All the attention has all been on Rondon aswell. Muto hasnt even been mentioned much in our coverage.

Which is weird considering he looked a lot better, didn't like Rondon's performance at all. Very labored and didn't do much to help the team build up attacks, as a team we were a lot better before he came on.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: TRon on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:34:45 PM
All the attention has all been on Rondon aswell. Muto hasnt even been mentioned much in our coverage.

Which is weird considering he looked a lot better, didn't like Rondon's performance at all. Very labored and didn't do much to help the team build up attacks, as a team we were a lot better before he came on.

Said it in the match thread, but I'm not convinced Rondon is as mobile as he's cracked up to be. Couldn't see it on his YT videos and didn't see it today.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:39:04 PM
Rondon looked slow as s*** today, hoping that's fitness though
Title: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 11 August 2018, 06:57:22 PM
Rondon didn’t look fit but he was actually quite good in some of the dinks around the box. The hell is mole talking about.

Loved Muto’s movement like
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Saturday 11 August 2018, 07:46:20 PM
Rondon didn’t look fit but he was actually quite good in some of the dinks around the box. The hell is mole talking about.

Loved Muto’s movement like

What does that have to do with what i said? i said he did nothing to help the midfield build attacks. Our build up play was absolutely horrid with him on the pitch.

When Joselu was on, we were getting into the final third consistently more often.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: HTT on Saturday 11 August 2018, 07:52:54 PM
Rondon looked slow as s*** today, hoping that's fitness though

Looked huge as well, as did a lot of our players and I dunno if it was because of my s*** Sky stream, but the game was played at a really slow pace even by first game of the season standards, both teams.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 11 August 2018, 08:07:01 PM
Rondon didn’t look fit but he was actually quite good in some of the dinks around the box. The hell is mole talking about.

Loved Muto’s movement like

What does that have to do with what i said? i said he did nothing to help the midfield build attacks. Our build up play was absolutely horrid with him on the pitch.

When Joselu was on, we were getting into the final third consistently more often.

I think that had more to do with Ritchie going off to be honest. It seemed to flatten us a bit.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: ujpest doza on Saturday 11 August 2018, 09:02:19 PM
I like him.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Saturday 11 August 2018, 11:53:59 PM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:24:02 AM
Good cameo i thought, looks decent.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:40:21 AM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:47:23 AM
???
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:53:23 AM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?

Yellow submarine.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Zero on Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:05:10 AM
As said, Muto is Rafa's answer for no.10.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:36:18 AM
Made some lovely runs in a short time, watching it back. They weren't just runs for the sake of it either, they were purposeful and opened up good space for others. Should've done better with that cross when on his left - a floated ball to back post to Rondon was on.

Got a good feeling about him. Think he'll add a new dimension to our sometimes weak attack, once he gets up-to-speed with his teammates.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: CPL on Sunday 12 August 2018, 04:51:09 AM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?

Turning Japanese by the vapors surely.
Title: Re: Official: Yoshinori Mutō joins NUFC
Post by: Zero on Sunday 12 August 2018, 04:56:45 AM
Made some lovely runs in a short time, watching it back. They weren't just runs for the sake of it either, they were purposeful and opened up good space for others. Should've done better with that cross when on his left - a floated ball to back post to Rondon was on.

Got a good feeling about him. Think he'll add a new dimension to our sometimes weak attack, once he gets up-to-speed with his teammates.

Most of the Japanese players are well-trained for technique and tactics. They just lack the physique to make the best out of any chances created.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Sunday 12 August 2018, 08:07:11 AM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?

Turning Japanese by the vapors surely.

 :lol: Yep. What else would it possibly be?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: healthyaddiction on Sunday 12 August 2018, 08:23:32 AM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?

Turning Japanese by the vapors surely.

 :lol: Yep. What else would it possibly be?

We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō,
Was the summer of '69.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: CPL on Sunday 12 August 2018, 08:25:20 AM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?

Turning Japanese by the vapors surely.

 :lol: Yep. What else would it possibly be?

Someone put yellow submarine above :lol: I was meant to quote that message as well.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 09:27:34 AM
 :embarrassed: never heard of the vapors sorry
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Rich on Sunday 12 August 2018, 09:34:46 AM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 09:38:13 AM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.

do you think so?  in post posts enthusing about him running the channels i was specifically gonna say he doesn't have bellamy's pace :lol:

slightly different point you're making though, granted
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Rich on Sunday 12 August 2018, 09:51:16 AM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.

do you think so?  in post posts enthusing about him running the channels i was specifically gonna say he doesn't have bellamy's pace :lol:

slightly different point you're making though, granted

I think he just looked incredibly sharp. Seems to read the game really well, so he looked to be anticipating where the ball would go and was already up to speed by the time it got there. Don't think he's Bellamy quick, but it's night and day between him and Perez. Loved to see him pointing and telling Atsu/Rondon where to move to as well, seems like a great character.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 10:05:49 AM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.

do you think so?  in post posts enthusing about him running the channels i was specifically gonna say he doesn't have bellamy's pace :lol:

slightly different point you're making though, granted

I think he just looked incredibly sharp. Seems to read the game really well, so he looked to be anticipating where the ball would go and was already up to speed by the time it got there. Don't think he's Bellamy quick, but it's night and day between him and Perez. Loved to see him pointing and telling Atsu/Rondon where to move to as well, seems like a great character.

totally agree, the parallels with bellamy look there to me given how high he's looking to play and his workrate in harrying defenders etc.

really hope rafa just throws him into it asap, feels harsh on perez but this lad seems like he could have a major impact on the way the team plays to me
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 10:38:10 AM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?

Turning Japanese by the vapors surely.

 :lol: Yep. What else would it possibly be?

Someone put yellow submarine above :lol: I was meant to quote that message as well.

I was just being silly.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Odear on Sunday 12 August 2018, 11:53:41 AM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.

do you think so?  in post posts enthusing about him running the channels i was specifically gonna say he doesn't have bellamy's pace :lol:

slightly different point you're making though, granted

Very few in world football have Bellamy’s pace.

Muto is lightning quick though. Wasn’t afraid at all to take on Spurs defenders. Think this guy is gonna surprise a lot of people this season.

Rondon looked ok as well, give the lad a chance. Can’t go slagging off players because they didn’t perform miracles after coming on when we are losing.. it’ll take him a while to gel
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:00:36 PM
Yeah I thought he had a decent cameo; looks like a decent understudy for Perez, even if he doesn't start from as deep a position. Hopefully he resembles good competition and both will push each other on to improve. I thought Rondon was quiet but unlucky not to score; he'll ultimately by judged on his goals. He needs to be hitting around 15 if we have aspirations of fighting for Europa League spots. I doubt he'll get close to that though.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: STM on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:02:32 PM
Muto did more in his cameo than Perez did for the previous hour. I will be keen to see if he can push him out of the team.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:12:54 PM
Muto did more in his cameo than Perez did for the previous hour. I will be keen to see if he can push him out of the team.

I think I'm more interested in seeing both Perez & Muto together, rather than one or the other. I think their movement together could be a real problem for defences. Perez has always made lots of smart runs, pulling defenders out of position, and Muto seems intelligent enough to exploit spaces left.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: triggs on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:15:29 PM
Would definitely start Muto ahead of Perez the next game, or even as the striker. Looks like he can really stretch the defence which our other players can’t
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Rich on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:18:15 PM
Would definitely start Muto ahead of Perez the next game, or even as the striker. Looks like he can really stretch the defence which our other players can’t

:thup:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:19:08 PM
Muto did more in his cameo than Perez did for the previous hour. I will be keen to see if he can push him out of the team.

