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	<title>Comments on: King Kev - did he jump or was he pushed?</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Ashley in general by the way - His running of the club has now allowed Sunderland to overtake us. Which is very damning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Ashley in general by the way - His running of the club has now allowed Sunderland to overtake us. Which is very damning.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I am a bit lenient on Ashley in my other comments.

While all the fans were still on his side he did seem to be secretly trying to sell Newcastle for a vast profit without much success.

And as far as I can see he's not doing much differnt now he is actually offically selling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I am a bit lenient on Ashley in my other comments.</p>
<p>While all the fans were still on his side he did seem to be secretly trying to sell Newcastle for a vast profit without much success.</p>
<p>And as far as I can see he&#8217;s not doing much differnt now he is actually offically selling.</p>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just goes to show what a big mistake it was hire Keegan in the first place,that is the only criticism I have of Ashley trying to appease the fans he would stand with in the terraces. Ashley has been a breath of fresh air since he took over the club after the fiasco of the Shepherd years, we were finally heading in the right direction until the "gutless wonder", spat the dummy out and walked. There are thousands of people who can't get what they want at work, you don't see them quitting, they just get on with it and try work with the best you can until things get better. If he was so unhappy with system he was working in why did he leave it so late to quit why not in the beginning of the season it was obvious after the end of last season after the Chelsea game he wasn't happy with his lot, why didn't he quit then?. I say if the club brings him back a third time it will just show the rest of the world how stupid they are as far as I'm concerned Keegan needs to justify himself to the new owners why he should get the job again for a third time and in my opinion he couldn't!. Goodbye Kev! go back to your soccer circus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just goes to show what a big mistake it was hire Keegan in the first place,that is the only criticism I have of Ashley trying to appease the fans he would stand with in the terraces. Ashley has been a breath of fresh air since he took over the club after the fiasco of the Shepherd years, we were finally heading in the right direction until the &#8220;gutless wonder&#8221;, spat the dummy out and walked. There are thousands of people who can&#8217;t get what they want at work, you don&#8217;t see them quitting, they just get on with it and try work with the best you can until things get better. If he was so unhappy with system he was working in why did he leave it so late to quit why not in the beginning of the season it was obvious after the end of last season after the Chelsea game he wasn&#8217;t happy with his lot, why didn&#8217;t he quit then?. I say if the club brings him back a third time it will just show the rest of the world how stupid they are as far as I&#8217;m concerned Keegan needs to justify himself to the new owners why he should get the job again for a third time and in my opinion he couldn&#8217;t!. Goodbye Kev! go back to your soccer circus.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good points.

Yes, Keegan has done alot for the club. But I don't think he should have been re-appointed in the first place.

I've always felt that it was a publicity stunt / distraction tactic by Ashley. Basically, he gave the mob what they wanted for a short term fix when things werent going well 10 months ago.

Whats Keegan actually done since walking out of Newcastle the first time round? Exactly.

If Ashley had made a sensible appointment (ie - someone who was used to working under such a system he was putting in place)then none of this would have happened.

He appointed Keegan as a short term fix to pull the wool over the eyes of those with rose tinted specs for a few months, which was damn silly as Ashley must have known he'd lose a popularity contest with him if things got tough. Van Gall. Advocat. That would have been a sensible choice.

Ashley has saved this club from Shephered's idiocy, taken us away from the financial brink and hasn't had the credit he deserves. And gets abused and hounded out.

Long story short - this entire mess is Ashley's fault for re-appointing Keegan in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good points.</p>
<p>Yes, Keegan has done alot for the club. But I don&#8217;t think he should have been re-appointed in the first place.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always felt that it was a publicity stunt / distraction tactic by Ashley. Basically, he gave the mob what they wanted for a short term fix when things werent going well 10 months ago.</p>
<p>Whats Keegan actually done since walking out of Newcastle the first time round? Exactly.</p>
<p>If Ashley had made a sensible appointment (ie - someone who was used to working under such a system he was putting in place)then none of this would have happened.</p>
<p>He appointed Keegan as a short term fix to pull the wool over the eyes of those with rose tinted specs for a few months, which was damn silly as Ashley must have known he&#8217;d lose a popularity contest with him if things got tough. Van Gall. Advocat. That would have been a sensible choice.</p>
<p>Ashley has saved this club from Shephered&#8217;s idiocy, taken us away from the financial brink and hasn&#8217;t had the credit he deserves. And gets abused and hounded out.</p>
<p>Long story short - this entire mess is Ashley&#8217;s fault for re-appointing Keegan in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: bovine</title>
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		<dc:creator>bovine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't stand all this Keegan bashing from people who seem determined to forget everything he has done for this club.  The fact that this rubbishing of Keegan's name is based on media speculation from un-named sources is pathetic.

Keegan was supposed to be manager, not a puppet or a figurehead for the club to try and appease the fans.  I'm glad he had the integrity to stand up for what was right instead of hanging around for a big payout like some of our recent 'managers'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand all this Keegan bashing from people who seem determined to forget everything he has done for this club.  The fact that this rubbishing of Keegan&#8217;s name is based on media speculation from un-named sources is pathetic.</p>
<p>Keegan was supposed to be manager, not a puppet or a figurehead for the club to try and appease the fans.  I&#8217;m glad he had the integrity to stand up for what was right instead of hanging around for a big payout like some of our recent &#8216;managers&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written article but I don't agree with your conclusions.  I think KK's position was made untenable and I don't blame him one iota for going.  The buck stops with Ashley &#38; co, is it a coincidence 2 clubs with a DoF structure are bottom of the league?  They needed to build a squad for both today and tomorrow and they haven't delivered on the first requirement imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written article but I don&#8217;t agree with your conclusions.  I think KK&#8217;s position was made untenable and I don&#8217;t blame him one iota for going.  The buck stops with Ashley &amp; co, is it a coincidence 2 clubs with a DoF structure are bottom of the league?  They needed to build a squad for both today and tomorrow and they haven&#8217;t delivered on the first requirement imo.</p>
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		<title>By: jaimewolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaimewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, and mirrors my opinion completely. Keegan, for all his glories, is a quitter and gives up at the first hint of trouble. If he really had the interests of Newcastle at heart, he would have known that his departure would tear the club apart, and his subsequent refusal to return will leave it in limbo.

