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The Leveson Enquiry
« on: Friday 8 April 2011, 10:08:49 PM »
So, I know they hack into the voicemails but how do they do that?

What would be the proceedure if someone was interested in doing such a heinous(sp) crime?
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 10:10:00 PM »
thread title change surely "i suspect she's been up to something, help me find out"
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 10:12:27 PM »
thread title change surely "i suspect she's been up to something, help me find out"

Ha ha. We're sitting watching the news and she asked me how it could be done. I don't have a scooby.
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 10:12:41 PM »
Ring the number you have to ring from a landline to access your voicemail messages, enter 'your' number, nobody has a password on.
It isn't really hacking and if i was in that kind of position i'd put a pin on it.

Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 10:15:54 PM »
theres a bit on last night 10 'o'clock live (repeated tonight) with a bloke who done a bit of it and he lets on a little. can't remember off hand though.


(my wifes too stupid to delete her stuff, i reckon  she's more the old fashioned "nipping out for some milk" but really nips out to a call box type)
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 10:17:10 PM »
Ring the number you have to ring from a landline to access your voicemail messages, enter 'your' number, nobody has a password on.
It isn't really hacking and if i was in that kind of position i'd put a pin on it.
i didn't even know there was a number i could ring from a landline to acccess my voicemail.
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 10:39:33 PM »
Ring the number you have to ring from a landline to access your voicemail messages, enter 'your' number, nobody has a password on.
It isn't really hacking and if i was in that kind of position i'd put a pin on it.

Aye, it's not 'hacking' at all. They just rang random famous people's numbers to access their voicemail. Most had no pin, the others had the standard 1234 or 0000 or whatever. Not right, but stupid on the person's behalf.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 11:05:05 PM »
Seriously?  That was all they did?  Is this fact or conjecture?  I'm not implying anything!
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 11:07:32 PM »
Seriously?  That was all they did?  Is this fact or conjecture?  I'm not implying anything!

I might not have read the full story, but that's the jist of what I got. I could be completely off like.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #9 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 11:09:42 PM »
Complete fact, they didn't do anything that we couldn't do ourselves with our mobile phones and a phone number, it's not morally right but 'hacking' it certainly isn't, stupidity on the people who have been 'hacked's' part.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #10 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 11:10:57 PM »
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""Phone hacking" takes advantage of a facility that allows a cellphone user to access their messages from another telephone.

Usually this is done by dialling one's own phone and then entering a PIN code when the voicemail system kicks in. Since many users do not bother to change their PIN codes from the default settings, these can sometimes be guessed. "

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #11 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 11:15:32 PM »
They used spoof cards to help.
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 8 April 2011, 11:24:19 PM »
Complete fact, they didn't do anything that we couldn't do ourselves with our mobile phones and a phone number, it's not morally right but 'hacking' it certainly isn't, stupidity on the people who have been 'hacked's' part.

Clive Goodman (NOTW) got sent to clink for hacking phones of members of the royal household & since then it looks like NOTW hacked Wills & kates phone.   I think it is pretty much nailed on between MI6 & Royal Protection Squad they would have make sure the Royals & there signifcent others had passwords setup after the 1st hit. Also the NOTW hired Glenn Mulcaire private investigator to help with the hacking because the key part is getting landline number so you can use the spoof card.
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 12:54:40 AM »
Complete fact, they didn't do anything that we couldn't do ourselves with our mobile phones and a phone number, it's not morally right but 'hacking' it certainly isn't, stupidity on the people who have been 'hacked's' part.

Stupidity on their part? So if some c*** piles into your messages because they've got too boring a life to do anything better you're the idiot? It's f***ing mental this.
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 01:00:30 AM »
thats all they do? christ they way its been talked about i had envisaged something rather more complicated and hi tech, thats just disappointing 
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 01:17:21 AM »
Complete fact, they didn't do anything that we couldn't do ourselves with our mobile phones and a phone number, it's not morally right but 'hacking' it certainly isn't, stupidity on the people who have been 'hacked's' part.

Stupidity on their part? So if some c*** piles into your messages because they've got too boring a life to do anything better you're the idiot? It's f***ing mental this.
I'm not condoning it but if I was in a position such as theirs I would have proper protection!

Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 01:33:52 AM »
Its fact. That's all they did.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 02:27:02 AM »
I can't say I'm shocked to see them doing it. Either way it's wrong and they deserve all that's coming to them.

Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 01:15:37 PM »
they';re in a panic - if the judges give everyone they've hacked £ 1 million (including costs) they're going to have to up the cost of SKY quite a bit
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 05:31:10 PM »
NOTW should be f***ed lashed for this, on news night last night soom goon was saying they are waiting for Murdoch to do a full investigation.

Erm, hang on jackie, USE THE f***ing POLICE!

Sadly, i think NOTW have summik on the police.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 9 April 2011, 07:20:11 PM »
Its fact. That's all they did.

"That's all they did". :rolleyes:

They invaded people's privacy without any legitimate journalistic reason for doing so. They want locking up. :rant:

This is the same as burglary. :no:

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 10 April 2011, 10:48:04 AM »
Its fact. That's all they did.

"That's all they did". :rolleyes:

They invaded people's privacy without any legitimate journalistic reason for doing so. They want locking up. :rant:

This is the same as burglary. :no:

I think he means they didn't need any sophisticated methods, just that person's number :thup:
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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 10 April 2011, 10:49:59 AM »
Its fact. That's all they did.

"That's all they did". :rolleyes:

They invaded people's privacy without any legitimate journalistic reason for doing so. They want locking up. :rant:

This is the same as burglary. :no:

I think he means they didn't need any sophisticated methods, just that person's number :thup:

So let me get this straight, effectively what you're saying is that because someone forgets to set their burglar alarm when they go out, they are actually ASKING to be burgled? Do I have that right?

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 10 April 2011, 12:25:32 PM »
Its fact. That's all they did.

"That's all they did". :rolleyes:

They invaded people's privacy without any legitimate journalistic reason for doing so. They want locking up. :rant:

This is the same as burglary. :no:

I think he means they didn't need any sophisticated methods, just that person's number :thup:

So let me get this straight, effectively what you're saying is that because someone forgets to set their burglar alarm when they go out, they are actually ASKING to be burgled? Do I have that right?


I don't know, I was trying to point out that kirkwdavis2001 wasn't trying to put the blame onto anyone, he was commenting on the level of sophistication needed to perpetrate such a heinous crime.

i.e. it was quite a simple procedure, no elaborate James Bond equipment needed :thup:
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I fully expect to get slayed and slated here for being a w***** apologist and maybe I'm wrong, maybe all they care about is lining their pockets and f***ing us over but you can argue it both ways. The haters have a more aggressive way of talking about it but we'll not know who's right until MA's ownership comes to an end.

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Re: NOTW - Phone Hacking.
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 10 April 2011, 12:37:08 PM »
I've been wondering when somebody was going to get the nerve together to have a proper go at News International.  Hoping this could be the start of it.. I always get the impression that the politicians and probably the judiciary are too scared of them to properly take them to task :)