I think I'm more interested in seeing both Perez & Muto together, rather than one or the other. I think their movement together could be a real problem for defences. Perez has always made lots of smart runs, pulling defenders out of position, and Muto seems intelligent enough to exploit spaces left.

who would you drop out of the team to accommodate that though, it'd have to ritchie or kenedy no?  i could see it being worth a try when one of them is injured/out of form mind
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:20:12 PM
Eventually, once Rafa sees fit, I'd be keen to see this:

Ritchie---Perez---Kenedy
-----------Muto-----------

Sure it's not all that physical, but I can see Perez & Muto interchanging at different points in a game (one leads the line, one drops off). Early days for Muto but he seems a very comfortable footballer which will only benefit the likes of Kenedy & Ritchie as well.

Certainly don't see the use in dropping Perez just yet, he was one of our best players in the second half of last season.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:26:49 PM
play that away from home i reckon you might as well take a box of white flags :lol:

rondon will start whenever he's fit like, and muto will play off him in the bellamy role, it's clear as day
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:28:33 PM
I wouldn't be so sure tbh. I think there's some promise there, we'll see.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:35:05 PM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.

do you think so?  in post posts enthusing about him running the channels i was specifically gonna say he doesn't have bellamy's pace :lol:

slightly different point you're making though, granted

I think he just looked incredibly sharp. Seems to read the game really well, so he looked to be anticipating where the ball would go and was already up to speed by the time it got there. Don't think he's Bellamy quick, but it's night and day between him and Perez. Loved to see him pointing and telling Atsu/Rondon where to move to as well, seems like a great character.

:thup: Spot on that Rich, he might not have Bellamy's speed over distance, but he does look very sharp and able to run the channels, I hope it's not a false dawn, but from that little cameo, he looks like he could definitely add a new dimension to our play.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:37:27 PM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.

do you think so?  in post posts enthusing about him running the channels i was specifically gonna say he doesn't have bellamy's pace :lol:

slightly different point you're making though, granted

I think he just looked incredibly sharp. Seems to read the game really well, so he looked to be anticipating where the ball would go and was already up to speed by the time it got there. Don't think he's Bellamy quick, but it's night and day between him and Perez. Loved to see him pointing and telling Atsu/Rondon where to move to as well, seems like a great character.

:thup: Spot on that Rich, he might not have Bellamy's speed over distance, but he does look very sharp and able to run the channels, I hope it's not a false dawn, but from that little cameo, he looks like he could definitely add a new dimension to our play.

worth bearing in mind he was up against top 6 defenders as well as opposed to bottom half cloggers
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:21:14 PM
The speed of this guy when pressing. Bellamy-esque.

do you think so?  in post posts enthusing about him running the channels i was specifically gonna say he doesn't have bellamy's pace

slightly different point you're making though, granted

I think he just looked incredibly sharp. Seems to read the game really well, so he looked to be anticipating where the ball would go and was already up to speed by the time it got there. Don't think he's Bellamy quick, but it's night and day between him and Perez. Loved to see him pointing and telling Atsu/Rondon where to move to as well, seems like a great character.
:thup: Think he's going to be massive for us like.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: louistoon on Sunday 12 August 2018, 03:16:19 PM
We're turning Japanese,
I think we're turning Japanese,
'Cos we've got Mutō.
tune ?

Turning Japanese by the vapors surely.

 :lol: Yep. What else would it possibly be?

Someone put yellow submarine above :lol: I was meant to quote that message as well.

That woosh smiley still lying around anywhere...
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 16 August 2018, 09:23:09 AM
https://nufcdigital.co.uk/2018/08/player-profile-yoshinori-muto/
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: John P on Thursday 16 August 2018, 09:29:36 AM
Got a good feeling about this guy. Working his arse off will endear him to fans anyway, but I think he could surprise us with his quality too.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 16 August 2018, 09:35:47 AM
:thup: Not sure how he's going to fit in, with Kenedy and Rondon probably being 2 of our best players, I suspect we might see him rotated with Perez?

Love the fact we have a Japanese player, especially one called Yoshi.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: chopey on Thursday 16 August 2018, 09:54:48 AM
I think he could play with Perez if Rondon was the focal point.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 16 August 2018, 09:59:04 AM
He might be able to play up front himself at times, we don't necessarily need a target man type.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 16 August 2018, 10:30:45 AM
We were at our best last year when we didnt tbh.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 16 August 2018, 10:35:27 AM
Even though Joselu did well last game I'd prefer Perez behind Muto until Rondon is match fit.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Odear on Thursday 16 August 2018, 11:36:20 AM
Maybe if Muto is playing up top, we might play it along the ground a bit more.

I can see him linking up really well with Kenedy.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 16 August 2018, 12:45:16 PM
Even though Joselu did well last game I'd prefer Perez behind Muto until Rondon is match fit.

:thup:

I know people are thinking that we are reliant on Joselu/Rondon's target man qualities in order to progress up the pitch, but I'd counter that with the fact we spent most of last season playing Gayle up front and did okay all things considered. I'd be very keen to see how the movement of Muto & Perez could work together to create spaces for the likes of Kenedy to exploit.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:42:57 PM
This guy is going to be sensational.

Big reason why we still competed so well with 10 men.

Fantastic defensive contribution and just buzzes abou the place when we go forward.

Really good play to get us the penalty at the end too.

Can't wait for him to be in from the start with Rondon.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:43:49 PM
You must be more observant than me, I barely noticed he was on :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:44:30 PM
I know Muto is handsome but Kaka has a pure man crush on him
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: triggs on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:45:54 PM
Calm down Kaka man, he barely did anything bar win the penalty :lol: Not the game to judge him on mind
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:48:23 PM
He won the ball so much, no?! Thought he was good!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: LRD on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:48:55 PM
He's definitely not lightweight like Ayoze is. Reasonable strength and can hold his own from what we have seen.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:49:13 PM
Calm down Kaka man, he barely did anything bar win the penalty :lol: Not the game to judge him on mind
exactly this

Worst type of game for him to come in to though
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:49:59 PM
He won the ball so much, no?! Thought he was good!

He looked good in his Spurs cameo. Didn't do anything particularly wrong today just didn't really see much of the play in the 20 minutes he was on. He looks more physical than Perez though which I like about him.

I'm with you, he will be a good player for us I feel.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:50:27 PM
He's a second or two behind the play, as you'd expect, but he looks well matched physically. Loves a channel!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Skeletor on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:51:18 PM
Would have had an assist today if Kenedy could take a penalty. Maybe he can take a better penalty.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:52:52 PM
Won a pen which should have won us the game. Can't really argue with that in an awful team performance.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: hakka on Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:53:00 PM
He looks lively but can't beat 3 defenders and make things happen on his own. Needs support up front.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Saturday 18 August 2018, 03:31:56 PM
Won the pen. I like him, from the little I've seen. But Rondon should've went on instead. Muto is not the player to hoof to.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 18 August 2018, 03:35:42 PM
I'd like to think over the next 3-4 games our front two evolves to Muto and Rondon up front one way or another.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Collage on Saturday 18 August 2018, 05:26:40 PM
I'd like to think over the next 3-4 games our front two evolves to Muto and Rondon up front one way or another.

Hopefully, yes.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Lenny on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 04:38:44 PM
There was a moment in the second half where he was chasing a man back on the left flank and looked surprisingly slow.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: dabe on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 04:40:39 PM
There was a moment in the second half where he was chasing a man back on the left flank and looked surprisingly slow.

Got rinsed by Hoilett (I'm hoping it was him and not Zohore or a clogger RB) if memory serves. Wouldn't expect him to be quicker tbh.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 04:49:02 PM
It was Mendez-Laing IIRC. The guy who looked like a tank.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: greydos on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 05:12:27 PM
It was Mendez-Laing IIRC. The guy who looked like a tank.

