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« on: December 01, 2008, 05:26:28 PM »

Why is there so much of it these days?
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 05:31:06 PM »

surely that punching is assault, and unnecessary, therefore that policeman should be arrested and charged.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 05:31:58 PM »

Realistically its because there are so many twats who go out drinking. I'm not condoning what they did there at all, well out of order, on the few occassions I've dealt with Police I've only ever been polite and walked away, but too many dick heads give them s*** and are just knobs really, I would imagine they'd have had a bad night and just snapped.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 05:32:41 PM »

I don't think it's so much that there's more of it, it's just more publicised.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 05:33:33 PM »

Why is there so much of it these days?

There's more CCTV/mobile phone cameras these days to catch it happening.  From what I've read/heard from friends and family, things used to be a lot worse.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 05:34:35 PM »

Realistically its because there are so many twats who go out drinking. I'm not condoning what they did there at all, well out of order, on the few occassions I've dealt with Police I've only ever been polite and walked away, but too many dick heads give them s*** and are just knobs really, I would imagine they'd have had a bad night and just snapped.

Pretty much sums it up.

Not on what they did there like, but he was probably being an arsehole in the first place.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 05:36:00 PM »

I can't see the clip (if there is any) as i'm at work. However, if you're committing the crime I see no problem in taking somebody down with force, even if they have to resort to punching them. End of the day, if you aren't a little scrote then you aren't going to get pulled and even if you do, just put your hands up and don't give them any reason to try take you down with force. You aren't really getting away anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 05:36:07 PM »

Realistically its because there are so many twats who go out drinking. I'm not condoning what they did there at all, well out of order, on the few occassions I've dealt with Police I've only ever been polite and walked away, but too many dick heads give them s*** and are just knobs really, I would imagine they'd have had a bad night and just snapped.

Pretty much sums it up.

Not on what they did there like, but he was probably being an arsehole in the first place.


So when a guy is clearly restrained with 3 on top there is a need to carry on punching him?
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 05:37:33 PM »

I can't see the clip (if there is any) as i'm at work. However, if you're committing the crime I see no problem in taking somebody down with force, even if they have to resort to punching them. End of the day, if you aren't a little scrote then you aren't going to get pulled and even if you do, just put your hands up and don't give them any reason to try take you down with force. You aren't really getting away anyway.


He was just talking to them 10 feet away and three run over and throw him to the ground and bang his head against the road and carry on punching him. They f***ed up cause he's a war hero.
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2008, 05:37:41 PM »

Like i said it's not on what they did to the bloke.
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2008, 05:37:57 PM »

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Police brutality is nowt new, it's just that there more likely to get caught these days.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2008, 05:39:47 PM »

I can't see the clip (if there is any) as i'm at work. However, if you're committing the crime I see no problem in taking somebody down with force, even if they have to resort to punching them. End of the day, if you aren't a little scrote then you aren't going to get pulled and even if you do, just put your hands up and don't give them any reason to try take you down with force. You aren't really getting away anyway.


He was just talking to them 10 feet away and three run over and throw him to the ground and bang his head against the road and carry on punching him. They f***ed up cause he's a war hero.

Fair enough, then that's pretty bang out of order.
If you run though, you deserve to be taken down, there are the obvious few who think they're above the law, but on the whole i've never had any problem with police aslong as you treat them (as you would with anybody) respect.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2008, 05:55:12 PM »

grab him, restrain him, put him in the van, cart him down the station.

Hope Lightfoot (he seemed to be the worst offender) loses his job.
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 06:14:07 PM »

It's fairly pathetic what they did but let's not forget the role of the media. Increased sensationalism dominates society nowadays, with bloodthirsty newspapers such as the Mirror wanting to find anything, just anything, to justify a belief that society is breaking down in every which way possible.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 06:15:22 PM »

I don't think it's so much that there's more of it, it's just more publicised.

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 06:21:12 PM »

It's fairly pathetic what they did but let's not forget the role of the media. Increased sensationalism dominates society nowadays, with bloodthirsty newspapers such as the Mirror wanting to find anything, just anything, to justify a belief that society is breaking down in every which way possible.

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"The latest rubbish is of him going to watch a player in France to decide whether he wants him. It’s the f***ing 18th of January and we haven’t closed in on our targets? What kind of shambles is this? What kind of operation is Ashley and his London-based lieutenant presiding over? Meetings last week to persuade Ashley to release funds? What was the patter about available funds in November and December? f***ing amateurs the lot of them."

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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2008, 06:23:50 PM »

Aren't they those special constables rather than actual police?

Also, I'm quite the fan of police brutality so long as it's applied to cheeky fuckers as opposed to a blanket rule of kicking the s*** out of everybody.
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2008, 06:24:59 PM »

Aren't they those special constables rather than actual police?

Also, I'm quite the fan of police brutality so long as it's applied to cheeky fuckers as opposed to a blanket rule of kicking the s*** out of everybody.

