Topic: Ferry has to apologise for saying Nazi imagery was 'amazing'.

[GM]

horses for courses, i think he was a nutter and glad half his mad schemes never saw the light of day. i like some of his more organic buildings like ronchamp villa, but other signature buildings like unite habitation in marseille seem little different to Gateshead Carpark.  i can appreciate he was a product of his time, ie saw a lot of older buildings in central paris as dark, dingy cholera ridden slums. for me he showed a failure of foresight and imagination in failing to realise that these same buildings a few decades on would be considered the most beautiful and evocative streetscapes on the planet. so personally i wouldnt call someone whose outlook was so limited a genius, though i can see how his revolutionary ideas would be considered a work of genius. whatever way you look at it though, the paris plan was plain bonkers.

Can't argue with that - and I admit the use of the word "genius" in my earlier post, upon reflection, now looks like chronic hyperbole.

[Alan Shearer 9]

horses for courses, i think he was a nutter and glad half his mad schemes never saw the light of day. i like some of his more organic buildings like ronchamp villa, but other signature buildings like unite habitation in marseille seem little different to Gateshead Carpark.  i can appreciate he was a product of his time, ie saw a lot of older buildings in central paris as dark, dingy cholera ridden slums. for me he showed a failure of foresight and imagination in failing to realise that these same buildings a few decades on would be considered the most beautiful and evocative streetscapes on the planet. so personally i wouldnt call someone whose outlook was so limited a genius, though i can see how his revolutionary ideas would be considered a work of genius. whatever way you look at it though, the paris plan was plain bonkers.

Can't argue with that - and I admit the use of the word "genius" in my earlier post, upon reflection, now looks like chronic hyperbole.

True, Ferry is many things, but a genius he is not. That new Dylan covers stuff is s****, as well as most of his other stuff bar 2/3 songs

[GM]

[OzzieMandias]

we had a conversation in a lecture last semester. We were talking about the Nazi regime and in the break were talking about Nazi imagery, in particular Albert Speer's plans for Berlin which were fantastic.

Speer’s plans for Berlin are interesting but if it had ever got built it would have been grotesque. The main features were just gigantic versions of very simple things – a huge triumphal arch that would have 10 times the size of the one in Paris (the Nazis were obsessed with outdoing Paris) or the hall with a dome that would have been 20 times the size of St Peter's in Rome. It was architecture to dwarf and demoralise the individual, like the Reichskanzlerei that would have required visiting diplomats to take a half-mile walk before they arrived at the place where they'd finally meet Hitler.

The closest thing to it is the monstrosity Ceaucescu almost completed in Bucharest.

[80]

Just in case anyone's interested, Jerry Built, a programme by Jonathan Meades, was good and can be obtained. Covered things like the raining dome and such, iirc.

Edit: Actually, no, that was another programme on relatively recently about Speer himself. By... a bloke whose name escapes me. Famous enough, though, and someone else should know what I'm on about. Did another on Gaudi in the same series, if that's any help.

[johnnypd]

Joe Building was a good one too, about Soviet architecture. In fact, everything Meades does is fantastic.

[80]

Joe Building was a good one too, about Soviet architecture. In fact, everything Meades does is fantastic.

Yep, I find they're usually bundled together in a pack.

Speaking of which...



It's good because it's massive.

[Keefaz]

Where the p*ss is that?! It's huge!

[madras]

Where the p*ss is that?! It's huge!

nope,just tiny people

[80]

Where the p*ss is that?! It's huge!

Volgograd, formerly Stalingrad.

[Parky]

Where the p*ss is that?! It's huge!

Volgograd, formerly Stalingrad.

The smaller the people feel the easier it is to control the fuckers.