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NE5

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:22:00 PM »
I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.



I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist.

Do you not think it's fair that if they take the p*ss, f*** up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it?

but the bigger picture is that it is simply becoming near impossible for these clubs to continue. They need assistance, not points docked.



Why is it near impossible? The vast majority of clubs seem to manage.

Of course, more money should be filtered down through the football league generally but why should a club be given assistance if they've f***ed up?

I mean assistance in the form of different allocation of money within the game. Or lots of them will simply go bust. It's inevitable.

http://z3.invisionfree.com/NUFCforum/index.php?

"He wants what we want and goes to the games for the same reason as we do, he wants us to win for the pleasure that brings.  He wants to build the club up and put everything in place to make sure we can maintain a high position once we reach it." - mick [aka Stephensons Rocket], aug 10th 2008

"I think Keegan would be a daft option, he's been here and done the best he could." - mick, 6th March 2006

"Ashley will do something Shepherd has never ever done, he'll spend HIS own personal money on players as the club will be his." - mick 7th June 2007

I think we've done well in the last window - mick, 23 Oct 2008

any individual or group resourceful enough to raise the £100 million plus that would be needed today to take over the club is likely also to be intelligent and resourceful enough to make a better fist of it than the current board - ozzie mandiarse 24th Oct 2006

Dave

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:25:31 PM »
That's been needed for years and years.

Dave

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:28:42 PM »
I have an absolute f***ing corker of a post here but I just can't bring myself to submit it. It would be horrendous hypocrisy, so I won't.

Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:29:34 PM »
I honestly think it's amazing that England has been able to sustain 5 tiers of professional clubs for so long.

I honestly don't think it's going to last that much longer.

Honestly?
Under-21 coach David Platt added: "If Shola recognises what he's got, all hell could break loose."

Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:30:07 PM »
I have an absolute f***ing corker of a post here but I just can't bring myself to submit it. It would be horrendous hypocrisy, so I won't.

Don't be gay.
Under-21 coach David Platt added: "If Shola recognises what he's got, all hell could break loose."

NE5

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:31:11 PM »
I have an absolute f***ing corker of a post here but I just can't bring myself to submit it. It would be horrendous hypocrisy, so I won't.

you write corker posts ?  ;D
http://z3.invisionfree.com/NUFCforum/index.php?

"He wants what we want and goes to the games for the same reason as we do, he wants us to win for the pleasure that brings.  He wants to build the club up and put everything in place to make sure we can maintain a high position once we reach it." - mick [aka Stephensons Rocket], aug 10th 2008

"I think Keegan would be a daft option, he's been here and done the best he could." - mick, 6th March 2006

"Ashley will do something Shepherd has never ever done, he'll spend HIS own personal money on players as the club will be his." - mick 7th June 2007

I think we've done well in the last window - mick, 23 Oct 2008

any individual or group resourceful enough to raise the £100 million plus that would be needed today to take over the club is likely also to be intelligent and resourceful enough to make a better fist of it than the current board - ozzie mandiarse 24th Oct 2006

oldtype

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:31:43 PM »
I honestly think it's amazing that England has been able to sustain 5 tiers of professional clubs for so long.

I honestly don't think it's going to last that much longer.

Honestly?

NE5 is right (:)), these clubs will become increasingly unsustainable without more distribution of money from the top tier.

Eventually, Prem clubs will start wondering if it's worth pouring money into the lower leagues just to keep Accrington Stanley afloat, and the lower division clubs will be cut loose in favor of a "breakaway" first and second divisions.

The Prophet

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:31:52 PM »
Just these people who think we'll breeze back up to the Premier League need a serious talking to. The Championship is a horrile league. As well as it being full of teams which are more than capable of turning smaller premier league teams over on their own patch, a serious reduction in quality players and an increase in the good old long ball game it also holds serious financial implications.

The parachute payments and shrink in television money often can't cover the wage bill and expenses of teams dropping out the top flight. It really sorts the well clubs out from the also rans and we need to be running a tight ship should we go down to have a chance of coming straight back up.
It's basically what gives us the upper hand even in times of crisis. "Cannit wait man, we're gonna batter them, hope it's 4 or 5 nil, fancy such and such for a hat trick, we're going got Europe, they're a yo-yo team" Then five minutes into the game "s***, why haven't we scored? They've had a shot! Why aren't we all over them? How come there are two teams in the game? f***, what if we don't win? f***s SAKE CLEAR IT SHOOT TACKLE HIM BOO! What if we lose, PANIC PANIC BRUCE MAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHY DID HE MISS THAT SHOT, IS HE A MAG?! IT'S BECAUSE BRUCE IS A MAG! f*** OFF STEWARD ARE YOU A f***ing MAG? BET ALL THESE COPPERS ARE MAGS, AND THE MEDIA! THE REF'S A f***ing MAG! AM I A MAG?! Wait, blacked out for a second there. Ah, f***, we've lost again."

Blefuscu

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:32:39 PM »
What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.


ban tbh. thats abuse david.

Is calling for a ban not a banable offence?


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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:33:35 PM »


Don't be gay.
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this

oldtype

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:33:43 PM »
What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.


ban tbh. thats abuse david.

Is calling for a ban not a banable offence?

