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The process often changes when a goal is scored though, which means that the raw statistic isn't as valuable as it appears.

 

Lots of managers are the type that will instruct a decent attacking team to stop doing it upon taking the lead. So you might have loads of first half chances, score the 7th one, then drop in and defend it. You end up conceding late and end up with a 1-1 draw. The xG stats say that you should have won 3-1 but that doesn't tell the truth about the game and how it was managed. The xR was only 3-1 because you took so long to score the first, you might well have scored the first chance on offer, and then defended that. Identical strategy but one looks better for you on the data because your strikers missed a load of chances - but if they'd not missed the first, the other six never happen.

 

The statistic doesn't allow for a game to be changed by a goal, and it is therefore quite misleading, which is what I thought the point Nobody (Towelie) was making was (rather than a more simple "only the result matters" one).

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The process often changes when a goal is scored though, which means that the raw statistic isn't as valuable as it appears.

 

Lots of managers are the type that will instruct a decent attacking team to stop doing it upon taking the lead. So you might have loads of first half chances, score the 7th one, then drop in and defend it. You end up conceding late and end up with a 1-1 draw. The xG stats say that you should have won 3-1 but that doesn't tell the truth about the game and how it was managed. The xR was only 3-1 because you took so long to score the first, you might well have scored the first chance on offer, and then defended that. Identical strategy but one looks better for you on the data because your strikers missed a load of chances - but if they'd not missed the first, the other six never happen.

 

The statistic doesn't allow for a game to be changed by a goal, and it is therefore quite misleading, which is what I thought the point Nobody (Towelie) was making was (rather than a more simple "only the result matters" one).

Spot on :thup:

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I guess that’s fair enough, but results themselves are also subject to similar logic. And also quite a bit of randomness.

 

I just find it a bit old fashioned how everyone justifies their opinion based on a result, when in reality the have little idea of what they manager had actually done. If they’re not doing that here, all good.

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Arsenal have a four-man committee overseeing the managerial recruitment and have drawn up a shortlist of up to 12 names which will be reduced to a few candidates in the next week. The club have started to inteview people and ideally want to make an announcement in a month [Times]

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Arsenal have a four-man committee overseeing the managerial recruitment and have drawn up a shortlist of up to 12 names which will be reduced to a few candidates in the next week. The club have started to inteview people and ideally want to make an announcement in a month [Times]

 

Take you time lads née rush.

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Arsenal have a four-man committee overseeing the managerial recruitment and have drawn up a shortlist of up to 12 names which will be reduced to a few candidates in the next week. The club have started to inteview people and ideally want to make an announcement in a month [Times]

 

Take you time lads née rush.

 

The opposite of Levy :laugh:

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Perhaps Freddie Ljungberg will get a few results and a clamour can begin for the "old boy come home" schtick to play out again...?

read somewhere he can't take over long term without special dispensation as he doesn't have a pro licence

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Perhaps Freddie Ljungberg will get a few results and a clamour can begin for the "old boy come home" schtick to play out again...?

read somewhere he can't take over long term without special dispensation as he doesn't have a pro licence

 

Yeah - I heard somewhere that he can't even be in the dug out for their European games as he's unqualified. Some shit like that anyway.

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It's weird that's still seen as such an enormous amount of money for a manager when plenty PL clubs will pay that for a reserve full back next summer.

 

Suppose players hold their value better and you don't have to give them a load more money to go away if they're shite.

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Atlético Madrid may part ways with manager Diego Simeone soon. Members of the board are dissapointed with the performances and had set out clear objectives for the League and Champions League.[Marca]

 

Simeone heading for Atlético Madrid divorce[The Mirror]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/diego-simeone-heading-atletico-madrid-21023582

 

Surely not.

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It's weird that's still seen as such an enormous amount of money for a manager when plenty PL clubs will pay that for a reserve full back next summer.

 

Suppose players hold their value better and you don't have to give them a load more money to go away if they're shite.

 

Not sure the mackems would agree with you there.... :lol:

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Atlético Madrid may part ways with manager Diego Simeone soon. Members of the board are dissapointed with the performances and had set out clear objectives for the League and Champions League.[Marca]

 

Simeone heading for Atlético Madrid divorce[The Mirror]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/diego-simeone-heading-atletico-madrid-21023582

 

Surely not.

 

No chance that's happening.

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