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NUFC => Football => Topic started by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:15:50 PM
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I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?
Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.
Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.
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Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.
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Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.
Aye, I've cursed the poor lad. Hope he likes playing for Gateshead :lol:
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Surprised by how big he is.
Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing
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Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.
:lol:
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Where does he play?
Can he do a shift up front?
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Canny pace bowler for Tynemouth in NEPL as well.
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
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He’ll be in the England squad for the next World Cup 👍
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Good cricketer.
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8 goals last season in League One.
Guess we will try to send him on loan to a Championship club.
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This c*** been sold yet?
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He was set to sign for Portsmouth on loan but club have pulled it. Either Rafa likes the look of him or we want him playing at a higher standard.
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1 in 1 out, who are we going to have to sell to keep him on the books
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He was set to sign for Portsmouth on loan but club have pulled it. Either Rafa likes the look of him or we want him playing at a higher standard.
Or we're potentially short of bodies with Hayden's situation.
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He's a very decent seam bowler, so at least he'll have that to fall back on.
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Hi Sean.
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Written off by page 1 and sold by page 2
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
:lol: That's the spirit!
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I think he deserves a chance with the first team, he did really well in his loan to Blackpool last year and scored a few crackers, and scored in his first friendly with us, we need to give him time and patience and see how he can develop.
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Written off by page 1 and sold by page 2
And we were making love by page 3
And on page 4, page 5 and page 6
We chilled on seven.
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I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?
Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.
Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.
his dad (former GB ice hockey player) David is a big bloke too so not surprising.
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
:thup:
Given Ashley's being a massive c*** with signing players, we desperately need a few gems to come good from the academy.
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Even if Ashley wasn't a c*** I'd want young players to come through. Despite our failures in the academy there are about 5 or 6 right now I have high hopes for.
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Even if Ashley wasn't a c*** I'd want young players to come through. Despite our failures in the academy there are about 5 or 6 right now I have high hopes for.
Not quite sure why you would say that - surely everyone wants young players to come through at all times? - but if we are not making first team signings then it's even more helpful if they do come through.
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
:lol: That's the spirit!
:lol: weighed and measured, shame for the lad that no player has ever improved as they get older
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Theres been literally no investment in the youth academy since Ashley took over, it'd be a minor miracle if any of them turn into PL players :lol:
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Money doesn't make players good :lol:
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Money doesn't make players good [emoji38]
Of course it does. Unless I'm being wooshed
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
Quick judgement. Harsh
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Surprised by how big he is.
Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing
:lol: class
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Money doesn't make players good :lol:
:lol:
Don't know where to start tbh...money lets you bring in better young players for a start. Then better facilities, coaching etc. We just go for local lads no other club decides to take and then let Beardsley et al 'coach' them :lol:
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Coaches them and then calls them immigrants after
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Best tell the likes of city before they invest anymore in the academy.
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People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
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People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
But it can be developed and nurtured. We just produce the non-league players of the future in this tin pot club
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People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?
Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team
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People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgct3Jn8pFA
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People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?
Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team
and that's before getting onto how the talent that we do have are often more attracted to the likes of 'boro, where the youth development pisses all over ours. Dunno how anyone could say what Liam's said with a straight face tbh. Our lack of backing for local talent is why we ended up having to pay a world record fee for a player that should have been with us from the beginning but might have ended up on the scrap heap if he'd stayed, same with Beardsley and Carrick.
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Surprised by how big he is.
Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing
:lol: class
He came good in a FM game for me so I dubbed him Sean Big Dick. Still think of him as this...
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
Bang on. Unless Sewelly’s been to plenty reserve matches/Blackpool games where Longstaff played it’s a bit of a sad comment.
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I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.
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I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.
In general terms for the current youth players, yes. In the case of a young player that has already proven himself successful at League 1 level - no.
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If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
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If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
Off the back of one game? I mean he's probably got a good future but that seems pretty crazy
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It is very crazy. He should be out on loan again.
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People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?
Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team
Yep
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I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.
In general terms for the current youth players, yes. In the case of a young player that has already proven himself successful at League 1 level - no.
Maybe.
However, if a player is reaching 21 and has never been involved at any England level I'd be a bit apprehensive about his PL potential.
Obviously there's counter examples and lets hope he's one of them.
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People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
They did and it can be argued that academies have actually had a negative effect on natural talent, we are certainly seeing fewer type of players or different styles, but that isn’t why NUFC fail to produce any talent.
It is out there, but when they end up at the club a combination of poor facilities and coaching prevents them from developing and when they do get to 18-20 their chances of making it at the club is almost non existent and just as slim making it as a pro even lower down.
Players that have a bit more about them and do break into the first-team need a manager who values youth and who can develop thing in an environment that allows that.
Under Keegan and Sir Bobby to an extent where we had a team of good players and there was a pressure to win and challenge, unless a player was of undoubted talent, their route into the team would likely be blocked by a big money signing which is the kind of players fans demand and a team challenging needs.
Today, we could really do with a pool of talent coming through because we have an environment where we don’t have the kind of money to go and blow on certain positions and a manager that values youth and is renowned for developing it.
But our owner doesn’t care about any of that and as such our immediate future on the pitch is weakened by not having an academy or facilities up to scratch that young kids want to join (they opt for Boro or Sunderland more often than not) and if they do, they won’t develop to any decent standard anyway.
Andy Carrol and Dumett man :lol:
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If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell. :lol:
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If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell. :lol:
Is Odin a joke account?
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If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell. [emoji38]
Is Odin a joke account?
Takes one to know one
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If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell. [emoji38]
Is Odin a joke account?
Takes one to know one
So is he, then?
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What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
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He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
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He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
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He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from O0
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He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from O0
It would be Ashley's wet dream if we had a model like Southampton.
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He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from O0
It would be Ashley's wet dream if we had a model like Southampton.
Maybe someone should tell him that if we improve the facilities there is more likelihood of this happening?
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If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
:lol: :lol: "more than ready..."
Played a decent game in a friendly against St. Pats and now he's Diame's understudy. Love this place.
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What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
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What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.
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What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.
Can't wait for the window that it bolsters the ol' warchest.
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What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.
Can't wait for the window that it bolsters the ol' warchest.
It's dribbling in, 100k at a time. Paying for PR.
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Did well again tonight..
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Aye, looked comfortable in both roles (advanced in the first half before dropping deeper into midfield in the second). Nicked the ball well high up the pitch a few times, and his height means he can get into physical duels too. Promising signs.
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Fair play today, held his own against much better opposition. Played the ball around nicely at times.
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Did well. Disciplined and some nice passes.
Will be playing in League 1 though cos Neesy said so.
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Had a 30-second spell where he looked decent, other than that it was a performance Jack Colback would have been proud of.
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Had a 30-second spell where he looked decent, other than that it was a performance Jack Colback would have been proud of.
Nah
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Did well. Showed his passing range near the end, wish he tried to get on it a bit more though given how tidy he is. Promising
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Played some really good football today. Did excellent to win that corner right at the end which we took full advantage of...........
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He should be buzzing tonight.
Still, a career of Championship football awaits.
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He should be buzzing tonight.
Still, a career of Championship football awaits.
We'll be a match made in heaven so
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Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.
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He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.
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Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.
Aye he played well but he definitely lacks athleticism
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Covered more distance on the pitch today too
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Good looking prospect.
Picks good options and moves the ball in a timely fashion. Very very good traits.
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Should keep his place ahead of Hayden if Diame's back next week.
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I thought he was plenty athletic, just the fact he ran a kilometre more than anyone else took its toll towards the end.
Biggest compliment you can pay him is that he took Diame's place and I didn't really notice Diame not being there off the ball. Any hairy moments seemed to come through Hayden.
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Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.
Agree in terms of his athletic dynamism, but he’s obviously got a seriously good engine, and can provide very good ‘legs’. Clearly you need plenty more than that at PL level, but he had at least showed a decent range of passing in the second half, and looking at his goals on loan to Blackpool, he has a canny dig on him too. Early days, but certainly a bit of promise.
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Distance covered is a poor indicator tbh. Number and intensity of sprints is far more important. You want players who can do s*** loads of sprints at a high intensity across the 90 minutes and not just someone who can run at 3/4 pace across the 90.
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Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.
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We'd do well to get a million, man :lol:
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The kid was as good as anybody else on our team. He should keep his place.
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He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.
Aye cos North Shields produces pure loads of mint players :lol:
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Anyway, in keeping with this thread, he was f***ing worse than garbage bewwwww
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He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.
Aye cos North Shields produces pure loads of mint players :lol:
Class driving instructors too.
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He was ok, let's not get carried away and build him up too much.
It's one game.
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I understand Crumpy is a gunt, but there's no need to get personal is there
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I understand Crumpy is a gunt, but there's no need to get personal is there
You're right, uncalled for input from me. I take it back - I'm sure he doesn't care anyway, I'm just an anonymous guy on a forum, not only that but I'm from South Shields. Practically a mackem.
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Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.
Pretty sure Diame was always athletic as he is now. :lol:
Longstaff is a tidy player with decent awareness, but I agree that he doesn't maybe have quite enough athleticism for the top level. I remember when Steve Watson made his debut (at 16 I think) his pace and athleticism stood out even at that age. Maybe Longstaff will develop it.
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He wasn’t though, he was lumbering and not sharp.
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He wasn’t though, he was lumbering and not sharp.
probably lack of match fitness at this level or needing to adapt to the pace of the game here.
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Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
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Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
:lol:
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Should be proud of himself tonight. Very impressive first 90 in the PL.
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Impressive debut indeed!👍
Didn't put a foot wrong. Tired a bit at the end but by far our best player today.
Did more than enough to keep his place in the starting eleven for the Cardiff game.
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He must have been nervous as f*** and played pretty well for first real game
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Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
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Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
Yep that says it all really.
Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.
If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..
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Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
Yep that says it all really.
Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.
If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..
Really? When all available you want Longstaff to play :lol:
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Why not? We look like we’re going down regardless.
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Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
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Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
Yep that says it all really.
Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.
If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..
Really? When all available you want Longstaff to play :lol:
We are completely f***ed, may as well give him a chance. We won't stay up anyway
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Got a cracking pass on him and when he got his head up in the second half he looked like he can be dangerous offensively. Actually thought the centre midfield did pretty well but the glaring weaknesses elsewhere was the diifference between a loss and a draw.
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It's always good to see one of our young ones get a chance and i thought he did well yesterday, will only get better i hope as he gets more confidence to play in this level.
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Thought he did well, and would definitely like to see more of him but fully expect to never see him play any more minutes for us if Rafas handling of Murphy is anything to go by.
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looked good yesterday. It's always easier to play with good players around you so once Mike brings in our new signings he'll look even better
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Hopefully another start for him on Tuesday against weaker opponents.
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Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.
Stamina arguably, not speed across the ground. I'm not criticizing him like just an observation. He played really well
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Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
Lol calm down. Literally all was said is he isn't particularly athletic. Everyone has rightly said he had a good game.
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have we sold him yet?
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Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
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I really like this boy :love:
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motm for me like
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Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
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He's fantastic. Michael Carrick like midfielder. An exciting find in these rotten times.
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Looks a decent prospect. Would start him ahead of Hayden.
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Immense. Will be important in the championship.
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Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
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had a pretty good start, early days yet but I like the look of him
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Most of what he did tonight was good, and made very few mistakes in a team that seems to make mistakes during literally every phase of play throughout the game.
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Looks a decent prospect. Would start him ahead of Hayden.
I think Rafa had Hayden starting Saturday against Cardiff as he was on the bench, I'm the same as you i think he should start ahead of Hayden, don't think he will now he's done 120 minutes.
Just in two or so games he's looked far better than Hayden.
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Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
Nah, I've really liked Longstaff from the first time I saw him, you are just massively underrating Matic
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Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
Nah, I've really liked Longstaff from the first time I saw him, you are just massively underrating Matic
It was slightly tongue in cheek like. Obviously Matic is nowhere near as good.
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I hope he has an Irish granny.
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I hope he has an Irish granny.
Be a shame for him to get deported.
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I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
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Reckon he’s got a future here, then?
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I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
christ are things so desperate for us we're asking kids in the Newcastle Academy if they can play for us
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:lol:
What a win does, eh. Imagine if we were good.
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I hope he has an Irish granny.
Be a shame for him to get deported.
Brexit means Brexit, no U-turns allowed.
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Like the cut of his jib although I didn’t think he was overly great v Chelsea. Calm on the ball if nowt else.
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I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
I'm not worried, in a couple of months he will be desperate for a brown passport.
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Dave is spinning in his tomb
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I’m hoping the madness might bring him back. You can only fight OCD for so long.
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Reminds me of a young Andy Cole.
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I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
christ are things so desperate for us we're asking kids in the Newcastle Academy if they can play for us
Well it would’ve been for our underage teams like
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Could be the next Danny Guthrie. ;)
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His development will come to a grinding halt the moment Rafa leaves, sadly.
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f***s gan on
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Schlong Pornstash
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Hearing rumours Semtex has ordered a Seanstaff shirt to go with Shearea
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Seriously, I do like how he receives the ball and always manages to keep it under control and find a team mate. Seems to have time on the ball even in a crowded area which is rare for one of our players.
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Longstiff shirley
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Was so aroused when he scored.
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So, he's been decent then?
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He's doing some basic midfield stuff moderately well. Good to see him get a goal. I really wouldn't mind a Dummet quality CM from the academy, we're thin as f*** as it is.
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Played well.
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Will make Mike some more money one day O0
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Looks like a very good all-rounder. I wouldn't talk of potential, I think he's arrived.
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Dave is spinning in his tomb
Looks like it falls to me to be a jobsworth spoilsport and merge them then :razz:
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Dave is spinning in his tomb
Looks like it falls to me to be a jobsworth spoilsport and merge them then :razz:
(https://i.imgur.com/V7WtFPj.gif)
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Can we not just promote him up the striker pecking order above Joselu at least and start getting him some premier league minutes?
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Can we not just promote him up the striker pecking order above Joselu at least and start getting him some premier league minutes?
He’s a centre mid and started our last league game :lol:
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Ah yes. Shows how much attention I've been paying
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For me, no introduction of a young CM is complete without the rite of passage of John Carver throwing him to the dogs in post-match conferences. Abeid is still shook.
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For me, no introduction of a young CM is complete without the rite of passage of John Carver throwing him to the dogs in post-match conferences. Abeid is still shook.
But if we had 11 Jack Colbacks out there we'd be in a much better place.
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his dad's david longstaff isnt he - the one that played for the steelers?
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his dad's david longstaff isnt he - the one that played for the steelers?
Yes he is
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Not seen much of him, but he has a similar style to an early Henderson. I’d take that!
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Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
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Leave him in, he's done just fine and will have a dip at some point, but currently needs to play to build up confidence too.
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Future captain.
If we have a future
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Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
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Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
Nah, don’t see that at all.
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Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
Nah, don’t see that at all.
Bracewell maybe, then? Before injuries cost him much of his game that is. Good control, hard to push off the ball, uses it well under pressure.
Very early days of course. Hope to see plenty more of him, anyway
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Too early for me to make any worthwhile comparisons but it's nice to see someone looking like he has some potential. Hope he starts again today alongside Diame.
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If there's any two of Diame, Shelvey, Hayden fit for today, this lad will be on the bench so fast his head will spin, Rafa has pretty much shown so far he only uses youth if he absolutely has to.
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If there's any two of Diame, Shelvey, Hayden fit for today, this lad will be on the bench so fast his head will spin, Rafa has pretty much shown so far he only uses youth if he absolutely has to.
Not really fair - which of our young players are demanding selection and not getting it?
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I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.
He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.
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I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.
He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.
We don't have any other central midfielders.
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Much prefer him to Hayden. Might do alright with Ki.
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I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.
He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.
We don't have any other central midfielders.
This was on the assumption Diame was back today like.
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Great first half. Keep it up lad.
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This lad looks the real deal like, very good at keeping possession.
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Well done lad. Stepped up when needed and showed some balls.
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Already got a poster of him in the living room O0
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He has earned his place at the side and shouldn't be replaced by anyone at the moment, really happy for him, one of the few good stories of the season.
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Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.
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Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.
Also dont begrudge him when he was fouled not fully playing to the whistle. One of many w*** decisions by the ref. Clear as day that one.
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Chuffed it's going so well for him. :thup:
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Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.
Good to hear. Reaction time and awareness is (fingers crossed) most likely something he can improve on as he gets more experience with the tempo in this league compared to what he's used to.
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Amazing composure. Knows when to take a touch and when to play it first time and rarely loses the ball.
Chuffed to see him take advantage of his run in the team and justifying the longer contract with some early promise. :thup:
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Love seeing a young guy come through and deliver. This guy is a cool customer.
Such a nice story. The thought of Diame or Shelvey coming back in is actually a bit of a downer.
Hope he keeps his place unless he struggles a bit.
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Seamless step up in difficult circumstances. Can't overstate how well he's done. Played a lot of football recently too which probably explains him fading late on.
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Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.
Can't see Rafa going without a midfield enforcer, Hayden or Diame are always going to be in there. Longstaff will be competing with Shelvey and Ki for the shirt IMO.
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If we're signing nobody then he's worthy of a starting place imo.
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Already got a poster of him in the living room O0
:serious:
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Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.
Good to hear. Reaction time and awareness is (fingers crossed) most likely something he can improve on as he gets more experience with the tempo in this league compared to what he's used to.
Yep. In both cases he will adjust and learn with more experience. Definitely encouraging.
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Well played young fella. Stepped up when needed and shown great maturity for one so young.
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Calm on the ball and plays it simple all the time. Hope he will keep his place in the team as he has earned it. Him and Ki could do well together. Don't miss Shelvey a bit at the moment.
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Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.
Can't see Rafa going without a midfield enforcer, Hayden or Diame are always going to be in there. Longstaff will be competing with Shelvey and Ki for the shirt IMO.
Yep spot on.
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Like a new signing
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When is Mike selling him ?
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Really great talent :love: :love:
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Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
Nah, don’t see that at all.
Unlucky pal! Rafa knows what I'm saying!
And, of the 21-year-old, Benitez said: 'I've heard the Michael Carrick comparison and I can see that.
'Carrick, later on, became a holding-midfielder, but at this stage Sean has more mobility and plenty of stamina, he can cover a lot of ground.
'But certainly (like Carrick) he has the technique and can use both feet well. He is also a quiet type and is not someone who loses his head.'
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In the right spot at the right time to win the pen, was champion throughout the night everywhere.
He must be over the moon. Must be an amazing feeling for a local lad and happy for him.
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Cannot drop him man. I love this kid. Such a cool head.
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In the right spot at the right time to win the pen, was champion throughout the night everywhere.
He must be over the moon. Must be an amazing feeling for a local lad and happy for him.
Was very impressed with him tonight. Perhaps he’s invisible, and that’s why he got clobbered for the pen :lol:
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He's been my favorite thing about this season, he worked really hard and really deserves everything that he's got, today once again he proved that he cannot be dropped no matter who returns.
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Think I heard a "one of our own" chants tonight.
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I'm so happy for this lad.
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Want his long staff inside me.
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Sean Longstaff FC
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Think I heard a "one of our own" chants tonight.
There was indeed. :thup:
Think we have found a player here, fellas. The young'un must be buzzing tonight :)
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Want his long staff inside me.
:spit:
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Only played Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and the pressure game that was Cardiff since he came into the side. :lol:
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He was good again and of course won the pen. He's not had a bad game yet, deserves his place in the team. Well done to him.
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What a moment for him. He must be absolutely buzzing.
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Always seeking to get involved, takes responsibility, can pass as well as put his foot in. His emergence is a real bonus.
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Want his long staff inside me.
:spit:
:lol:
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Mugged off Fernandinho. Build statue now.
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Absolutely superb again, the real deal this lad.
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Will be an honour to see him play for Frank Lampard’s Derby.
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Love the progress he looks to be making already. Dovetails nicely with Hayden who has been equally as impressive. Both of them had a hand in our goals tonight. Fantastic stuff!
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Absolutely superb again, the real deal this lad.
He really is. As far as academy products go he'll be a bigger player than Carroll IMO.
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He's been such a positive in these dark times, so I hope he continues to play a big part for the rest of the season. A PL goal for him would be immense.
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Haven't really seen him since I haven't been following this season due to major apathy. Is he the new Gerrard yet?
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Who’d we say would be the best partner for him moving forward? He’s definitely worthy of it being Longstaff plus one when they’re all fit.
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Who’d we say would be the best partner for him moving forward? He’s definitely worthy of it being Longstaff plus one when they’re all fit.
Diame and let's see what he can do with a bit more forward licence. I reckon we haven't seen his forte yet which is in the attacking third.
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Has to be Diame sadly, or ideally a new defensive midfielder.
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I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.
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Is Shelvey completely knackered, like?
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taken his chance and ran with it, hell of a start and really didn't look out of place against some of the best midfielders in the league
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I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.
I feel like it’s pretty Damn obvious yet people still keep asking
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?s=20
Take that in son.
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I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.
I feel like it’s pretty Damn obvious yet people still keep asking
This forum would be pretty light if people didn't repeat the same arguments man, it's essential.
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?s=20
Take that in son.
Longstaff sold to City for £3m
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Very mature performance on and off the ball, did the basics well and got involved higher up the pitch which won us the penalty, economical on the ball and very calm and assured. Could be a decent player, no outstanding attributes, but I’m liking what I see.
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League 2 level IMO
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Thought he was incredible tonight. He could have easily hid in the last 5 minutes due to his inexperience but he seemed to take it upon himself to see the win out. Great to hear the “one of our own” song being belted out for him from the corner.
On form I’d start him even if everyone was fit.
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League 2 level IMO
:lol::lol: one of my favourite recent comments on here.
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Against the grain like but it's him with Ki in my mind.
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Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
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Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
Samaris started for Benfica tonight, I don't think he's coming.
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Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
Possibly. I just don't see Longstaff as needing a pure destroyer alongside him. He's not like Ki or Shelvey in the way that he does get stuck in
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Love him.
Stepped up when it matters, and showed great composure.
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Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
Sounds like a firm of solicitors.
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I will vouch for him and Ki
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He's done well against a big side. He can be the next Kevin Mbabu.
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Remember when Abeid beasted man city and immediately got exiled
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Longstaff and shelvey for me
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Remember when Abeid beasted man city and immediately got exiled
You have to love pards. Many a career ruined.
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This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.
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This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.
Should f*** the baldy waste of space off given any bidders
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This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.
Should f*** the baldy waste of space off given any bidders
Can't see that happening, if we get samaris in it may allow Hayden to be loaned out though.
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Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes
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Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes
Agree. Would personally love to see how Longstaff kicks on. He's got the tools to be a f***ing great player.
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Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes
If this Almiron lad is good enough we might not need Shelvey's passing ability anyway. Would much prefer those opportunities go to someone well rounded and to be frank i even prefer Ki to Shelvey. :lol:
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Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
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Longstaff has been a breath of fresh air so far. Puts himself about nicely. Hopefully Rafa keeps him around (if Rafa stays).
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Would be nice to be able to praise one of our players without shitting on another. Shelvey is one of our highest quality players ffs
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Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.
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Matters not when Tielemans walks through the door Thursday.
I mean obviously he walks through the door then out the other one when he realises he is completely in the wrong f***ing club. My bad.
Longstaff is a huge bonus for us, with Ki and Shelvey hopefully fit within the next couple of weeks, Diame back to speed and hopefully Samaris for Hayden things definitely look better. Hopefully Sangare gets the chance to train more often with the first team too, potential there and with a few bairns tbf.
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I wonder if the emergence of Longstaff will convince Ashley to spend a few quid on the acade....eerrrhhhh, I know I know.
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Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.
don't think anyone means sell him now do they? i'd look to move him in the summer if we decide to operate like a proper club for a change
Ki, Diame, Longstaff, New competing for the 2 spots under Rafa would work for me with maybe another option as backup to that
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Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.
Is Shelvey the type of player who is happy to be a squad player? I don't think so, he's been a bit lackadaisical in the few outings he's had as sub. It will be interesting to see if he gets his place back when he's fit.
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If we were to get someone of Tielemans profile I’d happily see him leave.
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Shelvey's an attacking sub only, not the man to bring on to protect a result as he's unfortunately proved time and time again.
