Topic: Am proud to be English

[Stevie]

Not fuckin British.

My country ENGLAND, has committed many sins, many fuckin sins, but I know one thing, we are just people, fair enough crimes are committed, disgusting crimes, racism is evident, but hand on heart we must be the most tolerant c***s known to man, we're not perfect.  Wor crimes worse than any c*** else???

We are too fair.  The least barbaric nation on earth.  I looked at them wop bastards tonight, braying f*** out of old men, and I thought to myself, I feel like a scouser, I feel like a victim, it doesn't matter what we do, we're English so any one can kick f*** out of us cos we're all hooligans this fuckin s**** has to stop.  Man Utd fans aren't bad.  I fuckin like the c***s me, the proper Man Utd crowd, they go over there they celebrate a goal in adversity no worse than fuckin anyone of us toon fans would've done and get done in, fuckin wanks.  RACISM.  Say what you like and many ofyou will but these latin countries (WHAT A FUCKIN GENERALISATION many will say) are no better in treatment of visiting fans as would be muslim fundamentalists, and f*** all is done, from these so called fair countries.  I hate Italy, I don't hate Italians individually, collectively, you're c***s, scum, and fuckin I tell you now, there's a thin line between being racist and being nationalistic, either way I don't give a f***, I'm proud we have values, f*** the rest we'll all die soon, anyway.  I'm proud we treat guests legal or illegal as friendly visitors, and haven't got scum which mean 6000 fans have to be kept back 2 hours after the match.  AM FUCKIN PROUD.  AM NOT PROUD OF BLAIR.  AM PROUD WE'RE FAIR PEOPLE, WHO STRIVE FOR JUSTICE.  A, NOT PROUD THE GOVERNMENT, AM PROUD OF ME AND YOU, WE'RE FUCKIN GREAT.

[BlufPurdi]

Why not British?  I mean, to the point you make a point about it?

EDIT:  Proud to be English when it comes to to local stuff, proud to be British on the world stage.

[Stevie]

I've got nothing to do with Scotland, and their inherent bigotry.  I'm English.  I wish Alex Sammond would fuckin win, and give every c*** what they want/.

[BlufPurdi]

He will win, and every c*** will get their vote, and vote no.  It's a myth everyone up here wants out. 

As for the bigotry, I think England share a lot of responsibity to that, Monarchy, defender of the faith and all that.  I know you're English, I am, f***ing put up with more s*** about being English than you can imagine, so I feel pretty patriotic, but why can't you be British?  What's there not to get behind, after all, it was England's dream, not Scotland's.

[ChezGiven]

I was talking about this very issue tonight, i am convinced that there is an anti-english sentiment across europe that is driven by jealousy and irritation. Our language and our culture is everywhere. It would p*ss me off.

[Invicta_Toon]

Scotland don't have a big enough fanbase to qualify as a country worthy of his support

[Invicta_Toon]

I was talking about this very issue tonight, i am convinced that there is an anti-english sentiment across europe that is driven by jealousy and irritation. Our language and our culture is everywhere. It would p*ss me off.

our culture isn't

[Stevie]

My uncle has lived in Scotland for 20 years.  He's not a daft c***.  He lived in a place called Dunkeld in Perthshire, he put up with worse racism than any asian has to put up with, his words not mine.  After Scotland beating England, (at fat bastaad shitey rugby) he'd walk in bars, "YA ENGLISH BASTURT WHAT YA HINK ABOOT AT".  I'll never feel British EVER.  f*** all to do with that though, we as ENGLISH PEOPLE, are treat like scum, yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here.  They come here because we're the bastion of fair play.  We maybe not inidvidually, but colectively through our institutions treat people as human beings, when EVER yous tell me have foreign fans been battered to f*** here?  We're too fair.  In 50 years we'll be brought down to the rest of Europe's standards. 

Billy Britain?

No fuckin Eddie English.

