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"I'm getting a divorce"..."Why on earth is that dear?!"
« on: Friday 11 January 2008, 05:31:11 PM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7182817.stm

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Parted-at-birth twins 'married'

A pair of twins who were adopted by separate families as babies got married without knowing they were brother and sister, a peer told the House of Lords.

A court annulled the British couple's union after they discovered their true relationship, Lord Alton said.

The peer - who was told of the case by a High Court judge involved - said the twins felt an "inevitable attraction".

He said the case showed how important it was for children to be able to find out about their biological parents.

Details of the identities of the twins involved have been kept secret, but Lord Alton said the pair did not realise they were related until after their marriage.

'Truth will out'


The former Liberal Democrat MP raised the couple's case during a House of Lords debate on the Human Fertility and Embryology Bill in December.

"They were never told that they were twins," he told the Lords.

"They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction, and the judge had to deal with the consequences of the marriage that they entered into and all the issues of their separation."

He told the BBC News website that their story raises the wider issue of the importance of strengthening the rights of children to know the identities of their biological parents.

"If you start trying to conceal someone's identity, sooner or later the truth will out," he said.

"And if you don't know you are biologically related to someone, you may become attracted to them and tragedies like this may occur."

Pam Hodgkins, chief executive officer of the charity Adults Affected by Adoption (NORCAP) said there had been previous cases of separated siblings being attracted to each other.

"We have a resistance, a very strong incest taboo where we are aware that someone is a biological relative," she said.

"But when we are unaware of that relationship, we are naturally drawn to people who are quite similar to ourselves.

'Incredibly rare'

"And of course there is unlikely to be anyone more similar to any individual than their sibling."

Mo O'Reilly, director of child placement for the British Association for Adoption and Fostering, said the situation was traumatic for the people involved, but incredibly rare.

"Thirty or 40 years ago it would have been more likely that twins be separated and, brought up without knowledge of each other," she said.

Today, however, adopted children grow up with a greater knowledge of their birth families - and organisations try to place brothers and sisters together.

If that were not possible, the siblings would still have some form of contact with each other.

"This sad case illustrates why, over the last 20-30 years, the shift to openness in adoption was so important," Ms O'Reilly added.

What are the odds? :idiot2:

Echo

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 05:36:57 PM »
I heard it on the radio - amazing.

Quite sad really if they get on

Colocho

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 06:56:35 PM »
Imagine if they had a child.

 :crazy2:
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 07:54:27 PM »
Third time they've split up.

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 07:57:00 PM »
Title should have read "Mackem Wedding Annulled."
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 09:32:07 PM »
This must be awfully traumatic for the couple involved. I can honestly imagine few things worse.

Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

LucaAltieri

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 10:11:27 PM »
Where is JayJay anyway?

LBW

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 10:13:22 PM »
Where is JayJay anyway?

On the p*ss perhaps??   O0
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"Ok George, it's YOU!"
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« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 10:14:08 PM »
Where is JayJay anyway?

On the p*ss perhaps??   O0

Getting a belting off his dad, probably

LBW

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 10:16:02 PM »
Where is JayJay anyway?

On the p*ss perhaps??   O0

Getting a belting off his dad, probably

Oooooh, that sounds better (imagine Kenneth Williams)
"You're giving ME the 'it's naat you it's me' routine? If it's anybaady, it's ME!!"
"Ok George, it's YOU!"
"You're DAMN RIGHT IT'S ME!"

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 January 2008, 10:17:02 PM »
Where is JayJay anyway?
the film "secretary" was on last night..he's the secretary while his boss is in the james spader role
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

SEMTEX

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 January 2008, 04:09:05 PM »
That would be the most horrible thing in the world for the peeps involved. Poor bastards.


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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 January 2008, 09:16:13 PM »
They should do porn.

RodrigoPalacio

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 01:20:27 AM »
Unlucky that!

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 01:34:18 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7182817.stm

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Parted-at-birth twins 'married'

A pair of twins who were adopted by separate families as babies got married without knowing they were brother and sister, a peer told the House of Lords.

A court annulled the British couple's union after they discovered their true relationship, Lord Alton said.

The peer - who was told of the case by a High Court judge involved - said the twins felt an "inevitable attraction".

He said the case showed how important it was for children to be able to find out about their biological parents.

Details of the identities of the twins involved have been kept secret, but Lord Alton said the pair did not realise they were related until after their marriage.

'Truth will out'


The former Liberal Democrat MP raised the couple's case during a House of Lords debate on the Human Fertility and Embryology Bill in December.

"They were never told that they were twins," he told the Lords.

"They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction, and the judge had to deal with the consequences of the marriage that they entered into and all the issues of their separation."

He told the BBC News website that their story raises the wider issue of the importance of strengthening the rights of children to know the identities of their biological parents.

"If you start trying to conceal someone's identity, sooner or later the truth will out," he said.

"And if you don't know you are biologically related to someone, you may become attracted to them and tragedies like this may occur."

Pam Hodgkins, chief executive officer of the charity Adults Affected by Adoption (NORCAP) said there had been previous cases of separated siblings being attracted to each other.

