Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:15:50 PM
Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.
Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:19:28 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:20:31 PM
Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.
Aye, I've cursed the poor lad. Hope he likes playing for Gateshead :lol:
Post by: Chicane on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:27:07 PM
Surprised by how big he is.
Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing
Post by: Menace on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:35:44 PM
Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.
:lol:
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:45:12 PM
Can he do a shift up front?
Post by: Andymc1 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:42:58 PM
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:48:26 PM
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:53:08 PM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:53:50 PM
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:04:13 PM
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:05:42 PM
Guess we will try to send him on loan to a Championship club.
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:11:08 PM
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:13:52 PM
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:14:16 PM
#nufc have postponed Sean Longstaff’s loan move to Portsmouth for now. They will review situation again in two weeks. He will remain with first team for now.
— Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder) July 18, 2018
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:16:32 PM
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:16:59 PM
He was set to sign for Portsmouth on loan but club have pulled it. Either Rafa likes the look of him or we want him playing at a higher standard.
Or we're potentially short of bodies with Hayden's situation.
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:35:02 PM
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 11:17:52 PM
Post by: Zero on Thursday 19 July 2018, 06:46:19 AM
Written off by page 1 and sold by page 2
Post by: Varadi on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:16:06 AM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
:lol: That's the spirit!
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:07:36 AM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:15:06 AM
Written off by page 1 and sold by page 2
And we were making love by page 3
And on page 4, page 5 and page 6
We chilled on seven.
Post by: sleazy on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:17:01 AM
I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?
Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.
Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.
his dad (former GB ice hockey player) David is a big bloke too so not surprising.
Post by: hakka on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:35:32 AM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
:thup:
Given Ashley's being a massive c*** with signing players, we desperately need a few gems to come good from the academy.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:41:50 AM
Post by: hakka on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:49:32 AM
Even if Ashley wasn't a c*** I'd want young players to come through. Despite our failures in the academy there are about 5 or 6 right now I have high hopes for.
Not quite sure why you would say that - surely everyone wants young players to come through at all times? - but if we are not making first team signings then it's even more helpful if they do come through.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:01:52 PM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
:lol: That's the spirit!
:lol: weighed and measured, shame for the lad that no player has ever improved as they get older
Post by: Sean on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:13:25 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:17:18 PM
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 19 July 2018, 08:43:41 PM
Money doesn't make players goodOf course it does. Unless I'm being wooshed
Post by: samptime29 on Thursday 19 July 2018, 08:46:01 PM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
Quick judgement. Harsh
Post by: mighty__mag on Friday 20 July 2018, 11:18:53 AM
Surprised by how big he is.
Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing
:lol: class
Post by: Sean on Friday 20 July 2018, 06:38:02 PM
Money doesn't make players good :lol:
:lol:
Don't know where to start tbh...money lets you bring in better young players for a start. Then better facilities, coaching etc. We just go for local lads no other club decides to take and then let Beardsley et al 'coach' them :lol:
Post by: Menace on Friday 20 July 2018, 06:41:15 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 20 July 2018, 06:41:22 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:12:07 PM
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:20:42 PM
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
But it can be developed and nurtured. We just produce the non-league players of the future in this tin pot club
Post by: joeyt on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:34:27 PM
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?
Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:39:00 PM
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgct3Jn8pFA
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:42:19 PM
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?
Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team
and that's before getting onto how the talent that we do have are often more attracted to the likes of 'boro, where the youth development pisses all over ours. Dunno how anyone could say what Liam's said with a straight face tbh. Our lack of backing for local talent is why we ended up having to pay a world record fee for a player that should have been with us from the beginning but might have ended up on the scrap heap if he'd stayed, same with Beardsley and Carrick.
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:07:15 AM
Surprised by how big he is.
Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing
:lol: class
He came good in a FM game for me so I dubbed him Sean Big Dick. Still think of him as this...
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:44:03 AM
Bang on. Unless Sewelly’s been to plenty reserve matches/Blackpool games where Longstaff played it’s a bit of a sad comment.He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 21 July 2018, 02:22:29 PM
Post by: Greg on Saturday 21 July 2018, 02:52:18 PM
I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.
In general terms for the current youth players, yes. In the case of a young player that has already proven himself successful at League 1 level - no.
Post by: Odear on Saturday 21 July 2018, 02:59:39 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:00:49 PM
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
Off the back of one game? I mean he's probably got a good future but that seems pretty crazy
Post by: Greg on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:17:46 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:26:26 PM
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?
Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team
Yep
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:42:59 PM
I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.
In general terms for the current youth players, yes. In the case of a young player that has already proven himself successful at League 1 level - no.
Maybe.
However, if a player is reaching 21 and has never been involved at any England level I'd be a bit apprehensive about his PL potential.
Obviously there's counter examples and lets hope he's one of them.
Post by: HTT on Sunday 22 July 2018, 03:45:11 PM
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
They did and it can be argued that academies have actually had a negative effect on natural talent, we are certainly seeing fewer type of players or different styles, but that isn’t why NUFC fail to produce any talent.
It is out there, but when they end up at the club a combination of poor facilities and coaching prevents them from developing and when they do get to 18-20 their chances of making it at the club is almost non existent and just as slim making it as a pro even lower down.
Players that have a bit more about them and do break into the first-team need a manager who values youth and who can develop thing in an environment that allows that.
Under Keegan and Sir Bobby to an extent where we had a team of good players and there was a pressure to win and challenge, unless a player was of undoubted talent, their route into the team would likely be blocked by a big money signing which is the kind of players fans demand and a team challenging needs.
Today, we could really do with a pool of talent coming through because we have an environment where we don’t have the kind of money to go and blow on certain positions and a manager that values youth and is renowned for developing it.
But our owner doesn’t care about any of that and as such our immediate future on the pitch is weakened by not having an academy or facilities up to scratch that young kids want to join (they opt for Boro or Sunderland more often than not) and if they do, they won’t develop to any decent standard anyway.
Andy Carrol and Dumett man :lol:
Post by: Dave on Sunday 22 July 2018, 04:25:59 PM
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell. :lol:
Post by: Rich on Sunday 22 July 2018, 05:33:40 PM
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell. :lol:
Is Odin a joke account?
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 22 July 2018, 07:30:38 PM
Takes one to know oneIf Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell.
Is Odin a joke account?
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 22 July 2018, 07:31:04 PM
Takes one to know oneIf Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
f***ing hell.
Is Odin a joke account?
So is he, then?
Post by: CPL on Monday 23 July 2018, 08:42:58 PM
Post by: Odear on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:37:02 PM
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:43:18 PM
He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:45:27 PM
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from O0He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
Post by: Odear on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:50:12 PM
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from O0He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
It would be Ashley's wet dream if we had a model like Southampton.
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:57:48 PM
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from O0He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.
He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.
Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
It would be Ashley's wet dream if we had a model like Southampton.
Maybe someone should tell him that if we improve the facilities there is more likelihood of this happening?
Post by: ads on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 09:35:57 AM
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
:lol: :lol: "more than ready..."
Played a decent game in a friendly against St. Pats and now he's Diame's understudy. Love this place.
Post by: Cookie1892 on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:15:04 AM
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:18:45 AM
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.
Post by: wormy on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:51:56 AM
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.
Can't wait for the window that it bolsters the ol' warchest.
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 11:45:26 AM
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad
think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.
Can't wait for the window that it bolsters the ol' warchest.
It's dribbling in, 100k at a time. Paying for PR.
Post by: Odear on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:09:44 PM
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:21:42 PM
Post by: 54 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:28:09 PM
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:28:55 PM
Will be playing in League 1 though cos Neesy said so.
Post by: Sho'Time on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:30:04 PM
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:31:05 PM
Had a 30-second spell where he looked decent, other than that it was a performance Jack Colback would have been proud of.
Nah
Post by: triggs on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:31:24 PM
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:31:39 PM
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:32:04 PM
Still, a career of Championship football awaits.
Post by: triggs on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:33:05 PM
He should be buzzing tonight.
Still, a career of Championship football awaits.
We'll be a match made in heaven so
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:33:44 PM
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:34:18 PM
North Shields lad so not unexpected.
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:35:06 PM
Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.
Aye he played well but he definitely lacks athleticism
Post by: summerof69 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:36:23 PM
Picks good options and moves the ball in a timely fashion. Very very good traits.
Post by: Anderson on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:41:43 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:48:56 PM
Biggest compliment you can pay him is that he took Diame's place and I didn't really notice Diame not being there off the ball. Any hairy moments seemed to come through Hayden.
Post by: SteV on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:56:43 PM
Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.
Agree in terms of his athletic dynamism, but he’s obviously got a seriously good engine, and can provide very good ‘legs’. Clearly you need plenty more than that at PL level, but he had at least showed a decent range of passing in the second half, and looking at his goals on loan to Blackpool, he has a canny dig on him too. Early days, but certainly a bit of promise.
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:59:45 PM
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:17:23 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:53:25 PM
Post by: mickthemagpie on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:55:26 PM
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:55:59 PM
He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.
Aye cos North Shields produces pure loads of mint players :lol:
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:56:44 PM
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:28:23 PM
He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.
Aye cos North Shields produces pure loads of mint players :lol:
Class driving instructors too.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:36:12 PM
It's one game.
Post by: Menace on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:38:25 PM
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:41:37 PM
I understand Crumpy is a gunt, but there's no need to get personal is there
You're right, uncalled for input from me. I take it back - I'm sure he doesn't care anyway, I'm just an anonymous guy on a forum, not only that but I'm from South Shields. Practically a mackem.
Post by: TRon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:50:08 PM
Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.
Pretty sure Diame was always athletic as he is now. :lol:
Longstaff is a tidy player with decent awareness, but I agree that he doesn't maybe have quite enough athleticism for the top level. I remember when Steve Watson made his debut (at 16 I think) his pace and athleticism stood out even at that age. Maybe Longstaff will develop it.
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:51:24 PM
Post by: TRon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:53:36 PM
He wasn’t though, he was lumbering and not sharp.
probably lack of match fitness at this level or needing to adapt to the pace of the game here.
Post by: Away Toon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:05:02 PM
Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
:lol:
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:22:49 PM
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:49:27 PM
Didn't put a foot wrong. Tired a bit at the end but by far our best player today.
Did more than enough to keep his place in the starting eleven for the Cardiff game.
Post by: nufc4eva on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:57:34 PM
Post by: Keggy_Keagal on Sunday 13 January 2019, 12:04:12 AM
Post by: Odear on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:18:59 AM
Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
Yep that says it all really.
Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.
If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:24:03 AM
Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
Yep that says it all really.
Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.
If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..
Really? When all available you want Longstaff to play :lol:
Post by: Odear on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:30:49 AM
Post by: St1pe on Sunday 13 January 2019, 06:37:50 AM
Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
Post by: nufc4eva on Sunday 13 January 2019, 06:47:17 AM
Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
Yep that says it all really.
Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.
If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..
Really? When all available you want Longstaff to play :lol:
We are completely f***ed, may as well give him a chance. We won't stay up anyway
Post by: The Merse on Sunday 13 January 2019, 06:51:22 AM
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 13 January 2019, 08:50:26 AM
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:32:04 PM
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Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 13 January 2019, 03:05:33 PM
Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.
Stamina arguably, not speed across the ground. I'm not criticizing him like just an observation. He played really well
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 13 January 2019, 03:07:37 PM
Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
Lol calm down. Literally all was said is he isn't particularly athletic. Everyone has rightly said he had a good game.
Post by: Cookie1892 on Monday 14 January 2019, 08:50:44 AM
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:20:06 PM
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:20:41 PM
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:21:25 PM
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:21:34 PM
Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:21:53 PM
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:22:14 PM
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:22:21 PM
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:22:48 PM
Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:23:41 PM
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:23:55 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:24:13 PM
Looks a decent prospect. Would start him ahead of Hayden.
I think Rafa had Hayden starting Saturday against Cardiff as he was on the bench, I'm the same as you i think he should start ahead of Hayden, don't think he will now he's done 120 minutes.
Just in two or so games he's looked far better than Hayden.
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:24:22 PM
Nah, I've really liked Longstaff from the first time I saw him, you are just massively underrating MaticLooks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:26:38 PM
Nah, I've really liked Longstaff from the first time I saw him, you are just massively underrating MaticLooks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
It was slightly tongue in cheek like. Obviously Matic is nowhere near as good.
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:26:45 PM
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:27:26 PM
I hope he has an Irish granny.
Be a shame for him to get deported.
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:28:53 PM
I hope he has an Irish granny.Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
Post by: Rich on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:29:49 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:31:56 PM
christ are things so desperate for us we're asking kids in the Newcastle Academy if they can play for usI hope he has an Irish granny.Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:32:30 PM
What a win does, eh. Imagine if we were good.
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:33:14 PM
I hope he has an Irish granny.
Be a shame for him to get deported.
Brexit means Brexit, no U-turns allowed.
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:33:30 PM
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:33:55 PM
I hope he has an Irish granny.Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
I'm not worried, in a couple of months he will be desperate for a brown passport.
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:35:53 PM
Post by: Rich on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:37:04 PM
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:40:40 PM
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:46:05 PM
Well it would’ve been for our underage teams likechrist are things so desperate for us we're asking kids in the Newcastle Academy if they can play for usI hope he has an Irish granny.Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:46:36 PM
Post by: Robster on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:56:22 PM
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Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 09:51:21 AM
Dave is spinning in his tomb
Looks like it falls to me to be a jobsworth spoilsport and merge them then :razz:
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 11:28:03 AM
Dave is spinning in his tomb
Looks like it falls to me to be a jobsworth spoilsport and merge them then :razz:
(https://i.imgur.com/V7WtFPj.gif)
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 03:40:10 PM
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 04:20:42 PM
Can we not just promote him up the striker pecking order above Joselu at least and start getting him some premier league minutes?He’s a centre mid and started our last league game :lol:
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 05:30:42 PM
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Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 07:15:05 PM
For me, no introduction of a young CM is complete without the rite of passage of John Carver throwing him to the dogs in post-match conferences. Abeid is still shook.
But if we had 11 Jack Colbacks out there we'd be in a much better place.
Post by: Disco on Friday 18 January 2019, 02:24:04 PM
Debut at Anfield; first start at Stamford Bridge; first goal in an FA Cup extra-time win. It’s been some start for @seanlongstaff97 at @NUFC. Nice chat with him today - he’s got an old head on his shoulders. Hear him on @SkySportsNews tomorrow 📺 ⚽️#NUFC (pic courtesy @JonPijnen) pic.twitter.com/Q0vcW9jCXt
— Keith Downie (@SkySports_Keith) January 18, 2019
Post by: huss9 on Friday 18 January 2019, 02:51:46 PM
Post by: brownie21390 on Friday 18 January 2019, 03:16:31 PM
his dad's david longstaff isnt he - the one that played for the steelers?
Yes he is
Post by: HTT on Friday 18 January 2019, 05:08:25 PM
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Post by: ujpest doza on Saturday 19 January 2019, 10:26:56 AM
Post by: covmag on Saturday 19 January 2019, 10:47:41 AM
If we have a future
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 19 January 2019, 11:01:53 AM
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
Post by: HTT on Saturday 19 January 2019, 11:04:06 AM
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
Nah, don’t see that at all.
Post by: Crayola Kid on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:03:22 PM
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
Nah, don’t see that at all.
Bracewell maybe, then? Before injuries cost him much of his game that is. Good control, hard to push off the ball, uses it well under pressure.
Very early days of course. Hope to see plenty more of him, anyway
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:11:28 PM
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:13:49 PM
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:18:14 PM
If there's any two of Diame, Shelvey, Hayden fit for today, this lad will be on the bench so fast his head will spin, Rafa has pretty much shown so far he only uses youth if he absolutely has to.
Not really fair - which of our young players are demanding selection and not getting it?
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 19 January 2019, 01:54:18 PM
He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.
Post by: Greg on Saturday 19 January 2019, 02:12:31 PM
I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.
He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.
We don't have any other central midfielders.
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 19 January 2019, 02:14:28 PM
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 19 January 2019, 02:14:56 PM
I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.
He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.
We don't have any other central midfielders.
This was on the assumption Diame was back today like.
Post by: STM on Saturday 19 January 2019, 04:00:49 PM
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Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:01:57 PM
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Also dont begrudge him when he was fouled not fully playing to the whistle. One of many w*** decisions by the ref. Clear as day that one.
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:09:56 PM
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:11:36 PM
Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.
Good to hear. Reaction time and awareness is (fingers crossed) most likely something he can improve on as he gets more experience with the tempo in this league compared to what he's used to.
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:12:17 PM
Chuffed to see him take advantage of his run in the team and justifying the longer contract with some early promise. :thup:
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:13:20 PM
Such a nice story. The thought of Diame or Shelvey coming back in is actually a bit of a downer.
Hope he keeps his place unless he struggles a bit.
Post by: ElDiablo on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:13:37 PM
Post by: TRon on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:14:56 PM
Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.
Can't see Rafa going without a midfield enforcer, Hayden or Diame are always going to be in there. Longstaff will be competing with Shelvey and Ki for the shirt IMO.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:18:11 PM
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:42:30 PM
Already got a poster of him in the living room O0
:serious:
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 19 January 2019, 06:58:03 PM
Yep. In both cases he will adjust and learn with more experience. Definitely encouraging.Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.
Good to hear. Reaction time and awareness is (fingers crossed) most likely something he can improve on as he gets more experience with the tempo in this league compared to what he's used to.
Post by: Benwell Lad on Saturday 19 January 2019, 10:46:43 PM
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 19 January 2019, 11:36:40 PM
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 20 January 2019, 03:11:32 AM
Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.
Can't see Rafa going without a midfield enforcer, Hayden or Diame are always going to be in there. Longstaff will be competing with Shelvey and Ki for the shirt IMO.
Yep spot on.
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Sunday 20 January 2019, 05:37:03 AM
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Post by: KaKa on Saturday 26 January 2019, 01:34:08 AM
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Good shout.
Nah, don’t see that at all.
Unlucky pal! Rafa knows what I'm saying!
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And, of the 21-year-old, Benitez said: 'I've heard the Michael Carrick comparison and I can see that.
'Carrick, later on, became a holding-midfielder, but at this stage Sean has more mobility and plenty of stamina, he can cover a lot of ground.
'But certainly (like Carrick) he has the technique and can use both feet well. He is also a quiet type and is not someone who loses his head.'
Post by: thomas on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 09:54:51 PM
He must be over the moon. Must be an amazing feeling for a local lad and happy for him.
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 09:57:11 PM
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:05:32 PM
In the right spot at the right time to win the pen, was champion throughout the night everywhere.
He must be over the moon. Must be an amazing feeling for a local lad and happy for him.
Was very impressed with him tonight. Perhaps he’s invisible, and that’s why he got clobbered for the pen :lol:
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:06:25 PM
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Post by: Big Geordie on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Think I heard a "one of our own" chants tonight.
There was indeed. :thup:
Think we have found a player here, fellas. The young'un must be buzzing tonight :)
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:17:04 PM
Want his long staff inside me.
:spit:
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:18:52 PM
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Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:23:29 PM
Want his long staff inside me.
:spit:
:lol:
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:23:43 PM
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Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:25:03 PM
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:26:30 PM
Absolutely superb again, the real deal this lad.
He really is. As far as academy products go he'll be a bigger player than Carroll IMO.
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:32:16 PM
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:34:05 PM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:35:11 PM
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:36:10 PM
Who’d we say would be the best partner for him moving forward? He’s definitely worthy of it being Longstaff plus one when they’re all fit.
Diame and let's see what he can do with a bit more forward licence. I reckon we haven't seen his forte yet which is in the attacking third.
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:36:11 PM
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Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:43:09 PM
I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.
I feel like it’s pretty Damn obvious yet people still keep asking
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:44:09 PM
?s=20Guardiola: “We could not deal with Newcastle’s holding midfielders.” #nufc
— Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder) January 29, 2019
Take that in son.
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:47:24 PM
I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.
I feel like it’s pretty Damn obvious yet people still keep asking
This forum would be pretty light if people didn't repeat the same arguments man, it's essential.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:49:13 PM
?s=20Guardiola: “We could not deal with Newcastle’s holding midfielders.” #nufc
— Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder) January 29, 2019
Take that in son.
Longstaff sold to City for £3m
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:58:04 PM
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:06:41 PM
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:17:26 PM
On form I’d start him even if everyone was fit.
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:19:06 PM
League 2 level IMO
:lol::lol: one of my favourite recent comments on here.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:24:16 PM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:25:50 PM
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:27:24 PM
Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
Samaris started for Benfica tonight, I don't think he's coming.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:27:55 PM
Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
Possibly. I just don't see Longstaff as needing a pure destroyer alongside him. He's not like Ki or Shelvey in the way that he does get stuck in
Post by: toon25 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:28:28 PM
Stepped up when it matters, and showed great composure.
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:31:26 PM
Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
Sounds like a firm of solicitors.
Post by: Tiresias on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:32:36 PM
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Post by: tinoasprilla on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:15:48 AM
Post by: Gorilla on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:22:29 AM
Remember when Abeid beasted man city and immediately got exiledYou have to love pards. Many a career ruined.
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:24:35 AM
Post by: geordiedean on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:37:14 AM
This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.
Should f*** the baldy waste of space off given any bidders
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:44:13 AM
This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.
Should f*** the baldy waste of space off given any bidders
Can't see that happening, if we get samaris in it may allow Hayden to be loaned out though.
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:48:28 AM
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:50:35 AM
Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes
Agree. Would personally love to see how Longstaff kicks on. He's got the tools to be a f***ing great player.
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:52:45 AM
Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes
If this Almiron lad is good enough we might not need Shelvey's passing ability anyway. Would much prefer those opportunities go to someone well rounded and to be frank i even prefer Ki to Shelvey. :lol:
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 01:53:48 AM
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Post by: toontenacity on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 03:21:33 AM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 04:27:29 AM
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.
Post by: toontownman on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 06:24:58 AM
I mean obviously he walks through the door then out the other one when he realises he is completely in the wrong f***ing club. My bad.
Longstaff is a huge bonus for us, with Ki and Shelvey hopefully fit within the next couple of weeks, Diame back to speed and hopefully Samaris for Hayden things definitely look better. Hopefully Sangare gets the chance to train more often with the first team too, potential there and with a few bairns tbf.
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 06:41:47 AM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 06:54:43 AM
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.
don't think anyone means sell him now do they? i'd look to move him in the summer if we decide to operate like a proper club for a change
Ki, Diame, Longstaff, New competing for the 2 spots under Rafa would work for me with maybe another option as backup to that
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 07:03:35 AM
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.
Is Shelvey the type of player who is happy to be a squad player? I don't think so, he's been a bit lackadaisical in the few outings he's had as sub. It will be interesting to see if he gets his place back when he's fit.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 07:04:29 AM
Post by: mozy on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 10:15:52 AM
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:28:42 PM
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
Who said they were avocating doing it today? just meant long term is all.
Post by: thenige on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:37:12 PM
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:48:07 PM
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
Who said they were avocating doing it today? just meant long term is all.
MD and Kanji did right above your response to them. FWIW I'd also advocate doing it in the summer... if we were a properly run club.
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 01:13:56 PM
Post by: huss9 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:26:18 PM
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:33:37 PM
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
Post by: LFEE on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:42:18 PM
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
Why? He’s been our most consistent midfield since West Ham away two Christmas’s ago.
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:43:08 PM
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
He's our most important midfielder tbf.
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:44:13 PM
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
He's our most important midfielder tbf.
I just think he's been a bit s*** this season. His closing down/tackling is fantastic but whenever he has the ball we know we're about to lose it.
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:44:23 PM
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
Why? He’s been our most consistent midfield since West Ham away two Christmas’s ago.
Agree. I prefer Diame to Hayden tbh, closes down the opposition a bit better and just generally shows for the ball more.
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:46:12 PM
:thup:he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
He's our most important midfielder tbf.
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:48:56 PM
Post by: St1pe on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 03:24:42 PM
On form it'd be hard to argue someone should be starting over him even if everyone was fit.
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 03:44:39 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 31 January 2019, 03:08:41 AM
Post by: Zero on Thursday 31 January 2019, 06:27:58 AM
Pep didn't really say anything about him, did he? Seen the headlines but seriously can't see Longstaff's name mentioned, just Pep talking about our "holding midfielders" being a problem in a passage.