[ChezGiven]

I was talking about this very issue tonight, i am convinced that there is an anti-english sentiment across europe that is driven by jealousy and irritation. Our language and our culture is everywhere. It would p*ss me off.

our culture isn't

As someone who lives in the most anti-english country in europe, i have to say 'wrong'.

[BlufPurdi]

English people get treated with contempt because of our overall history, it's something we can't ignore, as it's still fresh in some eyes.  We may treat people right now, but took us a long time to get there.  I think you'd be hard pushed to get someone from a foreign country to say we treat out people like s***, it's most likely going to be one of us, 'cause we don't know how lucky we really are.  In my opinion.

I take your points on Scotland, though, I'd agree with the racism being worse than that of Asians, at times.  But you're tarring a lot of people for what a minority does.

As for how we treat people, individually.  Have you heard how some people talk about foreigners here?  And I don't mean your Thierry Henrys.

[ChezGiven]

My uncle has lived in Scotland for 20 years.  He's not a daft c***.  He lived in a place called Dunkeld in Perthshire, he put up with worse racism than any asian has to put up with, his words not mine.  After Scotland beating England, (at fat bastaad shitey rugby) he'd walk in bars, "YA ENGLISH BASTURT WHAT YA HINK ABOOT AT".  I'll never feel British EVER.  f*** all to do with that though, we as ENGLISH PEOPLE, are treat like scum, yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here.  They come here because we're the bastion of fair play.  We maybe not inidvidually, but colectively through our institutions treat people as human beings, when EVER yous tell me have foreign fans been battered to f*** here?  We're too fair.  In 50 years we'll be brought down to the rest of Europe's standards. 

Billy Britain?

No fuckin Eddie English.

  

[catmag]

.... yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here. 

Spoken like a true ENGLISH gent. 

Seriously - I despair. And I don't give a s*** if anyone is sick of me whingeing. I really can do without reading rants like that because I can't take you seriously at all. It's like listening to the bitter old drunk left talking to himself at the bar at the end of the night.

[ChezGiven]

English people get treated with contempt because of our overall history, it's something we can't ignore, as it's still fresh in some eyes.  We may treat people right now, but took us a long time to get there.  I think you'd be hard pushed to get someone from a foreign country to say we treat out people like s***, it's most likely going to be one of us, 'cause we don't know how lucky we really are.  In my opinion.

I take your points on Scotland, though, I'd agree with the racism being worse than that of Asians, at times.  But you're tarring a lot of people for what a minority does.

Agreed.

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[Toon's Taylor]

I blame Mel Gibson for the Scots behavior.

[BlufPurdi]

I blame Mel Gibson for the Scots behavior.

Don't get me started on that.

[TheOrder]

.... yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here.

Spoken like a true ENGLISH gent. 

Seriously - I despair. And I don't give a s*** if anyone is sick of me whingeing. I really can do without reading rants like that because I can't take you seriously at all. It's like listening to the bitter old drunk left talking to himself at the bar at the end of the night.

He doth speaketh the truth though.

[catmag]

.... yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here.

Spoken like a true ENGLISH gent. 

Seriously - I despair. And I don't give a s*** if anyone is sick of me whingeing. I really can do without reading rants like that because I can't take you seriously at all. It's like listening to the bitter old drunk left talking to himself at the bar at the end of the night.

He doth speaketh the truth though.

I don't disagree with the point. I just object to the manner in which it is being made.

And yes, I am aware that I sound like a disapproving old woman. I don't care.

[Toon's Taylor]

I blame Mel Gibson for the Scots behavior.

Don't get me started on that.

Its true isn't it?

Before then none of the ignorant fuks had a clue about their history, and no decent craic between the however millions there are, now they've got a tag line thanks to that daft ozzie/yank, and its all they ever say when in an argument about anything with them and they go on like they were the 1st Scot ever to say it. And it there is more than one, they all cheer together like they've won a life between them all and look at each other like they've single handedly taken down a Country.

Tossers.

 

[ChezGiven]

.... yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here.

Spoken like a true ENGLISH gent. 