I was at the game on that side of the pitch. This is right
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Lenny on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 07:03:22 PM
:thup: I was just a little surprised at how significantly outpaced he was.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 07:06:38 PM
More good news.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 07:10:26 PM
Huh?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 21 August 2018, 07:11:03 PM
That he's slow as s***. I was just being sarcy.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 25 August 2018, 01:56:09 PM
Quote
Yoshinori Muto has revealed he rejected an approach from Chelsea before signing for Newcastle United this summer as he did not want to be shunted out on loan by the London club.

Muto was approached by Chelsea two years ago, when he was playing for Mainz in Germany, but elected to remain in the Bundesliga so that he would continue to play regular first team football at a club that valued his development.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/24/yoshinori-muto-says-turned-chelsea-two-years-ago-summer-move/
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 25 August 2018, 03:49:28 PM
Lad's got some brains about him then.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 25 August 2018, 04:46:23 PM
Turned em down cos he hates Dennis Wise
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Si on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 07:58:19 PM
It's probably been said already but got to be some mileage in "Muto Muto Man, I want to be Muto maaan."

https://youtu.be/wOsWfzzvlkU
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:36:04 PM
Looks like pub footballer in this match.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:36:18 PM
a
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:36:48 PM
Him not bringing the ball down at the end of the half there was the only glaring thing he did especially badly, imo.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:37:29 PM
Looks like pub footballer in this match.

We aren't getting the ball to him so hard to tell.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:40:59 PM
I thought he looked good.

Doesn't help he's picked up the Newcastle curse of skinning his man, being obviously hacked down and the ref just laughing and carrying on mind.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:41:08 PM
Lovely smile
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: NEEJ on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:43:25 PM
He needs to change his boots and he'll be fine.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:43:59 PM
Looks all puff and no substance so far.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:45:09 PM
Looks all puff and no substance so far.

Not sure, he's always looking to make something happen imo. Some nice passes in the final 3rd and a willingness to get in behind/beat a man. Decent showing.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:47:39 PM
Looks all puff and no substance so far.

Not sure, he's always looking to make something happen imo. Some nice passes in the final 3rd and a willingness to get in behind/beat a man. Decent showing.

You are probably right. It’s always hard for a striker to shine in the way we play. They just end up running all over without ever getting any real chances to shine or actually attack. Would hate to be a forward for us in this team/system.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:48:03 PM
Looks all puff and no substance so far.

Not sure, he's always looking to make something happen imo. Some nice passes in the final 3rd and a willingness to get in behind/beat a man. Decent showing.

That's how I'm seeing it. Needs far more going on around him to capitalise on the movement.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:50:57 PM
Looks all puff and no substance so far.

Not sure, he's always looking to make something happen imo. Some nice passes in the final 3rd and a willingness to get in behind/beat a man. Decent showing.

You are probably right. It’s always hard for a striker to shine in the way we play. They just end up running all over without ever getting any real chances to shine or actually attack. Would hate to be a forward for us in this team/system.

That much is certainly true. I find it the same with Perez which is why I always air on the side of positivity with him as I think he has a thankless task in this set up for the most part and does a decent job.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Bimpy474 on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 08:54:06 PM
Think he's been decent in his first start in English football.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 29 August 2018, 09:05:27 PM
Can't judge him too harsh, there is nothing creatively in this team.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 30 August 2018, 09:04:49 AM
Can see what he will bring, reckon he will be useful once up and running.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: steve_69 on Thursday 30 August 2018, 09:07:54 AM
Holds onto the ball for far too long but that's probably a hangover from playing in less frenetic leagues with less pace to the games, plus not being familiar with the movement of his new teammates.
His movement is good and he looks like a clever player as well. Give him a bit more time with Rafa and i reckon he'll be class.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: thenige on Thursday 30 August 2018, 09:25:01 AM
Really hope he'll turn out to be amazing, but have this horrible feeling he'll be consigned to the bin of expensive foreign players who don't end up doing very much.

The likes of Maric, Andersson and Luque await you Muto! Escape whilst you can. Please.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 30 August 2018, 09:32:04 AM
It's a thankless task being a forward for us. Far too much work in other areas and not enough chances to get in the box and score. Nothing being created and basically just chasing balls blasted up the pitch for them. All they need to do is be able to run after shadows. Such a shame as we always seem to write off our strikers, but we never really see what they can do as actual strikers with service. (Suppose Mitrovic is a case in point of letting a striker do what a striker needs to do and he will score you goals)
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 30 August 2018, 09:35:34 AM
Not having that - we created plenty last year, we missed so many opportunities.

This year has been a rough start but it's early days and we'll come out of it.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ED209 on Thursday 30 August 2018, 09:56:55 AM
Really hope he'll turn out to be amazing, but have this horrible feeling he'll be consigned to the bin of expensive foreign players who don't end up doing very much.

The likes of Maric, Andersson and Luque await you Muto! Escape whilst you can. Please.

Except he isn't expensive in the grand scheme of things, he's only expensive in the NUFC world of penny pinching.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Menace on Thursday 30 August 2018, 10:05:55 AM
Messi would've looked s**** yesterday - I remain hopeful.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 30 August 2018, 10:46:59 AM
This guy wasn't given a thing by the Ref. He was kicked off the park for most of the night.

Still hopeful he'll have a positive impact.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tubestationatmidnight on Thursday 30 August 2018, 11:02:13 AM
Messi would've looked s**** yesterday - I remain hopeful.

Rafa even said he wasn't bothered about the performance. I don't know why people are judging anything on that last night as the club and Rafa himself basically said they aren't bothered about cup games
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 30 August 2018, 11:05:19 AM
Where did Rafa say he wasn't bothered about the performance?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 30 August 2018, 11:22:07 AM
He was so bad yesterday, i really hope its a lesson to him about his tough it's going to be, hopefully it's only up from here.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Disco on Thursday 30 August 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Seems to be copping a lot of flack. The pixelated Japanese c***.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: HTT on Thursday 30 August 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Needs to get himself to SD and get some proper boots with proper studs. Good movement I thought, but light weight.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 30 August 2018, 09:38:06 PM
Alongside the Gladiator, the Samurai will certainly rise ... just a matter of time now.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Sunday 16 September 2018, 02:51:58 PM
Alongside the Gladiator, the Samurai will certainly rise ... just a matter of time now.

We're nearly two months into the season now, hopefully he might be ready before Christmas. If he can't get a start ahead of Joselu when Rondon's out you have to wonder if he's going to figure much at all. I would have liked to see him against Arsenal, they are probably the sort of defensively frail side he could have had some joy against.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 17 September 2018, 08:21:30 AM
Alongside the Gladiator, the Samurai will certainly rise ... just a matter of time now.

We're nearly two months into the season now, hopefully he might be ready before Christmas. If he can't get a start ahead of Joselu when Rondon's out you have to wonder if he's going to figure much at all. I would have liked to see him against Arsenal, they are probably the sort of defensively frail side he could have had some joy against.

Having seen him a few times now, it seems clear that Muto isn't what Rafa's looking for in a #9 and is going to deploy him in the next line (#7, #10 or #11). He hasn't shown enough to displace any of the players starting in those positions yet either. Here's hoping he does before too long...
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: geordiedean on Monday 17 September 2018, 01:00:19 PM
Another complete waste of money on a player that is hardly going to feature much like the 12m spunked on Murphy
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tooj on Monday 17 September 2018, 01:44:22 PM
Dear me.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: huss9 on Monday 17 September 2018, 01:53:15 PM
new league, new country, new language, s*** team, joselu.

howay, give him a chance.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Conjo on Monday 17 September 2018, 01:53:47 PM
Another complete waste of money on a player that is hardly going to feature much like the 12m spunked on Murphy

 :hunter:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: geordiedean on Monday 17 September 2018, 02:06:54 PM
new league, new country, new language, s*** team, joselu.

howay, give him a chance.

ah the old football excuses, these don't wash with me at all he's paid to play football and that is a universal language if the lad cant get in ahead of f***ing Joselu then what hope has he got of featuring much this season

Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Monday 17 September 2018, 02:08:01 PM
Another complete waste of money on a player that is hardly going to feature much like the 12m spunked on Murphy

 :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Conjo on Monday 17 September 2018, 02:10:04 PM
ah the old football clichées
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Willow on Monday 17 September 2018, 02:10:20 PM
He's just telling like it is guys...
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Disco on Monday 17 September 2018, 02:10:40 PM
Hasn't featured = featured in all 6 match day squads.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Monday 17 September 2018, 02:38:49 PM
Alongside the Gladiator, the Samurai will certainly rise ... just a matter of time now.

