Topic: Southampton Relegated

[SUPERTOON]

Breaking news on sky.

Deducted 10 points.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8014811.stm

[Optimistic Nut]

Yep, if they stay up, they get the 10 points docked this season and they go down, but start on 0 points next season.

If they go down, they lose the 10 points next season instead.

[Disco]

Shame for their fans but they've been run appallingly.

[LucaAltieri]

I know a couple of Portsmouth fans who will be delighted.

[NE5]

just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down.

[Blefuscu]

just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down.

And we're off......

[NE5]

just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down.

And we're off......

wait and see what happens if we go down.

Whats wrong with that ? You're paranoid 

[Colo's Short and Curlies]

just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down.

And we're off......

wait and see what happens if we go down.

Whats wrong with that ? You're paranoid 

All this sexual tension in the forum today.........

[Consortium of one]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

[Dave]

What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.

[lovejoy]

What does Southampton have to do with us?

f*** all, so p*ss off spoiling threads.

ban tbh. thats abuse david.

[Optimistic Nut]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

To stop clubs doing what Leeds did, ie, wait until they were confirmed as relegated before going into Administration, and getting the points docked then.

[PM]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

I suppose they're trying to avoid scenarios like Leeds and Boston where they went into administration after already being relegated, and avoided any real penalty.

[Ronaldo]

beyond f***ing obsession

[Consortium of one]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

To stop clubs doing what Leeds did, ie, wait until they were confirmed as relegated before going into Administration, and getting the points docked then.

Ahh, ok, didn't think of that.  That makes sense,  Thanks

[NE5]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

[broonalegeordie]

bless, poor so'ton

[Dave]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist.

Do you not think it's fair that if they take the p*ss, f*** up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it? The authorities use punishments like this as a warning to other clubs to be more sensible. I agree many players are paid too much, but nobody forces clubs to pay it.

[Lotus]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

I agree with everything you say there but the last paragraph is leaning dangerously towards socialism

[NE5]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist.

Do you not think it's fair that if they take the p*ss, f*** up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it?

but the bigger picture is that it is simply becoming near impossible for these clubs to continue. They need assistance, not points docked.

[oldtype]

I honestly think it's amazing that England has been able to sustain 5 tiers of professional clubs for so long.

I honestly don't think it's going to last that much longer.

[NE5]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

I agree with everything you say there but the last paragraph is leaning dangerously towards socialism

yep, I know that. I just see it as the only way dozens of clubs will survive unfortunately.

[Dave]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist.

Do you not think it's fair that if they take the p*ss, f*** up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it?

but the bigger picture is that it is simply becoming near impossible for these clubs to continue. They need assistance, not points docked.

Why is it near impossible? The vast majority of clubs seem to manage.

Of course, more money should be filtered down through the football league generally but why should a club be given assistance if they've f***ed up?

[Lotus]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

I agree with everything you say there but the last paragraph is leaning dangerously towards socialism

yep, I know that. I just see it as the only way dozens of clubs will survive unfortunately.

Well, i'm fully with you with the sentiment.

[Lotus]

I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty.  I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table.

In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them.

Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore.

I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal.

I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist.

Do you not think it's fair that if they take the p*ss, f*** up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it?

but the bigger picture is that it is simply becoming near impossible for these clubs to continue. They need assistance, not points docked.

Why is it near impossible? The vast majority of clubs seem to manage.

Of course, more money should be filtered down through the football league generally but why should a club be given assistance if they've f***ed up?

I think more and more clubs will struggle.