Longstaff is one of our “holding midfielders” right?
And it’s from Pep, one of the best “holding midfielders” in his era and the founder of Busquets. I would take his comments very high in this aspect
Post by: David Edgar on Thursday 31 January 2019, 06:46:40 AM
Post by: STM on Thursday 31 January 2019, 07:31:29 AM
Sean Longstaff should thank his lucky stars that he has Rafas tutelage at such a young age.
There's a few of our players who would be absolute dog s*** under worse managers.
Post by: James on Thursday 31 January 2019, 07:49:17 AM
He’s clearly been listening as it shows from the consistency in his early performances and the faith Rafa has shown in him.
Colback for example was the exact opposite.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 31 January 2019, 07:52:50 AM
Post by: Zero on Thursday 31 January 2019, 10:12:43 AM
I don't think Pep was thinking "relative to how Busquets plays" when he made that comment. Rafa set up our pivot to perfection, so both players shone.
Nah I just mean in terms of rating an holding midfielder Pep should be one of the best in the world.
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 10:21:00 AM
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Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 2 February 2019, 12:54:25 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:30:56 PM
Post by: LV on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:32:08 PM
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:52:38 PM
Post by: TRon on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:54:23 PM
Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
Post by: LV on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:55:27 PM
I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
Post by: TRon on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:58:39 PM
I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
I think the Ardiles Thompson played for Bolton as well, could be the same one?
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:59:00 PM
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:59:23 PM
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 2 February 2019, 03:12:48 PM
Post by: STM on Saturday 2 February 2019, 03:24:58 PM
It's a shame he is likely to get lost in the shuffle over the next couple of weeks. He deserves to keep his place tbh. Going back to a squad role now is going to suck for his development.
Rafa will keep working with him. I think he will get the wolves game too tbf.
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 2 February 2019, 03:38:45 PM
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Post by: Sima on Saturday 2 February 2019, 08:29:41 PM
Needs to work on his shooting though :lol:
Post by: OCK on Saturday 2 February 2019, 08:30:20 PM
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Post by: ujpest doza on Monday 4 February 2019, 11:43:10 AM
That's the same one. Broke his neck in a car crash while a youth team player for us.I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.Like this lad, really want him to do well.
Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?
Post by: Hughesy on Monday 4 February 2019, 12:55:59 PM
Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.
Was really impressed by his ability to do this. Always seemed to be able to create a bit of space for himself.
Post by: Toon No9 on Monday 4 February 2019, 01:54:46 PM
I think Longstaff and Ki together would have a calming effect on the team as both seems to create the space for themself instead of just hoof it up the pitch and hope for the best.Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.
Was really impressed by his ability to do this. Always seemed to be able to create a bit of space for himself.
Exited to get to see them play together.
Post by: Ian W on Monday 4 February 2019, 01:59:06 PM
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Post by: Tribesman on Monday 4 February 2019, 05:46:37 PM
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Post by: Dokko on Monday 4 February 2019, 09:49:15 PM
Diame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 4 February 2019, 09:52:06 PM
Diame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.
Post by: Dokko on Monday 4 February 2019, 09:55:25 PM
Diame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.
Apart from the last 4-5 months of last season (which he was incredible) he’s been f***ing hopeless.
I doubt he’ll be playing for us next season, unless we go down.
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 4 February 2019, 10:03:15 PM
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Monday 4 February 2019, 10:30:00 PM
AgreedDiame needs to be in the team.
Aye, someone else’s.
Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.
Apart from the last 4-5 months of last season (which he was incredible) he’s been f***ing hopeless.
I doubt he’ll be playing for us next season, unless we go down.
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 09:02:47 AM
Post by: Toon No9 on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 10:16:27 AM
I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.Bring David Batty back from retirement then!!!😉
Best DM ever imo.
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 11:14:14 AM
I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.Bring David Batty back from retirement then!!!😉
Best DM ever imo.
He was immense 👍
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 9 February 2019, 05:48:15 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 9 February 2019, 05:49:31 PM
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Saturday 9 February 2019, 05:55:23 PM
Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.Did you tell him how much you hate Rafa but refuse to say who you think should replace him?
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:09:20 PM
I didn't think that discussing the managers inane tactics was an apt subject. But, I'll remember for next time.Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.Did you tell him how much you hate Rafa but refuse to say who you think should replace him?
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:12:34 PM
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:40:56 PM
Does he still live at the coast Crumpy? I think he was in school there?As far as I know he's from down that way. Good to see him oblige the kids with photos etc. He was at Benfield v Shields with his fatha and brother.
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:46:17 PM
Post by: HTT on Saturday 9 February 2019, 09:20:14 PM
Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
Funny that, my mate who volunteers taking calls for the Samaritans swears he’s just had Longstaff on the phone. Said he sounded down as f***.
Post by: astraguy on Saturday 9 February 2019, 09:24:43 PM
Post by: Toon No9 on Sunday 10 February 2019, 08:44:08 AM
Handed in a transfer requestWho?
Post by: Sima on Sunday 10 February 2019, 08:45:50 AM
Post by: Hhtoon on Sunday 10 February 2019, 09:27:19 AM
Handed in a transfer requestWho?
Crumpy. Wants to join a club with a proper manager. Though he doesn't know who that might be.
Post by: La Parka on Monday 11 February 2019, 09:49:42 PM
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 11 February 2019, 09:55:53 PM
Post by: triggs on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:02:22 PM
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:09:37 PM
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:17:32 PM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
super scout strikes again
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:17:55 PM
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:18:38 PM
Post by: nufc4eva on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:19:06 PM
Post by: jonny1403 on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:21:45 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:21:54 PM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
super scout strikes again
ahahaha
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:23:09 PM
🍾 Man of the Match, @NUFC’s Sean Longstaff
— Sky Sports Statto (@SkySportsStatto) February 11, 2019
71 touches
Completed 42/52 passes
9 recoveries
6 tackles
12.65km covered (0.8km more than any player) pic.twitter.com/sZ9GazJdIP
some boy, some adam's apple
Post by: toontownman on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:24:09 PM
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:25:26 PM
Post by: Disco on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:30:07 PM
Will score a screamer before the season is out if he keeps playing.
Post by: Decky on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:31:02 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:31:49 PM
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:32:13 PM
Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.
Will score a screamer before the season is out if he keeps playing.
Every goal he scored for Blackpool seemed to be a belter
Post by: covmag on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:45:54 PM
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:50:14 PM
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:51:26 PM
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:54:22 PM
Post by: 1892er on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:54:41 PM
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:00:20 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:02:12 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:13:17 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:13:59 PM
He really does remind me of carrick
Deffo did tonight.
We've got a player here.
Post by: Big Geordie on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:17:02 PM
Post by: FustinoSolano on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:18:30 PM
Post by: sugoinufc on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:18:02 AM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:27:43 AM
Post by: LV on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:37:22 AM
The way he breaks up play is brilliant, especially for a lad his age. Well deserved Motm tonight.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:40:24 AM
Him and Diame next game?
Nah. Was only 10 minutes but I felt we worse without Hayden when Diame came on.
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:57:38 AM
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 07:56:07 AM
Post by: Tyne81 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 09:27:09 AM
Will play for England within 2 years.
He will, looks made for international football to a tee. Just hope when we inevitably cash in on him he doesn't hop into the Man City/Chelsea reject bin.
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 09:31:42 AM
Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.
I noticed that too. Wasn't sure if it was his positioning or if the players had just been told to concentrate on working the wings. Would be mad if that was the case though because he's one of the only players confident enough to play a decent forward pass that isn't a long ball. We need to be getting him on the ball as much as possible.
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:25:20 AM
Post by: ujpest doza on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:27:19 AM
He really does remind me of carrickReminds me more of Matic
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:31:44 AM
Kante, Jorginho, Neves, Moutinho, Fernandinho, De bruyne, Silva etc
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:39:51 AM
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:24:39 AM
It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.
Aye, if a player gets to 21 without ever being anywhere near the first team you start to suspect the coaching staff just know they won't cut it.
If we don't see a player lighting up before they're 18, they might as well not exist. Nice to see Longstaff bucking the trend.
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:25:07 AM
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:29:17 AM
It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.
I'm more of the opinion that there are probably loads of lads in academies across the UK that don't get a look in that are more than capable of playing premiership football. It's not that UK academies are loads worse than Spanish ones, it that we never give our own a chance. We buy in players from abroad who have been given their chances in less high pressure leagues, paying the premium for not having to take a chance on them.
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:32:40 AM
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:38:03 AM
Post by: Odear on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:41:54 AM
Rafa has to trust the youth setup because new players coming through can’t always be because of an injury crisis.
On the flip side, we’re not a team with the luxury of seeing how a few young ins will do when thrown in.
Hayden has been a good partner for him in the middle, also did great last night too. Be harsh to drop him for Diame straight away.
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:47:34 AM
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
Post by: frankpingel on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:53:59 AM
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:56:53 AM
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.
Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?
At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.
Post by: khay on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:02:14 PM
He really does remind me of carrickReminds me more of Matic
Was thinking the same yesterday. First time I’ve had a good look of him.
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:02:44 PM
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:13:29 PM
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.
Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?
At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.
Why should Championship clubs take them when there are absolutely stacks of players in the Championship worthy of PL football that bigger clubs won't take a chance on? It's the same issue really, PL clubs prefer to shop abroad when the Championship is absolutely full of good young British players and usually the only way they ever get a go in the top flight is when their club gets promoted. The gap between the top flight and the Championship is much smaller than it was a few years ago.
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:54:53 PM
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:00:36 PM
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Youth_League
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:02:54 PM
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
Because he has scored, he has contributed. I know he's a bad player, but what are the alternatives. Throw Sorensen in? He might do well but I'd be very surprised, he most likely wouldn't get a kick. He needs to go to a football league club and learn how to play in that environment.
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:08:56 PM
On Longstaff, two or three times a game, the opposition will try to close him down and he just drifts past them with the ball into open space. That's quite a rare quality in a midfield anchorman - or at least an English one. Looking at who we've got, Dier looks like a defender who's a bit out of his comfort zone, and Henderson, good player that he is, doesn't have that particular ability.
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:10:02 PM
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Youth_League
See, f***ing mint idea.
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:15:05 PM
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.
It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team?
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
Because he has scored, he has contributed. I know he's a bad player, but what are the alternatives. Throw Sorensen in? He might do well but I'd be very surprised, he most likely wouldn't get a kick. He needs to go to a football league club and learn how to play in that environment.
Plenty of players have come through from reserve football straight into the premier league and succeeded. The striking position here at the moment is a very difficult one to play admittedly, but I don't see the harm in giving someone like Sorensen minutes ahead of Joselu. What's the point in having these backup players if we don't allow them the opportunity to sink or swim?
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:17:47 PM
we’re not a team with the luxury of seeing how a few young ins will do when thrown in
Said every team in the PL. The only time it's suitable to throw in an unknown prospect unless there's injuries would be for a team towards the end of the season that is safe from relegation and has too big a gap between the team above and below it for it not to matter whether they win or lose.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:35:47 PM
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:47:27 PM
He's been outstanding.
This guy would benefit hugely from another couple of years under Rafa's tutelage to fully blossom.
He'd probably be s**** under a PFM but under Rafa it's like his role has been completely drilled into him and he's sticking to it.
Love how calm on the ball he is. He nevers looks flusterered.
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 02:03:07 PM
Top banana this lad.
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 02:32:33 PM
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men. It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.
Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?
At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.
Why should Championship clubs take them when there are absolutely stacks of players in the Championship worthy of PL football that bigger clubs won't take a chance on? It's the same issue really, PL clubs prefer to shop abroad when the Championship is absolutely full of good young British players and usually the only way they ever get a go in the top flight is when their club gets promoted. The gap between the top flight and the Championship is much smaller than it was a few years ago.
The prospect of getting in on the ground floor on a young, English player with proper potential. I think most Champ teams would have snapped your hand off if you'd offered them a Ryan Sassegnon or Will Hughes type player with the option of buying them at a cut price if they do well or shipping them back if not. I think the harder sell would be convincing Prem teams to agree to part with them if they do well.
It's a daft idea though. We'll just have to make do with loaning the poor buggers to Motherwell and Carlisle and hoping they actually get on the pitch once or twice.
Post by: Paully on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 04:19:15 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 04:26:00 PM
I said after his first start that he reminds me of Carrick - fantastic prospect!
Aye, while not going overboard he has better long passes off either foot, so much potential there.
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 04:30:39 PM
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:17:57 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:32:16 PM
I really like the look of Barlaser too from when he's played before and he looked good in the FA Cup the other week. Would like to see him get games at some point.
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:38:09 PM
Post by: frankpingel on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:38:11 PM
I'd hope we use this to at least have some belief in trying them more often.Hopefully see Barlaser on Sky Friday vs sunderland.
I really like the look of Barlaser too from when he's played before and he looked good in the FA Cup the other week. Would like to see him get games at some point.
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:45:48 PM
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Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 08:08:04 PM
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 08:30:53 PM
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 08:31:42 PM
His development reminds me of Kane. Nobody expected them to make it in the Premier League, but decent coaching and taking their chances because of injury or poor form from other players has meant they have taken their opportunity.Kane the wrestler, aye?
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:34:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzM97A4WkAAwKa0.jpg:large)
Post by: Crayola Kid on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:40:16 PM
Reluctant to get a shirt with his name on the back because of the inescapable double entendre wind ups I'd expect to receive.
Love how two footed the lad is, rare for a young player to be so comfortable with both feet has that Carrick type composure to go with it too.Two foot Longstaff?
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 01:12:52 AM
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.
Same with The Windasses.
Post by: themanupstairs on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 06:00:44 AM
The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.
Same with The Windasses.
My neighbor is a Cockburn
Post by: Tsunami on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 06:06:29 AM
The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.
Same with The Windasses.
Wizards and Farters you’d imagine.
Post by: St1pe on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 03:25:51 PM
?s=21Loved this turn from @seanlongstaff97 #NUFC pic.twitter.com/xAIZXJ22k1
— Geordie Ahmed (@GeordieAhmed) February 12, 2019
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 03:47:54 PM
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 04:20:42 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 06:50:29 PM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I love reopening threads on Page one where people have been overly negative for no reason :lol:
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 07:26:17 PM
Shame Merino left. This guy and Merino would've made an interesting duo in CM in the long term.
feel like they are very much similar players - but hey ho, if it could work would be awesome.
Post by: Tribesman on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 07:36:21 PM
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I love reopening threads on Page one where people have been overly negative for no reason :lol:
Complete opposite of Jacob Murphy thread. :lol:
Post by: Kanji on Friday 15 February 2019, 02:38:29 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 15 February 2019, 02:41:32 PM
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Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:18:05 PM
I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.
With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.
Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.
Post by: Kanji on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:25:03 PM
Post by: covmag on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:48:39 PM
I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.
With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.
Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.
Huddersfield press so I’d like to see Longstaff and Ki play together but they won’t, he will stick with Hayden and Longstaff , he can’t afford slip ups, Rafa will grind this out.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 15 February 2019, 04:46:04 PM
I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.
With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.
Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.
Huddersfield press so I’d like to see Longstaff and Ki play together but they won’t, he will stick with Hayden and Longstaff , he can’t afford slip ups, Rafa will grind this out.
Aye I’d like to see Ki come in for Huddersfield and Burnley, he played a big role in the 2 home wins in a row against Bournemouth and Watford.
Having saw how the new man at Huddersfield approached the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal they are going to be very very open which should suit us. Arsenal played our 3-4-2-1 system against them too and did them a lot of damage down the sides with the wing backs and on the counter with quick transitions, so could be the absolute ideal match for Almiron to make his home debut too. Just glad we arn’t playing a Palace next who can actually defend I think Burnley will be the hard nut to crack.
Hoping to see Rafa go with Ki with Diame or Longstaff vs Huddersfield :thup:
Post by: Yorkie on Friday 15 February 2019, 04:52:25 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 15 February 2019, 05:14:53 PM
Post by: STM on Friday 15 February 2019, 05:43:07 PM
Dont mean to be rude to Dummett but fail to see what he can actually offer unless we return to 4 at the back
Away from home, he would be solid.
Post by: Conjo on Friday 15 February 2019, 05:57:44 PM
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Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 16 February 2019, 01:14:14 AM
They’re also the most athletic CMs we have and have allowe us to press higher up the pitch and to be more aggressive.
Shelvey would be the last of the midfield options based on performances this season.
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:52:10 AM
Reminds me of an old matty longstaff 👍
Isn’t Sean like four inches taller?
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:59:05 AM
Hayden and Longstaff have played well and should keep their shirts imo.
They’re also the most athletic CMs we have and have allowe us to press higher up the pitch and to be more aggressive.
Shelvey would be the last of the midfield options based on performances this season.
Hmm i dont think Rafa will be thinking that and neither am i, Shelvey would get another chance for me, he does need to step up though, he's been mediocre at best.
Longstaff and Shelvey for me.
Post by: Benwell Lad on Saturday 16 February 2019, 11:42:16 AM
They'll still be out when the others are all fit but shouldn't be too concerned, like our central defender strength in depth they'll all be needed over a season.
Just a shame we couldn't get ourselves into a decent position by January so they can all be used to cover a busy league and cup schedule.
Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 16 February 2019, 12:41:40 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 16 February 2019, 12:48:04 PM
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:13:41 PM
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:18:34 PM
Longstaff and Ki for me.
I’d like to see this, but expect Ki and Diame.
Post by: sbnufc on Thursday 21 February 2019, 06:30:37 PM
https://www.facebook.com/bbcnewcastle/videos/576181976191590/
Post by: aussiemag on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:34:59 PM
Post by: hakka on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:43:34 PM
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:44:08 PM
Post by: Anderson on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:47:08 PM
Better than Gerrard
Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:49:57 PM
AyeBetter than Iniesta
Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Post by: Billy Pilgrim on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:51:24 PM
Post by: Ridman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:53:58 PM
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:54:13 PM
Today should be all about Almiron who was very good, but it's all about this lad yet again. Faultless.
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:56:03 PM
Possibly.AyeBetter than Paul Arnison
Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:58:44 PM
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:58:51 PM
Hayden has done a superb job playing alongside him as well.
Post by: Zero on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:00:03 PM
Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:05:05 PM
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:08:24 PM
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:09:11 PM
Post by: Elric on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:11:26 PM
Best player on the pitch today. And I’m shocked at his development, he seems to be getting better every game! These sort of things don’t happen to us at Newcastle. I don’t know how to feel.
He'll have been sold before you can clarify your feelings, don't worry man ;)
Post by: Collage on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:16:48 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:17:37 PM
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:18:49 PM
Certainly premature for the senior team but will be nice to see him in the u21s. Shame woodman isn't getting the game time to warrant a call up too.
Also although it's the wrong place have to credit Hayden too who has built up a great partnership.
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:20:15 PM
MoTM for me today. He is just immense. Surely he cant keep this up? Wait he could actually get better than this :o
Certainly premature for the senior team but will be nice to see him in the u21s. Shame woodman isn't getting the game time to warrant a call up too.
Also although it's the wrong place have to credit Hayden too who has built up a great partnership.
Southgate will be monitoring his progress - no doubt about it.
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:21:25 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:23:45 PM
First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
This is such a horrendous comparision. Longstaff a much more natural footballer.
Post by: Rich on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:25:15 PM
Post by: hakka on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:26:53 PM
Wish he'd scored that curler
Would have been mint like.
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:28:20 PM
If that had gone in and rondon had converted that sitter he would be a national talking point this weekend. So close. Keep this form up and the national plaudits are a matter of time. Pundits are already on it.Wish he'd scored that curler
Would have been mint like.
Post by: Disco on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:29:36 PM
Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.
Disappointing if he f***ing despises disabled people like.
Post by: Collage on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:29:37 PM
We've got our midfield Dummett
:dowie:
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:30:35 PM
First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
This is such a horrendous comparision. Longstaff a much more natural footballer.
Yeah, weird sentence. Longstaff has all the attributes needed to be a successful PL midfielder, Dummett doesn't have all the attributes needed to be a successful PL full-back.
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:39:31 PM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:49:08 PM
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:00:23 PM
MoTM for me today. He is just immense.
Some of his one touch passes through the lines were superb.
Breaks things up so well too O0
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:10:28 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:11:08 PM
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:17:02 PM
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:25:37 PM
Post by: 1964 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:29:28 PM
Post by: magorific on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:31:12 PM
First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
Our midfield Dummett? You're this board's Joselu...
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:36:22 PM
First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.
Really wanted that shot to go in :(
Our midfield Dummett? You're this board's Joselu...
Ouch. :lol:
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:38:02 PM
He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.
Post by: tgarve on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:46:38 PM
Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.
He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.
Agree fully
Post by: Gallowgate End on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:48:25 PM
Wonder how much he is on. Sometimes when a young lad gets a big contract they switch off like Aarons, I think Longstaff is a bit more level headed.
Is Longstaff on a long contract already or?
Post by: STM on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:48:34 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:51:39 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:59:53 PM
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:00:47 PM
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:00:52 PM
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:02:02 PM
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.
Ah, fair enough, it didn't read that way earlier!
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:06:25 PM
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
That's what he is currently.
Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.
The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.
Ah, fair enough, it didn't read that way earlier!
I've purposely kept quiet on him mind. I love a local lad playing for the club and get far too emotionally attached to them only to turn s*** or f*** off breaking my heart in the process. :lol:
Post by: 54 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:07:00 PM
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:11:42 PM
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:12:45 PM
Dummett is a comfortable lower Prem full-back imo.
In a system with no attacking responsibilities.
Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:18:05 PM
Would make love to this Las if I had the chance
:serious:
Post by: covmag on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:20:09 PM
Post by: TRon on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:22:55 PM
Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.
He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.
He really does look like a seasoned Premier midfielder like. Rafa's not someone to play a young local lad out of sentiment, he's keeping his place because he's doing a great job week in week out.
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:24:14 PM
Post by: Odear on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:19:59 PM
Just can’t see Shelvey getting back in. He’s not mobile enough.
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:26:15 PM
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:35:49 PM
I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
Post by: Rich on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:51:29 PM
Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.
Disappointing if he f***ing despises disabled people like.
That didn’t start until he became Old Glenn Hoddle.
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:54:49 PM
100% agree with you there my squire.I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
Post by: SteveMc on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:10:47 PM
Post by: geordiedean on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:16:24 PM
I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
Shelvey will be binned in the summer and rightly so he's bang average. This lad has all the attributes he doesn't
He will turn into Rafas Geordie Stevie G if Rafa stays
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:31:20 PM
Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:32:42 PM
Post by: Anderson on Saturday 23 February 2019, 11:26:48 PM
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
Aye, but negates the need for a deep sitting playmaker.
Post by: Ginola on Saturday 23 February 2019, 11:47:41 PM
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 23 February 2019, 11:48:19 PM
He invites comparison with the greats, so I give you Colin Bell. (Ask your Dads)
Post by: LV on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:16:24 AM
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:40:33 AM
Post by: geordiedean on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:41:57 AM
The new Jamie McClen
If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:46:54 AM
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
This so called ability showed up like once or twice a game if you're lucky. We're way better off without him.
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:10:47 AM
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
This so called ability showed up like once or twice a game if you're lucky. We're way better off without him.
Agree I think the shelvey bus has left
Diame aswel back up from now on-
Nice to have some options though- bar rondon and dubs have options every area now
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 24 February 2019, 03:18:54 AM
Post by: Zero on Sunday 24 February 2019, 06:03:57 AM
Post by: CPL on Sunday 24 February 2019, 06:51:17 AM
Post by: themanupstairs on Sunday 24 February 2019, 07:04:51 AM
Hopefully we'll see him given licence to get forward more as every time he's anywhere near edge of the opponents' area something positive seems to happen for us.
He's been truly outstanding and worth the hype. Not surprising considering his talent.
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 24 February 2019, 09:27:37 AM
Sean Longstaff in line for first England U21 call-up after boss Aidy Boothroyd watches NUFC midfielder during another outstanding display in 2-0 win over Huddersfield https://t.co/9tdl1Rkjiu
— Craig Hope (@CraigHope_DM) February 23, 2019
Post by: HawK on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:08:18 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:16:46 AM
Sod the U21s, he should be in the full squad.
He's ready, but there's no need to rush him. I think under Southgate's set-up, joining up with the U21s will suit him perfectly.
