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Spanish King Tells Chavez To "Shut Up"
« on: Sunday 11 November 2007, 12:07:01 PM »
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Spain's King Juan Carlos told Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez to "shut up" as the Ibero-American summit drew to a close in Santiago, Chile.

The outburst came after Mr Chavez called former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar a "fascist".

Mr Chavez then interrupted Spanish PM Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's calls for him to be more diplomatic, prompting the king's outburst.

Latin American, Portuguese, Spanish and Andorran leaders were meeting in Chile.

Mr Chavez called Mr Aznar, a close ally of US President George W Bush, a fascist, adding "fascists are not human. A snake is more human."

Mr Zapatero said: "[Former Prime Minister] Aznar was democratically elected by the Spanish people and was a legitimate representative of the Spanish people."

Mr Chavez repeatedly tried to interrupt, despite his microphone being turned off. The king leaned forward and said: "Why don't you shut up?"

According to reports, the king used a familiar term normally used only for close acquaintances - or children.

Later, Mr Chavez responded to the king's rebuke.

According to the Associated Press news agency, he said: "I do not offend by telling the truth. The Venezuelan government reserves the right to respond to any aggression, anywhere, in any space and in any manner."

The theme of this year's 22-nation summit was "social cohesion".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7089131.stm
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Re: Spanish King Tells Chavez To "Shut Up"
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 November 2007, 12:39:41 PM »
Quote from: 80 on Sunday 11 November 2007, 12:07:01 PM
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Spain's King Juan Carlos told Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez to "shut up" as the Ibero-American summit drew to a close in Santiago, Chile.

The outburst came after Mr Chavez called former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar a "fascist".

Mr Chavez then interrupted Spanish PM Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's calls for him to be more diplomatic, prompting the king's outburst.

Latin American, Portuguese, Spanish and Andorran leaders were meeting in Chile.

Mr Chavez called Mr Aznar, a close ally of US President George W Bush, a fascist, adding "fascists are not human. A snake is more human."

Mr Zapatero said: "[Former Prime Minister] Aznar was democratically elected by the Spanish people and was a legitimate representative of the Spanish people."

Mr Chavez repeatedly tried to interrupt, despite his microphone being turned off. The king leaned forward and said: "Why don't you shut up?"

According to reports, the king used a familiar term normally used only for close acquaintances - or children.

Later, Mr Chavez responded to the king's rebuke.

According to the Associated Press news agency, he said: "I do not offend by telling the truth. The Venezuelan government reserves the right to respond to any aggression, anywhere, in any space and in any manner."

The theme of this year's 22-nation summit was "social cohesion".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7089131.stm

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Re: Spanish King Tells Chavez To "Shut Up"
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 November 2007, 03:33:48 PM »
A bit ironic a king being involved in an argument about democracy.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 November 2007, 01:28:25 PM »
you could say the same about Hugo TBH

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 November 2007, 01:47:42 PM »
King needed chinning. Come on Hugo!!  bluerazz.gif
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Re: Spanish King Tells Chavez To "Shut Up"
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 November 2007, 06:22:54 PM »
Quote from: Rob W on Monday 12 November 2007, 01:28:25 PM
you could say the same about Hugo TBH



Are you ever going to see fit to back up your claims? ???
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Rob W

Re: Spanish King Tells Chavez To "Shut Up"
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 01:19:44 PM »
I have done - it's just that you think that extending one's term of office forever is democratic.............
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 01:28:10 PM »
Quote from: Rob W on Tuesday 13 November 2007, 01:19:44 PM
I have done - it's just that you think that extending one's term of office forever is democratic.............
Well, if he'd done that you might have had a point. What he actually did iirc was remove the restrictions on how many terms could be served by a president which is completely different and no more at odds with democracy than the same rules that apply to UK Prime Ministers. (I realise there are some differences between a Prime Minister and a President btw).
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 04:55:18 PM »
I wonder what would happen if Prince Phillip or young Wills or Harry landed the nut on Gordon Brown mid-speech in Parliament? I mean properly smash the fuckers nose up.

I bet they would just get a slap on the wrist.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 05:07:06 PM »
As alex has just said and i must have said about a meeeeeeeeeelion times myself all he has done is remove the limit on the number of terms someone can serve as president. The only way he will actually serve any more terms is if he wins the corresponding elections. Elections which you very well know, and i'm getting sick of reminding you, are considered free and fair by the people who know about these things. Do we have to jump through these hoops once again, or have you got an argument that hasn't been
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 05:08:51 PM »
...totally discredited previously, this time?
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 05:17:39 PM »
Also, the fact that the best they can do in the mudslinging stakes is that someone told him to shut-up shows how desperate they are and that they've actually got f*** all on him in reality.
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 09:52:46 PM »
Also, the fact that the best he can do in the mudslinging stakes is call someone a fascist and interrupt when his microphone isn't even on shows how desperate he is and that he's actually got f*** all on them in reality.

