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Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:15:27 PM »
If it had been a Newcastle player racing away i would have been happy play the advantage....then win a pen.  Well Played ny the ref  :clap:

Still s*** we lost 

Actually, on that note whatever position Slim plays for NOFC, make sure he can take alot of shots, nearly broke my hand with one in warmup,  I took some shots of Steve Bowey (ex Bristol City, I think he took their set pieces) and Slims had far more venom in them.  Don't think I've experienced such a powerful strike before.

Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:16:03 PM »
If it had been a foul rather than a dive in the area I might have agreed. But you're wrong.
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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:17:18 PM »
yes you are. f*** off.

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:17:46 PM »
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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:18:00 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.
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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:18:41 PM »
If it had been a foul rather than a dive in the area I might have agreed. But you're wrong.

Then give the foul against for a dive.  The Newcastle players we moaning about the foul not been given back outside the area....

Actually, on that note whatever position Slim plays for NOFC, make sure he can take alot of shots, nearly broke my hand with one in warmup,  I took some shots of Steve Bowey (ex Bristol City, I think he took their set pieces) and Slims had far more venom in them.  Don't think I've experienced such a powerful strike before.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:20:02 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.

No you play the advantage, then if they are fouled again give the foul...whats the point of the advantage if the only way you can get that advantage is by scoring?

Actually, on that note whatever position Slim plays for NOFC, make sure he can take alot of shots, nearly broke my hand with one in warmup,  I took some shots of Steve Bowey (ex Bristol City, I think he took their set pieces) and Slims had far more venom in them.  Don't think I've experienced such a powerful strike before.

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:22:22 PM »
it was a blatant foul against Bassong by fat arsed Emile.. you're wrong
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:23:12 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.

No you play the advantage, then if they are fouled again give the foul...whats the point of the advantage if the only way you can get that advantage is by scoring?

Because it's the law of the game. The original foul is that which counts. Fair enough to Dean, it was probably a red card, but should have been pulled back for a free kick, as it wasn't advantage.

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« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:24:37 PM »
Heskey was offside
The only foul that occured was outside the box
Also seem to remember there was a player covering (though I'll have to check replays)

But yeah other then those glaring mistakes it was a great decision :rolleyes:
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:26:41 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.

No you play the advantage, then if they are fouled again give the foul...whats the point of the advantage if the only way you can get that advantage is by scoring?

Because it's the law of the game. The original foul is that which counts. Fair enough to Dean, it was probably a red card, but should have been pulled back for a free kick, as it wasn't advantage.

Not actually true Jonny, if the advantage gets played and there's another foul in the box you give a penalty.  I haven't seen this one yet though.

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:33:30 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.

No you play the advantage, then if they are fouled again give the foul...whats the point of the advantage if the only way you can get that advantage is by scoring?

Because it's the law of the game. The original foul is that which counts. Fair enough to Dean, it was probably a red card, but should have been pulled back for a free kick, as it wasn't advantage.

Not actually true Jonny, if the advantage gets played and there's another foul in the box you give a penalty.  I haven't seen this one yet though.

It wasnt like it was a clip of the heels - advantage - foul - penalty, it was one long hustle and bustle between 2 players in which one went down only when he was in the area.



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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:34:33 PM »
Christ almighty, quite a few people have been at the sherry today.
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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:35:46 PM »

 Heskey dived
 Heskey was fouled 30 yards from goal, and the linesman flagged
 Heskey was offside to begin with
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:35:58 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.

No you play the advantage, then if they are fouled again give the foul...whats the point of the advantage if the only way you can get that advantage is by scoring?

Because it's the law of the game. The original foul is that which counts. Fair enough to Dean, it was probably a red card, but should have been pulled back for a free kick, as it wasn't advantage.

Not actually true Jonny, if the advantage gets played and there's another foul in the box you give a penalty.  I haven't seen this one yet though.

It wasnt like it was a clip of the heels - advantage - foul - penalty, it was one long hustle and bustle between 2 players in which one went down only when he was in the area.

Aye, you're right actually. It could have been construed as one long foul, meaning it was a free kick.

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:38:03 PM »
it was a blatant foul against Bassong by fat arsed Emile.. you're wrong

Thats not the point im saying it was ok for the ref to play the advantage.

