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Anyone kept watching?

 

He’s totally out of depth and has a lack of respect for anyone. He’s brushing legitimate concerns aside without addressing them, appears to not have a fucking clue about what’s going on, nor show that he cares.

As I’ve previously said, he’s there to sign sponsorship and broadcast deals, not run an organisation.

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Nearly 10.5k have signed that petition. Just shows this place is not a true reflection on the feelings of nufc twitter.

 

There you go.

 

Do their opinions not matter? Sure more people have signed that petition in less than a day than are signed up members to NUST.

 

Didn't say they didn't, but NUFC twitter is not even close to be representative of the fan base. Just ask anyone involved in any of the protest work be it Pardew, Ashley stuff, walk outs etc.

 

What's NUST got to do with it?

 

It’s a large enough group of people to be taken seriously And comparable in numbers to NUST, so should not dismissed or looked down upon. Some will also be members of NUST.

 

People on here have called it pathetic, for me looking down upon fellow NUFC fans for venting their frustration in a calm manner is way beyond pathetic.

 

I haven't.

 

But I haven't signed it as I think it's a little dangerous asking for a solution now - if people want the takeover then we simply have to wait until the Premier League approve it. There are clearly incredibly complex issues they are considering.

 

Pushing them to do it quicker - while unlikely to have any influence - if it did, would surely more likely result in a refusal and us being stuck with Ashley going forward?

 

The NUST letter on behalf of their members might have no impact either, in fact it probably will not, but it was a very strong point by point legal rebuttal of some of the nonsense claims by Qatar re the WTO report and others that have written to the Premier League, undertaken by a specialist barrister from 3 Hare Court Chambers and was sent directly to Richard Masters by legal counsel.

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Mackem MP asking questions about us now.

 

 

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Masters: "No comment" basically.

 

What did they ask?

 

She said she was an MP for Sunderland and asked if NUFC supporters (some of which were her constituents) should have been keep informed, or at least given some sort of update, given its now been ongoing for 3 months.

 

Masters basically said as its (the O&D Test) a confidential process, he couldn't give any sort of updates.

Was it Bridget ?
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The NUST letter on behalf of their members might have no impact either, in fact it probably will not, but it was a very strong point by point legal rebuttal of some of the nonsense claims by Qatar re the WTO report and others that have written to the Premier League, undertaken by a specialist barrister from 3 Hare Court Chambers and was sent directly to Richard Masters by legal counsel.

 

Genuinely, what expertise or knowledge do you have to make that sort of assessment?

 

How can you be confident that it wasn't absolute drivel that immediately went into the shredder?

 

Bear in mind you can get a solicitor to put forward the case that 2+2=5 as long as you pay them for it (and I can't imagine the NUST are swimming in cash so I'm sure it was a quickie job from the brief).

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But I haven't signed it as I think it's a little dangerous asking for a solution now - if people want the takeover then we simply have to wait until the Premier League approve it. There are clearly incredibly complex issues they are considering.

Someone should tell the same to our Manager.

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I don't see how you can argue with that; painful though it is, fans have no right to know the ins and outs of the process; it's almost certainly in everybody's interests that this extremely contentious matter is dealt with in the strictest confidentiality.

 

I think we're conflating 'deserving to know what's going on' with 'deserving to be rid of Mike Ashley'. We're only aching to know the finer details of this colossal deal because we happen to have a preference regarding the outcome. In a business sense though, us fans are totally independent to the process. I also think that, assuming the decision is currently on a knife-edge: if the PL is susceptible to any pressure from the wider public (which I doubt they are), it'll nudge them into making the easiest of the two decisions - which wouldn't necessarily be to approve it.

 

I think we just need to collectively accept that we could still be here in several months' time and get used to the idea that we need to be patient. If you offered me a new regime and a return to being a fan of an ambitious footballing entity - but with the caveat that I'd have to wait until Christmas for it to come to pass - I would still snap your hands off.

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The NUST letter on behalf of their members might have no impact either, in fact it probably will not, but it was a very strong point by point legal rebuttal of some of the nonsense claims by Qatar re the WTO report and others that have written to the Premier League, undertaken by a specialist barrister from 3 Hare Court Chambers and was sent directly to Richard Masters by legal counsel.

 

Genuinely, what expertise or knowledge do you have to make that sort of assessment?

 

How can you be confident that it wasn't absolute drivel that immediately went into the shredder?

 

Bear in mind you can get a solicitor to put forward the case that 2+2=5 as long as you pay them for it (and I can't imagine the NUST are swimming in cash so I'm sure it was a quickie job from the brief).

 

Keyser appeared and vanished immediately again with his usual crap I see  :lol:

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Masters' response to Elliot's questioning was entirely appropriate and changes nothing.

 

My main takeaway from that exchange was that Elliot at least put the fans on Masters' radar, highlighting that it's the fans that are suffering at the moment.

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I don't see how you can argue with that; painful though it is, fans have no right to know the ins and outs of the process; it's almost certainly in everybody's interests that this extremely contentious matter is dealt with in the strictest confidentiality.

 

I think we're conflating 'deserving to know what's going on' with 'deserving to be rid of Mike Ashley'. We're only aching to know the finer details of this colossal deal because we happen to have a preference regarding the outcome. In a business sense though, us fans are totally independent to the process. I also think that, assuming the decision is currently on a knife-edge: if the PL is susceptible to any pressure from the wider public (which I doubt they are), it'll nudge them into making the easiest of the two decisions - which wouldn't necessarily be to approve it.

 

I think we just need to collectively accept that we could still be here in several months' time and get used to the idea that we need to be patient. If you offered me a new regime and a return to being a fan of an ambitious footballing entity - but with the caveat that I'd have to wait until Christmas for it to come to pass - I would still snap your hands off.

 

Good post.

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Some Scottish MP trying his best to scupper the deal.

 

:lol: He really is.  Looks like he is pissing Masters off too with his relentless questioning.

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The NUST letter on behalf of their members might have no impact either, in fact it probably will not, but it was a very strong point by point legal rebuttal of some of the nonsense claims by Qatar re the WTO report and others that have written to the Premier League, undertaken by a specialist barrister from 3 Hare Court Chambers and was sent directly to Richard Masters by legal counsel.

 

Genuinely, what expertise or knowledge do you have to make that sort of assessment?

 

How can you be confident that it wasn't absolute drivel that immediately went into the shredder?

 

Bear in mind you can get a solicitor to put forward the case that 2+2=5 as long as you pay them for it (and I can't imagine the NUST are swimming in cash so I'm sure it was a quickie job from the brief).

 

We engaged specialist legal counsel from leading chambers in London, not some back street local solicitor with a practice on Durham Road. I have read the letter as I instructed the legal team on this and the letter is certainly presents compelling arguments - I deal with a lot of similar scenarios in my professional life but not about takeovers of football clubs so I am not going to sit here and say I am an expert in takeovers, if I was I would have written the letter myself.

 

Finance wise NUST is healthy with a strong bank balance.

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