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Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
Who said they were avocating doing it today? just meant long term is all.
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Longstaff and Ki for me on form this season.
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Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
Who said they were avocating doing it today? just meant long term is all.
MD and Kanji did right above your response to them. FWIW I'd also advocate doing it in the summer... if we were a properly run club.
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:thup:
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he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
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he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
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he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
Why? He’s been our most consistent midfield since West Ham away two Christmas’s ago.
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he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
He's our most important midfielder tbf.
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he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
He's our most important midfielder tbf.
I just think he's been a bit s*** this season. His closing down/tackling is fantastic but whenever he has the ball we know we're about to lose it.
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he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
Why? He’s been our most consistent midfield since West Ham away two Christmas’s ago.
Agree. I prefer Diame to Hayden tbh, closes down the opposition a bit better and just generally shows for the ball more.
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he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
He's our most important midfielder tbf.
:thup:
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Christ, this is like the opposite of Diame's own thread :lol:
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Seeing him at the match last night he's much better than I was expecting. He's a lot more mobile and athletic and he seems to cover a lot of ground quickly. He also could have easily hidden in those last 10 minutes given his inexperience but he seem to take it upon himself to make sure we saw that win out. Hopefully if he keeps developing and starts working a few more forward passes we could be looking at a decent player.
On form it'd be hard to argue someone should be starting over him even if everyone was fit.
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Pep didn't really say anything about him, did he? Seen the headlines but seriously can't see Longstaff's name mentioned, just Pep talking about our "holding midfielders" being a problem in a passage.
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This lad has took his opportunity brilliantly, fair play.
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Pep didn't really say anything about him, did he? Seen the headlines but seriously can't see Longstaff's name mentioned, just Pep talking about our "holding midfielders" being a problem in a passage.
Longstaff is one of our “holding midfielders” right?
And it’s from Pep, one of the best “holding midfielders” in his era and the founder of Busquets. I would take his comments very high in this aspect
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I don't think Pep was thinking "relative to how Busquets plays" when he made that comment. Rafa set up our pivot to perfection, so both players shone.
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Rafa makes players better/look better.
Sean Longstaff should thank his lucky stars that he has Rafas tutelage at such a young age.
There's a few of our players who would be absolute dog s*** under worse managers.
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After showing promise in preseason you can be sure that he’s spent six months of first team training being primed by Rafa in his team to know exactly what they want from him and what he should be doing in different situations.
He’s clearly been listening as it shows from the consistency in his early performances and the faith Rafa has shown in him.
Colback for example was the exact opposite.
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Colback was just a poor footballer though.
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I don't think Pep was thinking "relative to how Busquets plays" when he made that comment. Rafa set up our pivot to perfection, so both players shone.
Nah I just mean in terms of rating an holding midfielder Pep should be one of the best in the world.
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Interview with him on Sky Sports. Seems like a really nice lad
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Gan on Longshaft! New favourite player.
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My mate was his teacher and school football coach at John Spence. Taught him everything he knows.
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Played really well, again.
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Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
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Didn't look out of place again today. I think Shelvey and/or Diame will have bother getting back in the side (as they should!)
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Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
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Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.
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Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.
I think the Ardiles Thompson played for Bolton as well, could be the same one?
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Definitely started here though.
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He’s going to be a good player
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It's a shame he is likely to get lost in the shuffle over the next couple of weeks. He deserves to keep his place tbh. Going back to a squad role now is going to suck for his development.
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It's a shame he is likely to get lost in the shuffle over the next couple of weeks. He deserves to keep his place tbh. Going back to a squad role now is going to suck for his development.
Rafa will keep working with him. I think he will get the wolves game too tbf.
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4 year contract before christmas is a good sign too.
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Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.
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Absolutely love him. Long may he continue in the side.
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I'd not drop him for Shelvey, Diame or Ki at the moment tbh.
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Would be interesting if we were brave enough to partner him with Ki, otherwise it’s going to be a tricky selection. Ki might be out a while anyway, so I think he’s safe for a few weeks.
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Getting better with each match and is definitely a Premier League midfielder from what I've seen of him so far. Seems to have a decent engine and is very tidy in possession, while also having the ability to turn the play faster than Diame and Ki generally do. Has to retain his place in the team even when the others are fit, for me.
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Been really impressed with him so far, he has a great deal of composure for someone so young.
Needs to work on his shooting though :lol:
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Still waiting to see his trademark high wave coerver coaching special techniques.
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think Ki has to play when fully fit and then its a question of who else in a 2 or 3.
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What I like about him is that he actually finds himself in the opposition box from time to time.
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He’ll still be eligible for the U21s won’t he? Surely he deserves a call up.
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Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.
That's the same one. Broke his neck in a car crash while a youth team player for us.
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Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.
Was really impressed by his ability to do this. Always seemed to be able to create a bit of space for himself.
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Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.
Was really impressed by his ability to do this. Always seemed to be able to create a bit of space for himself.
I think Longstaff and Ki together would have a calming effect on the team as both seems to create the space for themself instead of just hoof it up the pitch and hope for the best.
Exited to get to see them play together.
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I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.
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Longstaff and Ki are both not very great tacklers, IMO. We need a proper holding midfielder next to a more creative one with our current crop. Ki and Longstaff are competing for the same shirt. They probably only play together if we are down and chasing a game.
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Diame needs to be in the team.
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The obsession with having a "tackler" harms you if that tackler ends up being completely useless on the ball though. Not sure I've got much faith in Hayden or Diame to not be.
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Diame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
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Diame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.
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Diame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.
Apart from the last 4-5 months of last season (which he was incredible) he’s been f***ing hopeless.
I doubt he’ll be playing for us next season, unless we go down.
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I agree we need to upgrade on him next season, but hopeless come on. :lol:
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Diame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.
Apart from the last 4-5 months of last season (which he was incredible) he’s been f***ing hopeless.
I doubt he’ll be playing for us next season, unless we go down.
Agreed
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Akinator couldn't get him right when I tried yesterday. :(
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I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.
Bring David Batty back from retirement then!!!😉
Best DM ever imo.
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I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.
Bring David Batty back from retirement then!!!😉
Best DM ever imo.
He was immense 👍
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Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
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f***ing hell man, we could do without losing a Midfielder to suicide.
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Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
Did you tell him how much you hate Rafa but refuse to say who you think should replace him?
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Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
Did you tell him how much you hate Rafa but refuse to say who you think should replace him?
I didn't think that discussing the managers inane tactics was an apt subject. But, I'll remember for next time.
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Does he still live at the coast Crumpy? I think he was in school there?
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Does he still live at the coast Crumpy? I think he was in school there?
As far as I know he's from down that way. Good to see him oblige the kids with photos etc. He was at Benfield v Shields with his fatha and brother.
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Comes across really well, nice to have a, potentially, local hero.
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Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
Funny that, my mate who volunteers taking calls for the Samaritans swears he’s just had Longstaff on the phone. Said he sounded down as f***.
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Handed in a transfer request
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Handed in a transfer request
Who?
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:lol:
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Handed in a transfer request
Who?
Crumpy. Wants to join a club with a proper manager. Though he doesn't know who that might be.
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What a guy.
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Man of the match by a country mile.
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So composed
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he's brilliant
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
super scout strikes again
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Shocking performance. ;)
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in reality we need to be finding the perfect partner for him in CM to bring out the best of him.
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Hope with diame back he can play bigger part going forward as looks composed as f*** and seems aware of players around him
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Can't be dropped playing as he is at the moment. Looking forward to seeing Diame or Ki alongside him.
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
super scout strikes again
ahahaha
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some boy, some adam's apple
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Congrats for another great performance all across the park.
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He was outstanding tonight. Seemed to misplace a pass every time the commentators mentioned that fact though.
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Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.
Will score a screamer before the season is out if he keeps playing.
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What a gem he is. Evidence that the academy is worth investing in.
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Utterly brilliant, what an absolute player we have.
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Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.
Will score a screamer before the season is out if he keeps playing.
Every goal he scored for Blackpool seemed to be a belter
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Special mention ......the kid was class O0
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He was excellent tonight; one of the CM spots is his for as long as he wants it/as long as we don't spend proper money.
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Shelvey will struggle to make the match day squad with Longstaff's form.
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Isn't a stupid c*** ala Shelvey. Seems calm as f***, not constantly giving away needless fouls.
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Tidy passer, moves the ball quickly, never stops running and puts a tackle in. Fantastic so far. He's not only competing with the opposition but he's standing out in games. Definitely a one to watch for the future.
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Very impressive today playing a little deeper and doing an excellent job. It made me think that he has the skills set to pair up with any of our midfield options - which is great news, because he should surely be the first CM picked.
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He really does remind me of carrick
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Really impressed with this lad like. I tend not to get carried away with local talent coming through, purely because I worry about the standard of coaching they're being given, but there don't seem to be any worries with this lad so far. Very calm, neat and tidy, seems intelligent with it, a good engine, and a good attitude. Obvious comparison, but I actually do see shades of Carrick in some of his play.
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He really does remind me of carrick
Deffo did tonight.
We've got a player here.
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Clear MoM tonight. He’s growing in confidence game by game. Lad is a player. :-)
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Delighted Rafa has kept faith with this lad, gets better with every passing game. Plays with an assured composure well beyond his years and makes it all look easy. His best game yet tonight and can count himself extremely unlucky not to be going home with three points.
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:smitten:
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Him and Diame next game?
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Revelation this lad
The way he breaks up play is brilliant, especially for a lad his age. Well deserved Motm tonight.
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Him and Diame next game?
Nah. Was only 10 minutes but I felt we worse without Hayden when Diame came on.
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Will play for England within 2 years.
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Impressive game, has earned his starting place.
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Will play for England within 2 years.
He will, looks made for international football to a tee. Just hope when we inevitably cash in on him he doesn't hop into the Man City/Chelsea reject bin.
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Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.
I noticed that too. Wasn't sure if it was his positioning or if the players had just been told to concentrate on working the wings. Would be mad if that was the case though because he's one of the only players confident enough to play a decent forward pass that isn't a long ball. We need to be getting him on the ball as much as possible.
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Was a make or break season for him this. He's not a young talent anymore at 21. If you're not good enough at that age these days it is very unlikely that you will make it at this level at all. Glad he's taken his chance and showed that he can perform.
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He really does remind me of carrick
Reminds me more of Matic
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The midfielders he's had to face the last 6 weeks or so too and hasn't looked out of place:
Kante, Jorginho, Neves, Moutinho, Fernandinho, De bruyne, Silva etc
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It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.
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It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.
Aye, if a player gets to 21 without ever being anywhere near the first team you start to suspect the coaching staff just know they won't cut it.
If we don't see a player lighting up before they're 18, they might as well not exist. Nice to see Longstaff bucking the trend.
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Again, pair him with a proper Partner of real quality and we have a partnership that can flourish.
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It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.
I'm more of the opinion that there are probably loads of lads in academies across the UK that don't get a look in that are more than capable of playing premiership football. It's not that UK academies are loads worse than Spanish ones, it that we never give our own a chance. We buy in players from abroad who have been given their chances in less high pressure leagues, paying the premium for not having to take a chance on them.
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I do get this viewpoint, but honestly the level they play at is not good. I've watched a fair bit of it, and the step up is absolutely huge. For every Longstaff, there is ten adam campbells. There is definitely talent around but it's very much limited. The culture at UK academies is not great, I spoke with a lad who played for Torino as youth player, and they all ate together, hung out together, much more inclusive environment. Take Barca for instance, the youth players are regularly around the likes of messi, and the culture is very different. I'd be inclined to say the coaching isn't the greatest either.
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I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
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It’s a fair point about the circumstance that led to getting his chance.
Rafa has to trust the youth setup because new players coming through can’t always be because of an injury crisis.
On the flip side, we’re not a team with the luxury of seeing how a few young ins will do when thrown in.
Hayden has been a good partner for him in the middle, also did great last night too. Be harsh to drop him for Diame straight away.
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I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
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It's a very interesting point that Longstaff probably would not have been given this opportunity had our "1st choice" central midfield pairing not been unavailable. I'm sure there are numerous similar situations around other clubs throughout their histories. I'm not one to get overly excited or enthused but these recent performances are not some flash in the pan but are a player who knows his position is calm and makes good choices with the ball. Watching him talking to Rafa during the match had me saying to myself we've got a player here.
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I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.
Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?
At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.
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He really does remind me of carrick
Reminds me more of Matic
Was thinking the same yesterday. First time I’ve had a good look of him.
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These players have to go on loan. Longstaff is actually the perfect example. His loan at Blackpool has been a huge factor in making him ready to play in comp football
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I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.
Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?
At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.
Why should Championship clubs take them when there are absolutely stacks of players in the Championship worthy of PL football that bigger clubs won't take a chance on? It's the same issue really, PL clubs prefer to shop abroad when the Championship is absolutely full of good young British players and usually the only way they ever get a go in the top flight is when their club gets promoted. The gap between the top flight and the Championship is much smaller than it was a few years ago.
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It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
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It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Youth_League
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It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
Because he has scored, he has contributed. I know he's a bad player, but what are the alternatives. Throw Sorensen in? He might do well but I'd be very surprised, he most likely wouldn't get a kick. He needs to go to a football league club and learn how to play in that environment.
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The problem for the Premiership is that the huge amounts of money involved in either staying up or trying to reach the Champions League mean that clubs are reluctant to risk young players. The huge amounts of money involved also make it too easy to buy ready made, experienced players from abroad.
On Longstaff, two or three times a game, the opposition will try to close him down and he just drifts past them with the ball into open space. That's quite a rare quality in a midfield anchorman - or at least an English one. Looking at who we've got, Dier looks like a defender who's a bit out of his comfort zone, and Henderson, good player that he is, doesn't have that particular ability.
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It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Youth_League
See, f***ing mint idea.
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It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
Because he has scored, he has contributed. I know he's a bad player, but what are the alternatives. Throw Sorensen in? He might do well but I'd be very surprised, he most likely wouldn't get a kick. He needs to go to a football league club and learn how to play in that environment.
Plenty of players have come through from reserve football straight into the premier league and succeeded. The striking position here at the moment is a very difficult one to play admittedly, but I don't see the harm in giving someone like Sorensen minutes ahead of Joselu. What's the point in having these backup players if we don't allow them the opportunity to sink or swim?
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we’re not a team with the luxury of seeing how a few young ins will do when thrown in
Said every team in the PL. The only time it's suitable to throw in an unknown prospect unless there's injuries would be for a team towards the end of the season that is safe from relegation and has too big a gap between the team above and below it for it not to matter whether they win or lose.
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Problem for the previous lads is they usually all get one or two cups games where 5 or 6 of them are thrown in. Should be using 1 or 2 with the senior players
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If he was called Longstaffio and we'd signed him on loan from Napoli last month, we'd all be desperate to sign him permanently.
He's been outstanding.
This guy would benefit hugely from another couple of years under Rafa's tutelage to fully blossom.
He'd probably be s**** under a PFM but under Rafa it's like his role has been completely drilled into him and he's sticking to it.
Love how calm on the ball he is. He nevers looks flusterered.
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His nickname should be The Real Deal Longstaff. Because he is one.
Top banana this lad.
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I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.
Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?
At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.
Why should Championship clubs take them when there are absolutely stacks of players in the Championship worthy of PL football that bigger clubs won't take a chance on? It's the same issue really, PL clubs prefer to shop abroad when the Championship is absolutely full of good young British players and usually the only way they ever get a go in the top flight is when their club gets promoted. The gap between the top flight and the Championship is much smaller than it was a few years ago.
The prospect of getting in on the ground floor on a young, English player with proper potential. I think most Champ teams would have snapped your hand off if you'd offered them a Ryan Sassegnon or Will Hughes type player with the option of buying them at a cut price if they do well or shipping them back if not. I think the harder sell would be convincing Prem teams to agree to part with them if they do well.
It's a daft idea though. We'll just have to make do with loaning the poor buggers to Motherwell and Carlisle and hoping they actually get on the pitch once or twice.
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I said after his first start that he reminds me of Carrick - fantastic prospect!
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I said after his first start that he reminds me of Carrick - fantastic prospect!
Aye, while not going overboard he has better long passes off either foot, so much potential there.
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lot of players have talent, not everyone rises to the occasion when out there in the PL - and can do it over a run of games. He's proven it imo.
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His development reminds me of Kane. Nobody expected them to make it in the Premier League, but decent coaching and taking their chances because of injury or poor form from other players has meant they have taken their opportunity.
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I'd hope we use this to at least have some belief in trying them more often.
I really like the look of Barlaser too from when he's played before and he looked good in the FA Cup the other week. Would like to see him get games at some point.
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Sad that it took an injury crisis for him to get a chance. You just don't know how someone is going to perform until you stick them in a PL game, especially not flashy, all rounder centre mids like Longstaff
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I'd hope we use this to at least have some belief in trying them more often.
I really like the look of Barlaser too from when he's played before and he looked good in the FA Cup the other week. Would like to see him get games at some point.
Hopefully see Barlaser on Sky Friday vs sunderland.
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He'll always have a career in the adult film industry.
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Reluctant to get a shirt with his name on the back because of the inescapable double entendre wind ups I'd expect to receive.
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Love how two footed the lad is, rare for a young player to be so comfortable with both feet has that Carrick type composure to go with it too.
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He's been great like, really impressive
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His development reminds me of Kane. Nobody expected them to make it in the Premier League, but decent coaching and taking their chances because of injury or poor form from other players has meant they have taken their opportunity.
Kane the wrestler, aye?
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Can we have this as a smug smiley?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzM97A4WkAAwKa0.jpg:large)
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Reluctant to get a shirt with his name on the back because of the inescapable double entendre wind ups I'd expect to receive.
Love how two footed the lad is, rare for a young player to be so comfortable with both feet has that Carrick type composure to go with it too.
Two foot Longstaff?
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The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.
Same with The Windasses.
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The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.
Same with The Windasses.
My neighbor is a Cockburn
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The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.
Same with The Windasses.
Wizards and Farters you’d imagine.
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Keep expecting him to come back down to earth solely because he's an academy kid of ours, but instead he's just getting better every game. Long may it continue, among all the terrible things about our club, would at least be nice to have an academy graduate starting at CM for the next few years.
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he's got a bit of everything in terms of his skill-set.
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Shame Merino left. This guy and Merino would've made an interesting duo in CM in the long term.
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I love reopening threads on Page one where people have been overly negative for no reason :lol:
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Shame Merino left. This guy and Merino would've made an interesting duo in CM in the long term.
feel like they are very much similar players - but hey ho, if it could work would be awesome.
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He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I love reopening threads on Page one where people have been overly negative for no reason :lol:
Complete opposite of Jacob Murphy thread. :lol:
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Few articles coming out saying that Longstaff is more of a holding defensive midfielder, which I guess I never really noticed - citing his ability to read play, cover a ton of ground, break up attacks, and quickly move the ball forward short and far as his main strengths. So if that's the case, could you pair him with a more offensive CM then? a Ki or Shelvey? Or is Longstaff really more like them and he needs a destroyer next to him?
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I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
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I wonder if he’s been told to focus on the defensive side in preparation for the return of Ki or Shelvey.
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He looks like he can do the lot to me. I think you could pair him with any of our midfielders TBH. I’d like to see him play alongside Ki the most i think.
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I def change my mind on him needing a strict holder like Hayden or Diame. Seeing him against City and Wolves he was really doing it all.
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I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.
With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.
Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.
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:thup: very good point.
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I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.
With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.
Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.
Huddersfield press so I’d like to see Longstaff and Ki play together but they won’t, he will stick with Hayden and Longstaff , he can’t afford slip ups, Rafa will grind this out.
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I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.
With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.
Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.
Huddersfield press so I’d like to see Longstaff and Ki play together but they won’t, he will stick with Hayden and Longstaff , he can’t afford slip ups, Rafa will grind this out.
Aye I’d like to see Ki come in for Huddersfield and Burnley, he played a big role in the 2 home wins in a row against Bournemouth and Watford.
Having saw how the new man at Huddersfield approached the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal they are going to be very very open which should suit us. Arsenal played our 3-4-2-1 system against them too and did them a lot of damage down the sides with the wing backs and on the counter with quick transitions, so could be the absolute ideal match for Almiron to make his home debut too. Just glad we arn’t playing a Palace next who can actually defend I think Burnley will be the hard nut to crack.
Hoping to see Rafa go with Ki with Diame or Longstaff vs Huddersfield :thup:
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More of a general point than anything else but I see Shelvey and Dummett getting closer to full fitness; Diame and Ki too. Perfect time to start getting everybody back with maximum competition for places from now until the season's end. Players rivaling one another for places has always had a very positive effect in Rafa's set-up; one of the benefits of his propensity to rotate: first teamers know their place isn't guaranteed.
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Dont mean to be rude to Dummett but fail to see what he can actually offer unless we return to 4 at the back
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Dont mean to be rude to Dummett but fail to see what he can actually offer unless we return to 4 at the back
Away from home, he would be solid.
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Dummett as the left wing back in a back 5 would be poo both home and away.
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Cant see it working. He plays too narrow. Would keep backing into Lejuene, pulling Almiron back into lwb and making it a back 6.
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Reminds me of an old matty longstaff 👍
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Hayden and Longstaff have played well and should keep their shirts imo.
They’re also the most athletic CMs we have and have allowe us to press higher up the pitch and to be more aggressive.
Shelvey would be the last of the midfield options based on performances this season.
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Reminds me of an old matty longstaff 👍
Isn’t Sean like four inches taller?
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Hayden and Longstaff have played well and should keep their shirts imo.
They’re also the most athletic CMs we have and have allowe us to press higher up the pitch and to be more aggressive.
Shelvey would be the last of the midfield options based on performances this season.
Hmm i dont think Rafa will be thinking that and neither am i, Shelvey would get another chance for me, he does need to step up though, he's been mediocre at best.
Longstaff and Shelvey for me.
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Most of us will probably admit that the first time we saw the Hayden/Longstaff pairing named we were very concerned, but there's no doubt the pair have performed way above what anyone expected during a very difficult run. Can't be anyone with black and white blood who isn't immensely proud of what Longstaff has achieved.
They'll still be out when the others are all fit but shouldn't be too concerned, like our central defender strength in depth they'll all be needed over a season.
Just a shame we couldn't get ourselves into a decent position by January so they can all be used to cover a busy league and cup schedule.
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I don’t think Shelvey comes straight back in at all.
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Longstaff and Ki for me.
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Plays without fear. One of the reasons we need him as we don’t seem to be able to turn it on when we need to against some of the s****.
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Longstaff and Ki for me.
I’d like to see this, but expect Ki and Diame.
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Live on total sport right now with Matty too
https://www.facebook.com/bbcnewcastle/videos/576181976191590/
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This kid is probably our best player at the moment. He’s class.
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Seems to be so brave on the ball, happy to try anything and isn't wasteful. Massively impressed by him.
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Better than Carrick
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Better than Gerrard
Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
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Better than Iniesta
Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Aye
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Lad is a total baller
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Was brilliant today!
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:notworthy:
Today should be all about Almiron who was very good, but it's all about this lad yet again. Faultless.
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Better than Paul Arnison
Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Aye
Possibly.
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This lad is gonna play for England and it won't be far in the future. So composed and unflustered when on the ball. :)
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For some reason i've been wanting him to play from very early on in the season, kept waiting for the cup games to watch him and now he's been best player, so much better than Diame who has a scary moment in him and Shelvey who is too lazy in midfield, both of them will have to work to get their place back.
Hayden has done a superb job playing alongside him as well.
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Our best midfielder atm.
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'Like a new signing' is a cliche but to have this unhyped kid 21-year-old come in from nowhere and boss every Premier League game so far..... we made two major signings last month.
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Giant of the game.
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Best player on the pitch today. And I’m shocked at his development, he seems to be getting better every game! These sort of things don’t happen to us at Newcastle. I don’t know how to feel.
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Best player on the pitch today. And I’m shocked at his development, he seems to be getting better every game! These sort of things don’t happen to us at Newcastle. I don’t know how to feel.
He'll have been sold before you can clarify your feelings, don't worry man ;)
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I'm impressed by the lad.