Post by: mighty__mag on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:32:40 AM
Post by: morla84 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:38:40 AM
Post by: mickthemagpie on Sunday 24 February 2019, 11:14:00 AM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 24 February 2019, 11:41:26 AM
Needs a new chant imo
Aye, and not the ‘he’s one of our own’ one.
Post by: toon25 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 11:49:59 AM
Doesn’t put a foot wrong and works his bollocks off.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:00:11 PM
Needs a new chant imo
Aye, and not the ‘he’s one of our own’ one.
heard that on the stream yesterday, please no
Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:06:40 PM
Well, will be one day.
Post by: Gorilla on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:11:16 PM
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:13:29 PM
It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.
Yeap, I'm finding it strange why he wasn't given an opportunity a little earlier now. Guessing he's just stepped up to the level when he needed to.
Post by: Tribesman on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:26:40 PM
Post by: covmag on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:55:16 PM
It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.
This....
I thought bang average and will never make it, as ever Rafa knows, he is the modern midfielder personified.
Credit to his side kick Hayden mind.Some decent talent can’t even get in the match day squad now.
Post by: Sima on Sunday 24 February 2019, 02:42:33 PM
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 24 February 2019, 03:04:37 PM
Post by: Pata on Sunday 24 February 2019, 03:30:39 PM
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
Shelvey puts the team under enormous pressure when his every second touch is an attempted 50 yard Hollywood pass. They are great when they succeed but every time the pass doesn't come off, rest of the team have to work hard just to get the ball back. He has immense talent but I really hate his decision making.
Post by: M1tche on Sunday 24 February 2019, 04:15:01 PM
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Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 04:55:34 PM
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Post by: sbnufc on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:09:15 PM
Post by: Disco on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:11:45 PM
He's had 68 appearances over the past two seasons with Kilmarnock and Blackpool. Playing time matters.
:thup: uses his body relatively well given he’s a fairly whispish lad.
Post by: Danh1 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:16:00 PM
Needs a new chant imo
The SC were chanting “his name’s Sean Longstaff and he loves the Toon” yesterday like, reviving Joey Barton’s chant.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:21:01 PM
Post by: QuakesMag on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:24:15 PM
What’s wrong with a simple, ‘There’s only one Sean Longstaff’. It’s not like we use it for anyone else.
walking along
dragging his schlong
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:27:13 PM
The new Jamie McClen
If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy
think clarkie was decent but a tad overrated tbh. think watson, thompson and even elliot (before he left us the first time) were better.
Post by: Tsunami on Sunday 24 February 2019, 06:10:41 PM
The new Jamie McClen
If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy
think clarkie was decent but a tad overrated tbh. think watson, thompson and even elliot (before he left us the first time) were better.
Nah, Clark was better than all of those (though he played a different position to all of those) if he’d had any pace he’d have been top notch. A Sunday side I used to play for had our home games at the old training ground at Benwell for a while, Clark was playing for the young un’s on the pitch next to us at one of the games and I swear that our game stopped and watched as he went past about 5 opposition players with the minimum of fuss. He did really good jobs for the mackems and Fulham.
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 24 February 2019, 09:08:22 PM
Post by: HTT on Monday 25 February 2019, 02:39:55 AM
Talent aside which he has demonstrated enough of, it’s his football brain that stands out the most. On and off the ball he reads the game so well, is so composed and he often makes the right decision.
Although not an obvious athlete in terms of physical strength, power and pace, he has the right athletic physique in terms of height and build coupled with high energy and mobility levels. Energy and mobility that enable him to get up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and compete physically with others without exerting himself to the point of running himself imo the ground.
Best of all though he has a rare temprement for an English player on and off the ball, especially a midfielder, and that rarity is self composure. He doesn’t panic, rush, or chase after the ball or man, he doesn’t play the ball out aimlessly whether deep or under pressure, instead always looking to play the ball out to a team-mate, to feet short or long, or into space short or long, forwards, sideways or backwards. He doesn’t rush into tackles either and has this knack that beliesmhis age and experience of being in the right place at the right time.
He’s been compared to Carrick by a few and I myself have compared him to Jordan Henderson, but looking back through the years, he reminds of of David Batty, not the Batty of Blackburn fame, a tough tackling defensive midfielder limited on the ball, but the Batty we saw under Keegan who was all of that and much more.
Regardless, he will become a top top player if he keeps working hard and keeps his feet on the ground because he has it all, especially upstairs.
Post by: geordiedean on Monday 25 February 2019, 03:07:39 AM
Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 25 February 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Post by: Cookie1892 on Monday 25 February 2019, 09:14:34 AM
the lads only 21 so talking about his physique and stuff is a but strange for me, gerrard was a skinny whippet at 21 as well
im hoping he becomes a lampard/gerrard type
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 25 February 2019, 09:23:42 AM
Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box
“And this guy we call Giant”
“On account of him being 7’ 11” tall”
Post by: geordie john on Monday 25 February 2019, 01:27:22 PM
he looks a class act like.
the lads only 21 so talking about his physique and stuff is a but strange for me, gerrard was a skinny whippet at 21 as well
im hoping he becomes a lampard/gerrard type
Jees....wouldn't that be heaven? Scared to even think about it....
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 25 February 2019, 02:41:07 PM
Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box
Really? I thought it was because he looked like the Saw villain.
Post by: STM on Monday 25 February 2019, 04:19:10 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 25 February 2019, 05:05:53 PM
Post by: TooonDoom on Monday 25 February 2019, 05:41:06 PM
I genuinely used to think it was because he was a bit of a div in a sort of "Here son, this jigsaw will keep you entertained." kind of way.You were a bit of a jigsaw.
😉
Post by: frankpingel on Monday 25 February 2019, 06:55:17 PM
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Post by: Pilko on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:19:52 PM
Post by: CPL on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:36:02 PM
absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
Is there a link to this?
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:40:27 PM
Post by: Sean on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:43:34 PM
absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
Is there a link to this?
Not sure, I heard them while in the car. They were full of praise for the lad and rightly so, I think at one point they were saying he has to be in the England squad (a bit premature like but hey).
They were also speculating whether Rafa will stay next year.
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 08:56:30 PM
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Post by: La Parka on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 09:49:58 PM
Can't believe our luck getting the Michael Carrick regen come through our youth ranks.
Touted the next Michael Carrick. One of the best players of his generation.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:00:50 PM
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Post by: Wilson on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:07:58 PM
:clap:
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:11:56 PM
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Post by: Willow on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:24:50 PM
"I say it everyday, I am in such a lucky position to be where I am, scoring and feeling the atmosphere tops it off.
"We know it is still very close and a couple of results can change it. We know we can change it by winning and it is a lot nicer to look up the table rather than down.
"I had about 10 people here, to have them here watching is a great night for me and the team.
"I can’t put the feeling into words just pure emotion. The atmosphere is amazing."
Post by: 1892er on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:36:30 PM
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Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:39:04 PM
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Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:46:10 PM
North Shields.
Delish I lived in North Shields for a while. Gan on lad!
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:48:47 PM
Great finish too, delighted for him.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:50:02 PM
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Post by: madras on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:54:09 PM
(Keep his feet on the ground)
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:54:47 PM
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:56:21 PM
He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.
Too bad it's not a tournament summer - be lovely to get a "bolter into the England" squad story about him :thup:
Post by: bigfella on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:59:17 PM
There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
Yep, I noticed that, fair play to the lad, showed a lot of maturity to not jump in.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:03:08 PM
There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
Thought exactly the same..he is cold as ice.
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:18:01 PM
He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.
Too bad it's not a tournament summer - be lovely to get a "bolter into the England" squad story about him :thup:
U21 Championships this summer - he'll be brought through for that before stepping up.
Post by: FustinoSolano on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:21:31 PM
Took his goal really well, a very clever and subtle first touch to set it up perfectly for a crisp strike into the bottom corner.
It's easy to get carried away with young players coming through sometimes and get hopes up unrealistically high but it's difficult not to get excited by this lad, he doesn't only have the ability but he has the footballing nous and intelligence to go along with it, that's a rare quality in young footballers these days, plenty have ability, power, athleticism, pace etc but Longstaff reads the game extremely well and can therefore dictate and control play and contribute far more than most midfield players.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:25:10 PM
There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
Thought exactly the same..he is cold as ice.
Seems to have a great temperament about him :thup:
Looks the real deal :smitten:
Post by: M1tche on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:27:17 PM
Post by: Paullow on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:30:44 AM
absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
Is there a link to this?
https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1551110400/1551115800/
3 mins in
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:51:49 AM
Talk of England is great for the lad and his boss seems intent on keeping him out the limelight, we have “stumbled “ on a terrific talent in the modern game of playing......good luck to the lad.
He will be worth a few quid now :naughty:
Post by: Stottie on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 06:14:07 AM
Just a little theory, but I reckon our season turned when Shelvey went off injured in that Watford home game. Ki came on and started playing 10 yards further forward than Shelvey had been. Unlike Shelvey, this allowed Ki to hit shorter passes to feet. Since then, we've been playing much better football, even when Ki went off to the Asian Cup. Lejeune has also come back and we now have Lejeune and Schar serving as deep-lying distributors, the main responsibility that had fallen on Shelvey. This means the role of our center mids has changed and it is now one that Longstaff and Hayden have taken to with relish. Given the holistic approach Rafa takes, I think it is fair to assume that our midfield is now getting to do what Rafa wanted it to do all along. The plan was never to have a midfielder take it off Cieran Clark or Lascelles and ping it somewhere with no-one to collect a second ball or offer an option to a lone forward with the ball.
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 06:25:03 AM
Post by: GeordieDazzler on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 07:42:19 AM
On level 7 I sometimes mix him an Lejune up due to the boots and their silky touches/passing.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 07:52:01 AM
His style reminds me a little of Ki, good touch and moves the ball so well.
On level 7 I sometimes mix him an Lejune up due to the boots and their silky touches/passing.
i actually thought we could have done with Ki in at times yesterday (not instead of longstaff mind) as their midfield did a decent job of pressuring ours when the ball went into them often forcing them to pass back to schar/lejuene or horizontally to the wingbacks...ki has a very useful knack of being able to turn out of pressure and into space that would have opened the game up a bit more for us i feel
i mean you can't complain, just something i noticed
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 07:57:20 AM
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Post by: sportnet on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 10:56:40 AM
What a player this kid is going to be. Composure, stamina, anticipation and an eye for a pass. He’s got it all.
can pass with his left as well
Post by: James on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 10:59:01 AM
Post by: SiLvOR on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:11:59 PM
He doing great. He was understandably a little reserved in the first game or two, but now he's hitting so many confident forward passes. He also repeatedly wins the ball back high up the pitch. He's playing like he's been in the first team for years, not ten games.
Just a little theory, but I reckon our season turned when Shelvey went off injured in that Watford home game. Ki came on and started playing 10 yards further forward than Shelvey had been. Unlike Shelvey, this allowed Ki to hit shorter passes to feet. Since then, we've been playing much better football, even when Ki went off to the Asian Cup. Lejeune has also come back and we now have Lejeune and Schar serving as deep-lying distributors, the main responsibility that had fallen on Shelvey. This means the role of our center mids has changed and it is now one that Longstaff and Hayden have taken to with relish. Given the holistic approach Rafa takes, I think it is fair to assume that our midfield is now getting to do what Rafa wanted it to do all along. The plan was never to have a midfielder take it off Cieran Clark or Lascelles and ping it somewhere with no-one to collect a second ball or offer an option to a lone forward with the ball.
Nice theory, makes sense to me! Think this kid is an absolute gem, was so pleased for his goal yesterday.
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:18:40 PM
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:25:17 PM
Post by: Anderson on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:27:26 PM
The brimful of asha chant is great.
What replaces 'nutter in the middle'?
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:31:25 PM
There’s just something extra satisfying about the way this kid carries himself on the pitch. He’s so calm and his presence is massive. That finish was something you see a 20 goal striker would be proud of, settled down and lashed ruthlessly into the net. Reminded me of a Diego Costa goal from a few years ago.
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:36:51 PM
Stottie, what a terrific post man.
There’s just something extra satisfying about the way this kid carries himself on the pitch. He’s so calm and his presence is massive. That finish was something you see a 20 goal striker would be proud of, settled down and lashed ruthlessly into the net. Reminded me of a Diego Costa goal from a few years ago.
Agree with this. He looked almost frantic with excitement when he sensed the opportunity, but once he was in position it was a very composed finish. Seen a good few bright lights burn and fade but he just keeps defying that expectation. Getting better with each game.
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:55:05 PM
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Post by: Cronky on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:03:37 PM
He's also boosted the attack with his passing. He doesn't need a steadying touch on the ball to pass accurately and that makes a big difference.
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:07:22 PM
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:29:32 PM
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Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 02:39:35 PM
This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance
Yup. If it weren't for injuries he would never have gotten a chance here either. Too much money at stake for managers to dare giving untested players a chance. In his Burnley post match interview Rafa said as much, although alluded that he would eventually have gotten a chance anyway but it was progressed faster due to injuries but I'm not so confident that this is the truth as it would have depended on how we were doing. No way he would have got a chance if relegation was still a possibility.
Post by: jonny1403 on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 02:58:23 PM
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Longstaff's younger brother Matthew is also a footballer currently playing for Newcastle United. Their father David is a former Great Britain ice hockey player, featuring over 100 times for the national side, and is still active as player/coach for the Whitley Warriors.[8] Their father is also the cousin of former England international Alan Thompson. Longstaff's mother also participates in sports such as Netball where she strangled a 15 year old with a bib.
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 03:00:36 PM
This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance
Yup. If it weren't for injuries he would never have gotten a chance here either. Too much money at stake for managers to dare giving untested players a chance. In his Burnley post match interview Rafa said as much, although alluded that he would eventually have gotten a chance anyway but it was progressed faster due to injuries but I'm not so confident that this is the truth as it would have depended on how we were doing. No way he would have got a chance if relegation was still a possibility.
Wouldn’t be anywhere near the squad but for injuries
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 03:03:10 PM
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Post by: HTT on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 04:06:54 PM
I didn’t really think of Carrick until the comparison appeared in the media TBH. His style doesn’t really remind me of Carrick that much.
Reminds me more of a young Andy Cole!
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 04:16:16 PM
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Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:25:37 PM
Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:
It's slanderous. I've seen Longstaff pass it forward.
Post by: James on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:29:26 PM
I have been very impressed with Sean Longstaff, I have the feeling he could be the next Rob Lee
Did anyone get spot this classic reference or am I the only one who remembers HTT posts from what must be nearly 15 years ago :lol:
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:45:54 PM
Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:
It's slanderous. I've seen Longstaff pass it forward.
hahahah, its the way he moves, I agree though. Much more positive and attacking threat
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 06:09:12 PM
@tfNUFC @MsiDouglas @lee_ryder #NUFC pic.twitter.com/ol8GxAZwac
— Andy⚫️⚪️ (@El_Tibur0n) February 27, 2019
Post by: madras on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 11:49:32 PM
Got to wonder if Rafa would have used him if he wasn't forced ?
Post by: Smal on Thursday 28 February 2019, 12:17:47 AM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 28 February 2019, 01:20:04 AM
Hes nee Jack Colback
Thank f***.
Post by: covmag on Thursday 28 February 2019, 05:37:20 AM
I get the Carrick comparisons but only inn the coolness and tempo way. Reminds me a little of Woodgate defensively in that he just edges opposition out rather than blockbuster challenges.
Got to wonder if Rafa would have used him if he wasn't forced ?
Who cares, sometimes life throws a curve ball and it turns out great, this was it, you get a chance and boom you take it....the likes of Armstrong didn’t and Rooney did.(granted one had more ability than the other)
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 28 February 2019, 07:36:31 AM
Hes nee Jack Colback
Thank f***.
Hope this puts to bed the knock the local lads myth. Colback was a bell and utter s*** - Dummett is a nice lad and an athlete but has his limitations. In a larger squad he has a place. People love this lad and respect his attitude and application.
Post by: alijmitchell on Friday 1 March 2019, 01:18:19 AM
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 05:19:13 AM
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Post by: mickthemagpie on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:30:32 AM
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:39:47 AM
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:39:49 AM
The new owners will never sell him.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:41:55 AM
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?
Sancho will likely come back here or to someone like Real Madrid too in the next few years.
Post by: steve_69 on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:52:43 AM
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
In terms of their composure on the ball, their ability to make space for themselves under pressure and their efficiency with the ball, they are very similar. I can see where the comparisons are coming from even if their playing styles are different.
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:58:31 AM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:00:28 AM
Post by: Collage on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:01:30 AM
Post by: steve_69 on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:01:32 AM
I feel like we should calm down a bit.
First thing we've had to get excited about in years and you want us to calm down?! f*** that, i'm getting his face tattooed on my arse
Post by: Collage on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:02:55 AM
I feel like we should calm down a bit.
First thing we've had to get excited about in years and you want us to calm down?! f*** that, i'm getting his face tattooed on my arse
:lol:
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:05:08 AM
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Been watching athletics and so read that as 100 metres. He's long, but not that long!
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:06:11 AM
He's been a revelation, I just think there's no rush, he looks like he has what it takes though.
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:10:19 AM
We were short-staffed,
Now we're long-staffed
(To sit down, shut up/play up Pompey)
We trained him at John Spence
To batter your defence
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:20:00 AM
The brimful of asha one is canny imo, dont think I've heard that used for a chant before and I prefer originality to changing the words to something everyone's singing
Was used by us for Joey Barton wasn’t it? Nutter instead of Geordie though.
Post by: morla84 on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:25:33 AM
Just realised that and thought I'd gotten away with it 😔The brimful of asha one is canny imo, dont think I've heard that used for a chant before and I prefer originality to changing the words to something everyone's singing
Was used by us for Joey Barton wasn’t it? Nutter instead of Geordie though.
Post by: hakka on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:32:37 AM
I feel like we should calm down a bit.
:thup:
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:36:41 AM
I feel like we should calm down a bit.This. He's played 7 premier league games
Post by: Ian W on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:57:33 AM
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:20:16 AM
Post by: Ian W on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:20:56 AM
Post by: Conjo on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:36:16 AM
Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.
Post by: Sho'Time on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:37:16 AM
It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.
Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.
:thup:
Post by: triggs on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:40:43 AM
Post by: Cronky on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:41:54 AM
It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.
Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.
To be honest, he looks like a key player already. He's strengthened the defence and helped to give us a proper counter-attacking game. We're not just hoofing it forward.
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:46:52 AM
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?
Spurs and Man City will be holding out for £200M, Ashley will accept the first offer he gets.
Post by: arnonel on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:55:30 AM
Post by: morla84 on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:59:06 AM
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 1 March 2019, 11:35:35 AM
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?
The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.
Post by: triggs on Friday 1 March 2019, 11:39:40 AM
Post by: 54 on Friday 1 March 2019, 12:03:32 PM
United’s Sean Longstaff has been nominated for the @premierleague's Player of the Month award for February!
— Newcastle United FC (@NUFC) March 1, 2019
👉🏽 https://t.co/FSvDggUjOh #NUFC pic.twitter.com/qwobjk7TLr
Post by: morla84 on Friday 1 March 2019, 12:04:31 PM
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Post by: sbnufc on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:21:07 PM
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:24:20 PM
Had to go and ruin a good post. :lol:
The new owners will never sell him.
was tongue in cheek tbf :lol:
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:27:21 PM
His song selection is pretty rubbish like, we need to work on it.
We were short-staffed,
Now we're long-staffed
(To sit down, shut up/play up Pompey)
We trained him at John Spence
To batter your defence
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
I need some Longstaff baby this evenin
I want some Longstaff baby tonight
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:28:49 PM
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?
The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.
That's not what I meant. I just think he's more attack minded than Carrick was. Not suggesting he's better or even close to him yet. If he were to reach that level though, he would be scoring and assisting more simply because he's a more attack minded player.
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:04:34 PM
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/
What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
Post by: Fugazi on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:08:41 PM
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Post by: Conjo on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:30:47 PM
Post by: Sho'Time on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:43:30 PM
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/
What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
:lol:
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:46:52 PM
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/
What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
Reminds me of David Batty in that pic.
Post by: Tsunami on Friday 1 March 2019, 07:20:31 PM
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/
We need to get voting on this.
Post by: Willow on Friday 1 March 2019, 07:29:06 PM
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What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
:lol:
Post by: Skeletor on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:16:07 PM
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/
What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.
(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)
Surprised he's only 63cm.
"Hey John can you do the stats for Newcastle's youth players"
"Awww man....hmmm I have an idea"
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lUJ1YoZB1lHVPG/giphy.gif)
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:17:00 AM
I think he looks more like a Frank Lampard type of player.Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?
The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.
That's not what I meant. I just think he's more attack minded than Carrick was. Not suggesting he's better or even close to him yet. If he were to reach that level though, he would be scoring and assisting more simply because he's a more attack minded player.
Calm on the ball, good decisions, good passer and a good shot.
Post by: Kevo on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:27:59 AM
I'd say it is worth getting carried away. To see a footballer who has virtually no experience of the top flight dominate some of the best footballers in the league if not the world is a rare sight. He stood out like a sore thumb against Huddersfield and Burnley, streets ahead of what they have. He oozes class and his composure is something I haven't seen for Newcastle for a very, very long time. The way he just pushes players off the ball and gets out of sticky situations then puts us on the front foot is beautiful.
:coolsmiley:
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:40:32 AM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:44:47 AM
Post by: BergenMagpie on Saturday 2 March 2019, 10:40:14 AM
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/
We need to get voting on this.
If there wouldnt be any Liverpool players available hed might have a shot. Liverpool fans are trying so hard to be passionate that it becomes embarrassing for everyone involved. Like when they voted Salahs goal against Everton to be goal of the year, probably as they couldnt stand the idea of Bales goal against them in the CL final getting any more recognition
Post by: St1pe on Saturday 2 March 2019, 01:30:37 PM
It’s definitely Longstaff.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 2 March 2019, 01:49:10 PM
I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?
Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.
Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.
This lad knew.
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Saturday 2 March 2019, 07:48:22 PM
?s=21Sean Longstaff leaving the ground on crutches 😕#nufc
— Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder) March 2, 2019
Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 2 March 2019, 07:52:23 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 07:54:55 PM
His range of passing is really excellent. And he can run a bit. Defensively aware.
did well after a dodgy start on the ball i thought, which was encouraging
people comparing him to rice pre-game...now i've seen more of rice i don't know why as longstaff seems much better on the ball and rice much better defensively from limited viewing
Post by: ujpest doza on Saturday 2 March 2019, 08:34:58 PM
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 2 March 2019, 08:57:41 PM
I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.
Agreed. I honestly thought the ref was gonna book Snodgrass.
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:01:38 PM
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:17:19 PM
Jonjo hiding the instruments what done the deed.?s=21Sean Longstaff leaving the ground on crutches 😕#nufc
— Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder) March 2, 2019
Post by: Odear on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:20:40 PM
Didn’t have a great half today. West Ham just swarmed us out the wings so it was impossible to keep the ball.
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 2 March 2019, 11:00:56 PM
Post by: NUFC on Saturday 2 March 2019, 11:38:25 PM
Post by: covmag on Sunday 3 March 2019, 09:56:24 AM
Will be like a new signing when he’s back
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:49:39 AM
I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.
Agreed. I honestly thought the ref was gonna book Snodgrass.
It was a 50/50 at best, they both did the same thing. Yellow was very harsh.
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:58:57 AM
Thought he was lucky to only get a yellow today, have seen other refs go red due to the speed he went into that tackle
I've watched the replay and even in slomo it's difficult to see what happens, because it's so fast. So I wouldn't have been surprised by a red. But if you look at the shape of Longstaffs legs just before the tackle, it was perfectly legit.
Post by: Bimpy474 on Sunday 3 March 2019, 11:56:54 AM
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 3 March 2019, 02:54:56 PM
West Ham played the referee well yesterday, but the referee wanted to be played by them. Any sort of contact or even if it looked like we were going to make contact then they went down and the referee was giving it.
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 3 March 2019, 06:48:38 PM
Post by: prefabtoon on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:07:33 PM
He was probably told to get something on longstaff from the start.