You did it too, so all 3 of you are banned :razz:

lovejoy

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:34:23 PM »
What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.


ban tbh. thats abuse david.

Is calling for a ban not a banable offence?

is picking someone up who is calling for a ban not a bannable offence?

Blefuscu

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:36:22 PM »
What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.


ban tbh. thats abuse david.

Is calling for a ban not a banable offence?

You did it too, so all 3 of you are banned :razz:

When did I call for a ban for someone?


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Dave

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:36:34 PM »
:lol:

Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:37:21 PM »
What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.


ban tbh. thats abuse david.

Is calling for a ban not a banable offence? I RECKON YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, YOU t***.

You did it too, so all 3 of you are banned :razz:

When did I call for a ban for someone?

.. err..



oldtype

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:37:27 PM »
What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.


ban tbh. thats abuse david.

Is calling for a ban not a banable offence?

You did it too, so all 3 of you are banned :razz:

When did I call for a ban for someone?

I could point it out for you, but then I'd be ban-able too.

Blefuscu

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:37:51 PM »
I'm sure posting on the board can be considered a banable offence like.


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Blefuscu

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:39:13 PM »
What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.


ban tbh. thats abuse david.

Is calling for a ban not a banable offence?

You did it too, so all 3 of you are banned :razz:

Does this not already cover you, Oldtype? In that case it's now 4 bans. Anyone else want a ban while we are on? Come on, they won't last forever. Anymore for anymore?


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Northerngimp

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:41:27 PM »
We should make it a bootable offence to ask for a ban.............




OzzieMandias on March 05, 2011, 12:32:59 PM
When we spend a load of money in the summer, I hope we're going to hear a few apologies from those who, by that time, will have bored the rest of us to distraction with months and months of pointless moaning.

Dave

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:42:24 PM »
Bah f*** it, I might as well. This thread's gone to s*** anyway. :lol:

Let's play a little game. Guess who said this:

Quote
"I think it is dog-eat-dog, the big fight will be for the Premier League to take over the running of the other leagues.

"The others can't hold us back, the time will come, I think, when it is the Premier League running the whole show.

"Many of these other clubs will have to go part-time. When we have got 52,000 fans at each home game, the last thing we are worried about is clubs in the third division.

"There is no sympathy here."

oldtype

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:43:29 PM »
oooh now you've done it... :kinnear:

Northerngimp

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:44:04 PM »
Bah f*** it, I might as well. This thread's gone to s*** anyway. :lol:

Let's play a little game. Guess who said this:

Quote
"I think it is dog-eat-dog, the big fight will be for the Premier League to take over the running of the other leagues.

"The others can't hold us back, the time will come, I think, when it is the Premier League running the whole show.

"Many of these other clubs will have to go part-time. When we have got 52,000 fans at each home game, the last thing we are worried about is clubs in the third division.

"There is no sympathy here."

BIG FREDDY!

what do i win?
OzzieMandias on March 05, 2011, 12:32:59 PM
When we spend a load of money in the summer, I hope we're going to hear a few apologies from those who, by that time, will have bored the rest of us to distraction with months and months of pointless moaning.

NE5

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:45:44 PM »
Bah f*** it, I might as well. This thread's gone to s*** anyway. :lol:

Let's play a little game. Guess who said this:

Quote
"I think it is dog-eat-dog, the big fight will be for the Premier League to take over the running of the other leagues.

"The others can't hold us back, the time will come, I think, when it is the Premier League running the whole show.

"Many of these other clubs will have to go part-time. When we have got 52,000 fans at each home game, the last thing we are worried about is clubs in the third division.

"There is no sympathy here."

I know who said that  ;D

That was when we had ambition.......

http://z3.invisionfree.com/NUFCforum/index.php?

"He wants what we want and goes to the games for the same reason as we do, he wants us to win for the pleasure that brings.  He wants to build the club up and put everything in place to make sure we can maintain a high position once we reach it." - mick [aka Stephensons Rocket], aug 10th 2008

"I think Keegan would be a daft option, he's been here and done the best he could." - mick, 6th March 2006

"Ashley will do something Shepherd has never ever done, he'll spend HIS own personal money on players as the club will be his." - mick 7th June 2007

I think we've done well in the last window - mick, 23 Oct 2008

any individual or group resourceful enough to raise the £100 million plus that would be needed today to take over the club is likely also to be intelligent and resourceful enough to make a better fist of it than the current board - ozzie mandiarse 24th Oct 2006

Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:47:36 PM »
Back to the subject... ;)

It's stupid that they can "wait to see what happens" before deciding when Southampton should lose the points. They should lose them next season, regardless. I thought that once it got to certain time in the season, that's what happened anyway?

Northerngimp

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Re: Southampton Relegated
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 23 April 2009, 03:49:34 PM »
Back to the subject... ;)

It's stupid that they can "wait to see what happens" before deciding when Southampton should lose the points. They should lose them next season, regardless. I thought that once it got to certain time in the season, that's what happened anyway?

Maybe change the rules so clubs only have two windows to do it, or make it 20 pts deduction if they choose to wait until the end of the season.
OzzieMandias on March 05, 2011, 12:32:59 PM
When we spend a load of money in the summer, I hope we're going to hear a few apologies from those who, by that time, will have bored the rest of us to distraction with months and months of pointless moaning.