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First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
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MoTM for me today. He is just immense. Surely he cant keep this up? Wait he could actually get better than this :o
Certainly premature for the senior team but will be nice to see him in the u21s. Shame woodman isn't getting the game time to warrant a call up too.
Also although it's the wrong place have to credit Hayden too who has built up a great partnership.
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MoTM for me today. He is just immense. Surely he cant keep this up? Wait he could actually get better than this :o
Certainly premature for the senior team but will be nice to see him in the u21s. Shame woodman isn't getting the game time to warrant a call up too.
Also although it's the wrong place have to credit Hayden too who has built up a great partnership.
Southgate will be monitoring his progress - no doubt about it.
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Wish he'd scored that curler
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First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
This is such a horrendous comparision. Longstaff a much more natural footballer.
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Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.
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Wish he'd scored that curler
Would have been mint like.
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Wish he'd scored that curler
Would have been mint like.
If that had gone in and rondon had converted that sitter he would be a national talking point this weekend. So close. Keep this form up and the national plaudits are a matter of time. Pundits are already on it.
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Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.
Disappointing if he f***ing despises disabled people like.
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We've got our midfield Dummett
:dowie:
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First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
This is such a horrendous comparision. Longstaff a much more natural footballer.
Yeah, weird sentence. Longstaff has all the attributes needed to be a successful PL midfielder, Dummett doesn't have all the attributes needed to be a successful PL full-back.
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
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MoTM for me today. He is just immense.
Some of his one touch passes through the lines were superb.
Breaks things up so well too O0
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That tackle and cross for Rondon...
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
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This lad has real talent for what he does. He could be a top player, in a good side, in a few years, he has the potential to be a star. Don’t understand some of the comments I’ve read on here, I’m really excited by what I’ve seen so far. This lad looks the real deal for his position.
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Wonder how much he is on. Sometimes when a young lad gets a big contract they switch off like Aarons, I think Longstaff is a bit more level headed.
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First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
Our midfield Dummett? You're this board's Joselu...
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First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
Our midfield Dummett? You're this board's Joselu...
Ouch. :lol:
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Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.
He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.
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Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.
He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.
Agree fully
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Wonder how much he is on. Sometimes when a young lad gets a big contract they switch off like Aarons, I think Longstaff is a bit more level headed.
Is Longstaff on a long contract already or?
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If we had signed this lad for 25m and I was judging him based on his price tag, I'd say he was worth every penny.
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I will be honored to watch him play for ManU one day.
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
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(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/curb-your-enthusiasm.jpg?w=1000)
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.
Ah, fair enough, it didn't read that way earlier!
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I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.
Ah, fair enough, it didn't read that way earlier!
I've purposely kept quiet on him mind. I love a local lad playing for the club and get far too emotionally attached to them only to turn s*** or f*** off breaking my heart in the process. :lol:
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Dummett is a comfortable lower Prem full-back imo.
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Would make love to this Las if I had the chance
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Dummett is a comfortable lower Prem full-back imo.
In a system with no attacking responsibilities.
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Would make love to this Las if I had the chance
:serious:
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Neat , tidy, quality :cool:
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Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.
He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.
He really does look like a seasoned Premier midfielder like. Rafa's not someone to play a young local lad out of sentiment, he's keeping his place because he's doing a great job week in week out.
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That’s the thing now, you know Rafa and staff will make the right decisions about when to play him and give him the best possible advice. Stoked the lad is playing so well.
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He started alongside Diame in the pre season and they worked well together from what I saw, but that would be cruel on Hayden who has stepped up equally.
Just can’t see Shelvey getting back in. He’s not mobile enough.
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I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
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I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
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Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.
Disappointing if he f***ing despises disabled people like.
That didn’t start until he became Old Glenn Hoddle.
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I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
100% agree with you there my squire.
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Options :)
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I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
Shelvey will be binned in the summer and rightly so he's bang average. This lad has all the attributes he doesn't
He will turn into Rafas Geordie Stevie G if Rafa stays
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With Lejeune and Schar’s passing ability, he becomes less important.
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As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
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As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
Aye, but negates the need for a deep sitting playmaker.
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Having someone come through the academy and really make the most of his opportunity like he has is a breath of fresh air. Been really solid for us
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He's Mr Perpetual Motion.
He invites comparison with the greats, so I give you Colin Bell. (Ask your Dads)
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We’ve somehow found a gem here
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The new Jamie McClen
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The new Jamie McClen
If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy
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As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
This so called ability showed up like once or twice a game if you're lucky. We're way better off without him.
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As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
This so called ability showed up like once or twice a game if you're lucky. We're way better off without him.
Agree I think the shelvey bus has left
Diame aswel back up from now on-
Nice to have some options though- bar rondon and dubs have options every area now
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If he stays fit I won't bet against Shelvey. We are a different side with him starting imo. I'd love to see him and Matty in the middle, likewise Ki. Thats harsh on Hayden who is doing some unsung defensive work the previous two would struggle with. Shelvey with a bit more freedom to break forward would be excellent. He just seems a bit broken body wise this season but that is due to playing through the pain. Time will tell.
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Shelvey is very limited. You need to build the team around him and you know where the ceiling is. Meanwhile Longstaff is a lot more all round and you can partner him with different types of players or adopt different formations.
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This kid really does seem to be the real deal. He looks so calm and composed on the ball. Hayden seemed to be wondering forward too much in the second half. Excited to see how far he progresses this season.
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Very good point on the Chronicle podcast made by one of the pundits on it that we still haven't seen Longstaff's full repertoire. For once I agree with them. He can be devastating playing as an attacking mid, almost as a number 10. He's just such a talented footballer that he's been able to sit in that midfield and do a job following Rafa's instructions.
Hopefully we'll see him given licence to get forward more as every time he's anywhere near edge of the opponents' area something positive seems to happen for us.
He's been truly outstanding and worth the hype. Not surprising considering his talent.
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Sod the U21s, he should be in the full squad.
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Sod the U21s, he should be in the full squad.
He's ready, but there's no need to rush him. I think under Southgate's set-up, joining up with the U21s will suit him perfectly.
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Every game he seems to impress me more. I seriously hope this is the start of something good.
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Needs a new chant imo
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Would be great to see his brother make the first team so we could see two local brothers in the same team again for the first time since the legendary Ameobis.
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Needs a new chant imo
Aye, and not the ‘he’s one of our own’ one.
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Fast becoming one of my favourite players. Our upturn in form coincided with him coming into the side.
Doesn’t put a foot wrong and works his bollocks off.
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Needs a new chant imo
Aye, and not the ‘he’s one of our own’ one.
heard that on the stream yesterday, please no
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Already better than “hendo” and dier put together.
Well, will be one day.
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It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.
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It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.
Yeap, I'm finding it strange why he wasn't given an opportunity a little earlier now. Guessing he's just stepped up to the level when he needed to.
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His development has been similar to Kane at Spurs. Nobody expected Kane to become the player he is now, but with injuries and out of form players Kane took his opportunity just like Longstaff. We should remember Benitez did block Longstaff moving to Portsmouth on loan last summer so maybe he did see a good player in Longstaff, but wanted to ease him in much later in the season.
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It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.
This....
I thought bang average and will never make it, as ever Rafa knows, he is the modern midfielder personified.
Credit to his side kick Hayden mind.Some decent talent can’t even get in the match day squad now.
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That curler in the second half, man. What a goal that would have been.
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If you think that 3 of the 4 post hits were a chip the keeper after a brilliant one touch team move, a left footed volley thunder b****** and a right footed curler from outside the box you’d have some goal of the season candidates all in one bloody match.
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As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
Shelvey puts the team under enormous pressure when his every second touch is an attempted 50 yard Hollywood pass. They are great when they succeed but every time the pass doesn't come off, rest of the team have to work hard just to get the ball back. He has immense talent but I really hate his decision making.
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Havent full read the ladst few pages, but im slightly more exciting about him than Almiron atm, seems to do everything very well so are and it will be good to see just how good he can be.
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I was willing that shot inside the post; it was a tremendous effort and I think that moment really elevated my perception of him. He isn't just an academy product holding his own... nor is he just defying expectations with good performances... he's actively changing games and consistently looking like one of the very best players on the pitch. All this coming from centre-midfield as well, which is probably the most influential area of the pitch after centre-forward. Unbelievably difficult to make the step up and own a position like that in this league; we should be very excited.
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He has been incredible, can't quite believe it.
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He's had 68 appearances over the past two seasons with Kilmarnock and Blackpool. Playing time matters.
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Ashley will be champing at the bit to cash in on him already
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He's had 68 appearances over the past two seasons with Kilmarnock and Blackpool. Playing time matters.
:thup: uses his body relatively well given he’s a fairly whispish lad.
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Needs a new chant imo
The SC were chanting “his name’s Sean Longstaff and he loves the Toon” yesterday like, reviving Joey Barton’s chant.
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What’s wrong with a simple, ‘There’s only one Sean Longstaff’. It’s not like we use it for anyone else.
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What’s wrong with a simple, ‘There’s only one Sean Longstaff’. It’s not like we use it for anyone else.
walking along
dragging his schlong
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The new Jamie McClen
If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy
think clarkie was decent but a tad overrated tbh. think watson, thompson and even elliot (before he left us the first time) were better.
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The new Jamie McClen
If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy
think clarkie was decent but a tad overrated tbh. think watson, thompson and even elliot (before he left us the first time) were better.
Nah, Clark was better than all of those (though he played a different position to all of those) if he’d had any pace he’d have been top notch. A Sunday side I used to play for had our home games at the old training ground at Benwell for a while, Clark was playing for the young un’s on the pitch next to us at one of the games and I swear that our game stopped and watched as he went past about 5 opposition players with the minimum of fuss. He did really good jobs for the mackems and Fulham.
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Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
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Longstaff not only has what it takes downstairs in his feet to make it big, but more importantly he has what it takes upstairs in his head as well. Which combined is a rarity that should give us all a degree of confidence even at this early stage to get excited enough about.
Talent aside which he has demonstrated enough of, it’s his football brain that stands out the most. On and off the ball he reads the game so well, is so composed and he often makes the right decision.
Although not an obvious athlete in terms of physical strength, power and pace, he has the right athletic physique in terms of height and build coupled with high energy and mobility levels. Energy and mobility that enable him to get up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and compete physically with others without exerting himself to the point of running himself imo the ground.
Best of all though he has a rare temprement for an English player on and off the ball, especially a midfielder, and that rarity is self composure. He doesn’t panic, rush, or chase after the ball or man, he doesn’t play the ball out aimlessly whether deep or under pressure, instead always looking to play the ball out to a team-mate, to feet short or long, or into space short or long, forwards, sideways or backwards. He doesn’t rush into tackles either and has this knack that beliesmhis age and experience of being in the right place at the right time.
He’s been compared to Carrick by a few and I myself have compared him to Jordan Henderson, but looking back through the years, he reminds of of David Batty, not the Batty of Blackburn fame, a tough tackling defensive midfielder limited on the ball, but the Batty we saw under Keegan who was all of that and much more.
Regardless, he will become a top top player if he keeps working hard and keeps his feet on the ground because he has it all, especially upstairs.
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Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box
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Well, aye.
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he looks a class act like.
the lads only 21 so talking about his physique and stuff is a but strange for me, gerrard was a skinny whippet at 21 as well
im hoping he becomes a lampard/gerrard type
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Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box
“And this guy we call Giant”
“On account of him being 7’ 11” tall”
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he looks a class act like.
the lads only 21 so talking about his physique and stuff is a but strange for me, gerrard was a skinny whippet at 21 as well
im hoping he becomes a lampard/gerrard type
Jees....wouldn't that be heaven? Scared to even think about it....
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Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box
Really? I thought it was because he looked like the Saw villain.
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I thought it was due to his hobbie in woodcraft.
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I genuinely used to think it was because he was a bit of a div in a sort of "Here son, this jigsaw will keep you entertained." kind of way.
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I genuinely used to think it was because he was a bit of a div in a sort of "Here son, this jigsaw will keep you entertained." kind of way.
You were a bit of a jigsaw.
😉
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"Potentially a Rolls Royce of a player" according to Tyne Tees News, hard to argue.
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absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
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Really glad that Rafa has kept him in the side despite the senior lads being available again. He's earned the shirt and should absolutely keep it.
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absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
Is there a link to this?
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Pervert
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absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
Is there a link to this?
Not sure, I heard them while in the car. They were full of praise for the lad and rightly so, I think at one point they were saying he has to be in the England squad (a bit premature like but hey).
They were also speculating whether Rafa will stay next year.
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Crazy how relaxed he looks for such a young lad. Supoib.
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Xabi Alongstaff.
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Finish reminded me of Iniesta in the World Cup final
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Keown just said he’s better than that Rice kid at West Ham :lol: it’s all going too well
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Can't believe our luck getting the Michael Carrick regen come through our youth ranks.
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Can't believe our luck getting the Michael Carrick regen come through our youth ranks.
Touted the next Michael Carrick. One of the best players of his generation.
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Would have been a good chance he’d have won Player of the Month had it not been for Aguero.
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Fantastic tonight and so chuffed he scored at home.
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Declan Rice will be wishing he stuck with Ireland.
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He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.
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Buzzing for him getting his goal. He's been brilliant since he's come in to the team
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What a great day for Sean. Clinical finish and another great performance.
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Playing well, speaking well, buzzing for him.
:clap:
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Really like him. Taking his chance so well
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Comes across amazingly well in interviews. Seems a really sound, level headed guy. Future captain material.
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Delighted it's still going so well for him. He looks the real deal and that goal will do his confidence no harm whatsoever. Plays like he's got 10 year's professional experience under his belt.
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"It was a really good game, I knew it was going to be very tough but we took our chances in the first half and then the second half we kept their chances to a minimum.
"I say it everyday, I am in such a lucky position to be where I am, scoring and feeling the atmosphere tops it off.
"We know it is still very close and a couple of results can change it. We know we can change it by winning and it is a lot nicer to look up the table rather than down.
"I had about 10 people here, to have them here watching is a great night for me and the team.
"I can’t put the feeling into words just pure emotion. The atmosphere is amazing."
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Ridiculous how calm this lad is. Steps up to the first team, sprays balls all over the pitch, outplays man city's midfield and now has a thoroughly deserved goal. To top it off he handles the interview like a boss. I'd be a stuttering wreck and nervous as f***. Stuff of dreams for him. I'm over the moon for him :smitten:
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Where’s he from?
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North Shields.
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Another super, mature performance from the lad. Brilliant. :)
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So pleased he's growing each game, now chipping in with goals. Hope he is something special for us.
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North Shields.
Delish I lived in North Shields for a while. Gan on lad!
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He's a proper player like. So composed and looks as if he's been playing at this level for years.
Great finish too, delighted for him.
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Kid has everything for a midfielder.
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Especially impressed that he didn't let the knuckledraggers from Burnley get him sent off. Keep it up fella.
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Too many long rangy passes, no Thundering tackles, only scored once. Lucky to be in the squad.
(Keep his feet on the ground)
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There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
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He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.
Too bad it's not a tournament summer - be lovely to get a "bolter into the England" squad story about him :thup:
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There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
Yep, I noticed that, fair play to the lad, showed a lot of maturity to not jump in.
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There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
Thought exactly the same..he is cold as ice.
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He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.
Too bad it's not a tournament summer - be lovely to get a "bolter into the England" squad story about him :thup:
U21 Championships this summer - he'll be brought through for that before stepping up.
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Looks like he's been bossing premier league games for years! Class, composure and ability in absolute abundance paired with a great attitude and grounded mentality.
Took his goal really well, a very clever and subtle first touch to set it up perfectly for a crisp strike into the bottom corner.
It's easy to get carried away with young players coming through sometimes and get hopes up unrealistically high but it's difficult not to get excited by this lad, he doesn't only have the ability but he has the footballing nous and intelligence to go along with it, that's a rare quality in young footballers these days, plenty have ability, power, athleticism, pace etc but Longstaff reads the game extremely well and can therefore dictate and control play and contribute far more than most midfield players.
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There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
Thought exactly the same..he is cold as ice.
Seems to have a great temperament about him :thup:
Looks the real deal :smitten:
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Gone from 5th choice to 1st choice in such a short space of time, the pairing with Hayden works so well. Made me go from hoping Shelvey gets fit quickly to thinking he has no place in this system unless he massively changes his game. We have an absolute gem on our hands, keep it up young man
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absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
Is there a link to this?
https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1551110400/1551115800/
3 mins in
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Amazing how things progress, when I first came aware of him he never stood out for me and I don’t mean that in a derogatory way just that he was nothing spectacular. However the last few performances have been top drawer, his composure and presence in midfield have been a joy to watch at home and the hype is justified for me .
Talk of England is great for the lad and his boss seems intent on keeping him out the limelight, we have “stumbled “ on a terrific talent in the modern game of playing......good luck to the lad.
He will be worth a few quid now :naughty:
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He doing great. He was understandably a little reserved in the first game or two, but now he's hitting so many confident forward passes. He also repeatedly wins the ball back high up the pitch. He's playing like he's been in the first team for years, not ten games.
Just a little theory, but I reckon our season turned when Shelvey went off injured in that Watford home game. Ki came on and started playing 10 yards further forward than Shelvey had been. Unlike Shelvey, this allowed Ki to hit shorter passes to feet. Since then, we've been playing much better football, even when Ki went off to the Asian Cup. Lejeune has also come back and we now have Lejeune and Schar serving as deep-lying distributors, the main responsibility that had fallen on Shelvey. This means the role of our center mids has changed and it is now one that Longstaff and Hayden have taken to with relish. Given the holistic approach Rafa takes, I think it is fair to assume that our midfield is now getting to do what Rafa wanted it to do all along. The plan was never to have a midfielder take it off Cieran Clark or Lascelles and ping it somewhere with no-one to collect a second ball or offer an option to a lone forward with the ball.
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What a player this kid is going to be. Composure, stamina, anticipation and an eye for a pass. He’s got it all.
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His style reminds me a little of Ki, good touch and moves the ball so well.
On level 7 I sometimes mix him an Lejune up due to the boots and their silky touches/passing.
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His style reminds me a little of Ki, good touch and moves the ball so well.
On level 7 I sometimes mix him an Lejune up due to the boots and their silky touches/passing.
i actually thought we could have done with Ki in at times yesterday (not instead of longstaff mind) as their midfield did a decent job of pressuring ours when the ball went into them often forcing them to pass back to schar/lejuene or horizontally to the wingbacks...ki has a very useful knack of being able to turn out of pressure and into space that would have opened the game up a bit more for us i feel
i mean you can't complain, just something i noticed
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The brimful of asha chant is great.
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Sam Fender needs to write a song about him.
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https://www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-winner-lovely-surprise-sean-longstaff
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What a player this kid is going to be. Composure, stamina, anticipation and an eye for a pass. He’s got it all.
can pass with his left as well
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I have been very impressed with Sean Longstaff, I have the feeling he could be the next Rob Lee
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He doing great. He was understandably a little reserved in the first game or two, but now he's hitting so many confident forward passes. He also repeatedly wins the ball back high up the pitch. He's playing like he's been in the first team for years, not ten games.
Just a little theory, but I reckon our season turned when Shelvey went off injured in that Watford home game. Ki came on and started playing 10 yards further forward than Shelvey had been. Unlike Shelvey, this allowed Ki to hit shorter passes to feet. Since then, we've been playing much better football, even when Ki went off to the Asian Cup. Lejeune has also come back and we now have Lejeune and Schar serving as deep-lying distributors, the main responsibility that had fallen on Shelvey. This means the role of our center mids has changed and it is now one that Longstaff and Hayden have taken to with relish. Given the holistic approach Rafa takes, I think it is fair to assume that our midfield is now getting to do what Rafa wanted it to do all along. The plan was never to have a midfielder take it off Cieran Clark or Lascelles and ping it somewhere with no-one to collect a second ball or offer an option to a lone forward with the ball.
Nice theory, makes sense to me! Think this kid is an absolute gem, was so pleased for his goal yesterday.
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Midfielders taking the ball off defenders’ toes is always a bad sign for me. In the modern game you need some defenders who can play.
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5* potential on FM19. Somebody knew about this kid.
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The brimful of asha chant is great.
What replaces 'nutter in the middle'?
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Stottie, what a terrific post man.
There’s just something extra satisfying about the way this kid carries himself on the pitch. He’s so calm and his presence is massive. That finish was something you see a 20 goal striker would be proud of, settled down and lashed ruthlessly into the net. Reminded me of a Diego Costa goal from a few years ago.
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Stottie, what a terrific post man.
There’s just something extra satisfying about the way this kid carries himself on the pitch. He’s so calm and his presence is massive. That finish was something you see a 20 goal striker would be proud of, settled down and lashed ruthlessly into the net. Reminded me of a Diego Costa goal from a few years ago.
Agree with this. He looked almost frantic with excitement when he sensed the opportunity, but once he was in position it was a very composed finish. Seen a good few bright lights burn and fade but he just keeps defying that expectation. Getting better with each game.
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bored of saying it, but he's so much like Carrick
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Nah don’t be bored of it - carrick was generally a brilliant player. Incredible if he does it.
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I didn’t really think of Carrick until the comparison appeared in the media TBH. His style doesn’t really remind me of Carrick that much.
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This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance
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Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:
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Together with Hayden and our back three, we now have a real beast of a defence. I've just done the math - in the last 450 minutes of Premiership football, we've conceded only three goals (against Man City, Spurs and Wolves). One goal every two and a half hours. Outside the top six, we have nothing to fear with that behind us.
He's also boosted the attack with his passing. He doesn't need a steadying touch on the ball to pass accurately and that makes a big difference.
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I much prefer his play style to Carrick, much more progressive but is the way he moves on the ball that reminds of him
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Shelvey will be sold in the summer and this lad can have his shirt number.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11649315/sean-longstaff-is-newcastles-new-star-and-has-the-right-attitude-too
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This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance
Yup. If it weren't for injuries he would never have gotten a chance here either. Too much money at stake for managers to dare giving untested players a chance. In his Burnley post match interview Rafa said as much, although alluded that he would eventually have gotten a chance anyway but it was progressed faster due to injuries but I'm not so confident that this is the truth as it would have depended on how we were doing. No way he would have got a chance if relegation was still a possibility.
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Very odd comment on his Wiki page :lol:
Longstaff's younger brother Matthew is also a footballer currently playing for Newcastle United. Their father David is a former Great Britain ice hockey player, featuring over 100 times for the national side, and is still active as player/coach for the Whitley Warriors.[8] Their father is also the cousin of former England international Alan Thompson. Longstaff's mother also participates in sports such as Netball where she strangled a 15 year old with a bib.
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This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance
Yup. If it weren't for injuries he would never have gotten a chance here either. Too much money at stake for managers to dare giving untested players a chance. In his Burnley post match interview Rafa said as much, although alluded that he would eventually have gotten a chance anyway but it was progressed faster due to injuries but I'm not so confident that this is the truth as it would have depended on how we were doing. No way he would have got a chance if relegation was still a possibility.
Wouldn’t be anywhere near the squad but for injuries
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Is Shelvey still injured or just not making the squad?
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Injuries have definitely helped Longstaff BUT there must be a reason Rafa didn't let him leave on loan to Pompey. Turned out to be a great decision.
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I didn’t really think of Carrick until the comparison appeared in the media TBH. His style doesn’t really remind me of Carrick that much.
Reminds me more of a young Andy Cole!
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He reminds me of Pirlo but better.
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Hes nee Jack Colback
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Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:
It's slanderous. I've seen Longstaff pass it forward.
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I have been very impressed with Sean Longstaff, I have the feeling he could be the next Rob Lee
Did anyone get spot this classic reference or am I the only one who remembers HTT posts from what must be nearly 15 years ago :lol:
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Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:
It's slanderous. I've seen Longstaff pass it forward.
hahahah, its the way he moves, I agree though. Much more positive and attacking threat
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I get the Carrick comparisons but only inn the coolness and tempo way. Reminds me a little of Woodgate defensively in that he just edges opposition out rather than blockbuster challenges.
Got to wonder if Rafa would have used him if he wasn't forced ?