We're nearly two months into the season now, hopefully he might be ready before Christmas. If he can't get a start ahead of Joselu when Rondon's out you have to wonder if he's going to figure much at all. I would have liked to see him against Arsenal, they are probably the sort of defensively frail side he could have had some joy against.

Having seen him a few times now, it seems clear that Muto isn't what Rafa's looking for in a #9 and is going to deploy him in the next line (#7, #10 or #11). He hasn't shown enough to displace any of the players starting in those positions yet either. Here's hoping he does before too long...

It's Perez who is probably in front of him at the moment in that case, and he's not in great form either. That dawdling on the ball in the first half when he should have released Ritchie is becoming a trademark. I like Ayoze but he gets caught on the ball far too often.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: nortoon on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:12:06 PM
He just seems so average. A bit of pace and that's it. I'm strongly starting to suspect we signed him and Ki just to sell more sports direct crap in Asia.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:24:15 PM
Another complete waste of money on a player that is hardly going to feature much like the 12m spunked on Murphy

:lol: Dear me.

A late signing, new to the league, new to the country and he hasn't started in some of the toughest fixtures we could have?

Shoot him now.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Menace on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:26:05 PM
Should stick to Hentai and not football, the c***.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:28:40 PM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: geordiedean on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:33:53 PM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch

its always the excuse new league new country new language its bullshit if youre a decent player you can play whether its England, China or Timbuktu its football its not applied brain surgery

Tino Asprilla turned in a man of the match performance against Boro after stepping off a flight from Colombia only a couple of hours earlier

Everyone seems to make excuses these days for our players ineptness
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Conjo on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:36:03 PM
Different era, different team, different type of player.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:51:26 PM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch

its always the excuse new league new country new language its bullshit if youre a decent player you can play whether its England, China or Timbuktu its football its not applied brain surgery

Tino Asprilla turned in a man of the match performance against Boro after stepping off a flight from Colombia only a couple of hours earlier

Everyone seems to make excuses these days for our players ineptness
If Muto is "inept" after four second half substitute appearances in the league, I do not know what we will call you for posting rubbish day after day for interminable amounts of time.

I agree that it does seem like he is in contention with Perez and the wingers for playing time, rather than Rondon and Joselu. I am not sure, if Rafa is trying to get him to adjust to the league before putting him upfront alone, or if this is how he intended to use him when the purchase was made.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ElDiablo on Monday 17 September 2018, 03:53:47 PM
Start this c***. I need a break from watching Perez run down blind alleys.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: huss9 on Monday 17 September 2018, 04:02:51 PM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch

its always the excuse new league new country new language its bullshit if youre a decent player you can play whether its England, China or Timbuktu its football its not applied brain surgery

Tino Asprilla turned in a man of the match performance against Boro after stepping off a flight from Colombia only a couple of hours earlier

Everyone seems to make excuses these days for our players ineptness

f*** me man, tino stepped off the plane to play for the best team in england having just played with an italian legend for one of the top teams in europe at the time!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Monday 17 September 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Another complete waste of money on a player that is hardly going to feature much like the 12m spunked on Murphy

:lol: Dear me.

A late signing, new to the league, new to the country and he hasn't started in some of the toughest fixtures we could have?

Shoot him now.
He's played 56 minutes of PL football, all of which have came from the bench against Tottenham, Cardiff (in which he won the penalty), Chelsea and Arsenal.

f*** him off, he's s****.

:lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: geordiedean on Monday 17 September 2018, 04:17:37 PM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch

its always the excuse new league new country new language its bullshit if youre a decent player you can play whether its England, China or Timbuktu its football its not applied brain surgery

Tino Asprilla turned in a man of the match performance against Boro after stepping off a flight from Colombia only a couple of hours earlier

Everyone seems to make excuses these days for our players ineptness

f*** me man, tino stepped off the plane to play for the best team in england having just played with an italian legend for one of the top teams in europe at the time!

Youre missing the point about it all people saying he needs to settle new country new language blah blah blah. If I went and had to work in the middle east in my industry for 6 to 12 months do you think I could use the same excuses for not performing in my job the same way I done it here in the US....I think not
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: loki679 on Monday 17 September 2018, 04:20:23 PM
I just can't believe we've managed to find a less likeable Crumpy.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: geordiedean on Monday 17 September 2018, 04:26:35 PM
I just can't believe we've managed to find a less likeable Crumpy.

Thanks appreciate it
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 17 September 2018, 06:00:37 PM
Good luck with trying to speak Arabic fluently in 6 months.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Altamullan on Monday 17 September 2018, 06:48:36 PM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch

its always the excuse new league new country new language its bullshit if youre a decent player you can play whether its England, China or Timbuktu its football its not applied brain surgery

Tino Asprilla turned in a man of the match performance against Boro after stepping off a flight from Colombia only a couple of hours earlier

Everyone seems to make excuses these days for our players ineptness
Just thought of a solution. Cocaine. Muto needs to get wide (allegedly).
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: jackyboy on Monday 17 September 2018, 06:50:13 PM
I think Tino was better than Joselu as well
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 17 September 2018, 09:20:26 PM
Klopp on Fabinho.

https://youtu.be/TXNmM73uyXk?t=98
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 22 September 2018, 10:23:34 AM
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 22 September 2018, 11:17:21 AM


i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch

its always the excuse new league new country new language its bullshit if youre a decent player you can play whether its England, China or Timbuktu its football its not applied brain surgery

Tino Asprilla turned in a man of the match performance against Boro after stepping off a flight from Colombia only a couple of hours earlier

Everyone seems to make excuses these days for our players ineptness

f*** me man, tino stepped off the plane to play for the best team in england having just played with an italian legend for one of the top teams in europe at the time!

Youre missing the point about it all people saying he needs to settle new country new language blah blah blah. If I went and had to work in the middle east in my industry for 6 to 12 months do you think I could use the same excuses for not performing in my job the same way I done it here in the US....I think not

You ever worked abroad and learned a second language? Or a first language for that matter.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: wormy on Saturday 22 September 2018, 11:23:13 AM


i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch

its always the excuse new league new country new language its bullshit if youre a decent player you can play whether its England, China or Timbuktu its football its not applied brain surgery

Tino Asprilla turned in a man of the match performance against Boro after stepping off a flight from Colombia only a couple of hours earlier

Everyone seems to make excuses these days for our players ineptness

f*** me man, tino stepped off the plane to play for the best team in england having just played with an italian legend for one of the top teams in europe at the time!

Youre missing the point about it all people saying he needs to settle new country new language blah blah blah. If I went and had to work in the middle east in my industry for 6 to 12 months do you think I could use the same excuses for not performing in my job the same way I done it here in the US....I think not

You ever worked abroad and learned a second language? Or a first language for that matter.

:lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 22 September 2018, 12:19:32 PM
Saying people should stop making excuses for Muto not hitting the ground running because Tino was an instant hit. Howay man. :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: biggs on Saturday 22 September 2018, 06:16:29 PM
Really think he should start instead of Perez as he simply gives the ball away in promising positions constantly ,does Rafa not trust him ?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Shearergol on Saturday 22 September 2018, 06:35:36 PM
Really think he should start instead of Perez as he simply gives the ball away in promising positions constantly ,does Rafa not trust him ?

