Topic: Linux

[ToonTastic]

By cheap you mean free open source solution

[wacko]

By cheap you mean free open source solution

Touché.

I meant the linked Mac skinning, not your desktop, by the way. Always thought it a little odd trying to make one OS look like another one. I love the look of your start bar (or whatever it's called).

[SEMTEX]

My current desktop.

I can also have a nice dock along the bottom like on the Mac if I fancy it. In fact it's very easy to make Gnome look exactly like a Mac now. This is linux:

 http://images.howtoforge.com/images/mac4lin/Mac4Lin%20Documentation_html_6890eb3f.jpg

That looks pretty good, but it's still a cheap knock-off ;-) I'm really not a fan of Gnome at all. Much preferred it to KDE in version 1, but KDE has been ahead since version 2, and I think Gnome is going backwards these days. In fact, I used to use WindowMaker most of the time, myself, so I guess it's not surprising I ended up with a Mac:

Your dock is immense. Jesus H.

It has made me consider tinkering and getting some nice spacers in there, categorise my apps into groups or some such. Good verk.

[ToonTastic]

By cheap you mean free open source solution

Touché.

I meant the linked Mac skinning, not your desktop, by the way. Always thought it a little odd trying to make one OS look like another one. I love the look of your start bar (or whatever it's called).

Thanks, believe it or not the hardest part was changing the text colour lol took me hours to work out.

[wacko]

My current desktop.

I can also have a nice dock along the bottom like on the Mac if I fancy it. In fact it's very easy to make Gnome look exactly like a Mac now. This is linux:

 http://images.howtoforge.com/images/mac4lin/Mac4Lin%20Documentation_html_6890eb3f.jpg

That looks pretty good, but it's still a cheap knock-off ;-) I'm really not a fan of Gnome at all. Much preferred it to KDE in version 1, but KDE has been ahead since version 2, and I think Gnome is going backwards these days. In fact, I used to use WindowMaker most of the time, myself, so I guess it's not surprising I ended up with a Mac:

Your dock is immense. Jesus H.

It has made me consider tinkering and getting some nice spacers in there, categorise my apps into groups or some such. Good verk.

Lol. It is pretty long. I think my menu bar wouldn't fit on anything smaller than a 22" screen.

[khay]

My current desktop.

I can also have a nice dock along the bottom like on the Mac if I fancy it. In fact it's very easy to make Gnome look exactly like a Mac now. This is linux:

 http://images.howtoforge.com/images/mac4lin/Mac4Lin%20Documentation_html_6890eb3f.jpg

That looks pretty good, but it's still a cheap knock-off ;-) I'm really not a fan of Gnome at all. Much preferred it to KDE in version 1, but KDE has been ahead since version 2, and I think Gnome is going backwards these days. In fact, I used to use WindowMaker most of the time, myself, so I guess it's not surprising I ended up with a Mac:

I used squeak for my honours project.

[wacko]

My current desktop.

I can also have a nice dock along the bottom like on the Mac if I fancy it. In fact it's very easy to make Gnome look exactly like a Mac now. This is linux:

 http://images.howtoforge.com/images/mac4lin/Mac4Lin%20Documentation_html_6890eb3f.jpg

That looks pretty good, but it's still a cheap knock-off ;-) I'm really not a fan of Gnome at all. Much preferred it to KDE in version 1, but KDE has been ahead since version 2, and I think Gnome is going backwards these days. In fact, I used to use WindowMaker most of the time, myself, so I guess it's not surprising I ended up with a Mac:

I used squeak for my honours project.

Cool. What did you build? Have you seen Pharo? Squeak with a reasonable GUI.

[OpenC]

Resurrection

Starting to come to the conclusion that Linux has now come of age.  Since I got a little netbook and was appalled at how slow and terrible Windows 7 Starter Edition was, I thought I'd give Ubuntu another go.. I know a lot of folk don't like the launcher that the new Ubuntu uses (and I think part of me still prefers Gnome), but I'm very impressed at how easy it is to use, how quick it is, and how reliable it is.  Windows 7 is long since gone, the netbook is running Linux only and it's wonderful   I'm only using the proper PC for photoshop and lightroom these days.  Anybody else still using Linux?  And if so, which versions..?

I'm even getting used to the idea of sudo apt-get install xyz   Much less hassle than windows installers tbh, although I previously derided the idea

[OpenC]

In fact, installing Ubuntu on the spare drive of the desktop (previously named "working" and never having contained anything at all) as we speak, and will be setting grub to default to Ubuntu if not told otherwise.  And posting this from firefox as it installs.  Unbelievably good.  Well done Linux folk

(assuming that installing grub doesn't f*** my Windows 7 install, of course, in which case: f*** you, Linux)

[womblemaster]

i am no expert on linux, only used it occasionally.



busy building apc to try it out again tho.

[OpenC]

All is well.  Grub isn't as configurable as it used to be (or, at least, it doesn't seem to be), but that was a quick and painless install

[OpenC]

i am no expert on linux, only used it occasionally.



busy building apc to try it out again tho.