Seriously - I despair. And I don't give a s*** if anyone is sick of me whingeing. I really can do without reading rants like that because I can't take you seriously at all. It's like listening to the bitter old drunk left talking to himself at the bar at the end of the night.

He doth speaketh the truth though.

I don't disagree with the point. I just object to the manner in which it is being made.

And yes, I am aware that I sound like a disapproving old woman. I don't care.

How liberal is NO?

Freedom of expression is a good thing Catherine.

[Toon's Taylor]

.... yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here.

Spoken like a true ENGLISH gent. 

Seriously - I despair. And I don't give a s*** if anyone is sick of me whingeing. I really can do without reading rants like that because I can't take you seriously at all. It's like listening to the bitter old drunk left talking to himself at the bar at the end of the night.

He doth speaketh the truth though.

I don't disagree with the point. I just object to the manner in which it is being made.

And yes, I am aware that I sound like a disapproving old woman. I don't care.

Just for you:

Not British.

My country ENGLAND, has committed many sins, many sins, but I know one thing, we are just people, fair enough crimes are committed, disgusting crimes, racism is evident, but hand on heart we must be the most tolerant people known to man, we're not perfect.  Wor crimes worse than any else???

We are too fair.  The least barbaric nation on earth.  I looked at them Italians tonight, braying the hell out of old men, and I thought to myself, I feel like a bin dipper, I feel like a victim, it doesn't matter what we do, we're English so any one can kick hell out of us cos we're all hooligans this has to stop.  Manure fans aren't bad.  I like them me, the proper Manure crowd, they go over there they celebrate a goal in adversity no worse than anyone of us toon fans would've done and get done in.  RACISM.  Say what you like and many of you will but these latin countries (WHAT A  GENERALISATION many will say) are no better in treatment of visiting fans as would be muslim fundamentalists, and nothing at all is done, from these so called fair countries.  I hate Italy, I don't hate Italians individually, collectively, and I tell you now, there's a thin line between being racist and being nationalistic, either way I don't give care, I'm proud we have values, the rest we'll all die soon, anyway.  I'm proud we treat guests legal or illegal as friendly visitors, and haven't got scum which mean 6000 fans have to be kept back 2 hours after the match.  AM  PROUD.  AM NOT PROUD OF BLAIR.  AM PROUD WE'RE FAIR PEOPLE, WHO STRIVE FOR JUSTICE.  A, NOT PROUD THE GOVERNMENT, AM PROUD OF ME AND YOU, WE'RE GREAT.

Better dear? 

[catmag]

.... yet we treat every c*** that comes here like royalty, and if we're such c***s, why do so many of these c***s come here.

Spoken like a true ENGLISH gent. 

Seriously - I despair. And I don't give a s*** if anyone is sick of me whingeing. I really can do without reading rants like that because I can't take you seriously at all. It's like listening to the bitter old drunk left talking to himself at the bar at the end of the night.

He doth speaketh the truth though.

I don't disagree with the point. I just object to the manner in which it is being made.

And yes, I am aware that I sound like a disapproving old woman. I don't care.

How liberal is NO?

Freedom of expression is a good thing Catherine.

Not so liberal when they've got some ridiculous rules for what constitutes a banning.

And don't patronise me, Adam.

[BlufPurdi]

I blame Mel Gibson for the Scots behavior.

Don't get me started on that.

Its true isn't it?

Before then none of the ignorant fuks had a clue about their history, and no decent craic between the however millions there are, now they've got a tag line thanks to that daft ozzie/yank, and its all they ever say when in an argument about anything with them like they were the 1st Scot ever to say it, and it there is more than one, they all cheer together like they've won a life between them all and look at each other like they've single handedly taken down a Country.

Tossers.

Spare teacher put it on at (Primary!) school once, she thought it would be a wonderful idea.  I ran home, you know what I mean?