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Gets in the opposition area a lot more than Carrick did.
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Hes nee Jack Colback
Thank f***.
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I get the Carrick comparisons but only inn the coolness and tempo way. Reminds me a little of Woodgate defensively in that he just edges opposition out rather than blockbuster challenges.
Got to wonder if Rafa would have used him if he wasn't forced ?
Who cares, sometimes life throws a curve ball and it turns out great, this was it, you get a chance and boom you take it....the likes of Armstrong didn’t and Rooney did.(granted one had more ability than the other)
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Hes nee Jack Colback
Thank f***.
Hope this puts to bed the knock the local lads myth. Colback was a bell and utter s*** - Dummett is a nice lad and an athlete but has his limitations. In a larger squad he has a place. People love this lad and respect his attitude and application.
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Love seeing this guy do his thing for us! He’s class and so great to have a midfielder come through the academy for once.
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Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
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No pressure there then!
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Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?
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Had to go and ruin a good post. :lol:
The new owners will never sell him.
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Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?
Sancho will likely come back here or to someone like Real Madrid too in the next few years.
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Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
In terms of their composure on the ball, their ability to make space for themselves under pressure and their efficiency with the ball, they are very similar. I can see where the comparisons are coming from even if their playing styles are different.
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I feel like we should calm down a bit.
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Best Newcastle fan to represent the first team since the great Alexandr Mitrovic left and you’re saying, ‘calm down’.
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He reminds me of Lampard somewhat. Constantly turning his head to keep track of players around him.
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I feel like we should calm down a bit.
First thing we've had to get excited about in years and you want us to calm down?! f*** that, i'm getting his face tattooed on my arse
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I feel like we should calm down a bit.
First thing we've had to get excited about in years and you want us to calm down?! f*** that, i'm getting his face tattooed on my arse
:lol:
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Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Been watching athletics and so read that as 100 metres. He's long, but not that long!
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The posts about how he has some better attributes than Michael Carrick would say aye, just a bit like. :lol: Similarly the ones about not needing Shelvey anymore.
He's been a revelation, I just think there's no rush, he looks like he has what it takes though.
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His song selection is pretty rubbish like, we need to work on it.
We were short-staffed,
Now we're long-staffed
(To sit down, shut up/play up Pompey)
We trained him at John Spence
To batter your defence
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
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The brimful of asha one is canny imo, dont think I've heard that used for a chant before and I prefer originality to changing the words to something everyone's singing
Was used by us for Joey Barton wasn’t it? Nutter instead of Geordie though.
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The brimful of asha one is canny imo, dont think I've heard that used for a chant before and I prefer originality to changing the words to something everyone's singing
Was used by us for Joey Barton wasn’t it? Nutter instead of Geordie though.
Just realised that and thought I'd gotten away with it 😔
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I feel like we should calm down a bit.
:thup:
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I feel like we should calm down a bit.
This. He's played 7 premier league games
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Definitely, he's playing well, just keep supporting him and hopefully he can keep progressing.
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If you can't get overly excited about a homegrown wunderkid coming through the ranks of your team, hitting the ground sprinting and being talked up in the media as an England prospect, why are we here?
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To ensure we get 40 points every season and get good exposure for Sports Direct. Keep up mate.
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It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.
Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.
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It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.
Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.
:thup:
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Imagine the reaction on here if some Mackem had said one of their kids who'd played less than 10 times for the first team would be England's first £100m player :lol:
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It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.
Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.
To be honest, he looks like a key player already. He's strengthened the defence and helped to give us a proper counter-attacking game. We're not just hoofing it forward.
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Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?
Spurs and Man City will be holding out for £200M, Ashley will accept the first offer he gets.
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10 year contract please
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Full confidence the lad could cure Brexit
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Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?
The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.
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The way he moves and his size is similar to Carrick. Hope he doesn't end up playing really deep as he has great technique on his shots
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Player of the millennium imo
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Miss Universe 2019. She can still play for the toon though, yeah?
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Had to go and ruin a good post. :lol:
The new owners will never sell him.
was tongue in cheek tbf :lol:
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His song selection is pretty rubbish like, we need to work on it.
We were short-staffed,
Now we're long-staffed
(To sit down, shut up/play up Pompey)
We trained him at John Spence
To batter your defence
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
I need some Longstaff baby this evenin
I want some Longstaff baby tonight
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Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?
The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.
That's not what I meant. I just think he's more attack minded than Carrick was. Not suggesting he's better or even close to him yet. If he were to reach that level though, he would be scoring and assisting more simply because he's a more attack minded player.
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What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
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(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/stillgame/images/4/4f/Nintchdbpict000277715549.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180325204901)
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Tbf he's not exactly good looking. Him and Almiron are a far cry from out season in the 5th
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Schar > Newcastle squad 11/12
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What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
:lol:
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What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
Reminds me of David Batty in that pic.
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We need to get voting on this.
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What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
:lol:
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What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
"Hey John can you do the stats for Newcastle's youth players"
"Awww man....hmmm I have an idea"
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lUJ1YoZB1lHVPG/giphy.gif)
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Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?
The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.
That's not what I meant. I just think he's more attack minded than Carrick was. Not suggesting he's better or even close to him yet. If he were to reach that level though, he would be scoring and assisting more simply because he's a more attack minded player.
I think he looks more like a Frank Lampard type of player.
Calm on the ball, good decisions, good passer and a good shot.
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He was the best centre midfielder on the pitch away to Chelsea, Spurs and at home to Man City, Huddersfield, Burnley (Haven't seen his other few games).
I'd say it is worth getting carried away. To see a footballer who has virtually no experience of the top flight dominate some of the best footballers in the league if not the world is a rare sight. He stood out like a sore thumb against Huddersfield and Burnley, streets ahead of what they have. He oozes class and his composure is something I haven't seen for Newcastle for a very, very long time. The way he just pushes players off the ball and gets out of sticky situations then puts us on the front foot is beautiful.
:coolsmiley:
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Not sure why there's such an obsession with trying to say which former player he's gonna be like? Let him be his own player. Likes to win the ball back, makes himself available for the ball, good range of passing, great stamina, doesn't panic and got a decent cross and shot on him.
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He's the new Sean Longstaff
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We need to get voting on this.
If there wouldnt be any Liverpool players available hed might have a shot. Liverpool fans are trying so hard to be passionate that it becomes embarrassing for everyone involved. Like when they voted Salahs goal against Everton to be goal of the year, probably as they couldnt stand the idea of Bales goal against them in the CL final getting any more recognition
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The constant debate building up to the West Ham game about who’s better out of him and Declan Rice is weird. Championing who will be better for England... it’s embarassing.
It’s definitely Longstaff.
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I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?
Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.
Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.
This lad knew.
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His range of passing is really excellent. And he can run a bit. Defensively aware.
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His range of passing is really excellent. And he can run a bit. Defensively aware.
did well after a dodgy start on the ball i thought, which was encouraging
people comparing him to rice pre-game...now i've seen more of rice i don't know why as longstaff seems much better on the ball and rice much better defensively from limited viewing
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I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.
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I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.
Agreed. I honestly thought the ref was gonna book Snodgrass.
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Another case of the player who pretends to be the most injured gets away with it
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Jonjo hiding the instruments what done the deed.
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He’s far more attacking minded than Rice, if anything they would make a great pairing for England at some point down the line.
Didn’t have a great half today. West Ham just swarmed us out the wings so it was impossible to keep the ball.
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Please be ok and just a precaution.
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Thought he was lucky to only get a yellow today, have seen other refs go red due to the speed he went into that tackle
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Any news on the lad?
Will be like a new signing when he’s back
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I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.
Agreed. I honestly thought the ref was gonna book Snodgrass.
It was a 50/50 at best, they both did the same thing. Yellow was very harsh.
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Thought he was lucky to only get a yellow today, have seen other refs go red due to the speed he went into that tackle
I've watched the replay and even in slomo it's difficult to see what happens, because it's so fast. So I wouldn't have been surprised by a red. But if you look at the shape of Longstaffs legs just before the tackle, it was perfectly legit.
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Never a red card in million years, yellow was harsh imo as well. Aye he got there second but not every tackle is a booking, not that you would think the way the game is officiated now but Longstaff tackle was genuine, without excessive force and wasn't in anyway studs up.
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It was a 50/50 ball, no one really did a foul. I’m kind of sick of the mentality that just because you make contact and don’t get the ball it’s an automatic foul and at least a yellow card. It makes 50/50 balls impossible to go for, it would also mean that any shoulder barge is now an automatic foul.
West Ham played the referee well yesterday, but the referee wanted to be played by them. Any sort of contact or even if it looked like we were going to make contact then they went down and the referee was giving it.
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the only red that should've been given was for that c*** Noble.
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Bloody Snodgrass did a job on longstaff so called professionals should be banned from playing.
He was probably told to get something on longstaff from the start.
They never change west ham dirty bast***
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It was a 50/50 challenge begging to be contested which both players were committed to which didn’t result in winning the ball, but taking each other out in a coming together that looked worse than it was. There was no nasty stuff or intent to injure each other much less they themselves, but that’s what happened. It was the equiverlent of a clash of heads really with no guilty party or anyone at fault more than the other. There should have been no yellow card at all, but if you are to card one, you have to card both. The referee was poor throughout, no surprises there...
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Longstaff has demonstrated he loves going in for a challenge, but he also showed last week (when on a yellow) that he's smart enough to know when not to go in. If he can keep up that sort of judgement, he's going to be genuine class - even if it means he gets the odd yellow from stupid refs who don't know the rules.
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I thought the challenge was a little naive. It favoured Snodgrass 70-30 imo. But Longstaff has long determined he was going for it. No biggie.
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Couldn’t give a single f*** about the card or challenge. Just hope his lay-off is minimal to none. Hes been so bloody good for us.
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Bloody Snodgrass did a job on longstaff so called professionals should be banned from playing.
He was probably told to get something on longstaff from the start.
They never change west ham dirty bast***
He’s a horrible c***, Snodgrass.
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I’ve heard from a good source that it looks like he’s out for the season and it could be ligament damage FFS
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Of course. We can't have nice things.
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Shame, but hope he concentrates on being 100% for next season. There's f*** all to play for this season.
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Shame, but hope he concentrates on being 100% for next season. There's f*** all to play for this season.
Tell that to the guy who might be missing out on an England place because of injury
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God damn it. Football is so annoying at times man.
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Of course. We can't have nice things.
:lol: It really is like that though innit?
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SOFT c***
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I’ve heard from a good source that it looks like he’s out for the season and it could be ligament damage FFS
Typical.
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s***.
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?s=20
s***.
Next season then. Hope Rafa sends him to the same specialist that helped Lejeune.
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Cruel.
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We just can't have nice things. Devastating, if true :(
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Apparently only 6-8 weeks if he doesn’t need surgery :thup:
Seems a decision will be made based on what the specialist suggests.
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Of course. We can't have nice things.
:lol: It really is like that though innit?
It is. :jesuswept:
There's been very few extremely bright lights during the last 10 dark years for me (if we go beyond a couple of results and a handful of decent players who has used us a stepping stone to keep me going):
1. Carroll - Sold at the first and best opportunity
2. Ben Arfa - Got his leg snapped in half and neglected by a turd manager after Houghton was replaced.
3. Now it's Longstaff. Wait for a new manager to come in and never use him properly ever again.
4. Rafa Benitez - Just waiting for the inevitable this summer
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Such a pisser. Hopefully he'll get a proper pre season.
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Real shame for the lad, looking forward to seeing him back.
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Shame, was probably looking at an international tournament with the U21s this summer too.
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Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger. O0
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Gutted for the lad, but at least Diame and Ki are fit now so we have options.
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It's actually 2 months, at least he will be fine for pre season.
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Ki, Shelvey and Diame aren't exactly the worst replacements in the world. Gutted for Longstaff, like.
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Not great, but at least some of it's during the summer.
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Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger. O0
This can never be classed as a blessing like
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Knew all of our excitement about him will end up with something like this, he's a hero regardless and can't wait to have him back.
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Played his last game for Rafa
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Played his last game for Rafa
Is there any need? :lol:
Joeyt brightening up everyone's day.
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Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on
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Aye Snodgrass doesn't have a history of getting bad injuries
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Aye Snodgrass doesn't have a history of getting bad injuries
What point are you trying to make?
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Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger. O0
This can never be classed as a blessing like
Maybe wrong choice of word but burn out quickly could have happened, he will comeback 1st game of season strong and hungry.
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Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on
Are you saying that you think Snodgrass injured Sean on purpose ?
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One of the few very limited positives this season has been watching him get his chance and get better every game.
Fingers crossed he recovers well and earns his place back next season.
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I'm not that concerned about the injury. Doesn't seem 'that' bad. Just more concerned that he'll be put back with the U23's when he comes back by some dinosaur like Allardyce.
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Always due something like this after Almiron escaped injury with Smith though.
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Why the hell does these things never happen to the players that we're not that fussed about? :lol:
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Why the hell does these things never happen to the players that we're not that fussed about? :lol:
Because the likes of Colback and Joselu never exert themselves enough to be a in dangerous situation like that. Ginger Jack would have bottled the tackle and let Snodgrass take control.
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Reminds me of a young Darren Anderton
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I do think that challenge was unnecessary.
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Reminds me of a young Darren Anderton
:lol::lol:
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Reduces his chances of being sold. Yay.
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I had the same initial thought Beren, very sad.
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Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on
Are you saying that you think Snodgrass injured Sean on purpose ?
No, I'm saying in a 50/50 challenge the young local lad* who plays for Newcastle gets hurt, loses momentum in his breakthrough season, and the elder midfielder who plays for a club I couldn't care about continues on.
*who happens to be nominated for PL player of month, getting looks for England, scored his first PL goal at home match prior, was bossing matches, etc.
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Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger. O0
This can never be classed as a blessing like
Maybe wrong choice of word but burn out quickly could have happened, he will comeback 1st game of season strong and hungry.
He only came into the team in January and he's 21, I doubt any kind of burn out would have occurred, I imagine he'll have just got stronger.
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Sigh.
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Hopefully he will make a speedy recovery and that will be that, we've got some decent options still in the middle even though I don't really care much for Shelvey, but we know Diame and Ki are more than capable especially with Almiron coming into the fold and taking the pressure off.
Hopefully he'll be back raring to go for pre-season and even stronger for the start of next season.
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We’re not allowed nice things are we :(
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Hope he comes back strong. Chance he may have missed his chance. Unlucky as f***.
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He's been key to making the formation work. Wonder if Rafa will change the formation now as for me Diame isn't a like for like - gutting
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He's been key to making the formation work. Wonder if Rafa will change the formation now as for me Diame isn't a like for like - gutting
Wouldn't say I agree with that. He's just been the fairly typical centre-mid all-rounder you see in virtually all formations. He'll be a loss, because he's played well, but probably the most 'expendable' cos we've got natural replacements of a similar standard. Ki's the most obvious but it'll probably be Diame, which is fine, cos there'll be a physical scrap in the middle today.
Gonna be tough, everyone will have to be on their game.
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Rice won his first call-up for the senior England squad.
Wonder if Sean didn't get injured would he get one now? Or is it just the hype around Rice?
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Hasn't Rice been playing well all season?
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Probably Rice would have shaded it this time, early days though. Henderson, Dier and Delph are all fairly pointless.
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Probably Rice would have shaded it this time, early days though. Henderson, Dier and Delph are all fairly pointless.
Totally agree with that.
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Always liked Rice - Cannonball was a cracking tune
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Always liked Rice - Cannonball was a cracking tune
She had a lovely bum too
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Come home sweet prince.
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Was absolutely integral to us. Miss him massively.
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He is playing his first season at this level and honestly players like KI and Diame look like such a downgrade on him, can't wait to have him back.
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He's not coming back this season.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sean-longstaff-injury-newcastle-united-16077651
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He's not coming back this season.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sean-longstaff-injury-newcastle-united-16077651
Wouldn’t make sense to bring him back now unless he were 100%. Keep him on ice and get him ready for the start of next season.
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We went to s*** without him.
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We went to s*** without him.
Correct. He’s our best midfielder. Thanks Mike.
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Our CM options are absolutely chronic like. This guy is head and shoulders above anything we’ve had since Cabaye (albeit they’re totally different players)
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His emergence is the only redeeming thing in another miserable s*** fight of a wasted season, and if we hadn't had injuries I'm not sure Rafa would have ever picked him.
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His emergence is the only redeeming thing in another miserable s*** fight of a wasted season, and if we hadn't had injuries I'm not sure Rafa would have ever picked him.
Aye, we exist as a team to purely survive in the league, I will not pay £600 for the privilege anymore, which means the Liverpool game is my last for a long time.
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Had he stayed fit I think we’d be safe by now. IMO.
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How did we get to a situation where we have five centre midfielders with about 200 caps between them, and we seem lost without the one who has played less than ten premier league matches?
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How did we get to a situation where we have five centre midfielders with about 200 caps between them, and we seem lost without the one who has played less than ten premier league matches?
Because the other ones are average at best.
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Had he stayed fit I think we’d be safe by now. IMO.
If Kenedy had struck his penalty properly against Cardiff, rather than f***ing about, we'd be safe now.
Fine margins :)
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Ha true
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Why do i keep hearing from people that Rafa somehow stumbled upon this kid cos we had an injury crisis? Longstaff clearly stated in one of his interviews that he went to see Rafa about getting a loan move at the start of the season and Rafa said he was going nowhere as he was going to need him.
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Because he didn't get a chance until there were no other choices left?
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The point was that Rafa obviously thought he could do a job for him. He was on the bench for about 5 games before we had an injury crisis. He was being eased in.
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I mean, he can rate Longstaff and also prefer a more experienced player in most games. They aren't mutually exclusive. If a manager likes a young player he doesn't necessarily chuck them straight in every game.
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I mean, he can rate Longstaff and also prefer a more experienced player in most games. They aren't mutually exclusive. If a manager likes a young player he doesn't necessarily chuck them straight in every game.
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That’s it like. Also, i think Rafa likes to show his more senior players a good amount of respect and doesn’t just dump them for a rookie if they’ve had a couple of bad games. Players will appreciate things like that i’d imagine.
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I think it's pretty clear from Rafas choices and interviews about Longstaff that if we hadn't had injuries he would still not been given more than a few minutes at the tail end of games where his introduction would have little to no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe he would get a chance once PL status had been confirmed. It doesn't matter if he rates Longstaff or not as long as he doesn't give him an opportunity.
While senior players might appreciate being selected based on seniority, it will be equally frustrating for younger players who see every day in training that they are on par or better than their peers and not get an opportunity. Key is a balance between the two, but in this age of top league football, nurturing unproven talent is a risk the vast majority of managers, Rafa included, are not prepared to take unless it is blatantly obvious that they have a special player on their hands.
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We can expect to use 2-3 players in each position per season so the stage was inevitably set for Longstaff to make an appearance at some point.
We can never have a youngster who is completely guaranteed a certain number of games, they have to take the opportunities that are afforded.
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why does it matter if he stumbled upon him or not? when he finally was called upon he looked one of our best CMs on the books.
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I think it's pretty clear from Rafas choices and interviews about Longstaff that if we hadn't had injuries he would still not been given more than a few minutes at the tail end of games where his introduction would have little to no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe he would get a chance once PL status had been confirmed. It doesn't matter if he rates Longstaff or not as long as he doesn't give him an opportunity.
While senior players might appreciate being selected based on seniority, it will be equally frustrating for younger players who see every day in training that they are on par or better than their peers and not get an opportunity. Key is a balance between the two, but in this age of top league football, nurturing unproven talent is a risk the vast majority of managers, Rafa included, are not prepared to take unless it is blatantly obvious that they have a special player on their hands.
Are you suggesting Rafa’s handling of Longstaff was wrong? I’d say judging by the lad’s performances he got it bang on. Yes i i would’ve been great if he’d come into the side earlier and played brilliantly but you can’t guarantee that would’ve happened. Longstaff came into the side without a senior player breathing down his neck and appeared to play with a freedom that he might not have had in a different situation.
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He didn't get it bang on because it wasn't planned. Rafa didn't really do anything wrong, but you can't say he did something good either. He didnt have anyone else to throw in so -had- to rely on a youth player. I am very certain that if we had a fringe senior player fit to play he would have gotten the nod over Longstaff at the time.
It's not meant as critisism of Rafa as much as it is for player development in general these days. Too much on the line for managers (especially the calulated ones such as Rafa) to gamble on someone unproven.
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He was in Shark Bar watching the champions league tonight.
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He didn't get it bang on because it wasn't planned. Rafa didn't really do anything wrong, but you can't say he did something good either. He didnt have anyone else to throw in so -had- to rely on a youth player. I am very certain that if we had a fringe senior player fit to play he would have gotten the nod over Longstaff at the time.
It's not meant as critisism of Rafa as much as it is for player development in general these days. Too much on the line for managers (especially the calulated ones such as Rafa) to gamble on someone unproven.
You mean someone like Saivet or Colback? Both players with tons more experience but got sent out on loan instead of Longstaff, even though Longstaff approached Rafa asking for a loan move.
I agree with your 2nd paragraph about youth players in general, i just don’t think it particularly applies in this case as it’s fairly obvious Rafa knew there was a good chance he would be ready at some point this season.
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why does it matter if he stumbled upon him or not? when he finally was called upon he looked one of our best CMs on the books.
He didn't. Longstaff featured in pre-season and Rafa managed him excellently having realised his potential (probably from last season too) by giving him the odd appearance here and there - hence why he then slotted into the side seamlessly. IMO, Rafa is also to be credited there.
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The odd appearance? He didn't play until 26th of December when he got 17 minutes at the end of a 4-0 trashing by Liverpool where there was 0 risk of putting him in.
After that he was out of the squad the next game, and was only put in again because of injuries/internationals not being available.
Benitez said after the Burnley match that Longstaff was lucky because he got his chance "sooner rather than later because of injuries". To me that indicates that he was not in the plans to be used until there was nothing left to fight over in the league - which may never have been the case if we were still in a relegation fight.
Credit to Longstaff for taking his chance, and credit to Benitez for keeping him in the side when the easy choice many other managers would have made was to give the spot back to more experienced players. To give Benitez credit for giving Longstaff an opportunity however I don't see how you can justify.
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Put it simple. Would Longstaff get his chance to shine if we didn’t have injury crisis? And in that case, what would happen to Sean?
What Rafa should be credited is his instructions given to Sean which helps him to settle down ASAP. However in terms of “planning for development”, no, I am with Conjo.
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Actively stopped him going back on loan and moved him to train with the first team, meaning when an opportunity came he was primed and ready for it.
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What point are people trying to make man lol
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Rafa is not God.
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I heard he, Rafa - if that is his real name, wouldn't put him on the bench until he renounced steak bakes in favour of carne empanadas.
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Actively stopped him going back on loan and moved him to train with the first team, meaning when an opportunity came he was primed and ready for it.
You could argue that actively stopping him going back on loan, in the event that his opportunity didn't come, was also a gamble and it could just as well have been counter productive to his development.
Rafa is irreplaceable for us at the moment. Rafa does enough good that deserves praise. He doesn't need credit for stuff that turned out well down to coincidence and a good player.
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At what point does coincidence become evidence? He's done it enough times now for it to not be coincidence.
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What other times are you talking about?
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His entire philosophy is centred around improving players, so suggesting that he stumbled upon Longstaff contradicts that really when we already know that he knows all of the players at all levels at NUFC. It might have been a gamble, but what isn't when bringing new players in?
If you want examples of other players - Lascelles, Dummett, Diame, Hayden, Perez, Rondon have all improved immeasurably under Rafa.
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Maybe I don't understand the point you're trying to make, so apologies up front if that's the case, but:
Lascelles - Was a young player that got a chance due to injuries/suspesions similar to Longstaff
Dummett - Already a first team player
Diame - Bought by Benitez
Hayden - Bought by Benitez
Perez - Already a first team player
Rondon - Loaned by Benitez
I fail to see how Benitez has done anything more than getting lucky that Longstaff took his chance when it coincidentally presented itself.
I'm not saying Benitez was unaware of Longstaff, as evidenced by him being on the bench for a few matches before he was subbed in at the end of December against Liverpool, but it is clear that he didn't think he was good enough to start, and was prioritized a head of others on the bench as well.
