Topic: Team America: Internet Police (UK ISPs Block PirateBay - DOS Attacks on TPB)

[Mike]

At least your guy knew "IP Address".

Senator Ted Stevens - Series of Tubes

This is REAL.

[wacko]

At least your guy knew "IP Address".

Senator Ted Stevens - Series of Tubes

This is REAL.

I dunno. I think "knew" is really stretching it a bit, but yeah, Ted takes the cake.

Where is Al Gore when you need him? Can't he sack off all this CO2 s*** and get back to important stuff, like defending our access to porn?

[Mike]

Al Gore is busy playing Al Gore on 30 Rock and Futurama.

[wacko]

It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.

Who else can save us from Manbearpig?

[Mike]

Figure he'll be back in 2016. He's probably laying low.

[wacko]

I dearly f***ing hope so.

Don't rate his chances much, though. He's far too sensible for Americans to elect, especially since half of them apparently caught BSE and formed the Tea Party.

[maybe_next_year]

looks like FBI website is down.

[TaylorJ_01]

The Justice Dept @TheJusticeDept 1h  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
The department is working to ensure the website is available while we investigate the origins of this activity...

WMG's website is down too. These guys are nuts

[TaylorJ_01]

Seems like everything is getting f***ed by 4chan's LOIC program which is pretty much untraceable.

[Ryan_Taylor]

Never f*** with the nerds

[Mike]

I dearly f***ing hope so.

Don't rate his chances much, though. He's far too sensible for Americans to elect, especially since half of them apparently caught BSE and formed the Tea Party.

You only need the other half.

[Sewelly]

I always thought the guys that could do this ended up working for the government anyway.

[neesy111]

I always thought the guys that could do this ended up working for the government anyway.

Quite a few hackers do end up being brought into businesses to make bump up there IT security.  Though doing it against the US government is a no-no.

[Nobody]

At least your guy knew "IP Address".

Senator Ted Stevens - Series of Tubes

This is REAL.

What the f*** is he talking about?!

[OCK]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/senate-leaders-of-both-parties-back-away-from-protect-ip.ars

The PROTECT IP Act continued to suffer serious blows on Thursday as both the Senate Majority Leader and the Senate Minority Leader made moves that further damaged the anti-piracy bill's chances of passage. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will not seek to use his leverage over other Democrats to ensure the Protect IP Act gets enough votes to overcome a filibuster. Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) joined other Republican senators in blasting Reid for rushing the legislation to the Senate floor.

Ordinarily, party leaders use their leverage over their members to "whip" them into voting in line with the rest of their caucus. But according to Politico, "Reid won't whip Democratic votes for an online anti-piracy bill, according to sources familiar with his plans." That means Democrats will feel free to oppose the bill without worrying that they will be denied future favors by party leaders.

"The decision deals a severe blow to movie, music and television producers, who had hoped to withstand a surprisingly strong Silicon Valley surge against the bill," Politico reports.

Meanwhile, on the Republican side, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell joined the growing chorus of Republican Senators accusing Reid of rushing the bill through the Senate without adequate debate.

"While we must combat the on-line theft of intellectual property, current proposals in Congress raise serious legal, policy and operational concerns," McConnell said. "Rather than prematurely bringing the Protect IP Act to the Senate floor, we should first study and resolve the serious issues with this legislation."

He urged the Democratic leadership to "reconsider its decision to proceed to this bill."

Here you can see who the idiots are:

http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

[Decky]

Anonymous
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[POOT]

Pipa shot down now, too.

2-0

[geordiemonster]

Seems like everything is getting f***ed by 4chan's LOIC program which is pretty much untraceable.

That's not entirely true - it relies on the hackers using a network tool such as Tor to hide their IP address.  People have been caught and prosecuted for using LOIC - at the end of the day, it's only as good as the people who use it and a lot of those are pretty dumb IMO.

[Newcastle Fan]

Brilliant, f***ing Americans trying to take way the internet..

[geordiemonster]

Brilliant, f***ing Americans trying to take way the internet..

Thing is, whilst the Americans are doing their usual sledge hammer to crack a nut I do have a bit of sympathy with their cause.  People seem to want free internet and everything on it free, but don't seem to realise that if films, music, games etc are freely available for nowt on the internet then there is less desire for the copyright holders to continue producing them.  They can't have it both ways - someone has to pay for productions costs!

On the other hand I reckon the copyright holders shoot themselves in the foot by being overly greedy in their pricing structure (for example ebook pricing) and that encourages people to pirate stuff.  I reckon if things, such as books were available for a reasonable price then there wouldn't be nearly as much hacking - apart from the few people who wouldn't pay for stuff, no matter what it cost. 

[leffe186]

Brilliant, f***ing Americans trying to take way the internet..

Thing is, whilst the Americans are doing their usual sledge hammer to crack a nut I do have a bit of sympathy with their cause.  People seem to want free internet and everything on it free, but don't seem to realise that if films, music, games etc are freely available for nowt on the internet then there is less desire for the copyright holders to continue producing them.  They can't have it both ways - someone has to pay for productions costs!

On the other hand I reckon the copyright holders shoot themselves in the foot by being overly greedy in their pricing structure (for example ebook pricing) and that encourages people to pirate stuff.  I reckon if things, such as books were available for a reasonable price then there wouldn't be nearly as much hacking - apart from the few people who wouldn't pay for stuff, no matter what it cost. 

I think there are rather more than a few people who wouldn't pay for stuff, no matter what it cost.

[OCK]

Hyperbole aside people have been stealing from the dawn of time. You'll always get those who want something for nothing. However, how the Entertainment Business has went about trying to correct this is terrible.

[Dave]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16352785

Action movie Fast Five was the most pirated film of 2011, according to file-sharing blog, Torrent Freak.

The fifth instalment in the Fast and the Furious film series was downloaded 9.2 million times, figures have shown.

In second place was The Hangover II with 8.8 million downloads followed by Thor, thriller Source Code and I Am Number Four was in fifth place.

James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar was last year's top-pirated film, downloaded 16.6 million times.

Fast Five
Budget    $125 million
Box office    $626.1 million

Hangover II
Budget    $80 million
Box office    $581,464,305

Thor
Budget    $150 million
Box office    $449.3 million

Source Code
Budget    $32 million
Box office    $123,278,618

I am Number Four
Budget    $50 million
Box office    $145,982,797

Avatar
Budget    $237 million
Box office    $2,782,275,172

However will they cope?

[B-more Mag]

Not surprisingly the most reasonable position is somewhere in between the Internet Nerds and the Silly US Politicians. Many an Internet Nerd enjoy the benefits of copyright laws and would complain if they weren't appropriately enforced. On the other hand we don't need Silly US Politicians passing hamfisted laws while bending over for corporate interests. It would be nice if people would occasionally start with reasonable positions instead of reaching them after a battle of extremists.

[OCK]

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/20/technology/SOPA_PIPA_postponed/index.htm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- When the entire Internet gets angry, Congress takes notice. Both the House and the Senate on Friday backed away from a pair of controversial anti-piracy bills, tossing them into limbo and throwing doubt on their future viability.

The Senate had been scheduled to hold a proceedural vote next week on whether to take up the Protect IP Act (PIPA) -- a bill that once had widespread, bipartisan support. But on Friday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he was postponing the vote "in light of recent events."