Like 4 posts up where Rafa says he’s not a number 10?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Saturday 22 September 2018, 06:42:36 PM


Not quite ready yet then, but getting closer.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Greg on Saturday 22 September 2018, 06:43:58 PM
Really think he should start instead of Perez as he simply gives the ball away in promising positions constantly ,does Rafa not trust him ?

Like 4 posts up where Rafa says he’s not a number 10?

Perez isn't a number 10 either, not does he play that role in the current setup. So its a moot point.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 22 September 2018, 06:51:54 PM
Really think he should start instead of Perez as he simply gives the ball away in promising positions constantly ,does Rafa not trust him ?

Like 4 posts up where Rafa says he’s not a number 10?

Perez isn't a number 10 either, not does he play that role in the current setup. So its a moot point.
Has Rafa said Perez isn't a number 10?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Saturday 22 September 2018, 07:56:05 PM
Perez works like a trojan, he closes down the opposition and tracks back. Rafa obviously puts a lot of stock in that and that must be why Perez and Joselu are still playing ahead of the new signings.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: biggs on Saturday 22 September 2018, 07:59:26 PM
Really think he should start instead of Perez as he simply gives the ball away in promising positions constantly ,does Rafa not trust him ?

Like 4 posts up where Rafa says he’s not a number 10?

Perez isn't a number 10 either, not does he play that role in the current setup. So its a moot point.
Has Rafa said Perez isn't a number 10?
Perez had a good run back end of last season been awful this season most of the time and Rafa has played players out of position too and have a look at the Perez thread for others thoughts on said subject
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 22 September 2018, 10:26:02 PM
Really think he should start instead of Perez as he simply gives the ball away in promising positions constantly ,does Rafa not trust him ?

Like 4 posts up where Rafa says he’s not a number 10?

Perez isn't a number 10 either, not does he play that role in the current setup. So its a moot point.
Has Rafa said Perez isn't a number 10?
Perez had a good run back end of last season been awful this season most of the time and Rafa has played players out of position too and have a look at the Perez thread for others thoughts on said subject
I was sort of agreeing with you tbh. Just asking Greg whether Rafa's mentioned Perez not being a number 10, because if he's said that, there's no reason Muto can't replace Perez.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Greg on Saturday 22 September 2018, 10:27:17 PM
Really think he should start instead of Perez as he simply gives the ball away in promising positions constantly ,does Rafa not trust him ?

Like 4 posts up where Rafa says he’s not a number 10?

Perez isn't a number 10 either, not does he play that role in the current setup. So its a moot point.
Has Rafa said Perez isn't a number 10?
Perez had a good run back end of last season been awful this season most of the time and Rafa has played players out of position too and have a look at the Perez thread for others thoughts on said subject
I was sort of agreeing with you tbh. Just asking Greg whether Rafa's mentioned Perez not being a number 10, because if he's said that, there's no reason Muto can't replace Perez.
Not that I'm aware of and I agree, I think Muto could do a job there. It's not a conventional playmaker number 10 in our set up (we can't afford one).
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 22 September 2018, 10:34:50 PM
He's not a number 10 and Perez is not a number 10 and nobody is a number 10.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 22 September 2018, 10:36:55 PM
Number 10 isn't a necessary position to have on your team anyway. Our best teams in the last decade have always been 433.

Anyway - I liked him when he came on today. He offered an outlet, but we just play far far too deep for any attacking player to make an impact.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 22 September 2018, 10:44:13 PM
Number 10 isn't a necessary position to have on your team anyway. Our best teams in the last decade have always been 433.

Anyway - I liked him when he came on today. He offered an outlet, but we just play far far too deep for any attacking player to make an impact.

It is if you play a formation like ours, especially when Rafa wont change it.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 22 September 2018, 11:17:52 PM
He's not a number 10 and Perez is not a number 10 and nobody is a number 10.
Diame is our no 10.
Just look at the back of his shirt...😉
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Sunday 23 September 2018, 11:56:34 AM
Number 10 isn't a necessary position to have on your team anyway. Our best teams in the last decade have always been 433.

Anyway - I liked him when he came on today. He offered an outlet, but we just play far far too deep for any attacking player to make an impact.

It is if you play a formation like ours, especially when Rafa wont change it.

Not if your wide players are doing the business, which they aren't. Last season we had Kenedy tearing it up on one side, if we had more pace and quality on both wings - and up front for that matter - I doubt we'd be talking about shirt numbers so much.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 29 September 2018, 01:13:18 AM
He's too soft and can't speak English well enough apparently

11:21 - https://www.nufc.co.uk/nufc-tv/latest-videos/benitez-pre-leicester-h-media-briefing-18-19
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 29 September 2018, 07:41:41 AM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch
Does Salah count? Firmino? De Gea? Pires? Vidic?
Lucas Moura was quiet before the end of last season.
Off the top of my head.
There's loads man
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 29 September 2018, 07:44:44 AM
Think there was a sight touch if sarcasm in the quoted post.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 29 September 2018, 07:55:42 AM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch
Does Salah count? Firmino? De Gea? Pires? Vidic?
Lucas Moura was quiet before the end of last season.
Off the top of my head.
There's loads man
:pokerface:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Shearergol on Saturday 29 September 2018, 08:00:12 AM
He’ll be gone next summer, out on loan for a couple of seasons then sold for £6m
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Toonjam88 on Saturday 29 September 2018, 08:26:06 AM
He’ll be gone next summer, out on loan for a couple of seasons then sold for £6m
I reckon he will be good just needs a chance.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: 1964 on Saturday 29 September 2018, 08:27:41 AM
i'm with geordiedean myself, i can't think of a single other case in the history of top flight football in this country where a foreign player that didn't settle immediately went on to be a success

none, nada, ziltch
Does Salah count? Firmino? De Gea? Pires? Vidic?
Lucas Moura was quiet before the end of last season.
Off the top of my head.
There's loads man
And one of the greatest players ever to grace British football, Dennis Bergkamp
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: reefatoon on Saturday 29 September 2018, 09:06:15 AM
That’s a list of really good players, not average ones.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 29 September 2018, 09:29:25 AM
Debuchy took about 6 months then was class.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 29 September 2018, 09:33:26 AM
Same with Jose Enrique
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Toonjam88 on Saturday 29 September 2018, 09:34:07 AM
He is a very intelligent bloke so will listen to Rafa and take things on board and make changes so that has to be a big plus. There are a lot of footballers who are thick as f*** and never learn no matter how many times coaches try to show them something different.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 29 September 2018, 09:34:28 AM
Coloccini too.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Stottie on Saturday 29 September 2018, 01:00:17 PM
Muto and Perez might be a good shout today. Leicester are big but not blessed with speed.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: covmag on Saturday 29 September 2018, 01:03:28 PM
Muto and Perez might be a good shout today. Leicester are big but not blessed with speed.

i'd be amazed if its not Hoss and Perez, the dream team
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: dabe on Saturday 6 October 2018, 05:43:50 PM
Most striker's instinct I've seen from any of our players in a long while, hope it continues, industrious little f***er.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 6 October 2018, 06:01:08 PM
Looks like he can football.  Which is unusual for a striker in a Newcastle United shirt these days.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Si on Saturday 6 October 2018, 06:03:53 PM
How good is this f***er.....
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 6 October 2018, 06:19:16 PM
Looks very sharp indeed.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Jordan on Saturday 6 October 2018, 06:22:31 PM
Really like the look of him
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 6 October 2018, 06:27:13 PM
POTY
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Saturday 6 October 2018, 08:22:36 PM
He has to start from now on.  And make sure that absolute melt Perez is nowhere near the squad either.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: St1pe on Saturday 6 October 2018, 08:24:33 PM
He has to start from now on.  And make sure that absolute melt Perez is nowhere near the squad either.