I agree that Benitez is a good coach that improves/gets the best out of his players, that's not my point at all and not what I'm contesting.
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I believe there is a difference between “making players performing well under his system” and “improving players”.
Whilst many people here believe it’s the latter, most of my Liverpool friends hold the view that it should be former.
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Maybe I don't understand the point you're trying to make, so apologies up front if that's the case, but:
Lascelles - Was a young player that got a chance due to injuries/suspesions similar to Longstaff
Dummett - Already a first team player
Diame - Bought by Benitez
Hayden - Bought by Benitez
Perez - Already a first team player
Rondon - Loaned by Benitez
I fail to see how Benitez has done anything more than getting lucky that Longstaff took his chance when it coincidentally presented itself.
I'm not saying Benitez was unaware of Longstaff, as evidenced by him being on the bench for a few matches before he was subbed in at the end of December against Liverpool, but it is clear that he didn't think he was good enough to start, and was prioritized a head of others on the bench as well.
I agree that Benitez is a good coach that improves/gets the best out of his players, that's not my point at all and not what I'm contesting.
You could just as easily argue that it was only a coincidence that other players were out at the same time as Longstaff was ready if you're going down the speculative route. Particularly as the only evidence we have is that Rafa had brought him into the first team when there were still other experienced midfielders available.
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I don't think they're mutually exclusive. He can improve players while also get them playing well in his system
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Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
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Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.
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Wasn't he also given a new contract before he started featuring regularly?
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Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.
Longstaff was lucky to get a chance, and Rafa got lucky that Longstaff turned out to be our best central midfielder. Many talents have emerged due to luck, and many talents have been squandered due to bad luck.
If Rafa knew that he was our best midfielder, surely he'd be playing earlier same way as f.ex Almiron went straight into the side when he arrived.
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Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.
Longstaff was lucky to get a chance, and Rafa got lucky that Longstaff turned out to be our best central midfielder. Many talents have emerged due to luck, and many talents have been squandered due to bad luck.
If Rafa knew that he was our best midfielder, surely he'd be playing earlier same way as f.ex Almiron went straight into the side when he arrived.
I don't think he's our best midfielder (not based on 9 games anyway), so I'm not sure where to go from here :lol:
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Should have put "based on the games he did play" but that's a whole other discussion I'm not devoting time to so let's just end it on that note :lol:
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Everyone got lucky. This board aswell constantly agreed with the mantra though. Plenty suggested you can't give a young striker a go ahead of Joselu because it's too big a step up.
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Class!
https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/a-great-experience-sean-longstaff-watches-magpies-game-with-fans-in-canada
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:aww:
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Please come back better and hungrier and claim the midfield spot as yours next season. Only got to see 2-3 games where he played this season, but looks like he has the tools and seemingly the attitude to become something really special for this club.
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Future captain!!!
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Please come back better and hungrier and claim the midfield spot as yours next season. Only got to see 2-3 games where he played this season, but looks like he has the tools and seemingly the attitude to become something really special for this club.
100%. He was basically one of our best players when he had that run in the team, and think we'd be a few places higher up the table had he stayed fit. Also f*** Snodgrass man!
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Horseshit
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New contract incoming..........
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Not a chance Man Utd would be interested in him, and if they were after a player like him then they would go for Rice who West Ham have pretty much confirmed is for sale.
Player contract renewals are postponed until Rafa’s situation is clear, including Longstaff’s. SSN just trying to make a story out of it.
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Straight swap for Pogba and Shaw or f*** off.
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Seems those Carrick comparisons were apt.
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I could see them going for him tbh
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:( It's like Haman all over again.
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So that's every midfielder other than Ki going.
Welcome back, Jack!
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I could see them going for him tbh
same here, solksjaer copying fergie style getting young players from PL clubs before they get mint
they could do with rice as well probably but the comparisons are lazy they're f*** all alike...longstaff more like a pobga replacement on the ball who will graft as well
hope he stays forever with rafa, goes without saying
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I could see them going for him tbh
Aye wouldn’t be surprised if they had Carrick watch him.
If they scouted both Rice and Longstaff I would go for Longstaff too far better all round skill set.
Would prefer them to go for media perception though :'(
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If they scouted both Rice and Longstaff I would go for Longstaff too far better all round skill set.
rice and longstaff would be an outstanding midfield pair imo
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I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
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Ki to be a one-man midfield dynamo next season by the looks of it.
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I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
if rafa f***s off i'd like to think he'd do the same for the good of his career, whoever the next pardew is could see him disappear from existence
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Anyone else bored of the summer break yet?
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I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
if rafa f***s off i'd like to think he'd do the same for the good of his career, whoever the next pardew is could see him disappear from existence
Aye, this is on the assumption that Rafa might stay. If Rafa goes I wouldn't begrudge anyone wanting to leave tbh.
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I can see them wanting him 100%. He's exactly what they need imho.
Carrick link being no coincidence it seems.
I hate to say it, but this has Carroll written all over it, in terms of huge profit for absolutely minimal investment. If they offered north of £20m Mike would get the chopper fired up within 3 milliseconds.
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I can see them wanting him 100%. He's exactly what they need imho.
Carrick link being no coincidence it seems.
I hate to say it, but this has Carroll written all over it, in terms of huge profit for absolutely minimal investment. If they offered north of £20m Mike would get the chopper fired up within 3 milliseconds.
This.
Fat blokes denim baggies will be flapping like f*** when he gets wind of it
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I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
:lol: See: Carroll, A. Hate to break it to you but there's absolutely no loyalty in the game.
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Think there are legs in this one Fergie would like him and would have no hesitation in recommending him even after so few games.
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It's clearly planted on our side so we can say "Well we didn't buy anyone but we did manage to hold onto Longstaff so it's a good window."
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The kid’s not even back from injury yet. Why would anyone buy him now when he might not come back the same player?
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Calm down girls!
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He lives round the corner from me, he's a proper local lad from all accounts and wouldn't want to move away at this stage of his career. But money talks and 8f we don't offer a decent deal for him to stay then who knows. Saying that, manure are s***. Should be aiming higher.
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We need to put a massive release clause in his contract. Something north of £100m. That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.
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We need to put a massive release clause in his contract. Something north of £100m. That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.
Or just not put one in at all
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Imagine the embarrassment it would give them if he turned them down like Shearer :bluestar:
It would lead them to sing about another Geordie for 50 years :lol:
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We need to put a massive release clause in his contract. Something north of £100m. That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.
Naahh. Would probably just get £20m for signings and another £10m for wages to cover the contract period of the signings. The rest of the money is Fat Mike's.
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It's clearly planted on our side so we can say "Well we didn't buy anyone but we did manage to hold onto Longstaff so it's a good window."
This. Its just so f***ing transparent at this point too :lol:
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Anyone else bored of the summer break yet?
Yep.
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Longy will turn out to be a Busquets type player, am not saying he is going to be that good, but similar styles.
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So that's every midfielder other than Ki going.
Welcome back, Jack!
Don't call it a Colback
I've been here for years
I'm rocking my peers
Puttin' suckers in fear
Makin' the tears rain down like a monsoon
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Not worried. He's staying.
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If Rafa goes we may as well sell the f***ing lot of them.
This lad included
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It's heartening to know that our high opinion of his lad is justified, with these top 6 clubs beginning to circle.
From Longstaff's point of view, there's no point in him leaving now in order to be a squad player at Man U or Spurs. Those clubs are trying to grab him, from the long-term viewpoint.
But it looks like we've only got a year or two to convince him that his career can kick on by staying put.
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Imagine this time last year thinking we'd be debating whether he will leave for Man Utd! What a great 3 months he has had......
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It's heartening to know that our high opinion of his lad is justified, with these top 6 clubs beginning to circle.
From Longstaff's point of view, there's no point in him leaving now in order to be a squad player at Man U or Spurs. Those clubs are trying to grab him, from the long-term viewpoint.
But it looks like we've only got a year or two to convince him that his career can kick on by staying put.
If Rafa leaves he'll be better fighting for a 1st team spot at somebody like them, with the luxury of protecting him from over-exposure, than staying here and taking responsibility for keeping us at 17th.
A move to Man U would be very similar to Carrick's move to Spurs, I don't think he ever regretted that.
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It would be nothing like Carrick to Spurs, Carrick had played four full seasons and over 150 games at West Ham at left after a season in the second tier.
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It would be nothing like Carrick to Spurs, Carrick had played four full seasons and over 150 games at West Ham at left after a season in the second tier.
I'm speaking about the decision to be made, in relation to his future. I did think the first paragraph was enough to clarify, but just in case I quoted the exact comment which I was replying to.
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I still don't think that it is particularly similar decision, Carrick was established and undoubtedly ready to step up. Longstaff has played fewer than 15 games for us. As great as he was in that short spell this season, he's still got a lot to do here to fully establish himself. I think he'll be fine as he seems so composed and calm but he's still at a fundamentally different point in his career than Carrick was when he went to Spurs and the decision he may or may not have to make is therefore fundamentally different.
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I still don't think that it is particularly similar decision, Carrick was established and undoubtedly ready to step up. Longstaff has played fewer than 15 games for us. As great as he was in that short spell this season, he's still got a lot to do here to fully establish himself. I think he'll be fine as he seems so composed and calm but he's still at a fundamentally different point in his career than Carrick was when he went to Spurs and the decision he may or may not have to make is therefore fundamentally different.
Established or not, the question is whether Longstaff is ready to step up. And I have no doubt he'll do fine, under Rafa, who will develop him properly, but I was talking about if Rafa left. We'd likely get some halfwit who expects Longstaff to dominate midfield for 38 games, in a team battling relegation, simply based on the fact that Man U waned him, so he must be quality.
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Absolute bullshit
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I think this is bollocks, but the biggest bollocks is people mentioning the 2.25M valuation on transfermarkt. He'll be worth Phil Jones money already, which makes it all the more unlikely to happen.
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Get to absolute f***.
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Two rich clubs, one with no need to sell the best young talent they have who doesn't want to leave. The other club is floundering with a bad manager but bags of cash.
For us to sell it would take more than the Carroll fee.
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I'd sell him, Rafa has made Diame, Hayden and Longstaff now look really good in that position. I'm confident Rafa can make any average centre half or centre mid look like a 20m+ player.
Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.
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I'd sell him, Rafa has made Diame, Hayden and Longstaff now look really good in that position. I'm confident Rafa can make any average centre half or centre mid look like a 20m+ player.
Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.
:lol:
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With Schar and Lejeune playing diagonals out from the back, Matt Ritchie hitting way more crosses than anyone else in the league, and Perez our #10 also leading the league by miles in tackles and interceptions, perhaps our midfielders aren't that overworked.
Love the Hughes comment.
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I think the way Rafa plays definitely makes some individuals look better than they are mind. He had a great run in the team but if we got a big fee for him, I could easily see Benítez signing someone who could do the same job and role equally as effective to go towards areas of the team where you do need a bit more ability.
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You mean, Rafas a good manager?
His centre halves will always look good as there is 2 centre mids sitting in front and the full backs aren't 25 yards up the pitch.
On the other hand, Rafa's attacking players sometimes seem isolated.
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It’s because Longstaff only played 15 games that we would ask around 20-30m. If he has played the whole season we would ask for sth close to 50m
That’s why I think it’s legit, especially considering West Ham is asking 60m for Rice
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We should only really be selling s*** players, not the ones who we can build a team around. Sick of ashley’s short term NUFC.
He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.
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We should only really be selling s*** players, not the ones who we can build a team around. Sick of ashley’s short term NUFC.
He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.
all depends on if him, if he wants to go it will be hard to keep him
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Talk of a £20 million bid now.
This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.
I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.
When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.
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Absolutely no reason to sell him whatsoever.
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Absolutely no reason to sell him whatsoever.
I really hope so.
Got such a good head on his shoulders too. Future captain material for goodness sake.
This interest from Man U is really irritating and forced to me. You just know if he struggles a bit they'll discard him in a heart beat and go and buy the next new thing. Urgh.
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Talk of a £20 million bid now.
This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.
I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.
When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.
£40m plus a hefty sell-on fee/additional clauses based on apps, trophies, international caps, etc. Personally wouldn’t sell him but could see that sort of offer being difficult to refuse.
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I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
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Solskjaer will be taking advice from someone, he's not been back in the game long and they are interested in future prospects, Longstaff, James etc. Wouldn't Surprise me if its Fergie. I still think theres a lot more to this.
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they're spunking £15m (allegedly) on a champo winger.
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I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
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I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Big Mike lining up the chasers as we speak
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Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.
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If it's so easy to find better why don't Man United do it themselves?
Plus he's exactly the sort a team should do everything to hold onto. A player that is local and has come through the your development team.
Would be shame IMO.
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I agree it'd be a shame but 30-40 million is Tielemans money. I guess it would depend on how highly you rate him off the back of half a season...
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If he starts and he has a good season he’ll be worth 60m in the space of 12 months.
Daft to even consider selling at this point.
Between Gayle, Hayden, Perez, Shelvey and potentially Longstaff as well there’s about 100m+ in sales there this summer if Rafa wanted.
But potentially all of those would cost significantly more to replace..
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Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.
Could we? Without wanting to sound a bit 'Ashley', Longstaff will be on buttons in PL wage terms, any 30m replacement would demand at least 50Kp/w, probably more, so you have to take that into account.
Here's at list of some of the midfielders that joined PL clubs last season for between (roughly) 15 - 25m:
Torreira
Traore
Shaqiri
Lerma
Maddison
Jota
Seri
I wouldn't swap him for many of them.
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Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
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Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
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It is weird to think Man Utd would want to pay a lot for an almost 22-year old with 9 top flight appearances, but then you realize they have no footballing leadership at the club right now. Just another example of how far astray they are from 8-10 years ago
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:lol: People talking about this like we're a normal football club who would simply reinvest the money and build a better squad.
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Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
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Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
didn't maddison go for £24m or something having never played top flight football?
i'd want between £30-40m to even consider it personally, and if rafa doesn't want it then it shouldn't happen anyways whatever the price
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Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
It's not about raw numbers but the abdication of hope that such a move represents. Being unable or unwilling to hold on to the rare good talent that comes from an Academy like ours - whether or not it should be a rare thing is another conversation - is perfectly in line with the Ashley protocol.
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Also, what are we going to do with the money? Spend it on footballers? I can’t see that being allowed.
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Still waiting on us replacing The Sirop King permanently.
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He's played 9 games. Talking about 30-50m is nonsense. Howay lads, get real.
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He's played 9 games. Talking about 30-50m is nonsense. Howay lads, get real.
It’s a nuts market and we don’t want to sell, why not?
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I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Really Froggy?
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fortunately nufc don't sell their best players. never have done never will do :whistle:
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:lol: People talking about this like we're a normal football club who would simply reinvest the money and build a better squad.
This.
Remember when we sold Cabaye for £20m and speculated about how we'd reinvest the money? :lol:
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20m is f*** all really. Rather keep him. 'Could' be worth three times that after next season if Rafa stays. Hayden has improved very much and Longstaff's potential level is much higher.
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worst case scenario ..rafa leaves ,longstaff is promptly sold..keep both and we may well have turned the corner
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Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
It's not about raw numbers but the abdication of hope that such a move represents. Being unable or unwilling to hold on to the rare good talent that comes from an Academy like ours - whether or not it should be a rare thing is another conversation - is perfectly in line with the Ashley protocol.
I agree with the sentiment but the reality is if we can improve the team by selling an overvalued asset it's a sensible thing to do imo. This is obviously in some eggs in moonshine world where we would use all the money to actually improve the playing squad...
:lol: Hope?
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Utter madness to sell. We're close to having the spine of a pretty decent side, and with a few additions this summer we could kick on a bit and prove it.
(It will all be laying in bits a few weeks hence, won't it. :D )
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Still kills me that when talking about a 22-year old it’s basically assumed they’ve already got a proverbial foot in the footballing grave.
The one-club player is such a rarity these days that even an 18-year old with promise is extremely unlikely to give your club more than a handful of seasons.
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We would be stupid to accept such a low offer.
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Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.
Stuff like this man..
How, after years of Mike Ashley, can you argue like this?
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A young English, 2 footed passing centre midfielder with a decent long distance shot on him.. we'd be mental to sell him.
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if man utd are interested and we have no financial necessity to sell (which we don't), a normal club would realise they're after him for a reason
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If the interest is real then Ashley will be desperate to sign Rafa to a new deal just so he can f*** him over on Day 1 by selling him.
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A young English, 2 footed passing centre midfielder, with a decent long distance shot on him.. we'd be mental to sell him.
We’ll probably get offered Mctonimay in return who couldn’t even dream of what Longstaff can do with a football off either foot :hmm:
Same skill set apparently :idiot2:
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Tell them f*** off and have done with it, ffs.
He’ll be warming the bench for them for a while anyway unless they can shift the s**** there already.
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Utter madness to sell. We're close to having the spine of a pretty decent side, and with a few additions this summer we could kick on a bit and prove it.
(It will all be laying in bits a few weeks hence, won't it. :D )
Kick on to where? 10th 7th 11th? Means nowt really. We will be a safe as houses or relegated. Unless a multi billionaire wants to invest the top 5 ish will be very tough to break unless it's a fluke
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Bit like an Everton.which is Rafas plan
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Yes, it's only 9 games, but in those 9 games he's more than held his own against top opponents.
He is our best young player since Gazza, and it's impossible to put a value on him now.
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£30million PLUS Scott Mc basic version is probably the best we can hope for in this situation :thup:
Or even better they bugger off.
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I think he's worth Phil Jones plus inflation, which I guess is 30-35m. Only half as many games as Phil Jones had, but in a more demanding position. More impact in them too. Same young English premium.
As everyone says, the biggest issue is that any fee would not be reinvested in the team.
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I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Really Froggy?
Well aye. We're spending £15m on a winger from the Championship. Some season long loan fees approach £10m these days. For a young Englishman who's already done well in his albet short time in the league, £20m is nothing now.
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I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Really Froggy?
Well aye. We're spending £15m on a winger from the Championship. Some season long loan fees approach £10m these days. For a young Englishman who's already done well in his albet short time in the league, £20m is nothing now.
I just can’t see it, especially as he’s not even back from injury. What if he’s not the player he was?
Well we’ll see eh? Maybe I’m just remembering Man U as they used to be.
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Yes, it's only 9 games, but in those 9 games he's more than held his own against top opponents.
He is our best young player since Gazza, and it's impossible to put a value on him now.
Carroll was tearing the whole country apart in 2010. He never reached those heights again, but he was the best young player the club has fielded in a long, long time. Longstaff could well surpass that within the next year, but not after 9 games.
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is carroll still under contract at west ham? :lol:
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Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
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Getting £30m would be immense however within a year he could be double that just for being at Manure
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I believe Fergie has said sign him to replace Carrick which is why Man Utd are going to throw bags of cash at us.
£45m
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However the trouble is that because Longstaff is in low wages the money given to Rafa will need to cover fees and wages.
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He will go if they want him, simple as.
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Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:
Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.
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Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:
Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.
On what planet do you think we'd get rid of McTominay? :lol:
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Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:
Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.
On what planet do you think we'd get rid of McTominay? :lol:
You do realise Man Utd are trying to upgrade him with someone that can do what he can do but ALSO do what Michael Carrick could with a football at his feet? :smug:
You’d have to give us that basic version of yours plus £30million.
Joking but that is the only deal I’d do I think Mctominay is very good at winning the ball back just limited with the ball compared to Longstaff.
Hopefully the board really test how far Man Utd are willing to go for Longstaff.
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Much rather have Longstaff than McTominay from what I've seen.
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so would manyoo by the looks of it
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so would manyoo by the looks of it
Well spotted :lol:
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I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.
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so would manyoo by the looks of it
Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.
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so would manyoo by the looks of it
Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.
At what playing 50/60 yard passes off either foot? :azn:
At having a left foot as good as his right. :azn:
At having Michael Carrick composure? :azn:
What exactly is Mctominay better at?
It certainly isn’t winning the ball back because Longstaff has that in his locker too.
Longstaff is a better all round player I even like and rate Mctominay but Longstaff has far more in his game.
I don’t think Man Utd would want Longstaff if they thought Mctominay was better than him.
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is carroll still under contract at west ham? :lol:
Until the end of June.
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I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.
how about you take your 25m and go buy someone else, you'll only ruin Longstaff under the mighty OGS. Longstaff under Rafa is so much better for his career.
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Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
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It would be stupid to sell Longstaff even from an Ashley loved money point of view, whatever Man-U bid it will have been on the back of a only a handful of games, if he maintains that form over a full season then his value only increases significantly
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so would manyoo by the looks of it
Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.
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Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
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Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
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McTominay is garbage.
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wouldn't be surprised to never hear of mctominay again once they get a proper manager
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Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
Why Sessengon, he’s really over hyped.
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Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
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Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
:thup:
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McTominay is garbage.
Very good ball winner.
He’d get even better at his position with the team shape drills of Rafa Benitez that has been so well coached into Longstaff.
£30million plus Mctominay or no deal :nope:
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Stop spouting.
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I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.
If he was some kid we'd previously bought from France I'd probably agree.
The fact he is a local kid and has come through the youth setup makes that fee a complete non starter.
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Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
He's played 9 premier League games...
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Players like Longstaff are often under-rated in terms of their value. He can play that defensive role in CM, but can also get the ball moving forward quickly and accurately. I always think that players in his position see a lot of the ball, and if they can use the ball as well as win it, that makes a big difference to how the rest of the team functions.
To be honest, whenever I don my anorak and try to think up my all-time Newcastle XI, I get a bit stuck trying to think of an anchor man in midfield who can also pass well. I don't think we've ever had a player with Longstaff's skill set. And I'm reluctant to talk about 'potential' because I think he's already arrived.
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Players like Longstaff are often under-rated in terms of their value. He can play that defensive role in CM, but can also get the ball moving forward quickly and accurately. I always think that players in his position see a lot of the ball, and if they can use the ball as well as win it, that makes a big difference to how the rest of the team functions.
To be honest, whenever I don my anorak and try to think up my all-time Newcastle XI, I get a bit stuck trying to think of an anchor man in midfield who can also pass well. I don't think we've ever had a player with Longstaff's skill set. And I'm reluctant to talk about 'potential' because I think he's already arrived.
Hamann was the best in my memory, before he spouted 'oohh i'm homesick', before moving to f***ing Liverpool.
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He's played 9 premier League games...
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He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
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He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
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He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here realize Longstaff is better.
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All I'm saying is, don't get carried away. :lol:
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Croak croak
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He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
Too early to compare Longstaff to other youngsters because he hasn't played enough games and they play at opposite ends of the table, but he deserves the praise he's getting. Made his first competitive games in a struggling side that had won only 1 of its last 6 (against Huddersfield) and faced a tough run including Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs, Wolves. During what should have been the toughest part of our season, he played a major part in turning the season around.
Big season for him next year. Hope he comes back stronger from his injury.
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I'd rather sell Longstaff for £25 million without McTominay than for £30 million with.
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Well that’s just silly.
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This thread is pure ass now
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I'll sell you Longstaff for £25m, Shelvey for £18m and Gayle for £15m as long as I can buy Rondon for £16.5m and you give me Trafalgar Square plus Fleet Street for £300. Oh, and while we're dreaming........
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I'll sell you Longstaff for £25m, Shelvey for £18m and Gayle for £15m as long as I can buy Rondon for £16.5m and you give me Trafalgar Square plus Fleet Street for £300. Oh, and while we're dreaming........
Mackems have already won Trafalgar Square I'm afraid.
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Lad has played 9 games and worth more than the mackems. :lol:
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Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
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Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
I increasingly get the feeling that nothing matters. Sell 'em all, for what impact it will have. Crash and burn approaches?
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Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
How many times does this have to be said before it sinks in? I’d rather we lost him because of a £2m release clause than sell him for £40m and Ashley trouser the lot.
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He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
This reminds me of when Hayden was the best player on the pitch against Man City.
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Arguably better than Lionel Messi was Scotty. Saw it in a Froggy post right there.
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He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
This reminds me of when Hayden was the best player on the pitch against Man City.
