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Re: Family Trees
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 16 July 2009, 02:53:25 PM »
We've got ours, on mums side, its been traced back about 400 years, back through the first fleet sent out here. Dads family goes back about300 years, was interesting to find that,250 years ago, Ancestors on both sides of the family actually lived in the same area of England as each other.

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Re: Family Trees
« Reply #26 on: Friday 17 July 2009, 12:36:08 AM »
So long as you all promise not to have any ancestors from Manchester, I can give you some advice.

- www.ancestry.co.uk is good, but it costs money, unless you go and use it in the library in which case it's free (at least it is in Manchester, I assume it's the same everywhere else)

- www.freebmd.org.uk is very good for stuff before the 1920s, but useless for stuff afterwards, as the name suggests it'll cost you nowt to use.

- Your local version of www.lancashirebmd.org.uk will prove invaluable, as it'll be the only site that'll give you the proper reference for your local register office, which will save you cash (getting it from the local office costs £7), and mean that the staff will hate your guts a little bit less than the family historians who don't have the reference. Find the version you're looking for here: www.ukbmd.org.uk

- If you need to buy certificates online and your local register office doesn't do it (their website will be part of the council's), then only use this site: www.gro.gov.uk It'll cost you £7 if you have the GRO reference which you can get from ancestry or freebmd or your local county records office (if you prefer to do things the old fashioned way), it'll look something like: 8d 302. If you haven't got the reference it'll cost you a tenner and take longer. Be very wary of getting stuff from any other sites, in fact, just don't. You'll either get f***ed over on the price (£30, £40, £85!!) or they'll just take your card details and screw you for everything you've got.

- If you're going to get your certificates from the local register office, then what you need is: The name (at the time), the year and quarter of registration, and the registration district. You can get them from the sites mentioned above. It'll probably cost you £7, although you'll probably have to wait a while, have them sent to you, or pay extra to get them quick.

I'm not going to go off on a big whinge listing page after page of things that people do which get on our tits, but just try and be clear, concise and only give them the relevant information. The amount of people who either come into the office, or write us letters, banging on and on about their ancestors, telling us everything we didn't need to know, yet not what we do, is truly phenomenal. It may be fascinating for you, but it's work for us, I seriously doubt that there's many people who've worked in a register office that don't loathe the whole idea of researching their family tree.


Oh yeah, I almost forgot: Don't trust the census, it's invariably wrong.


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Re: Family Trees
« Reply #27 on: Friday 17 July 2009, 08:09:10 AM »
"If you need to buy certificates online and your local register office doesn't do it (their website will be part of the council's), then only use this site: www.gro.gov.uk It'll cost you £7 if you have the GRO reference which you can get from ancestry or freebmd or your local county records office (if you prefer to do things the old fashioned way), it'll look something like: 8d 302.

Wish it was possible to examine the datbase at the office, and not need to order the cert.  have a few relatives i need to chk facts on but only minor details.  That £7 can start mounting up!

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Re: Family Trees
« Reply #28 on: Friday 17 July 2009, 08:39:30 AM »
How do you go about finding out stuff like that Keefaz?

Got as much infos as I could from my folks and relatives, then went to Ancestry.co.uk which will give you a free trial for a fortnight: you can check English census records from 1841-1901, some Scottish and Irish census records too. Also births and deaths databases. For Scottish relatives, I had to use www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk which costs, and I also used the 1911 census which also costs: 1911census.co.uk.

Your public library might let you use these services for free (some of them, at least): Newcastle library does, but only for two a hours a day.

Cheers man, would love to research this kind of thing some day.

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Re: Family Trees
« Reply #29 on: Friday 17 July 2009, 08:41:50 AM »
hahhaha

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Re: Family Trees
« Reply #30 on: Friday 17 July 2009, 06:22:12 PM »
"If you need to buy certificates online and your local register office doesn't do it (their website will be part of the council's), then only use this site: www.gro.gov.uk It'll cost you £7 if you have the GRO reference which you can get from ancestry or freebmd or your local county records office (if you prefer to do things the old fashioned way), it'll look something like: 8d 302.

Wish it was possible to examine the datbase at the office, and not need to order the cert.  have a few relatives i need to chk facts on but only minor details.  That £7 can start mounting up!

Yeah, doing your family history ain't cheap. By law the only way we're allowed to give out information is in the form of a certificate, which you obviously have to pay for, but we can confirm or deny stuff you already (think you) know. So that might be an option for you, so long as you're not taking the p*ss with a huge list. What kind of minor details are you after?

As for the £7, well it's a pretty good deal if you ask me, given how much work it can take to find stuff and some f***er needs to pay my wages! Also there probably isn't a database for you to check in the office anyway, we're only on computer from '95 for births and deaths although most of our marriages are now on, thanks to the local family history society who've been coming in every day for the last 10 years to do it. There's quite a few people who've got married in Manchester since 1837.

Re: Family Trees
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 18 July 2009, 12:38:39 PM »
Anyone ever done theirs? Started my family's a few weeks back and am slowly turning up some interesting things. Anyone have any (in)famous ancestors?

Aye - been doing it off and on for years -

found some of my mother's side had been glass makers (they built the Glasshouses at Heaton - in Tudor times one was in front of Queen Elizabeth's Privy Council for dobbing his neighbour with a piece of molten glass............  warned, fined and £ 5 for doctors fees..............  :knuppel2: :knuppel2:

The wife's family come from Cornwall (a longgggggggggggg  time ago - in King John's time no less)  - another Privy Council case- looting a french ship in Helston harbour claiming it was "wrecked" (well it was once they'd finished....) - restitution of all the goods, wine & brandy and a stonking great fine................ O0

The important thing is to get all your eldest relatives together, pour a few beers into them and get them talking and sit with a note book - they have all the old family stories and names and can save you years of internet research...........  The interesting thing about Family History IMHO is NOT just a bloody great list of names and dates but the small details - one of my lot lived next to Balmbra's at the the time of Blaydon Races for example - about 13 people in two rooms (and we complain about immigrants these days.....)

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Re: Family Trees
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 18 July 2009, 12:42:55 PM »
Anyone ever done theirs? Started my family's a few weeks back and am slowly turning up some interesting things. Anyone have any (in)famous ancestors?

Aye - been doing it off and on for years -

found some of my mother's side had been glass makers (they built the Glasshouses at Heaton - in Tudor times one was in front of Queen Elizabeth's Privy Council for dobbing his neighbour with a piece of molten glass............  warned, fined and £ 5 for doctors fees..............  :knuppel2: :knuppel2:

The wife's family come from Cornwall (a longgggggggggggg  time ago - in King John's time no less)  - another Privy Council case- looting a french ship in Helston harbour claiming it was "wrecked" (well it was once they'd finished....) - restitution of all the goods, wine & brandy and a stonking great fine................ O0

The important thing is to get all your eldest relatives together, pour a few beers into them and get them talking and sit with a note book - they have all the old family stories and names and can save you years of internet research...........  The interesting thing about Family History IMHO is NOT just a bloody great list of names and dates but the small details - one of my lot lived next to Balmbra's at the the time of Blaydon Races for example - about 13 people in two rooms (and we complain about immigrants these days.....)


Quite right. Trying to get more stories now than just dates and places.