Jonjo Shelvey (now playing for Çaykur Rizespor, on loan from Nottingham Forest)

It was a text book header, from that far out it had to be directed pretty well to beat the keeper.

 

Personally speaking I still think we would be better with Longstaff in the side.

I don't think longstaff got enough credit for the second goal, 30 yards out, great strike. Not many in our squad could do that

 

And yet it doesn’t get credited as an assist. It’s crazy.

 

Do you know what an assist is?

I’d say twatting the ball in a way the keeper can only push it out to an onrushing forward should be considered one.

It was a text book header, from that far out it had to be directed pretty well to beat the keeper.

 

Personally speaking I still think we would be better with Longstaff in the side.

I don't think longstaff got enough credit for the second goal, 30 yards out, great strike. Not many in our squad could do that

 

And yet it doesn’t get credited as an assist. It’s crazy.

 

Do you know what an assist is?

 

I’d say twatting the ball in a way the keeper can only push it out to an onrushing defender should be considered one.

FYP

Well for the statisticians, Cabaye’s little pass into Ben Arfa with his back to goal inside his own half is an assist. Hayden’s 10 yard pass to Schar v Cardiff before he skinned everyone goes down as an assist. Almiron v Everton and Longstaff yesterday aren’t yet I know which ones had a bigger part in the respective goals.

St Maximin vs Bournemouth isn't because it nicked off a defender before reaching Yedlin. Awful stat.

Well for the statisticians, Cabaye’s little pass into Ben Arfa with his back to goal inside his own half is an assist. Hayden’s 10 yard pass to Schar v Cardiff before he skinned everyone goes down as an assist. Almiron v Everton and Longstaff yesterday aren’t yet I know which ones had a bigger part in the respective goals.

Yes but if you bent the assist stats to include stuff like that where would you draw the line

A shot on target leading to a tap-in is an assist in every sense of the word.

A shot on target leading to a tap-in is an assist in every sense of the word.

A million percent agree

A shot on target leading to a tap-in is an assist in every sense of the word.

 

A million percent agree

Now who’s messing with statistics?

Well for the statisticians, Cabaye’s little pass into Ben Arfa with his back to goal inside his own half is an assist. Hayden’s 10 yard pass to Schar v Cardiff before he skinned everyone goes down as an assist. Almiron v Everton and Longstaff yesterday aren’t yet I know which ones had a bigger part in the respective goals.

Almiron's at Bournemouth last season - carried the ball about 50 yards - was chopped down on the edge of the box and Rondon smashed in the free kick!

shelvey's been barely OK rather than good during games - but he's popped up at the right times with important goals.

Nolanesque.

shelvey's been barely OK rather than good during games - but he's popped up at the right times with important goals.

 

Nolanesque.

Exactly what I think.

I think he has made the difference at times especially when Carroll is on the pitch. Same wavelength

Anyone who persists with wanting Longstaff in the side over Shelvey, give your fucking heads a good shake. He offers nowhere near what Shelvey does.

Aye let's always just compare one player's purple patch with another player's shocker.  Seems like a sound methodology to me.

He just scored some goals man. His general play has been no better than what Longstaff is doing today.

He just scored some goals man. His general play has been no better than what Longstaff is doing today.

This.

He just scored some goals man. His general play has been no better than what Longstaff is doing today.

 

This.

What a crock of shit!

Longstaff hasn’t looked anything like the player he was under Rafa and as someone pointed out above, Shelvey is going through a purple patch, and yet some of you still want Longstaff in the side over Shelvey. Makes no sense at all. If Shelvey had been in the side today we’d have looked more dangerous without a doubt. Even if it was just at set pieces because Longstaff’s have been terrible all game.

Shelvey can usually pick a pass when he's on the ball - which isn't much because of his lack of involvement. But one player can't make a passing team. The whole team is shot to shit due to lack of coaching. None of the four Steves seem to have any idea how to get players moving into space.

The set pieces would have been much better with Shelvey tbf. They were beyond wank yesterday.

Shit player whether scoring or not, whether in the team or not!

I mean he’s not exactly been controlling matches but he’s been integral in the points earned for a handful of matches. Even his biggest critics can at least give him that. Lord, lol.

Shit player whether scoring or not, whether in the team or not!

You don't do half measures any more do you. or did you ever. He's not a shit player, but he is limited depending on the opposition.

Shit player whether scoring or not, whether in the team or not!

Too short, didn't read.

Shit player whether scoring or not, whether in the team or not!

 

You don't do half measures any more do you. or did you ever. He's not a shit player, but he is limited depending on the opposition.

Nah he’s shit, shit state of affairs he’s seemingly a key player for us now under Bruce in 2019. Rafa had him sussed!