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Surely the test is the test and that's the end of it. There's a set criteria and if it's met then it passes?

 

How can Qatar be allowed to hire a QC to give their interpretation of the WTO report and submit it? The PL are looking at the suitability or otherwise of MbS and Saudi to become the owners of a PL club and that's the end of it. The process has nothing to do with Qatar outside of the piracy claim which has now been revealed and presented. Up to the PL to decide who they say no to, SA or Qatar. Given Qatar don't already own a PL club I'd imagine it's easier to say no to them and welcome the new SA cash.

 

This isn't a new issue either, the PL will have been quite aware of what's happened over the last couple of years and still haven't said no yet. They could have thrown it out immediately. They could have thrown it out yesterday night upon publication of the report but they haven't. That leads me to believe it'll go through and some kind of compromise will be thrashed out via the PL and SA about the piracy. Nothing at all to base this on btw

 

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

 

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

 

I'm sure this has been said before but I wish you were more like Teller.

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

 

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

 

I think me and you have totally different opinions about this takeover ..............its 100% on

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

I wish when you'd signed up you'd added "Island" at the end of your username.

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

 

Evening dickhead, had a nice day?

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

 

Fine wummery. Always find your post peculiarly interesting.

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I'm sure this has been said before but I wish you were more like Teller.

 

WUM reporting for duty.

 

I wish when you'd signed up you'd added "Island" at the end of your username.

 

Evening dickhead, had a nice day?

 

 

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

 

 

Has it? Then what is the big deal anymore?

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

 

 

Is your BeoutQ box working though?

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A World Trade Organization finding that Saudi Arabia broke intellectual-property rules when it failed to crack down on pirated Qatari television broadcasts could hurt the kingdom’s effort to buy a major U.K. soccer team, and may even have implications for U.S. tariffs.

 

Qatar, boycotted by a Saudi-led Arab alliance since 2017, brought the case against the kingdom over satellite broadcaster and streaming service beoutQ. The Saudi government denies links to beoutQ, but on Tuesday a WTO panel found the company operated under Saudi jurisdiction and retransmitted content produced by Qatar-based sports broadcaster BeIN Media Group LLC.

 

“Qatar has established that Saudi Arabia has not provided for criminal procedures and penalties to be applied to beoutQ” despite established evidence that it’s operated by people or entities under Saudi jurisdiction, the Geneva-based body said in its ruling.

 

Ali Al Kuwari, Qatar’s minister of commerce and industry, called the judgment “a resounding victory,” and Stephen Nathan, a lawyer for BeIN Media, hailed “a historic vindication of intellectual property rights.”

 

Newcastle Bid

 

Saudi officials vowed to appeal, but also said they were pleased the panel partly ruled in favor of a WTO exemption, raised by the kingdom, that permits governments to take actions to protect “essential security interests.” Riyadh argues that applies to the claim by Qatar, which it accuses of interfering in Saudi affairs.

 

“The Saudis think that they have won on every issue that matters to them,” said Daniel Crosby, legal counsel to Saudi Arabia in the case.

 

An appeal would essentially veto the ruling and block Qatar’s pursuit of redress as the WTO appellate body no longer has sufficient members to sign off on new rulings due to a Trump administration block on nominees.

 

The dispute has weighed on the pending bid by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and other investors for Newcastle United. In April, BeIN Chief Executive Officer Yousef Al-Obaidly urged heads of English Premier League clubs to “fully interrogate” the people and money behind the deal.

 

“Not only has the potential acquirer of Newcastle United caused huge damage to your club’s and the Premier League’s commercial revenues; but the legacy of the illegal service will continue to impact you going forward,” Al-Obaidly wrote, according to a copy of one of the letters seen by Bloomberg. BeIN owns the broadcasting rights for top flight English matches in the Middle East.

 

In a statement, soccer governing body FIFA said it agreed with the WTO recommendations and demanded Saudi Arabia take immediate steps “to protect legitimate media rights partners, such as BeIN, and also football itself.”

 

The ruling may also have consequences for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs. President Donald Trump’s administration invoked an interpretation of a Cold War-era national security law and argued that the WTO cannot mediate national security disputes.

 

The Qatar-Saudi decision, though, marks the second time the WTO asserted it can rule in a trade case where one side has declared a matter of national security. The other involved a 2019 dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Rift Allegations

 

BeoutQ emerged in 2017 after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates severed diplomatic ties with Qatar. The import of BeIN devices was banned in Saudi Arabia, and a now-former royal court adviser, Saud Al-Qahtani, wrote on Twitter promising “alternative solutions” for free or a nominal price.

 

BeoutQ soon began broadcasting the same games and commentary as the Qatari broadcaster -- interspersed with political content criticizing Qatar. At one point, beoutQ was broadcast in Riyadh sports cafes, at government-sponsored events and on a giant screen on the city’s main boulevard.

 

Gulf leaders have pointed to fresh attempts to resolve the rift between Qatar and its neighbors. The Saudi-led quartet claims the Qatari government funds terrorism and interferes in their domestic affairs, allegations that Doha denies.

 

Saudi sports cafes have returned to broadcasting BeIN. BeoutQ boxes are no longer widely available, and some Saudis who bought them earlier said they no longer worked.

 

“I don’t know why those who are behind beoutQ started beoutQ, and I don’t know why they decided to stop beoutQ,”said Abdulaziz AlSwailem, chief executive of the Saudi Authority for Intellectual Property.

 

 

 

 

It's not a new development, and isn't presented as such within the Bloomberg article. Scare over - still on course for rejection.

 

Here's Keyser with his usual bullshit  ;D

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

 

 

Has it? Then what is the big deal anymore?

 

You don't get off for previous illegal behaviour just because you've stopped doing it.

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

 

 

Has it? Then what is the big deal anymore?

 

You don't get off for previous illegal behaviour just because you've stopped doing it.

 

In this case you would though, this is what the PL will want to see.

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

Refreshing change from the relentless Qatari fueled headlines i suppose.

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

 

 

Has it? Then what is the big deal anymore?

 

You don't get off for previous illegal behaviour just because you've stopped doing it.

 

I didn't realise the PL O&D test was a legal affair like. Surely all the PL are concerned about is earning as much money as possible. If they can get Saudi money in the league as well as pacify BEIN by this development allowing them to exercise their broadcasting rights, the PL will definitely not want to block the deal and reverse the situation with respect to BEIN (apparently) being available legally in KSA.

 

First I've heard of this though. Think people are confusing beoutq having stopped broadcasting sometime in 2019 with BEIN being allowed back in by KSA. If the latter is true that's a fresh development isn't it?

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Can always rely on Bloomberg to spread Saudi's fairy tales.. no longer worked ffs :lol: The US' stance on the majority of Qatar's claims in the WTO report is also unceremoniously pro-Saudi.

 

BeIN has been widely available legally throughout the last year in KSA, as I have said previously.

 

I was under the impression that they were still banned from being shown in public places though (i.e. cafes)

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