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bealios

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  1. That's not as daft as it sounds. It wouldn't really be a fee "not to sign him". It's basically a loan deal, a transfer fee at the end if you keep him, a loan fee at the end if you don't. I don't know enough about it, but it is perfectly possible that the "loan fee" at the end could just be based on minutes used. But in the scheme of things, that isn't going to be huge money to make you tell Eddie Howe how to pick a team. Logic suggests it is either (a) he genuinely doesn't think he is ready, or (b) the implications of playing Hall are so financially massive that the board need to tell Eddie who he needs to pick. That second one if you think about it is quite a big deal, it would really need to be something major for the board to interfere in who the manager picks, particularly when we have been down to bare bones.
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    Joey Barton

    Have to admit, read that and thought it was a bit of a spoof. Has he really said that? Quite depressing if so, always had a bit of a soft spot for him as a bit of a chav trying to be intellectual, but he's now literally auditioning for a GB News talk show via twitter.
  3. FMV is a complete red herring, it’s meaningless. It’s only relevant because of flawed FFP rules. It it literally expressed to stop an owner funding a team so that they might get anywhere close to an established team.
  4. Is that right? I ask because I am interested not because I am doubting you by the way. I always thought what you said below was right based upon it being "football based" for FFP, but then the comments in the press about Everton messing up because they had accounted for the stadium loan interest in the wrong way doesn't seem to support that. Surely stadium/infrastructure spend is outside of FFP however you structure the financing?
  5. Wage caps or transfer fee caps will get equally mired in legal challenges - with the added difficulty that none of the actual players/agents would support it. The only way to have a decent stab at real sustainability rules without being completely anti-competitive is to keep the current rules (certain percentage of income) but supplement them with an exclusion of any transfer fees paid up front (it won't harm future sustainability if transfer fees are paid in cash up front without the instalment basis when current (rich) owners are long gone, and with a similar bond/security for contracted wages. It's really not that difficult to implement. You just keep the current model but with a forward looking basis - a club can only operate if their current revenue matches a certain percentage of the next (5) years cost amortised cost. If a transfer fee has been paid in full up front, it doesn't count. If the future wages have been secured by way of bond/security, it is excluded from the calculation. If any club for cash flow purposes decided that they just want to work with the current model, with deferred transfer fees and wages coming down the line for the next 3 - 8 years, it needs to be a certain percentage of revenue.
  6. Meh. Relegation fighting club makes Europe next season. Struggles year after. This has been happening for years. Only difference in the past is that rather than relegation threatened it was relegation certainties in our case, and rather than “Europe” it was Champions League. Also; when we say struggling, we go into 2024 top 7 - 10. Over reaction again.
  7. Don't think I have been as confident going into a game against Man U in 40 years. 0 - 1 (McTominay)
  8. End result: Actual Result: Absolute shitter, would have taken it before the game, and if you look at what they missed, if we did win it would have been the perfect definition of "hit and run". We didn't out play them, so we can't be disappointed with a draw. Eddie Howe - Majestic in his post-match interview and our perfect manager. Milan Game: Doesn't change much - we draw, we are in UEFA in later stages. Win and we have an outside chance of qualifying. Although it is not that much an outside chance, if I have my maths right PSG need to win away in Dortmund otherwise we qualify if we beat Milan. Game 6 is still meaningful So in the "group of death", we have performed, fucked over by a clearly wrong decision, and we are well placed. With a skeleton squad hampered by injuries. I am seeing progress here.