Thought the movement between Muto, Perez and Kenedy was one of the more obvious positives from that game.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 6 October 2018, 08:26:49 PM
Also, he worked hard today. Really good. Not Joselu levels of doing f*** all but he's a nice guy so we'll pretend he worked hard, he actually worked.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 6 October 2018, 08:28:16 PM
He has to start from now on.  And make sure that absolute melt Perez is nowhere near the squad either.

Thought the movement between Muto, Perez and Kenedy was one of the more obvious positives from that game.

Yep.

We played our best football last year with a quick striker alongside Perez and did so today. Shelvey plays better with players making runs rather than aiming for a target man
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Bimpy474 on Saturday 6 October 2018, 08:41:50 PM
Movement, clever play, closing down the defenders and deep midfielders, Rafa type of striker all day long.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Dave on Saturday 6 October 2018, 08:45:53 PM
Looked good. Should have scored that header though.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: FustinoSolano on Saturday 6 October 2018, 10:34:03 PM
Let's just play this lad every game from now on, saw more in today's game from him than I'll see in 10 years watching Joselu.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mickthemagpie on Saturday 6 October 2018, 10:47:06 PM
Let's just play this lad every game from now on, saw more in today's game from him than I'll see in 10 years watching Joselu.

This.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Mattoon on Saturday 6 October 2018, 10:51:17 PM
Hopefully he stays injury free and gains some fitness, early doors but looks our most promising player in attack at the moment!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Disco on Saturday 6 October 2018, 10:52:21 PM
Another complete waste of money on a player that is hardly going to feature much like the 12m spunked on Murphy

:thup:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 7 October 2018, 02:32:57 AM
Could control and pass, and scored  :yikes:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Andy on Sunday 7 October 2018, 08:37:57 AM
A player like this is far more effective in Rafa's system than immobile players like Mitrovic, Rondon and Joselu. He offers similar movement and link-up play to Gayle, whose presence improved our performances last season even if he wasn't scoring.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 7 October 2018, 08:38:47 AM
got to start ahead of joselu from now on with perez, got to
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: morla84 on Sunday 7 October 2018, 09:00:29 AM
Somehow I think Joselu will be back for Brighton
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: tinoasprilla on Sunday 7 October 2018, 10:00:28 AM
Really like him needs to be in the team every week and should have been in before now
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sugoinufc on Tuesday 9 October 2018, 12:23:05 PM
Muto suki desu  :smitten:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 9 October 2018, 05:49:58 PM
Great first touch and close control. Honestly he held it up better just using his feet than Joselu or Rondon have trying to "battle" in the air so far this season.


Also with him we stopped just punting it and looked better for it.

We need to just ditch target men, they don't work for us.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 9 October 2018, 06:26:26 PM
That's me convinced Mutu in Salah out on dream team
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 9 October 2018, 07:06:06 PM
Great first touch and close control. Honestly he held it up better just using his feet than Joselu or Rondon have trying to "battle" in the air so far this season.


Also with him we stopped just punting it and looked better for it.

We need to just ditch target men, they don't work for us.

Holding it up on the ground is obviosuly always a much higher percentage play. Even the best target men only control a long ball about 15% of the time*.

*Actual percentage may be miles different.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Tuesday 9 October 2018, 07:08:27 PM
Great first touch and close control. Honestly he held it up better just using his feet than Joselu or Rondon have trying to "battle" in the air so far this season.


Also with him we stopped just punting it and looked better for it.

We need to just ditch target men, they don't work for us.

Holding it up on the ground is obviosuly always a much higher percentage play. Even the best target men only control a long ball about 15% of the time*.

*Actual percentage may be miles different.

It's so obvious that Muto is at least 900%* better than Perez or Josepu.

*Actual percentage probably true.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Saturday 20 October 2018, 05:34:31 PM
Was he booed off or Joselu booed on? Either way, we have some of the worst fans in the world if what I heard on Telly were indeed boos.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 20 October 2018, 05:35:17 PM
Was he booed off or Joselu booed on? Either way, we have some of the worst fans in the world if what I heard on Telly were indeed boos.

Was it not more to do with the fact it should have been Perez?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Saturday 20 October 2018, 05:36:30 PM
Was he booed off or Joselu booed on? Either way, we have some of the worst fans in the world if what I heard on Telly were indeed boos.

Was it not more to do with the fact it should have been Perez?

So fans now express sub opinions by proxy via booing? 😂 Not doubting you, the whole atmosphere is insane.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 20 October 2018, 05:56:55 PM
Was he booed off or Joselu booed on? Either way, we have some of the worst fans in the world if what I heard on Telly were indeed boos.

Was it not more to do with the fact it should have been Perez?

aye
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Saturday 20 October 2018, 06:34:34 PM
I think the goal against Man U showed what he is all about. He needs the ball to his feet in the penalty area which isn't happening much since we don't manage to get it in those areas much over 90 mins. 
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Dave on Saturday 3 November 2018, 08:27:05 PM
Why was he subbed in injury time at the end of the first half? Couldn't we continue for a minute?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 3 November 2018, 08:29:58 PM
Is he soft this bloke? Seems to go down all the time.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Saturday 3 November 2018, 08:33:36 PM
I would have liked to see him go 90 mins with Rondon, I can see his movement working well off the big man once they click.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Ikon on Sunday 11 November 2018, 09:26:21 AM
Any idea how long he is out for? I kinda like the look of him so far. Seems to be an intelligent player who evaluates play pretty well. Early days but I think he'll prove to be a handy player for us within time. A bit interested to see him play with Ki in the team. Ki likes to keep it fluid.

And what Tron said, more game time with Rondon.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 11 November 2018, 09:37:17 AM
I would have liked to see him go 90 mins with Rondon, I can see his movement working well off the big man once they click.

what i like about him ahead of perez is his ability to carry the ball forward on his own...not only that of course, but we're often sitting with a gap between the striker(s) and rest of the team so it's important to have a player in our system that can transition it and hold it a bit better than perez often does
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 1 December 2018, 05:13:00 PM
Come back pls m8
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 2 December 2018, 09:48:57 AM
Come back pls m8

injury came at such a crap time, he was just settling in and offers so much more than perez in his all round game :/
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: thenige on Monday 21 January 2019, 02:03:40 PM
Can't wait until he comes back.

LIKE A NEW SIGNING.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 22 January 2019, 08:50:24 AM
Come back pls m8

injury came at such a crap time, he was just settling in and offers so much more than perez in his all round game :/

Could he play the Atsu role in this set up? Ritchie and Yedlin as wing-backs with him and Perez supporting Rondon?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Sho'Time on Tuesday 22 January 2019, 09:30:15 AM
On current form I probably wouldn't drop Atsu tbf.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 28 January 2019, 05:40:43 PM
Probably going to be an Asian Cup winner on friday.

Will be back for Wolves if he doesn't get injured.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 28 January 2019, 05:59:59 PM
Should be played on the left wing instead of Kenedy.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 28 January 2019, 06:01:39 PM
Should be played on the left wing instead of Kenedy.

If you mean in the Atsu role alongside Perez in our 3421 then aye, he can't play as an out and out winger though.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 28 January 2019, 06:04:08 PM
Says on some websites he can play as a winger, I think I have seen some clips of him creating goals from out wide.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Monday 28 January 2019, 07:14:45 PM
Like in all videogames, a couple of weeks of training as a winger and he'll have added "roaming flank" or "attacking winger" to his skillset.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Wallsendmag on Monday 28 January 2019, 07:19:34 PM
I'd genuinely forgotten about him until this thread popped up at the top of the board!
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: St1pe on Saturday 2 February 2019, 08:41:43 AM
Is it likely we’ll have him in the squad for Wolves given Japan lost in the final yesterday?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 2 February 2019, 08:45:49 AM
Might actually have some decent options off the bench in coming weeks with Muto & Almiron coming into the fold.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: samptime29 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 09:02:44 AM
Might actually have some decent options off the bench in coming weeks with Muto & Almiron coming into the fold.