They never change west ham dirty bast***
Post by: HTT on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:25:50 PM
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:47:31 PM
Post by: The College Dropout on Monday 4 March 2019, 10:24:28 AM
Post by: Kanji on Monday 4 March 2019, 12:33:31 PM
Post by: toon25 on Monday 4 March 2019, 09:32:59 PM
Bloody Snodgrass did a job on longstaff so called professionals should be banned from playing.
He was probably told to get something on longstaff from the start.
They never change west ham dirty bast***
He’s a horrible c***, Snodgrass.
Post by: Paully on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:05:22 AM
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:28:45 AM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:35:17 AM
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:52:36 AM
Shame, but hope he concentrates on being 100% for next season. There's f*** all to play for this season.
Tell that to the guy who might be missing out on an England place because of injury
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 12:34:57 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 04:54:48 PM
Of course. We can't have nice things.
:lol: It really is like that though innit?
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 05:56:23 PM
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 06:16:29 PM
I’ve heard from a good source that it looks like he’s out for the season and it could be ligament damage FFSTypical.
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 08:58:19 PM
?s=20Sean Longstaff is scheduled to see a knee specialist on Wednesday after a scan revealed the 21-year-old had damaged his posterior cruciate ligament in a challenge with Robert Snodgrass. #NUFC
— Ben Dinnery (@BenDinnery) March 5, 2019
s***.
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 09:20:15 PM
Next season then. Hope Rafa sends him to the same specialist that helped Lejeune.?s=20Sean Longstaff is scheduled to see a knee specialist on Wednesday after a scan revealed the 21-year-old had damaged his posterior cruciate ligament in a challenge with Robert Snodgrass. #NUFC
— Ben Dinnery (@BenDinnery) March 5, 2019
s***.
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 09:49:26 PM
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 09:56:55 PM
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 10:33:41 PM
Seems a decision will be made based on what the specialist suggests.
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:47:54 PM
Of course. We can't have nice things.
:lol: It really is like that though innit?
It is. :jesuswept:
There's been very few extremely bright lights during the last 10 dark years for me (if we go beyond a couple of results and a handful of decent players who has used us a stepping stone to keep me going):
1. Carroll - Sold at the first and best opportunity
2. Ben Arfa - Got his leg snapped in half and neglected by a turd manager after Houghton was replaced.
3. Now it's Longstaff. Wait for a new manager to come in and never use him properly ever again.
4. Rafa Benitez - Just waiting for the inevitable this summer
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:08:53 AM
BREAKING: #NUFC’a Sean Longstaff is out for four months with a knee injury.
— talkSPORT (@talkSPORT) March 7, 2019
📻 Listen → https://t.co/nOCybh8ExD pic.twitter.com/L3WMhH9tW9
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:11:28 AM
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:27:04 AM
Post by: Anderson on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:30:22 AM
Post by: covmag on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:36:34 AM
Post by: thenige on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:37:28 AM
Post by: STM on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:43:24 AM
Post by: 54 on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:48:48 AM
Longstaff has suffered a slight ligament tear. But could be back in light training as early as next month. #nufc correctly taking precautions.
— Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder) March 7, 2019
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:52:58 AM
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:54:42 AM
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:10:05 AM
Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger. O0
This can never be classed as a blessing like
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:16:19 AM
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:17:20 AM
Post by: STM on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:20:05 AM
Played his last game for Rafa
Is there any need? :lol:
Joeyt brightening up everyone's day.
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:39:03 AM
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:42:54 AM
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:53:56 AM
Aye Snodgrass doesn't have a history of getting bad injuries
What point are you trying to make?
Post by: covmag on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:56:06 AM
Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger. O0
This can never be classed as a blessing like
Maybe wrong choice of word but burn out quickly could have happened, he will comeback 1st game of season strong and hungry.
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:11:17 AM
Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on
Are you saying that you think Snodgrass injured Sean on purpose ?
Post by: St1pe on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:11:36 AM
Fingers crossed he recovers well and earns his place back next season.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:20:43 AM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:21:21 AM
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 7 March 2019, 12:10:01 PM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 7 March 2019, 12:50:32 PM
Why the hell does these things never happen to the players that we're not that fussed about? :lol:
Because the likes of Colback and Joselu never exert themselves enough to be a in dangerous situation like that. Ginger Jack would have bottled the tackle and let Snodgrass take control.
Post by: HTT on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:13:07 PM
Post by: The College Dropout on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:30:09 PM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:31:16 PM
Reminds me of a young Darren Anderton
:lol::lol:
Post by: Beren on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:36:16 PM
Post by: frankpingel on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:40:12 PM
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 7 March 2019, 02:39:59 PM
Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on
Are you saying that you think Snodgrass injured Sean on purpose ?
No, I'm saying in a 50/50 challenge the young local lad* who plays for Newcastle gets hurt, loses momentum in his breakthrough season, and the elder midfielder who plays for a club I couldn't care about continues on.
*who happens to be nominated for PL player of month, getting looks for England, scored his first PL goal at home match prior, was bossing matches, etc.
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 7 March 2019, 04:56:47 PM
Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger. O0
This can never be classed as a blessing like
Maybe wrong choice of word but burn out quickly could have happened, he will comeback 1st game of season strong and hungry.
He only came into the team in January and he's 21, I doubt any kind of burn out would have occurred, I imagine he'll have just got stronger.
Post by: Collage on Thursday 7 March 2019, 05:46:35 PM
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Thursday 7 March 2019, 05:47:32 PM
Hopefully he'll be back raring to go for pre-season and even stronger for the start of next season.
Post by: mouldy_uk on Thursday 7 March 2019, 08:30:24 PM
Post by: La Parka on Thursday 7 March 2019, 08:36:06 PM
Post by: duo on Saturday 9 March 2019, 09:57:44 AM
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 9 March 2019, 12:49:06 PM
He's been key to making the formation work. Wonder if Rafa will change the formation now as for me Diame isn't a like for like - gutting
Wouldn't say I agree with that. He's just been the fairly typical centre-mid all-rounder you see in virtually all formations. He'll be a loss, because he's played well, but probably the most 'expendable' cos we've got natural replacements of a similar standard. Ki's the most obvious but it'll probably be Diame, which is fine, cos there'll be a physical scrap in the middle today.
Gonna be tough, everyone will have to be on their game.
Post by: papo on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 12:38:33 PM
Wonder if Sean didn't get injured would he get one now? Or is it just the hype around Rice?
Post by: Lenny on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 12:53:34 PM
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 04:13:52 PM
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 07:01:16 PM
Probably Rice would have shaded it this time, early days though. Henderson, Dier and Delph are all fairly pointless.
Totally agree with that.
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 07:55:38 PM
Post by: LV on Thursday 14 March 2019, 08:28:10 AM
Always liked Rice - Cannonball was a cracking tune
She had a lovely bum too
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 6 April 2019, 05:25:31 PM
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 6 April 2019, 07:39:04 PM
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 6 April 2019, 09:30:37 PM
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 6 April 2019, 09:50:46 PM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sean-longstaff-injury-newcastle-united-16077651
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 6 April 2019, 11:58:08 PM
He's not coming back this season.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sean-longstaff-injury-newcastle-united-16077651
Wouldn’t make sense to bring him back now unless he were 100%. Keep him on ice and get him ready for the start of next season.
Post by: La Parka on Sunday 7 April 2019, 08:02:11 AM
Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 7 April 2019, 04:25:54 PM
We went to s*** without him.
Correct. He’s our best midfielder. Thanks Mike.
Post by: toon25 on Sunday 7 April 2019, 06:19:52 PM
Post by: Away Toon on Sunday 7 April 2019, 06:22:24 PM
Post by: chopey on Sunday 7 April 2019, 06:30:16 PM
His emergence is the only redeeming thing in another miserable s*** fight of a wasted season, and if we hadn't had injuries I'm not sure Rafa would have ever picked him.
Aye, we exist as a team to purely survive in the league, I will not pay £600 for the privilege anymore, which means the Liverpool game is my last for a long time.
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 7 April 2019, 08:39:44 PM
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 7 April 2019, 11:30:27 PM
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 7 April 2019, 11:34:58 PM
How did we get to a situation where we have five centre midfielders with about 200 caps between them, and we seem lost without the one who has played less than ten premier league matches?
Because the other ones are average at best.
Post by: Benwell Lad on Monday 8 April 2019, 09:17:38 AM
Had he stayed fit I think we’d be safe by now. IMO.
If Kenedy had struck his penalty properly against Cardiff, rather than f***ing about, we'd be safe now.
Fine margins :)
Post by: Kanji on Monday 8 April 2019, 12:29:40 PM
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 8 April 2019, 01:18:42 PM
Post by: Conjo on Monday 8 April 2019, 01:40:12 PM
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 8 April 2019, 03:38:48 PM
Post by: Ian W on Monday 8 April 2019, 04:23:53 PM
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 8 April 2019, 05:18:06 PM
I mean, he can rate Longstaff and also prefer a more experienced player in most games. They aren't mutually exclusive. If a manager likes a young player he doesn't necessarily chuck them straight in every game.👍
That’s it like. Also, i think Rafa likes to show his more senior players a good amount of respect and doesn’t just dump them for a rookie if they’ve had a couple of bad games. Players will appreciate things like that i’d imagine.
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 09:04:12 AM
While senior players might appreciate being selected based on seniority, it will be equally frustrating for younger players who see every day in training that they are on par or better than their peers and not get an opportunity. Key is a balance between the two, but in this age of top league football, nurturing unproven talent is a risk the vast majority of managers, Rafa included, are not prepared to take unless it is blatantly obvious that they have a special player on their hands.
Post by: James on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 11:53:08 AM
We can never have a youngster who is completely guaranteed a certain number of games, they have to take the opportunities that are afforded.
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 05:58:02 PM
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 06:05:00 PM
I think it's pretty clear from Rafas choices and interviews about Longstaff that if we hadn't had injuries he would still not been given more than a few minutes at the tail end of games where his introduction would have little to no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe he would get a chance once PL status had been confirmed. It doesn't matter if he rates Longstaff or not as long as he doesn't give him an opportunity.
While senior players might appreciate being selected based on seniority, it will be equally frustrating for younger players who see every day in training that they are on par or better than their peers and not get an opportunity. Key is a balance between the two, but in this age of top league football, nurturing unproven talent is a risk the vast majority of managers, Rafa included, are not prepared to take unless it is blatantly obvious that they have a special player on their hands.
Are you suggesting Rafa’s handling of Longstaff was wrong? I’d say judging by the lad’s performances he got it bang on. Yes i i would’ve been great if he’d come into the side earlier and played brilliantly but you can’t guarantee that would’ve happened. Longstaff came into the side without a senior player breathing down his neck and appeared to play with a freedom that he might not have had in a different situation.
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 06:43:18 PM
It's not meant as critisism of Rafa as much as it is for player development in general these days. Too much on the line for managers (especially the calulated ones such as Rafa) to gamble on someone unproven.
Post by: Andymc1 on Wednesday 10 April 2019, 01:25:26 AM
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Wednesday 10 April 2019, 05:36:09 AM
He didn't get it bang on because it wasn't planned. Rafa didn't really do anything wrong, but you can't say he did something good either. He didnt have anyone else to throw in so -had- to rely on a youth player. I am very certain that if we had a fringe senior player fit to play he would have gotten the nod over Longstaff at the time.
It's not meant as critisism of Rafa as much as it is for player development in general these days. Too much on the line for managers (especially the calulated ones such as Rafa) to gamble on someone unproven.
You mean someone like Saivet or Colback? Both players with tons more experience but got sent out on loan instead of Longstaff, even though Longstaff approached Rafa asking for a loan move.
I agree with your 2nd paragraph about youth players in general, i just don’t think it particularly applies in this case as it’s fairly obvious Rafa knew there was a good chance he would be ready at some point this season.
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 11 April 2019, 12:19:57 PM
why does it matter if he stumbled upon him or not? when he finally was called upon he looked one of our best CMs on the books.
He didn't. Longstaff featured in pre-season and Rafa managed him excellently having realised his potential (probably from last season too) by giving him the odd appearance here and there - hence why he then slotted into the side seamlessly. IMO, Rafa is also to be credited there.
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 12:49:56 PM
After that he was out of the squad the next game, and was only put in again because of injuries/internationals not being available.
Benitez said after the Burnley match that Longstaff was lucky because he got his chance "sooner rather than later because of injuries". To me that indicates that he was not in the plans to be used until there was nothing left to fight over in the league - which may never have been the case if we were still in a relegation fight.
Credit to Longstaff for taking his chance, and credit to Benitez for keeping him in the side when the easy choice many other managers would have made was to give the spot back to more experienced players. To give Benitez credit for giving Longstaff an opportunity however I don't see how you can justify.
Post by: Zero on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:00:29 PM
What Rafa should be credited is his instructions given to Sean which helps him to settle down ASAP. However in terms of “planning for development”, no, I am with Conjo.
Post by: Rich on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:13:10 PM
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:14:04 PM
Post by: Rich on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:14:30 PM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:16:42 PM
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:24:10 PM
Actively stopped him going back on loan and moved him to train with the first team, meaning when an opportunity came he was primed and ready for it.
You could argue that actively stopping him going back on loan, in the event that his opportunity didn't come, was also a gamble and it could just as well have been counter productive to his development.
Rafa is irreplaceable for us at the moment. Rafa does enough good that deserves praise. He doesn't need credit for stuff that turned out well down to coincidence and a good player.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:31:57 PM
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:35:41 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:46:13 PM
If you want examples of other players - Lascelles, Dummett, Diame, Hayden, Perez, Rondon have all improved immeasurably under Rafa.
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:08:06 PM
Lascelles - Was a young player that got a chance due to injuries/suspesions similar to Longstaff
Dummett - Already a first team player
Diame - Bought by Benitez
Hayden - Bought by Benitez
Perez - Already a first team player
Rondon - Loaned by Benitez
I fail to see how Benitez has done anything more than getting lucky that Longstaff took his chance when it coincidentally presented itself.
I'm not saying Benitez was unaware of Longstaff, as evidenced by him being on the bench for a few matches before he was subbed in at the end of December against Liverpool, but it is clear that he didn't think he was good enough to start, and was prioritized a head of others on the bench as well.
I agree that Benitez is a good coach that improves/gets the best out of his players, that's not my point at all and not what I'm contesting.
Post by: Zero on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:14:00 PM
Whilst many people here believe it’s the latter, most of my Liverpool friends hold the view that it should be former.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:20:51 PM
Maybe I don't understand the point you're trying to make, so apologies up front if that's the case, but:
Lascelles - Was a young player that got a chance due to injuries/suspesions similar to Longstaff
Dummett - Already a first team player
Diame - Bought by Benitez
Hayden - Bought by Benitez
Perez - Already a first team player
Rondon - Loaned by Benitez
I fail to see how Benitez has done anything more than getting lucky that Longstaff took his chance when it coincidentally presented itself.
I'm not saying Benitez was unaware of Longstaff, as evidenced by him being on the bench for a few matches before he was subbed in at the end of December against Liverpool, but it is clear that he didn't think he was good enough to start, and was prioritized a head of others on the bench as well.
I agree that Benitez is a good coach that improves/gets the best out of his players, that's not my point at all and not what I'm contesting.
You could just as easily argue that it was only a coincidence that other players were out at the same time as Longstaff was ready if you're going down the speculative route. Particularly as the only evidence we have is that Rafa had brought him into the first team when there were still other experienced midfielders available.
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:22:57 PM
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:26:39 PM
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:49:14 PM
Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.
Post by: nemtizz on Thursday 11 April 2019, 04:00:20 PM
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 04:50:57 PM
Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.
Longstaff was lucky to get a chance, and Rafa got lucky that Longstaff turned out to be our best central midfielder. Many talents have emerged due to luck, and many talents have been squandered due to bad luck.
If Rafa knew that he was our best midfielder, surely he'd be playing earlier same way as f.ex Almiron went straight into the side when he arrived.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 11 April 2019, 04:54:57 PM
Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?
As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.
Longstaff was lucky to get a chance, and Rafa got lucky that Longstaff turned out to be our best central midfielder. Many talents have emerged due to luck, and many talents have been squandered due to bad luck.
If Rafa knew that he was our best midfielder, surely he'd be playing earlier same way as f.ex Almiron went straight into the side when he arrived.
I don't think he's our best midfielder (not based on 9 games anyway), so I'm not sure where to go from here :lol:
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 05:05:56 PM
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Post by: Paully on Monday 29 April 2019, 02:56:48 PM
https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/a-great-experience-sean-longstaff-watches-magpies-game-with-fans-in-canada
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 29 April 2019, 03:06:32 PM
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Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 1 May 2019, 07:03:05 PM
Please come back better and hungrier and claim the midfield spot as yours next season. Only got to see 2-3 games where he played this season, but looks like he has the tools and seemingly the attitude to become something really special for this club.
100%. He was basically one of our best players when he had that run in the team, and think we'd be a few places higher up the table had he stayed fit. Also f*** Snodgrass man!
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:37:06 AM
Manchester United are looking at Newcastle’s Sean Longstaff. The 21-year-old has 3 years left on his current NUFC contract.
— Keith Downie (@SkySports_Keith) May 17, 2019
Post by: LV on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:38:42 AM
Manchester United are looking at Newcastle’s Sean Longstaff. The 21-year-old has 3 years left on his current NUFC contract.
— Keith Downie (@SkySports_Keith) May 17, 2019
Horseshit
Post by: chopey on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:40:27 AM
Manchester United are looking at Newcastle’s Sean Longstaff. The 21-year-old has 3 years left on his current NUFC contract.
— Keith Downie (@SkySports_Keith) May 17, 2019
New contract incoming..........
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:41:19 AM
Player contract renewals are postponed until Rafa’s situation is clear, including Longstaff’s. SSN just trying to make a story out of it.
Post by: TBG on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:43:39 AM
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Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:52:26 AM
Welcome back, Jack!
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:04:24 AM
I could see them going for him tbh
same here, solksjaer copying fergie style getting young players from PL clubs before they get mint
they could do with rice as well probably but the comparisons are lazy they're f*** all alike...longstaff more like a pobga replacement on the ball who will graft as well
hope he stays forever with rafa, goes without saying
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:04:47 AM
I could see them going for him tbh
Aye wouldn’t be surprised if they had Carrick watch him.
If they scouted both Rice and Longstaff I would go for Longstaff too far better all round skill set.
Would prefer them to go for media perception though :'(
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:06:31 AM
If they scouted both Rice and Longstaff I would go for Longstaff too far better all round skill set.
rice and longstaff would be an outstanding midfield pair imo
Post by: John P on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:08:59 AM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:09:08 AM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:12:05 AM
I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
if rafa f***s off i'd like to think he'd do the same for the good of his career, whoever the next pardew is could see him disappear from existence
Post by: Wilson on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:12:28 AM
Post by: John P on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:13:18 AM
I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
if rafa f***s off i'd like to think he'd do the same for the good of his career, whoever the next pardew is could see him disappear from existence
Aye, this is on the assumption that Rafa might stay. If Rafa goes I wouldn't begrudge anyone wanting to leave tbh.
Post by: Minhosa on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:24:20 AM
Carrick link being no coincidence it seems.
I hate to say it, but this has Carroll written all over it, in terms of huge profit for absolutely minimal investment. If they offered north of £20m Mike would get the chopper fired up within 3 milliseconds.
Post by: Heake on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:34:35 AM
I can see them wanting him 100%. He's exactly what they need imho.
Carrick link being no coincidence it seems.
I hate to say it, but this has Carroll written all over it, in terms of huge profit for absolutely minimal investment. If they offered north of £20m Mike would get the chopper fired up within 3 milliseconds.
This.
Fat blokes denim baggies will be flapping like f*** when he gets wind of it
Post by: Andymc1 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:46:21 AM
I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
:lol: See: Carroll, A. Hate to break it to you but there's absolutely no loyalty in the game.
Post by: James on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:56:32 AM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 17 May 2019, 12:00:57 PM
Post by: LV on Friday 17 May 2019, 12:22:57 PM
Post by: Ikon on Friday 17 May 2019, 12:40:26 PM
Post by: Dokko on Friday 17 May 2019, 01:23:25 PM
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Friday 17 May 2019, 01:58:34 PM
Post by: triggs on Friday 17 May 2019, 02:01:31 PM
We need to put a massive release clause in his contract. Something north of £100m. That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.Or just not put one in at all
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 17 May 2019, 02:02:51 PM
It would lead them to sing about another Geordie for 50 years :lol:
Post by: nufcjb on Friday 17 May 2019, 02:03:16 PM
We need to put a massive release clause in his contract. Something north of £100m. That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.Naahh. Would probably just get £20m for signings and another £10m for wages to cover the contract period of the signings. The rest of the money is Fat Mike's.
Post by: Sean on Friday 17 May 2019, 05:03:29 PM
It's clearly planted on our side so we can say "Well we didn't buy anyone but we did manage to hold onto Longstaff so it's a good window."
This. Its just so f***ing transparent at this point too :lol:
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 17 May 2019, 07:15:27 PM
Anyone else bored of the summer break yet?
Yep.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 17 May 2019, 07:21:46 PM
Post by: OCK on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:34:00 PM
So that's every midfielder other than Ki going.
Welcome back, Jack!
Don't call it a Colback
I've been here for years
I'm rocking my peers
Puttin' suckers in fear
Makin' the tears rain down like a monsoon
Post by: taxfree on Saturday 18 May 2019, 05:26:56 AM
Post by: covmag on Saturday 18 May 2019, 06:44:47 AM
This lad included
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 18 May 2019, 08:02:18 AM
From Longstaff's point of view, there's no point in him leaving now in order to be a squad player at Man U or Spurs. Those clubs are trying to grab him, from the long-term viewpoint.
But it looks like we've only got a year or two to convince him that his career can kick on by staying put.
Post by: 1964 on Saturday 18 May 2019, 08:07:05 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 19 May 2019, 09:39:44 AM
It's heartening to know that our high opinion of his lad is justified, with these top 6 clubs beginning to circle.
From Longstaff's point of view, there's no point in him leaving now in order to be a squad player at Man U or Spurs. Those clubs are trying to grab him, from the long-term viewpoint.
But it looks like we've only got a year or two to convince him that his career can kick on by staying put.
If Rafa leaves he'll be better fighting for a 1st team spot at somebody like them, with the luxury of protecting him from over-exposure, than staying here and taking responsibility for keeping us at 17th.
A move to Man U would be very similar to Carrick's move to Spurs, I don't think he ever regretted that.
Post by: Greg on Sunday 19 May 2019, 09:45:13 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 19 May 2019, 11:39:28 AM
It would be nothing like Carrick to Spurs, Carrick had played four full seasons and over 150 games at West Ham at left after a season in the second tier.
I'm speaking about the decision to be made, in relation to his future. I did think the first paragraph was enough to clarify, but just in case I quoted the exact comment which I was replying to.
Post by: Greg on Sunday 19 May 2019, 12:04:30 PM
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 19 May 2019, 03:34:24 PM
I still don't think that it is particularly similar decision, Carrick was established and undoubtedly ready to step up. Longstaff has played fewer than 15 games for us. As great as he was in that short spell this season, he's still got a lot to do here to fully establish himself. I think he'll be fine as he seems so composed and calm but he's still at a fundamentally different point in his career than Carrick was when he went to Spurs and the decision he may or may not have to make is therefore fundamentally different.
Established or not, the question is whether Longstaff is ready to step up. And I have no doubt he'll do fine, under Rafa, who will develop him properly, but I was talking about if Rafa left. We'd likely get some halfwit who expects Longstaff to dominate midfield for 38 games, in a team battling relegation, simply based on the fact that Man U waned him, so he must be quality.
Post by: sbnufc on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 12:49:19 AM
?s=19#MUFC set to bid for
— NUFC 360 (@NUFC360) May 21, 2019
Longstaff in the next 48 hours... #nufc https://t.co/2hsOsllJdm
Post by: LV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:01:03 AM
?s=19#MUFC set to bid for
— NUFC 360 (@NUFC360) May 21, 2019
Longstaff in the next 48 hours... #nufc https://t.co/2hsOsllJdm
Absolute bullshit
Post by: Stottie on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:09:35 AM
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:17:38 AM
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:36:46 AM
For us to sell it would take more than the Carroll fee.
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:52:37 AM
Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:43:56 AM
I'd sell him, Rafa has made Diame, Hayden and Longstaff now look really good in that position. I'm confident Rafa can make any average centre half or centre mid look like a 20m+ player.
Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.
:lol:
Post by: Stottie on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:02:25 AM
Love the Hughes comment.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:04:49 AM
Post by: STM on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:10:48 AM
His centre halves will always look good as there is 2 centre mids sitting in front and the full backs aren't 25 yards up the pitch.
On the other hand, Rafa's attacking players sometimes seem isolated.
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:23:40 AM
That’s why I think it’s legit, especially considering West Ham is asking 60m for Rice
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 10:30:08 AM
He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 10:59:11 AM
We should only really be selling s*** players, not the ones who we can build a team around. Sick of ashley’s short term NUFC.all depends on if him, if he wants to go it will be hard to keep him
He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:46:45 PM
This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.
I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.
When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:48:14 PM
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:51:19 PM
Absolutely no reason to sell him whatsoever.
I really hope so.
Got such a good head on his shoulders too. Future captain material for goodness sake.
This interest from Man U is really irritating and forced to me. You just know if he struggles a bit they'll discard him in a heart beat and go and buy the next new thing. Urgh.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:54:41 PM
Talk of a £20 million bid now.
This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.
I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.
When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.
£40m plus a hefty sell-on fee/additional clauses based on apps, trophies, international caps, etc. Personally wouldn’t sell him but could see that sort of offer being difficult to refuse.
Post by: LV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:57:08 PM
Post by: mighty__mag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:01:58 PM
Post by: huss9 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:02:45 PM
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:06:58 PM
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Post by: Heake on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:22:58 PM
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Big Mike lining up the chasers as we speak
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:25:11 PM
Post by: Rich on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:29:46 PM
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:32:19 PM
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:35:30 PM
Plus he's exactly the sort a team should do everything to hold onto. A player that is local and has come through the your development team.
Would be shame IMO.
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:38:39 PM
Post by: Odear on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:43:56 PM
Daft to even consider selling at this point.
Between Gayle, Hayden, Perez, Shelvey and potentially Longstaff as well there’s about 100m+ in sales there this summer if Rafa wanted.
But potentially all of those would cost significantly more to replace..
Post by: SteV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.
Could we? Without wanting to sound a bit 'Ashley', Longstaff will be on buttons in PL wage terms, any 30m replacement would demand at least 50Kp/w, probably more, so you have to take that into account.
Here's at list of some of the midfielders that joined PL clubs last season for between (roughly) 15 - 25m:
Torreira
Traore
Shaqiri
Lerma
Maddison
Jota
Seri
I wouldn't swap him for many of them.
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:46:39 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:54:32 PM
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:05:22 PM
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:12:05 PM
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:12:34 PM
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:17:02 PM
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
didn't maddison go for £24m or something having never played top flight football?
i'd want between £30-40m to even consider it personally, and if rafa doesn't want it then it shouldn't happen anyways whatever the price
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:17:33 PM
It's not about raw numbers but the abdication of hope that such a move represents. Being unable or unwilling to hold on to the rare good talent that comes from an Academy like ours - whether or not it should be a rare thing is another conversation - is perfectly in line with the Ashley protocol.Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:23:40 PM
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Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:25:43 PM
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:34:10 PM
He's played 9 games. Talking about 30-50m is nonsense. Howay lads, get real.
It’s a nuts market and we don’t want to sell, why not?
Post by: LV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:40:33 PM
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Really Froggy?
Post by: Boo Boy on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:41:04 PM
Post by: Chris_R on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:56:00 PM
:lol: People talking about this like we're a normal football club who would simply reinvest the money and build a better squad.
This.
Remember when we sold Cabaye for £20m and speculated about how we'd reinvest the money? :lol:
Spoiler
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Post by: Ikon on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:57:10 PM
Post by: marki on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:19:24 PM
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:31:53 PM
It's not about raw numbers but the abdication of hope that such a move represents. Being unable or unwilling to hold on to the rare good talent that comes from an Academy like ours - whether or not it should be a rare thing is another conversation - is perfectly in line with the Ashley protocol.Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
aye be f***ing madness to sell him
At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?
Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
I agree with the sentiment but the reality is if we can improve the team by selling an overvalued asset it's a sensible thing to do imo. This is obviously in some eggs in moonshine world where we would use all the money to actually improve the playing squad...
:lol: Hope?
Post by: Mr Logic on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:37:18 PM
(It will all be laying in bits a few weeks hence, won't it. :D )
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:54:12 PM
The one-club player is such a rarity these days that even an 18-year old with promise is extremely unlikely to give your club more than a handful of seasons.
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:08:12 PM
Post by: taxfree on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.
Stuff like this man..
How, after years of Mike Ashley, can you argue like this?
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:22:46 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:26:29 PM
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:29:37 PM
Post by: Gallowgate End on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:42:51 PM
A young English, 2 footed passing centre midfielder, with a decent long distance shot on him.. we'd be mental to sell him.
We’ll probably get offered Mctonimay in return who couldn’t even dream of what Longstaff can do with a football off either foot :hmm:
Same skill set apparently :idiot2:
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:45:01 PM
He’ll be warming the bench for them for a while anyway unless they can shift the s**** there already.
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:09:33 PM
Utter madness to sell. We're close to having the spine of a pretty decent side, and with a few additions this summer we could kick on a bit and prove it.
(It will all be laying in bits a few weeks hence, won't it. :D )
Kick on to where? 10th 7th 11th? Means nowt really. We will be a safe as houses or relegated. Unless a multi billionaire wants to invest the top 5 ish will be very tough to break unless it's a fluke
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:10:27 PM
Post by: Cronky on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:28:30 PM
He is our best young player since Gazza, and it's impossible to put a value on him now.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:48:03 PM
Or even better they bugger off.
Post by: Stottie on Thursday 23 May 2019, 02:59:11 AM
As everyone says, the biggest issue is that any fee would not be reinvested in the team.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 06:06:12 AM
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Really Froggy?
Well aye. We're spending £15m on a winger from the Championship. Some season long loan fees approach £10m these days. For a young Englishman who's already done well in his albet short time in the league, £20m is nothing now.
Post by: LV on Thursday 23 May 2019, 09:57:06 AM
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Really Froggy?
Well aye. We're spending £15m on a winger from the Championship. Some season long loan fees approach £10m these days. For a young Englishman who's already done well in his albet short time in the league, £20m is nothing now.
I just can’t see it, especially as he’s not even back from injury. What if he’s not the player he was?
Well we’ll see eh? Maybe I’m just remembering Man U as they used to be.
Post by: AlanSkärare on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:20:32 AM
Yes, it's only 9 games, but in those 9 games he's more than held his own against top opponents.
He is our best young player since Gazza, and it's impossible to put a value on him now.
Carroll was tearing the whole country apart in 2010. He never reached those heights again, but he was the best young player the club has fielded in a long, long time. Longstaff could well surpass that within the next year, but not after 9 games.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:28:30 AM
Post by: hakka on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:31:48 AM
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
Post by: covmag on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:51:45 AM
Post by: James on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:57:15 AM
£45m
Post by: James on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:58:13 AM
Post by: covmag on Thursday 23 May 2019, 11:02:15 AM
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 11:21:50 AM
Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:
Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 12:40:06 PM
Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:
Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.
On what planet do you think we'd get rid of McTominay? :lol:
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 12:51:32 PM
Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.
We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:
Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.
On what planet do you think we'd get rid of McTominay? :lol:
You do realise Man Utd are trying to upgrade him with someone that can do what he can do but ALSO do what Michael Carrick could with a football at his feet? :smug:
You’d have to give us that basic version of yours plus £30million.
Joking but that is the only deal I’d do I think Mctominay is very good at winning the ball back just limited with the ball compared to Longstaff.
Hopefully the board really test how far Man Utd are willing to go for Longstaff.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:25:54 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:37:02 PM
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:37:55 PM
so would manyoo by the looks of it
Well spotted :lol:
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:44:45 PM
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:46:12 PM
so would manyoo by the looks of it
Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:55:15 PM
so would manyoo by the looks of it
Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.
At what playing 50/60 yard passes off either foot? :azn:
At having a left foot as good as his right. :azn:
At having Michael Carrick composure? :azn:
What exactly is Mctominay better at?
It certainly isn’t winning the ball back because Longstaff has that in his locker too.
Longstaff is a better all round player I even like and rate Mctominay but Longstaff has far more in his game.
I don’t think Man Utd would want Longstaff if they thought Mctominay was better than him.
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:57:01 PM
is carroll still under contract at west ham? :lol:
Until the end of June.
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 23 May 2019, 02:06:46 PM
I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.
how about you take your 25m and go buy someone else, you'll only ruin Longstaff under the mighty OGS. Longstaff under Rafa is so much better for his career.
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:08:41 PM
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:15:11 PM
so would manyoo by the looks of it
Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.
:lol:
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:20:28 PM
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:51:15 PM
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
Post by: nemtizz on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:00:30 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:08:28 PM
Post by: covmag on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:11:32 PM
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
Why Sessengon, he’s really over hyped.
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:39:58 PM
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:56:38 PM
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
:thup:
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:01:49 PM
McTominay is garbage.
Very good ball winner.
He’d get even better at his position with the team shape drills of Rafa Benitez that has been so well coached into Longstaff.
£30million plus Mctominay or no deal :nope:
Post by: Ikon on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:15:13 PM
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:20:56 PM
I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.
If he was some kid we'd previously bought from France I'd probably agree.
The fact he is a local kid and has come through the youth setup makes that fee a complete non starter.
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:25:55 PM
He's played 9 premier League games...Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.
If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
:lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.
Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
Post by: Cronky on Friday 24 May 2019, 07:24:58 AM
To be honest, whenever I don my anorak and try to think up my all-time Newcastle XI, I get a bit stuck trying to think of an anchor man in midfield who can also pass well. I don't think we've ever had a player with Longstaff's skill set. And I'm reluctant to talk about 'potential' because I think he's already arrived.
Post by: HawK on Friday 24 May 2019, 07:32:50 AM
Players like Longstaff are often under-rated in terms of their value. He can play that defensive role in CM, but can also get the ball moving forward quickly and accurately. I always think that players in his position see a lot of the ball, and if they can use the ball as well as win it, that makes a big difference to how the rest of the team functions.
To be honest, whenever I don my anorak and try to think up my all-time Newcastle XI, I get a bit stuck trying to think of an anchor man in midfield who can also pass well. I don't think we've ever had a player with Longstaff's skill set. And I'm reluctant to talk about 'potential' because I think he's already arrived.
Hamann was the best in my memory, before he spouted 'oohh i'm homesick', before moving to f***ing Liverpool.
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Friday 24 May 2019, 08:05:12 AM
Post by: mickthemagpie on Friday 24 May 2019, 08:23:43 AM
He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
Post by: Froggy on Friday 24 May 2019, 09:06:25 AM
He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 24 May 2019, 09:10:37 AM
He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here realize Longstaff is better.
Post by: Froggy on Friday 24 May 2019, 09:12:29 AM
Post by: Collage on Friday 24 May 2019, 10:59:45 AM
Post by: ohmelads on Friday 24 May 2019, 11:38:49 AM
He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
Too early to compare Longstaff to other youngsters because he hasn't played enough games and they play at opposite ends of the table, but he deserves the praise he's getting. Made his first competitive games in a struggling side that had won only 1 of its last 6 (against Huddersfield) and faced a tough run including Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs, Wolves. During what should have been the toughest part of our season, he played a major part in turning the season around.
Big season for him next year. Hope he comes back stronger from his injury.
Post by: Gottlob on Friday 24 May 2019, 01:19:08 PM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 24 May 2019, 02:14:25 PM
Post by: Kanji on Friday 24 May 2019, 02:46:54 PM
Post by: geordie john on Friday 24 May 2019, 03:01:08 PM
Post by: Disco on Friday 24 May 2019, 03:18:56 PM
I'll sell you Longstaff for £25m, Shelvey for £18m and Gayle for £15m as long as I can buy Rondon for £16.5m and you give me Trafalgar Square plus Fleet Street for £300. Oh, and while we're dreaming........
Mackems have already won Trafalgar Square I'm afraid.
Post by: Dokko on Friday 24 May 2019, 04:39:20 PM
Post by: Sima on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:35:52 AM
Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
Post by: geordie john on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:40:12 AM
Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
I increasingly get the feeling that nothing matters. Sell 'em all, for what impact it will have. Crash and burn approaches?
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:40:13 AM
How many times does this have to be said before it sinks in? I’d rather we lost him because of a £2m release clause than sell him for £40m and Ashley trouser the lot.Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:57:07 AM
He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
This reminds me of when Hayden was the best player on the pitch against Man City.
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 25 May 2019, 11:19:17 AM
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 25 May 2019, 11:20:19 AM
He's played 9 premier League games...
True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
This reminds me of when Hayden was the best player on the pitch against Man City.
I know this is to make a point but I still want to argue Longstaff was better :lol:
Post by: Froggy on Monday 27 May 2019, 08:02:17 PM
Arguably better than Lionel Messi was Scotty. Saw it in a Froggy post right there.
Messi was s**** in the first leg.
Post by: oldtype on Monday 27 May 2019, 09:15:47 PM
Post by: Mr Logic on Monday 27 May 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Who is this person
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7WDRDn4mtA
Post by: Conjo on Monday 27 May 2019, 10:41:51 PM
Most times when I read about young players that "play maturely" I always get suspicious that they are most likely just a bit s***. They do the easy things because they can't do the hard stuff (playing safe, playing maturely), while looking tidy and doing some running around (prime example being Cack Jogback, but a more recent example to me at least is Tom Davies at Everton). Longstaff though just has that maturety but also the confidence and ability to do the hard stuff when it makes sense. He's also got a good frame/build for a central midfielder and is more athletic than I first thought. I just can't wait to see him on the field next season. :smitten:
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 01:44:10 AM
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 01:52:35 AM
If the #NUFCTakeover is true I’d sell Longstaff to #MUFC for £25m then immediately buy him back for £100m just to send a message. #NUFC
— Mart (@MartRyton) May 27, 2019
:lol:
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 05:59:50 AM
Post by: CPL on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 08:21:22 AM
Such a tidy classy player, that video didn’t even show the penalty he won against Man City but great video anyway. Definitely keep him at all costs, crazy that he has only played 7 games this season.
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 8 June 2019, 03:41:30 PM
?s=19Man United have been dealt a transfer blow as Sean Longstaff snubs a move to Old Trafford this summer. [Independent] #nufc
— NUFC 360 (@NUFC360) June 8, 2019
Post by: triggs on Saturday 8 June 2019, 03:42:06 PM
Post by: taxfree on Saturday 8 June 2019, 03:47:22 PM
Quote
‘I’ve always wanted to play for Newcastle and I’ve only had a little taste of that so for me, it’s about getting fit as soon as I can and getting back on the pitch for Newcastle and making more memories of the future.’
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:14:27 PM
Post by: covmag on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:24:20 PM
Post by: tmonkey on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:42:42 PM
Long staff knows O0
He'll be racking up the assists with Mbappe up front. Easy through balls.
Post by: Klaus on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:44:20 PM
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:33:12 PM
Post by: KaKa on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:39:16 PM
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:48:38 PM
Hope we send someone over to them to reply with a firm kick to the bollocks.
Ashley will have the transfer chopper sent over
Post by: The Little Waster on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:48:56 PM
Post by: AlanSkärare on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:50:28 PM
Post by: LV on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:51:21 PM
Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.
Will be a lot easier to not care anymore though won’t it.
Post by: sempuki on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:51:35 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:53:49 PM
Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.
yeah but look at it from Ashley's POV for a change, try to walk a mile in the other person's shoes
-£6m p/a saved on Rafa's wages
-£1.75m gamble - getting at least x10 back for him
-£0 youth product will fetch £30m when we negotiate with them
i mean come on, give the guy a break
Post by: taxfree on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:18:56 PM
Post by: Ian W on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:20:17 PM
Post by: Disco on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:26:58 PM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:27:19 PM
Post by: Rafalove on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:52:23 PM
Post by: Conjo on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:16:42 PM
Post by: Ketsbaia on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:19:34 PM
Post by: Odear on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:22:35 PM
Highly doubtful this will happen though. More like Man Utd supporting journalists trying to unsettle the lad. Or it’s coming from the club itself which is disappointing.
25 million would be cheap for what his potential could be anyway. Another season and he would be worth double.
If the club had any sense they would offer him a new contract with more money and an in incentivised scale of increase. Give him something to work towards.
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:28:14 PM
I can't see Longstaff leaving so early in his career fwiw.
Post by: Odear on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:31:49 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:36:00 PM
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:41:23 PM
Post by: marki on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:42:37 PM
Post by: Heake on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:45:14 PM
If Mike Ashley was still going to be the owner I wouldn’t blame the lad if he left. It would be the sensible thing.
dejavu with the early 80s etc
Post by: Odear on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:51:38 PM
How could they be if nothing is happening. Charnley is off with his head in a sand box somewhere, Mike is preoccupied with legal proceedings against Debenhams and Rafa has been historically quiet.
Post by: sixx on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:55:24 PM
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:55:36 PM
The papers are full of s***. There’s no new news about this yet they run headlines like “Manchester United closing in on Longstaff”
How could they be if nothing is happening. Charnley is off with his head in a sand box somewhere, Mike is preoccupied with legal proceedings against Debenhams and Rafa has been historically quiet.
Whilst the cat's away the mouse will............... poach the most naturally talented midfielder Newcastle have produced in a generation.
Post by: geordiedean on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:12:10 PM
Post by: Joe_F on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:18:09 PM
?s=19Multiple reports saying Man United have bid - or are about to bid - £25m for Sean Longstaff. I’m told Newcastle have had no contact from them for their young midfielder. #NUFC #MUFC
— Keith Downie (@SkySports_Keith) June 14, 2019
Post by: STM on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:22:44 PM
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:28:47 PM
Ashley licking his lips in anticipation?s=19Multiple reports saying Man United have bid - or are about to bid - £25m for Sean Longstaff. I’m told Newcastle have had no contact from them for their young midfielder. #NUFC #MUFC
— Keith Downie (@SkySports_Keith) June 14, 2019
He must have been talking to someone who works part time in the club shop
Post by: Kanji on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:37:05 PM
Post by: Cronky on Friday 14 June 2019, 07:20:29 PM
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 15 June 2019, 12:16:17 AM
Post by: Thumbheed on Saturday 15 June 2019, 12:25:20 AM
Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.
Post by: Johneddy on Saturday 15 June 2019, 12:26:10 AM
If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******
What you're saying is that our supporters will accept anything?
Post by: covmag on Saturday 15 June 2019, 02:33:35 AM
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 15 June 2019, 05:47:20 AM
About time we just said f*** off"No comment"
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 15 June 2019, 11:57:58 AM
Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.
We haven’t made too many bad sales really. Just not enough signings.
Post by: Thumbheed on Saturday 15 June 2019, 01:09:40 PM
Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.
We haven’t made too many bad sales really. Just not enough signings.
A sale is a bad sale if it's not adequately replaced. I'd say there's been lots of players during his tenure that weren't replaced with equal or better players. From what I've seen of Longstaff, I think he's actually one of the better players we've had during Ashley's time. Factor in the fact he's local and a youth product, plus the fact we don't actually know how good he is or could be amounts to this potentially being the worst of the lot.
Post by: marki on Saturday 15 June 2019, 04:12:26 PM
If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******ffs come off it man ;D
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 24 June 2019, 02:49:10 PM
Good luck.
Post by: The Prophet on Monday 24 June 2019, 02:52:54 PM
Post by: HawK on Monday 24 June 2019, 02:53:09 PM
Get yourself out of here kid.
Good luck.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 24 June 2019, 02:54:14 PM
Can we not keep the ridiculous hysteria to one thread?
:ructions:
Post by: Ikon on Monday 24 June 2019, 02:57:23 PM
Post by: Gallowgate End on Monday 24 June 2019, 03:23:38 PM
Run you fool, run!!
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 24 June 2019, 03:24:51 PM
Post by: The Little Waster on Monday 24 June 2019, 04:02:47 PM
Post by: TRC on Monday 24 June 2019, 04:04:26 PM
Post by: thomas on Tuesday 25 June 2019, 03:17:16 AM
Thanks for the opportunity to make my dreams into a reality! All the best @rafabenitezweb pic.twitter.com/PT8CWG3RVr
— Sean Longstaff (@seanlongstaff97) June 24, 2019
Post by: sh74 on Tuesday 25 June 2019, 07:28:51 AM
I like that he chose this pic; Rafa, arm around him, slinging knowledge and him a sponge, ready to soak it up. Could have been something special.Prepare to be Pardewed.Thanks for the opportunity to make my dreams into a reality! All the best @rafabenitezweb pic.twitter.com/PT8CWG3RVr
— Sean Longstaff (@seanlongstaff97) June 24, 2019
Post by: Tiresias on Tuesday 25 June 2019, 09:32:50 AM
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 25 June 2019, 09:37:48 AM
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 25 June 2019, 09:39:04 AM
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 27 June 2019, 10:08:31 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48784875
Post by: Tyne81 on Thursday 27 June 2019, 10:14:15 AM
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 27 June 2019, 11:16:42 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 27 June 2019, 11:23:30 AM
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 27 June 2019, 11:32:15 AM
Targeting a player while we have no manager is to be expected, not sure I'm happy with the beeb for ramping it up.
Just don’t report it, or what? :lol:
Post by: Danh1 on Thursday 27 June 2019, 11:33:10 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 27 June 2019, 11:33:44 AM
Targeting a player while we have no manager is to be expected, not sure I'm happy with the beeb for ramping it up.
Just don’t report it, or what? :lol:
It's not as if it's a new story.
Post by: covmag on Thursday 27 June 2019, 11:41:14 AM
inevitable he's going, good luck to the lad ;)
Post by: County Durham Mag on Thursday 27 June 2019, 12:15:06 PM
Targeting a player while we have no manager is to be expected, not sure I'm happy with the beeb for ramping it up.
Who gives a f***. It's a good thing. Wouldn't wish it on anyone to be stuck here. Hope he goes for 5m
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 27 June 2019, 12:15:38 PM
Post by: chopey on Thursday 27 June 2019, 12:18:06 PM
He should leave but he shouldn't go to Man Utd.
Agree with this, he like the majority of the players Rafa has put together would be better suited at Arsenal
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 27 June 2019, 12:19:46 PM
Post by: County Durham Mag on Thursday 27 June 2019, 12:22:45 PM
Rafa had the foundations of a solid mid table side as well. 2/3 good signings on top of Dubravka, Schar, lascelles, Lejeune, Longstaff, Almiron, Perez and Rondon and we could have easily been challenging for between 6th-10th
Such a f***ing waste and shame still not over it me don't think I ever will be
Post by: chopey on Friday 28 June 2019, 11:53:43 AM
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 June 2019, 11:55:30 AM
Get yourself out of here kid.
Good luck.
This.
Post by: Bishops Finger on Friday 28 June 2019, 11:58:49 AM
Nailed on to cash in on him now.Probably one of the reasons I don't think Ashley is ready to sell the club yet is the fact theres still a bit money to be made on the likes of Longstaff, Perez, Almiron and Laccelles. Your looking at close the £100m for those lot and we all know what floats Ashley's boat
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 28 June 2019, 12:25:28 PM
Rafa had the foundations of a solid mid table side as well. 2/3 good signings on top of Dubravka, Schar, lascelles, Lejeune, Longstaff, Almiron, Perez and Rondon and we could have easily been challenging for between 6th-10th
Such a f***ing waste and shame still not over it me don't think I ever will be
Agree :thup:
All the foundations now being ripped apart with Rafa, Rondon, Perez, Longstaff likely leaving.
Mike Ashley sending the club back years this Summer.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 28 June 2019, 01:38:06 PM
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 28 June 2019, 01:59:53 PM
Rafa had the foundations of a solid mid table side as well. 2/3 good signings on top of Dubravka, Schar, lascelles, Lejeune, Longstaff, Almiron, Perez and Rondon and we could have easily been challenging for between 6th-10th
Such a f***ing waste and shame still not over it me don't think I ever will be
Agree :thup:
All the foundations now being ripped apart with Rafa, Rondon, Perez, Longstaff likely leaving.
Mike Ashley sending the club back years this Summer.