I know this is to make a point but I still want to argue Longstaff was better :lol:
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Arguably better than Lionel Messi was Scotty. Saw it in a Froggy post right there.
Messi was s**** in the first leg.
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Who is this person
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Who is this person
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7WDRDn4mtA
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I love the cross for Rondons diving header. Couldn't have hit it any more perfect.
Most times when I read about young players that "play maturely" I always get suspicious that they are most likely just a bit s***. They do the easy things because they can't do the hard stuff (playing safe, playing maturely), while looking tidy and doing some running around (prime example being Cack Jogback, but a more recent example to me at least is Tom Davies at Everton). Longstaff though just has that maturety but also the confidence and ability to do the hard stuff when it makes sense. He's also got a good frame/build for a central midfielder and is more athletic than I first thought. I just can't wait to see him on the field next season. :smitten:
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Paired next to Saul as we make our assault for the title
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Actually quite funny :lol:
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Think I am more excited to see more of Longstaff than Almiron for next season.
Such a tidy classy player, that video didn’t even show the penalty he won against Man City but great video anyway. Definitely keep him at all costs, crazy that he has only played 7 games this season.
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Good lad
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/08/manchester-united-dealt-transfer-blow-pursuit-newcastle-united-star-sean-longstaff-9872806/
‘I’ve always wanted to play for Newcastle and I’ve only had a little taste of that so for me, it’s about getting fit as soon as I can and getting back on the pitch for Newcastle and making more memories of the future.’
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Good lad
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Long staff knows O0
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Long staff knows O0
He'll be racking up the assists with Mbappe up front. Easy through balls.
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Man U fans will be singing about him for the next 20 years :lol:
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Looks like Man U are coming in with a firm £25 million offer for him
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Hope we send someone over to them to reply with a firm kick to the bollocks.
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Hope we send someone over to them to reply with a firm kick to the bollocks.
Ashley will have the transfer chopper sent over
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Depends though ... Rafas contract runs out Ashley doesnt renew it , takeover melts into thin air and he'd be crazy not to leave
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Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.
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Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.
Will be a lot easier to not care anymore though won’t it.
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Rafa will still have the final say until June 30th (unless they go over his head of course).
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Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.
yeah but look at it from Ashley's POV for a change, try to walk a mile in the other person's shoes
-£6m p/a saved on Rafa's wages
-£1.75m gamble - getting at least x10 back for him
-£0 youth product will fetch £30m when we negotiate with them
i mean come on, give the guy a break
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Bet he'll stay if Rafa stays. Ready made (and understandable, I guess) excuse if he goes and Ashley stays.
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If Rafa goes there probably won’t be anyone capable of conducting a transfer, he’ll be trapped. No one knows how the fax machine works.
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Sherwood himself might still be able to do a job in there as player/manager. Good thinking by Mike to recoup some his money wasted by the manager and offload this soft c***.
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This transfer would sum up the failings of both clubs involved.
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We would be mad to accept 25 mil, imo. There’s a chance after another season he could be worth way more.
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25 mil. is probably the most we can fetch for him now if Rafa leaves and we don't get any reinforcements in.
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This rumour is silly for a few reasons but the £25m fee would be a joke - especially when Wan Bissaka has only been playing for a year and he's valued at £60m. For a right-back!
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If Rafa leaves, what does it matter?
Highly doubtful this will happen though. More like Man Utd supporting journalists trying to unsettle the lad. Or it’s coming from the club itself which is disappointing.
25 million would be cheap for what his potential could be anyway. Another season and he would be worth double.
If the club had any sense they would offer him a new contract with more money and an in incentivised scale of increase. Give him something to work towards.
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Chronicle going into overdrive with the Longstaff stories now the grotty rag that it is.
I can't see Longstaff leaving so early in his career fwiw.
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If Mike Ashley was still going to be the owner I wouldn’t blame the lad if he left. It would be the sensible thing.
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No transfers can happen with the ongoing (hopefully) takeover right?
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nee chance he goes for that money
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nufc and sense dont go hand in hand
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If Mike Ashley was still going to be the owner I wouldn’t blame the lad if he left. It would be the sensible thing.
dejavu with the early 80s etc
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The papers are full of s***. There’s no new news about this yet they run headlines like “Manchester United closing in on Longstaff”
How could they be if nothing is happening. Charnley is off with his head in a sand box somewhere, Mike is preoccupied with legal proceedings against Debenhams and Rafa has been historically quiet.
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Not worried about him leaving. What I am worried about though is the fact that Solskjær and the Man United hierarchy have shown so much interest in him because I have no faith in the ability of Solskjær nor the ManU hierarchy god forbid to recognize a potentially good player.
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The papers are full of s***. There’s no new news about this yet they run headlines like “Manchester United closing in on Longstaff”
How could they be if nothing is happening. Charnley is off with his head in a sand box somewhere, Mike is preoccupied with legal proceedings against Debenhams and Rafa has been historically quiet.
Whilst the cat's away the mouse will............... poach the most naturally talented midfielder Newcastle have produced in a generation.
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If the takeover fails and Rafa leaves I'd be throwing in a transfer request if I was him
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Ashley licking his lips in anticipation
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Oh aye, they will make comment on that.
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Ashley licking his lips in anticipation
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He must have been talking to someone who works part time in the club shop
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seriously f*** off man united
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I suspect the 'multiple reports' mean one report and various others copying.
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If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******
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Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.
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If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******
What you're saying is that our supporters will accept anything?
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About time we just said f*** off
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About time we just said f*** off
"No comment"
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Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.
We haven’t made too many bad sales really. Just not enough signings.
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Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.
We haven’t made too many bad sales really. Just not enough signings.
A sale is a bad sale if it's not adequately replaced. I'd say there's been lots of players during his tenure that weren't replaced with equal or better players. From what I've seen of Longstaff, I think he's actually one of the better players we've had during Ashley's time. Factor in the fact he's local and a youth product, plus the fact we don't actually know how good he is or could be amounts to this potentially being the worst of the lot.
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If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******
ffs come off it man ;D
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Get yourself out of here kid.
Good luck.
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Can we not keep the ridiculous hysteria to one thread?
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Get yourself out of here kid.
Good luck.
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Can we not keep the ridiculous hysteria to one thread?
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Run you fool, run!!
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Run you fool, run!!
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Nailed on to cash in on him now.
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Any player with ambition has to want to leave now
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When he leaves for Man U and our fans boo him next season for not being loyal....
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I like that he chose this pic; Rafa, arm around him, slinging knowledge and him a sponge, ready to soak it up. Could have been something special.
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I like that he chose this pic; Rafa, arm around him, slinging knowledge and him a sponge, ready to soak it up. Could have been something special.
Prepare to be Pardewed.
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Desperately ringing Man U and asking if the deal is still available I guess
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Hopefully for him someone makes an offer for him that Ashley cannot reject. If that doesn't happen this summer I hope he is the type of player that is able to stand out on his own and make his own future (I.e not necessarily dependent on the guidance of Benitez/his coaching team to improve) so he gets a move next season.
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Yeah but can you get your arms around this seany baby..(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/29/23/2718632700000578-0-image-a-11_1427667742302.jpg)
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Can see this week getting worse:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48784875
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It's such a shame a lad of his potential isn't working with Rafa any more. You just knew Rafa would keep bringing the best from him, he may well still come good as he is talented but if stays with us under whichever fucknut lands the job you just know he'll drop off. Even if he goes to Man Utd I can't see Solskjaer bringing much to the table.
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Just one more reason to be absolutely gutted.
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Targeting a player while we have no manager is to be expected, not sure I'm happy with the beeb for ramping it up.
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Targeting a player while we have no manager is to be expected, not sure I'm happy with the beeb for ramping it up.
Just don’t report it, or what? :lol:
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Hope he goes to Man United and has a great career, rather than waste it at MAFC.
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Targeting a player while we have no manager is to be expected, not sure I'm happy with the beeb for ramping it up.
Just don’t report it, or what? :lol:
It's not as if it's a new story.
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inevitable he's going, good luck to the lad ;)
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Targeting a player while we have no manager is to be expected, not sure I'm happy with the beeb for ramping it up.
Who gives a f***. It's a good thing. Wouldn't wish it on anyone to be stuck here. Hope he goes for 5m
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He should leave but he shouldn't go to Man Utd.
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He should leave but he shouldn't go to Man Utd.
Agree with this, he like the majority of the players Rafa has put together would be better suited at Arsenal
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Man Utd are headed for another season of crisis and the sacking of their manager, no doubt about it.
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Aye no way the baby faced c*** lasts the season like
Rafa had the foundations of a solid mid table side as well. 2/3 good signings on top of Dubravka, Schar, lascelles, Lejeune, Longstaff, Almiron, Perez and Rondon and we could have easily been challenging for between 6th-10th
Such a f***ing waste and shame still not over it me don't think I ever will be
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Bid in for him today ?
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Get yourself out of here kid.
Good luck.
This.
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Nailed on to cash in on him now.
Probably one of the reasons I don't think Ashley is ready to sell the club yet is the fact theres still a bit money to be made on the likes of Longstaff, Perez, Almiron and Laccelles. Your looking at close the £100m for those lot and we all know what floats Ashley's boat
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Rafa had the foundations of a solid mid table side as well. 2/3 good signings on top of Dubravka, Schar, lascelles, Lejeune, Longstaff, Almiron, Perez and Rondon and we could have easily been challenging for between 6th-10th
Such a f***ing waste and shame still not over it me don't think I ever will be
Agree :thup:
All the foundations now being ripped apart with Rafa, Rondon, Perez, Longstaff likely leaving.
Mike Ashley sending the club back years this Summer.
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This c*** been sold yet?
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Rafa had the foundations of a solid mid table side as well. 2/3 good signings on top of Dubravka, Schar, lascelles, Lejeune, Longstaff, Almiron, Perez and Rondon and we could have easily been challenging for between 6th-10th
Such a f***ing waste and shame still not over it me don't think I ever will be
Agree :thup:
All the foundations now being ripped apart with Rafa, Rondon, Perez, Longstaff likely leaving.
Mike Ashley sending the club back years this Summer.
Been sending the club backwards since he stepped through the door. Get the c*** out
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He's worth double that at least in today's market.
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Sounds about right.
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'Fans ' will merely speculate about who the next manager will get with all that money : )
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Imagine Not keeping Rafa, letting the first decent local talent since Andy Carroll go cheap and fans still turning up :lol:
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Imagine Not keeping Rafa, letting the first decent local talent since Andy Carroll go cheap and fans still turning up :lol:
With a 5% increase.
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He's worth double that at least in today's market.
Not quite at the minute in truth, the minute he has a good game for them his value will double.
He could easily lose form and his value will plummet with us, catch 22 but I get what you mean.
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Would send out the wrong message? We all fully expect the fat c*** to flog him. As if they are arsed in the slightest about sending out wrong messages.
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Reckon we can get £35m, although we shouldn't be selling him at all.
Would be crazy considering he came in with no hype aged 21, played 9 games then got a knee injury.
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Sounds pretty ominous this. Wouldn't blame the lad at all though.
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As if he is going to stay as it stands.
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they literally just paid 45m for a guy with only 40 odd appearances not only would it be horrible to sell him for the obvious reasons, it would also be f***ing incompetence for such a low price (in todays market) they're man utd take them to the f***ing cleaners
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they literally just paid 45m for a guy with only 40 odd appearances not only would it be horrible to sell him for the obvious reasons, it would also be f***ing incompetence for such a low price (in todays market) they're man utd take them to the f***ing cleaners
Why? We never get to see the money anyway. Sell him for a pittance and it will stop Mike snapping up another failed retail outlet.
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they literally just paid 45m for a guy with only 40 odd appearances not only would it be horrible to sell him for the obvious reasons, it would also be f***ing incompetence for such a low price (in todays market) they're man utd take them to the f***ing cleaners
Why? We never get to see the money anyway. Sell him for a pittance and it will stop Mike snapping up another failed retail outlet.
because f*** man utd more than anything really
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Absolutely w*** price for him but no doubt they’ll sell him
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Selling our best youngster after less than 6 months of good PL form, sounds familiar. Cashing in on Longstaff when we've barely seen him is a lovely soul-sucking gesture that shows how pointless it all is so that fat vindictive c*** will be all over it I'm sure.
There's just absolutely nothing to get behind or be excited about anymore and it's been that way at NUFC for a long, long time.
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Might make a few others chuck their tickets if he is sold.
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Hope we sell him. Hope we sell all of our good players.
Could it be that Ashley now wants to see us go as low as possible and then walk away, just to p*ss the fans off? I’d take that.
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Hope we sell him. Hope we sell all of our good players.
Could it be that Ashley now wants to see us go as low as possible and then walk away, just to p*ss the fans off? I’d take that.
Me to, its death by a thousands cuts but I'll go home and away in the Vanarama if it means Ashley has lost money and f***s off.
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Honestly, he'd be mad NOT to leave this shitshow.
If I was his father or agent, I'd be telling him to get out asap.
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Sell him for £25m, keep the value of the club at £350m. Sadly he’s on s*** wages, so the transfer fee for a replacement will be around £4m to cover the difference.
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I will be proud to have our bank balance increased by £25 million, makes you proud to be a rich Geordie thats what it does.
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Hope we sell him. Hope we sell all of our good players.
Could it be that Ashley now wants to see us go as low as possible and then walk away, just to p*ss the fans off? I’d take that.
100% agree. Hope all the first team put in written transfer requests tomorrow. Let the best go for whatever price Ashley thinks is the best he can get. Let him pocket the cash. The club is dead. Maybe in a few years, or 10 years, it will, like the Phoenix, soar again. Until then I am in complete emotional hibernation........
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Honestly, he'd be mad NOT to leave this shitshow.
If I was his father or agent, I'd be telling him to get out asap.
true.
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Hope he goes and I wish him well. He doesnt deserve to be wasted here. He could either have a breakthrough season at a top club and maybe make the England squad for the Euros or he could rot here with some s**** bargain basement manager and have a relegation to his cv.
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‘Sends out the wrong message’
In the great chart of the absolute cuntery which has sent out the wrong message in the past, selling Sean Longstaff wouldn’t even scrape the top ten.
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Hope the season ticket holders enjoy this season :lol:
Fuckwits
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If I was the lad, I'd leave. You get 10 years in the Premier League if you're good, free from injuries and generally fit. He'll get less than that staying at the current Newcastle United setup.
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If I was the lad, I'd leave. You get 10 years in the Premier League if you're good, free from injuries and generally fit. He'll get less than that staying at the current Newcastle United setup.
He'd be daft not to leave this summer, with his stock high and his Toon future suddenly looking a lot bleaker.
I just wish it wasn't Man Yoo. Surely he'd be looking to start wherever he goes.
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15m according to the mail. They can f*** off with that like. 50m for a RB. Longstaff should start at 30m given his form and the hype. Don't blame him for going, obviously the club will take Any thing they can get for him. Another what might have been. Should have built a side with him central to it. :(
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15m according to the mail. They can f*** off with that like. 50m for a RB. Longstaff should start at 30m given his form and the hype. Don't blame him for going, obviously the club will take Any thing they can get for him. Another what might have been. Should have built a side with him central to it. :(
£15m is absolutely nowt these days.
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15m according to the mail. They can f*** off with that like. 50m for a RB. Longstaff should start at 30m given his form and the hype. Don't blame him for going, obviously the club will take Any thing they can get for him. Another what might have been. Should have built a side with him central to it. :(
£15m is absolutely nowt these days.
Yep, Southampton's 2nd choice left back is going for only slightly less
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£15m :lol:
Leeds are after double that for Kalvin frigging Phillips
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Hope he goes. Good on the lad. From the little we saw of him he looked a real player.
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Imagine wanting to have anything to do with the club after it got rid of Rafa, didn't sign Rondon and sold Longstaff. :lol:
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But new boss will get 2m of that 15 to spend. Remember that.
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But new boss will get 2m of that 15 to spend. Remember that.
Don’t care.
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But new boss will get 2m of that 15 to spend. Remember that.
Don’t care.
(https://images.app.goo.gl/teLgsUdSFW6pqSyD9)
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See ya youngin
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This lad's potential was massive with Rafa here but as soon as a new Pardewesque shitter is through the door that potential will take a massive drop. Might as well take the money and him go play somewhere he has a chance of a cup or a run in Europe or something.
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Just had a text from someone that knows Paul Dummet (I know) to say he's gone this week.
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I get him wanting to leave, I get that he should get out of dodge for the benefit of his career, but is Man U really the right place now? There is a huge risk that the OGS experiment will lead to the worst Man U team in the Premier League era. Leicester or Wolves (or that type of club) would surely be a better move for him
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I get him wanting to leave, I get that he should get out of dodge for the benefit of his career, but is Man U really the right place now? There is a huge risk that the OGS experiment will lead to the worst Man U team in the Premier League era. Leicester or Wolves (or that type of club) would surely be a better move for him
Risk vs reward. ManU are still one of the biggest clubs in world football, certainly have one of the biggest turnovers, so the potential reward if things go right there either under OGS or his successor could be huge. Also far more likely to get an England call up or get into the first team if he does alright there.
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Just had a text from someone that knows Paul Dummet (I know) to say he's gone this week.
Shame if true, he looks like a real talent.
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Heard a rumour that he doesn't want to leave, but that it's completely out of his hands. If the club decides to sell, he doesn't have a choice. Repeat of the Andy Carroll sale
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Heard a rumour that he doesn't want to leave, but that it's completely out of his hands. If the club decides to sell, he doesn't have a choice. Repeat of the Andy Carroll sale
I didn’t accept that reasoning with Carroll either. If he doesn’t want to leave he doesn’t accept the buying clubs terms as he stays here. What would we have done with Carroll or Longstaff let him rot in the reserves? No chance.
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If he doesn't want to leave then I'm glad he feels he doesn't have a choice for his own good. However, the club cannot force him out if he refuses to discuss with any clubs that has an offer for him accepted by the club. Same as with AC.
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Heard a rumour that he doesn't want to leave, but that it's completely out of his hands. If the club decides to sell, he doesn't have a choice. Repeat of the Andy Carroll sale
He can choose to stay, but why would he.
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I’d take £25m for that Longstaff.
Edit: they’ve taken it down. Daily Express had photos of OGS & Matty Longstaff.
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£25m will fund all of our transfers and wages for this season. Hard to turn that down.
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Selling Longstaff for any amount this summer will be the final kill.
It wouldn´t surprise me at all...absolutely no hope left. It has all fallen apart - more than ever thought possible :suicide:
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Why any of our players would want to stay now is beyond me. Why would any player want to play for a club who have no ambition at all to compete or win anything and are content to just struggle like f*** every season. Also our facilities for a premier league team are an embarrassment again why would any player want that
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Selling Longstaff for any amount this summer will be the final kill.
It wouldn´t surprise me at all...absolutely no hope left. It has all fallen apart - more than ever thought possible :suicide:
Nope that happened a few years ago when the future Ashley model was sussed.
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Know someone close to him, doesn’t want to go, but club have accepted whatever Man Utd have offered and he will meet for talks over personal terms to be finalised if he has any brains. Undisclosed fee incoming :lol:
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Only surprising part of that is he doesn't want to leave.
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Only surprising part of that is he doesn't want to leave.
By all accounts he’s a well grounded down to earth kid. I rate him, but all ego and self confidence aside I’d be thinking let’s get in 2 years of first team football at Newcastle, become the main man, get some injury free consistency, get into the England squad and get a cap even, and develop nicely under a less pressurised environment and then move. It’s all up to him of course, but a move to Man Utd is just as or more likely to curtail his development and experience than enhance it right now. Look at Jordan Henderson and Carrick for example. It’s not as if Man Utd are going to fast track him towards silverware or playing in a top team, even if they were at that level which they aren’t. If he does move, hopefully he gets into the team, plays every week and becomes a top player with success coming his way. He's more talented than Henderson IMO, but very raw. Anything less than 25m would be a joke, still it all goes into the club’s pockets so anything that gives Rafa... oh wait! :lol:
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Only surprising part of that is he doesn't want to leave.
By all accounts he’s a well grounded down to earth kid. I rate him, but all ego and self confidence aside I’d be thinking let’s get in 2 years of first team football at Newcastle, become the main man, get some injury free consistency, get into the England squad and get a cap even, and develop nicely under a less pressurised environment and then move. It’s all up to him of course, but a move to Man Utd is just as or more likely to curtail his development and experience than enhance it right now. Look at Jordan Henderson and Carrick for example. It’s not as if Man Utd are going to fast track him towards silverware or playing in a top team, even if they were at that level which they aren’t. If he does move, hopefully he gets into the team, plays every week and becomes a top player with success coming his way. He's more talented than Henderson IMO, but very raw. Anything less than 25m would be a joke, still it all goes into the club’s pockets so anything that gives Rafa... oh wait! :lol:
I'll have what he's having :thup:
Mate, I know you've been away, but there's this guy called Mike Ashley... ;)
If Rafa was here, or a takeover looked likely, I'd be spitting blood. In fact, I've half a mind to buy a Longstaff away top from 18/19 as a sort of bookend for my love affair with the club.
EDIT: Not mocking your rating of the lad - I think he's the bomb too. Just the staying here bit, just mocking that bit :thup:
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Only surprising part of that is he doesn't want to leave.
By all accounts he’s a well grounded down to earth kid. I rate him, but all ego and self confidence aside I’d be thinking let’s get in 2 years of first team football at Newcastle, become the main man, get some injury free consistency, get into the England squad and get a cap even, and develop nicely under a less pressurised environment and then move. It’s all up to him of course, but a move to Man Utd is just as or more likely to curtail his development and experience than enhance it right now. Look at Jordan Henderson and Carrick for example. It’s not as if Man Utd are going to fast track him towards silverware or playing in a top team, even if they were at that level which they aren’t. If he does move, hopefully he gets into the team, plays every week and becomes a top player with success coming his way. He's more talented than Henderson IMO, but very raw. Anything less than 25m would be a joke, still it all goes into the club’s pockets so anything that gives Rafa... oh wait! :lol:
I'd say he'd have more chance of getting in the England squad as a bit-part Man Utd player than a Newcastle first-teamer. Also debatable that a relegation battle at a club almost constantly in chaos with talk of boycotts and potential protests throughout the season is a less pressurised environment.
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Oh I am sure he'll develop real nice playing under Neil Redfearn's excellent tutelage and training in our state-of-the-art training facilities, recovering after a vigorous session in a blow-up kiddie pool outside.
Not only that, but in the second year he'll be able to look forward to plying his trade and learning by playing against elite players from sides such as Millwall and Preston in the Championship.
Aye, he'd be mad to leave.
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Bet he helped paint the walls anarl.Ashley asked him to help out no doubt.
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Dan Storey wrote an article (a very good one) on the whole mess at the club at the minute and said Longstaff was 'likely to leave.' I tweeted him to ask if that was his knowledge or just speculation and his reply was - "As far as I know, he's keen, Man United are keen and Newcastle are prepared to sell. Which suggests it will get done." Doesn't sound good.
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Dan Storey wrote an article (a very good one) on the whole mess at the club at the minute and said Longstaff was 'likely to leave.' I tweeted him to ask if that was his knowledge or just speculation and his reply was - "As far as I know, he's keen, Man United are keen and Newcastle are prepared to sell. Which suggests it will get done." Doesn't sound good.
Sounds excellent to me. Proves that our academy and training ground is f***ing mint, no need to invest anything there, and we're getting £20m for a player we've only paid small wages to.
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He’d be crazy to stay here when Rafa has gone, local lad or not
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Almost everyone in the first team will have their agents working overtime if they've got any sense at all. The likes of Lascelles, Lejeune, Dubravka, Almiron would be insane not to try and jump while their stock is still high.
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And I wouldn't begrudge any single one of them for doing so.
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He will be gone next week surely it just a matter of when.
More money in the kitty :lol:
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Dan Storey wrote an article (a very good one) on the whole mess at the club at the minute and said Longstaff was 'likely to leave.' I tweeted him to ask if that was his knowledge or just speculation and his reply was - "As far as I know, he's keen, Man United are keen and Newcastle are prepared to sell. Which suggests it will get done." Doesn't sound good.