We should have a fairly strong bench for Wolves.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sugoinufc on Saturday 2 February 2019, 09:06:48 AM
i like him...good option from the bench. Can cover 3-4 positions when coming on during 2nd halfs.

Good technique and pace  O0
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 9 February 2019, 12:58:28 PM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/miguel-almiron-newcastle-united-muto-15803281

Quote
Earlier in the season, Benitez admitted that he was reluctant to play Japan international Muto too often due to the striker's poor grasp English at the time.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 9 February 2019, 01:12:12 PM
Not being funny but you’d think that’s the sort of thing you’d look into when you’re signing the player.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 9 February 2019, 01:15:46 PM
Dont think kenedy spoke much English last season iirc
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 9 February 2019, 01:22:08 PM
Hope to see him a bit more often as one of the two behind Rondon in the coming weeks. Hope he’s a good player, like. Really haven’t seen enough of him to judge at this point.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 9 February 2019, 01:33:03 PM
As mentioned by Rafa, if a player speaks Spanish it isn't such a problem as a lot of our players and staff speak Spanish. Japanese (and German if Muto speaks it) wouldn't be much use here.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 9 February 2019, 01:41:53 PM
Interesting what O.N. said, makes you wonder if he was a Benitez buy. He's definitely someone I'd like to see more of before judging but at the moment he doesn't appear anywhere near being considered a starter.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 9 February 2019, 02:48:52 PM
He's a good player who actually does well to close down/press and get into good positions - the new formation should do him world of good. Problem is - Almiron now in our squad, Ritchie potentially freed up to play more advanced, Perez is gotten into a great run of form, Atsu has come into his own as well.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: FustinoSolano on Sunday 10 February 2019, 02:47:39 PM
I actually keep forgetting about this guy, I keep rerunning the nightmare scenario of Rondon getting injured then just having the Jos as our only striker... then Muto finally pops into my head. He's shown glimpses of talent but seen nowhere near enough of him to make a call on how good he is.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 February 2019, 02:16:11 PM
Muto was pretty damn good versus Man United.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Sean on Monday 11 February 2019, 02:23:23 PM
Interesting what O.N. said, makes you wonder if he was a Benitez buy. He's definitely someone I'd like to see more of before judging but at the moment he doesn't appear anywhere near being considered a starter.

Would make sense that he was a 3rd/4th/last option, I mean it is the way we operate.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: thenige on Monday 11 February 2019, 02:39:40 PM
Has to be Rondon's backup over Joselu. Even if he's more suited to Perez's/Atsu's role.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Minhosa on Monday 11 February 2019, 03:00:26 PM
I'd like to see this;


                            Rondon

Perez                   Almiron                Muto

             Longstaff               Diame

BA Baracus                                       Yedlin
                   Lejeune         Schar


                          Dubravka
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 February 2019, 03:06:51 PM
Has to be Rondon's backup over Joselu. Even if he's more suited to Perez's/Atsu's role.

That's not how Rafa thinks though, if he thinks he needs a big target man up front, he's not going to pick Muto over Joselu. He hasn't even considered playing Perez as a lone striker, and he has shown some form in that role when he first came here.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 February 2019, 03:08:36 PM
Has to be Rondon's backup over Joselu. Even if he's more suited to Perez's/Atsu's role.

Granted we've not seen enough of him to evaluate either way, but I don't think there's anything to suggest he is.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 February 2019, 03:09:42 PM
Has to be Rondon's backup over Joselu. Even if he's more suited to Perez's/Atsu's role.

That's not how Rafa thinks though, if he thinks he needs a big target man up front, he's not going to pick Muto over Joselu. He hasn't even considered playing Perez as a lone striker, and he has shown some form in that role when he first came here.

He played Gayle up top on his own for the second half of last season, tbf. He likes variety.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 February 2019, 03:12:26 PM
Has to be Rondon's backup over Joselu. Even if he's more suited to Perez's/Atsu's role.

That's not how Rafa thinks though, if he thinks he needs a big target man up front, he's not going to pick Muto over Joselu. He hasn't even considered playing Perez as a lone striker, and he has shown some form in that role when he first came here.

He played Gayle up top on his own for the second half of last season, tbf. He likes variety.

I did qualify that by saying IF he needed a big centre forward. I think for Rafa to play a small forward up front, they would have to lead the line pretty well, and Gayle wasn't bad at that tbf. I haven't really seen much of Muto to be able to comment if he is up to it.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 February 2019, 07:05:49 PM
Beginning to get a Murphy 2.0 feeling here.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Collage on Monday 11 February 2019, 07:29:15 PM
This is a strange one considering it’s someone we had ”monitored” for a while, no? Fitness problems?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 February 2019, 07:33:45 PM
Language, supposedly. If he can't follow instructions he won't be in the team until he can.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 11 February 2019, 07:39:17 PM
Language, supposedly. If he can't follow instructions he won't be in the team until he can.

I don't know why bother signing him then.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 11 February 2019, 07:39:49 PM
He has no chance when Rafas secret love child is at the club. Joselu definitely has something on Rafa, it’s the only explanation on him getting anywhere near the team nevermind keeping other strikers out.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Hughesy on Monday 11 February 2019, 07:41:40 PM
Language, supposedly. If he can't follow instructions he won't be in the team until he can.

I don't know why bother signing him then.

Might have assumed he would acquire a working knowledge of the language in 8-9 months.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sbnufc on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 11:54:45 AM

f***ing hell he speaks better English than half the English players
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 12:01:24 PM
Still got a role to play between now and the end of the season. Making sure we never have to rely on Joselu.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 12:04:11 PM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/yoshinori-muto-newcastle-rafa-benitez-15993558

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Why Yoshinori Muto is struggling for gametime at Newcastle - and what he must do to change that

Newcastle United signed Yoshinori Muto from Mainz 05 for £9.5m last summer, but the striker has struggled for gametime since

By Chris Waugh
07:00, 19 MAR 2019

Yoshinori Muto needs to develop a greater understanding with his Newcastle United team-mates in order to earn regular gametime, Rafa Benitez has revealed.

The Japan international has started just five Premier League matches since signing from Mainz 05 for £9.5million last summer, and has played only 17 minutes of football for Newcastle this calendar year.

Yet the 26-year-old forward has seemingly forced himself ahead of Joselu in the striking pecking order at the moment, and he came on to play the final eight minutes of the Magpies' 2-2 draw against AFC Bournemouth at the Vitality Stadium on Saturday.

A succession of injuries, as well as his involvement in the Asian Cup in January, have prevented Muto from enjoying a seamless transition into English football, but Benitez has been impressed by his workrate both in training and during his fleeting appearances.

"Obviously he didn't have too much time, but we have two or three players who are training so well, and it is a pity that you cannot play them," Benitez replied when asked to assess Muto's cameo performance against the Cherries after the Japan forward replaced Ayoze Perez in the 82nd minute at the Vitality Stadium.

"When he came on he, as always, was working really hard, was chasing players, was running into the spaces, so it's what we were expecting from him."

Muto's solitary goal for Newcastle came during an impressive display at Old Trafford back in September, but he has found opportunities hard to come by in recent months.

His slow progress when it comes to learning English - he is improving in this department, but is still far from fluent - has affected his progress, while Muto has also taken time to adapt to the pace and physicality of the Premier League.

Miguel Almiron's arrival in January forced Muto further down the attacking pecking order - with Perez, Salomon Rondon, Christian Atsu and Kenedy among those competing for a place in the United XI.

And, while Muto is starting to communicate more effectively with his  team-mates, Benitez wants to see the forward develop a greater understanding with his fellow Magpies out on the pitch before he will be considered regularly for a starting berth.