Been sending the club backwards since he stepped through the door. Get the c*** out
Post by: gdm on Friday 28 June 2019, 03:53:25 PM
?s=21Seems #mufc reporters being heavily briefed from somewhere that a Sean Longstaff deal could be done for £25m. #nufc said a few weeks ago not for sale.
— Mark Douglas (@MsiDouglas) June 28, 2019
I really don't want to see him go: #nufc best young talent should developing at the club. Plus would send out the wrong message.
Post by: HawK on Friday 28 June 2019, 03:54:24 PM
Post by: Wilson on Friday 28 June 2019, 03:54:58 PM
Post by: The Little Waster on Friday 28 June 2019, 03:55:15 PM
?s=21Seems #mufc reporters being heavily briefed from somewhere that a Sean Longstaff deal could be done for £25m. #nufc said a few weeks ago not for sale.
— Mark Douglas (@MsiDouglas) June 28, 2019
I really don't want to see him go: #nufc best young talent should developing at the club. Plus would send out the wrong message.
'Fans ' will merely speculate about who the next manager will get with all that money : )
Post by: gdm on Friday 28 June 2019, 03:57:27 PM
Post by: sempuki on Friday 28 June 2019, 03:59:56 PM
Imagine Not keeping Rafa, letting the first decent local talent since Andy Carroll go cheap and fans still turning up :lol:With a 5% increase.
Post by: covmag on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:10:44 PM
He's worth double that at least in today's market.
Not quite at the minute in truth, the minute he has a good game for them his value will double.
He could easily lose form and his value will plummet with us, catch 22 but I get what you mean.
Post by: reefatoon on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:12:56 PM
Post by: Ketsbaia on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:14:53 PM
Would be crazy considering he came in with no hype aged 21, played 9 games then got a knee injury.
Post by: sempuki on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:27:02 PM
?s=21Seems #mufc reporters being heavily briefed from somewhere that a Sean Longstaff deal could be done for £25m. #nufc said a few weeks ago not for sale.
— Mark Douglas (@MsiDouglas) June 28, 2019
I really don't want to see him go: #nufc best young talent should developing at the club. Plus would send out the wrong message.
As if he is going to stay as it stands.
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:29:13 PM
Post by: reefatoon on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:34:33 PM
they literally just paid 45m for a guy with only 40 odd appearances not only would it be horrible to sell him for the obvious reasons, it would also be f***ing incompetence for such a low price (in todays market) they're man utd take them to the f***ing cleaners
Why? We never get to see the money anyway. Sell him for a pittance and it will stop Mike snapping up another failed retail outlet.
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:35:59 PM
because f*** man utd more than anything reallythey literally just paid 45m for a guy with only 40 odd appearances not only would it be horrible to sell him for the obvious reasons, it would also be f***ing incompetence for such a low price (in todays market) they're man utd take them to the f***ing cleaners
Why? We never get to see the money anyway. Sell him for a pittance and it will stop Mike snapping up another failed retail outlet.
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:46:08 PM
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:56:00 PM
There's just absolutely nothing to get behind or be excited about anymore and it's been that way at NUFC for a long, long time.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 28 June 2019, 04:57:45 PM
:yao:
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 28 June 2019, 05:00:19 PM
Could it be that Ashley now wants to see us go as low as possible and then walk away, just to p*ss the fans off? I’d take that.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 28 June 2019, 05:00:31 PM
Post by: chopey on Friday 28 June 2019, 05:05:12 PM
Hope we sell him. Hope we sell all of our good players.
Could it be that Ashley now wants to see us go as low as possible and then walk away, just to p*ss the fans off? I’d take that.
Me to, its death by a thousands cuts but I'll go home and away in the Vanarama if it means Ashley has lost money and f***s off.
Post by: Minhosa on Friday 28 June 2019, 05:07:52 PM
If I was his father or agent, I'd be telling him to get out asap.
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 28 June 2019, 05:12:15 PM
Post by: chopey on Friday 28 June 2019, 05:15:52 PM
Post by: geordie john on Friday 28 June 2019, 06:24:42 PM
Hope we sell him. Hope we sell all of our good players.
Could it be that Ashley now wants to see us go as low as possible and then walk away, just to p*ss the fans off? I’d take that.
100% agree. Hope all the first team put in written transfer requests tomorrow. Let the best go for whatever price Ashley thinks is the best he can get. Let him pocket the cash. The club is dead. Maybe in a few years, or 10 years, it will, like the Phoenix, soar again. Until then I am in complete emotional hibernation........
Post by: Dinho lad on Friday 28 June 2019, 07:33:09 PM
Honestly, he'd be mad NOT to leave this shitshow.
If I was his father or agent, I'd be telling him to get out asap.
true.
Post by: Decky on Friday 28 June 2019, 09:03:17 PM
Post by: Sima on Friday 28 June 2019, 10:04:40 PM
In the great chart of the absolute cuntery which has sent out the wrong message in the past, selling Sean Longstaff wouldn’t even scrape the top ten.
Post by: Robster on Friday 28 June 2019, 10:30:47 PM
Fuckwits
Post by: OCK on Saturday 29 June 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 29 June 2019, 09:17:27 AM
If I was the lad, I'd leave. You get 10 years in the Premier League if you're good, free from injuries and generally fit. He'll get less than that staying at the current Newcastle United setup.
He'd be daft not to leave this summer, with his stock high and his Toon future suddenly looking a lot bleaker.
I just wish it wasn't Man Yoo. Surely he'd be looking to start wherever he goes.
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 29 June 2019, 07:45:34 PM
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 29 June 2019, 07:49:46 PM
15m according to the mail. They can f*** off with that like. 50m for a RB. Longstaff should start at 30m given his form and the hype. Don't blame him for going, obviously the club will take Any thing they can get for him. Another what might have been. Should have built a side with him central to it. :(£15m is absolutely nowt these days.
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 29 June 2019, 07:56:23 PM
15m according to the mail. They can f*** off with that like. 50m for a RB. Longstaff should start at 30m given his form and the hype. Don't blame him for going, obviously the club will take Any thing they can get for him. Another what might have been. Should have built a side with him central to it. :(£15m is absolutely nowt these days.
Yep, Southampton's 2nd choice left back is going for only slightly less
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 29 June 2019, 09:16:52 PM
Leeds are after double that for Kalvin frigging Phillips
Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 29 June 2019, 11:22:39 PM
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 30 June 2019, 08:34:11 AM
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 30 June 2019, 08:57:35 AM
Post by: The College Dropout on Sunday 30 June 2019, 09:51:43 AM
But new boss will get 2m of that 15 to spend. Remember that.
Don’t care.
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 30 June 2019, 10:11:21 AM
But new boss will get 2m of that 15 to spend. Remember that.
Don’t care.
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Post by: chopey on Sunday 30 June 2019, 10:37:05 PM
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Post by: tmonkey on Monday 1 July 2019, 01:40:09 PM
I get him wanting to leave, I get that he should get out of dodge for the benefit of his career, but is Man U really the right place now? There is a huge risk that the OGS experiment will lead to the worst Man U team in the Premier League era. Leicester or Wolves (or that type of club) would surely be a better move for him
Risk vs reward. ManU are still one of the biggest clubs in world football, certainly have one of the biggest turnovers, so the potential reward if things go right there either under OGS or his successor could be huge. Also far more likely to get an England call up or get into the first team if he does alright there.
Post by: mofo on Monday 1 July 2019, 01:42:26 PM
Just had a text from someone that knows Paul Dummet (I know) to say he's gone this week.
Shame if true, he looks like a real talent.
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Monday 1 July 2019, 01:44:13 PM
Post by: St1pe on Monday 1 July 2019, 02:12:26 PM
Heard a rumour that he doesn't want to leave, but that it's completely out of his hands. If the club decides to sell, he doesn't have a choice. Repeat of the Andy Carroll sale
I didn’t accept that reasoning with Carroll either. If he doesn’t want to leave he doesn’t accept the buying clubs terms as he stays here. What would we have done with Carroll or Longstaff let him rot in the reserves? No chance.
Post by: Conjo on Monday 1 July 2019, 02:14:03 PM
Post by: covmag on Monday 1 July 2019, 02:14:27 PM
Heard a rumour that he doesn't want to leave, but that it's completely out of his hands. If the club decides to sell, he doesn't have a choice. Repeat of the Andy Carroll sale
He can choose to stay, but why would he.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 2 July 2019, 08:07:18 AM
I’d take £25m for that Longstaff.
Edit: they’ve taken it down. Daily Express had photos of OGS & Matty Longstaff.
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 2 July 2019, 08:14:11 AM
Post by: sugoinufc on Tuesday 2 July 2019, 01:40:23 PM
It wouldn´t surprise me at all...absolutely no hope left. It has all fallen apart - more than ever thought possible :suicide:
Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 2 July 2019, 03:19:05 PM
Post by: covmag on Tuesday 2 July 2019, 03:32:19 PM
Selling Longstaff for any amount this summer will be the final kill.
It wouldn´t surprise me at all...absolutely no hope left. It has all fallen apart - more than ever thought possible :suicide:
Nope that happened a few years ago when the future Ashley model was sussed.
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 3 July 2019, 02:39:06 AM
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 3 July 2019, 02:41:46 AM
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 3 July 2019, 02:52:28 AM
Only surprising part of that is he doesn't want to leave.
By all accounts he’s a well grounded down to earth kid. I rate him, but all ego and self confidence aside I’d be thinking let’s get in 2 years of first team football at Newcastle, become the main man, get some injury free consistency, get into the England squad and get a cap even, and develop nicely under a less pressurised environment and then move. It’s all up to him of course, but a move to Man Utd is just as or more likely to curtail his development and experience than enhance it right now. Look at Jordan Henderson and Carrick for example. It’s not as if Man Utd are going to fast track him towards silverware or playing in a top team, even if they were at that level which they aren’t. If he does move, hopefully he gets into the team, plays every week and becomes a top player with success coming his way. He's more talented than Henderson IMO, but very raw. Anything less than 25m would be a joke, still it all goes into the club’s pockets so anything that gives Rafa... oh wait! :lol:
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 3 July 2019, 02:59:21 AM
Only surprising part of that is he doesn't want to leave.
By all accounts he’s a well grounded down to earth kid. I rate him, but all ego and self confidence aside I’d be thinking let’s get in 2 years of first team football at Newcastle, become the main man, get some injury free consistency, get into the England squad and get a cap even, and develop nicely under a less pressurised environment and then move. It’s all up to him of course, but a move to Man Utd is just as or more likely to curtail his development and experience than enhance it right now. Look at Jordan Henderson and Carrick for example. It’s not as if Man Utd are going to fast track him towards silverware or playing in a top team, even if they were at that level which they aren’t. If he does move, hopefully he gets into the team, plays every week and becomes a top player with success coming his way. He's more talented than Henderson IMO, but very raw. Anything less than 25m would be a joke, still it all goes into the club’s pockets so anything that gives Rafa... oh wait! :lol:
I'll have what he's having :thup:
Mate, I know you've been away, but there's this guy called Mike Ashley... ;)
If Rafa was here, or a takeover looked likely, I'd be spitting blood. In fact, I've half a mind to buy a Longstaff away top from 18/19 as a sort of bookend for my love affair with the club.
EDIT: Not mocking your rating of the lad - I think he's the bomb too. Just the staying here bit, just mocking that bit :thup:
Post by: ohmelads on Wednesday 3 July 2019, 04:00:54 AM
Only surprising part of that is he doesn't want to leave.
By all accounts he’s a well grounded down to earth kid. I rate him, but all ego and self confidence aside I’d be thinking let’s get in 2 years of first team football at Newcastle, become the main man, get some injury free consistency, get into the England squad and get a cap even, and develop nicely under a less pressurised environment and then move. It’s all up to him of course, but a move to Man Utd is just as or more likely to curtail his development and experience than enhance it right now. Look at Jordan Henderson and Carrick for example. It’s not as if Man Utd are going to fast track him towards silverware or playing in a top team, even if they were at that level which they aren’t. If he does move, hopefully he gets into the team, plays every week and becomes a top player with success coming his way. He's more talented than Henderson IMO, but very raw. Anything less than 25m would be a joke, still it all goes into the club’s pockets so anything that gives Rafa... oh wait! :lol:
I'd say he'd have more chance of getting in the England squad as a bit-part Man Utd player than a Newcastle first-teamer. Also debatable that a relegation battle at a club almost constantly in chaos with talk of boycotts and potential protests throughout the season is a less pressurised environment.
Post by: Chicane on Wednesday 3 July 2019, 04:14:02 AM
Not only that, but in the second year he'll be able to look forward to plying his trade and learning by playing against elite players from sides such as Millwall and Preston in the Championship.
Aye, he'd be mad to leave.
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 3 July 2019, 06:31:58 AM
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Post by: Nobody on Thursday 4 July 2019, 11:56:50 AM
Dan Storey wrote an article (a very good one) on the whole mess at the club at the minute and said Longstaff was 'likely to leave.' I tweeted him to ask if that was his knowledge or just speculation and his reply was - "As far as I know, he's keen, Man United are keen and Newcastle are prepared to sell. Which suggests it will get done." Doesn't sound good.Sounds excellent to me. Proves that our academy and training ground is f***ing mint, no need to invest anything there, and we're getting £20m for a player we've only paid small wages to.
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 4 July 2019, 12:02:33 PM
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Post by: TBG on Thursday 4 July 2019, 12:08:03 PM
Post by: covmag on Thursday 4 July 2019, 12:14:54 PM
More money in the kitty :lol:
Post by: UncleBingo on Thursday 4 July 2019, 12:15:32 PM
Dan Storey wrote an article (a very good one) on the whole mess at the club at the minute and said Longstaff was 'likely to leave.' I tweeted him to ask if that was his knowledge or just speculation and his reply was - "As far as I know, he's keen, Man United are keen and Newcastle are prepared to sell. Which suggests it will get done." Doesn't sound good.
Interesting.
A mate of mine knows him and his family very well through the cricket, and he was saying he wanted to stay. That all could have changed in the last week of course.
Post by: Tyne81 on Thursday 4 July 2019, 12:21:24 PM
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 4 July 2019, 12:21:42 PM
He'll be off too and who can blame him. There have been many to choose from but I'd argue this is our worst pre-season ever. We are so going down.Dan Storey wrote an article (a very good one) on the whole mess at the club at the minute and said Longstaff was 'likely to leave.' I tweeted him to ask if that was his knowledge or just speculation and his reply was - "As far as I know, he's keen, Man United are keen and Newcastle are prepared to sell. Which suggests it will get done." Doesn't sound good.
Interesting.
A mate of mine knows him and his family very well through the cricket, and he was saying he wanted to stay. That all could have changed in the last week of course.
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 4 July 2019, 01:05:48 PM
Not many clubs can pressurise their own top talented young local player who is desperate to stay into f***ing off :lol: :lol:
Lol just like Andy Carroll.
Post by: La Parka on Thursday 4 July 2019, 02:13:51 PM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 4 July 2019, 06:46:30 PM
Well this makes no f***ing sense out of context. 'Sake.
Post by: Andy on Thursday 4 July 2019, 08:03:48 PM
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 4 July 2019, 08:07:30 PM
Post by: Andy on Thursday 4 July 2019, 08:56:27 PM
Well, not so sure. I can equally see a s*** manager taking over and all hell to break loose.
He's English and has a bit hype around him, he could have a s**** season and get relegated and still be worth £25 million tbh.
Post by: James on Thursday 4 July 2019, 08:57:40 PM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 5 July 2019, 06:56:12 AM
Even by the club's usual selling policy it seems beyond moronic to let him go for £25 million now like. Can only see his value increasing over the next few years if he stayed, £25 million for a player that Man Utd will turn into an England international feels like robbery in the current market.
He's still only played a handful of games and then suffered a bad injury. There's a lot of risk involved for us. If Perez was sold for £30m then Ashley is going to accept £25m for Longstaff.
Post by: r0cafella on Friday 5 July 2019, 07:14:12 AM
Selling him for 25milion would be the height of stupidity as far as we are concerned.
Post by: Froggy on Friday 5 July 2019, 07:26:28 AM
Yea, we don't care about your perspective though Froggy.
Selling him for 25milion would be the height of stupidity as far as we are concerned.
:lol: Fair enough.
Post by: Toon No9 on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:10:13 AM
He's the only bright spot at the moment.
Someone we could build our team around for years to come.
Post by: frankpingel on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:17:45 AM
Post by: magorific on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:18:24 AM
Nuts to sell Longstaff for the same price.
So it'll happen...
Post by: Conjo on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:52:49 AM
Really hope Longstaff stays.
He's the only bright spot at the moment.
Someone we could build our team around for years to come.
Let's hope all the bright spots are removed from the club so more people can boycott.
Let's also hope for Longstaffs own sake that he finds a club more suited to develop him.
Post by: TRon on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:56:18 AM
Post by: Dokko on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:59:13 AM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 5 July 2019, 09:10:30 AM
Manure have agreed terms with Bruno Fernandes, surely this is good news for us.
No terms agreed yet from what I know, but him coming in wouldn't affect the pursuit of Longstaff. We're after a Herrera replacement. Bruno Fernandes would be played much further forward.
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 5 July 2019, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: Froggy on Friday 5 July 2019, 09:32:27 AM
88M for Longstaff. 165M for Longstaff and Lascelles together. Bargain.
88m Saudi Riyal is around £19m, so aye that's about right once the Saudi's buy you.
Post by: Toon No9 on Friday 5 July 2019, 11:25:20 AM
He shouldn't be anywhere near leaving the club. He's only played a few 1st team matches, he's a homegrown product at the club he supports and looks to have the potential to become a considerable talent for years to come. Unfortunately the club in question is Mike Ashley's version of Newcastle United.Exactly!
It would be really good for his development to play a whole season for us. And hopefully a takeover is done by then and we/he could look forward to a bright future together. Here's for hoping.🤞
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 5 July 2019, 01:37:51 PM
88M for Longstaff. 165M for Longstaff and Lascelles together. Bargain.
88m Saudi Riyal is around £19m, so aye that's about right once the Saudi's buy you.
Longstaff is better than Pogbar m8
Post by: huss9 on Friday 5 July 2019, 01:52:34 PM
Post by: TBG on Friday 5 July 2019, 02:20:39 PM
Post by: Fitzgerald on Friday 5 July 2019, 02:27:58 PM
shelvey/colback powerhouse a midfield next season then.
2 pure white patriots
Post by: jackyboy on Friday 5 July 2019, 03:09:37 PM
Post by: Collage on Friday 5 July 2019, 03:30:44 PM
We will need 2 Jack Colbacks because of all the yellow and red cards he picks up
There’s only one Jackie Colback
Post by: chopey on Friday 5 July 2019, 07:08:41 PM
Post by: sempuki on Friday 5 July 2019, 07:57:19 PM
Bid incoming !!!!!£50m?
https://mobile.twitter.com/UtdRobert/status/1147213536780832769
Post by: Dokko on Friday 5 July 2019, 07:59:29 PM
Bid incoming !!!!!£50m?
https://mobile.twitter.com/UtdRobert/status/1147213536780832769
Glad we’re not being a soft touch....if true.
Post by: sempuki on Friday 5 July 2019, 07:59:31 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11757612/manchester-united-preparing-bid-for-sean-longstaff-from-newcastle
Post by: sempuki on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:00:30 PM
Redfearn or Sherwood won't see much of it though. Straight to Jabba's bank account.Bid incoming !!!!!£50m?
https://mobile.twitter.com/UtdRobert/status/1147213536780832769
Glad we’re not being a soft touch....if true.
Post by: Rafalove on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:08:17 PM
Post by: The Little Waster on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:12:05 PM
Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
Post by: chopey on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:13:16 PM
Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
Aye
Post by: Rafalove on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:16:30 PM
Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
Aye just don’t like the thought of one of our local lads going for cheap
Post by: sempuki on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:34:02 PM
Post by: The Little Waster on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:35:25 PM
Still want more, tbh. He’s worth more to us than them.
Why ? What does it matter if he goes for £50m or 50p ? Its only going into fat mikes sky rocket anyway
Aye just don’t like the thought of one of our local lads going for cheap
The cheaper he goes for the less £££ fat mike gets
Post by: Fitzgerald on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Is he really going to improve a top 6 side and be able to play CL etc? The feed for English players aren't mental. For an extra 10-15m or even 50m they could just go and get a proven class midfielder like Rakitic, Asensio, James Rodriguez etc
Post by: Dokko on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:39:36 PM
If Ashley makes £50m from an academy product he might even stump up for a new tin of paint for the walls.
If he got that for SL, plus the AC money, would £85m for 2 academy players in England be a record? Don't spend a penny and get that, no wonder he doesn't see investing a thing.
Post by: Fitzgerald on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:41:04 PM
Post by: Ryan on Friday 5 July 2019, 08:46:11 PM
Post by: mighty__mag on Friday 5 July 2019, 09:06:51 PM
Post by: poor on Friday 5 July 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
:lol:
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 6 July 2019, 12:27:37 AM
Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
100%
I've never seen him play other than highlights v Man City when he looked tidy. Is he even that good? Like what's his best attributes or who is he similar too?
Is he really going to improve a top 6 side and be able to play CL etc? The feed for English players aren't mental. For an extra 10-15m or even 50m they could just go and get a proven class midfielder like Rakitic, Asensio, James Rodriguez etc
I dont even know why I’m asking this but how or why haven’t you seen him play or read a single thing about him?
Post by: Pata on Saturday 6 July 2019, 12:49:13 AM
Post by: chopey on Saturday 6 July 2019, 01:05:06 AM
Post by: Fitzgerald on Saturday 6 July 2019, 05:00:46 AM
Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.
100%I've never seen him play other than highlights v Man City when he looked tidy. Is he even that good? Like what's his best attributes or who is he similar too?
Is he really going to improve a top 6 side and be able to play CL etc? The feed for English players aren't mental. For an extra 10-15m or even 50m they could just go and get a proven class midfielder like Rakitic, Asensio, James Rodriguez etc
I dont even know why I’m asking this but how or why haven’t you seen him play or read a single thing about him?
Ashley's nufc isn't it
Post by: Fitzgerald on Saturday 6 July 2019, 05:01:06 AM
And how could Man United just go and get Rakitic, Asensio or James Rodriguez? :lol:
Bt offering 50 odd million maybe
Post by: Zero on Saturday 6 July 2019, 05:19:49 AM
Surely not. We'll have no bloody team left at this rate.Which is good.
We need relegation
Post by: covmag on Saturday 6 July 2019, 07:19:28 AM
We start the season with no manager, no signings and a few others sold, maybe then some fans might just wake up.Bottom at xmas and the new manager is sacked.Champion
Post by: Froggy on Saturday 6 July 2019, 07:38:42 AM
And how could Man United just go and get Rakitic, Asensio or James Rodriguez? :lol:
Bt offering 50 odd million maybe
:lol: I love your optimism. We cannot attract those players at the minute.
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 6 July 2019, 08:37:51 AM
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Post by: chopey on Saturday 6 July 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 6 July 2019, 08:50:24 AM
Shouldn’t have even gave Man Utd a price (if the reports are true). Not for sale.Exactly this!
If you put a price on him it will keep clubs interessted and to bid for him. It also puts a lot of pressure on him with a high price on his head.
Just say he's not for sale and stick to that!
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 6 July 2019, 08:54:43 AM
All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.How on earth is it heartening to know that?
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 6 July 2019, 09:10:51 AM
All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.How on earth is it heartening to know that?
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Well, it looks like there's no way they're going to sell him for £25m. It looks like there's a big gap between the value we place on him, and the price Man U are prepared to pay, and therefore there's some reasonable hope that we'll keep him.
Post by: Shearergol on Saturday 6 July 2019, 09:20:13 AM
Post by: chopey on Saturday 6 July 2019, 09:26:27 AM
Post by: Fitzgerald on Saturday 6 July 2019, 09:50:17 AM
All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 6 July 2019, 10:00:19 AM
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
A quick online search would have given you this information.
Post by: Mixed_Bag on Saturday 6 July 2019, 10:16:03 AM
Post by: covmag on Saturday 6 July 2019, 10:52:29 AM
All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Important for what.?
Post by: chopey on Saturday 6 July 2019, 11:02:12 AM
Post by: Fitzgerald on Saturday 6 July 2019, 11:15:04 AM
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
A quick online search would have given you this information.