I think you'd be surprised how many people take it PAST sport, it's very little, but never the less can be quite unsettling.  I don't hold anything against the ones that do it over sport, you only have to look at how over the top some of us are about other football sides.  The people that REALLY believe, generally tend to be those that don't know much about their history.  There's two guys at college I just can't get through to, at all.  They simply deny they could ever have been English.  "I just know." 

[Toon's Taylor]

I blame Mel Gibson for the Scots behavior.

Don't get me started on that.

Its true isn't it?

Before then none of the ignorant fuks had a clue about their history, and no decent craic between the however millions there are, now they've got a tag line thanks to that daft ozzie/yank, and its all they ever say when in an argument about anything with them like they were the 1st Scot ever to say it, and it there is more than one, they all cheer together like they've won a life between them all and look at each other like they've single handedly taken down a Country.

Tossers.

Spare teacher put it on at (Primary!) school once, she thought it would be a wonderful idea.  I ran home, you know what I mean?

I think you'd be surprised how many people take it PAST sport, it's very little, but never the less can be quite unsettling.  I don't hold anything against the ones that do it over sport, you only have to look at how over the top some of us are about other football sides.  The people that REALLY believe, generally tend to be those that don't know much about their history.  There's two guys at college I just can't get through to, at all.  They simply deny they could ever have been English.  "I just know." 

Hehe, there not all bad in the end of the day.

When a Scot isn't being Scottish and is just being a normal human being, they are generally good people. But as soon as they feel the need to be Scottish, thats it, they become the most ignorant, annoying, whinging bastards known to man.

[BlufPurdi]

I blame Mel Gibson for the Scots behavior.

Don't get me started on that.

Its true isn't it?

Before then none of the ignorant fuks had a clue about their history, and no decent craic between the however millions there are, now they've got a tag line thanks to that daft ozzie/yank, and its all they ever say when in an argument about anything with them like they were the 1st Scot ever to say it, and it there is more than one, they all cheer together like they've won a life between them all and look at each other like they've single handedly taken down a Country.

Tossers.

Spare teacher put it on at (Primary!) school once, she thought it would be a wonderful idea.  I ran home, you know what I mean?

I think you'd be surprised how many people take it PAST sport, it's very little, but never the less can be quite unsettling.  I don't hold anything against the ones that do it over sport, you only have to look at how over the top some of us are about other football sides.  The people that REALLY believe, generally tend to be those that don't know much about their history.  There's two guys at college I just can't get through to, at all.  They simply deny they could ever have been English.  "I just know." 

Hehe, there not all bad in the end of the day.

When a Scot isn't being Scottish and is just being a normal human being, they are generally good people. But as soon as they feel the need to be Scottish, thats it, they become the most ignorant, annoying, whinging bastards known to man.

You only need to hear an English man get into full swing... oh, wait...

We are all as bad as each other, man.  We just switch off to our own.

[Toon's Taylor]

I blame Mel Gibson for the Scots behavior.

Don't get me started on that.

Its true isn't it?

Before then none of the ignorant fuks had a clue about their history, and no decent craic between the however millions there are, now they've got a tag line thanks to that daft ozzie/yank, and its all they ever say when in an argument about anything with them like they were the 1st Scot ever to say it, and it there is more than one, they all cheer together like they've won a life between them all and look at each other like they've single handedly taken down a Country.

Tossers.

Spare teacher put it on at (Primary!) school once, she thought it would be a wonderful idea.  I ran home, you know what I mean?

I think you'd be surprised how many people take it PAST sport, it's very little, but never the less can be quite unsettling.  I don't hold anything against the ones that do it over sport, you only have to look at how over the top some of us are about other football sides.  The people that REALLY believe, generally tend to be those that don't know much about their history.  There's two guys at college I just can't get through to, at all.  They simply deny they could ever have been English.  "I just know." 

Hehe, there not all bad in the end of the day.

When a Scot isn't being Scottish and is just being a normal human being, they are generally good people. But as soon as they feel the need to be Scottish, thats it, they become the most ignorant, annoying, whinging bastards known to man.

You only need to hear an English man get into full swing... oh, wait...

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