"I think he's getting better in terms of the understanding with his team-mates because he is having English lessons, so he can communicate much better," Benitez added when pressed as to what Muto needed to do in order to earn greater gametime.

"Nobody ever worries about his workrate and how dynamic he is during games and training sessions.

"It's just for me to know that he knows about the other players around, and in this case Almiron came and is doing well, so Muto just has to carry on competing."

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/yoshinori-muto-admits-faces-uphill-15992916

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Yoshinori Muto admits he faces uphill task to get in team ahead of Rondon, Perez and Almiron - but makes goal pledge

Muto has scored just once since arriving from Mainz for £9.5million but is ready to show what he can do

By Lee Ryder
05:00, 19 MAR 2019

Yoshinori Muto admits he faces a battle to force his way into Newcastle United boss Rafa Benitez's starting XI - despite returning to the field for the first time in three months.

The Japan international returned from the Asian Cup in January and was told by Benitez to fight for his place.


With Salomon Rondon and Ayoze Perez in fine form, and linking up with Miguel Almiron, Muto is fortunate to get a place on the bench at the moment.

But he was afforded a cameo role against AFC Bournemouth at the weekend in the 2-2 draw at the Vitality Stadium.

Muto managed five touches in nine minutes on the South Coast as he played for United for the first time since the home game with Manchester United back on January 2.

Muto said: "I'm very happy. Finally, I could play on the pitch. I'm fully fit now yes.

"The competition is tough, Almiron, Rondon - everybody has been playing well.

"It's not easy to get my position again, but I have to keep working and focus on scoring."

Muto will be keen to top up his minutes in the next clash against Arsenal.

Looking forward to the game, Muto said: "I didn't score at Bournemouth so next game I want to score for the team.

"We have to keep working and we have to focus on the next game.

"It's been frustrating, yeah, sure and after the Asian Cup, I didn't play in the games. I was very frustrated, but I have worked very hard in training.

"Finally, I could play, but I'm not satisfied. I should keep working. I have to be positive and focus on the next game. I can play both - behind the striker and striker. It doesn't matter."
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 12:31:42 PM
He’s got the right attitude.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 01:41:46 PM
I’d be putting him in ahead of Atsu as the first back up for Perez & Almiron.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 01:47:40 PM
I’d be putting him in ahead of Atsu as the first back up for Perez & Almiron.

reckon he could have a good 2nd season personally, if rafa gets rondon or another similar quality striker
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sh74 on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 02:49:03 PM

f***ing hell he speaks better English than half the English players
he says ‘hard’ the same way as Rafa does.😂😂
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Menace on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 08:05:32 PM
He'll be gone in the summer
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 08:49:58 PM
He'll be gone in the summer

Aye I wouldn’t be surprised if we try and put Muto in some kind of deal back to Germany in the Summer.

We’ve apparently been scouting Sebastian Haller who only has 2 years left on his contract so Muto might be used in that kind of deal.

I think using the likes of Gayle, Murphy, Muto in deals for Rondon and Haller this Summer would give us a Top 10 strikeforce without having to spend a huge amount :thup:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 08:50:59 PM
Why would Haller come here?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 19 March 2019, 09:37:54 PM
Why would Haller come here?

It just looks likely he will move on in the Summer as he hasn’t extended his contract :thup:
Probably still on a relatively low wage as Frankfurt only payed around £5million for him from the Dutch league and he hasn’t extended so he won’t be on massive wages.

I think in terms of us Premier League football would be the huge attraction for him and the Top 6 won’t likely be a option for him.

Not surprised to read our interest in him very much a Rafa type focal point striker plays in the the same system for Frankfurt as we play.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 07:08:46 AM
f*** knows what this bloke must be thinking at the minute. Fair enough not being good enough for the first XI but to have Carroll & Gayle ahead of you must be demoralising.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: joeyt on Monday 28 October 2019, 07:36:07 AM
You really hate Gayle :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: La Parka on Monday 28 October 2019, 07:37:42 AM
Poor guy never got an actual chance. Almost every game something conspires against him.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 09:53:45 AM
You really hate Gayle :lol:

I don’t hate him, I hate ‘give him a chance’ s**** though when we know he’s not up to it. He was barely Premier League level to begin with and is looking less and less like it now. Yesterday was hilarious see him panting after a couple of minutes and trying and failing to pull one of their players back because he couldn’t keep up with him. If we can recoup what we paid for him from someone like Leeds in January we should be all over it.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Ian W on Monday 28 October 2019, 11:39:17 AM
Gayle’s the best striker at the club :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 28 October 2019, 11:42:23 AM
I keep forgetting he even plays for us. It's a pretty hilarious dilemma that Bruce has just no clue how to solve.

Use Joelinton as a support striker behind Gayle or Muto, see if that works as he clearly is not a natural #9.

Do so and break the Rafa system that the team are holding together on their own and watch it fall apart. :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Ian W on Monday 28 October 2019, 11:45:08 AM
I’d say Gayle has to start when fit, he’s the only person who might get anywhere near 10 goals.

I’ve only watched one game, but Joelinton clearly can’t play the role he’s being asked.

Maybe Gayle and Almiron pretending to be Rondon/Perez, with the others going wide.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 28 October 2019, 12:08:35 PM
I think in order to use our current best team and give ourselves a chance to actually score a goal we may have to revert to a 4-3-2-1.


            Longstaff Shortstaff

  Almiron      Joelinton         ASM
 
                     Gayle
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 12:22:43 PM
I’d say Gayle has to start when fit, he’s the only person who might get anywhere near 10 goals.

I’ve only watched one game, but Joelinton clearly can’t play the role he’s being asked.

Maybe Gayle and Almiron pretending to be Rondon/Perez, with the others going wide.

When he’s never scored more than 7 in the league, where do we suddenly get that he could get close to 10 goals? Even more after his injuries.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Ian W on Monday 28 October 2019, 12:37:32 PM
7 is close to 10 :lol:

It’s a pointless argument since if he gets 10 we’ll still get relegated, not sure why I got involved TBH.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 28 October 2019, 12:38:45 PM
It’s closer to 5.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: samptime29 on Monday 28 October 2019, 06:24:50 PM
It’s closer to 5.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: St1pe on Thursday 2 January 2020, 11:02:58 AM
I’m not sure if it was because we were just so dreadful yesterday but did anyone else think this lad isn’t as much as a lost cause as his squad appearances would suggest? He looked weak in certain situations but some of his play looked decent. In the right formation and more of a close possession based setup (not ours) I think he could be a half decent player at this level.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 11:07:56 AM
he's always looked decent to me, never going to be great but also never had a fair crack

i'd take him over gayle in a 1 on 1 every single time personally, gayle is done at this level
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Nattfare on Thursday 2 January 2020, 12:15:20 PM
He looked lively and got himself involved in the first half. Also much quicker than Gayle.

Completely vanished in the second half.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: TRon on Thursday 2 January 2020, 12:39:02 PM
He looked lively and got himself involved in the first half. Also much quicker than Gayle.

Completely vanished in the second half.

That's because we barely touched the ball. I thought he looked lively when he got the chance, much better than Gayle, that's for sure.

Really difficult to judge forwards when we are probably the worst passing team in the Premier.
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: Mr Logic on Thursday 2 January 2020, 08:10:34 PM
Muto is a canny player with intelligence and movement. I believe the only reason he never got much chance with Rafa was he was apparently a bit slow to pick up English. (Probably faster than I could pick up Japanese, but there you go.)
Had a big following in Japan, probably diminished because Ashley doesn't know how to capitalise on foreign assets cos he's a barrow-boy. No idea what Bruce thinks of him or why he hasn't played, might see him again in the cup game?
Title: Re: Yoshinori Mutō
Post by: sh74 on Thursday 2 January 2020, 08:38:59 PM
If we continue to play 2 up front I’d want one of the strikers to be Muto.