Fair one. I just hardly ever see anything of us these days. Thanks mike
Post by: geordie john on Saturday 6 July 2019, 11:21:05 AM
I think most of our players now have an imaginary release clause so really we HAVE to sell them, we have no choice.
I would seriously be so happy if every player handed in a transfer request today. Sell the lot. Don't care. Good luck to them all, they deserve a better club.
Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 6 July 2019, 11:51:39 AM
He is too important. He is a local lad and the best prospect in a generation. He is someone the fans will love and get behind - a potential world class player rising through the ranks adds a sense of pride to the fans. This guy should be nurtured and be the heart of our team for a decade. Instead he will be binned off for a few quid before we get to see the best of him.
And ruin his career? Nah, he's better off somewhere else.
Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 6 July 2019, 12:00:48 PM
He is too important. He is a local lad and the best prospect in a generation. He is someone the fans will love and get behind - a potential world class player rising through the ranks adds a sense of pride to the fans. This guy should be nurtured and be the heart of our team for a decade. Instead he will be binned off for a few quid before we get to see the best of him.
And ruin his career? Nah, he's better off somewhere else.
Precisely.
If I was a serious football professional (coach, physio, player, whatever) i'd look to leave NUFC. Not interested in improving at all
Post by: covmag on Saturday 6 July 2019, 12:28:56 PM
£50 million or f*** off, not that I give a f*** mind.
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 6 July 2019, 12:37:29 PM
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
A quick online search would have given you this information.
Fair one. I just hardly ever see anything of us these days. Thanks mike
And yet you still feel qualified to opine :lol:
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 6 July 2019, 12:39:44 PM
You've already admitted you've barely watched the lad play. He scored against Burnley as well as against Blackburn in the FA cup. He was quite often our best player during the run of games he started. He won the penalty against Man City. By all accounts he was brilliant for Blackpool.All that's happened here is that someone supposedly in the know has said that he would cost Man U more than they paid for Wan-Bassika.
It's impossible to say what figure would clinch the deal, but at least it's heartening to know that the club have some idea of the player's value.
Having said that, I wouldn't sell him. For us, at this point, he's too important.
Too important :lol: he's played about 7 games and 0 goals and barely an assist? He was hardly pulling up trees in league 1 last year was he?
A quick online search would have given you this information.
Fair one. I just hardly ever see anything of us these days. Thanks mike
And yet you still feel qualified to opine :lol:
I wonder which recently former poster they be?
Post by: Decky on Saturday 6 July 2019, 12:41:37 PM
Post by: chopey on Saturday 6 July 2019, 01:44:05 PM
Post by: geordiedean on Saturday 6 July 2019, 04:32:08 PM
If he goes for £50m+ that'll be what, £80m+ already on transfer fees plus the TV money. We're f***ing loaded and we'll spend f*** all. :lol: If Ashley buys another dead high street chain I'll be f***ing fuming. Draining our club to buy Game and Debenhams ffs.
Yet people still say hes not funneling money out of NUFC to buy these failing businesses
Post by: Robster on Saturday 6 July 2019, 04:44:34 PM
Man U would be crackers to pay £50 millionThey made OGS Manager so anything is possible.
Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 6 July 2019, 04:47:33 PM
Post by: Decky on Saturday 6 July 2019, 05:32:09 PM
Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
Post by: jdckelly on Saturday 6 July 2019, 05:41:32 PM
even to man utd £50m is a fair chunk of money and to pay that for someone with less than 10 premier league appearances would be utterly insaneMan U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
Post by: jackyboy on Sunday 7 July 2019, 06:45:16 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 7 July 2019, 08:18:12 AM
Man U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
I doubt the likes of Brentford could afford him.
Post by: chopey on Sunday 7 July 2019, 09:16:25 AM
even to man utd £50m is a fair chunk of money and to pay that for someone with less than 10 premier league appearances would be utterly insaneMan U would be crackers to pay £50 million
I disagree. He's a young talented English player who looked extremely comfortable in the Premier League last season even scoring a goal in the short amount of games he played. He has all the makings of a future England international.
Now I don't agree that he's worth £50m on a pure player quality level as he is so raw right now, but in this market clubs just simply aren't going to sell a player like this for less than that, so if Man Utd want him that's what they have to pay. Its a gamble for them but if he stays here he either won't work out or he will improve and be worth much more than £50m and might potentially leave to a rival.
Also, we have to remember that £50m is f*** all to Man Utd in the grand scheme of things.
That's what I mean £50 million is a fortune and in today's market you could probably buy 3 championship clubs for that.
Post by: BlueStar on Sunday 7 July 2019, 09:24:07 AM
Apparantly he is 'deeply upset' about Rafas departure and is looking at his future
Story
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-made-sean-longstaff-17483681
Post by: Bimpy474 on Sunday 7 July 2019, 09:35:14 AM
Apparantly he is 'deeply upset' about Rafas departure and is looking at his future
Story
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-made-sean-longstaff-17483681
'Benitez was shocked by the club’s decision to abruptly end contract talks last Monday'
Bullshit story that also contains this little gem, Rafa was shocked was he, 2 months after he told them he was off.
Post by: TRon on Sunday 7 July 2019, 10:16:19 AM
If Man U offer £25 million he'll be in a Chopper faster than the A Team.
Whatever you think about Ashley, he doesn't usually give away highly prised assets cheap. It would take a pretty massive fee to get us to sell IMO. Longstaff isn't a potentially good player, he's already performing at the highest level, and he's still very young. The main problem with Man U's interest is going to be his agent will want a new bumper contract to keep him happy here which will test Ashley's wage structure.
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 10 July 2019, 08:35:41 PM
Post by: Chicane on Wednesday 10 July 2019, 08:39:46 PM
"It's not our fault" should be put on the club's crest.
Post by: Gonzo on Wednesday 10 July 2019, 08:57:24 PM
This will rumble on all summer, he will stay and then Steve Bruce (or whatever t*** they hire) can claim it as a massive victory for the club.
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 10 July 2019, 09:01:33 PM
Can’t see Man Utd paying 50m or even close to it.
This will rumble on all summer, he will stay and then Steve Bruce (or whatever t*** they hire) can claim it as a massive victory for the club.
He'll go Andy Carroll style
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 10 July 2019, 10:23:07 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Wednesday 10 July 2019, 10:43:10 PM
f*** me, that's the complete opposite of everything Ashley and the club do :lol:
How the hell do the papers print that s*** with a straight face without a hint of irony or sarcasm.
Post by: covmag on Thursday 11 July 2019, 07:46:22 AM
Total bullshit, manure want him they will get him.
Post by: Zero on Thursday 11 July 2019, 08:04:25 AM
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 11 July 2019, 09:33:14 AM
For his own good, I hope he leaves us ASAP.
Heard he's waiting to hear if the takever happens, before deciding. Apparently, a flatulence smell reduction underwear maker in Abu Dhabi, says it's definitely a possibility.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 11 July 2019, 05:54:24 PM
:suicide:
Post by: The Little Waster on Thursday 11 July 2019, 05:55:39 PM
Post by: chopey on Thursday 11 July 2019, 05:57:21 PM
Post by: TRon on Thursday 11 July 2019, 05:58:12 PM
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 11 July 2019, 05:58:32 PM
Ha Ha, what a fuckin mess
The undisclosed fee will go straight into Steve’s transfer chest.
Post by: Toonjam88 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 05:59:58 PM
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:02:04 PM
The stuff I'd want happen to the fat parasite...
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:02:11 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/sam-allardyce-says-turned-down-chance-to-take-vacant-newcastle-manager-job-football
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:02:38 PM
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:03:53 PM
Has to be some kind of world record.
Asset stripping selling all the top players and keeping the Premier League money.
Post by: Menace on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:03:54 PM
Charlie Adam or jay spearing as replacement? Joe Allen? Jeff Hendrick? Jack cork?
Cattermole
Post by: TRon on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:04:34 PM
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:08:18 PM
Charlie Adam or jay spearing as replacement? Joe Allen? Jeff Hendrick? Jack cork?
No need to buy anyone. Jack Colback with that clean slate baby.
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:09:02 PM
Post by: chopey on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:09:19 PM
On Sky earlier this afternoon they were saying that Newcastle acknowledged there had been talks with Man U but Longstaff was categorically not for sale.
How dare you !!!!!!! hold your tongue, are you suggesting the Newcastle hierarchy are untrustworthy
Post by: Zero on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:27:25 PM
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 11 July 2019, 06:35:54 PM
On Sky earlier this afternoon they were saying that Newcastle acknowledged there had been talks with Man U but Longstaff was categorically not for sale.Not for sale. Already sold.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 07:19:25 PM
Post by: La Parka on Thursday 11 July 2019, 08:26:26 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 08:29:21 PM
in my first ever ITK heard today that he's p*ssed off with benitez going and will probably f*** off to manyoo as a result
I for one am shocked.
Post by: ED209 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 08:35:49 PM
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 08:36:43 PM
If I was him I would already be gone. Nothing to stay for.
Someone needs to buy you first like.
Post by: ED209 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 08:42:27 PM
If I was him I would already be gone. Nothing to stay for.
Someone needs to buy you first like.
Nah you not seen escape to victory? I would give myself a career ending injury
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:32:18 PM
?s=21Man United ready to look elsewhere after learning Newcastle's jaw-dropping asking price for Sean 'Nine Prem Appearances' Longstaff #MUFC #NUFC | @DiscoMirror https://t.co/ELVE98p1vf pic.twitter.com/aKy3kmjvte
— Mirror Football (@MirrorFootball) July 11, 2019
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:33:09 PM
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:42:06 PM
?s=20Manchester United left stunned by Newcastle's £50m asking price for Sean Longstaff | @TelegraphDucker https://t.co/OfERohZ4rj
— Telegraph Football (@TeleFootball) July 11, 2019
FWIW, not written by Edwards, hence why they're not referred to as Womanchester.
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:43:54 PM
Anyway, back to not caring
Post by: Toon No9 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:44:50 PM
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:46:40 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:49:19 PM
Whether he should leave because of the mess this club is is irrelevant, how dare we want a good price for one of our players.
f***ing hate Man Utd.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 11 July 2019, 10:50:51 PM
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 11 July 2019, 11:04:31 PM
They are probably most to blame for prices this high when they asked for £80m for Ronaldo, and were paying hefty fee’s for Pogba, and countless others before him.
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 11 July 2019, 11:26:02 PM
I like Longstaff, although he was a nobody when he turned 21, made 9 league appearances, injured his knee and has now lost Rafa. There's a strong chance he's now at peak value, we know nothing about him. But I'd like to find out.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 11 July 2019, 11:39:46 PM
Man Utd keep insisting that they are the biggest club in the world. If that’s the case then they should be paying the biggest fee’s in the world, even if it is for youngsters.plenty of blame to go around on that front, Perez at real madrid and his "galacticos" chelsea and man city obviously but I think the real deal breaker in stupidity was psg with neymar
They are probably most to blame for prices this high when they asked for £80m for Ronaldo, and were paying hefty fee’s for Pogba, and countless others before him.
Post by: toontownman on Friday 12 July 2019, 01:53:33 AM
Too bad he will almost definitely regress in comparison to where decent coaches or Rafa would have taken him.
Pretty sure we will blink first and sell him for 30 but it will be undisclosed. The local rags will be told its 30 rising to 45, manure fans will he told just 20 rising to 30. Then it will be "undisclosed" so everyone's fans feels happy. Pretty much how every transfer reporting seems to work these days.
Post by: Stottie on Friday 12 July 2019, 04:22:48 AM
Watch him turn out to be absolutely horse s**** once he’s a regular in the team and the club will wish they took the £25m.
Without Rafa's system and guidance, I can see a lot of our players struggling. Rafa got the most out of many of them.
Perez at Leicester will be fine because he's surrounded by better players and got a better manager than SB.
Post by: TRon on Friday 12 July 2019, 07:14:01 AM
Watch him turn out to be absolutely horse s**** once he’s a regular in the team and the club will wish they took the £25m.
Without Rafa's system and guidance, I can see a lot of our players struggling. Rafa got the most out of many of them.
Perez at Leicester will be fine because he's surrounded by better players and got a better manager than SB.
I can see our defenders struggling most, a lot of them looked improved from their other clubs because of Rafa's meticulous organisation. I think Longstaff would look good in any team fwiw.
Post by: Collage on Friday 12 July 2019, 07:31:43 AM
Post by: covmag on Friday 12 July 2019, 07:48:26 AM
Best young player we’ve developed in years and he’s sold after 9 PL appearances. Depressing.
Hasn’t gone, chance he will stay...just a feeling.
Post by: chopey on Friday 12 July 2019, 08:05:55 AM
Post by: jackyboy on Friday 12 July 2019, 08:29:14 AM
Post by: joeyt on Friday 12 July 2019, 03:54:10 PM
?s=19Manchester United weighing up what they're willing to offer Newcastle for Sean Longstaff. He's hopeful a deal can be agreed to have the opportunity to speak to Man United. But he understands if Newcastle won’t sell and is fully committed to the club
— Kaveh Solhekol (@SkyKaveh) July 12, 2019
Post by: Ian W on Friday 12 July 2019, 03:59:13 PM
Best young player we’ve developed in years and he’s sold after 9 PL appearances. Depressing.
Hasn’t gone, chance he will stay...just a feeling.
Do you want him to stay?
He should get out ASAP. Ideally not to Man Utd, but still. Someone with a competent manager and coaching staff.
Post by: FinnMag on Friday 12 July 2019, 04:00:17 PM
So that Guardian line about him being on the verge of leaving wasn't true?s=19Manchester United weighing up what they're willing to offer Newcastle for Sean Longstaff. He's hopeful a deal can be agreed to have the opportunity to speak to Man United. But he understands if Newcastle won’t sell and is fully committed to the club
— Kaveh Solhekol (@SkyKaveh) July 12, 2019
Longstaff wants to leave? This is grim. F**** Ashley!
Post by: LV on Friday 12 July 2019, 05:23:42 PM
So that Guardian line about him being on the verge of leaving wasn't true?s=19Manchester United weighing up what they're willing to offer Newcastle for Sean Longstaff. He's hopeful a deal can be agreed to have the opportunity to speak to Man United. But he understands if Newcastle won’t sell and is fully committed to the club
— Kaveh Solhekol (@SkyKaveh) July 12, 2019
Longstaff wants to leave? This is grim. F**** Ashley!
Why wouldn’t he? I don’t blame him in the slightest under this shitshow of a regime. He’d have stayed under Rafa for sure.
Post by: covmag on Friday 12 July 2019, 05:41:28 PM
Best young player we’ve developed in years and he’s sold after 9 PL appearances. Depressing.
Hasn’t gone, chance he will stay...just a feeling.
Do you want him to stay?
He should get out ASAP. Ideally not to Man Utd, but still. Someone with a competent manager and coaching staff.
For the long term good of the club, no, I want him to leave mate.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 12 July 2019, 06:21:23 PM
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Post by: joeyt on Friday 12 July 2019, 06:23:32 PM
Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
Shearer?
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 12 July 2019, 06:26:45 PM
Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
Shearer?
We were on a par at the time.
Post by: Sean on Friday 12 July 2019, 08:38:30 PM
Anyway, Longstaff should get out for his own sake. As should a few others too.
Post by: taxfree on Friday 12 July 2019, 08:55:09 PM
Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:02:02 PM
Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
How come most Geordies have their biggest success outside of the region? Either not signing as a kid or moving on to better things. Mid 90s was a rarity.
Post by: taxfree on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:03:49 PM
Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
How come most Geordies have their biggest success outside of the region? Either not signing as a kid or moving on to better things. Mid 90s was a rarity.
Please let me dream of a bit of loyalty.
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:06:58 PM
Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
The fact we’re an absolute basket case of a club just adds to it.
Nah, not if you're born and bred Newcastle.
How come most Geordies have their biggest success outside of the region? Either not signing as a kid or moving on to better things. Mid 90s was a rarity.
I know, I know. It's because we are a nothing club that moves from one embarrassment tot he next without breaking a sweat and we seem to perpetually self harm apart from the odd occasion of shining light when beautiful people like Keegan and Robson enter our otherwise miserable sad existence.
Longstaff would be best whacking in a transfer request and running as fast as his gangly legs will take him to manage to have a career rather than turning out for Gateshead in 2 years when that fat blob Bruce ruins him and we are languishing in League 1.
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:49:04 PM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:55:28 PM
If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
Amazing that THAT would be it.
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:57:45 PM
Post by: QuakesMag on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:58:12 PM
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Friday 12 July 2019, 09:59:32 PM
Post by: sempuki on Friday 12 July 2019, 10:00:21 PM
Really? Should be absolutely it after Rafa left. How many uninvited fistings does it take to finally turn around every supporter? Got to be an asymptote somewhere.We've all been fisted - I guess some like it?
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 13 July 2019, 02:38:17 AM
If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
For your own sake i hope they sell him.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 13 July 2019, 02:47:05 AM
If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
So if Longstaff stays you are still in?
Some of our fans man, honestly what the f***.
Post by: covmag on Saturday 13 July 2019, 04:21:53 AM
If the fat c*** sells Longstaff that's it for me. If they genuinely wanted to keep him they would have quoted a minimum of £100m transfer fee. If he goes for £50m we will live to regret it massively. I would happily ^^^^^^ the fat c*** if i got the chance!!!
f***ing hell man, so you are happy to have Ashley f*** you regardless?
Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 13 July 2019, 12:20:05 PM
Even if you’re a fully functioning club, if Man Utd or a top club come calling, you’d want to go. See Cole, Rooney, Yorke, etc.
Shearer?
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Post by: Fitzgerald on Thursday 18 July 2019, 12:43:00 PM
:lol:
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 18 July 2019, 12:43:50 PM
Sky sports: We’ve been told Longstaff is excited at the prospect of Bruce taking charge, and is desperate to impress the new manager and become a Newcastle regular to progress his fledgling career
:lol:
Solskjaer one way, Bruce the other
What a choice :lol:
Post by: Fitzgerald on Thursday 18 July 2019, 05:53:57 PM
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 18 July 2019, 06:07:48 PM
:lol: prefer Bruce tbf over that baby faced little c***Cut off your hand or your foot? Still a no brainer given the quality he would he playing with and European football. Could see us keeping him to January or next summer though.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 18 July 2019, 06:20:20 PM
Sky sports: We’ve been told Longstaff is excited at the prospect of Bruce taking charge, and is desperate to impress the new manager and become a Newcastle regular to progress his fledgling career
:lol:
“We’ve been told” :memelol: that’s club-produced propaganda at its finest
Post by: sbnufc on Thursday 18 July 2019, 06:22:07 PM
Obviously
Post by: TRon on Thursday 18 July 2019, 08:26:34 PM
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 18 July 2019, 09:55:23 PM
and I remember going to reserve games way back when and suggesting to my mates that reserve team players Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne would play for England one day....they all ridiculed me but I was proved absolutely right a few years later
Post by: poor on Thursday 18 July 2019, 09:56:28 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 18 July 2019, 11:32:13 PM
If we have modicum of common sense we should offer him a massive pay rise with a £150m buy out clause. That's how highly I rate Longstaff
and I remember going to reserve games way back when and suggesting to my mates that reserve team players Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne would play for England one day....they all ridiculed me but I was proved absolutely right a few years later
Get a load this Nostradamus fecker over here.
Post by: covmag on Friday 19 July 2019, 05:27:12 AM
If we have modicum of common sense we should offer him a massive pay rise with a £150m buy out clause. That's how highly I rate Longstaff
and I remember going to reserve games way back when and suggesting to my mates that reserve team players Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne would play for England one day....they all ridiculed me but I was proved absolutely right a few years later
Ring the FCB , you may get a job marra
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 19 July 2019, 05:30:10 AM
Post by: Minhosa on Friday 19 July 2019, 09:36:41 AM
Post by: Kanji on Friday 19 July 2019, 12:10:27 PM
Post by: covmag on Friday 19 July 2019, 12:15:00 PM
Then all hope for the masses is gone O0
Post by: steve_69 on Friday 19 July 2019, 12:18:18 PM
I'm sure his agent is negotiating improved terms with the club but knowing the way we operate we'll delay and then offer him peanuts.
If i was him i'd want out.
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 19 July 2019, 12:20:54 PM
Longstaff is still on the same contract he was on when he was playing for the reserves. He needed to make one more first team appearance to activate an improved contract but got injured before that kicked in.
I'm sure his agent is negotiating improved terms with the club but knowing the way we operate we'll delay and then offer him peanuts.
If i was him i'd want out.
Somebody check who is Snodgrass's PR representative.
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 12:44:55 PM
Manchester United 'plotting new £30m offer for Sean Longstaff' according to new report.
— The Chronicle (@ChronicleNUFC) July 23, 2019
Latest: https://t.co/WEtKuq18La pic.twitter.com/fUvEh9bmL9
Post by: Heake on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 12:47:01 PM
Manchester United 'plotting new £30m offer for Sean Longstaff' according to new report.
— The Chronicle (@ChronicleNUFC) July 23, 2019
Latest: https://t.co/WEtKuq18La pic.twitter.com/fUvEh9bmL9
id bet all the denim in the world Mike wont sell for under £40m
Post by: Rafalove on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 01:51:42 PM
Post by: Chris_R on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 02:06:51 PM
Don’t get why we should sell so low. If we think the lad has ability, who gives a f*** if he’s only played quarter of a season.
Because he'll possibly regress under Bruce and look s***. Many players will be at their maximin value right now.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 02:13:43 PM
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 02:16:05 PM
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 02:16:11 PM
Don’t get why we should sell so low. If we think the lad has ability, who gives a f*** if he’s only played quarter of a season.
Because he'll possibly regress under Bruce and look s***. Many players will be at their maximin value right now.
Regardless of Bruce, I think Ashley is the type who would rather take the profit now if the price is high enough. Yes Longstaff could well be worth a lot more, but Ashley is the type who will think that's worth nothing unless it's in the bank. Then instruct Nixon to find an unknown replacement for a quarter of the amount.
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 02:32:42 PM
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 02:54:30 PM
Post by: Collage on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 08:51:28 PM
Manchester United 'plotting new £30m offer for Sean Longstaff' according to new report.
— The Chronicle (@ChronicleNUFC) July 23, 2019
Latest: https://t.co/WEtKuq18La pic.twitter.com/fUvEh9bmL9
”plotting”
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Drevil_million_dollars.jpg)
Post by: LV on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 08:59:10 PM
Manchester United 'plotting new £30m offer for Sean Longstaff' according to new report.
— The Chronicle (@ChronicleNUFC) July 23, 2019
Latest: https://t.co/WEtKuq18La pic.twitter.com/fUvEh9bmL9
”plotting”
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Drevil_million_dollars.jpg)
Shall we sign Sean Longstaff? Yes ok.
/plotting
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 08:59:58 PM
Post by: LV on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 09:00:44 PM
Their CEO seems as crap as ours
Ha. Not possible.
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 09:21:19 PM
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 09:21:49 PM
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 10:16:16 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 10:23:15 PM
Their CEO seems as crap as ourshe's good at getting random companies to be man utds noodle partner in china or wherever but he's been god awful on the transfer front.
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 23 July 2019, 10:23:57 PM
So all of you guys who are in the burn it all down camp, do you all want Longstaff to get hurt so it f***s up Ashley making a sale and stunts the local kid's career?
partridge shrug
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 04:06:23 AM
So all of you guys who are in the burn it all down camp, do you all want Longstaff to get hurt so it f***s up Ashley making a sale and stunts the local kid's career?
Guys :rolleyes:
Post by: toontownman on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 04:11:59 AM
Post by: Pons Alias on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 10:59:30 AM
Post by: chicken little on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 01:16:00 PM
I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 01:42:43 PM
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 01:48:57 PM
I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 01:49:44 PM
I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
Yeah. Not sure I'd be wishing serious physical harm on a group of lads for playing for our team.
*edit* and also the gay orgy bit.
Post by: toontownman on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 01:54:07 PM
Bad experience?I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
Yeah. Not sure I'd be wishing serious physical harm on a group of lads for playing for our team.
*edit* and also the gay orgy bit.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 05:16:20 PM
I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
that's a good point actually, they're not far off the same age so why would we accept less when you consider the english tax
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 05:54:49 PM
I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
that's a good point actually, they're not far off the same age so why would we accept less when you consider the english tax
I'm still not sure why English players fetch such a premium. It's not like teams struggle to fill the home grown quota.