Ashley had a sound, concrete business plan, after a proven and successful role model. I'll take a couple of mid-table stability over this pile of mismanagement anyday.

What the fans should do now, and they will never do it, is to see reason and apologize to Ashley. Ashley has completely given up on the club, and who out there can say that he does not have the best interests of the club in his heart?

It is clear that Newcastle was deeply in debt, especially after buying Owen; the numbers obviously do not add up. Ashley's not in it for immediate profit.

By attempting to drive Ashley out in support of a man who walked out on the club for the second time is just insane. Like Keegan, a majority of the fans fail to see the long-term impact of their actions. Indeed, they seem to think that any change, premeditated or not, is good for the club.

Keegan gave us 2nd place and attractive football. Twice. And left the club twice. Why crucify Ashley over a quitter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, and mirrors my opinion completely. Keegan, for all his glories, is a quitter and gives up at the first hint of trouble. If he really had the interests of Newcastle at heart, he would have known that his departure would tear the club apart, and his subsequent refusal to return will leave it in limbo.</p>
<p>Ashley had a sound, concrete business plan, after a proven and successful role model. I&#8217;ll take a couple of mid-table stability over this pile of mismanagement anyday.</p>
<p>What the fans should do now, and they will never do it, is to see reason and apologize to Ashley. Ashley has completely given up on the club, and who out there can say that he does not have the best interests of the club in his heart?</p>
<p>It is clear that Newcastle was deeply in debt, especially after buying Owen; the numbers obviously do not add up. Ashley&#8217;s not in it for immediate profit.</p>
<p>By attempting to drive Ashley out in support of a man who walked out on the club for the second time is just insane. Like Keegan, a majority of the fans fail to see the long-term impact of their actions. Indeed, they seem to think that any change, premeditated or not, is good for the club.</p>
<p>Keegan gave us 2nd place and attractive football. Twice. And left the club twice. Why crucify Ashley over a quitter?</p>
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		<title>By: The Mole</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An extremely well written piece. Largely nonsense but well written all the same. 

It boils down to this; Kevin Keegan was assured that he would have the final say on player transfers as stated in public forums by Wise, Mort &#38; Ashley on separate occasions. In the 'resignation' statement issued by the LMA, KK stated 'It’s my opinion that a manager must have the right to manage and that clubs should not impose upon any manager any player that he does not want.'

The question is therefore straightforward;

Do you believe Dennis Wise or Kevin Keegan? Malevolent Little Goblin or Mighty Mouse?

Crumbs, I hate these tough ones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An extremely well written piece. Largely nonsense but well written all the same. </p>
<p>It boils down to this; Kevin Keegan was assured that he would have the final say on player transfers as stated in public forums by Wise, Mort &amp; Ashley on separate occasions. In the &#8216;resignation&#8217; statement issued by the LMA, KK stated &#8216;It’s my opinion that a manager must have the right to manage and that clubs should not impose upon any manager any player that he does not want.&#8217;</p>
<p>The question is therefore straightforward;</p>
<p>Do you believe Dennis Wise or Kevin Keegan? Malevolent Little Goblin or Mighty Mouse?</p>
<p>Crumbs, I hate these tough ones&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steveyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steveyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you blame KK for us not winning the title in 1996 Do you blame him for selling Andy Cole.KK could see long before it happened that the way we played with Andy Cole had been found out thats why he had scored no goals for about 10 games before he was sold.Kevin Keegan has been the most influential reason for the re awakening of the giant that is NUFC and you can slight his name with speculation and innuendo.Your backing of Ashley and therefore Wise is disgusting and pathetic as it is they and the chairmans fault because of their lies (remember the qoutes from Mort and Wise in FEB 08 and then from MA in the club mag just prior to the saga)Kevin Keegan has the final say on all outgoings and incomings and Dennis Wise is there to recruit the next generation.How can any of this be KKs fault when clearly he was undermined from the people who hired him to do the job.You are a fool and more gullable than most of the supporters who blame the fans for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you blame KK for us not winning the title in 1996 Do you blame him for selling Andy Cole.KK could see long before it happened that the way we played with Andy Cole had been found out thats why he had scored no goals for about 10 games before he was sold.Kevin Keegan has been the most influential reason for the re awakening of the giant that is NUFC and you can slight his name with speculation and innuendo.Your backing of Ashley and therefore Wise is disgusting and pathetic as it is they and the chairmans fault because of their lies (remember the qoutes from Mort and Wise in FEB 08 and then from MA in the club mag just prior to the saga)Kevin Keegan has the final say on all outgoings and incomings and Dennis Wise is there to recruit the next generation.How can any of this be KKs fault when clearly he was undermined from the people who hired him to do the job.You are a fool and more gullable than most of the supporters who blame the fans for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst thing ever written, comedy value aside obviously.</description>
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