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How has Alan Pardew done as Newcastle manager so far? Poll reset 23/04/12

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Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11900 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 01:12:41 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but where has this idea that Sturridge was acutally available come from?

Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11901 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 01:23:12 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but where has this idea that Sturridge was acutally available come from?
Was wondering that myself. According to some rumors Liverpool tried to get Sturridge in exchange for Meireles..
"Let's hug it out, bitch"

biggs

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Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11902 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 01:26:22 PM »
I originally posted after Leon Best scored the 2 against Fulham that we wouldnt buy a striker as it was a get out clause for the clowns aned yes they havent actually used it as an excuse i believe Pardew will .

Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11903 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 01:27:19 PM »

Do you think Liverpool are having concerns about Carroll if as believed they went after Sturridge? A friend of mine in Liverpool confirmed from what he'd heard that Pool had gone after Sturridge.

Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11904 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 01:34:12 PM »

Do you think Liverpool are having concerns about Carroll if as believed they went after Sturridge? A friend of mine in Liverpool confirmed from what he'd heard that Pool had gone after Sturridge.

Think its more that they need more strikers, before Bellamy signed they had just Carroll and Suarez(Think liverpool rate kuyt as a winger not a striker). Dalgleish know it is a long season so he needs player who can rotate, also Sturridge can play on the wing.
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Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11905 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 01:52:16 PM »
The main positive I can find in not signing a striker is it dramatically increases the chance of game time for Sammy Ameobi, who looks a real prospect (looks far better than Carroll at the same age) and give me a home-grown talent over one imported in any day.

Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11906 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 01:56:10 PM »
The main positive I can find in not signing a striker is it dramatically increases the chance of game time for Sammy Ameobi, who looks a real prospect (looks far better than Carroll at the same age) and give me a home-grown talent over one imported in any day.

I agree that would be good BUT sadly I think Lovenkrands is ahead of him in the pecking order, which is just  :facepalm:

sicko2ndbest

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Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11907 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 02:38:30 PM »
Jef Stelling now

Saying something just not right with the Ruiz bid!
Wishes he was Interpolic

Tsunami

  • Ashley Out
Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11908 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 05:36:21 PM »
Jef Stelling now

Saying something just not right with the Ruiz bid!

John Anderson doesn't believe that we made any bid. What can't be denied is that we sold Carroll in January and we still have an unused number 9 shirt. That tells us that the manager doesnt believe any of the current players were his preferred first choice.

We failed miserably and those responsible will do the same again and again until they realise that buying a good or promising goal scorer is a difficult and expensive business. I find it hard to understand how they could sell Carroll for at least 15M more than he was worth and then expect to pick up his replacement on the cheap.

They should have viewed the first 15M of his replacement as free money - just think what that nay have bought us.

BlueStar

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Re: Alan Pardew - Club Statement re:transfer window in OP
« Reply #11909 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 05:43:20 PM »
Here's an idea if you don't want to make "knee jerk" signings, sign someone during the f***ing months and months you've had to sort it out you bunch of useless pricks, then you don't have to make the choice between panic signing and no-one at all.

BooBoo

Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11910 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 07:49:04 PM »
Nutshell by Bluestar.

Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11911 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 10:49:53 PM »
The main positive I can find in not signing a striker is it dramatically increases the chance of game time for Sammy Ameobi, who looks a real prospect (looks far better than Carroll at the same age) and give me a home-grown talent over one imported in any day.

Another positive is that Leon Best gets a proper run, who knows how that will turn out
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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11912 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:46:26 PM »
Think we missed a trick not putting out foot down and demanding sturridge when given transferred to man city.

Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11913 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:48:20 PM »
It will be interesting to see what happens in January as prices are always inflated and we will not pay for players that are overpriced. 

Optimistic Nut

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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11914 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:53:04 PM »
It will be interesting to see what happens in January as prices are always inflated and we will not pay for players that are overpriced. 


There's bound to be a random French or Dutch League's striker whose contract is going to expire in June that we could get on the cheap...

GuyP

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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11915 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:54:46 PM »
Think we missed a trick not putting out foot down and demanding sturridge when given transferred to man city.

everyone did, I may be in the minority but i thought he was gash until that loan spell at Bolton...uninformed maybe but i didnt see enough to make me think he'd have been better than a (at the time) well scoring Owen or Oba...

Interpolic

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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11916 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:55:36 PM »
It will be interesting to see what happens in January as prices are always inflated and we will not pay for players that are overpriced. 


:lol:
Pardew on Radio Newcastle now;

Too many good players missing
No excuses

:lol: FFS.

Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11917 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:55:40 PM »
Think we missed a trick not putting out foot down and demanding sturridge when given transferred to man city.

Should have done that when Chelsea were desperate for Torres. I know he was on loan at Bolton at the time, but I'm sure something could have been worked out.

Sewelly

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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11918 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:56:26 PM »
January is perfect for these goons. Lots of players with 6 months left we can either tap up for the end of the season (Marveaux) or try and sign then and there for below market value (Larsson). Probably end up tapping up some European player.
Before that why didn't the Wigan fans just walk the the Stewart's, the Stewart's only went up to the touchline, their was a big gap between the end of the Stewart's and the stand they could have walked through.
God man replacement's don't have to 100% of best to 100% of a replacement.

Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11919 on: Saturday 3 September 2011, 11:58:15 PM »
January is perfect for these goons. Lots of players with 6 months left we can either tap up for the end of the season (Marveaux) or try and sign then and there for below market value (Larsson). Probably end up tapping up some European player.

Speaking of which does M'Bengue's contract expire in the summer?
It's basically what gives us the upper hand even in times of crisis. "Cannit wait man, we're gonna batter them, hope it's 4 or 5 nil, fancy such and such for a hat trick, we're going got Europe, they're a yo-yo team" Then five minutes into the game "s***, why haven't we scored? They've had a shot! Why aren't we all over them? How come there are two teams in the game? f***, what if we don't win? f***s SAKE CLEAR IT SHOOT TACKLE HIM BOO! What if we lose, PANIC PANIC BRUCE MAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHY DID HE MISS THAT SHOT, IS HE A MAG?! IT'S BECAUSE BRUCE IS A MAG! f*** OFF STEWARD ARE YOU A f***ing MAG? BET ALL THESE COPPERS ARE MAGS, AND THE MEDIA! THE REF'S A f***ing MAG! AM I A MAG?! Wait, blacked out for a second there. Ah, f***, we've lost again."

midds

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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11920 on: Sunday 4 September 2011, 12:01:31 AM »
Don't think we've got any intention of paying decent money for a striker either last window or next. Any bids we supposedly make are made in the knowledge that either the club or the player (or both) will reject it. But at least they can say that they tried. That's the main thing.   
The club comes first.

JH

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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11921 on: Sunday 4 September 2011, 12:10:32 AM »
Don't think we'll make any signings in January tbh.

Will be a scouting mission for those that contracts run out next June.

Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11922 on: Sunday 4 September 2011, 12:16:43 AM »
I dont think there is a hard-cap on how much we are willing to spend tbh ( within reasonable limits ofc).  I mean, I can easily see Mike willing to spend 15 million on a player, as long as he feels like the player is worth 25+.  Its all about "getting a good deal" for him I suspect, regardless of how much the player costs.  You could see he was willing to stretch to 10-12 mill for Cisse, while not being willing to shell that much out for Maiga, because he is not as good.

Hopefully we will find some loophole in a quality strikers contract, can see Mike striking like a cobra in that case.
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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11923 on: Sunday 4 September 2011, 12:40:10 AM »
I dont think there is a hard-cap on how much we are willing to spend tbh ( within reasonable limits ofc).  I mean, I can easily see Mike willing to spend 15 million on a player, as long as he feels like the player is worth 25+.  Its all about "getting a good deal" for him I suspect, regardless of how much the player costs.  You could see he was willing to stretch to 10-12 mill for Cisse, while not being willing to shell that much out for Maiga, because he is not as good.

Hopefully we will find some loophole in a quality strikers contract, can see Mike striking like a cobra in that case.

This, he's trying to run transfers as a business. It means that he's only going to buy cheap players to fill gaps or potentially excellent players who can be sold later. The point is though, it can actually work both as a good business model and a way of improving your squad over a period of time. Unfortunately, it's a very slow way of improving a team and can create these windows of time where we have weakened areas (especially strikers) until we find another good deal.

I've always accepted it will take time to see where we're at, not just in weeks or months, but in years. They keep saying their strategy will take several years to implement, I accept this and realise that in the future we may be able to hold onto players much easier if we manage to achieve success without burning cash to get there. There's next to no point in overspending until you're in the s*** to get to Europe, only to fall out of it for several years and potentially enter relegation battles. Be frugal, spend the money wisely but at all times keep a core of good players in the side and try the utmost to create a core which is reasonably stable for three-four years,

I fully expect to get slayed and slated here for being a w***** apologist and maybe I'm wrong, maybe all they care about is lining their pockets and f***ing us over but you can argue it both ways. The haters have a more aggressive way of talking about it but we'll not know who's right until MA's ownership comes to an end.

Let me add finally, that whatever does happen, I still think he's a disgusting c*** for what he did to Keegan, for lying and for being a fat, pathetic pansy of a man who desperately wanted to be liked only to become one of the most hated figures in the UK. Llambias is a greasy pig who should be roasted on a spit and served to the sewers but yes, I can see logic and sense in the way club operates

Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #11924 on: Sunday 4 September 2011, 12:40:25 AM »
It's almost impossible to make predictions regarding our January targets, assuming there are any.

They have a strict transfer policy that won't accommodate paying 'what you need to pay'. Since the beginning of football, transfer philosophy hasn't really varied, and one particular facet remains consistent: a player is worth as much as someone is willing to pay. However, our current ownership practically abandons that idea because they aren't prepared to pay for anything.

All of the transfers accumulated since we were relegated have been via sheer opportunism. Whether that's reading up on contract loopholes (Cabaye) or simply spotting a bargain (Tiote), unambitious frugality has been evident for a few seasons now.

Considering that, coupled with the inflation of prices that occur in January (see Carroll. A), i'd be astonished to see any major signings to make up for the summer's failures.

Depending on our situation in the table, if we were to sign anyone then, it would be in the form of more short-term deals.
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