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 05:55:51 PM
Bad experience?I want all of our players to be hurt in a training ground incident so that none of them can play for years, for Steve Bruce and his team to all slip a disc during a gay orgy and the ground freehold to be sold to JD sports.
bit weird
Yeah. Not sure I'd be wishing serious physical harm on a group of lads for playing for our team.
*edit* and also the gay orgy bit.
Was that a question or an offer?
Post by: Thumbheed on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 06:11:04 PM
I think we meant it when we said at least £50m.
We got £30m for Ayoze, and Longstaff is twice the player.
I agree. If we can get £30m for Perez, we can get £50m for a young, English, genuinely talented player. Sounds wrong, but we've just dropped £40 mil on someone who is hardly a guaranteed thing.
that's a good point actually, they're not far off the same age so why would we accept less when you consider the english tax
He could be worth £50m. To be honest I actually think he could be worth more because influence on a game is something you cant teach but I think the comparison are redundant due to the fact that hes not played enough.
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 06:15:26 PM
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 10:44:56 PM
Steve Bruce has told Manchester United they have no chance of signing Sean Longstaff. “That won’t happen. I’m very confident," the new Newcastle boss assured supporters. “We don’t want to sell our best young players, that’s for sure.” #nufc [Mirror]
Post by: Wallsendmag on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 10:57:35 PM
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 24 July 2019, 11:03:10 PM
Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Eh how can you say that Mike is his best mate now he wouldn't lie to him "he's been as straight as a die with me"
Post by: GideonShandy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 12:43:44 AM
Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Eh how can you say that Mike is his best mate now he wouldn't lie to him "he's been as straight as a die with me"
Str88888888 as a banana, tbh.
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Thursday 25 July 2019, 12:50:23 AM
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 25 July 2019, 01:58:00 AM
Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Eh how can you say that Mike is his best mate now he wouldn't lie to him "he's been as straight as a die with me"
"so far" :naughty: :azn:
Post by: TRon on Thursday 25 July 2019, 07:12:57 AM
Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Nevertheless, Ashley won't want to make him look stupid so early in his term as manager. It does suggest that we aren't actively looking to sell Longstaff yet, although obviously if a big enough offer comes in, any player is for sale.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 25 July 2019, 07:18:50 AM
Bruce is in no position to offer guarantees such as that.
Nevertheless, Ashley won't want to make him look stupid so early in his term as manager. It does suggest that we aren't actively looking to sell Longstaff yet, although obviously if a big enough offer comes in, any player is for sale.
he'll probably look at maguire going for £80m or whatever and think it'll be a piece of p*ss for longstaff to be as good as he was last season for the whole of this one
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 08:04:48 AM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 25 July 2019, 08:23:50 AM
We're never paying £50m for Longstaff so if that's the price, you can all relax. It's not happening.
aye you'll be paying £90m next summer m8
Post by: covmag on Thursday 25 July 2019, 08:41:04 AM
He’s staying.
Shame
Post by: Yerdas El Savon on Thursday 25 July 2019, 08:52:43 AM
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 09:48:56 AM
They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Post by: Boo Boy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 09:51:13 AM
They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 09:55:54 AM
They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
Post by: Boo Boy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 09:58:22 AM
Pogba & Lukaku are still the bad apples that need moving on. They won't of course and end up doing their usual stuff.They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
Post by: Rompe on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:02:53 AM
They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
A poor reshape, but then again Solskjær is a crap manager and shouldn't be anywhere near your club.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:03:15 AM
What's their usual stuff by the way? Scoring goals and getting assists? :lol: Pogba was incredibly productive last season. He's just a bellend.
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:03:34 AM
They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
A poor reshape, but then again Solskjær is a crap manager and shouldn't be anywhere near your club.
Based on?
Post by: Shadow Puppets on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:08:15 AM
Certain to stay now, Manure don’t f*** around, if they really wanted him the deal would have been done by now.
He’s staying.
Shame
You're a strange character.
Post by: covmag on Thursday 25 July 2019, 11:14:43 AM
Certain to stay now, Manure don’t f*** around, if they really wanted him the deal would have been done by now.
He’s staying.
Shame
You're a strange character.
Cheers, you been on glue ? If not , have a fork off from me . O0
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 25 July 2019, 01:12:19 PM
They do f*** around, mind. Maguire, Bruno, Longstaff. Struggling to get the deals done.
They took their time with Wan-Bissaka as well.
Never submitted a bid for Fernandes or Longstaff.
Seem to be doing their bidding in the press hoping it unsettles the players and gets them to put transfer requests in. in the past Man utd wanted a player they went and paid the price and got them. Ole said he was going to reshape the squad but he hasn't shipped anyone out yet. Clock is ticking for him.
Reshaping the squad doesn't mean buying a load of players.
Herrera and Valencia have left. We've brought in James and Wan-Bissaka. AWB is a great signing.
Looks like he'll be giving a lot of youth the chance this year too. Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Chong etc.
I'd say the above counts as a reshape in the space of a few months.
Read “James” as James Rodriguez and thought WOT?! How’d I miss that.
Post by: TRon on Thursday 25 July 2019, 01:19:15 PM
We're never paying £50m for Longstaff so if that's the price, you can all relax. It's not happening.
Good. Would much rather have Longstaff than £50m. He's got everything he needs to be a top premiership midfielder. In fact some would argue he already is one.
Stick yer £50m up yer Solkjaarse. :)
Post by: Tooj on Thursday 25 July 2019, 01:40:48 PM
Can anybody fill me in a bit more on Longstaff and what he's got that's making him being touted for such money? This isn't me being obtuse I just haven't seen anywhere near enough of what I'd like to have of him.
Post by: chopey on Thursday 25 July 2019, 02:14:36 PM
Genuinely switched off towards the end of last season to try and distance myself emotionally for when Rafa's leaving happened.
Can anybody fill me in a bit more on Longstaff and what he's got that's making him being touted for such money? This isn't me being obtuse I just haven't seen anywhere near enough of what I'd like to have of him.
His last few games before his injury he totally schooled a lot of midfielders that had played in the premiership for years, he has an eye for a pass, long or short can tackle and can score goals.
If Vieira and Scholes had a child it would be Longstaff, however I don't know how he would cope over a full season.
Post by: Collage on Thursday 25 July 2019, 02:30:10 PM
Post by: The Little Waster on Thursday 25 July 2019, 03:09:29 PM
Post by: HTT on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:13:48 PM
By all accounts he’s a level headed lad who is just hungry to play. Preferably for the Toon, I also think moving away would be a culture shock for him and not something he’d want to just happen at this stage of his career if helped. I’m sure his people who some are family members will want to get him a better deal out if this if he stays though. And rightly so.
Long term, he will have to move for his own good, short term I don’t think it would harm him to stay here and establish himself for a season or two. It may actually benefit him because I don’t think he’d start for Man Utd every game. I suppose he’d be confident in his own abilities enough to justify to himself at least leaving all he knows for the unknown. It’s Man Utd after all.
My gut feeling is Ashley is holding out for as much money as possible until the last minute like with Carroll who he was always going to sell once he knew how serious Liverpool were. When it gets to that point, money talks in the end and always wins, especially with Ashley.
If he doesn’t leave, if he carries on from where he left off, if someone doesn’t pay the asking price now, they will soon. Maybe even more. Man Utd rate him highly it seems and see him as a modern day Carrick and someone who can fill that kind of role he did so well for them.
It wouldn't surprise me either if Bruce was to play a part in any deal as a connected person at both clubs, for a small fee of course...
Either way Longstaff is money in the bank to Ashley, someone to sell for big money or keep and save having to spend some money.
I predict he’ll leave on the final day of the transfer window for just over what Carroll went for, rising to more based on appearances, England caps etc. We may even get a player in return thrown in, on loan or as part of the deal.
Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
Post by: chopey on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:17:23 PM
Post by: HTT on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:49:38 PM
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
Post by: Gonzo on Thursday 25 July 2019, 10:50:20 PM
His passing range is decent. Nowhere near Shelvey but his other attributes make him far more vital in keeping the team tick over.
The fact he played about 40 games for Blackpool the season before has stood to him. He’s ready.
Once he gets into his stride this season, 50m will seem cheap.
Post by: toontownman on Thursday 25 July 2019, 11:04:38 PM
He’s not the fastest but always seems to have space on the ball. He’s intelligent, uses his feet well and he has a great engine.Will tear it up for "United" this year.
His passing range is decent. Nowhere near Shelvey but his other attributes make him far more vital in keeping the team tick over.
The fact he played about 40 games for Blackpool the season before has stood to him. He’s ready.
Once he gets into his stride this season, 50m will seem cheap.
Post by: Cronky on Thursday 25 July 2019, 11:26:17 PM
I rate him highly I have to say, he’s a proper footballer as Souness would say and his game belies his age and inexperience. He’s never going to be outstanding or all action, but he’s going to be critical for whenever he plays for, on and off the ball, going forward and in front if the defence. If he added goals to his game...
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
No no, you should listen to your elders more. ;)
Tony Green is my all-time favourite, with Gazza running him close. Len White was before my time.
I've such high hopes of Longstaff. He doesn't seem to have a weakness in his all round game. Whatever the situation, however the ball comes to him, he can be trusted to do something with it. That's a priceless asset in a midfielder. I've seen good players go - Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza - but letting this lad go at this stage would be the biggest heartache.
Post by: GideonShandy on Thursday 25 July 2019, 11:33:48 PM
Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
Not sure you've got your geography quite right here, tbh.
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 26 July 2019, 04:18:51 AM
Post by: Tsunami on Friday 26 July 2019, 07:14:17 AM
Post by: HawK on Friday 26 July 2019, 08:11:21 AM
Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
Not sure you've got your geography quite right here, tbh.
Wow not even one of the players is from Mexico :lol:
Post by: mickthemagpie on Friday 26 July 2019, 08:14:50 AM
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 26 July 2019, 09:02:37 AM
Sanchez for 9 months anyone? With his fellow countrymen now gone, Almiron would welcome a fellow native from Mexico for company.
Not sure you've got your geography quite right here, tbh.
For future reference, it’s HTT’s favourite joke.
Post by: HawK on Friday 26 July 2019, 01:31:22 PM
Post by: simonsays on Friday 26 July 2019, 01:37:51 PM
My dad said Len White was phenomenal
My dad says the exact same thing pretty much whenever we talk about strikers
Post by: Kanji on Friday 26 July 2019, 02:37:27 PM
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 26 July 2019, 04:27:55 PM
I thought he left? Farewell leaving post et al?
Flounced you mean?
Post by: HTT on Friday 26 July 2019, 04:51:58 PM
I thought he left? Farewell leaving post et al?
Been on holiday in Mexico.
Post by: James on Friday 26 July 2019, 04:54:38 PM
I thought he left? Farewell leaving post et al?
Been on holiday in Mexico.
That was Spain mate
Post by: TRon on Friday 26 July 2019, 05:09:27 PM
I rate him highly I have to say, he’s a proper footballer as Souness would say and his game belies his age and inexperience. He’s never going to be outstanding or all action, but he’s going to be critical for whenever he plays for, on and off the ball, going forward and in front if the defence. If he added goals to his game...
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
Your old timer pals think Pardew was alright because he was a PFM, same way as Bruce will be, or Pulis or Warnock for that matter. They probably witter on about how the game is too soft these days, the balls are too light, and real men don't wear gloves. It's great that they will appreciate Longstaff, truly one of the best homegrown talents we've seen since Gazza. But the same blokes probably think the sun shines out of Colback's arse as well.
Post by: Pandamninator on Sunday 28 July 2019, 08:22:14 AM
I rate him highly I have to say, he’s a proper footballer as Souness would say and his game belies his age and inexperience. He’s never going to be outstanding or all action, but he’s going to be critical for whenever he plays for, on and off the ball, going forward and in front if the defence. If he added goals to his game...
It was my uncle’s funeral a week Monday gone and a lot of his mates are old timers, they played county football, had trials with Newcastle, could have been our number 9, but for this or that, proper old school Geordie blokes who have been going and watching the Toon dating back to the 40s and 50s right upto now and they all said in Longstaff when they watched him, they were only really fully confident the club had a real player on the books and something special like him the same way they felt with a handful of players past, namely Tony Green, Gazza, Len White and Beardsley.
It was a toss up as to who was the best they ever seen in our colours, White or Green. Green won by a tiny margin, White by all accounts was better than Milburn, Supermac and a better footballer than Shearer. Gazza and Beardsley were considered lesser players for leaving too early, Newcastle not even seeing them at half their best. But worthy enough to be up there with these old codgers.
I’m chuffed to say by the way, a lot of those old timers have either jacked it in, won’t be renewing or those that have or will would join in a boycott of the Arsenal game.
They are a weird bunch though, they thought Pardew did alright, like Bruce and think he’ll do a good job and we’ll play some nice stuff and despite acknowledging how good Rafa was, they didn’t like his football and thought if the owner and manager were not going to accept each other’s way of doing things, it’s best for the team he left for someone who would. Unless Rafa was going to buy out Ashley...
Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted regarding Longstaff after all...
Again, he’s a proper footballer that much is obvious, he’s so much better than Colback, it’s scary to think how many games the former has played at this level and indeed how the f*** someone so clearly lacking what Longstaff possesses ever made it in the first place. We all know why he’s on our books of course, because he was cheap and runs about leaving a foot in.
The embodiment of Souness, Big Sam, Pardew, Carver and Bruce all in one, so cheap if he was a present or gift, it would cost more than he’s worth to wrap. Ashley’s kind of buy. There are watches with more quality up for prize hooking a duck at the hoppings than in Colback.
No no, you should listen to your elders more. ;)
Tony Green is my all-time favourite, with Gazza running him close. Len White was before my time.
I've such high hopes of Longstaff. He doesn't seem to have a weakness in his all round game. Whatever the situation, however the ball comes to him, he can be trusted to do something with it. That's a priceless asset in a midfielder. I've seen good players go - Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza - but letting this lad go at this stage would be the biggest heartache.
And yet, i'd bet my house you'd be on here justifying it within 30 minutes.
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 28 July 2019, 08:32:57 AM
Post by: covmag on Sunday 28 July 2019, 08:37:52 AM
Interesting how Matty Longstaff was the only one out of the youngsters (Watts, Cass, Allen, Sorensen et al) to feature at Preston. I wonder if Bruce has told him they'll play together within 6-12 months as a way to keep him engaged.
Genuinely never seen this lad, any good?
Post by: Cronky on Sunday 28 July 2019, 10:11:18 AM
Interesting how Matty Longstaff was the only one out of the youngsters (Watts, Cass, Allen, Sorensen et al) to feature at Preston. I wonder if Bruce has told him they'll play together within 6-12 months as a way to keep him engaged.
Genuinely never seen this lad, any good?
Only seen him for the 10 or so minutes that he was on against West Ham, but he looked good.
A few months ago, someone within the club told me that they have high hopes of him.
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 29 July 2019, 08:14:15 AM
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
Post by: covmag on Monday 29 July 2019, 09:03:23 AM
If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
I’m not so sure, Rafa had him full of confidence, SB will not have him and others at the same level.
Post by: Froggy on Monday 29 July 2019, 09:09:05 AM
If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
You have to stop saying Manure man. :lol: So cringe.
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 29 July 2019, 09:17:23 AM
Post by: Zero on Monday 29 July 2019, 09:23:32 AM
Post by: HawK on Monday 29 July 2019, 10:08:07 AM
If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
You have to stop saying Manure man. :lol: So cringe.
It's as bad as poocastle imo
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 29 July 2019, 10:12:58 AM
If Manure are getting Milinkovic-Savic then you’d think Longstaff will be staying. Can’t imagine anyone else paying Ashley’s price for him.
Which will probably significantly improve the Ashley FC midfield and go a long way towards keeping them up :anguish:
You have to stop saying Manure man. :lol: So cringe.
My pettiness knows no bounds - Manure, Citeh, Chel$ki, Wet Spam, Spuds, The Arse, f***ing Liverpool. f*** them all :lol:
Post by: Froggy on Monday 29 July 2019, 10:14:24 AM
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:24:41 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:28:20 PM
This guy is very good
What Froggy ? nah he's toilet.
Post by: chopey on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:35:48 PM
This guy is very good
What Froggy ? nah he's toilet.
I think Froggy might end up seeing more of him than us this season.
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:38:14 PM
This guy is very good
What Froggy ? nah he's toilet.
I think Froggy might end up seeing more of him than us this season.
Very true :lol:
Post by: Fitzgerald on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:40:08 PM
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:45:21 PM
Na he won't like. Not from his armchair in Co Durham which is where most manure fans are fromDeary me
Post by: Fitzgerald on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:46:21 PM
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:47:28 PM
Well it's true. There Ireland and Essex
The Essex bit i can testify to as being fairly accurate.
Post by: gdm on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:50:44 PM
Post by: Fitzgerald on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 09:52:39 PM
GDM is relentless
FYP
Post by: gdm on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 10:00:08 PM
GDM is relentless
FYP
You are fooling no one. Same annoying s**** repetitive patter
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 10:08:05 PM
Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Wednesday 31 July 2019, 12:21:21 AM
Na he won't like. Not from his armchair in Co Durham which is where most manure fans are from
:hmm:
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 31 July 2019, 05:54:36 AM
Post by: Fitzgerald on Wednesday 31 July 2019, 07:11:50 AM
£50 million.not a penny less.
Have you got split personality!? What does it matter 5m or 50m!? Only goes to that fat c***. You even say this yourself so strange how you are wanting 50m now
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Thursday 1 August 2019, 10:16:41 PM
They know after a season in the Premier league he is going to be worth that + if he has a good season.
And then what? We start again with probably his brother (if he is good enough) and also the players brought in being sold off.
So at what point do we go forward as a club? without the odd fluke we are nothing but a shop.
Post by: toon25 on Friday 2 August 2019, 12:25:09 AM
The problem is that any money coming in won’t be reinvested. So if they do happen to stumble across a player like Longstaff, despite the utter embarrassment we have of a youth system, there’s not even a conveyor belt to ensure that another youngster will come through. We’ve had two decent players come through in 10 years ffs. And even then one of them has only had a handful of PL games.
Post by: covmag on Friday 2 August 2019, 05:20:24 AM
Still not convinced this lad will go,part of me wants him to.sad
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 8 August 2019, 08:24:31 AM
Post by: chopey on Thursday 8 August 2019, 08:43:21 AM
The express and the mail, both Manchester based wont let the Sean Longstaff story go. The keep reporting that Man U will try to get him today, despite Bruce and Ashley stating he is simply not for sale, and are now reporting that if Man U don't get him now (for £50m) they will have to pay £70m next summer. I say that if Manu are prepared to pay £50m for him today, he will be worth double that if he has an injury free season with us and also gets an England call up. Hopefully Ashley will agree if they come back in with a £50m bid today.
£35 Million Andy Carroll say Hi
Post by: Sean on Thursday 8 August 2019, 09:51:41 AM
The express and the mail, both Manchester based wont let the Sean Longstaff story go. The keep reporting that Man U will try to get him today, despite Bruce and Ashley stating he is simply not for sale, and are now reporting that if Man U don't get him now (for £50m) they will have to pay £70m next summer. I say that if Manu are prepared to pay £50m for him today, he will be worth double that if he has an injury free season with us and also gets an England call up. Hopefully Ashley will agree if they come back in with a £50m bid today.
:lol: :lol:
Post by: chopey on Thursday 8 August 2019, 11:57:30 AM
Post by: Paullow on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:17:57 PM
So is every club bar 4 or 5 (your Man City, Manure, Barcelona, etc).
The problem is that any money coming in won’t be reinvested. So if they do happen to stumble across a player like Longstaff, despite the utter embarrassment we have of a youth system, there’s not even a conveyor belt to ensure that another youngster will come through. We’ve had two decent players come through in 10 years ffs. And even then one of them has only had a handful of PL games.
I think there is a difference. Yes, players will often move on if a top club comes and turns heads, or a club simply can't turn down the offer, like Coutinho at Liverpool, and more recently Maguire at Leicester, but I genuinely don't believe Leicester bought Harry a couple of years ago, simply to sell at a profit a year or two later, whereas it really is the case for us. If Joelinton and ASM are still with us in 2 years, certainly no more than 3, then they won't have been as successful as both they or the club had hoped. I think it's quite feasable to think that Maguire could have stayed at Leicester longer than he did.
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:20:15 PM
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:39:57 PM
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 8 August 2019, 12:43:28 PM
There is nothing at NUFC that is not for sale.
Aside from NUFC itself.
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 14 August 2019, 12:06:09 PM
Cabbage heed will insist on playing Shelvey through the middle, edging out Longstaff to RCM/LCM where he'll be miles less effective as he'll have far less time on the ball and be under far more pressure to distribute it meaning more mistakes and a drop in confidence.
TL:DR - Bruce will kill his career.
Post by: Papavasiliou on Wednesday 14 August 2019, 12:15:48 PM
I'm going to take a punt and say this summer was his 'Tiote to Man Utd' moment and the fat lad will be devastated to have not sold him for big money when he had the chance.
Cabbage heed will insist on playing Shelvey through the middle, edging out Longstaff to RCM/LCM where he'll be miles less effective as he'll have far less time on the ball and be under far more pressure to distribute it meaning more mistakes and a drop in confidence.
TL:DR - Bruce will kill his career.
Aye, completely agree.
His potential career trajectory under Bruce is far lower than under Rafa. We'll never get an offer bigger than that one.
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 14 August 2019, 12:18:41 PM
There is nothing at NUFC that is not for sale.
Aside from NUFC itself.
:thup: :lol:
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 14 August 2019, 12:20:18 PM
I'm going to take a punt and say this summer was his 'Tiote to Man Utd' moment and the fat lad will be devastated to have not sold him for big money when he had the chance.
Cabbage heed will insist on playing Shelvey through the middle, edging out Longstaff to RCM/LCM where he'll be miles less effective as he'll have far less time on the ball and be under far more pressure to distribute it meaning more mistakes and a drop in confidence.
TL:DR - Bruce will kill his career.
Aye, completely agree.
His potential career trajectory under Bruce is far lower than under Rafa. We'll never get an offer bigger than that one.
Same as all of them tbf. Schar made more mistakes on Sunday than he did during the whole Rafa reign.
Post by: Fitzgerald on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:07:31 PM
Post by: Sean on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:13:39 PM
I see this c*** has came out and said we all need forget about Rafa and to get behind Bruce. What a w*****. Another Ashley minion. Stick this w***** on the list
Give him a break, he's on peanuts and saying a few nice things about Mike and/or his puppet Steve is going to be a condition of him getting a new (still low paid) deal.
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:15:13 PM
Post by: Sean on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:22:18 PM
Shortstaff was sitting with Bishop and thumb man last game wasn't he?
Yep, Bruce also dropped/rested Sean that day. I think True Faith commented that it may have had something to do with contract negotiations. Our regime is as malevolent as they come so I think there's probably something shady in all of this.
Post by: Fitzgerald on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:24:49 PM
Post by: Greg on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:26:54 PM
Post by: Fitzgerald on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:27:36 PM
Hardly like he's working a 9-5 and at risk of getting sacked ffs. He could say whatever he wants and still get paid. He's a high value asset for the club he could call Ashley a c*** in the media and nothing would happen. Coming out with that s*** about forgetting Rafa and moving on with Bruce. Sicknening s***
On the list he goes
Post by: Sean on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:29:21 PM
We've been through this before. Just don't say anything in that case
He probably HAS to say it to get a new deal. This is Ashley he's/we're dealing with.
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:32:01 PM
I see this c*** has came out and said we all need forget about Rafa and to get behind Bruce. What a w*****. Another Ashley minion. Stick this w***** on the list
Was it the royal 'We'?
Or was it directed at the fans?
I've got no problem with any professional saying they need to focus on their job. I'll assume from your outrage that it was clearly directed at the fans.
Post by: Conjo on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:33:14 PM
Player in toeing party line of people that pay his wages shocker.
Look at Dubs interview a while ago for the blue print on how to do it without pissing off either the fans nor the regime. It's not rocket science and Longstaff should know better.
Post by: Fitzgerald on Sunday 25 August 2019, 02:33:33 PM