Quest for popularity, look at what it does to you.
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 November 2007, 10:48:50 PM »
Quote from: Rehhagel on Tuesday 13 November 2007, 09:52:46 PM
Also, the fact that the best he can do in the mudslinging stakes is call someone a fascist and interrupt when his microphone isn't even on shows how desperate he is and that he's actually got f*** all on them in reality.

Quest for popularity, look at what it does to you.

I'd let him run England any day of the week. :cheesy:
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"I'm a competitor and I want to play every game, every minute. The manager knows what I'm thinking. He knows I want to play. He makes his choices and I have to respect them."But it's true we don't share quite the same philosophy. For him, it's more crosses, a bit of a more direct style, whereas I'm more the kind of player who likes to play short passes.
"I like to pass and move.. .."That is the kind of football I like. That's the philosophy I learned at the French academy at Clairefontaine." HBA

Rob W

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 08:34:01 AM »
Quote from: Rehhagel on Tuesday 13 November 2007, 09:52:46 PM
Also, the fact that the best he can do in the mudslinging stakes is call someone a fascist and interrupt when his microphone isn't even on shows how desperate he is and that he's actually got f*** all on them in reality.

Quest for popularity, look at what it does to you.

Christ - I thought you were talkign about me for a minute there until I read on

But you're right - another tin-pot rabble rousing S American proto-dicator who is well on his way to wrecking his country, wasting all the oil money and generally strirring up class hatred so he and his mates and their famillies can enrich themselves

Sad really............................... 

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Re: Spanish King Tells Chavez To "Shut Up"
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 10:17:33 AM »
Quote from: Rob W on Thursday 15 November 2007, 08:34:01 AM
Quote from: Rehhagel on Tuesday 13 November 2007, 09:52:46 PM
Also, the fact that the best he can do in the mudslinging stakes is call someone a fascist and interrupt when his microphone isn't even on shows how desperate he is and that he's actually got f*** all on them in reality.

Quest for popularity, look at what it does to you.

Christ - I thought you were talkign about me for a minute there until I read on

But you're right - another tin-pot rabble rousing S American proto-dicator who is well on his way to wrecking his country, wasting all the oil money and generally strirring up class hatred so he and his mates and their famillies can enrich themselves

Sad really............................... 




...admit it Rob that's just made up. bluerazz.gif
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"I'm a competitor and I want to play every game, every minute. The manager knows what I'm thinking. He knows I want to play. He makes his choices and I have to respect them."But it's true we don't share quite the same philosophy. For him, it's more crosses, a bit of a more direct style, whereas I'm more the kind of player who likes to play short passes.
"I like to pass and move.. .."That is the kind of football I like. That's the philosophy I learned at the French academy at Clairefontaine." HBA

Rob W

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 10:52:21 AM »
I wish it was dear lad, I wish it was........

you know I am no friend of the USA and its policies in Latin America but I've been saying from day 1 that this man is a dangerous, deluded loon
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 11:06:31 AM »
He looks like a loon, i'll give Rob that.
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 11:07:53 AM »
before any gets in I would suggets it takes one to ..............   
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 11:10:47 AM »
You're more loony left than me Rob.
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Rob W

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 12:16:21 PM »
yes I know......................        but I fight the forces of unreason wherever they may found
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Re: Spanish King Tells Chavez To "Shut Up"
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 15 November 2007, 01:37:10 PM »
You going to back any of that up for once robert?
If you've been saying that since the start you must be getting a little bored wait for it to happen by now. What's that 10 years now?
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Rob W

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« Reply #22 on: Friday 16 November 2007, 09:00:10 AM »
Indi - thee (and the rest of the deluded Hugo smitten) & the me (and the fascists like Rehhangel) have argued this back and forward for the last two years

No point in us all posting the same articles (which the other side decry as propaganda  and lies) all over again - you know where to find them as I do

You think the guy is great - we think he's a dangerous loon

that's not going to change in the short term


It's the people of venezuala I feel sorry for TBH
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alex

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 16 November 2007, 09:44:14 AM »
Rob running rings round himself.
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 16 November 2007, 09:46:27 AM »
I'm going to start using the word 'loon' in general day to day conversation.
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