Interesting.
A mate of mine knows him and his family very well through the cricket, and he was saying he wanted to stay. That all could have changed in the last week of course.
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Not many clubs can pressurise their own top talented young local player who is desperate to stay into f***ing off :lol: :lol:
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Dan Storey wrote an article (a very good one) on the whole mess at the club at the minute and said Longstaff was 'likely to leave.' I tweeted him to ask if that was his knowledge or just speculation and his reply was - "As far as I know, he's keen, Man United are keen and Newcastle are prepared to sell. Which suggests it will get done." Doesn't sound good.
Interesting.
A mate of mine knows him and his family very well through the cricket, and he was saying he wanted to stay. That all could have changed in the last week of course.
He'll be off too and who can blame him. There have been many to choose from but I'd argue this is our worst pre-season ever. We are so going down.
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Not many clubs can pressurise their own top talented young local player who is desperate to stay into f***ing off :lol: :lol:
Lol just like Andy Carroll.
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Carrick II. At least we get some powder to keep dry.
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Absolutely nowt worse than wet powder.
Well this makes no f***ing sense out of context. 'Sake.
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Even by the club's usual selling policy it seems beyond moronic to let him go for £25 million now like. Can only see his value increasing over the next few years if he stayed, £25 million for a player that Man Utd will turn into an England international feels like robbery in the current market.
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Well, not so sure. I can equally see a s*** manager taking over and all hell to break loose.
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Well, not so sure. I can equally see a s*** manager taking over and all hell to break loose.
He's English and has a bit hype around him, he could have a s**** season and get relegated and still be worth £25 million tbh.
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At the very least it will get pushed back to deadline day
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Even by the club's usual selling policy it seems beyond moronic to let him go for £25 million now like. Can only see his value increasing over the next few years if he stayed, £25 million for a player that Man Utd will turn into an England international feels like robbery in the current market.
He's still only played a handful of games and then suffered a bad injury. There's a lot of risk involved for us. If Perez was sold for £30m then Ashley is going to accept £25m for Longstaff.
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Yea, we don't care about your perspective though Froggy.
Selling him for 25milion would be the height of stupidity as far as we are concerned.
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Yea, we don't care about your perspective though Froggy.
Selling him for 25milion would be the height of stupidity as far as we are concerned.
:lol: Fair enough.
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Really hope Longstaff stays.
He's the only bright spot at the moment.
Someone we could build our team around for years to come.
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He shouldn't be anywhere near leaving the club. He's only played a few 1st team matches, he's a homegrown product at the club he supports and looks to have the potential to become a considerable talent for years to come. Unfortunately the club in question is Mike Ashley's version of Newcastle United.
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Leicester paid £25m for Maddison last year before he had played a single Premier League game.
Nuts to sell Longstaff for the same price.
So it'll happen...
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Really hope Longstaff stays.
He's the only bright spot at the moment.
Someone we could build our team around for years to come.
Let's hope all the bright spots are removed from the club so more people can boycott.
Let's also hope for Longstaffs own sake that he finds a club more suited to develop him.
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So what would the club position be if we sold him for £25m? That he had a buy out clause as well and we were powerless to stop him leaving?
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Manure have agreed terms with Bruno Fernandes, surely this is good news for us.
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Manure have agreed terms with Bruno Fernandes, surely this is good news for us.
No terms agreed yet from what I know, but him coming in wouldn't affect the pursuit of Longstaff. We're after a Herrera replacement. Bruno Fernandes would be played much further forward.
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88M for Longstaff. 165M for Longstaff and Lascelles together. Bargain.
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88M for Longstaff. 165M for Longstaff and Lascelles together. Bargain.
88m Saudi Riyal is around £19m, so aye that's about right once the Saudi's buy you.
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He shouldn't be anywhere near leaving the club. He's only played a few 1st team matches, he's a homegrown product at the club he supports and looks to have the potential to become a considerable talent for years to come. Unfortunately the club in question is Mike Ashley's version of Newcastle United.
Exactly!
It would be really good for his development to play a whole season for us. And hopefully a takeover is done by then and we/he could look forward to a bright future together. Here's for hoping.🤞
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88M for Longstaff. 165M for Longstaff and Lascelles together. Bargain.
88m Saudi Riyal is around £19m, so aye that's about right once the Saudi's buy you.
Longstaff is better than Pogbar m8
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shelvey/colback powerhouse a midfield next season then.
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It will be an honor to watch them, get into them, and f*** them up.
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shelvey/colback powerhouse a midfield next season then.
2 pure white patriots
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We will need 2 Jack Colbacks because of all the yellow and red cards he picks up
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We will need 2 Jack Colbacks because of all the yellow and red cards he picks up
There’s only one Jackie Colback
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Bid incoming !!!!!
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Bid incoming !!!!!
£50m?
https://mobile.twitter.com/UtdRobert/status/1147213536780832769
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Bid incoming !!!!!
£50m?
https://mobile.twitter.com/UtdRobert/status/1147213536780832769
Glad we’re not being a soft touch....if true.
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Sorry - more than £50m:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11757612/manchester-united-preparing-bid-for-sean-longstaff-from-newcastle
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Bid incoming !!!!!
£50m?
https://mobile.twitter.com/UtdRobert/status/1147213536780832769
Glad we’re not being a soft touch....if true.
Redfearn or Sherwood won't see much of it though. Straight to Jabba's bank account.
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Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
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Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
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Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
Aye
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Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
Aye just don’t like the thought of one of our local lads going for cheap
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If Ashley makes £50m from an academy product he might even stump up for a new tin of paint for the walls.
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Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
Aye just don’t like the thought of one of our local lads going for cheap
The cheaper he goes for the less £££ fat mike gets
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I've never seen him play other than highlights v Man City when he looked tidy. Is he even that good? Like what's his best attributes or who is he similar too?
Is he really going to improve a top 6 side and be able to play CL etc? The feed for English players aren't mental. For an extra 10-15m or even 50m they could just go and get a proven class midfielder like Rakitic, Asensio, James Rodriguez etc
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If Ashley makes £50m from an academy product he might even stump up for a new tin of paint for the walls.
If he got that for SL, plus the AC money, would £85m for 2 academy players in England be a record? Don't spend a penny and get that, no wonder he doesn't see investing a thing.
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Be some going like considering they are about the only 2 we have produced in a decade :lol:
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Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
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Surely not. We'll have no bloody team left at this rate.
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Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
:lol:
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Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
100%
I've never seen him play other than highlights v Man City when he looked tidy. Is he even that good? Like what's his best attributes or who is he similar too?
Is he really going to improve a top 6 side and be able to play CL etc? The feed for English players aren't mental. For an extra 10-15m or even 50m they could just go and get a proven class midfielder like Rakitic, Asensio, James Rodriguez etc
I dont even know why I’m asking this but how or why haven’t you seen him play or read a single thing about him?
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And how could Man United just go and get Rakitic, Asensio or James Rodriguez? :lol:
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Best north east player in a generation, we have a billionaire owner we could say no....................we wont.
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Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
100%
I've never seen him play other than highlights v Man City when he looked tidy. Is he even that good? Like what's his best attributes or who is he similar too?
Is he really going to improve a top 6 side and be able to play CL etc? The feed for English players aren't mental. For an extra 10-15m or even 50m they could just go and get a proven class midfielder like Rakitic, Asensio, James Rodriguez etc
I dont even know why I’m asking this but how or why haven’t you seen him play or read a single thing about him?
Ashley's nufc isn't it
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And how could Man United just go and get Rakitic, Asensio or James Rodriguez? :lol:
Bt offering 50 odd million maybe
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Surely not. We'll have no bloody team left at this rate.
Which is good.
We need relegation
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More n more of me wants this lad and others to leave.
We start the season with no manager, no signings and a few others sold, maybe then some fans might just wake up.Bottom at xmas and the new manager is sacked.Champion
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And how could Man United just go and get Rakitic, Asensio or James Rodriguez? :lol:
Bt offering 50 odd million maybe
:lol: I love your optimism. We cannot attract those players at the minute.
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
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If Man U offer £25 million he'll be in a Chopper faster than the A Team.
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Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
Exactly this!
If you put a price on him it will keep clubs interessted and to bid for him. It also puts a lot of pressure on him with a high price on his head.
Just say he's not for sale and stick to that!
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
How on earth is it heartening to know that?
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
How on earth is it heartening to know that?
Well, it looks like there's no way they're going to sell him for £25m. It looks like there's a big gap between the value we place on him, and the price Man U are prepared to pay, and therefore there's some reasonable hope that we'll keep him.
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Prepare for undisclosed bid to be accepted and then hidden in the accounts, which will be released a year late
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I think most of our players now have an imaginary release clause so really we HAVE to sell them, we have no choice.
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.
A quick online search would have given you this information.
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He is too important. He is a local lad and the best prospect in a generation. He is someone the fans will love and get behind - a potential world class player rising through the ranks adds a sense of pride to the fans. This guy should be nurtured and be the heart of our team for a decade. Instead he will be binned off for a few quid before we get to see the best of him.
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Important for what.?
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He's a big bag on money like the rest of them
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.
A quick online search would have given you this information.
Fair one. I just hardly ever see anything of us these days. Thanks mike
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I think most of our players now have an imaginary release clause so really we HAVE to sell them, we have no choice.
I would seriously be so happy if every player handed in a transfer request today. Sell the lot. Don't care. Good luck to them all, they deserve a better club.
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He is too important. He is a local lad and the best prospect in a generation. He is someone the fans will love and get behind - a potential world class player rising through the ranks adds a sense of pride to the fans. This guy should be nurtured and be the heart of our team for a decade. Instead he will be binned off for a few quid before we get to see the best of him.
And ruin his career? Nah, he's better off somewhere else.
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He is too important. He is a local lad and the best prospect in a generation. He is someone the fans will love and get behind - a potential world class player rising through the ranks adds a sense of pride to the fans. This guy should be nurtured and be the heart of our team for a decade. Instead he will be binned off for a few quid before we get to see the best of him.
And ruin his career? Nah, he's better off somewhere else.
Precisely.
If I was a serious football professional (coach, physio, player, whatever) i'd look to leave NUFC. Not interested in improving at all
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Just watched his goals when on loan at Blackpool, he can hit a ball mind, looks every inch a top notch English midfielder.
£50 million or f*** off, not that I give a f*** mind.
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.
A quick online search would have given you this information.
Fair one. I just hardly ever see anything of us these days. Thanks mike
And yet you still feel qualified to opine :lol:
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All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.
A quick online search would have given you this information.
Fair one. I just hardly ever see anything of us these days. Thanks mike
And yet you still feel qualified to opine :lol:
I wonder which recently former poster they be?
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If he goes for £50m+ that'll be what, £80m+ already on transfer fees plus the TV money. We're f***ing loaded and we'll spend f*** all. :lol: If Ashley buys another dead high street chain I'll be f***ing fuming. Draining our club to buy Game and Debenhams ffs.
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Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
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If he goes for £50m+ that'll be what, £80m+ already on transfer fees plus the TV money. We're f***ing loaded and we'll spend f*** all. :lol: If Ashley buys another dead high street chain I'll be f***ing fuming. Draining our club to buy Game and Debenhams ffs.
Yet people still say hes not funneling money out of NUFC to buy these failing businesses
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Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
They made OGS Manager so anything is possible.
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It's strange that the club do seem to understand the current market for players means that the like of Perez and Longstaff command fees of over £30m. Strange they completely forget this knowledge when it comes to incoming players.
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Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
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Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
even to man utd £50m is a fair chunk of money and to pay that for someone with less than 10 premier league appearances would be utterly insane
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Apparantly he is 'deeply upset' about Rafas departure and is looking at his future
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Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
I doubt the likes of Brentford could afford him.
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Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
even to man utd £50m is a fair chunk of money and to pay that for someone with less than 10 premier league appearances would be utterly insane
That's what I mean £50 million is a fortune and in today's market you could probably buy 3 championship clubs for that.
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Apparantly he is 'deeply upset' about Rafas departure and is looking at his future
Story
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-made-sean-longstaff-17483681
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Apparantly he is 'deeply upset' about Rafas departure and is looking at his future
Story
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-made-sean-longstaff-17483681
'Benitez was shocked by the club’s decision to abruptly end contract talks last Monday'
Bullshit story that also contains this little gem, Rafa was shocked was he, 2 months after he told them he was off.
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If Man U offer £25 million he'll be in a Chopper faster than the A Team.
Whatever you think about Ashley, he doesn't usually give away highly prised assets cheap. It would take a pretty massive fee to get us to sell IMO. Longstaff isn't a potentially good player, he's already performing at the highest level, and he's still very young. The main problem with Man U's interest is going to be his agent will want a new bumper contract to keep him happy here which will test Ashley's wage structure.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/11760600/sean-longstaff-talks-held-between-manchester-united-and-newcastle
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More propaganda so when he leaves on deadline day the club can claim they wanted to keep him but the player forced the move. Always the victim is wor Mike.
"It's not our fault" should be put on the club's crest.
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Can’t see Man Utd paying 50m or even close to it.
This will rumble on all summer, he will stay and then Steve Bruce (or whatever t*** they hire) can claim it as a massive victory for the club.
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Can’t see Man Utd paying 50m or even close to it.
This will rumble on all summer, he will stay and then Steve Bruce (or whatever t*** they hire) can claim it as a massive victory for the club.
He'll go Andy Carroll style
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Despite failing to add a single player to their squad, Newcastle are still working hard to complete some exciting transfer news. We hear that lee Charnley is tonight still in his office trying to finalise the transfer of Sean Longstaff, which would be a record for the club and something geordies can be extremely proud of.
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We want to build a future with Longstaff do we ?
f*** me, that's the complete opposite of everything Ashley and the club do :lol:
How the hell do the papers print that s*** with a straight face without a hint of irony or sarcasm.
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Will be gone within 4 weeks then.
Total bullshit, manure want him they will get him.
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For his own good, I hope he leaves us ASAP.
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For his own good, I hope he leaves us ASAP.
Heard he's waiting to hear if the takever happens, before deciding. Apparently, a flatulence smell reduction underwear maker in Abu Dhabi, says it's definitely a possibility.
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Manchester United are on the verge of signing #nufc midfielder Sean Longstaff. Deal is very close. [Guardian]
:suicide:
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Announce that first then Bruce so he keeps his hands clean
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Ha Ha, what a fuckin mess
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Just get to f*** man. :lol:
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Ha Ha, what a fuckin mess
The undisclosed fee will go straight into Steve’s transfer chest.
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f***ing disgrace this like. Anyone going to watch this s*** show needs shot with s***.
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Mike Ashley is taking the absolute p*ss and has done for years. Owning this club has no doubt gained him, which is why he is clearly very happy to not sell.
The stuff I'd want happen to the fat parasite...
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Not sure how solid the source is because it looks a bit like a throwaway comment buried at the bottom of an article published a few hours ago
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/sam-allardyce-says-turned-down-chance-to-take-vacant-newcastle-manager-job-football
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Charlie Adam or jay spearing as replacement? Joe Allen? Jeff Hendrick? Jack cork?
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Jesus christ what is our net spend going to be now :spit:
Has to be some kind of world record.
Asset stripping selling all the top players and keeping the Premier League money.
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Charlie Adam or jay spearing as replacement? Joe Allen? Jeff Hendrick? Jack cork?
Cattermole
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On Sky earlier this afternoon they were saying that Newcastle acknowledged there had been talks with Man U but Longstaff was categorically not for sale.
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Charlie Adam or jay spearing as replacement? Joe Allen? Jeff Hendrick? Jack cork?
No need to buy anyone. Jack Colback with that clean slate baby.
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Can’t wait for Luke Edwards to tell us Steve Bruce now has £150million to spend :spit:
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On Sky earlier this afternoon they were saying that Newcastle acknowledged there had been talks with Man U but Longstaff was categorically not for sale.
How dare you !!!!!!! hold your tongue, are you suggesting the Newcastle hierarchy are untrustworthy
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Not for sale under 50m.
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On Sky earlier this afternoon they were saying that Newcastle acknowledged there had been talks with Man U but Longstaff was categorically not for sale.
Not for sale. Already sold.
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in my first ever ITK heard today that he's p*ssed off with benitez going and will probably f*** off to manyoo as a result
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:( Best 10 games ever
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in my first ever ITK heard today that he's p*ssed off with benitez going and will probably f*** off to manyoo as a result
I for one am shocked.
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If I was him I would already be gone. Nothing to stay for.
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If I was him I would already be gone. Nothing to stay for.
Someone needs to buy you first like.
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If I was him I would already be gone. Nothing to stay for.
Someone needs to buy you first like.
Nah you not seen escape to victory? I would give myself a career ending injury
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“Hold on a minute, let’s not be too hasty...we’ll take the £25m please?”
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FWIW, not written by Edwards, hence why they're not referred to as Womanchester.
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I like the idea of Man Utd thinking it's a good idea to try to buy a player with nine PL appearances but then being shocked when the suggested fee is huge.
Anyway, back to not caring
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Really hope he stays. Could be our engine for years to come. If he only stays for one more season I think the club will be sold and we can start building a team around him. If the fans could get toxic against Ashley I really think he gets fed up and sells in the end.
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I’ve got to log out again :lol:
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Stunned are they ? Well maybe we should lower the price for them then the f***ing arseholes.
Whether he should leave because of the mess this club is is irrelevant, how dare we want a good price for one of our players.
f***ing hate Man Utd.
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Watch him turn out to be absolutely horse s**** once he’s a regular in the team and the club will wish they took the £25m.
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Man Utd keep insisting that they are the biggest club in the world. If that’s the case then they should be paying the biggest fee’s in the world, even if it is for youngsters.
They are probably most to blame for prices this high when they asked for £80m for Ronaldo, and were paying hefty fee’s for Pogba, and countless others before him.
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Sewpa Steve off to a good start.
I like Longstaff, although he was a nobody when he turned 21, made 9 league appearances, injured his knee and has now lost Rafa. There's a strong chance he's now at peak value, we know nothing about him. But I'd like to find out.
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Man Utd keep insisting that they are the biggest club in the world. If that’s the case then they should be paying the biggest fee’s in the world, even if it is for youngsters.
They are probably most to blame for prices this high when they asked for £80m for Ronaldo, and were paying hefty fee’s for Pogba, and countless others before him.
plenty of blame to go around on that front, Perez at real madrid and his "galacticos" chelsea and man city obviously but I think the real deal breaker in stupidity was psg with neymar
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We should all have a whip round. Maybe start a go fund me page to help Sean achieve his goal of getting as far away as f*** from being coached by Steve Bruce.
Too bad he will almost definitely regress in comparison to where decent coaches or Rafa would have taken him.
Pretty sure we will blink first and sell him for 30 but it will be undisclosed. The local rags will be told its 30 rising to 45, manure fans will he told just 20 rising to 30. Then it will be "undisclosed" so everyone's fans feels happy. Pretty much how every transfer reporting seems to work these days.
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Watch him turn out to be absolutely horse s**** once he’s a regular in the team and the club will wish they took the £25m.
Without Rafa's system and guidance, I can see a lot of our players struggling. Rafa got the most out of many of them.
Perez at Leicester will be fine because he's surrounded by better players and got a better manager than SB.
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Watch him turn out to be absolutely horse s**** once he’s a regular in the team and the club will wish they took the £25m.
Without Rafa's system and guidance, I can see a lot of our players struggling. Rafa got the most out of many of them.
Perez at Leicester will be fine because he's surrounded by better players and got a better manager than SB.
I can see our defenders struggling most, a lot of them looked improved from their other clubs because of Rafa's meticulous organisation. I think Longstaff would look good in any team fwiw.
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Best young player we’ve developed in years and he’s sold after 9 PL appearances. Depressing.
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Best young player we’ve developed in years and he’s sold after 9 PL appearances. Depressing.
Hasn’t gone, chance he will stay...just a feeling.
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Far to early in the window to sell our prize asset
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Rafa worked hard with this lad on an almost daily basis, having him train with the first team and constantly talking and advising him. If not for Rafa he would still be an unknown reserve team player.
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So that Guardian line about him being on the verge of leaving wasn't true
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Best young player we’ve developed in years and he’s sold after 9 PL appearances. Depressing.
Hasn’t gone, chance he will stay...just a feeling.
Do you want him to stay?
He should get out ASAP. Ideally not to Man Utd, but still. Someone with a competent manager and coaching staff.
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So that Guardian line about him being on the verge of leaving wasn't true
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Longstaff wants to leave? This is grim. F**** Ashley!
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So that Guardian line about him being on the verge of leaving wasn't true
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Longstaff wants to leave? This is grim. F**** Ashley!
Why wouldn’t he? I don’t blame him in the slightest under this shitshow of a regime. He’d have stayed under Rafa for sure.
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Best young player we’ve developed in years and he’s sold after 9 PL appearances. Depressing.
Hasn’t gone, chance he will stay...just a feeling.
Do you want him to stay?
He should get out ASAP. Ideally not to Man Utd, but still. Someone with a competent manager and coaching staff.
For the long term good of the club, no, I want him to leave mate.
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
Shearer?
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
Shearer?
We were on a par at the time.
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Think the way their fans still can't get over Shearer snubbing them shows how rare it was. :lol:
Anyway, Longstaff should get out for his own sake. As should a few others too.
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
How come most Geordies have their biggest success outside of the region? Either not signing as a kid or moving on to better things. Mid 90s was a rarity.
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
How come most Geordies have their biggest success outside of the region? Either not signing as a kid or moving on to better things. Mid 90s was a rarity.
Please let me dream of a bit of loyalty.
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
How come most Geordies have their biggest success outside of the region? Either not signing as a kid or moving on to better things. Mid 90s was a rarity.
I know, I know. It's because we are a nothing club that moves from one embarrassment tot he next without breaking a sweat and we seem to perpetually self harm apart from the odd occasion of shining light when beautiful people like Keegan and Robson enter our otherwise miserable sad existence.
Longstaff would be best whacking in a transfer request and running as fast as his gangly legs will take him to manage to have a career rather than turning out for Gateshead in 2 years when that fat blob Bruce ruins him and we are languishing in League 1.
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If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
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If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
Amazing that THAT would be it.
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:lol:
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Really? Should be absolutely it after Rafa left. How many uninvited fistings does it take to finally turn around every supporter? Got to be an asymptote somewhere.
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If there’s one thing you can say about Newcastle fans, it’s that lots of them have amazing thresholds 👍
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Really? Should be absolutely it after Rafa left. How many uninvited fistings does it take to finally turn around every supporter? Got to be an asymptote somewhere.
We've all been fisted - I guess some like it?
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If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
For your own sake i hope they sell him.
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If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
So if Longstaff stays you are still in?
Some of our fans man, honestly what the f***.
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If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
f***ing hell man, so you are happy to have Ashley f*** you regardless?
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Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
Shearer?
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Sky sports: We’ve been told Longstaff is excited at the prospect of Bruce taking charge, and is desperate to impress the new manager and become a Newcastle regular to progress his fledgling career
:lol:
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Sky sports: We’ve been told Longstaff is excited at the prospect of Bruce taking charge, and is desperate to impress the new manager and become a Newcastle regular to progress his fledgling career
:lol:
Solskjaer one way, Bruce the other
What a choice :lol:
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:lol: prefer Bruce tbf over that baby faced little c***
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:lol: prefer Bruce tbf over that baby faced little c***
Cut off your hand or your foot? Still a no brainer given the quality he would he playing with and European football. Could see us keeping him to January or next summer though.
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Sky sports: We’ve been told Longstaff is excited at the prospect of Bruce taking charge, and is desperate to impress the new manager and become a Newcastle regular to progress his fledgling career
:lol:
“We’ve been told” :memelol: that’s club-produced propaganda at its finest
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excited :spit:
Obviously
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Now they are saying on Sky that Longstaff is not for sale, but Newcastle value him at £50m :lol:
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If we have modicum of common sense we should offer him a massive pay rise with a £150m buy out clause. That's how highly I rate Longstaff
and I remember going to reserve games way back when and suggesting to my mates that reserve team players Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne would play for England one day....they all ridiculed me but I was proved absolutely right a few years later
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safe to say you had the last laugh
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If we have modicum of common sense we should offer him a massive pay rise with a £150m buy out clause. That's how highly I rate Longstaff
and I remember going to reserve games way back when and suggesting to my mates that reserve team players Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne would play for England one day....they all ridiculed me but I was proved absolutely right a few years later
Get a load this Nostradamus fecker over here.
