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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

 

It's the same with cross country skiers in Norway. All of them have asthma for some mysterious reason.

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

 

They wouldn't be taking them if it wasn't going to give them some kind of advantage. 63% asthmatic vs. 12% in general population can't just be a coincidence

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

 

They wouldn't be taking them if it wasn't going to give them some kind of advantage. 63% asthmatic vs. 12% in general population can't just be a coincidence

There's a real lack of evidence for any sort of meaningful performance-enhancing effects of salbutamol when under the controlled upper limit, especially in team sports. You'd have to be taking around 16 doses of the thing over the course of the day to exceed the controlled upper limit, risking a failed piss test.

 

Like I said earlier, this is all assuming they've done the objective test. It's not something you can really cheat, and it's a pretty unpleasant test to undergo (tests of lung function before and after inhaling dry air for 6 minutes).

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

 

They wouldn't be taking them if it wasn't going to give them some kind of advantage. 63% asthmatic vs. 12% in general population can't just be a coincidence

 

You can't compare elite athletes to the general population.

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

 

They wouldn't be taking them if it wasn't going to give them some kind of advantage. 63% asthmatic vs. 12% in general population can't just be a coincidence

 

You can't compare elite athletes to the general population.

 

Well they should have lower asthma if anything surely? It's also 6 times the PL average fwiw

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

 

They wouldn't be taking them if it wasn't going to give them some kind of advantage. 63% asthmatic vs. 12% in general population can't just be a coincidence

There's a real lack of evidence for any sort of meaningful performance-enhancing effects of salbutamol when under the controlled upper limit, especially in team sports. You'd have to be taking around 16 doses of the thing over the course of the day to exceed the controlled upper limit, risking a failed p*ss test.

 

Like I said earlier, this is all assuming they've done the objective test. It's not something you can really cheat, and it's a pretty unpleasant test to undergo (tests of lung function before and after inhaling dry air for 6 minutes).

 

Fair enough. You are obviously more qualified than me to speak on this. Do know it's been a big controversy in cycling in recent years with teams getting TUEs based on a ridiculous proportion of the cyclists being asthmatic

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

 

They wouldn't be taking them if it wasn't going to give them some kind of advantage. 63% asthmatic vs. 12% in general population can't just be a coincidence

 

You can't compare elite athletes to the general population.

This too.

 

Swimmers are notorious for having such problems, but then they spend most of their training time breathing in swimming pool air. Endurance athletes are likely to spend ages outdoors breathing in cold/polluted/allergen filled air at much higher rates than the general population. 

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Interesting discussion on the Kick Off yesterday. 22 Liverpool players have asthma. Wow. What a coincidence. :whistle:

More likely to be exercise-induced bronchoconstriction; it's very common among elite athletes. They'll likely be prescribed inhalers - a reliever such as salbutamol and a preventer such as Fostair. A therapeutic dose of either isn't going to give them a competitive advantage.

 

The above is assuming they've undergone an objective test rather than just been diagnosed using a questionnaire.

 

They wouldn't be taking them if it wasn't going to give them some kind of advantage. 63% asthmatic vs. 12% in general population can't just be a coincidence

There's a real lack of evidence for any sort of meaningful performance-enhancing effects of salbutamol when under the controlled upper limit, especially in team sports. You'd have to be taking around 16 doses of the thing over the course of the day to exceed the controlled upper limit, risking a failed p*ss test.

 

Like I said earlier, this is all assuming they've done the objective test. It's not something you can really cheat, and it's a pretty unpleasant test to undergo (tests of lung function before and after inhaling dry air for 6 minutes).

 

Fair enough. You are obviously more qualified than me to speak on this. Do know it's been a big controversy in cycling in recent years with teams getting TUEs based on a ridiculous proportion of the cyclists being asthmatic

I've done the test and been diagnosed, but I'm by no means an authoritative voice on the subject. :lol:

 

I just think a lot of the time the controversy is overblown. Even if the athletes are absolutely caning the stuff, any performance-enhancing effect is likely to be negligible. For a lot of them it's probably a placebo type situation.

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Something must have been worked out with this as we can now get every PL game for £26 a year.  That's a legit deal through tencent, no dodgy shit.

 

These words and name don't work together. :lol: Will be interesting to see how PL bends the knee for China if f.ex a player or pundit says something deemed as damaging to Chinas reputation.

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Something must have been worked out with this as we can now get every PL game for £26 a year.  That's a legit deal through tencent, no dodgy shit.

 

These words and name don't work together. :lol: Will be interesting to see how PL bends the knee for China if f.ex a player or pundit says something deemed as damaging to Chinas reputation.

 

They'll simply disappear. Never to be mentioned again.

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Something must have been worked out with this as we can now get every PL game for £26 a year.  That's a legit deal through tencent, no dodgy shit.

 

These words and name don't work together. :lol: Will be interesting to see how PL bends the knee for China if f.ex a player or pundit says something deemed as damaging to Chinas reputation.

 

It seemed cheap last week, looks a bit pricey after the Brighton 'game'.

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£26 a year for all games is dirt cheap.

 

Probably makes more sense to price low when you have a market of 1.3 billion people to sell to, and a market to try and capture, rather than having a much smaller market of loyal fans who will pay through the nose (like the domestic TV situation).

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