Actually, on that note whatever position Slim plays for NOFC, make sure he can take alot of shots, nearly broke my hand with one in warmup,  I took some shots of Steve Bowey (ex Bristol City, I think he took their set pieces) and Slims had far more venom in them.  Don't think I've experienced such a powerful strike before.

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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:38:15 PM »
Bassongs challenge was stupid, but it was offside, then freekick. Never a penalty and a red card. Harsh with red no matter what.

Then Carrols. Why wasnt kirkland given a red? i think it would have been harsh, but Bassongs was never a red either. Bullshit ref.

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:38:52 PM »
Bassongs challenge was stupid, but it was offside, then freekick. Never a penalty and a red card. Harsh with red no matter what.

Then Carrols. Why wasnt kirkland given a red? i think it would have been harsh, but Bassongs was never a red either. Bullshit ref.

no f***ing consistency

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« Reply #18 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:39:05 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.

No you play the advantage, then if they are fouled again give the foul...whats the point of the advantage if the only way you can get that advantage is by scoring?

Because it's the law of the game. The original foul is that which counts. Fair enough to Dean, it was probably a red card, but should have been pulled back for a free kick, as it wasn't advantage.

Not actually true Jonny, if the advantage gets played and there's another foul in the box you give a penalty.  I haven't seen this one yet though.

It wasnt like it was a clip of the heels - advantage - foul - penalty, it was one long hustle and bustle between 2 players in which one went down only when he was in the area.

Aye, you're right actually. It could have been construed as one long foul, meaning it was a free kick.

Again, not quite true, if it's a continuous foul into the box, you still give the penalty.  It's in the laws somewhere.

Still haven't seen this one to comment but by the sound of it he's waited til he's got into the box then thrown himself over in hope.

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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:40:48 PM »
Are you on another fuckin planet?

Yes, play the advantage. But you still pull the play back to where the foul was. So a free kick 30 yards from goal and a booking would have been the correct decision.

No you play the advantage, then if they are fouled again give the foul...whats the point of the advantage if the only way you can get that advantage is by scoring?

Because it's the law of the game. The original foul is that which counts. Fair enough to Dean, it was probably a red card, but should have been pulled back for a free kick, as it wasn't advantage.

Not actually true Jonny, if the advantage gets played and there's another foul in the box you give a penalty.  I haven't seen this one yet though.

It wasnt like it was a clip of the heels - advantage - foul - penalty, it was one long hustle and bustle between 2 players in which one went down only when he was in the area.

Aye, you're right actually. It could have been construed as one long foul, meaning it was a free kick.

Again, not quite true, if it's a continuous foul into the box, you still give the penalty.  It's in the laws somewhere.

Still haven't seen this one to comment but by the sound of it he's waited til he's got into the box then thrown himself over in hope.

 That is exactly what's happened. Was offside to begin with
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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:41:21 PM »
He was offside before the whole mess started anyway.

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« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:42:18 PM »
He was offside before the whole mess started anyway.

Then its the linesmans fault

And the keep was not the last man back

Actually, on that note whatever position Slim plays for NOFC, make sure he can take alot of shots, nearly broke my hand with one in warmup,  I took some shots of Steve Bowey (ex Bristol City, I think he took their set pieces) and Slims had far more venom in them.  Don't think I've experienced such a powerful strike before.

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« Reply #22 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:44:56 PM »
as i see it, bassong & heskey were simply hand-fighting throughout the long 20 odd yards from the original contact where (heskey was offsides btw) the linesman waves his flag.  i'm not sure how much advantage there actually was.  the only way heskey was going to score was from a poor decision from a wanking referee.  the spirit of the rules was violated, in my opinion!  :angry:
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Re: Only person who thinks the ref did well on the pen?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:45:36 PM »
He was offside for a start and if no advantage is gained after the original foul then play should get taken back to the original foul - if it was a foul originally then its purely a continuation of the same foul, not 2 seperate incidents.

Very very bad refereeing.

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 26 December 2008, 05:49:18 PM »
you know, i'd like to hear what the linesman was waving his flag for, the foul, or the offsides!?
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