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If we have modicum of common sense we should offer him a massive pay rise with a £150m buy out clause. That's how highly I rate Longstaff
and I remember going to reserve games way back when and suggesting to my mates that reserve team players Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne would play for England one day....they all ridiculed me but I was proved absolutely right a few years later
Ring the FCB , you may get a job marra
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Peter Beardsley made his debut the day after he signed and was a regular from the start which suggests he didn’t play much reserve football like.
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Bruce is going to kill this kids career.
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Brucey going to let the exciting young local lad go to his beloved favorite club? Last say on transfers right?
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Fingers crossed he leaves.
Then all hope for the masses is gone O0
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Longstaff is still on the same contract he was on when he was playing for the reserves. He needed to make one more first team appearance to activate an improved contract but got injured before that kicked in.
I'm sure his agent is negotiating improved terms with the club but knowing the way we operate we'll delay and then offer him peanuts.
If i was him i'd want out.
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Longstaff is still on the same contract he was on when he was playing for the reserves. He needed to make one more first team appearance to activate an improved contract but got injured before that kicked in.
I'm sure his agent is negotiating improved terms with the club but knowing the way we operate we'll delay and then offer him peanuts.
If i was him i'd want out.
Somebody check who is Snodgrass's PR representative.
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id bet all the denim in the world Mike wont sell for under £40m
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Don’t get why we should sell so low. If we think the lad has ability, who gives a f*** if he’s only played quarter of a season.
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Don’t get why we should sell so low. If we think the lad has ability, who gives a f*** if he’s only played quarter of a season.
Because he'll possibly regress under Bruce and look s***. Many players will be at their maximin value right now.
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sell for £35m and insist on a couple of loanees from manyoo part of the deal, rake in some cash and boost the squad (for a while), everyone wins right
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We've got colback firing on half a cylinder so just sell him and let him be a footballer.
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Don’t get why we should sell so low. If we think the lad has ability, who gives a f*** if he’s only played quarter of a season.
Because he'll possibly regress under Bruce and look s***. Many players will be at their maximin value right now.
Regardless of Bruce, I think Ashley is the type who would rather take the profit now if the price is high enough. Yes Longstaff could well be worth a lot more, but Ashley is the type who will think that's worth nothing unless it's in the bank. Then instruct Nixon to find an unknown replacement for a quarter of the amount.
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Sean is getting in the way of Jacky Colbz from Killingworth from getting into the team.
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Bruce feels that while he would like to keep the talented 21 year old, there is strength in depth with highly rated Kyle Scott due on Tyneside, the return of Jack Colback and a reinvigorated Henri Saviet due back from the heartbreak of losing the African Cup of Nations final.
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”plotting”
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”plotting”
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Shall we sign Sean Longstaff? Yes ok.
/plotting
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Their CEO seems as crap as ours
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Their CEO seems as crap as ours
Ha. Not possible.
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I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
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We are waiting Man U
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So all of you guys who are in the burn it all down camp, do you all want Longstaff to get hurt so it f***s up Ashley making a sale and stunts the local kid's career?
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Their CEO seems as crap as ours
he's good at getting random companies to be man utds noodle partner in china or wherever but he's been god awful on the transfer front.
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So all of you guys who are in the burn it all down camp, do you all want Longstaff to get hurt so it f***s up Ashley making a sale and stunts the local kid's career?
partridge shrug
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So all of you guys who are in the burn it all down camp, do you all want Longstaff to get hurt so it f***s up Ashley making a sale and stunts the local kid's career?
Guys :rolleyes:
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I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
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I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
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All gearing up for this lad to be sold on the last day of the window to 'balance the books'.
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I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
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I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
Yeah. Not sure I'd be wishing serious physical harm on a group of lads for playing for our team.
*edit* and also the gay orgy bit.
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I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
Yeah. Not sure I'd be wishing serious physical harm on a group of lads for playing for our team.
*edit* and also the gay orgy bit.
Bad experience?
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I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
that's a good point actually, they're not far off the same age so why would we accept less when you consider the english tax
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I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
that's a good point actually, they're not far off the same age so why would we accept less when you consider the english tax
I'm still not sure why English players fetch such a premium. It's not like teams struggle to fill the home grown quota.
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I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
Yeah. Not sure I'd be wishing serious physical harm on a group of lads for playing for our team.
*edit* and also the gay orgy bit.
Bad experience?
Was that a question or an offer?
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I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
that's a good point actually, they're not far off the same age so why would we accept less when you consider the english tax
He could be worth £50m. To be honest I actually think he could be worth more because influence on a game is something you cant teach but I think the comparison are redundant due to the fact that hes not played enough.
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Keep hoping we've sold him
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So Bruce has just 100% confirmed Longstaff is leaving on deadline day........
Steve Bruce has told Manchester United they have no chance of signing Sean Longstaff. “That won’t happen. I’m very confident," the new Newcastle boss assured supporters. “We don’t want to sell our best young players, that’s for sure.” #nufc [Mirror]
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Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
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Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Eh how can you say that Mike is his best mate now he wouldn't lie to him "he's been as straight as a die with me"
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Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Eh how can you say that Mike is his best mate now he wouldn't lie to him "he's been as straight as a die with me"
Str88888888 as a banana, tbh.
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Bet the FCC gets that one over the line.
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Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Eh how can you say that Mike is his best mate now he wouldn't lie to him "he's been as straight as a die with me"
"so far" :naughty: :azn:
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Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Nevertheless, Ashley won't want to make him look stupid so early in his term as manager. It does suggest that we aren't actively looking to sell Longstaff yet, although obviously if a big enough offer comes in, any player is for sale.
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Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Nevertheless, Ashley won't want to make him look stupid so early in his term as manager. It does suggest that we aren't actively looking to sell Longstaff yet, although obviously if a big enough offer comes in, any player is for sale.
he'll probably look at maguire going for £80m or whatever and think it'll be a piece of p*ss for longstaff to be as good as he was last season for the whole of this one
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We're never paying £50m for Longstaff so if that's the price, you can all relax. It's not happening.
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We're never paying £50m for Longstaff so if that's the price, you can all relax. It's not happening.
aye you'll be paying £90m next summer m8
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Certain to stay now, Manure don’t f*** around, if they really wanted him the deal would have been done by now.
He’s staying.
Shame
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
Pogba & Lukaku are still the bad apples that need moving on. They won't of course and end up doing their usual stuff.
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
A poor reshape, but then again Solskjær is a crap manager and shouldn't be anywhere near your club.
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Lukaku is as far away from a bad apple as you can get. :lol: He's extremely professional. I'll be sad to see him go.
What's their usual stuff by the way? Scoring goals and getting assists? :lol: Pogba was incredibly productive last season. He's just a bellend.
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
A poor reshape, but then again Solskjær is a crap manager and shouldn't be anywhere near your club.
Based on?
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Certain to stay now, Manure don’t f*** around, if they really wanted him the deal would have been done by now.
He’s staying.
Shame
You're a strange character.
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Certain to stay now, Manure don’t f*** around, if they really wanted him the deal would have been done by now.
He’s staying.
Shame
You're a strange character.
Cheers, you been on glue ? If not , have a fork off from me . O0
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They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
Read “James” as James Rodriguez and thought WOT?! How’d I miss that.
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We're never paying £50m for Longstaff so if that's the price, you can all relax. It's not happening.
Good. Would much rather have Longstaff than £50m. He's got everything he needs to be a top premiership midfielder. In fact some would argue he already is one.
Stick yer £50m up yer Solkjaarse. :)
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Genuinely switched off towards the end of last season to try and distance myself emotionally for when Rafa's leaving happened.
Can anybody fill me in a bit more on Longstaff and what he's got that's making him being touted for such money? This isn't me being obtuse I just haven't seen anywhere near enough of what I'd like to have of him.
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Genuinely switched off towards the end of last season to try and distance myself emotionally for when Rafa's leaving happened.
Can anybody fill me in a bit more on Longstaff and what he's got that's making him being touted for such money? This isn't me being obtuse I just haven't seen anywhere near enough of what I'd like to have of him.
His last few games before his injury he totally schooled a lot of midfielders that had played in the premiership for years, he has an eye for a pass, long or short can tackle and can score goals.
If Vieira and Scholes had a child it would be Longstaff, however I don't know how he would cope over a full season.
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Good vision. Seems mature.
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Homegrown Bobby Lee
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Hearing he’s wanting clarification regarding his future. He knows Man Utd want him and his people have spoken to them (maybe there’s been a bit of tapping up?). He’s keen to stay at Newcastle, but wants to know where he stands so he can focus on fighting for a first team place here rather than worrying about moving sticks at the last minute. I’m told he’s not using any interest to ask for more money right now or demanding to move.
By all accounts he’s a level headed lad who is just hungry to play. Preferably for the Toon, I also think moving away would be a culture shock for him and not something he’d want to just happen at this stage of his career if helped. I’m sure his people who some are family members will want to get him a better deal out if this if he stays though. And rightly so.
Long term, he will have to move for his own good, short term I don’t think it would harm him to stay here and establish himself for a season or two. It may actually benefit him because I don’t think he’d start for Man Utd every game. I suppose he’d be confident in his own abilities enough to justify to himself at least leaving all he knows for the unknown. It’s Man Utd after all.
My gut feeling is Ashley is holding out for as much money as possible until the last minute like with Carroll who he was always going to sell once he knew how serious Liverpool were. When it gets to that point, money talks in the end and always wins, especially with Ashley.
If he doesn’t leave, if he carries on from where he left off, if someone doesn’t pay the asking price now, they will soon. Maybe even more. Man Utd rate him highly it seems and see him as a modern day Carrick and someone who can fill that kind of role he did so well for them.
It wouldn't surprise me either if Bruce was to play a part in any deal as a connected person at both clubs, for a small fee of course...
Either way Longstaff is money in the bank to Ashley, someone to sell for big money or keep and save having to spend some money.
I predict he’ll leave on the final day of the transfer window for just over what Carroll went for, rising to more based on appearances, England caps etc. We may even get a player in return thrown in, on loan or as part of the deal.
Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
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If he stays fit he'll be either our or Man u's player of the season.
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I rate him highly I have to say, he’s a proper footballer as Souness would say and his game belies his age and inexperience. He’s never going to be outstanding or all action, but he’s going to be critical for whenever he plays for, on and off the ball, going forward and in front if the defence. If he added goals to his game...
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
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He’s not the fastest but always seems to have space on the ball. He’s intelligent, uses his feet well and he has a great engine.
His passing range is decent. Nowhere near Shelvey but his other attributes make him far more vital in keeping the team tick over.
The fact he played about 40 games for Blackpool the season before has stood to him. He’s ready.
Once he gets into his stride this season, 50m will seem cheap.
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He’s not the fastest but always seems to have space on the ball. He’s intelligent, uses his feet well and he has a great engine.
His passing range is decent. Nowhere near Shelvey but his other attributes make him far more vital in keeping the team tick over.
The fact he played about 40 games for Blackpool the season before has stood to him. He’s ready.
Once he gets into his stride this season, 50m will seem cheap.
Will tear it up for "United" this year.
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I rate him highly I have to say, he’s a proper footballer as Souness would say and his game belies his age and inexperience. He’s never going to be outstanding or all action, but he’s going to be critical for whenever he plays for, on and off the ball, going forward and in front if the defence. If he added goals to his game...
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
No no, you should listen to your elders more. ;)
Tony Green is my all-time favourite, with Gazza running him close. Len White was before my time.
I've such high hopes of Longstaff. He doesn't seem to have a weakness in his all round game. Whatever the situation, however the ball comes to him, he can be trusted to do something with it. That's a priceless asset in a midfielder. I've seen good players go - Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza - but letting this lad go at this stage would be the biggest heartache.
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Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
Not sure you've got your geography quite right here, tbh.
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Those “New Member” tags are surprisingly valuable...
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My dad said Len White was phenomenal
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Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
Not sure you've got your geography quite right here, tbh.
Wow not even one of the players is from Mexico :lol:
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Imagine if the PFM picks a midfield against Arsenal with Colback in it and leaves Longstaff on the bench. The meltdown on here will be glorious.
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Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
Not sure you've got your geography quite right here, tbh.
For future reference, it’s HTT’s favourite joke.
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I thought he left? Farewell leaving post et al?
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My dad said Len White was phenomenal
My dad says the exact same thing pretty much whenever we talk about strikers
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2 long @HTT classic rambles littered with fact, fiction, jokes, etc. a bit like a Gibbo column.
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I thought he left? Farewell leaving post et al?
Flounced you mean?
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I thought he left? Farewell leaving post et al?
Been on holiday in Mexico.
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I thought he left? Farewell leaving post et al?
Been on holiday in Mexico.
That was Spain mate
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I rate him highly I have to say, he’s a proper footballer as Souness would say and his game belies his age and inexperience. He’s never going to be outstanding or all action, but he’s going to be critical for whenever he plays for, on and off the ball, going forward and in front if the defence. If he added goals to his game...
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
Your old timer pals think Pardew was alright because he was a PFM, same way as Bruce will be, or Pulis or Warnock for that matter. They probably witter on about how the game is too soft these days, the balls are too light, and real men don't wear gloves. It's great that they will appreciate Longstaff, truly one of the best homegrown talents we've seen since Gazza. But the same blokes probably think the sun shines out of Colback's arse as well.
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I rate him highly I have to say, he’s a proper footballer as Souness would say and his game belies his age and inexperience. He’s never going to be outstanding or all action, but he’s going to be critical for whenever he plays for, on and off the ball, going forward and in front if the defence. If he added goals to his game...
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
No no, you should listen to your elders more. ;)
Tony Green is my all-time favourite, with Gazza running him close. Len White was before my time.
I've such high hopes of Longstaff. He doesn't seem to have a weakness in his all round game. Whatever the situation, however the ball comes to him, he can be trusted to do something with it. That's a priceless asset in a midfielder. I've seen good players go - Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza - but letting this lad go at this stage would be the biggest heartache.
And yet, i'd bet my house you'd be on here justifying it within 30 minutes.
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Interesting how Matty Longstaff was the only one out of the youngsters (Watts, Cass, Allen, Sorensen et al) to feature at Preston. I wonder if Bruce has told him they'll play together within 6-12 months as a way to keep him engaged.
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Interesting how Matty Longstaff was the only one out of the youngsters (Watts, Cass, Allen, Sorensen et al) to feature at Preston. I wonder if Bruce has told him they'll play together within 6-12 months as a way to keep him engaged.
Genuinely never seen this lad, any good?
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Interesting how Matty Longstaff was the only one out of the youngsters (Watts, Cass, Allen, Sorensen et al) to feature at Preston. I wonder if Bruce has told him they'll play together within 6-12 months as a way to keep him engaged.
Genuinely never seen this lad, any good?
Only seen him for the 10 or so minutes that he was on against West Ham, but he looked good.
A few months ago, someone within the club told me that they have high hopes of him.
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If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
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If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
I’m not so sure, Rafa had him full of confidence, SB will not have him and others at the same level.
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If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
You have to stop saying Manure man. :lol: So cringe.
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Says they’ll only sign him if Pogba leaves, so they still might want Longstaff.
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His brother was rated better than Sean before last season. And he did look up to the tempo compare with other youngsters so I think he deserves a run. At worst just another Sammy.
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If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
You have to stop saying Manure man. :lol: So cringe.
It's as bad as poocastle imo
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If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
You have to stop saying Manure man. :lol: So cringe.
My pettiness knows no bounds - Manure, Citeh, Chel$ki, Wet Spam, Spuds, The Arse, f***ing Liverpool. f*** them all :lol:
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Poocastle. :lol: FFS.
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This guy is very good
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This guy is very good
What Froggy ? nah he's toilet.
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This guy is very good
What Froggy ? nah he's toilet.
I think Froggy might end up seeing more of him than us this season.
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This guy is very good
What Froggy ? nah he's toilet.
I think Froggy might end up seeing more of him than us this season.
Very true :lol:
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Na he won't like. Not from his armchair in Co Durham which is where most manure fans are from
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Na he won't like. Not from his armchair in Co Durham which is where most manure fans are from
Deary me
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Well it's true. There Ireland and Essex
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Well it's true. There Ireland and Essex
The Essex bit i can testify to as being fairly accurate.
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CDM is relentless
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GDM is relentless
FYP
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GDM is relentless
FYP
You are fooling no one. Same annoying s**** repetitive patter
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I hate how disconnected I am from the club right now when I see this lad playing well.
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Na he won't like. Not from his armchair in Co Durham which is where most manure fans are from
:hmm:
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£50 million.not a penny less.
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£50 million.not a penny less.
Have you got split personality!? What does it matter 5m or 50m!? Only goes to that fat c***. You even say this yourself so strange how you are wanting 50m now
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Sean Longstaff is the best reason to Boycott Newcastle.. he has played 10 games and Man Utd want to pay £25 million and the only reason he will not get sold is because Newcastle want closer to £50 million.
They know after a season in the Premier league he is going to be worth that + if he has a good season.
And then what? We start again with probably his brother (if he is good enough) and also the players brought in being sold off.
So at what point do we go forward as a club? without the odd fluke we are nothing but a shop.
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So is every club bar 4 or 5 (your Man City, Manure, Barcelona, etc).
The problem is that any money coming in won’t be reinvested. So if they do happen to stumble across a player like Longstaff, despite the utter embarrassment we have of a youth system, there’s not even a conveyor belt to ensure that another youngster will come through. We’ve had two decent players come through in 10 years ffs. And even then one of them has only had a handful of PL games.
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Agree,the rich clubs are going off into the distance now.
Still not convinced this lad will go,part of me wants him to.sad
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The express and the mail, both Manchester based wont let the Sean Longstaff story go. The keep reporting that Man U will try to get him today, despite Bruce and Ashley stating he is simply not for sale, and are now reporting that if Man U don't get him now (for £50m) they will have to pay £70m next summer. I say that if Manu are prepared to pay £50m for him today, he will be worth double that if he has an injury free season with us and also gets an England call up. Hopefully Ashley will agree if they come back in with a £50m bid today.
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The express and the mail, both Manchester based wont let the Sean Longstaff story go. The keep reporting that Man U will try to get him today, despite Bruce and Ashley stating he is simply not for sale, and are now reporting that if Man U don't get him now (for £50m) they will have to pay £70m next summer. I say that if Manu are prepared to pay £50m for him today, he will be worth double that if he has an injury free season with us and also gets an England call up. Hopefully Ashley will agree if they come back in with a £50m bid today.
£35 Million Andy Carroll say Hi
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The express and the mail, both Manchester based wont let the Sean Longstaff story go. The keep reporting that Man U will try to get him today, despite Bruce and Ashley stating he is simply not for sale, and are now reporting that if Man U don't get him now (for £50m) they will have to pay £70m next summer. I say that if Manu are prepared to pay £50m for him today, he will be worth double that if he has an injury free season with us and also gets an England call up. Hopefully Ashley will agree if they come back in with a £50m bid today.
:lol: :lol:
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Surprised he's not on the transfer Chopper yet, he must be hiding in his car that's covered by Bruce's coat
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So is every club bar 4 or 5 (your Man City, Manure, Barcelona, etc).
The problem is that any money coming in won’t be reinvested. So if they do happen to stumble across a player like Longstaff, despite the utter embarrassment we have of a youth system, there’s not even a conveyor belt to ensure that another youngster will come through. We’ve had two decent players come through in 10 years ffs. And even then one of them has only had a handful of PL games.
I think there is a difference. Yes, players will often move on if a top club comes and turns heads, or a club simply can't turn down the offer, like Coutinho at Liverpool, and more recently Maguire at Leicester, but I genuinely don't believe Leicester bought Harry a couple of years ago, simply to sell at a profit a year or two later, whereas it really is the case for us. If Joelinton and ASM are still with us in 2 years, certainly no more than 3, then they won't have been as successful as both they or the club had hoped. I think it's quite feasable to think that Maguire could have stayed at Leicester longer than he did.
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All clubs sometimes need to sell, but it’s to fund either financial survival or some sort of progress. We don’t need to fund survival, we buy players to sell so that it doesn’t cost anything to keep the club running at the minimum.
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There is nothing at NUFC that is not for sale.
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There is nothing at NUFC that is not for sale.
Aside from NUFC itself.
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I'm going to take a punt and say this summer was his 'Tiote to Man Utd' moment and the fat lad will be devastated to have not sold him for big money when he had the chance.
Cabbage heed will insist on playing Shelvey through the middle, edging out Longstaff to RCM/LCM where he'll be miles less effective as he'll have far less time on the ball and be under far more pressure to distribute it meaning more mistakes and a drop in confidence.
TL:DR - Bruce will kill his career.
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I'm going to take a punt and say this summer was his 'Tiote to Man Utd' moment and the fat lad will be devastated to have not sold him for big money when he had the chance.
Cabbage heed will insist on playing Shelvey through the middle, edging out Longstaff to RCM/LCM where he'll be miles less effective as he'll have far less time on the ball and be under far more pressure to distribute it meaning more mistakes and a drop in confidence.
TL:DR - Bruce will kill his career.
Aye, completely agree.
His potential career trajectory under Bruce is far lower than under Rafa. We'll never get an offer bigger than that one.
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There is nothing at NUFC that is not for sale.
Aside from NUFC itself.
:thup: :lol:
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I'm going to take a punt and say this summer was his 'Tiote to Man Utd' moment and the fat lad will be devastated to have not sold him for big money when he had the chance.
Cabbage heed will insist on playing Shelvey through the middle, edging out Longstaff to RCM/LCM where he'll be miles less effective as he'll have far less time on the ball and be under far more pressure to distribute it meaning more mistakes and a drop in confidence.
TL:DR - Bruce will kill his career.
Aye, completely agree.
His potential career trajectory under Bruce is far lower than under Rafa. We'll never get an offer bigger than that one.
Same as all of them tbf. Schar made more mistakes on Sunday than he did during the whole Rafa reign.
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I see this c*** has came out and said we all need forget about Rafa and to get behind Bruce. What a w*****. Another Ashley minion. Stick this w***** on the list
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I see this c*** has came out and said we all need forget about Rafa and to get behind Bruce. What a w*****. Another Ashley minion. Stick this w***** on the list
Give him a break, he's on peanuts and saying a few nice things about Mike and/or his puppet Steve is going to be a condition of him getting a new (still low paid) deal.
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Shortstaff was sitting with Bishop and thumb man last game wasn't he?
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Shortstaff was sitting with Bishop and thumb man last game wasn't he?
Yep, Bruce also dropped/rested Sean that day. I think True Faith commented that it may have had something to do with contract negotiations. Our regime is as malevolent as they come so I think there's probably something shady in all of this.
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Aye he's on the list. Daft c***
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Player in toeing party line of people that pay his wages shocker.
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We've been through this before. Just don't say anything in that case
Hardly like he's working a 9-5 and at risk of getting sacked ffs. He could say whatever he wants and still get paid. He's a high value asset for the club he could call Ashley a c*** in the media and nothing would happen. Coming out with that s*** about forgetting Rafa and moving on with Bruce. Sicknening s***
On the list he goes
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We've been through this before. Just don't say anything in that case
He probably HAS to say it to get a new deal. This is Ashley he's/we're dealing with.
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I see this c*** has came out and said we all need forget about Rafa and to get behind Bruce. What a w*****. Another Ashley minion. Stick this w***** on the list
Was it the royal 'We'?
Or was it directed at the fans?
I've got no problem with any professional saying they need to focus on their job. I'll assume from your outrage that it was clearly directed at the fans.
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Player in toeing party line of people that pay his wages shocker.
Look at Dubs interview a while ago for the blue print on how to do it without pissing off either the fans nor the regime. It's not rocket science and Longstaff should know better.
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"Sean Longstaff has urged Newcastle United's supporters to forget about former manager Rafa Benitez and get behind the team."
Aye. What a w***** ey