"We have a resistance, a very strong incest taboo where we are aware that someone is a biological relative," she said.

"But when we are unaware of that relationship, we are naturally drawn to people who are quite similar to ourselves.

'Incredibly rare'

"And of course there is unlikely to be anyone more similar to any individual than their sibling."

Mo O'Reilly, director of child placement for the British Association for Adoption and Fostering, said the situation was traumatic for the people involved, but incredibly rare.

"Thirty or 40 years ago it would have been more likely that twins be separated and, brought up without knowledge of each other," she said.

Today, however, adopted children grow up with a greater knowledge of their birth families - and organisations try to place brothers and sisters together.

If that were not possible, the siblings would still have some form of contact with each other.

"This sad case illustrates why, over the last 20-30 years, the shift to openness in adoption was so important," Ms O'Reilly added.

What are the odds? :idiot2:
what are the odds ?    they were brought up in the same area,same age...so not as long as you'd think
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

indi

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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 02:46:48 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2022008,00.html

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Incest is forbidden in Britain, where the law was extended in 2002 to include not just those with blood ties, but also step-parents and their children and in cases of adoptions.

I can understand the genetic siblings argument under health grounds, but seriously, what's the point in that!?!

GM

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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 02:50:16 PM »

BlueStar

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« Reply #18 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 03:04:19 PM »
what are the odds ?    they were brought up in the same area,same age...so not as long as you'd think

Maybe they met when they were both out celebrating their birthday :lol:
They should do porn.

Reckon they fitted together like a key in a lock?
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 03:27:02 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2022008,00.html

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Incest is forbidden in Britain, where the law was extended in 2002 to include not just those with blood ties, but also step-parents and their children and in cases of adoptions.

I can understand the genetic siblings argument under health grounds, but seriously, what's the point in that!?!


ffs Indi its illegal, so just stop complaining and deal with it. No seriously lay off her, mate or i'm calling the police.
Please, don't hurt me.....ok, yeah, let's wrestle naked on the floor....what do you mean I'm not a man? I f***ing 18 years old......let's get our cocks out........f***ing right on....i've got a hair on my cock area. Where's your's you f***er?  I'm gonna f***ing split your f***ing skinny butt in two boy.  Ok chap, lets do some man-on-man....cum in me gob.....f***ing come on.......f***ing another deranged sunday jack daniels fuelled night.......yeah....started so well......did it? No............you deranged f***ing idiot JJ.......WHERE'S YA LASS jj? Under the floor boards chap.....get tHE coppaz.  He's been on a killin spree. No I've not.....hope the pigs are tapping into this site......i ate her.....proper cut her up......so if I were your woman and you were my man I'd never stop loving you.......

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 03:29:00 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2022008,00.html

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Incest is forbidden in Britain, where the law was extended in 2002 to include not just those with blood ties, but also step-parents and their children and in cases of adoptions.

I can understand the genetic siblings argument under health grounds, but seriously, what's the point in that!?!

Cos' it's creepy as f***. Step-dads f***ing their adopted children? It's alright for Woody Allen, but he's the exception to the rule.

indi

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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 03:29:11 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2022008,00.html

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Incest is forbidden in Britain, where the law was extended in 2002 to include not just those with blood ties, but also step-parents and their children and in cases of adoptions.

I can understand the genetic siblings argument under health grounds, but seriously, what's the point in that!?!


ffs Indi its illegal, so just stop complaining and deal with it. No seriously lay off her, mate or i'm calling the police.

If you look in the little shop of horrors you'll see that there is clearly no genetic link. :p

indi

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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 03:30:02 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2022008,00.html

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Incest is forbidden in Britain, where the law was extended in 2002 to include not just those with blood ties, but also step-parents and their children and in cases of adoptions.

I can understand the genetic siblings argument under health grounds, but seriously, what's the point in that!?!

Cos' it's creepy as f***. Step-dads f***ing their adopted children? It's alright for Woody Allen, but he's the exception to the rule.

Should be locked up for being crap.

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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 03:36:10 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2022008,00.html

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Incest is forbidden in Britain, where the law was extended in 2002 to include not just those with blood ties, but also step-parents and their children and in cases of adoptions.

I can understand the genetic siblings argument under health grounds, but seriously, what's the point in that!?!

Cos' it's creepy as f***. Step-dads f***ing their adopted children? It's alright for Woody Allen, but he's the exception to the rule.

Should be locked up for being crap.

You take that back, you bitch!

indi

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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 13 January 2008, 03:38:19 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2022008,00.html

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Incest is forbidden in Britain, where the law was extended in 2002 to include not just those with blood ties, but also step-parents and their children and in cases of adoptions.

I can understand the genetic siblings argument under health grounds, but seriously, what's the point in that!?!

Cos' it's creepy as f***. Step-dads f***ing their adopted children? It's alright for Woody Allen, but he's the exception to the rule.

Should be locked up for being crap.

You take that back, you bitch!

Not you, Woody...










Oh, ok then, you and all.