You'll be next then?
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"The latest rubbish is of him going to watch a player in France to decide whether he wants him. It’s the f***ing 18th of January and we haven’t closed in on our targets? What kind of shambles is this? What kind of operation is Ashley and his London-based lieutenant presiding over? Meetings last week to persuade Ashley to release funds? What was the patter about available funds in November and December? f***ing amateurs the lot of them."

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2008, 06:26:10 PM »

Aren't they those special constables rather than actual police?

Also, I'm quite the fan of police brutality so long as it's applied to cheeky fuckers as opposed to a blanket rule of kicking the s*** out of everybody.

You'll be next then?

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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2008, 06:27:41 PM »

Aren't they those special constables rather than actual police?

Also, I'm quite the fan of police brutality so long as it's applied to cheeky fuckers as opposed to a blanket rule of kicking the s*** out of everybody.

You'll be next then?

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2008, 06:29:51 PM »

Police to be armed with stun guns.


Tasers have been fired more than 1,000 times since 2004

Up to 30,000 police officers across all forces in England and Wales are to be trained to use Taser stun guns.
Currently, only specialist firearms officers carry the weapon, which can temporarily disable a suspect.
Now the government has announced plans to buy 10,000 more Tasers and extend their use to all frontline officers.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said police needed tools to protect themselves and the public. Amnesty International is warning against using Tasers routinely.

The Home Office plans to spend £8m on 10,000 new Tasers.
'Dangerous people'

Ms Smith said: "I am proud that we have one of the few police services around the world that do not regularly carry firearms and I want to keep it that way.
"But every day the police put themselves in danger to protect us, the public.
"They deserve our support, so I want to give the police the tools they tell me they need to confront dangerous people.
"That is why I am giving the police 10,000 Tasers to ensure that officers across the country benefit from this form of defence."
 


Of course they won't be abused. Heaven forbid.  Shock!


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"The latest rubbish is of him going to watch a player in France to decide whether he wants him. It’s the f***ing 18th of January and we haven’t closed in on our targets? What kind of shambles is this? What kind of operation is Ashley and his London-based lieutenant presiding over? Meetings last week to persuade Ashley to release funds? What was the patter about available funds in November and December? f***ing amateurs the lot of them."

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2008, 06:30:46 PM »

Seen a policeman with big f*** off boots in town last night like those skin heads used to wear, like the ones in This is England ( Laughing). Bet he could give someone a good kicking with them bastards on.
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2008, 03:56:11 AM »

Thats a despicable act especially when it is done by a police officer. I think it is becoming much more of a trend for the police officers, particularly in America and Europe to take the laws into their own hands and arrest anyone by any means necessary. Im not sure if they have the power to do that but if they dont, then the authorities need to step up and punish these irresponsible officers who will only give their fine organisation a bad name.
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2008, 08:16:06 AM »

Coppers have always done people over - the old "clip round the ear" (sometimes with a truncheon ) of the 50's gave way to the "fall down stairs" routine of the 60's and 70's and thence to "restraint" and now Tazers etc etc

The funny thing is that they are caught by the very CCTV cameras they forced on everyone
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2008, 10:10:13 AM »

If you ever watch those TV programmes when the cameras are taken on patrol with the Police I think they are often very restrained. I'm always shouting "beat him up" when they catch some scumbag burglar or car thief. Often you'll see the cops getting hit and then when the list of stuff the person was eventually charged with is read out it doesn't include resisting arrest or assaulting a police officer even when there is filmed proof to show they did.

Being in the Police these days must be 80% dealing with drunk people.
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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2008, 11:21:42 AM »

Jeez, reading this I guess the reason we have police brutality is because an alarming number of people seem to have no problem with it.
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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2008, 11:38:28 AM »

Seen a policeman with big f*** off boots in town last night like those skin heads used to wear, like the ones in This is England ( Laughing). Bet he could give someone a good kicking with them bastards on.

Before we got the train to the mackem match, coppers were going round the Union Rooms filming everyone's face with shitty little handheld cameras dressed in baseball caps and some absolutely f***ing absurd boiler suit type thing that turned into MC Hammer parachute pants halfway down.  {$default_grin_smiley}

As for police brutality, I think anyone who's attended football matches over the past few decades will be aware that members of the police force are just as capable of brutality, vindictiveness, outstanding stupidity, incompetance, negligence, spite and arrogance as any other group in society - dependant on the individual and how much they think they can get away with it or otherwise.

First two coppers I can think of off the top of my head, one of them was a cracking bloke, the other was an absolute grade-A c***, a violent, bigoted, spineless w***** of a pisshead whose hobbies included knocking about a series of girlfriends and wives.  Although last I heard he'd been kicked out of the force, so maybe the system works!
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2008, 12:06:59 PM »

Met my fair share of cvntish cops, but also met a couple of decent ones, just need to know how to deal with them. Often see them come on way to heavy handed and being general assholes for no reason on the main.
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« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2008, 06:19:53 PM »

Jeez, reading this I guess the reason we have police brutality is because an alarming number of people seem to have no problem with it.

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« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2008, 06:29:26 PM »

That first video clip seemed pretty damn tame to me. I guess I have been conditioned by spending too much time in the US and Latin America.
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