  9. Isn't it just because we're successful and we're expected to win all of our home games now, no matter the opposition? I haven't been to the Etihad, but I have been to a fair few games at Chelsea during peak-Abramhovic era, and the atmosphere was shite. Same at Arsenal. Wasn't impressed at Old Trafford either. We just have less games now where the expected result is anything other than win. Not a massive coincidence that the best atmospheres in last year and a half have been Arsenal, PSG, Man Utd etc.? All with supporting reasons - PSG, champions league, Man Utd - revenge, Arsenal - final game of season after staying up/they were a bunch of twats this year. I haven't done as many home games as I would like this year, but not sure what other games have had great atmospheres and which have been particularly bad? I do admit thought that watching the game yesterday on the TV/stream - it sounded pretty quiet. I would say that from a personal point of view, having been going to 35 years or so, I have had more games stick in the mind for atmosphere since takeover than any others. But that might be recency bias, it might just be relief. PSG was the best atmosphere I have experienced, Arsenal on the last day of season was great. Man Utd at home after the Cup Final. Spurs the week after the take-over (for the first 20 mins or so). The other Spurs game obviously. Brighton at home last year. But I thought Leicester on the last day was dreadful given the circumstances (but probably because of the circumstances). I really think we're being a bit harsh on the atmosphere thing - are we any worse than Arsenal, Man U, City, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool etc.? And I don't mean comparing it against when they play Newcastle (where it seems recently the crowd would be fired up because nobody likes us now). Is the Etihad a cauldron when they play Burnley at home? I just think so many things contribute to it - a lot of it comes from perceived injustice - and being an underdog. I randomly remember a game during the Keegan years when we drew with Millwall 1 - 1, losing for most of the game, it was either near Christmas or New Year, and we equalised reasonably late on after having a bad run from the ref. - still remember it now, but probably because of what mood I was in that day, how much I had had to drink and what was going on in life at the time!
  10. No idea what that means, but that might be an age thing. Anyway, when I wasn't so old I remember being able to be able to download YouTube videos really easily so if someone is tech savvy enough to be able to extract a highlights video from Discovery they can have my log in
  11. There's 28 minutes on Discovery+ (i.e. TNT app) if you are a subscriber. Just had the same debate with my uncle, all he can find is the 4 minute highlights. Looks like they keep the extended highlights to TNT subscribers. Basically the same as BT I think.
  12. Thought he was fantastic today. Anyway, on the release clause discussion, it’s not a great idea when you factor in Saudi league pushing up prices. 2 years time if Saudi league come knocking for Salah prices, we have no argument at all that he’s worth £150m. It’s £100m max. I know it’s a ridiculous number, but Caciedo and Rice have set a different pricing thtreshold, the former particular who nobody had heard of two years ago.
  13. Just to flag for anyone who is fortunate enough to be able to swing it via work, it looks like the Champions League packages of 3 games via corporate hospitality is already live for sale. Logged on with my season ticket account earlier so don't know if that is only available to members, account holders or season ticket holders. Expensive obviously, cheapest is Park Grille at roughly £270 quid a ticket per match, 3 course meal included, booze extra. And obviously a 3 game commitment, and that's without knowing the fixture dates. Surely would have made sense to keep at least some of the hospitality areas open for single game packages - I get that they need to sell tables of a certain amount (i.e. 4) per game given the set-up, but by doing them in three game packages you're basically cutting out a market which might splash out for a single game for a birthday, or some of our overseas fans who might be prepared to pay that to go to one game given the likely opposition. It isn't as if they need to sell them in a package to maximise income - they're will all likely sell. Unless they're worried about "Game 3" being meaningless at that point....
  14. Is there any reason why this isn't a "Topfiveometer" given that chances are that (a) that will be CL, and (b) even if it isn't it would still be huge given the extra games etc.? Don't want to mess up the maths obviously if someone has put the effort in to already set this up, but give how the season has started and how other clubs have looked, I don't think there is anyone other than Man City who look clearly ahead of us - it looks like Man City nailed on, Arsenal probably still a step above, but Man U, Liverpool, Villa, Spurs, Brighton, Chelsea, Brighton, West Ham have looked round about the same level or lower given what we have seen so far. League of 9 for 3 CL spaces after City and Arsenal seems a reasonable upper-end target? Obviously if we win the CL with a domestic cup thrown in, I'd happily accept top 8 as a reasonable achievement. Priorities.
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    Jacob Murphy

    Given the talent we have at the moment, madness he is fast becoming my favourite player. Had a long debate with my daughter today about the name she might have on shirt for the season - Murphy was in the top 3. Obviously pushing it for the letter count. And holding back that Bruno has a surname. Other one was "Burn". Long gone are the days where an Old Trafford goal led me to investing in "Papavasileiou".
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