If it's been a while since you tried it, I think you'll find Ubuntu 11.10 a very pleasant experience   heard good things about Mint as well, but I've been using Ubuntu on and off for years now, so I'll stick with that until it either wins the Linux war or goes obsolete

[womblemaster]

i down loaded bodhi linux.....havent burned an iso to disc in 5 years tho so ive forgotten how....havent got aroudnto trying yet(i get very somnolent whenits cold)

[ToonTastic]

i am no expert on linux, only used it occasionally.



busy building apc to try it out again tho.

If it's been a while since you tried it, I think you'll find Ubuntu 11.10 a very pleasant experience   heard good things about Mint as well, but I've been using Ubuntu on and off for years now, so I'll stick with that until it either wins the Linux war or goes obsolete

If you prefer the old Gnome look go down the Mint route. I used to use Ubuntu and after trying loads thought I wouldn't change but now I'm a Linux Mint user and just feel it's come on leaps and bounds. I'm one of the people who just can't get the new ubuntu look. They've gone for portable over PC and I don't like it.

[womblemaster]

on a side note, i assume you lads are following this.....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Raspberry-Pi/203296286406503

[Lenny]

Haven't looked at Ubuntu for about a year. Didn't mind it in all honesty so might have another look. Still got my media server running on Ubuntu server, but haven't installed the GUI.

[OpenC]

How do I repartition the Linux system folder so I can create a seperate partition for /home ..?  Presumably I need to start gparted or something like outside of the GUI but this netbook only has the one OS so grub doesn't give me options at boot time.

And, if I manage that, how do I point /home at a seperate partition?

[ToonTastic]

How do I repartition the Linux system folder so I can create a seperate partition for /home ..?  Presumably I need to start gparted or something like outside of the GUI but this netbook only has the one OS so grub doesn't give me options at boot time.

And, if I manage that, how do I point /home at a seperate partition?

Here you go http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome

and during install

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome

[OpenC]

Worked perfectly, thank you

I guess, though, that if I overwrite my Ubuntu install with Mint (or something) now, I'll have to reinstall all the packages I've installed?  Or is there a record somewhere in home of what I've installed?

[Lenny]

Resurrection

Starting to come to the conclusion that Linux has now come of age.  Since I got a little netbook and was appalled at how slow and terrible Windows 7 Starter Edition was, I thought I'd give Ubuntu another go.. I know a lot of folk don't like the launcher that the new Ubuntu uses (and I think part of me still prefers Gnome), but I'm very impressed at how easy it is to use, how quick it is, and how reliable it is.  Windows 7 is long since gone, the netbook is running Linux only and it's wonderful   I'm only using the proper PC for photoshop and lightroom these days.  Anybody else still using Linux?  And if so, which versions..?

I'm even getting used to the idea of sudo apt-get install xyz   Much less hassle than windows installers tbh, although I previously derided the idea

http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/#

Nice touch, saves you having to download it to have a look.

[Lenny]

Still think that despite it looking relatively pretty, it also feels quite dated in places. The icon sets, colour scheme, in built apps such mail, office etc also look a bit tacky.

At a glance I still think I'd rather pay £60 for Windows than have Ubuntu for free.

[OpenC]

Windows 7 SE ran like a piece of s*** on this netbook, though, and Ubuntu runs wonderfully; that was the deciding factor for me   W7SE makes this song and dance about not being configurable in order to keep it running quickly, but it just doesn't   Can't even change the desktop background, ffs   This boots much quicker and (in my view, anyway) looks better.  And you can change the environment to Windows style KDE or Gnome if you can't get away with the Unity launcher.

There are some things that I need Windows for (but just on the big PC; things like Lightroom and Photoshop have no peers in Linux, and specialist apps like Memory Map just aren't available), but in all honesty I think I prefer to use Linux for a general session of listening to some music and reading the interweb.

[Lenny]

Yeah, it certainly looks usable to an everyday non-techy for standard purposes. Don't get me wrong I do like it, and would have no real objection to using it, but I just think I still prefer Windows. Suppose that's got a lot to do with the fact that I've used Windows for so long, and I don't have a device that can't comfortably run it.

[ToonTastic]

Still think that despite it looking relatively pretty, it also feels quite dated in places. The icon sets, colour scheme, in built apps such mail, office etc also look a bit tacky.

At a glance I still think I'd rather pay £60 for Windows than have Ubuntu for free.

That's the joy of Linux though you can make it look how you want very easily and for free. You could even have it look like Windows 7 if you want including fonts if you've got them http://gnome-look.org/

[ToonTastic]

Still think that despite it looking relatively pretty, it also feels quite dated in places. The icon sets, colour scheme, in built apps such mail, office etc also look a bit tacky.

At a glance I still think I'd rather pay £60 for Windows than have Ubuntu for free.

That's the joy of Linux though you can make it look how you want very easily and for free. You could even have it look like Windows 7 if you want including fonts if you've got them http://gnome-look.org/

Thought I'd be more helpful http://www.howtogeek.com/55985/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7/
http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-make-ubuntu-look-like-windows-7-theme/

and if your using Ubuntu 11.10 you will probs want to read http://askubuntu.com/questions/87632/is-there-a-theme-for-ubuntu-11-10-which-look-like-windows-7 to work out how to get the correct Gnome session.

And finally for Linux Mint http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/335